[01:29] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[03:04]  * ryanakca grins at Canada leading 18-0 in women's hockey at the olympics, 6:30 to go :D
[04:51] <shtylman> Riddell: we gonna add back the kubuntu-menu.png back for lucid?
[04:51] <shtylman> old one or my new one... any version?
[04:52] <shtylman> whatever we decide... we should probly close bug 389658 :)
[05:04] <maco2> ryanakca: *eighteen*?? in hockey?
[05:04] <maco2> isnt like...5... a really high score in hockey?
[05:12] <persia> Yes.
[05:12] <persia> But this is Canada, against people who don't come from Canada.  18 might be low for this.
[05:25] <freeflying> wondering will kde migrate to devicekit, since hal has been deprecated, but powerdevil still depends on hal
[06:48] <maco2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/maco_nix/4354482404/sizes/l/in/photostream/  <-- Riddell and me in Kubuntu shirts @ the White House
[07:20] <apachelogger> markey: pong
[07:21] <apachelogger> Nightrose: nvm :)
[07:21] <apachelogger> freeflying: even if hal is deprecated, devicekit is betaware or alphaware or something, so I have been told at least
[07:25] <freeflying> apachelogger: to me, none of them are stble enough, but better to not have both of them coexistance
[07:26] <apachelogger> tell that to ubuntu :P
[07:26] <apachelogger> i.e. get pitti to port solid to hal
[07:26] <apachelogger> fortunately enough porting solid probably means porting about 90% of kde to devicekit
[07:27] <freeflying> lol
[07:28] <freeflying> reality is devicekit is going to be de facto
[07:33] <apachelogger> yuriy_work: userconfig is not working on karmic with kde 4.4 :(
[07:34] <apachelogger> freeflying: going to be
[07:34] <apachelogger> freeflying: it is not yet
[10:19] <apachelogger> the fudge
[10:22] <apachelogger> in the name of all that is blue
[10:23] <apachelogger> python-kde4 makes me shiver
[10:24] <apachelogger> one insane dep that is
[10:25] <apachelogger> oh wellz
[10:25] <apachelogger> I broke kde44 on karmic
[10:51] <apachelogger> and hopefully fixed it
[10:59] <a|wen> apachelogger: why make kde-service-menu-fuseiso non-native in the first place, and then we want to override the build/install system? beats me a bit
[11:44] <Blizzz> apachelogger: i have a support case with this dependency problem. can you notify me when the fix is uploaded?
[11:49] <a|wen> apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kde-service-menu-fuseiso <-- changed
[12:52] <Riddell> shtylman: kubuntu-menu.png is in kubuntu-default-settings now
[13:09] <apachelogger> Blizzz: the complete system removal does not seem to be caused by the python stuff
[13:10] <apachelogger> a|wen: there is no policy that states upstream needs to provide a build system :P
[13:10] <apachelogger> or you could stick with cmake, but use dh_install for the packaging ;)
[13:11] <a|wen> apachelogger: true; but makes it a bit more portable (isn't that the idea of the non-native part :) ) ... i have kept the cmake part (well, it is done and works), and just changed the packaging to ignore it and use dh_install
[13:11] <Blizzz> apachelogger: system removal?
[13:11] <apachelogger> ah
[13:12] <apachelogger> nvm
[13:12] <apachelogger> my sources.list was a bit messed up
[13:12] <apachelogger> Blizzz: all should be good again
[13:12] <apachelogger> until the next backport of kdebindings appears
[13:12] <Blizzz> apachelogger: good, great, ty
[13:12] <apachelogger> that dep is super insane
[13:13] <apachelogger> a|wen: oh, I am good with upload then
[13:13] <apachelogger> a|wen: though if non-native means portable than people should not be allowed to use qmake :P
[13:13] <Blizzz> apachelogger: sounds like fun...
[13:14] <apachelogger> well I think the fact that python-kde4's deps breaks when a new python-qt4 gets pushed tells everything
[13:14] <Blizzz> right
[13:14] <a|wen> apachelogger: throw and advocate at it, and i'll go ahead and upload (i also closed the bug on kubuntu-meta about it in the changelog in the latest upload)
[13:15] <a|wen> apachelogger: hopefully qmake is dying and cmake will conquer the world ;)
[13:16] <apachelogger> a|wen: btw, the additional motu advocate is more of a recommendation, not a requirement ;)
[13:17] <a|wen> apachelogger: i know ... but a second pair of eyes does never hurt ;)
[13:18] <apachelogger> well I adovated your previous upload anyway
[13:29] <a|wen> apachelogger: uploaded ... thx againg for looking at it
[13:45] <apachelogger> yw
[14:05] <ryanakca> maco2: Yes, we won 18-0 :)
[15:46]  * Riddell updates kdebase-workspace for security issue
[16:03] <apachelogger> security \o/
[16:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ping
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[16:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you testbuild the new kfi in pbuilder?
[16:43] <apachelogger> cause codewise it is finished IMHO
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: needs to use kdesudo --desktop
[16:44] <apachelogger> alraedy done
[16:44] <apachelogger> DEB_DH_BUILDDEB_ARGS += -- -Zlzma
[16:44] <apachelogger> is that still necessary?
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> hrm
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> unless Riddell has ported over the lmza support to kde.pm in pkg-kde-tools, then it probably still is necessary
[16:46] <Riddell> I haven't
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: package ftbfs in pbuilder
[16:49] <apachelogger> nice
[16:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: please do so :)
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> Can't exec "cmake": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Dh_Lib.pm line 179.
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> needs cmake build-dep
[16:50] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: and kdelibs5-dev I suppose?
[16:50] <apachelogger> or latter, which pulls in former anyway?
[16:50] <apachelogger> drop gettext though
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> ha, yeah
[16:50] <apachelogger> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.3.16), quilt, pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.5.0),
[16:50] <apachelogger>  kdelibs5-dev
[16:51] <neversfelde> someone already working on including this security patch for kdebase-workspace?
[16:51] <Riddell> neversfelde: uploading now
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: with the proper build deps, it builds fine
[16:52] <apachelogger> cool
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: so debian/patches can go now that you fixed the image links in the .qss?
[16:52] <apachelogger> pot file also looks fine
[16:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: no, I was just silly and didnt remember the patches ;)
[16:53] <apachelogger> going to revert in a bit
[16:53] <JontheEchidna> kk
[16:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please try with r40
[16:56] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: Needs a quilt README.source for: W: kubuntu-firefox-installer source: patch-system-but-no-source-readme
[16:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: r41 got that too
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> r40 pbuilds perfectly
[16:59] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: k, can you upload?
[16:59] <apachelogger> I cant build src pkg :D
[16:59] <apachelogger> only karmic here
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> sure
[17:00] <JontheEchidna> vi deb/ch
[17:00] <JontheEchidna> oops
[17:00] <apachelogger> dont forget to run debcommit -R -r afterwards :P
[17:06] <apachelogger> oh shit
[17:06] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we have arch all :D
[17:06] <JontheEchidna> :D
[17:08] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: uploading fix
[17:08] <apachelogger> kthx ... debcommit -R -r ;)
[17:09] <JontheEchidna> ;)
[17:11] <apachelogger> cool
[17:11] <apachelogger> build only takes 5 minutes :)
[17:12] <JontheEchidna> the binary is only 20k larger than the old binary too
[17:14] <JontheEchidna> now we need to give kpackagekit commandline batch support so we can throw a stake in install-package and gdebi-kde
[17:16] <JontheEchidna> neat, debcommit handles tagging
[17:16] <apachelogger> aight, that is why I want everyone to use it ;)
[17:16] <apachelogger> one of the reasons anyway
[17:17] <neversfelde> last time I tried debcommit -R -r, there was a problem
[17:18] <neversfelde> I cannot remember what it was exactly, but it did not work :)
[17:24] <apachelogger> well, you should not do it anyway, but the uploader :P
[17:24] <apachelogger> plus I suppose the problem was that you did not change the UNRELEASED :P
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> hmm, the patches to the .qss file aren't being applied
[17:30] <apachelogger> insanity!
[17:30] <JontheEchidna> maybe it explicitly needs --with quilt when not using source format 3.0 (quilt)?
[17:30] <apachelogger> you and your build magic :P
[17:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: does it even install quilt?
[17:30] <JontheEchidna> quilt is a build-dep
[17:30] <apachelogger> oh
[17:30] <apachelogger> then I suppose it needs the with quilt?
[17:31] <JontheEchidna> testing
[17:36] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight c++ ruby
[17:36] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help googlefight'
[17:36] <apachelogger> omg
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ya, that was it
[17:36] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight cpp ruby
[17:36] <kubotu> ruby (65,000,000) vs. cpp (22,600,000) -- ruby wins!
[17:36] <apachelogger> ruby ruby ruby
[17:37] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight JontheEchidna apachelogger
[17:37] <kubotu> apachelogger (79,500) vs. JontheEchidna (14,400) -- apachelogger wins!
[17:37] <apachelogger> yay :P
[17:37] <JontheEchidna> :P
[17:37] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: googlefight kubotu ubottu
[17:37] <kubotu> ubottu (23,800) vs. kubotu (9,120) -- ubottu wins!
[17:37] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight kde gnome
[17:37] <kubotu> kde (40,900,000) vs. gnome (19,500,000) -- kde wins!
[17:37] <apachelogger> kay dee eee!
[17:38] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight irc jabber
[17:38] <kubotu> irc (47,400,000) vs. jabber (10,000,000) -- irc wins!
[17:38] <apachelogger> cool
[17:39] <apachelogger> hmmm
[17:39] <apachelogger> kubotu: help googlefight
[17:39] <kubotu> googlefight <keyword 1> <keyword 2> [... <keyword n+1>] => battles given keywords based on amount of google search results and announces the winner!
[17:39] <apachelogger> oh
[17:39] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight linux windows mac
[17:39] <kubotu> windows (792,000,000) vs. mac (320,000,000) vs. linux (288,000,000) -- windows wins!
[17:39] <apachelogger> that is rather sad
[17:40] <mistrynitesh> kubotu: googlefight dumb smart
[17:40] <kubotu> smart (238,000,000) vs. dumb (34,600,000) -- smart wins!
[17:40] <apachelogger> ^^
[17:40] <Blizzz> kubotu: googlefight konqueror firefox opera chrome arora safari
[17:40] <kubotu> firefox (210,000,000) vs. opera (160,000,000) vs. chrome (112,000,000) vs. safari (58,400,000) vs. arora (4,400,000) vs. konqueror (2,860,000) -- firefox wins!
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> googlefight rekonq arora konqueror
[17:41] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: googlefight rekonq arora konqueror
[17:41] <kubotu> arora (4,400,000) vs. konqueror (2,860,000) vs. rekonq (152,000) -- arora wins!
[17:41] <apachelogger> arora is a bit of a misnomer
[17:41] <apachelogger> so is chrome
[17:41] <apachelogger> safari too
[17:41] <JontheEchidna> heh, yeah
[17:41] <Blizzz> true
[17:41] <Blizzz> well, same with windows. there are windows everywhere.
[17:42] <apachelogger> well, I doubt it maters much with 792m
[17:43] <JontheEchidna> hrm @ bug 521705
[17:43] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: googlefight kpackagekit adept
[17:43] <kubotu> adept (7,370,000) vs. kpackagekit (232,000) -- adept wins!
[17:43] <JontheEchidna> again, not fair :P
[17:43] <apachelogger> true
[17:43] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight kpackagekit aptitude
[17:43] <kubotu> aptitude (9,920,000) vs. kpackagekit (232,000) -- aptitude wins!
[17:43] <Blizzz> apachelogger: i think so. each building has windows. there are companies building them. moste operating systems use windows. and on and on and on
[17:44] <apachelogger> kubotu: googlefight kpackagekit aptitude apt synaptic wget
[17:44] <JontheEchidna> there should be a googlefight distro where the default software lineup is determined by googlefight
[17:44] <kubotu> apt (40,100,000) vs. aptitude (9,920,000) vs. synaptic (7,750,000) vs. wget (2,410,000) vs. kpackagekit (232,000) -- apt wins!
[17:44] <apachelogger> there
[17:44] <apachelogger> apt and be done with it
[17:44] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yah, if only we had the server resources :D
[17:45] <Blizzz> kubotu: googlefight konversation quassel irssi
[17:45] <kubotu> konversation (1,800,000) vs. irssi (438,000) vs. quassel (92,000) -- konversation wins!
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: googlefight konversation quassel irssi mirc
[17:45] <kubotu> mirc (10,100,000) vs. konversation (1,800,000) vs. irssi (438,000) vs. quassel (92,000) -- mirc wins!
[17:46] <JontheEchidna> !visternal
[17:46] <JontheEchidna> kubotu: googlefight konversation quassel irssi mirc xchat
[17:46] <kubotu> mirc (10,100,000) vs. xchat (2,860,000) vs. konversation (1,800,000) vs. irssi (438,000) vs. quassel (92,000) -- mirc wins!
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> oh noes, that would mean GoogleFight linux would include xchat. DO NOT WANT
[17:47] <apachelogger> no
[17:47] <apachelogger> it would include mirc!!!
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> mirc w/ wine?
[17:47] <apachelogger> yus
[17:47] <apachelogger> only if that fails it would use xchat
[17:47] <Blizzz> kubotu: googlefight wine beer
[17:47] <kubotu> wine (165,000,000) vs. beer (102,000,000) -- wine wins!
[17:47] <apachelogger> wine ftw!
[17:47] <Blizzz> crazy
[17:49] <Blizzz> kubotu: googlefight  kate vim emacs nano
[17:49] <kubotu> kate (101,000,000) vs. nano (69,600,000) vs. vim (14,000,000) vs. emacs (6,630,000) -- kate wins!
[17:50] <Blizzz> names again
[18:08] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:08] <_Groo_> anyone alive?
[18:08] <Nightrose> nope
[18:08] <Nightrose> all gone
[18:08] <Nightrose> what do you need? ;-)
[18:09] <_Groo_> hey Nightrose
[18:09] <_Groo_> dput is still broken? i cant upload anything to ppa, ence i can contribute with new packages :( in this case, kx11grab and skrooge
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> eww @ old konq ico: http://img96.imageshack.us/i/lucidinstall1.png/
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> shtylman: ^
[18:10] <_Groo_> its so slow a 65K (yes kilobytes) is taking half an hour
[18:10] <_Groo_> is this happening with everyone? or am i the only one "special" ? :P
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> shtylman: if you have ubiqutiy commit access, please also consider running the "optimizegraphics" tool from kdesdk-scripts package across the ubiquity filetree. It'll lossessly optimize all .png and .svgz in teh tree
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> the savings won't be more than a few dozen kb in most cases, but every little bit helps :)
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: ^ would probably be a good idea to run optimizegraphics on kubuntu-docs periodically too
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> I shall return
[18:48] <mischasworld> hello, any nepomuk specialists on board? I'm running karmic with kde sc 4.4 and  nepomuk doesn't find anything, db should be in the new format (deleted the old one) and strigi is indexing?
[18:55] <groo_> mischasworld: did you choose what to index in systemsettings?
[18:56] <mischasworld> groo: yes i did indexer is also running, when i look in .kde/shares/app/nepomuk there is a db > 0 bytes too
[19:00] <groo_> mischasworld: no no, in the second tab you need to say WHAT you want to index.. did you choose your home dir or something like that?
[19:01] <groo_> is virtuoso running and nepomuk mysql?
[19:05] <mischasworld> groo:yes i did choose what to index ; nepopukserver is running how do i see virtuoso is runnig ps -C virtuoso list nothing?
[19:07] <apachelogger> groo_: nepomuk mysql?
[19:07] <apachelogger> wth is that
[19:09] <apachelogger> mischasworld: the binary is called virtuoso-t
[19:10] <mischasworld> apachelogger: thanks this file seems to be missing in /usr/bin do you know in which package it is so i can install it
[19:10] <apachelogger> virtuoso-nepomuk
[19:11] <apachelogger> or something like that
[19:11] <apachelogger> oh right, I meant to add that to the dependency chain
[19:12] <mischasworld> apachelogger: but i have installed virtuoso-nepomuk even uninstalled it and installed it again
[19:21] <Riddell> mischasworld: and is virtuoso-t running?
[19:21] <Riddell> that'll give you tagging and ratings and whatnot
[19:21] <Riddell> getting strigi (file indexing) working is another matter which I haven't managed yet
[19:24] <Riddell> Lex79: grabbing your extragear et al updates to upload, it'll take a while because my flatmate is uploading a 30GB file of something
[19:25] <shtylman> Riddell: well tell him to stop... you have important work to do :)
[19:26] <jjesse> 30gb that's a lot of p0rn
[19:26] <mischasworld> riddel: yes its running, in etc/init.d/virtuoso-nepomuk theres a call to /usr/bin/virtuoso-t but in the virtuoso-nepomuk  package there is virtuoso-t in /usr/lib/virtuoso/virtuoso-t  just copeid it to /usr/bin nut its still not working
[19:26] <Riddell> map data is what turns him on
[19:26] <shtylman> O.O
[19:27] <jjesse> haha
[19:27] <jjesse> open street map stuff?
[19:27] <Riddell> mischasworld: well if it's running then that's good, does tagging work?
[19:27] <Riddell> jjesse: yes, for symbian phones, the whole planet needs reformated
[19:28] <jjesse> wow
[19:28] <Riddell> anyone looked at Amarok 2.3 beta 1 ?
[19:28] <mischasworld> riddell: tagging in dolphin works
[19:28] <jjesse> i know the open street map folks did a great job in haiti
[19:29] <Riddell> mischasworld: grooy, so nepomuk works just the strigi integration which doesn't, which as I say, I haven't had working either
[19:29] <Riddell> maybe this new version of strigi I'm about to upload will help
[19:29] <soee> Riddell: can u give me some link to amarok 2.3 b1?
[19:30] <Lex79> ok Riddell
[19:30] <mischasworld> riddell: ok thank you for the information, good to know im not the only one ;-)
[19:35] <groo_> Riddell: hey riddell, python-kde4 is broken again
[19:36] <groo_> Riddell: on anotehr news, i made new packages for skrooge and kx11grab... should i open a [needs-packaging) for them?
[19:36] <groo_> Riddell: and upload to revu?
[19:38] <apachelogger> jjesse: how is 30gb a lot of p0rn? :P
[19:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: stirgi works here
[19:38] <jjesse> apachelogger: ummm i gues if it is all HD quaility??
[19:39] <apachelogger> jjesse: that is not even a lot in default wmv insanity :P
[19:39] <jjesse> sorry not up on my porn size :)
[19:41] <groo_> python-kde4 dependencies broken again lol.. whats up with the version~ thats creeping around now and then
[19:45] <neversfelde> bug #521705  needs a Won't fix
[19:47] <apachelogger> groo_: wah?
[19:48] <apachelogger> neversfelde: are we sure?
[19:48] <apachelogger> oh right
[19:48] <apachelogger> groo_: on lucid?
[19:49] <groo_> apachelogger: yep
[19:49] <Riddell> groo_: or just upload to revu and ping us with the url
[19:50] <groo_> apachelogger: are yo guys able to upload to ppa via dput? i cant upload anything for 2 weeks now.. speed (or lack of) below 0.5k
[19:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: kdebindings got all insane deps for python-kde4
[19:50] <apachelogger> it restricts dep to exactly the verison that it was built against
[19:50] <apachelogger> and by exactly I mean including the package revisions
[19:51] <apachelogger> so since today I bumped the ubuntuX revision of python-qt4, -kde4 is now broken because it cant satisfy the python-qt4 dep anymore
[19:51] <apachelogger> groo_: no problems within the last 2 weeks or today
[19:52] <groo_> apachelogger: not with me, i cant upload basically anything :(
[19:52] <apachelogger> not dput's or ppa's fault
[19:52] <apachelogger> maybe your isp broke something or something is wrong on your end
[19:52] <groo_> apachelogger: i also made the final kmix pulseaudio support, same shit i cant upload it
[19:53] <persia> groo_: Maybe try uploading patches and asking for testers, if dput isn't working
[19:53] <groo_> apachelogger: well everything else works just fine, im using google dns and everything always worked fine..
[19:54] <groo_> persia: very nice in theory but kubuntu devs are lazy bastards ;) i have trouble making them aprove my work already :D
[19:54] <apachelogger> oi!
[19:54] <apachelogger> I aint am no bastard
[19:54] <groo_> Uploading kx11grab_0.1.12-0~padoka1.tar.gz: 13k/67k
[19:54] <groo_> been here for half and hour now
[19:54] <groo_> in all its 67k glory :P
[19:55] <groo_> apachelogger: didnt you ever read BOFH?
[19:55] <apachelogger> no
[19:55] <groo_> apachelogger: go read it then... and youll see that bastard is actually a compliment
[19:55] <groo_> in IT anyway
[19:56] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I do not think, that we really consider to switch the default package manager 4 days before feature freeze?
[19:57] <apachelogger> ScottK might disagree :P
[19:57] <apachelogger> besides, it mustnt be a new one
[20:03] <groo_> apachelogger: also i disagree with the bug, kpackagekit is not useless
[20:19] <jjesse> afternoon... updated my lucid vm today and after logging in i am presented w/ a black screen adn a white mouse
[20:22] <bulldog98> can confirm this: <apachelogger> so since today I bumped the ubuntuX revision of python-qt4, -kde4 is now broken because it cant satisfy the python-qt4 dep anymore
[20:26] <bulldog98> would be nice if two of you guys could check http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy I uploaded the new release couse it makes it usable for kde sc 4.4
[20:31] <bulldog98> it is only a bugfixrelease
[20:31] <persia> That definitely doesn't need two reviewers then.
[20:32] <bulldog98> ok
[23:01] <JontheEchidna> hmm, no kubuntu iso's since the 9th?
[23:14] <ScottK>  Nope, they've been failing to build.  I didn't have time to check why.
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> are there fail logs somewhere that anyone can read?
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> or is it archive-admin-console-y privileges?
[23:20] <persia> JontheEchidna: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/
[23:20]  * JontheEchidna bookmarks
[23:20] <persia> JontheEchidna: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/lucid/ is the precursor (also interesting)
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:26] <JontheEchidna>   kdebase-runtime: Depends: plasma-scriptengine-javascript but it is not installable
[23:26] <JontheEchidna>                    Recommends: virtuosoconverter but it is not installable
[23:27] <Philip5> hi guys! just wondering if you want bugs reported on Launchpad or somewhere else for the Kubuntu Backports PPA repsitory?
[23:28] <Philip5> i miss headers in the kdepim-dev_4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2 package so I can't use it to build stuff against kdepim
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> Philip5: launchpad is fine, I think that's an issue in lucid as well
[23:31] <Philip5> JontheEchidna: couldn't find any bugs reported for the kde 4.4 repository so i wasn't sure if it was the place
[23:31] <neversfelde> mhh, I tell everyone not to report bugs about PPA packages in Laucnhpad, am I wrong here?
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> in this case it's the same in lucid
[23:37] <neversfelde> ah ok