[04:41] <mhall119> highvoltage, looks like my GDM problem wasn't a problem afterall, just VirtualBox being funny, so I should hopefully have Qimo Session packages this week
[04:42] <mhall119> I'll ping you when they're ready, and we can see what our options are at that point
[16:04] <highvoltage> hi sbalneav
[16:52] <highvoltage> sbalneav, alkisg, nixternal: the Ubuntu Developer Board meeting is tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:52] <highvoltage> would be good if you could attend, as you know we're applying for upload rights for all edubuntu packages for the edubuntu-dev group. would be nice if we could get this sorted out
[16:54]  * alkisg will try to make it - might be back home at 15:20, though... :-/
[16:54] <alkisg> Thanks highvoltage
[16:55] <highvoltage> alkisg: that should be fine, I guess it will take them a few minutes to get everything rolling
[16:58] <joerg> hi
[17:05] <highvoltage> hi joerg
[17:05] <joerg> do you know the gosa project?
[17:05] <joerg> it is an easy peasy ldap gui thing
[17:06] <joerg> to manage users, groups, hosts, whatever stuff you can put into ladp
[17:06] <joerg> ldap
[17:06] <joerg> thought it might be interesting to provide that as option for the school server project :)
[17:07] <joerg> so had a look at it, and well....the ubuntu slapd uses that new directory-style config - so schemas need to be converted to ldif.
[17:07] <joerg> I downloaded the stable gosa release, ldif files already included.
[17:07] <joerg> but completely broken.
[17:07] <joerg> somebody did search and replace with a text editor on the old. *.schema files and replaced a bit too much :)
[17:07] <joerg> I fixed them all
[17:08] <joerg> opened a ticket about it and attached a patch.
[17:08] <joerg> the project leader closed the ticket and marked it as "fixed".
[17:08] <joerg> what he did? he simply removed the broken *.ldif files and said: better none than unmaintainend :)
[17:58] <Lns> Morning everyone
[18:12] <highvoltage> morning Lns
[18:12] <Lns> hi highvoltage
[18:12] <highvoltage> Lns: there's an Ubuntu Developer Board meeting tomorrow in #ubuntu-meeting at 15:00 UTC, would be nice if you could join, we're applying for the upload rights so that members of edubuntu-dev would be able to upload any edubuntu related packages if needed
[18:13] <Lns> Hey I had an idea the other night.. are there any facilities for something of a "virtual ppa" ? What I mean is, maybe a PPA URL that simply 'contains' an administrated list of other PPAs..kind of like a ppa group
[18:13] <highvoltage> joerg: sorry I was in other channels, didn't see your messages yet :)
[18:14] <Lns> highvoltage: that's great! Would it be advantegous for me to be there even though I'm not really a part of edubuntu-dev?
[18:14] <highvoltage> Lns: that would be nice for ppa's that depend on packages in other ppa's
[18:14] <highvoltage> Lns: currently, no one is part of edubuntu-dev, but it will be formed hopefully soon :)
[18:15] <Lns> ah cool =)
[18:15] <highvoltage> Lns: but you are on the Edubuntu Council who will be administering the Edubuntu Developers group, so although not strictly necessary, it would be nice to have you there
[18:16] <Lns> highvoltage: exactly. A good example could be some sort of 'edubuntu ppa' where we could pull from other PPAs such as if there were a tux4kids/gcompris/etc ppa with newer packages
[18:16] <alkisg> Lns: you can just copy the packages
[18:16] <Lns> highvoltage: so 15:00 UTC is ... 7AM here..yikes ;)
[18:17] <alkisg> That's what I do with my own PPAs, I copy whatever I find useful, so that my schools need only have my PPAs in their sources.
[18:17] <Lns> alkisg: yeah but that creates an inconsistency that manually has to be updated too
[18:17] <highvoltage> Lns: that's a feature you'll have to discuss with the Launchpad team though. perhaps suggest it on #launchpad :)
[18:17] <alkisg> Lns: inconsistency?
[18:17] <Lns> alkisg: if the original ppa gets updated, yours doesnt..?
[18:17] <alkisg> Sure, that's a good thing
[18:17] <alkisg> Are you sure that you trust the newer version?
[18:18] <Lns> it is definitely a good thing in some cases, in others it might be better to have them link to the original developer ppa too :)
[18:18] <Lns> both have good use cases
[18:19] <alkisg> For that to work, you'd either need to accept unsigned packages, or put all of the linked ppa keys to your apt keyring
[18:22] <Lns> or, there could be some sort of inhereting functionality with the "virtual ppa"
[19:17] <joerg> vmlintu, hey....are u there? there's a little typo in part 1 of your excellent ldap setup guide ;)
[19:21] <vmlintu> joerg: hi..
[19:23] <joerg> vmlintu, it's in init_database.ldif
[19:24] <joerg> vmlintu, line 5
[19:24] <vmlintu> joerg: dc: edu ?
[19:24] <joerg> vmlintu, yepp
[19:25] <vmlintu> hmm.. what it should be? (I'm slow today)
[19:25] <joerg> hmm....
[19:26] <joerg> vmlintu, trying to find it :D
[19:26] <vmlintu> are you getting an error somewhere?
[19:27] <joerg> vmlintu, the thing is, I have done that ages ago
[19:27] <joerg> and it didn't work. I fixed it and it worke.
[19:27] <joerg> just don't know where I have that file....
[19:28] <vmlintu> did you use the file as-is or did you modify it?
[19:29] <joerg> vmlintu, well, didn't use example.org :)
[19:30] <vmlintu> did you change dc=edu on the dn line?
[19:34] <joerg> vmlintu, mhhmm....
[19:34] <joerg> vmlintu, I cannot find it.
[19:34] <joerg> edu is correct in that case :-/
[19:35] <joerg> vmlintu, mhhm....was my mistake probably :)
[19:35] <joerg> vmlintu, the host is demo.myserv-project.org
[19:36] <joerg> maybe I change the edu to org and it didn't work :)
[19:36] <joerg> because it must be demo
[19:36] <vmlintu> if you use dc=demo,dc=myserv-project,dc=org for it, dc needs to match the demo
[19:58] <joerg> vmlintu, yepp.....I know....strange
[20:41] <Lns> does anyone think it'd be a horrible idea to try and install libasound2 package from 8.10 into 8.04? I'm trying to satisfy a dependancy for newest version of rdesktop in stgraber's ppa
[20:44] <crimsun> horrible, no. Not recommended certainly.
[20:46] <crimsun> if you really want that you should backport the source package itself instead of dropping in the binary.
[21:01] <Lns> crimsun: thx.. I just ended up installing from source =)
[21:02] <Lns> rdesktop isn't seeing my win2k3 VM's sound device. I can log in through vmware and use it fine, but an 'rdesktop -r sound:local <ip_of_win_svr> doesn't work :(
[21:02] <Lns> it's weird because pretty much a duplicate setup over at another school works fine
[21:25] <crimsun> Lns: err, that may cause issues...
[21:26] <crimsun> Lns: if you have a locally-compiled (/usr/local/lib) alsa-lib in addition to a distro-provided one (in /usr/lib), you should be aware of other packages possibly misbehaving unless recompiled against the newer one.
[21:27] <Lns> crimsun: thanks - i just figured it out from gadi - was a windows setting i had to disable (ts config: disable audio device mapping)
[22:35] <huayra> hi
[22:35] <huayra> does edubuntu support roaming profiles?
[22:40] <highvoltage> when you use ltsp you your profiles are quite mobile
[22:42] <huayra> do you know if any of Canonical course offerings cover this? There's a Debian-Edu/Skolelinux admin that wants to migrate to Ubuntu if this option is available and if he can get training
[22:43] <highvoltage> there's ltsp training happening soon that's provided by upstream LTSP I believe, but as far as I know that's just in the US
[22:43] <huayra> highvoltage: Isthe edubuntu team planning to work closer with DebianEdu/SkoleLinux? I know a whole bunch of the Skolelinux people here in Norway and if you guys would like to get in touch I could arrange something
[22:44] <highvoltage> huayra: we have distant contact, sbalneav hangsout in their irc channel and maintains our relationship with them
[22:44] <huayra> they have contacted me earlier (I am the contact member of the Norwegian LoCo) about this
[22:44] <huayra> I see
[22:44] <highvoltage> huayra: it would certainly be nice to have a better working relationship with them
[22:45] <highvoltage> huayra: would be nice if you hang around too!
[22:45] <huayra> I am going to tak with the community guy over there and see what he thinks
[22:45] <highvoltage> huayra: sbalneav is also upstream LTSP so he could possibly give you some more info on that too
[22:45] <huayra> I am adding the channel to my autojoin list ;)
[22:45] <highvoltage> awesome :)
[22:45] <huayra> highvoltage, thanks a lot!
[22:46] <highvoltage> and thanks to you, huayra
[23:44] <mhall119> highvoltage, https://launchpad.net/~scratch/+archive/ppa/+packages the Scratch package for Lucid is available
[23:45] <mhall119> I should have some for Qimo tomorrow (expecting final art tonight)
[23:55] <highvoltage> mhall119: cool
[23:56] <mhall119> highvoltage, I used the email address he has listed in LP, and he's pretty responsive if you guys need something from him while reviewing it