[04:41] highvoltage, looks like my GDM problem wasn't a problem afterall, just VirtualBox being funny, so I should hopefully have Qimo Session packages this week [04:42] I'll ping you when they're ready, and we can see what our options are at that point === joerg is now known as Guest24048 === Guest24048 is now known as joerg [16:04] hi sbalneav [16:52] sbalneav, alkisg, nixternal: the Ubuntu Developer Board meeting is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting [16:52] would be good if you could attend, as you know we're applying for upload rights for all edubuntu packages for the edubuntu-dev group. would be nice if we could get this sorted out [16:54] * alkisg will try to make it - might be back home at 15:20, though... :-/ [16:54] Thanks highvoltage [16:55] alkisg: that should be fine, I guess it will take them a few minutes to get everything rolling [16:58] hi [17:05] hi joerg [17:05] do you know the gosa project? [17:05] it is an easy peasy ldap gui thing [17:06] to manage users, groups, hosts, whatever stuff you can put into ladp [17:06] ldap [17:06] thought it might be interesting to provide that as option for the school server project :) [17:07] so had a look at it, and well....the ubuntu slapd uses that new directory-style config - so schemas need to be converted to ldif. [17:07] I downloaded the stable gosa release, ldif files already included. [17:07] but completely broken. [17:07] somebody did search and replace with a text editor on the old. *.schema files and replaced a bit too much :) [17:07] I fixed them all [17:08] opened a ticket about it and attached a patch. [17:08] the project leader closed the ticket and marked it as "fixed". [17:08] what he did? he simply removed the broken *.ldif files and said: better none than unmaintainend :) [17:58] Morning everyone [18:12] morning Lns [18:12] hi highvoltage [18:12] Lns: there's an Ubuntu Developer Board meeting tomorrow in #ubuntu-meeting at 15:00 UTC, would be nice if you could join, we're applying for the upload rights so that members of edubuntu-dev would be able to upload any edubuntu related packages if needed [18:13] Hey I had an idea the other night.. are there any facilities for something of a "virtual ppa" ? What I mean is, maybe a PPA URL that simply 'contains' an administrated list of other PPAs..kind of like a ppa group [18:13] joerg: sorry I was in other channels, didn't see your messages yet :) [18:14] highvoltage: that's great! Would it be advantegous for me to be there even though I'm not really a part of edubuntu-dev? [18:14] Lns: that would be nice for ppa's that depend on packages in other ppa's [18:14] Lns: currently, no one is part of edubuntu-dev, but it will be formed hopefully soon :) [18:15] ah cool =) [18:15] Lns: but you are on the Edubuntu Council who will be administering the Edubuntu Developers group, so although not strictly necessary, it would be nice to have you there [18:16] highvoltage: exactly. A good example could be some sort of 'edubuntu ppa' where we could pull from other PPAs such as if there were a tux4kids/gcompris/etc ppa with newer packages [18:16] Lns: you can just copy the packages [18:16] highvoltage: so 15:00 UTC is ... 7AM here..yikes ;) [18:17] That's what I do with my own PPAs, I copy whatever I find useful, so that my schools need only have my PPAs in their sources. [18:17] alkisg: yeah but that creates an inconsistency that manually has to be updated too [18:17] Lns: that's a feature you'll have to discuss with the Launchpad team though. perhaps suggest it on #launchpad :) [18:17] Lns: inconsistency? [18:17] alkisg: if the original ppa gets updated, yours doesnt..? [18:17] Sure, that's a good thing [18:17] Are you sure that you trust the newer version? [18:18] it is definitely a good thing in some cases, in others it might be better to have them link to the original developer ppa too :) [18:18] both have good use cases [18:19] For that to work, you'd either need to accept unsigned packages, or put all of the linked ppa keys to your apt keyring [18:22] or, there could be some sort of inhereting functionality with the "virtual ppa" [19:17] vmlintu, hey....are u there? there's a little typo in part 1 of your excellent ldap setup guide ;) [19:21] joerg: hi.. [19:23] vmlintu, it's in init_database.ldif [19:24] vmlintu, line 5 [19:24] joerg: dc: edu ? [19:24] vmlintu, yepp [19:25] hmm.. what it should be? (I'm slow today) [19:25] hmm.... [19:26] vmlintu, trying to find it :D [19:26] are you getting an error somewhere? [19:27] vmlintu, the thing is, I have done that ages ago [19:27] and it didn't work. I fixed it and it worke. [19:27] just don't know where I have that file.... [19:28] did you use the file as-is or did you modify it? [19:29] vmlintu, well, didn't use example.org :) [19:30] did you change dc=edu on the dn line? [19:34] vmlintu, mhhmm.... [19:34] vmlintu, I cannot find it. [19:34] edu is correct in that case :-/ [19:35] vmlintu, mhhm....was my mistake probably :) [19:35] vmlintu, the host is demo.myserv-project.org [19:36] maybe I change the edu to org and it didn't work :) [19:36] because it must be demo [19:36] if you use dc=demo,dc=myserv-project,dc=org for it, dc needs to match the demo [19:58] vmlintu, yepp.....I know....strange [20:41] does anyone think it'd be a horrible idea to try and install libasound2 package from 8.10 into 8.04? I'm trying to satisfy a dependancy for newest version of rdesktop in stgraber's ppa [20:44] horrible, no. Not recommended certainly. [20:46] if you really want that you should backport the source package itself instead of dropping in the binary. [21:01] crimsun: thx.. I just ended up installing from source =) [21:02] rdesktop isn't seeing my win2k3 VM's sound device. I can log in through vmware and use it fine, but an 'rdesktop -r sound:local doesn't work :( [21:02] it's weird because pretty much a duplicate setup over at another school works fine [21:25] Lns: err, that may cause issues... [21:26] Lns: if you have a locally-compiled (/usr/local/lib) alsa-lib in addition to a distro-provided one (in /usr/lib), you should be aware of other packages possibly misbehaving unless recompiled against the newer one. [21:27] crimsun: thanks - i just figured it out from gadi - was a windows setting i had to disable (ts config: disable audio device mapping) [22:35] hi [22:35] does edubuntu support roaming profiles? [22:40] when you use ltsp you your profiles are quite mobile [22:42] do you know if any of Canonical course offerings cover this? There's a Debian-Edu/Skolelinux admin that wants to migrate to Ubuntu if this option is available and if he can get training [22:43] there's ltsp training happening soon that's provided by upstream LTSP I believe, but as far as I know that's just in the US [22:43] highvoltage: Isthe edubuntu team planning to work closer with DebianEdu/SkoleLinux? I know a whole bunch of the Skolelinux people here in Norway and if you guys would like to get in touch I could arrange something [22:44] huayra: we have distant contact, sbalneav hangsout in their irc channel and maintains our relationship with them [22:44] they have contacted me earlier (I am the contact member of the Norwegian LoCo) about this [22:44] I see [22:44] huayra: it would certainly be nice to have a better working relationship with them [22:45] huayra: would be nice if you hang around too! [22:45] I am going to tak with the community guy over there and see what he thinks [22:45] huayra: sbalneav is also upstream LTSP so he could possibly give you some more info on that too [22:45] I am adding the channel to my autojoin list ;) [22:45] awesome :) [22:45] highvoltage, thanks a lot! [22:46] and thanks to you, huayra [23:44] highvoltage, https://launchpad.net/~scratch/+archive/ppa/+packages the Scratch package for Lucid is available [23:45] I should have some for Qimo tomorrow (expecting final art tonight) [23:55] mhall119: cool [23:56] highvoltage, I used the email address he has listed in LP, and he's pretty responsive if you guys need something from him while reviewing it