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gregcoithi all.  if I want to branch just a part of a trunk, is that possible?00:49
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MTecknologyKangOl: ({)03:06
MTecknologyKangOl: wrong person - orry03:15
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magciusIf I register a VCS import to mirror, is there a way to use bzr to push back upstream?03:45
magciusBecause otherwise VCS imports seem kind of useless03:45
MTecknologymagcius: they're primarily used so you can pull the branch and deal with it using bzr; upstream accepts patches in whatever way they feel appropriate03:46
magciuseek03:46
MTecknologymagcius: the thing I like about vcs imports is that it doesn't matter what version control system they use (it matters some due to limitations right now), you just do bzr pull and you have latest03:47
MTecknologycvs, svn, or git03:47
magciusMTecknology, yeah, well I primarily use git.03:47
MTecknologymagcius: if you like git and you're working close with upstream, you may as well jsut pull their git branch03:48
MTecknologyuse git to interact unless you really hate git03:48
magciusMTecknology, no, I'm trying to use a third-party project that uses SVN.03:48
magciusAnd they have a bzr mirror on Launchpad03:48
MTecknologysvn isn't too bad03:48
magciusI can't stand it.03:48
magciusI try to merge, it tries to compute and talk with the server for 35-40 minutes before it fails.03:49
MTecknologyya, a merge in bzr, you can generate a diff to send upstream03:49
MTecknologybzr diff > patch.diff03:49
MTecknologydoesn't matter what they use, diff is universal :)03:50
wgrantmagcius: If it's a new Subversion import, you can push back to svn.03:50
persiaWell, not really, but patch understands just about all the formats.03:51
magciuswgrant, from bzr?03:51
wgrantmagcius: Yes.03:51
magciuswgrant, nice nice.03:51
magciuswgrant, what username will it try to use?03:51
wgrantmagcius: You will tell it.03:51
magciuswgrant, alright03:51
micahgwhat are the grounds for banning an abusive user?04:28
wgrantI'm not sure that there are strict well-defined guidelines.04:29
* micahg has a user making unprovoked personal attacks in bugs04:30
wgrantThat probably counts, if they've been warned.04:30
micahgidk if the user has been warned, this happened this evening04:31
micahgI posted a link to the CoC in 3 bugs as the user's tone was not in line with the Coc04:31
persiaSomehow attaching a patch ended up happening *twice* for bug #519427.  I'm having huge latency issues with my browser right now, but I wouldn't have expected this behaviour.05:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519427 in rng-tools "fails to start using TPM device as rng" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51942705:47
persiaIs this likely to be a bug, or just me having browser issues?05:48
wgrantThey were added almost a minute apart, and with different input, so it's probably an issue on your end.05:50
crimsunOOPS-1506EA14006:08
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1506EA14006:08
crimsun(retry was successful)06:09
sebnerwgrant: dpkg is now fixed. What needs to be done until the build machines are fixed too?09:53
wgrantsebner: cjwatson (or similar) need to backport that dpkg (or patch) to hardy-cat.10:07
HalabundWhen translating using Launchpad, are there any tricks for finding pieces of strings more easily?  E.g. I see something in the UI, how can I find it, apart from explicit search using the top right search box?  Is there perhaps a way to restrict the search to certain source files?11:59
HalabundOr perhaps is there a case sensitive search?12:01
KangOlbazaar.launchpad.net give me a "Internal Server Error" :/12:43
rezaHi, I have a .po of elgg software file. I want to upload it, Where can I upload that ?12:44
HalabundIt would be helpful to be able to see not just one, but several other languages while translating.13:51
riochI'm ready to make a release for my project. The code in my trunk (and only) branch is up to date. I have some questions. What do I do now? Do I select 'create release from milestone'? What does that do? Do I need to upload files directly (e.g. a source dist) or does that happen automatically?13:59
riochis anyone around?14:27
riochI want to create a new series, but am not sure what branch to use.14:28
riochShould each series have it's own branch? Please help.14:42
thrasholdHow do you anonymously checkout something from a launchpad bzr repo?14:42
riochthrashold: bzr branch lp:<name of branch>14:43
riochthrashold: the trunk is the same name as the project name14:43
rioche.g. bzr branch lp:pumped (my project)14:43
thrasholdOh, the notice that I wasn't logged in wasn't an error, I see.14:43
thrasholdThanks14:44
RenatoSilvaCan anyone please remove the automatic branch linking when the branch is trunk?16:07
RenatoSilvaif a bug has no branch linked, that means it was fixed in trunk16:07
RenatoSilvaor that you should add the separate branch in the bug16:08
maxbBy 'trunk' you mean the development focus?16:12
maxbI don't think that should happen. If a bug has no branch linked, it may not have a fix in launchpad at all16:15
askhl_I can't use 'apt-get source' to get the source from my PPA.  Is there anything I can do to make this possible?16:37
andrea-bsaskhl_: have you added the "deb-src" line to your sources.list?16:38
askhl_andrea-bs, maybe I haven't!  Let me check16:38
askhl_Ah, that *is* obviously the problem.  Thank you andrea-bs16:39
RenatoSilvamaxb: if a bug has no branch linked, it's implicit that it was fixed in trunk16:58
RenatoSilvamaxb: you don't tell a bug has a fix by linking branches, but by setting the status as FixCommitted16:58
RenatoSilvawell the suggestion was made17:52
RenatoSilvathanks all17:52
_Groo_hi/2 all18:08
_Groo_anyone alive?18:08
_Groo_dput is still broken? i cant upload anything to ppa, ence i can contribute with new packages :( in this case, kx11grab and skrooge18:32
_Groo_a 65k package cant even complete, total fail :P18:32
maxbgroo_: No, dput is not broken.19:09
magciusIs a hosted wiki feature in the works for 4.0?19:10
maxbIt's oft talked about but I've not heard anything about it being actually planned. But, you're unlikely to find anyone official around on a weekend to ask for certain.19:11
groo_maxb: i cant upload anything since launchpad was forced to delete a lot of stuff.. the upload ratio went to a crawl since..19:12
groo_maxb: like 0.5kb/sec19:13
groo_anyone responsible for the ppa.launchpad.net network around here? im having bottleneck problems20:05
thumpergroo_: ask a question on the soyuz project20:12
thumpergroo_: the soyuz guys are all in european time20:12
groo_thumper: what channel is the soyuz20:17
magciusgroo_, ask on Launchpad Answers20:17
thumperhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion20:17
thumpergroo_: ^^20:18
groo_thumper: thanks20:24
groo_thumper: can i manually upload to ppa using ncftp?20:27
thumpergroo_: I have absolutely no idea20:27
groo_thumper: or make dput use other ftp client20:27
groo_thumper: ok thanks20:28
persiamanual uploads should work just fine, although it will require significantly greater attention to detail than usual.  upload the .changes file *LAST*.20:29
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Lord-ReadmanMez, you here?21:32
Lord-Readmanthis is urgent21:32
MTecknologyLord-Readman: is it something anyone else can help you with?21:33
Lord-Readmanimmediate removal of a certain translator from our team21:33
Lord-Readmanhttps://launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/21:34
Lord-Readmanfrom English (United Kingdom)21:34
Lord-Readmanhe is suggesting and approving american english spellings21:34
Lord-ReadmanI have just spent the last 30mins cleaning up wrong translations21:34
Lord-Readmanand hes just on a role of making more errors21:34
Lord-ReadmanI sent examples to mez using launchpad contact21:35
Lord-Readmantranslating color as color instead of colour, and memorize as memorize instead of memorise21:35
MTecknologyit's 21:35 in Mez tim; it's possible he took off for the night21:36
Lord-Readmanhopefully not21:37
pooliespm: can you help with this ^^21:37
Lord-Readmanas this user is wreaking more by the second21:37
MTecknologyI'm noticing that the UK Translators team is open21:37
Lord-ReadmanMTecknology, do you have any control to temp block the user21:37
MTecknologyno21:37
Lord-ReadmanI may as well quit then, no point myself spending hours of effort on something for anyone to just come in and wreak it.21:38
MTecknologyjust use patience21:39
Lord-Readmanbut he has done over 200 translations already21:39
MTecknologyif they can freely join and approve bad translations, then there's a problem...21:39
Lord-Readmanjust copy paste21:39
Lord-Readmanall wrong21:39
Lord-Readmanis there a way to see exactly what a user has done21:40
Lord-Readmanso this can be cleared up21:40
MTecknologypoolie: are you familiar with translations?21:40
poolienot very21:40
pooliei just know spm can do emergency operations like that21:41
MTecknologyLord-Readman: I think you should be able to grab all current translations, then keep that around21:41
Lord-Readmanis spm around?21:43
MTecknologyno21:43
MTecknologyThere's also ianto that you could talk to but they're not around either21:43
Lord-ReadmanWell i sent a message to the guy telling him to stop21:45
Lord-Readmanand he is still at it21:45
maxbmwhudson: are there any losas around at this time?21:45
Lord-Readmanit will take days to fix21:45
mwhudsonmaxb: no :(21:45
mwhudsonLord-Readman: i have the vague idea that it is possible to remove translations by a particular user21:46
MTecknologyLord-Readman: the problem here is that ~ubuntu-l10n-en-gb should be a moderated team21:46
Lord-Readmanit was when I joined21:46
Lord-Readmanneed mez quickly21:46
Lord-Readmanmwhudson, I really hope so21:47
Lord-Readmanso who are the admins I need to see about fixing this?21:50
MTecknologyLord-Readman: either Mez or ianto should make the team moderated, remove the user from the team, then go to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and request any translations by that user be removed21:53
Lord-ReadmanI am doing it manually now21:53
Lord-Readmanhe seems to have paused21:53
MTecknologyI sent him a message earlier21:54
MTecknologyit's most likely just a user that thought they were doing good21:54
thumperLord-Readman, MTecknology: spm should be online shortly I think21:54
thumperMTecknology: I agree, most mistakes are not malicious21:55
Lord-Readmannope, I but there are ALOT, and it is clear he has no understanding of British English21:57
Lord-Readmancenter to centre, gray to grey, color to colour21:57
Lord-Readmanand is just causing harm and NO good21:57
Lord-Readmanwhich is not the Ubuntu spirit21:57
MTecknologyLord-Readman: nah - the ubuntu spirit is humanity toward others; accidentally causing problems happens21:58
Lord-Readmanwe'll now I can't go to bed21:58
Lord-Readmanas he has started translating again21:58
Lord-Readmanand can copy paste faster than I can read21:59
thumperLord-Readman: which user?21:59
jpdsspm: https://launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/21:59
Lord-Readmanhttps://translations.launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/21:59
jpdsErr, thumper ^--.21:59
Lord-ReadmanI am on the +activity cleaning up the many mistakes22:00
lifelessthumper: CHR can disable22:01
lifelessthumper: e.g. you22:01
thumperlifeless: do you know how? cause I don't22:01
lifelessthumper: look at their account page ;)22:01
lifelessLord-Readman: uhm colour is received english22:02
MTecknologyno, the servers22:02
thumperoh yeah22:02
MTecknology*wrong chan22:02
thumperLord-Readman: user suspended22:03
Lord-Readmangreat22:03
Lord-ReadmanI will fix it all unless someone can just remove all his translations22:03
thumperI can't do anything with translations, perhaps spm can22:03
thumperLord-Readman: perhaps ask a question on the rosetta project22:04
thumperLord-Readman: that way it can be tracked22:04
lifelessLord-Readman: I don't understand why changing color to colour is bad22:04
lifelessfor en-gb22:04
Lord-Readmanno lifeless22:04
lifelessit would certainly be appropriate for en-au22:04
Lord-Readmanhe did color and copied it to color22:04
Lord-ReadmanNOT changing it to colour22:04
lifelessoh22:04
Lord-Readmanhe didnt change anything22:05
thumperhmm..22:05
lifelessyes thats bad ;)22:05
Lord-Readmanjust copy pasted22:05
Lord-Readmanhe left center as center instead of changing it to centre22:05
Lord-Readmanetc22:05
lifelessare his translations being marked fuzzy ?22:05
lifelessperhaps one thing that could be done is a 'mark fuzzy' update to the db - but ask a question on rosetta for sure.22:05
Lord-Readmanjust remove them all and politely tell him we can translate our own language and he can freely translate English to Polish by all means22:06
Lord-Readmanso who removed him and what shall I now tell mez?22:13
Lord-Readmanto lock the team again?22:13
MTecknologyLord-Readman: Mez can catch up on the backlog here and he'll know what to do22:13
Lord-ReadmanWell I have around 200 more translations he made to check22:14
Lord-Readmanthen its all sorted22:14
thumperLord-Readman: I suspended his launchpad account22:15
thumperLord-Readman: you should tell Mez to remove him from the team (probably needs to have his account reactivated)22:16
MTecknologythumper: at least they only joined one team and were only involved in one activity22:16
thumperLord-Readman: we can probably get a losa to do all that22:16
thumperLord-Readman: perhaps you should consider making the translation team restricted?22:16
thumperLord-Readman: and have more than one admin for the team to allow others to act as well22:17
Lord-ReadmanI do not have the authority to do so22:17
thumperLord-Readman: well, tell mez to do so22:17
Lord-Readmanwell if mez would like me to help out I certainly would22:17
MTecknologyThe other admin of the team is ianto22:18
Lord-ReadmanAll fixed22:25
Lord-Readmanthats an hour and a half I could have spent doing translations myself22:25
MTecknologyLord-Readman: just need to relax :)22:25
MTecknologythings happen, they were most likely trying to help but didn't know what they were doing22:26
Lord-ReadmanI suppose, I sent a PM to mez saying that if I can be a moderator to help him out I gladly will.22:28
MTecknologyLord-Readman: I do wish they responded to my request so we could handle it without admin intervention in here22:28
MTecknologyLord-Readman: btw - this may be a nice read for you - http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml22:30
Lord-ReadmanI know, it wastes everyone's time, I apologise for the combined time wasted by the user, but many thanks for getting it resolved.22:30
Lord-ReadmanI will take a read22:30
MTecknologyLord-Readman: also, you should look into doing a few extra things and try out becomming an ubuntu member22:32
Lord-ReadmanSomeone showed me Ubuntu, I now use ubuntu, I show others ubuntu, and reading things like "dialog box" instead of "dialogue box" (enUS instead of enGB) annoyed me, So i wanted to help out, thus have done over 40k strings so far and Lucid only has 30k to go. (easily doable before the release)22:35
MTecknologyLord-Readman: that's awesome22:36
Lord-ReadmanIf I can help out in other areas I would, but I am not a programmer, translating into enGB is the one big thing I can do at the moment22:37
MTecknologyLord-Readman: btw - April 14th - last to do translations22:37
Lord-Readman1000 aday is no problem22:37
MTecknologyLord-Readman: on April 15th the last import for Lucid will take place22:37
Lord-ReadmanI plan on seeing it 99-100% done on the 15th of March22:38
MTecknologyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule22:38
MTecknologyYou should apply for ubuntu membership after this release22:39
Lord-ReadmanWhat are the benefits of Ubuntu membership?22:39
MTecknologyubottu: membership22:40
ubottuWant to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember22:40
MTecknologyLord-Readman: that page, then follow the last link22:40
MTecknologythere's a section "Benefits of Membership"22:40
Lord-ReadmanI will maybe look into that, but after I have got my language translated, that more important22:42
Lord-ReadmanI think I will try get it all done by beta122:42
Lord-Readmanas others are doing them aswell22:42
MTecknologythat's a lot of translations - would be impressive22:42
MTecknologyI need to run out to a site to fix a router that's down....22:43
MTecknologyttyl22:43
MTecknologygood luck22:43
MTecknologyLord-Readman: just need to remember- the spirit of ubuntu- friendly, helpful, welcoming, foregiving22:44
wgrantpersia: The order of upload shouldn't actually matter to Soyuz.22:54
persiawgrant: Really?  I thought it periodically scanned and sent failure if it found a .changes file with unsatisfied dependencies.23:02
wgrantpersia: No. That's how traditional systems do it, but Soyuz transparently creates a new directory for each upload and moves it into the search path only when the upload session terminates.23:06
persiawgrant: So in the case where uploads are breaking repeatedly, it's not actually possible to use some arbitrary resuming ftp-client to push stuff?23:09
lifelesspersia: no23:09
persiaOh well.23:10
geserwgrant: do you know by chance if gina (?, the script that updates the LP Debian "mirror") has currently any issues?23:12
poolieheh, trying to revoke any oauth keys give 'permission denied'23:15
geserpoolie: known bug23:16
poolieyep, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/51156723:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 511567 in launchpad-foundations "Can't remove authorised oauth tokens" [High,Triaged]23:16
wgrantpersia: It all has to be in the one FTP connection.23:25
wgrantgeser: Any particular packages?23:25
wgrantSome will be failing due to bugs in the currently installed version of dpkg, but it shouldn't be many.23:25
geserwgrant: clxclient23:25
geserwgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/clxclient lists 3.6.1-1 while the PTS page for it lists 3.6.1-1.1 uploaded on 2010-02-0523:26
geserit's also a v1 package23:27
wgrantI can't see any reason that it would be failing, and it's a package-specific failure.23:28
wgrantSo it'll need somebody with log access.23:28
geserok, thanks anyway23:29

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