=== dmbq is now known as Guest31556 [00:16] weird... I still have no ureadahead. [00:33] Is it just me or has Lucid's bootsplash changed? [00:34] Is anyone else having issues with GDM freezing when trying to login? [00:34] mesula, nvidia? [00:34] ZykoticK9: Intel [00:34] mesula, i have to alt+sysrq+k in order to login almost every time... [00:34] The problem may be related to how Ubuntu boots me to console and I have to switch to GDM. [00:35] ZykoticK9: What does that do? [00:35] mesula, restarts GDM [00:36] If I keep updating, up to when Lucid gets released, will all these annoying bugs get fixed? [00:37] mesula, if people (like you) report them... maybe [00:39] mesula, but this is still alpha quality - don't expect it to work [00:39] Damn. nm-applet broke and now I won't be able to connect to the internet and update. :( [00:40] I hope plugging in the ethernet cable and running dhclient will work. [00:40] Stupid Ubuntu has made me overly dependant on GUI tools. [00:40] kklimonda: I'm not expecting it to work. That's why I installed it on the PC I rarely use. [00:41] kklimonda: I still use 9.10 on my main PC and won't upgrade until 10.04 is ready. [00:43] 9.10 has problems with my Wi-Fi, though. :( [00:45] !find cnetworkmanager [00:45] Package/file cnetworkmanager does not exist in lucid [00:45] aah, so it's not just ARM. [00:45] that's missing it. [00:46] Is Banshee still being considered as the default music player? [00:47] not for lucid [00:48] mesula, i assume you're a KDE user? As there is no Banshee on my Gnome system -- Rhythmbox is the default music player here (not that I use it but...) [00:48] ZykoticK9: Gnome [00:49] ZykoticK9: I knew Banshee was being considered for Karmic. [00:49] it was but it wasn't ready [00:54] kklimonda, says you [00:58] mesula, wicd solves a lot of wifi probs , except for usb wifi adapters [00:58] bjsnider, there was a list of blockers to fix before banshee can be considered to be a replacement for the rhythmbox [00:58] BluesKaj: One of my Wi-Fi adaptors uses USB. [00:59] mesula, which chip does it use ? [00:59] BluesKaj: RT73 [01:01] mine's the rt2870 , mesula, and i've done everything short of buying anew one, but it just doesn't connect. [01:05] anyway I use eth0 99% of the time [01:06] 100% now :) ...it did work with wicd in jaunty tho [01:06] it=wifi [01:18] I just installed foxit (with bin) & acroread (from DEB), but I didn't find acroread in Partner Repo - was this user error, or is it not currently there? [01:18] DanaG, why did you want to load an older uboot onto a rev c4 beagle? [01:18] I thought it was newer, judging by date of last change. [01:18] ZykoticK9, dear god, why would you want to use acroread? [01:18] Turned out it wasn't. [01:19] But that "older" one also offered usb-serial support. [01:19] DanaG, ah, k. Yes, the uboot on rev c4 is much newer than what was on c3 and earlier [01:19] yes [01:19] I went back to the one mentioned in the Angstrom article about validating. [01:19] I think that's available on the newer one still, just not turned on by default [01:19] cwillu_at_work, lol - that's why I started with "I just installed foxit..." in hope of discouraging criticism for the acroread question :) [01:19] s/turned on/configured/ [01:20] ZykoticK9, and I saw straight through your deception [01:20] cwillu_at_work, :) [01:21] cwillu_at_work, by way of comparison foxit is a 3.6MB download, acroread 60.5MB - what bloat? [01:22] bloat doesn't concern me terribly, but considering acrobat's track record for performance and remote execution vulnerabilities, I'm failing to see why one would willingly use it [01:23] hmm, trying to use dbus-send... bluez api says: [01:23] Service org.bluez Interface org.bluez.Manager Object path / [01:23] array{object} ListAdapters() -- how would I call that? [01:24] the syntax is in man dbus-send [01:24] ::= array::[,...] [01:25] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34918 [01:25] ah. [01:26] ah, better documentation is in the source of bluez, "test" dir. === commander__ is now known as _CommandeR_ [02:45] weird... I logged in to gnome, and got compiz working, yet all the window borders are missing! [02:46] read(3, 0x20094c4, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [02:46] lots of that going on. [02:47] ureadahead-other terminated with status 4 [02:52] DanaG, nothing in ~/.xsession-errors ? [02:54] Starting gtk-window-decorator [02:54] Starting gtk-window-decorator [02:54] yeah, it's in there twice in a row. [02:55] maybe your theme is broken [02:55] It works fine if I killall gtk-window-decorator and then relaunch it. [03:01] hmm, I wonder why my sreadahead aborts. [03:48] weird: povray is giving me this: [03:48] File Init Error: Writing to '/home/dana/valentine2_ref.tga' is not permitted. [03:51] oo [03:52] weird... apparently povray.conf tells it it's not allowed to write to my home dir! === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [05:47] http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/678 [05:48] hmm, I wonder if I should bother making an ubuntu bug report to match this upstream one. [06:19] hmm , is it just me or does gedit no longer create backups when saving a file [06:21] vish, it's a setting on the Editor tab of Preferences [06:21] ZykoticK9: i didnt change it and even with that , it didnt create backups [06:21] * vish tries again [06:22] vish, seems to be working here? [06:22] ZykoticK9: huh,... worked here too o.0 [06:23] vish, no wonder i have so many fewer files ending with ~ ;) [06:23] ZykoticK9: a couple of days back it didnt work when i tried the prefs even :s not sure how it started working ;) [06:24] vish, with Lucid - it is not our place to ask why ;) [06:24] :) [06:25] ZykoticK9: ha , there was an update recently :D [06:25] which probably fixed it [06:26] well glad it's working for ya [06:28] oooh , me like the sound of this > * New upstream version: - Misc bugfixes [06:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extace/+bug/399565 [06:40] Ubuntu bug 399565 in fftw3 "extace crashed with SIGSEGV in fftw_execute()" [Undecided,New] [06:40] hmm, I suppose I should mark that confirmed..... [06:53] W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-cluster-7.0/libmysqlclient16_7.0.9-1_amd64.deb [06:53] 403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] [07:36] ubufox contains only ask.xml, no other searchplugins. Is this by design? Should I file a bug? [07:42] Hmm, removing ubufox made the problem go away: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/355112 [07:42] Ubuntu bug 355112 in ubufox "Ask.com keeps being re-added to Firefox search bar after updates" [Undecided,Confirmed] === geser_ is now known as geser [08:41] morning [09:16] anyone about? [09:16] since upgrading to 10.04-pre, I have no IPv6 [09:16] this is a big problem for me as all my systems use ipv6 for communications [09:18] if I set Network Manager to "auto" it times out too fast and I get nothing, 9.10 I could set to "ignored" and it would actually work (using RADVD) - 10.04 it doesn't. [09:18] you mean it doesn't get a response from a wifi/dhcp server before the time out [09:18] ikonia: correct [09:19] oops,, still opped [09:19] how did you set the time out in 9.10 ? [09:19] but my old machine gets ipv6 without problem [09:19] did you set a time out in the older ubuntu release ? [09:20] ikonia: I didn't, I set Network manager to "ignored" for IPv6, the system still got an address from RADVD on the router. [09:21] looks like there's already a bug for it on launchpad for Network manager [09:21] bug #284874 [09:21] Launchpad bug 284874 in network-manager "IPv6 address no longer assigned via radvd" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284874 [09:22] faie enough [09:22] think it should be hight importance, it completely breaks my network :( [09:22] fair even [09:22] seems like worth posting a request for a priority upgrade [09:22] and scripting round it :-) [09:23] I have "remote" IPv6 on my laptop (ipv6 is the only way I can ssh into mine & work servers. hense it being rather important [09:23] Mohero, if you do an "lsmod" do you see ipv6 listed? I certainly don't on my system, I wonder if the kernel module for IPV6 has been renamed or if it's not being loaded for some reason? [09:24] ZykoticK9: I can manually add the IPv6 address / route / DNS and it all works. [09:24] it's just it doesn't get it automagically [09:24] interesting, ok just thought i'd throw my 2 cents in :) best of luck to you [09:25] I think ipv6 is built in, and not a module these days. I'll get the code and look, seem to remember it's built in, though [09:27] ZykoticK9: we no longer have ipv6 as module [09:27] its built in [09:27] BUGabundo_remote, well that would explain why it's not there then. Thanks. === om26er_ is now known as om26er [11:43] question [11:43] why is /tmp no longer tmpfs ? [11:45] I found that weird too [11:45] but debian did that too [11:48] I added an fstab entry mounting a tmpfs there, and so far nothing has obviously broken [11:48] /tmp has not been tmpfs for a long time [11:49] mostly because the files in /tmp are getting quite large, eg burning CDs/DVDs, viewing PDFs, etc [11:50] and there's no need for it to be a tmpfs, as it is cleared out at boot [11:53] tsimpson, yep, but it looks like my upgrade from karmic to lucid broke some things - ureadahead errors and no packfiles creation and /tmp does not get cleaned (the script exits with $? = 127), so my first thought was... "Hey, if it was tmpfs then it should have been erased automagically"... [11:53] FIred lucid vm with clean install and ureadahead and /tmp cleaning works fine there [11:55] how are you noticing those failures? [11:56] marienz, i have nvidia card and plymouth was not that happy to start displaying nice graphical boot. init messages get printed to the terminal on boot [11:56] rye: ah, I guess I should turn splash off the next time I boot then [11:57] but plymouth is the last thing i'd like to debug, since due to its failure I could debug ufw bug that left system w/ broken firewall on lucid [11:57] * marienz generally doesn't pay attention to boot anyway, as long as it gets him to a working desktop eventually === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [12:28] hi .. [12:29] why http://paste.ubuntu.com/376824/ this package need to remove while want to upgrade to lucid [12:31] ejat, deprecated / unused packages. [12:32] I can vouch that pulseaudio-module-udev has been merged into the main pulseaudio package. [12:32] so in lucid .. ubuntu-desktop are not use anymore ? [12:32] ic .. [12:32] so pulseaudio-module-udev has to be removed to resolve that conflict. [12:32] so is it ok .. if i just do the dist-upgrade ? [12:32] ejat, erm, no :) [12:32] ejat, use update-manager [12:32] mean .. need to do a fresh install for lucid ? [12:32] sudo update-manager -d [12:33] owh ok .. update-manager -d [12:33] hows ya personal comment for lucid in alpha2 stage ? [12:33] that is the safe way (it downloads a script to take care of all the nastiness dpkg/apt can't handle :) [12:33] :) .. owh ok [12:33] ejat, it's going very well [12:33] how about projector ? work out of the box ? [12:34] mean .. extended screen [12:34] I don't use gnome... but my build of lucid is swimmingly well. [12:34] ibuclaw: u use ? [12:34] ejat, I don't have a projector / external monitor, so I can't comment. [12:34] owh .. [12:35] u use xfce ? kde ? [12:35] ejat, openbox [12:35] ic .. [12:35] thinking to upgrade it now :) [12:36] ejat, it is quite minimal in comparison, but set up correctly, can do wonders on a netbook =) [12:36] brb.. [12:37] mountall & ureadahead: what if my /var partition separated from / ? Is anybody running such configuration here? [12:56] hi [12:56] I was sent here from #ubuntu, though I believe I have a generic question: how can I rebuild a .deb package, not having a source repository to it? specifically: I want to rebuild the kernel packages from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.33-rc8/ after applying a patch to the kernel [12:57] maroy: pastebin your sources.list [12:58] http://pastebin.com/m449b91e9 [12:58] maroy: because you claim the source repository only does not exist in 10.04... [12:58] maroy: do you have the kernel-ppa repository elsewhere? [12:59] jrib, no, I added it a while ago, but it doesn't work, it won't find the Packages.gz file [12:59] and wouldn't find it for karmic either [12:59] maroy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/KernelPPA [13:00] yes, this is what doesn't work. look here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ubuntu/dists/ [13:00] it doesn't even have karmic... [13:00] maroy: yeah, so why are you trying to use this ppa? [13:00] hasn't been updated for a year [13:00] I need a recent kernel [13:00] but this is not my question [13:00] we're not getting anywhere [13:00] maroy: so follow ubottu's instructions on using git. [13:00] my question is: how would I recompile a .deb file [13:01] maroy: I told you already twice. [13:01] why are you not listening? [13:01] well, you haven't [13:01] !source | maroy [13:01] maroy: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [13:01] so: how do I recompile a .deb file? :) [13:01] maroy: you use the source package. [13:01] but there's _no_ apt-get source [13:01] man [13:01] as the repo doesn't work [13:01] never mind [13:01] ... [13:02] so use git... [13:02] people doing things they don't understand and then insisting on doing them their way... [13:02] * hyperstream shakes his head === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_remote [13:29] testing xchat-indicator :) [13:30] jonathonf, test [13:30] hmph... what's it supposed to do? i installed it without really knowing :D [13:31] so far it seems to load xchat and that's about it [13:31] * jonathonf looks it up [13:31] thanks, btw, rye [13:31] jonathonf, it looks like it should put something in the indicator applet [13:32] :) [13:32] well, it does that :D [13:32] i wonder if it would make a difference if i used xchat-gnome rather than plain xchat [13:32] looking ta the blog post i just found that's what he's using [13:33] http://blogs.gnome.org/kenvandine/2010/01/12/xchat-indicator/ [13:33] oh, no, should work the same [13:34] let's see what happens if i click the close button (i reckon xchat will quit) [13:42] :) [13:47] ok [13:47] tsimpson, how about /tmp filesystem on SSD ? [13:48] tsimpson, i believe it will make more writes than needed for flash devices and they will die faster [13:49] that would be a corner case [13:49] but, it probably wouldn't make that much of a difference [13:50] it's not like it's zeroing out the files, it's just removing the entry in the filesystem table [13:52] tsimpson, but with additional cleanup routine that can fail (as in my case) :( [13:54] I mean corner cases require specialization, perhaps the notebook remix should favour tmpfs, or make it an install option [13:54] or a boot option [13:55] * tsimpson points rye to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [13:58] hi [13:59] i noticed ubuntu lucid iso are too big to be burned on a 700 MB CD [13:59] today's iso, afaik [14:02] is this normal ? [14:03] Fallenou: Which one? amd64 or i386? [14:08] tsimpson, already there - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16244/ [14:44] Anyone got a blog etc. with pictures and text about the new things in Lucid Lynx? [14:45] saxin: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 [14:45] lucid lynx is lts, so don't expect a lot of fancy new blinking stuff [14:46] does ubuntu have a crash dump facility somewhere? [14:46] bjorkintosh: you mean apport? [14:47] vega: Thanks. You find it stable? :) [14:47] dunno, never used it :) [14:49] apport? hmm. let me see. [14:51] i'm about ready to hose my system completely of anything ubuntu. [14:51] yes, i know this is ubuntu+1, but it's the exact same problem, every single time. [14:51] i915 [14:51] the video card. [14:52] hi folks [14:59] jpds, all of them [14:59] sorry for the late answer [15:00] Fallenou: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [15:00] that's what i use [15:00] i used zsync to download from there [15:00] the alternate lucid amd64 is too big [15:00] it's more than 715 Mo [15:01] it does not fit into a 700 MB cdrom, even with extra capacity enabled [15:01] bjorkintosh, which video card ? [15:02] BluesKaj, i915 [15:02] Fallenou: who still uses CDs? [15:02] intel ? [15:02] yeah. [15:02] use an usbstick [15:03] it was working just fine under (ubuntu+1)-1 [15:03] everything else works. [15:03] except for that. [15:03] or netboot.me or BKO [15:04] BUGabundo_remote, it's done to fit into CDrom [15:04] only on milestones and release [15:05] not for dailies [15:05] hum i guess your right [15:05] i will try with usb stick [15:05] thanks [15:07] bjorkintosh, dunno, I suppose you've tried the driver from the intel site ? [15:08] BluesKaj, i've never had to use that at all. [15:08] but, i'll look into it. thanks. [15:08] http://intellinuxgraphics.org/user.html [15:08] thanks for that too. [15:08] that hopefully might solve that problem. [15:09] bjorkintosh, the url above [15:16] ehe my boss Debian PC got messed up by X updates, and is now installing Ubuntu Karmic ahhaha [15:31] anyone having issues with skype on ubuntu+1? [15:52] bjorkintosh, what kind of issues [15:55] the mic's sound is completely garbled, even though the mic works fine and i can hear it. [15:57] clarification: the mic's recorded output from skype sounds completely garbled. [16:02] bjorkintosh, I'll bet you have pulseaudio installed [16:04] your bet is correct. [16:04] is there an alternative to it? [16:04] or should i just remove the blasted thing? [16:06] bjorkintosh, some skype versions depend on pulseaudio , I use the skype_static-2.1.0.47 version which doesn't need PA ..PA is just a redundant sound server meant for fancy sound systems , not ordinary 2 channel setups like laptops [16:07] bjorkintosh, depending on which skype you have , your sound may ot may not work if you purge PA [16:07] ot=or [16:08] i have 2.1.0.81 [16:08] -1 [16:08] if i get rid of pulse, won't the audio for the other things just die? [16:08] well purge PA and see what happens , may be a reinstall might fix the sound [16:10] no, alsa-base and utils is the real kernel source driver on ubuntu anyway , so everything shouls work fine [16:10] BluesKaj, is alsa-base multiplexed? [16:11] yes , i think so , i can use 2 sources at once if that's what you mean [16:11] never tried more [16:11] sound sources [16:16] what precisely is P.A. needed for then? [16:16] it comes automagically [16:18] pulse gives you multiple audio streams at once [16:18] from where? [16:18] different cards? [16:19] different apps [16:19] can't the other services do that already? [16:19] it can do that, but i mean if you have two apps playing sound at once pulse makes that happen without glitches [16:19] ah. [16:19] it can combine sound cards, it can send sound to other computers [16:19] so i can't necessarily get rid of it, can i? [16:20] no one should want to get rid of it [16:20] bjsnider, without glitches ...interesting observation ...I get nothing but glitches with PA :) [16:20] BluesKaj, not my department. works fine here [16:21] well, my philosphy is ...if it works keep it , if it doesn't , say goodbye [16:21] BluesKaj, you should eliminate pebkac then :) [16:22] BluesKaj, have you told anyone about this, or do you suffer it in silence? [16:22] i think it's time to move to arch. [16:22] I believe most PulseAudio problems are because of underlying alsa issues, etc. that get manifested in Pulse Audio [16:22] this machine, has never once crashed. whereas i deal with 8 crashes or more in ubuntu. [16:23] bjorkintosh: are you using Lucid? [16:23] LaserJock, yes. [16:23] it also seems a bit more bloated for my needs than i'd like. [16:23] (ubuntu in general) [16:24] well, crashing is generally more common in the development release [16:24] though I personally don't have much problem [16:24] well, you guys can speculate about PA all you want , it distorts the sound and glitches on my setup so i just don't use it , that's all there is to it. [16:25] for bloat you could always try a lighter deriv like Xubuntu or Crunchbang [16:25] LaserJock, i only run xubuntu. [16:25] nothing else. [16:25] and it's still too bloated [16:26] LXDE might be better than [16:26] all you want is a kernel and a black screen with a blinking cursor [16:26] anything else is bloat [16:27] well, there's always Ubuntu Server :-) [16:27] bjsnider, that's what my debian-ppc is. [16:27] cool [16:27] a blinking cursor which is always logged into the xubuntu thingy... [16:27] sudo shutdown -r now is always up and ready when it dies. [16:27] that's how often it crashes. [16:34] if you guys had to suggest a multi user open source image/album gallery CMS, what would say? [16:35] bjorkintosh: don't like $ halt ? [16:35] eheh [16:35] always funny to see ppl write the all shutdown command [16:36] BUGabundo_remote, i've never used halt. [16:36] however, i use shutdown -r now so often, that it's almost always the most recent thing in my command history. [17:21] BUGabundo_remote, wordpress can do that [17:33] bjsnider: MEW [17:39] hi all. Who can help me with updating 10.04. Last week a new kernel didnt configure right and now it wants me to do 'dpkg --configure -a' all the time, but this command doesn't complete. There must be a command that lets me skip this step right? Anyone that knows a way to let me update again? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [17:44] Armi^, sudo dpkg --clear-avail [17:45] BluesKaj: k i'll try [17:46] Armi^, if that doesn't work, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock [17:52] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-dx-integration is headlined: "Integrating DX work into Lucid desktop." What is meant by 'DX work'? [17:54] work by the Desktop eXperience team [17:55] application indicators, me menu, etc === wouter__ is now known as Armi^2 [17:58] BluesKaj, tried both and problem is still there :( [17:59] BluesKaj, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [17:59] BluesKaj, it also says this: E: Couldn't rebuild package cache [18:02] Armi^2, are you familiar with the TTY , it's ashell like the terminal but without any graphics,ctrl+alt+f2 , then do service gdm stop , run the configure -a command , then startx [18:02] BluesKaj: sure, i'll try that [18:02] Is there a supported way of installing Skype yet for Lucid? I did a fresh install and so I don't have Skype left over from my karmic install [18:05] Nafai, download it from skype.com === wouter__ is now known as Armi^2 [18:05] Ah, I didn't realize they had packages there, I had always installed with something like mediabuntu [18:05] BluesKaj, that didnt help either [18:05] Nafai, yes but it depends on which version you want to run [18:06] Oh yeah? [18:06] Armi^2, I should have mentioned reboot :P [18:07] Nafai, I run the skype static version , it's not depenedent on pulseaudio [18:08] BluesKaj, this is the error that i'm getting: Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... [18:08] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic [18:08] cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh: Cannot stat: No such file or directory [18:08] update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic [18:08] dpkg: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [18:08] BluesKaj, should i still reboot and dpkg in tty? [18:08] BluesKaj: Is that the one downloaded from their website? [18:09] Armi^2, your latest kernel update failed, try an older one then update again [18:09] BluesKaj, k i'll do that [18:10] Nafai, yes, the static one on skype's site [18:11] thanks [18:33] BluesKaj: still no luck [18:34] BluesKaj: whatever i do, the 'dpkg --con....' error keeps popping up [18:38] Armi^, the last resort is to remove the offending kernel altogether with a package manager like synaptic , it's very effective , then restart [18:39] Armi^, but hang on for a minute , gonna check something [18:40] BluesKaj: k, just in time, was about to start synaptic ;) [18:42] BluesKaj: lol, even synaptic gives me the dpkg error and closes again :P [18:44] Armi^, try this again , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock [18:44] then sudo dpkg --configure -a [18:45] Armi^, and make sure the update notifier isn't running [18:45] what does sudo dpkg --configure -a do? I mean I've used it more than a few times successfully, but when I do I'm not sure what's happening [18:47] metricpiano, it basically stops any installs that can't pull down the required dependencies for applications [18:47] where can i c the screenshots of 10.04 [18:48] rabbil I don't think it looks any different from 9.04 or 9.10 personally what exactly are you looking for? [18:49] BluesKaj: no luck :( Did it in a tty and stopped gdm (so no update notifier), but as i said ... no luck [18:49] metricpiano: nothing ِimp, jus a curiosity [18:50] Armi^, well, my well is dry , short of a reinstall to / [18:50] well, not to be like "Google it", but there are screenshots under Google images... http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2625/4187174337_fa65b6f9ba.jpg for example [18:50] does 10.04 supports AMD64x with inbuilt nvidia graphics card ? [18:50]