[03:45] <lgc> Hi. Help?
[03:52] <duanedesign> hello lgc
[03:53] <lgc> duanedesign, I am new to UO, but it doesn't seem to work. The client just can't seem to connect.
[03:56] <duanedesign> lgc: ok
[03:56] <lgc> It's not OK ... :( !
[03:57] <duanedesign> lgc: quit the applet r-click quit
[03:57] <lgc> And then?
[03:58] <duanedesign> open a Terminal (Applications > Accesories > Terminal)
[03:58] <lgc> Got it.
[03:58] <duanedesign> and run: u1sdtool -q
[03:59] <lgc> daemon stopped.
[03:59] <duanedesign> ok run:   ps uaxxc | grep ubu
[04:00] <duanedesign> to make sure its all quit
[04:00] <lgc> All clear.
[04:00] <duanedesign> ok now start the client with Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One
[04:01] <lgc> "Oops! This link appears to be broken."
[04:01] <duanedesign> lgc: did that appear in the browser?
[04:02] <duanedesign> or in a dialog box?
[04:02] <lgc> Yes, after trying to add my computer.
[04:03] <duanedesign> lgc: what version of the client do you have: apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[04:03] <duanedesign> EX.  Installed: 1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~karmic
[04:04] <lgc>  1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[04:04] <duanedesign> lgc: ok lets first update it to 1.0.3 they added a lot of fixes in that version
[04:04] <duanedesign> System > Administration > Update Manager
[04:04] <duanedesign> there should be an update waiting for ubuntuone-client
[04:05] <lgc> I thought it was automatic...
[04:05] <duanedesign> you can set how often it runs (update manager)
[04:07] <duanedesign> bottom left there is a settings button if you want to change how often it checks for updates
[04:07] <lgc> In fact, in the long list of updates there is UO (I'm not sure when the updating system changed, but I was more aware of it before. There was an icon always present, IIRC).
[04:08] <duanedesign> lgc: yes it was different in Jaunty
[04:09] <lgc> The updating is set to daily. However, I don't think it's doing it so. There are 167 packages to update! Can't be from yesterday...
[04:15] <lgc> duanedesign, you still there?
[04:16] <duanedesign> yes
[04:16] <duanedesign> sorry
[04:16] <duanedesign> i was looking for a bug on the update manager
[04:17] <duanedesign> mine is set to daily too. But i dont think that is the resulting behavior
[04:20] <lgc> I apt-get installed it manually and managed to register the computer. However, a popup asked me for the keyring password. By using my password (I'm the admin) I didn't go nowhere. But I recalled the first admin password and voilá! I could get through but I think I ran into a gnome-keyring-whatever bug.
[04:23] <duanedesign> So did not add your computer?
[04:23] <duanedesign> or it just asked for a different password than you were expecting?
[04:23] <lgc> It did, twice, with different codes (....). So I deleted both entries and UO refuses to work again!
[04:25] <duanedesign> you can go through the proces of quitting everything again. Quit the client through the applet and run  u1sdtool -q
[04:25] <duanedesign> then App > Int> Ubuntu One should work
[04:26] <lgc> As regardsthe gnome-keyring thing, it in fact expects a different password. I was sick and tired of it not accepting my password when trying to go wireless. The thing is that SOMEHOW the very first admin password seems to be stored somewhere.
[04:26] <lgc> "ubuntuone-syncdaemon still running."
[04:27] <lgc> Had to kill it the old way...
[04:28] <duanedesign> ok and : ps uaxxc | grep ubu
[04:28] <duanedesign> will ensure that all is quit
[04:29] <lgc> It seems to be connected now, but no indication that it's doing anything.
[04:30] <duanedesign> u1sdtool --status
[04:30] <duanedesign> try that^^
[04:31] <duanedesign> also: u1sdtool --current-transfers
[04:31] <duanedesign> will show if any current transfers are happening
[04:32] <lgc> Doesn't have the "status" option. And no transfers are active.
[04:33] <duanedesign> lgc: do you have a file  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[04:33] <lgc> it's there, but empty.
[04:33] <duanedesign> ok
[04:33] <lgc> By the way, the icon disappeared from the panel.
[04:34] <duanedesign> lgc: you might have it set to only appear during 'activity'
[04:34] <duanedesign> lgc: you can go to App > Int > Ubuntu One
[04:34] <duanedesign> and if the client is already running the preferences box comes up
[04:35] <duanedesign> also untick limit bandwidth if it is checked
[04:35] <lgc> I changed it to "always", but the icon doesn't rear its head.
[04:37] <duanedesign> lgc: what did it say when you did:  u1sdtool --status
[04:37] <lgc> u1sdtool: error: no such option: --status
[04:37] <duanedesign> huh
[04:39] <lgc> And the icon still refuses to show up.
[04:39] <duanedesign> ps uaxxc | grep ubu
[04:39] <lgc> (Or rear its "ugly" head.
[04:39] <duanedesign> and see if the syncdaemon is running
[04:39] <lgc> lgc      27596  0.4  1.4  88448 29480 ?        Sl   22:28   0:01 ubuntuone-clien
[04:39] <lgc> lgc      27717  0.7  0.8  38840 18308 ?        Sl   22:28   0:02 ubuntuone-syncd
[04:43] <duanedesign> lgc: is there anything in: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log
[04:44] <duanedesign> if there is you can paste it on ubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:44] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:44] <lgc> It's brief:
[04:44] <lgc> 2010-02-12 22:28:13,311:311.808109283 UbuntuOne.Client.Applet Error de salida: M
[04:44] <lgc> ethod "quit" with signature "" on interface "com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.SyncDaemon
[04:44] <lgc> " doesn't exist
[04:45] <lgc> "salida"=it
[04:45] <lgc> "salida"=output.
[04:47] <duanedesign>  lgc run this to make sure everythin got updated.   sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client* python-ubuntuone-storage*
[04:48] <lgc> Ready.
[04:48] <lgc> Do I kill and restart anew?
[04:48] <duanedesign> yes try again
[04:50] <lgc> But:
[04:50] <lgc>  u1sdtool --current-transfers
[04:50] <lgc> Current uploads: 0
[04:50] <lgc> Current downloads: 0
[04:51] <duanedesign> try placing another small file in the Ubuntu One folder
[04:52] <lgc> Nice. It worked this time.
[04:54] <duanedesign> lgc: if you have stuff existing in the folder. You might need to back it up : cp ~Ubuntu\ One/ ~Ubuntu\ One.old/
[04:54] <duanedesign> and then empty the original and copy back over the contents. If that makes sense
[04:55] <lgc> I deleted some files from the folder and nothing seemed to happen. Is it supposed to update continuously?
[04:57] <duanedesign> lgc: i just deleted some too. It looks like the server might be a little slow right now. I know they were rolling out an update that might slow things down for a day
[04:57] <lgc> I was reading something along those lines as you pinged.
[04:58] <lgc> How good does UO deal with symlinks?
[04:59] <duanedesign> lgc: they will be adding the option to select folders other than Ubuntu One in Lucid
[05:00] <duanedesign> if you want to sym link. Put the folder in Ubuntu one not the link
[05:01] <lgc> Oh, I see. So I had it backwards.
[05:02] <lgc> This amount to moving things around and not just creating the symlinks...
[05:03] <lgc> Not that it's too much work in my case, but doesn't seem elegant, does it?
[05:04] <duanedesign> lgc: no. There will be a lot of improvements in Lucid
[05:05] <duanedesign> there are definetly a few rough corners. But Canonical has added some people to pretty up U1 and they have been working really hard and making some good progress.
[05:06] <duanedesign> there is a Customer Support Engineer 'rye' he is really helpfull when it comes to Ubuntu One
[05:07] <duanedesign> he is usially here from about...well 4 hours from now and usually satays in here for a good 10 - 12 hours a day
[05:07] <duanedesign> s/satays/stays
[05:10] <lgc> OK. The important thing is that it's working now.
[05:12] <lgc> By the way, am I supposed to see the "updating" (or whatever) icon constantly (while updating, that is)? Because I can't see it anymore.
[05:15] <duanedesign> lgc: i deleted some stuff. then looked at my syncdaemon log and the message has been sent so i think know it is up to the server
[05:15] <duanedesign> if that answers your question :)
[05:16] <lgc> Guess what? It only seems to work with small files. I copied a bunch of dirs to the U1 dir. But there are no transfers going on...
[05:17] <lgc> And I can't delete on the page the small file that did copy (I'ts not on the U1 dir anymore).
[05:18] <duanedesign> lgc: you cant delete the small file from the web page
[05:18] <lgc> Why not?
[05:19] <duanedesign> sorry, lol
[05:19] <duanedesign> that was a question
[05:19] <duanedesign> i am bad at punctuation
[05:19] <duanedesign> lgc: try reloading the webpage
[05:20] <lgc> Oh. There is this trash icon associated with the file, but there seems to be an error of some sort, since the background goes pink -or red-.
[05:22] <lgc> duanedesign, it's gone! Moreover, some of the dirs I moved to U1 already appear on the page. But how come no transfers seem to be active?
[05:22] <lgc> OK, let me take that back: Current uploads:
[05:22] <lgc>   path: /home/lgc/Ubuntu One/C/example15.his
[05:22] <lgc>     deflated size: 169205
[05:22] <lgc>     bytes written: 169205
[05:22] <lgc> Current downloads: 0
[05:25] <lgc> duanedesign, what about my Evolution contacts and my sticky notes? Are they supposed to transfer all by themselves?
[05:25] <duanedesign> lgc: yes. Those transfer i think every ten minutes
[05:26] <lgc> Oh, nice.
[05:26] <duanedesign> lgc: there is also this command
[05:26] <duanedesign> u1sdtool --waiting-content
[05:27] <duanedesign> i put a 3k file in my folder and its still waiting, lol
[05:27] <lgc> u1sdtool: error: no such option: --waiting-content
[05:27] <duanedesign> lgc: i am going to make a note about that error and ask about it tommorrow
[05:27] <lgc> Newcomers have the right of way...:)!
[05:28] <duanedesign> i have never seen that error
[05:28] <duanedesign> ha ha, right
[05:28] <lgc> duanedesign, are you a developer?
[05:28] <duanedesign> lgc: no, just a volunteer
[05:29] <lgc> I see.
[05:29] <duanedesign> volunteer = a community member who is interested in the project
[05:29] <lgc> Where do you get your options for u1sdtool?
[05:29] <duanedesign> man u1sdtool
[05:30] <lgc> duanedesign, my u1sdtool doesn't seem to have a couple of them, like "waiting content" and "status".
[05:31] <duanedesign> lgc: maybe they are in the package: sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client-tools
[05:32] <lgc> It was already there.
[05:34] <duanedesign> lgc: must be because i am running the Beta from the Beta/PPA
[05:35] <lgc> It makes sense.
[05:39] <lgc> By the way, from the webpage I just navigated to a file and then I clicked it so it downloaded to my desktop. But when I deleted it, it was also deleted from the page, apparently.
[05:44] <lgc> (Actually no, it's back up there.)
[05:45] <duanedesign> lgc: ok, good
[05:46] <lgc> But I've waited longer than 10 minutes in order for my contacts to show up on the page, without luck.
[05:51] <duanedesign> lgc: make sure this is installed: apt-cache policy evolution-couchdb
[05:51] <duanedesign> EX:  Installed: 0.3.4-0ubuntu2
[05:54] <duanedesign> if you have not set up the contacts to sync before there is a guide here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Contacts
[05:58] <duanedesign> lgc: geting late here. If you still have questions tomorrow ill be around
[05:58] <duanedesign> have a good night
[06:37] <lgc> duanedesign, I took a pause for dinner, sorry. I finally got the address book on U1. Thank you very much and best regards from Mexico.
[06:37] <lgc> Good night.
[18:27] <mesula> If I delete a file in my Ubuntu One folder, will it also be deleted on the server and on my other PC?
[18:48] <duanedesign> mesula: yes
[19:34] <duanedesign> hello rye.
[19:35] <rye> duanedesign, hi
[19:35] <rye> duanedesign, have you upgraded your system to Lucid ?
[19:36] <duanedesign> No. I just have a VM
[19:36] <rye> duanedesign, I did
[19:36] <rye> and gnote broke
[19:36] <rye> along with ufw :)
[19:38] <duanedesign> heh, thats no good
[19:41] <duanedesign> you like gnote? I have heard good things about it recently. I use Tomboy a lot so i am nervous to switch
[19:51] <rye> duanedesign, no sync so far
[19:51] <rye> duanedesign, i did a couchdb-to-.note files sync (w/o support for removed ones) but it is not compatible with current server ui code (it stores notes in HTML at the moment)
[19:52] <rye> duanedesign, gnote is super fast
[19:52] <rye> duanedesign, when it actually works, it seems that it is seriously damaged in lucid now, filing a bug report and will debug.
[20:28] <rye> ok, debugging ufw, will be unavailable for some time (may disconnect spontaneously)
[20:31] <duanedesign> heh
[20:32] <duanedesign> are you familiar with the 'share_id' in U1
[20:32] <rye> duanedesign, not yet
[20:33]  * rye reboots!
[21:50] <duanedesign> DDC/3