[02:37] <f0urtyfive> anyone have an idea why I get red boxes flashing every once and a while when watching HD quality tv in myth?
[03:43] <rhpot1991> f0urtyfive: bad signal somewhere?
[03:43] <rhpot1991> sounds like maybe a digital breakup
[03:44] <f0urtyfive> yeah thats what I figured... it always clears up real quick though...
[03:44] <f0urtyfive> its like a grid of red blocks, quite annoying :D
[03:45] <rhpot1991> f0urtyfive: what kind of tuner?
[03:46] <f0urtyfive> I have a hdhomerun
[03:46] <f0urtyfive> annnndd....
[03:47] <rhpot1991> f0urtyfive: do you see it on more than one tuner?
[03:47] <f0urtyfive> I dont know, I dont have much HD so I dont see it that often :D
[03:47] <rhpot1991> I used to get digital breakups on my HDHR, so I took it off the network and run it straight into my master backend now
[03:48] <f0urtyfive> yeah I use my HDHR for an IR reciever as well so :/
[03:48] <f0urtyfive> (and its two floors up)
[03:49] <f0urtyfive>  Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250
[03:49] <f0urtyfive> is my other tuner
[03:49] <f0urtyfive> but I'm not sure which one the boxes are on, since my myth install seems to be showing 4 tuners
[04:50] <hipitihop> I want to allow other hosts to access the db, what is the correct way ?
[04:51] <hipitihop> I'm trying to setup mymote app in iphone and getting disconnected.
[06:04] <DaveQB_> How do you enable the Control Centre option to be displayed in the settings menu? So far, I can't select it without jumping through hoops to get the Desktops Main menu open...
[06:27] <DaveQB> Oops, sorry, parted for a bit, I hope I didn't miss a response...
[06:30] <superm1> DaveQB, it doesnt show up there for the 0.22 or 0.23 releases by default
[06:31] <DaveQB> superm1: Thanks for the response. Hmmm I am using 9.10 and 0.22.0
[06:31] <superm1> DaveQB, you can modify the xml file if you want to add it in there
[06:31] <DaveQB> superm1:  is there a way to "enable" it? Hack some config/xml?
[06:31] <DaveQB> superm1:  Ahhhhh
[06:32] <DaveQB> superm1:  Path for it please?
[06:32] <superm1> DaveQB, i dont know off hand which xml file it is, but they're all in /usr/share/mythtv
[06:32] <DaveQB> superm1:  Ahh huh! I see :-)
[06:32] <DaveQB> superm1:  Why is not enabled by default?
[06:33] <superm1> DaveQB, because you cant control it with a remote
[06:33] <DaveQB> Every review/tutorial I see says to open it graphically...
[06:33] <superm1> yeah we used to have it there
[06:33] <DaveQB> Hmmm I see
[06:33] <DaveQB> superm1:  Oh I see
[06:33] <superm1> you can open it graphically from the applications menu when you quit mythfrontend
[06:33] <DaveQB> I like how it used to be ;-)
[06:33] <superm1> help get us a patch to do remote support in there, and we'll gladly :)
[06:34] <DaveQB> Oh, if you quit the frontend, you are left with an XFCE desktop?
[06:34] <DaveQB> superm1:  hehe but it was listed before right? How did it work then?
[06:34] <superm1> Yeah you are
[06:34] <superm1> it didnt work with the remote, it just required you use a keyboard/mouse when you picked it
[06:34] <DaveQB> superm1: and to launch tyhe frontend again....a desktop icon or in the main XFCE menu?
[06:35] <superm1> in the menu
[06:35] <superm1> you can make a desktop icon if you want, sure though
[06:35] <DaveQB> superm1: Right, cool. I like that, personally. Having it there as an option, but I can see noobs getting confused...
[09:20] <ripperda> hi, I'm ripping dvds and I'm curious what the easiest way to find out what each track is
[09:20] <ripperda> in some cases, I would like to rip trailers, etc, so I'm curious if there's an easy way to play back specific tracks to see what they are
[09:29] <ripperda> ah, found the mplayer commands to play back a specific title
[15:28] <batrams> Hi - I see some kernel errors(?) in my /var/log/messages. Is it a bad idea to try a kernel update?
[15:32] <mrand> batrams: no, kernel updates that are offered via the update/upgrade services are generally good.  But before doing that, it might be good to google the potential messages.
[15:47] <batrams> Thankls
[15:48] <batrams> This AM the box was locked - could not even ssh in and I saw messages such as this:
[15:48] <batrams> Feb 13 10:13:30 mythbox kernel: [40889.717840] type=1503 audit(1266074010.163:54): operation="open" pid=5166 parent=5165 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/"
[15:53] <mrand> batrams: I've seen that before.   ah... here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/444479
[15:53] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #444479 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu): “missing apparmor access rule ”
[15:53] <mrand> google also turns up this: http://bokov.net/weblog/administration/quick-fix-problem-with-mysql-starting-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[15:53] <Zinn> [bokov.net] Alexey Bokov’s weblog » Blog Archive » Quick fix problem with mySQL starting on Ubuntu 9.10
[15:57] <batrams> Thanks - I'll check it out!
[16:54] <dashcloud> folks, I just had a bizarre experience with restoring my database backup
[16:55] <dashcloud> I needed the mythtv user to drop the database (root user would not work), and the root user to create the new database- which is a little strange I think
[17:00] <mrand> dashcloud: When I was playing around with backup and restore, I think I noticed that too.  sorry, don't know what else to say about it.
[17:27] <fukdnscerd> new mythbuntu install, set video directory, made sure its readable by everyone, and mythtv still tells me it finds no files.  Tried setting verbosity to all, but it doesnt say what directory its loading, only that its getting the default video directory from the db
[17:28] <mrand> fukdnscerd: you scanning for files after you enter mythvideo?
[17:29] <fukdnscerd> i have it set to browse the folder by default, but i did try using video manager to scan and it also comes up with no files
[17:32] <mrand> browse by folder doesn't auto scan, so that doesn't count.  But it sounds like you did request it to scan ('m' key, or MCE button)?
[17:34] <fukdnscerd> ahhh, previous versions of myth scanned automatically for changes when video manager was started correct??  I don't ever remember having to tell it to scan before!!!  well either way it did it
[17:35] <mrand> fukdnscerd: So it's fixed?  Previous versions you had to go into mythvideo setup.  Mythvideo setup has basically been eliminated, and understandably if you had a huge library, you might not want it scanning everytime you enter the plugin.
[17:36] <fukdnscerd> i see.... yes it is fixed, thanks
[18:00] <fukdnscerd> is it normal for it to take a few minutes to download metadata for movies
[18:10] <fukdnscerd> if i already have part of the meta data downloaded, then it is very fast, but for new movies takes up to 2 minutes to update metadata in myth even thought the log shows its complete
[18:25] <thafreak> Hello group, I'm curious if mythbuntu 10.04 will be an LTS release?
[18:30] <thafreak> Also, if I upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, does the DB schema change significantly? Will I lose all my current recorded show info and schedules?
[18:32] <fukdnscerd> .04 releases are usually lts
[18:32] <fukdnscerd> i think
[18:32] <fukdnscerd> not sure on the DB
[18:35] <fukdnscerd> may have found a bug!! in video manager, if you try to exit video manager before dowload meta data script is finished, mythtv crashes with: "QProcess: Destroyed while process is still running."
[19:02] <mrand> fukdnscerd: I think I recall it being said that the image retrieval is done in the background so it doesn't block other stuff.
[19:03] <mrand> thafreak: yes.  Every other .04 release is LTS.  10.04 is.
[19:06] <mrand> !debug | fukdnscerd
[19:06] <Zinn> fukdnscerd: To report crashes, please follow the directions outlined under the "Basic backtrace" section of http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Debugging_with_Ubuntu_packages
[19:09] <fukdnscerd> thanks
[19:26] <fukdnscerd> do i have to create links to my video, video cover, etc. directories for access from mythweb
[19:28] <fukdnscerd> nvm
[19:28] <mrand> fukdnscerd: it's been a long time... I don't recall.
[19:28] <mrand> fukdnscerd: ah... what did you find?
[19:29] <fukdnscerd> there are already links created, but they point to the standard directories... I keep my data in non-standard locations
[19:29] <fukdnscerd> so should just have to recreate links
[19:29] <mrand> gotcha.  where were they pointing to by default?
[19:34] <fukdnscerd> /var/lib/mythtv/video
[19:35] <mrand> was this a fresh install or an upgrade?  I thought it had changed to vidoes (with an 's')
[19:39] <fukdnscerd> yes, most recent mythbuntu image....  It may have been, I might have been mistaken..
[19:39] <fukdnscerd> you are right it did have an s
[19:40] <fukdnscerd> my existing storage was set up for the old scheme
[19:43] <mrand> very good.  thanks for verifying that.
[20:17] <gbee> how do I disable gnome-screensaver, dead, never coming back to life? I'd uninstall it but mythbuntu-desktop requires it for some vexing reason
[20:40] <mrand> gbee:  superm1 would have to answer why it is listed as a requires.  I believe the problem you are seeing may be caused by https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/428884
[20:40] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #428884 in vlc (Ubuntu): “gnome-screensaver-command --poke no longer inhibits screensaver”
[20:52] <gmathews> hey all
[20:52] <gmathews> what graphics would i need to run mythbuntu - primary need would be to display 1080p rips of video
[20:52] <gmathews> *graphics card
[20:53] <mrand> gmathews: the only question that generates more interest than that one is which tuner to use ;-)
[20:54] <mrand> If your CPU is powerful enough, nearly any graphical output device woud work.
[20:54] <gmathews> mrand: u reckon? I am running Kubuntu 9.10, not too happy when connecting the pc to my bravia 40", video is a lil sluggy - using an onboard 6150
[20:54] <mrand> If you are trying to minimize CPU power, then the general advice is to buy something Nvidia based which support VDPAU
[20:55] <gmathews> whats VDPAU
[20:55] <gmathews> okay let me google :D
[20:56] <gmathews> interesting its for series 8 and onwards :D
[20:56] <mrand> Pretty much.  There are slight variations between cards, with some having a few more features than others.
[20:57] <gmathews> mrand is setting up mythbuntu worth it for just playing media on disk - or should i get something like the mede8er MED500X..trying to weigh out between buying a graphics card and putting cash into a new graphics card
[20:57] <mrand> !vdpau | gmathews
[20:57] <Zinn> gmathews: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[20:58] <gmathews> i mean wigh out between putting cash into a graphics card or a media center like the mede8er
[20:58] <gmathews> *weigh
[20:59] <mrand> I'd have to read up on the MED500X.
[20:59] <gmathews> its one of those media centers thaat can play anything on disc
[20:59] <gmathews> HDD i mean
[21:00] <gmathews> which is what i want really..but i have been using ubuntu for a while..so want to see its capabilities as a media center
[21:01] <gmathews> need to figure out a way to get a remote working for mythbuntu too tho ;/
[21:01] <mrand> Depends on what you're looking for then.  MythTV excels at scheduling and recording TV from its various sources.
[21:01] <gmathews> hmmm i see..i'm just keen for having a media center to play stuff from my HDD
[21:01] <mrand> gmathews: lirc doesn't require mythbuntu... it can be installed by itself.
[21:02] <gmathews> mrand: lirc?
[21:02] <gmathews> !lirc | gmathews
[21:02] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about lirc
[21:02] <gmathews> ;/
[21:02] <mrand> hahaha  I'm surprised Zinn doesn't know that.
[21:02] <Zinn> Hi mrand, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[21:04] <mrand> it's the software which handles most remote controls.  Google will tell you lots about it.  Anyway, MythTV could certainly do what you want, but is not its primary focus.  XMBC and other media software may be a bit more targeted for just that application if that's all you want/need.
[21:05] <superm1> gbee, it's because it was a depends rather than recommends for mythbuntu-desktop.  you can safely remove mythbuntu-desktop as it's just a metapackage.  just keep in mind that if you upgrade to 10.04, the upgrades go smoother when the metapackages are intact
[21:05] <superm1> mrand, ^
[21:05] <mrand> thanks for the reminder
[21:05] <gmathews> mrand: sorry was having a smoke..okay i need to  do more googling it seems 'D
[21:05] <gmathews> mrand: thanjs for ur time
[21:05] <mrand> sure thing.
[21:09] <gbee> mrand: poking has always been a pretty fragile and imperfect way of dealing with the screensaver, and doesn't handle the screensaver kicking in when idle in the menus, like many people my mythbuntu box is a dedicated frontend connected to a TV, I don't need the screensaver at all
[21:10] <gbee> if I can safely remove it as superm1 says, then that's better in the long run
[21:10] <superm1> can switch the screensaver over to a Recommends for 10.04 so it's easier to remove too
[21:11] <mrand> superm1: that might help people live with bug that you can't seem to kill it.
[21:11] <thafreak> mrand: I know every other .04 release is usually LTS, but does that mean mythbuntu is LTS too? I heard some variations (like lubuntu) aren't LTS
[21:12] <superm1> there is no formal "support" so it's irrelevant
[21:12] <superm1> but it means the repos live for a longer time
[21:14] <gbee> thafreak: I expect that the core OS is still LTS but I can't speak for that, what I can say is that no long term support is offered for mythtv, once a new version is out we expect people to upgrade or put up with bugs, we don't have the manpower to maintain multiple versions
[21:15] <superm1> as the mythbuntu developers we'll try to keep autobuilds going for as long as is sustainable
[21:15] <superm1> gbee is correct that the core OS is still LTS
[21:19] <mrand> anyone have a favorite hex editor that will open binary files, allow for searching, and jumping to locations?
[21:19] <superm1> whatcha hackin on?
[21:19] <gmathews> mrand: xmbc is exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
[21:21] <mrand> superm1: car chip.  I burned a lot of chips for friends a long time ago.  One has had some engine work done and the point-and-click chip burning tools that people use now can't do a few of the customizations that I did back then.  So I'm taking the revised chip that he has and changing it slightly.
[21:21] <mrand> Shift light, in this case.
[21:38] <mrand> WOW.  Bless is a really nice hex editor.  will even support find&replace and insert, as well as goto  much nicer than back when I used emacs
[22:41] <hipitihop> Is 6546 still the standard telnet port for frontend remote control ?
[22:42] <superm1> the port hasn't changed afaik
[22:43] <superm1> so yes, 6546
[22:43] <hipitihop> and does frontend need to be restart if I change the port in setup ?
[22:47] <superm1> i dont know.  doesn't hurt to restart the frontend if it's not working immediately though