[00:00] <Bertram> does not want to boot with any of these
[00:00] <Michalxo> or rather reinstall ubuntu, but inability to boot from CD is big problem these days imo
[00:00] <Bertram> how do i do that?
[00:00] <mengu> how do i get my resolution done right? it is 1024*768 right now. i need a better resolution because it is so big now.
[00:01] <ax> i have an x32 with a radeon mobility video card, i'm curently running 8.04 but i'm sort of annoyed at the age of a lot of the packages..
[00:01] <Michalxo> Bertram try founding out what version of bios you have, then google from some responses about it and ability to boot CDs
[00:01] <ax> i ran karmic but had some video issues [all the gnome status stuff was just black]
[00:02] <ax> anyone have any reccomendatiaons?  I would love to have the newest packages available but, the issues with the video [supposedly they dropped my video driver] made karmic not so awesome
[00:02] <ax> by x32 i mean thinkpad x32
[00:03] <lordbah> Lately it seems the system doesn't hear a lot of my left mouse clicks. It doesn't seem to be the hardware. At least if I hold the button down and drag it always registers that correctly. But single clicks often go unnoticed and double-clicking is nearly impossible. Anyone seen this before?
[00:03] <hipitihop> I'm using wireless keyboard & mouse via my laptop's built in BT, but if I do not use one of them for a few minutes, they time out, I have to repair by running 'sudo hidd --search'. How do I stop the time out
[00:05] <ax> should i just go with 8.10 and use backports?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> ax: no
[00:06] <ax> sebsebseb: so, what should i do?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> ax: 8.10 will run out of support when 10.04 comes out, or around that time  since 18 months of support
[00:06] <andrew__> Baah seriously
[00:06] <privateabstract> 8.10 is still a far greater version than more recent ones.
[00:06] <andrew__> Where the heck is the Evolution setting to only listen to subscribed folders
[00:06] <Flannel> andrew__: ATI, right?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> ax: 10.04 is next LTS which you can directly upgrade to when it's time, but it might not be so good in your case.
[00:07] <sebsebseb> privateabstract: I quite like 8.10 myself
[00:07] <andrew__> No?
[00:07] <Flannel> sebsebseb: No, you can't upgrade from 8.10 straight to 10.04
[00:07] <Flannel> andrew__: sorry
[00:07] <Flannel> ax: ATI, right?
[00:07] <ax> Flannel: yeah
[00:07] <ax> radeon
[00:07] <Sh3r1ff> Flannel: he has 8.04 for the moment
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Flannel:  yeah seems I didn't put in the bit about 8.04 to 10.04 works hrm
[00:07] <sebsebseb> ax: if you stay on 8.04 you can upgrade directly to 10.04 when it's time. what packages do you want later versions of?
[00:08] <ax> sebsebseb: svn, and a variety of audio applications, ardour, pd,..
[00:08] <q0_0p> anyone here know how to get rid of slackspace using dd?
[00:08] <hipitihop> sebsebseb, sorry to jump in, when you say directly, do you mean no need for intermediate upgrades ?
[00:08]  * jp-- is still unpacking and installing...
[00:08] <Sh3r1ff> hipitihop: nope
[00:09] <sebsebseb> ax: not sure about those, but there will be ppa's probably for quite a lot of that, and if not, you can  find a Deb maybe on the offical sites or compile from them.   only get software from trusted sources such as repo's, luanchpad ppa's, or offical websites
[00:09] <andrew__> None of the things will install anyway
[00:09] <andrew__> Apparently my internet is to blame.
[00:09] <Flannel> ax: Have you tried the newer versions with the open source -ati driver?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> hipitihop: yes no need to go through  8.10, 9.04, and 9.10   if have stayed on 8.04  and then upgrade to 10.04
[00:09] <hipitihop> Sh3r1ff, that's what I thought, I have been on ubuntu since 6.x and one could never skip an upgrade.
[00:09] <Flannel> ax: (what Radeon model?)
[00:10] <hipitihop> sebsebseb, ahh so this is a new feature.
[00:10] <Sh3r1ff> hipitihop: myself, i only go from lts to lts
[00:10] <sebsebseb> hipitihop: no not at all
[00:10] <sebsebseb> hipitihop: with LTS's always been able to directly upgrade to the next LTS
[00:11] <hipitihop> sebsebseb, I see my bad, you were talking about lts... ignore my noise
[00:11] <Flannel> hipitihop: Non-LTS versions are only supported upgrading from one to the next, without skipping, yes.
[00:11] <ax> Flannel: ati mobility radeon
[00:11] <Guest90325> Air final update (plasma theme)   .....How to install blue theme  not black theme for kubuntu 9.10
[00:12] <ax> trying to find an actual model num
[00:12] <FHFHS> !ru
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> ax, in a terminal you could you "lspci | grep -i vga" to find your model
[00:12] <ax> Flannel: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[00:12] <ax> ZykoticK9: thanks
[00:14] <renegaid>  when I install ubuntu on my bios raid it installs grub legacy. anyone know why?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> renegaid: Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:15] <renegaid> 9.10
[00:16] <sebsebseb> renegaid: If your getting that  when doing a clean install I have no idea.  However Grub Legacy is actsually better really than Grub 2 and in quite a few ways.   Both are fine useualley.
[00:17] <renegaid> if I install it to a usb drive I get grub2. I guess it is not supported on raid
[00:17] <Flannel> ax: Have you tried the newer Ubuntus with that card?  From what I can tell, it's supported in the new FOSS drivers.
[00:17] <ardchoille> renegaid: grub2 is still a sort of "work in progress"and many people go back to grub legacy
[00:17] <q0_0p> anyone know if dd=/dev/zero if=mypartition is dangerous?
[00:18] <q0_0p> i want to remove slackspace
[00:18] <ax> Flannel: I had Karmic on here but i think i only tried the proprietary drivers
[00:18] <Flannel> q0_0p: "slack space"?
[00:18] <renegaid> does grub legacy support boot themes like grub2
[00:18] <suhail> hello, i need help with my ubuntu on ps3
[00:18] <sebsebseb> renegaid: boot themes?  you mean like with for example the Ubuntu logo maybe? a picture yeah?
[00:18] <renegaid>  a picture background
[00:19] <sebsebseb> renegaid: yes it does
[00:19] <renegaid> who runs ubuntu ona ps3? seems like a waste of tim
[00:19] <ardchoille> renegaid: that's what a gdm theme is for on grub legacy
[00:19] <Flannel> ax: Try xserver-xorg-video-ati
[00:20] <renegaid> is there something I can use to customize it? I tried startupmanager but it seems like it only works with grub2
[00:20] <suhail> regegaid... its not bad so far... i just need to get the sixaxis working as mouse
[00:20] <ax> Flannel: cool, once i finish backing up my homedir i'll give that a shot, thanks!
[00:20] <sebsebseb> renegaid: I don't have a PS3, but  it would probably be quite fun to run Ubuntu on one for technical people
[00:21] <Flannel> suhail: #ubuntu-ps3 is the place you'll want to ask
[00:21] <renegaid> no video support. might as well just run a live cd on a pc and it is really slow
[00:21] <suhail> i'm totally new to ubuntu...  i need to get flash player installed as well. not sure how to use the terminal
[00:21] <sebsebseb> suhail: applications > assesoreis > terminal
[00:21] <Flannel> suhail: I'm not sure that flash is available for the PS3
[00:21] <sebsebseb> suhail: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:21] <sebsebseb> suhail: however what Flannel put
[00:22] <q0_0p> suhail replace libflashplayer.so with the newer one
[00:22] <ardchoille> suhail: I found this, hope it helps: http://gizmodo.com/5143547/how+to-install-ubuntu-on-your-ps3-for-vintage-gaming-emulation
[00:22] <suhail> thanks guys.. let me try that
[00:22] <privateabstract> Why does everyone use apt-get? I find aptitude so much easier. It cleans up unecessary packages.
[00:22] <arand> suhail: You should be able to use either the ubuntu software centre or synaptic to install everything, if you don't fancy the terminal.
[00:22] <ardchoille> suhail: disregard my link, I misunderstood
[00:23] <arand> privateabstract: True, but it's all a matter of preference..
[00:23] <sebsebseb> suhail: Flash might not be availalbe on PS3,  and you should probably join the PS3 channel, if you haven't already
[00:24] <privateabstract> arand: Surely aptitude is more preferable though, due to the fact it does clean up all those unecessary packages?
[00:24] <ardchoille> privateabstract: apt-get autoremove or apt-get purge --auto-remove <- thos clean up as well
[00:24] <privateabstract> ardchoille: few extra characters than aptitude purge :p
[00:24] <heretic9> hello, anyone happen to know how would I get or change an pin code with bluetooth -> mobile at shell only linux inst?
[00:25] <sabgenton> I want to push windows printer drivers where is the default samba share location to put them
[00:25] <sabgenton>  /usr/share/cups/drv/ ?
[00:25] <Flannel> heretic9: /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf has a way to set a pin.  I'm not really sure what you were asking though.
[00:25] <heretic9> no, it's not functional
[00:26] <heretic9> I got hcid.conf in place and set..
[00:26] <Guest23591> Hi, How do I make ubuntu only use one kernel, so my booting to windows by default doesn't get messed up
[00:26] <heretic9> unless you know someway to rehash/load it
[00:26]  * jp-- is still unpacking and installing...
[00:28] <cjae> Hi, How do I make ubuntu only use one kernel, so my booting to windows by default doesn't get messed up. sorry for posting more than once but changed my nick
[00:28] <Trek> cjae: you can remove the old kernel headers and stuff, i don't know the exact files you'd need to remove though
[00:29] <cjae> Trek: yes I know but I am not the primary user of this system, I put ubuntu on other ppls system so they will never know how to do that
[00:30] <Trek> cjae: in order to remove kernels you need to remove packages, if others are using Ubuntu, and you are the admin, you'll have to go remove the packages
[00:30] <Trek> cjae: or provide instructions ot others
[00:31] <dadoun> salut
[00:31] <cjae> Trek: I just thought the might be option to only use one kernel and upgrading it instead of getting multiples
[00:32] <cjae> upgrading = applying security patches
[00:33] <ambersean> hey guys, my neigbhors are installing 9.04, because we know it works, 9.10 didnt.  anyways, in the livecd i want to move their files over onto my usb hard drive.  but the livecd doesnt find my hard drive.  actually it sort of finds it but won't mount it.  maybe its a security thing?
[00:33] <ambersean> if i go into gparted, i can find my usb hard drive, but its not mounted.
[00:34] <ambersean> i think its a security thing?
[00:34] <jp--> Seveas is all installed sucessfully, I am now gonna reboot
[00:34] <jp--> :S
[00:35] <arand> cjae: Nope kernels are separate versions, to allow for fallback.
[00:35] <suhail> what command do i type on terminal to get yum
[00:36] <cjae> arand: ok so what if I have four kernel entries and keep it at that, will I get more than 4 kernels including the recovery kernels
[00:37] <cjae> arand: or is that only if I upgrade the distro version 9.04 to 9.10
[00:37] <ambersean> its a permission thing.  how can i get around the permissions to mount this drive?
[00:37] <heretic9> so, anyone know how do you set an pin code at shell for mobile phone over bluetooth?
[00:37] <Brainsturbator> can someone help me with something? I cracked my monitor and its all rainbowy at the bottom, is there a way to change it to display my desktop ABOVE that part thats rainbowy? :P
[00:39] <arand> cjae: Every now and again a new kernel version is released, at that point you'll have to remove the old one to keep it at 4 entries, i don't know if there are any automated ways to do that, I know I've seen old kernel being uninstalled automatically, but I don't know the procedure in that...
[00:39] <plitter> is there a way to have an image in the virtual consoles?
[00:40] <plitter> like a small pic in down right corner?
[00:40] <jleeperry> How do I convert .wma files to .mp3 files?
[00:40] <cjae> what about using windows boot loader have an option for ubuntu
[00:41] <plitter> jleeperry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[00:45] <Brainsturbator> can someone help me with something? I cracked my monitor and its all rainbowy at the bottom, is there a way to change it to display my desktop ABOVE that part thats rainbowy? :P
[00:46] <robb> Brainsturbator: this isn't #hardware
[00:46] <Brainsturbator> well it doesnt ahve to do with hardware
[00:46] <Brainsturbator> i dont think
[00:46] <Brainsturbator> more of display settings?
[00:46] <robb> if the screen is cracked, then it's probably broken
[00:46] <robb> the matrix
[00:46] <BHoward> wow sorry brain I dont know of any settings do that
[00:46] <robb> or vacuum tube
[00:46] <ahmedaak88> im new to linux is there a way to learn all the aspects in linux a book you can recommend to me
[00:47] <BHoward> ill look around, who knows it may be possible
[00:47] <privateabstract> ahmedaak88: If you're using Ubuntu -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0132435942
[00:47] <jp--> Seveas, it won't boot. Says it didn't find the root device :/
[00:47] <BHoward> I had an update come through one time that did that to my screen on accident so it is possible
[00:47] <robb> i doubt there's a way to make a screen only use 1/2 or such
[00:47] <jp--> and it's the same device...
[00:48] <jp--> same kernel
[00:48] <Brainsturbator> well i dont want to change the area it displays... Kinda like Full screen and Widescreen works
[00:48] <ahmedaak88> ty
[00:49] <kthomas_vh> I have a new 9.10 install
[00:49] <privateabstract> Brainsturbator: you can't do it, you'd have to change the graphics card
[00:49] <`mOOse`> anybody use identd - if so which do you use?
[00:49] <kthomas_vh> via vncserver,  I'm getting "gnome unable to determine the session we are in"
[00:51] <kotsu> Anyone have luck getting screenbuffer to work under Karmic?
[00:52] <kotsu> I just get a black screen when I CTRL+ALT F7
[00:52] <kotsu> I mean CTRL+ALT F1
[00:52] <kotsu> brb
[00:53] <robb> ctrl alt f1 is first terminal
[00:54] <robb> ctrl alt f7 is the X terminal
[00:55] <kotsu> Right robb.. but after enable framebuffer I don't get anything.
[00:55] <kotsu> I googled and found people with the same problem.
[00:55] <kotsu> Wondering if anyone else is able to get it working under Karmic.
[00:55] <Trek> perhaps it was removed kotsu
[00:56] <Trek> or perhaps support for it was removed, kotsu
[00:56] <kotsu> Oh that would completely suck if they removed framebuffer.
[00:56] <kotsu> Certainly that can't be the case. :(
[00:57] <qwertyjustin> hey guys ive started ubuntu, but it only starts with command line screen
[00:57] <qwertyjustin> is there  a "win" command, to make the gui load up?
[00:57] <blakkheim> qwertyjustin: sounds perfect
[00:57] <cant> get the volume button back on the task bar   in 9.10
[00:57] <kotsu> xstart qwerty
[00:57] <robb> qwertyjustin: xstart
[00:57] <robb> cant, in control panel
[00:58] <epifanio> hi All
[00:58] <epifanio> please, can you help me to know the name of my ethernet hardware ?
[00:58] <snoopy> Can I install linux on a mexican computer? lol
[00:58] <cant> dont know where it is
[00:59] <aztek[tum]> if i run rsync /path1 /path2 that should just rsync and quit right?
[00:59] <blakkheim> snoopy: you can install linux on a toaster
[00:59] <kotsu> I tried configuring framebuffer under karmic as per these instructions: http://lab.frontseed.com/tags/karmic-koala
[00:59] <snoopy> okay well
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> epifanio, "lspci | grep -i ethernet"
[00:59] <FHFHS> Hi
[00:59] <qwertyjustin> thanks guys
[00:59] <tt5786> hey guys i am trying to install msttcorefonts  using sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts  and i get the following error E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[00:59] <qiyong> what is the input method now?
[00:59] <qiyong> the pkg name
[00:59] <snoopy> i installed linux on a mexican computer and i set everything up but it went to a blank black screen insted of going to the desktop
[00:59] <qiyong> it is not scim now
[01:00] <qiyong> what is its name?
[01:00] <kotsu> I'm using anthy Japanese
[01:00] <epifanio> ZykoticK9: thanks!
[01:00] <cant> how do I get to the control panel
[01:00] <Meddy> Siema ktoś PL? Potrzebuje pomocy...
[01:00] <FHFHS> ppl,need help. My mic works only firs ~5 minutes after the boot, then it just dies. What can it be?
[01:00] <snoopy> anyone
[01:01] <Meddy> I need help. How to get mp3 files from windows?
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> tt5786, do you have a package ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?  not-sure you will.
[01:01] <Meddy> I'm new in ubuntu
[01:01] <kotsu> Your MP3 files on a different machine?
[01:01] <kotsu> Or different drive?
[01:01] <tt5786> i have no idear
[01:01] <jp--> guys... how can I find out the name that will get the filesystem partition of a usb flash drive? I've tried using sda1, sdb1, sdc1... but can't get it to boot using exec, after a dist-upgrade--- btw, it didn't upgrade the kernel :/
[01:01] <Meddy> difften f=drive...
[01:01] <Meddy> i think
[01:01] <robb> think?
[01:01] <Meddy> i'm booting ubuntu from pendrive
[01:01] <Trek> Meddy: mount the windows drive in Ubuntu, find where you stored it
[01:02] <jp--> it's the same one that was on 8.04, I did a dist-upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, it shows,  "Begin: Waiting for root file system
[01:02] <Trek> Meddy: mount the windows drive in Ubuntu, find where you stored the MP3s
[01:02] <jp--> any help would be appreciated
[01:02] <kotsu> Yup
[01:02] <tt5786> i dont think so zykotick9
[01:02] <cant> Wherre is the control panel in ubuntu 9.10
[01:02] <kotsu> Meddy should be under your "places" dropdown.
[01:02] <Meddy> wait...
[01:03] <FHFHS> ppl,need help. My mic works only firs ~5 minutes after the boot, then it just dies. What can it be?
[01:03] <JStoone> cant, what control panel do you mean?
[01:03] <rambo298> iceroot you still there?
[01:03] <plitter> is there a guide to change the appearance of the virtual consoles? maybe pics of a small penguin down in the right corner?
[01:04] <kotsu> plitter.. you able to get framebuffer working?
[01:04] <plitter> yes
[01:04] <kotsu> Under karmic?
[01:04] <plitter> yes
[01:04] <kotsu> It's killing me,.
[01:04] <JStoone> FHFHS, have you tried to right click the "volume" button and then "Sound Preferences" ?
[01:04] <plitter> if u mean to change resolution?
[01:04] <kotsu> Yes.
[01:04] <tt5786> any one know how to install msttcorefonts
[01:04] <kotsu> Virtual console
[01:04] <rambo298> anyone know how to get around an authentication failed repetitive message on boot? i mistakenly deleted the pam.d directory
[01:04] <kotsu> I tried this guide no worky.
[01:04] <kotsu> http://lab.frontseed.com/tags/karmic-koala
[01:04] <cant> JStoone  the control panel to get my volume button back on the taskbar\
[01:04] <qiyong> kotsu, what's the frame above anthy?
[01:05] <plitter> kotsu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8817976#post8817976
[01:05] <autoclesis> what 's the best PC for ubuntu
[01:05] <JStoone> cant, let me check one sec.
[01:05] <plitter> kotsu: try this
[01:05] <Trek> !best | autoclesis
[01:05] <Trek> autoclesis: same thing applies
[01:05] <Trek> autoclesis: there's no one "best" computer for ubuntu
[01:05] <jp--> it's s GTP partition table...
[01:05] <rambo298> any takers on authentication errors?
[01:06] <plitter> kotsu: please comment if it worked or didnt, cause i am going to sleep soon:P
[01:06] <kotsu> Oh. Sorry.
[01:06] <kotsu> Missed the link.
[01:06] <kotsu> One moment...
[01:06] <Meddy> How to get the files from windows, I'm booting ubuntu form pendrive, I can't see files like in windows
[01:06] <plitter> np
[01:06] <FHFHS> JStoone Yeah, sure. Everything shows work just fine. But after 5 minutes, mic dies, but i didnt touch anything, and all prefferencess are the same
[01:06] <autoclesis> if you were buying a computer just for ubuntu
[01:07] <JStoone> cant, have you tried right clicking and then "Add to Panel..."
[01:07] <Trek> autoclesis: i'd create a computer from custom parts
[01:07] <rambo298> can i repair ubuntu somehow so pam (authentication) gets reinstalled?
[01:07] <JStoone> FHFHS, that really sounds wierd.. have you tried to update your hardware?
[01:07] <plitter> kotsu: meant in the forum:)
[01:07] <cant> there is a remove from panel but no add to panel
[01:07] <kotsu> plitter.. thanks for the link.  I'll give this a try.
[01:08] <ZykoticK9> tt5786, it should be "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[01:08] <FHFHS> JStoone,  hardware? I have a laptop, i cant change my soundcard here
[01:08] <cant> ok, found the add to but volume isnt on it
[01:08] <plitter> kotsu: np, hope it works:) i spent a lot time getting it to work on mine:P
[01:08] <kotsu> Roger that plitter.
[01:08] <autoclesis> thanks trek but if you were just going to get a dell or vaio or whatever
[01:10] <Trek> autoclesis: not a dell :P
[01:10] <JStoone> FHFHS, What I mean is going to 'system-administration-hardware drives'
[01:10] <autoclesis> hehe
[01:10] <autoclesis> well that's one down
[01:10] <autoclesis> i've got debian on a compaq and it's perfect
[01:10] <JStoone> FHFHS, drivers*
[01:11] <autoclesis> i'll just choose at random
[01:11] <Trek> autoclesis, i say "not a dell" because their hardware dies EASY
[01:11] <kotsu> plitter.. made the changes.. rebooting.  wish me luck.
[01:11] <tt5786> how can i install msttcorefonts
[01:11] <Trek> tt5786, isn't there a package for it>
[01:11] <autoclesis> thanks trek. seriously
[01:11] <cant> Can someone help me get the volume button back on my taskbar... It was there and I accidently deleted it..
[01:11] <JStoone> FHFHS, read this topic http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=57685.   and read sveterv_'s post.
[01:11] <FHFHS> JStoone, will do
[01:11] <FHFHS> thx
[01:11] <JStoone> FHFHS, I assume it's the skype bug?
[01:11] <tt5786> i cant find
[01:11] <autoclesis> compaq presario is okay for ubuntu 9.10?
[01:11] <FHFHS> JStoone yes
[01:12] <Trek> autoclesis, I use 9.04, so I wouldn't know about 9.10
[01:12] <tt5786> i can not find it
[01:12] <Concretesledge> ok folks, im installing UBUNTU dual boot with win7, im at the partitioning guide, should i just move the little curser backword to 20gb  for ubuntu, and install.... will that work, or should i go back into windows, create a free space partition, and then do it?
[01:12] <pH_> m trying to access a folder that is shared on my windows network with samba
[01:12] <pH_> but when i double click it, i got an permission fail
[01:12] <pH_> how to fix that?
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> tt5786, did you try "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" ?
[01:12] <heretic9> anyone here who has been able to pair cellphone with bluetooth on shell?
[01:12] <autoclesis> should i use 9.04 instead?
[01:12] <tt5786> i will now
[01:12] <Concretesledge> autoclesis 9.10 is good.
[01:12] <autoclesis> thanks concrete
[01:12] <snoopy> 9.04 is better than 9.10 is you ask me :D
[01:12] <autoclesis> okay, one last dumb question
[01:12] <autoclesis> hehe snoopy
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> snoopy, +1
[01:13] <Trek> lol snoopy, +10
[01:13] <snoopy> i had to many probs with 9.10
[01:13] <autoclesis> how do i get linux onto the PC without using windows to download the new op sys
[01:13] <autoclesis> disks ?
[01:13] <autoclesis> i know, dumb q
[01:13] <Concretesledge> ive had nothing but less problems with 9.10
[01:13] <Trek> autoclesis: you can order an ubuntu CD
[01:13] <autoclesis> i used disks for freespire after wiping window 2000s
[01:14] <tt5786> its installing thanks
[01:15] <autoclesis>  http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-video-DVD-Training-Reference-commands/dp/B0018KUB6Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1266020676&sr=8-3
[01:15] <autoclesis> like that?
[01:15] <JStoone> FHFHS, tell me if it works, alright?
[01:15] <FHFHS> JStoone sure. sounds right so long. I wil ltry to fix it ))) Thx
[01:15] <cant> How Do I get the volume button back on the taskbar??  Where is the Control Panel??
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> cant, did you happen to remove pulse audio?
[01:16] <cant> not that I am aware
[01:16] <Guest37707> i have dual booted ubuntu 9.10 with ubuntu 7.10 and i cant arrow down to the other os
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> cant, k - just checking
[01:17] <cant> I have dual boot with windows xp     and ubuntu 9.10  Had the volume button on the taskbar but del it by accident
[01:17] <seanamber> guys, i was running with bad memory for a while, and i have reason to believe that my packages got a bit messed up.  isnt there a way to go through my packages and my disk to fix the errors?
[01:17] <JStoone> FHFHS, No problem, just trying to help as good as I can. How experienced are you in these kind of environments?
[01:18] <piero> Is there a apt-accelerator? Something that opens multiple connections to download the same file (reason: in my shared internet connection I need to open 3 or 4 connections to have good download rate due to competition with other computers)
[01:18] <JStoone> seanamber, have you tried to "sudo apt-get update"? and then use the Update-Manager?
[01:19] <blakkheim> piero: why use update manager when you can just aptitude full-upgrade?
[01:19] <blakkheim> JStoone: sorry that was for you
[01:19] <FHFHS> JStoone, hmm...not at all ))) but i'm learning ;)
[01:20] <seanamber> jstoone, yeah, it says everythings alright
[01:20] <piero> blakkheim, I think that is not an answer to me..
[01:20] <cant> How Do I get the volume button back on the taskbar??  Where is the Control Panel??
[01:20] <jp--> any ideas?
[01:20] <jp--> :(
[01:20] <piero> I'm asking about an accelerator
[01:20] <blakkheim> piero: see what i said right after it
[01:21] <piero> blakkheim, it's not easy to me. I need to translate what your words..
[01:21] <JStoone> blakkheim, dunno, sorry a little new myself trying to be helpfull *laugh*
[01:21] <seanamber> jstoone, yeah it does everything alright and says there are no updates, but when it updated the last time it gave an error
[01:21] <jp--> Imma try to boot the kernel with kexec using the UUID of the ext3 partition of the flash drive
[01:21] <seanamber> jstoone, i bet some of my old packages got messed up, i remember there being a way to go through and check everything?
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> piero, i've never heard of any sort of apt-accelerator before - just choosing a closer/faster mirror.  Best of luck man.
[01:22] <jp--> did not work.
[01:22] <jp--> omg.
[01:22] <jp--> :'(
[01:22] <JStoone> seanamber, is there some specific apps that does not work correctly? If there are witch?
[01:22] <cant> How Do I get the volume button back on the taskbar??  Where is the Control Panel??  So    nobody can help me???
[01:22] <JStoone> cant, I'm looking (:
[01:23] <blakkheim> !repeat | cant
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> cant, there isn't really a "control panel" anymore.  typically the volume just shows up - do you see a network icon?
[01:23] <cant> no,  no network either
[01:24] <cant> but obviously it too works
[01:24] <seanamber> jstoone, actually things seem to be working :-), i just got nervous when i saw that error on the last update
[01:24] <`mOOse`> anybody use identd - if so which do you use?
[01:24] <seanamber> jstoone, E: linux-image-2.6.31-19-generic: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:24] <cant> thanks JStoone.. I thought you forgot me
[01:25] <JStoone> seanamber, well errors are some bitches but they are only dangerous when they slap you the second time (;
[01:26] <JStoone> cant, no, no, no, not leaving you behind (:
[01:27] <v3rr3z> Hi
[01:27] <v3rr3z> I was wondering if you can move Ubuntu to another HDD without having to reinstall.
[01:28] <JStoone> cant, try hitting F11 and then hit it again, sometimes that works ? (:
[01:28] <tbrock> hey guys, i'bve got 2 hard drives, one brand new and blank, the other with stuff on it, they are the same exact type and size and I want to make a raid 1 out of them for a mirror
[01:29] <tbrock> is there a way to create a broken raid 1
[01:29] <cant> JStoone   didnt work
[01:29] <tbrock> move the files to the new drive
[01:29] <tbrock> then add the second disk to the raid
[01:29] <Alestan> Hey all, I got this error message trying to boot a system with super grub disk:  'error: Kernel doesn't contain suitable architecture'
[01:30] <Alestan> I think the image might have ubuntu 64bit installed instead of 32bit... Is that the case?
[01:30] <heretic9> is anyone here who has been able to pair cellphone with bluetooth on shell?
[01:30] <robb> so, ubuntu just can't do dual display with vesa and nv drivers
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> cant, try right clicking on an empty part of your panel - Add to Panel and select Notification Area and see if that brings it back
[01:32] <heretic9> there's million guides.. only got the issue on pairing the phone. just dropping me incorrect pin.
[01:32] <v3rr3z> Could you move Ubuntu By simply putting the files into another HDD Partition?
[01:32] <meowbuntu> hi
[01:32] <meowbuntu> hi
[01:33] <Trek> !hi | meowbuntu
[01:33] <Guest101010> hi
[01:33] <meowbuntu> i am wondering if there is a later version of openoffice. i have 3.1 atm
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> v3rr3z, reinstalling is your best bet, BUT you could theoretically try using dd or a livecd like clonezilla to move an installed system to another computer - you might run into issues with hardware trying this mind you, best of luck.
[01:33] <meowbuntu> Trek, yes i'm frequent here thanks though
[01:34] <v3rr3z> Thanks
[01:34] <nfv> hola atodos
[01:34] <v3rr3z> How do you uninstall Ubuntu.. Just del the partition?
[01:34] <mengu> hi. how can i remove a resolution that's in the output of xrandr?
[01:34] <nfv> tengo un problema con mi disco duro me pueden colaborar?
[01:34] <^kub^> !es nfv
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> v3rr3z, you don't uninstall it as you suggested, just install whatever you want overtop
[01:34] <meowbuntu> v3rr3z, thats easy put cd in and install it
[01:34] <nfv> gracias
[01:35] <meowbuntu> v3rr3z, how new are you to ubuntu and linux
[01:35] <qwertyjustin> hey guys, xstart in the command line at startup doesnt work?
[01:35] <Alestan> v3rr3z a fresh install can be imaged onto something else with more luck than an already configured system.
[01:36] <qwertyjustin> any ideas
[01:36] <v3rr3z> I need to move HDDs is the issuse.. The one I have Ubuntu on .. Is getting alot of Bad Sector errors.
[01:36] <meowbuntu> v3rr3z, y do you want to uninstall ubuntu
[01:36] <nfv> lo que sucede es que estoy tratando de instalar otra distro en mi pc, iba a mirar las particiones que tiene, y cuando lo miro me dice que no tiene particiones
[01:36] <v3rr3z> Also.. Seems to be running slow.
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, the command is "startx"
[01:36] <blakkheim> !es
[01:36] <meowbuntu> v3rr3z, how new are you to ubuntu and linux
[01:36] <nfv> tambien trate de arreglarlo por un live cd el hirens boot, pero lo pongo en la unidad, reuinicio y no lo toma, lo salta y entra de una vez a buntu
[01:36] <v3rr3z> Less then a hour.
[01:36] <v3rr3z> xD!
[01:37] <v3rr3z> I am dual booting windows 7 and Ubuntu
[01:37] <meowbuntu> ok can i pm you
[01:37] <meowbuntu> ^ v3
[01:37] <meowbuntu> v3rr3z, ok can i pm you
[01:37] <`mOOse`> verb3k, that's what clonezilla can do
[01:37] <v3rr3z> Indeed
[01:37] <`mOOse`> actually ghost is better at it actually
[01:38] <qwertyjustin> cheers
[01:38] <mengu> hi. how can i remove a resolution that's in the output of xrandr?
[01:38] <mengu> i'd like to remove these:
[01:38] <mengu>    1280x1024_74.90   59.9
[01:38] <mengu>    1280x1024_59.90   59.9
[01:39] <happyface> This PCs ubuntu installation is slow. Is there an easy way to reset everything just like a format, or is it better to actually reformat?
[01:39] <JStoone> cant, AHA! are you still there?
[01:40] <jp--> thanks for the help anyway. I'm installing Ubuntu 9.04 now.
[01:41] <`mOOse`> happyface, there is a pgm that will return ubuntu back to a "fresh install" state
[01:41] <TheLastDodo> A quick question... does Karmic Koala still use the xorg.conf to tweak things such as supported resolutions and the like, or has that functionality been moved?
[01:42] <robb> has anyone gotten a second card working with vesa driver as asecondary display?
[01:42] <seanbrystone> moose you got a link for that pgm?
[01:42] <`mOOse`> I think it's called computer janitor - look in synaptic
[01:42] <seanbrystone> k
[01:42] <jrib> !fixres > TheLastDodo
[01:43] <Amaranth> robb: you can't do that, only one card gets its vesa tables mapped
[01:43] <JStoone> TheLastDodo, Yes it is still here. Go to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:43] <robb> Amaranth: first card is agp geforce2ti using nv driver
[01:43] <Amaranth> robb: but the primary card is also the one that gets mapped
[01:43] <robb> oho
[01:44] <robb> so no way to get vesa + some other card, working
[01:45] <robb> Amaranth: ?
[01:45] <Amaranth> robb: no, they both need to have a proper driver
[01:45] <robb> that would confirm what my google-fu is sensing
[01:45] <robb> ok
[01:45] <Lx3> I want to have two window managers how do I do that?
[01:46] <racecar56> i'm using KDE 4.3.2 with a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10, and pidgin refuses to go inside of the indicator applet
[01:46] <Amaranth> Lx3: that is not possible unless you have two separate screens setup in Xorg (setup in the way that makes it so you can't drag windows between them)
[01:46] <robb> Amaranth: no where on web could confirm this for me
[01:46] <robb> thanks for helping answer :)
[01:47] <Lx3> Amaranth i dont want them at the same time different window for different manager
[01:47] <methods2> what happened to all the pulse audio configuration tools ?
[01:47] <methods2> the gui appears to be custom now
[01:47] <Amaranth> Lx3: err, you can't have a different one for each window
[01:47] <Amaranth> Lx3: you can quit one and start another but they cannot be running at the same time
[01:48] <Lx3> thats what i want
[01:48] <JStoone> Hi, how do I get my Apache server "online" and not only local?
[01:48] <Lx3> my windows of choice are Gnome (default) moblin (secondary)
[01:48] <mengu> JStoone: you mean i can't remove the resolutions? but i have added them?
[01:48] <snoopy> my ubuntu got a virus
[01:48] <racecar56> snoopy: how'd you get a virus??
[01:49] <snoopy> it keeps telling me to update
[01:49] <Lx3> snoopy: how??
[01:49] <snoopy> and i dont want too
[01:49] <`mOOse`> lol
[01:49] <`mOOse`> dang viruses!
[01:49] <snoopy> }:
[01:49] <racecar56> snoopy: it's a setting that makes it do that
[01:49] <racecar56> snoopy: i wish the ubuntu developers wouldn't have made it like that, it reminds me of Windows
[01:49] <JStoone> mengu, Sorry? what is your problem?
[01:49] <Lx3> Amaranth: any ideas??
[01:50] <mengu> i want to remove a resolution that's in the output of xrandr.
[01:50] <mengu> i have added them but i added wrong
[01:50] <Amaranth> Lx3: for that you should have a session option at the login screen
[01:50] <mengu> one is working good, others don't.
[01:50] <Amaranth> Lx3: you can't change desktop environments without logging out though
[01:50] <JStoone> mengu, ohm.. let me take a loo
[01:51] <mengu> JStoone: i added them with gtf
[01:51] <JStoone> mengu, aha...
[01:52] <Lx3> i am totally ok with logging out, that is what i want, but how do I install the moblin eviorment so I can choose?
[01:52] <racecar56> Lx3: make a file in /usr/share/xsessions called moblin.desktop
[01:53] <racecar56> Lx3: then put the contents of some other file in /usr/share/xsessions into it
[01:53] <racecar56> Lx3: and modify them to work with it
[01:53] <snoopy> i tired install linux on a mexican computer
[01:53] <JStoone> mengu, sorry I cannot help..
[01:53] <snoopy> and it didnt work
[01:54] <snoopy> it installs and all but insted of going to the desktop it goes to a blackscreen
[01:54] <JStoone> mengu, are you running dual screen?
[01:54] <mengu> i don't know what is dual screen
[01:55] <JStoone> mengu, two monitors?
[01:55] <mengu> JStoone: nope.
[01:55] <mengu> one old 17" crt
[01:56] <JStoone> mengu, so does this fault cause any harm to your screen? Is it misplaced or ?
[01:57] <mengu> JStoone
[01:57] <JStoone> mengu, yes?
[01:57] <mengu> nope.
[01:57] <mengu>    1440x900_59.90   59.9*
[01:57] <mengu>    1280x1024_74.90   59.9
[01:57] <mengu>    1280x1024_59.90   59.9
[01:57] <FloodBot4> mengu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <mengu> the only one that works is 1440
[01:57] <mengu> i have added the other two wrong.
[01:57] <mengu> i am currently using 1440 and i have no problem.
[01:57] <mengu> the problem is i cannot add another 1280 while these two are there
[01:58] <blakkheim> !enter | mengu
[01:59] <JStoone> mengu, oh, well.. I have no good trubleshoots, have you looked in your  xorg.conf and searched for something to delete?
[02:01] <JStoone> mengu, I am going to sleep now, but add me on friend list and I will be online to look for a solution, ok?
[02:02] <JStoone> mengu, well i'll be online tomorrw so see youi.
[02:06] <meowbuntu> hi hows things
[02:06] <meowbuntu> i am wondering if there is a later version of openoffice. i have 3.1 atm
[02:06] <grkblood13> how do i add songs to my ipod?
[02:07] <seanamber> hey, i think i sort of deleted my kernel with tweak ui kernel clean up.  but somehow the package dependencies were screwed up already.  btw, i was running for quite a while with bad memory, so i feel like the kernel packages could have download wrong somehow?
[02:07] <seanamber> anyway, i want to install the latest kernel.  how do i do that?
[02:09] <gregorovitch> meowbuntu: there is ver 3.2 in windows anyway. Haven't tried it yet.
[02:10] <Finesse|cathep> i have a question, i installed unbuntu, it installed flawlessly, but i ran the updates and now when i try to boot into unbuntu it takes me to grub
[02:10] <grkblood13> its DEAD in here
[02:10] <grkblood13> its never dead
[02:10] <Finesse|cathep> and never goes to unbuntu
[02:10] <teage> holla me amigos
[02:11] <iflema> grkblood13 try rhythmbox... its install by default....
[02:11] <tweiseman> need help with wireless on ubuntu!! i have wicd and am using a iwred connection it will not pick up my wireless router
[02:11] <superkuh> totem is horrible and it is always going zombie.
[02:11] <grkblood13> iflema, i dont see where you can upppload with rhythembox
[02:12] <Finesse|cathep> i have a question, i installed unbuntu, it installed flawlessly, but i ran the updates and now when i try to boot into unbuntu it takes me to grub
[02:12] <Finesse|cathep> and never goes to unbuntu
[02:12] <seanamber> maybe something like this, i want to reinstal the latest kernel.  make sense?
[02:12] <iflema> grkblood13 its drop and drag...... make sure you can see the side pane F9
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> seanamber:  the package manager has a --reinstall option
[02:13] <seanamber> which should i reinstall?
[02:13] <seanamber> what package?
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> check the package manager for the kernel version/package names.
[02:14] <seanamber> yeah, for me 17 is working, 19 is not.  so i intalled the same packages for 19.
[02:14] <seanamber> hope i got the right stuff?
[02:14] <Guest101010> halo
[02:14] <xtheunknown0> I'm running Xubuntu: how do I get my netgear wg511 to work?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> but the kernels are kept installed anyway. You should be able to boot to the old kernels unless you removed them
[02:15] <jestinjoy> hello..anybody know how to install eclipse galileo on jaunty?
[02:15] <seanamber> i think i removed them with tweak ui :0)
[02:16] <Guest101010> i can't installed modem pantech-px500, can you help me pls
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> TweakUI is a windows tool - last i looked...
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> theres 'ubuntutweak'  :)
[02:16] <seanamber> yeah, that one :-)
[02:16] <seanamber> i just want to put everything back / reinstall 19
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> never noticed a clean kernels feature in ubuntu tweak.. but then again, i know to keep a few old kernels about anyway
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[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Hm they do have a clean-kernel feature.
[02:18] <Bllasae> wtf was that
[02:18] <v3rr3z> any built in system backup programs in ubuntu
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  not sure if any are inluded by default. but theres dozens to chose from - depeng on your needs
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[02:19] <Boots32M> Yeah!!! I'm on umbuntu chat with a MS XP comp... (shame seeps out of face onto the floor)
[02:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis, technically tar is included.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> SpaceGhostC2C:  so is cp & dd if ya want to get silly. and dd
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:20] <millertimek1a2m3> !sbackup
[02:20] <millertimek1a2m3> !cloning
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> I have live cds that are dedicated to backing up ystems :)
[02:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis, well, I was thinking something a little less, elementary?
[02:20] <`mOOse`> ghost will clone an install and allow you to re-install to a smaller or larger partition - clonezilla will clone also but it won't do that
[02:20] <Boots32M> Well I have an averatec 1000 series computer and need some major help. made the little thumb drive OS for netbook remix... just can't connect to anything but my keyboard speakers and screen.
[02:21] <nasrullah> can i use a live cd to correct some erors on my xubuntu desktop???
[02:21] <ujkanovic> hi is
[02:21] <seanamber> dr_willis, type clean-kernel?
[02:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> I think he was asking about built in backup methods. There is also the community documentation.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> That 'fsarchiver' tool is also handy in some cases.. it depends on what you need
[02:21] <ujkanovic> some one her i need help
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> seanamber:  ubuntu-tweak has a 'clean kernel' feature
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> seanamber:  ive never noticed it befor in the program
[02:21] <seanamber> i think thats how i deleted it in the first place?
[02:22] <seanamber> i want to put it back :-)
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> seanamber:  so fire up the package manager.. and reinstall it
[02:22] <Guest40552> hello ?
[02:22] <Guest40552> xD
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> linux-image-###########-generic
[02:22] <seanamber> ok, i think i did, let me resetart and see what happens
[02:22] <seanamber> yeah, i did that
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Hello Guest40552
[02:22] <Boots32M> averatec 1000 series computer need help. made thumb drive OS for netbook remix... just can't connect to anything but my keyboard speakers and screen.
[02:22] <seanamber> ok, let me see what happens when i restart, i might haev done it right :-)
[02:22] <ujkanovic> i need
[02:22] <ujkanovic> help
[02:22] <ujkanovic> he;loooooooooo
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> !ask | ujkanovic
[02:23] <ujkanovic> help me some one in her
[02:23] <ujkanovic> i have a test1@aalms:/$ cat /etc/issue
[02:23] <ujkanovic> Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l
[02:23] <ujkanovic> and i cant set a new password on my user
[02:23] <robertzaccour> i have 2 questions
[02:23] <ujkanovic> test1@aalms:/$ passwd
[02:23] <ujkanovic> Current Kerberos password:
[02:23] <ujkanovic> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[02:23] <ujkanovic> passwd: password unchanged
[02:23] <ujkanovic> test1@aalms:/$
[02:23] <FloodBot2> ujkanovic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:23] <robertzaccour> how do i know if my system is 64 bit? and if it is would 64 bit edition be faster?
[02:24] <nasrullah> pls tell which netbook is well fit for xubuntu or ubuntu??
[02:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> nasrullah, try looking at system76 systems.
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  depends on your cpu. and i always use 64bit if i can
[02:24] <Boots32M> nice little driver pack for averatec 1000 series(msi wind remake)???
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> nasrullah: most netbooks will do either fine. Im using the Ubuntu netbook remix on my AAO. I perfer ubuntu to xubuntu
[02:24] <nasrullah> thank you
[02:25] <Boots32M> k gotta get... bbl:)
[02:25] <nickware> anyone know how to enable sound from a SoundMAX card in a Dell Dimension 4600?
[02:25] <robertzaccour> dual core processor is that 64 bit?
[02:26] <`mOOse`> um no robertzaccour
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, if you are currently running a linux os you can use "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and it should tell you
[02:27] <iflema> nasrullah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[02:27] <nasrullah> thank you
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  they can be. it depends on the cpu
[02:28] <jacek> hi
[02:28] <blakkheim> robertzaccour: grep address /proc/cpuinfo
[02:28] <thechris> Anyone else use Compiz?
[02:28] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, what am i looking for in this script?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> thechris:  a great many people use compiz
[02:29] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, "model name"
[02:29] <Irishmanluke> Can someone help me to get my mic to work?
[02:29] <thechris> Dr_Willis, I am having a windows moment.  Yesterday, and for the past month, it worked.  today, it doesnt
[02:29] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4400  @ 2.20GHz ???
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, i believe that's 32bit it's the Core2Duo that's 64bit -- i think
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> thechris:  explain to the channel whats its doing and not.  open a terminal and try 'compiz --replace'  and look for error messages
[02:30] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, oh ok thanks. how do i find out for sure?
[02:31] <kad__> what is the command on CLI to list so to check if file is "ln" or not file ? thx
[02:31] <cool-thing_506> * kj4 (~kj4@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu * raindog has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * lw4z (~lw4z@189.22.148.132) has joined #ubuntu <Boots32M> k gotta get... bbl:)  * Boots32M (~boots_whi@64.134.242.151) has left #ubuntu * v3rr3z has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) <nickware> anyone know how to enable sound from a SoundMAX card in a Dell Dimension 4600?  
[02:31] <cool-thing_506> * kj4 (~kj4@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu * raindog has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * lw4z (~lw4z@189.22.148.132) has joined #ubuntu <Boots32M> k gotta get... bbl:)  * Boots32M (~boots_whi@64.134.242.151) has left #ubuntu * v3rr3z has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) <nickware> anyone know how to enable sound from a SoundMAX card in a Dell Dimension 4600?  
[02:31] <FloodBot2> cool-thing_506: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <cool-thing_506> * kj4 (~kj4@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu * raindog has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * lw4z (~lw4z@189.22.148.132) has joined #ubuntu <Boots32M> k gotta get... bbl:)  * Boots32M (~boots_whi@64.134.242.151) has left #ubuntu * v3rr3z has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]) <nickware> anyone know how to enable sound from a SoundMAX card in a Dell Dimension 4600?  
[02:32] <snoopy> what is love
[02:32] <snoopy> baby dont hurt
[02:32] <snoopy> dont hurt me
[02:32] <fordgt> no more
[02:32] <snoopy> no more
[02:32] <thechris> Dr_Willis, no error.  it just doesn't do the opacity
[02:32] <blakkheim> !ot
[02:32] <lgc> Hi, just discovered Ubuntu One (call me slow). Wonder if I need to rewrite everything needing backup to the Ubuntu One folder.
[02:32] <iflema> kad__ ls -a look at the far left d = directory, l = link , - =regular file
[02:33] <iflema> kad__ ls -la
[02:33] <kad__> iflema, thx
[02:33] <snoopy> well can someone help me
[02:33] <fordgt> lgc: if you want to back them up to the Ubuntu One service, they must be copied to the Ubuntu one folder
[02:33] <`mOOse`> no, you sing crappy music
[02:33] <snoopy> }:
[02:34] <thechris> Other questions of the day -- how to actually play media.  this too has stopped working correctly for me.
[02:34] <lgc> fordgt, but that makes 2 versions of the same files, one within and one without. Doesn't it?
[02:34] <robertzaccour> thechris, have you tried using vlc?
[02:34] <q0_0p> !codecs
[02:34] <thechris> VLC = memory leak.  "Movie Player" = stutters,  Mplayer = bad menus
[02:34] <blakkheim> thechris: mplayer-nogui
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, looks like i was incorrect, according to the following page it's 64 bit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_microprocessors
[02:35] <Spirits-Sight> what the cmd that has dpkg confugure -a ? I am missing some thing of the command
[02:35] <robertzaccour> thechris, gxine? totem-xine? dragon-player?
[02:35] <robb> heh, who is Idoru (i know the william gibson reference)
[02:35] <thechris> blakkheim, that's pretty much where I am right now.
[02:35] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, oh ok thanks man
[02:35] <blakkheim> thechris: good choice then, although i used a version with multithreading support that i compiled
[02:35] <robb> a bot, ah
[02:35] <fordgt> lgc: I think what you are saying is that will having it stored in the Ubuntu One folder make it local and backed up on Ubuntu One, and the answer I believe is yes
[02:35] <robb> good name for one :)
[02:36] <robertzaccour> does xubuntu have a 64 bit version?
[02:36] <fordgt> robertzaccour: it should have a 64bit version, check out the xubuntu page
[02:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> robertzaccour, it should. You can always get ubuntu and install XFCE on it.
[02:36] <robertzaccour> ok thanks
[02:36] <fordgt> it's not a lightweight Ubuntu, it just has a different window manager than Ubuntu
[02:36] <thechris> So back to Compiz, how do I enable the opacity plugin if it is already enabled?
[02:37] <thechris> eh, i guess nevermind.  compiz --replace seems to have fixed it.
[02:38] <robertzaccour> i don't see it on the page but if i can't find it i'll just install ubuntu 64 bit and put in the pure xfce command thanks yall
[02:38] <hipitihop> my bluetooth mouse and/or keyboard keeps timing out when not in use and I have to repair via 'sudo hidd --search' .. driving me nuts, can someone help
[02:39] <quicksilver_> Hey, I'm trying to set up Kino to capture sound.... How do I know if my Audio Device is /dev/dsp or if it is something else?
[02:39] <lgc> fordgt, I mean that if you have, for instance, the directory GAMES in ~ and want it synced, you would have to make a copy of it to your Ubuntu One directory. And then any change made to ~/GAMES would not be automatically reflected on ~/Ubuntu One/GAMES. That entails two different copies in the same filesystem. The solution would be to move, instead of copy, GAMES to Ubuntu One, but that would alter your original file structure.
[02:40] <thechris> hipitihop, so far i've had good luck with just pressing random keys for a while until it wakes back up.  it can take a while
[02:40] <spikku> I'm having issues trying to get the Flash Player working correctly, anyone have experience with this?
[02:40] <spikku> i.e., I can "play" some stuff, but a Flex app won't display (for instance)
[02:40] <fordgt> lgc: oh that is true. While Ubuntu One will allow you to copy your files (presumably documents) to a folder, it will not automatically synchronize files unless they are located within the Ubuntu One directory
[02:42] <lgc> fordgt, that is like defeating the very purpose of UO, isn't it? You can have your files synced across the world but not within your same computer!
[02:42] <hipitihop> thechris, yes but frequnelty it does not and other times the the device flashes the pairing leds... surely ther eis a way to disable the timeout
[02:42] <lgc> fordgt, I can't remember if linking directories is ever possible.
[02:42] <fordgt> lgc: i'm not a huge fan of UO anyways
[02:42] <thechris> hipitihop, thus far i haven't been able to find a way to disable the timeout for my keyboard
[02:43] <fordgt> google linking directories in ubuntu
[02:43] <fordgt> maybe that will yield some solutions
[02:43] <lgc> fordgt, it's kind of nice.
[02:44] <avogadro> How do you change the resolution of the xterm login session in Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[02:44] <srsbznz> hey does anyone know how to install backtrack when i already have a dual boot?
[02:44] <fordgt> lgc: It's okay, but I like other services like Box.net better. unfortunately to my knowledge they don't have a linux client)
[02:44] <_felixsulla> Dual boot, I know I have to change default to win in menu.lst to make Windows the default, can I see its # in menu.lst so I dont have to reboot to see what number to change default to?
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> hipitihop, i've never played with bt keyboard/mouse before -- in /etc/default/bluetooth you might find something like "HIDD_OPTIONS="-timeout..."  good luck.
[02:44] <crdlb> avogadro: you can run xrandr to do it for that session only
[02:45] <Guest101010> halo Dr
[02:45] <seanamber> hey dr_willis, i'm back
[02:45] <seanamber> doesnt work
[02:46] <seanamber> can't boot off of 19, although all the packages were installed.
[02:46] <seanamber> when i do, it says it can't read the header files
[02:46] <Guest101010> hi dr willis
[02:46] <seanamber> and when i go to the boot folder, everything is there, but all the files for 19 are empty
[02:46] <iflema> _felixsulla the first entry in menu.lst is calssed as 0 the second is 1 and so on.. if win the third entry then set deafult as 2
[02:47] <seanamber> no matter what i do on synaptic gives me this report... "E: linux-image-2.6.31-19-generic: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[02:47] <seanamber> "
[02:47] <Irishmanluke> hey can anyone help me get my mic working
[02:47] <snoopy> how come my linux makes a disturbing sound when it starts up
[02:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> snoopy, because it's a security feature. If you can stand it, you can use the machine :P
[02:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> snoopy, do you want to disable it?
[02:49] <snoopy> yes please :|
[02:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> snoopy in the preferences and then to the autostart stuff, the sound is in there. I'm not at a linux machine ATM.
[02:51] <hipitihop> ZykoticK9, will have a look thanks
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> snoopy, System / Preferences / Startup Applications - uncheck GNOME Login Sound, should take care of it
[02:52] <hipitihop> ZykoticK9, unfortunately, file does not exist
[02:52] <`mOOse`> I really like my xfce DE ubuntu - none of that annoying crap to deal with
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> hipitihop, sorry man, i just found it on google and thought i'd share
[02:52] <blakkheim> `mOOse`: but almost just as much bloat :(
[02:52] <snoopy> thanks :D
[02:53] <`mOOse`> yea, and when it first starts up it's at like 100% volume so if you have a good sound system and it's turned on you better hope you have understanding neighbors
[02:53] <lgc> fordgt, I can't manage to create a working link of a directory. The link is created but when trying to cd to Ubuntu One/NEW DIR it comes up with "too many symbolic link levels".
[02:53] <hipitihop> why is bluetooth such a mystery ... where are the configuration settings
[02:53] <snoopy> lemme test and see if it works :D
[02:53] <`mOOse`> there's still bloat there blakkheim but nothing like a regulation install of ubunut
[02:53] <`mOOse`> ubuntu
[02:53] <adudutz> I'm having trouble installing Xubuntu 9.10 (using alternate cd) with GRUB2 in an old Pentium 3 (using slot processor) system (not connected to the net). After the installation, when I rebooted, the GRUB simply drops back to grub rescue. This problem does not present in PCLOS (using GRUB). Is it possible if I replace the default boot loader during installation using GRUB instead of GRUB2?
[02:54] <`mOOse`> adudutz, why are you using the alternative install?
[02:54] <blakkheim> `mOOse`: the iso is basically the same size, it's only a very small reduction in memory/resource usage.
[02:54] <adudutz> PS: this is the display of GRUB2 (if I'm not mistaken) http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m5aa8eba3
[02:54] <`mOOse`> I dunno blakkheim - the install on my hd is a lot smaller it seems
[02:54] <adudutz> I only have the alternate install atm
[02:56] <carbm1> adudutz, At least grub is trying to start by giving you the rescue prompt. I wonder if you boot your alt cd again and select rescue a broken system. One should be to fix grub.... have you tried that?
[02:57] <adudutz> can you give me a guidance of using the rescue mode?
[02:57] <collabra> !grub2 | adudutz
[02:58] <lgc> fordgt, I finally managed to link by changing to Ubuntu one and linking with "ln -s ~/DIR_TO_BE_LINKED". I don't know, however, if it'll do the sync.
[02:58] <fordgt> lgc: you could try it
[02:58] <fordgt> i've never done it b4
[02:58] <`mOOse`> grub gave me real hell when tried to use the alternative cd install - I finally gave up on it
[02:59] <adudutz> ok, I'll see what I can do. Thx for the reply.
[03:00] <drumhed> anyone know how to stop gdm from starting?  i've tried update-rc.d -f gdm remove, but it still launches
[03:00] <blakkheim> drumhed: you could uninstall it
[03:00] <drumhed> lol i guess that would work
[03:01] <Gary20> to transcode a video faster, a better video card is the most important?
[03:01] <blakkheim> Gary20: that's more cpu-intensive than gpu
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> drumhed, "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf  /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled" will work
[03:01] <Gary20> blakkhein: a 200$ CPU would do better than a video card then...?
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> Gary20, typically GPU (graphics card) doesn't have anything to do with transcoding - only CPU
[03:02] <drumhed> hmm i removed gdm from init.d & that didn't work... i'll try your approach, zyko
[03:02] <blakkheim> Gary20: a good cpu is what you need for that task unless the application supports CUDA
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> drumhed, you are on karmic aren't you?
[03:02] <drumhed> too late now.. lol.. sudo apt-get remove gdm seems more my style ;-)
[03:02] <darolu> drumhed: if you can find what Ubuntu uses instead of inittab you just have to tell it to reach init3 only :P
[03:02] <drumhed> zyko - yes
[03:03] <dbdii407> My mouse will move, but will not click anything again
[03:03] <drumhed> sudo init 3 does nothing on this box
[03:03] <dbdii407> How do I fix this?
[03:03] <Gary20> alright. i'm deciding to get a i5 or geforce 9800gtx
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > drumhed
[03:04] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[03:04] <darolu> dbdii407: make sure your mouse is not damaged
[03:05] <dbdii407> Its not
[03:05] <dbdii407> It only does this on linux
[03:05] <drumhed> brb
[03:06] <darolu> dbdii407: can you pastebin the content of your xorg.conf file?
[03:06] <dbdii407> A retart will fix it
[03:06] <dbdii407> Bu I really don't want to
[03:06] <dbdii407> Nope
[03:06] <dbdii407> I cant navagate my screen
[03:06] <abstrakt> ok where the hell did /boot/grub/menu.1st go?
[03:06] <abstrakt> how do I edit the boot list?
[03:06] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, karmic?
[03:07] <abstrakt> is it still grub? is it lilo? i thought it was grub from what i saw of the install process
[03:07] <darolu> abstrakt: are you using Karmic? fresh install?
[03:07] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, yeah karmic
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > abstrakt
[03:07] <abstrakt> fresh install
[03:07] <dbdii407> As I said
[03:07] <dbdii407> The mouse will move
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, it's not there by default
[03:07] <dbdii407> Just won't click
[03:07] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, i see that... so what am i supposed to do?
[03:07] <darolu> abstrakt: karmic uses grub2
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, see the link the bot sent
[03:07] <abstrakt> k so where's the menu file for grub2
[03:07] <h223> how do you find out how many mHz your RAM is?
[03:08] <carbm1> abstrakt, You can customize by adding to /etc/grub.d/40_custom ... or also have a look at /etc/default/grub for kernel commands
[03:08] <darolu> abstrakt: there is no menu.lst file; now it works scripts-based; read the private message the bot sent you
[03:08] <dbdii407> I got my terminal screen open if there's a way to restart USB
[03:08] <carbm1> abstrakt, what are you trying to accomplish?  /etc/default/grub will also let you set a default.
[03:08] <h223> how do you find out how many mHz your RAM is?
[03:09] <blakkheim> h223: sudo lshw -c memory | grep clock
[03:09] <dbdii407> Hello?
[03:09] <h223> is sudo lshw -c memory | grep clock malicious code anyone?
[03:09] <abstrakt> carbm1, yeah i just want to set windows as my default instead of Ubuntu
[03:09] <carbm1> No, its legit.
[03:09] <blakkheim> rofl
[03:09] <carbm1> abstrakt, then in /etc/grub/default is what your looking for.
[03:09] <darolu> h223: no it is legit
[03:09] <abstrakt> and on karmic should I run update-grub2 or just update-grub?
[03:10] <carbm1> abstrakt, update-grub
[03:10] <abstrakt> carbm1, so just sudo vim /etc/grub/default ?
[03:10] <carbm1> abstrakt, I use nano... but whatever you want.
[03:10] <abstrakt> yeah nano is for looserz :P
[03:10] <abstrakt> vim is 4 teh leet
[03:10] <carbm1> abstrakt, Find the full command for you windows by "grep menuentry /etc/grub/grub.cfg" Take everything including the double quotes.
[03:11] <iflema> h223 sudo lshw | grep DIMM
[03:11] <abstrakt> including the double quotes?
[03:11] <darolu> nano is good for common text editing, vim is far larger, you can't compare them
[03:11] <carbm1> abstrakt,  yes, including the double quotes.
[03:12] <carbm1> abstrakt, vim is powerful... I know how to use it.  I believe in KISS though...
[03:12] <abstrakt> lol "vim is for larger" is just... well you must not be very good at vim yet
[03:12] <dbdii407> So im guessing there's no solution to my issue?
[03:12] <abstrakt> meh, i can't live w/out my vim bindings
[03:12] <abstrakt> even small files, i'm practically lost
[03:13] <abstrakt> pita to navigate with arrows and be lacking simple stuff like cw dw etc
[03:13] <darolu> abstrakt: I said FAR larger, meaning is a more powerful program; I also try to KISS like carbml
[03:13] <drumhed> in xubuntu, what process displays the little mouse during init?  i'd like to see just the console and nothing else...
[03:13] <abstrakt> darolu, oh ok so you have a computer with like 512k of RAM i guess :)
[03:13] <abstrakt> there's zero difference in launch speed for me with vim vs. nano
[03:14] <abstrakt> carbm1, and btw for the record there is no such file as /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[03:14] <abstrakt> there's an /etc/grub.d ...
[03:14] <carbm1> abstrakt, typo. /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:16] <carbm1> abstrakt,  wanna be a test subject?  I just finished CRUDELY writing a grub script today.  You can try it and modify it so it puts your Windows at the top of your Grub menu anyways. Are you only dual booting Windows and Ubuntu?
[03:17] <Boy_21_B> hi all
[03:17] <rothsdad> hi
[03:17] <abstrakt> carbm1, yeah i am and thanks but no thanks... i'm just gonna reboot and see if it worked
[03:17] <abstrakt> i think i've got what i need, thx guys
[03:18] <rothsdad> how to scan local network and get their ip?
[03:18] <hyperstream> is the .mp3 format considered NON-FREE?
[03:18] <Boy_21_B> any one know how to change ubuntu login screen to window7 login screen?
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> hyperstream, yes - it's NON-FREE
[03:18] <Boy_21_B> hyperstream?
[03:18] <Hb_Kai> hey, if i wanted to search in a text file for a certain string and then have it print either to the command line or a file, what command would i go about using? i have tried with grep but that only seems to work with lines and i need a certain string in like, hundreds of lines only.
[03:18] <carbm1> rothsdad, I like to use Angry IP Scanner. They make a DEB.  I think nmap an option too.
[03:18] <darolu> hyperstream: mp3 has patents, so it is non-free
[03:19] <ZykoticK9> hyperstream, OGG would be the free version
[03:19] <Boy_21_B> ooo
[03:19] <Boy_21_B> any one know how to change ubuntu login screen to window7 login screen?
[03:19] <hyperstream> ZykoticK9, yeah thats what im using :)
[03:19] <rothsdad> carbm1: thx, i'll have a try
[03:19] <Boy_21_B> any one know how to change ubuntu login screen to window7 login screen?
[03:19] <carbm1> Boy_21_B,  calm down.
[03:19] <Boy_21_B> ok
[03:20] <Boy_21_B> pls2 help
[03:20] <seanamber> how can i get the grub menu to come up when i boot up?  right now it just skips through it
[03:20] <carbm1> Boy_21_B,  Why do you want Ubuntu to look like Windows 7?  Isn't Windows 7 login just like Vista's?
[03:20] <teage> how do i find a file in root, for example "hydra" and not "/hydra"
[03:20] <Boy_21_B> i.m newbie
[03:20] <ZykoticK9> seanamber, you can hold down shift if you just want it once
[03:20] <Boy_21_B> ooo
[03:21] <seanamber> what if i want it all the time?
[03:21] <teage> i can not find the file even when i use the search, anyone?
[03:21] <seanamber> thanks
[03:21] <ZykoticK9> seanamber, don't know
[03:21] <seanamber> thats better than nothing :-)
[03:21] <carbm1> seanamber, check /etc/default/grub   I believe there is a timer in there.
[03:21] <carbm1> seanamber, Thats if your running Karmic.
[03:21] <drumhed> ok i got GDM gone, but now no sound.  what daemons/services have to be running in order for sound to work?
[03:21] <Boy_21_B> any software can change yhis boot screen
[03:21] <Boy_21_B> any software can change this boot screen
[03:22] <carbm1> Boy_21_B, have you googled for this?
[03:22] <darolu> teage: try with "sudo find / hydra"
[03:22] <Boy_21_B> yah
[03:22] <Boy_21_B> i try
[03:22] <carbm1> Boy_21_B,  Hold on... let me look and see waht I can find
[03:22] <tp43> seanamber, you can configure the wait time for boot, right now it is set to 0, cause you probably only have one O/S, but the old way was in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but now I think for grub2 it is menu.cfg, well, just change the 0 to 5secs or sometihng, and then grub-update
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> seanamber, it might be GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub see !grub2 link for more info (i'll send right after)
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > seanamber
[03:23] <teage> darolu: this is wierd because it says no such file or directory, yet i know its installed because i can use it
[03:23] <darolu> Boy_21_B: if you are using Karmic, there is no easy way to change splash and gdm.
[03:23] <Boy_21_B> now my ubuntu interface like win7 but only login screen same like ubuntu before
[03:23] <tp43> drumhed, is it muted, open the alsa-mixer and turn it up.
[03:23] <Boy_21_B> yup
[03:23] <Boy_21_B> karmic
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> Boy_21_B:  thers some windows 7 theme package for ubuntu. but why bother.. good luck.
[03:23] <seanamber> thanks everyone!
[03:23] <darolu> teage: if it is a program, try "ls" at /usr/bin
[03:23] <seanamber> i think /etc/default/grub is the place to look, not grub.cfg
[03:24] <drumhed> tp43 -  the alsamixer gives an error
[03:24] <teage> i will try that darolu
[03:24] <ujkanovic> can some of you help me
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> Boy_21_B:  if you are totally new to linux. it may be better time spent learning linux, then messing with themes
[03:24] <drumhed> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> !ask > ujkanovic
[03:24] <Boy_21_B> roght now i use win2-7 pack
[03:24] <Boy_21_B> right now i use win2-7 pack
[03:25] <drumhed> sound was working before i removed gdm & session manager, which tells me that something needs to be launched in my .xinitrc
[03:25] <tp43> drumhed, no way, whats the error?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> drumhed:  pulse audio perhaps some how
[03:25] <darolu> !patience | Boy_21_B
[03:25] <drumhed> what is pulse?
[03:25] <craigbass1976> Hey all, I just got a new laptop.  It's got an athlon 64 x2.  Am I better off installing 64 but ubuntu?
[03:25] <tp43> drumhed, shit dude you don't have sound, what does dmesg say.  Do you have all of alsa packages installed, or is you sound card have no driver or is it broken?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> !pulse | drumhed
[03:26] <teage> Nope it is not there! uhhh
[03:26] <tp43> craigbass1976, is there a 64 bit smp kernel?
[03:26] <drumhed> tp43 - see above
[03:26] <Boy_21_B> ok obottu
[03:26] <teage> I dont understand where else it would be
[03:26] <craigbass1976> tp43, no idea, I've never farted around with 64 but anything
[03:26] <Boy_21_B> sorry
[03:26] <tp43> craigbass1976, yeah, there is one, just use it
[03:26] <jeeez> is there some image viewer for ubuntu like picasa's viewer in windoze?
[03:26] <darolu> teage: what do you type/do to run your program?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  google has picassa for linux
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> tp43, yes there is an SMP 64bit kernel
[03:27] <tp43> yeah what is this pulse business, I never heard of before on debian
[03:27] <abstrakt> ok so i edited /etc/default/grub and changed GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to GRUB_DEFAULT=4 since windows is my 4th entry but that didn't change the actual default
[03:27] <abstrakt> do i need to run update-grub now or something?
[03:27] <carbm1> jeeez, F-Spot
[03:27] <drumhed> "sudo alsa reload" completes without errors, and I can hear a brief "pop" when the kernel module initializes
[03:27] <abstrakt> oh lol there it is right in the file, duh
[03:27] <abstrakt> guess i do
[03:27] <carbm1> abstrakt, Thats not the correct way to do it.
[03:27] <drumhed> so at a hardware/driver level,  audio is working
[03:27] <tp43> ZykoticK9, is this 64 bit computing better?  I have smp kernel, and dual core system, but when I do cat /proc/cpu there is only one cpu
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> abstrakt:  yes you do.
[03:27] <darolu> abstrakt: yes you need to sudo update-grub
[03:27] <jeeez> Dr_Willis: i get only the picasa album, but all i need it the image viewer, the fancy one.
[03:27] <abstrakt> carbm1, er... ok what's the "correct" way to do it?
[03:27] <teage> darolu: i simply type just the word ---> hydra
[03:27] <drumhed> there has got to be some sort of daemon that isn't getting launched
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> abstrakt:  any changes to grub configs - rereun updategrub
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  No idea on that. I dont use the tools.
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> drumhed:  theres a pulse audio server that needs to run i belive
[03:28] <tp43> drumhed, why did you get rid of session and display managers?
[03:28] <drumhed> i thought xfce4-volumed was all that was required, but launching that didn't help.  also tried launching esd (i use e16 desktop)
[03:28] <teage> darolu: there is no "/" or "." or anything that would give me an idea of where to look.
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> drumhed:  or set your apps to use 'alsa'
[03:28] <abstrakt> carbm1, i'ma go get a beer while i await your response
[03:28] <drumhed> tp43 -  why do olympic swimmers shave their arms?
[03:28] <tp43> jeeez, gimp
[03:28] <teage> darolu: just hydra
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> tp43, typically you "should" be seeing 2 CPUs... don't know why you wouldn't be???  is 64 bit better - hard question, if you have more then 4G of memory i'd say yes for sure, otherwise... really up to you.  I don't have any (err many) issues with 64bit anymore though.
[03:29] <jeeez> tp43: gimp is an image editor.
[03:29] <carbm1> abstrakt, When your Ubuntu updates its kernel its going to add two more entries to the top and Windows isn't going to be your 4th entry anymore.  If you want a permanent solution then grep the grub.cfg for your complete Windows line and put it after GRUB_DEFAULT=.  For example would be GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows XP Home Edition (/dev/sda1)"  Thats an example... your partitions may be different.
[03:29] <darolu> teage: if you did "sudo find / hydra", and didn't find it... I dunno where it can be; if you summon it with "hydra" only it means it is in /usr/bin or other directory in your bash path
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  i always use 64bit on all my 64bit boxs even if they have less then 4gb of ram
[03:29] <tp43> drumhed, why do they wear those tight cloths, that why you should use session and display management.  Put on system monitor, you barely use your ram and cpu probably
[03:30] <darolu> teage: type this: "sudo ls /usr/bin *hydra*"
[03:30] <_Nacho_> hello
[03:30] <tp43> Dr_Willis, oh you are only supposed to use 64 if you have more than 4gig, I don't think it useful otherwise though
[03:30] <carbm1> teage, have you tried locate?  'locate hydra' not sure if its case sensitive.
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  No.. but thats a common need. IF you got more then 4gb ram. then Definatly use 64bit
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  i alwaays use 64bit if the machine suports it
[03:30] <tp43> jeeez, yeah, true, but you can view with it, but there are tons of other viewers, just do apt-cache search, there is pornview for one
[03:31] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I want to make my own sorta 'internal internet' eg. google.com goes to 192.168.1.1 how can I setup a DNS server, etc. in Ubuntu to do that?
[03:31] <dbdii407> Well, I had to restart. No one gave me an answer.
[03:31] <teage> carbm1: yes
[03:31] <darolu> teage: if you can't find it with it; type "echo $PATH" it will print a list of directories, -hydra- must be in one of them.
[03:31] <tp43> Dr_Willis, I think that is the whole point of 64 bit, but I am not knowledge, I am guessing the 64 bit cpu makes it possible to use more than 4gig ram, but who the heck needs so much ram, not me, but maybe some scientist or engineer
[03:31] <abstrakt> carbm1, oh ok cool thanks
[03:32] <HappyHobo1> whassup
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  64bit has better performance then 32bit in other areas as well.
[03:32] <tp43> Dr_Willis, serious, like what?
[03:32] <darolu> paddy_melon: editing /etc/hosts file may work
[03:32] <teage> carbm1: that is another problem i am having, locate hydra and locate shows nothing. but then locate anything shows nothing.
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> tp43, it's easy to use more then 4G of memory if you start running VMs...
[03:33] <carbm1> teage, try "sudo updatedb" and then locate.
[03:33] <zerothis> I'm having trouble with the at command. in a terminal running on the desktop, I typed "a 7:12" then <enter> then "ksnapshot" then <control>+<d>. 7:12 went by & nothing happened.
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  some sites did benchmarks. on some tests 64bit outpreformed 32bit by quite a bit. things thats math intensive mainly
[03:33] <jeeez> how do i uninstall packages i installed from deb files?
[03:33] <tp43> ZykoticK9, you done it before?  Ok, so I have dual boot with Win XP, so I run vmware, and I can load that while in Linux.  I never ever boot Windows anyway, but just for sake of argument
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> jeeez:  with the package manager tools..  synatptic, or the command line tools
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> jeeez, "sudo apt-get remove FOOPACKAGE" from cli
[03:34] <carbm1> jeeez, It should also show in Synaptic for you to uninstall.
[03:34] <abstrakt> carbm1, so that's why you wrote a script to toss windows to the top, so that way it's always 0, even if kernel updates add more entries
[03:34] <abstrakt> carbm1, yes no?
[03:34] <carbm1> abstrakt,  Yes and No.
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> tp43, i have 4G right now and wish i have double or more memory, the system slows to a crawl once i approach filling the 4Gs :(
[03:34] <Happehwalrus> Just installed Amarok, no sound.
[03:34] <tp43> Dr_Willis, One of these days if I get anywhere in life, I am gonna figure out these cluster machine setups and run some major calculations for my contribution to society...actually world domination, lol
[03:35] <abstrakt> i guess then you'd have to re-run said script every time the kernel was updated to keep windows at the top...
[03:35] <carbm1> abstrakt, Actually if I just wanted it to be default I would chagne the GRUB_DEFAULT= line.  What my script does it makes it easier for home users who want to dual boot Windows/Ubuntu.
[03:35] <teage> carbm1: that worked, locate found it now.it is in /home/teage/.local/share/applications/hydra.desktop
[03:35] <paddy_melon> darolu, I want to do it on a lot of computers (the idea is an ad-hoc network) so, I was thinking more like setting up a DNS server
[03:35] <abstrakt> carbm1, er... easier in what sense?
[03:35] <carbm1> abstrakt, update-grub is automatically run anytime there is a kernel upgrade... which automatically processes all scripts too.
[03:36] <jeeez> Dr_Willis, ZykoticK9, carbm1: worked, thanks!
[03:36] <tp43> ZykoticK9, omg, what do you fill it with?  On my system, I have dual core 1.8, and 1.5 gig ram, and I never see the ram go past 50%, but the cpu is always spike to 100%, I have gnome, compiz and cairo-dock, Firefox use a lot of cpu
[03:36] <tp43> ZykoticK9, X and firefox use a lot I noticed from top
[03:36] <paddy_melon> Hey guys, I want to make my own sorta 'internal internet' eg. google.com goes to 192.168.1.1 how can I setup a DNS server, etc. in Ubuntu to do that?
[03:36] <carbm1> abstrakt, http://www.carbm1.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/grub2.jpg
[03:36] <teage> thank you darlou thank you carbm1 for you help, much appreciated.
[03:36] <Happehwalrus> tp43: CairoDock? TBH I like AWN better.
[03:37] <abstrakt> ahh, a simplifier for the noobiots :)
[03:37] <abstrakt> cool
[03:37] <tp43> Happehwalrus, you do, cairo is much better though, awn has a nice look, but cairo works better
[03:37] <darolu> paddy_melon: give this links a try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[03:37] <abstrakt> aight, going with the full quoted string, if it works... i won't bbl :)
[03:37] <paddy_melon> ok thanks darolu
[03:37] <tp43> Happehwalrus, And I am pretty sure it has more features
[03:37] <carbm1> abstrakt, Yes... a great way to promote Ubuntu is to make it simplier.  I install it on every computer I work on.
[03:37] <abstrakt> maybe tomorrow, peace
[03:37] <iflema> Hb_Kai  find [directory] -type f -exec grep -i "[search string]" {} \; | cat > [file location/name] thats overkill, thatll find it if you dont know the location... just a word, and print lines containing the word to a file
[03:37] <Happehwalrus> tp43: I first used Cairo, too buggy and takes up too much space.
[03:38] <Happehwalrus> In my opinion.
[03:38] <tp43> carbm1, I love installing Linux, I could just sit in a room all day installing
[03:38] <abstrakt> er, update-grub asks if i want to create a menu.1st
[03:38] <abstrakt> i'm guessing i should select no?
[03:38] <Happehwalrus> Too much space as in on my moniter.
[03:38] <Hb_Kai> iflema: sweet. thank you
[03:38] <carbm1> abstrakt, are you running grub-legacy?
[03:39] <abstrakt> don't think so
[03:39] <tp43> Happehwalrus, you can configure, those bugs are caused by one or two launchers, just remove them and get another.  One thing though, the cause gnome menu is nicer.  But I notice the reverse, cairo works much better than awn for me
[03:39] <abstrakt> it's 9.10
[03:39] <abstrakt> default install, for the most part
[03:39] <abstrakt> with the only exception being some packages from synaptic like my lamp stack and the nVidia drivers
[03:39] <tp43> abstrakt, of you wanna create menu, that is what grub-update is for
[03:40] <tp43> abstrakt, but I thought it was menu.cfg now, cause I can't find menu.lst on my system
[03:40] <carbm1> abstrakt,  can you pastebin what its saying?
[03:40] <abstrakt> compiz sucks down the resources like mad
[03:40] <tp43> abstrakt, its ok for me
[03:40] <abstrakt> no need for pastebin: Could not find /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Would you like /boot/grub/menu.lst generated for you? (y/N)
[03:41] <tp43> abstrakt, yes
[03:41] <abstrakt> that's the last thing that happened after running sudo update-grub
[03:41] <drumhed> hrrm..  alsamixer will run as root, but not as user.  anybody know the /dev that I need to chmod?
[03:41] <carbm1> abstrakt, I dont' have that file either. Let it create it and see what happens.
[03:41] <Evet> how to run a process as a daemon (running background) ?
[03:41] <tp43> abstrakt, omg, isnt' creating menu.lst the whole point of grub-update, what else does it do, nothing as far as I knew
[03:42] <tp43> Evet, are you running on command line?  You can program in background with &
[03:42] <abstrakt> tp43, well first off it's update-grub
[03:42] <tp43> Evet, like $tpb &
[03:42] <abstrakt> which me thinks probably makes a fairly major difference
[03:42] <tp43> abstrakt, hmm, I guess they changed that too
[03:42] <Evet> tp43, command line. i want run an init script in background
[03:42] <tp43> Evet, nope, I am not in your league, good luck
[03:42] <abstrakt> secondly /etc/default/grub says to run update-grub after editing the file
[03:42] <lgc> I can't get Ubuntu One on my machine to sync. Help?
[03:42] <carbm1> update-grub basically calls grub-mkconfig and then dumps the str output to grub.cfg
[03:43] <abstrakt> tp43, i'm on karmic, so if you're not talking about karmic then thanks but you can help someone else, seems things are diff on karmic, i.e. grub2
[03:43] <Evet> tp43, you are. & is what i need, thanks :)
[03:43] <tp43> abstrakt, yeah, you make changes, and then you run update-grub to make those changes take affect
[03:43] <tp43> abstrakt, ok
[03:43] <abstrakt> carbm1, k well i'm not gonna create menu.1st then if this doesn't work, maybe i'll create menu.1st
[03:44] <carbm1> geez he burns me... awful smart for not being able to figure that out.
[03:44] <darolu> lol
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> lgc, you might want to try asking in #ubuntuone
[03:44] <lgc> ZykoticK9, oh thanks!
[03:45] <tp43> what about inkscape, why am I banned?
[03:45] <carbm1> Actually, I need somebody to try this grub script with Vista or Windows 7... anybody dual booting and willing to try it?  Shouldn't hurt anything and is easily removed.  I just don't have Vista or Windows 7... It works with my XP dual boots.
[03:46] <darolu> sorry I don't have vista nor win7, otherwise I'd be glad to give it a try
[03:48] <tp43> these frigin inkscape guys are not online here anymore, you have to go through grabber or something like that
[03:48] <carbm1> darolu, thanks anyways!
[03:49] <darolu> carbml: if it works with winxp, it should work with anything else though; I don't believe grub cares what OS it is loading
[03:49] <carbm1> darolu, Its not that simple....
[03:50] <Tohsh> Can anyone assist me in assigning a specific user a failover IP on my server?
[03:50] <null_space> exit
[03:50] <carbm1> darolu, Its a script that pulls the os-prober part out of grub.cfg and pulls the first entry.... Hopefully it works... but I don't know because Vista/7 bootloader is a little different.
[03:50] <Happehwalrus> Just installed Amarok, whenever I play a song there's no audio at all. Help?
[03:51] <carbm1> Tohsh, I don't understand your question.
[03:51] <darolu> carml: sorry I can't help; I actually have never used Vista to be honest
[03:51] <carbm1> Tohsh, failover ip for what?
[03:51] <Tohsh> my server has 1 main IP and 3 failovers. I want to assign a failover IP to say user, pirate, through iptables.
[03:51] <Tohsh> so all his traffic goes through that IP
[03:51] <EntityReborn> Heya
[03:52] <genii> Tohsh: Perhaps enquire in #ubuntu-server
[03:52] <Tohsh> thanks
[03:52] <carbm1> Tohsh, I don't know if thats possible. I've never heard of it.  IP routes would be system based.....
[03:53] <abstrakt> carbm1, ok so neither of those things worked
[03:54] <abstrakt> i changed it to 4, didn't run update-grub, then i changed it to the quoted string, ran update-grub, and also changed it back to 4 and then again ran update-grub
[03:55] <abstrakt> !grub
[03:56] <abstrakt> !grub2
[03:56] <Tohsh> Can anyone assist me in assigning a users traffic to go through a certain IP address through iptables?
[03:56] <carbm1> Tohsh, I don't know if thats possible. I've never heard of it.  IP routes would be system based.....   The only thing I can think of is a proxy of some sort for that user.
[03:56] <Tohsh> I had it setup before
[03:56] <Tohsh> I can't find the google page now heh
[03:57] <Tohsh> should have saved it
[03:57] <carbm1> Tohsh, If you find it I would love to see what its doing. I've never had a request for something like that so I've never heard of it.
[03:57] <Tohsh> ill make sure to post it if I find it
[03:58] <carbm1> abstrakt, can you please tell me what version of grub you have installed? "dpkg -l | grep grub"
[04:00] <abstrakt> carbm1, 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1
[04:00] <carbm1> abstrakt, any funky messages (outside of the LONG output) from "sudo grub-mkconfig"
[04:00] <tp43> who owns Ubuntu?
[04:01] <scunizi> tp43: everyone.. you can help make it better too!
[04:01] <darolu> tp43: anyone with a copy of it...?
[04:01] <abstrakt> carbm1, nah just looks like a grub.cnf file spit to stdout
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> tp43, Canonical
[04:01] <carbm1> tp43, canonical probably owns the name.
[04:01] <tp43> well it is ubuntu.com not ubuntu.org like the other opensource software.  Ubuntu site says they are commercial
[04:02] <Tohsh> carbm1, here is what I recall about the command, but something in it right now is erronous "-A FORDWARD -m owner --uid-owner <username> -j SNAT --to-source <ipaddress>"
[04:02] <tp43> Yeah who is that Canonical, I never heard of them before
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> tp43, see http://www.canonical.com/
[04:02] <scunizi> tp43: like redhat.. they have commercial support
[04:02] <tp43> ZykoticK9, ok, let me see what they saying, I think I browsed it once before
[04:02] <carbm1> Tohsh, I had no ideal iptables went as far as UID's... .thats amazing.
[04:03] <RogerKlotz> hey all, im having a bit of trouble setting up sshfs on my ubuntu server. i have ssh working but when i go to mount the directory it says something along the lines of 'disconnected by host'. does sshfs know what port to use based off of ssh? and do I need to set up the directories in some file?
[04:03] <darolu> tp43: The Ubuntu name is a trademark of Canonical; it is a .com because they also sell merchandise (t-shirts, keyrings, etc..) and commercial support. Read about Canonical and its founder on Wikipedia; it's a cool story =)
[04:03] <Tohsh> carbm1, just dont know how to fix it heh
[04:04] <tp43> darolu, ok, thanks, I will check it out, brb
[04:04] <RogerKlotz> im used to fedora where i can find a config file and tell it to only sshfs certain directories. anything like this in ubuntu
[04:05] <abstrakt> so lame... this should have worked, wtf is up with this?
[04:06] <armence> Hey all, I can't get my sound to work, can anyone help me out?
[04:06] <tottiq> armence
[04:06] <carbm1> abstrakt, Will you please pastebin your update-grub output....   and "ls -l /etc/grub.d/"
[04:07] <abstrakt> yeah in a minute, brb
[04:07] <armence> tottiq, Yes?
[04:07] <tp43> Mark Shuttleworth is the owner
[04:08] <tottiq> can you tell me your sound card or pc specs?
[04:08] <seanbrystone> he wont be CEO for long
[04:08] <RogerKlotz> sooo nobody here runs sshfs on ubuntu? better tech??
[04:08] <RogerKlotz> dont tell me samba is my only real option...
[04:09] <carbm1> I do use sshfs... but I don't know how to achieve what your talking about.
[04:10] <scunizi> RogerKlotz: if you can't get an answer here a couple places to try are #ubuntu-server and #linux
[04:10] <carbm1> RogerKlotz, What do you mean only share certain folders? Are you talking about a chroot?
[04:11] <DuckDrogers> so nobody can help me with my sshfs problem? got disconnected...
[04:11] <carbm1> DuckDrogers, , What do you mean only share certain folders? Are you talking about a chroot?
[04:11] <scunizi> Flannel: ping
[04:11] <tp43> Mark Shuttleworth is the owner, he went to space for real, he is second person to fund his own spcae mission in the world.  Lol, its not just his name, he did
[04:11] <DuckDrogers> i want to only make specific directories available over sshfs
[04:12] <Flannel> scunizi: What's up?
[04:12] <DuckDrogers> if thats not possible id be fine with sharing my whole root directory
[04:12] <darolu> tp43: I told you it was a cool story... just remember this is not a chat-channel
[04:12] <abstrakt> carbm1, http://pastebin.ca/1795024
[04:12] <scunizi> Flannel: I'm logged into the calif channel but can't seem to post.. do you see anthing by me there?
[04:12] <Flannel> tp43: Mind taking this discussin to #ubuntu-offtopic?  This channel is for support, not conversations/discussions, Thanks!
[04:12] <scunizi> Flannel: maybe it's just lag
[04:12] <Flannel> scunizi: Yeah.  Three.
[04:13] <scunizi> Flannel: weird.. I can only see 2 but the irssi window shows "more" but I can't PgDwn
[04:13] <Flannel> scunizi: try alt-n
[04:13] <scunizi> k
[04:14] <DuckDrogers> hmm when i try to 'sudo modprobe fuse' i get 'FATAL: module fuse not found' yet i have sshfs and fuse-utils installed??
[04:14] <scunizi> Flannel: it's not auto scrolling the channel.. and even after posting and alt n .. nothing shows for 20 secs.
[04:15] <Flannel> scunizi: Does the more go away, and then come back?  (You're just not autoscrolling?)
[04:15] <scunizi> Flannel: yep.. I have 3 windows open on the screen currently.. #ubuntu #kubuntu & #ubuntu-california
[04:16] <Flannel> scunizi: /set scroll ON (then scroll to the bottom of the window)
[04:16] <scunizi> Flannel: sometimes it says "more" and I can't alt n or pgDwn.. to see
[04:17] <Flannel> scunizi: That's odd indeed
[04:17] <scunizi> Flannel: I'll hide all channels but one and switch between them..
[04:17] <Flannel> scunizi: Is it just the LoCo channel that you're having trouble with?
[04:17] <scunizi> Flannel: yes
[04:17] <Tohsh> carbm1, iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -m owner --uid-owner [USERNAME] -j SNAT --to-source [IP ADDRESS]
[04:18] <Tohsh> will forward specified users interface through the failover IP specified
[04:18] <carbm1> Tohsh, Thanks! I'm writing that one down!
[04:19] <Tohsh> same haha
[04:23] <abstrakt> carbm1, soooo, any thoughts on that pastebin you asked for? http://pastebin.ca/1795024
[04:23] <converge> there is no jude(astah) on ubuntu repository ?
[04:23] <carbm1> abstrakt, Is this a karmic upgrade?
[04:23] <abstrakt> nope, fresh install
[04:25] <carbm1> abstrakt, try "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and select all the default.s
[04:25] <abstrakt> whoa, wtf... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed
[04:26] <abstrakt> that's srsly lame... ubuntu can't get the freakin bootloader right on a fresh install?
[04:26] <carbm1> abstrakt, user error?
[04:26] <abstrakt> er, what user error, it's a fresh install
[04:26] <scunizi> abstrakt: if you have more than one HD installed sometimes it doesn't get it right
[04:27] <abstrakt> i have a single HD
[04:27] <isgo> I was having trouble connecting and found a page that had instructions to add a line of code to / etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  code: #prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220"  what does this do exactly and do I want those specific dns or some specific to my location? ubuntu 9.10 on dell vostro
[04:27] <abstrakt> partitioned into two chunks
[04:28] <carbm1> abstrakt, "apt-get install -f"?
[04:28] <scunizi> abstrakt: should actually be 3 if you include the swap partition
[04:29] <abstrakt> scunizi, k yeah whatever, i split it into two basic chunks at first with the windows installer, and yeah of course there are a multiple *nix partits if you include swap etc
[04:29] <abstrakt> carbm1, you mean apt-get install -f grub-pc ?
[04:29] <carbm1> abstrakt, no... The other should try to fix anything that might be broken.
[04:30] <abstrakt> oh crap, well i just ran apt-get install -f grub-pc
[04:30] <carbm1> abstrakt, it should be ok.... but the other would include everything.
[04:30] <hajmola> is there a way I can disable window decoration for one specific program?
[04:32] <carbm1> abstrakt, if that doens't work... try "apt-get install grub-pc --reinstall"
[04:32] <ujkanovic> i need help
[04:32] <ujkanovic> test1@aalms:/tmp/.zuko/.flegma$ passwd
[04:32] <ujkanovic> Current Kerberos password:
[04:32] <ujkanovic> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[04:32] <ujkanovic> passwd: password unchanged
[04:32] <FloodBot2> ujkanovic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <armence> Hey all, I can't get my sound to work, can anyone help me out?
[04:33] <sudobash> hey how can i disable SMART monitoring so it doesnt pop up those alerts at the startup about bad sectors on my HDD
[04:33] <sudobash> ?
[04:34] <ujkanovic> tray to search on ubuntu web for help
[04:34] <carbm1> sudobash, Thats under System > Administration > Disk Utility I believe.
[04:34] <sirspyr0> hello everyone
[04:35] <sirspyr0> looking for some information about updating kernels
[04:35] <carbm1> sudobash, Click on the drive. Click on More Information. Then check the box that says "Don't warn me if this disk is failing"
[04:35] <Sh3r1ff_> sudobash: don't you want to detect bad sectors in your hd?
[04:35] <sudobash> not this time
[04:36] <hajmola> armence, describe your sound problems
[04:36] <carbm1> Sh3r1ff_, The only reason I know this is because I ran a zero write and a full diag with manufactures diags with no errors but Ubuntu kept flagging it.....  No problems from that hard drive again.  I guess once SMART is triggered theres no going back.
[04:36] <abstrakt_> carbm1, aight so apparently apt-get install -f grub-pc fixed my issue(s)
[04:36] <abstrakt_> cuz now the default works as it should
[04:37] <armence> hajmola: I have no sound at all whether I play a music file or a YouTube video or anything
[04:37] <abstrakt_> i'm back in windows but i'd figured i'd toss you a holler and let you know that it worked... thanks... peace
[04:37] <carbm1> abstrakt_, Your welcome.  Now, go get another beer.
[04:37] <abstrakt_> heh, good idea :)
[04:37] <ujkanovic> i need help
[04:37] <ujkanovic> some one help me
[04:37] <ujkanovic> test1@aalms:/tmp/.zuko/.flegma$ passwd
[04:37] <ujkanovic> Current Kerberos password:
[04:37] <ujkanovic> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[04:37] <ujkanovic> passwd: password unchanged
[04:37] <FloodBot2> ujkanovic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <carbm1> ujkanovic, What are you trying to do?
[04:38] <cvd_>  updates,updates and more updates, eveerytime i log-on ubuntu
[04:38] <hajmola> armence, have you looked through alsamixer? (in terminal type in alsamixer), there you can see if your levels are down
[04:38] <keepsake> Does anyone know how to associate the slider in volume control with Master instead of PCM? I've done this before but forgot how I did it and where i found that information.
[04:38] <sirspyr0> updates r good
[04:38] <ujkanovic> change my password
[04:38] <armence> hajmola: I have
[04:38] <WaterRatj> Anyone know how to uninstall grub from a external hdd?
[04:38] <carbm1> ujkanovic, why are you in the temp folder?
[04:38] <sirspyr0> ujkanovic: have you tried changing it in user settings?
[04:38] <hajmola> armence, sorry... i'm not that knowledgeable on sound....
[04:39] <armence> hajmola, :(
[04:39] <ujkanovic> how i dont now how
[04:39] <hajmola> armence, keep asking every once in a while, someone will help
[04:39] <sirspyr0> system>administration>users and groups
[04:39] <armence> anyone else can help me with sound?
[04:39] <carbm1> cvd_, I don't like the update manager either. Under System > Administration > Software Sources.  Hit Updates tab, then check "Install security updates without confirmation". Hasn't bothered me since.
[04:39] <hajmola> anyone know how to define a specific program to NOT have window decorations in compiz config??
[04:39] <stevecam> armence, what seems to be the p;roblem?
[04:40] <Nizy> personally I just turn off auto update and update manually
[04:40] <armence> stevecam: Well, no sound occurs ever... Whether I'm playing a sound file, a youtube video etc...
[04:40] <duckwars> how can I start a desktop through ssh?  my client is an os x computer and the server is the ubuntu computer
[04:40] <soreau> hajmola: ccsm>Window Decoration>Decorate Windows IIRC
[04:40] <sirspyr0> ujkanovic: is that working for you?
[04:41] <stevecam> armence, this may sound stupid but have you tried checking your volume in alsamixer? every time a kernel updates the sounds are reset to mute
[04:41] <soreau> hajmola: It is set to any by default, but you can use the + button then the Grab button and click on the window you want not to have decorations, then enabled Invert
[04:41] <carbm1> duckwars, 'invoke-rcd gdm start" ?
[04:41] <duckwars> lemme try
[04:41] <armence> stevecam: It does not sound stupid, but I already did that
[04:41] <hajmola> soreau, thanks!
[04:41] <carbm1> duckwars, ... errr... that would start the GUI on the server though.
[04:41] <keepsake> Does anyone know how to associate the slider in volume control with Master instead of PCM? I've done this before but forgot how I did it and where i found that information.
[04:42] <darolu> armence: make sure the apropriate channel is enabled, for example, if you have analog speakers, make sure the analog plug is not muted.
[04:42] <duckwars> it has something to do with -x i know that.. but I'm not exactly sure
[04:42] <cvd_> the recomended are not necesary, so i can ignore theM
[04:42] <cvd_> ?
[04:42] <armence> darolu: How do I do that?
[04:42] <carbm1> duckwars,  ... oh yes. "ssh user@host -X"
[04:42] <darolu> armence: the easy way is to right click the sound icon (top-right of screen) and open sound preferences
[04:43] <carbm1> duckwars, has to be a capitol X
[04:43] <keepsake> Actually, is there a way to change what the default volume slider controls?
[04:43] <duckwars> it doens't actually open a desktop though...
[04:43] <darolu> armence: depending on your sound card, options change, but you shouldn't have problems navigating
[04:43] <stevecam> keepsake, i would like to know how to stop that too
[04:43] <duckwars> like how can I open a certain program through X using ssh?
[04:43] <carbm1> duckwars, Are you wanting nautilus?  I know FreeNX is also another solution and its tunneled through SSH.
[04:44] <stevecam> keeps on screwing around with volumes i dont want controlled
[04:44] <keepsake> stevecam: AFAIK there is a way to do it, and i've done it before. It takes editing some config file that I can no longer remember =\
[04:44] <darolu> armence: if you can't fix it from there, run "alsamixer" in a command line terminal
[04:44] <sirspyr0> does anyone know how to update the kernel from 2.6.19 to 2.6.26
[04:44] <duckwars> nautilus sounds promising
[04:44] <phpmonk> what mean running program surreptitiously?
[04:44] <soreau> duckwars: You can set the DISPLAY env var to open it on the machine you're ssh'd into
[04:44] <carbm1> duckwars, ssh carbm1@host -X 'xcalc'
[04:44] <sirspyr0> or know a work around to allow broadcom b43 to allow injections
[04:45] <armence> darolu: I played around with the settings and now it works
[04:45] <armence> thanks
[04:45] <Happehwalrus> http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2005-04-29-burrito_x.htm
[04:45] <Happehwalrus> oops
[04:45] <darolu> armence: np, I'm glad it worked.
[04:45] <Happehwalrus> wrong window
[04:45] <stevecam> armence, i have a problem with my audio on my notebook, alsa keeps on going to a dummy device, it is so annoying cas i cant find out why it is loading the dummy drivers
[04:45] <FloodBot2> Happehwalrus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <stevecam> keepsake, if you find out let me know :-)\
[04:45] <armence> stevecam: I see
[04:46] <scp1> Is there a live stream of the OS 2010?
[04:46] <carbm1> sirspyr0, I just read this yesterday. Might be a starting point... http://tinyurl.com/yhlcsjn
[04:46] <sirspyr0> tyvm checking it out now
[04:46] <keepsake> stevecam: I'm looking for that old article I used when I had terrible sound quality in karmic =P
[04:46] <duckwars> aghhhh
[04:46] <duckwars> not working........
[04:47] <carbm1> duckwars, ?
[04:47] <scp1> Ok, thanks
[04:47] <stevecam> armence, i found that out with the pulseaudio config tool, it may be able to show you some information that might help you solve your problem
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, did you say your using a Mac?  if so do you have xorg installed on your mac?
[04:47] <duckwars> someone in here once was helping me with another problem and gave me a command to open a single window in -X, it was just a control panel type window, but he was able to give me a command to open just that window... I can't describe
[04:47] <duckwars> xorg? I was using x11
[04:47] <stevecam> pulseaudio device chooser
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, same difference actually
[04:48] <armence> stevecam: Oh, I appreciate, but darolu helped me and I got the sound to work
[04:48] <carbm1> duckwars, ssh carbm1@host -X 'xcalc'  ... This would open the Calculator.
[04:48] <duckwars> oh yes, i'm doing this through X11
[04:48] <duckwars> ohhhhh
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, try using "ssh -Y user@server" then when you login try running xcalc
[04:48] <sirspyr0> carbm1: seems useful but can i use deb files on ubuntu? fairly new to ubuntu, dont want to screw it up
[04:48] <duckwars> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[04:48] <duckwars> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[04:48] <carbm1> sirspyr0, Ubuntu is debian based. Yes Deb files is what it uses.
[04:48] <dm_> What are some Xchat alternatives? (gtk)
[04:49] <sirspyr0> ahh
[04:49] <sirspyr0> sweet
[04:49] <stevecam> armence, what did darolu do?
[04:49] <sirspyr0> im going to go try that out
[04:49] <carbm1> sirspyr0, That article was written for Ubuntu and LinuxMint.
[04:49] <sirspyr0> ahhh
[04:49] <sirspyr0> hehe
[04:49] <FloodBot2> sirspyr0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <duckwars> zykotick9: didn't work
[04:49] <sirspyr0> i be back
[04:49] <sirspyr0> ty again
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, sorry no other suggestions... good luck.
[04:49] <carbm1> duckwars,  I wonder if X11 forwarding is disabled on the server?
[04:50] <duckwars> d
[04:50] <ledoktre> hello everyone!
[04:50] <duckwars> this is generally the error i get
[04:50] <armence> stevecam: Sound preferences, I fiddled with the output connector
[04:50] <duckwars>    /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/paul/.Xauthority
[04:50] <stevecam> hmm, ok
[04:51] <stevecam> i cant seem to get my sound working, it used to work but now pulseaudio just doesnt see hardware
[04:51] <isgo> trying to download and install wireless card driver
[04:51] <isgo> :could not get lock--?
[04:51] <sirspyr0> hello again, dumb question, but ...
[04:52] <drumhed> dang... no BitchX package on apt.
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, you "MIGHT" want to try "mv ~/.Xauthority ~.Xauthority.backup && touch ~/.Xauthority" and try again
[04:52] <carbm1> duckwars, delete the file and try again.
[04:52] <drumhed> seems all the cool oldschool stuff is dying
[04:52] <carbm1> ZykoticK9, beat me to it.
[04:52] <sirspyr0> it turns out i have 2.6.31, will a driver patch made for kernel 2.6.26 work on 2.6.31?
[04:52] <duckwars> do this on the server?
[04:52] <carbm1> duckwars, yes.
[04:53] <carbm1> duckwars, ...wait... actually I don't know that for sure.
[04:53] <carbm1> at least I'm honest.
[04:53] <ledoktre> If anyone has any suggestions, I am trying to upgrade ALSA on my Hardy box (1.0.16 to 1.0.20) following a tutorial, but afterwords, the version stays at 1.0.16.  Anyone heard of this, or know what I might be doing wrong?
[04:53] <duckwars> carbm1: this might do something harmful to my compute?
[04:53] <carbm1> Just move the file so you can put it back if you need to. It shouldn't be a critical file.
[04:54] <keepsake> Does anyone know how to make the volume slider not force PCM to 100%?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, that's why i suggested mv the file instead of deleting it
[04:54] <phpmonk> is hidden processos is possible on Linux/Unix?
[04:54] <duckwars> ok, let me try doing this
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, /home/paul/.Xauthority is that on the server you've SSHed into?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> .Xauthority is some sort of security/lock file for permission to access the X server I recall.
[04:55] <carbm1> phpmonk, Like hidden windows or background tasks?
[04:55] <sirspyr0> or if i try it can i restore the old one?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> phpmonk:  more common would be to use some common name for a process to hide it
[04:55] <phpmonk> carbm1, hidden process, not just bg task
[04:55] <v3rr3z> Hey all, I am trying to share a folder but i get a error message that says, Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)...Whats the solution?
[04:55] <robert__> if i'm using lucid alpha can i still use karmic repos for gyachi?
[04:55] <carbm1> phpmonk, Like a rootkit?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> phpmonk:  ive never heard of it being done. but ive not paid much attention to that stuff
[04:56] <bazhang> robert__, no
[04:56] <phpmonk> yes like rootkit
[04:56] <drumhed> v3rr3z ..sounds like permissions failure
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  try installont the samba package
[04:56] <bazhang> robert__, #ubuntu+1 for lucid issues
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !find testparm
[04:56] <robert__> oh well, i'll keep +1 anyways, its more stable
[04:56] <carbm1> phpmonk, My understanding is that Yes a rootkit can exist in Linux.  Dont' ask me how... Just my general reading knowledge.
[04:56] <duckwars> ZykoticK9: server
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> testparm is a samba tool to verify the samba config is correct.
[04:56] <carbm1> phpmonk, But they are few and far between.
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, ya that makes sense, so just move the file to another name then touch the origional filename
[04:57] <phpmonk> carbm1, oh okay, I was just curious how one can hide PID?
[04:57] <titan_ark> hey has anyone used icarus?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  'sudo apt-get install samba'   and see if
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> it helps
[04:57] <robert__> whats icarus?
[04:57] <carbm1> phpmonk, if its part of the kernel.... it wouldn't have a PID.
[04:58] <phpmonk> carbm1, yes yes yes, i got it. .ko modules, oh my god
[04:58] <titan_ark> robert__, its a verliog compiler
[04:58] <duckwars> zykoticK9: I did that, now how should I ssh in? ssh -Y NAME@SERVER ?
[04:58] <phpmonk> carbm1, thanks a lot
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, start by trying "ssh -X name@server" if that fails then try with -Y
[04:59] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I see what is bound to 127.0.0.1:8080?
[04:59] <duckwars> okay, I do that, it seems to work
[04:59] <duckwars> but I get no gui stuff
[05:00] <robert__> are there any transparent themes that won't slow me down?
[05:00] <carbm1> duckwars, now you can run gui programs from command line.
[05:00] <duckwars> like just type xcalc?
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> Mike_lifeguard, try "sudo netstat -ltnp" or "lsof -i" and see if either tell you
[05:00] <greezmunkey> Mike_lifeguard, try iterations of the netstat command
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> If duckwars  has a proper x server setup :)
[05:00] <duckwars> oh wow, it worked
[05:00] <carbm1> true.
[05:00] <duckwars> but how do I bring up the gernal desktop and not a specific program?
[05:00] <carbm1> tada... magic voodoo
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> XMING on windows  is handy + putty.
[05:00] <carbm1> try nautilus
[05:01] <carbm1> Dr_Willis, agreed!
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  you proberly dont wan tto do a 'full' desktop that way
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> it will run tons of stuff you proberly dont need
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> and the same user running gnome more then once.. can cause issues
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, i'd imagine the easiest way to do that would be to setup a VNC server on the machine, then you can SSH and graphically start a VNC client (one option anyway)
[05:01] <duckwars> wow, it just went crazy
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  what os's are you using?
[05:02] <duckwars> 9.04 on the server
[05:02] <duckwars> I remember, once someone gave me a command that worked really well and kind of superimposed a second desktop on my mac
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  You can start a second x session i recall.. bt that will be slow.
[05:03] <robert__> on my last computer albatross theme was a good black but on this new one its like charcoal
[05:03] <duckwars> hmm...
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> greezmunkey, ZykoticK9: Great, thanks. I see the port is in CLOSE_WAIT, not sure how to kill whatever isn't closing it...
[05:03] <bazhang> robert__, are you using karmic?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Theres the new themes thats proposed for the Next release thats getting popular. :)
[05:03] <phpmonk> carbm1, i doubt all my mails copy going somewhere else too, should i recompile kernel to remove any possible rouge mods?
[05:03] <robert__> bazhang, lucid
[05:03] <robert__> but the same theme
[05:03] <bazhang> robert__, this is not the support channel for lucid.
[05:03] <robert__> are there any transparent themes that won't slow me down?
[05:04] <stevecam> yay, i found out how to fix my audio :-)
[05:04] <duckwars> is there a good program for video conversion on ubuntu, to make h.263 files?
[05:04] <bazhang> robert__, as I said before it is in #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <stevecam> sudo alsa force-reload
[05:04] <robert__> ok
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> winff,avidumux, handbrake, or the cli tools those use duckwars
[05:04] <robert__> are there any transparent themes that won't slow me down?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, check out Handbrake (it runs on mac too)
[05:04] <coz_> robert__,   I am not aware of any off hand
[05:04] <drumhed> robert - what window manager do you use?
[05:04] <keepsake> stevecam: I might have solved the problem
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> if a pc is being slowed down by the theme...well....
[05:05] <duckwars> i think handbrake turns DVDs into vdeo files, what about converting video file to another format, like h.264
[05:05] <keepsake> stevecam: Restarting to check, I'll be right back
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  it can do that ane more
[05:05] <duckwars> ahhhh, ok ok ok, thanks!
[05:05] <coz_> robert__,  unless of course you are using compiz with emerald
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> time to read up on the progs we mentioned.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Is emerald even in  the next release?
[05:05] <duckwars> sudo-apt get install handbrake doesn't work
[05:05] <robert__> coz_, i don't use compiz lol
[05:05] <duckwars> err
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  its not in the default repos
[05:05] <duckwars> apt-get install
[05:06] <stevecam> compiz is fun
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> duckwars, handbrake.fr has a DEB to download
[05:06] <robert__> isn't handbrake for mac?
[05:06] <carbm1> phpmonk, What makes you think you have a rootkit?
[05:06] <coz_> robert__,  well then probably not  unless murrine has implimentd  transparency
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  and linux
[05:06] <stevecam> its a fun way to waste system resources
[05:06] <duckwars> =(
[05:06] <robert__> ah ok
[05:07] <q0k> Hi. I've got a single partition with Windows XP. I want to split the disk into two partitions: one for Windows XP, one for Ubuntu. I right-click "my computer", choose "manage", "disk management"... Then I should right-click the free space on the disk, and see the "new partition" command in the menu.
[05:07] <coz_> robert__,  if you are using gnome  then google  gnome transparent themes if you havent already
[05:07] <greezmunkey> Mike_lifeguard, This may help...https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4356
[05:07] <coz_> robert__,  or gtk2 transparent themes
[05:07] <q0k> But I don't see any diagram with free / occupied space there... What should I do?
[05:07] <carbm1> q0k, You should do that from the ubuntu Live disk.
[05:07] <phpmonk> carbm1, all my quotations being compete very closely now. I have strong doubt of rootkit
[05:07] <robert__> coz_, i'm using xfce
[05:07] <keepsake> stevecam: Are you still there? =D
[05:07] <coz_> robert__,  well i believe xfce also used gtk2 themes
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> q0k:  im not sure xp has tools to resize disk partions.. IF you have a section of hd thats 'unallocated' the ubuntu intstaller can use/partion it as needed
[05:08] <q0k> carbm1, Microsoft Help says it's possible to do from "Disk Management", but I'll break my leg while trying to find how... I need your help.
[05:08] <robert__> coz_, doesn't gtk2 use more memory?
[05:08] <stevecam> keepsake, yes
[05:08] <coz_> robert__,    http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2007/12/gnome-theme-engine-designer-adds-transparency-to-gtk.ars
[05:08] <Mike_lifeguard> greezmunkey: yeah, I found that already - not very helpful :\
[05:08] <stevecam> keepsake, :-)
[05:08] <stevecam> good news?
[05:08] <carbm1> q0k, Only if its a Dynamic Drive... Don't mess with that kind of crap though.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> q0k:  thers the #windows channel.. and as far as i know that feature is in Vista  and higher. not XP
[05:08] <coz_> robert__,    http://www.breakitdownblog.com/gnome-murrine-theme-gets-transparent-widgets/
[05:08] <q0k> I haven't seen "sections" on my HD
[05:09] <keepsake> stevecam: I've found a way to make volume slider and buttons change master instead of PCM. =D
[05:09] <Mike_lifeguard> greezmunkey: http://www.columbia.edu/~rtt2101/iaoq/#II.B2 might apply, but it is for solaris
[05:09] <v3rr3z> I keep getting stuff about not having permission to do things
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> q0k:  i would suggest using a live cd and the gparted tool.
[05:09] <WaterRatj> Anyone know how to uninstall grub from a external hdd?
[05:09] <q0k> It is a Basic Disk, Microsoft Help says basic disks should be used for other OSs.
[05:09] <stevecam> keepsake, that is exactly what i want
[05:09] <coz_> robert__,    http://fosswire.com/post/2009/3/transparent-gtk-themes/
[05:09] <keepsake> stevecam: gksudo gedit usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> WaterRatj:  you normally install some other boot loader over it. Or use 'dd' to carefully zero out the boot block. (and hope you dont make a mistake and trash the drive)
[05:09] <Mike_lifeguard> greezmunkey: I guess, not /usr/sbin/ndd doesn't exist :)
[05:09] <Mike_lifeguard> greezmunkey: so we wait until the socket times out
[05:10] <keepsake> stevecam: Then under [Element PCM] set volume to ignore instead of merge.
[05:10] <carbm1> q0k, You want to keep it a basic disk.  If you make it a dynamic disk Windows will do some funky stuff to it and you can't get it back to basic without a LOT of work. I would use the live ubuntu disk and use GPARTED from the System > Administration > GPARTED. Then run the installer.
[05:10] <keepsake> stevecam: Then add [Element Master] with the lines "switch = mute" and "volume = merge". Restart and presto! =D
[05:10] <WaterRatj> Dr_Willis: How do i make it a normal windows boot again, cause now it when its attached keeps saying grub error, i just want my windows to start
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-uninstall-grub/
[05:10] <greezmunkey> Mike_lifeguard, yea, Probably not much of an issue unless they are really stacking up :/
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> WaterRatj:  reinstall the windows boot loader. and tell the system to NOT boot from the usb drive.
[05:11] <keepsake> stevecam: More specifically controls with "volume = merge" will be affected by the slider. Ignore makes it not change. My PCM is now sitting happily at 70
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> WaterRatj:  also see ->  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-uninstall-grub/
[05:11] <phpmonk> carbm1, this is what i have  http://pastebin.com/mdd699ce
[05:11] <WaterRatj> Dr_Willis: Okay checking it out
[05:11] <coz_> robert__,  this link allows some editing to enable rgba in some themes
[05:11] <coz_> http://fosswire.com/post/2009/3/transparent-gtk-themes/
[05:11] <q0k> Has anybody ever done a new partition from Disk Management? I still think it possible. Or what Disk Management is, if not creating of new partitions?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> first google hit for 'uninstall grub dd' :)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> q0k:  never in xp. Ive resized partions in vista befor
[05:12] <v3rr3z> Why does Ubuntu have root set as owner and me as a user.
[05:12] <coz_> robert__,  testing now be right back
[05:12] <q0k> I mean Windows XP disk management
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  Keep the questions in the channel - not pming me please
[05:12] <keepsake> v3rr3z: Because the root account is dangerous to use as a user.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  you are a user.  a user with special rights
[05:12] <v3rr3z> So how do I give myself ownership?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  clarify the question/problem
[05:12] <keepsake> v3rr3z: What exactly are you trying to do?
[05:13] <CeidaFighter> Hi , i want to remove "X cursor" displayed on boot of X window system.I tried xsetroot , setterm etc.. some succeeded but i cant hide it to shown on boot.IT shown few seconds.I want to hide it forever solution. I'm using Angstrom Linux , i've compiled kernel by bitbake , how can i remove "X Cursor" from source code ? which file its stored on ? Someone have idea where this "X cursor" comes from source code of Linux ?
[05:13] <carbm1> q0k, Can you right click on the drive and then say Convert to Dynamic Drive?
[05:13] <v3rr3z> Share a folder.
[05:13] <greezmunkey> q0k, I think you can create, delete partitions there, but you can't split, reduce or grow one.
[05:13] <q0k> carbm1, if I make it a dynamic disk Windows will do some funky stuff to it and you can't get it back to basic without a LOT of work
[05:13] <carbm1> q0k,  but again. I wouldn't recommend you do that.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  im not sure what you are talking about.. and ive never hared of angstrom linux. Its wouldent be a kernel issue in any case
[05:13] <phpmonk> carbm1, thanks i will check whats wrong
[05:14] <CeidaFighter> DrWillis : I just want to remove ugly "X cursor" on bootup from sourcecode editing.
[05:14] <CeidaFighter> but i dont know where source is located
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  by default the 'X' cursor is the default cursor for the X windos system.,
[05:14] <keepsake> v3rr3z: Check the chown command for that.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  change the default cursors if you want. gnome.kde.whatever wm;s do that by default so you never see it.
[05:15] <CeidaFighter> DrWillis , how can i change default cursor so ?
[05:15] <rww> CeidaFighter: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support. Since you aren't using Ubuntu, please ask in your distribution's channel or in ##linux.
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i just had to look it up -- "Ångström distribution is a Linux distribution for a variety of embedded devices"
[05:15] <keepsake> stevecam: Have you tried the changes?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  what window manager are you using?
[05:15] <carbm1> q0k, Its not possible for Windows to resize its partition table while its active anyways. Its always safer to do it from a live cd or other media. Thats why GParted on the Ubuntu Live cd is great because your probably going to be using it to install Ubuntu anyways right?  Kind of a two for one deal.
[05:15] <CeidaFighter> Dr_Willis : enlightenment
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  then that wm should be chanbgeing it as soon as it starts up
[05:16] <q0k> here: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/dm_create_partitions.mspx?mfr=true "Right-click an unallocated region of a basic disk, and then click New Partition,"
[05:16] <q0k> Where can I find the "unallocated region of a basic disk" ?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  the cursors come from some font file i recall by default. You could edit that. if you wanted
[05:16] <CeidaFighter> Dr_Willis : wm change before start ? how ?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  but this is getting into X/Linux old-skool stuff
[05:16] <v3rr3z> thats a temporary share?
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> q0k, you'll only have "unallocated region..." if you have empty space on your drive
[05:16] <v3rr3z> I am trying to share Videos with my PS3
[05:16] <greezmunkey> q0k, most people dedicate their entire drive space when installing Windows...
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  i never said it changed befor it starts.. it changes it when the wm starts
[05:16] <keepsake> v3rr3z: that gives you ownership of the folder.
[05:16] <v3rr3z> Alright.. Thanks
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  if you just run 'X' you get a X display with a X cursor - thats as minimal a X display as you can get.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  thers the xsetroot command i recall that can also disable it
[05:17] <stevecam> keepsake, it works, thank you, i will have to make note of that
[05:17] <CeidaFighter> Dr_Willis , yes xsetroot helps me but its not started before x window starts , so it shows for short time
[05:17] <keepsake> stevecam: Yes, me too =P enjoy the slightly-higher-quality sound =P
[05:17] <carbm1> q0k,  You probably don't have any unallocated space. It would be a grey area at the end.  Each partition is probably currently showing as a yellowish block and would say NTFS (Healthy).
[05:18] <CeidaFighter> DrWillis : i will use Linux for TV system , no need cursor displayed or i m gonna suck
[05:18] <carbm1> q0k, That page only says that you can create and delete. Not resize.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  so  find the font file its using and edit the font file if you want to bend over backwards for a trivial thing like that
[05:18] <stevecam> keepsake, i will, and i can now stick with the volume control in gnome instead of keeping a terminal open
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  theres commands to hide the pointer also i recall
[05:18] <CeidaFighter> Dr_Willis , cursors are fonts ????
[05:18] <keepsake> stevecam: Haha, yeah, down with alsamixer =P
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  the default X cursor is defined by a FONT FILE yes. or at least it used to be
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> I said so earlier
[05:19] <v3rr3z> sudo chown bob:bob(<- what would this be? root/V3RR3Z) /home/bob/*(<--Folder)?
[05:20] <arwen> Hey
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> cursor.pcf.gz
[05:20] <showell> hi does anybody know how to install a driver for PL2303 Prolific USB to Serial?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> v3rr3z, assuming /home/bob is your home folder and your username is bob - to change all files to be owned by you use "sudo chown -R bob:bob /home/bob"
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> CeidaFighter:  newer window managers use more complex pointer/cursor file formats
[05:21] <arwen> I need some help with getting a music player to work on my version of Ubuntu
[05:21] <v3rr3z> Even if on a different HDD?
[05:21] <CeidaFighter> Dr_Willis , xbm files ?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  what filesystem is on the hdd?
[05:21] <v3rr3z> ntfs
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> v3rr3z, linux permission won't work then
[05:21] <eli7777> hey dose any one know of a program that will let you use the 10key to type kinda like Q9
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  then you need toi mount it with the proper options
[05:22] <v3rr3z> >.>
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  install./run the ntfs-config tool and check the proper box's to allow users full access
[05:22] <v3rr3z> Will this do anything when trying to access with my windows boot?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  it dosent affect the permissions of the files.. just now its mountd
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ntfs/vfst
[05:22] <v3rr3z> I see.. It is mounted ..
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ntfs/vfat MUST be mounted with special options to 'fake' the various linux permissionbs that they dont allow.
[05:23] <v3rr3z> http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/stream-media-from-ubuntu-to-your-ps3/ ---I am using this guide yet my other hdd isnt showing.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  try mounting it from the command line, look for error messages
[05:24] <arwen> I need some help with a music player on Ubuntu
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> and try that ntfs-config tool. Unmount, then remount the drives.
[05:26] <coz_> rober
[05:26] <coz_> dar
[05:26] <coz_> n
[05:26] <v3rr3z> Found the file after remounting.. but.. i got alot of errors.
[05:27] <v3rr3z> 2010-02-13 00:26:07 WARNING: filemagic returned invalid mimetype for /media/Secondary/MEDIA/Videos/Whi.XviD/Thumbs.db
[05:27] <v3rr3z> CDF V2 Document, corrupt: Cannot read summary info; charset=binary
[05:28] <v3rr3z> Just picture issuses?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> v3rr3z:  we really dont know what you are doing....
[05:28] <v3rr3z> Alright .. Sorry
[05:29] <foul_owl> hey, i have sort of an odd question. i have hooked up a wiimote to my machine, and it works great. I was just wondering if it would be possible for an input device to send a keypress to a process if that process has focus or not. ie, i want my wiimote to be able to pause the video i'm watching in gmplayer, even if firefox has focus. Is this possible?
[05:29] <RudyValencia> Hi, I wrote a bash script that waits a certain number of seconds and then uses xset dpms force off to turn off the screen; if I pastebin it could someone look at it and suggest improvements, if any, to be made?
[05:29] <rothsdad> Hi, can I use the linux vncviewer to control my windows?
[05:30] <knoppies> rothsdad, yes. Install tightVNC server on your windows.
[05:30] <carbm1> RudyValencia, When do you run the script? It it ACPI activated?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  proberly possible. depening on how the wimote is being seen. ive only toyed with the things
[05:30] <RudyValencia> carbm1: I run it when I want to go to bed and have the screen turn off.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> rothsdad:  any vncviewer Should work with any vncserver.. in theory
[05:30] <knoppies> rothsdad, you could use realVNC instead, but I prefer tightVNC
[05:30] <foul_owl> could it be extended to any sort of input device though, such as gamepad buttons, or a second keyboard
[05:31] <carbm1> RudyValencia, Surely we could take a look. Should be fairly simple.
[05:31] <robert__> what theme engine does xfce use by default?
[05:31] <RudyValencia> ok
[05:31] <RudyValencia> http://pastebin.com/f68b04518
[05:31] <arwen> Hi I need some help with getting a music player working with my ipod
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  ive seen media players with gamepad input features. mplayer i know can do it
[05:31] <rothsdad> knoppies: yes, i use the tightvnc. but it doesn't work. I use realvnc on my windows.
[05:31] <darolu> !ipod | arwen
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> rothsdad:  ive used Ultravnc on windows and tightvncviewer -> ultravnc worked..
[05:32] <foul_owl> i mean the idea of sending keypresses to a process even if it doesn't have focus. is that possible?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  yes
[05:32] <carbm1> RudyValencia, that has to be the most complicated script to turn off your monitor I have ever seen. Very nice.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  you could make a button that launches some 'mediaplayer --pause' command
[05:32] <carbm1> RudyValencia, of course... I'm not much of a programmer myself.
[05:33] <carbm1> RudyValencia, you might have to give me some tips on a few of my own scripts.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  or some can read commands from fifo pipes.. and other fancy tricks
[05:33] <RudyValencia> Oh I hardly know bash scripting
[05:33] <foul_owl> Dr_Willis: Do you have a link to any sort of documentation about this? It has been hard to google for
[05:33] <v3rr3z> Alright.. Does Ubuntu have a Session window? I cant find it
[05:33] <RudyValencia> carbm1: I hardly know bash scripting; I just 'hacked it up' in a few minutes after reading how to code bash scripts.
[05:33] <jrtayloriv> I have an external USB harddrive. When I plug it in, two of the ext3 partitions are auto-mounted and appear on my Desktop. The first partition does not, and I have to mount it manually. How do I fix this and make it auto-mount as well?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  mplayer docs for mplayer.
[05:34] <carbm1> UltraVNC has the best VNC client... I have to run it in Wine on my Linux box.  I wish I could find a VNC client with scaling and password at the CLI that worked on Linux natively.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  i imagine vlc has similer options
[05:34] <sudobash> sh
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  'at the cli' huh?
[05:34] <RudyValencia> carbm1: I needed a Linux alternative to "MonSD" on the Windows side, so I hacked this up after figuring out how to make the monitor go into DPMS sleep mode.
[05:35] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, I think he is talking about the console/terminal/whatever the hell you want to call it.
[05:35] <v3rr3z> Any suggested programs i should install for Ubuntu
[05:35] <foul_owl> Dr_Willis: Even if just some c code about getting keypresses without focus
[05:35] <carbm1> Dr_Willis, yes.
[05:35] <genii> v3rr3z: ubuntu-restricted extras
[05:36] <foul_owl> thanks!
[05:36] <carbm1> Dr_Willis, command line interface.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> foul_owl:  thats what 'input' triggers are all about.
[05:36] <greezmunkey> RudyValencia, you could post it in the forum, and ask for improvments there, I'm sure you'll get pleanty of responses! :)
[05:36] <knoppies> v3rr3z, if you have a decent graphics card, install Compizconfig settings manager
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  yes i know wht cli means.. but no idea what you are meaning by it...
[05:36] <RudyValencia> greezmunkey: thanks
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> carbm1:  but i guess it dosent matter much :) i will stick with tightvnc viewer for now
[05:37] <RudyValencia> what I want to do is make something similar, but with a GUI
[05:37] <jrtayloriv> I have an external USB harddrive. When I plug it in, two of the ext3 partitions are auto-mounted and appear on my Desktop. The first partition does not, and I have to mount it manually. How do I fix this and make it auto-mount as well?
[05:38] <carbm1> I need a vncviewer that accepted the password from the command.  Having to type in the password everytime you remote a machine is annoying.  I have about 600 computers at work and it gets annoying jumping from one to another and having to type in the password each time.
[05:38] <arwen> For my ipod I'm going to use Banshee which size do I download?
[05:38] <darolu> jrtayloriv: what's in your fstab file?
[05:38] <darolu> /etc/fstab*
[05:39] <denis123> Hi. I uninstalled my included ATI Hardware Driver to install a newer version (which stuffed up even more). How can I re-install the version that comes with Ubuntu by default (ie: the one found under System > Admin > Hardware Drivers). Thanks!
[05:39] <jrtayloriv> darolu, http://pastebin.ca/1795063
[05:40] <jrtayloriv> darolu, The external drive is /dev/sdc
[05:40] <jrtayloriv> sdc2 and sdc3 are auto-mounting fine, just not sdc1
[05:40] <RudyValencia> Is there a program similar to MonSD (http://lumisade.com/monsd/) for Linux?
[05:40] <arwen> Which size should I use for my ipod?
[05:41] <darolu> jrtayloriv: open a terminal and type: "sudo blkid sdc1" copy the UUID number, you'll need to add it to your fstab file
[05:41] <carbm1> denis123, I have good luck using envy.  From the software center search for "envyng". It should let you pick a version. Just easier in my opinion.
[05:41] <RudyValencia> (one that puts an icon in the tray that, whwn clicked, counts down a specified number of seconds, and then puts the display into DPMS standby)?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> envy is still around?  :) been ages sine ive seen it mentioned
[05:41] <denis123> carbml: ok i'll look into it
[05:41] <DaemonFC> arwen, What do you mean "which size?"?
[05:42] <darolu> jrtayloriv: then type: gksu gedit /etc/fstab to edit your file
[05:42] <jrtayloriv> darolu, blkid sdc1 gives no output
[05:42] <v3rr3z> Nifty effects
[05:42] <darolu> jrtayloriv: did you run it with sudo?
[05:43] <arwen> It's 3.6 mib 18.7 kib and 2.4 kib
[05:43] <denis123> carbm1: I installed and clicked it. I don't think it did anything how does it work?
[05:43] <DaemonFC> arwen, Rhythmbox supports ipods, you just need to enable the plug-in
[05:43] <darolu> jrtayloriv: oh my bad, it is "sudo blkid /dev/sdc1"
[05:43] <arwen> pk
[05:43] <jrtayloriv> darolu, Nevermind -- no I was being stupid
[05:43] <arwen> ok
[05:43] <jrtayloriv> darolu, oh there you go beat me to it :)
[05:44] <arwen> How do I enable the plug in?
[05:44] <jrtayloriv> darolu, Thanks for your help -- yes, I just copied what you had said without thinking. I saw error shortly after -- appreciate it
[05:44] <carbm1> denis123, Open Terminal and type "sudo envy"
[05:44] <greezmunkey> carbm1, have you checked into VNC Central?
[05:44] <greezmunkey> carbm1, look here: http://vnccentral.sourceforge.net/
[05:44] <darolu> jrtayloriv: is ok; do your sdc1 has a label or a name you would like to use?
[05:45] <DaemonFC> arwen, Edit/Plugins/Portable Players-ipod, make sure it's checked
[05:45] <DaemonFC> if it is, it should detect it when you plug the ipod into the USB port
[05:45] <carbm1> denis123, I'm sorry. Thats "sudo envyng -t"
[05:45] <bullgard> How to switch on the participation on  popularity contest?
[05:45] <darolu> jrtayloriv: you'll need to create a directory to mount your harddrive inside /media; to do this do "sudo mkdir /media/yourdirectoryname"
[05:46] <denis123> carbm1: ok working. Thanks :) Hopefully this'll get compiz to work :)
[05:46] <carbm1> greezmunkey, Looking into it....
[05:46] <jrtayloriv> darolu, yes, I've got it from here. I appreciate it.
[05:46] <darolu> jryatloriv: OK
[05:46] <arwen> Ok it sees the ipod
[05:47] <Rawxor> just installed 9.10 on an acer revo something or other - having problems with sound in flash (i've used alsamixer to set all channel levels to 100% and unmute them) - i've done this a billion times but i can't figure out why i don't have sound in flash... any ideas?
[05:48] <arwen> Do I click ok? (to open with Rhythm box)
[05:50] <bullgard> !sound  |  Rawxor
[05:50] <IdleOne> bullgard: in Software Sources in the Statistics tab
[05:52] <denis123> carbm1: I installed the driver via envyng
[05:52] <joebodo> Rawxor, if your on 64 bit, you could try the 64 bit flash
[05:52] <carbm1> denis123, easy huh?
[05:53] <denis123> now I get this error when starting: (EE) Unable to initialize PC database, (EE) Missing PCS default file /etc/ati/amdpcsdb.default, (EE) No devices detected
[05:53] <realcoolguy> general question since flash is a current topic, did the low framerate/stutter problem get fixed?
[05:53] <denis123> carbm1: that's happened before though with these drivers
[05:54] <bullgard> IdleOne: Thank you for your help.
[05:54] <IdleOne> bullgard: welcome
[05:54] <carbm1> I hate trying to get video drivers working in Linux.  Unforunately I don't have any suggestions.
[05:55] <denis123> carbm1: I ran compiz check. This is what it says: http://pastebin.com/m39ac2807
[05:55] <denis123> kk
[05:55] <q0_0p> is it possible to use a camera for webcam like usage?
[05:55] <q0_0p> just wondering
[05:55] <keepsake> q0_0p: Depends on the camera
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, what about a fujifilm Z3?
[05:56] <keepsake> q0_0p: Most of them can't, I've owned one that can; if you camera is capable it will have the mode built-in.
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, cool thx
[05:56] <keepsake> q0_0p: If it doesn't have a webcam/PC-cam mode built in it won't work
[05:56] <q0_0p> keepsake, good to know thx
[05:57] <greezmunkey> denis123, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960393
[05:57] <TerryNova> Hi everybody
[05:59] <TerryNova> So I just got my dedicated server set up and was wondering if its possible to setup a desktop enviroment using nx?
[06:01] <Guest18394> im on xubuntu how do i get compiz enabled?
[06:01] <gerrin> having major problems with my panels, could really use help
[06:01] <genii> Guest18394: Perhaps enquire in their channel, #xubuntu
[06:02] <q0_0p> Guest18394, download simple-ccsm?
[06:02] <greezmunkey> TerryNova, I found a blog post that may be helpful: http://michigantelephone.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/how-to-install-nx-server-and-client-under-ubuntukubuntu-linux/
[06:02] <coz_> gerrin,  what is the problem?
[06:02] <q0_0p> Guest18394, sudo apt-cache search simple-ccsm
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> TerryNova, you might also be interested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:03] <gerrin> the applications/places/and system tabs that were on my top panel, are now missing and i dont know how or where they went lol
[06:03] <coz_> gerrin,  ok is there naything else on the dock?
[06:03] <TerryNova> wow thanks man, found my error
[06:03] <carbm1> gerrin, Have you done very much customizing of your panels? Its possible to reset them back to defaults if you haven't.
[06:04] <gerrin> no not really, hardly any at all
[06:04] <gerrin> how do i reset to default
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> gerrin, right click on panel / Add to Panel -- use either Main Menu or Menu Bar < not sure
[06:04] <coz_> gerrin, menu bar
[06:04] <IdleOne> !panels | gerrin
[06:04] <denis123> Hi. I'm having troubles with ATI drivers and getting Compiz to work (when running on ATI driver i have to boot into low graphics mode). The output of Compiz-check is here: http://pastebin.com/m39ac2807
[06:05] <coz_> denis123,  go into the #compiz channel and talk with soreau
[06:05] <gerrin> ok im gonna sound like a newb, but how do i get in the terminal
[06:05] <coz_> gerrin,   right click the panel   add to panel    manu bar
[06:05] <denis123> coz_: ok will do. Thanks
[06:05] <greezmunkey> denis123, did the URL I posted help any?
[06:05] <coz_> gerrin,  or   alt+f2     gnome-terminal
[06:05] <mbhagya> gerrin: accessories -> terminal
[06:06] <denis123> greezmunkey: sorry I didn't see. I must have restarted. Can you post the URL again? Sorry
[06:06] <carbm1> gerrin, I would try what coz_ is telling you.  Its probably good to know how to add it back manually.  Reseting it is sometimes just easier.
[06:06] <gerrin> i figured it out, thanks guys
[06:06] <greezmunkey> denis123, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960393
[06:07] <coz_> gerrin,  what did you figure out to do?
[06:07] <denis123> greezmunkey: will do. Thanks!
[06:07] <greezmunkey> denis123, the posts there are a bit scattered, but there is some good info there.
[06:08] <gerrin> what you said coz
[06:08] <denis123> greezmunkey, ok thanks!
[06:08] <gerrin> preciate it
[06:09] <gerrin> now i just need to know how to arrange stuff in the panel so i can have it all where i want it lol
[06:09] <carbm1> gerrin, I've totally fubar'd my panels trying to do just that. I've had it so messed up it was just easier to start over... Glad you got it fixed.
[06:10] <gerrin> then ill just keep it like it is then, no moving for me lol
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> this is where you realize that kde4's panel system is a little handier in many ways
[06:11] <joebodo> not sure how you can mess up a panel by moving thngs - ive never had issues
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> You can get them moved so close they are a pain to move back :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> or pack it so tight
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[06:11] <carbm1> or locked vrs unlocked and things moving around.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> that gnome-shell totally sort of kicks the panel concept in the head. Not much panel to it, (yet)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I still miss the old windowmaker dock/warf methods
[06:12] <clone1018> How do I make a program start when the computer starts?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  depends on what program.
[06:13] <carbm1> clone1018, before a user logins or after?
[06:13] <clone1018> a terminal program such as apache or unreal
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  then theres start at boot.. vs start at  login
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  easy way.. add command to /etc/rc.local
[06:13] <clone1018> start at boot if possible
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> clone1018:  webserver should allready be starting
[06:13] <clone1018> ya
[06:13] <clone1018> it was an example
[06:14] <drumhed> any e16 users in here?  i have a question about configuration
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> theres actual 'services' ran by upstart/sysv then thers extra commands/tweakd in rc.local
[06:19] <greezmunkey> g'night all
[06:21] <datz> Hi I was wondering if there is anyway to set a pic for the background of a terminal, and have it act as a trasparent terminal would if the desktop wallpaper were the same as the terminal background.  Basically I have a transparent terminal, but don't like seeing the icons.
[06:21] <datz> on my desktop
[06:21] <chester_copperpo> anyone know how to change default file manager in xfce4
[06:22] <Flannel> datz: you can set a background image for your terminal window, yes
[06:22] <drumhed> datz - i can give you some ideas that might help
[06:23] <datz> Flannel, drumhed, when I try to set the same background image for the terminal as the desktop, it cuts it up into smaller images
[06:23] <datz> (not really) but that's what it looks like
[06:23] <datz> drumhed: what are the ideas?
[06:24] <drumhed> i misread your question
[06:24] <datz> ok
[06:24] <drumhed> datz: you might find your answer by setting "style" to "centered"
[06:25] <carbm1> night all
[06:25] <datz> drumhed: I don't see that option in the terminal background tab
[06:26] <datz> I swear in the past I had a terminal set to transparent, and the desktop items didn't bleed through
[06:26] <datz> I've even seized my desktop background so that the terminal doesn't repeat it, but there are still problems
[06:27] <chester_copperpo> datz, check online for a tut. ive seen what you want to do before
[06:27] <datz> chester_copperpo: ok, I'll look, thanks
[06:27] <chester_copperpo> your terminal is probably embeded in the desktop
[06:27] <drumhed> datz : what enviroment are you using (e.g.: kde, gnome, xfce, etc..)
[06:27] <drumhed> >
[06:27] <datz> drumhed: gnome
[06:27] <aetaric> i have a graphics issue involving compiz. I installed 9.10 fresh and compiz was working. after a reboot it won't let me use it
[06:28] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, are you using a KVM?
[06:28] <knoppies> chester_copperpo, he just quit.
[06:29] <datz> I'll try rescaling the wallpaper again and see what the problem with that was
[06:30] <chester_copperpo> what does irc message  " :cannot send to channel" mean?
[06:30]  * Hamlin is now away: Detatched, leave a message.
[06:31] <datz> chester_copperpo: is your nick registered and identified?
[06:31] <aetaric> >.< silly xchat
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> nope
[06:31] <datz> chester_copperpo: that's probably the problem
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> datz thanks
[06:31] <datz> np
[06:31] <aetaric> so yeah. compiz problem
[06:31] <chester_copperpo> do you know the command?
[06:32] <datz>  /msg nickserv help
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, do you have 2 monitors?
[06:32] <aetaric> yes
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> try unplugging one
[06:32] <aetaric> them being mirrored stops it?
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> aetaric, driver issue
[06:32] <aetaric> i see
[06:32] <chester_copperpo> just try it with one moniter and see if it works
[06:33] <chester_copperpo> they are probably not being config with the right resolutions
[06:34] <chester_copperpo> im out. bye
[06:34] <rothsdad>  i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz GenuineIntel, can I use KVM?
[06:34] <chester_copperpo> rothsdad, yeah
[06:34] <rothsdad> chester_copperpo: really?
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> why wouldnt you?
[06:35] <aetaric> should i reboot?
[06:35] <rothsdad> chester_copperpo: my cpu isn't on the list that can use kvm
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> the only issue you have to watch for is when you boot into X, sometimes the kvm screws up the monitor detection..
[06:35] <chester_copperpo> we are talking keyboard, video, mouse right?
[06:36] <kangkung> rothsdad : u can use KVM, try it
[06:36] <rothsdad> kangkung: ok, i'll have a try
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> KVM has so many different meanings.. :)
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> datz, if you want a terminal with transparency (but without true transparency) you might want to check out eterm or aterm < both a rather old school compared to gnome-terminal though
[06:37] <kangkung> rothsdad : i ever use KVM for sempron 3000+ and work
[06:37] <datz> ZykoticK9: ok, I'll check them out thanks
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> i use syngery for a software KVM sort of thing.. :)
[06:37] <catzz> Hello is there any program to edit PDF formats?
[06:38] <datz> I just resized the image to 1650 x 1080 and set the same background for the desktop and termial, but for some reason it doesn't want to match up. (install eterm now)
[06:39] <chester_copperpo> catzz, openoffice ?
[06:39] <kangkung> catzz : i use open source linux pdf writer
[06:39] <eli7777> hey i'm wanting a program that will let me do Q9 text input. like a cell phone. is there a program of mod i canuse to do with?
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> chester_copperpo, does openoffice edit PDFs?  i know you can export to PDF, but can you really edit them?
[06:39] <catzz>  yes i know but i recieved CV in PDF format how to edit it?
[06:40] <coz_> eli7777,  ooo that one I dont know
[06:40] <datz> ZykoticK9: how do I start eterm?
[06:40] <chester_copperpo> ZykoticK9, i thought it did, but then again its to bloated for me so i usually skip it.
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> datz, it Eterm
[06:40] <eli7777> lol. hey if t was ez i wouldnt be asking
[06:40] <datz> ok
[06:40] <datz> thanks
[06:41] <catzz> ?
[06:41] <FeasibilityStudy> God I hate upstart.
[06:41] <chester_copperpo> catzz, google is your friend
[06:41] <catzz> uhu thanks! :D
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> FeasibilityStudy, ya fast bootups are such a drag
[06:41] <catzz> How to set VLC media player as standart player
[06:42] <eli7777> well i have been trying to play with a few things to make it work. myth has something like a want but i dont know how i can use it in gnome
[06:42] <kangkung> eli7777 : try to use Condor cluster
[06:42] <renegaid> are there any gui benchmark utilities
[06:42] <zoran119> looking at ubuntu /home permissions... it seems that by default anyone can read my files... is this normal?
[06:42] <chester_copperpo> catzz, what window manager are you using?
[06:42] <datz> ZykoticK9: hey look, that works perfectly. I guess it's not "true" transparency
[06:42] <datz> ZykoticK9: thanks
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> datz, glad it worked for ya
[06:42] <chester_copperpo> catzz, i mean, desktop environment.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> zoran119:  yes i think so
[06:43] <FeasibilityStudy> ZykoticK9: its not that, it's that I dont know how to configure it
[06:43] <zoran119> Dr_Willis: that's bad! why is that?
[06:43] <datz> ZykoticK9: one more thing, how can I run it without output. I don't want to run it in screen. Something like Eterm -q?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> zoran119:  change it if you want.., its not really 'bad'
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> FeasibilityStudy, i was just joking with you (i understand you frustration if you're trying to add/customize something) - BUT the fast bootup times are made possible by Upstart so to say you Hate it is kinda harsh
[06:44] <eli7777> kangkung, what condor clusters home page?
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> datz, why not create a launcher for it in the menus?
[06:45] <datz> ZykoticK9: good idea
[06:45] <maitraya> Hi everyone, I have a question to ask you..
[06:45] <datz> also -q is a no input option :)
[06:45] <maitraya> I'm new to ubuntu
[06:46] <kangkung> eli7777 : search at google dude..
[06:46] <datz> Eterm has a pretty long man file. :P
[06:46] <zcat[1]> !ask | maitraya
[06:46] <maitraya> Can I modify ubuntu (i.e. create my own mod OS) and redistribute it?
[06:46] <eli7777> i am but i have no use for a cluster. i was hoping you were going tell me something useful
[06:47] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  yes but you probably can't call it 'ubuntu'
[06:47] <eli7777> i am trying to set this up for an in-car pc
[06:47] <ZykoticK9> maitraya, so long as you release the source code to all your changes (and don't use any of the Ubuntu/Canonical artwork logos etc)
[06:47] <maitraya> ok. But can you name any software which can do that?
[06:47] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  eg 'mint' is a modified ubuntu (and ubuntu is a modified debian...)
[06:47] <aetaric> i'm trying to get compiz working again on my radeon 9600 i have only one monitor plugged in.
[06:48] <soreau> aetaric: Please come to #compiz and I will help you.
[06:48] <geekyogi> is it possible to set sleep and shutdown timers manually ... the gnome-power-manager doesnt allow users to hard code the low and critically low battery levels
[06:48] <qwertyjustin> hey alll. Just looking to try and play a run of the mill dvd in ubuntu
[06:48] <qwertyjustin> any ideas
[06:49] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[06:49] <qwertyjustin> vlc wont play a dvd disc
[06:49] <almark> hello how do I make use of dual monitor setup with xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[06:49] <almark> I'm sorry without because its not there
[06:49] <maitraya> Any software which can customize ubuntu screens, logons so that I can repack it  for my own OS.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> almark:  what vid card?
[06:49] <almark> Dr_Willis_ Nvidia and Ati
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | maitraya
[06:49] <zcat[1]> maitraya:  rebuilding all the packages is HARD WORK ...
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> almark:  you have a system with 2 video cards an Nvidia AND an ati?
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, have you installed libdvdread4 and run the script?
[06:50] <maitraya> ubottu: thanks
[06:50] <almark> Dr_Willis_ Its enabled my Nvidia but I really don't want ot copy over the xorg because Ubuntu does things differently
[06:50] <almark> Dr_Willis_ correct
[06:50] <qwertyjustin> ZykoticK9: no not yet, i'll give that a try now. synaptic package mngr?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> almark:   it might be doable.. bt ive no idea on mixing ati and nvidia. Im suprised the pc dosent blow itself aart with  the 2 diffrent cards in there. :)
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for more info
[06:51] <maitraya> I just want to customize thmees, wallpapers and logon screnns. I just want to install new softwares I use and repack it.
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, are you using Karmic?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> almark:  with just nvidia - it should be easy. but no idea on how ati would mix into it
[06:51] <qwertyjustin> jaunty
[06:51] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I do it all the time in windows and have that setup running in Debian ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> almark:  the debian xorg.conf should work then.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> 'should'
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> qwertyjustin, then instead you need to add the medibuntu repository and install libdvdcss2
[06:51] <maitraya> What are the qualifications to be a MOTU?
[06:51] <almark> Dr_Willis_ well then I guess I'll have to use my xorg.conf already configured but does that hurt a Ubuntu system?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> almark:  i dont see how it could hurt.
[06:52] <qwertyjustin> oh right
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> almark:  most of xorg auto configures these days anyway
[06:52] <renegaid> are there any gui benchmarking tools?
[06:52] <almark> Dr_Willis_ thanks, and what my other problem is how do you make a window drag from screen to screen, all I can drag are files only is there a way
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  huh? With nvidia and xinerama/twinview my desktop is one WIDE desktop covering both monitors.
[06:53] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I read somewhere about Xrimera or whatever that can do that
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  or you coud set up 2 seperate X displays.. but i never do it that way
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  i always use xinerama and twinview
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> almark:  sounds like you have 2 seperate X displays setup
[06:54] <almark> Dr_Willis_ lol that is basicially what I have here to seperate displays on one computer its like 2 computers which isn't what I need
[06:54] <papsh> renegaid, tools for benchmarking guis, or gui frontends for benchmarking?
[06:54] <qwertyjustin> yep infact, added the medibuntu repositroy and installed libdvdcss2
[06:54] <qwertyjustin> what from there
[06:54] <almark> Dr_Willis_ yep that is what it is, ok should I just apt-get install xinerama?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> nvidia has 'twinview' thats its xinerama replacement.. ati i think has somthing similar also
[06:54] <renegaid> tools for benchmarking with a gui. not those command line nonsense
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> xinerama is a X FEATURE. not a program
[06:55] <maitraya> I am a high school student and want to be a part of MOTU team. What are my qualifications?
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ for my Ati card and it being 10 years old I can't use the propertatiry drivers
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ I suppose I could install the official Nvidia for my MX200
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> almark:  you may  to do some research/tweaking then. and be lucky
[06:55] <renegaid> I want to see how fast my raid disk is with ubuntu
[06:55] <almark> Dr_Willis_ ok thanks again well see how this works out
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> the fact you are not using the fglrx driver for hte ati card may make using the nvidia stuff easier
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> a gui to show  # is so much better then a command line.. :)
[06:56] <rww> maitraya: the MOTU team's channel is #ubuntu-motu. Perhaps ask there.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> renegaid:  theres a few benchmarking suites out there for linjux now. I dont use any. so cant even rember the names
[06:56] <almark> Dr_Willis_ yeah I have tried forever to install the fglrx driver never works because my card isn't support by ati anymore for future editions of xorg
[06:57] <renegaid> been googling no results
[06:57] <reto`> almark: maybe xinerama is going to work anyway?
[06:57]  * almark loves command line
[06:57] <reto`> !xinerama
[06:57] <almark> reto_ i'm going to try it right now :)
[06:57] <tucemiux> i am attempting to auto mount a partition encrypted with cryptsetup luks format but it doesnt auto mount, I can manually mount by clicking on the partiton in "places->", what am I doing wrong? I am following this guide: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/
[06:57] <almark> that'll do it :)
[07:01] <almark> reto_ it says here on the site you gave me talking about using 2 Nvidia cards or 2 ati cards not 1 and 1 ati and nvidia, is there a way to make them one screen like in windows?
[07:02] <hotbitch> 
[07:04] <bullgard> How are defined the categories which the popularity contest defined?
[07:05] <bullgard> How are defined the categories which the popularity contest uses?
[07:05] <theadmin> What's a segmentation fault?
[07:05] <Flannel> bullgard: I don't believe there are categories, but you can browse the data yourself: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[07:06] <Flannel> theadmin: Its when a program tries to access something it shouldn't
[07:06] <bullgard> theadmin: Roughly: When a program does not respect rules for storage subdivision and overrides storage which is reserved for other data.
[07:06] <theadmin> I see. Thanks, Flannel, bullgard
[07:07] <theadmin> Hrm. How to restart metacity without logging out?
[07:08] <sirspyr0> hello everyone
[07:08] <sirspyr0> is anyone by any chance experienced with the b43 drivers for broadcom 4311?
[07:08] <sirspyr0> i've been recieving very mixed information
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  meticity --replace
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  metacity --replace
[07:10] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: thanks.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  try the fusion-icon tool if you want to change meatcity/compiz a lot
[07:11] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Er, now it won't let me close the terminal cause there is a "process running"
[07:11] <genii> alt-f2 metacity --replace
[07:11] <The> .
[07:12] <Guest5768> giwtww
[07:13] <sirspyr0> anyone know anything about the b43 wlan drivers?
[07:13] <bullgard> Flannel: There are. At least 3: having no tag, RECENT-CTIME, and NOFILES.  --  Please tell me what RECENT-CTIME and what NOFILES means.
[07:14] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[07:14] <LMJ> Is there anyone would could help me out with this issue plz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8796104
[07:14] <theadmin> Interesting. The "System" menu has an icon for gnome-control-center, but it's hidden by default...
[07:15] <nomad77> !ask |sirspyr0
[07:15] <Archanamiya> Hello. I'm trying to start an X session, which goes fine, except for the fact that the new x-session always has an xterm in it, which I don't want. Closing it causes the whole X-session to close. What can I do?
[07:15] <qwertyjustin> hey do u guys know if its possible to get a command line shell placed @ the bottom of conky?
[07:16] <theadmin> Archanamiya: How do you start it?
[07:16] <Archanamiya> theadmin, "xinit -- :2"
[07:16] <theadmin> Archanamiya: For me, startx goes fine, no terminals show up.
[07:16] <Archanamiya> hmm
[07:16] <Archanamiya> 1 second
[07:17] <Archanamiya> heh
[07:17] <Archanamiya> theadmin, then it starts another ubuntu-session. I want just a blank x-session
[07:17] <theadmin> Archanamiya: Oh.
[07:18] <zcat[1]> Archanamiya:  "X"
[07:18] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], what do you mean
[07:18] <theadmin> Archanamiya: He means, run "X".
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> qwertyjustin:  i doubt if thats possible
[07:19] <zcat[1]> From memory you chouls be able to just type "X" (upeprcase) at a root prompt to start an X server.. byt not something I've tried recently
[07:19] <qwertyjustin> Dr shit
[07:19] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], I need to start it on :2 though
[07:19] <zcat[1]> (might not even need to be a root prompt, depends on permissions and stuff..)
[07:19] <nomad77> sounds like twm. try xinit /usr/bin/<window-manager-name-here> -- :2
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> qwertyjustin:  ive seen other 'root' terminals embeded in the desktop in the past.
[07:19] <Archanamiya> Hey wait a sec
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> niice
[07:20] <reto`> Archanamiya: startx starts another ubuntu session?
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> there we go
[07:20] <Archanamiya> reto`, yes sir
[07:20] <qwertyjustin> how might i go about that
[07:20] <Archanamiya> zcat[1], X :2 worked
[07:20] <Archanamiya> Cheers
[07:20] <zcat[1]> startx is a script that starts a server _and_ a windows manager..
[07:20] <zcat[1]> they only wanted the server
[07:21] <Archanamiya> Ya
[07:21] <Archanamiya> Thanks again everyone :)
[07:21] <nomnex> do I need a package to pass the command suid, sgid on a default karmic?
[07:21] <zcat[1]> damn slow iso download <20K/s
[07:21] <Archanamiya> :S
[07:21] <reto`> I guess startx will do what xinitrc contains (or .xinitrc)
[07:22] <nomnex> ? wrong command to set user id? > No command 'suid' found, did you mean:
[07:23] <ekok> ekok
[07:23] <thevishy> my laptop battery icon is not displaying properly , its saying fully charged while it is being dischrged
[07:23] <thevishy> and it shows 0% in the laptop battery parameter
[07:25] <nomnex> I guess, I have it all wrong, if you can explain suid/sgid commands and syntaxes please
[07:25] <thevishy> can i just refresh the battery icon to show propery values , like kill the process and start it ?
[07:26] <theadmin> I want to write a script that will ask for an app name via Zenity, and start it in terminal as root... So far, I wrote "zenity --entry | gnome-terminal -e "sudo""... But how to get the user output there?
[07:26] <catzz> hello how to make VLC as standart video player?
[07:26] <theadmin> catzz: System - Preferences - Preffered Applications
[07:27] <catzz> ty!
[07:27] <catzz> o what is command to launch VKC?
[07:27] <catzz> VLC?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> catzz:  err.. 'vlc'  :)
[07:28] <axon> does anyone can explain me how to add bots in the game sauerbraten in a multiplayergame?
[07:28] <axon> ?
[07:28] <catzz> xD i thought that it will be too easy for linux XD
[07:28] <ekok> hallo .........
[07:28] <axon> my brother and i tried it with /addbot 50 but it doesn't work
[07:29] <axon> @ ekok : hallo
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> catzz:  if it followed ms guidelines it would be like 'video lan client media player supreme light basic home premium.exe'
[07:29] <jazz> can any one please help me? i need the ppa for virtual box. 32bit for karmic.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  i just saw that in the ubuntu-tweak tool . but no idea what the ppa is.
[07:30] <thevishy> Willis is there way to refresh the battery icon ? I t is showing wrong data
[07:30] <theadmin> axon: That is offtopic
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> thevishy:  Never noticed it wrong. never tried
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> is ubuntu comfortable with amd phenom x4 ?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> axon:  check the games homepage perhaps
[07:30] <theadmin> jazz: I don't think Oracle/Sun have made one
[07:30] <papsh> silv3r_m00n, why wouldn't it be?
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> fine
[07:30] <thevishy> OK I guess I will try with a restart probaby
[07:30] <jazz> Dr_Willis, yeah i got part of it but then when i up date i keep getting an error
[07:31] <theadmin> jazz: Oh wait. Add this to software sources: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian karmic non-free
[07:31] <axon> thx, but i allready checkt the games homepage (@Dr_Willis / theadmin)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> jazz:   i just normally get the deb from the vbox homepage.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> axon:  if its not in the docs,. or forum for the game,, how do you know it can do it at all.
[07:31] <jazz> theadmin,  i have that part.  keeps giving me an error
[07:31] <theadmin> jazz: What error?
[07:32] <jazz> theadmin,  sec ill tell you
[07:32] <bullgard> popularity-contest tags some programs  with the tag <RECENT-CTIME>, and others with <NOFILES>.  --  Please tell me what RECENT-CTIME and what NOFILES means.
[07:33] <jazz> theadmin, the folling signatures couldn't be verified cuz the public key is not available
[07:33] <axon> Dr_Willis: cause on there page they write about an existing command /addbot [Level]
[07:34] <theadmin> jazz: Did you add the public key? Run "wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/sun_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> axon:  check their forums  i guess. or see if they got a irc chat room
[07:34] <jazz> theadmin,  hmm lemme look
[07:34] <theadmin> jazz: Then, do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:36] <jazz> theadmin,  add that to the software resources?
[07:36] <genii> axon: "You must either be master or playing locally to add or remove bots. " http://sauerbraten.org/docs/game.html#bots section 10
[07:37] <prizer> Hey guys, I've never used IRC before. Can anyone see this?
[07:37] <theadmin> prizer: Yes
[07:37] <genii> prizer: We can
[07:37] <theadmin> jazz: Just run that in terminal
[07:37] <prizer> Ok, sorry to bug you. Thanks guys.
[07:37] <prizer> So how goes the Ubuntu night?
[07:37] <rocky123> hiiiiiiiiii
[07:37] <Flannel> bullgard: http://popcon.debian.org/README  search for "tag" and it'll give descriptions of the tags
[07:37] <theadmin> prizer: That is quite offtopic, this is a support channel
[07:37] <goddard> where can i learn about hex editing? does anyone know of any rooms?
[07:37] <reto`> prizer: it's morning here...
[07:38] <prizer> I can't say hello and ask people how they are? Really!?!
[07:38] <reto`> prizer: there's so much support going on... you see? ;)
[07:39] <theadmin> prizer: Well, often after it people start talking about how they are, instead of helping others out which floods the channel. You can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:39] <goddard> where can i learn about hex editing? does anyone know of any rooms?
[07:39] <prizer> Ok.
[07:39] <theadmin> !repeat | goddard
[07:40] <goddard> thank you theadmin
[07:40] <goddard> may i have another :D
[07:40] <theadmin> goddard: Another what? o_O
[07:40] <goddard> chat room spanking
[07:41] <jazz> theadmin,  i still get
[07:41] <jazz> theadmin, W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6AF0E1940624A220
[07:42] <theadmin> jazz: err, that is not related to virtualbox, virtualbox don't use a Launchpad PPA system
[07:42] <jazz> theadmin,  hmm that was the lasthing i installed
[07:43] <eshannon> hello everyone
[07:43] <eshannon> I seem to have a problem with my Internet connection on my Ubuntu 810 box. All other boxes in the house are running great
[07:43] <jazz> theadmin,  so how do i find out which is causing that error?
[07:43] <theadmin> jazz: Hm, don't know %) Let me try to see who this key belongs to
[07:44] <papsh> theadmin, that smiley face %) looks like an insane man
[07:44] <jazz> theadmin,  yeah that too for future ref. im new so i have no clue what it was
[07:45] <jazz> theadmin, least im not the only one with said error...8/
[07:46] <Ziggyzxxyl> If I install ubuntu on to a computer for a friend, is there any way to install it without entering a username, password and user details, and have the computer prompt the new owner for these details?
[07:46] <theadmin> jazz: "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 6AF0E1940624A220 && gpg --export --armor 6AF0E1940624A220 | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update"
[07:46] <Spinaker1> is the next release of Ubuntu going to be called Bukkake? I heard it will be....
[07:46] <theadmin> Ziggyzxxyl: It can be changed later. But no, there is no way.
[07:46] <theadmin> Spinaker: The next release is Lucid Lynx
[07:47] <theadmin> Spinaker1: ^
[07:47] <jazz> theadmin,  what key was it to?
[07:47] <Spinaker1> I met a hooker on Canal Street called Lynx once
[07:47] <Spinaker1> she had a penis
[07:47] <bob-has-an-imgbo> hi, omg plz help, SUDDENLY only root can write on my xD-flash-card AND i CAn't change the permissions, do you want fstab pasted?
[07:48] <eto> hello
[07:48] <theadmin> jazz: I still have no idea wth it is but this is the solution I found on forums
[07:48] <Flannel> Spinaker1: Please behave
[07:48] <Spinaker1> is this network running unreal?
[07:48] <bob-has-an-imgbo> help plz help me
[07:48] <eto> i have a problem with intel graphics the machine runs ubuntu 8.10 lspci string for the device is 82845g
[07:48] <theadmin> !help | bob-has-an-imgbo
[07:48] <Spinaker1> last time i admin'd a network i ran unreal 3.2.6
[07:48] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i asked
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo>  hi, omg plz help, SUDDENLY only root can write on my xD-flash-card AND i CAn't change the permissions, do you want fstab pasted?
[07:49] <Flannel> Spinaker1: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not ircd questions, please help it stay ontopic, thanks.
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i can't change the permissions although i try to change the permission as root
[07:49] <theadmin> bob-has-an-imgbo: My point is, don't scream "please help" and such, this is not gonna get the problem solved faster. If nobody can help nobody will reply.
[07:49] <eto> anybody has an idea? X blinks to vesa gmode and back to console several times then shows a resolution selection, on which if anything is clicked makes the screen go blank for good
[07:49] <bob-has-an-imgbo> best thing: the xD-card is formatted in fat16
[07:49] <papsh> bob-has-an-imgbo, do you have the user option in fstab?
[07:50] <cvd_> my desktop freeze, how to reset desktop, wiht out log out?
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> @papshUUID=D8E3-67A6	/media/16mb-xd-karte	vfat	users,auto,rw,sync,dev	0	0
[07:50] <coppelman> wow any 1 know how to reset every thang cause i tryed to add theams and stuff and now im scorud i have to close tabs cant move windows cant move cube every thang went to hell i mean is bad
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> @papsh: UUID=D8E3-67A6	/media/16mb-xd-karte	vfat	users,auto,rw,sync,dev	0	0
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> this is what i have for the xd-card
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> horrible
[07:50] <coppelman> no close tab botten **
[07:50] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it's not even ext2
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it's just that damn fat16
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> SUDDENLY BOOM, no permissions srsly WTF?!?
[07:51] <Flannel> bob-has-an-imgbo: Please try not to use the enter key as punctuation, it makes it much harder to follow your questions/responses
[07:51] <bob-has-an-imgbo> ok
[07:52] <bob-has-an-imgbo> should i try to format again? i can do that with gparted...
[07:52] <jazz> theadmin, thanks- was looking at the last thing that went into my pc b4 the error i assumed -im new still well since karmic came out.
[07:52] <coppelman> ubuntu is the hardest OS ever
[07:53] <bob-has-an-imgbo> surely it isnt
[07:53] <bob-has-an-imgbo> arch is
[07:53] <coppelman> lol i lost all tabs on all windows yea its hard
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> what should i do know with my xd-card?
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> *now
[07:54] <coppelman> i would hate to do a reload 4 the 16 time this week
[07:54] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i format now my xd-card, let's see what happens.
[07:55] <rcg123> Haha, I messed something up, been playing around with terminal only programs... telnet, lynx, and finally figured out a chat client.  You can get alot done without X it seems...
[07:55] <jazz> Dr_Willis, are you there?
[07:55] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: maybe the device cannot be mounted rw due to errors?
[07:55] <bob-has-an-imgbo> there r no errors
[07:55] <jazz> theadmin, hey i got it it worked and i found out the key owner lol
[07:55] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: fsck?
[07:56] <jazz> thanks!!!!!!!!!
[07:56] <theadmin> jazz: Oh who was it? Just wondering
[07:56] <bob-has-an-imgbo> sense? i mean fsck is it the card is broken or smoething
[07:56] <bullgard> Flannel: Thank you very much for providing this link to an excellent explanatory article.
[07:56] <bob-has-an-imgbo> but maybe...
[07:56] <jazz> theadmin,  ubbuntu tweak
[07:56] <reto`> bob-has-an-imgbo: not broken... but corruped probably
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> lol
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> it works
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> i just deleted the fstab line for mounting the card
[07:57] <bob-has-an-imgbo> thx guys
[07:57] <jazz> theadmin,  dr_willis even said he seen it in the ubuntu tweak tool box ...but didnt knwo what the ppa was for it... im good now tohugh
[07:58] <jazz> theadmin,  https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[07:58] <WaterRatj> How would i remove my cdrom and external cdrom drive from fstab?
[07:59] <reto`> WaterRatj: edit the file?
[07:59] <bob-has-an-imgbo> del line /dev/scd0?
[08:00] <WaterRatj> Just remove the line?
[08:00] <coppelman> :( i need help is this the only help room or can some 1 im me 4 a 1 on  1 to help me
[08:00] <WaterRatj> won't that give issues?
[08:00] <bob-has-an-imgbo> better: put a # in front of it
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> WaterRatj:  comment it out. :)
[08:00] <bob-has-an-imgbo> so u can redel it
[08:01] <jazz> theadmin,  wait...i ran the update again this time not from the terminal but the menus virtual box had an update it took 2 minutes
[08:01] <WaterRatj> and what if my pc won't boot then?
[08:01] <nawk> can someone recommend a video recording/capturing software?
[08:02] <bob-has-an-imgbo> istanbul
[08:02] <bob-has-an-imgbo> also webcam studios
[08:02] <jazz> nawk, record my desktop was what ppl has told me
[08:02] <jazz> i just dont have a mic yet
[08:02] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, I'll try them.  Thanks
[08:03] <jazz> and i hate tutorials and video with cheesy linkin park over them writting how to do something
[08:03] <christopherius> recordmydesktop is what i use
[08:03] <bob-has-an-imgbo> istanbul has ogg-support
[08:03] <nawk> I'm not trying to record my desktop
[08:03] <nawk> I'm trying to video capture with my webcam :)
[08:03] <maddux> question:  if a kernel install was bad, and you wish to remove it, how to tell the system to use an earlier kernel install?
[08:03] <theadmin> maddux: Add it to GRUB boot menu... and boot with it?
[08:04] <maddux> how do i go about that
[08:04] <bob-has-an-imgbo> sudo grub update
[08:04] <openrfc> GRUB is configurable during boot, no?
[08:04] <maddux> it willupdate grub?
[08:05] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, do you know if there exists a motion-activated video record/capture feature in any of the two softwares you recommended?
[08:05] <maddux> i have been taken out the bad stuff, to the point the computer says no kernal to load....except one left in the recovery screen
[08:05] <jazz> theadmin,  thanks man all is well no error on up date.
[08:05] <jazz> im out guys later days.
[08:05] <bob-has-an-imgbo> what is motion-activated?
[08:06] <nawk> start recording as soon as the webcam detects a motion
[08:06] <maddux> was trying to learn about about the comand "dkms" as i wonder if this command can do the job
[08:06] <nawk> or movements
[08:06] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: idk
[08:06] <maddux> i do not know how to give the instruction for using an earlier kernal
[08:07] <nawk> bob-has-an-imgbo, I need to monitor my room
[08:07] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: i use it to use my webcam with adobe flash in firefox
[08:07] <nawk> k
[08:07] <bob-has-an-imgbo> nawk: btw, how should it work in your mind? every motion a file?
[08:07] <Slart> maddux: uninstall the bad kernel package, update grub and it should work again
[08:08] <zcat[1]> !info motion | nawk
[08:08]  * reto` frowns at hearing "adobe flash"
[08:09] <ja660k> hey guys, real quick is there an application i can use to check the status of my network? eg what it up/ if WAN is working etc?
[08:09] <coppelman> wow that guy left
[08:09] <maddux> how to format the updating grub command...so i get this right
[08:09] <coppelman> crap he was helping me
[08:09] <eto> so anybody?
[08:09] <theadmin> ja660k: Uhm, ifconfig?
[08:09] <Slart> maddux: sudo update-grub   should do it
[08:10] <coppelman> any 1 i would love a hand if i could
[08:10] <jazz> anyone know if i can change the names of partitions? so they dont say  17 GB filesystem? i have a few of them and need to keep better tabs on them
[08:10] <maddux> ok, will try.
[08:10] <Slart> jazz: change the label on the filesystem
[08:10] <Slart> !label
[08:10] <ja660k> theadmin, what does that tell me? aside from ip ? sorry for the ignorance
[08:10] <coppelman> ok no 1 likes to help to new guy
[08:11] <eto> okay another try
[08:11] <eto> how to turn off X  advanced effects from command line
[08:11] <Slart> coppelman: why not ask your question again
[08:11] <eto> anybody?
[08:11] <theadmin> ja660k: Hm. Here is an example output. A lot of stuff, actually, http://pastey.net/132933
[08:11] <theadmin> eto: I think, killall compiz
[08:12] <maddux> slart...ok, i did that.    i ran a dkms status and shows builds later than the current grub build, is this an issue?
[08:12] <coppelman> i need to reset all my theme stuff or even to whole os cause i lost my tabs
[08:12] <reto`> !patience > coppelman
[08:12] <ja660k> theadmin, okay thanks
[08:12] <zcat[1]> theadmin:  better to replace it with something? metacity --replace perhaps?
[08:12] <maddux> or unrelated
[08:12] <eto> theadmin:  okay noting that, but to disable them using configuration
[08:12] <jazz> Slart,  thanks for the link...
[08:12] <soreau> eto: You will want to start another window manager so, metacity --replace
[08:13] <Slart> maddux: I have no idea.. I've never used dkms.. but it should work if the kernel isn't found by the update-grub command
[08:13] <Slart> jazz: you're welcome
[08:13] <eto> ugh look i just want to get this damn intel going till the replacemnt nv arrives
[08:13] <maddux> the next boot will tell
[08:13] <eto> i don't have clue what the metacity is or how to start it
[08:14] <Slart> coppelman: lost your tabs? what tabs? how did you lose them?
[08:14] <eto> x crashes on start and screen is blank so i am stuck with the console
[08:14] <jazz> Slart,  when i click to install gparted it give a box to open with aplication...what do i do? i dont have gparted
[08:14] <soreau> eto: Can you explain a bit more exactly the problem your having?
[08:14] <eto> i tried: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel as mentioned in some forum
[08:14] <eto> but apt says all is current
[08:15] <Slart> jazz: run "sudo apt-get install gparted" then run "gksudo gparted" from a terminal
[08:15] <maddux> i am doing all this from command line because video on gui boot in unreadable
[08:15] <coppelman> o
[08:15] <coppelman> see i was try to make it look like a mac
[08:15] <eto> soreau well there was nv card in the machine which started to shake image so it was sent to supplier, there is intel 82845 card builtin
[08:15] <jazz> thank you
[08:16] <coppelman> cause thats what im used to and i lost all the buttens tabs on every window
[08:16] <jazz> Slart,  thanks.
[08:16] <coppelman> i cat cloase them or any thang
[08:16] <eto> when ubuntu starts in the moment where login screen should appear it cycles several times between console and graphics mode and then show resolution selection with everything grayed out
[08:16] <zcat[1]> 'window decorations?'
[08:16] <Slart> coppelman: why not go to system, preferences, appearance and select a theme from there
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  you still have titlebars that can move the windows around?
[08:17] <eto> selecting anything makes the x freeze or what, blank black screen , alf+f1 console works tho
[08:17] <coppelman> case a mac look 1 was not there and i was falowing a youtube vido
[08:17] <soreau> eto: Have you removed/uninstalled the nvidia-glx driver that was installed when you had the nvidia card installed?
[08:17] <coppelman> no
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  also I suggest looking on gnome-look.org and just using someone else's mac theme..
[08:17] <coppelman> no i cant even move a window
[08:17] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  Ahh, so you've lost your window decorator then
[08:18] <Slart> coppelman: I meant go there and select another theme so you at least get a working system again
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> mac themes,, bla
[08:18] <eto> soreau: propably not, can you please give me some advice how to do it using command line?
[08:18] <coppelman> i was tryring stuff like that but its hard to set a theme
[08:18] <Slart> coppelman: then reboot and you can start over again
[08:18] <theadmin> zcat[1]: It's not "decorator", it's "manager"... Altough some managers do decorations too, such as compiz
[08:18] <coppelman> o i all so tryed that
[08:18] <coppelman> no go cant
[08:19] <coppelman> dam thats like the 16th time this week
[08:19] <maddux> its still has problems....cannot get a readable gui boot screen
[08:19] <soreau> eto: Consider the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'. Anything with 'ii' next to it means these are packages that are installed. You will want to remove at least the nvidia-glx package, and probably other related ones
[08:19] <zcat[1]> theadmin:  sounds like they've lost the thing that draws the windows borders and icons.. whatever you want to call it, it's not usually the windows manager
[08:19] <coppelman> is there a way with emrald or compiz
[08:19] <zcat[1]> coppelman:  alt-f2 'emerald --replace'
[08:20] <coppelman> and may be some 1 talk me tro a theme set up so
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> compiz --replace  or metacity --replace   , :) or emerald --replace
[08:20] <eto> okay thx soreau  i will try that
[08:20] <theadmin> Grah! What the! Left mouse button is not working
[08:20] <coppelman> yea thats what i did thats what did this 2 me
[08:20] <maddux> is there a kind of recovery that will not lose absolutely everything when the problem of ubuntu is pretty serious?    seems it need major help or reinstall all...which i think means reformatting
[08:20] <coppelman> emerald -- replace
[08:21] <andreii> ubuntu is good. thanks to the developers.
[08:21] <zcat[1]> maddux:  boot live CD, use it to copy /home onto a USB drive or whatever?
[08:21] <andreii> actually, a great product
[08:21] <andreii> no issues
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> maddux:  you can always get to your files with a live cd if all else fails normally
[08:21] <andreii> just wanted to remind you of awesomeness of ubuntu
[08:21] <maddux> its a netbook, no cd drive
[08:21] <coppelman> wow lol i stumpt him
[08:22] <zcat[1]> finally have a lucid daily to play with.. afk for a while ;)
[08:25] <peppino> is there a way to start a distro fom a directory instead / ?
[08:26] <theadmin> Okay, a problem here. In TTY's, the command output seems to be on russian. However, a) my user language is set to english, well, via GNOME. b) it doesn't seem to have cyrillic... fonts? on TTY, so I get stuff like "He?o?xo????", which makes reading the output simply impossible. So my point, how do you set the language to english in terminal?
[08:26] <coppelman> dam theadmin that must suck
[08:27] <JumboJellyfish> peppino, che fai!?
[08:27] <theadmin> coppelman: Yeah
[08:27] <eto> excuse me but how can one identify ubuntu version ?
[08:27] <peppino> JumboJellyfish: ?
[08:27] <eto> i mean precise, uname -a returns linux string
[08:28] <chachie> does anyone know why typing //root in firefox displays the file system?
[08:28] <maddux> dr willis, i booted by USB, the next best thing.   i will try, to see which kernal or software it is running that didnt make the ubuntu fail on video.
[08:28] <Guest70877> firestarter is showing a bunch of active connections on various ports listing the program as python, anyone with a clue as to why?
[08:28] <JumboJellyfish> i think you can put distro on usb drive, peppino
[08:28] <maddux> thanks for all who got me this far :)
[08:28] <theadmin> Guest70877: Some programs might use Python scripts to upgrade themselves.
[08:28] <chachie> if you want to install a dist to a usb drive try unetbootin
[08:29] <ghabit> Hello, how to reinstall new grub?
[08:29] <ghabit> The same as normal grub?
[08:30] <Guest70877> theadmin: Yeah but its showing constant data being sent at an average level of about 50-100 Kbs/s. Is that usual?
[08:30] <peppino> JumboJellyfish: is it possibile to redefine root with a directory...
[08:30] <ghabit> It reboots from me after 'grub loading'
[08:30] <chachie> does anyone know why typing //root in firefox displays the file system?
[08:30] <ghabit> Help me please
[08:30] <theadmin> Guest70877: Guess no, something's strange here.
[08:30] <chachie> you can define root to its own partition if you want
[08:30] <JumboJellyfish> peppino, i believe so but i dont know how to enable it
[08:31] <theadmin> chachie: It doesn't here.\
[08:31] <chachie> theadmin: you mean it doesnt do that if you do on yours?
[08:31] <theadmin> chachie: However, just typing in "/" does. Yes, it doesn't do this on my Firefox.
[08:31] <maddux> question: whats the best way to compare two installs, if on the good one i have command line and gui and bad one just command line?
[08:32] <Guest70877> theadmin: I check netstat every once in a while and this is the first time its showed this many established connections on this many ports
[08:32] <chachie> do you know why mine would? I never noticed this before then read something about it and tried
[08:32] <joebodo> Guest70877, do use use ubuntu one service ?
[08:32] <Guest70877> nope
[08:33] <chachie> theadmin: typing / in mine doesnt do anything
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> chachie, i tried in Firefox 3.6, Firefox (in wine) and Chromium -- none showed file system with //root
[08:33] <Guest70877> joebodo: nope
[08:33] <chachie> hmmm weird
[08:34] <iflema> eto in terminal cat /etc/lsb-release or desktop menu > system / about ubuntu
[08:34] <StuckMojo> is there an image suitable for putting on a usb drive?
[08:34] <papsh> StuckMojo, any. use unetbootin
[08:34] <Guest70877> How do I check these ports to see if the traffic is legit, and close the ports if it is not?
[08:34] <chachie> I second unet
[08:34] <eto> thx iflema
[08:34] <ghabit> Anyone? I have restarting netbook after 'grub loading'
[08:34] <ghabit> Help!
[08:34] <ghabit> )
[08:34] <Guest70877> How do I check these ports to see if the traffic is legit, and close the ports if it is not?
[08:35] <StuckMojo> thanks
[08:35] <chachie> guest try nmap
[08:35] <papsh> Guest70877, run an IDS, then use iptables to control traffic
[08:35] <chachie> nmap the IP you want with a -PN
[08:35] <chachie> basic scan
[08:35] <theadmin> !recoveringgrub | ghabit
[08:35] <jordan> bonjour
[08:35] <Guest70877> sorry guys i only talk noob
[08:35] <ghabit> !grub
[08:35] <ghabit> !grub2
[08:36] <papsh> Guest70877, then there's not much you can do except follow best practices
[08:36] <ghabit> theadmin: Thanks a lot.
[08:36] <chachie> Zykotick9: do you think there could be a script or something making this happen in FF?
[08:37] <Guest70877> no i mean what is nmap?
[08:37] <papsh> Guest70877, port scanner
[08:37] <chachie> apt-get install nmap
[08:37] <nawk> I just downloaded Cheese
[08:37] <nawk> but I need to install the driver for my Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam
[08:37] <nawk> i need help
[08:38] <nawk> which package should I look for
[08:38] <abhijit> hello everyone
[08:38] <theadmin> does anybody know what's all that with "X" being uppercase? Most commands are lowercase... X, VirtualBox and NetworkManager are only exceptions I know
[08:38] <theadmin> nawk: Go to manufacturer's site, they must have the drivers
[08:38] <papsh> theadmin, it was programmed by someone who didn't follow unix best practices
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[08:39] <ghabit> theadmin: I have BMPtoRGB command here for example )
[08:39] <ghabit> Don't know what is for.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> ghabit:  converts images
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> chachie, i have NO idea
[08:40] <chachie> K thanks
[08:40] <chachie> anyone else have any ideas why in my FF doing //root displays my file system?
[08:41] <andreii> cha-cha-cha
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  because thats a local filesystme url?
[08:41] <chachie> I am not sure never knew it would do that
[08:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: But on mine it doesn't do anything. However, typing in a normal fs adress such as "/home/r00t/Audio" does work.
[08:41] <chachie> others have tried here and theirs do not
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> try //media
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> it converts it to file://media here
[08:42] <andreii> it means that sites can access your filesystem from javascript
[08:42] <andreii> it's a big security issue
[08:42] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Hm, that worked.
[08:42] <chachie> andreii: how do i stop this ?
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> i recall several warnings befor any javascript was able to access local files last i tried it.
[08:42] <chachie> dr: worked for me as well
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> so its not really a security issue
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki makes use of the javascript/local file access features ive seen
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  coud be that //root is /root/ which has rescrited permissions
[08:44] <ZykoticK9> chachie, what Dr_Willis works for me too - but not //root
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> /root does not work here
[08:44] <chachie> Dr_Willis: /root also works on mine
[08:44] <StuckMojo> the regular desktop cd is a live cd as well, right?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> file:////root/  does not work here on mine
[08:45] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, yup
[08:45] <plustax__> hi
[08:45] <chachie> so this is nothing to worry about or it is? I would think it would be
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  its a feature
[08:46] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Hm, you're right. Say, typing in "/.htaccess" does nothing. It's 600, owned by root, so... well, thanks for explaining.
[08:46] <Guest70877> so i have nmap, what now?
[08:46] <chachie> so i can turn it off? if so how ?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> No idea about /root working for some but not others
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  disable javascript if you want to be paranoid. but not ANY javascript can just access local files
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki and other programs can make use of the feature
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
[08:47] <papsh> chachie, are you talking about general javascript security?
[08:47] <chachie> Dr_Willis: ok
[08:48] <chachie> papsh: i guess yes
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ther3 used to be these idiotic 'your system is hacked i can see your files.. with a url to ' file://c:/'  to scare people :)
[08:48] <papsh> chachie, noscript?
[08:48] <chachie> just never knew i could do that before and no matter how i type it in my broswser i get files
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  i use the thing to access html docs in my /usr/share/doc/whatever/html doc files
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> then bookmark them
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Your browser can access local files.. thats not really javascript doing anything
[08:49] <chachie> ahhh ok yeah it does seem nice to be able to use it but got scared me for a moment since i didnt know you could
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> how else could you load local html pages and stuff
[08:49] <chachie> true!
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  workd under windows also and proberly osx same way
[08:50] <chachie> lol the things I am always still learning like I can just click both mouse buttons in terminal to paste :P
[08:51] <genii> Or shift-insert
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  or middle click
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> mouse 1 + mouse2 = Mouse3 :)
[08:51] <chachie> I knew the shift but have no middle button
[08:51] <chachie> oh
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> old-skool stuff
[08:51] <christopherius> middle click is handy
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> back when mice did have 3 buttons and NO wheels
[08:52] <christopherius> and no laser mice
[08:52] <chachie> yeah maybe old school but even my teachers still right click and copy then right click and paste :P
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> thats the selection buffer. Not the same as the clipboard.
[08:52]  * genii scrapes the crud out of the rubber ball on his DB25 plu mouse
[08:52] <genii> *plug
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> chachie:  thats because thats how MS trained them
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> I had IR mice in the 1980's :)
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> they had to use special mice pads
[08:53] <chachie> got ya yeah I am new to the linux world 8 months no windows in my home
[08:53] <andreii> we all love ms.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Now the New Logitech mice can work on a Mirror.. :)
[08:53] <chachie> im just happy mine works on the carpet so i can use my 80" tv :P
[08:53] <kaki> exept me
[08:53] <kaki> i don't love MS
[08:54] <reto`> laser is nice... uses very little energy... compared to IR
[08:54] <WierdAAR> Hello, I can't unmount my external harddrive bcause an application is using it. Is there a way to find what application and then close it?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Dirty mouse balls :)
[08:54] <kaki> yes try monitor system $
[08:54] <kaki> and kill the process
[08:54] <chachie> i hate it when my mice get that way
[08:55] <WierdAAR> kaki, Monitor is not installed ( I use Xubuntu)
[08:55] <Krewl> Good morning people (Depending on your timezone offcourse
[08:55] <kaki> ahhhh ok
[08:55] <chachie> could anyone here point me to a good tutorial on full drive encryption without using the alternative install cd?
[08:55] <kaki> forgive me friend
[08:56] <reto`> WierdAAR: lsof can help
[08:56] <iflema> WierdAAR sudo fuser -m /dev/[whatever] will get you a PID then killit.... savy?
[08:56] <WierdAAR> reto`, lsof?
[08:56] <chachie> lsof -l
[08:56] <andreii> my system hangs after load average reahes 60 - help
[08:56] <reto`> WierdAAR: in terminal
[08:57] <andreii> i just see black screen
[08:57] <WierdAAR> reto`, I used media/name and then just kill number ?
[08:57] <andreii> even my music stops playing
[08:57] <andreii> what to do?
[08:57] <Krewl> Anyone here who has done trhe LPI ubuntu Exam and is willing to share some experiences on how the exam was? Going for it next Thuesday.
[08:58] <WierdAAR> iflema, , I used media/name and then just kill number ?
[08:58] <iflema> WierdAAR good i assumed cdrom....
[08:59] <WierdAAR> iflema, Ok, Thanks!
[08:59] <andreii> my system hangs after load average reahes 60 - help me pls
[08:59] <Sa[i]nT> I have an adhoc on my windows7 PC, and I want to be able to connect to it with my ubuntu laptop, is that even possible?
[09:00] <andreii> (16 core system)
[09:00] <loops> Sa[i]nT, i'm curious to know what an adhoc is?
[09:01] <mkanyicy> loops, its peer-to-peer wifi
[09:01] <Sa[i]nT> loops, Seriously?
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, just use the nm-applet in the panel
[09:01] <FloodBot2> Canika: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <maddux> question, a first thanks to all help so far.   What is the best way to get info from two installs, one fails on loadup - the video flaky, to get data to show why to one install (usb) is ok and where the corruption is on the bad installation?
[09:01] <loops> Sa[i]nT, i was serious, i still have never heard the term used as a noun
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <Canika> #GNAA @ IRC.HARDCHATS.COM - HARD CHATS, CHAT HARD
[09:01] <FloodBot2> Canika: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <JoshuaL> !emergency Canika
[09:02] <crisi-cuprobleme> stie cineva romana?
[09:03] <kaki> ok
[09:03] <kaki> to see
[09:03] <kaki> i gar go now
[09:03] <mkanyicy> loops, adhoc is the mode of wifi, other  modes are ap for 'access point' etc
[09:03] <loops> mkanyicy, i know what adhoc mode is :o)
[09:03] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah, adhocs are for making little intranets lol.
[09:04] <mkanyicy> loops, then what is your question?
[09:04] <Valetudo> morning all
[09:04]  * Dr_Willis downloads tha intranetz
[09:04] <loops> mkanyicy, my question is, what is an adhoc?
[09:04] <loops> mkanyicy, it's okay.. the moment has passed :o)
[09:04] <rabbi1> guys, need to register my nick, any help ?
[09:04] <IP-v6> what should be first line of a shell script for default ubuntu shell !#/usr/bin/sh or !#/usr/bin/bash
[09:04] <mkanyicy> loops, whatever, dude
[09:04] <loops> rabbi1, /msg nickserv help
[09:05] <rabbi1> thx loops
[09:05] <Valetudo> really stupid question... How do i install thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2 i oened up the archibve n theres just files in there... doesnt seem to be an exacutable... and the one in software manager isnt the latest so i want the one from the site.
[09:05] <IP-v6> sorry !#/bin/sh or !#/bin/bash
[09:05] <pyqt_2010_newbie> hi guys any one use python here?
[09:05] <wolfie1> does anyone know how can I connect to the internet through terminal??
[09:05] <wolfie1> o.o
[09:05] <shawnboy> Tomboy Notes claims to be able to export to HTML. Plugin shows enabled, but for life of me I cannot figure out how to do it.
[09:05] <rabbi1> loops, i am a newbie
[09:06] <mkanyicy> IP-v6, use bash if you want to script on BASH
[09:06] <loops> pyqt_2010_newbie, of course.. but #python would have even more :o)
[09:06] <AzikaCorp> @wolfie1 what do you mean by "connect"
[09:06] <Sacho> shawnboy: open a note, click tools, export to html
[09:06] <pyqt_2010_newbie> i cant login to #python idk why?
[09:06] <wolfie1> for example, use telnet, wget and lynx
[09:06] <loops> rabbi1, no worries, hope you get it working
[09:06] <wolfie1> I want to be online without the need of X server
[09:06] <pyqt_2010_newbie> can you try to connect to #python
[09:07] <Sacho> pyqt_2010_newbie: most likely your nick needs to be registered to join the channel
[09:07] <Sacho> for better IRC support you should join #freenode
[09:07] <reto`> Valetudo: it woould have to be compiled first I guess
[09:07] <AzikaCorp> it doesn't work for you ?
[09:07] <reto`> !compile > Valetudo
[09:07] <AzikaCorp> use w3m to navigate
[09:07] <shawnboy> Sacho: oh dang! I have no word menus and my Tools icon was greyed out (but works). Wow, I'd have never found that. Thanks.
[09:07] <rcg123> don't do it, that video link is not properly formated for the visually or gui impaired.
[09:07] <reto`> Valetudo: but better find a .deb package for it if possible
[09:08] <wolfie1> I dont know how to connect on terminal
[09:08] <Sa[i]nT> When I make an adhoc on the win7 machine, it shows up as crazy characters on the ubuntu side.
[09:08] <rabbi1> where shld i run /msg nickserv help ?
[09:08] <AzikaCorp> setting your IP adress and so one ?
[09:08] <wolfie1> I can be online, but as long as I have x server running, then I switch to ctrl alt f1 and do stuff there, but I want to be online without having to start the GUI
[09:08] <rcg123> EXIT
[09:09] <loops> rabbi1, just run it here, in your IRC client, in the same place you're typing stuff to this channel
[09:09] <wolfie1> I tried that iwconfig and is not working
[09:09] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, didn't you say you have adhoc wifi on Win7 already?
[09:09] <reto`> wolfie1: use a text browser... like elinks lynx or w3m
[09:09] <rabbi1> ok guys, pain to suggest window user ? :)
[09:09] <rcg123> whoops.  I sent a message to the wrong window lol.
[09:09] <wolfie1> yeah, I know reto, but the fact, is that if I log into terminal, it does not get online, seems like I need so tart a network daemon or something
[09:09] <loops> better than sending to wrong wife
[09:09] <AzikaCorp> alright. you use wap for encryption ?
[09:10] <wolfie1> Im not sure, but I can be online only while Im on my GUI
[09:10] <ghabit> How can I remove not needed items from grub2 menu?
[09:10] <rcg123> I'm actually stuck in terminal only at the moment, no X.
[09:10] <ghabit> I have old kernels, etc.
[09:10] <Valetudo> cheers reto but is there a DEB for the latest vertion out... surely it shud be in software manager
[09:10] <ghabit> Need only two items.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[09:10] <AzikaCorp> from the terminal, you are able to setting the network and surf
[09:10] <kane77> hey guys, are there any songbird deb packages available somewhere? (for 1.4 songbird)
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> ghabit:  remoive old kernels rerun update-grub
[09:10] <loops> ghabit, you can use Synaptic to remove old uneeded kernels, which should fixup grub for you too
[09:11] <wolfie1> and how do I set the network up?
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> kane77:  i think theres ppa repos
[09:11] <ghabit> Also I have there additional entrys for other OS's, I don't need them.
[09:11] <mkanyicy> when xorg.conf is not available, what is the way to configure X, then?
[09:11] <kane77> Dr_Willis, yes I found some ppa, but these were nightly builds
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | ghabit
[09:11] <loops> mkanyicy, you can use xrandr from the command line, one way
[09:12] <AzikaCorp> for example, if you are using WEP (don't use wep !!),  #iwconfig channel 6 essid "My-NETWORK" key yourkyewep
[09:12] <reto`> Valetudo: if it's not in the repo try searching the web for a .deb package... maybe debian testing has one or something
[09:12] <rabbi1> ﻿/msg nickserv register manju123a ajju.blr@gmail.com
[09:12] <phildini> Is someone available to answer a question about PPAs?
[09:12] <AzikaCorp> they, to get en ip adress : dhclient wlan0
[09:12] <mkanyicy> loops, ok, but what is the configuration file?
[09:12] <loops> rabbi1, damn.. everyone just saw that.
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> kane77:  i just use the packagtes from the homepage and extact them to my users home
[09:12] <reto`> wolfie1: wifi?
[09:13] <wolfie1> yeah, wifi
[09:13] <rabbi1> thts ok, wht a big deal ? :)
[09:13] <wolfie1> iwconfig doesnt seem to work
[09:13] <gmendoza> kane77, http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/9.10/?q=songbird
[09:13] <wolfie1> I type wlist scan
[09:13] <loops> rabbi1, no.. you really need to keep your password secret :o)
[09:13] <wolfie1> and notthing is detected
[09:13] <kane77> gmendoza, ooh, thanks!
[09:13] <rcg123> no hunter2 jokes lol.
[09:13] <rabbi1> is it registered now ?
[09:13] <AzikaCorp> being root ?
[09:14] <wolfie1> its like starting GUI is the only way to the system to recognize the wifi lans
[09:14] <loops> rabbi1, no, the message came to this channel instead of nickserv
[09:14] <wolfie1> yeah, I do all that with sudo
[09:14] <mefuntee> i dont knw how to convert with winff
[09:14] <reto`> wolfie1: hmm... not so easy... you would have to setup wifi from the cli
[09:14] <loops> rabbi1, if registration works you'll get a proper message from nickserv,
[09:14] <AzikaCorp> if you switch of your interface with : ifup wlan0
[09:14] <reto`> wolfie1: wicd seems to be  pretty good... maybe try that?
[09:15] <rcg123> I've seen tuts for CLI wifi.  I think i actually have a magazine article that goes through the common ways to do it.
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  read thew winff docs/guides?
[09:15] <wolfie1> lemme see x3
[09:15] <wolfie1> wicd
[09:15] <loops> mkanyicy, sorry slow.   In moder xorg setup there is often no config file at all.   Everything is dynamic, plug another mouse in, it should work etc.
[09:15] <loops> modern*
[09:16] <mefuntee> how do u keep ur pasword secret then?
[09:17] <wolfie1> humm
[09:17] <wolfie1> apt wants to uninstall network-mannager-gnome
[09:17] <crisi-cuprobleme> hi, I have  a problem I modifi the size of linux partition end now I'can boot with grub,
[09:17] <wolfie1> :S
[09:17] <wolfie1> when I try to install wicd
[09:17] <Sa[i]nT> Question, I can connect to my windows PC with ubuntu if I leave the adhoc I made with my windows machine exposed without a pass. Does that mean that ubuntu is not liking WPA?
[09:17] <mkanyicy> thanks loops, your input has been helpful
[09:18] <crisi-cuprobleme> hi, I have  a problem I modifi the size of linux partition end now I'can boot with grub
[09:18] <AzikaCorp> yu don't need to uninstall anything
[09:18] <mkanyicy> Sa[i]nT, no it does not mean that
[09:18] <Valetudo> cant find a deb package for the newer ones either :(
[09:18] <crisi-cuprobleme> wat I can do?
[09:19] <mefuntee> how do u keep ur pasword secret then?
[09:19] <Sa[i]nT> Is the JDK in the repo?
[09:19] <testelus> hi all.. im running eeebuntu.. and im woundering on how can i run a bash script once i have loged in.. "gui login". i need to start a script once login is done by gdm?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  its hanled by whatebver windowmanager/desktop you are using normally
[09:20] <mefuntee> am a total noob to irc, pls ow do u keep ur password secret while tryin to register?
[09:20] <Kamilion> type /query nickserv
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  use4 the server window or query
[09:20] <Kamilion> then type help in that window
[09:20] <AzikaCorp> testelus : just add it in your .bashrc
[09:21] <Sa[i]nT> Just type /ns identify password
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  what is the command supposed to do?
[09:21] <testelus> AzikaCorp, i dont want it in there,
[09:21] <testelus> .i want it to be run once gui login is used.
[09:21] <yoophglup> crisi what partion did you resize
[09:21] <Kamilion> Sa[i]nT: Not all clients have a /ns alias.
[09:21] <testelus> Dr_Willis, its a bash script
[09:21] <crisi-cuprobleme> linux
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  set Up the windowmanager/desktops auto run feature
[09:21] <crisi-cuprobleme> ex4
[09:21] <AzikaCorp> hoo, at login, sorry
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  well so? what IS it supposed to be doing?
[09:22] <crisi-cuprobleme> I erase swap partition
[09:22] <darolu> testelus: create a symbolic link inside /usr/bin and then add it to your start up programs
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  i dont even know what WM.DE eeebuntu uses. its not really a ubuntu disrto any more
[09:22] <yoophglup> you need to recreate the swap partion
[09:22] <testelus> darolu, ahh.. nice idea.. will try it out.
[09:23] <testelus> Dr_Willis, didnt know that.
[09:23] <mefuntee> pls can anybody help wt presets for converting avi to mp4 with ffmpeg?
[09:23] <crisi-cuprobleme> ok trhen grub wil run
[09:23] <testelus> Dr.strage they use bunut name tho
[09:23] <nomnex> can I have help with SUID, SGID, are these commands?
[09:23] <testelus> -erm
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  it USED to be based on ubuntu. now its based on debian
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  or so i read.
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  an avi can be a mp4 if its using the right codec
[09:24] <darolu> menfuntee: ffmpeg -y -i input.avi -b 768 -s 320x240 -vcodec xvid -ab 128 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 64 -f mp4 output.avi
[09:24] <testelus> well.. same shit.. :p ubuntu is also based on debian :)
[09:24] <yoophglup> it is possible
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  not really the same - keeps getting farther apart.. then they sorts of resync.. then start diverting..
[09:25] <yoophglup> otherwise i would just reinstall
[09:25] <maddux> question, is grub2 superior to grub or is it still being tested and growning pains?
[09:26] <testelus> Dr_Willis, yeah.. but ubuntu stil uses debians package system tho
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> maddux:  it has features grub1 does not,, and it will have more features as time goes on
[09:26] <darolu> maddux: although is still young/green; I think grub2 is better
[09:26] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: pls how do u mean by 'if u have the right codec'?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> testelus:  so? mandrake and RH use rpm's but that dosent mean much :)
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  avi are containers.. mp4 is a mpeg codec. you can have a avi thats an mp4 video
[09:27] <nomnex> -s to give an app suid? some input welcome, I don't get it
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> the mp4 extension mesna very little
[09:27] <maddux> thats good to hear, i will migrate this to grub 2...may fix my bootup to fuzzy video display
[09:27] <darolu> Dr_Willis: I think mandrake died few years ago... now is mandriva
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> darolu:  yep.
[09:27] <Seveas> nomnex, +s to giveth, -s to taketh away
[09:27] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: i think i have all the codecs cos i installed ubuntu restricted extras... are there other ones appart frm those?
[09:27] <testelus> indeeed
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  we are talking about the format of the video.
[09:27] <iflema> nick /tremmons
[09:27] <testelus> darolu, i get mail by thouse ppl every 2nd day to install ther crap :p
[09:27] <Seveas> darolu, not as much 'died' as 'merged with conectiva'
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  you can have a .avi file that is  a .mp4 file with a diffrent name
[09:28] <nomnex> Seveas, I am not clear with both command SUID/SGID can you explain?
[09:28] <rabbi1> loops ?
[09:28] <maddux> question:  is there a good utility that runs from command line that is a general fixer of some more serious problems of the system?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14
[09:28] <Seveas> nomnex, I can but this isn't a support channel :)
[09:28] <ghabit> i have lost my xp entry at grub, how to 'reset' grub settings? It have very complicated, not user-editable grub.d folder.
[09:28] <ghabit> Help me please.
[09:28] <darolu> Seveas: true that
[09:28] <Seveas> ghabit, try a brick. Or #ubuntu :)
[09:28] <nomnex> Seveas, #ubuntu not support channel?
[09:29] <Seveas> hey wtf? I thought I was somewhere else. Sorry
[09:29] <darolu> lol
[09:29] <mefuntee> im a noob but when i had any video converter in xp and i convert an avi in2 mp4, it compresses the file and retains the quality, id lilke somethin like that in ubuntu...
[09:29] <nomnex> Seveas, is there a IRC channel to ask about bash commands?
[09:29] <Valetudo> dont suppose any one can talk me through installing thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2?
[09:29] <Seveas> nomnex, ok: u+s == suid. That means that whoever runs the program runs it as the owner of the command
[09:29] <Seveas> g+s == setgid, same as above but primary group instead of owner
[09:29] <papsh> mefuntee, ffmpeg
[09:30] <darolu> mefuntee: the line I pasted delivers excellent quality
[09:30] <nomnex> Seveas, I see
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  you are confuseing the codec the video file is using with the extension
[09:30] <gmendoza> mefuntee, you'll want to also include the libavcodec-extra-52 from the medibuntu repo.  It has aac encoding support for ffmpeg... which was removed from the repo version of libavcodec-unstripped-52
[09:30] <papsh> mefuntee, ffmpeg with the -sameq option, actually
[09:30] <gmendoza> btw..
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  an 'avi' could be any of several dozen (hundered) of codec s
[09:30] <gmendoza> sorry to interupt...
[09:30] <Seveas> nomnex, so for instance sudo, which is u+s, is always run as root, no matter who runs it. That's why it can change your userid to whatever /etc/sudoers allows you to
[09:31] <rabbi1> how to get the <key> parameter to reset pass ?
[09:31] <darolu> mefuntee: think of "avi" as a bag, it can contain many different items; it is a container format, is similar to .zip actually.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  good info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_codecs_and_containers   also
[09:32] <ghabit> Anyone?
[09:32] <Seveas> ghabit, running update-grub should detect XP and put a relevant entry in the grub config. If it doesn't, your XP setup is likely broken
[09:32] <nomnex> Seveas, thank you
[09:32] <ghabit> How to add win xp entry to grub.
[09:32] <papsh> video codecs/contrainers/etc are not worth knowing too much about
[09:32] <Slart> ghabit: running sudo update-grub should do it
[09:32] <ghabit> Seveas: ty, I will try
[09:32] <darolu> ghabit: what version of grub do you have?
[09:32] <Seveas> darolu, he mentions grub.d, that's a grub2-only thing :)
[09:33] <darolu> Seveas: OK I didn't read the beginning of his thread.
[09:33] <burns> hello all
[09:33] <rabbi1> help required to change the pwd
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> mefuntee:  in theory divx, xvid,H.264 (MPEG-4 part 10)  should look about the same.. each has some of its own better/worse cases I guess
[09:33] <Seveas> papsh, well, it's nice to know how it works. Explains the  'some avis work and other don't, wtf?!?' questions we sometimes get :)
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> I find video codec/contianer info VERY VERY well worth knowing about
[09:34] <Slart> !details | rabbi1
[09:34] <darolu> rabbi1: sudo passwd user
[09:34] <rabbi1> i want to change my password
[09:34] <rabbi1> and the parameter required to change the password is <key>. so how do i get the key now ?
[09:35] <Seveas> rabbi1, system -> preferences -> about me
[09:35] <Slart> rabbi1: system, administration, users and groups
[09:35] <Seveas> then click the 'change password' button
[09:35] <SNIPER0215> Hello, all
[09:35] <rabbi1> seveas, sorry i meant here in IRC
[09:35] <Seveas> rabbi1, ah
[09:35] <Slart> rabbi1: or what Seveas said =)
[09:35] <Slart> !register | rabbi1
[09:36] <Valetudo> anyone available to help me?
[09:36] <mefuntee> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot though im going to have to study the links u sent me well...
[09:36] <rabbi1> ubottu, my nick name is registered here, would like to change the pwd
[09:36] <Slart> !ask | Valetudo
[09:36] <Seveas> rabbi1, /msg nickserv set password new_password_here
[09:36] <Slart> rabbi1: read the last 5 words of what ubottu said
[09:36] <Valetudo> lol i did before. but didnt get a message thought some1 missed it lol
[09:37] <Seveas> rabbi1, if that doesn't work, please ask in #freenode, this channel is for ubuntu support, not freenode support :)
[09:37] <perlmonkey> hello
[09:37] <Seveas> rabbi1, /msg nickserv help set password
[09:37] <Seveas> hi perlmonkey
[09:37] <perlmonkey> I'm having many problems >:-/
[09:37] <Slart> Valetudo: if noone answers it might just be because noone knows.. or you omitted some details.. you can always just repeat the question every 15 minutes or so
[09:37] <Valetudo> I have a firefox-3.6.tar.bz & thunderbird-3.0.1.tar.bz2 and i have no idea how to install them as im new to linux. there isnt a .deb out thier for either that i can find
[09:38] <mefuntee> darolu: thanks for the preset, i'll try it out and send u a heart when i get the result i desire...
[09:38] <Seveas> Valetudo, you throw them away and install the proper packages
[09:38] <Slart> Valetudo: if you're new to linux you might want to stick with the versions that are in the repositories
[09:38] <Valetudo> why the ones in the software center aint the latest.
[09:38] <perlmonkey> host and whois does not work on my server
[09:38] <Slart> Valetudo: but they work, and they are supported
[09:38] <darolu> Valetudo: if you are new to linux, you better download the binnaries
[09:39] <System-7> Hello there... I was just wondering, how can I (if I can at all) bridge two network adapters together to share a connection? I have some fair experience with Linux, so throwing me some terminal commands is just fine (though if there is a front-end I suppose it would be better overall)
[09:39] <Ascavasaion> hello there, what applications can I install that will automatically do virus protection like say Norton/Kaspersky/AVG, etc in Windows?  I am running Ubuntu 9.04.
[09:39] <System-7> Asca: You don't need it
[09:39] <Seveas> Valetudo, enable the correct ppa, see this tutorial for more details: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-stable-from-ubuntu-ppa.html
[09:39] <darolu> Valetudo: because Ubuntu developers have to add branding items, test and refine each package; to ensure they are stable and that they'll work with every hardware configuration.
[09:39] <Slart> Ascavasaion: there's clamav.. and some commercial anti-virus packages available.. but usually you don't need it for the linux system itself
[09:40] <System-7> As long as you're not running root you will be fine
[09:40] <Ascavasaion> Okay, thank you System-7 and Slart
[09:40] <perlmonkey> Linux is like species 8473 impervous to all technological viruses
[09:40] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, you can install clamav if you want
[09:40] <darolu> Ascavasaion: running an antivirus in Linux is just as useful as planting a palmtree in the Artic
[09:40] <christopherius> lol
[09:41] <Seveas> darolu, well, it won't take long until we see more proper linux viruses. Best to get used to needing antivirus :)
[09:41] <SNIPER0215> http://www.pornhub.com
[09:41] <Seveas> !ops | SNIPER0215
 what you mean by share? You want computers in network go to internet via your pc?
[09:41] <Ascavasaion> and what does one use to protect again malicious links in mails, on webpages, etc.?
[09:41] <perlmonkey> only borg nanobots can harm linux
[09:41] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, firefox with its built-in phishing detection
[09:41] <Slart> Ascavasaion: common sense can get you out of a lot of trouble..regardless of system
[09:41] <darolu> Seveas: there are many malware/trojans for Linux, but a virus per se... none that I am aware =))
[09:41] <SNIPER0215> That's what bridged connections are for.
[09:41] <Ascavasaion> Okay
[09:42] <darolu> worms** not malware
[09:42] <Slart> Ascavasaion: usually that stuff is targeted at other platforms
[09:42] <Ascavasaion> Slart: Just that some of my Facebook contacts received malicious URLs from my account in Facebook.
[09:42] <rabbi1> seveas, thx problems solved
[09:42] <Seveas> Ascavasaion, facebook apps are a whole different ballgame. Don't use facebook apps :)
[09:42] <System-7> Basically, I have this set up in Win on a netbook, bridging my wireless adapter to my ethernet, then another computer connects through that... of course, I miss running Linux on the netbook, so I was wondering if I could avoid Windows altogether and do the bridge in Ubuntu
[09:43] <kaddi_> Ascavasaion: you may want to change your passwords then
[09:43] <darolu> Ascavasaion: I use a very long blacklist of malicious websites, you only need to edit your /etc/hosts file: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.txt
[09:43] <Ascavasaion> Seveas: I never do.
[09:43] <Ascavasaion> kaddi_: I changed them :)
[09:43] <Slart> Ascavasaion: not sure how facebook does its thing.. but keep your browser updated and you should be fine
[09:43] <darolu> Ascavasaion: it blocks pretty much all ads too :)
[09:43] <papsh> most common attack vector is the browser
 yea you can man route and if you want firewall as well the man iptables
[09:44] <kaddi_> and especially the plugins such as flash, shockwave, java and so on... it's not so much the browser itself anymore
[09:46] <mefuntee> darolu: do it means there are security in ubuntu if there are worms...?
[09:47] <perlmonkey> i'm having major probs since changing my router >:-/ can anyone help diagnose the problem... I have 3 problems appear actually..first one, I can't use whois or host in shell, just doesn't respond..some kind of DNS lookup failure I'm thinking? second.. in syslog, my router IP is being appended to all hostnames for mail connections etc, possibly related to first prob? and finally, domain names are taking an AGE to resolve
[09:47] <System-7> oh hey thanks kohar, I'm looking that up now (hopefully it will work)
[09:47] <profesja> witam
[09:47] <profesja> co u was
[09:47] <mefuntee> darolu: do it means there are security laspes in ubuntu if there are worms...?
[09:47] <profesja> jak mija sobota
[09:47] <profesja> witaj muhammed
[09:47] <Tm_T> !pl | profesja
[09:47] <papsh> perlmonkey, use a diff dns server?
[09:47] <profesja> fuck off all
[09:47] <papsh> perlmonkey, try 8.8.8.8
[09:47] <mefuntee> darolu: does it mean we HVAE to use an antivirus?
[09:47] <perlmonkey> :-/ will try
[09:47] <profesja> fuck of and die
 also check ubuntuforums there was how to
[09:48] <darolu> mefuntee: no, don't worry
[09:48] <perlmonkey> profesja has aggression/anger issues
[09:48] <System-7> Yeah I'm on the community site right now reading about it :)
[09:48] <profesja> welcome
[09:48] <papsh> mefuntee, no. few people write linux client malware
[09:48] <profesja> i'm come back
[09:48] <Kaiser1986> who can i speak to regarding a problem with Wifi on UBN 9.10?
[09:49] <rob_p> !language > profesja
[09:49] <profesja> are you happy
[09:49] <seraph> kaiser need help?
[09:49] <mefuntee> darolu: u got me scared...
[09:49] <darolu> mefuntee: worms are usually a internal network issue, it is hard for them to spread due UNIX systems' structure; you have to access root password to install anything; you are safe don't worry
[09:49] <Kaiser1986> I would appreciate yes
[09:49] <profesja> i'm fucking sorry
[09:49] <profesja> please
[09:49] <seraph> so... tell me ur problem..
[09:49] <perlmonkey> stop that bad language you angry person
[09:49] <papsh> darolu, root password means nothing, if they're on the system they can do whatever they want
[09:49] <Slart> perlmonkey: leave it to the ops..
[09:49] <darolu> mefuntee: just use common sense and be careful about what you do when you run "sudo"
[09:49] <viaduk> just testng
[09:49] <viaduk> works perfectly
[09:49]  * perlmonkey hides
[09:49] <Kaiser1986> OK, I installed UBN 9.10 yd on my Compaq Mini 700
[09:50] <Kaiser1986> and managed to install the Broadcom B43 Wirless Driver
[09:50] <papsh> darolu, and even non-root can install and run hardware
[09:50] <Kaiser1986> and It's showing as Active and in use
[09:50] <papsh> errr software
[09:50] <darolu> papsh: they can be in the system but with no root access they can't harm much imo; if you mean physical access... then yes you're screwed lol
[09:50] <mefuntee> darolu: cant the worm gain access when i login as root to install somethin that i got frm the internet... and not frm the repositories?
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> I thought the B43 drivers got superceded by some other drivers (bcm?)
[09:51] <Kaiser1986> but I cannot get it to detect any wifi signals
[09:51] <mefuntee> darolu: thanks but it pays sometime to knw the possibilities...
[09:51] <darolu> mefuntee: no, don't worry
[09:51] <papsh> darolu, local privilege escalation is easier than remote exploitation
[09:51] <Slart> mefuntee: if you install infected binaries/source from the wild internet.. then yes.. you're owned
[09:51] <seraph> kaiser1986: try to go in applications -> accessories -> Terminal and then try with sudo pppoeconf
[09:51] <Slart> mefuntee: that's one of the reasons for using the repositories
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  you may want to check the netbook forum threads for that netbook. It may be you dont want to use the ones from the rest4icted dr5ivers tool
[09:51] <darolu> papsh: indeed
[09:51] <System-7> That's what repos are for :D
[09:52] <papsh> expecting the default unix permissions system to protect you is naive
[09:52] <mefuntee> slart: owned? then how can i check my status, or gregain my freedom?
[09:52] <andrewfree> quick question, I'm using proftpd and trying to change config so root can login I read this http://www.proftpd.org/docs/directives/linked/config_ref_RootLogin.html and added RootLogin at the end of the config file then restarted the server and it still wont login
[09:52] <papsh> Slart, unless the repo servers are owned themselves
[09:52] <seraph> who needs help?
[09:53] <Slart> mefuntee: you'll sleep much better if you just assume your system will get burned, crashed, owned eventually.. prepare for it.. make regular backups.. make sure you have install media etc
[09:53] <manu_> good morning
[09:53] <ope> me
[09:53] <andrewfree> seraph: meh
[09:53] <manu_> seraph,
[09:53] <manu_> me :)
[09:53] <Malmis> hm does someone know if there is possible to pxe boot ie. debian live cd or ubuntu live cd as persistent when booting it from a nfs server? i mean, how could i access ie. casper-rw persistant filesystem when the livecd is mounted as cdrom? :/
[09:53] <Malmis> i can boot it as a live cd from nfs, but not accessing casper-rw
[09:53] <System-7> For some reason I love the whole repository thing... first time I saw a site telling me to type "sudo apt-get install ..." I was like "WhaT?"
[09:53] <Slart> mefuntee: that will let you handle anything from hardware failures, software failures, viruses.. your own mistakes and so on
[09:53] <mefuntee> slart: how consoling, especially to pple coming frm the world of 'windows'...
[09:54] <Slart> mefuntee: there are some apps that can check the system.. rkhunter is one of those
[09:54] <papsh> Slart, those things rarely work
[09:54] <Slart> mefuntee: I didn't say anything about which os you're supposed to run
[09:54] <papsh> there's really nothing effective anyone can do against rootkits
[09:55] <Slart> mefuntee: it's the same if you're running windows, linux, bsd or whatever.. sooner or later something will break.. be prepared for it and you'll be up and running within a couple of hours
[09:55] <papsh> once they're installed, that is
[09:55] <ardchoille> papsh: Excpet run rootkit scanners and watch what you install
[09:55] <ardchoille> papsh: yeah
[09:55] <papsh> rootkit scanners are a waste of time
[09:55] <mefuntee> slart: dont get me wrng, i mean it doent give much confidence to those migrating frm d windows platforms simply for the sake of securtiy
[09:55] <maddux> how is the strongest way to make ubuntu most thououghly seek out broken links or missing things?  some are not all updated.
[09:55] <System-7> Yeah, but Linux isn't as fool-proofed as Win
[09:55] <Dil3mm4> who's the founder of this channel?
[09:55] <syrius> !version
[09:55] <Slart> not sure rootkit scanners are reliable in these days of virtualization and such
[09:55] <researcher11> How to enable Java  Script  in mozilla firefox
[09:56] <syrius> does this work in all debian based distros? lsb_release -a
[09:56] <papsh> virtualization is the biggest security disaster since ie 6
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  what makes you think its disabled?
[09:56] <ardchoille> researcher11: it should already be enabled
[09:56] <Kaiser1986> still nothing here
[09:56] <cryptk> is there a way to disable Macintosh Mouse Button Emulation?
[09:56] <cryptk> I think it is interfering with my actual mouse
[09:57] <researcher11> Login link on http://www.aicte-india.org/ , last bottom green click not working Hence
[09:57] <Dil3mm4> kaiser are u sure that ur wifi hardware runs?
[09:57] <Slart> mefuntee: computers aren't reliable.. you can work around the clock for the rest of your life and still not have a 100% secure, safe system.. but you can spend a couple of hours to make sure you don't lose all your stuff when/if something bad happens
[09:57] <Ascavasaion> Thank you all.
[09:57] <Sacho> Computers are very reliable.
[09:58] <Sacho> People using computers are not.
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  try some other pages  perhaps you have noscript installed
[09:58] <Kaiser1986> yep, I mean when I load WinXP, wifi works fine
[09:58] <System-7> Computers are too flimsy today though
[09:58]  * Dr_Willis goes back to his C64
[09:58] <researcher11> Dr_Willis: can u let me know exactly what to do now?
[09:58] <System-7> My one modern laptop lasted about 2 years tops
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  check your plugins - see if you got it disabled or somthing. It IS enabled by default
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  or your settings
[09:59] <System-7> Now, my 1994 Performa is still kicking after 15+ years of continuos use
[09:59] <rabbi1> sorry ppl for the trouble, but i am ok with my IRC now :) thanks a lot again for patient
[09:59] <System-7> And then there's my Apple II
  did you install STA driver?
[09:59] <Slart> mefuntee: but this is getting more philosophical than technical now... you'll be better of, security wise, with a linux system than a windows system if you ask me.. just keep it updated.. use common sense.. and don't believe everything you read/hear on the internet  and you'll be fine
[09:59] <rabbi1> ﻿The pole caps are melting, the penguins are going into the computers,  the apples are falling from the trees and the glass in the windows is  shattering!
[09:59] <rabbi1> i got this in a blog
[10:00] <perlmonkey> whois and host don't work in my shell
[10:00] <researcher11> which plugin to be enabled
[10:00] <shelby> Hello. Grub-update does not create entry for windows xp
[10:00] <shelby> Help me please
[10:00] <Slart> mefuntee: and make backups..
[10:00] <System-7> I think the ice caps are actually growing
[10:00] <bolen> mbank
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  'noscript' disables java scripting i recall. ther may be others
[10:00] <Ascavasaion> System-7: You have an old apple II still?
[10:00] <rabbi1> sys7, which destro u user?
[10:00] <mefuntee> slart: thanks partner...good to hear those reassuring words again...
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> shelby:   you mean 'update-grub' ?
[10:00] <Kaiser1986> I have the broadcom b43 wireless driver installed and active
[10:00] <researcher11> so how do I undo the effect of noscript?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  b43 i think is the OLD driver. that may not work
[10:01] <researcher11> The site requirements are here http://www.aicte-india.org/siterequirements.html
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  IF you have it installed.. you can  whitelist some sites to allow scripting on those and not others
[10:01] <Kaiser1986> ok, so what should I install?
[10:01] <shelby> Dr_Willis, I have updated gru by 'sudo update-grub'
 work fine with bcm 4312 =)
[10:01] <denis123> Hi. I need to reinstall Ubuntu due to some problems with a bad install of a graphic card driver. What's the easiest way to do this. If I put the CD in and install in the same partition that I had it previously, will that work (and will it use the old swap space) or do I need to format the old Ubuntu partition via my secondary Windows install then install?
[10:01] <shelby> And It cannot find for me XP enty
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> Kaiser1986:  i would say check the forum poages for that netbook and see what they suggest
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> kohar:  they dont work with some netbooks i recall.
[10:02] <shelby> How to add it?
[10:02] <researcher11> Im quite new so dont know whats whitelist
[10:02] <Ascavasaion> We worked on Apple II computers in umm.. 1986 :)
 i see
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  #1 - check to see IF you even have noscript installed
[10:02] <papsh> they had computers in the 80's?
[10:02] <researcher11> how to check if noscript is installed
[10:02] <System-7> http://www.hawkinsroad.com/HNI_031.JPG
[10:03] <papsh> researcher11, Tools->plugins
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  explore your fiorefox extensions/plugins
[10:03] <System-7> http://www.hawkinsroad.com/HNI_0031.JPG
[10:03] <System-7> oops
[10:03] <researcher11> ok
[10:03] <shelby> anyone?
[10:03] <shelby> !grub2
 you can format during install process and yes it's gonna use old swap partition
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> I do belive the noscript extension adds an icon at the bottom right of the firefox status bar
[10:04] <System-7> Stupid cold killed my 5'' floppy drive, had to order a new on on ebay :/
[10:04] <rabbi1> guys, i still use Ubuntu, actually started, shld i go for Karmic, hws Karmic, i felt like digging some thing in hardy and then after few days to go to Karmic, am i right
[10:04] <papsh> System-7, you needed a 5.25 floppy?
[10:04] <denis123> kohar: Thanks for reply. Just to confirm. So I have my Ext4 partition currently used by Ubuntu. If I point the CD to install there (and which mount point do I use? Just / or /home?) it will format then install?
[10:04] <rabbi1> ppl still use flopped floppy ?
[10:04] <researcher11> noscript is not installed
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  may as well use 9.10 if yiu are starting from new
[10:04] <System-7> Not people, just me probably :)
[10:04] <perlmonkey> whois bbc.co.uk = getaddrinfo(whois.nic.uk): Name or service not known
[10:04] <perlmonkey> :-/
[10:04] <rabbi1> Dr_willis, u from google?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  have you tested other sites to see if javascript work on them?
[10:05] <researcher11> no
[10:05] <papsh> System-7, there are higher capability storage mediums available today
[10:05] <System-7> lol
[10:05] <rabbi1> s, would like to learns lots in Linux, so which would help?
[10:05] <papsh> or so I hear
[10:05] <papsh> rabbi1, ubuntu
[10:05] <researcher11> this link shows site requirement http://www.aicte-india.org/siterequirements.html
[10:05] <darolu> I sometimes use my floppy drive too, is a 3 1/2" though; I haven't used a 5 1/4" one in like 20 years
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> http://www.quackit.com/javascript/examples/
[10:06] <jugglerbry> morning all
[10:06] <researcher11> Am I expecting right results oor is IE7 a must?
[10:06] <jugglerbry> have a bit of an odd problem going  on with upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic upgrade via Update Manager, same thing happens.  All seems ok, except both keyboard and mouse are 100% unresponsive.  Any ideas ?
 if you have 1 partition ext4 then mount point / if you have 2 ext4 then you can use 1 for / other for /home, for format partition when installer ask you where to install choice custom
[10:06] <rabbi1> papsh, i am using hardy, jus started shld i switch to Karmic ?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  lots of reading -> learning linuix
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> rabbi1:  lots of using linux -> learning linux
[10:06] <ardchoille> researcher11: I haven't used anything but Firefox inyears
[10:06] <Seveas> rabbi1, yeah
[10:06] <denis123> kohar: ok awesome. Will do that. Thanks for your help!
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> researcher11:  no idea. Try a diffrent browser such as Opera or google chrome perhaps as a test
[10:06] <rabbi1> so, started already, fixed my resolution problem,
[10:06] <denis123> cya
[10:06] <papsh> rabbi1, hardy is long term support, so you could technically stay with it.
[10:06] <System-7> The one in the pic is a 3.5... it sucks that its such a pain to get software on those things aside from actually finding old disks
[10:06] <researcher11> ok
[10:06] <zvacet> I´m using lxde and I changes desktop setting so I´m not able to paste anything to desktop how can I revert desktop setting to default
[10:07] <researcher11> let me try
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont even recall what LXDE uses for the 'desktop' there is the #lubuntu channel  they use lxde
[10:08] <System-7> I sort of collect a lot of old Apple stuff, System 7 era Macs, Newtons, printers, etc
[10:08] <jugglerbry> anyone?
[10:08] <System-7> heck somebody hacked together Debian for 68k
[10:08] <researcher11> can  Opera or google chrome work in ubuntu 9.10?
[10:08] <papsh> System-7, you must be single
[10:08] <darolu> Apple printer?
[10:08] <papsh> System-7, or have a very understanding wife/girlfriend
[10:09] <System-7> no I'm single :)
[10:09] <jugglerbry> researcher : yes. i;ve tried both of those
[10:09] <System-7> :'(
[10:09] <Krewl> Anyone here who has done the LPI ubuntu Exam and is willing to share some experiences on how the exam was? Going for it next Thuesday.
[10:09] <researcher11> how to install  Opera or google chrome?
[10:09] <mefuntee> researcher11: yes they do
[10:09] <shelby> Ppl, help with xp entry in grub2
[10:09] <mefuntee> researcher11: i have them both opened now...
[10:09] <shelby> grup-update does not find it.
[10:09] <papsh> System-7, you will one day be presented with a choice of your old computer crap or a woman. take it from your elder: stick with the computer crap
[10:10] <researcher11>  how to install  Opera or google chrome in Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:10] <System-7> Thanks for the advice ;)
[10:10] <jugglerbry> I just went to the relevant websites in firefox, and if i remember correctly, click the link for relevant distro
[10:10] <Myrtti> Krewl: perhaps you could ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:10] <zvacet> researcher11 : install it from http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[10:10] <Slart> !opera | researcher11
[10:10] <darolu> researcher11: both have ubuntu packages at their respective websites.
[10:10] <Slart> !chrome  | researcher11
[10:10] <Slart> bah..
[10:10] <Krewl> Myrtti, Will have a look
[10:10] <mefuntee> researcher11: why not google them and choose your platform...
[10:10] <jugglerbry> have a bit of an odd problem going  on with upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic upgrade via Update Manager, same thing happens.  All seems ok, except both keyboard and mouse are 100% unresponsive.  Any ideas ?
[10:10] <Slart> !chromium | researcher11
[10:11] <darolu> researcher11: I recommend Chromium though, for some reason Chrome doesn't work fine in my computers, colours in my themes are all messed up
[10:12] <darolu> jugglerbry: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:12] <zvacet> Dr_Willis : tnx for pointer
[10:13] <al_> when I try to run "sudo wine regedit.exe" I get "wine: /home/al/.wine is not owned by you
[10:13] <al_> help pls
[10:13] <Slart> al_: don't run wine as root
[10:13] <Kaiser1986> guys thanks, it's working like a charm
[10:13] <wertik_rus> without sudo
[10:14] <al_> hmmm
[10:14] <vega> hah, right-click on usb stick in nautilus gives "eject, unmount, safely remove" ... so which one to choose? i suppose this is the "usability" stuff in gnome
[10:14] <al_> that produces a few lines of errors like err:module:import_dll Library AUTHZ.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\al\\regedit.exe") not found
[10:14] <fez> hi
[10:14] <mefuntee> vega; u can use any but i prefer unmount which usually apeears first in the list...
[10:14] <Slart> vega: I'm not 100% sure.. but I think eject actually ejects CD drives and such.. unmount just .. well.. unmounts it.. safely remove I have no idea.. it unmounts it.. possibly something else as well
[10:15] <bullgard> [Karmic] How to switch my IBM Thinkpad T43 to numerical key pad? Shift+ScrollLock does not do the job. Neither Fn+ScrollLock.
[10:15] <System-7> hey, kohar, thanks :) Seems to be working
[10:15] <Slart> bullgard: isn't there a num lock key somewhere?
[10:16] <vega> yeah, would be surprised if eject actually popped out the usb stick on the floor..i know what they all mean but why oh why three choises, these are things that confuse the average user coming from windows
[10:17] <perlmonkey> host virginmedia.com;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[10:17] <perlmonkey> why?
[10:17] <vega> they don't know what "unmount" means, also eject shouldn't be visible at all for a usb stick
[10:17] <bullgard> Slart: There is. But pressing it does not have any effect.
[10:17] <vega> choices
[10:17] <jugglerbry> darolou:cant because kb and mouse are unresopnsive.  install or upgrade appear to go well, but after rebooting no reponse
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[10:18] <wertik_rus> perlmonkey, fire /etc/resolv.conf have dns which don't working
[10:18] <Slart> bullgard: hm... then I don't know, sorry
[10:18] <Brileigh> bullgard: hm... then I don't know, sorry
[10:18] <bullgard> Slart: Thank you.
[10:19] <perlmonkey> wertik_rus I think they
[10:19] <perlmonkey> are ok
[10:20] <perlmonkey> wertik_rus I managed to solve the problem but thank you for replying
[10:21] <wertik_rus> )
[10:22] <sebsebseb> Hi
[10:22] <jugglerbry> anyone know anything about usb devices in Sun VirtualMAchine ?  (sun version not the one from Ubuntu repositories)
[10:22] <padhu> wertik_rus: use openDNS IPS (208.67.220.220, 208.67.200.200) or Google DNS IPS (8.8.8.8)
[10:22] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: they do in #vbox
[10:23] <perlmonkey> why should we use those DNS
[10:23] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: also the manual you can download from the site/webserver does
[10:23] <jugglerbry> sebsebseb:thanks for that, i'll give it a try :)
[10:23] <perlmonkey> why not our ISPs, isn't it bad using Google for DNS they know then every site we access?
[10:23] <wertik_rus> padhu, I have't problem with dns servers )
[10:23] <padhu> jugglerbry: Me too. Any idea to install it in ubuntu?
[10:24] <perlmonkey> do you guys drink coffee or the tea stuff
[10:24] <sebsebseb> jugglerbry: ok np
[10:24] <sebsebseb> !ot | perlmonkey
[10:24] <perlmonkey> :-{}
[10:24] <padhu> wertik_rus: oh
[10:25] <jugglerbry> padhu:installing the vbox isnt a problem, but just cant get usb devices to work
[10:25] <darolu> jugglerbry: you did enable USB on your VM right?
[10:27] <alabd> How to make vpn does not affect on others app connection and to be just for browser ?
[10:27] <robbit10> Hello people. I'm having trouble booting from CD on a Sony VAIO. The boot order is set right, but it just doesn't detect the CD, and in Windows it shows it as empty, while on my Mac it shows the ubuntu cd stuff. Can anyone help me with this please?
[10:27] <jugglerbry> darlou:yup, enabled in settings, and also member of vbox users group
[10:28] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Still got the ISO?
[10:28] <_raven_> i need a midi sequenzer for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:28] <mefuntee> jugglerbry: just click on settings before loading the operating system and enable usb there...
[10:28] <mefuntee> jugglerbry: ...i think
[10:28] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Or your using an offical CD?
[10:29] <mefuntee> jugglerbry:...do u have guest additions installed?
[10:30] <jugglerbry> mefuntee:theyre showing as enabled in the guest OS, just not working
[10:30] <arjun> help - usb pen drive not getting detected
[10:30] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Yes, I still have the ISO.
[10:30] <darolu> jugglerbry: what's the content of your /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh file?
[10:31] <arjun> ?
[10:31] <_raven_> i need a midi sequenzer for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:31] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok check it, make sure it's a good ISO,  then burn it a bit slower to a CD, burn the image a bit slower, and try that
[10:31] <sebsebseb> !mdtsum | robbit10
[10:31] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | robbit10
[10:31] <sebsebseb> robbit10: once you have done that, you can also run the disk check on the CD, which checks for errors
[10:32] <arjun> help usb pen drive not getting detected
[10:32] <sebsebseb> robbit10: if that pass's your psyical CD is ok
[10:32] <darolu> jugglerbry: you can try this http://stikiflem.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/enable-usb-support-in-virtualbox/
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: ... the ISO doesn't have an MD5 sum?!
[10:33] <_raven_> i need a MIDI SEQUENZER for simple midi recordings (without jack) - any ideas?
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay, broken ISO right there.
[10:33] <arjun> :-(
[10:33] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yes it does
[10:33] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I mean my copy doesn't.
[10:34] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Your in Windows? If so you need a md5sum  program to get the code
[10:34] <sebsebseb> robbit10: then compare to what  they provide on website
[10:34] <sebsebseb> !ops | Valonia
[10:34] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I'm on Mac OS X
[10:34] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: :)
[10:35] <Seveas> _raven_, timidity
[10:35] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok well you can use a md5sum program on Mac OS X. I don't use OS X, but I think it's probaby like Linux distros when it comes to checking ISO's
[10:36] <sebsebseb> robbit10: meaning you  can probably do it in the shell/terminal/konsole/command prompt (whatever you want to call it)
[10:36] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I used Disk Utility but it gave an error message saying the ISO has no md5 sum to check.
[10:36] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Which indicates that I have a seriously broken copy.
[10:36] <sebsebseb> robbit10: sometimes you need to tell these programs, what md5sum to compare to
[10:36] <Seveas> robbit10, no, just that you don't have the md5sum of the file. Just use the md5sum command in a terminal
[10:37] <syrius> how do I add a startup app from the commandline?
[10:37] <spye_ware> supp
[10:37] <robbit10> Seveas: Okay, thanks :)
[10:37] <sebsebseb> Seveas: :)  yep that's what I was on about,  and I assumed that could also be done on OS X
[10:37] <robbit10> !md5 > robbit10
[10:37] <Seveas> sebsebseb, I guess so. It has a terminal with a bsd-based-ish userland. Wouldn't be surprised if it has an md5sum command :)
[10:37] <phox_> Hi! How do i add a new theme in 9.1? When i go system-preferences-apperance, i dont see any buttom that says "custom", or "add" or something like that.
[10:38] <_raven_> Seveas, but timidity has no timeline...?
[10:38] <Kankiler-101486> la mallar ne yapýyonuz siz burada
[10:38] <syrius> startup applications uses cron?
[10:38] <spye_ware> dont know
[10:39] <Seveas> _raven_, you said sequencer, not editor/visualizatio thing :)
[10:39] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ah, thanks :). The MD5 sum is okay.
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But the Sony VAIO laptop still won't boot it.
[10:40] <spye_ware> ooi i cant get backtrack 4 to work need help i type in aircrack-ng nothin happen
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: burn a new CD and slower
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But my Mac DOES boot it.
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: make sure your burning  the image contents also
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: not the ISO itself to CD
[10:40] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: hey, are you busy?
[10:40] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I've burnt the contents of the ISO, at an extra-slow speed. Still, it will not boot on that laptop, but on my Mac it does boot.
[10:40] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: if not you can me help me out
[10:40] <sebsebseb> robbit10: maybe for some reason it's burning oddly since your doing it on a Mac
[10:41] <robbit10> sebsebseb: That's why I tried it on the same laptop as well. Didn't work out. Still doesn't boot
[10:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok
[10:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: it seems that some computers Ubuntu won't boot on
[10:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But, last year I tried booting a live CD on it as well, and that one DID work.
[10:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: also there are other ways you can try installing Ubuntu without a CD
[10:42] <_raven_> Seveas, ok i need any simple midi recording thing - like rosegarden but smaller, simpler and without jack....
[10:42] <sebsebseb> !install | robbit10
[10:42] <sebsebseb> !usb
[10:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I don't have permission to install, i borrowed the laptop - but I want to try the LiveCD
[10:42] <rumpsy> hey, i got this message from terminal, "The following packages have been kept back:"
[10:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Why?
[10:42] <kohar> syrius look at /etc/rc.d/
[10:42] <rumpsy> i donno what it meant?
[10:43] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Try a Live USB then,  or another distro maybe?
[10:43] <syrius> how do I add to that kohar ?
[10:43] <Mowee> Hi, since I updated from the last version of Firefix, I can't launch it :[
[10:43] <robbit10> sebsebseb: To check if all hardware works fine, until my parents decide whether they want to give me the laptop or not.
[10:43] <Mowee> Firefox*
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to update them
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Mowee:  updated how exactly?
[10:43] <Mowee> apt-get update
[10:43] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: oh, its for dist-upgrade?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  some packatges are more imporntant then others. and can get held back
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  if you want to update them do that command
[10:44] <__doc__> hey I need some help *disabling* cursor control for my mouse by the wacom tablet (since GIMPs window relative handling works), I looked at my xorg.conf and wacom's not configured there, I also tried to change the path to my mouse driver (to the one that doesn't get wacom events, /dev/input/Mouse1, to no avail)
[10:44] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i'm having 8.04, if i did that upgrade, what will i have
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  no idea.
[10:45] <__doc__> (this is 9.10)
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  use the -v option (i think) to see what it will do
[10:45] <kohar> syrius ou can simple add to /etc/rc.local command wich you need start up when you boot
[10:45] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: okay, wait i'll see that
[10:45] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I tried booting an old Ubuntu CD on that laptop, which usually works on all the other PC's. But no go, it still skips right to Windows. And the BIOS settings don't help either.
[10:45] <Pure> Hey
[10:45] <robbit10> sebsebseb: So it's not an ISO issue.
[10:45]  * rothsdad Happy Spring Festival~ Good luck to ubuntu~
[10:46] <Pure> Does server take less space than client?
[10:46] <sebsebseb> rothsdad: Spring Festival?????
[10:46] <sebsebseb> rothsdad: ok it's an issue with Ubuntu itself then it seems
[10:46] <sebsebseb> whoops wrong one ah
[10:46] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you could try another distro
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  proberly does a little bit.
[10:46] <Pure> I don't think I'll need to install client
[10:47] <Pure> I'm planning on SSHing to it only
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: what server/what client
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  i always use desktop for my home servers anyway
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: either can be as big/little as you make them
[10:47] <Pure> Ubuntu
[10:47] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: its not correct option, its says something about current dpkg status
[10:47] <ikonia> Pure: ok - the desktop and the server installs can be made as big or as little as you want
[10:47] <_raven_> Seveas,
[10:47] <Pure> How so?
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: you can put/remove as many packages as you want
[10:48] <HektoR> hi all. guys i'm configuing vmware server 2.0 on ubuntu and i'm getting this error -> "Unable to build the vmmon module." can anyone help to fix this ?
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: they are based on the same core OS, so you can put as much or as little on either asyou want
[10:48] <Pure> But, if I only plan to SSH to it, can I do away with clients features?
[10:48] <ikonia> HektoR: try with #vmware
[10:48] <sebsebseb> HektoR: it seems that not that many people use VMware products on Ubuntu,  anyway I expect #vmware could help you
[10:48] <ikonia> Pure: just remove the desktop from the desktop install and it will be fine
[10:48] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope, it seems it doesn't boot from any disk at all.
[10:49] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I mean CD
[10:49]  * __doc__ goes on to mess with /usr/share/hal/fdi
[10:49] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: i found that, its a kernel update from, 2.6.24-26 to 2.6.24-27
[10:49] <sebsebseb> robbit10: it's probably a problem with Ubuntu itself
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  thats normal for kernel updates. they often dont want to force them on people
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> rumpsy:  the --dry-run optionjust shows what it would do but dosent do it :)
[10:50] <Pure> This is confusing, is there any advantage of having one over the other?
[10:50] <ikonia> Pure: on differnt hardware yes
[10:50] <_raven_> Seveas, ?
[10:50] <ikonia> Pure: if you are using home user kit - use the desktop
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  for my home i install desktop version and install what services i need
[10:50] <ikonia> _raven_: what do you want ?
[10:50] <Pure> Ok
[10:50] <rumpsy> Dr_Willis: ty :)
[10:51] <Seveas> _raven_, ?
[10:51] <Pure> Does this wubi work well?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  i wouldent suggest using wubi at all
[10:51] <ikonia> Pure: my personal opion of wubi is very poor, that said other users find it a useful way to test using ubuntu
[10:51] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope, it doesn't even boot my Windows XP CD
[10:51] <_raven_> ikonia, i need a simple midi recorder which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[10:51] <sebsebseb> robbit10: some sort of hardware issue maybe then, what type of XP CD?
[10:51] <ikonia> _raven_: not a big audio processor on linux so, no idea
[10:52] <sebsebseb> Pure: better to use real partitions in the long run, plus  wubi can mess up oddly on people, when they uninstall it, that kind of thing
[10:52] <Pure> Fair enough
[10:53] <Pure> Which would be best to download, size wise, alternate, desktop or server?
[10:53] <Pure> I have a VERY slow connection
[10:53] <ikonia> Pure: alterntive is the smaller
[10:53] <ikonia> Pure: less pretty interface to install from though
[10:53] <Pure> Thanks
[10:53] <sebsebseb> Pure: usueally people install from the desktop CD
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  the sizes are all under 700mb
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  there is a ubuntu minimal you may want to try then
[10:53] <Pure> How long at 56k?
[10:54] <ikonia> Pure: too long
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Pure:  id go to the local book store and get a magazine with ubuntu in it
[10:54]  * Pure sighs
[10:54] <sebsebseb> Pure: also you can order offical CD's from Canonical for free, but might take 4 to 6 weeks before getting
[10:54] <ikonia> Pure: you may want to consider going to a public internet place, library/cafe/university etc
[10:54] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Check your Private Messages
[10:55] <euryale> can anyone tell me how to install jre 1.4.x
[10:55] <euryale> i need it for vuze which ain't working
[10:55] <sebsebseb> !java | euryale
[10:55] <euryale> ok thanks alot!
[10:55] <ZiG|ZaG> if i issue a mv command from source to target, how do i indicate to move to the current directory without typing the whole path?
[10:55] <sebsebseb> euryale: np
[10:56]  * Pure laughs, 0745 hours at my speed
[10:56] <sebsebseb> Pure: sounds about right on 56k I think
[10:56] <anternat> ....
[10:56] <lvlint> ZiG|ZaG, mv source.txt source.bck     doesn't work?
[10:56] <sebsebseb> Pure: so in that case,  may as well get the desktop
[10:56] <Pure> Amazingly, my speed is clamped network side, not isp side
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: since then you can test your hardware  before installing Ubuntu
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: where as with the alternate you can't
[10:57] <ikonia> ZiG|ZaG: you either need to be in the directory containing the source, or use the full path
[10:57] <ZiG|ZaG> lvlint, why yes, yes it does
[10:57] <Slart> ZiG|ZaG: ./
[10:57] <ZiG|ZaG> ikonia yah
[10:57] <Pure> It would be nice if etas for torrents were accurate
[10:57] <sebsebseb> Pure: Which are you getting?
[10:58] <Pure> Desktop now
[10:58] <ikonia> Pure: they will change depending on what's online - they normally are active
[10:58] <ikonia> accurate
[10:58] <ZiG|ZaG> ikonia also if you just define the filename in the target directory
[10:58] <sebsebseb> Pure: Desktop ok good :)
[10:58] <Pure> There's only 200KB difference from the two
[10:59] <Pure> I'll probably stop it at somepoint, so I don't get traffic shaped
[10:59] <Pure> Not that my speed can get any worse
[11:01] <euryale> sebsebseb
[11:01] <sebsebseb> euryale: yes?
[11:01] <octavio> Howdy folks
[11:01] <euryale> i downloaded jre-6u18-linux-i586.rpm from java website isn't that jre i need?
[11:01] <euryale> and installed it
[11:01] <sebsebseb> euryale: you don't do rpm
[11:02] <sebsebseb> euryale: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  I belive
[11:02] <euryale> ah
[11:02]  * octavio just installed Ubuntu and is overwhealmed
[11:02] <Pure> Ack, 3.5 seconds of lag
[11:02] <sebsebseb> euryale: Ubuntu uses Deb,  RPM is what Redhat and Fedora and such will use
[11:02] <euryale> ok lemme try brb
[11:03] <sebsebseb> euryale: Mandriva as well
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok back to channel I think
[11:04] <robbit10> sebsebseb: okay
[11:04] <euryale> oh
[11:04] <euryale> and i installed it
[11:04] <euryale> how do i remove it
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10:  maybe other people will know why,  Ubuntu CD's won't boot up on that lap top
[11:04] <foens> Hello Ubuntu community. I am having a problem with my sound: It says some funny sounds when the some sounds is going to be played. Ehm - hard to explain. Im on a HP Laptop
[11:04] <euryale> i used ./file and it walked me through the installation
[11:04] <euryale> with rpm file
[11:04] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ,but I have read stuff before  that basically seems to say that  Ubuntu won't work on certain computers
[11:04] <robbit10> Okay -- to everyone in this channel, i have a Sony VAIO laptop here that won't boot up from ANY cd whatsover. Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:05] <ikonia> euryale: rpm's are targeted to work on ubuntu
[11:05] <ikonia> robbit10: contact your supplier, sounds like the laptop has an issue
[11:05] <robbit10> The boot order in the BIOS is set right, so that isn't it.
[11:05] <Pure> Change it in the bios?
[11:05] <euryale> what do you mean targeted
[11:05] <ikonia> keep in mind the channel is only for ubuntu issues
[11:05] <ikonia> euryale: ok, compatible
[11:06] <robbit10> ikonia: It is loosely related - i'm trying to run the LiveCD.
[11:06] <sebsebseb> ikonia: Maybe I read that wrong or something,  you said RPM's work on Ubuntu?   I know they do in Alien, but that's not recommended
[11:06] <euryale> ah ok
[11:06] <euryale> ty
[11:06] <ikonia> robbit10: not related if you you're laptop won't work
[11:06] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you did read that wrong
[11:06] <robbit10> ikonia: Then where do I seek support?
[11:06] <ikonia> robbit10: contact your laptop vendor
[11:07] <kohar> robbit10 did you burn .iso to cd? and did you set cd-drive first drive to load?
[11:07] <kohar> *boot
[11:07] <sebsebseb> ikonia: misunderstood nevermind though
[11:08] <mokmeister> anybody here have any success connecting a Vodafone huawei k3765 on 8.04?
[11:08] <robbit10> kohar: yes
[11:09] <kohar> robbit10 system do not see cd in drive and continue load win?
[11:09] <robbit10> sebsebseb: please check your Private messages
[11:09] <robbit10> kohar: indeed
[11:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you could of just put what you just did there, in the channel
[11:10] <robbit10> sebsebseb:  It seems the CD-rom player doesn't work in Windows either. It displays the right filesize but it also shows up as an empty CD. When you open it it asks to format it.
[11:10] <euryale> damn 30 mb of java ¬¬
[11:11] <euryale> they should include this stuff in the cd wth!
[11:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok  probably some sort of hardware issue
[11:11] <ikonia> sebsebseb: nnot a problem
[11:11] <kohar> robbit10  try ultraiso or nero to burn .iso image
[11:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: or imgburn if your on Windows doing it
[11:12] <sebsebseb> robbit10: what about other CD's,  do they work with that CD drive?
[11:12] <kohar> robbit10 if it didn't help then contact your vendor for replace
[11:12] <brumen_> ubuntu works really well
[11:12] <robbit10> sebsebseb: no
[11:12] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you have tried, so no CD's work properly in that drive?
[11:13] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Indeed, i also tried to boot the WIndows XP cd.
[11:13] <ikonia> robbit10: ok - contact your laptop vendor, this is not an ubuntu issue please.
[11:14] <johana> hola
[11:14] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I guess what kohar and ikonia  put, plus you can take your hardware issue/s to ##hardware
[11:14] <sebsebseb> !es |  johana
[11:15] <papul> is firefox 3.5 available yet?
[11:15] <acuster> hey all, ekiga is not finding the output device (sound-recorder works fine). Is there a way to confirm ALSA -> pulseaudio is working?
[11:15] <cryptk> here is a really odd, off the wall question...
[11:15] <ikonia> papul: I'm using 3.5.7 on 9.10
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> papul:  theres ppa's for the latest versions
[11:16] <cryptk> why is it... if I install Ubuntu from a CD with a different mouse, my G7 works flawlessly
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  it hates you :)
[11:16] <cryptk> if I install either from a USB drive, or with my G7 connected, or both, then my G7 freezes shortly after bootup
[11:16] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, not helpful
[11:16] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis:  papul  for 3.6  a ppa,  but that will be in the next Ubuntu anyway, released  April 29th
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  sounbds like some quirky usb issue.
[11:17] <cryptk> yep
[11:17] <euryale> what is a ppa?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  it fails to Install from usb or installs then fails to run properly?
[11:17] <cryptk> mint does the same exact thing
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[11:17] <cryptk> I haven't tried it with straight debian yet
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> dirty usb port?
[11:17] <robbit10> sebsebseb: One part of the problem has been fixed! It appeared the lens was dirty, and now it DOES start up from the Windows XP cd! But not from the Ubuntu cd...
[11:17] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, it will install fine from USB, just my G7 will freeze up after bootup
[11:17] <sebsebseb> euryale: sort of like mini repo's that can be added,   a way people can get later packages when they aren't in the repo's yet,  however having to many ppa's installed might cause issues
[11:17] <cryptk> other mice work great
[11:18] <matt__>  /join #italia
[11:18] <cryptk> only the G7 causes the problem, but with the G7 freezes it causes all kinds of other USB issues
[11:18] <kohar> acuster yea somewhere on ubuntuforum was how to
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> Points to a G7 issue..  I guess
[11:18]  * Dr_Willis wonders what a G7 is...
[11:18] <[eXception]> hi
[11:18] <cryptk> like new USB devices that are connected will not be picked up (no message in dmesg), unplugging a USB device after the G7 freezes wil register in dmesg, but reconnecting them won't work
[11:18] <cryptk> all kinds of weird crap
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> wonder if its pullng too much powar.
[11:19] <cryptk> but if I install from a CD, with a different mouse, it works great
[11:19] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Success! It booted! The lens was dirty, that was all.
[11:19] <ionut> what is a DHCP ?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !dhcp
[11:19] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, it can't be that because the mouse works flawless in winblows and it also works flawless if I install via CD with the G7 disconnected
[11:19] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok good
[11:19] <sebsebseb> :)
[11:19] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, see why i am scratching my head here
[11:20] <robbit10> sebsebseb: :) thanks for the help
[11:20] <cryptk> I am interested to try with straight debian to see if it is an issue with deb or with ubuntu
[11:20] <sebsebseb> robbit10: np
[11:20] <seon> how can i obtain informations about a website with a shell command?
[11:20] <cryptk> my test with mint didn't reveal much since it is based on Ubuntu
[11:20] <cryptk> lol
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> seon:  what sort of info?
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[11:21] <robbit10> sebsebseb: No offense, but Mandriva looks.. unpolished, and not ready for main use. Not much content on the site, for example.
[11:21] <seon> Dr_Willis> the owner, contact infos
[11:21] <cryptk> damn, floodbot is really fast, lol
[11:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: keeping your eye on the channel :)
[11:21] <kaki> hiii world
[11:21] <cryptk> ikonia, was that an automated kick? or are you just that fast, lol
[11:22] <ikonia> I'm quick
[11:22] <cryptk> nice, lol
[11:22] <robbit10> I like the new policy that states you may just discuss your removal from the channel :)
[11:22] <cryptk> btw guys... just wanted to tell a LINUX success story... I am getting hired on at a new company to be a LINUX software administrator for 50K/year
[11:22] <cryptk> play with linux, it CAN pay!
[11:22] <ikonia> cryptk: not really on topic here
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> 'discuss your removal, and let us insult you more...' :)
[11:22] <lvlint> seon, whois domain.com
[11:22] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: please
[11:22] <cryptk> who ever doubted free/OSS software, lol
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  did you pad your resume>
[11:23] <sebsebseb> robbit10: talking about removeale could be done before, and a bit off topic talking about this really
[11:23] <cryptk> ikonia, sorry, just throught that I woudl mention it since Ubuntu is what got me started with linux
[11:23] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, no
[11:23] <ikonia> cryptk: I understand
[11:23] <Seveas> cryptk, 50k in which currency? Tutkish lira? :)
[11:23] <cryptk> lol
[11:23] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ah, true.
[11:23] <sebsebseb> robbit10:  not you,   cryptk    right let's try and get this auto complete sorted out properly
[11:23] <seon> lvlint> thanks
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> if i put 'spends all day doing Ubuntu Support Online' in a resume would it be a lie?  heh.
[11:24] <sebsebseb> and keep an eye on who said what better again
[11:24] <Seveas> cryptk, if the answer is 'us dollar', you're underpaid ;)
[11:24] <kaki> Dr Willis please i have a probleme in compiz i can't activing 3D desktop
[11:24] <System-7> If you're making money off Linux, I think it's enough ;)
[11:24] <cryptk> kaki, did you install vid card drivers?
[11:24] <ikonia> ok chaps, lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:24] <kaki> yes
[11:24] <kaki> of course
[11:25] <cryptk> did you enable desktop effects?
[11:25] <kaki> yes
[11:25] <cryptk> is it giving you any errors?
[11:25] <kaki> no
[11:25] <cryptk> do you have the "wobbley windows" when you drag them around?
[11:25] <kaki> i have intel graohik card
[11:25] <kaki> yes
[11:26] <cryptk> and your Visual Effects is set to 'Extra' right?
[11:26] <kaki> right
[11:26] <robbit10> How do I make the Live CD store changes such as drive installs?
[11:26] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you don't
[11:26] <cryptk> then you have 3d desktop, you just need to install the compiz config setting manager
[11:26] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yo ucan save stuff onto a USB  stick whilst using the Live CD for example though
[11:26] <robbit10> erm
[11:26] <robbit10> oops
[11:26] <robbit10> driver*
[11:26] <kaki> i have installed it
[11:26] <kaki> with fuulk functions
[11:26] <papul> sebsebseb: yes there was a mistake i want 3.6 how to use ppa for that?
[11:26] <robbit10> guess i'll use Wubi to test it out then.
[11:26] <kaki> i can enable all effects
[11:26] <kohar> kaki try fusion-icon | sudo aptitude install fusion-icon
[11:26] <kaki> but the  3D desktop no
[11:27] <sebsebseb> papul: Why do you want 3.6?
[11:27] <kaki> ok  kohar
[11:27] <papul> sebsebseb: coz it is latest
[11:27]  * __doc__ steams
[11:27] <sebsebseb> papul: Thought that was why
[11:27] <Seveas> papul,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-stable-from-ubuntu-ppa.html
[11:27] <cryptk> kaki, do you mean the 3d cube for swapping desktops?
[11:27] <Seveas> __doc__, go __init__ yourself ;)
[11:28] <sebsebseb> papul: yes there are advantages in 3.6 over 3.5.7 of course, but really 3.5.7 would probably be fine for you.  Also newer is not always better!   You will also get 3.6  in the next Ubuntu  released April 29th.
[11:28] <agruman> my system is terrible at multitasking when io usage is high, example when extracting archives or copying files, i have to wait really long for even the simplest application to start, i am unable to scroll in firefox aso. I am using nf4 fakeraid on 2 500gb sata drives and io as such is ok speeds, my machine is a 2.6ghz amd but cpu utilization is below 10%, currently using karmic, was same in jaunty. What could be the problem?
[11:28] <cryptk> kaki, what part of 3d desktop isn't working?
[11:28] <kaki> yes cryptk
[11:28] <ikonia> agruman: fake raid is a key problem already
[11:28] <__doc__> ubuntu 9.10, wacom tablet, great, it works out of the box, *NOT GREAT* no f... way to map the input range to one monitor/window --> absolutely terribly beyond relief unusable with GIMP
[11:28] <kaki> when the desktop tourn like a cube
[11:28] <Seveas> sebsebseb, meh, it's in a good ppa (mozillateam knows what they do) so just use it ;)
[11:28] <cryptk> ahh, do you have 'Desktop Cube' enabled in ccsm?
[11:29] <agruman> ikonia, well i dual boot, and it works fine in winxp / 7. Though they ofc have binary drivers
[11:29] <kaki> yeahh
[11:29] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:29] <cryptk> and desktop wall disabled
[11:29] <cryptk> the two aren't compatible
[11:29] <faz_kn> anybody temme
[11:29] <ikonia> agruman: so, windows is a different technology, fake raid is a.) a terrible technology b.) even worse in linux
[11:29] <kaki> yes
[11:29] <faz_kn> here
[11:29] <bluephase> hi all, does anybody know about webdav connections?
[11:29] <cryptk> is "Rotate Cube" enabled
[11:29] <kaki> yes
[11:30] <papul> and why does firefox update not work as in windows?
[11:30] <kaki> this what make me crazy
[11:30] <cryptk> hold down control and alt then left click and drag left and right
[11:30] <cryptk> does it start to spin?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> papul:  because windows is not linux.
[11:30] <agruman> ikonia, well perhaps, but io is running at good speeds if i only run io, and its thesame if i extract to a nfs drive
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu uses repositories for software.
[11:30] <sebsebseb> Seveas: well  having to add ppa's in the first place (or install the software some other way) for  major later stuff, Firefox, Open Office, etc, or  wait for the next release, is a bit silly really, but whatever I guess. Also some users will find it difficult to add a ppa.
[11:30] <bluephase> im trying to copy some files from a webdav connection.  The files include folders and when I paste them instead of pasting the folders and the contents it just pastes a html link to the folder?
[11:30] <ikonia> agruman: I have no idea what you just said
[11:30] <kaki> yes it turne like cylinder
[11:30] <ikonia> agruman: but fakeraid will be a BIG factor in your problem
[11:30] <sebsebseb> !firefox | papul
[11:31] <cryptk> papul, the respository is a much different way of working with software and updates, but after you learn how they work you will love them and miss them when using windows
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, then it is working
[11:31] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, do you want to know how to add more sides to the cube? what is the problem?
[11:31] <agruman> ikonia, do you have any idea in how i could determine if that is it?
[11:31] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in ubuntu???
[11:31] <kaki> thanks lot cryptk
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, the cube has the same number of sides as you have workspaces
[11:32] <agruman> ikonia, because im not so certain myself, since i experience the same problems when loading nfs-drives with io
[11:32] <kaki> yes 4
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  should be under the settings menus/tools  somewhere
[11:32] <cryptk> add more by right clicking on the workspace portion of the taskbar at the bottom right, hit properties and add more
[11:32] <ikonia> agruman: a.) read all the known and famous problems with fake raid b.) run a single drive configuartion see if it's any better c.) run io statistics and see where the bottle neck is, probably cpu wait time controlling the fake raid controller
[11:32] <sagaci> faz_kn: system > preferences > display
[11:32] <kaki> ok
[11:32] <cryptk> kaki, enable 3d windows too for another nice effect while rotating the cube
[11:32] <Leitti> hi all
[11:32] <bluephase> anybody? webdav?
[11:33] <cryptk> makes the windows pop out off the surface of the cube
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> !webdav
[11:33] <kaki> ok i will try now
[11:33] <PJC80LA08> I have a question regarding Wubi.  The executable file for Wubi installer won't run on my Thinkpad T43.  What is the fix for this?
[11:33] <Leitti> is there any way to customize ubuntu easily for web usage
[11:33] <bluephase> !webdav
[11:33] <ikonia> Leitti: for web usage ?
[11:33] <cryptk> Leitti, explain what you mean
[11:33] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:33] <kaki> wawwwwoooo
[11:33] <kaki> thank you cryptk
[11:33] <faz_kn> .............how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:33] <cryptk> kaki, cool huh
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  use the tools in the menus
[11:33] <Leitti> yes, i would just browse internet and use irc
[11:33] <faz_kn> anybody knows how
[11:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Wubi  can go wrong on people and such, and it's better to use real partitions in the long run.
[11:34] <kaki> yeah
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  or clarify the problem more
[11:34] <kaki> i love u man
[11:34] <euryale> !webdav
[11:34] <agruman> ikonia, thanks, do you know of any good io benchmarking utility?
[11:34] <ikonia> faz_kn: calm down - stop asking every 10 seconds please
[11:34] <ikonia> agruman: iostat
[11:34] <ikonia> agruman: sar
[11:34] <agruman> ikonia, thanks alot
[11:34] <cryptk> kaki, most of the efects will have a 'bindings' tab, that has what you use to control them
[11:34] <faz_kn> it says just 800x just i need 1240...
[11:34] <kaki> ok
[11:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: right so you want to dual boot with Windows?
[11:34] <cryptk> and you can change the bindings also to customize it to what you wanyt
[11:34] <kohar> Dr_Willis i think he mean webdev =)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  NOW you are actually getting to the actual question....
[11:34] <faz_kn> yah
[11:35] <thecliff> faz_kn; do you have the driver installed for your video card?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  install the proper drivers for your viudeo card to make all res'a avail it can do.
[11:35] <PJC80LA08> So the answer given regarding Wubi - I assume this answer is based on several similar scenarios experienced by many users so far - "tested, tried, and true" ???
[11:35] <faz_kn> how???
[11:35] <cryptk> Leitti, you mean make it so it can ONLY browse the internet and do IRC?
[11:35] <acuster> is there supposed to be an /etc/asound.conf file or is this a really old approach (docs from 2007)?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  and your video card is a ?
[11:35] <thecliff> faz_kn, what video card are you using?
[11:35] <faz_kn> i don't know
[11:35] <papul> i also want thunderbird 3
[11:35] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: the answer is,  oh well nevermind so it doesn't work, avoide it anyway,  :)   doesn't take much to set up a proper partitioned install
[11:35] <faz_kn> is there anyway to get it
[11:36] <faz_kn> i mean i just installed it...
[11:36] <Leitti> cryptk, yes and rhytmbox + vlc :D
[11:36] <faz_kn> xubuntu....
[11:36] <photon> hey. I'm using ubuntu 9.04, I don't like to upgrade to 9.10, but still use the latest version of one editor I like (geany). Is there a way to update Geany without having to compile it myself?
[11:36] <thecliff> faz_kn, try Systems > Administration > Hardware Driver and see if Ubuntu picks up your driver
[11:36] <faz_kn> okay
[11:36] <faz_kn> wait
[11:36] <cryptk> so you want to limit it to only those things
[11:36] <sebsebseb> photon: there might be a ppa
[11:36] <faz_kn> mu os is xubuntu.....
[11:36] <thecliff> faz_kn: do you know if you have an AMD or Intel processor?
[11:36] <cryptk> Leitti, or you want to add those things in?
[11:36] <faz_kn> intel
[11:36] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | PJC80LA08
[11:36] <Leitti> cryptk, i only need those
[11:37] <thecliff> faz_kn, could go either way then.  let me know what happens in Hardware Drivers
[11:37] <Leitti> cryptk, i will do other things with my other computer
[11:37] <cryptk> Leitti, just remove anything you don't want with synaptic
[11:37] <faz_kn> okay
[11:37] <faz_kn> it's searchin
[11:37] <cryptk> Leitti, you can also add in things like vls in synaptic also
[11:37] <Leitti> cryptk, is there any risk a would delete something critical-+
[11:37] <cryptk> s/vls/vlc/
[11:38] <papul> how to get thunderbird 3?
[11:38] <Leitti> i would
[11:38] <sebsebseb> papul: I think there might be a ppa
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> papul:  search for a PPA of it is one way
[11:38] <ikonia> papul: it's currently not packaged in the stable repos
[11:38] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, is there is any quick web documentation, guidance, instructions, on how to do this proper partitioned install?  I just purchased this Thinkpad, and I refuse to run Windows anymore.  I want Ubuntu, but still want Windows in tact and able to be recovered.  My restore discs are already created ...
[11:38] <sebsebseb> papul: as far as I know that will also be in the next Ubuntu
[11:38] <cryptk> Leitti, don't just go randomly removing things, just look at when is in the menus that you don't want and remove them, be careful removing things that arent in the applications menu
[11:38] <bluephase> so we're drawing a blank on a webdav connection to an iphone?
[11:38] <faz_kn> it says no proprietry drivers
[11:38] <cryptk> Leitti, may I ask why you want to limit it to only those things?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Theres secure.. then thers paranoid :)
[11:39] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: well the link I got the bot to give you,  but I can guide you through partitioning in here or pm, no problem
[11:39] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, exactly... lol
[11:39] <papul> why are new versions of software available in future repos?
[11:39] <sebsebseb> papul: future versions
[11:39] <papul> and not available in the current one?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  err because thats how it works,,
[11:39] <ikonia> papul: because they take time to build and package
[11:39] <cryptk> papul, what do you mean future repos?
[11:39] <faz_kn> it says no proprietry driver......
[11:39] <papul> like 10.4
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu uses a 6 mo release schedule
[11:39] <cryptk> there are beta repos, those repos have software that is still in testing
[11:39] <sebsebseb> papul:  also since Ubuntu tend to only provide security updates from the repo's
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  eveyr 6 mo stuff gets updated
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> !schedule
[11:40] <thecliff> faz_kn: open terminal and enter "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:40] <faz_kn> wait
[11:40] <thecliff> read through this file and see what video card is listed
[11:40] <papul> Dr_Willis: but others must be able to install the latest versions when they want and not wait for future versions
[11:40] <rabbi1> Dr. Willis?
[11:40] <papul> sorry not repo its version
[11:40] <cryptk> the version numbers of ubuntu are not just versions, they are also dates
[11:40] <rabbi1> could u help me with my LAMPP connections?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu dosent work that way. It uses a 6 Mo relase schedule.
[11:41] <cryptk> ubuntu 9.10 was released in 2009 in october (the 10th month)
[11:41] <ikonia> rabbi1: what's the issue
[11:41] <sebsebseb> papul: there's this big idea that it's best to get the latest versions of stuff, and oh just to get it, because it is the latest.   That is not always the case, sometimes newer stuff really is better.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> papul:  if you want newer. then use ppa's or other unsupported./offcial sources
[11:41] <sebsebseb> papul: uh older stuff at the end there
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> !best
[11:41] <cryptk> next one will be 10.4 (2001 in April)
[11:41] <rabbi1> ikonia, MySQL Deactivated
[11:41] <cryptk> err 2010, not 2001, lol
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: start it then
[11:42] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, I have that webpage up here now.  I already downloaded the ISO for Ubuntu 9.10.  It looks like creating an Ubuntu LiveCD is involved ...  I do need to get some sleep.  I am in the U.S. on Pacific Time - it's currently 3:41 AM here.  What time would work for you later on today - you said PM.  Where are you at - and what is your time zone in relation to mine?
[11:42] <rabbi1> after installation of XAMPP, i ran complete security process
[11:42] <sebsebseb> papul: most users probably shoudn't really be using ppa's in the first place,  but if you really must have the latest Firefox, Thunderbird, or whatever it is, well ok then ppa's
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: why are you using xammp and not just a standard lamp install
[11:42] <thecliff> faz_kn: another tool I use is Sysinfo.  You can install this by going to Terminal and entering "sudo apt-get install sysinfo" and then entering your password.  this will give you an easy to use GUI interface and tell all hardware information abut you box
[11:42] <rabbi1> it asked for new pwds, now, all events are running except MySQL
[11:42] <cryptk> brb
[11:42] <faz_kn> it says no gedit install here.... install it by typing something.....
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: xampp is a terrible process that makes things pointlessly hard and breaks compatability and packaging process
[11:43] <ikonia> rabbi1: I'd suggest trying to remove it and just do a standard lamp install, or contact the xammp support people
[11:43] <Seveas> rabbi1, you installed xampp --> you won't get support here
[11:43] <rabbi1> ok ikonia, will do that
[11:43] <thecliff> faz_kn: another tool I use is Sysinfo.  You can install this by going to Terminal and entering "sudo apt-get install sysinfo" and then entering your password.  this will give you an easy to use GUI interface and tell all hardware information abut you box --- use this instead
[11:43] <rabbi1> i know seveas, i am trying to remove it
[11:43] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: oh i'll probably be in here for  another  12 hours or so,  probably a bit more then that,  just won't be at my computer all that time of course
[11:43] <papul> why isn't a deb file available for this software
[11:44] <Seveas> papul, which software?
[11:44] <papul> i shall ask in irc.mozilla.org
[11:44] <ikonia> papul: you've been told why, it takes time to build and package
[11:44] <ikonia> that won't change ubuntu's packages
[11:44] <papul> sorry to disturb u with non related stuff
[11:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: plus i'll probably be in there tommorow Sunday
[11:44] <rabbi1> ikonia, pls provide the any link, if u know for removing XAMPP and using standard LAMP
[11:44] <ikonia> rabbi1: I don't have a link for remocing xampp
[11:44] <faz_kn> chat in pvt........
[11:46] <ionut> does anyone knows an application to watch in streaming tv programs on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[11:46] <ikonia> ionut: mythtv can record and stream tv to clients
[11:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: OK - maybe I can give a whack at myself when I get up - and then if I have issues - I can get a hold of you.  So cool to finally get the answers I need on here at like 4 AM !!!
[11:46] <rabbi1> ikonia, a link where i can find the normal LAMP for ubuntu 8.04
[11:47] <ikonia> install php5, apache2 and mysql or taskselect install lamp
[11:47] <ikonia> !lamp | rabbi1
[11:47] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: using the guided install is pretty easy, but  setting up a seperate /home  is better in the long run
[11:48] <rabbi1> thx, thts done for me
[11:48] <rabbi1> i guess ;)
[11:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no seperate /home if using guided install
[11:48] <pochi> oh hai! just upgraded to 9.10, and networking doesn't work. Found a description of the bug, and someone suggested i install wicd instead of network-manager. but without network ... how?
[11:49] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, what do you mean by a "separate /home"? And why? Do you mean separate home directory?  OK - so if using the guided install doesn't allow for this, how do I do it?
[11:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: manual install
[11:50] <faz_kn> anybody knows how to increase resolution and exceed the limit of that????????
[11:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: easier to set up before installing, than after woulds, well I never have set one up after woulds
[11:51] <PJC80LA08> OK - so can we set up the /home now in Windows?
[11:51] <PJC80LA08> Shouldn't take too long, should it?
[11:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no all this is done on a Live CD.   Well if you got Vista you should let it resize itself, and  it's probably like this with Windows 7 as well.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  have you figured out what video card you are using yet?
[11:52] <faz_kn> nothing card
[11:52] <faz_kn> chat in pvt
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  i dont chat in pvt. sorry,.
[11:52] <ikonia> please stop asking for private chat
[11:52] <faz_kn> okay
[11:52] <faz_kn> so i've installed sysinfo
[11:52] <faz_kn> and gedit also
[11:52] <faz_kn> now what to do
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> I suggest using the normal ubuntu faz_kn  not xubuntu.  but if you got sysinfo installed.. then run it and see what it says
[11:52] <faz_kn> in drivers 't says that no proprietry driver found
[11:52] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, I am running Windows XP Pro.  How is the creation of "/home" done with the LiveCD, then?
[11:53] <faz_kn> it says ati card
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  any specific make/model #'s ?
[11:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok so you can re size the XP partition no problem using the LIve CD then, but probably should back up any data just in case something happens first of course
[11:53] <viktor_> im having some problems with my firewall/fileserver, ever since i updated it, it has pretty mcuh stopped working. it runs, samba server, i usually vnc to it, i can not connect to the samba shares anymore after the latest update and i can start vnc remotly but it crashes as soon as i try to do something with it. 2 questions, what is the name of the vnc server process? and anyone else having similar problems with their firewall and sa
[11:53] <viktor_> oh and this was written over ssh from it
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  how are you starting vnc anyway?  i normally ssh in and run vncserver
[11:54] <ikonia> viktor_: drop your firewall for testing
[11:54] <viktor_> both sound great, how do i do that
[11:54] <faz_kn> ati technologies 3d rage
[11:54] <faz_kn> ......
[11:54] <viktor_> ikonia, uninstall?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> how did you even set up  the firewall viktor_ ?
[11:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: /home is where  your data and program user data will go,   by having one re installing Ubuntu for example will be easier
[11:55] <ikonia> viktor_: no, just stop it
[11:55] <viktor_> sudo apt-get install firestarter dr willis
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  thats just a front end to the firewall system
[11:55] <faz_kn> it says ati tech 3d rage card.........
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  im not sure that by default will even add any actual firewall rules.
[11:55] <agruman> ikonia, seems to be %iowait, was up over 90% when the system lagged out, but now im extracting to a nfs-mounted device and raid io was almost 0.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  run firestarter and tell it to stop the firewall perhaps.
[11:55] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: K - so is resizing the XP partition a pretty user friendly process?  I am pretty new to this stuff.  And then where does the creation of /home come into play?  You would then create this on the XP partition?
[11:56] <Dayman_Fighterof> hey guys....anyone having troible with cairo dock centering?... change possition works on my laptop but not my netbook..........
[11:56] <ikonia> agruman: cpu will still be used to keep the fakeraid active
[11:56] <faz_kn> talk to me........
[11:56] <ikonia> !ati | faz_kn
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  i dont use ati cards so no idea on how supported that one is.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  so thers no point in msging me.
[11:57] <agruman> ikonia, ok, will need to dig deeper into this ..
[11:57] <bluephase> I'm trying to copy some folders from my iPhone to Ubuntu 9.10 via a WebDav connection.  However if I copy a folder it only generates a link, rather than copying the files themselves?  Can anybody explain this please?
[11:57] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: guided install with no seperate /home is fine really for most users,  however what I just put regarding /home  which is why a lot of more experienced users tend to do it
[11:57] <kaki> faz_kn  try envyNG
[11:57] <thecliff> faz_kn, go to Apps > Ubuntu Software Center > install ATI catalyst control
[11:57] <playboy> nnn
[11:58] <peach> contactos
[11:58] <ikonia> ?
[11:58] <peach> olaaa
[11:58] <viktor_> dr willis, can we return to the vnc, the "server" i am talking about is running with gnome, on a regular ubuntu 9.10 install, so all i did was change the "remote-deskto" ssettings from preferences to get it running, what process is it in fact using for that?
[11:58] <Guest632> olaa
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest632: hello, this channel is English only
[11:58] <ikonia> !es | Guest632
[11:59] <Guest632> tu quien eres?
[11:59] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK, so I get it.  /home would go on the XP partition, which is why you would resize it first.  Maybe the guided install with no separate /home would work just fine for me then.  Your /home is kind of like your Ubuntu backup then, I take it?
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: 1. backup any important data in XP.  2.  have you checked your ISO I guess not, that's  a good thing to do, md5sum check to make sure you have a good download.  3.  burn contents of ISO to CD.   4.  boot computer from it.   5. test hardware Internet for example.   6. if 5 was a success start installer  and install Ubuntu using guided with no sperate home being created,  or  using manual where one can be made
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Wubi would put  Ubuntu inside  XP
[12:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: however  your going to do a proper partitioned install :)   which means you need to have space on your hard disk for Ubuntu,
[12:00] <viktor_> return to vnc, the "server" i am talking about is running with gnome, on a regular ubuntu 9.10 install, so all i did was change the "remote-deskto" ssettings from preferences to get it running, what process is it in fact using for that?
[12:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you probably don't have free space on your hard disk at the moment for Ubuntu, and so XP would be resized to make that space
[12:02] <paddy_melon> hey guys, can anyone help me? I want to create a wireless Access Point (preferrably a proper one, not an ad-hoc one) that simply makes all those on the network connect to the Intranet? Is this possible? Without anything else, EG I can do it nowhere near another access point
[12:02] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: with a seperate /home  you can just keep your data there.  and program user data, Firefox profile for example, then just re install Ubuntu and any programs you added to it after the default install
[12:02] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you need either an accedd point device or a machine to act as a server with a wirless card in to act as an authentication/dhcp/router device
[12:03] <maddux> question:  how to compare a good installation (same machine)  with a bad one --- one that video flakes out and you can't read it?    whats a good place to start?   the bad one i can only get into the command line
[12:03] <ikonia> maddux: are the machines the same ?
[12:04] <paddy_melon> ikonia, I can't become that machine? Seems weird (like 12 mb of ram and 4 mbs of Flash vs a Core 2 duo, etc._
[12:04] <maddux> ikonia, yes, they are
[12:04] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you can use what ever device you want,
[12:04] <paddy_melon> ikonia, is there software in ubuntu to do it?
[12:04] <ikonia> maddux: what's the differences in installations, eg: different versions of linux, different archs 32/64
[12:05] <viktor_> does anyone know what the name of the default ubnutu 9.10 remote-desktop service, process it is actually using for vnc? or should i just install a separate vnc server ?
[12:05] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you would have three partitions for Ubuntu.  1.  /  which is like C in Windows  that's Ubuntu itself.   2.  seperate /home :)   3.  a swap partition which is  like  virtual memory in Windows
[12:05] <paddy_melon> oh, sorry ikonia, read your post wrong so, what software do I need?
[12:05] <ikonia> paddy_melon: not as a single package, but as multiple individuals ones, sure, eg: dhcp server, authmethods like ldap/kerberos,
[12:05] <paddy_melon> ikonia, what about the actual creating of the access point and, broadcastin?
[12:05] <ikonia> that's a very complex process
[12:05] <Seveas> paddy_melon, have a look at chilispot
[12:06] <paddy_melon> Thanks seveas/Ikonia
[12:06] <maddux> only diff is that one is a usb install that hadnt be used for a long time, and the other is actually on the drive.  before the problem, i had installed many apps..perhaps and update or app broke it, not sure.   that would be the only diff between the two
[12:07] <ikonia> maddux: what version of ubuntu and what arch ?
[12:07] <maddux> 9.10 and 32 bit
[12:07] <ikonia> maddux: what video card is in it ?
[12:07] <paddy_melon> Seveas, will ChiliSpot use my wifi card to create a network?
[12:07] <ikonia> paddy_melon: it will use your card as a connection device
[12:07] <maddux> its a netbook so i am not sure on it. the common one for asus eeepc (he1000)
[12:07] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:07] <Seveas> paddy_melon, I've never used it myself so I won't be more useful that saying 'go look at it'
[12:07] <ikonia> paddy_melon: if you read the requirements you still need a wirless lan access point, a raidus server a web server etc
[12:08] <paddy_melon> ok, I'll take a look
[12:08] <dwessell> Is there a good article for how to get suexec working with Ubuntu? I can't find much in the way of documentation.
[12:08] <ikonia> maddux: if you do lspci you should be able to see, I don't know the eeepc options to be honest
[12:08] <paddy_melon> oh, Ikonia, then, what does work, surely my 1000 buck computer can serve hotspots: something a 50 dollar router can
[12:09] <ikonia> paddy_melon: the physical hardware is not important
[12:09] <WaterRatj> how would i make a line for opening a .deb with dpkg -i?
[12:09] <ikonia> paddy_melon: what part of "I've told you any hardware can do it" am I not making clear to you ?
[12:09] <maddux> 945GM
[12:09] <ikonia> maddux: intel card, should be well supported then
[12:09] <paddy_melon> ikonia, so, You're saying that only a router can do it>
[12:09] <ikonia> maddux: on the broke install is X not starting, or is it started and garbled
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: NO, ANY hardware can do it
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I just said that a few lines above
[12:10] <robbit10> Hi people. When installing Ubuntu, out of haste, i made a typo in the password and now I can't login. I've booted into single-user mode, but, now what? When i use passwd robbit10, it gives "Authentication token manipulation error"
[12:10] <maddux> its gnome i guess to say.  it becomes garbled on starting.
[12:10] <paddy_melon> ikonia, then how can I do it with that? I can't find the software, that's why I came here
[12:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok no problem
[12:10] <researcher1> how can I install google chrome in ununbtu 9.10
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I've told you the software you need, and the chillispot software is a good exmaple also
[12:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: boot up the recovery mode from the Grub boot loader
[12:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: get the root shell and then  passwd username  and put in a new password
[12:11] <paddy_melon> ikonia, DHCP, router and authentication != a hotspot that will broadcast
[12:11] <ikonia> paddy_melon: yes it is
[12:11] <erUSUL> researcher1: there is a ppa with daily build of chromium
[12:11] <ikonia> paddy_melon: that's the software you need
[12:11] <robbit10> sebsebseb: thanks :D
[12:11] <erUSUL> !ppa | researcher1
[12:12] <researcher1> how do I get that PPA for google chrome browser?
[12:12] <ikonia> paddy_melon: as chillispot suggests a radius (open radius) server is probably a better authentication method than ldap as I suggested
[12:12] <paddy_melon> ikonia, ok, thanks, but, which software creates a hotspot? A router like pfsense won't do it , DHCP is for the resolving of hosts... what's the authentication then?
[12:12] <ikonia> paddy_melon: the documentation on the chillispot software seems quite solid
[12:13] <ikonia> paddy_melon: dhcp is not for resolving hosts, the authentication is what will authenticate users to connect to you as you are acting as the hotspot
[12:13] <paddy_melon> ikonia, OK, I'll take a look, thanks
[12:13] <sebsebseb> robbit10: np :)
[12:13] <paddy_melon> ikonia, but, doesn't the access point need to be created before we go into authentication? Anyway, I probably need to read the chilispot stuff, thnx
[12:14] <netman1> Do homeplugs (ethernet over power), block multicast (eg. mediatomb/239.255.255.250) by design? If so, what's the rationale?
[12:14] <ikonia> paddy_melon: yes, your machine will need to act as an access point, so it needs a wirless connection, broadcasting SSID, with dhcp/authentication hooked into it, then your machine will need to be configured as a network router to get the clients on to the internet
[12:14] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - so I have about 28 GB left of hard disk space.  I don't really have any data to back up - because I just got this computer and started using it.  What is md5sum?  Does creating the LiveCD simply consist of placing the ISO file onto the disk - and then the computer will read the ISO file when the disc is inserted?  What do you mean by "test Internet hardware" ?  Are there solid instructions readily available fo
[12:14] <viktor_> hi guys! i have a ubuntu machine i am used to vnc to from a windows machine, all i did was set up remote-desktop access from the default ubuntu preferences, this has worked great for long. but now when i try to connect to if after a restart it works but crashes when i try to do something else than move my mouse, open folder or so. and after that i can not connect to the machine at all anymore. where should i start trying to solve th
[12:15] <robbit10> sebsebseb: yay :D it worked
[12:15] <sebsebseb> robbit10: :)
[12:15] <paddy_melon> ikonia, how do I configure it as such>
[12:15] <maddux> ikonia, a next step?
[12:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Are you on a lap top?  Do you have wireless?
[12:15] <ikonia> maddux: sorry, missed you comment, can you boot it into safe fraphics mode
[12:15] <ikonia> paddy_melon: as I said, that's a long and big process, that's why people use routers with pre-configurd roms
[12:15] <maddux> how do we do that, i just know the recovery mode
[12:15] <netman1> viktor: try the log files (~/.vnc and /var/log)
[12:15] <erUSUL> paddy_melon: maybe it would be easier to just make an adhoc network with the help of network manager ?
[12:15] <paddy_melon> ikonia, I"m into reading long and big processes, where do i begin?
[12:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: A lot of hardware just works on Ubuntu, but not  all PC hardware,  however you can test the hardware on the Live CD in the Live Session before installing Ubuntu on to the computer.
[12:16] <aloha_> how do i auto mount windows partition in ubuntu 9.10
[12:16] <paddy_melon> erUSUL, only Computers can connect AFAIK, eg. Ipods won't
[12:16] <ikonia> paddy_melon: keep in mind, most routers are just linux boxes running in ram, that's why I keep saying the hardware isnot important. The routers are just linux boxes with a wirless card in
[12:16] <maddux> ikonia, is this an option different than recovery mode?
[12:16] <erUSUL> paddy_melon: fair enough
[12:16] <ikonia> maddux: yes, think of it as safe graphics mode
[12:16] <netman1> viktor_: also, try another vnc client on your windows machine.
[12:16] <maddux> but the problem continues
[12:16] <ikonia> maddux: what you could do is boot into safe mode and change the video driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be vesa to see if it at least boots "ok"
[12:16] <paddy_melon> ikonia, is it possible to run something like what routers run then, like DD-WRT in Qemu>
[12:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: md5sum is a way to check that the ISO you downloaded is good.  Good idea to also do the disk check on the CD to make sure your psyical CD is good, however if it's brand new then I expect it already is.   You burn the contents of the ISO to CD not the ISO itself.
[12:17] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you can't run there actual; roms, but you can build your own version from scratch, but as I said it's a long and complex process
[12:17] <maddux> ikonia, ah, i see.
[12:17] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > PJC80LA08
[12:17] <paddy_melon> ikonia, why hasn't anyone done it before?
[12:17] <viktor_> netman1: the client is solid have tried several diffrent and they all show same behaviour
[12:17] <ikonia> paddy_melon: because most people just buy a $30 wirless router
[12:18] <onaogh> i am subscribing to ubuntu-arabic mailing list, what does "receive digests" mean ?
[12:18] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: Because almost any change to a file will cause its MD5 hash to also change, the MD5 hash is commonly used to verify the integrity of files
[12:18] <ikonia> paddy_melon: it's a massive headache and not everyone will leave their PC on to act as a router for everyeone else
[12:18] <Spanglish_7776> to make sure the file is not damaged on download-md5sum
[12:18] <maddux> ikonia, maybe i misunderstand, i am not using it in x mode, but gnome mode, still change the file you gave me?
[12:18] <paddy_melon> ikonia, a $30 router can't be moved like a laptop can
[12:18] <ikonia> why buy a $1000 pc to act as a wirless router with hours of hassle, when you can buy a $40 router
[12:18] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: better to make sure your CD is good before trying to install Ubuntu from it
[12:18] <ikonia> paddy_melon: a router can be moved easier than a laptop, smaller, lighter, lower power,
[12:18] <ionut> does anyone knows why mythtv it gives me this error: MythTV is using all inputs,but there are no active recordings ?
[12:18] <guillaume_> Hey everyone, I've a problem with my desktop, about the theme, I've taken a screeshot to show the problem, who may help me please?
[12:19] <paddy_melon> ikonia, but, not battery operated, plus, a PC can do a lot at once
[12:19] <paddy_melon> eg for what I'm doing id still need a PC to serve the intranet
[12:19] <onaogh> guillaume_, what is your problem with themes ?
[12:19] <photon> ionut: there is #mythtv-users
[12:19] <netman1> viktor_: then your conclusion that the problem is on the server side is probably right. Are you running Xvnc on the server? Does it have any logging/debug capabilities?
[12:19] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I don't know what youre doing it, but that's why no-one bothers with it
[12:19] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: md5sum refers to a command or program.  I have Verbatim CD's with the vinyl tops - they should be good to go.  How do I extract the file contents from the ISO file, then?
[12:20] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: your on Windows now?
[12:20] <paddy_melon> ikonia, OK, perhaps I could make a project out of it :)
[12:20] <ikonia> if you want
[12:20] <netman1> PJC80LA08: mount filename.iso mountpoint -o loop
[12:20] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 you need to burn the iso image (choose burn image
[12:20] <paddy_melon> ikonia: the idea is a movable hotspot to give messages, without the need for power
[12:21] <ikonia> well that's going to fail as you'd have to share a 3G connection which is barley enough for 1 laptop, let alone more than one
[12:22] <maddux> ikonia, i just get a line accross my screen that moves with the mouse
[12:22] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:22] <llutz> paddy_melon: look at distros like shorewall and change it to your needs. should be easier than recompiling all the stuff like dd-wrt/openwrt
[12:22] <ikonia> maddux: even with vesa ?
[12:22] <bluephase> how can i stop the file menu appearing every time i open a new terminal?
[12:23] <paddy_melon> what about dd-wrt X86
[12:23] <paddy_melon> idk
[12:23] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you install  a md5sum program in Windows, check your ISO in it, get a code,  compare the code to what Ubuntu provide, if the code is the same your ISO is good
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: a.) it's a pointless exerceise as multiple devices can't share mobile internet as it's too slow b.) it's a lot of effort
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: if you really want to do it though, get stuck in and good luck
[12:24] <PJC80LA08> thank you ubottu for the links - and the others for their input.  sebsebseb, I am in Windows currently.
[12:24] <viktor_> okay, the vnc part is working, afaik, the problem is in the firewall settings i have, im using firestarter. is this a good choice?
[12:24] <erUSUL> !info rosegarden | _raven_
[12:24] <paddy_melon> ikonia, it's not just for the end product, it's also for the fun
[12:24] <paddy_melon> and understanding of how it works
[12:24] <paddy_melon> that's why I use linux mostly
[12:24] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: get going then
[12:24] <paddy_melon> thanks
[12:24] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: a lot of people don't bother with this check stuff, since they don't know that they should do it, also  since ISO's  tend to be good downloads, but not always.
[12:25] <netman1> bluephase: if you are using gnome-terminal use the command line option --hide-menubar
[12:25] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: not much good if  your say half way through installing Ubuntu and  then suddenly a disk error
[12:25] <Spanglish_7776> large files may change on download if there is a glitch on your internet connection though it may say it finished it got corrupt.
[12:26] <netman1> viktor_: Yes. If you think it's the problem then disable it and try again.
[12:26] <_raven_> erUSUL, small and without jack
[12:28] <maddux> ikonia, i only have 2 files with userful.xorg.conf.all ... and .... .one
[12:28] <ricky_ds> Hello all, in kern.log, syslog and messages I have errors like these: "Add.Sense: Logical unit not supported" and "Sense Key: illegal Request [current]". this happens on an ubuntu 9.10 that was upgraded from 9.04. Any hints about what causes these?
[12:28] <thecliff> Can anyone provide insight into the membership process?  I have only been contributing for a few weeks (and have no plans of stopping) but am curious how long it generally takes to apply for membership and be approved.  I am currently helping in the forums, the beginner's team, and the documentation team.
[12:28] <ikonia> maddux: what are the files
[12:29] <ikonia> !memebership | thecliff
[12:29] <maddux> ikonia, these files are the ones to adjust even you login to gui menus and not Xterm?
[12:29] <sebsebseb> ricky_ds: ok I don't know about that stuff, but  what I do know is that quite a lot of people got issues after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, with clean install being the best way to fix the issues.
[12:29] <ikonia> maddux: a.) make sure you're up to date on the broken install from the terminal b.) you may need to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the broken install
[12:30] <ricky_ds> sebsebseb: that's what I was thinking as well. that's also the reason why I mentioned that upgrade
[12:30] <maddux> ikonia, userful.xorg.conf.all and userful.xorg.conf.one and userful.Mxorg.conf
[12:30] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  could you just walk me through the checking of my blank CD, md5sum (I already downloaded the program from Null River), and the burning of the ISO onto the CD - right now?
[12:30] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok has the program given you a code?
[12:30] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: you need to check the ISO before you burn
[12:31] <PJC80LA08> Let me run it.  I did download the ISO straight from the Ubuntu website ...
[12:31] <ikonia> maddux: they won't get read by the xserver
[12:31] <ikonia> maddux: xserver only reads /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: got that Ubuntu hash's link by  any chance?  I usueaully just tell them to go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10 (or whatever the version is)  and say the file is there with the codes,   or go on it myself and give them a direct link
[12:32] <paddy_melon> maddux, I'm no genius at this, but, I had a similar issue and, registered my gconf schema and it was all good
[12:32] <maddux> ikonia, i am a bit confused, you keep saying x or xserver, but when it was operating correctly, i would use the gnome login, not the one saying xterm.    i am not understanding
[12:32] <maddux> paddy, gconf schema?
[12:32] <ikonia> maddux: xserver is the thing that displays ANY graphics
[12:32] <maddux> ikonia, ahhh
[12:32] <reto`> ricky_ds: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1988660.html
[12:32] <ikonia> maddux: if your graphics are mangled, the Xserver is the thing that displays them
[12:33] <maddux> ikonia, so i have not file by that name you gave me, thats bad, right?
[12:33] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[12:33] <maddux> ikonia, does that mean i should copy or look for a copy from the other install?
[12:33] <Seveas> maddux, not necessarily
[12:33] <ikonia> maddux: no no, xorg is dynamic so doesn't normally need a file, sometimes though (especially for debugging) it needs a file to be forced into a specific mode
[12:33] <ikonia> maddux: see if your working install has a file
[12:34] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  K - here's the code: 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906
[12:34] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: compare with the hashes on this page with the version you downloaded: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[12:34] <maddux> ikonia, ok, which one
[12:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: there are two offical links  that provide the code your ISO needs to be,  see the link the message just now from Spanglish_7776   as well as my message before this one, if you want to know about the other webpage with the code
[12:35] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: the hashes have to be identical*
[12:35] <maddux> ok, i applogize my noobiness..i need to be a little spoon fed how to do this
[12:35] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: they need to be a match yes
[12:35] <sebsebseb> teh same code
[12:36] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: uh messaged you when I wanted to message PJC80LA08
[12:36] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[12:36] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: or actsaully I guess not, since I thought you asked a question :D
[12:36] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  Based on the website provided by Spanglish_7776, we have a match!
[12:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok good
[12:36] <maddux> paddy, btw, what is gconf?
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: now burn the contents of the ISO to a blank CD
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> that's a start
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: probably best to use a brand new CD
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> find the function burn image to cd on your cd burning software
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: not say a CD RW that has been wiped
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: I didn't ask, I emphasized (*) I know what's up ;)
[12:38] <PJC80LA08> I have Verbatim CD-R's (higher quality) - here it goes ...
[12:38] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: no they are going to install Ubuntu, and I am making sure they do the whole proccess properly,   burning the CD and partitioning
[12:38] <Spanglish_7776> good luck PJC80LA08
[12:39] <robbit10> Hi people. I just updated Ubuntu, which broke GRUB and now it drops me into the GRUB command line whenever I boot Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[12:39] <bluephase> I'm trying to copy some folders from my iPhone to Ubuntu 9.10 via a WebDav connection.  However if I copy a folder it only generates a link, rather than copying the files themselves?  Can anybody explain this please?
[12:39] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: installing Ubuntu will take about 20 minutes, but  giving the installer all the info might take half an hour or so, depending on you
[12:40] <maddux> ikonia, more info?
[12:40] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway you  put before that you got 28GB  free space?  unpartitioend hard disk space?
[12:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: oh
[12:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: clean install as well?
[12:41] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope when I had just installed it, it booted up fine.
[12:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But the update broke it - I installed it via Wubi.
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: no don't do Wubi
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I am about to tell  PJC80LA08  how to do a proper partitioned install :)
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: they are just burning CD at the moment
[12:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I know how to do that. but I am not allowed to install an OS on that laptop at the moment.
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: oh right well you sort of have, since you did Wubi
[12:42] <cemc> is there a way to use a proxy for apt-get
[12:43] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I meant no dual-booting
[12:43] <hever> how can I download linux kernel staging drivers using git ?
[12:43] <cemc> ...but only if it's available ?
[12:43] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Wubi is dual booting, expect instead of going onto a real partition, it puts itself inside Windows
[12:43] <maddux> ikonia,  those files i told you, i dont see them in the good install
[12:44] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you might even need to use the Windows CD, to get rid of  Wubi propelry
[12:44] <MrBliss> cemc: export http_proxy=your.proxy:port, then run apt-get
[12:44] <sebsebseb> robbit10: after un installing it
[12:44] <jiohdi> robbit10: on several wubi- installs, the boot loader failed after updates
[12:44] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ohh...
[12:44] <robbit10> jiohdi: Including mine
[12:45] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Wubi can mess up on people and oddly, hence one reason why a lot of us don't recommend it
[12:45] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - let's not do the Ubuntu install tonight.  I'm tired - got a crapload to do tomorrow.  Your guidance has been awesome so far, though.  We can hook later on the actual install. Yes, 28 GB of unpartitioned free space.  I have an 80 GB hard drive.  So how do I burn the image of the ISO vs. the ISO itself - onto my CD in Windows?
[12:45] <SatanR1> Hello everyoe, is it possible to install ubuntu onto a 4gb usb ... and keep it as a full running OS .... Ihave been able to make it have a live-persistent mode with casper, but I want it to be full ?
[12:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: imburng will do the image
[12:46] <sebsebseb> imgburn
[12:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Is this a Windows DOS command or an Ubuntu command?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  possible but you will need to tell the insataller where to put Grub. and watch the disk space carfully
[12:46] <PJC80LA08> Linux, I mean ...
[12:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[12:47] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: imgburn is a good graphical program for Windows, for burning ISO's
[12:47] <sebsebseb> contents of ISO's
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08:
[12:47] <SatanR1> Dr_Willis, so you sugest installing straight to the USB and place the grub on the USB too?
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> http://www.imgburn.com/
[12:47] <FloodBot2> Spanglish_7776: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> oops;)
[12:47] <dawit> cruising
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  I would think a persistant save file install would be easier
[12:48] <dawit> I need a free download accelerator
[12:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: as for installation well,  Sunday or whatever I guess,  I will be around in here tommorow Sunday
[12:48] <SatanR1> Dr_Willis, Yes, but I'm not able install apps that way ... or even create my own user name ... it says as 'live session'
[12:48] <SatanR1> I bascially done this method : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  IF you do a 'persistant save' file setup - YES you can install apps and add users,
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  use the ubuntu-usb-disk creator tool Not unetbootin, or follow some guides at pendrivelinux.com
[12:49] <MrBliss> SatanR1: that is strange, I use a isb drive persistently and added programs and users
[12:49] <true\false> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_2.0.0.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb Size mismatch
[12:49] <true\false> Why does it do that whenever I use Ubuntu Software Centre?
[12:50] <SatanR1> hmm Dr_Willis thanks ... I'll give it another go using that method then .... and the built in usb-creator in ubuntu! :)
[12:51] <sebsebseb> true\false: try using  the command?  sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird I think it is
[12:51] <sebsebseb> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[12:51] <guntbert> true\false: first try sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:52] <maddux> my machine crashed, ugg
[12:52] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Once I have permission to install on the laptop, is it better to install Windows 7 first, or Ubuntu first? I want to have them both.
[12:52] <maddux> ikonia, still there?
[12:53] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Windows first
[12:53] <true\false> sebsebseb: Did already ta :) Works just grand
[12:53] <sebsebseb> robbit10: also depending on what you want to do etc,  well  Windows in a virtual machine possibily :)
[12:53] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah, hopefully we can get to my Ubuntu installation sometime this weekend yet.  We have a visitor coming from Wisconsin on Sunday, and Sunday is Valentine's Day (yes, I'm married).  So Saturday (today) later on would be better.  I'm in ImgBurn right now - do I select the option to "Create image file from files/folders" ?
[12:53] <jiohdi> robbit10: windows dont play nice, but ubuntu will allow dual booting with ease
[12:53] <true\false> Now the next issue I have is that Amarok has stopped working, but whatever.. VLC is just grand.
[12:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: yeah I might be here later on
[12:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: and i'll be around in here next week as well
[12:53] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Naw Windows in a VM is too weak for what I want to do with it.
[12:54] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay, i'll install Windows first then.
[12:54] <true\false> guntbert: sudo apt-get update doesn't work actually.. W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ED8B789323DC003
[12:54] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway good after noon for me, and good night for you, I guess :D
[12:54] <kampret> ukuk
[12:55] <sebsebseb> robbit10: what do you want to use it for?
[12:55] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: In ImgBurn, do I select the option to "Create an image file from files/folders?"
[12:55] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Programs such as Photoshop and Adobe Flash, and freeware games and MMORPG's.
[12:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: uhmm  something like that I guess
[12:56] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: the Flash player, or the maker?
[12:56] <guntbert> true\false: temporarily disable that ppa (you can easily do it via system/administration/software sources/other software
[12:56] <robbit10> sebsebseb: The maker. Oh, and recording video's and sound.
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you make Flash :(
[12:56] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I made a few flashes once, haven't done it in a while though.
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: video editing well there's kino and there's uhmm whatever it's called, which will be in the next Ubuntu by default
[12:56] <petsounds> true\false, do you have xine installed? amarok needs xine.
[12:56] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: you want to choose write image file to disc
[12:57] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: thought you would know :)
[12:57] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[12:57] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: I don't have that app in front of me right now etc
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Naw I prefer the more advanced programs which are available on Windows
[12:57] <sebsebseb> robbit10: there's  Blender for 3D moddeling, is that advanced enough for you? :D
[12:57] <true\false> petsounds: It did work yesterday, now it just doesn't.. Which is oddd
[12:57] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  The ISO file is still just the ISO file.  It's not an image file in it's inherent form, is it?
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I also have a device (Line 6 Pod Studio UX1) that is only windows/mac-compatible.
[12:57] <true\false> guntbert: Works ta :)
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Sorry, but i just need windows :P
[12:57] <sebsebseb> robbit10: anyway Photoshop and such you can run in Wine and quite well I think after some setting up maybe.
[12:58] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you can also virtual machine Windows for those apps
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> PCJ80LA08: it's an image of a CD
[12:58] <System-7> For good video editing try Open Movie Editor (well good in slightly above Win Movie Maker)
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> not like a graphics image
[12:58] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ,but if you want to dual boot for those apps, well ok then
[12:58] <maddux> ikonia, downgrading xorg and then return it back...maybe can fix...i am trying
[12:58] <guntbert> true\false: you're welcome :-)
[12:58] <System-7> The OLD Movie Maker, not Live
[12:58] <kampret> id
[12:58] <kampret> dgg
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> like a copy PJC80LA08
[12:58] <true\false> Bah if this was Windows I'd know it was borked and reinstall already.
[12:58] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I need to dual boot for them. My biggest hobby is playing guitar, and many of the apps for that are available only on Windows, and my Direct Input box only works on windows.
[12:59] <timmarshall> i love linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok, but most Windows apps work in a Windows virtual machine,  altough 3D games will be a bit of an issue stil really
[12:59] <System-7> thats great!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776: So it is an image file.  K - writing image file to disc, here goes ...
[12:59] <Spanglish_7776> :)
[12:59] <timmarshall> isnt it just!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <guntbert> !ot
[12:59] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Yes, but my line 6 device, then?
[13:00] <coolguy4> how come ubuntu doesn't have /etc/inittab ?
[13:00] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I don't know about that, but yes it's probably better for you to have a  dual boot
[13:00] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay. So first Windows 7, then Ubuntu. Got it. Thanks :)
[13:01] <guntbert> !inittab | coolguy4
[13:01] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yep otherwise Windows will overwrite the part of Grub that's in the MBR
[13:01] <ehnde> anyone have any idea why pidgin closes unexpectedly when it's not in focus?
[13:01] <sebsebseb> robbit10: master boot record,  and then  that's a bit of an issue to get it on there again
[13:01] <ehnde> i didn't know if this was a bug, or some quirk that i'm causing
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ehnde:  run from terminal, look for error messages
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ehnde:  you sure its not just minimizing to the systemtray?
[13:02] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok np
[13:02] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  UHHH.  So this file is 723,488,768 bytes in size.  My CD-R's capacity is 700 MB.  I have one more on hand that is 700 MB capacity.  Will I be able to copy the entire file onto CD, then?
[13:03] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: should be able to yeah,  Desktop ISO fits on a standard 700MB CD
[13:03] <ehnde> Dr_Willis: good idea, i'll try running it from the terminal, and i tried opening it up with alt+tab, and it did not appear to be running any longer
[13:04] <guntbert> sebsebseb: please what is a " Desktop ISO " ?
[13:04] <MrBliss> PJC80LA08: it should fit  723,488,768 bytes =~690 MB
[13:04] <sebsebseb> guntbert: lol your joking?
[13:04] <sebsebseb> guntbert: the ISO for the Desktop Edition
[13:04] <eliana> hola
[13:04] <sebsebseb> !es | eliana
[13:04] <guntbert> sebsebseb: uhhh - actually I was just beeing dumb :-/
[13:05] <guntbert> *being
[13:05] <eliana> vale
[13:05] <PJC80LA08> K - we have 8 minutes before this CD is done ...
[13:05] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: I thought you had already downloaded it
[13:05] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: well that burn is taking a while
[13:06] <sebsebseb> guntbert: What is Linux? :D
[13:06] <timmarshall> if anyones got msn add me tim-lad@hotmail.com
[13:06] <sebsebseb> timmarshall: Why?
[13:07] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Linux is the up-and-coming OS that will eventually KICK ALL ASS - that's what it is !!!
[13:07] <MrBliss> sebsebseb: I have heard of GNU/linux :-P
[13:07] <sebsebseb> MrBliss: yeah GNU/Linux :)
[13:07] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: it already has the other markets that matter, the server, the super computers etc.   Linux distros are getting there on the desktop.  anyway off topic :D
[13:08] <thecliff> !offtopic
[13:08] <guntbert> sebsebseb: don't rub it in - it hurts :-))
[13:08] <MrBliss> Don't forget the mobile devices
[13:08] <thecliff> :D
[13:09] <sebsebseb> guntbert: eh nevermind a bit of fun I guess :)  plus I know your a good helper here :)
[13:09] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: RIGHT.  Like I just said - Linux is ... KICKING ... M-A-J-O-R ... AAAAASSSSS.
[13:09] <sebsebseb> MrBliss: yeah I was going to put something about mobile in there
[13:09] <guntbert> sebsebseb: :-) I *can* take the heat  - so I stay in the kitchen :-)
[13:10] <conb123> Hiya I'm trying to compile a program from source and it cannot find a file called libserver.la, does anyone know which package i can find this file in?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !find libserver.la
[13:12] <guntbert> !compile | conb123
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> conb123:  looks like you may need to compile the source for the libserver first
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !find libserver
[13:13] <conb123> Dr_Willis: Yeah there is a folder called libserver, but I'm pretty sure it compiles as part of the script
[13:13] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Quick question for you then, as I am almost "outtie".  How will you instruct me on the Ubuntu installation off the LiveCD - if I won't be able to be online during the install?   Are going to like - have a half-hour training session beforehand - during which I document all steps in detail?
[13:13] <guntbert> !info build-essential | conb123 did you install that?
[13:14] <conb123> guntbert: Yes I did
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: heh heh
[13:14] <guntbert> conb123: what are you trying to compile?
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Only one computer?
[13:14] <conb123> guntbert: Globalmenu
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway assuming your Internet works,  you can be on IRC when running installer :)
[13:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: on the Live CD
[13:15] <Spanglish_7776> what did I miss.. lol,
[13:15] <Spanglish_7776> it got "quiet" all of a sudden, had to reconnect.
[13:16] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - I was just thinking that.  I do have another one that is WAY slower (a really old Dell Latitude CS laptop).  I could chat on there I guess too ...  How do you get the IRC to run online in tandem with the installer?
[13:16] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you will run installer put in the details it wants, and create three partitions for Ubuntu, and how I say to make them :)   I could actsauly say now
[13:16] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[13:16] <guntbert> conb123: that doesn't tell me a lot - where did you get the file?
[13:16] <conb123> guntbert: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[13:16] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok right you never been on an Ubuntu Live CD before?
[13:16] <Duxon> Hello! I need help: How can I prevent Nautilus from opening recently plugged in USB-Sticks?
[13:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: by default it boots up into a live session which is Ubuntu running from the CD
[13:17] <conb123> guntbert:0.7.9
[13:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: where people can test their hardware, and do  things whilst  using Ubuntu,  including IRC and  running the installer
[13:18] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  No, I have never been on an Ubuntu LiveCD before.  And the CD just finished, BTW.  Aw hell - do you want to just do the install together now?
[13:18] <coolguy4> where in ubuntu can I configure the ALT-CTRL-Fn sequences? I want to be able to switch to a pseudo-terminal which runs xorg from a chroot
[13:18] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: if you want
[13:18] <FANDER1> guys I want to buy a new laptop and the one I found has this: Mobile Intel GMA 4500M. Is it OK with ubuntu? Cuz I heard it has problems with ubuntu. So what do you think?
[13:19] <FANDER1> This is the laptop:http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/lenovo+g550+led+backlight+dual+core
[13:19] <sebsebseb> FANDER1: hrm
[13:19] <sebsebseb> FANDER1: buying supported hardware right ok, I got a link that should be of some use
[13:19] <guntbert> conb123: did you read and follow the instructions in INSTALL and README?
[13:19] <conb123> guntbert: Yeah
[13:21] <MILLO> HOLA
[13:21] <Spanglish_7776> !es | MILLO
[13:21] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - let's do it!  So I just run the Ubuntu Install CD now from inside Windows?  When/how do I get back on Pidgin to chat with you - once in the LiveCD app?
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[13:22] <MILLO> cuantos años tienes
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you bot your computer from it
[13:22] <sebsebseb> boot
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you might have to go into your BIOS and telll it to boot from CD
[13:22] <geezer_code> hi, all  :)
[13:22] <sebsebseb> !es | MILLO
[13:22] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 do yo have a dell?
[13:22] <MILLO> yo soy español
[13:22] <Rajm> hi
[13:22] <PJC80LA08> No - I have an IBM Thinkpad T43
[13:22] <FANDER1> so does anyone know anything about the compatibility between Ubuntu and  Mobile Intel GMA 4500M?
[13:22] <guntbert> conb123: ./configure runs without errors?
[13:22] <Spanglish_7776> press f12 to get boot menu choose cd/dvdrom
[13:23] <Rajm> i have windows xp and ubuntu install, is it possible for a dual boot
[13:23] <Spanglish_7776> hmm
[13:23] <guntbert> !es | MILLO
[13:23] <sebsebseb> FANDER1   this link might be of some use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/ChoosingHardwareThatWorks
[13:23] <geezer_code> can anybody help me with Ubuntu?
[13:23] <conb123> guntbert: Yes it did, could it possibly be that perl is to earlier a version the configure says this "checking for perl >= 5.8.1... 5.10.0"
[13:23] <dad> maybe
[13:23] <sebsebseb> !ask | geezer_code
[13:24] <geezer_code> thnx
[13:24] <Guest10872> I need to change nameserver in diskless set up
[13:24] <Rajm> i have windows xp and ubuntu installed, is it possible for a dual boot
[13:24] <Guest10872> anyone
[13:24] <PJC80LA08> OK - then once I hit f12 to get into BIOS and choose cd/dvdrom - at what point am I am able to get back online and on Pidgin to chat and continue being guided through the install?
[13:24] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 press the blue button at boot- when the post screen comes up (post is the screen before you see the winxp boot splash screen
[13:25] <guntbert> conb123: my perl version matches but I get a failure with gtk2
[13:25] <Guest10872> PJC yes install windows rthen ubuntu
[13:25] <Guest10872> PJR go read a guid on how to dual boot ther are thousands
[13:25] <geirha> conb123: pastebin the configure output after doing ''make distclean''.   ./configure 2>&1 | pastebinit   (assuming the pastebinit package is installed)
[13:26] <guntbert> conb123: sorry - I gotta go - lunch is ready :-)
[13:26] <Guest10872> I need to change nameserver in diskless set up
[13:26] <sebsebseb> Rajm yes
[13:26] <geezer_code> I use dig domain.local and it writes the ip I need, but PING gives  ping: unknown host projects.local
[13:26] <Guest10872> when I edit resolv.conf its rewritten on reboot
[13:26] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  What is your call?  So I press the Access IBM blue button - and that will bring me into BIOS?
[13:26] <guntbert> conb123: but geirha will take your case - it seems :)
[13:27] <Spanglish_7776> Guest, you may have dhcp getting your settings.
[13:27] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  Rajm
[13:27] <coolguy4> how can I configure the "gui terminals"? eg. CTRL-ALT-F[7-12]
[13:27] <Spanglish_7776> no it will give you choices from where to boot from PJC80LA08
[13:27] <sebsebseb> Rajm  also I am on the verge of helping PJC80LAO8 set up a dual boot, the way I would do it
[13:27] <Guest10872> span it prob is its a diskless mythbuntu setup
[13:28] <Guest10872> and i need to set server as 192.168.1.10
[13:28] <llutz> Guest10872: change your dhcp-settings, clientside supersede dns-nameserver
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: While either of the following messages is displayed at the lower left area of the screen, press the F12 key to display the boot menu:
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> To interrupt normal start-up, press the blue Access IBM™ Lenovo™ button or the enter key.
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F12 to choose temporary boot devicePress F1 for BIOS Setup Utility
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F11 to invoke the Product Recovery program
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F12 to choose temporary boot device
[13:28] <FloodBot2> Spanglish_7776: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  bt my router is 192.168.1.1
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> oops
[13:28] <maggs> damn, in trying to remember how to connect to a new server i forgot my question....
[13:29] <Spanglish_7776> got anxious. ;)
[13:29] <V4mpire> this isn't really the right question for here but someone might know... anyone good with mybb ?
[13:29] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  do you have any exp with diskless
[13:29] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776 :)
[13:29] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm. somehwhat, what's you're question?
[13:29] <conb123> geirha: http://pastebin.com/f660136a8 , there you go
[13:30] <theadmin> Is there an environment variable to reffer to current directory?
[13:30] <llutz> theadmin: PWD
[13:30] <sebsebseb> it's not the same button to access the BIOS on all computers  PJC80LA08
[13:30] <Rajm> thanks ubottu
[13:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, what's you're question?
[13:30] <theadmin> llutz: o_O Completely not self-explanatory :/ Thanks
 I use dig domain.local and it writes the ip I need, but PING gives  ping: unknown host. How can i fix it?
[13:31] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[13:31] <llutz> theadmin: print-working-directory
[13:31] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  clients cannot connect to internet as resolv.conf provides nameserver as 192.168.1.10 and I need 192.168.1.1
[13:31] <theadmin> llutz: But variables don't print anything %) Besides, I don't have a printer
[13:31] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 where are the clients getting the IP settings? DHCP?
[13:31] <llutz> theadmin: its from command "pwd"
[13:32] <Guest10872> yes
[13:32] <theadmin> llutz: I am used to think of "pwd" as of acronym for "password"
[13:32] <llutz> theadmin: fail :)
[13:32] <Spanglish_7776> you need to configure the dhcp server to specify 192.168.1.1 as their dns
[13:32] <Simon1245> Hello everyone, Does anyone know a good ebook for Ubuntu?
[13:32] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: you need to configure the dhcp server to specify 192.168.1.1 as their dns
[13:33] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776  thanks for the button stuff even though you flooded the channel with it,  if PJC80LA08 got into their BIOS as a result of it
[13:33] <Guest10872> 	#
[13:33] <Guest10872> # Default LTSP dhcpd.conf config file.
[13:33] <Guest10872> #
[13:33] <Guest10872> authoritative;
[13:33] <Guest10872> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[13:33] <FloodBot2> Guest10872: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <Guest10872>     range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.250;
[13:33] <geezer_code> жесть блин, и никто значит не знает. придется на форум итти.
[13:33] <aggalitsas85> hi all , I want to connect my wireless in Ubuntu 9.10 could someone send me private mesage to help me ?? thanks
[13:33] <conb123> geirha: Found anything?
[13:33] <PJC80LA08> Access IBM Blue Button.  F12 for temporary boot device.  So now changes in BIOS are needed?
[13:33] <Spanglish_7776> np, I will use paste.ubuntu.com next time ;)
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | aggalitsas85
[13:34] <PJC80LA08> So NO changes in BIOS needed, I mean?
[13:34] <Simon1245> Does anyone know a good ebook for Ubuntu which covers all the basic stuffs?
[13:34] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, so i change dns server to 192.168.1.1
[13:34] <jrib> Simon1245: help.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <theadmin> geezer_code: Не ругайся, и по английски пожалуйста || Don't swear and use english please
[13:34] <maggs> i remembered my question!
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Simon1245:  there are some in the repo
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> yes Guest10872
[13:34] <Simon1245> jrib, Thanks Will check it
[13:34] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, What is Repo?
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> restart the dhcp server when you're done configuring it
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart the dhcp server when you're done configuring it
[13:34] <theadmin> Simon1245: short for Repository
[13:34] <maggs> is there an easy way of seeing if my laptop will run the 64 bit Ubunutu?
[13:35] <theadmin> maggs: There are no 64-bit laptops, if I'm not mistaken
[13:35] <geirha> conb123: Configure output looks good. I downloaded the source meanwhile, and getting the same problem. My best guess is that it's supposed to use libserver/libglobalmenu-server.la ... someone probably changed the name, but forgot to do the same in all files.
[13:35] <Simon1245> theadmin, Sorry, My english isn't good can you explain a bit more about it?
[13:35] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  ok i will try
[13:35] <jessejames> Try booting from the live CD
[13:35] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: no changes to the BIOS, correct
[13:35] <llutz> theadmin: fail again
[13:35] <tp43> maggs, does it a sticker on it that says 64 bit cpu?
[13:35] <theadmin> Simon1245: A thingy you add to software sources... llutz: Huh?
[13:35] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: if you still have issues, let me know.
[13:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 only need to change the BIOS boot order, if CD won't boot, and the CD is a good one
[13:36] <maggs> only sticker i see is "intel centrino duo" tp43
[13:36] <llutz> theadmin: most actual cpus are 64bit, even in laptops
[13:36] <Simon1245> theadmin, I will check the help.ubuntu.com :D Because it's more easier I get back to you if I don't find something i there
[13:36] <theadmin> maggs: Okay, sorry, anyways, what system are you on now?
[13:36] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb he can choose to boot from cd, without having to change the boot order.
[13:36] <jessejames> maggs: I'm running 64-bit on a laptop. Try booting from the 64-bit CD
[13:36] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  K - so what do I do once its booting from the Ubuntu disk.  When will I be able to get back on here to chat and be guided by sebsebseb for all the partition stuff - at what point in the process and how?
[13:36] <Spanglish_7776> if he gets to the boot menu
[13:37] <tp43> install lshw, and then run it and see what it says, if it says 64 bit, there you go
[13:37] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  Is it possible to tave my routers dns server running and dhcp on my linux server
[13:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 can you go on IRC on another computer as well or?
[13:37] <Guest10872> tave *ave
[13:37] <Spanglish_7776> GUEST10872 yes
[13:38] <conb123> geirha: I don't think I have that file
[13:38] <tp43> maggs, cat /pro/cpu
[13:38] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, you can, as long as the dhcp tells the clients what the dns server is. you're good.
[13:38] <Simon1245> jrib, I think this will do in the beginning. Anyways, You know a ebook I could continue with once I readed this so I can learn more?
[13:38] <tp43> maggs, cat /pro/cpuinfo
[13:38] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Yes.  RIGHT.  Let me take a piss (all this discussion is so intense !!!) and get my old laptop top rolling online ... and then I can engage in the process.  A few moments, guys ... be right back ...
[13:38] <theadmin> maggs: On windows, you should run "systeminfo" in command line and see the output.
[13:38] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  I might actsaully make a video showing how to partition my way one day :)  and upload to Youtube or something.
[13:38] <conb123> geirha: Heres my ls for libserver, http://pastebin.com/f2c025dc5
[13:38] <maggs> lshw http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m18c1d043
[13:39] <jrib> Simon1245: theer's not much more you need unless you want to start getting into more advanced stuff
[13:39] <maggs> the width suggests i can use the 64 bit version?
[13:39] <Simon1245> jrib, Does help.ubuntu.com cover the terminal part aswell?
[13:39] <tp43> I have dual core, but cat /proc/cpuinfo only shows one
[13:39] <jrib> !cli | Simon1245
[13:40] <Simon1245> man intro
[13:40] <Guest10872> just rebooted client after changing dns server to 192.168.1.1 in dhcp.conf on server and its still setting nameserver to 1.10
[13:40] <Simon1245> Thank you
[13:40] <theadmin> Simon1245: LOL. Not here. In the terminal.
[13:40] <Simon1245> :D
[13:40] <Simon1245> Sorry lol i'm new to this :D
[13:40] <tp43> jrib, whats so powerful about it?
[13:40] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  or boot up  the Live CD, after doing disk check that should pass :)   the one on CD yeah.   then   get the live session booted, and as long as Internet works,   appliations > assesosries > terminal   sudo apt-get install xchat  (  I use Konversation, but for Live CD might as well just do xchat)
[13:40] <geirha> conb123: for file in libserver/tests/Makefile.*; do ed -s "$file" <<< $',s/libserver\.la/libglobalmenu-server.la/g\nw'; done
[13:40] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 did you restart the dhcp?
[13:41] <Guest10872> haha no
[13:41] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: I think someone beat you to the punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8a-smrPlvE
[13:41] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart ;)
[13:41] <Simon1245> tp43, So powerfull about what?
[13:41] <llutz> Simon1245: www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[13:41] <geirha> conb123: That should replace all occurances of libserver.la to libglobalmenu-server.la. Then do ''make distclean; ./configure && make''
[13:41] <tp43> Simon1245, cli
[13:41] <Simon1245> llutz, Thank you, I will chcek it
[13:41] <jrib> tp43: bash is a scripting language, you can have your computer do a lot by typing very little
[13:41] <maggs> tp43: 13:42:26 < maggs> lshw http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m18c1d043
[13:41] <theadmin> make distclean? What does this do? o_O
[13:41] <sebsebseb> spanglish_7776  I think if I remember correctly that there probably is already something out there for that.
[13:41] <Guest10872> terminal line to restart dhcp?
[13:42] <Guest10872> sorry Im noob
[13:42] <Simon1245> tp43, There you got your answer :D I didn't know the answer aswell :D
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> Guest what version of linux?
[13:42] <Guest10872> karmic
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> or "Flavor"
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> ok
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[13:42] <geirha> theadmin: Usually turns the source tree back to the way it was just after you extracted it
[13:42] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776  right I'll check out that video see if it's any good or not,  guideing people through partitioning really does take time
[13:42] <andrea_> !list
[13:43] <theadmin> geirha: Wow. Thanks, will know, should be useful later
[13:43] <MrBliss> Guest10872: sudo /sbin/dhclient
[13:43] <tp43> maggs, yep, you got 64 bits
[13:43] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  I am going to disconnect now from this computer - because I can only run one computer online (my AT&T modem only has one ethernet port).  I be back in a few minutes ...
[13:43] <JStoone> Guest10872, as Pranglish_7776 says try   "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart"
[13:43] <conb123> geirha: Oh man it worked, your a genius thank you
[13:43] <Guest10872> sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
[13:44] <Guest10872> found it!
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> eh..
[13:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 hold on
[13:44] <Simon1245> Is there any shortkeys to come to the desktop.. Like in Windows there is ctrl + D and it takes you to the desktop.. Is there anything similar in Linux aswell?
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> that will work ;)
[13:44] <VCoolio> Spanglish_7776: on karmic, shouldn't that be "sudo service blah restart" (considering upstart)
[13:44] <maggs> tp43: cheers, i'll give the 64 bit version a play then, see if i can spot any difference in performance or anything else
[13:44] <theadmin> Wonder why /etc/init.d is not in $PATH
[13:44] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  your command karmic no likey!
[13:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 that video might be good enough for you to do this on your own,  I was about to check it out
[13:44] <geirha> conb123: Great :)
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 1 sec
[13:44] <Guest10872> I think this will fix client rebooting now
[13:45] <llutz> theadmin: nobody wants to have init-scripts inside his path, having sometimes  same name as some apps
[13:45] <PJC80LA08> Oh OK - this video mimicks your process - for creating three partitions - or whatever?
[13:45] <geirha> theadmin: Because those scripts aren't meant to be run very often, and only by root
[13:45] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:45] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:45] <theadmin> llutz: Oh. My, I see... Didn't know that they sometimes have same names as apps.
[13:45] <tp43> maggs, I heard there are other things, but I thought 64 bit allows you to use more than 4gig ram, how much ram do you have?
[13:46] <theadmin> avitaozim: Don't flood the channel. Also, what?
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, haha well done problem fixed!
[13:46] <Spanglish_7776> ;) no problem
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  now next problem
[13:46] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  time on clients is 1 hour wrong
[13:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  The only thing about it, though - is this other old laptop is very choppy/slow with video ...
[13:47] <Guest10872> Im in australia and daylight saving is on but clients cant se it!
[13:47] <Spanglish_7776> GUest10872 are you familiar with NTP?
[13:47] <maggs> tp43: 1gig ^^ it's a fairly old laptop :D i'm pretty bored though, and a chance to do a reinstall appeals right now
[13:47] <Guest10872> ntp is installed on server
[13:47] <Guest10872> and on clients image
[13:47] <Tronx_> hello,
[13:48] <bruce> hi!
[13:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no
[13:48] <Spanglish_7776> you have the ntp server running on the server Guest10872?
[13:48] <Spanglish_7776> or just the client?
[13:48] <tp43> maggs, I don't think you need to re-install, you can just install the kernel
[13:48] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:48] <Guest10872> Ive changed ntp.conf  but client dont seem to get time from server which is what I want them to do
[13:48] <frodoleggins> hi guys, there's a ppa for OOo 3.2???
[13:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 only making one partition  in video which the guided install would do anyway etc.
[13:48] <sebsebseb> get the CD booted and i''ll guide you through it
[13:48] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  I have on client image and server
[13:49] <Tronx_> i need to write a script to add # to the last 4 lines in a file, and one that removes them
[13:49] <Tronx_> any suggestions?
[13:49] <JStoone> Hi everyone! I'm having some problem getting my apache online? it is only working on the local network? any suggestions?
[13:49] <tp43> maggs, do apt-cache search linux image, and then pic the one you like, and do apt-get install linux-image-whatever-64-bit
[13:49] <llutz> Tronx_: perl, sed, awk
[13:49] <Emiliano> hi there
[13:49] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872. 1 sec
[13:49] <theadmin> JStoone: Strange. Do you have a public IP? Are you behind a proxy?
[13:49] <maggs> will have a look, thanks tp43, will do a back up first though, just in case
[13:50] <JStoone> maggs, remember to do the   "sudo apt-get install" if you are not logged in as root
[13:50] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  So you are saying that if I brought up the webpage with the guided install on my other old laptop - and did it by only making one partition - I will be fine?
[13:50] <hiems> Hello... I'm trying to put an command that asks for user input (a password) in an upstart script, Ubuntu Karmic... it looks like the scripts goes on but the password request is unattended... Ideas?
[13:50] <Davide__45> Cyao, un saluto a tutto il canale!
[13:50] <Emiliano> anyone from argentina?
[13:50] <llutz> JStoone: portforwarding enabled in your router?
[13:50] <tp43> maggs, I had a look, it looks like it the same kernel, 64 bit and 32 bit anyway, so you already got it
[13:50] <Davide__45> !list
[13:51] <frodoleggins> hey, please, tell me that someone is packaging OO3.2
[13:51] <JStoone> theadmin, yes I've got a public IP (witch I find at WhatIsMyIP).  I don't think that I am behind a proxy..
[13:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you don't want a seperate /home just use the guided install
[13:51] <Tronx_> llutz : how about a more comprehensive suggestion :)
[13:51] <helen> can anyone help me with lm-sensors?
[13:51] <Tronx_> as in , how not just using what llutz
[13:51] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me,,, java ,delphi,php
[13:51] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me,,, java ,delphi,php
[13:52] <JStoone> llutz, yes I am but all the ports are forwarded correcly. I called my ISP and asked if they were forwarded and they said yes.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> avitaozim:  there are channels for each of those languagesa
[13:52] <jrib> avitaozim: stop doing that.  If you have a support question, just ask it in the channel
[13:52] <helen> acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:       +40.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)    <-- in windows I have 4 sensors excluding the hdd's
[13:52] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Just quickly clarify again - what is the convenience in having the /home?
[13:52] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: did you configure the ntpd server ?
[13:52] <Simon1245> llutz, Ubuntupocketguide is for 8.04 LTS and 8.10
[13:52] <llutz> Tronx_: pseudo-code: tail -4 yourfile| sed 's/^/#/' >newfile
[13:52] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, I have tried
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> PJC80LA08:  If you reinstall youi can keep your old /home
[13:52] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: this may help. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-time-protocol-ntp-server-and-clients-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[13:52] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you want one it will be set up in manual install,, which i'll tell you how to do,  it's not that difficult
[13:52] <Simon1245> llutz, Does it matter?
[13:53] <sunil> Dr_Willis: I am new to irc
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> PJC80LA08:  i keep my /home on its own Hard drive
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  So?
[13:53] <llutz> Simon1245: you want to read about some basics? it shouldn't matter then
[13:53] <JStoone> theadmin, I've also got a problem getting my vsftpd online, that's also local only, and both port 20 and 21 is forwarded correctly.
[13:53] <Simon1245> llutz, Ok thank you
[13:53] <theadmin> JStoone: Strange.
[13:53] <Simon1245> llutz, What do you recommend? Reading the book or help.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <JStoone> theadmin: very.. I'm thinking that it is my .conf file or something?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Simon1245:  i say yes to both :) but online is cheaper.. there are books online you can find also
[13:54] <Spanglish_7776> theadmin, do you have ssh server installed on the server you have the vsftpd installed?
[13:54] <llutz> Simon1245: read whatever you mean it will help you. theres information all over the net, you just have to filter it :)
[13:54] <avitaozim> where it is the narrow channel
[13:54] <sunil> How  can i share my folders on Local Area Network in Ubuntu?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !samba | sunil
[13:54] <MrBliss> Jstoone: try telnet yourip:port
[13:54] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, llutz, You both are right
[13:54] <theadmin> What the? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Firefox-strange.png (Error message states: "Content type failure: Page which you are trying to view cannot be shown due to a wrong compression method. Please contact the website owners and let them know of this problem")... On Opera it works fine... !?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  in theory, right click,, use the shareing option. but i never do it that way
[13:55] <sunil> How do i Install samba?
[13:55] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, llutz I will see what I find intresting the book or the help.ubuntu
[13:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  1.  check the disk you burned is good using the disk checker on the CD once the computer has booted from the CD.  2.   boot up the live session on the CD  try Ubuntu without touching hard disk option  3.  open Firefox try Internet should work.  Any  hardware issues tell me here on IRC.   4.  Install Xchat onto the Live CD already told you how to do that, or just do IRC on another computer.  5.  Install Ubuntu
[13:55] <Spanglish_7776> theadmin: I've had an issue in the past and i figured out that when ssh server is on the machine and i installed vsftpd it used sftp (port22)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  fire up package manager.. look for and install 'samba'
[13:55] <avitaozim> vlw
[13:55] <sunil> ok
[13:55] <Tronx_> llutz : should i use tmp files now with this ? because i wanted to edit the same file not create on with the last 4 lines commented.
[13:56] <theadmin> Spanglish_7776: I think you're mistaken, I'm not the person with this problem, JStoone is
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> !paste | Guest10872
[13:56] <JStoone> MrBliss, is it then my non local port?
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> oh sorry
[13:56] <twinforce> sunil: you could also do "sudo apt-get install samba"
[13:56] <llutz> Tronx_: read "man sed", you can use it without tmpfiles
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 paste your config there for ntp and i'll take a look.
[13:56] <Tronx_> ok
[13:56] <twinforce> sunil: and "sudo apt-get install samba4"
[13:56] <MrBliss> JStoone: the prot apache should be listening on
[13:57] <twinforce> I am not sure which one is the one that you want, but you could try both
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !info samba
[13:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:57] <sunil> twinforce: thanks
[13:57] <sunil> Dr_Willis: thanks
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | sunil
[13:57] <JStoone> MrBliss, what is the default apache listening port?
[13:58] <Guest10872> sorry deeep in ntp.conf... I jhad reconfig hours ago but didnt restart
[13:58] <Guest10872> rebooting client
[13:58] <MrBliss> Jstoone: 80, the command would be telnet someip 80
[13:58] <Guest10872> it might be ok
[13:58] <amjad> hello is anyone having problem connecting with aim using pidgin on jaunty (9.04), i get connection time out error
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> always good idea to restart Guest10872
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> wunil: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> sunil: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> might help
[13:58] <twinforce> JStoone: also try port 8080, if port 80 doesn't work
[13:58] <Guest10872> HMM I know.............wonders why things dont work......
[13:58] <coolguy4> hi, I want to run x in a chroot
[13:59] <Guest10872> no time still wrong
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  dare we ask why?
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 you also configured the client right?
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> to check the server?
[13:59] <coolguy4> dr_willis: because I am installing debian in a chroot and I want to configure a few things
[13:59] <Guest10872> link to paste bin Ill put servers first
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[13:59] <Guest10872> yes i did
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> !paste Guest10872
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> !paste | Guest10872
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  hmm im not sure thats the same thing.. why are you doing debisn in a chroot instead of simthing easier like using virtualbox?
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> post the link when you've pasted yoru config
[14:01] <Guest10872> I need alink to pastebin sorry nevre used
[14:01] <JStoone> twinforce, how do I change the listeining port then?
[14:01] <milad> Hi every one ,, i have a problem with screen resolution ,, the maximum resolution is 800*600 and i have a wide screen with res of 1400 * 900 ,, i have ubuntu and nvidia card
[14:01] <Spanglish_7776> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> milad:  for some of my nvidia ystems. i have to install the nvidia drivers befor the wide screen ress are detected properly
[14:01] <coolguy4> dr_willis: If I use virtualbox then the drivers will be setup for the virtualised hardware instead of the native hardware
[14:01] <twinforce> JStoone: it should be an option in the Apache configuration file, give me a second I'll pull up the default location for the config file
[14:01] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: netstat -a in command line and see if yousee something like :www listed
[14:02] <Guest10872> http://paste.ubuntu.com/375496/
[14:02] <Spanglish_7776> will show you if the port is open
[14:02] <Tek-5-8-6> When seting up partitions on Ubuntu 9.10, what is the best file system to use ? EXT4, EXT3, EXT2 ?
[14:02] <anuta> hola
[14:02] <JStoone> MrBliss, when I type  "telnet 83.93.xx.xx 80" it outputs "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  so? Im not clear on why you are doing this song and dance really.  Or what you8 are really trying to do.
[14:02] <Out_Cold> ugh... 7am, saturday morning.. it appears I was the only one to go to bed yesterday
[14:02] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, ks for all your help
[14:02] <mnaines> If I have nine spreadsheet tabs on the same file, how do I split them up into their own individual files?
[14:02] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, best is subjective.. so whatever works for you is best
[14:02] <hobbit> milad: did you install the nvidia specific drivers?  I ran into some problems with my nvidia board as well
[14:02] <anuta> holaaa
[14:02] <anuta> me aburro
[14:03] <twinforce> /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf is the file your looking for Jstoone
[14:03] <Out_Cold> !es | anuta
[14:03] <tp43> was there a new release already I just installed last week, and just now I did dist upgrade, and it put a new kernel
[14:03] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, Do you got a site aswell?
[14:03] <coolguy4> dr_willis: well i found docs that explain how to do this on arch, but ubuntu doesn't use /etc/iniitab .
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  new kernels for various bugs/security issues
[14:03] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, And you usually go by Breez? Is that you?
[14:03] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: no problem. you're on 192.168.1.0/24 subment
[14:03] <Spanglish_7776> subnet?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> !initab
[14:03] <MrBliss> JStoone: ok so somewhere in the network your request gets refused
[14:03] <B3rz3rk3r> Simon1245, think you have the wrong person mate
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  ubuntu uses upstart and no inittab any more
[14:03] <Guest10872> my router is 192.168.1.1
[14:03] <anuta> helow
[14:04] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, Oh ok, Nvm :P Just wanted to know if the was the guy I knew :D
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[14:04] <coolguy4> dr_willis: I know, and upstart seems very complicated
[14:04] <Guest10872> mythbuntu dhcp server is 1.10
[14:04] <anuta> in spanish
[14:04] <MrBliss> Jstoone: if you do: "netstat -an | grep -i listen", you should see the various listening ports
[14:04] <Tek-5-8-6> B3rz3rk3r : i know nothing about any of them. Not sure if anybody knew. I will be using it as a file server
[14:04] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  192.168.1.10 I should say
[14:05] <xover> how can i restart the network manager from the command line?
[14:05] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: gotcha, 1 sec
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> xover:  perhaps 'sudo service network restart'
[14:05] <anuta> en espaañol
[14:05] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, you may try to disable daylight savings.
[14:05] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, network-manager no?
[14:06] <Spanglish_7776> see if that helps since it's getting it's time from ntp
[14:06] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, if you dont know the difference then i wouldnt worry about too much. Personally i use EXT2 for my storage and, EXT3 for server drives and EXT4 for workstations
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  perhaps 'sudo service network??? restart' Not sure what one to use , networking, or network-manager
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  try them and see
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  if i try one.. i may get hung up from here. :)
[14:07] <xover> service returns, unrecognised service
[14:07] <xover> where do i define services?
[14:07] <Out_Cold> xover, can always use the old way "sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[14:07] <Out_Cold> "
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  sudo service network-manager restart
[14:07] <Tek-5-8-6> B3rz3rk3r : ok, I have it set up on a RAID 1 configuration with 2 1 gig SATA drives. will EXT3 be the best bet still ?
[14:07] <xover> Out_Cold: I only have networking and that doesnt work
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  sudo service networking restart
[14:07] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776 I need dlsaving else all recording on mythbuntu server will be bad
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  other then that. not sure
[14:07] <VCoolio> xover: let it autocomplete with tab
[14:07] <anuta> alguien que hable español??
[14:08] <Out_Cold> !es
[14:08] <JStoone> !paste | JStoone
[14:08] <xover> Tek-5-8-6: your FS makes no difference, RAID runs at a lower level than the FS.
[14:08] <xover> that only works when you predefine your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:08] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, again as i said before, there is no "best", but yes, EXT3 will work just fine for that setup
[14:08] <xover> the network manager is handling my interfaces, but that doesnt seem to restart it
[14:09] <Out_Cold> xover, i believe so.. what are you trying to reset?
[14:09] <xover> B3rz3rk3r: what size data are you storing on your RAID?
[14:09] <Tek-5-8-6> thanks for your help
[14:09] <anuta> en españool
[14:09] <Guest10872>  no problem. you're on 192.168.1.0/24 subnet? do I change 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.0/24?ent
[14:09] <xover> Out_Cold: my wireless connection
[14:09] <marcus_> hello :) I've run into a problem when trying to run fsck.ext4 on my /dev/md0-device. it fails with this error message "Error determining size of the physical device: File too large" its a rather large device, around 18TB
[14:09] <xover> I want it to disconnect and reconnect
[14:09] <marcus_> I'm not sure how to proceed
[14:09] <Out_Cold> xover, in gnome?
[14:09] <Seveas> marcus_, 64 bit system?
[14:09] <xover> no, not from X
[14:09] <marcus_> Seveas: yes
[14:09] <marcus_> Seveas: Linux hq 2.6.31-19-server #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 03:40:48 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:10] <BluesKaj> xover, sudo dhclient wlan0/eth0 should start it
[14:10] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 I mean on the clients
[14:10] <xover> BluesKaj: I dont use DHCP
[14:10] <Seveas> I think something in fsck.ext4 doesn't like drives of that size yet. Would be odd though
[14:10] <Out_Cold> xover, then i would sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:10] <JStoone> MrBliss, this is some of output http://paste.ubuntu.com/375498/
[14:10] <B3rz3rk3r> xover, it was Tek-5-8-6 that needed the help
[14:10] <BluesKaj> xover, neither do I , I use static but it still works on eth0
[14:11] <JStoone> MrBliss, want the rest of the output?
[14:11] <xover> Out_Cold: that does not work as the networkmanager stores the interface details, that only works if you configure the cards in 'interfaces'
[14:11] <MrBliss> Jstoone: ok yourbox is listening on port 80
[14:11] <marcus_> Seveas: my google-foo turned up this rather unsetteling article: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ext4/12763
[14:11] <Out_Cold> xover, wrong
[14:11] <marcus_> Seveas: might it be that its still some troubles left over from that?
[14:11] <Out_Cold> xover, ifup and ifdown use /etc/interfaces
[14:11] <MrBliss> Jstoone: do you have a router in your network?
[14:11] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, http://paste.ubuntu.com/375501/
[14:12] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  this is clients
[14:12] <Guest10872> I edited last 2 lines only
[14:12] <Tek-5-8-6> The data on the drive will be accessed by many users, The main OS is on a 50Gig partition with a 3 gig swap. Then the data will sit on the rest of the 900 + Gig partition
[14:12] <lantizia> Hey I know theres really basic non-DE type things like fluxbox... does anyone know of one (i.e. not gnome/kde/lxde/xfce - but simpler) that is also freedesktop.org menu spec driven?
[14:12] <JStoone> MrBliss, Yes sadly I has..
[14:12] <JStoone> MrBliss, Yes sadly I have*
[14:12] <Seveas> marcus_, did you resize the filesystem then?
[14:13] <marcus_> Seveas: no, didnt get that far
[14:13] <MrBliss> Jstoone: is that configured correctly?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  thers smaller window managers.. but as for a 'de' lxde is about as tiny as you get.
[14:13] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 you have to specify you're server on the clients is the time on mythubuntu correct?
[14:13] <marcus_> I was going to run the scan first, then resize
[14:13] <ziroday> lantizia: openbox?
[14:13] <lantizia> Dr_Willis, no I don't want a DE
[14:13] <Seveas> marcus_, which ubuntu version?
[14:13] <marcus_> 9.10
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  unless you some how make up you rown from wm/filemanager/launchers
[14:13] <MrBliss> Jstoone: i.e. does it forward port 80 to your server
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  The look for the various window managers out there.
[14:13] <Seveas> !info e2fsprogh karmic
[14:13] <Seveas> !info e2fsprogs karmic
[14:13] <mmaksimov> hi. something happened with my keyboard input. i was moving a windows to another workspace via ctrl-alt-shift-arrow, and it freezed, i mean, stopped moving. apparently, the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys now. i don't want to reboot the system. any suggestions?
[14:13] <lantizia> ziroday, Dr_Willis, yeah I want it as basic as can be... but can actually understand the freedesktop menu structure
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  some unclude tools to genreate menus from the desktop.org desktop configs
[14:14] <papa> hola
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  not sure of any that use the .desktip stuff by default.
[14:14] <Seveas> marcus_,  that version includes those patches, so I think the gmane article is irrelevant
[14:14] <ziroday> lantizia: sounds like openbox to me
[14:14] <JStoone> MrBliss; Yes, I called my ISP some days ago and I asked if Port 20, 21, 80 and 8080 was open and he  said yes.
[14:14] <marcus_> Seveas: was thinking a bug that extensive might still have some quirks left behind
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  there are teh xdxg (?) tools that can convert *.desktop to various menu formats used by many wms
[14:14] <Guest10872> On the mythbuntu server the yime is correct
[14:15] <twinforce> JStoone: who is your ISP?
[14:15] <cryptk> so I think I really finally killed my mouse freeze problem...
[14:15] <cryptk> Legacy USB
[14:15] <cryptk> unfortunately now I cannot select other OS's from grub...
[14:15] <Guest10872> I need to add in the server list? and remove the pool ones
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  a Legacy you will never forget?
[14:15] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, lol
[14:15] <simo_> irc://irc.xtremespeeds.net:6667/xtremespeeds
[14:15] <JStoone> twinforce, I'm from Denmark. They are called YouSee
[14:15] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  yep. seen that issue in the past. cant use keyboard in gryb but bios works..
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  once i tried that setting.. windows wouldent even boot properly
[14:15] <chiiiiiz> I need help on video transcoding with avidemux!!!
[14:15] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: does mythubuntu have a FQDN? (server.domain.com)
[14:16] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, your saying that windows required Legacy USB? lol
[14:16] <twinforce> JStoone: ahhhh, I'm not familiar with them. I know in the US that most of our major ISPs prohibit traffic on those ports
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: if so use the FQDN if not use the IP
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  No - windows wouldent boot If i had legacy enabled.
[14:16] <twinforce> unless you have business accounts
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: server mythubuntu ip
[14:16] <cryptk> ahh, so it required it to be off...
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: and comment out the rest
[14:16] <JStoone> twinforce, well I can give them a call again?
[14:16] <chiiiiiz> I have loads of video in wmv (TV programs), and my multimedia hard disc can onbly read avi, so I am trying to transcode my wmv into avi...
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  on an old pc. I had to get a ps2 keyboard just to get  to the grub options/menus :)
[14:17] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: see if that helps, don't forget to restart the ntp server.
[14:17] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, ah ok thanks
[14:17] <Spanglish_7776> clients*
[14:17] <cryptk> I know Grub2 has alot of features that original grub didn't... I wonder if there is a way to give it USB HID capability bypassing the Legacy USB requirement
[14:17] <twinforce> JStoone: do they have a website with a FAQ or terms of service, because you can search there. You could also search for it on Google
[14:17] <chiiiiiz> But I have a problem with the audio that is not sync with the video anylonger, while it is perfect on the original wmv... any idea?
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  'avi' is a container as is wmv you need to learn what codec you need to convert them to . and any other limits of the device
[14:17] <JStoone> Yea, I'll take a look around (:
[14:18] <stevemc> goodmorning, Is there any way to get the wifi on my laptop to connect without giving the master password for the keyring everytime I boot?
[14:18] <chiiiiiz> Dr_Willis: Thanks... Ok, so... where shall I start from?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  the ffmpeg and mencoder homepage/docs/faq i have seen some sections on audio sync issues
[14:18] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, I'm seeing you have an issue with apache?, I'd like to try and help, what's the issue again?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  video 'encoding' is a very deep topic. all sorts of little things to watch out for,
[14:19] <marcus_> Seveas: anything I can do to give more information? I sort of know how to use the ubuntu server, but not how to figure out stuff like this :)
[14:19] <JStoone> Spanglish_776: My main problem is that none of the servers I hold want to go online.. my vsftpd is only local, my apache is only local and my Subsonic server is also only local.. :S
[14:20] <chiiiiiz> What does it depend on? the original codec? The size?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  it can.  and theres different codecs you can use for audio and so forth
[14:20] <mmaksimov> the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys. mouse and everything else seems ok. i don't want to reboot. any suggestions?
[14:20] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: can you access them from within the LAN?
[14:20] <Seveas> marcus_, sorry, but I have no clue how to debug this further :(
[14:20] <twinforce> JStoone: silly question, but does your computer go through a router?
[14:21] <marcus_> Seveas: thanks for the try anyway :) you have any idea how I should proceed?
[14:21] <MrBliss> Jstoone: I have a router from my ISP but I have to configure it myself
[14:21] <marcus_> Seveas: bug-report?
[14:21] <JStoone> Spanglish_7776: Yes, my moms boyfriend has a MAC and it can acces all my servers without any problems..
[14:21] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: that was my next question if you have a router have you forwarded the ports to the internal servers?
[14:21] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  how can i check client is using ntp?
[14:22] <Guest10872> time is still 1 hour wrong
[14:22] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, 1 sec
[14:22] <Seveas> marcus_, backup, pray and reformat. Maybe use a different fs. I think a bugreport is only useful if there's more data to gather, but try finding existing bugreports
[14:22] <Guest10872> after restart and changing server
[14:22] <marcus_> Seveas: backup isnt really an option :/ its 18 TB of data on a raid 6
[14:22] <Guest10872> I changed to server 192.168.1.10 which is server and commented out others
[14:23] <Seveas> buy another 18TB. Gives you some room for growth too ;)
[14:23] <JStoone> twinforce: Yes I am behind a router but I called my ISP and they told me all the ports I asked for are Open..
[14:23] <marcus_> Seveas: HAHA!
[14:23] <marcus_> Seveas: thanks ;) I'll go dig for bug-reports now
[14:23] <Seveas> (It's what we at work do. We love terabytes.)
[14:23] <twinforce> JStoone: that only applies to wether or not they block them. Did you check to see if the applicable ports were port forwarded?
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> Gguest10872: try ntpq -p localhost in the terminal on the clinet
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> client*
[14:23] <tinotinoti> HOLA
[14:23] <JStoone> MrBliss, Well my ISP, YouSee, are sooo 'genious' that they won't let me configure it by myself.
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> sorry
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 ntpq -p 192.168.1.10
[14:24] <Seveas> hello tinotinoti, what can we do for you?
[14:24] <tinotinoti> HELLO
[14:24] <JStoone> No, how can I check that?
[14:24] <twinforce> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 might help you JStoone
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> !es | tinotinoti
[14:24] <marcus_> Seveas: dumpe2fs hangs after journal size... can that be relevant?
[14:24] <Guest10872> connection refused?
[14:25] <Seveas> marcus_, I would not be surprised if it were
[14:25] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  connection refused
[14:25] <mmaksimov> the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys. mouse and everything else seems ok. i don't want to reboot. any suggestions?
[14:25] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: let me take another look at the server conf, 1 sec
[14:25] <Seveas> mmaksimov, restart the X server
[14:25] <cryptk> hrm... I am seeing lots of issues with Legacy USB enabled on 64 bit ubuntu with mouse and keyboard freeze...
[14:25] <mmaksimov> Seveas; how?
[14:26] <Clarissa> Ciao a tutti
[14:26] <Seveas> mmaksimov, log out and log back in
[14:26] <Seveas> hello Clarissa
[14:27] <cryptk> so it seems that a bug in the 64 bit version is causing USB HID problems with Legacy USB enabled... solution, disable Legacy USB... then you have replaced one problem with another one because now you won't be able to use GRUB or GRUB2
[14:27] <Soul_Sample> is there a way to configure more than 12 keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[14:28] <JStoone> twinforce, What site is this? It onlt tells me that my refresh button is disabled for security purposes? haha..
[14:29] <twinforce>  JStoone: oh, this is a website that checks to see what ports are open to the Internet. You could just skip this, and go into the configuration of your router and find settings that are called "port forwarding"
[14:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: uncomment #restrict 192.168.123.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust on the server and configure it to be restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust
[14:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart server and client
[14:31] <cryptk> seems like it is possible to enable USB device support in grub2
[14:32] <kaki> cryptk !!!!
[14:32] <kaki> please
[14:32] <CAPcap> how do i remove LXDE?
[14:32] <kaki> how i can sync my pocket PC with ubuntu
[14:32] <francisco1> olaaa
[14:32] <twinforce> i'll bbl
[14:33] <twinforce> JStoone: if you need more help, Google your router model and port forwarding
[14:33] <fabiosl> does anyone have Namoroka installed?
[14:33] <Guest10872>  ntpq -p 192.168.1.10 gives a whole heap of info
[14:33] <JStoone> twinforce. Thankyou (:
[14:33] <Guest10872> now!
[14:33] <Spanglish_7776> cool
[14:33] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, time ok? or still off?
[14:34] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, time still off
[14:34] <marcus_> Seveas: 4k blocksize, thats why it fails. will give a 16tb max size on the fs
[14:35] <Guest10872> Ill restart server
[14:35] <Seveas> marcus_, ooh, well found! How did you realize that?
[14:36] <ubuntu> i did shrink mac disk . do i need to install grub when i install ubuntu?
[14:36] <marcus_> Seveas: lets just say I've tapped into every friend i have in the "hack linux to work no matter what"-field
[14:36] <marcus_> one of them just asked me to do the dumpe2fs and grep for block size
[14:37] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: did you uncomment #broadcast 192.168.123.255 on the server as well? make sure it's confgured broadcast 192.168.1.255
[14:37] <marcus_> Seveas: is it possible to make the block size larger without loosing the FS?
[14:38] <ehnde> i was just reading a pdf file, scrolling through it, and it closed
[14:38] <ehnde> same thing has been happening when i use pidgin
[14:38] <ehnde> anyone know what could cause that?
[14:38] <kaki> like what for example ? ehnde
[14:38] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: welcome back
[14:38] <CAPcap> how do i fully remove LXDE?
[14:39] <marcus_> Seveas: some of them just arnt very patient, so when he gave me the answer he didnt feel like helping more :P
[14:39] <marcus_> "friends" ^^
[14:39] <ehnde> kaki: the application closed
[14:39]  * Guest_52558  maybe the pidgin needs better quality seeds
[14:39] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I'm back on now - on my old computer.  You still there?
[14:39] <marduuk> good morning
[14:40] <kaki> try to reinstall it
[14:40] <ehnde> kaki: it closed while i was using it, nothing more than scrolling through the document using my mouse wheel
[14:40] <marduuk> quick question for the gurus
[14:40] <ehnde> kaki: i don't think it's isolated to one package because both pidgin and the pdf reader included with ubuntu are exiting while i use them
[14:40] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  Good to be back - especially since I'm finally going to be able to use my computer with Ubuntu !!!
[14:41] <marduuk> im trying to reinstall ubuntu but it will only read my drives as a raid for one... if i unplug all but 1 drive and install it refuses to install grub or lilo
[14:41] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: awesome ;)
[14:41] <JStoone> twinforce: Shit I cannot remember my routers Username and Passowrd... isn't there some cracking commands to find out xD
[14:41] <kaki> is it close but you  steel connect ??
[14:41] <marcus_> JStoone: reset it
[14:41] <Spanglish_7776> almight reset, always fun ;)
[14:42] <JStoone> marcus... is that the only way?
[14:42] <Out_Cold> JStoone, there is a hard reset feature, anything else can be considered unlawful and off topic
[14:42] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776: Has sebsebseb been gabbin' while I've been out? Or has he stepped away?
[14:42] <ehnde> kaki: nope, i was talking to a friend and they said that i went offline
[14:42] <marcus_> JStoone: I would think so
[14:42] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, did you change the default?
[14:42] <ehnde> strange, huh?
[14:42] <yaurero> hola a todos soy novato en esto por favor ayuda
[14:42] <ziroday> !es | yaurero
[14:42] <JStoone> Spanglish_7776: Yes I think my moms boyfriend did..
[14:42] <Pudgy> Hi all, I'm a bit a a loss how you should start programs and tag them at the same time in wmii (3.6) from wmiirc. Does anyone have that solved?
[14:42] <yaurero> si hay alguien que entienda el español
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08I haven't seen him talking, he may of stepped away.
[14:43] <Pudgy> Solutions from google are not clear on this.
[14:43] <yaurero> ok gracias
[14:43] <kaki> you didn't find it in system tray ???
[14:43] <marduuk> anyone? is it a partitioning issue?
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, guess? (yea, I know not helpful)
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> I don't know of anything to hack routers but doesn't mean there isn't anything. I'd ask moms bf ;)
[14:43] <ehnde> kaki: no, it's not in the system tray
[14:44] <Out_Cold> JStoone, there are brute force methods for cracking routers but again.. wrong place to ask
[14:44] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  OK - do you mind if I confer with you then - to continue with my Ubuntu install?
[14:44] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08. I
[14:44] <ehnde> kaki: ps x | grep pidgin (and pdf) shows no running process
[14:44] <JStoone> Out_Cold: thanks, but a little hard..
[14:44] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: I'll give it a go
[14:44] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ?
[14:45] <Blue112> Grub tells me "Unknown symbol grub_env" or something like that
[14:46] <rambo298> i've lost my pam and pam.d directory. i've tried everything to recover (even loaded the source pkg, rebuilt and installed) but nothing recreates pam.d. is there a way without reinstalling ubuntu?
[14:47] <Tek-5-8-6> What is different about ubuntu 9.10 DVD from the normal ubuntu 9.10 CD ?
[14:47] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  OK - I didn't get to pushing the blue Access IBM button before the welcome screen showed up for the Ubuntu installation.  So on my Thinkpad - I'm at that welcome screen right now.  I have the following options: "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer", "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory" "Boot from first hard disk".  At the bottom of the screen it reads "Press f4 to select alterna
[14:47] <Blue112> More software included Tek-5-8-6
[14:47] <rambo298> anyone help on pam and pam.d?
[14:48] <Tek-5-8-6> Ahh and drivers ?
[14:48] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer
[14:48] <Spanglish_7776> iPJC80LA08: it will boot the LiveCD
[14:48] <Blue112> Tek-5-8-6: Not sure.
[14:48] <kaki> ehnde
[14:48] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[14:49] <kaki> try this         http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2008-April/001118.html
[14:49] <ehnde> kaki: yes sir?
[14:49] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:49] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  These are the instructions that sebsebseb gave me before I left the chat room: 1.  Check the disk you burned is good using the disk checker on the CD once the computer has booted from the CD.  2.  Boot up the live session on the CD  try Ubuntu without touching hard disk option  3.  open Firefox try Internet should work.  Any  hardware issues tell me here on IRC.  4.  Install Xchat onto the Live CD already told
[14:50] <ehnde> kaki: ok thank you i will try running pidgin like that and monitor it closely
[14:50] <PJC80LA08> I do also want to have Ubuntu on a partition if possible - and keep Windows XP in tact ...
[14:50] <kaki> ok friend good luck
[14:51] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:52] <PJC80LA08> OK - both of the users that were helping me are no longer on.  Can anyone else help me with my Ubuntu installation?
[14:52] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ? It says "Can't find symbol blah blah"...
[14:53] <BluesKaj> PJC80LA08, have you partitioned your HDD yet to make room for ubuntu and swap?
[14:53] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[14:53] <phong_> hey guys how to register a username
[14:53] <khamael> how can I safely remove pulseaudio?
[14:53] <Guest68989> ntp time wrong on mythbuntu clients
[14:54] <Guest68989> time is correct on mythbuntu server
[14:54] <Blue112> !pulseaudio
[14:54] <Blue112> Fail.
[14:54] <Guest68989> time is 1 hour wrong on clients beacuse of daylight savings
[14:54] <Guest68989> help me please!
[14:54] <enzotib> ops: andi_07 spams in query
[14:54] <user__> how do I search in a folder?
[14:54] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 hi again
[14:55] <Seveas> enzotib, you'll want to put a ! in front of ops or join #ubuntu-ops
[14:55] <PJC80LA08> BluesKaj:  No, I haven't done any partitioning yet.  I have 28 GB of free space.  I currently just chose the option on the welcome screen to "Try Ubuntu without any change to my computer".
[14:55] <khamael> Blue112: whenever i run spotify via wine, I can`t get sound in firefox. the wine channel said I had to remove pulseaudio
[14:55] <enzotib> Seveas: thank you, I know, but don't want to be too hard
[14:55] <Seveas> enzotib, spammers should be banned :)
[14:56] <enzotib> yeah
[14:56] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:56] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ? It says "error the symbol 'grub_env_find' not found"
[14:57] <user__> why is there no "Search this folder" in the right klick menu when browsing folders on the computer?
[14:57] <CAPcap> can i safely remove xubuntu-gdm-theme which is like the greeting/login screen with first changing back to the ubuntu login as my default?
[14:58] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  check CD first, make sure that passe's then boot up the live session
[14:58] <WierdAAR> user_: in ubuntu there should be a search function in the filemanager
[14:58] <CAPcap> note: the ubuntu login screen is still installed, i was hoping it would automatically revert
[14:59] <BluesKaj> PJC80LA08, I use gparted live cd to do my partitioning , it's safe and effective . I can't say how good the ubuntu live cd is at partitioning , so I can't advise you on it's use. reboot into windows download gparted live cd and then use it to resize, format to ext4 and make a small swap paririon if you wish.
[14:59] <daHouse> 97_chd jacron@randann.com
[14:59] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  PJC80LA08  Gparted Live CD is not needed
[14:59] <blanju> hi
[15:00] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I'm currently running Ubuntu off the boot disk (I'm in Ubuntu now).  Off the welcome screen, I chose "Try Ubuntu without any changes to your computer".  This is what Spanglish told me to do.  How do I shut down now and start over where we need to?  Or can I check the CD first right here in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <gigi> ciao atutti
[15:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 re boot the computer and do the check CD  for defects
[15:01] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  the thing on the top right for shut down, or just turn the computer off
[15:01] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, this is my advice to him ..if you would like to help him , be my guest ...I didn't say gparted was needed , but I did say gparted works safely and effectively
[15:01] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj Gparted is also  on the Ubuntu Live CD.  re sizing Windows in gparted first then finnishing off manual install is probably easier for this PJC80LA08 person though
[15:01] <iflema> CAPcap sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[15:02] <Guest68989> ntp time wrong on mythbuntu clients
[15:02] <Guest68989> help me please
[15:02] <Sumit> nick Sumit
[15:02] <Guest68989> time is out 1 hour
[15:02] <Guest68989> using diskless mythbuntu
[15:02] <WierdAAR> user_: in ubuntu there should be a search function in the filemanager
[15:02] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj or it could all be done in manual install, he is going to have a seperate /home   shame guided install doesn't have an option for one of those really
[15:02] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[15:03] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - I'm shut down now.  I'm reinserting the disc and booting back up ...  BOY - Ubuntu is KICK ASS FAST !!!
[15:03] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yes that's what i was bout to suggest , but I prefer a separate gparted livecd to the one located on the OS live cd
[15:03] <ziroday> Guest68989: #mythbuntu is the best place to ask
[15:03] <Sumit> I have just installed zsh...but when I type zsh in run window nothing happens...m i missing something after installation?
[15:04] <llutz> Sumit: its a shell, need a terminal/console
[15:04] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, PJC80LA08 one can use gparted live cd to move and resize windows partitions as well, it's a good tool .
[15:04] <llutz> Sumit: type "xterm zsh"
[15:04] <CAPcap> thanks
[15:04] <Sumit> llutz: you mean I should type in terminal?
[15:04] <iflema> WierdAAR how much RAM? how big the swap?
[15:05] <Sumit> ok
[15:05] <PJC80LA08> Ooops.  Didn't get the disc in - in enough time before it started booting into Windows.  And now it's doing a hard disk check.  DOH!  I'll just have to wait and then restart ...
[15:05] <Guest68989> 2 gig swap
[15:05] <sebsebseb> BluesBaj feel free to help him as well, but this is the set up I want PJC80LA08 to have.  right so his Windows partition of course, and I guess any recovery partition for Windows as well, since he wants to dual boot.    10 to 12GB for /   and big seperate home  and  double his RAM or whatever for SWAP space depending on how much he has
[15:05] <lucjan> hi
[15:05] <kannan> hey guys
[15:06] <marduuk> ok... how can i fix mbr from live disk.... it reports that the disk is part of raid0
[15:06] <lucjan> karmic-proposed don't works
[15:06] <iflema> WierdAAR in a terminal type free -m far left top and bottom.....
[15:06] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj above,  I am typing in names now, since my auto complete has messed up for this channel herm
[15:06] <sebsebseb> hrm
[15:06] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK, I'm checking the disc for defects ... just pushed Enter for it off the Ubuntu welcome screen ...
[15:06] <sebsebseb> ok good
[15:07] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yeah most machines with 4G Ram ratrely need a swap , but it's a good thing to have ..limited partiition space however prolly indicates less Ram too.
[15:07] <kannan> every time I try to access a USB HDD that is shared on the network I get the error "Failed to Mount Windows Share" anyone got an idea?
[15:08] <adifire> kannan: wat network is it?
[15:08] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  How much RAM do you have?
[15:08] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  yeah with 1GB +  RAM   swap isn't really needed it seems, except for hibernation
[15:08] <Sumit> how do I minimize all the window, there must be a short cut key, like Win + D?
[15:08] <CAPcap> i logged out and logged in again, i still have a xubuntu login screen. i want my ubuntu one back. when i installed xfce a while back it didnt give me and option like KDE did it just automatically used the xubuntu login. how do i get the ubuntu one back?
[15:08] <kannan> sry, it's on my home network which I set up using Samba
[15:08] <PJC80LA08> you guys ROCK !!!  This is SO cool !!!  sebsebseb:  I have 1 GB of RAM.  I will eventually be running 1.5 GB, as I am expecting another 512 stick in the mail ...
[15:08] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj however even so may as well do it
[15:09] <Tronx_> simple problem here
[15:09] <adifire> sumit: ctrl+alt+d
[15:09] <Greg__> howto connect to VNC server ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, PJC80LA08 , it depends which windows OS as well if it's vista or W7 he may need to defrag  before partitioning
[15:09] <Sumit> adfire: thanks...
[15:09] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj he is on XP
[15:09] <adifire> sumit: :)
[15:09] <WierdAAR> iflema, 1 gb ram, swap 10 gb i think
[15:09] <Tronx_> how can i echo "something with _" _in it " ?
[15:10] <kannan> adifire: it's on my home network which I set up using Samba
[15:10] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  also  only Vista itself should re size VIsta's partition, and I guess W7 is like that as well
[15:10] <VCoolio> Tronx_: backslash, like \"
[15:10] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, PJC80LA08 , good , no probs with that BCD thing then
[15:10] <PJC80LA08> BluesKaj: I have Windows XP Pro - so the defrag probably isn't needed ???
[15:10] <sirscott> Greg__: "vncviewer server:display#"
[15:10] <Tronx_> vcoolio, ty
[15:10] <adifire> sumit: u can change shortcuts in the system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[15:10] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  BCD hrm  been a while since I did something with Vista, but yeah that means something to me, but I am thinking what
[15:11] <Elite_>  Hi guys this is alittle off topic here but i am a ubuntu user just not on this machine its xp pro 64 bit anyways my friends store was held up last night and we caught the whole thing on video only thing is i can not get the video to play anyone here know about this stuff and maybe can help find the right codec or something ?
[15:11] <RB2> Hey everyone. Just had a quick question about pidgin. Someone sent an MSN request last night and every since, the alias I talk to people with is changed. Weird bug. But, I'm trying to figure out where the configuration files are.
[15:11] <adifire> kannan: there's a code for doin it in terminal i once tried long time ago but don't remember
[15:11] <Guest68989> mythbuntu diskless client clock is wrong how can i fix ntp time is used on server
[15:11] <Greg__> sirscott ty
[15:11] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, that's why I dual boot with XP :)
[15:11] <Sumit> adifire: thanks...will now check all the short cuts...
[15:11] <Guest68989> ntp is installed on clients image as well
[15:11] <adifire> kannan: search it in google..
[15:11] <RB2> Sorry, not pidgin, empathy!
[15:11] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: OK, the disc check is finished.  No errors found.  I'm pressing a key to reboot ...
[15:11] <CAPcap> Elite_ Whats the file format?
[15:11] <Guest68989> someone gotta know this stuff
[15:12] <Elite_>  .MPG
[15:12] <RB2> My ~/.gconf/empathy folders all just contain one import xml record file with one entry (from my import from pidgin)
[15:12] <Greg__> one more question, how to manually check email with evolution ?
[15:12] <kannan> adifire: thanks, I had to use that code the other day for a different folder, but I don't remember it either...and my tame guru is at work :)
[15:12] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  many people in here would just give the dual boot link and that's about it, then leave people to try and figure it out for  them selves, but I have already helped quite a lot of people partition,  so helping another isn't a big deal, however this stuff really does take time
[15:13] <CAPcap> elite_ right click the file and click properties, tell me if it has more info like mpeg4 or mpeg2
[15:13] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  That's fine.  I'm ready to just finish it up and get it done.  I'm back at the Ubuntu welcome screen now ...
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Elite_, what OS is the pc with the video?
[15:13] <PJC80LA08> Next?
[15:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 partitioning  for Ubuntu doesn't take long,  but it might do, untill  people know what to do etc.  right ok so it passed?
[15:14] <CAPcap> BluesKaj, its XP Pro 64 bit
[15:14] <Elite_>  MPG File 1-0-20100212193113.MPG
[15:14] <BluesKaj> CAPcap, ok sorry , missed the answer
[15:14] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  RIGHT.  It passed the test.  I'm back at the "home screen".  What function do we perform now?
[15:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  boot up the Live Session and check  that the web works for example in Firefox
[15:15] <sebsebseb> make sure your hardware seems all ok
[15:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 lap top or desk top?
[15:15] <Greg__> ? sr/bin/python /usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index -q
[15:15] <Elite_> we use cc tv and i think the program that records uses some kind of compressed format
[15:15] <CAPcap> Elite_, what program are you trying to open it with?
[15:16] <chiiiiiz> http://pastebin.com/f48ee74e8
[15:16] <Elite_>  I have tried eveything VLC, Media Player Clasic, PowerDVD 9 etc....
[15:16] <chiiiiiz> here is the output of a ffmpeg -i of the wmv file I want to transcode
[15:16] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - gotcha.  Laptop.  How do I boot up the Live Session.  I have the following options:  "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer", "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory", "Boot from first hard disk" - and the f-key options as well, of course ...
[15:16] <coz_> Elite_,  mplayer?  and did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:16] <CAPcap> Elite_, try opening it with your favorite web browser
[15:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Try Ubuntu without any changes to your computer
[15:17] <Elite_>  i am not on ubuntu atm
[15:17] <Elite_> moo: os: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition - Service Pack 2 (5.2.3790) up: 1hr 9mins 32secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz at 2667MHz gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1.00GB res: 1680x1050 32bit 60Hz ram: 815/4086.2MB (19.95%) [||--------] hdd: C:\ 450.62GB/465.75GB net: Intel[R] PRO_1000 GT Desktop Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport - 1000MB/s 157.36MB In 3.18MB Out
[15:17] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Gotcha.  Here goes ...
[15:17] <chiiiiiz> I tried an 'auto' operation with Avidemux to obtain DVD mpeg file... but I have finally a 3x bigger file and a lot of red and green stains on the video... so. not good
[15:18] <chiiiiiz> What would you advise in terms of quality or codec choice?
[15:18] <CAPcap> Elite_, if you have something like quicktime or real or media player plugins installed, one that can play it will automatically take over. IF you have one that can play it through your browser
[15:18] <Guest68989> how can i find a user if i dont know the channel he is on?
[15:18] <chiiiiiz> http://pastebin.com/f48ee74e8
[15:18] <Guest68989> i only know half his name 2
[15:18] <Elite_>  I have all those codecs installed
[15:18] <Guest68989> spanglish something
[15:18] <avogadro> crdlb: xrandr works thanks
[15:18] <Guest68989> did a reboot and lost what channel i was in
[15:19] <BluesKaj> chiiiiiz, you have to give the final (output file) a name
[15:19] <Guest68989> someone?
[15:19] <CAPcap> Elite_, have you tried opening it with Internet explorer?
[15:19] <chiiiiiz> is there a video/ffmpeg topics dedicated channel?
[15:19] <Elite_>  4 I be more then happy to send anyone the first part of the video if someone wants to try and get it to work ?
[15:19] <Elite_>  I be more then happy to send anyone the first part of the video if someone wants to try and get it to work ?
[15:19] <chiiiiiz> Hi BluesKaj!! i know, I only wanted to know whzt I had as input material
[15:19] <iflema> Guest68989 spanglish_7776
[15:19] <CAPcap> Elite_, whats the file size?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 oh yeah you said you can only be on one computer  at a time with Internet?
[15:20] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Sorry.  Chowin' down on a granola bar - been up all night.  Yes - I'm currently chatting with you on my old computer ...
[15:20] <chiiiiiz> I thought that maybe this info would be useful to identify the right codec, quality parameters.. choice
[15:20] <Guest68989> yes
[15:20] <Guest68989> spanglish_7776 how can i find him?
[15:20] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 well you didn't have to do this stuff tonight :D
[15:20] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 as I made clear earlier
[15:20] <CAPcap> Elite_, I can try if i you like.  See PM for email.
[15:20] <iflema> Guest68989 message = /msg spanglish_7776 [message]
[15:21] <twinforce> hey yall
[15:21] <chiiiiiz> or is there a ffmpeg command line that says 'only change the container, without touching the audio/video quality"?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  anyway whilst   we been chatting here, it's been day here
[15:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 ok skip the check Internet thing, since you would have to disconenct the computer your on now.  boot up the CD yep and start the installer
[15:22] <chiiiiiz> I've been reading a lot of ffmped/mencoder faq and docs.. but it describes the application more than explain what and how and why
[15:22] <BluesKaj> chiiiiiz, yes ffmpeg default is to retain the original quality as much as possibel , but if you follow the guide there are several options available
[15:23] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Yeah - I know.  But I have been waiting for so long to have my computer the way I want it - LIKE - two weeks since getting my laptop in the mail.  So again, thanks for your help ... OK - so we are installing Ubuntu.  Will Windows still stay in tact?
[15:23] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 this can all be done in the manual installer,  or you can re size the Windows partition in  Gparted first
[15:24] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  backup any important data just in case yep,  then  just re size the Windows partition,  and that should be fine
[15:24] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 then in the free space Ubuntu get's set up
[15:24] <neopablo> hello, im running xubuntu in ppc powerbook G4. I want to use opera instead of mozilla firefox. Do you know some way to make flash work on it?
[15:25] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 how big is the hard disk?  how much is Ubuntu taking up at the moment? also you said before that you have 28GB  unpartitioned space?
[15:25] <neopablo> in mozilla firefox i use swfdec
[15:25] <Guest68989> mythbuntu diskless client clock is wrong how can i fix ntp time is used on server
[15:25] <sebsebseb> uh I meant how much is Windows taking up at the moment
[15:25] <goldenfox> hello all, anyone here knows a good mailserver software appliance?
[15:26] <CAPcap> i logged out and logged in again, i still have a xubuntu login screen. i want my ubuntu one back. when i installed xfce a while back it didnt give me and option like KDE did it just automatically used the xubuntu login. how do i get the ubuntu one back?
[15:26] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - I would like Ubuntu running off one partition - or image - or whatever.  OK - so boot into Windows now?  I don't really have any data that needs backing up ...  The hard disk is 80 GB total - with 28 GB free space unpartitioned.  I don't know how to see how much Ubuntu is taking up ... I'm currently still in Ubuntu ...
[15:26] <migi> hello
[15:26] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no
[15:26] <migi> i have a little problem with internet connection on ubuntu 9.10.
[15:26] <migi> could anyone help me please?
[15:26] <PJC80LA08> OK ?  So what's my next step?
[15:27] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  you don't need Windows right now, you can also back up data from the Windows partitin using the Ubuntu Live CD, as long as Windows was shut down proelry enough then it should work no problem otherwise a way to force unmont of some sort
[15:27] <biggsjm> PJC8OLA08 just use your login screen and make sure its set to login using gnome
[15:27] <iflema> CAPcap sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:27] <migi> it's about connection and proxy
[15:27] <sebsebseb> biggsjm what?  messaged wrong one or?
[15:28] <Soul_Sample> is there a way to configure more than 12 keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[15:28] <Sumit> when I key in 'xterm zsh', zsh starts properly, but when i key in 'gnome-terminal zsh' it only starts terminal without zsh, why so?
[15:28] <sebsebseb> PCJ80LA08 yes I put by mistake before  Ubuntu taking up space thing,  I meant Windows,  anyway ok CD is booted up now yes?  if so   system > administration  > partition editor
[15:28] <biggsjm> sebsebseb ?? he said he logged into Xfce and couldn't get ubuntu one back
[15:28] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08
[15:28] <migi> hello:
[15:28] <migi> ?
[15:28] <sebsebseb> biggsjm no that was the other person
[15:28] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Last time I booted into Windows - it ran a check on the hard drive - then restarted.  By that time I had reinserted the Ubuntu CD - so it went back to the Ubuntu home page.  So it never fully booted into Windows last time ...
[15:28] <biggsjm> ah, whoops
[15:28] <iflema> !ask | migi
[15:29] <llutz> Sumit: "gnome-terminal -e zsh"?
[15:29] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 ok do you have the Ubuntu Live session booted up now? if so do what I just put
[15:29] <Sumit> llutz: thanks again..
[15:29] <migi> my internet connection seems to be working on firefox and chrome although it doesn't work (or it seeems so, since it doesn't do anything) when i try to update software or do anything which is not in webbrowser
[15:30] <Out_Cold> migi, open a terminal and ping www.google.com
[15:30] <CAPcap> Elite_
[15:30] <shishirdwivedi20> how to install mysql on ubuntu?
[15:30] <Out_Cold> migi, ping -c 4 www.google.com
[15:30] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 what's Windows going to be used for?
[15:30] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I am currently still in Ubuntu - after hitting "Try Ubuntu without any changes ..."
[15:31] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  So just shut down and reboot?
[15:31] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 you have Ubuntu now  from the CD you can do things such as this?  system > administration > partition editor
[15:31] <jrib> !mysql | shishirdwivedi20
[15:31] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no shutting down or re booting,  if you got the Ubuntu Live session booted up now
[15:32] <Mik777> hello folks, can anyone advise me what to do in the following situation: I can't afford myself to buy win7 and offise apps so recently I've installed ubuntu 9.10 x64 mainly to deal with my uni work and media. With open office I've found out that there are errors in formulas when coverting to pdf and finally the most annoying problem is that the system crashes when I'm watching video. Has anyone got a solution?! Cheers.
[15:32] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[15:32] <macgonagle> can anyone point me to a current howto for encryption?
[15:32] <Out_Cold> migi? how did that go?
[15:32] <migi> i did it
[15:32] <CAPcap> do i have to restart my computer for that to take effect?
[15:32] <migi> it just runs with some details
[15:32] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 you should be able to try Ubuntu from CD now as well as  do  what I want you to do first which is  to  open gparted.  system > administration > partition editor
[15:33] <migi> sorry, i cannot write them here cause it's on another computer. besides i have to switch my internet cable so it's not so convenient.
[15:33] <adudutz> I'm having an ncompability problem with grub2 and my old p3 PC. everytime I tried to boot, it always fall back to the rescue prompt with error: no such partition. It is quite wierd, since it's from a fresh Xubuntu installation (using alternate CD). My question is, how do I replace GRUB with LILO using a rescue prompt?
[15:33] <Out_Cold> migi, that's ok... did it say 100% success?
[15:33] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I just want Windows in tact still - in case something goes majorly wrong I need to revert back.  I have also already created the recovery discs - which would restore everything back to its originally manufactured state - in that case.  OK, I'm opening GParted ...
[15:33] <migi> it just ran with some codes every second...
[15:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 yes Windows will still be there, just do what I say :)
[15:34] <scunizi> Mik777: when making pdf's from OOo. instead of using the built in pdf creator try installing the cups-pdf package and then just "Print" to a pdf as if you were printing to a normal printer.. it will save the files in ~/PDF
[15:34] <Guest68989> mik http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[15:34] <Out_Cold> migi, did you use the -c 4 option? at the end it should say either 100% success or 100% failure or something in between
[15:34] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - I'm in GParted.  What now?
[15:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  What are  you going to use Windows on there for?
[15:34] <migi> i will do that now. will  be right back.
[15:35] <Mik777> scunizi, Guest68989 Thank you
[15:36] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I'll I'm really using this home system for is basic functions (e-mail, doing the budget, etc.).  I like to have all my bases covered, regardless.  Once in a while, I have other unexpected uses for it beyond the basic stuff ...
[15:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Ubuntu is not Windows  it does not  need that much space,  but even so your 28GB unpartitioend space seems a bit little for Ubuntu.   I mean you will probably end up using it a lot more and wanting to store data in the home partition and that.
[15:36] <migi> ok, it says "0% packet loss". there is no other line wiht % sign
[15:36] <penthief> Anyone know a good tool for grabbing the text from an image?
[15:36] <penthief> As in handwriting.
[15:36] <Odin> Gimp?
[15:36] <Out_Cold> migi, ok good... now do sudo apt-get update and look for error signs
[15:37] <migi> ok, brb
[15:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 do you have an external hard disk or something like that to back stuff up to?
[15:37] <aryr100> hello all
[15:37] <penthief> Really? Gimp can convert an image with handwriting into text?
[15:38] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - so can we still work with the 28 GB and create the /home - like we've been discussing?  I do have a Western Digital 250 GB external hard drive - but I believe it's currently formatted for Mac ...
[15:38] <aryr100> there is a claim that running ubuntu on a new macbook ect will kill the cpu ?
[15:38] <llutz> penthief: no, search for OCR-apps like gocr, vuescan
[15:38] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  you don't really need a seperate /home one can be created though.   you could back stuff up to a external hard disk, burn a few CD's,  put stuff on the Windows partition from Ubuntu
[15:38] <jrib> aryr100: claim by?  It's not try afaik, I've run ubuntu on my macbook for over a year now
[15:38] <migi> it just doesn't start connecting...
[15:38] <jrib> aryr100: s/try/true
[15:39] <zilkomaa> How to remove unused icons from applications->wine?
[15:39] <penthief> llutz: Thanks.
[15:39] <Out_Cold> sebsebsebing, saying you don't need a separate /home is like saying you don't need a door to the bathroom :p
[15:39] <beatpete> hay there
[15:40] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  That sounds fine.  So Ubuntu will create a Windows partition for itself that I can store stuff on too?  I'm in GParted right now - what do I do?
[15:40] <migi> any suggestions?
[15:40] <aryr100> a smc problem with linux ? they claim
[15:40] <phemmy> hello
[15:40] <Mrcactux> How can I replace the taskbar ubuntu icon?
[15:40] <phemmy> pls am trying to get ma compiz to the max
[15:40] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold they are a new user they haven't used Ubuntu before,  they have 28GB unpartitioned space.  They want to use Windows still of course.  I have guided them through the CD stuff so far.
[15:40] <jrib> aryr100: why is "they"?
[15:41] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold   burning ISO, and checking it
[15:41] <Out_Cold> migi, perhaps your server is down.. in the GUI you can find software resources or something like that from the system menu.. change your server location
[15:41] <Out_Cold> sebsebseb, i know what it's like... not everyone needs a bathroom door ;)
[15:41] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold  I have a feeling it could be another hour trying to explain to PJC80LA8 how to make a seperate /home
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Out_Cold, depends on your needs ..a regular home setup doesn't really need a separate /home partition... if some thing goes wrong with OS one can still reinstall the os to / , without formatting and the config files will be retained
[15:42] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold if you want to help doing that, feel free
[15:42] <migi> no, the server is not down. it works fine on my other laptop.
[15:42] <Out_Cold> i gotta go eat breakie :p
[15:42] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  GParted is currently showing two items.  "IBM_Preload", an NTFS file system - 48.79 GB in size + "IBM_Service", a FAT32 file system - 7.10 GB in size.  What do i do next?
[15:42] <Out_Cold> migi, if you can ping something but not apt-get then there is an issue with apt-get
[15:42] <migi> it just strange that firefox works though none of software updates does
[15:43] <phemmy> hey anyone with any idea how to make compiz really nice and fun
[15:43] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  15GB is more than enough for Ubuntu, with hardly any data in it,  so your 28GB same thing there.  That is with an Ubuntu that has /home as part of it
[15:43] <migi> could it be something with proxy maybe?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, I get a charge out of these ppl who make blanket absolutes about what a setup should be :)
[15:43] <iflema> migi is you internet through proxy or direct?
[15:44] <migi> it is direct, though it was used through proxy some time ago. i wonder if there might be some proxy left somewhere which blocks it.
[15:44] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj heh I know seperate /home can be useful in the long run,  but  realisticlly for this user it probably doesn't really matter,  might as well let him do the guided install
[15:44] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  GParted states that the NTFS volume has 28.32 GB is unused, while the FAT32 volume has 2.83 GB unused.  OK - I was thinking 15 GB would be enough too.  So how do I create this now in GParted?
[15:44] <guntbert> !who | migi
[15:44] <iflema> migi System / Preferences / Network Proxy
[15:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 you will use all your unpartitined space for Ubuntu
[15:44] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yes ..and it's good practice
[15:45] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj what is to use guided?  or  to make seperate /home ?
[15:45] <gazraeli> You can judge the level of party in a person by the length of their mullet!
[15:45] <migi> it's marked "direct internet connection"
[15:45] <adudutz> anyone?
[15:45] <iflema> migi and you can ping and firefox works but nothing else?
[15:45] <migi> yes
[15:46] <migi> iflema
[15:46] <alienkid10> any of you use persistence?
[15:46] <zilkomaa> How to remove unused icons from applications->wine?
[15:46] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  well I told you how I thought his set up should be before, but  feel free to help him out :)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, I wouldn'r bother with a separate /home , that's mainly for backing up ctritical data in case the OS craps out
[15:46] <hayer> is it possible to get some help with MySQL data rescue here?
[15:46] <migi> i really have no idea what could be wrong...
[15:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 right going to make this easier for you
[15:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 much easier
[15:47] <alienkid10> I followed the tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence  on LiveCD persistence using a casper-rw file at the root of a flash  drive with a size of 512MB(tried 1GB samething). I booted into the CD  and hit F6 added "persistent" and everything booted fine I install  things etc. then reboot F6 "persistent" NOTHING! I loop mount the  casper-rw file and find an empty folder called "lost+found" and nothing
[15:47] <BluesKaj> the guided install is a good , sebsebseb
[15:47] <jrib> hayer: I imagine the mysql channel is a better place for that
[15:47] <BluesKaj> err =is good
[15:47] <iflema> migi what happens when you sudo apt-get update in a terminal?
[15:47] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - so we are not creating any partitions.  K- I'm waiting for your instructions ...
[15:47] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj indeed it is unless seperate /home is wanted,
[15:47] <migi> it just doesn't start connecting. writes somethine like [0% and then my dns number]
[15:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 well it is automatically going  to make   partitions for you,  ok you don't get seperate /home  ,but if you want one in the future you can make one yourself anyway
[15:48] <sebsebseb> !home | PJC80LA08
[15:48] <BluesKaj> separate home isn't necessary , sebsebseb .. I hope you guys didn't misundetstand me :)
[15:48] <cousin_mario> hello, does the standard ubuntu installer have what's needed to resize ntfs partitions?
[15:48] <iflema> migi System / Administration / Software Sources select another location from drop box...
[15:48] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj that's basically what I was saying as well,  it can be a rather useful thing to have, but for a lot of users it's not really needed
[15:48] <alienkid10> no one can help? IS there a guide for 9.10 on persistence?
[15:48] <migi> ok
[15:49] <mikeconcepts> In crontab -e I have  59 * * * * cvlc Desktop/Train.wav and I would like to know how to not leave a terminal window open after it plays
[15:49] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 ok right so 28GB unpartitioend space? and  you got uhmm a Windows partition and a recovery partition?
[15:49] <scunizi> alienkid10: there is a usb creating tool built into 9.10 that also gives it persistance.. I've used that with great success..
[15:49] <iflema> migi then close the window it should attemt to reload sources
[15:50] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  someone gave a video earlier,  how to install Ubuntu and they used manual install to make an Ubuntu partition and didn't do SWAP, silly video that one
[15:50] <alienkid10> scunizi: I need to boot from CD
[15:50] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj oh yeah and Ubuntu was in  a vm with Windows as host in that video
[15:50] <migi> i cannot do that because then it doesn't download anything in the window of "downloading package information"... says "download rate: unknown" and "Downloading file 1 of 17" keeps on forever. it just doesn't moove.
[15:50] <alienkid10> most comps I use don't boot USB without BIOS messing
[15:50] <alienkid10> scunizi: I followed the tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence  on LiveCD persistence using a casper-rw file at the root of a flash  drive with a size of 512MB(tried 1GB samething). I booted into the CD  and hit F6 added "persistent" and everything booted fine I install  things etc. then reboot F6 "persistent" NOTHING! I loop mount the  casper-rw file and find an empty folder called "lost+found" an
[15:50] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yeah was that the one with the cute girl doing the instruction ?
[15:50] <iflema> migi does it say that after you change?
[15:51] <llutz> sebsebseb: having swap when running linux inside a vm would be stupid
[15:51] <sebsebseb> llutz  oh?   well only scanned  through that video a bit, maybe it explained that
[15:51] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah, I guess.  Again - GParted is showing an "IBM_Preload" NTFS volume (the original hard drive) - and now also a "IBM_Service" FAT32 volume (showed up since starting this Ubuntu process).
[15:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 close gparted
[15:51] <migi> when i try to change the server, that window comes up automatically
[15:52] <scunizi> alienkid10: so the machine won't boot directly from usb?  you have to have CD boot but usb storage?
[15:52] <migi> and then it says "an error occurred", "failed to fetch http://www......"
  having swap when running linux inside a vm would be stupid   -- why?
[15:52] <alienkid10> scunizi: it could be what ever for casper-rw but Flashdrive was the simplest soluation
[15:52] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  open the Ubuntu installer follow that through, tell me when you get to partitioning.   When you do user account put letters and numbers at least in your password, but to make it more secure you need stuff such as $ and !
[15:52] <alienkid10> scunizi: so yes
[15:53] <llutz> guntbert: just give more ram to the vm if needed.
[15:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you do the wrong guided install option your Windows will go
[15:53] <migi> i have two laptops and both of them are configures with the same details and i use the same wire, although on one of them, everything works fine, while on the other, internet works JUST on firefox, but not when one needs to download something: software, hardware drivers, etc.
[15:54] <iflema> migi have you manually entered sources to the sources list?
[15:54] <migi> no
[15:54] <scunizi> alienkid10: I'm not the best to ask casper questions.. I played with it a couple years ago but got frustrated and let it be.. sorry I can't be of more help.
[15:54] <iflema> migi well that sux
[15:54] <Mrcactux> Thanks for sharing
[15:54] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I have the link from ubottu written down for creating the /home possibly later.  OK - so I do prevent from doing the WRONG guided install option - right now?
[15:54] <alienkid10> scunizi: where can I get help then?
[15:55] <guntbert> llutz: I'm not convinced - still HD space is more plentyful on any system than RAM
[15:55] <migi> any idea what could be wrong?
[15:55] <llutz> guntbert: if you need to run systems with heavy mem-usage, don't run it inside vms
[15:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  just  do the Ubuntu installer on the CD, and tell me when you get partitioning options
[15:55] <llutz> guntbert: swapping is slow, nobody wants to work with a continous sswapping system
[15:55] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  It's now starting up the partitioner ...
[15:55] <iflema> migi have you searched/posted on the forums?
[15:55] <scunizi> alienkid10: #linux google .. other times of the day here since this is a 7/24 channel you'll get people from all over the world at different times.
[15:55] <eshannon> how can I optimize my desktop(910) for the INTERNET. Mostly web browsing and some bit torrents
[15:56] <alienkid10> scunizi: tried google
[15:56] <alienkid10> will try #linux
[15:56] <llutz> guntbert: so why should one waste RAM for the vm-host instead of running native linux?
[15:56] <migi> i have, but i couldn't find anything ...
[15:56] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  What are the options for partitioning?
[15:56] <guntbert> llutz:   (heavy mem usage - no VM) *thats* a good point - ack - thx for your time
[15:57] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 also there's a picture showing you the partitions,  if I remember correctly it will show you what it would do
[15:57] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 after selecting an option
[15:57] <iflema> migi ?????
[15:57] <migi> iflema, yes i have posted/searched, but couldn't find anything
[15:58] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  It's now at the "Prepare disk space" screen.  The options are "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup", "Erase and use the entire disk", or lastly "Specify partitions manually" (and then use a little sliding scale indicator thing to set the break).
[15:58] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Install them side by side should do it
[15:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 the scroller thing?
[15:59] <iflema> migi yeah i got that...
[15:59] <Lusule> is there a way in ubuntu to set things up so you get the application menu on right clicking the desktop?
[16:00] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - I haven't hit anything yet.  What about the scroller thing?  On that third option (with the scroller thing), it's showing Ubuntu 9.10 right at 15.4 GB.  That's about what you had stated (15 GB).  Still choose the first option of "Install them side by side" ???
[16:00] <guntbert> eshannon: what do you expect? please explain "optimize"
[16:00] <xangua> Lusule: like in xfce¿¿
[16:00] <Lusule> xangua: yeah, I tried xubuntu but there was too much stuff that didn't work, I don't have time to try and figure how to fix things
[16:01] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you select the install them side by side option,  I think it will show you what it will do
[16:01] <iflema> migi keep posting ya question here...... im thinking
[16:02] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no optoins such as?  install Ubuntu into the largest continous free space?
[16:02] <alver_> Does anyone of you know of a Linux equivalent of Aida32 or Belarc?
[16:02] <eshannon> My xp laptop is faster if I do a speed test. Trying to open a web page it can be hit or miss on how long it takes. Bit torrents go from .01 kbs to 1.5mb back and forth. Most of the time on the lower end
[16:03] <bluef00t> how can i install the latest packages available for lucid in an old release like jaunty
[16:03] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK.  And you had stated anyway - that Ubuntu will need more than 15 GB (to account for storage space as well, right?).  I thought Ubuntu only needs 5 GB to run, right?  There is no such option as "Install Ubuntu into the largest continuous free space".
[16:03] <llutz> bluef00t: backport them
[16:03] <guntbert> alver_: tell us what kind of apps you are looking for (not just the windows names)
[16:03] <erUSUL> alver_: sysinfo ? lshw-gtk
[16:03] <iflema> migi are you sure both the systems have the same sources...... they are both ubuntu?
[16:03] <erUSUL> !info lshw-gtk
[16:03] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no 15GB is fine for Ubuntu without seperate /home as long as you don't start putting quite a lot of big data into the home for example
[16:03] <guntbert> !equivalent | alver_
[16:03] <xangua> bluef00t: updating to karmic and after to lucid¿
[16:04] <fenix_> hey can anyone help me? I got rid of my title bar in terminal and can't get it back
[16:04] <sebsebseb> !lucid |  xangua bluef00t
[16:04] <MisterWiki> Ubuntu has Python pre-installed?
[16:04] <fenix_> yes MisterWiki
[16:04] <MisterWiki> Yes. O_0
[16:04] <MisterWiki> Thanks!
[16:04] <sebsebseb> bluef00t you can get  ppa's for later stuff
[16:04] <fenix_> haha yeah :P half the system is built of python
[16:05] <syn-ack> I still contend that python is evil
[16:05] <fenix_> more or less :P I like java myself
[16:05] <alver_> Hi, ubottu thx for your information.
[16:05] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: OK - so then that means choose the third option "Specify partitions manually" - and don't move the scroll bar, as it is currently set right at 15.4 GB for Ubuntu?  Or are we aiming to allow Ubuntu the most disk space possible - which would then mean we would choose "Install them side by side"?
[16:06] <kostkon> syn-ack, python is a fine language. anyway this discussion belongs tou #ubuntu-ot
[16:06] <fenix_> true that
[16:06] <fenix_> laters all
[16:06] <bluef00t> actually i want the latest version of qemu for jaunty currently only in lucid repos. i just wanted to know how can i install it in jaunty. Its not in jaunty-backports and i dont want to comile it manually. any other way??
[16:06] <guntbert> alver_: ubottu is a bot :)
[16:06] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  manaul install would be for setting up seperate /home ,but not doing that anymore.   going with the install them side by side option should be fine
[16:06] <Lusule> xangua: do I take it then there isn't a way to do the same thing in Ubuntu?
[16:06] <xangua> bluef00t: using a more recent distro
[16:07] <xangua> Lusule: maybe with an nautilus extension/script
[16:07] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Just out of curiousity - what would happen if too much data got put on that separate home directory?  Would Ubuntu not have enough disk space to run, then
[16:07] <bluef00t> the latest version is not in karmic. its only in lucid
[16:07] <firc> hi guys. I am on 9.04. How do i properly configure apache2+php. Presently php flies are being downloaded. I've install libapache2-mod-php5, php5-cli , php5. a2enmod shows php5 is activated. Please help
[16:07] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 you mean the /home that isn't seperate   it will come up  on like 95%  full saying that your running out of space
[16:08] <firc> I dont want the files to be downloaded. I want them to be executed
[16:08] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Ubuntu itself a clean install takes up about 2GB
[16:08] <bluef00t> can i install the latest qemu from debian sid??
[16:08] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - "Install them side by side" - here goes ...
[16:09] <sebsebseb> !debian | bluef00t
[16:09] <bullgard> Evolution  2.28.1 > Edit > Plugins > PluginManager > Spam Assassin Junk Filter is enabled.  --  Preferences > Evolution Preferences > (SpamAssassinOptions) > Include remote tests is enabled. But if I leave this dialog and open it later, it is no longer enabled. How can I enable it permanently?
[16:10] <guntbert> bluef00t: you *can* do pretty much as you like - BUT its likely to break your system and is therefor not recommended and not supported
[16:10] <CAPcap> I have a xubuntu login screen. I want my ubuntu one back, i dont even have xfce anymore.
[16:10] <sebsebseb> CAPcap find it in repo and remove it I guess
[16:10] <sebsebseb> CAPcap repo I mean synaptic
[16:10] <CAPcap> i knew what u meant
[16:11] <sebsebseb> CAPcap  search for xubuntu  or  maybe xsplash and I guess something will come up
[16:11] <CAPcap> the problem is when i go to remove it, it says it has to remove ubuntu-desktop as well
[16:11] <pH_> hey guys
[16:11] <pH_> guys, how do i run an application in fullscreen in wine?
[16:11] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - it's giving me the message "Before you can select a new partition size, any previous changes have to be written to disk.  You cannot undo this operation.  Please note that the resize operation may take a long time."  What does the first sentence mean?  Hitting continue ...
[16:11] <pH_> i run the app using "wine mainexec.exe"
[16:11] <scunizi> CAPcap: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package.. removing it won't hurt
[16:11] <pH_> it runs ok, but i'd like to fullscreen :D
[16:12] <CAPcap> scunizi thanks i was worried. i thought it was going to remove gnome or something
[16:12] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 it means it will do it for real to your hard disk, if you put that it's ok
[16:12] <trism> CAPcap: usually you just need to reinstall ubuntu-xsplash-artwork, it will handle the rest
[16:12] <Bennage> has anyone got any experience of using an old apple isight camera (firewire) in ubuntu?
[16:12] <CAPcap> trism thanks
[16:13] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I don't think if ever prompted me asking if it was OK or not.  It's just doing what it's going to do ...
[16:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  ok it should be fine
[16:14] <CAPcap> Trism that 1 piece of info you just gave me, ive been trying to get out of this chat for over an hour and a half. ur a life saver
[16:15] <kindik> hola
[16:15] <trism> CAPcap: well, check to see if it worked first, that is how it used to work before karmic, I haven't tried it yet on karmic
[16:15] <sebsebseb> !es | kindik
[16:15] <joab> I can't get grub to autoboot the default kernel. Can someone have a look? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3e0dd31c
[16:15] <kindik> gracias
[16:16] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - It's in progress.  Now it's asking me for a bunch of information (name, log in name, password, computer name).  Dip-dee-dee ...
[16:16] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: [Infer typing]
[16:16] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 letters and numbers at least in the password and stuff like $ and ! to make even more secure
[16:17] <CAPcap> trism it uninstalled xubuntu-gdm-theme in the process so i assume it worked. i cant check right now as im downloading something that i cant interrupt
[16:17] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[16:17] <trism> CAPcap: yep, probably good then
[16:18] <ubuntu> ciao  sto provando ubuntu nella modalità per-installazione ma nella gestione partizioni c'è un triangolo d allerta accanto al nome dell hd se clicco su info mi dice che c'è un bad settor sull hard disk... potreste aiutarmi?
[16:18] <kaddi_> !it
[16:19] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - give me a sec.  Creating my password [infer typing].  What is "decrypt my home folder" all about?
[16:19] <EspumaDelMar> M.
[16:19] <Serraphyn> Is samba the best way to mount a linux dir from one computer to another?
[16:19] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 I was going to put something about that.   Encryoption for the home folder,  don't do that.  People have actsaully had problems with Ubuntu encryption  after re  installing and such before.
[16:20] <jrib> Serraphyn: it's one way, nothing wrong with it
[16:20] <thechef> Serraphyn, depends - if you wish to map permissions NFS is the choice. Samba is simpler to setup with authorization.
[16:21] <rachael_> i have a sony handycam and im trying to pull video from it to my laptop
[16:21] <rachael_> the laptop wont recognize the disc and when i plug the handycam into the laptop nothign pops up
[16:21] <rachael_> how do i pull the video off of my handycam
[16:21] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  well there was someone not that long ago.  Anyway not much good if encrypted data, and then can't access it again in the future when wanting to.
[16:22] <Serraphyn> Just trying to mount a directory from one machine and use it on another as workspace for eclipse but I keep getting an error that its in use or not available.  But I can edit/create/delete on the folder fine from command line
[16:22] <erUSUL> !info kino
[16:22] <Serraphyn> I have it mounted with samba/cifs
[16:23] <bullgard> Evolution  2.28.1 > Edit > Plugins > PluginManager > Spam Assassin Junk Filter is enabled.  --  Preferences > Evolution Preferences > (SpamAssassinOptions) > Include remote tests is enabled. But if I leave this dialog and open it later, it is no longer enabled. How can I enable it permanently?
[16:24] <phillip> hello
[16:25] <og01> hey people, for somereason my windows key is backgrounding my apps (as if i hit ctrl-z)
[16:25] <og01> how do i make it stop!!
[16:25] <dwessell> Anyone in here know how to setup apache so that users can ftp into directories, and make changes without screwing up apaches default user?
[16:26] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - now I'm on the "Migrate documents and settings" screen.  What the hell is this all about?  Aren't these settings specific to Windows?
[16:26] <Guest22359> hey i know this is not vb support but when i let ubuntu auto update virtualbox stops working
[16:26] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  yes it can import some things from Windows, so they can be used in Ubuntu just like that as well
[16:26] <rachael_> erUSUL, i downloaded kino
[16:26] <Lusule> okay when i first booted up on a new install, i got the startup sound, but now i've updated and its had time to think about things, sound seems to have died.  On a toshiba laptop, how do I fix it?
[16:26] <Guest22359> kernel driver not installed it says
[16:26] <rachael_> but i dont see how to get the video off the handy cam with it
[16:27] <rachael_> im using usb
[16:27] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  K - is it pretty cool?  Would you recommend it?
[16:27] <prasobh> hi
[16:27] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 it will import my documents and stuff like that, so got enough space in Ubuntu to do that?
[16:27] <ahmed> hello everyone
[16:28] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 I think it does my documents
[16:28] <qdb> hi
[16:29] <prasobh> any ubuntu expert is here or what ???
[16:29] <sebsebseb> prasobh  no such thing as an Ubuntu expert really,  people are good at what  they are good at
[16:29] <Guest49295> i have a big problem with ubuntu
[16:29] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Sure - what the hell - I chose the administrator one.  Why not.  Again, I just got the computer - so there isn't going to be that much data imported anyway ...
[16:30] <sebsebseb> Guest49295  Ok which is? Also you can just ask a question here
[16:30] <Jocaru> hola
[16:30] <Jocaru> spanish?
[16:30] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 This is something else don't run Windows as admin all the time, only when you need to,  that will stop quite a bit of malware getting on there if using a limited account
[16:30] <sebsebseb> !es |  Jocaru
[16:31] <Jocaru> thanks =)
[16:31] <sebsebseb> Jocaru no problem
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !ask | prasobh
[16:32] <Guest49295> i installed all i386 version 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04 also installed amd version 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04 but my laptop still feeze still i reboot it. what can i do? please help
[16:32] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  K - good tip.  Never knew that about Windows before.  But you hit the nail right on the head as to the main reason I'm switching to Linux anyway - because WINDOWS IS A VIRUS CESSPOOL !!!  K - hitting the Install button on the "Ready to install" screen.  Here goes !!!
[16:32] <Lusule> hi there, I'd appreciate some help with sound, as it doesn't seem to be working for my new ubuntu install on my laptop.
[16:32] <Guest22359> when i try to run virtualbox after i let ubuntu autoupdate and it says kernel driver not installed
[16:33] <masai> If I install programs to a persistant bootable USB install, and I then use that USB drive to install Ubuntu on a machine, will those non standard programs be installed as well?
[16:33] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  and don't use Internet Explorer another tip, using something more secure such as Mozilla Firefox
[16:33] <xguru> Lusule,  type alsamixer in a command line....at the top does it show your card?  and are the volumes turned up and unmuted?  the should read 00 instead of mm
[16:33] <MuffinPimp> Or chrome
[16:34] <Lusule> xguru: it shows HDA Intel, Master and PCM are unmuted
[16:34] <sebsebseb> MuffinPimp Chrome blah de blah.  yes it's standards complaint, but still Chrome blah de blah
[16:34] <sebsebseb> MuffinPimp Chromium is the open source version :)
[16:34] <Lusule> xguru: how do i mute and unmute?
[16:34] <MuffinPimp> sebsebseb: Yeah that's what I ment :P
[16:34] <xguru> Lusule, hit M
[16:34] <xguru> Lusule, hit M key
[16:35] <xguru> Lusule, up and down changes volume level
[16:35] <sebsebseb> MuffinPimp well no browser is fully standards complaint,  except for Amaya I guess if anything,  but  Firefox, Chrome, and Chromeium all do a good job at following web standards, anyway off topic
[16:35] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - IE sucks.  I prefer Opera, actually.  But Firefox is cool too.  HEY - so do all the drivers for Ubuntu get naturally installed with this process?  I especially need to make sure that the wireless is working ...  Perhaps we can do the Internet/hardware check anyway after its done installing ...
[16:35] <MuffinPimp> yeah
[16:35] <duffydack> !swap
[16:35] <xguru> Lusule, if that doesn't work to go  System>Pref>Sound and look under the hardware and output tabs....just to make sure everything is ago
[16:35] <Lusule> xguru: no, there was something called <Front Mi> which was muted but unmuting that doesn't seem to have helped.  Master is unmuted
[16:36] <og01> how can i restore all X keyboard settings? something dodgy has happend after using keytouch
[16:36] <Guest49295> is ubuntu compatible with core i3, i5 and i7????????????
[16:36] <og01> my windows key  causes apps to background
[16:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08   hopefuly your wireless will just work, and if not, well I am not really the person to help with that.   Most hardware support it just works since built in support into the Linux kernel,  but graphics card usauly need to get a driver for full support.
[16:36] <rohit01> I am Rohit from India. I want to do some development work in ubuntu with python as a programming language. I need a mentor to guide me.
[16:36] <Guest72423> how do i write a basic script that will run one bash command then wait until it is done then run another bash command?  where do i start to learn this?
[16:36] <blakkheim> rohit01: /j #python
[16:36] <funqshun> hello, does anyone know of software that is like a slippy map, but for images?
[16:37] <blakkheim> Guest72423: just put the 2nd command on the next line
[16:37] <xguru> Lusule, did you check the sound prefs?
[16:37] <funqshun> e.g the interface for gigapan.org
[16:37] <Lusule> xguru: sound preferences hardware tab is blank, is it supposed to be?
[16:37] <duffydack> whats more recommended, swappiness 0 or 10?  ( I want a low setting, I dont know if there are any ill effects of having it at 0 )
[16:37] <sebsebseb> !dev | rohit01
[16:37] <xguru> Lusule, no it should show your sound card
[16:37] <Guest72423> blakkheim so by default it will wait until one command is done before running the next?
[16:37] <blakkheim> Guest72423: yes
[16:37] <Lusule> xguru: i think we've managed to move towards finding the problem there then...
[16:37] <funqshun> where do i ask questions about googlemaps
[16:38] <nimrod10> duffydack, if by any chance the system will have to swap at some point it will kill the cpu as it will continuously try to free swap
[16:38] <rohit01> ubottu: yes.
[16:38] <nimrod10> duffydack, 10 should work fine but not 0
[16:38] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Got a firewall  in say a router?   Ubuntu has loads of ports closed or whatever by default, and there are graphical ones that can be installed.  that are really just GUI's for commands
[16:38] <duffydack> k
[16:38] <Guest72423> blakkheim cool let me wipe out my googlefu and see what i can cook up... will be back if it doesn't work
[16:39] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  K - drivers for wireless and graphics card - will be something to hone in on, then.  Ultimately, at this point - I am just happy to finally be running an OS that is more resistant to virus and spyware/adware/malware - then even Mac is.  I can handle the other glitches in light of this ...
[16:39] <Guest49295> when i install Linux Mint, it works fine but with Ubuntu i am having a lot of trouble.wjy? please help
[16:39] <mac9416> funqshun, that might be something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:39] <blakkheim> !details | Guest49295
[16:39] <bobbytek3> is there a apt-describe like utility for describing remote packages?
[16:39] <sebsebseb> PJC80LAD8  also only download software from the  Ubuntu repo's for Ubuntu, or from trusted websites such as offical websites for projects, or you might actsaully get a malicious package (program/software  Linux people call them packages )
[16:39] <sisyphuss> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. I want to use a download accelator (axel) instead of naive update manager. I want to know how I can find the location (URL) of packages which must be downloaded.
[16:39] <blakkheim> bobbytek3: aptitude show pkgnamehere
[16:40] <mac9416> bobbytek3, 'apt-cache search <package>' will show package names and descriptions.
[16:40] <bobbytek3> blakkheim: thanks!
[16:40] <xguru> Lusule, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[16:40] <bobbytek3> oh nice
[16:40] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I will be running a Linksys wireless router with WPA Personal security mode/encryption.  So it sounds like Ubuntu naturally already has a built-in firewall?
[16:40] <bobbytek3> thanks my friend
[16:40] <sebsebseb> I just typed your name wrong PJC80LA08  not been fun to type in :D  ,but  haven't been bothered enough to close my IRC client and re open, so my auto complete will work for this channel
[16:40] <mac9416> bobbytek3, np
[16:40] <Lusule> xguru: thanks i'll have a look
[16:40] <bharat_> Srini
[16:40] <Guest41409> aki abla alguien español?
[16:40] <bharat_> you there
[16:40] <xguru> Lusule, scroll down to the part that says "is the system recognizing your sound card"
[16:40] <sisyphuss> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. I want to use a download accelator (axel) instead of naive update manager. I want to know how I can find the location (URL) of packages which must be downloaded.
[16:40] <blakkheim> !es | Guest41409
[16:41] <Guest41409> hello
[16:41] <blakkheim> !repeat | sisyphuss
[16:41] <sebsebseb> oh and again it's wrong.  I could of just done copy and paste  well ctrl v once copied hrm .    PJC80LA08
[16:41] <alfplayer> Bobbytek3: you mean not installed packages? I dont think those will work
[16:41] <Guest41409> hello
[16:41] <bobbytek3> ah
[16:41] <bharat_> Sri
[16:41] <bobbytek3> I'm trying to figure out what "git" is about
[16:41] <Guest41409> hii
[16:41] <bobbytek3> as opposed to "git-core"
[16:41] <Guest41409> hello
[16:41] <sortanoob> Hi I have a wireless internet connection on this intrepid box (working) and I wish to share it to the rest of the lan over ethernet. I followed these http://blog.chewearn.com/2009/01/28/internet-connection-sharing-in-ubuntu-intrepid/ but without success. The local machines are static ip ATM and ping this box fine. This box pings them. I could do the command line iptables method, but if it can be done in GUI I'd like to know how.
[16:41] <blakkheim> bobbytek3: git-core is just the package name to install git
[16:41] <bobbytek3> Any idea how I might get a description?
[16:41] <mac9416> !hi | Guest41409
[16:42] <bobbytek3> blakkheim: right, but git is something else
[16:42] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  see above you might have missed some stuff I put, and now I can ctrl v your name :)
[16:42] <Guest41409> what?
[16:42] <Guest49295> any update for Ubuntu lucid lynx yet?
[16:42] <Lusule> xguru: sudo aplay -l shows my card correctly
[16:42] <MenZa> !lucid | Guest49295
[16:42] <Guest41409> im sp
[16:42] <bluebaron> Anyone know about kernels with UBoot and SheevaPlug?  How do I get the build directories to compile drivers against?
[16:42] <xguru> Lusule, keep reading down....some of the info there doesn't apply to you
[16:42] <sebsebseb> MenZa beat me to it, oh well,  :)
[16:42] <Lusule> xguru: okay
[16:42] <Guest41409> im speaking in spain
[16:42] <TheSHAD0W> Question...  Will Lubuntu and its progs work on a pre-x686 CPU machine?  (Asked in #lubuntu, no one is answering...)
[16:43] <mac9416> !es | Guest41409
[16:43] <Guest49295> so where can i find help for Ubuntu karmic
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Guest49295 here
[16:43] <HammerHead66> can someone tell me the file name for installing adobe in terminal I forgot it
[16:43] <Guest41409> olaaa
[16:43] <sebsebseb> !es | Guestr41409
[16:43] <blakkheim> HammerHead66: flashplugin-nonfree
[16:43] <sri_> ...
[16:43] <sebsebseb> !es |  Guest41409
[16:43] <HammerHead66> ﻿ blakkheim:thank you
[16:43] <blakkheim> sebsebseb: chill bro
[16:44] <mac9416> blakkheim, he misspelled the nick the first time. :-)
[16:44] <sebsebseb> blakkheim what?
[16:44] <blakkheim> i've sent the !es thing to him once or twice already, if he doesn't understand then i don't think he's going to
[16:44] <sebsebseb> mac9416 yep typeo
[16:44] <ng0n> need recommendation:  best scanner program for an OLD scanner.
[16:45] <sisyphuss> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. I want to use a download accelator (axel) instead of naive update manager. I want to know how I can find the location (URL) of packages which must be downloaded.
[16:45] <almark> hello I'm attempting to format one partition of my harddrive but I'm using a Ubuntu Live disk and when I go to do this the disk is mounted on the exact same partion as the hd name
[16:45] <researcher1> I visited the PPA for chromium but cant install through GDebi package installer. Some errors are seen. Any HELP?
[16:45] <blakkheim> researcher1: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[16:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 When you have booted up the install,  and your  Internet works, get any security updates that are available,  and any drivers system > administration > hardware drivers
[16:46] <blakkheim> researcher1: and post the errors here (or pastebin)
[16:46] <logioniz> hi, please help me to install driver on ati mobility radeon hd 3650, what i must to do?
[16:46] <blakkheim> !ati > logioniz
[16:46] <og01> i think i've managed to mangle some of my keys using setkeycodes, about know how to revert everything back to normal?
[16:46] <researcher1> how to pastebin?
[16:46] <mac9416> sisyphuss, I believe there is an APT option that will make it only list download URLs. Google around for it. :-)
[16:46] <blakkheim> !paste > researcher1
[16:46] <almark> the live disk is mounted on /dev/sda3 and the harddrive is on that exact same /dev/sda3 how can I get the partition erased and use a different named /dev/sdc
[16:46] <iflema> researcher1 9.10?
[16:46] <masai> If I install programs to a persistant bootable USB install, and I then use that USB drive to install Ubuntu on a machine, will those non standard programs be installed as well?
[16:47] <mac9416> sisyphuss, once you have downloaded the packages, you'll need to copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives so APT will see them.
[16:47] <blakkheim> masai: not unless you remastered the iso
[16:47] <mac9416> masai, I don't believe so.
[16:47] <researcher1> yes its 9.10
[16:47] <sisyphuss> mac9416: yeah, I know. but it's only possible to upgrade a release with do-release-upgrade AFAIK
[16:47] <sisyphuss> *with a ... .
[16:47] <mac9416> sisyphuss, 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[16:48] <plitter> how do i get a background pic in the Ctrl + Alt +F1?
[16:48] <iflema> researcher1  in a terminal     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily, then sudo apt-get update, then  sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:48] <sisyphuss> mac9416: It says there is nothing to upgrade (I use dist-upgrade to check kernel and critical stuff upgrades)
[16:49] <researcher1> first I tried chromium-browser-dbg_5.0.328.0~svn20100213r39002-0ubuntu2~ucd1_i386.deb it gave the error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: chromium-browser (= 5.0.328.0~svn20100213r39002-0ubuntu2~ucd1)"
[16:49] <masai> Blakkheim: Whats your advice if I need to install ubuntu to a large number of computers, and what some additional packages, but cant use the internet or a network
[16:49] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - your name is easy - "seb" repeated twice.  Auto complete - hm.  I wonder if Pidgin has this option ...  INSTALLATION COMPLETE !!!  Should we continue testing the Internet and hardware now - and I can hop on this chat from my other compute in Ubuntu.  I won't be able to get my wireless router running right now - but I can deal with all this later (drivers and such) ...
[16:49] <og01> ok anybody know of a channel for xwindows?
[16:49] <almark> because the parition on my first harddrive is named the ubuntu drive name I can't format the partition they are both /dev/sda3 which is weird how do I fix this?
[16:49] <blakkheim> mac9416: sisyphuss http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565974
[16:49] <mac9416> sisyphuss, strange. Looks like I need to brush up on how upgrades are done. :-/
[16:49] <blakkheim> masai: i'd read about remastering the iso, or if it's just a few extra programs, put the .deb files on a flash drive
[16:49] <llutz> almark: your question makes no sense. /dev/xxxx are devices, not mount-points, use "sudo fdisk -l" to check what device your harddisk is on
[16:49] <almark> the ubuntu live cd and the harddrive are both /dev/sda3 and It won't work because I need to unmount /dev/sda3
[16:50] <aleray> hi, I'd like to fix some stuf on a remote computer using ssh -X -C to forward x11. But the forwarding is ver very slow, how can I increase the spêed? Shall I install a lighter wm like awesome or so ?
[16:50] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Continue testing - or restart?
[16:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  Pidgin is not that good for IRC,  Xchat is rather popular, but I prefer  Konversation :)   when  Internet works in that Ubuntu install,   system > administration >  terminal  and then  sudo apt-get install konversation :)
[16:50] <researcher1> then I tried chromium-browser-dbg_5.0.328.0~svn20100213r39002-0ubuntu2~ucd1~karmic_amd64.deb when I got "Error: Wrong architecture 'amd64'"
[16:50] <almark> llutz_ simply they are both the same device and that does not allow me to format my harddrive partiton I was using it as an example its hard to explain
[16:50] <iflema> researcher1 if you want to install cromium web browser do as i just instructed.... or didi you miss it?
[16:50] <og01> anybody know how to get the default back after messing aroudn with setkeycodes
[16:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you re start you can boot up the Ubuntu install you just installed,  and Windows should also boot up
[16:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  whichever one you choose
[16:51] <blakkheim> researcher1: that's because you got a 64bit deb and are using 32bit
[16:51] <researcher1> iflema I dont know what u adviced
[16:51] <iflema> researcher1  in a terminal     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily, then sudo apt-get update, then  sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:51] <llutz> almark: you cannot have to devices with the same device-name period
[16:51] <llutz> two devices
[16:51] <almark> why would a Ubuntu disk be on the same /dev/sdc? as a harddrive parition name
[16:51] <researcher1> ok. iflem Im trying
[16:51] <steve_> ok
[16:52] <almark> llutz_ well its happened lol and I would have to move the harddrive parition to another parition because of this lol
[16:52] <llutz> almark: check "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:52] <almark> nod
[16:52] <EViouS> I just downloaded ubuntu server edition, and I just noticed that it is amd64. This might be a stupid question but, will that work on intel atom?
[16:53] <almark> llutz_ ok I see all my partitions on the first hard drive  1 - 6 sda now with mount..
[16:53] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - I'm getting off this computer now - and I'll try catching you now from within Ubuntu on the other one ...
[16:53] <blakkheim> EViouS: if it's the N330 it will
[16:53] <researcher1> iflema where can I paste error report?
[16:53] <blakkheim> EViouS: but if it's a Z series or N2XX series, no
[16:53] <researcher1> i did as u told
[16:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 ok
[16:53] <alankila> EViouS: geeks insist on calling 64-bit versions "amd64" because amd supposedly came up with the extension. So the question is generally: is it 64-bit cpu or not.
[16:53] <mac9416> researcher1, pastebin.excid3.com or paste.ubuntu.com.
[16:53] <mac9416> researcher1, either of those will give you a link to paste here.
[16:54] <iflema> !pastebin | researcher1
[16:54] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  One more thing quickly - where's the battery indicator in Ubuntu?
[16:54] <llutz> almark: don't mount anything you want to put a filesystem on
[16:54] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 not sure the top right I think
[16:54] <EViouS> alankila, well its n270...
[16:55] <happyface> can anyone help me with connecting front case USB ports to my mobo?
[16:55] <almark> llutz I think I know whats going on here, it says the live cd is mounted on a ext3 but that isn't possible last night I install this cd on my hard drive just the live squash version and evendtually this live disk DVD thinks its on the hard drive I will fix this
[16:55] <almark> llutz I will format that part from Debian
[16:56] <iflema> researcher1  copy and paste this to a terminal     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:56] <almark> llutz thanks :)
[16:56] <bluebaron> anyone know why I'm getting ... /build: No such file or directory.  Stop. ?
[16:56] <bluebaron> while trying make on a driver
[16:56] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - and is the GNU GRUB screen - is what is supposed to show up now - as the static screen that gives me my options for which OS to run?
[16:56] <researcher1> ok. Iflema Im doing this
[16:56] <og01> anybody know how to restore keycodes back to defaults
[16:57] <aleray> how can I kill X from the terminal ?
[16:57] <researcher1> yes Iflema it is trying installation
[16:57] <pixellace> hello- how can I apply permissions to a directory so that permissions persist through new files and directories added to that directory?
[16:57] <pixellace> does the user need to have certain permissions?
[16:58] <jrib> pixellace: use ACLs if that's really what you want.  Why do you want this?
[16:59] <tesseracter> i've got a USB stick that lights up when I plug it in, but it doesn't automount, and it doesn't show up on "sudo fdisk -l" other ideas on how to access the drive?
[16:59] <pixellace> jrib: I have a FTP folder that I'm allowing a user to upload web files, but when they create new directories the permissions aren't the same and includes aren't working
[16:59] <jrib> tesseracter: check dmesg
[17:00] <jrib> pixellace: you probably want to check the ftpd's docs in that case
[17:00] <blakkheim> aleray: "killall X" if you're not running gdm. "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" if you are runninf gdm.
[17:01] <sulumar> Hi everyone
[17:01] <plitter> plitter: how do i get a background pic in the Ctrl + Alt +F1?
[17:01] <blakkheim> plitter: that's a tty. you don't get a "background pic" there
[17:01] <pixellace> jrib: hmm... no way to do it so the user doesn't need to worry about permissions?
[17:02] <sulumar> can anyone help me out i cant get my screen resolution fixed
[17:02] <plitter> blakkheim: u sure?
[17:02] <jeffjeffdejeff> hi all.  how can i send a pop up message to another ubuntu machine on my home lan?
[17:02] <plitter> u can view pics there
[17:02] <kohar> need advice i install compiz, emerald, fusion-icon everything configure, but after reboot system (or only X server) compiz do not autoload so i need start up manual.
[17:02] <blakkheim> plitter: maybe we're not talking about the same thing then
[17:02] <jrib> plitter: the two ways I just said :)
[17:02] <jrib> pixellace: the two ways I just said :)
[17:03] <plitter> blakkheim: with fbi u can see pics there
[17:03] <aleray> blakkheim, tha,ks!
[17:03] <mery44> olaa
[17:03] <mery44> que tal??
[17:03] <llutz> plitter: fbsplash
[17:04] <tesseracter> jrib, at least that shows something. http://pastebin.com/d44e49ab1 read errors on a USB don't sound good.
[17:04] <guntbert> !es | mergus
[17:04] <llutz> plitter: there's a howto on gentoo-wiki
[17:04] <guntbert> mergus: sorry, wrong nick
[17:04] <plitter> llutz: thanks will check it out
[17:04] <jrib> tesseracter: yeah, now just try to figure out what causes it :)
[17:05] <mergus> hehe guntbert np
[17:05] <tesseracter> jrib, yeah, im at the end of my experience level.
[17:06] <newubuntuuser> hey, everyone
[17:06] <lookyaso> tried to look at a floppy on two separate boxes running ubuntu but wont mount .....
[17:06] <lookyaso> see it
[17:06] <chrisboom> ok, trying to get backuppc working
[17:06] <chrisboom> anyone used it on ubuntu server before?
[17:07] <jeffjeffdejeff> how can i send a pop up message to another ubuntu machine on my home lan?
[17:07] <og01> Anybody know how to restore the keymap?
[17:07] <jrib> og01: what do you mean exactly?
[17:07] <jrib> chrisboom: I like rsnapshot
[17:07] <m0ron> How i can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:07] <m0ron> ?
[17:07] <newubuntuuser> plaese, can anyone help me with ubuntu installation?
[17:07] <ksbalaji> I have ubuntu hardy and my oo ver.is 2.4.1 I need to install ver 3 of openoffice. How to install?
[17:07] <jrib> newubuntuuser: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[17:08] <chrisboom> will that let me make ftp accessible incremental backups?
[17:08] <sulumar> can anyone help me out i cant get my screen resolution fixed. Im using the Nvidia drivers on Xubuntu 9.10 and im stuck with a res of 640x480
[17:08] <erUSUL> m0ron: you shouldn't edit that file as the header clearly states
[17:08] <jeffjeffdejeff> m0ron: sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:08] <iflema> m0ron adding or removing?
[17:08] <jrib> chrisboom: yes
[17:08] <erUSUL> !grub2 | m0ron
[17:08] <IanWizard> I don't know who to inform about this.  But every time I try to download 9.10 desktop iso,  I get UNR instead.  I've done 64, and 32 bit.  Both go the respective UNR iso.
[17:08] <erUSUL> !gksudo | jeffjeffdejeff
[17:08] <chrisboom> got a tutorial you can send me to?
[17:08] <i_am_ed> Hi, can anyone help with a webcam audio problem, please? The video is working fine but the /dev/audio0 device isn't being created. relevant syslog message: "invalid HEADER", and "snd-usb-audio: probe of 1-1.4.1:1.0 failed with error -5"
[17:08] <og01> jrib: i was trying to setup a strange old keyboard, couldnt really get it to work, now my keyboard is a bit strange, i used the setkeycodes command, how can i get everything back to normal?
[17:08] <_raven_> which tool is useful for camera remote control?
[17:08] <erUSUL> IanWizard: i think there is #ubuntu-website
[17:09] <m0ron> i just get an error when i boot and when i highlite them, press e and remove --floppy i dont get an error. So i want to remove them from grub
[17:09] <i_am_ed> The webcam is a logitech quickcam pro 9000
[17:09] <og01> jrib: my windows key does ctrl-z my page up is a \, my arrow keys dont really work
[17:09] <jrib> og01: you're in a tty?
[17:09] <og01> jrib: in X
[17:09] <jrib> og01: try: setxkbmap -layout us
[17:10] <ujjain> I thought there was a 3.x GB installer disk? I can only find the 650mb installer CD. (9.10, 64-bits)
[17:10] <og01> jrib: it fixed alot of thing!
[17:10] <og01> jrib: but my window key still causes ctrl-z
[17:11] <og01> jrib: and i use it quite heavily
[17:11] <jrib> og01: it's likely it won't survive a reboot
[17:11] <og01> jrib: already did a reboot
[17:11] <newubuntuuser> i have 3 hard drives, one for windowsxp, 2nd for ubuntu and 3rd as ext3 for storage.  on 3rd hard drive i have important documents and i'm scared that i might have virus on it. if i have virus on it would that virus open or destroy my windows xp or else?
[17:11] <jrib> og01: what exactly did you do?
[17:11] <og01> jrib: well not since setting the xkbmap
[17:12] <donata> hello
[17:12] <sulumar> can anyone help me out i cant get my screen resolution fixed. Im using the Nvidia drivers on Xubuntu 9.10 and im stuck with a res of 640x480
[17:12] <og01> jrib: as far as i remember i only used setkeycodes and a tool called keytouch
[17:12] <ujjain> I thought there was a 3.x GB installer disk? I can only find the 650mb installer CD. (9.10, 64-bits)
[17:12] <donata> can anyone help me with this: i am running xubuntu 9.10 on dell laptop and want to activate wireless. how can i do that?
[17:13] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser  Windows virus's can't use Ubuntu to infect or destroy Windows
[17:13] <jrib> og01: well iirc, setkeycodes isn't permanent.  I don't know what keytouch is
[17:13] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser I mean an install of Windows that's on the same computer, dual boot
[17:13] <og01> jrib: its for setting up multimedia keys, and it seemed to work...
[17:13] <abhijit> donata which steps u already taken? in which step u have problem?
[17:13] <og01> jrib: but it might have done something to L_SUPER
[17:14] <jrib> og01: I'm suggesting, it's the reason your windows key doesn't work, right
[17:14] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser and Ubuntu and other Linux distros are immune to Windows malware, however they could possibily get infected by something,  but that's unlikely
[17:14] <sebsebseb> !virus | newubuntuuser
[17:14] <og01> jrib: no idea, i removed it and then rebooted, to no effect
[17:14] <chrisboom> ok, trying to work out rsnapshot
[17:14] <llutz> newubuntuuser: if your data re important, make a backup on secure media. if you think they are infected, delete them.
[17:14] <og01> jrib: i'll try another re-boot
[17:14] <chrisboom> basically, does anyone wanna walk me through this
[17:14] <og01> jrib: ya never knopw
[17:14] <chrisboom> im having a lot of issue
[17:14] <og01> jrib: brb
[17:14] <jrib> chrisboom: just go through the documentation for it
[17:15] <chrisboom> have tried that
[17:15] <chrisboom> managed to install it
[17:15] <donata> hello?
[17:15] <dark_Dragon> my god ppl talk :)
[17:15] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser  possibily infected by something above, meaning malware that has been made for the Linux distro
[17:15] <chrisboom> have no idea how to edit a file from the command line
[17:15] <sulumar> can anyone help me out i cant get my screen resolution fixed. Im using the Nvidia drivers on Xubuntu 9.10 and im stuck with a res of 640x480
[17:15] <chrisboom> Once installed you'll need to make several changes to the configuration file /etc/rsnapshot.conf:
[17:15] <erUSUL> !nano | chrisboom
[17:15] <dark_Dragon> can anyone help me with firewall? need to run upnp & a certain port through it so I can run internet radio server
[17:16] <blakkheim> chrisboom: vi /file/name
[17:16] <abhijit> donata read above
[17:16] <chrisboom> ok cool
[17:16] <Guest72423> Ok I know that I don't know what I am doing but could someone proof read this basic script and tell me how jacked up it is... http://paste.ubuntu.com/375591/
[17:16] <m0ron> Are here some germans that can me help a little bit with my laptop and wlan intel pro/wireless 2200bg
[17:16] <erUSUL> blakkheim: vi for someone who do not know how to edit a file ???....
[17:16] <llutz> !de | m0ron
[17:17] <m0ron> Thanks :D
[17:17] <donata> can anyone help me with this: i am running xubuntu 9.10 on dell laptop and want to activate wireless. how can i do that?
[17:17] <dark_Dragon> hey who let a m0ron on this chan :P j/k
[17:17] <dark_Dragon> anyone know how to configure the default firewall to allow upnp & a certain port?
[17:17] <erUSUL> donata: what wifi chip?
[17:17] <og01> jrib: it didnt survive the reboot this time, thanks for the help
[17:18] <pixellace> jrib: thanks, i got it working!
[17:18] <donata> erUSUL: how can i check it?
[17:18] <newubuntuuser> sebsebseb i'm sorry my english it's not that good, please could you help me verify something on private, i would really apreciate. thank you and all that tryed to help me
[17:18] <erUSUL> dark_Dragon: there is no default firewall in ubnutu
[17:18] <erUSUL> donata: lspci | grep -i net
[17:18] <dark_Dragon> then what is blocking upnp & the port?
[17:18] <erUSUL> donata: one of the two would be the wirelless card
[17:18] <erUSUL> dark_Dragon: maybe simply there is nothing listening on that port?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser for some reason you want to pm, well ok then
[17:19] <donata> erUSUL: 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
[17:19] <donata> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:19] <Lusule> xguru: that guide isn't working for me :(
[17:19] <dark_Dragon> no the server is running its just not going out from my pc to the dns to thet internet
[17:19] <dark_Dragon> I did in terminal & everything is running im using broadwave
[17:20] <Lusule> does anyone know how I can work out why my soundcard isn't working on my toshiba laptop?  System>SoundPreferences>Hardware tab shows up blank
[17:20] <erUSUL> donata: ok you have to install the firmware fo the card do this « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[17:20] <donata> erUSUL: i am on xubuntu 9.10 by the way. would that work?
[17:20] <erUSUL> donata: yes
[17:22] <donata> erUSUL: THANKS
[17:22] <sulumar> can anyone help me out i cant get my screen resolution fixed. Im using the Nvidia drivers on Xubuntu 9.10 and im stuck with a res of 640x480
[17:22] <erUSUL> donata: yw
[17:23] <Jocaru> hi
[17:23] <goose> !ops andi_07 is PM spamming
[17:24] <goose> er..
[17:24] <donata> erUSUL: after installation, i need to restart, right?
[17:24] <goose> !ops | andi_07 is PM spamming
[17:24] <_raven_> which tool is useful for camera remote control?
[17:24] <chrisboom> jrib: will it cope with machines that are sometime off or not on the network?
[17:24] <Jocaru> i've got problems with my wifi
[17:24] <chrisboom> as in if it cant connect to a folder, will it just try a different one?
[17:24] <Jocaru> someone who helps me?
[17:25] <erUSUL> donata: no; no need to restart
[17:25] <soreau> Jocaru: What card chipset is it as reported by the output of lspci?
[17:25] <Jocaru> realtek rtl8187se
[17:25] <soreau> ! realtek | Jocaru
[17:25] <Jocaru> the lspci detect it, but i can't use it
[17:26] <dark_Dragon> any suggestions for a better radio server NOT shoutcast...
[17:26] <Jocaru> but i use the se, not the b
[17:26] <sebsebseb> newubuntuuser  uhmm you could of stayed in the channel,  no need to pm
[17:27] <Guest72423> anyone have time to take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/375591/
[17:27] <soreau> Jocaru: The information may still be relevant
[17:27] <soreau> Jocaru: You might just need to load the module for it
[17:27] <Jocaru> mmm, ok
[17:27] <franknet> can anyone help tell me how to load a driver i downloaded???
[17:27] <donata> erUSUL: how can i activate wireless after firmware installation?
[17:27] <_raven_> which tool is useful for canon-camera remote control?
[17:28] <Lusule> hi guys, I don't have sound working and I can't figure out why.  I can confirm master is not muted in alsamixer, and system>sound preferences> hardware tab is empty
[17:28] <soreau> franknet: It depends. What driver is it and why are you trying to use it?
[17:28] <erUSUL> donata: do a "wlan0" interface appear when you do « iwconfig » ?
[17:28] <dark_Dragon> If I cannot get a radio server on linux I have to rely on winblows :( any suggestions :P
[17:28] <soreau> Lusule: Have you tried disabling pulseaudio?
[17:28] <Pixar2> Hi, i need some help. I have a GTA game and i'm playing it using wine. I need to make a link to one of my mp3 folders to put it in it's radio Mp3 folder to play them, and the link has to be in .lnk windows format so the game can reed it. Any ideas ?
[17:28] <soreau> ! pulseaudio | Lusule
[17:28] <franknet> its a wireless driver i dwnloaded from intel for my motherboard
[17:29] <Lusule> soreau: i don't want to remove something that might not be the problem, is there a way to disable without uninstalling?
[17:29] <soreau> Lusule: Look at the section where it talks about disabling it
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> Guest72423, is there a problem with your script?
[17:29] <soreau> Lusule: It's just a package so if it's not the problem you can reinstall it if you would like
[17:29] <zilkomaa> How to save compiz fusion settings?
[17:30] <soreau> zilkomaa: Install simple-ccsm and select the Custom option that will appear in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects
[17:30] <Guest72423> ZykoticK9 i have no idea i have never done this before so wanted someone to take a look before i ran it so i done mess anything up... i dont even know for sure if my syntax is right
[17:31] <pierre__> hey
[17:31] <Lusule> soreau: there is no where in system>preferneces>sound where I can choose between alsa, pulseaudio or anything else, it does not recognise any hardware at all, it's blank
[17:31] <pierre__> quelqu'un parle francaisµ ?
[17:31] <iflema> dark_Dragon icecast2
[17:31] <chrisboom> jrib: will it cope with machines that are sometime off or not on the network?//
[17:31] <soreau> Lusule: Did you look at the pulseaudio link ubottu gave you?
[17:31] <Lusule> soreau: yes
[17:31] <Lusule> it says to disable it in system>preferences>sound
[17:31]  * soreau looks
[17:32] <tanquiol> zimbra
[17:32] <tanquiol> chanel
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> Guest72423, it looks "ok", only potential issue i see (and i'm not sure it is one) it you use CustomIso3 in one spot and CustomIso in another - is that correct (as I'm not sure)?
[17:32] <zilkomaa> soreau: Ty
[17:33] <franknet> Hi guys - can anyone tell me how to install a driver??? Its for wireless network
[17:33] <ZykoticK9> Guest72423, i've never used scp in this fashion so the syntax would have to be looked over by some one else -- but it look safe to try
[17:34] <soreau> Lusule: Under the section where it says puleaudio removal, it doesn't say anything about a menu option
[17:34] <Guest72423> ZykoticK9 CustomIso# is a dir and CustomIso is a whole nother dir... the scp syntax works when ran by its self
[17:35] <Lusule> soreau: do a search on the word 'disable'
[17:35] <franknet> the name of the driver is intel_ipw2200_120.tgz
[17:35] <HardDisk> the name of the guy that got away is AlCapone
[17:35] <Sh3r1ff> Guest72423: syntax looks about right
[17:36] <jacky> hi guys, anyone here?
[17:36] <b0ll0cks> hi
[17:37] <soreau> franknet: Which card do you have as reported by lspci?
[17:37] <guntbert> !hi | jacky : yes about 1400 people
[17:37] <BTR> da da da
[17:37] <jacky> anyway, i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and wanna check if it's a must to install driver for them?
[17:37] <BTR> da da unbutu dada
[17:37] <BTR> is it free ?
[17:38] <BTR> or fee must
[17:38] <BTR> the opreating system
[17:38] <BTR> Ubuntu
[17:38] <Sh3r1ff> BTR: it is free
[17:38] <cira> romanzo criminale
[17:38] <BTR> :S someone just sold it to me
[17:38] <marienz> jacky: is any of your hardware not working properly?
[17:38] <franknet> soreau - its the 1st time i've used Ubuntu - still feeling my way around - what's lspci?
[17:39] <marienz> jacky: most hardware works just fine out of the box without having to hunt down different drivers
[17:39] <Sh3r1ff> BTR: try to get your money back
[17:39] <mac9416> BTR, you can sell Ubuntu. But the person you sell it to can give it away.
[17:39] <BTR> i will
[17:39] <franknet> i'm trying to get my wireless network to work but so far nothing works
[17:39] <soreau> franknet: It is a command you run in your terminal (apps>accessories>terminal)
[17:39] <jacky> marienz: so far everything is alright. but i saw from the forum someone trying to install gfx driver.
[17:39] <jacky> so i'm wondering is it needed?
[17:40] <marienz> jacky: normally not
[17:40] <marienz> jacky: again: if your hardware currently seems to be working I'd just leave it alone. Don't try to fix what isn't broken.
[17:40] <b0ll0cks> exit
[17:40] <franknet> i'll try it and let u know
[17:40] <jacky> marienz: ok thanks for your advice. :) anyway, how does ubuntu normally install software/applications?
[17:40] <Lusule> if it helps, I think my sound problems might have started after my laptop went into suspend for the first time
[17:41] <jacky> is it like windows? or must we use the terminal?
[17:41] <soreau> Lusule: Did you try rebooting since then?
[17:41] <torchie> is it possible to get the netbook remix interface in desktop ubuntu?
[17:41] <marienz> jacky: I'm a commandline kind of person, but I think you're "supposed" to just use applications -> software center these days
[17:41] <jpds> jacky: Use: System → Admin → Synaptic Package Manager.
[17:41] <marienz> jacky: the important thing is to use the package manager, be that through software center, synaptic, or apt-get or aptitude on the cli. Don't hunt down and install things off the net by hand.
[17:42] <Lusule> soreau: yes :(
[17:42] <marienz> jacky: (so that part of it is unlike windows)
[17:42] <soreau> jacky: In ubuntu, you install software through their repositories using the CLI or GUI or, you can install other third party applications, either a deb package or by compiling source code
[17:42] <syrius> I have a gpg problem I am trying to verify the signature for software package that is sha256 with gpg and it keeps saying it is bad signature after I have put the correct options to enable sha256 gpg --enable-dsa2 --personal-digest-preferences sha256 --verify new_installer_offline.jar.sig new_installer_offline.jar
[17:42] <franknet> soreau - yes i see the card i need listed there
[17:42] <soreau> Lusule: Did you try removing pulseaudio as shown how in the pulseaudio link?
[17:42] <Lusule> soreau: sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload seems to have made it work
[17:42] <franknet> but it doesnt work
[17:43] <timmarshall> on GNOME ART artwork and themes whats the closest thing to apple icons
[17:43] <soreau> Lusule:  oh good oh
[17:43] <soreau> franknet: Post the line here
[17:43] <franknet> ok
[17:43] <Lusule> soreau: which was something they suggested i try with the suspend problem
[17:43] <soreau> Lusule: huh
[17:43] <jacky> wow, that sounds kinda complicated. so let say if i wanna install an application i found, it won't be how i usually install it with windows? am i right?
[17:43] <Lusule> soreau: don't think it's resolved the underlying problem though
[17:43] <soreau> Lusule: Well make a note of it, in case it attacks you again
[17:44] <soreau> Lusule: Try removing pulseaudio, would be my only suggested change
[17:44] <newubuntuuser> sorry sebsebseb ok ill ask in channel than
[17:44] <Sh3r1ff> jacky, if it is in the repository, it is even easier than windows ;)
[17:44] <soreau> Lusule: You don't need it and it has been known to cause problems
[17:44] <fidz> using deb packages is the closest thing to installing like in windows
[17:44] <franknet> soreau - here it is:  02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[17:44] <newubuntuuser> i tried to transfer couple time files with ubuntu from ntfs drive to ext3 drive and it wont store all files on ext3 because it tells me i don't have permission
[17:44] <OuinTuX> salut !
[17:44] <almark> hello how do I make a Ubuntu live cd release my harddrive partition, the cd has mounted itself to the harddrive and not just the cd because of this I can't install from the Live Cd
[17:44] <jacky> sorry but what's a repository? i got no previous experience with linux/ubuntu. Just tried today. :(
[17:44] <soreau> franknet: If you look at the output of iwconfig, does it show a wlan0 or any wireless interface?
[17:45] <franknet> i'll check
[17:45] <soreau> ! repository | jacky
[17:45] <ulrich> cw=Z]P`LeP~M/RcMGSeKR
[17:45] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: go to system > administration > synaptic
[17:45] <almark> I have a full system on the drive that its mounted but I need to get it to stop mounting to that drive so I can install the linux system from ubuntu cd
[17:45] <soreau> jacky: The repositories are basically a huge database of programs that are compatible with the version of ubuntu you install
[17:46] <bros> dpkg: error processing wdiff What should I do?
[17:46] <soreau> jacky: Only a limited necessary and useful set of packages are installed by default
[17:46] <alex_1> hi all, how frequently does ntp daemon request time from the server? thanks
[17:47] <franknet> soreau - this is what i get from iwconfig:    lo        no wireless extensions.
[17:47] <franknet> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[17:47] <franknet> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any
[17:47] <franknet>           Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[17:47] <franknet>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0
[17:47] <FloodBot2> franknet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <franknet>           Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[17:47] <JStoone> !paste | franknet
[17:47] <v8bull> almark: right click on the drive icon on the desktop and choose unmount
[17:47] <soreau> franknet: Use a pastebin service, please
[17:47] <soreau> ! pastebin | franknet
[17:48] <franknet> ok - sory
[17:48] <Lusule> i'm confused as to why forceing a reload fixed it but rebooting the computer didn't
[17:48] <bros> Is wdiff known to give problems while trying to sudo apt-get upgrade or am I a special case?
[17:48] <fidz> don't you need to be root to unmount an external?
[17:48] <jacky> am i right to say that the synaptic is like a database of applications for me to install?
[17:48] <cllaudyu> people i burned ubuntu 9.10 on a cd and during install the hole thing just got stuck, i waited for 2 hours hoppin that somethin would happen but i rebooted it... this thing happens every time i want to install the alternate cd why?
[17:48] <soreau> Luckst0r: That is kinda weird but it could be that you did not completely power down the machine to cold boot and the card was in a defunct state
[17:48] <almark> v8bull_ it isn't visible on the desktop but only by mount its visable and due to this I can't install this live cd to another hard drive partition lol
[17:48] <soreau> Damn it
[17:49] <soreau> Lusule:  That is kinda weird but it could be that you did not completely power down the machine to cold boot and the card was in a defunct state
[17:49] <Sh3r1ff> fidz: no
[17:49] <bros> cllaudyu: A bad download of the image? A bad disk to burn?
[17:49] <Sh3r1ff> fidz: ubuntu uses automount
[17:49] <almark> v8bull_ would you like me to paste it via paste site?
[17:49] <cllaudyu> bros i gues not... i burned simultaneous cds on 4x speed
[17:49] <soreau> Lusule: Sometimes hardware gets in a state that the driver cannot recover from and it needs to be powered down completely, which sometimes not even a regular reboot does
[17:49] <cllaudyu> but il burn another one tho
[17:49] <almark> v8bull_ honestly I can't see why the live cd would use that partition to mount itself just a sec
[17:49] <franknet> soreau: i pasted it in the appropriate place
[17:50] <soreau> franknet: So your wifi device looks like it's eth1, for whatever reason
[17:50] <moes> jacky...That is a correct assumptiom
[17:50] <franknet> what does that mean??????
[17:50] <soreau> franknet: You have to paste the link in here so we can see what you posted
[17:50] <Lusule> soreau: well thanks for the help, at least i've got something i can bite my teeth into now, the sound troubleshooting page has a script that may help
[17:50] <soreau> Lusule: ok
[17:50] <newubuntuuser> i tried to transfer couple time files with ubuntu from ntfs drive to ext3 drive and it wont store all files on ext3 because it tells me i don't have permission, howcan i get full permission for that drive?
[17:50] <v8bull> almark: when u say it won't install, what do u mean? where does it fail?
[17:51] <almark> v8bull_ the live cd is on this partition /dev/sda6 on /live/image type ext3 (rw) and I don't know why
[17:51] <almark> v8bull_ one sec
[17:51] <jacky> moes: ah, alright was reading through ubuntu help and got better understanding already.
[17:51] <franknet> soreau - here's the link:  /375614
[17:51] <soreau> franknet: There are a lot of pastebin sites. Please give the full link
[17:51] <fidz> newubuntuuser: try copy?
[17:51] <jacky> another thing i would like to ask is, is anti virus necessary on ubuntu? I always heard that linux os won't get viruses but how true is that?
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, is this your main Ubuntu drive or an external or additional internal drive you are trying to copy to?
[17:52] <franknet> ok
[17:52] <moes> jacky..Once inside synpatic you can do a search and find program you want]
[17:52] <fidz> jacky: you dont really need an antivirus
[17:52] <almark> v8bull_ migration-assistant needs to mount a partition, but cannot do so because the following mount point could not  be unmounted: /dev/sda6
[17:52] <newubuntuuser> additional ext3 storrage for files
[17:52] <franknet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/375614/
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, where is the drive mounted?
[17:53] <guntbert> !md5sum | cllaudyu did you check?
[17:53] <almark> v8bull_ what is odd is why does it need to umount that partition in the first place, I'm trying to install to sda3 that has a fresh format weird lol
[17:53] <cllaudyu> guntbert im burning the cd and il check it during boot
[17:53] <newubuntuuser> zykotick9 what you mean where is drive mounted?
[17:53] <jacky> moes: is those programs available for windows the same for ubuntu?
[17:53] <jacky> or they have a different set of applications?
[17:53] <v8bull> almark: i got nothin...
[17:53] <almark> v8bull_ /dev/sda6 is my Debian system
[17:54] <guntbert> cllaudyu: you *should* check the iso before burning
[17:54] <almark> v8bull_ this sounds like a bug I'm reading about
[17:54] <soreau> franknet: are you sure you don't have the wifi killswitch engaged?
[17:54] <franknet> no i'm not sure - how can i check it????
[17:54] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, in a terminal type "mount" and it will show you all your partitions and where they are mounted on the filesystem -- find the drive and mountpoint that your storage drive is using and report back
[17:54] <moes> jacky ..most programs in ubuntu will have a equveant to windows
[17:54] <cllaudyu> guntbert download of the image went fine as i seen
[17:54] <soreau> franknet: Install wicd and run it
[17:55] <jacky> moes: i tried searching for google chrome in synaptic but didn't found anything.
[17:55] <franknet> ok - i'll try
[17:55] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: not everything is in the repositories
[17:55] <fidz> jacky, i dont think chrome is available for any other os but windows
[17:55] <ralze> Hi, I want to compile netatalk with ssl support, so I at one point I do the "apt-get build-dep netatalk". but unexpectedly I get this output: http://dpaste.com/158371/
[17:55] <ralze> could someone explain to me, what it's trying to say?
[17:55] <jacky> fidz: oh? haha, didn't know about that. thanks for noticing.
[17:55] <guntbert> alex_1: that depends: in the beginning its checking every few minutes, when it gets a stable time its less than once an hour ( iirc )
[17:55] <almark> v8bull_ thanks for trying I'm just scratching my head here, why is this live cd attached to a hard drive mount, does that usually happen I don't usually install with live cds but this is a off shoot 9.10 called Puredyne
[17:56] <cllaudyu> alternate is getting stuck ok but on live cd i always get a bad cd error at the end of install... if i check it and if everything is ok what then?
[17:56] <almark> v8bull_ But its still Ubuntu 9.10
[17:56] <v8bull> jacky: just google "google chrome" u have to install it from the website
[17:56] <guntbert> cllaudyu: believe me, you *should check*
[17:56] <Aijse> chrome is there for ubuntu
[17:56] <fidz> oh... sorry bout that
[17:56] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: google chromo is available for linux
[17:56] <newubuntuuser> zykotick9 storage drive is mounted on /dev/sdc1 on /media/Vazno type ext2
[17:56] <jacky> anyway, since firefox is in-built with ubuntu does that mean it work better?
[17:57] <v8bull> almark: try rebooting and running Install Ubuntu instead of Try Ubuntu
[17:57] <syn-ack> jack5463: No.
[17:57] <syn-ack> just means they included it
[17:57] <v8bull> almark: might work..
[17:57] <soreau> ralze: Try installing libcups2-dev first
[17:57] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: that just means canonical chose firefox
[17:57] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, to change it so any user on your system can write to /media/Vazno -- cd /media && sudo chmod ugo+rwx Vazno
[17:57] <alex_1> guntbert, thanks. I found "maxpoll" setting: "maxpoll option to an upper limit of 17 (36 h)" does it min 36hours is max which I can choose?
[17:58] <ralze> soreau, alright
[17:58] <varisitee> hi
[17:58] <jacky> also in windows there's a install/uninstall function. so in ubuntu if i decides to uninstall an application, how should i go about doing it?
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, unless this is a solid state drive - ext2 is probably not the best choice FYI (ext3 or ext4 would be better)
[17:58] <jpl> Hi, there...
[17:58] <varisitee> does alsa support equalizer
[17:58] <guntbert> alex_1: I don't remember right now (to me it was a "set once and forget" thing) but man ntpd should tell you
[17:58] <ralze> soreau, i thought, the build-dep function was there to take care of excactly that kinda stuff?
[17:58] <cllaudyu> and what bout this, after i installed ubuntu with wubi, all went fine, booting fine, opening the system ok, but when the desktop appears, everything got stuck again
[17:58] <alex_1> ok
[17:59] <soreau> jacky: There is synaptic which is a gui frontend tot he package manager and apt-get which is a command line utility
[17:59] <guntbert> !software | jacky
[17:59] <soreau> ralze: It is *shrug*
[17:59] <newubuntuuser> zykotick9 that storage drive have virus on it, so if i get full permission would virus harm my computer
[17:59] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: in synaptic you can also remove software, just search something that is installed
[17:59] <soreau> ralze: file a bug if it bothers you
[17:59] <franknet> soreau - i cant install wicd - i posted the error message to http://paste.ubuntu.com/375621/
[17:59] <cllaudyu> what can be the problem?
[17:59] <ralze> soreau, uh, never filed a bug before :D where would I do it?
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, not your Ubuntu (and MS can't read EXT filesystems so it's probably safe too)
[18:00] <soreau> franknet: sudo apt-get install wicd && wicd
[18:00] <soreau> ! bug | ralze
[18:00] <ralze> sweet :) thx for your help!
[18:00] <michael> Hey there! I connected my Laptop to the TV (VGA cable), which worked great, but now everything in my panel (top) is mixed up. I was able to repair a bit of it, but stuff like the battery, the wifi-indicator and the sound-indicator can't be moved. How to I fix this? I want the clock and switch off menu on the right side, like it's used to be...
[18:01] <jack5463> syn-ack, I didn
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> michael, if you right click on the ones that can't move there should be an option to Unlock from Panel -- then you'll be able to move them
[18:01] <jacky> ok guys last question before I go read the helps. Is my laptop is able to see youtube videos along with sound. does it mean my gfx and sound card or whatever is fine and i don't need to install any drivers for them?
[18:01] <ralze> soreau, would that bug be associated with netatalk or with apt?
[18:01] <jnyknx> howdy all, does anyone know anything new about the grub2/wubi issue? any fixes yet? or is the best bet the disk file work-around? anyone having this trouble?
[18:01] <michael> zykoticK9, as I said, this worked with some stuff, but the battery indicator does not have lock/move
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> jacky, i'm affraid youtube is NOT a good test for graphics
[18:02] <franknet> soreau - sorry but i dont know how to do that - remember this is the 1st time in using ubuntu
[18:02] <jacky> ZykoticK9: any suggestion on how to test?
[18:02] <syn-ack> jack5463: hrm?
[18:02] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: installing the propietary driver is not required, but it is however needed for 3D support
[18:02] <newubuntuuser> ok i will format to ext4, thank you, everyone your help is really apreacited
[18:02] <jacky> 3D?
[18:02] <ZykoticK9> !panels > michael
[18:02] <ZykoticK9> michael, if you want to reset to defaults see the ubottu message
[18:03] <HammerHead66> ok so I went into terminal and typed : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree But only some of the flash stuff works. Can anyone help me please
[18:03] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: for example, i play wolfenstein et on linux, without the ati driver installed, it will not play
[18:03] <ZykoticK9> jacky, try "glxgears" in a terminal, see if that works
[18:03] <newubuntuuser> have a great weekend everyone, bye
[18:03] <soreau> franknet: 1) Open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) 2) Type 'sudo apt-get install wicd' without quotes or tick marks and press enter 3) Type 'wicd' without quotes and press enter to run it after it's installed
[18:03] <franknet> ok thanks
[18:04] <soreau> ralze: I really don't know. My guess would be apt
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> newubuntuuser, you don't have to reformat if you don't want too
[18:04] <soreau> ralze: Or maybe with the -dev package
[18:04] <michael> ZykoticK9: "operation not permitted", even when using sudo
[18:04] <soreau> ralze: not sure. make an educated guess ;)
[18:04] <michael> hm, now it flickered and worked. Weird
[18:04] <jacky> yes glxgears works in terminal.
[18:05] <jnyknx> anyone had/having difficulty with the grub upgrades with regard to wubi?
[18:05] <michael> But this is hardly ideal. Now all my quickstart thingies are gone.
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> jacky, then you have "some" sort of 3d working then, good sign
[18:05] <michael> And I don't want to add them every time I connect my laptop to the TV.
[18:05] <jacky> oh? it flickered once in abit though. not very frequent.
[18:05] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:05] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿ok so I went into terminal and typed : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree But only some of the flash stuff works. Can anyone help me please
[18:06] <soreau> jacky: Being able to play youtube videos does not mean your graphics drivers have 3D capabilities
[18:06] <michael> Well, I guess I'll have to wait for Ubuntu 10.4 for this. Thanks anyway.
[18:06] <michael> Bye
[18:06] <jacky> hammerhead66: i installed flash directly from adobe website.
[18:06] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:06] <soreau> jacky: Look at the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer' to see if you have 3D
[18:06] <ralze> soreau, thanks :) well, this "bug" is only relevant, because of another bug, which leads to me having to compile that program manually ...
[18:06] <franknet> soreau it configured wicd but i never got a chance to run it - i think it installed it
[18:06] <blanju> please hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:06] <LordofKings> can anyone guide me on this..how adservers are built ?
[18:06] <mag> i just have installed ubuntu
[18:06] <HammerHead66> ﻿jacky: I am using 64-bit Linux
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> soreau, doesn't glxgears mean he has some sort of 3d though?
[18:06] <soreau> franknet: Just type wicd and press enter and see what happens
[18:06] <Sh3r1ff> HammerHead66: i use adobe-flashplugin
[18:06] <soreau> ZykoticK9: Absolutely not
[18:07] <jacky> soreau: what do i do next?
[18:07] <Guest97261> i dont have menu.lst in my /boot/grub directory
[18:07] <Guest97261> why?
[18:07] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:07] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:07] <jacky> this is the output: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RV515 7145) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[18:07] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:07] <FloodBot2> blanju: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <caballo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:07] <soreau> jacky: First, explain what you're trying to do exactly
[18:07] <blanju> sorry i new to this
[18:07] <soreau> blanju: Look in sys>admin>hardware drivers
[18:07] <VCoolio> Guest97261: do you have karmic? that's a new grub, it has /etc/default/grub
[18:08] <blanju> i can get to video card to work properly
[18:08] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: you have the mesa driver, depending on what you are using ubuntu for, not everything will work
[18:08] <jack5463> syn-ack, i think you texted me by accident. ignore it
[18:08] <monster_> Anyone mind helping me? I cannot see either of my task panels/bars unless I run xfce4-panel in the terminal. At that point, they appear however I must keep the terminal open or they will disappear again.
[18:08] <soreau> jacky: looks like you have 3D working on your ati card just fine with the open drivers
[18:08] <blanju> i install the vidia driver
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> Guest97261, if you are using Karmic it's not there by default as Grub2 doesn't use it
[18:09] <soreau> jacky: And if you hear sound, your audio is probably working fine toio
[18:09] <soreau> too*
[18:09] <Lusule> hi guys :) i created a bash shell script in ~/bin to launch a wine program without having to type the whole command, and it works fine from terminal, but not from the alt-f2 run box - how do i make that run box also look in ~/bin?
[18:09] <Guest97261> VCoolio, aaaa ok
[18:09] <jacky> soreau: i saw one of the video on youtube about Beryl Ubuntu and I'm kinda interested to set it up that way
[18:09] <VCoolio> monster_: use the alt+f2 box, or do "nohup xfce-panel", then close the terminal
[18:09] <caballo> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:09] <Sh3r1ff> Lusule: select run in terminal
[18:09] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le+
[18:09] <Guest97261> ZykoticK9, so how can i add windows xp to my grub?
[18:10] <franknet> soreau - please see the following post http://paste.ubuntu.com/375625/
[18:10] <blanju> hello can anyone help me setup my nvidia 6150 le
[18:10] <almark> Is there a way to install a full system from a live cd with out using in installer because the installer isnt working, I want to do it from term
[18:10] <soreau> Lusule: First, I would choose /usr/local/bin as the location for scripts you create. In any event, did you specify the complete path to the scriptin Alt+F2?
[18:10] <ZykoticK9> Lusule, from a menu/alt+f2 you'd have to add "gnome-terminal -e $REST_OF_COMMAND"
[18:10] <Lusule> Sh3r1ff: not sure i understand you there I'm afraid :(
[18:10] <ZykoticK9> Lusule, Sh3r1ff's idea is easier
[18:10] <Sh3r1ff> Lusule: do alt + f2 and in the screen select run in terminal, and enter the name of the script
[18:11] <Lusule> Sh3r1ff: ah okay thanks :)
[18:11] <caballo> olaaaaaaaaaa
[18:11] <soreau> franknet: You need to close synaptic package manager and software update windows first
[18:11] <gbee> will dist upgrading Ubuntu Remix get me plain Ubuntu or the newer Ubuntu Remix? I'm assuming that it pulls the package lists from one place and as a result may install apps and configs which Remix wouldn't, am I wrong?
[18:11] <Lusule> Sh3r1ff: hmm not working, it still wants me to put the full path to the script, i was hoping to find a way to get it to check ~/bin automatically
[18:12] <monster_> VCoolio: Ah, thanks every so much.
[18:12] <Sh3r1ff> Lusule: add ~/bin to your path
[18:12] <Lusule> Sh3r1ff: i did, but i'm not sure how to update the computer to realise i did that - i updated a terminal by doing .~/.bashrc but i don't know how to update everything else
[18:12] <jacky> hey guys, i really appreciate all the help i received within secs of asking. never knew such a helpful & strong community exists. this justified my switch to ubuntu. Thanks alot guys. :) :) :)
[18:12] <LordofKings> can anyone guide me on this..how "Ad servers" are built ?
[18:12] <almark> KykoticK9_  are you still here I have your answer
[18:12] <magg> ZykoticK9, is there any similar file as menu.lst in grub2?
[18:12] <blanju> please
[18:12] <soreau> Lusule: Yea, ~/bin is not in your default path. Consider 'echo $PATH'
[18:12] <blanju> help
[18:12] <blanju> help
[18:12] <timmarshall> yo dudes and ladies how do i make a shortcut to my CD/DvD drive and file system
[18:12] <FloodBot2> blanju: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <blanju> help
[18:12] <Lusule> soreau: it is now, i put it there through .bashrc
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > magg
[18:13] <magg> ZykoticK9, i dont know how to configure new grub
[18:13] <Sh3r1ff> Lusule: log off and log on again or do . ~/.bashrc
[18:13] <Lusule> soreau: i just need to get the computer to re-check .bashrc
[18:13] <timmarshall> stop spamming
[18:13] <almark> KykoticK9_  Are you runnning a dual hard drive system with windows on one drive and linux on the other?
[18:13] <soreau> Lusule: ok
[18:14] <tp43> magg, I am pretty sure its in the same place except its called menu.cfg now
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> magg, see the link the bot gave you - it's all i know about Grub2 on that page ;)
[18:14] <alienkid10> is there a tutorial for booting off a LiveCD using a Flashdriver for the persistent image for 9.10
[18:14] <alienkid10> ?
[18:14] <timmarshall_> hello
[18:15] <timmarshall> hello
[18:15] <almark> alienkid10_ do you mean using a Usb flash drive?
[18:15] <alienkid10> almark: yes the Flash drive hold the casper-rw image
[18:15] <jacky> do you guys encounter not being able to enter a website after entering your logon details?
[18:15] <timmarshall_> does anyone know how to make shortcuts from cd rom to desktop?
[18:16] <ikonia> jacky: what website ?
[18:16] <Guest35294> how to open ssh port (port 22) in ubuntu 9.10
[18:16] <ikonia> jacky: what error
[18:16] <almark> alienkid10_  you can try this program http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:16] <blakkheim> Guest35294: iptables
[18:16] <ikonia> Guest35294: it's already open, you just need openssh-server installed
[18:16] <llutz> Guest35294: start sshd
[18:16] <ikonia> blakkheim: it's already open
[18:16] <jacky> well, i tried entering a betting site which i have an account with
[18:16] <tp43> timmarshall_, ls -s desktop-shortcut-to-cdrom /media/cdrom
[18:16] <almark> alienkid10_  here I will give you more from puredyne, that is kinda what I'm working on now
[18:16] <jacky> however, upon entering my logon details it just stuck there.
[18:16] <blakkheim> ikonia: ook
[18:16] <jacky> no error message was given though
[18:16] <alienkid10> boot CD with flash drive in hit F6 hit esc add persistent and it saves settings. Tried the tut here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence and all that is in the casper-rw file is a empty lost+found folder
[18:16] <ikonia> jacky: contact the website maintainer
[18:16] <wozza> Guest35294 guarddog is pretty good basic iptables base firewall
[18:17] <jnl> andi_07 has on join spam
[18:17] <wozza> jacky - enable cookies
[18:17] <almark> alienkid10_  http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/wiki/liveUSBInstall kinda study that, its all the same thing really, you have to mount the squashfs
[18:17] <franknet> soreau - i've included a new paste -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/375629/  I'm not sure if i followed yr previous instructions correctly
[18:17] <jacky> how do i enable cookies then?
[18:18] <ikonia> jacky: they are enabled by default
[18:18] <almark> alienkid10_  try looking up on google install ubuntu live cd to Usb Flash
[18:18] <alienkid10> almark: no can't boot from USB that's why I need the LiveCD!
[18:18] <prodigel> hi all. I have this script that generates captcha that uses imagettfbbox. Which library needs to be installed make it work? I'm using ubuntu and gd is already installed. thanks
[18:18] <jacky> if thats the case than that shouldn't solve the problem. will a different browser works?
[18:18] <ikonia> prodigel: depends what library calls the script makes
[18:18] <ikonia> jacky: I don't know, what site is it and we can test it
[18:19] <FoolsRun> Okay, this is kind of a complicated question so stick with me: I'm trying to run a VNC server showing the Ubuntu login screen. This worked before Karmic, and broke after the upgrade. The VNC server is running from xinetd, it works, I can connect, but all I see is a gray cross-hatched background and the default "X" cursor. XDMCP is enabled. Help?
[18:19] <soreau> franknet: hmm.. not sure what's going on then. Have you tried loggin out then loggin back in and trying to install it again?
[18:19] <almark> alienkid10_  hmm and your computer allows you to boot from usb is this correct?
[18:19] <franknet> no i didnt log out
[18:19] <alienkid10> almark: no
[18:19] <jacky> It's ibcbet.com
[18:19] <donata> erUSUL: it says - no wireless extension
[18:19] <franknet> i'll try that
[18:20] <alienkid10> almark: nether do most other comps I plan to do this on
[18:20] <almark> alienkid10_  if your system BIOS does not allow you to boot from usb then you have to use just cd i'm afraid
[18:20] <alienkid10> almark: yes that's what I said I am doing!
[18:20] <donata> erUSUL: any idea how to get it working?
[18:20] <Guest35294> thank you
[18:20] <wozza> FoolsRun there is now window manager
[18:21] <almark> alienkid10_  let me scroll up
[18:21] <FoolsRun> wozza: gdm is running, I have another user auto-log-in for reasons I won't get into.
[18:21] <alienkid10> almark: but it won't save to the casper-rw image! All I get is a empty lost+found folder in there even after 2 hours of editing on the live system
[18:21] <michal_> does anyone knwo how to setup a lan network that automatically loads on reboot?
[18:22] <ikonia> michal_: use the gnome network manager
[18:22] <ikonia> michal_: top right of your screen
[18:22] <donata> does anyone knows how to activate wireless connection on xubuntu 9.10?
[18:22] <hayer> My www -folder where my webfiles is located returns www-data:www-data (with ls -l) but I cant edit them with my user. How can I make my user able to edit them?
[18:22] <alienkid10> donata: try #xubuntu
[18:22] <almark> alienkid10_  let me try to understand what you want to do, you want to make a live-usb ubuntu
[18:23] <michal_> ikonia: im trying to use it to share files over it
[18:23] <jacky> ikonia: alright just tested it with chrome and it works on chorme. not on firefox.
[18:23] <alienkid10> almark: depends what you mean. If you mean boot from USB then no
[18:23] <FoolsRun> wozza: does gdm have to know that I want to connect on that display (:9) somehow? It didn't need anything like that before Karmic
[18:23] <ikonia> michal_: that doesn't change anything
[18:23] <almark> alienkid10_  could I have more info on what your wanting to achive :)
[18:23] <alienkid10> almark: yes
[18:23] <almark> alienkid10_  thanks
[18:23] <Alacard> I am attempting to load UNR's tab based UI on a default load of Ubuntu 9.04 but my tabs don't work, any ideas?
[18:23] <alienkid10> let me type it up
[18:23] <michal_> ikonia: so i dont need to use samba or anything like that?
[18:24] <hayer> My www -folder where my webfiles is located returns www-data:www-data (with ls -l) but I cant edit them with my user. How can I make my user able to edit them? im using Karmic btw
[18:24] <IP-v6> i have strange issue, empathy can't connect msn but pidgin can. What can be wrong with empathy ?
[18:24] <melfy> hi everyone!  i have a 1.5TB external drive that is formatted NTFS and i plugged into ubuntu 8.10 to copy some files.... and now when I plug into windows 7 it comes up as RAW & asks to format... any suggestions?
[18:24] <gizmobay> Can someone tell me the command to run to check to see how badly my systems is fragmented?
[18:24] <ikonia> michal_: yes, but that's not what you asked, you asked for a network that started a boot
[18:24] <zcat[1]> hayer:  chmod a+rw -R /var/www/
[18:24] <timmarshall_> can some private message me on how to create a short cut of the dvd drive and the file system to my desktop please
[18:24] <ubuntu_giant> I have An ATI Radeon HD 3100 graphics card.  With the most recent update, the drivers disappeared (including amdccle).  What packages do I need to install to get the drivers back?  Thanks.
[18:24] <ikonia> melfy: ask the guys in ##windows
[18:25] <hayer> My www -folder where my webfiles is located returns www-data:www-data (with ls -l) but I cant edit them with my user. How can I make my user able to edit them? im using Karmic btw   PM please.. If it is possible to get any help here (ASAP)
[18:25] <zcat[1]> hayer:  or chown -R hayer:hayer /var/www might work too, as long as www-data can still read them
[18:25] <wozza> FoolsRun, dunno how gdm and Xvnc talk some sort of chooser-like broadcast
[18:25] <alienkid10> almark: I am trying to do the following be able wlak up to any computer stick in my USB stick and LiveCD boot to the LiveCD and then add persistent to the boot options and have all my packages etc. there. Not booting to USB. But booting off the CD and thus reading from CD for most of the system. Just saving chnages to the USB
[18:26] <hayer> zcat[1] : dosnt work, then the website returns access denied.
[18:26] <zcat[1]> hayer:  chmod a+rw -R /var/www/
[18:26] <melfy> ikonia: ty
[18:26] <almark> ahh! :)
[18:26] <wozza> alienkid10, you are better off building a grub2 based cdrom to boot into your real system
[18:26] <michal_> ikonia: sory..let me explai. i have 2 ubuntu laptops one is dual boot w/ win7. I want to be able to connect on lan and have the connection start up when i boot in order for me to share
[18:26] <ionut> hey guys, anyone knows a good partition editor ?
[18:26] <ionut> and easy to use
[18:26] <zcat[1]> ionut:  gparted ?
[18:26] <alienkid10> wozza: how do I take my system with me if I am moving from house to house!??!
[18:26] <Stevethepirate> gparted
[18:26] <michal_> gparted
[18:26] <ikonia> michal_: ok - so set an ipaddress with the tool I told you to use, then configure samba to act as a file server
[18:27] <ionut> is it GUI  ?
[18:27] <wozza> alienkid10, on a removable hdd and a boot cd
[18:27] <Stevethepirate> ya
[18:27] <almark> alienkid10 ok you want to just save all your work, like me lol I'm in this same boat trying to install this ubuntu live ok just a sec
[18:27] <hayer> zcat[1] : Now I can't see the files... >_>
[18:27] <michal_> ikoni: should i use the given ip address?
[18:27] <almark> alienkid10 are you working with docs or music or something?
[18:27] <alienkid10> wozza: would you like to buy me one?
[18:27] <ionut> zcat[1]: Stevethepirate thx
[18:27] <michal_> ikoni: or have a dhcp set
[18:27] <ikonia> michal_: or use dhcp, it depends how your network is setup
[18:28] <ionut> michal_: tnx
[18:28] <almark> alienkid10 you said you got the lost and found folder already on your usb drive yes?
[18:28] <alienkid10> almark: Blender that's why I need to be persistent since I have to install depends and I don't always have internet
[18:28] <ionut> aw,by the  way,anyone knows how can i activate the webcam with Pidgin?
[18:28] <alienkid10> almark: yes it's the only thing in casper-rw after rebooting
[18:28] <ZykoticK9> hayer, the next time you have this "issue" just add your user to the www-data group and you should be fine < for next time
[18:28] <almark> alienkid10 from what I have seen Lost and Found is a non writable folder, i'm not to fimilar with this but I will try to help.
[18:28] <alienkid10> ionut: Pidgin doesn't support mic/webcam
[18:29] <zcat[1]> hayer:  no idea what you're doing wrong but all I do is make everything in /var/www/ +rw so I can write to it, and default for new files is a+r so apache can still read them...
[18:29] <almark> alienkid10 did you say you tried to mkdir other dirs from the usb drive?
[18:29] <michal_> ikoni: do you know of a good samba guide? ive been looking around found a ton but for some reason one comp sees the other   but not the other way around
[18:29] <ikonia> !samba | michal_
[18:29] <ionut> look what error i get  "name has sent you a webcam invite, which is not yet supported."
[18:29] <almark> alienkid10 I use blender too :)
[18:29] <alienkid10> almark: I know but it's the only thing in the casper-rw image. I have not tried to mkdir anything. I thought the CD would handle that when needed
[18:30] <hayer> ZykoticK9 : tried that.. but I think I failed at it. usermod -a -G www-data hayer <- correct?
[18:30] <almark> alienkid10 but you want the cd to create these folders for you automatically on your flash drive yes?
[18:30] <alienkid10> the CD makes the lost+found folder in casper-rw automaticly
[18:30] <michal_> ikoni: thanx
[18:30] <llutz> hayer: sudo adduser hayer www-data
[18:30] <michal_> ikonia: thanx
[18:30] <almark> alienkid10 sorry for being so cryptic this one is new to me but I will try
[18:30] <prodigel> ikonia, well the function is loaded properly but it can't read the foo.ttf font file
[18:31] <hayer> it says "hayer is already a member 'www-data'" ... wtf?
[18:31] <alienkid10> almark: I thought it would yes. I realy just want my install packages and customizations saved
[18:31] <ikonia> prodigel: that suggests that font is invalid
[18:31] <ubuntu_giant> Anybody with an ATI Radeon card had any trouble lately...something about low-graphics?
[18:31] <almark> alienkid10 then If I were you to make up for downtime which sucks anyway lol just make some folders on that usb drive lol
[18:31] <alienkid10> almark: I didn't describe very well. wozza: you hae any imput as to why persistent is only saving the lost+found folder?
[18:32] <prodigel> ikonia, it works on another computer, I doubt the file is corrupted. Could there be any other cause?
[18:32] <wozza> lost+found is for bad inodes
[18:32] <almark> alienkid10 wozza?
[18:32] <zcat[1]> hayer:  after joining a group I think you have to log out and back in for it to be effective
[18:32] <almark> oh
[18:32] <almark> lol
[18:32] <alienkid10> almark: remake all the normal install folders?
[18:32] <ikonia> prodigel: I didn't say it was corrupted, invalid
[18:32] <hayer> zcat[1] : will try right away thanks :)
[18:32] <prodigel> ikonia, that meaning?
[18:32] <almark> alienkid_ I think if you just make a home folder or something it will remain on the usb drive its ext 3 right?
[18:32] <alienkid10> almark: wozza is another person on here
[18:32] <alienkid10> yes
[18:32] <wozza> no i am not a person
[18:33] <wozza> i am a hampster
[18:33] <alienkid10> wozza: dragon? Bot?
[18:33] <ikonia> prodigel: the font file is invalid or is not supported with the font server you're using
[18:33] <alienkid10> wozza: ohh
[18:33] <almark> alienkid_ heck you could make the usb flash drive fat 32 if you wanted and still save those files just load up the live cd and add your projects to your usb, but is that exact what you wanted to do?
[18:33] <ionut> can i install skype on ubuntu?
[18:33] <frankS2> how do i compile fortran
[18:33]  * zcat[1] wonders how hayer could run chmod -R a+rw /var/www and then be _unable_ to see the files in /var/www
[18:33] <wozza> almark, naah that wont work
[18:33] <frankS2> how do i compile fortran sourcecode with GCC+
[18:33] <blakkheim> !compile > frankS2
[18:34] <wozza> ionut sure download it from skype
[18:34] <alienkid10> not exactly if it was I wouldn't be here :
[18:34] <ikonia> frankS2: you need the gcc-fortran compiler
[18:34] <prodigel> ikonia, how can I find out font/font server compatibility on my system?
[18:34] <almark> wozza_ what is it exact he wants to do I don't think its my field but I would like to know anyway :)
[18:34] <ionut> wozza: thx
[18:34] <ZykoticK9> ionut, http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[18:34] <frankS2> ikonia: yes, gcc needs some args icant seem to find
[18:34] <ikonia> prodigel: what is the system that it works on running ?
[18:34] <wozza> almark have a portable os
[18:34] <ikonia> frankS2: it doesn't need arguments, it needs the gcc fortran compiler
[18:34] <laurita> k
[18:34] <laurita> kienes sois bosotros
[18:34] <almark> wozza_ from his live cd only, he says he needs to just use the live cd for booting, oh wait a min
[18:35] <hayer> zcat[1] : And I'm back.. Still can't see my files.
[18:35] <prodigel> ikonia, I can't find out much info about it. Are you familiar with CPanel?
[18:35] <zcat[1]> hayer:  you did do a+rw not a-rw right?
[18:35] <ikonia> prodigel: yes, the devils tool.
[18:35] <almark> alienkid_ you want to use the live cd so you can boot correct and due to many ppl not having a computer equipped with usb boot support you want your entire file system on the usb home, etc, usr .. etc... right?
[18:35] <alienkid10> yeah I didn't explain very well :( New to me too so hard to explain
[18:35] <ikonia> prodigel: I suggest you contact the person who wrote/maintains the script
[18:36] <almark> alienkid_ I think I just hit it on the head
[18:36] <fidz> i thank you all helpers here... you really are all dedicated
[18:36] <candy> can anybody suggesst me a movie making software for ubuntu ??
[18:36] <candy> movie making from photos.. software??
[18:36] <wozza> alienkid10, you could install ubuntu onto a fake disk with virtualbox then tweak that so it mounts /var /tmp and /home from usb flash disk - then burn that on to a cd and make it bootable somehow
[18:36] <prodigel> ikonia, I see. Thanks for the info.
[18:36] <hayer> zcat[1] : Yes, and if I do "$ gedit /var/www/index.php"
[18:36] <zcat[1]> hayer:  sudo chown -R /var/www www-data:www-data ; chmod -R go+rw /var/www
[18:36] <wozza> candy,
[18:36] <almark> alienkid_ you use the live cd to get a system going then you will put the usb in the port and have all of your system right there and ready for you
[18:36] <wozza> http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[18:36] <alienkid10> almark: almost exactly right! Persistentnse as I understand it only saves changes to the USB stick not the whole file system
[18:36] <wozza> http://www.kdenlive.org/
[18:36] <hayer> zcat[1] : Yes, and if I do "$ gedit /var/www/index.php" it says no permission when I'm tryin' to save
[18:37] <zcat[1]> Oops left sudo off the second command
[18:37] <wozza> http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/Ardour?content=62800
[18:37] <almark> alienkid_ you want to do what I want to do lol funny isn't it
[18:37] <wozza> those links are all for candy
[18:37] <candy> fidz, not all. many come to take help and many to help :-)
[18:37] <alienkid10> almark: you want to do the samething?
[18:37] <almark> alienkid_ I want to make a live cd saveable from my hard drive
[18:37] <almark> alienkid_ kinda
[18:37] <alienkid10> tut I followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[18:38] <zcat[1]> hayer:  ls -ld /var/www and post the resut here?
[18:38] <almark> alienkid_ I have a live cd disto on my hard drive but of course its just the cd version but running from the hard drive which is just like the real cd just you can't save to squash lol
[18:38] <alienkid10> everything works 'cept saving changes back to the stick :(
[18:38] <wozza> just install onto an hdd even 20gb..
[18:38] <almark> alienkid_ I'll have a look
[18:38] <zcat[1]> hayer:  and also ls -l /var/www/index.php
[18:38] <hayer> zcat[1] : here you go; sudo chown -R /var/www www-data:www-data; chmod -R go+rw /var/www
[18:39] <hayer> ops, drwxrwxrwx 32 www-data www-data 4096 2010-02-13 19:08 /var/www
[18:39] <wozza> i've been down that road all the way to suns translucent filesystem
[18:39] <candy> wozza, can u send me again personally??
[18:39] <almark> some things are rediculiusly hard to explain in the linux world lol
[18:39] <wozza> it doesn't work -
[18:39] <alienkid10> at this rate I might as well make my own LiveCD with Blender depends installed
[18:39] <almark> alienkid_ let me have a look for a sec on this site
[18:39] <almark> nod
[18:39] <almark> lol
[18:39] <zcat[1]> hayer:  and also ls -l /var/www/index.php
[18:39] <zcat[1]> also stop PMing me please
[18:40] <lupescu> yo
[18:40] <almark> alienkid10 its a cool idea what you want to do though
[18:40] <lupescu> i seem to have a problem with ssh connection
[18:40] <candy> wozza, isnt there any software which we can get from software center??
[18:40] <alienkid10> almark: I gathered that. And when your doing something no more then 14 or so people want to do everyone tells you to do it the "normal" way even if you can't
[18:40] <lupescu> i can't connect without a password
[18:40] <lupescu> event though
[18:40] <lupescu> i did all the necessary things
[18:40] <wozza> maybe ~ search for it in synaptic package manager
[18:40] <hayer> zcat[1] : hayer@hayer-desktop:~$ ls -ld /var/www/bb/index.php
[18:40] <hayer> ls: cannot access /var/www/bb/index.php: Permission denied
[18:40] <FloodBot2> hayer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <alienkid10> almark: yes to bad the guide is outdated? Or the system changed?
[18:41] <almark> alienkid10 I don't believe that, with linux you can the same things unoffical ;)
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> hayer, ls -ld /var/www/bb
[18:41] <andy123> hi
[18:41] <alienkid10> almark: happend the last 5 times I came in here with this same problem
[18:41] <hayer> ZykoticK9 : drwxrw-rw- 6 www-data www-data 4096 2010-02-13 19:08 /var/www/bb/
[18:41] <alienkid10> 3 times yesterday twice now today
[18:42] <andy123> anyone know how to install mysql in ubuntu??
[18:42] <almark> alienkid10 allow me to read it, I'm going to look it over for a few minutes, your loss here will become my gain and then my gain will be yours too lol ;)
[18:42] <alienkid10> almark: LOL! OH I have an idea
[18:42] <almark> alienkid10 yes?
[18:42] <wozza> the os needs a writable file system - lsof
[18:42] <ZykoticK9> hayden, you need to add execute to that dir -- seeing as your www is pretty much wide open now -- cd /var/www && sudo chmod ugo+rwx bb
[18:42] <alienkid10> almark: what if I add "rw persistent"?
[18:43] <almark> alienkid10 I don't know that is why i'm going to read it ;)
[18:43] <alienkid10> that might work
[18:43] <jacky> guys, what are those necessary applications you guys would recommend for new ubuntu/
[18:43] <alienkid10> almark: mind if I reboot and try? Might take me a bit
[18:43] <sosna> elo
[18:43] <hayer> ZykoticK9 : Thanks! But I still can't see the files in the file browser(I can only access them using the terminal)
[18:43] <sosna> cipa cipa cipa
[18:44] <almark> alienkid10 sure I"ll be here
[18:44] <alienkid10> k
[18:44] <almark> alienkid10 oh and I"m talking to you on a live cd lol
[18:44] <sosna> fuck all
[18:44] <alienkid10> lol
[18:44] <sosna> sa POLACY??
[18:44] <ZykoticK9> hayer, try again with the File Browser
[18:44] <jennings> I'm debating putting windows back on my pc because lojack isn't supported :(
[18:45] <sosna> jak nie ma to chuj
[18:45] <sosna> narqoza!!
[18:45] <sosna> :)
[18:45] <ianuff> @sosna nie szalej
[18:45] <sosna> oooo
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> jennings, if lojack is the most important feature on your PC - i think you'll need windows
[18:45] <ianuff> ooo
[18:45] <wozza> alienkid10 almark -  the os needs a writable file system - lsof
[18:45] <hayer> ZykoticK9 : WTF? Now their there.. Can you explain me what just happend? So I actually learn something from it.
[18:45] <sosna> jest polak:)
[18:45] <ianuff> :D
[18:45] <wozza> jennings hahahahah lol
[18:45] <guntbert> !pl | sosna
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> hayer, in regard to the execute on the directory, or in regard to the file manager?
[18:46] <almark> alienkid10 how do you allow that, I'm filing my brain here with the info but I have no clue otherwise lol
[18:46] <almark> sorry
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> hayer, and don't use w-t-f in this channel please
[18:46] <almark> wozza that was directed to you
[18:46] <wozza> jennings http://www.helium.com/items/353689-how-to-set-up-a-lojack-for-your-linux-computer
[18:46] <hayer> Zykotick9 : Why the suddenly just pop'd up after rs'ing the file manager..
[18:46] <jennings> it's really hard for me, I actually had a laptop stolen and recovered from lojack last semester, I bought another one
[18:47] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, i was away for a while, did the ubuntu install go ok for the guy you were helping ?(I forgot his nick)
[18:47] <zilkomaa> Has someone solution for tearing video playback with vlc media player ? Havent found nothing helpful in google.
[18:47] <almark> wozza Live CD persistence is a feature of the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS "Dapper Drake" release. is that only that live cd?
[18:47] <jennings> wozza: you've, thank you very very much
[18:47] <ZykoticK9> hayer, i'm guessing when you changed the permission File Manager was probably open and knew it couldn't get into that directory, closing and reopening it meant it had a second look - and now it could get in :)
[18:47] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  yeah I think it went well,  don't know if his wireless worked though
[18:47] <josh0x0> Is there a nice tool to easily switch desktop environments (e.g., Gnome -> KDE)?
[18:47] <wozza> almark - maybe they ditched persistence because it doesn't work
[18:47] <dremits> hi I just tried running a script (the jolicloud usb creator) and i'm getting the following error: "ImportError: libQtCore.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Can any one suggest what I should do?
[18:48] <hayer> Zykotick9 : Oh, get it ^^,  Thanks for the help :)
[18:48] <dremits> I can post full terminal output at pastebin if need be
[18:48] <ZykoticK9> josh0x0, GDM when you login has a session selection to switch between your installed WM/DEs
[18:48] <almark> nod
[18:48] <Eras3r> hello
[18:48] <lupescu> ssh problem can anyone help me ?
[18:48] <Eras3r> i need a ubuntu specialist
[18:48] <Eras3r> :)
[18:48] <Eras3r> who can help me?
[18:48] <wozza> almark seriously if you want to take your os with you and customize it install it onto a usb hdd and create a boot cdrom for old computers with grub
[18:48] <sexcopter> hi, can anyone tell me how come when i start rtorrent it doesn't resume torrents that were loaded when it last closed down?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yeah I should have mentioned network manager wifi is kinda flaky ...i had to install wicd after 24 hrs , because NM would not connect no matter what i tried.
[18:49] <josh0x0> ZykoticK9: right okay.  um but when I swap to Ubuntu I'll still have all of the KDE apps available there right?  seems when I tried kbuntu-desktop before my gnome envirnoment just got fubar'd with KDE stuff
[18:49] <ZykoticK9> !ask | lupescu Eras3r
[18:50] <almark> wozza <alienkid10> wants to do that but all I want to do is figure out why I can't install this live cd to my hard drive its a mess
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> josh0x0, ya installed apps should be available in any WM/DE - but there MAY not be shortcuts in the menus ;)  but you can always run stuff from terminal and create menu shortcuts
[18:50] <onaogh> Eras3r, i am not specialist, but can u tell me what problem you have ?
[18:50] <prodigel> ikonia, I got a hint about my error. It seems that imagettfbbox searches for the file in a predefined font path that is set in GD. Any idea where that path leads in ubuntu 9.10?
[18:50] <wozza> almark are you dual booting - i mean are you trying to install onto a disk that already has an os on it?
[18:51] <lupescu> ssh problem : i have used ssh-keygen to generate a public and private key, i moved the key to the client with ssh-copy-id, i checked the permissions on files 700 for .ssh and 600 for authorized_keys and other files in .ssh, i configured /ssh/ssh_configure but i still cannot connect without a password using ssh
[18:51] <dremits> hi I just tried running a script (the jolicloud usb creator) and i'm getting the following error: "ImportError: libQtCore.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Can any one suggest what I should do?
[18:51] <almark> wozza yes I have 2 linux distos here and I have the partition ready
[18:51] <josh0x0> ZykoticK9: ok ty.  Anyone know what version of kde is in kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[18:51] <almark> wozza what happening is this Ubuntu live cd is mounted to /dev/sda6 which is my Debian part
[18:51] <ZykoticK9> dremits, try installing libqtcore4 and try again
[18:51] <jgblanco> hi
[18:52] <michal_> is there a way to set scroll lock with mouse?
[18:52] <Hatsjoe`> Some1 who can help me with a PHP problem?
[18:52] <dremits> ZykoticK9: Ok let me try.
[18:52] <lupescu> how can i find out where does ssh fail even if all the keys are right and permisions are set correctly ?
[18:52] <llutz> lupescu: ssh -vvv
[18:52] <wozza> lupescu, check your sshd options in /etc/ssh/sshd_config - it maybe disabled ; also ssh -v -v to see what the client is getting
[18:52] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj I mentioned wireless, but he could only be on the Internet on one of his computers at a time
[18:53] <almark> wozza the install in the cd says this error.. migration-assistant needs to mount a partition, but cannot do so because the following mount point could not be  unmounted /dev/sda6
[18:53] <prodigel> ikonia, never mind, solved with the help of './'
[18:53] <dremits> hey guys in irc whats the keyboard shortcut to brining up username with a colon?
[18:53] <wozza> almark msg me your mount
[18:53] <almark> wozza This live cd is from Ubuntu 9.10
[18:53] <ZykoticK9> !tab > dremits
[18:53] <almark> nod
[18:53] <seanbrystone> how would i disable needing password for Synaptic? I dont want to disable passwords totally though, im the only one with access to this machine, so i dont need to constantly put in pass for Synaptic
[18:53] <almark> wozza do you want just that device?
[18:54] <wozza> almark all mount output would be more interesting
[18:54] <ionut> can anyone tell me how can i split my partition (this one i am using now) in 2 ?
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> seanbrystone, it's not a good idea...
[18:54] <almark> wozza ok ;)
[18:54] <almark> what is the ubuntu paste site name again
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> !paste > almark
[18:54] <wozza> pastebin
[18:54] <Hatsjoe`> Is there some1 here who can help me with a PHP problem? Or do you know the proper channel to ask my question?
[18:54] <syn-ack> seanbrystone: You can't, really
[18:54] <almark> thanks :)
[18:55] <guntbert> seanbrystone: the idea behind that is that you are always reminded "now I'm going to do system maintainance"
[18:55] <syn-ack> seanbrystone: I'm sure you could try hacking around with pam but I wouldnt advise it
[18:55] <wozza> ionut you can't just split a partition - only shrink and add a new one
[18:55] <rob_p> seanbrystone: I can't imagine using synaptic enough to warrant what you want to do.
[18:55] <almark> wozza I have just a xterm running this live cd does not have term from gnome, i'm going to have to screenshot this, can you do with a pic bucket?
[18:55]  * Guest_67767  Hatsjoe` my tooth is hurting you know the proper channel to ask for advice about this?
[18:56] <wozza> almark sure
[18:56] <seanbrystone> i install A LOT of software daily, big hard drive :D
[18:56] <Hatsjoe`> Guest_67767 stfu
[18:56] <sysdoc> lol
[18:56] <Hatsjoe`> If you cant help me, just say nothing
[18:56] <lupescu> everything seems ok in sshd_config
[18:57] <Myrtti> Hatsjoe`: mind your language, that was uncalled for
[18:57] <ZykoticK9> Hatsjoe`, I didn't like Guest_67767 post either but don't use stfu in this channel, especially not directed at people
[18:57] <lupescu> what exactly should i be looking for ? the settings are the ownes from ssh_config but "applied"
[18:57] <dremits> hey guys in irc whats the keyboard shortcut to brining up username with a colon?
[18:57] <almark> wozza photobucket, what do you use?
[18:57] <syn-ack> Hatsjoe`: he's got a point though, this is not the channel to be asking that sort of question and personallu I'd imagine that the channel name would be pretty obvious
[18:57] <Myrtti> dremits: tabulator
[18:57] <ubuntu_15> almark: hello from the LiveCD
[18:57] <Hatsjoe`> when I join #php I get redirected to the overflow channel
[18:58] <og01> dremits: depends on client
[18:58] <og01> dremits: but tab
[18:58] <wozza> almark ftp or http usually
[18:58] <hilake> hi
[18:58] <syn-ack> Hatsjoe`: Ok, so what? ask in there.
[18:58] <alienkid10> almark: still not sure if it's saving
[18:58] <syn-ack> That's why there is an overflow channel, afterall
[18:58] <jacky> hey guys, how can i close gnome do about me?
[18:58] <clint0n> Hatsjoe` perhaps try the #php channel?
[18:58] <dremits> og01: xchat
[18:58] <jacky> i click on gnome's about and i'm unable to close it.
[18:58] <ironfoot495> where can I find help in OOP scripts
[18:58] <ironfoot495> ?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Guest_67767, it could be called the dentist chat...ever consider that?
[18:58] <Guest_67767>   Hatsjoe` what problem you have?? you may pvt
[18:58] <og01> Hatsjoe`: more than likely you need to register with nickserv
[18:58] <alienkid10> what dirs should I make in casper-rw?
[18:58] <almark> ubuntu_15 worked?
[18:58] <dremits> og01: tab just loses focus of the text field
[18:58] <Guest_67767>   lol BluesKaj
[18:59] <Guest_67767>   I bet
[18:59] <og01> dremits: i dont use xchat - try irssi
[18:59] <seanbrystone> jacky open a terminal and type xkill and click on that about me window
[18:59] <og01> dremits: and read about screen
[18:59] <wozza> anyway almark cdroms are generally /dev/cdrom or /dev/sg0 and should be mounted at /cdrom /mnt/cdrom or /media/cdrom
[18:59] <almark> alienkid10_ I will try photobucket lol I forgot the names
[18:59] <og01> dremits: screen + irssi == win
[18:59] <lupescu> what other things might make ssh ask for a password if the keys are ok, permissions good, and aparently setting file ok ?
[18:59] <alienkid10> almark: ok
[18:59] <almark> wozza this one however is mounting itself to my harddrive auto
[18:59] <wozza> almark, so it looks strange that it's mounted at /dev/sda6
[18:59] <dremits> og01: i'm sure it was tab in xchat
[18:59] <jacky> seanbrystone: wow, works wonder! another term to memorise! haha
[18:59] <aukerman> so i'm having a problem starting my music players, anyone able to help?
[18:59] <jrib> lupescu: most likely, one of those things is not true
[18:59] <alienkid10> light on stick is pulsing
[18:59] <wozza> can you mount | grep sda
[19:00] <seanbrystone> jacky, yep its crude, but works :)
[19:00] <almark> wozza indeed, is there a way to make it not mount at boot
[19:00] <wozza> and send it on here
[19:00] <fidz> aukerman, please describe the problem
[19:00] <almark> oh duh
[19:00] <lupescu> jrib : how can i limit those 3 ?
[19:00] <aukerman> they say starting up, but then nothing
[19:00] <almark> wozza what is that switch mount | grep sda > log?
[19:00] <wozza> almark no it will mount and boot unfortunately
[19:00] <jrib> lupescu: try adding some -v when you connect and check sshd's log
[19:01] <piero> When 10.04 beta will be released?
[19:01]  * Hamlin is now away: Detatched, leave a message.
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> piero, Beta 1 in 33 days
[19:01] <jrib> !away > Hamlin
[19:01] <Alacard> any thoughts on using Ubuntu Netbook Remix's interface on a desktop?  I cannot get it to scale properly :(
[19:01] <piero> thanks ZykoticK9
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> piero, Alpha3 in 12 days :)
[19:01] <alienkid10> almark: find the pic yet?
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> piero, 75 days till final
[19:02] <lupescu> jdir : "Host '192.168.1.100' is known and matches the RSA host key.
[19:02] <lupescu> "
[19:02] <piero> ZykoticK9, and how is alpha3? Is it polite?
[19:02] <ionut> wozza: how can i shrink it using gparted?
[19:02] <lupescu> jdir : 'debug1: Authentications that can continue: password,publickey
[19:02] <lupescu> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
[19:02] <lupescu> debug1: Offering public key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa
[19:02] <lupescu> debug1: Authentications that can continue: password,publickey
[19:02] <lupescu> debug1: Offering public key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa
[19:02] <FloodBot2> lupescu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <lupescu> debug1: Authentications that can continue: password,publickey
[19:02] <almark> alienkid10 sorry man that was meant to be directed to wozza I have no pic
[19:03] <alienkid10> oh sorry
[19:03] <almark> alienkid10 lol slip of the hand did you get it working
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> piero, you can ask me in #ubuntu+1, but not in this channel (channel rules)
[19:03] <alienkid10> almark: do you have a /rofs folder when you boot your LivCD?
[19:03] <almark> wozza all I have listed is /dev/sda6 on /live/image type ext3 (rw) and that wrong
[19:03] <jrib> lupescu: erm, /root?
[19:03] <almark> alienkid10 let me check
[19:04] <alienkid10> almark: not sure yet going to reboot as soon as I find out if you do
[19:04] <psilokan> So I have two remote PCs set up to accept a passwordless RSA key, one works and the other always prompts for hte password.  I checked the permissions on the files, copied over the config file from the working one... Anything else I should check?
[19:04] <wozza> almark - I get it - you have booted into live - and it has automatically mounted all your other file systems on the hdd.(maybe) go to system - partition editor and right click on each drive and unmount
[19:04] <almark> alienkid10 that site you gave me about your problem says only a few live cds allow you to do what you want
[19:04] <lupescu> jrib : what about it ? ... i tried with a normal account firstly... is there a problem now because im root ?
[19:04] <aukermanfan> fidz i reset my computer, and it's working now
[19:05] <Guest35686> hey guys, i got a problem, ubuntu was working fine this morning but then when i start it up the screen goes blank after booting
[19:05] <almark> wozza which part editor, what program I mean just mount? I tried mount -f and stuff
[19:05] <alienkid10> almark: where did it say that?
[19:05] <wozza> almark you probably can't umount /dev/sda
[19:05] <muri_one> does ubuntu as a server offer anything special over debian? especially if I were to use the LTS release?
[19:05] <dremits> ZykoticK9: thanks by the way that worked. Now its complaining about libgt gui so i'll install that too. thanks. feel dumb!
[19:05] <wozza> almark are you in the live system?
[19:05] <jrib> lupescu: troubleshoot using a non-root account, yes.  I'll be back later
[19:05] <Guest_67767>   good service that ubuntu paste :)
[19:06] <jrib> muri_one: security releases guaranteed by canonical
[19:06] <almark> alienkid10 #
[19:06] <almark> 8.04 "Hardy Heron" - Doesn't work
[19:06] <almark> # 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" - Works on official release
[19:06] <almark> # 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" Tribe 1 release - Doesn't work (more information below)
[19:06] <almark> #
[19:06] <FloodBot2> almark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <almark> 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" Doesn't work
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> dremits, glad it's working!
[19:06] <almark> oops
[19:06] <almark> alienkid10 did you get my flood, I didn't know it was going to do that
[19:06] <alienkid10> almark: ok. Do you have the same /rofs folder as me?
[19:06] <ionut> wozza: how can i shrink a partition using gparted ?
[19:07] <alienkid10> yes
[19:07] <conb123> Are there any ubuntu applications for monitoring cpu temperature other than lm-sensors and ksensors because neither of them worked for my gigabyte p55m-ud2?
[19:07] <almark> alienkid10 no its not there but I'm not trying to do what your doing
[19:07] <alienkid10> ok
[19:07] <alienkid10> that might explain it then!
[19:07] <Guest35686> how can i access ubuntu partion from Windows 7  ???
[19:07] <almark> wozza_ yes I'm in the live system I"m a Ubuntu live cd
[19:07] <Guest_67767>   anybody in here installed ubuntu on Acer Aspire machine?????
[19:07] <almark> wozza_ this is odd
[19:07] <Guest_67767>   tried to
[19:07] <Guest_67767>   woteva
[19:08] <psilokan> guest35686 - not if its formatted w/ EXT
[19:08] <almark> wozza_ brb k :)
[19:08] <alienkid10> rofs might be where it's writing to but it's might not be mounting the casper-re image there
[19:08] <almark> alienkid10 I have to be away for a few mins :)
[19:08] <alienkid10> ok
[19:08] <llutz> almark: pastebin output of "sudo fdisk -l" "mount" "cat /proc/cmdline" at paste.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <alienkid10> rebooting
[19:08] <Guest_67767>   psilokan  what you mean
[19:08] <Guest_67767>   will it work or NOT
[19:08] <psilokan> unless you formatted it as NTFS or FAT then WIndows will not see it
[19:08] <wozza> almark maybe you want to install it to sdb - your internal hdd
[19:09] <Guest_67767>   if install it as the main OS will it work
[19:09] <Guest_67767>   installed*
[19:09] <psilokan> most likely not
[19:09] <Guest35686> psilokan: but i used to be able to access it in vista
[19:09] <psilokan> not without third party sfotware
[19:10] <Guest35686> psilokan: i can't figure out how to with win7
[19:10] <almark> llutz that didn't work I don't have paste i'm afraid on my xtrem
[19:10] <wozza> Guest35686 - get the extfs drivers from the Microsoft website - lol - sorry - just kidding
[19:10] <Guest_67767>   you guys know the machine im talking about right??
[19:10] <Guest35686> lol wozza
[19:10] <wozza> almark - middle click
[19:10] <llutz> almark: you are on live-cd, you are online, why won't it work?
[19:10]  * almark slaps head
[19:10] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[19:11] <almark> llutz it will I got it :)
[19:11] <Guest_67767>   lol wozza im not as silly as it seems :)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> !extfs
[19:11] <mkanyicy> Guest35686, psilokan, if ubuntu is formatted with ext2/3 then you could install ext2ifs in windows to access it. if it is formatted with ext4 you cannot access it at all
[19:11] <llutz> almark: you refuse to give relevant information since hours. nobody can help you without
[19:11] <ionut> !gparted
[19:11] <wozza> Guest_67767, there are tools for accessing ext2 & ext3 filesystems
[19:11] <Guest35686> mkanyicy: ahh let me give that a try again
[19:11] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, you can use "/msg ubottu !foo" and it won't show up in the channel
[19:12] <almark> llutz I forgot how to stream a file into a log file, how is it again, use the > after the command?
[19:12] <llutz> almark: yes
[19:12] <Younder> Why isn't ext4 the default fle system (if no other file system already exists)?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> mkanyicy, my partiton is ext4 and i can access my windows partition
[19:12] <wozza> Guest_67767,  one is an explorer - one is a filesystem driver that only works on 2000 & XP systems
[19:12] <user__> hi, i have some dislay drivers i want to install in linux , can someone guide me how to ?
[19:12] <true\false> Hey so I used to use Your-freedom on Windows to tunnel and encrypt my internet usage (Being on a monitored network), is there anything similar for Ubuntu? ( http://your-freedom.net )
[19:13] <mkanyicy> BluesKaj, we are talking about accessing ext4 FROM windows
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> Younder, i believe ext4 IS the default for fresh installs (not upgrades)
[19:13] <mkanyicy> Younder, ZykoticK9 is right
[19:14] <BluesKaj> mkanyicy, oh, too access it's in the sentence , should have known :)
[19:14] <wozza> Guest_67767, best way is to initialize a - shared ntfs partition which both can see - eventually when you don't use Microsoft anymore you can just delete that partition and reformat it with something decent ;)
[19:14] <Bob_733>   :)
[19:14] <BluesKaj> too many
[19:14] <Younder> user__, The easiest is to go to manu System>Administration>harwaredrivers
[19:14] <minitex> hi i know this may be boring and dumb question but could anyone help me on HD 4770 ati drivers and karmic koala
[19:14] <hilake> mmmmmm ipad
[19:14] <sirMajid> hi, I want to install skype by .deb package and it tells me dependency not satisfied: libasound2. while it is installed already. does anybody know what's going on
[19:15] <Younder> user__, This will then just look for and optionally install propriatary drivers
[19:15] <PingFloyd> minitex: they're a bit of a pain
[19:15] <Bob_733>   friz keeps probing my ports
[19:15] <minitex> i know :(
[19:15] <PingFloyd> minitex: there's a few options though
[19:15] <minitex> im trying to do it for couple of days :S
[19:15] <minitex> pm ?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> mkanyicy, if there's a new app to access ext4 from windows , it would be nice to know about it.
[19:15] <almark> llutz http://paste.ubuntu.com/375669/
[19:16] <alienkid10> almark: nothing
[19:16] <alienkid10> recreated the whole dir sturute in casper-rw and no dice
[19:16] <Bob_733>   wozza ubuntu would just hang during all 4 attempts
[19:16] <minitex> PingFloyd pm ?
[19:16] <llutz> almark: whatever you boot, that's not hte ubuntu live-cd, is it?
[19:16] <PingFloyd> minitex: there's the xorg open source drivers, kdm, or fglrx
[19:16] <Bob_733>   on Dell 266 , dim300 & acer one
[19:17] <PingFloyd> minitex: no pms please
[19:17] <minitex> k
[19:17] <Bob_733>   dimension3000*
[19:17] <wozza> sirMajid maybe it's a version problem, run apt-get update ; apt-get install libasound2 - to upgrade it ; then dpkg -i
[19:17] <PingFloyd> minitex: which ones are you wanting to use?
[19:17] <minitex> PingFloyd fglrx
[19:18] <PingFloyd> minitex: easiest way to get those working is from the menu
[19:18] <Catox> ciao a tutti
[19:18] <macman_> there a way to rename an iso .. i have an iso that i want to rip to a dvd but the lable shows it as DVD_Movie .. i want to rename that to the actiually name of the movie
[19:18] <guntbert> !it | Catox
[19:19] <sirMajid> wozza, what is dpkg?
[19:19] <minitex> PingFloyd cant cuz it doesnt recognize hd 4770 as any particular hardware
[19:19] <PingFloyd> minitex: I'm not in ubuntu right now, but it's Administration>hardware device
[19:19] <alienkid10> almark: my thread on this subject http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1405435 go ahead an monitor it since we will probably never talk to eachother again
[19:19] <Eras3r> a specialist ???
[19:19] <PingFloyd> minitex: I see
[19:19] <minitex> PingFloyd i know, i run it and theres nothing there
[19:19] <Eras3r> please
[19:19] <Catox> ubottu grazie a te! ilmio inglese è scarso
[19:19] <wozza> Bob_733 yeah? does it freeze when it gets to video? - install it in safe mode -  what is the mainboard model
[19:19] <sirMajid> wozza, is apt-get update the same as reload in synaptic?
[19:20] <teage> is there a way to fix nautilus?
[19:20] <wozza> sirMajid, dpkg is how you install .deb files in debian based systems
[19:20] <mac9416> Eras3r, there are many specialists here. If you ask a question, perhaps someone will know the answer.
[19:20] <cryptk> so i am trying to add USB keyboard support into grub2, I have some directions here http://grub.enbug.org/USBSupport?highlight=%28USB%29
[19:20] <cryptk> I just need to know how to get to that grub prompt
[19:20] <wozza> sirMajid, if you are using the gui then make sure you upgrade first
[19:20] <Eras3r> can we talk in prv?
[19:20] <teage> i cant open my file system, says there is no program registered for it.
[19:20] <Bob_733>   wozza i spent 2 weeks trying everything
[19:20] <Bob_733>   lol
[19:20] <sirMajid> wozza, how should I upgrade?
[19:20] <mac9416> Eras3r, sorry, no. Please, just ask the question and see if someone knows the answer.
[19:20] <user__> can someone help me with installing new display drivers ??
[19:20] <meepmoop> I don't know if this would necessarily be the appropriate channel but I need some help installing thc-hydra
[19:21] <wozza> sirMajid, you use the synaptic package manager - under system administration
[19:21] <jibadeeha> anyone here tried openoffice 3.2 on ubuntu - is it noticeably faster than 3.1?
[19:21] <guntbert> meepmoop: what is your OS?
[19:21] <alienkid10> bye all
[19:21] <Bob_733>   i got it installed on the dell 3000 machine but the sound didnt work in flash
[19:21] <meepmoop> @guntbert karmic
[19:22] <wozza> Bob_733 - use pulse audio
[19:22] <Eras3r> SO... i want to install ubuntu 9.10 from a stik with 9.10 live on a HDD external.
[19:22] <jacky> what are the recommended applications to install?
[19:22] <beaverxfever> then do it! wozza
[19:22] <Eras3r> in instalation process i have thist warind and error
[19:23] <Eras3r> Device /dev/sdc has a logical sector size of 1024. Not all parts of GNU Parted support this at the moment, and the working code is HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL.
[19:23] <guntbert> meepmoop: just looked it up - we do *not* support things like breaking into accounts here
[19:23] <Eras3r> i just press ok and then the installer sais " starting up the partitioner" and remain at 47%
[19:23] <Bob_733>   ye that worked on files on the hard disk but not in websites
[19:24] <almark> llutz when I boot the computer will go into Debian on my drive, but right now i'm running off a live cd
[19:24] <wozza> cryptk you get into the grub console when you boot
[19:24] <meepmoop> @guntbert it's testing of my own network not breaking into anything I don't rightfully possess its merely for educational purposes I've been reading all the different posts in the ubuntuforums and I still can't quite get the install to work
[19:24] <Eras3r> can anybody help
[19:24] <wozza> do what  beaverxfever
[19:24] <llutz> almark: yes, using "persistent" as option which causes the mount. edit boot-options to stop
[19:24] <almark> llutz_ at this moment its only the live cd
[19:24] <cryptk> wozza, thanks!
[19:24] <mac9416> Eras3r, so you got an error during installation?
[19:24] <cryptk> I had actually just found that
[19:24] <Eras3r> yes mac
[19:24] <user__> can anyone help me with installing new drivers ???
[19:24] <llutz> almark: what live-cd are you using?
[19:25] <Eras3r> can we talk in prv?
[19:25] <almark> llutz_ its not entirly official but its Pure:dyne with Ubuntu 9.10 on it
[19:25] <mac9416> Eras3r, no, we can talk in public.
[19:25] <almark> llutz_ DVD
[19:25] <wozza> cryptk but you can also just add in grub.conf
[19:25] <almark> alienkid10 did you get it working?
[19:26] <mac9416> Eras3r, perhaps the best way to deal with this would be to gather as much info surrounding the error and report a bug on launchpad.net or post about it on ubuntuforums.org.
[19:26] <llutz> almark: ask authors how to boot "non-persistent"
[19:26] <Eras3r> ok
[19:26] <Eras3r> thx man
[19:26] <mac9416> Eras3r, np, good luck.
[19:26] <true\false> For vpn, how do you find your connection type?
[19:26] <almark> llutz They don't have a IRC channel working lol weird I will look for a forum
[19:26] <guntbert> meepmoop: my personal reservations remain - sorry
[19:26] <cryptk> wozza, where is grub.conf?
[19:27] <almark> llutz ok will do but I have to go somene for a bit I'll be back thanks :)
[19:27] <wozza> cryptk, /boot/grub/
[19:27] <wozza> cryptk, but be careful in there
[19:27] <wozza> make a new menu entry so you can always get back into your system
[19:28] <cryptk> I know about being careful, I am just not used to grub2, I am ver familiar with legacy grub however
[19:29] <cryptk> wozza,  there is no grub.conf in there
[19:29] <wozza> cryptk, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:29] <Gary20> Will this work? I'm building a PC for 2 users. They're going to be logged into the same computer to play latest mmorpgs. I plan to buy quad9400 and geforce 9800gtx (maybe 2 graphic card is better?). This would likely be on ubuntu so I'm not sure how far the support would go for these hardware.
[19:29] <meepmoop> guntbert: no, I understand completely I'll try and find another channel as this technically isn't directly ubuntu supported software but just realize it's for education not for always doing misdeeds I'm just interested in the security of the things I work with
[19:30] <user__> how to run a file as root ?? can someone help
[19:30] <PingFloyd> minitex: did you go through this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:30] <ZykoticK9> !sudo > user__
[19:30] <blakkheim> user__: sudo commandhere
[19:30] <GArReT> Guys, where can i download the correct versions of this packages? "apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server"
[19:30] <wozza> Gary20 nvidia has awesome linux driver support but check there first about your specific model
[19:30] <llutz> GArReT: sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[19:31] <minitex> PingFloyd nope, i will check that right away :) thnx m8
[19:31] <minitex> hope it works :)
[19:31] <guntbert> meepmoop: I see - did you try ##security ?
[19:32] <timmarshall_> my ubuntu is having trouble booting up my mind what should it do?
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> Gary, verify that the mmorpgs you want to play work in linux at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&iId=&sAction=view&sTitle=Browse+Applications if you're talking WoW - just an FYI, the graphics aren't as good on linux as they are on MS
[19:32] <PingFloyd> minitex: I'm trying to refind this other site for you
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> Gary20, see above
[19:32] <minitex> PingFloyd i appreciate it m8 thnx :)
[19:33] <meepmoop> guntbert: no, I haven't really researched any other irc channels I mainly stay in here and just answer questions if I ever can but that's totally a suggestion I would be looking for if there are any type of irc channels related to the topic
[19:34] <bustinator> i gots a question
[19:34] <Darael> !ask | bustinator
[19:35] <bustinator> if I was sshed into a server and was viewing wget. then i get disconnected. then i reconnect. how do i bring wget back to the console to view the progress?
[19:36] <bustinator> i did not send it to background so it was not listed on jobs
[19:36] <blakkheim> bustinator: screen
[19:36] <stells> форррууум заработааал! спасибо!=))
[19:36] <blakkheim> !ru | stells
[19:37] <user__> can someone help with installing drivers ??
[19:37] <bustinator> so i just run the command screen?
[19:37] <blakkheim> user__: what drivers
[19:37] <blakkheim> bustinator: no
[19:37] <minitex> PingFloyd u see the first step is to system->administration->hardware drivers, but in my case there is nothing there :S
[19:37] <user__> display drivers
[19:37] <GArReT> llutz, it keeps telling me that it doesnt find ANY of those packages!?
[19:37] <bustinator> im a bit confused by that blakkkheim
[19:38] <blakkheim> bustinator: sudo aptitude install screen; man screen
[19:38] <llutz> GArReT: check your apt sources.list then
[19:38] <bustinator> ok
[19:38] <sirMajid> hi, how can I set proxy settings in ubuntu. is there a main setting?
[19:38] <llutz> !info php5-mysql
[19:39] <GArReT> brb
[19:39] <Darael> sirMajid: system->preferences->network proxy
[19:39] <muad1> anyone knows and good way too make echo "pass" | ssh host ?
[19:39] <Guest35686> is there a way to fix ubuntu without deleting my personal files in that partition? i can't access the partition nor can i boot ubuntu.
[19:39] <rob_p> bustinator: Screen will help you for future sessions but it won't do anything for your current situation if you didn't start the wget process in a screen to begin with.
[19:39] <sirMajid> Darael, tnx
[19:39] <PingFloyd> minitex: here's another helpful link in case you opt to use the kms driver instead
[19:39] <Gary20> ZykoticK9: alright. so this would possibly work but I've never had 2 user profiles for a computer before and what more, I'm trying to get both to play world of warcraft, aion, or starcraft2 beta at the same time thru their own profile on same pc.
[19:39] <guntbert> bustinator: that won't get your actual wget back though - that one probably  died when you were disconnected
[19:39] <PingFloyd> minitex: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/X/KernelModeSetting
[19:39] <B3rz3rk3r> Guest35686, boot into a livecd and rescue them from there
[19:39] <minitex> PingFloyd ty m8 :)
[19:40] <zleap> B3rz3rk3r, beat me to the same suggestion :)
[19:40] <bustinator> thanks for the help
[19:40] <B3rz3rk3r> zleap, :)
[19:40] <bustinator> wget is still downloading as i took a look
[19:40] <Guest35686> oki doo
[19:40] <ZykoticK9> Gary20, how could 2 users use the same computer at the same time?
[19:40] <Darael> Guest35686: Installing over the top ought to preserve your home folder, just make sure you use the same username and password.  And don't format it!
[19:40] <bustinator> it was just a 40gB file so i just wanted to check on it
[19:40] <muad1> mariusk: heisann :)
[19:40] <B3rz3rk3r> Guest35686, remember.. ALWAYS backup ;)
[19:40] <bustinator> well 40GB directory. so i can just look at the files to kidna determine where it was at. screen looks pretty nice. thanks for the tips guys
[19:41] <user__> " Run the "install.sh" script as 'root ", how ??
[19:42] <Darael> ZykoticK9: Multi-head setup?
[19:42] <bustinator> sudo ./install.sh
[19:42] <Darael> user__: What are you trying do do?  There may be a better way.
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> Darael, it's beyond Multi-head, you'd need dual keyboard/mouse as well -- best of luck man I'm not sure it's going to work, but it's quite a project
[19:44] <guntbert> muad1: won't work, you can setup ssh keys though and look at ssh-add then
[19:44] <GArReT> any ops here.... andi_07 is a spam bot!?
[19:45] <cryptk|wirc> mozz
[19:45] <Hexxeh> Hi
[19:45] <Hexxeh> Is it appropriate to ask questions about Wubi here or is there another channel for that?
[19:45] <arand> How can I stop pulseaudio from auto-respawning after a while when killed?
[19:45] <cryptk|wirc> hrm... who was I just talking to about grub 2?
[19:46] <muad1> guntbert: have tryed that the server dosent allow it off some reason i dont know
[19:46] <ScoobyDoo1> Is it possible to permanently change the icon of a gambas made executable?
[19:46] <cryptk|wirc> I am trying to add some modules to grub2, when I issue 'insmod usb_keyboard' at the grub command line my system just reboots...
[19:46] <amygirl> cryptk|wirc: maybe that was me.  I'm still trying to figure out how this all works.
[19:47] <cryptk|wirc> no it was someone named wozza I think
[19:47] <guntbert> muad1: what did you try?
[19:47] <amygirl> OK.
[19:48] <GArReT> sorry, i'm going to ask the same question again.... i dont seem to get the correct packages anywhere for this "apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server"
[19:48] <cryptk|wirc> wozza: insmod usb_keyboard at grub command line just causes a reboot...
[19:48] <GArReT> Where can i find thease packages
[19:48] <llutz> GArReT: check your apt sources.list then
[19:48] <muad1> guntbert: i copyed the key from the client too the server and symlinked two files :/
[19:48] <muad1> :P
[19:48] <GArReT> llutz, do i just sudo apt sources.list?
[19:48] <llutz> GArReT: you need main-repo activated
[19:48] <llutz> GArReT: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:49] <guntbert> muad1: what key - to where? and what about that symlinking?
[19:49] <Ricoshady> how can I see what network adapters are connected to the server?
[19:49] <Rawxor> so i just installed Karmic (9.10) on a little mini PC (Acer Revo) - sound seems to work fine - except for in flash movies in firefox... i've read a ton of stuff that says to remove pulseaudio, but i'd rather it work _WITH_ PulseAudio - Any ideas?
[19:49] <infid> ubuntu 9.10 doesn't seem to be reading my ~/.Xresources file. any idea why?
[19:50] <muad1> guntbert: the public rsa key
[19:50] <Rawxor> Ricoshady: ifconfig
[19:50] <Rawxor> Ricoshady: There's prolly a file in /proc for that too
[19:50] <Ricoshady> Rawxor, would it show eth0 even if it was disabled?
[19:51] <guntbert> muad1: to what file did you copy it?
[19:51] <Rawxor> Ricoshady: with the appropriate options - yes
[19:51] <Rawxor> Ricoshady: ifconfig -a (i think)
[19:51] <Rawxor> So i just installed Ubuntu Karmic (9.10) on a little mini PC (Acer Revo) - sound seems to work fine - except for in flash movies in firefox... i've read a ton of stuff that says to remove pulseaudio, but i'd rather it work _WITH_ PulseAudio - Any ideas?
[19:51] <amygirl> anybody know how to get past the black screen after installing ubuntu?
[19:52] <bsmith093> amy moreinfoe would help
[19:52] <muad1> guntbert: authorized_keys and ln -s keys2 on the server
[19:52] <manowar3> mic works with skype, but after one conversation the mic won't work in next conversations, anyone has any idea?
[19:52] <ScoobyDoo1> Is it possible to permanently change the icon of a gambas made executable?
[19:52] <Rawxor> amygirl: that's a pretty vague description of what's going on
[19:52] <amygirl> it's an older micron celeron and it hangs after the micron splash screen when it goes to load grub.
[19:53] <cryptk> wozza, you there?
[19:53] <Rawxor> amygirl: try using text installation mode?
[19:53] <amygirl> Rawxor, how do I do that?
[19:53] <timmarshall_> ive made the best custom linux ever
[19:53] <amygirl> Is it an F4 function?
[19:53] <muad1> guntbert: what i realy need is an way too connect ssh without know from where and new clients
[19:54] <bsmith093> timmarshal explain please
[19:54] <Pershian007> hi
[19:54] <muad1> hi
[19:54] <timmarshall_> with the themes ive customized my own XD
[19:54] <ScoobyDoo1> ~Wozza@shell2.webquarry.com
[19:54] <lim_> hello
[19:54] <timmarshall_> hello
[19:54] <Chinta> Hi, my first time here! How does this work? Do I wait for my turn or I just ask my question?
[19:54] <ScoobyDoo1> Oops, Is it possible to permanently change the icon of a gambas made executable?
[19:54] <bsmith093> chinta ask
[19:54] <guntbert> muad1: ah - I never needed that ...keys2 thing
[19:54] <timmarshall_> you just ask a question and hope a reply
[19:54] <Pershian007> i cant see a home partition in fstab
[19:55] <muad1> guntbert: its an freebsd openSSH
[19:55] <Pershian007> and sudo fdisk -l
[19:55] <Rawxor> So i just installed Ubuntu Karmic (9.10) on a little mini PC (Acer Revo) - sound seems to work fine - except for in flash movies in firefox... i've read a ton of stuff that says to remove pulseaudio, but i'd rather it work _WITH_ PulseAudio - Any ideas?
[19:55] <Bob_733>   just ask @ Chinta
[19:55] <Chinta> OK, thanks. For some reason, my keyboard volume control keys change only the Internal Mic channel, and I seem unable to set them to change the master.
[19:55] <guntbert> muad1: then you need to stay with passwords - but ssh won't accept one from command line (as that could be easily spotted by any other user on the system)
[19:56] <Jef91> How do I get audio from a microphone come out over my computer speakers on Ubuntu 9,10 with pulse audio?
[19:56] <histo> Rawxor: whats the problem with the flash movies?
[19:56] <muad1> guntbert: i have figured out that mutch... :) i know there is an way too make ssh accept from echo stty
[19:57]  * Chinta hopes for an asnwer
[19:57] <muad1> guntbert: stty echo sorry
[19:57] <Bagoor> I'm looking for a command which flips a text vertically
[19:57] <manowar3> mic works with skype, but after one conversation the mic won't work in next conversations, anyone has any idea?
[19:57] <Bob_733>   Jef91 have you tried pluggin the mic in yet?
[19:57] <Rawxor> histo: no sound
[19:57] <zleap> Bagoor, tac
[19:57] <muad1> Chinta: check the keyboard settings
[19:57] <bsmith093> bagoor do u mean one letter per line
[19:57] <zleap> Bagoor, or rev
[19:57] <ScoobyDoo1> Is it possible to permanently change the icon of a gambas made executable?
[19:57] <Jef91> Bob_773 I have it attached and it is getting input but I'm not sure how to make it output over my speakers
[19:58] <Bob_733>   you hearing any tone etc
[19:58] <Darael> manowar3: sounds like each conversation is locking the mic and then not exiting properly... but as to what to do about it I'm afraid I don't know.
[19:58] <guntbert> muad1: this I don't know - and I still cannot understand the purpose
[19:58] <histo> Rawxor: do you have sound elsewhere?
[19:58] <abelardo> Hi
[19:58] <Jef91> Bob_773 not over the speakers no
[19:58] <Pershian007> hopes for an asnwer
[19:58] <Rawxor> histo: yup - everywhere elese in fact
[19:58] <abelardo> Looking for help with TOR
[19:58] <Jef91> Bob_773 normal audio output works over the speakers, just not the mic
[19:58]  * ScoobyDoo1 /me
[19:58] <Bagoor> bsmith093, zleap: convert text to ?x??
[19:58] <t432> hey folks ... I am on a mission to generate a list of potential technology related business ideas for one of my college projects ... I came up with about 30, anyone here have any suggestions?
[19:59] <nytek_> abelardo: post your proble
[19:59] <Bob_733>   fiddle with the mic settings that worked for me
[19:59] <user__> can someone help with display drivers installation ?
[19:59] <histo> Rawxor: hrm... let me check something
[19:59] <nytek_> abelardo: m
[19:59] <nytek_> user__: for?
[19:59] <ScoobyDoo1> Is it possible to permanently change the icon of a gambas made executable?
[19:59] <user__> via chrome
[19:59] <abelardo> nytek I cannot browse when TOR is on
[19:59] <muad1> guntbert: too make an ssh auto connect too an server you need too create keys and that keys are needed on both the server and the client... and when you not know the client and where he connects from that will make an impossibel task
[19:59] <zleap> tac is a similar program to cat
[19:59] <zleap> as is rev you can pipe things in to tac and rev
[19:59] <Jef91> Bob_733 what settings? I don't see anything under input other than level and mute, and its un-muted
[20:00] <nytek_> abelardo: i believe you have to set up firefox to load through a proxy
[20:00] <llutz> abelardo: set your browser to use socks-procy at 9050, tor is running?
[20:00] <llutz> proxy
[20:00] <bsmith093> Bagoor do you men hex values
[20:00] <nytek_> llutz: i think its a http proxy
[20:00] <guntbert> muad1: yes, that should be impossible - I hope
[20:00] <tim__> So I had a bad hard drive (slowly corupts data) that's under warrenty, but I want to zero it before I return it to the manufactor. How can I do this?
[20:00] <nytek_> 8080 port
[20:00] <nytek_> llutz: i think
[20:00] <nytek_> abelardo: with localhost as the ip
[20:00] <llutz> nytek_: tor is a socks4/5 proxy
[20:00] <Bob_733>   Jef91 try other device etc
[20:01] <Chinta> When I check the keyboard shortcuts, I can see that for example low volume is bind to "XF86AudioLowerVolume", but I cant find anywhere where the I can set the channel it changes. This is confusing, it used to work alright.
[20:01] <histo> Rawxor: check in sound mixer to see if LFE is muted.
[20:01] <llutz> nytek_: you mean privoxy
[20:01] <bsmith093> tim get a live cd boot and format
[20:01] <MWisBest> I'm using KDE4.4 in Kubuntu and none of my GTK apps using my KDE themes.
[20:01] <Bagoor> bsmith093: no ! Try this : http://www.fliptext.org/
[20:01] <nytek_> llutz: sorry, you're probably right, but from what i remember its port 8080?
[20:01] <Rawxor> histo: using alsamixer?
[20:01] <abelardo> ok
[20:01] <nytek_> llutz: doesnt it come with it
[20:01] <nytek_> llutz: ?
[20:01] <muad1> guntbert: and therefor too make the keys i need too generate the keys an put them onto the server and that I realy dont wanna do over an unsecure ftp connection
[20:01] <Darael> tim__: alternatively, determine which device it is, then "sudo shred <device>"
[20:02] <llutz> nytek_: from torrc: SocksPort 9050 # what port to open for local application connections
[20:02] <tim__> Darael: I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[20:02] <dereks> is there a nice api for indicator yet that i can easily send a message using a cli commnd, or a python interface?
[20:02] <Rawxor> histo: nothing muted or turned down in alsamixer
[20:02] <rob_p> muad1: Do it over ssh.  It's a copy/paste thing... not much too it.
[20:02] <MWisBest> yofel: Did ya hear? I fixed the problem with that CPU monitor thing. Turns out, FPS Monitor was enabled under effects. I just turnt it off and it was gone.
[20:02] <nytek_> llutz: i see, i was using 8080 in windows, might be a little bit different in that environmenet
[20:02] <llutz> nytek_: maybe, but it's not needed to use tor
[20:02] <user__> someone know where i can find via chrome drivers for laptop ??
[20:02] <nytek_> llutz: really?
[20:03] <MWisBest> I'm using KDE4.4 in Kubuntu and none of my GTK apps using my KDE themes. How can I fix this?
[20:03] <Darael> muad1: You could allow passworded ssh access, generate the keys, then run ssh-copy-id and finally disable password auth.
[20:03] <Darael> tim__: be careful, you don't want to shred your main drive, if you have another.
[20:03] <Salva1> Hello. Pidgin conversations don 't appear in front of Firefox. I have not set Firefox to be always on top.
[20:03] <blakkheim> MWisBest: that is normal
[20:03] <muad1> rob_p: sure but how do you make an connection too the server when you dont have an console too type the paswd in?
[20:03] <yofel> MWisBest: heh, and you might want to ask in #kubuntu
[20:03] <MWisBest> blakkheim: That's weird, because in Mepis Synaptic works fine. Uses my 4.3 themes.
[20:03] <histo> Rawxor: you can try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[20:03] <rob_p> muad1: Why don't you have a console?
[20:03] <MWisBest> yofel: I did, but they didn't even respond.
[20:03] <infid> does ubuntu karmic not understand ~/.Xresources?
[20:04] <PingFloyd> mergus: was it you I was talking to earlier?
[20:04] <pelandrit> hello folks
[20:04] <Rawxor> histo: i've already tried that
[20:04] <jrib> infid: why do you say that?
[20:04] <user__> someone know where to find via chrome drivers ???
[20:04] <PingFloyd> mergus: about the ati drivers
[20:04] <Chinta> So, no one here knows how to set the channel it is changed by the keyboard volume control keys? Thats sad! I thought it had to be really simple! *buuuhuhu*
[20:04] <histo> Rawxor: here is a bug with a bunch of workarounds posted that some have said work with different hardware. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/396558
[20:04] <Salva1> Hello. Pidgin conversations don 't appear in front of Firefox. I have not set Firefox to be always on top.
[20:04] <Rawxor> histo: thanks - do you know if there is a way to get flash to use pulseaudio?
[20:04] <mergus> no wasn't me PingFloyd
[20:05] <muad1> rob_p: cause this is an automated reinstall script for customers that has bought an site off me
[20:05] <r0k3tm3n> is there anyone here that has experience with mac powerpc?
[20:05] <yofel> MWisBest: tried 'kcm-gtk' (It will add a gtk apps config option in Systemsettings->Appearance)
[20:05] <tim__> Darael: I have a backup on external so it won't be a problem, I'll just unplug it.
[20:05] <Spear> !help
[20:05] <jrib> r0k3tm3n: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:05] <Ricoshady> Rawxor ifconfig -a only returned lo
[20:05] <PingFloyd> melter: were you the one having troubles with the fglrx driver?
[20:05] <Darael> tim__: Good plan.  You can never be too careful ;)
[20:05] <neopsyche> hi all.. anyone here use a blackberry?
[20:06] <Pershian007> blackberry ؟؟؟
[20:06] <MWisBest> yofel: It's installed and I've changed the settings in there but it doesn't work.
[20:06] <histo> Chinta: check in sound preferences should be whatever is set for the default output
[20:06] <Spear> I am having problems connecting to a Samba server (as a client) using both cifs and smbfs.
[20:06] <rob_p> muad1: Then perhaps you should distribute your public key to your clients and have them install it on their systems.
[20:06] <r0k3tm3n> jrib: ik that, someone told me that the last time i was here, how else do i phrase a question like that?
[20:06] <jrib> Spear: just tell the channel what the actual problem is
[20:06] <Darael> neopsyche: Best to just describe the problem.
[20:06] <abelardo> nytek_, llutz "The proxy server is refusing connections"
[20:06] <yofel> MWisBest: IIRC you need to restart KDE for it to take effects
[20:06] <neopsyche> Perishin007: its a phone
[20:06] <Spear> jrib: I use the command reccomended in the help wiki and nothing happens
[20:06] <yofel> *effect
[20:06] <jrib> r0k3tm3n: assume someone said "yes", what would you say after?
[20:06] <Spear> there is no error ^^
[20:06] <MWisBest> yofel: just log out and in then?
[20:06] <neopsyche> Pershian007: its a phone
[20:06] <jrib> Spear: what command?
[20:06] <r0k3tm3n> jrib: ok, thanks
[20:07] <yofel> MWisBest: afaik yes
[20:07] <MWisBest> yofel: Ok. I'll BRB.
[20:07] <Spear> jrib: sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.2/Drobo ~/mnt -o username=root,noexec
[20:07] <muad1> rob_p: still even thou i cant make an automated ssh connection from the client too the server when needed by the client
[20:07] <jrib> Spear: and what hapens in ~/mnt?
[20:07] <r0k3tm3n> i have a powerbook that wont boot. i can hear the chime, and i reset the PRAM, but it still wont boot.
[20:07] <Spear> jrib: nothing -- it stays empty
[20:07] <Chinta> histo: <3 Thank you so much. So simple that it burned me when I saw it. Thanks!
[20:08]  * Chinta bows and leaves, smiling and satisfied
[20:08] <jrib> r0k3tm3n: if it's not an ubuntu question you should try the mac channels.  I think ##apple is one of them
[20:08] <muad1> Chinta: :)
[20:08] <jrib> Spear: what says empty...?
[20:08] <Spear> jrib: james@gazelle:~$ ls mnt/
[20:08] <Spear> james@gazelle:~$
[20:08] <rob_p> muad1: You can if you install their public key on the server.
[20:08] <r0k3tm3n> jrib: i tried one of the mac chans, but no one could answer my question, but thnx
[20:08] <Spear> jrib: james@gazelle:~$ ls -a mnt/
[20:08] <Spear> .  ..
[20:08] <Spear> james@gazelle:~$
[20:09] <Spear> there is _nothing_ there
[20:09] <rob_p> muad1: ...but you probably dont want that for security reasons.
[20:09] <chatroulette> lol
[20:09] <Spear> jrib: it prompts for a password, I know that the password is correct and the box is on a static IP
[20:09] <abelardo> Hi all
[20:09] <abelardo> I've problemusing TOR
[20:09] <rob_p> muad1: ...unless they will be accessing their own account on the server...
[20:09] <muad1> not as easy as it sounds always
[20:09] <jrib> Spear: are you running this as your user?
[20:10] <Spear> jrib: the command is run as sudo but ~ is /home/james
[20:10] <jrib> Spear: are you able to connect ok using smbclient for example?
[20:10] <Spear> jrib: I haven't tried smbclient
[20:10] <rob_p> muad1: I've scripted many processes that rely on establishing ssh connections to remote systems.  Public key authentication is heavily relied on in every case.
[20:11] <rob_p> muad1: It works very well.
[20:11] <muad1> rob_p: you have an site o could read on?
[20:11] <jrib> Spear: what are you reading to get that command?
[20:11] <Spear> jrib: installing it now
[20:11] <Spear> jrib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Connecting%20using%20CIFS
[20:12] <Gla> whta's +j ?
[20:12] <rob_p> muad1: I haven't documented it because there is already a plethora of information about public key authentication available.
[20:12] <muad1> rob_p: whould have an look at it you around here from time too time btw?
[20:13] <rob_p> muad1: Not sure what you mean, sorry.
[20:14] <Spear> jrib: james@gazelle:~$ smbclient \/\/10.0.0.2\/Drobo -U root
[20:14] <Spear> Enter root's password:
[20:14] <Spear> Domain=[Applegate] OS=[Apple Base Station] Server=[CIFS 4.32]
[20:14] <Spear> smb: \> SMBecho failed. Maybe server has closed the connection
[20:14] <FloodBot2> Spear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <SuperID> I've got ubuntu (recent, 9 I think) on a dell mini 10 with an hdmi output.   I'm trying to play a video on hdmi for the first time.   Should the hdmi output typically be "live" or do I have to enable it with a function key like with a regular VGA out laptop?
[20:14] <infid> jrib: because i created it and put 'Xterm*font: 24x24' in ~/.Xresources and when i run xterm it doesnt change the font
[20:14] <infid> size
[20:15] <Sh3r1ff> SuperID: you'll most likely have to enable it like with a vga cable
[20:15] <quentusrex> Anyone know of a good graphic application?
[20:15] <Ricoshady> I moved my vmware image to another host and now I can't see eth0
[20:15] <SuperID> sh3r1ff:   thx
[20:16] <turbowei> quentusrex, gimp
[20:16] <syrius> when will ubuntu be legal?
[20:16] <tesseracter> friendly VPN client?
[20:16] <Darael> syrius: It's legal already!
[20:17] <Darael> syrius: Where did you get the idea that it was not legal?
[20:17] <tesseracter> quentusrex, gimp is ok, photoshop is still better for pixels. i think inkscape is better than illustrator though.
[20:17] <turbowei> troll alert?
[20:17] <syrius> I put the cd in the drive boot and it says illegal os and then it shuts down
[20:17] <harushimo> I got an IPOD as bday gift but I use ubuntu. what is a good alternative for ITunes in ubuntu
[20:17] <dereks> where can i get information on indicator?
[20:18] <harushimo> any suggestions
[20:18] <dereks> i want to make a notification for my apt
[20:18] <dereks> err
[20:18] <dereks> app
[20:18] <tesseracter> harushimo, amarok and exaile and songbird all have ipod setups.
[20:18] <syrius> rythmbox harushimo just disable ipod and enable mtp
[20:18] <Darael> turbowei: Meh, I figured just giving a straight answer was prudent - it might have been a genuine question, and if that had been the case (though it's unlikely) by ignoring it we'd potentially have offended someone.
[20:18] <harushimo> how do you enable mtp?
[20:18] <harushimo> what is mtp?
[20:18] <quentusrex> tesseracter, I'm trying to use a graph to display sales commission schedules.
[20:19] <rootpower> how to get an interface for network?
[20:19] <syrius> I put my music files manually on my ipod via file manager
[20:19] <harushimo> is songbird avaliable for ubuntu 8.1
[20:19] <syrius> I put it in a folder called music then I got folders called proprietary and free software for proprietary codecs and for free codecs
[20:19] <Darael> harushimo: Not in the official repos but there's probably a PPA if you search Launchpad.
[20:19] <ZykoticK9> harushimo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird for more details as well
[20:20] <syrius> ipod support doesn't work for the one in the PPA
[20:20] <histo> lucky ones i have a ipod 3g touch no way to transfer fiels
[20:20] <syrius> why not histo ?
[20:20] <rootpower> how to get an interface for network?
[20:20] <syrius> you can't drag and drop like other removable media histo?
[20:20] <turbowei> Is there a program that can convert all the weird encoding in mp3 tags to UTF-8?
[20:21] <histo> syrius: nope not on 3gen
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> turbowei, check out EasyTag it might do it
[20:21] <Darael> syrius: The iPod Touch doesn't recognise files that you just place on it, it refuses to work except with iTunes.  Some complicated hashing thing and iTunes media library files...
[20:21] <turbowei> alright
[20:22] <norbi905> Hello, would I be able to ask a question in regards to a game running under wine in Ubuntu?  Or is that not allowed?
[20:22] <FoolsRun> Hi, I'm connecting to my ubuntu machine via VNC. VNC should be showing me the Ubuntu login screen but instead I get a gray crosshatched background and the default "X" cursor. I think the problem has to do with remotegreeter. Can anyone help me track this down?
[20:22] <syrius> well I use rockbox to play them histo Darael
[20:22] <Darael> syrius: Rockbox doesn't run on the ipod touch.  At least not on the 3g.
[20:22] <syrius> I see
[20:23] <syrius> I hate the way itunes stores music on the ipod
[20:23] <syrius> it is retarded
[20:23] <animeshmeher> norbi905 : wine forum would be a better forum , just a suggestion
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> norbi905, what's the question?  curious now.
[20:24] <histo> syrius: agreed I would never buy an ipod but I got it as a gift. So now i'm just waiting to jailbreak it.
[20:25] <Darael> norbi905: It's allowed, just possibly not the best place.
[20:25] <rootpower> how to get an interface for network?
[20:25] <avogadro> How do you identify which DISPLAY the xserver is running on (trying to run firefox as root) ?
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> histo, two options for you: iTunes has silver in Wine's DB now, OR use VirtualBox (w/USB support) to create a MS VM (if you have a legal copy)
[20:26] <rob_p> rootpower: Just get one, plug it in and boot up.  The OS will load the correct module if it's supported.
[20:26] <histo> ZykoticK9: yeah the wifes laptop is windows box so I just use that untill untethered jailbreak comes out.
[20:26] <iceroot> avogadro: ever run firefox as root
[20:26] <iceroot> avogadro: never
[20:27] <norbi905> animeshmeher, ZykoticK9, Darael:  The very little research that I'v done point to the OS as being faulty.  The game is World of Warcraft.  I have a G15 keyboard, and under wine, when i'm running with my character even after i let go of the key it keeps running.  The character in game seems to be "stuttering" when running.  Not sure what the prob is. :(
[20:27] <rootpower> i have set the drivers into the /lib/firmware map and rebooted but no wlan interface
[20:27] <rootpower> but the light on my laptop burns
[20:27] <avogadro> iceroot: well I still need to run it to open some files locally
[20:27] <Dantonic> can I make ssh server listen on port 21 instead of 22?  so I can differentiate different computers on the network?
[20:27] <iceroot> avogadro: no
[20:27] <jrib> infid: did you run xrdb -merge with the file first?
[20:27] <iceroot> avogadro: you dont and want run firefox as root
[20:27] <jrib> Spear: use a pastebin please
[20:28] <jrib> avogadro: you should tell us what you are trying to accomplish
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> norbi905, i have no idea (don't play WoW) so as animeshmeher suggested try in wine channel (if you don't get an answer here first).  Good luck.
[20:28] <Darael> norbi905: Have you looked at the Ubuntu help page for WoW?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[20:28] <avogadro> iceroot: well do you know how to do it
[20:28] <rob_p> rootpower: So it's not supported by default, it seems.  Are you trying to use ndiswrapper or something?
[20:28] <Sh3r1ff> Dantonic: you can, but that's were ip's are for ;)
[20:28] <avogadro> jrib: attempting to open some html files in root
[20:28] <jrib> avogadro: *why*?
[20:29] <avogadro> jrib: because I would like to read through them
[20:29] <iceroot> avogadro: yes, dont run firefox as root
[20:29] <Dantonic> Sh3r1ff, but how can I make the router know which computer to send the ssh request to if I don't differentiate the IPs by port number?
[20:29] <jrib> avogadro: so open them in a text editor
[20:29] <Dantonic> Sh3r1ff, if they're all listening on port 22 and all computers are on...
[20:29] <jrib> avogadro: or if you want to view them rendered, open them as your user
[20:29] <norbi905> Darael, ZykoticK9: Yeah this isn't the first time installing the game.  It is however the first time using it with the G15 keyboard.  I will however take a look at the wine forums.  Thanks for the help.
[20:29] <avogadro> jrib: then the js wont work, still what is the harm when the pc is offline =
[20:29] <Sh3r1ff> Dantonic: when you ssh to an ip, you'll arrive on that ip, basic networking
[20:30] <jrib> avogadro: why don't you just open them as your user?
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> norbi905, there is a wine irc channel - you could try there
[20:30] <avogadro> jrib: firefox cant access the /root folder as non root
[20:30] <iceroot> avogadro: again! never !! run firefox as root
[20:30] <ZykoticK9> norbi905, try in #winehq
[20:31] <jrib> avogadro: it really just seems like you are using root when there's no point to.  And that's causing your issues.  (I imagine you did something as root to get the html files into /root in the first place)
[20:31] <Dantonic> Sh3r1ff, if I am sshing from outside over the internet, there is only 1 ip that I can ssh into... that's my ISPs ip... How can I differentiate among the local network ips from outside?
[20:31] <s1lver> norbi905: if you're using KDE go to "System Settings / Keyboard and Mouse" and disable keyboard repeat
[20:31] <Darael> avogadro: Consider using links, lynx or elinks.
[20:31] <FoolsRun> Is it possible to have xinetd provide a VNC server that shows the GDM login screen anymore? No amount of googling had helped me fix this --it was working before Karmic.
[20:31] <iceroot> avogadro: and of course there doesnt have to be html files in /root
[20:31] <Darael> avogadro: That's if what jrib isn't accurate.
[20:32] <stuNNed> Dantonic: by port number
[20:32] <Dantonic> stuNNed, that's what I thought
[20:32] <stuNNed> ssh ip -p whatever
[20:32] <Sh3r1ff> Dantonic: in that case you'll have to use different ports indeed
[20:32] <avogadro> frak .. I guess I'll have to move them then ..
[20:33] <iceroot> avogadro: why are there html files in /root?
[20:33] <Sh3r1ff> Dantonic: but beware that some isp's block certain port ranges
[20:33] <avogadro> iceroot: well I extracted the contents of a pcap there
[20:33] <Dantonic> so now let me ask you this... Ever since I upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 I am unable to ssh into this box, locally or remotely... I get "Could not resolve hostname..."  " Name or service not known"
[20:33] <iceroot> avogadro: and why root?
[20:33] <avogadro> iceroot: I be noob
[20:33] <iceroot> avogadro: never use root, use your user
[20:34] <norbi905> s1lver:  I am under GNOME.  Would there be a similar setup for that?
[20:34] <iceroot> avogadro: if yu are root, this is not supported here
[20:35] <avogadro> iceroot: sure
[20:35] <mauvais> Question: How do I write a "ntldr boot sector" to a partitions boot sector?
[20:35] <calrik> avogadro: use sudo or gksudo for gui programs if need to do admin stuff like that
[20:35] <colombian> Guys, I logged in as root user yesterday, changed some things, then went back to my normal account like normal. However, today I can't seem to log in to my normal account.
[20:35] <colombian> It gives me this as an error: http://pastie.org/823616
[20:35] <s1lver> norbi905: Im not sure, Im not that familiar with gnome.
[20:35] <norbi905> s1lver:  I have found a similar option under GNOME.  I am testing it right now, and that might have fixed the problem :)
[20:35] <mauvais> or: How do I copy a boot sector from one partition to the other
[20:35] <colombian> Then when I delete that file it gives me this: http://pastie.org/823617
[20:36] <colombian> When I look for another X process - I see one under root when I kill it - my normal user logs out (I'm logged in with gnome)
[20:36] <Fangz> hmm, is there a way to do kde 4.4 with wubi?
[20:36] <alpha__> what does spinich taste like?
[20:36] <colombian> Any ideas why I can't log in with xterm? If I try to log in it seems to log in fine but I just get a white shell, no GUI starts.
[20:37] <guntbert> colombian: that what you can get if you start GUI apps as root (and don't use gksudo) - there is a way to recover - only I don't remember now
[20:37] <infid> what's a sane terminal for ubuntu? gnome-terminal doesn't act right and gnome wont let me configure xterm by using an ~/.Xresources file?
[20:38] <Darael> infid: Depends what you want it to do.
[20:38] <killernight_> b
[20:38] <norbi905> s1lver:  And I believe it did.  Such a simple fix thanks a lot :)
[20:38] <erUSUL> infid: "gnome-terminal doesn't act right" details ?
[20:38] <colombian> guntbert: Forgive me
[20:38] <s1lver> norbi905: glad I could help :)
[20:38] <infid> erUSUL: gnome-terminal wont show my vim syntax color schemes right
[20:38] <colombian> guntbert: I did it to change my username in my normal account
[20:39] <colombian> guntbert: Everything seemed to work out fine except now I can't login (under xterm) right now I'm logged in with gnome fine.
[20:39] <colombian> (I don't know what the difference is between gnome and xterm btw)
[20:39] <erUSUL> infid: to make ~/.Xresources take effect you need to reload X or run « xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources »
[20:39] <avogadro> calrik: using sudo with firefox still needs a --display= defined
[20:40] <infid> i did that erUSUL
[20:40] <VCoolio> infid: you can set colors in somewhere in the preferences; or use rxvt(-unicode) and define color scheme in ~/.Xdefaults
[20:40] <infid> VCoolio: tried that
[20:40] <guntbert> colombian: its not *my* problem - but for the future: use gksudo with GUI apps - but alas I still don't remember the steps to recovery - please ask the channel for them
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> avogadro, DON'T use "sudo firefox" ever!  use "gksu firefox" if you MUST run it as root (try to avoid at all costs)
[20:41] <infid> colors work fine in xterm but i cant seem to configure xterm from ~/.Xresources, if i could i'd be golden
[20:41] <calrik> avogadro: use gksudo firefox but you shouldnt need to use firefox with root rights omg
[20:41] <dustin> could anyone help me with a wine problem? im trying to run an install and im getting this error: wine: could not load L"E:\\.": Invalid handle
[20:42] <colombian> Channel: what are the steps to recovery after running gui apps under root?
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> dustin, what are you installing?
[20:42] <infid> is there something wrong with: Xterm*font: 24x24
[20:42] <dustin> ZykoticK9: trying to install world of warcraft :\, i found a guide and im running this command:   env WINEPREFIX="/home/dustin/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/WorldOfWarcraft/" wine "/media/cdrom0/"
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> dustin, looks like you are using PlayOnLinux - is that correct?
[20:43] <dustin> ive used PlayOnLinux to install the previous 2, but now on the 3rd PlayOnLinux doesnt support it
[20:43] <dustin> ZykoticK9: yes
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> dustin, sorry man I'm not a PoL expert at all - never "really" used it.  if you want general wine instructions for ubuntu see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft best of luck man
[20:44] <jacky> hey guys, is it possible for me to auto-connect to my wireless network after i restart my pc?
[20:45] <jp--> hi guys
[20:45] <timmarshall> can some please do this tutorial in english please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdM5S_LFuVM
[20:45] <magn3ts> I installed ubuntu two days ago and updated Grub yesterday. Now when I attempt to boot Ubuntu from Grub, I simply get a '...' ellipsis and nothing ever boots :[
[20:45] <jp--> do you know any workaround to make the ubuntu splash boot in colors using a composite output?
[20:45] <dustin> ZykoticK9: well, even when i try to run the installer directly from wine im getting an error: wine: could not load L"D:\\Installer.exe": Module not found
[20:45] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: network manager does
[20:45] <jacky> do i need to install anything?
[20:46] <mauvais> This is probably a basic question but google isnt telling me... how do I put a windows xp boot sector ("ntldr" boot sector) on a partition?
[20:46] <guntbert> !ot | mauvais
[20:46] <Sh3r1ff> jacky: network manager is default in the install
[20:46] <Darael> jacky: Nope - it ought to just happen as soon as you log in, once you've connected once.
[20:46] <ZykoticK9> dustin, the link suggests copying content of cd to a local folder and some work arounds -- you'll need to read the link - i've never done it.  good luck.
[20:46] <timmarshall> can someone please do a tutorial on firestarter firewall on youtube please as i carnt understand this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdM5S_LFuVM
[20:46] <hamzaatova2> how can i make vlc to open the radio files?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[20:46] <hamzaatova2> how do i find the right subtitles for an movie--????? i always end up with unsyncronized ones
[20:46] <mauvais> Well its sort of ubuntu related, I figured there might be a linux tool to write boot sectors.
[20:46] <jacky> so everything is auto once I log in for the first time?
[20:46] <dustin> ZykoticK9: thanks!
[20:47] <Sh3r1ff> mauvais: the boot sector has to be in the beginning of the disk
[20:47] <Darael> jacky: Yup, pretty much
[20:47] <guntbert> mauvais: this channel is for ubuntu support - not for merely ubuntu related things
[20:47] <laura10> hola
[20:47] <Sh3r1ff> hamzaatova2: sync the subtitles yourself or find other ones
[20:48] <jacky> hmm something weird just happen i think. the top part of everything (the part where you get to minimise, close program) is missing.
[20:48] <usuario> lidia
[20:48] <kaddi__> mauvais: try asking in ##windows
[20:48] <jacky> how do i retrieve it back?
[20:48] <NoMa> âñåì ïðèâåò
[20:48] <usuario> ana la gimnasta
[20:48] <happier> there is a chan for ubuntu in spanish ?
[20:49] <alankila> jacky: window manager crash. The stuff is called decorations. Log in again, or try to execute compiz from any open terminal
[20:49] <Darael> jacky: Do you have compiz turned on?  If so, alt+f2 then "compiz --replace" (no quotes), otherwise use "metacity" instead of "compiz"
[20:49] <corey> 9.04, installed mysql packages and every time I try to install a different unrelated package mysql-server-5.0 keeps coming up with configure options and then fails out.
[20:49] <magn3ts> I installed ubuntu two days ago and updated Grub yesterday. Now when I attempt to boot Ubuntu from Grub, I simply get a '...' ellipsis and nothing ever boots :[
[20:49] <norbi905> Darael, ZykoticK9:  Just as a future reference, it was the keyboard repeat option in Ubuntu.  If I held down the key in game, it would get stuck and keep repeating itself untill I pressed something else.  Once I turned that option off it is now working as intended.  Not important, but since you were curious, I thought i'd let you know.
[20:49] <ZykoticK9> norbi905, glad you figured it out!  enjoy WoW!
[20:50] <Darael> norbi905: Chhers, I'll remember that in case anyone else asks - or if I ever decide to give it a go!
[20:50] <dustin> norbi905: you successfully install WoW?
[20:50] <jacky> Darael: Thanks alot. It works "compiz --replace". Anyway, is there a place where they have a list of command for us to study? Guess I need to memorise quite a number of them.
[20:50] <guillaume> just use playonlinux, it's simple
[20:50] <dustin> guillaume: im trying to do that, but havent a problem with the 2nd expandion dvd
[20:50] <dustin> expansion*
[20:50] <FoolsRun> I'm about ready to give up, but I'll ask once more incase anyone new has come in:  Has anyone gotten, in Karmic, an xinetd-launched VNC session that shows the GDM login screen working?
[20:51] <Darael> jacky: You might consider adding a launcher to your panel if it happens to you a lot.
[20:51] <magn3ts> Does anyone have any tips for me? I quite literally can not boot my computer :/
[20:51] <esteban> hello, I have an strange secondary menu when I use open with anoter application...  see it http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1174/pantallazopo.png   I am using ubuntu 9.10
[20:51] <norbi905> dusting: Yes
[20:51] <norbi905> dustin: Yes
[20:51] <dustin> norbi905: did you use playonlinux or just wine?
[20:52] <Darael> jacky: There's a few places, hang on while I dig up some links if you're interested.
[20:52] <esteban> how can i fixed it?
[20:52] <jacky> Darael: Yes, I'm interested. Thanks a lot. :)
[20:52] <norbi905> dustin:  wine worked just fine.  I did have a problem accepting the EULA.  Had to download the latest version of wine ( as opposed to the one in the repos ).
[20:53] <dustin> norbi905: i was having that problem also, so the newest version of wine works with the downloader?
[20:53] <Darael> jacky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal is as good a place as any to start, and has links to a good few other pages at the bottom.
[20:53] <rob_p> FoolsRun: Perhaps this has something to help:  http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[20:53] <happyface> what is the "xterm" option when logging into ubuntu? Just a terminal?
[20:53] <JPeterson> I'm looking for a guide for setting up a SSH tunnel SOCKS proxy server that will work with the openssh -D command
[20:54] <norbi905> dustin:  Yes, I have version 1.1.31 .  That one fixed the problem, and I could click "accept"
[20:54] <FoolsRun> rob_p: those are old instructions. That kind of thing worked before Karmic but doesn't work anymore.
[20:54] <Darael> happyface: Yup, pretty much.
[20:54] <esteban> are there anyone seeing my problem?
[20:54] <jacky> Darael: thanks bookmarked. anyway, you mentioned a launcher, how do i go about doing it?
[20:54] <dustin> norbi905: so i need to download wine and just compile it instead of using the one in the repo?
[20:54] <happyface> Darael: so is it an X11 display manager?
[20:54] <rob_p> FoolsRun: I saw it was a little dated but hoped enough of it might be relavent...
[20:55] <norbi905> dustin:  Yes, I don't remember how I did it.  But they might have an ubuntu package to install, if not then just compile
[20:55] <ZykoticK9> happyface, it runs Xorg with just an Xterm inside it -- it's for troubleshooting / recovery really (not meant as a replacement for Gnome or anything)
[20:55] <FoolsRun> rob_p: I have basically that setup right now, but where it used to show me the GDM login screen (before Karmic) it now shows the hatched gray background and default "X" cursor.
[20:55] <Darael> jacky: Assuming you're in Ubuntu as opposed to Kubuntu, right-click the panel and go "add to panel...", then choose "custom application launcher and enter your chosen command.  You might want to give it a nice custom icon too ;)
[20:55] <meway> does anyone  know the command to extract all files in one folder in order at once? If there is one anyway?
[20:56] <colombian> Hey guys
[20:56] <magn3ts> I need help troubleshooting Grub. Can anyone help me?
[20:56] <corey> 9.04, installed mysql packages and every time I try to install a different unrelated package mysql-server-5.0 keeps coming up with configure options and then fails out. is my only options to remove the package and compile from source?
[20:56] <rob_p> FoolsRun: I wonder if it has something to do with how VNC is being launched?  You are using xinetd, right?
[20:56] <HammerHead66> does anyone know how to install the flashplayer for linux 64-bit?
[20:56] <colombian> Is it normal to only be able to log in through Gnome, and not xterm?
[20:56] <ZykoticK9> meway, what sort of files are you extracting?
[20:56] <FoolsRun> rob_p: yes, xinetd
[20:56] <meway> phpbb
[20:56] <balki> hello, I have a big problem with a tar archive. I can't untar it anymore. who can help me ?
[20:56] <corey> HammerHead66, you could use the synaptic interface
[20:56] <FoolsRun> rob_p: it's almost like it's not talking to GDM
[20:56] <ZykoticK9> meway, ?
[20:56] <meway> ZykoticK9, unless there is an easy way to install phpbb that you know XD
[20:56] <meway> ZykoticK9, zip
[20:56] <jacky> Darael: ahhh, alright i got it. Thanks mate. :)
[20:56] <corey> balki, are you using 'tar -xvf /path/file.tar' ?
[20:57] <Darael> esteban: That's intended to let you choose another application to open the file with - expand that bit at the bottom and you can enter a command instead if you prefer.
[20:57] <rob_p> FoolsRun: Should work but maybe something is being overlooked.  I can't say I've ever messed with VNC server under Ubuntu.
[20:57] <Darael> jacky: no probs, happy to help.
[20:57] <happyface> thanks ZykoticK9
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> meway, easy way would be "sudo apt-get install phpbb3" done.
[20:57] <meway> ZykoticK9, I need to make sure it is in the correct directory
[20:57] <calrik> corey: Im having a similiar issue with 9.10 after ahwile my mysql will just stop working...
[20:57] <magn3ts> well this is disappointing
 yes,  but it gives me this error :gzip: leen.backup.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> meway, then i don't know
[20:58] <meway> ZykoticK9, ok ty
[20:58] <corey> balki, did you notice the last extension on the file? it's not .tar
[20:58] <corey> balki, try gunzip first, then tar
[20:58] <ZykoticK9> meway, you need to extract multiple ZIPs though?
[20:58] <balki> yes that  what  I tried  without success  :-(
[20:59] <corey> balki, check the md5 checksum if you can, otherwise download a fresh copy
[20:59] <ZykoticK9> meway, you could try (not saying it's going to work) "for file in *.zip ; do unzip $file ; done" should extract all ZIPs to current directory
[20:59] <HammerHead66> ﻿corey: I tried to reinstall it that way it didn't work
[20:59] <calrik> the repositories seem really out of date where mysql is concerned , latest version 5.1.43 the repo's I got only got 5.1.37
[20:59] <rob_p> FoolsRun: Is it tightvnc you're running?
[20:59] <magn3ts> I installed ubuntu two days ago and updated Grub yesterday. Now when I attempt to boot Ubuntu from Grub, I simply get a '...' ellipsis and nothing ever boots :[
[20:59] <corey> HammerHead66, check about:plugins in firefox to see if it's recognizing it
[21:00] <Darael> corey: Alternative to filtering through gunzip - use tar with the -z option.  Just FYI.
[21:00] <meway> ZykoticK9, I don't understand?
[21:00] <FoolsRun> rob_p: Xvnc is the server I'm running
[21:00] <corey> HammerHead66, you can also run 'firefox' from a terminal and see the output, should contain debug information for the symbols loaded
[21:00] <esteban> darael, i would like repair he existing corrupted menu
[21:00] <ZykoticK9> meway, do you want to extract a directory full of ZIP files?
[21:00] <craigbass1976> Just installed 64 bit ubuntu for the first time.  Is there an issue with 64 bit and the fwcutter for broadcom 43xx cards I should have investigated first?
[21:00] <balki> i will try, the problem is that  it's a backup and  I don't  have  any other copy
[21:00] <jacky> Darael: quick question for you. i noticed my internet speed increases a lot compared to the time when i'm using windows xp.
[21:00] <V4mpire> tar xvf extracts .gz for me
[21:00] <greg__> hello how do i increase the number of open files allowed?
[21:00] <jacky> is it meant to be like that?
[21:01] <meway> ZykoticK9, yes
[21:01] <Ricoshady> if I delete /etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules, shouldnt it be rebuilt on reboot?
[21:01] <magn3ts> :(
[21:01] <klata> is it safe to download a new kernel?
[21:01] <CyberaX2195> for i in $(ls *.zip) ; do unzip $i ; done
[21:01] <Darael> jacky: Interesting.  If it's better, I'd just assume it's fine.  XP ought really to be working at the same speed though.
[21:01] <CyberaX2195> ^ unzips all zip files into the current dir, provided you have unzip installed
[21:01] <Darael> klata: What's wrong with the ones provided?
[21:02] <jacky> the speed difference is like 3 times though. getting about 90 - 120kbps for xp.
[21:02] <jacky> now i'm getting about 300+ kpbs
[21:02] <meway> ZykoticK9, I think I figured it out
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> meway, open a terminal and cd to the directory with all the zips then type the following (without the quotes) "for file in *.zip ; do unzip $file ; done" if the files end in ZIP instead of zip, repeat but put *.ZIP at the beginning.  does that explain better?
[21:02] <corey> jacky: so, then why would you need to use xp?
[21:02] <Darael> jacky: Hmm, sounds like there's something running in the background in XP that's either throttling your network or eating up your bandwidth.
[21:02] <klata> Darael: the software updater tells me to download a new one
[21:03]  * CyberaX2195 shakes fist at there being more than one way to skin a cat in bash 
[21:03] <jacky> corey: well, i didn't know till i try ubuntu. just tried and kinda like it. :)
[21:03] <corey> jacky, you should run a virus check as a lot of malicious software can get on xp and use your computer as a server for other programs
[21:03] <Darael> klata: Oh, yes, that's fine.  I thought you were going to download and install a kernel from somewhere random.  The ones provided by Ubuntu are not required updates, but it's a good idea.
[21:03] <chrisboom> howdi guys. trying to get backuppc working on ubuntu server 9.10
[21:04] <timmarshall> how often does ubuntu laptops get hacked
[21:04] <HammerHead66> ﻿corey:http://pastebin.com/m5d7cc013
[21:04] <klata> Darael: Thank for your assitance =)
[21:04] <chrisboom> getting told that 2010-02-13 20:43:15 $Conf{NmbLookupPath} = '/usr/bin/nmblookup' is not a valid executable program
[21:04] <corey> timmarshall, no more then ubuntu desktops. eh
[21:04] <timmarshall> on wireless i mean?
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> chrisboom, this is the place to ask that question - BUT if you don't get an answer here try repeating in #ubuntu-server.  Good luck.
[21:04] <Darael> timmarshall: You're probably not asking a genuine question, but the answer is "rarely"
[21:05] <Darael> klata: No probs, happy to help.
[21:05] <klata> Darael: Im going to download it right now.
[21:05] <corey> timmarshall, still have no clue what you're talking about.
[21:05] <timmarshall> even on wireless?
[21:05] <chrisboom> and when i look usr/bin/nmblookup isnt installed
[21:05] <chrisboom> ZykoticK9: thanks.
[21:05] <rob_p> FoolsRun: This URL may help:  http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/tcl-core/3789564  It contains a config that, "...makes XVnc run the GDM greeter..."  Perhaps something in there will help.
[21:05] <Darael> timmarshall: Why would anyone bother?  And how would being on wireless make it more likely?
[21:05] <corey> timmarshall, what's with your paranoia of wireless?
[21:05] <chrisboom> i have samba installed
[21:05] <FoolsRun> rob_p: I'll look into it, thanks!
[21:06] <timmarshall> when ur in a public hotspot
[21:06] <corey> timmarshall, and..?
[21:06] <cryptk> is there anyone here that can help me with a grub problem?
[21:06] <timmarshall> so its still very rare
[21:06] <corey> timmarshall, are you asking how to secure your ports from a local network intrusion?
[21:06] <ZykoticK9> !ask > cryptk
[21:06] <timmarshall> yeah in a way
[21:06] <rob_p> FoolsRun: Good luck.  Hope you get it figured out.
[21:07] <dustin> norbi905: i got the installer to work, thanks!
[21:07] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, I know the policy, thanks... the reason why I asked that is because not everyone knows about grub2
[21:07] <Darael> timmarshall: I fail to see the problem - being "hacked" is unlikely even on public hotspots, and even if you were using windows, but it's even more unlikely in Ubuntu because it's more secure by design and also people tend to tarket windows.
[21:07] <corey> timmarshall, lmgtfy.com/?q=iptables
[21:07] <cryptk> I didn't want to type it all out unless there is someone here really familiar with grub2 because it isn't the standard "how do I add a menu entry"
[21:07] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, but thanks anyway
[21:08] <timmarshall> thanks man but iv installed a firewall anyway because there still is that chance
[21:08] <cryptk> so... is there anyone here familiar with more advanced aspects of grub2?
[21:08] <cryptk> and don't bot spam me
[21:08] <norbi905> dustin:  No problem.  Enjoy :)
[21:08] <Darael> timmarshall: If you want a GUI interface to your built-in firewall, rather than mucking about with iptables, look at firestarter or gufw.
[21:08] <ngm> ciao a tutti
[21:08] <corey> timmarshall, must not have been a very good firewall if you installed it and still do not trust it.
[21:08] <esteban> darael, have u got any idea to begin to investigate. I have noted that the repeated program are win programs that i used it with wine
[21:08] <timmarshall> it is gufw
[21:08] <Darael> esteban: Sorry, nope.
[21:08] <ngm> hi all
[21:08] <guntbert> !it | ngm
[21:08] <timmarshall> i installed it off software centre
[21:09] <corey> timmarshall, good to know.
[21:09] <Ubershutze> Hello everyone XD
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> cryptk, if it's a more complicated grub issue perhaps #gub would be a better channel.  good luck man.
[21:09] <jacky> how do i move a file into a folder?
[21:09] <corey> jacky, drag and drop
[21:09] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, well, let me re-phrase, is anyone familiar with adding usb keyboard support to grub2
[21:09] <jacky> was trying to install a theme and told to move the folder to /home/.theme
[21:09] <cryptk> that way people know at least what it is about
[21:09] <Darael> timmarshall: gufw is just an interface to iptables anyway - you won't actually need another firewall because there's iptables built into the kernel and gufw is just another way to manage it.
[21:09] <jacky> couldn't find the folder :<
[21:09] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, thanks for the heads up about #grub though
[21:10] <meway> how come phpbb3 is showing up forbidden?
[21:10] <timmarshall> oright
[21:10] <cryptk> unfortunately nobody is answering there so I thought I would try my  luck here
[21:10] <Ubershutze> Im a newb into Ubuntu and am trying a live install on a USB flash drive, but i cant seem to have my modem conect to the internet. It consumes all the memory and swap file and ubuntu crashes
[21:10] <c3l> what program is recommended to record on-screen (pref. with sound)?
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> cryptk, verify that your BIOS has USB Legacy enabled - or if it already is try removing it.  That's all i got.
[21:10] <Darael> timmarshall: In all honesty, if you really think you're likely to be "hacked", public wifi is a bad idea, but most people simply don't encounter it as a problem, especially when not running windows.
[21:10] <xangua> c3l: recordmydesktop¿¿
[21:10] <timmarshall> i preffer linux to windows its more secure
[21:11] <corey> jacky, oh well if it has a period at the beginning it is a hidden folder. you have to type it in manually in the navigation area
[21:11] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, that is the problem, I had to disable Legacy USB to stop my mouse freeze issues... now I need to add usb_keyboard support to grub2 in order to be able to use grub again but every time I do my PC just endlessly reboots
[21:11] <rob_p> jacky: Directories that begin with a "." (dot) are hidden.  That's why you didn't find it.  :-)
[21:11] <timmarshall> how come no one is switching to linux if its more secure and stable
[21:11] <c3l> xangua, ty
[21:11] <cryptk> which requires rebooting froma  live CD in order to remove the modifications
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> cryptk, way over my head - good luck man.
[21:11] <corey> timmarshall, because people simply are not aware of it or have no desire to secure their system.
[21:12] <chrisboom> so... any ideas at all guys?
[21:12] <Darael> jacky: To show hidden files in Nautilus (that's the GNOME file manager) you can press ctrl+h - but we warned, in your home folder there's LOADS.
[21:12] <jacky> corey: sorry but where's the navigation panel? didn't see anywhere for me to type the directory in
[21:12] <cryptk> ZykoticK9, np man
[21:12] <timmarshall> oright well i think the distributions should advertise
[21:12] <Ubershutze> Any ideas why it would crash or any workarounds ?
[21:12] <blakkheim> !ot > timmarshall
[21:12] <corey> jacky, that long white bar, it could say something like "/home/jackie" where you would put in "/home/jackie/.themes" to get to that hidden folder
[21:13] <Darael> jacky: The navigation panel is that bit with buttons for the folder you're in and those above it across the top - press the one at the left-hand end to get a text box, sorta like an address bar.
[21:13] <corey> timmarshall, who would support that ad revenue?
[21:13] <jacky> Alright got it! :)
[21:13] <timmarshall> yeah i would
[21:13] <corey> timmarshall, well get on it!
[21:14] <nomadmatus> heelp! emergency! I can not boot ubuntu 9.10. something got wrong. How can I do it? pleaase...
[21:14] <timmarshall> i need money first
[21:14] <Flannel> timmarshall, corey: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this discussion.  Mind moving it there?
[21:14] <corey> Flannel, I'll just give it up. lost interest anyways =p
[21:14] <pelandrit> i need to install an alternate version from usb, i tried things like unetbootin and an externall usb dvd without sucess. any idea?
[21:14] <timmarshall> ok i need support on advertising linux what should i do to get the money
[21:15] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[21:15] <nomadmatus> I had a problem with sound, installing some packages, and then just...oooo, can not boot it. Any help?? pleaase
[21:15] <timmarshall> fine ill shuutup
[21:15] <nomadmatus> who is experiened in ubuntu? guys...
[21:15] <Flannel> timmarshall: You don't need to shutup, but this is a technical support channel.  Your conversation belongs in (and is encouraged) in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:15] <Ubershutze> Myrtti: Can you help me some ?
[21:15] <xangua> timmarshallnobody said you thar, READ
[21:16] <Darael> nomadmatus: Did you install a new kernel?  if so, try one of the older ones at the GRUB menu - if you get no grub menu, try holding shift after the bios screen.
[21:16] <AviDog> hey, how can I change the keyboard hotkey to show desktop (compiz)?
[21:16] <Darael> AviDog: system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts.
[21:16] <Myrtti> Ubershutze: sorry, don't have experience with modems
[21:16] <AviDog> Darael: I'll check that out, thanks.
[21:17] <Ubershutze> Darn ... Its crashing my live session from excessive use os swap ...
[21:17] <Ubershutze> *of
[21:17] <corey> I'm experiencing stuttering and stretched out audio with pulseaudio when trying a speaker test from "gnome-sound-properties". where should I begin to adjust the settings?
[21:17] <corey> could this be a incorrect buffer size, bad irq setting, ..?
[21:17] <Ubershutze> Thanks anyways XD
[21:17] <Darael> AviDog: Alternatively, pull up CCSM and it's under the section for "show desktop" or "fade to desktop", depending which one is active.
[21:17] <mix22891> how do i install file?
[21:18] <malev> hi, does anyone has a thinkpad X61s???
[21:18] <corey> mix22891, you mean writing data to your filesystem?
[21:18] <AviDog> Darael: that worked, but It actually doesn't do what I want. I want to assign one of the buttons on my 5-button mouse to do it.
[21:18] <malev> I'm trying to confirm a bug
[21:18] <Darael> AviDog: The option in CCSM may work.
[21:18] <AviDog> Darael: Ok, I'll check.
[21:19] <mix22891> corey: no. just to install
[21:19] <mix22891> sudo what?
[21:19] <nomadmatus> darael: hold shift in bios..nothing happend
[21:19] <Darael> AviDog: Actually, nope, sorry, it doesn't seem to be there.
[21:19] <AviDog> Darael: hmmm, neither are giving the option to set a
[21:19] <AviDog> Darael: yeah.
[21:20] <mix22891> im tryin to install Flashplayer
[21:20] <Darael> nomadmatus: You need to hold it after the POST, when grub would load.  If you're not on Karmic, try pressing esc when it says "GRUB loading..." instead.
[21:20] <testelus> what app to use to connect to my linux with remote desktop ? i need to connect from my windows to my linux using remote desktop.. i have installed vncserver and vnc4server. but when i try to connect i only get some sort of X with 1 terminal. i really need the desktop,
[21:20]  * Fangz downloads kubuntu
[21:20] <Fangz> putty?
[21:21] <Fangz> oh wait
[21:21] <corey> testelus, rdesktop
[21:21] <Darael> AviDog: The setting's actually under General Options, but only has settings for keyboard or screen corners, not mouse buttons :(
[21:21] <HaPK> hello
[21:21] <AviDog> Darael: That's why I'm here :D
[21:21] <nomadmatus> darael: done and then
[21:22] <Devrethman> Does anybody here know how to get QEmu guests able to see outside networking?
[21:22] <Darael> nomadmatus: Try using the third option, if it's an older kernel.
[21:22] <AviDog> Darael: That's bothersome. I really need that functionality, I can't function without it. Perhaps theres something under the gfconfig?
[21:22] <mix22891> ANY help?
[21:22] <nomadmatus> darael: 3option??
[21:22] <HaPK> I have half an isue now... I wasn't getting any sound, and after some heavy research and some tinkering I was able to make sound come out of my main sound system but not my headphones, what can I do to solve this?
[21:22] <nomadmatus> darael: normal or recovery mode?
[21:22] <Darael> AviDog: There might be a GConf  key, but I don't know I'm afraid.
[21:22] <corey> mix22891, no help because you're not asking the right question.
[21:23] <testelus> corey, i dont need a client.. i need the server.
[21:23] <Darael> nomadmatus: Normal, but you should have more than one of each.  Ifnot, I'm not sure.
[21:23] <AviDog> Darael: Can you point me in the right direction for googling or searching? Thanks.
[21:23] <corey> testelus, windows has an rdesktop server built-in.
[21:23] <malev> hello again, I'm gonna ask one more time :D does anyone has a thinkpad X61s
[21:23] <malev> ?
[21:23] <nomadmatus> 6 of them, so which one to use?
[21:23] <mix22891> im tryin to install flashplayer to firefox addon. how do i do that ?
[21:24] <testelus> corey, . yes,, but as i said. when i connect i only get X with 1 terminal when i connect from windows.
[21:24] <testelus> i need the destop.
[21:24] <Darael> Hmm, something along the lines of "compiz keybinding mouse" would be my first move, but I tend to start rough and refine.
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> Devrethman, have you looked into using VirtualBox instead of QEmu?  If your CPU support virtualization, VB or KVM would make your VMs MUCH faster.  I don't remember how to get Qemu on the network, was too long ago.  Good luck man.
[21:24] <Darael> nomadmatus: Use the second-latest one that's not a "recovery mode"
[21:24] <testelus> corey, no dm is loaded.
[21:24] <AviDog> Darael: Okay, I guess I've got some homework to do. Thanks for the help!
[21:25] <HaPK> I have half an isue now... I wasn't getting any sound, and after some heavy research and some tinkering I was able to make sound come out of my main sound system but not my headphones, what can I do to solve this?
[21:25] <greezmunkey> mix22891, Try here:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> Devrethman, there is also a Qemu channel #qemu if you don't get an answer here
[21:25] <Darael> AviDog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621454 looks like a place to start.
[21:26] <nomadmatus> darael:ubuntu is runnig in low-graphics mode. AIGLX error: dlopen of /urs/lib/dri/r600_dri so failed
[21:26] <AviDog> Darael: Okay.
[21:26] <Darael> nomadmatus: Hmm, interesting - I don't know much about graphics issues, you may be better off asking for general help again.
[21:26] <testelus> corey, on my linux i have 2 servers.. vncServer and vnc4server.. but how to config them so i can get the destop instead of X with 1 terminal.
[21:26] <Devrethman> ZykoticK9:I'll try VirtualBox, and see how that goes. I don't need it to be particularly fast, but I need it to get on the internet.
[21:27] <timmarshall> hi would it be possbile to create my own homepage??
[21:27] <nomadmatus> darael: thanks a lot. what exactly should I ask for?
[21:27] <ZykoticK9> Devrethman, if i remember correctly you probably need to setup a bridge to get Qemu on the net - in VBox it's built in.  Do you need USB support in your VMs?
[21:27] <user__> hi im trying to get a remote desktop experience similar to rdp. does such a thing exist for linux/ubuntu?
[21:27] <nomadmatus> darael: what kind of problem?
[21:27] <mkanyicy> nomadmatus, are you using gnome or kde?
[21:28] <HaPK> I have half an isue now... I wasn't getting any sound, and after some heavy research and some tinkering I was able to make sound come out of my main sound system but not my headphones, what can I do to solve this?
[21:28] <nomadmatus> mkanyicy: gnome (I hope so)
[21:28] <cryptk> HaPK, what sound card is it?
[21:28] <testelus> :( can anyone help me set up vnc on my linux. ?
[21:28] <Darael> nomadmatus: Hmm, something like "Having trouble booting <release>, getting low-graphics mode when using older kernel" where <release> is which version of Ubuntu you're using.  HTH and good luck!
[21:28] <Devrethman> ZykoticK9: Nope. Vbox sounds like it's more appropriate for what I'm doing, I'm trying it.
[21:28] <mkanyicy> nomadmatus, i am asking because i installed kde on top of gnome and made kdm a default manager and then i got that until i removed kdm and kde altogether
[21:28] <testelus> !vnc
[21:28] <HaPK> cryptk, an AMD ATI SB
[21:28] <lukus> Hello My laptop freezes everytime I try to turn my wireless switch on.  Any suggestions?
[21:29] <testelus> dont press the button :p
[21:29] <cryptk> HaPK, are you plugging the headphones right into the card? or into a front panel or into an external box?
[21:29] <user__> !FreeNX
[21:29] <HaPK> cryptk, into a front panel
[21:29] <nomadmatus> mkanyicy: fuu, how can I uninstall kdm as a default?
[21:29] <user__> cheers testelus
[21:30] <lukus> any other suggestions :)
[21:30] <testelus> user__, yes i'll check it out. thx
[21:30] <nomadmatus> darael: thanks a lot darael, really thanks
[21:30] <cryptk> HaPK do they work if plugged directly into the card?
[21:30] <c3l> I need help getting the sound working in LMMS
[21:30] <Darael> nomadmatus: If you want to revert to GDM, use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[21:30] <HaPK> cryptk, let me check
[21:30] <cryptk> HaPK I have a similar issue, only the jacks directly on the card work, my external box doesn't work in linux, the drivers just don't support it yet
[21:30] <mikobuntu> c3l; your back again :)
[21:31] <cryptk> and mine is a SB Elite-pro
[21:31] <c3l> mikobuntu, :D
[21:31] <nomadmatus> darael: used.. it says it is installed with mistakes
[21:31] <AviDog> Darael: After some forum snooping, I've come to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455656 i'm going to install it; hopefully it will help.
[21:31] <PeterT> Hello
[21:31] <mkanyicy> nomadmatus, you are probably not having kde, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' and choose gdm and reboot
[21:31] <lukus> Hello My laptop freezes everytime I try to turn my wireless switch on.  Any suggestions?
[21:31] <mikobuntu> c3l; ok i will pm you as this channel is way to fast for me ...ok?
[21:31] <greezmunkey> nomadmatus, Look here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344144
[21:31] <HaPK> cryptk, yep, they work by connecting them directly
[21:31] <c3l> mikobuntu, sure :)
[21:32] <guntbert> !html | timmarshall
[21:32] <PeterT> I just did a wubi install of ubuntu and when I restart, I get the selection screen which is badly out of place
[21:32] <PeterT> what happened?
[21:32] <nomadmatus> darael: ou, it has to be make from a root, I'll do it again
[21:32] <PeterT> and how can I fix it?
[21:32] <cryptk> HaPK, the drivers may not support the front panel... but you can run alsamixer in command prompt and check and see if there is a seperate vol slider in there for the front panel
[21:33] <Darael> AviDog: cheers for the feedback - by my own research I've found the GConf key /apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/show_desktop_key which you might be able to set to a mouse button.
[21:34] <nomadmatus> mkanyicy: gdm is broken or not fully install
[21:34] <jozefk> anyone has some nsv to avi script?
[21:34] <nomadmatus> darael: gdm broken or not fully install
[21:34] <PeterT> I just did a wubi install of ubuntu and when I restart, I get the selection screen which is badly out of place
[21:34] <testelus> freenx ? hmm cant vncserver do the same job ?
[21:34] <HaPK> cryptk, oh well, I guess I'll have to wait for an upgrade of the driver...
[21:34] <Darael> AviDog: You should be able to use xev (run it from a terminal) to determine the IDs of your mouse buttons, then set that GConf key I mentioned to "ButtonX" where X is the button number.
[21:35] <HammerHead66> how do I tell linux were a package is to be installed if I have already downloaded it?
[21:35] <greezmunkey> lo
[21:35] <PeterT> I just did a wubi install of ubuntu and when I restart, I get the selection screen which is badly out of place
[21:35] <Darael> nomadmatus: "sudo apt-get -f install" and/or "sudo dpkg --configure -a" should fix any broken packages, between tham.
[21:35] <Darael> HammerHead66: If you're installing from a repository it's already in place, if you aren't, why not?
[21:36] <AviDog> ﻿ Darael: Exactly what I was about to do! Great minds think alike!
[21:36] <nomadmatus> in root or where?
[21:36] <nomadmatus> darael: in root?
[21:36] <nomadmatus> greezmunkey: thats exactly my problem, thanks man
[21:36] <Darael> nomadmatus: The "sudo" bit makes it run as root; if you're already root you can drop "sudo" from the start.
[21:37] <cryptk> Hapk, did you check in alsamixer for a front panel slider?
[21:37] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: I'm installing the 64-bit flashplugin but it won't install right from repository. it tries to load player 9 I need player 10
[21:38] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: I have downloaded the package but it can't find it
[21:38] <Darael> HammerHead66: Ah.  When you say you've downloaded the package, what sort of file is it?  a .deb, a .rpm or a .tar.gz?
[21:38] <HammerHead66> .tar.gz
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> c3l, just as an FYI i just install lmms from repo and sound worked out of the box
[21:38] <Darael> HammerHead66: If you used firefox, it should be in your download history.
[21:38] <testelus> hah. x11vnc solved my problem :)
[21:39] <mix22891> Why i can't type in my languhge?
[21:39] <marc__> is it possible to have a guest os that have it's own IP address on the router? I'm using KVM and Virt-Manager and right now the guest os have a IP (10
[21:39] <marc__> 0
[21:39] <AviDog> Darael: I've confirmed what button it is, by xev and testing with other Compiz things that support mouse mapping. However, upon setting Show_Desktop_Key as Button6, I get nothing. However, when clicking Button6, it scrolls the window left, and Button 7 scrolls it right. I suspect I have a conflict on my hands. I don't need the scrolling functionality, how can I go about disabling that?
[21:39] <Darael> HammerHead66: You'll want to extract it and see what files are in there - there ought to be a .so which you'll need to copy (as root) to wherever it's meant to be.
[21:39] <marc__> is it possible to have a guest os that have it's own IP address on the router? I'm using KVM and Virt-Manager and right now the guest os have a IP (10.0.2.xx) that is not accessible from another computer.
[21:39] <magn3ts> Does anyone know if it is possible to mount Parallels HDD/HDS images in Ubuntu?
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> marc__, it's easy to accomplish with VirtualBox - i have no idea how to do it with KVM/virt-manager - best of luck.
[21:40] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: how do I know were to put it?
[21:40] <Darael> AviDog: if you can't disable it in system->preferences->mouse then I'm not sure...
[21:40] <AviDog> Darael: I haven't tried that. One second..
[21:40] <testelus> marc__,  route the ip on the output interface ?
[21:41] <marc__> ZykoticK9, then can you guide me with VirtualBox, I don't mind switching to VB since it's only for testing purposes :)  do you have a link to a tutorial or something?
[21:41] <mix22891> what 1390 ppl doin here?
[21:42] <ZykoticK9> marc__, i don't often do this (but i love VBox, and it's off topic for this channel) you can PM me if you wish
[21:42] <Darael> HammerHead66: First off, did you get it from the Adobe site?  If not, scrap it and get it from there ;).  If you did, drop the .so as /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so - you'll need to be root.
[21:42] <crdlb> AviDog: show_desktop_key is for a key, not a button; there does not appear to be a show_desktop_button though
[21:43] <PeterT> I just did a wubi install of ubuntu and when I restart, I get the selection screen which is badly out of place
[21:43] <PeterT> what happened?
[21:43] <Jeruvy> crdlb: usually in gnome its the icon in the bottom left
[21:43] <AviDog> crdlb: Any suggestions on how to set it as a button, then?
[21:43] <Darael> crdlb: We went through that, but you can use a button if you fiddle in GConf, it's just that the button is question is also assigned for horizontal scroll
[21:43] <alpalma> hello
[21:43] <mikobuntu> ZykoticK9,  can i ask what distro you are using?
[21:43] <AviDog> crclb: perhaps I could set up a command, that executes a keystroke sequence?
[21:43] <Glock_> !grub
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> mikobuntu, Ubuntu?!?!
[21:43] <twinforce> PeterT: What kind of monitor are you using and how does it connect to your computer?
[21:44] <mikobuntu> ZykoticK9,  sorry i meant karmic etc?
[21:44] <PeterT> twinforce: Hmm, I'm sure about the answers to either of those, how would I check that?
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> mikobuntu, my desktop is running the release that cannot be mentioned in this channel ;)
[21:44] <alpalma> the karmic is stable ?
[21:44] <kaddi> yes
[21:44] <Xpistos> can anyone direct me to a good script to quickly convert avi to iso for dvd? I need to do this on the command line on my server and I am not sure how to do it without a gui
[21:44] <nomadmatus> darael: done. many files removed. what to do now? gdm still broken or not fully installed?? ooo..
[21:44] <mix22891> xxx
[21:44] <mikobuntu> ZykoticK9,  see that is the reason then....
[21:44] <Nebulagirl> Can someone tell me a good way to backup (like ghosting) a netbook?
[21:45] <Darael> nomadmatus: Hmm, interesting... try "aptitude reinstall gdm" as root, then.
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> mikobuntu, reason for what?
[21:45] <usser> Nebulagirl, try clonezilla
[21:45] <mikobuntu> ZykoticK9,  the reason it cannot be mentioned....
[21:45] <alpalma> see the center of software ubuntu, you can find good programs...
[21:45] <Xpistos> Nebulagirl: I agree with usser
[21:45] <mix22891> i have install my languge, and i can't type it
[21:45] <crdlb> Darael: are you sure?
[21:45] <nomadmatus> darael: done. then?
[21:45] <tobidope> I'm having a problem a problem with acerhdf, my wife is angry with me ;)
[21:46] <Darael> crdlb: about what?  Being able to set the button?  Yes, I've done it myself once.
[21:46] <Nebulagirl> I saw clonezilla online.. I will look into it.. How do I alter the boot order on a netbook in ubuntu
[21:46] <tobidope> every 10 seconds the fan starts up
[21:46] <tobidope> really annoying
[21:46] <nomadmatus> darael: gdm can not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled
[21:46] <tobidope> anybody having the same problem with acerhdf?
[21:47] <usser> Nebulagirl, not sure what you mean, boot order as in cdrom, hdd, usb or boot order of installed operating systems?
[21:47] <Glock_> Hello, after a recent update, grub2 isnt loading the menus , but gives me an error message: Term outputs disabled
[21:47] <testelus> Nebulagirl, edit grub if its os you are talking about
[21:47] <Darael> nomadmatus: In that case, "aptitude install gdm" and see what it complains about.  It'll be a dependency problem.
[21:47] <Nebulagirl> yes..the netbook has no cd.. how do you know the boot order?
[21:47] <alpalma> nebula, yes you can configure the boot...
[21:48] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: for some reason it won't let me extract it to were it needs to go
[21:48] <tobidope> anybody using an apsire one here?
[21:48] <ph8> does anyone know a good program for taking an AVI file in and producing a collage?
[21:48] <testelus> Nebulagirl, is the bios. press F2 or del on power up
[21:48] <alpalma> no, hp....
[21:48] <Nebulagirl> I am new to ubuntu....is it in OOok F2
[21:49] <Nebulagirl> thank you!
[21:49] <iWolf> Nebulagirl: Welcome
[21:49] <alpalma> nebula , you mean order of operating system..?
[21:49] <nomadmatus> darael: could not resolve 'dk.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:49] <Darael> HammerHead66: You're not root.  drop the .so somewhere you know and fire up a terminal, then run "sudo mv /path/to/flashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" entering your password when prompted.
[21:49] <mix22891> any help?
[21:49] <Darael> nomadmatus: You'll need an internet connection.
[21:49] <qweasdd> hello, I'm searching around for a way to use 'ifconfig' to check if a NIC is in full/half duplex mode - I know I can use other tools like ethtool and mii-tool but it's not possible to install these tools, any alternative options with ifconfig?
[21:49] <mix22891> 1300+ppl here and no help
[21:50] <jp--> hi guys. how can I securely shutdown ubuntu from the command line? when I do "sudo reboot" it's always checking the ext2 partition with fsck and rebooting linux to fix them, so how can I shutdown it by secury umount the deviced so the won't get errors and make the system reboot  while booting it up again
[21:50] <jp--> thanks!
[21:50] <docmax> anyone has an idea why adobe flash is consuming so much cpu performance in fullscreen???
[21:50] <nomadmatus> darael: how to check/do it?
[21:50] <alpalma> halt
[21:50] <Xpistos> mix22891: settle down. Ask you question and give people some time
[21:50] <Oinkoinkoink> I need help plz
[21:50] <Oinkoinkoink> so bad
[21:50] <Darael> nomadmatus: How do you normally connect?
[21:50] <nomadmatus> wireless
[21:50] <nomadmatus> darael: wireless
[21:51] <Darael> !ask Oinkoinkoink
[21:51] <ph8> jp--:  You mean like 'shutdown -h now' (shutdown computer immediately)
[21:51] <ph8> ?
[21:51] <AviDog> Does anyone know how to disable extra mouse buttons being used to scroll horozontally?
[21:51] <Dubhein> grub or lilo?
[21:51] <Darael> !ask | Oinkoinkoink
[21:51] <Devrethman> mix22891: What do you even need help with? I've seen you QQing about the lack of help 3 or 4 times, but never seen your question.
 I mean shutdown with secure umount of all systems!
[21:51] <Darael> nomadmatus: You'll need a wired connection.
[21:51] <mix22891> scroll up
[21:51] <jp--> it keeps fsck the ext2 root partitoin and then forcing the system to reboot to load the repaired partition
[21:51] <ph8> i'm not sure secure is the right word, presumably you mean 'proper' unmount - shutdown should do that fine unless there's a problem with your mount/unmount scripts
[21:51] <mix22891> i have asked this 2 times
[21:51] <ph8> fsck'ing of partitions is usually on boot
[21:51] <Devrethman> mix22891: No.
[21:52] <Xpistos> Devrethman: I think it is something about a language typing issue
[21:52] <nomadmatus> darael: need 5 min. will you be still here?
[21:52] <Xpistos> mix22891: Do you want help or do you want to be kicked?
[21:52] <Darael> nomadmatus: Probably!
[21:52] <mix22891> kicked
[21:52] <Xpistos> nice
[21:52] <Devrethman> Well, that was easy.
[21:52] <nomadmatus> darael: that would be nice man, send you postcard afterwards..5min
[21:52] <Midnight_Owl> Hey all my sounds not working when i click on the sound icon i get this, No volume control ("GStreamer plugins and/or devices found") - any ideas of what i could do?
[21:53] <Oinkoinkoink> Ok, i have Mandriva and Windows 7 on my computer. Yesterday, i decided to erase Mandriva because i dont use it anymore.  So what i went and erase the partition. But when i wanted to start my computer today i got an Error 22 by Grub. So i went and download the Mandriva One cd. I boot but i cannot choose the rescue mode. I mean, i have 2 option, boot from harddrive or boot from cd. Help
[21:53] <bombel> When I press a key (from keyboard) continuously, the mouse doesnt respond . When I leave the key, the mouse works again. It seems that paralelism between mouse and keyboard is not working well. In order to use the mouse I mustn't be pressing any key (keyboard) continuously. How can I solve this problem ?
[21:53] <iguanamin> foo
[21:54] <iguanamin> more seekers than helpers?
[21:54] <mix22891> you asked ppl if they what to be kicked out the room?
[21:54] <mix22891> very smart
[21:54] <docmax> anyone has an idea why adobe flash is consuming so much cpu performance in fullscreen???
[21:54] <Devrethman> Oinkoinkoink: Are you trying to get rid of everythign but windows, or do you have some other linux that you need grub for?
[21:54] <guntbert> Oinkoinkoink: this channel is for ubuntu support -
[21:54] <iguanamin> I need help with my ATI graphics card
[21:54] <Devrethman> Oinkoinkoink: Also what guntbert said.
[21:54] <Oinkoinkoink> I know but the Mandriva channel is dead. I only need windows.
[21:55] <Devrethman> Oinkoinkoink: Use the windows installtion disk and run a startup repair.
[21:55] <Oinkoinkoink> I dont have one
[21:55] <iguanamin> it's brand new but won't run 3D in 64-bit 9.10
[21:55] <iguanamin> I've tried all the drivers/combinations I can find
[21:55] <Devrethman> Get one?
[21:55] <turbowei> mix22891, is this all u want? <mix22891> im tryin to install flashplayer to firefox addon. how do i do that ?
[21:55] <Oinkoinkoink> oups
[21:56] <turbowei> sudo apt-get install adobe_flashplugin
[21:56] <greezmunkey> mix22891, Try here:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
 ive slove that one
[21:56] <Devrethman> Can't you just apt-get install flashplugin-installer?
[21:56] <iguanamin> I always install flash from the .deb package on the web
[21:56] <Xpistos> Oinkoinkoink: what kind of system do you have
[21:56] <mix22891> i can't type in my lunguge
[21:56] <usuario> e
[21:56] <Oinkoinkoink> WGat do you mean
[21:56] <kaddi> Oinkoinkoink: you can download the repair envrionnement for win7 here:http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[21:56] <turbowei> what language?
[21:56] <bombel> When I press a key (from keyboard) continuously, the mouse doesnt respond . When I leave the key, the mouse works again. It seems that paralelism between mouse and keyboard is not working well. In order to use the mouse I mustn't be pressing any key (keyboard) continuously. How can I solve this problem ?
[21:56] <iguanamin> Just go to Youtube and try to watch a video and then click through when it says "you need flash"
[21:57] <turbowei> European language and east asian language are very different.
[21:57] <iguanamin> it takes you to adobe site and then choose the .deb package
[21:57] <Xpistos> Oinkoinkoink: Kadi has a better idea then I did
[21:57] <Oinkoinkoink> i need to burn it or wat
[21:57] <burkey> Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal  server in the ubuntu terminal
[21:57] <iguanamin> who is the graphics card expert here?
[21:57] <Oinkoinkoink> i have windows 7 profession edition
[21:58] <TheMusicGuy> I just accidentally rm'd some files in /etc/apache2/mods-available (userdir stuff)
[21:58] <TheMusicGuy> Help?
[21:58] <turbowei> TheMusicGuy, reinstall apache2?
[21:58] <Devrethman> TheMusicGuy: backup /etc/apache2 and reinstall it maybe? There's probably better ways.
[21:58] <TheMusicGuy> Tried that, didn't work
[21:58] <greezmunkey> TheMusicGuy, let me guess, no backup?
[21:58] <turbowei> That seems to easier and most logic way.
[21:58] <docmax> anyone has an idea why adobe flash is consuming so much cpu performance in fullscreen???
[21:58] <sherringham> TheMusicGuy: sudo aptitude reinstall apache2
[21:58] <Devrethman> TheMusicGuy: is it userdir stuff that you wrote?
[21:59] <TheMusicGuy> sherringham: reinstalling does not restore the files
[21:59] <AviDog> Anyone know how to set Show Desktop (Compiz) to activate with a mouse button?
[21:59] <TheMusicGuy> Devrethman: no, nothing I wrote
[21:59] <Devrethman> TheMusicGuy: Cause if reinstalling it doesn't put them back, they came from somewhere other than the ubuntu package
[21:59] <Darael> docmax: It's a known issue, disabling compiz will probably solve it - unfortunately there's not masses we can do about it.
[21:59] <Devrethman> AviDog: isn't there an option for it in ccsm?
[22:00] <AviDog> Devrethman: Nope, not even in gconf!
[22:00] <Devrethman> or does ccsm even exist anymore, I'm so out of the loop on that stuff.
[22:00] <ubuntujenkins> I would like to install a program from dvd in a chroot enviroment so that is is pre installed when I install with an ubuntu custom install disk.
[22:00] <TheMusicGuy> I thought that the userdir stuff shipped standard with ubuntu's apache2 pacakage
[22:00] <AviDog> Devrethman: Well i'm on 8.04 if it matters, and its CCSM. Don't know if it was added in newer CCSMs
[22:01] <greezmunkey> TheMusicGuy, what were the files for?
[22:01] <jepster> I cannot uninstall my mysql-server. I'm always getting the message, that my package has bugs.
[22:01] <TheMusicGuy> if the files are missing, why would they not be created when reinstalling?
[22:01] <TheMusicGuy> greezmunkey: they enable per-user sites
[22:01] <macman_> so im trying to get udftools installed .. i installed it and i edited my /dev/defaults/udftools .. i put in /dev/sr0 in my devices and i get a new error http://pastie.org/823711 any ideas on how to fix ?
[22:01] <Devrethman> AviDog: It's not in the ccsm I have either. Wierd. I could have sworn there was an option for it.
[22:01] <TheMusicGuy> like localhost/~username
[22:01] <Darael> AviDog: It's not in Karmic's CCSM, so I doubt it was in Intrepid's or Jaunty's.
[22:02] <greezmunkey> TheMusicGuy, was that function working when you first installed, or did you add something else later?
[22:02] <AviDog> @Darael @Devrethman. Yup, it is weird. Sigh. Any way to like, add it in myself?
[22:02] <Flannel> TheMusicGuy: It's installed, may or may not be enabled by default.  But if it's not there, you certainly deleted it.
[22:03] <TheMusicGuy> it's not enabled by default. You enable it by making symlinks from /etc/apache2/mods-available to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[22:03] <Darael> AviDog: Probably not easily.
[22:03] <matus> darael: on
[22:03] <AviDog> ﻿Darael: No :P
[22:03] <Flannel> TheMusicGuy: you want to purge/reinstall apache2.2-common
[22:03] <Oinkoinkoink> How do i join another channel
[22:03] <macman_> hey guys what is that called when you try to rip a dvd and it wants to know if you have a certin kind of cdrom .. DRM or something ?
[22:03] <Devrethman> AviDog. Darael: How is it accessed normally? From what I can tell, there's a plugin for it, but no way to make it happen.
[22:03] <Flannel> Oinkoinkoink: /join #channel
[22:03] <Darael> Oinkoinkoink: /join <channelname>
[22:04] <AviDog> ﻿Devrethman: Its normally access by hotkey or screen corner/edge.
[22:04] <matus> darael: wired
[22:04] <Oinkoinkoink> #mandriva
[22:04] <greezmunkey> Flannel rocks
[22:04] <Darael> Devrethman: Most people don't do "show desktop" by a mouse button - it's an unusual case they never accounted for.
[22:05] <AviDog> ﻿Devrethman: since thats the case, should I not be able to set some macro to execute that hotkey, and have THAT launched on mouse button?
[22:05] <Darael> matus: Ah, you're the guy I was talking to earlier?
[22:05] <Flannel> TheMusicGuy: to enable, its easier to sudo a2enmod [modulename] (apache 2 ENable MODule) instead of symlinking manually
[22:05] <tron`> meeehhhhhhh
[22:05] <matus> darael: yees, sorry
[22:05] <sherringham> TheMusicGuy: try doing a "purge" (backup any apache config you have first) - then an "install"
[22:05] <matus> dependacy problem..
[22:05] <Darael> matus: No probs, I was just confused for a moment.
[22:05] <tron`> anyone else installed AVG and it hasn't appeared under Applications -> Accessories?
[22:05] <timmarshall> how many viruses has there been for linux??
[22:05] <TheMusicGuy> Flannel: sherringham tried I purge/reinstall, the files are still missing
[22:05] <tron`> lol idd
[22:05] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: for some reason it keeps saying the target is not a directory
[22:06] <Darael> matus: right, so now that you have a wired connection can you try "aptitude install gdm"?
[22:06] <tron`> but im super paranoid
[22:06] <Flannel> TheMusicGuy: you purged apache2.2-common?
[22:06] <TheMusicGuy> oh, no, wait
[22:06] <Darael> HammerHead66: Ah, yes, it might do that.  Scrap the bit after the final / and it ought to work.
[22:06] <Xpistos> I am having alittle trouble with remote desktop. Can someone give me a hand? It keeps coming up that I can make any changes but it is not on view only. If I close a window I see no change until I close the vnc and then reopen it.
[22:07] <Craig_Dem> Is there a command that will allow me to only output the first x amount of characters?
[22:07] <Xpistos> this is just freaky. I am sitting in front of her compy and I can see the mouse moving but when I open a window it opens on hers, but I don't see it on mine?
[22:07] <TheMusicGuy> Flannel: yeah, that did it
[22:07] <TheMusicGuy> Thanks
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> Craig_Dem, characters or lines?  check out the "head" command if it's lines
[22:07] <Flannel> TheMusicGuy: That's because those files are actually in apache2.2-common, not apache2
[22:08] <TheMusicGuy> Apparently. :)
[22:08] <Craig_Dem> Characters.
[22:08] <Darael> Craig_Dem: you can use the "head" command for lines, not sure about characters.
[22:08] <greezmunkey> Xpistos, type sudo iptables -L to see if you are blocking VNC
[22:09] <Craig_Dem> I am using the kernel rss feed with a rss script that returns the latest kernal in a format I can add to conky, it says 2.6.33-rc8: mainline
[22:09] <TheMusicGuy> Now I have to reinstall the apache mods that got uninstalled though
[22:09] <Craig_Dem> I only want 2.6.33-rc8
[22:09] <Xpistos> greezmunkey: on the server or the viewer?
[22:09] <Devrethman> AviDog:IIRC wherever there's an option for a hotkey in ccsm, you can just type like <Button3> or whatever (check the other mouse button things) and it would work, but I don't even seen wher eyou'd stick the hotkey.
[22:09] <matus> darael: how am I sure Im wired on?
[22:09] <matus> darael: otherwise it said 'failed to fetch '...esound/libes-alsa0...
[22:09] <chicoboia> cpu MHz		: 1596.000... (my processor is a core 2 duo 2.4ghz). Why isn't it running in the nominal frequency?
[22:09] <Darael> timmarshall: I forget the exact number, but there have been <100 total that would affect a desktop system and there's none in the wild at the moment, according to the Wildlist.
[22:09] <greezmunkey> Xpistos, both!
[22:09] <Xpistos> check
[22:09] <Devrethman> chicoboia: speedstep?
[22:10] <matus> darael: how am I sure Im wired on? otherwise it said 'failed to fetch '...esound/libes-alsa0...
[22:10] <chicoboia> what'd that be?
[22:10] <Darael> matus: You could try pinging a server you know is up?  "ping -c 5 google.com" for instance.
[22:10] <Yionel> :join #ubuntu-fr-lyon
[22:10] <Devrethman> chicoboia: A thing that slows your comp down when it's not being fully used to conserve power.
[22:10] <iguanamin> is Debian the better option for getting an ATI Radeon card configured with 3D?
[22:11] <Devrethman> chicoboia: Try running something that takes tons of processing power and check it again
[22:11] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael: is there any other way of moving the file other than using terminal?
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> chicoboia, add the "CPU Frequency Monitor" to your panel then you can change what speed the CPU runs at
[22:11] <iguanamin> I'm running an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200
[22:11] <Xpistos> greezmunkey: nope: IN FORWARD AND OUT all say nothing on either system
[22:11] <Darael> HammerHead66: Yes - press alt+f2 and enter "gksu nautilus" and you'll get a root file manager, but be very very careful.
[22:11] <mix22891> xxxxxxxxx
[22:12] <jcarter1> hello everyone - i am wondering if someome here might be able to help me with a problem i have: i am using a vm on my xp laptop on which i have ubuntu 9.10 running. sound works fine, but i just cant get my microphone working. i tried to follow some steop by step helps i found online, but nothing helped
[22:12] <Flannel> iguanamin: They should be both the same.  The problem with older ATIs is that ATI itself doesn't support them.  But there may be (depending on your version, I'm not up to date on the details) free versions of the 3d drivers available in the repos
[22:12] <matus> darael: unknow host
[22:12] <AviDog> ﻿Devrethman: Yeah, we found it in gconf
[22:12] <iguanamin> I can't get it running properly in Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit - it's a brand new computer
[22:12] <Darael> matus: Sounds like you have a network problem, then.
[22:12] <greezmunkey> Xpistos, then VNC itself should be the issue, there are several "performance" options you can check there.
[22:12] <turbowei> jcarter1, trying to use a mic on a VM?
[22:12] <iguanamin> yeah, I've tried fglrx (xorg-fglrs-driver)
[22:13] <iguanamin> no workie
[22:13] <jcarter1> turbowei -yes
[22:13] <iguanamin> plus it's a brand-new ATI - or at least I would think it is, you never know with HP, I suppose
[22:13] <chicoboia> iguanamin ; hw is a bitch, ain't it?
[22:13] <matus> darael: unknown host
[22:13] <iguanamin> heheh
[22:13] <Xpistos> greezmunkey: I know they issue isn't with the viewer because I can see and control other systems fine
[22:13] <turbowei> I dunno, I am not sure that is gonna work, which is one thing i dislike VM about.
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> jcarter1, if you're using VirtualBox I'd suggest asking in #vbox
[22:13] <iguanamin> there's too much!
[22:13] <Darael> matus: Sounds like you have a network problem, then.
[22:13] <Xpistos> greezmunkey: it seems to be controlling this one.
[22:13] <jcarter1> ZykoticK9 ok i will
[22:14] <iguanamin> sigh
[22:14] <mix22891> Wanda
[22:14] <Devrethman> sudo aptitude
[22:14] <Devrethman> Wait a minute, wrong terminal
[22:14] <Random832> how do i force it to allow to hibernate even when i have upgraded the kernel from the package manager? I will boot with the old kernel when i resume
[22:14] <iguanamin> I have USB port issues too
[22:15] <iguanamin> I can plug in my flash drive but X doesn't recognize or mount it --- I have to go through command line
[22:15] <oinkoinkoink> help
[22:15] <Devrethman> iguanamin: at least yours aren't due to a partially melted southbridge. Mine are :)
[22:15] <matus> darael: wired works, any way without it..?
[22:15] <iguanamin> heheh I've been up til 2 everynight this week learning tons of command line operations :-)
[22:15] <oinkoinkoink> I need help bad guys, i cannot access to windows 7, i wanna reinstall Mandriva but i only have the choice to format everything
[22:15] <matus> darael: wired work, but not on a computer
[22:15] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: did you try that thing that somebody linked you earlier?
[22:15] <oinkoinkoink> Yea
[22:16] <Devrethman> and?
[22:16] <Darael> matus: Not unless you have your GUI already up - there's no easy way to get a wifi connection from the command line.
[22:16] <oinkoinkoink> But im on the live cd
[22:16] <oinkoinkoink> Of Mandrica
[22:16] <Serraphyn> I am just wondering if there is something I've not tried as ubuntu is nice and all but very very little support for games.  The games I play aren't that advanced and they seem to be REALLY slow in ubuntu.  Is ubuntu just not a OS for gamers?
[22:16] <oinkoinkoink> Mandriva
[22:16] <oinkoinkoink> I dont find the burner
[22:16] <FloodBot2> oinkoinkoink: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <oinkoinkoink> To burn the disk
[22:16] <macman_> somone mind helping me configure udftools .. i tried but i keep getting errors
[22:16] <Devrethman> some liveCDs have the option to mount them in ram, so you could eject them and then use the burner.
[22:16] <macman_> right now i get this http://pastie.org/823711
[22:16] <Darael> Serraphyn: It's not for /windows/ gamers - we have our own games, some of which are very nice, but a lot of games designed for Windows are likely to be unreliable.
[22:16] <iguanamin> everyone I try to encourage to use Ubuntu all want their machines for gaming - and linux has a rep in that genre
[22:16] <infid> how come putting 'Xterm*background: black' in ~/.Xdefaults doesn't change xterm's bg color, but 'URxvt*background: black' does for changing urxvt?
[22:17] <iguanamin> heheh, I just want compiz and cairo-dock but can't even seem to get them to work cause of this stupid ATI card
[22:17] <Devrethman> iguanamin: Yeah, linux gaming does not work so well.
[22:17] <Devrethman> unless you really like tuxracer.
[22:17] <kaddi> Devrethman: does ubuntu have this option by chance?
[22:17] <iguanamin> if you want games, buy a wii !
[22:17] <iguanamin> heheh
[22:17] <seanbrystone> using Ubuntu 9.10 is there any program that i could use that would automatically backup a folder/file on a blank DVD every hour/day? I know theres a ton of backup programs, but none i know backs up to cd/dvd
[22:17] <Serraphyn> Darael: What games are there for ubuntu that are decent? I don't like shooter games, I'm more an MMO type person.
[22:17] <Devrethman> kaddi: It might, I'm not sure, I haven't checked.
[22:17] <oinkoinkoink> Mandriva suck, stupid distribution
[22:18] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: I agree with you there...
[22:18] <Xpistos> greezmunkey: It is like If I try to open a terminal, it comes up on the server but not the viewer. I can type in the terminal from the viewer, but I don't see anything on my screen, I can see my typing in real time on the server. if I close the viewer and reopen it, they I see like what ever is on the server. It is like I am looking at snapshots but can control the realtime screen even if I can see it
[22:18] <matus> darael: but network works, sure, just not on the computer
[22:18] <iguanamin> heheh my favorite game is SameGnome :D
[22:18] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: what happens when you reinstall grub?
[22:18] <oinkoinkoink> I cant
[22:18] <Darael> Serraphyn: I rather enjoyed Regnum (I'll see if I can find you a link) but there aren't any MMOs in the repos AFAIK.
[22:18] <oinkoinkoink> I dont know how to do it
[22:18] <oinkoinkoink> Im on the live CD of Mandriva, i cannot boot to the hard drive
[22:18] <Devrethman> iguanamin: I wish my tastes were that simple ;) I'm stuck over here being addicted to Aion.
[22:18] <oinkoinkoink> Im stuck
[22:18] <Darael> matus: You need to get the machine in question onto the network.
[22:19] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: do you know which grub version you are using?
[22:19] <Spear> Question: how do you escape symbols so that my commands will run
[22:19] <Spear> for example the character !
[22:19] <iguanamin> Since I migrated out of Windoze I haven't had time to look for games - I'm still trying to figure out Quanta Plus as a Dreamweaver alternative
[22:19] <oinkoinkoink> Not really
[22:19] <Serraphyn> Spear, \!
[22:19] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: We don't know anything about what's available on the mandriva liveCD. I haven't touched one since it was called "Mandrake 7" If it has some sort of grub-install or the grub commandline, look into that
[22:19] <Spear> ty Serraphyn
[22:19] <Devrethman> you might be able to fix it.
[22:19] <matus> darael: problem is in the computer, any help...?
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> i think i dont have choice but to format every things
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> Stupid mandriva
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> Im gonna loose all my stuff
[22:20] <Devrethman> Use the liveCD to back it up.
[22:20] <seanbrystone> using Ubuntu 9.10 is there any program that i could use that would automatically backup a folder/file on a blank DVD every hour/day? I know theres a ton of backup programs, but none i know backs up to cd/dvd
[22:20] <Devrethman> I've never seen a liveCD that doesn't have "mount" and "cp"
[22:20] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: and how do you plan on reformatting without a windows installation disk?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I will install only Mandriva
[22:21] <luist> hey is there any tool that will let me access vevo website? its only allowing us/ca
[22:21] <Spear> seanbrystone: why not use a thumb drive?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I dont know
[22:21] <iguanamin> is there a channel or forum that anyone recommends to get more suggestions on configuring my ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4600?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I want to burn the damn cd of restoration of Windows 7
[22:21] <Darael> seanbrystone: If you can find a command-line cd-burning app, use cron and a script?  Not easy, not user-friendly, but very powerful indeed.
[22:21] <iguanamin> I've already tried ubuntuforums and linuxquestions - dud
[22:21] <matus> darael: network works, wired, but not on the computer, can not find it, or whatever...
[22:21] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: Do you seriously not have access to another computer or a friend who has one and can burn you a windows recovery CD or a ubuntu CD or... SOMETHING?
[22:21] <seanbrystone> Spear, hmmm good point
[22:22] <oinkoinkoink> nop seriously, i leave really far from the city
[22:22] <crazy2k_> What is the right way to install a version of some package which is only in Lucid? (I'm on Karmic Koala now)
[22:22] <Serraphyn> matus, do you have network card module loading?
[22:22] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: Or you could use that liveCD to create a bootable flashstick, which you could then use to create another liveCD.
[22:22] <seanbrystone> Darael, yeah, i know that route, but was hoping for a GUI, im not a scripter and not familar with CLI yet to be able to do something like that
[22:22] <seanbrystone> thanks though :)
[22:22] <Darael> matus: Your only other option is to download the package and all its dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com on another machine, copy them with a USB drive or similar, and "sudo dpkg -i" them
[22:22] <Spear> Devrethman: shipit? :P
[22:23] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: It'd be kind of a pain, and depending on how valuable the data you have is may or may not be worth it.
[22:23] <Darael> seanbrystone: I don't think anyone's written one with a GUI frontend that does backup to optical media, sorry.  I might be wrong, of course.
[22:23] <oinkoinkoink> Anyway. The Mandriva channel is dead. Nobody is answering at nothing
[22:23] <oinkoinkoink> Its really pathetic.
[22:24] <guntbert> Devrethman: its nice how you try to help oinkoinkoink - but that conversation is really cluttering the channel - and neither mandriva nor windows are on topic here :)
[22:24] <matus_> darael: what can be wrong?
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> ok ok guntbert
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> take it eazy
[22:24] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: you could make a bootable flash drive as instructed here: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd-on-usb-disk and after booting from the flash drive you could burn anotehr cd possibly
[22:24] <Darael> matus_: I'm afriad networking issues aren't really something I'm familiar with, sorry.
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> Im gonna try
[22:25] <Spear> anyone know of any god command line afp clients?
[22:25] <matus_> darael: it says unknown host..
[22:25] <Spear> s/god/good
[22:25] <Devrethman> Spear: AFP as in Apple Filesharing?
[22:25] <Spear> yes Devrethman
[22:25] <Darael> matus_: You said, but I'm afraid I don't know how to fix your problem.
[22:25] <oinkoinkoink> I think im gonna download a Cd burner
[22:25] <teage> i am making a launcher like this "cd /pentest/spoofing/ADM" ...Unfortunately it tells me "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" , what am i doing wrong?
[22:25] <oinkoinkoink> Any good cd burner on KDE^
[22:25] <HammerHead66> ﻿Darael:man this thing is being harder than I rember
[22:26] <Spear> smb is failing for me
[22:26] <matus_> darael: what can be wrong? it says unknown host...
[22:26] <Supertanker> oinkoinkoink, k3b!
[22:26] <Devrethman> Spear: I remember looking into it once, and I don't think I found any, I ended up enabling windows filesharing on the mac and used mount.cifs
[22:26] <Darael> matus_: I just don't know, you'll need to ask the channel at large again.
[22:26] <oinkoinkoink> Tank you guys for helping me
[22:26] <Spear> Devrethman: howto on mount.cifs -- i cant make it work on 9.10
[22:26] <Supertanker> Spear, is smbfs installed?
[22:26] <Spear> yes Supertanker
[22:27] <Supertanker> Hmmm
[22:27] <Devrethman> Spear: You might also look into sshfs. It's what I use now.
[22:27] <matus_> darael: thanks man
[22:27] <Spear> Devrethman: its an AEBS
[22:27] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: k3b
[22:28] <Spear> bed for me ill fix it tomorrow
[22:28] <Spear> nn all
[22:28] <darolu> !info
[22:29] <hellyeah_> hey
[22:29] <Happehwalrus> I was going to install ubuntu 10.04 alpha 2, but then the install failed. Everything is fine except Ubuntu 9.10 Software Center was deleted. Help?
[22:29] <hellyeah_> what is the channel for cairo-dock
[22:30] <luist> hey is there any tool that will let me access vevo website? its only allowing us/ca
[22:30] <hellyeah_> my cairo-dock didnt start
[22:30] <guntbert> !lucid | Happehwalrus
[22:30] <darolu> Happehwalrus: make sure your username is still in the sudoers list (you have admin powers)
[22:31] <pelandrit> i need to install an alternate version from usb, i tried things like unetbootin and an externall usb dvd without sucess, any idea?
[22:31] <darolu> !usb > pelandrit
[22:31] <bobbytek2> How come vim is the default editor and not emacs?
[22:31] <JULinuxUser> I'm having a zenity issue. I made an install.sh file and you can look at it here: http://pastebin.com/m185856f2 along with the error on line 42.
[22:32] <blakkheim> bobbytek2: because it's better :)
[22:32] <bobbytek2> How come emacs isn't installed?
[22:32] <darolu> bobbytek2: Ubuntu comes with nano... it doesn't come with either vim or emacs
[22:32] <jrib> bobbytek2: because vim is so much better.
[22:32] <mix22891> why i dsent get an unsowre?
[22:33] <bobbytek2> darolu: mine came with vim :)
[22:33] <guntbert> !patience | mix22891
[22:33] <darolu> blakkheim, jrib: although I do like Vi & Vim better too, I don't think we can say vim or emacs is better than the other, is a matter of taste, emacs have some very neat stuff too
[22:33] <darolu> bobbytek2: did you get the DVD?
[22:33] <jrib> bobbytek2: it just comes with vim-tiny, mainly because vi is a pretty standard unix utility
[22:33] <bobbytek2> vim-tiny? there are multiple vims?
[22:34] <jrib> darolu: yeah, I was just teasing bobbytek2
[22:34] <bobbytek2> didn't know that
[22:34] <ionut> hi guys.can anyone help me , how can i shrink my volume (i have just one volume) is 160 gbyte .
[22:34] <neezer> is there a size limit to certain types of multimedia files?
[22:34] <Darael> If we're discussing editors... ed FTW!  it's the standard unix editor!  It has only one error message!
[22:34] <jrib> bobbytek2: it's just a trimmed down vim.  If you want emacs, just install it :)
[22:34] <bobbytek2> I was just curious as to the rationale
[22:34] <jrib> neezer: not really, why?
[22:34] <JULinuxUser> This is more accurate. http://pastebin.com/m124d6861
[22:35] <Darael> ionut: Boot from a live CD and use GParted (system->administration->partition editor)
[22:35] <neezer> I have been using handbrake and experimenting with quality of mp4. my larger files wouldn't play on my ps3....something about unsupported format.
[22:35] <HammerHead66> is there anyone that can help me install flash player 10 for 64-bit linux?
[22:35] <neezer> when I re-rip at a lower quality (smaller size) I don't have the problem.
[22:35] <kumakuma> hi guys. i'm having problems with the newest stable version of ubuntu (9.10) not recognizing my onboard ethernet card. this being my wife's computer, i don't know how to tell what kind of ethernet card it is. can anybody tell me how to determine the type and install a driver to get it working? any help is appreciated.
[22:35] <kop_> vi is more like ubiquitous , that is being part of nearly all unix linux bsd distros since the Pleistocene era
[22:35] <ionut> Darael: isn't there another solution?
[22:35] <jrib> HammerHead66: go to adobe's site, download the tar.gz for 64bit, drop it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/, restart your browser
[22:35] <meowbuntu> hi i cant read access a site properly says i need firefox but thats what i'm using can anypone help.. what plugin do i need to view it its kinda urgent. http://imagebin.org/84706
[22:35] <Devrethman> kumakuma: lspci
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: Partition editing should be done while the computer's off, to minimse the risk of corruption.
[22:36] <mix22891> any1.i can't type in my languge
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: I mean, while the disk is not in use.
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: Hence, a live CD is the best option.
[22:37] <jrib> meowbuntu: try "user agent switcher" but it's probably because they want to install some plugin that they haven't developed for linux so it may not work anyway
[22:37] <JULinuxUser> http://pastebin.com/m3768d08c
[22:37] <Darael> mix22891: what's your language?
[22:37] <mix22891> hebrew
[22:37] <JULinuxUser> Can some one look at that link and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[22:37] <ionut> Darael: so i have to run a live cd. then what ?
[22:37] <jrib> JULinuxUser: summarize your issue in your question
[22:37] <ionut> Darael: i have never did this befor
[22:37] <meowbuntu> !ati
[22:37] <kumakuma> okay. i'll look up 1spci and see if that works. thanks.
[22:38] <kop_> lspci | grep net
[22:38] <Devrethman> kumakuma: just run it in a termainal and look for network stuff
[22:38] <Devrethman> or use grep.
[22:38] <Darael> ionut: Once you're in a live CD, go to system->administration->partition editor and it should be reasonably self-explanatory.
[22:38] <kop_> kumakuma, a little more specific :D
[22:38] <JULinuxUser> jrib I think I did that already. I wrote a file called Finish_Install.sh and I've always been able to execute it before without a problem but now every time I launch it it crashes. If you read http://pastebin.com/m3768d08c you will see what I am talking about.
[22:38] <meowbuntu> jrib, is that a plugin or something
[22:38] <ionut> Darael: yes.i think i'll succed
[22:38] <jrib> meowbuntu: it's an extension...
[22:38] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however on this laptop it claims to have 6 output channels and 0 input channels, and on another laptop I have, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't understand why one laptop claims one configuration and the other a different config... Both laptops running ka
[22:38] <BlackDalek> rmic, but one was a fresh install and the other upgraded from ubuntu 8.04. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[22:38] <jolaren> How can I monitor my computer temperatures in ubuntu server? I ran acpi -v but it gives me output 0 processors of 0
[22:38] <ionut> Darael: tnx for the help !
[22:39] <kumakuma> scuse me. lspci --
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, on this page i document how to install Firefox under wine using winetricks perhaps it will work with that, good luck http://sites.google.com/site/lucidlynxdreams/how-tos/cbc-video-working-on-ubuntu
[22:39] <ionut> bye
[22:39] <Darael> ionut: No probs, happy to help, good luck!
[22:39] <HammerHead66> ﻿jrib: tried it didn't work
[22:39] <jrib> !sensors | jolaren
[22:39] <ionut> tnx,bye
[22:39] <teage> how do you create a launcher that will cd to a certain directory automatic?
[22:39] <kop_> kumakuma, lspci | grep net
[22:39] <jrib> HammerHead66: you likely downloaded the wrong plug-in
[22:40] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, dont need a wine install of firefox its a natve linux application
[22:40] <JULinuxUser> Am I in the wrong room to ask these questions?
[22:40] <JULinuxUser> #bash
[22:40] <kumakuma> nothing comes up when i grep net.
[22:40] <hitek88> Hello, I am trying to change sambas /var/www location to another location, but I keep getting permission denied? Can anyone help me out. Do i need to change different folder permissions?
[22:40] <jrib> JULinuxUser: yes
[22:40] <kop_> kumakuma, just copy and paste to the command line
[22:40] <HammerHead66> ﻿jrib: I got it from here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[22:40] <jrib> HammerHead66: that's not 64bit
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, aren't you having the Firefox issue with that site?  did i past to the wrong person?
[22:41] <jrib> HammerHead66: try "flash 10 64bit linux" in google
[22:41] <kumakuma> i typed the command in as "lspci | grep net" if that's what you mean. but nothing came up.
[22:41] <HammerHead66> ﻿ jrib: I got to it from this site http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
[22:41] <jrib> HammerHead66: why are you telling me different things?
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, it was you -- the error probably is "not yet available for your current operating system" nothing to do with Firefox really - in wine you'll "probably" be able to get that plugin
[22:42] <kumakuma> i'm on a different computer right now, because i can't get the internet to work on the other computer without the ethernet card.
[22:42] <meowbuntu> o i c
[22:42] <kumakuma> but i typed it in on that different computer.
[22:42] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, i only got a 40gig hdd atm so i'll pass thanks
[22:43] <hitek88> no help?
[22:43] <jrib> !helpme | hitek88
[22:43] <meowbuntu> !ask hitek88
[22:43] <Concretesledge> anyone know if i can install OSX
[22:43] <meowbuntu> !help | hitek88
[22:44] <jrib> Concretesledge: that's not really an ubuntu question
[22:44] <HammerHead66> ﻿ jrib: ok first I went to this site http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html witch lead me to this download load center see right under the first paragraph?
[22:44] <Concretesledge> jrib with UNETbootin?
[22:44] <kop_> kumakuma, dmesg | grep net | less   to see if any net driver is installed
[22:44] <meowbuntu> Concretesledge, find the #mac or #osx channels on irc. i dont know where they are
[22:44] <jrib> HammerHead66: that's not my question.  Before you told me you got the plug-in from somewhere else.  I asked why.  If you aren't sure where you got it, then please grab it now from the proper 64bit location
[22:45] <jrib> Concretesledge: still not about ubuntu...
[22:45] <darolu> Concretesledge: Techincally, yes you can install OSX, either your computer or on a VirtualMachine
[22:45] <Devrethman> Dpkg-reconfigure looks infinitely cooler if the red text it changed to green.
[22:45] <AegNuddel> I'm trying to install a package from a non-official source
[22:45] <AegNuddel> I keep getting this error:
[22:45] <darolu> HammerHead66: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:46] <AegNuddel> Malformed line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[22:46] <AegNuddel> What does it mean?
[22:46] <jrib> HammerHead66: anyway, once you do that, if it still doesn't work, close all instances of firefox (verify with ps -ef), then run firefox from a terminal, pastebin all terminal output.  In addition, pastebin the contents of about:plugins and the output of « ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/ » including the command you ran
[22:46] <Devrethman> Aegnudde1: That your sources.lst has a syntax error in it. Pastebin it and we can have a look.
[22:46] <V4mpire> thats a long sources list
[22:46] <kumakuma> i get " [    0.004207] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls " then, on a newline, "[    1.796701] audit: initializing netlink socket  (disabled)"
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> AegNuddel, the error says there is a problem on line 50 of your sources.lst -- Devrethman finished my thought...
[22:47] <Devrethman> V4mpire: With the comments, the default one is about that long.
[22:47] <HammerHead66> ﻿jrib: I know your trying to help but it not working out your misunderstand what I am saying. I went to this site first http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html now look under the first para. I hit that link to download from this site http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ that's were I got the flash
[22:47] <V4mpire> oh never seen 1 that long tho might just be that i've only looked at it on other distro's
[22:48] <kumakuma> i've noticed there's no eth0 line in my /etc/network/interfaces file. would that have something to do with it?
[22:48] <darolu> HammerHead66: have you tried to install with "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[22:48] <Devrethman> V4mpire: yeah, ubuntus has tons of comments.
[22:48] <HammerHead66> yes it tries to install 9
[22:49] <Devrethman> V4mpire: Mine's 48 lines long, and I haven't changed it at all.
[22:49] <V4mpire> ahh i see
[22:49] <AegNuddel> can I just get my sources list somehow?
[22:49] <domo> anyone here have success with getting the intel 4500mhd (january 2010) vga card working with ubuntu? if not, should i compile + install www.intellinuxgraphics.org ?
[22:49] <Devrethman> you can (in a terminal) cat /etc/apt/sources.list and it will be there.
[22:49] <Devrethman> pastebin that, and we'll try to see what's up.
[22:50] <jrib> HammerHead66: ah, I see now.  You clicked the wrong link then.  That's why you didn't get the 64bit one
[22:50] <HammerHead66> ﻿darolu: ﻿yes it tries to install 9 it gave and error
[22:50] <jrib> HammerHead66: here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[22:50] <darolu> HammerHead66: Give this link a try: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[22:52] <AegNuddel> trying to get browser to oad
[22:52] <AegNuddel> load
[22:53] <jrib> darolu: that link is horrible, please don't recommend it
[22:53] <darolu> HammerHead66: it's weird it tries to install version 9; I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and it came with version 10.
[22:53] <litorcino> Hi. Any help? I want to understand what does "new" do in c++. I thought it was like "malloc" in c. I don if this idea is correct.
[22:54] <jrib> litorcino: try #c++
[22:54] <GreenDance> Hi
[22:54] <GreenDance> Can I have several client PCs netboot onto an ubuntu server?
[22:54] <mauri> is there a way to start a disto (ie kubuntu) not from root but from a folder?.......
[22:55] <hermes> Hello, can't seem to find/use my wireless card, lspci | grep net only lists the gigabit ethernet controller
[22:55] <OerHeks> yes you can PXE boot GreenDance
[22:55] <AegNuddel> http://pastebin.ca/1795707
[22:55] <guntbert> !ltsp | GreenDance
[22:55] <FANDER> guys I want to get a laptop from Germany. What's the difference between the German layout and the US layout? Are the keys going to be different?
[22:55] <AegNuddel> pixie boots :P
[22:55] <FANDER>  I don't care about the key's label. I can even write on the keyboard without looking at it. I memorized it.
[22:55] <FANDER> I saw on a picture that the Y key is in a different place. When I choose the US layout from Ubuntu, is it going to be above the home row, or below it as in the German Layout?
[22:55] <FANDER> I want the keyboard to function just as a US keyboard.
[22:55] <FANDER> I don't care about the labels
[22:56] <blakkheim> !enter | FANDER
[22:56] <guntbert> FANDER: the layout determines what character a key generates
[22:56] <HammerHead66> ﻿darolu: weird
[22:56] <FANDER> guntbert: oh!
[22:56] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 "Frisby" sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however this laptop claims to have 6 output channels and 0 input channels, and on another laptop, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't get why the 2 laptops show a different config... Both laptops running karmic. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[22:57] <GreenDance> will LTSP work on normal PCs without HDDs?
[22:57] <FANDER> guntbert: so this is gonna be a big problem for me :(
[22:57] <OerHeks> FANDER, german layout > http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~tphillip/german-keyboard-a.jpg
[22:57] <OerHeks> you see
[22:57] <guntbert> FANDER: no, you can change the layout any time :-)
[22:57] <FANDER> OerHeks: yeah some keys are switched
[22:58] <FANDER> guntbert: ?!
[22:58] <darolu> FANDER: don't worry, it doesn't matter the keyboard labels,
[22:59] <guntbert> FANDER: system/preferences/keyboard selects the layout you want to use - you can even switch "on the fly"
[22:59] <FANDER> guntbert: on the fly? how?
[22:59] <plitter> how do i check the configurations on my kernel?
[22:59] <guntbert> FANDER: there is an applet for the panel
[23:00] <shashank> Hi!
[23:00] <FANDER> darolu: but I guess it will only work inside ubuntu right? i.e if I'm not in Ubuntu, like in DOS, the keyboard layout will be the German one.
[23:00] <shashank> I needed help in installing wine.
[23:00] <BlackDalek> who is Guest_82339 and why are they repeating my question?
[23:00] <Simon1245> Hello guys I need a bit help
[23:00] <darolu> FANDER: You can set it too on any terminal, you would have to do it again on a different OS though, ie. if you use windows
[23:00] <shashank> Hello Simon, what help do you need?
[23:00] <FANDER> guntbert: so I can use it just as the US one. The key's position will be the same for me
[23:01] <Simon1245> shashank, My sound isn't working on Ubuntu
[23:01] <FANDER> guntbert: for example, the Y key will be above the home row right?
[23:01] <j-3-r-g_> hey anyone familiar with java compiler warnings
[23:01] <FANDER> j-3-r-g_: ##java
[23:01] <shashank> I am not sure I will succeed, but I will try to help you. What computer do you have?
[23:01] <j-3-r-g_> I can't seem to join the java channel
[23:01] <darolu> FANDER: don't mind the labels, what y ou need to know is how many keys the keyboard has
[23:01] <FANDER> j-3-r-g_: plz change your name, it's difficult to write!
[23:02] <Simon1245> shashank, Laptop
[23:02] <shashank> Simon1245, can you tell me the model number?
[23:02] <guntbert> FANDER: yes - it will be ok - you can try to switch layouts now :-)  (layouts are about how the keystroke gets interpreted)
[23:02] <darolu> FANDER: If you type english only, you have nothing to worry about.
[23:02] <FANDER> darolu: I'm gonna get this laptop: http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/lenovo+g550+led+backlight+dual+core
[23:02] <Simon1245> shashank, Sure, Fujitsu Siemens amilo la 1703
[23:03] <AegNuddel> I did pastebin
[23:03] <hermes> Hey guys, my laptop's wireless adapter seems to be invisible. "lspci -v | grep less" returns nothing, can anyone shed light on this?
[23:03] <FANDER> j3rg: go to ##irc and they'll tell you why you can't
[23:04] <FANDER> j3rg: sorry #irc
[23:04] <j3rg> thanx FANDER
[23:04] <shashank> Does it have speakers? Have you tried using earphones?
[23:04] <hermes> Am I asking my question wrong or something?
[23:05] <maggs> hey, i was just wondering if anyone knew why ubuntu's "usb startup creator" thingymajig won't let me burn the mini.iso to a usb stick?
[23:05] <shashank> Do you see the volume icon in your Ubuntu?
[23:05] <BlackDalek> I found how to get 6 output and 1 input channel on this laptop... the other laptop still claims I can only get 1 input channel and 0 output channels. The only profiles available in the hardware tab of sound preferences are "off" or "analogue stereo input"
[23:05] <guntbert> FANDER: what was that #irc about?
[23:05] <Simon1245> shashank, Yes, I can mute and all the stuff
[23:05] <Simon1245> shashank, But I can't hear the sound
[23:05] <FANDER> guntbert: he wanted to know why he can't join ##java
[23:06] <shashank> Simon1245, Ok but you can't hear the sound neither in your laptop speakers nor in your earphones correct?
[23:06] <Simon1245> shashank, My headphones are broken so I can't try it :(
[23:06] <shashank> Simon1245, oh ... ok
[23:06] <darolu> hermes: try to run lspci without searching for less only
[23:06] <guntbert> FANDER: yes, but #irc is invite only while ##java requires registration
[23:06] <lnmulti> BlackDalek: What sound card are you discussing here?
[23:06] <Simon1245> shashank, So, Any idea how to fix it?
[23:06] <FANDER> guntbert: invite only?! No I can joint it without invitation
[23:06] <darolu> guntbert: you can join #irc without invite, you need invite for #java; I just tried
[23:07] <hermes> darolu: not listed in lspci at all
[23:07] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, it is some generic "Frisby" 6ch USB sound card.
[23:07] <FANDER> guntbert: so after all, the keyboard keys is a software issue and not a hardware issue
[23:08] <guntbert> FANDER: yes, the keys are essentially the same - maybe a few more or less
[23:08] <Simon1245> shashank, Are you there?
[23:08] <Armageddon00> Hi, where does the pacakge emacs23-el place the elisp files?  I don't see them in /usr/share or /usr/local/share
[23:08] <shashank> Simon1245, do you have any other OS installed on your laptop?
[23:08] <da> I just downloaded AVG antivirus, how do I get it on my machine?
[23:08] <tvjudge> I judt got a new laptop with amd 64 processor. SHould I go for the 64 bit version of ubuntu studio?
[23:09] <Simon1245> shashank, Yes, Windows
[23:09] <shashank> So your speakers work in Windows, correct?
[23:09] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, it is some generic "Frisby" 6ch USB sound card.
[23:09] <shashank> Simon1245, So your speakers work in Windows, correct?
[23:09] <darolu> hermes: do you know the model of your wireless card?
[23:09] <Simon1245> shashank, Talk on the private chat you just opened
[23:09] <Simon1245> And yes they work
[23:10] <lnmulti> BlackDalek: can I see the card's line from lspci?
[23:10] <UhmHelpPlz> hi, I just updated to AWN3.9-rewrite and all of the launchers are gone.  There is a message about the taskmanager applet needing to be active but this is not on the applet list.  Can anyone help?
[23:10] <shashank> Simon1245, roger that
[23:10] <plitter> does someone know how to support the norwegian letters æ ø å in lynx?
[23:10] <plitter> does someone know how to support the norwegian letters æ ø å in lynx? the internet browser?
[23:10] <Drakonslayor> I want to get CS:S working on my computer and stuff... can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:10] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, ubuntu thinks it a "HP USB500 5.1 headset" - I will get the lspci...
[23:11] <maggs> hey, i was just wondering if anyone knew why ubuntu's "usb startup creator" thingymajig won't let me burn the mini.iso to a usb stick?
[23:11] <hermes> darolu: I shamefully have no idea, it's an asus eee pc 1201n, that's all I know
[23:11] <philien> Are ther any LAMP package in UBUNTU ?
[23:11] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, lsusb says "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset"
[23:12] <lnmulti> ok
[23:12] <kb010> http://digg.com/politics/Protect_online_rights_Comment_on_the_ACTA_before_2010_02_16  -- Proposed agreement could threaten all FOSS projects, including Ubuntu. Make your voice heard.
[23:12] <darolu> hermes: maybe is this one, try it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/sis162usb-AsusA4000
[23:13] <philien> Are there LAMP package in Ubuntu's
[23:13] <Flannel> kb010: Please don't post that here.  This channel is for support only.  You're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:13] <Flannel> !lamp | philien
[23:14] <Drakonslayor> Hey, new to linux, come from windows... i wanna get my CS:S working on it but i don't know where to start... can anyone point me in the right direction??
[23:14] <Flannel> maggs: USB Creator thing only works on liveCD images (casper images).  Mini/Alternate/Server use debian-installer to install.  There are other ways to get those on a USB though.
[23:14] <blakkheim> !appdb > Drakonslayor
[23:14] <jrib> !appdb | Drakonslayor
[23:14] <blakkheim> too slow
[23:15] <philien> Flannel: Thanks for the link
[23:15] <hermes> darolu: Sorry, what exactly do I do with that page?
[23:15] <maggs> thankyou Flannel, what ways would you suggest? or could you point me in the right direction?
[23:15] <HammerHead66> ﻿darolu: nice hack try
[23:15] <c4st13l> e ai pessoal
[23:15] <c4st13l> tem algum Br ai
[23:15] <c4st13l> ?
[23:16] <darolu> hermes: follow the instructions, they are intended for the command line
[23:16] <maggs> i've tried unetbootin, but that doesn't find my network card on my eee when it boots from the usb
[23:16] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 "Frisby" sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however this laptop claims to have 6 output channels and 1 input channels, and on another laptop, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't get why the 2 laptops show a different config... Both laptops running karmic. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[23:16] <Flannel> maggs: Yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has a number of methods.  I'm having trouble finding the USB installer one
[23:16] <Flannel> !br | c4st13l
[23:16] <darolu> HammerHead66: what are you talking about?
[23:16] <c4st13l> #ubuntu-br
[23:16] <HammerHead66> lmao you know what I'm talking about
[23:16] <c4st13l> ai
[23:17] <HammerHead66> www.boundlesssurpremacy.com
[23:17] <HammerHead66> good try lol
[23:17] <AegNuddel> okay got it back to no problems with lines and just can't find package
[23:17] <darolu> HammerHead66: I honestly have no idea
[23:17] <Flannel> maggs: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html seems like it should work for you
[23:18] <HammerHead66> lmao ok
[23:18] <AegNuddel> by taking these out
[23:18] <AegNuddel> #
[23:18] <AegNuddel> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[23:18] <AegNuddel> #
[23:18] <AegNuddel> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu karmic
[23:18] <FloodBot2> AegNuddel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <Flannel> c4st13l: /join #ubuntu-br
[23:18] <maggs> cheers again Flannel, taking a look now, and will look at that second link too
[23:18] <AegNuddel> oh sorry
[23:20] <darolu> HammerHead66: the link I pasted is Ubuntu documentation, on a https:// domain, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
[23:20] <Devrethman> Is there any reason that TrueCrypt is not in any official package repos?
[23:20] <Saftpackl> has someone got a "focusrite saffire 6 usb" working?
[23:20] <AegNuddel> have been trying to get this experimental package
[23:20] <Devrethman> Cause it seems like it's a significant enough project to warrant being there.
[23:20] <abadabad00> I'm having a hard time getting google gadgets to work in ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. Can anyone help?
[23:20] <Flannel> Devrethman: Because the truecrypt license doesn't permit us to distribute it
[23:21] <Devrethman> Flannel: Ah. Okay.
[23:21] <Flannel> Devrethman: File complaints with the truecrypt people so we can :)
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, did you install google-gadgets-gtk from the repo?
[23:21] <meero> how to get from kubuntu netbook, to system settings?
[23:21] <AegNuddel> called giftwrap
[23:22] <Devrethman> Flannel: Getting it from them is no big deal, I was just wondering if there was some sort of conflict.
[23:22] <Flannel> Devrethman: It'd be really nice if we could package it though.  Make it a lot easier for everyone involved.  Make integration be possible too
[23:23] <meero> how to get from kubuntu netbook, to system settings ??
[23:23] <AegNuddel> well
[23:23] <al__> Hi   can newb ask basic ??? here?
[23:23] <AegNuddel> I might actually get this
[23:23] <Flannel> al__: Yep, that's what this channel is for.
[23:23] <meero> al__: no
[23:23] <Flannel> !conduct > meero
[23:23] <AegNuddel> if the packages will start downloading
[23:24] <meero> Flannel: just kidding  man
[23:24] <Flannel> meero: Don't.  Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.
[23:25] <al__> I am having problems with grub ver 1.97beta4 and startup manager,   I can not seem to get the changes I make with startup manager to take affect or change grub
[23:26] <FatherTyme> Getting "SystemError: installArchives() failed" when trying to install Nvidia drivers on Karmic...
[23:26] <FatherTyme> Has anyone experienced this?
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, from Hardware Drivers or are you using the installer from Nvidia site?
[23:27] <FatherTyme> ZykotickK9 - from both jockey-gtk and jockey-text.
[23:27] <al__> I have uninstalled and reinstalled startup manager with no change and I can not make backup disk (I get error)
[23:28] <AegNuddel> terminal had something in use.  Weird.
[23:29] <AegNuddel> yay installing
[23:29] <AegNuddel> took me a while
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, my initial google search suggests you might want to use an older version of driver, what version are you currently installing?
[23:29] <infomomo> hey guys what is a good usenet client for ubuntu ?
[23:29] <AegNuddel> BUT did it!
[23:30] <Simon1245> Could anyone help me? My speaker isn't working :( Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:30] <FatherTyme> ZykotickK9 - happens with any driver I try to install - 173,185,190 or 195.
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> !tab > FatherTyme
[23:30] <philien> eh les gars
[23:30] <philien> je suis gay
[23:30] <philien> j'adore les pipes
[23:30] <philien> pas vous
[23:30] <scivi> "/msg nickserv info <nick>"
[23:30] <philien> ?
[23:30] <philien> FUCK YOU
[23:30] <FloodBot2> philien: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <philien> Excuse Me It's not me on
[23:31] <philien> this
[23:31] <philien> room*
[23:31] <Simon1245> Could anyone help me? My speaker isn't working :( Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, what gfx card do you have "lspci | grep -i vga" to find out specifically
[23:32] <kotsu> plitter, you there?
[23:32] <FatherTyme> ZykotickK9, Geforce 9300 on a Mini-ITX board.
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> !tab > FatherTyme
[23:32] <plitter> kotsu: yes
[23:33] <joker> hey
[23:33] <al__>  I am having problems with grub ver 1.97beta4 and startup manager,   I can not seem to get the changes I make with startup manager to take affect or change grub
[23:33] <kotsu> Hey, tried the suggestion for framebuffer and couldn't boot into X.  I had to go into safe mode and back out the change.  Not sure what's wrong.  No biggie.. but still looking for a solution.
[23:33] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, The Nvidia binary drivers have previously always worked on this machine.  Just uninstalled 195 to go to 185 to see if I could resolve some screen tearing...
[23:33] <al__> I have uninstalled and reinstalled startup manager with no change and I can not make backup disk (I get error)
[23:33] <kuba_> hej
[23:33] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, But after I uninstalled 195 using jockey, I get that error when trying to install 185.
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, so they were working before the update?
[23:34] <joker> anyone know how to install netgear router on ubuntu?
[23:34] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, Yup.
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, ummm, that complicates matters -- i really don't know what to suggest...
[23:34] <kotsu> plitter.. and at first I put in the hex value (yeah I know)
[23:35] <kotsu> So I converted to decimal and still have the same issue.
[23:35] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, It appears to be an issue with jockey, but uninstalling/reinstalling that does not resolve the issue.
[23:35] <joker> anyone know how to install netgear router on ubuntu?
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, have you tried "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185" ?
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, and thanks for correcting my nic - highlighting makes a big difference
[23:36] <greezmunkey> joker, you could use double sticky tape, that might work... :]
[23:36] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, did you try removing the original driver with no X running and installing the nvidia 195 driver from ppa
[23:37] <BlackDalek> Why do I get one set of sound profile configurations for a USB sound card on one laptop and a totally different set of sound profile options on a different laptop for the same USB hardware, yet both machines are running Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:37] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Original drivers are removed.  Trying a reinstall of 195 without X now...
[23:40] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, aight - looks like I'm back in business.
[23:40] <AegNuddel> ok cool article XD
[23:40] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Thanks for the tip.
[23:40] <joker> greezmunkey, i ment get it working
[23:40] <AegNuddel> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/customizing_your_screensaver
[23:40] <AegNuddel> neat neat neat
[23:41] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, unfortunately most tutorial neglet to mention this important fact.
[23:41] <greezmunkey> joker, I was foolin' what's not working - even though this isn't a ubuntu question
[23:42] <xfact> hello
[23:42] <al__> anyone free to help me?
[23:44] <frank007> hello - is ther anyone who can help me setup my wireless network on ubuntu 9.10?
[23:44] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Well, jockey has always worked for me before.  But it appears that something is wrong with it with the 33 kernel.
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> al_, with Karmic i don't think Startup Manager can control Grub or GDM for that matter.
[23:44] <joker> it kinda is an ubuntu question... I cant use the cd that came with it cause my cdrom is broken for some reason. Even if I could, I don't think it will work. How can I install it to work jst as a wired router at least...?
[23:45] <al__> OK how do I change defaults in grub then?
[23:45] <blag> my laptop just booted and it the keyboard and pointing stick dont work.  before i reboot, id like to gather information for a bug report.  what commands should i run?
[23:45] <xfact> I have just install 'tor proxy' on my PC, but after installing every time on google search it saying "We're sorry...but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. ", then after feeling a ceptcha it allowing to search at google, is that normal?
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > al_
[23:45] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, I seldom use a assist app to install drivers , gone thru too much grief to rely on them :)
[23:45] <greezmunkey> joker, do you know its IP address?
[23:45] <al__> 1.97beta4
[23:45] <joker> nope. It doesnt even turn on even though its all pluged in...
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> al_, 1.97 = grub2
[23:46] <timmarshall> omg ubuntu could be at risk :O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM73a_SUZI&feature=sub
[23:46] <xfact> What actually 'tor project' proxy does, why google preventing my access to search on first time?
[23:46] <al__> not getting private message using xchat
[23:46] <xfact> Anybody knows about 'TOR project'?
[23:46] <bobbytek2> xfact: I live in TORonto
[23:46] <BHoward> What do you need to know about TOR?
[23:47] <Flannel> timmarshall: This channel is not the place for that.  #ubuntu-offtopic is.
[23:47] <greezmunkey> joker, that's it then, no help here... sorry
[23:47] <zcat[1]> xfact:  you're sharing exit nodes with many other users, some of which may be running queries google finds suspicious (eg using tor to anonymously search for web exploits)
[23:47] <al__> ok I guess it is grub2 then
[23:47] <darolu> !grub2 |al__
[23:47] <joker> alright then... thanks.
[23:47] <BluesKaj> frank007, which wifi card ?
[23:47] <reisio> install image smaller than 650MB?
[23:47] <timmarshall> well it could be drasticly affect im usin my right to free speach to warm people
[23:47] <fez> al__: your best bet with grub2 is: sudo apt-get purge grub2 && sudo apt-get install grub
[23:48] <xfact> zcat[1], well my main question is , that's not unsafe for my computer right?
[23:48] <Flannel> timmarshall: No, this channel is for support only.  Please don't be offtopic here.
[23:48] <jp--> hi guys. alsamixer only shows me hdmi audio controls not rca, how can I fix this? I'm only using audio on rca, so I need to increase the volume of these output but alsamixer only shows the hdmi audio controllers... any ideas?
[23:48] <xfact> People uses TOR for being safe from network attacks
[23:48] <frank007> BluesKaj - its intel pro/wireless 2200 bg network
[23:48] <andresmh> is it just me or the Add/Remove Applications app is gone?
[23:48] <al__> oh man i was afraid of this.. I am new and do not know sudo,, will have to research
[23:48] <frank007> on sony vaio
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> andresmh, renamed to Ubuntu Software Center
[23:48] <darolu> al__: read this thread, it helps a lot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[23:48] <al__> Thanks guys
[23:49] <zcat[1]> people use tor for lots of things
[23:49] <reisio> is there an install image for 9.10 that's smaller than 650MB?
[23:49] <Flannel> reisio: server ISO or minimal ISO
[23:49] <andresmh> ZykoticK9, ah, but it's so different. There is no way of organizing them by type, is it?
[23:49] <reisio> Flannel: I don't see a "minimal" anywhere
[23:50] <Flannel> reisio: It's 8MB, you download all the packages during the install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:50] <xfact> Anybody can tell me the process of TOR  project is safe to use?
[23:50] <andresmh> ZykoticK9, organizing the installed apps by type
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> andresmh, i have no idea -- i'm still using apt-get ;)
[23:50] <Lostinspace_46> Where can I download apt_secure? I have googled and checked forums, and I just can't find it.
[23:50] <reisio> Flannel: hahah, thanks
[23:50] <BluesKaj> frank007, have you tried connecting with network manager...I have to ask
[23:50] <xfact> I do not want to ruin or insecure my privacy or network
[23:50] <zcat[1]> xfact:  yes, it's not your computer that will be generating suspicious queries, it will be anotuer tor user. But if you're the next person using that exit node google will block all searches until you answer the captcha
[23:50] <reisio> Flannel: thanks
[23:51] <fez> al__: see http://brettshaffer.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/
[23:51] <BlackDalek> I found the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349681 - all I needed to do was reboot the laptop and all the sound channel profile options came up in sound preferences like they should have in the first place...
[23:51] <frank007> yeah i did but nothing - i shld also tell u i have just installed ubuntu and am feeling my way around so I know very little abt its workings
[23:51] <BHoward> @xfact Tor is safe. the only downside of it is the speed
[23:51] <Mark_in_Hollywoo> I need some help compiling a driver for LM-sensors. It works with AMD K10
[23:52] <Flannel> reisio: No problem
[23:52] <xfact> BHoward, yea, thats right my firefox is running slower, I don't know what will happen with my youtube video speed...
[23:53] <AegNuddel> Cool!  It works!!
[23:55] <BluesKaj> frank007,  I use wicd , which more configurable and dependable , you can install itfrom yor package manager
[23:56] <Mark_in_Hollywoo> I have a 4 core cpu - AMD, LM-sensors won't work with it until I compile the drivers for it. I don't know how to compile. Any one know Lm-sensors?
[23:56] <frank007> where do i find package manager?
[23:57] <jrib> !synaptic | frank007
[23:57] <AegNuddel> I know
[23:58] <frank007> ok - i'll try it
[23:58] <Lostinspace_46> Where can I download apt_secure? I have googled and checked forums, and I just can't find it.
[23:59] <meowbuntu> at is up wine messages says the latest is not installed on my computer. but i got the latest from the repos. what is going on
[23:59] <AegNuddel> it was a pointless girly thing to make a snowflake screensaver.  I could also do hearts, flowers, princess crowns
[23:59] <Flannel> Lostinspace_46: What is apt_secure?
[23:59] <AegNuddel> but snowflakes was hood enough for now
[23:59] <AegNuddel> good