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[10:22]  * abogani waves
[10:33] <abogani> Yesterday I talked a bit with Tim Gardner: he don't want support i386 for -preempt flavour.
[10:33] <abogani> We can choose to do:
[10:33] <abogani> 1) Forget about 32 bit systems users (Tim called these "old legacy hardware")
[10:33] <abogani> So suggest to our users amd64 -preempt and -rt, drop the -lowlatency one, use -generic as default kernel for Studio
[10:33] <abogani> 2) Write an email to kernel-team and provide a valid use cases for i386 -preempt (Sorry I don't write it I'm very near to lost my self-control)
[10:34] <abogani> So, if we can change mind to Tim and he accept to provide an i386, suggest to our users -preempt and -rt, drop -lowlatency, use -preempt ad default
[10:34] <abogani> 3) Forget about only amd64 -preempt kernel flavour
[10:34] <abogani> So suggest to our users -lowlatency and rt, -lowlatency as default kernel releasing both through PPA. That because don't have any change neither to have -lowlatency in Ubuntu archives nor to have an 2.6.32 -rt kernel.
[10:34] <abogani> How do you prefer proceed?
[10:34] <abogani> TheMuso, persia, stochastic ^
[10:42] <abogani> In 3) I meant use -generic ad default kernel for Studio (not -lowlatency because it is in a PPA)
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[14:27] <ScottL> Re: 32 bit systems and kernel, before it is decided to drop support perhaps we should post to the mailing list and ask how many people this effects
[14:28]  * ScottL notes that he is a 32 bit for his main recording box
[14:28] <holstein> DUDE
[14:28] <ScottL> s/32 bit/32 bit user
[14:28] <holstein> i vote for after the LTS release
[14:29] <holstein> maybe thats what your talking about...
[14:29] <holstein> 10.10+
[14:30] <ScottL> would this render a clean, default install of a 32 bit Ubuntu Studio system without a -lowlatency, -preempt or -rt kernel?
[14:31] <ScottL> I rock a P4 for my main recording box and I would be rather put out if Ubuntu Studio Lucid came out with a vanilla kernel
[14:47] <jussi01> why dont we ship both kernels, with the lowlatency one shipped as the last in grubs list? or set as the second. I dont think this is hard to do. 
[15:04] <ScottL> stochastic, or cory had put up a list from torrent tracker url that showed about equal numbers of 32 and 64 bit downloads (I don't remember numbers)
[15:05] <ScottL> i think it would be unfortunate to upset half the user base
[15:05] <ScottL> jussi01, that is a good idea
[15:06] <ScottL> I would love to tell my wife I "had" to buy a new machine LOL  please don't misunderstand me, but I have that luxury
[15:06] <ScottL> hundereds of 32 bit Ubuntu Studio may not
[15:07] <ScottL> jussi01, I was told that you were the person to talk to about getting a dedicated (or renamed) forum at Ubuntu Forums
[15:07] <ScottL> during the meeting we talked about whether to host our own or use Ubuntu Forums
[15:07] <jussi01> ScottL: kinda. I know the right people. send me an email with exactly what you want and Illl organise it.
[15:08] <ScottL> I can do that...I should have it to you by the end of the weekend then (less than two days hence)
[15:09] <ScottL> jussi01, persia also mentioned putting the on the forum meeting agenda...do you think this will still be necessary?  if so, I will, if not I don't want to muck things up
[15:09] <ScottL> s/the/this
[15:10] <jussi01> ScottL: If it needs to be done, Ill sort it. just mail me with what you need, Ill let you know what needs to happen after that.
[15:10] <ScottL> thanks
[19:02] <ScottL> jussi01, email sent (I found unexpected time before I expected it ;P )