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jp--hi guys. can I compile/downgrade the kernel using apt-get install linux-source and then copying to /usr/src a copy downloaded from kernel.org and then compile it and make deb packages?03:58
* persia idly wonders if make-kpkg works properly for Ubuntu04:04
billy12Im sorry to bother ya'll, but dose any know what the BIN file name for "Hardware Drives" is in 9.10?06:39
czajkowski /c08:15
cjwatsonjp--: why would you do anything at all in /usr/src? :-)  Even Linus has been telling people to stop compiling kernels in there for a good decade now ...09:00
jp--cjwatson, anyway, I didn't finally compile it. Just switched to a better version of ubuntu :) thanks for replying though!09:01
cjwatsonjp--: to answer your question, the upstream kernel has 'make deb' targets I believe, but of course on your head be it - you'll have to be careful about the config.  I would start from 'apt-get source linux' rather than 'sudo apt-get install linux-source', if I hadn't delegated all my personal kernel-building to my distribution years ago :-)09:14
jp--:) hehe thanks09:15
sebnercjwatson: thanks for merging dpkg!09:49
jp--cjwatson, I need your help, if you can.09:58
jp--I play this using sudo: sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav09:58
jp--but when I try to do it on a normal user, it says: audio open error: No such device09:58
jp--any ideas?09:58
jp--ouch. user groups.10:01
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ari-tczewhello ubuntu-main-sponsors, please sponsor fake sync @ bug 511448 thanks11:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 511448 in libxml-security-java "Fake sync libxml-security-java 1.4.3-2 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51144811:46
bdrungpitti: i have some questions how the batch sync works (and how we can implement the XfakesyncY)14:03
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keesalright, who broke apache17:36
keeszul: mysql-cluster-7.0 breaks libmysqlclient-dev17:47
keesmysql-dfsg-5.1 and mysql-cluster-7.0 provide libmysqlclient16 libmysqlclient16-dev but the latter is version 7, which breaks mysql-dfsg-5.1's libmysqlclient-dev17:49
geserand the problem is only visible on AMD64 currently as the i386 build of mysql-cluster-7.0 FTBFS17:54
keesgeser: ah, good call, I was wondering why I'd only seen the amd64 failure emails17:55
keesI've opened bug 52181517:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 521815 in mysql-cluster-7.0 "breaks all builds requiring libmysqlclient-dev" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52181517:56
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dupondjeasac: <window id="main-window" when starting firefox since last update ...18:25
asacdupondje: new lang packs?18:25
asacArneGoetje: ^^18:25
asacdupondje: what locale are you running?18:25
dupondjedutch (nl-BE)18:25
asacmaybe hop into #ubuntu-mozillateam18:25
dupondjerunning it with LANG=C firefox it works18:25
asacdupondje: what locale are you using?18:26
dupondjedutch (nl-BE)18:26
asacok ... i am updating now ... let me see if its also for -de18:26
asactakes a bit. stay tuned18:27
dupondjepitti: you there ?20:06
* persia suspects not, given the hour and day of week20:07
dupondjeseems like language-pack-nl(-base) is broken :(20:08
persiaUgh.20:08
dupondjelanguage-pack-nl seems to provide a broken mozilla language file20:09
persiaBest bet is to file a bug.20:09
dupondjeit overwrites the mozilla language file of language-pack-nl-base20:10
dupondjei'll do :)20:10
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-nl/+bug/52187620:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 521876 in language-pack-nl "mozilla languages seems to get broken by last language-pack-nl upgrade" [Undecided,New]20:17
dupondjeits quite critical imo :)20:17
persiaProbably only "high" because it only affects nl20:17
persiaBut definitely in need of fixing soon.20:17
dupondjeit affects some more languages it seems20:18
dupondjemozilla doesn't run anymore because of it :)20:18
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zulkees: on it20:38
slangasekzul: what's your idea for fixing this?20:49
zulslangasek: i just removed it from mysql-cluster-7 for now20:50
slangasekzul: that doesn't solve the problem in the archive, though, since it's already been accepted on amd64 and taken over the binary package20:51
IDWMasterI found a workaround for the DEB upload problem I had yesterday. It is intermittent because Mono doesn't produce Debian-friendly makefiles.20:51
IDWMasterI fixed it by manually editing the makefiles.20:51
zulslangasek: ok then how do you suggest i fix it?20:51
slangasekzul: if I had a good solution, I'd have mentioned it already (or done it) :)20:53
zulslangasek: heh20:53
slangasekzul: I'm inquiring whether we can get soyuz to accept downgrading the binaries in lucid on a one-off basis20:53
slangasekand considering whether I should yank the broken binaries that have already been uploaded20:53
slangasekin fact, I'm reasonably convinced that the latter is sane anyway20:54
slangasek(it will break debootstrapping and CD builds and various package builds that are already broken, but will limit the spread of the damage)20:55
zulfrig...sorry about this20:55
kamalmostafaI'm still having trouble with requestsync.  slangasek, you reported that this worked for you in Lucid but I get the same problem with Lucid or Karmic.   Any more advice?...20:56
kamalmostafa   $  requestsync --lp -d unstable -s clxclient lucid20:56
kamalmostafa   E: Did not retrieve any changelog entries. Was the package recently uploaded? (check http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/)20:56
slangasekoh, this is odd; the source package says it ships libmysqlclient16-dev, but that's still at version 5.1.41-3ubuntu4 in the archive20:57
slangasekkamalmostafa: DNS issue or web proxy that's preventing requestsync from downloading the changelog entries?20:57
slangasekah, because libmysqlclient16-dev is Arch: all and i386 FTBFS, heh20:58
kamalmostafaslangasek: I don't use a web proxy, and I can see the updated changelog entry fine in my web browser http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/clxclient/current/changelog so I don't think it could be a DNS issue.   I had wondered if perhaps requestsync itself was somehow caching it, but I get the same problem in a fresh VM of Lucid alpha2 where it couldn't possibly be cached.   I'm bewildered.  Perhaps I should file jus21:01
slangasekkamalmostafa: you cut off at "should file jus"21:02
kamalmostafaPerhaps I should file just file a bug?21:02
slangasekbut I really don't know what's causing the problem for you, sorry.  The next step would probably be to trace requestsync and see what it's doing21:02
slangasekyes, filing a bug probably makes sense21:02
lifelesskamalmostafa: uhm21:03
lifelesskamalmostafa: I'd have a look at tcpdump / wireshark and see what actual request/response is going over the wire21:04
lifelessthat may well help you determine whether its environmental (and not something a software change will help) or a bug21:04
kamalmostafaslangasek: I'm no python-guru, but I'd be happy to add whatever the equivalent of /bin/sh's "set -x" to the top of requestsync, to collect more info for the bugreport.21:04
kamalmostafalifeless: slangasek can't reproduce the problem, so I do think its likely to be something different about my env -- hence hoping to sort it out locally before filing a bug -- thanks for the advice, I'll see what I can determine.21:06
slangasekzul: best idea I've come up with so far, which doesn't involve hard-resetting the package version number in soyuz, is to have mysql-dfsg-5.1 manually build the libmysqlclient16 package with a version number of 7.0.9-really-$curver21:15
slangasekzul: that can be scripted in the build, and the delta cleans itself up in the future when libmysqlclient16 really does advance past version 7.0921:15
slangasekthe only caveat is that, if libmysqlclient16 7.0.x adds new symbols, the shlibs need to have a minimum version strictly greater than 7.0.9-really-5.*21:17
zulslangasek: k looking21:17
slangasekif you get something together that you think does the job, I'm happy to review it before upload21:18
zulk21:18
zulslangasek: so you are just changing the package name arent you?21:18
slangasekno, the version number21:18
slangasekdpkg-gencontrol can take an option to force override the version number of the binary package21:19
slangasek(which can be passed via dh_gencontrol, if that's how you invoke dpkg-gencontrol)21:19
keeszul: we should try to fix this in soyuz if we can; I'd like to avoid a XreallyY in binary packages if at all possible.21:24
zuleither or21:26
slangasekright - I think it's good to have the package ready to go in case we decide that's the solution, but please don't upload it until we've exhausted other possibilities w/ soyuz21:28
geserkamalmostafa: have you checked if the changelog on PTS for that package is uptodate?21:38
slangasekgeser: running the same command here, I don't get this error21:39
kamalmostafageser: Yes, it does appear up to date (includes 3.6.1-1.1):  http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/clxclient/current/changelog21:39
geserok, as that caused some trouble in the past days as the changelogs didn't get updated21:39
zulslangasek: couldnt we use makeshlibs as well?21:41
kamalmostafaslangasek, geser: bug 52190421:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 521904 in ubuntu-dev-tools "requestsync fails: Did not retrieve any changelog entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52190421:42
slangasekzul: use it for what?21:44
zulslangasek: nm i was just reading the man page21:45
zulslangasek: i was thinking something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/376472/ but i have go feed my son so ill be back later thanks for you help22:07
geserkamalmostafa: good news, I can reproduce it22:07
kamalmostafageser: really!  Well, that is good news!22:07
geserkamalmostafa: the debian LP mirror didn't sync the new version yet, and LP still believes that 3.6.1-1 is the most recent version22:09
slangasekzul: aren't there other calls to dh_gencontrol already in the rules?  I would expect 'dh_gencontrol -Nlibmysqlclient16; dh_gencontrol -plibmysqlclient16 -v$version' to be sufficient22:09
geserI should make the error message more useful22:09
slangasekzul: also, you shouldn't hard-code the value of the -v option in rules, it should be derived from debian/changelog (it needs to automatically increment with each package upload)22:09
zulslangasek: ok ill fix when I get back22:10
kamalmostafageser: Oh, okay, so is this the same problem I keep having with "bzr branch" not yielding the latest version then?22:10
slangasekzul: ok - my apologies if lvm2 wasn't using debhelper, I didn't actually look at it before pointing to it as an example (it's hard to even come up with any examples of this)22:10
kamalmostafageser: and how is it that slangasek doesn't also experience the problem?22:10
geserkamalmostafa: no, as the package branches are independent of the LP mirror22:11
slangasekapparently I have REQUESTSYNC_MAGIC=1 set in my environment ;)22:11
geserkamalmostafa: slangasek didn't use --lp22:12
slangasekyes, I did22:12
kamalmostafageser: and actually, I can reproduce the problem with or with --lp.22:12
slangasekI was trying to reproduce his problem, and copied his commandline verbatim22:12
geserhmm22:13
kamalmostafaNo, I take that back.  I can **no longer** reproduce the problem without --lp but I certainly could 5 days ago.22:13
geserwith --lp I can reproduce it, without --lp it works here (I've an editor open with the changelog entry)22:13
kamalmostafaI remembered that --lp versus no --lp was the solution to my previous requestsync problem, so it was the first thing I tried.22:14
geserI don't know when exactly the changelogs get fixed but they weren't up-to-date in the recent days22:14
slangasekoh, y'know what22:14
slangasek$ requestsync --lp -d unstable -s clxclient lucid22:15
slangasekChanges have been made to the package in Ubuntu.22:15
slangasekPlease edit the report and give an explanation.22:15
slangasekNot saving the report file will abort the request.22:15
slangasekPress [Enter] to continue. Press [Ctrl-C] to abort now.22:15
slangasekkamalmostafa's output didn't include that message, so I assumed I couldn't reproduce the bug22:15
slangasekbut if I hit enter, I get the error22:15
kamalmostafaAh... no REQUESTSYNC_MAGIC after all then?  ;-)  glad of that at least!22:16
kamalmostafageser: I will leave bug 521904 to you then, as a "make the error message more useful" request, yes?  Okay if I proceed with my clxclient request or will you need it left as is?22:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 521904 in ubuntu-dev-tools "requestsync fails: Did not retrieve any changelog entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52190422:20
geserkamalmostafa: I will as the soyuz guys why the LP mirror is not up-to-date for clxclient22:20
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kamalmostafageser, slangasek: thanks for all the help sorting this one.22:25
geserslangasek, zul: looking at the new FTBFS log for mysql-cluster-7.0: doesn't it now need to build-depend on libmysqlclient16 to let dpkg-shlibdeps succeed? (once this got resolved)22:34
dutchiehi, apologies if this is the wrong place, but would it be an enormous pain to sync texlive 2009 from debian testing? It seems a bit odd to be shipping 2007 in a distro released in 201023:11
lifelessdutchie: see the ubuntu wiki for developer docs; you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess23:12
dutchiesaw that, it looks quite scary23:12
geserdutchie: lucid will have TeXLive 200923:13
dutchiegeser: ah, sweet23:13
dutchiethanks23:13
lifelessdutchie: that is however the thing to check; irc is the wrong place ;)23:14
dutchielifeless: notice I didn't ask "Please sync it", I asked "Would it be a pain to sync it"23:14
dutchieif someone had come out and said "no, and here are reasons x, y and z", I would have said "Oh, OK, I won't bother going through the process"23:15
dutchieif nothing had happened, I would have gone ahead and done it23:16
dutchiebut, as it is, I don't have to care23:16
lifelesssorry for misjudging the request23:16
dutchieI probably didn't quite make it clear enough23:16
lifelesswe get a fair number of 'please do x' from folk that haven't looked at all23:16
dutchieI'm sure you do23:16
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