[01:57] <bjsnider> a lot of the upstream debian packages i'm seeing are set up in an unusual way. there's a debian/source/format file containing this: "3.0 (quilt)". pbuilder is ok with it, but the ppa build system rejects it.
[02:02] <superm1> I think that will only start working with lucid
[02:03] <bjsnider> i don't see h ow it's an improvement though. why is creating a new directory and file better than putting that info into the rules file?
[02:17] <kklimonda> bjsnider, this is a so called new source format and there are apparently good reasons to use it..
[02:17] <kklimonda> I just can't find them and it made my life harder ;)
[02:21] <bjsnider> good reasons are there?
[02:24] <superm1> bjsnider, http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/dpkg-source.html
[02:24] <superm1> there's a section there that explains what makes v3 cool
[04:59] <Sarvatt> hmm regarding the sigquit getting sent pressing enter - http://www.mail-archive.com/xorg@lists.freedesktop.org/msg07800.html
[05:03] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22679
[05:11] <Sarvatt> 4 boots without compiz and it hasn't happened, hmm
[05:15] <Sarvatt> doesnt seem to happen when i disable splash and X starts on VT1 either
[05:17] <Sarvatt> ..and just happened first boot with compiz+splash with X on VT7
[05:23]  * Sarvatt blames the input stuff added to plymouth recently for now
[09:23] <kklimonda> is it going to be possible to switch between nouveau and nvidia driver using jockey?
[14:12] <Sarvatt> kklimonda: yeah I imagine so, once its all in just disabling nvidia will drop you back to nouveau
[14:15] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: when VirtualBox fails to set a proper guest resolution for window screen size, is it a bug in VB, the X driver, or screen detection ?
[16:27] <jadams> I'm having some problems booting the lucid alpha (both my in-place upgrade and the livecd...to get the livecd to boot I have to add the safe graphics mode)
[16:28] <jadams> here are my Xorg.0.log from the last attempt - I'm using nouveau now, had the same problem with nvidia
[16:28] <jadams> http://gist.github.com/304115
[17:04] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: kklimonda: ^^^
[17:12] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, I have no idea :)
[17:58] <Sarvatt> jadams: you dont have xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed and you're using xserver-xorg-video-nv
[17:59] <Sarvatt> plus you're booting the karmic kernel
[18:00] <Sarvatt> it only works with 2.6.32-13 right now
[18:01] <BUGabundo> thanks Sarvatt
[19:01] <paran> will nvidia-glx be updated to 190 in lucid?
[19:03] <BUGabundo> isn't it already there?
[19:05] <bjsnider> paran, the 190.53 driver is in lucid, it is called "nvidia-current"
[19:07] <paran> hm, seems you are correct. The package nvidia-glx-185 in lucid is at version 190.53
[19:08] <paran> thanks :)
[19:08] <bjsnider> that is a transitional package
[19:09] <superm1> i'm still not keen on us needing to have transitional packages like that
[19:10] <superm1> but they're functional i suppose
[19:10] <bjsnider> they get 'er done
[19:10] <paran> The reason I missed it was that I only looked for a nvidia-glx-190 package
[19:11] <bjsnider> the changes to the driver are more than just in the name
[19:11] <bjsnider> completely new set of packaging scripts