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| owen1 | bug #123775 is 'linked to a milestone later' and it 'has a patch', priority=medium, not assigned, status=won't fix. what does all this mean? will it be fixed and when? thanks! | 05:13 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 123775 in linux "Elantech touchpad is incorrectly recogonised as a "ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse"" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123775 | 05:13 |
| owen1 | it's a big issue for many laptop users. we can't configure the touchpad. | 05:15 |
| lifeless | owen1: well it appears to have been fixed | 05:26 |
| lifeless | and folk are now piling onto the bug with similar but different symptoms | 05:26 |
| owen1 | lifeless: what do u mean? fixed and pushed or will be ready for 10.4? | 05:39 |
| lifeless | according to that bug's status, fixed for over a year | 05:39 |
| owen1 | lifeless: that's wierd. i can't configure my touchpad and i have the same issue. | 05:40 |
| lifeless | well, you have the same symptoms. Doesn't mean same issue (though it may be) | 05:40 |
| owen1 | lifeless: why does it say "in progress" | 05:40 |
| lifeless | if there is a patch, you could try applying it and seeing if that fixes it - and if so, raise it. | 05:40 |
| lifeless | owen1: well one task is in progress | 05:41 |
| lifeless | and if you look at the activity log folk have been messing around with it | 05:41 |
| owen1 | how do i apply that patch? | 05:41 |
| owen1 | or better solution - how to make sure it's really fixed? i created #512192 which is the same. | 05:42 |
| owen1 | many people have this problem. | 05:42 |
| owen1 | Can't configure Elan tech touchpad on Dell Inspiron 11z, Asus K7I0C and maybe also Dell Mini 10 (not V), ASUS k40in, Asus U81A and ASUS UL80-VT. | 05:42 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:14 |
| pitti | cjwatson: sorry, WI tracker failed every time on Saturday, it couldn't cope with a spec targetted to "later"; I fixed it yesterday | 07:14 |
| pitti | bdrung: questions about syncs> shoot | 07:15 |
| dupondje | morning everybody :) | 07:41 |
| pitti | ev: FYI, I'm porting usb-creator to udisks now | 08:04 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:10 |
| pitti | ev: hm, if I run "PYTHONPATH=. tests/run" I get all failures in TestDevkitBackend, with "The name com.ubuntu.USBCreator was not provided by any .service files", and a lot of of stale fake_devicekit-disks processes; how do I run this? | 08:12 |
| Riddell | stgraber: what you seen bug 520767 ? | 08:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 520767 in pkgbinarymangler "Failure during -dbgsym generation" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520767 | 08:16 |
| dupondje | pitti: something went wrong generating language-pack's | 08:25 |
| dupondje | new language packs breaks mozilla for some languages | 08:26 |
| pitti | asac, ArneGoetje: ^ known? | 08:27 |
| mdz | is anyone else having trouble with Google Calendar with the chromium-browser in Lucid? I get the "Aw, snap" page every time it tries to load the event editing dialog | 08:37 |
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| pitti | superm1: ah, seems you already prepared dell-recovery for udisks, great! (I'm about to remove devicekit-disks from the lucid archive); you missed a bit in 96-dell-recovery-partition.rules, you need to additionally add UDISKS_PRESENTATION_HIDE | 08:49 |
| pitti | superm1: (or instead, if you want to drop support for DK-D) | 08:49 |
| pitti | superm1: however, I wonder whether 96-dell-recovery-partition.rules is needed in the first place; udisks already ships a lot of standard "hide recovery partitions" rules by default, aren't they sufficient? | 08:51 |
| pitti | (dk-d did that as well) | 08:51 |
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| pitti | superm1: would you mind uploading dell-recovery soon, so that we can remove devicekit-disks from the archive? | 08:51 |
| ev | pitti: the test framework is woefully out of date, I wouldn't bother with it until I've found some time to bring it up to speed | 09:06 |
| ev | thanks for doing the port, by the way | 09:06 |
| pitti | ev: ok, understood; it looks exactly as broken as the dk-d variant :) | 09:06 |
| pitti | ev: I tested writing an actual image to an USB stick, that worked fine | 09:07 |
| ev | :) | 09:08 |
| ev | cool | 09:08 |
| ev | mvo: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-upgrade is in universe. In case you're not already aware, you have commit access to lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu via your membership in ~ubuntu-installer, should you want to make any changes. | 09:20 |
| ogra | mdz, works fine here, are you using the chromium from the archive or from the daily build ppa ? | 09:23 |
| mdz | ogra, archive | 09:23 |
| ogra | (mine is the archive one in lucid) | 09:23 |
| ogra | wierd | 09:23 |
| ogra | *weird even | 09:23 |
| * ogra does a dist-upgrade | 09:24 | |
| ogra | i'm out of date a few days | 09:24 |
| pitti | hm, what's wrong with libmysqlclient16_7.0.9-1_amd64.deb ? | 09:27 |
| ogra | still works with the latest | 09:27 |
| * ogra restarts to be sure | 09:28 | |
| geser | pitti: bug #521815 | 09:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 521815 in mysql-cluster-7.0 "breaks all builds requiring libmysqlclient-dev" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521815 | 09:28 |
| pitti | geser: ah, thanks | 09:29 |
| ogra | mdz, still all fine after upgrade and reboot | 09:30 |
| ogra | must be on your side | 09:30 |
| mdz | ogra, hmm. I've disabled my (two) extensions and it is 100% reproducible. is there any way to get more info than "aw snap"? | 09:30 |
| ogra | not sure, asac ^^^^ ? | 09:30 |
| ogra | mdz, there is the -g setting but that immediately runs it in gdb afaik | 09:31 |
| fagan | isnt there a --debug option in terminal for chromium | 09:32 |
| ogra | fagan, yes, -g is the short form of it | 09:32 |
| ogra | Riddell, do you have an idea about bug 522045 ? the error message makes me suspect we are missing something in kde under armel | 09:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522045 in ubiquity "sip import error under oem-config-kde " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522045 | 09:43 |
| Riddell | ogra: kdebindings hasn't compiled on arm recently | 09:46 |
| ogra | yeah, i suspected something might be out of date here | 09:46 |
| Riddell | ogra: it's currently compiling away though so we can but hope it completes | 09:48 |
| ogra | yeah, else i'll put NCommander on the case, he loves to debug KDE on arm :) | 09:48 |
| ogra | Riddell, thanks a lot | 09:49 |
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| ttx | Question: I install a task through "apt-get install task^" with a PPA enabled (that provides some of the task deps): task installation just skips the package that happens to be provided by the PPA. Doesn't install the main equivalent, doesn't install the PPA version either. Any clue ? | 09:56 |
| ttx | mvo: ^ ? | 10:02 |
| ttx | The issue being it prevents me from netbooting/preseeding a UEC install from an alternate repository | 10:03 |
| mdz | ogra, I guess I'll download the 400M of debug symbols then ;-) | 10:04 |
| mdz | ttx, the packages included in the task are determined by the Task: headers in the Packages files | 10:05 |
| mdz | ttx, the PPA one won't have a Task: and so it won't be used | 10:05 |
| ttx | mdz: and it will not gracefully fallback to the main version, because it's not the install candidate... interesting | 10:06 |
| * ttx digs deeper | 10:06 | |
| * xnox is upgrading to lucid - joy estimated upgrade time 3 hours | 10:07 | |
| mdz | ttx, you are probably better off just not using task^ and providing a list of the packages you want (maybe extracted from the task in main) | 10:07 |
| ttx | mdz: Right, however I'm testing the UEC installer, which uses the task | 10:08 |
| ttx | The idea was to allow install-testing a work-in-progress eucalyptus, without having to upload it | 10:09 |
| mdz | ttx, ...without running a local mirror :-) | 10:09 |
| ttx | I have a local mirror | 10:09 |
| * ttx digs into Packages file | 10:10 | |
| mdz | ttx, you could try mirroring the PPA locally and modifying the Packages file | 10:11 |
| ttx | mdz: I'm on it :) | 10:11 |
| ttx | mdz: (In fact I use a local repo for that. PPA was just for sake of example/reproducing my issue) | 10:11 |
| mdz | ttx, cjwatson and I have talked about writing a tool which takes a .changes and replaces that package into an .iso for testing | 10:11 |
| mdz | but I don't think anyone has found the round tuits yet | 10:12 |
| ttx | mdz: It would be interesting as an additional test option, but I kinda like our new PXE based test setup | 10:12 |
| ttx | i'll just mangle my localrepo Packages file | 10:13 |
| ttx | mdz: Any reason why local repositories (or PPAs) don't get "Task" headers ? Shouldn't they be generated from the package control file ? | 10:14 |
| mdz | ttx, no, they come from overrides | 10:14 |
| * ttx mans apt-ftparchive | 10:15 | |
| mvo | ttx: hi, that should work, does the Package have the right Task headers in the PPA? | 10:15 |
| ttx | mvo: apparently not | 10:16 |
| mvo | ttx: aha, I just read scrollback, mdz answered already | 10:17 |
| ttx | mvo: i'll use a local repo with a properly-overridden Packages file | 10:17 |
| ttx | mvo, mdz; thanks ! | 10:17 |
| asac | pitti: yes | 10:17 |
| asac | pitti: i fixed it on macq... | 10:17 |
| geser | pitti: have you some time to review (and sponsor) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~geser/pkg-create-dbgsym/fix-520767/+merge/19323 (it's for bug 520767) | 10:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 520767 in pkgbinarymangler "Failure during -dbgsym generation" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520767 | 10:17 |
| asac | pitti: wanted to talk to you how to rerun the langpack generation | 10:18 |
| pitti | ArneGoetje: ^ can you please kick off a new build? | 10:18 |
| pitti | asac: thanks | 10:18 |
| pitti | geser: will look, thanks! | 10:18 |
| asac | pitti: where arne lives the whole week is public holiday | 10:18 |
| ArneGoetje | pitti: already done and uploaded | 10:19 |
| asac | oh | 10:19 |
| asac | he | 10:19 |
| pitti | ArneGoetje: ah, sweet, thanks! | 10:19 |
| asac | ArneGoetje: you didnt compile po2xpi | 10:19 |
| asac | not sure what you tested ;) | 10:19 |
| ArneGoetje | asac: I know... noticed too late | 10:19 |
| asac | heh | 10:19 |
| asac | ok | 10:19 |
| asac | noticed too late? | 10:19 |
| mdz | ttx, doing this properly with apt-ftparchive requires creating several configuration files etc. unfortunately :-/ | 10:19 |
| ArneGoetje | asac: noticed after you triaged the bug. | 10:20 |
| asac | ah | 10:20 |
| asac | ArneGoetje: i wanted to change the searchplugins :( | 10:21 |
| asac | didnt know you were here | 10:21 |
| ArneGoetje | asac: before I have just pulled your po2xpi and modified it locally. But because you didn't merge my changes yet, I pulled my own branch and symlinked it as po2xpi on the server... but forgot to run make to actually compile po2xpi. orz | 10:22 |
| asac | but ok lets continue on mozillateam | 10:22 |
| asac | ok | 10:22 |
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| soren | ttx: Did you get an answer yet? | 10:28 |
| ttx | soren: yes, thanks | 10:28 |
| soren | ttx: Wicked. | 10:29 |
| mdz | ogra, http://pastebin.com/f6e9beda1 | 10:34 |
| mdz | ^ chromium backtrace | 10:34 |
| mdz | it would be nice if there were a command line option to say "go ahead and dump core" so that apport would work | 10:37 |
| mdz | ogra, asac, reported as bug 522078 | 10:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522078 in chromium-browser "Crashes reproducibly when trying to edit events in Google Calendar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522078 | 10:43 |
| asac | mdz: hmm. odd. the latest in archive is from the beta channel | 10:44 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/5.0.307.7~r38400-0ubuntu1 | 10:45 |
| mdz | asac, I upgraded everything else at the same time as chromium, I guess it's possible the bug is lower in the stack | 10:45 |
| asac | could be ... though we use only just a few system libs | 10:46 |
| asac | maybe attach your apt log parts too then | 10:46 |
| asac | mdz: ^ | 10:46 |
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| dupondje | asac: ArneGoetje: thx | 11:05 |
| dupondje | will check this evening if it works ;) | 11:05 |
| asac | should | 11:05 |
| ogra | asac, mdz, i get the same error trying to update a worpress entry here apparently | 11:17 |
| asac | ogra: same backtrace? | 11:19 |
| ogra | havent done one yet, one sec | 11:19 |
| ogra | but i see th eoops page as soon as i click the update/save button | 11:19 |
| mdz | asac, apt history attached | 11:20 |
| asac | thanks | 11:21 |
| mdz | asac, ogra, it's been linked to an upstream report confirming | 11:21 |
| ogra | asac, my bt is rather empty | 11:22 |
| asac | right | 11:23 |
| asac | ogra: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxDebugging | 11:24 |
| * asac wonders how to teach chromium to create .crash files for snaps | 11:24 | |
| mdz | asac, I created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingChromium with a link to that btw | 11:25 |
| asac | hmm. i thought we already had a wiki. but thanks. | 11:27 |
| mdz | asac, I didn't find one, looking at DebuggingProcedures and searching | 11:29 |
| asac | mdz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Debug | 11:37 |
| * asac updates DebuggingProcedures | 11:37 | |
| asac | and renames that page to debugging ;) | 11:37 |
| mdz | asac, thanks | 11:38 |
| asac | hmm. the wiki seems to not fix all references to a page on rename | 11:40 |
| asac | i would have expected that from a wiki for internal content | 11:40 |
| ogra | asac, i see no mention of xml/xslt at all in my bt ... though i have about 30 tabs open i should probably retry that when i can clean out my tabs and try with a single one | 11:49 |
| asac | ogra: did you use the renderer gdb approach? | 11:51 |
| asac | from the wiki? | 11:51 |
| asac | do that | 11:51 |
| ogra | i used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Debug | 11:51 |
| asac | and yes, use a single tab | 11:51 |
| ogra | right, that has to wait then | 11:51 |
| * ogra needs his tabs | 11:51 | |
| asac | which doesnt exist anymore ... hmm. wasnt there a time when the wiki created a redirect? | 11:51 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Debugging | 11:52 |
| ogra | right, well, i used it before you moved it :) | 11:52 |
| asac | sure | 11:52 |
| * ogra wonders why he gets mono comments on the blog entry he just did | 11:53 | |
| ogra | tsk | 11:53 |
| \sh | guys, what's the correct way to tell buildd admins to un-P-a-S a package? | 11:59 |
| lool | valgrind was updated in Packages-arch-specific two days ago to add armel support; it was properly attempted two days ago in Debian sid, but not in lucid | 12:16 |
| lool | Who can I poke to get our Pas updated? | 12:16 |
| lool | After the last announcement from pkern, I thought it would be automatically updated from Debian's git | 12:16 |
| lool | Hmm we seem to have an ~ubuntu-core-dev branch of it | 12:17 |
| \sh | lool: I would say buildd admins ;) but I need to find out where I can file bugs about p-a-s | 12:18 |
| lool | \sh: pkern's announcement requested to file them in Debian | 12:19 |
| lool | against the buildd.debian.org pseudopackage | 12:19 |
| \sh | lool: yes... | 12:19 |
| lool | so lp:packages-arch-specific is lagging and didn't mirror the latest git commits from https://buildd.debian.org/git/packages-arch-specific.git/ | 12:20 |
| lool | I think I'lll go poke #launchpad at this point | 12:20 |
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| lool | cjwatson: Hmm sorry just saw the comment on the branch that I should contact you | 12:22 |
| lool | cjwatson: Would you mind updating https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/packages-arch-specific/sid ? | 12:23 |
| lool | Except he's on leave | 12:23 |
| lool | Ok, I think I'll update lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/packages-arch-specific/ubuntu and resync with cjwatson when he comes back | 12:24 |
| ejat | hi guys .. | 12:26 |
| ejat | http://paste.ubuntu.com/376824/ | 12:26 |
| ejat | why the listed package need to be remove while i try to upgrade to lucid ? | 12:27 |
| ejat | such as ubuntu-desktop .. | 12:27 |
| jdub | hey gang | 13:12 |
| jdub | anyone seeing upgrades fail with | 13:12 |
| jdub | "tar: ./md5sums: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor" | 13:12 |
| jdub | ? | 13:12 |
| jdub | i'm upping from hardy to lucid (kernel version 2.6.18.8) | 13:13 |
| jdub | looks like there are some relevant debian coreutils bugs | 13:13 |
| jdub | eg. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563726 | 13:16 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 563726 in tar "tar: futimens() with a bad file descriptor (AT_FDCWD)" [Important,Open] | 13:16 |
| \sh | lool: would you adjust p-a-s in ubuntu also with the package mentioned in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=569952 ? :) | 13:21 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 569952 in buildd.debian.org "Please let libunwind build on i386 and amd64" [Normal,Open] | 13:21 |
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| lool | \sh: done | 13:36 |
| Riddell | ogra, NCommander: kdebindings failed on arm with "Segmentation fault | 13:40 |
| Riddell | it's in smoke though. the python stuff compiled fine. so probably best to just stop smoke compiling on arm since I doubt it's used by anyone | 13:41 |
| ev | is X intentionally on VT1 now? | 13:44 |
| ogra | Riddell, likely a buildd hiccup | 13:51 |
| ogra | Riddell, given back | 13:53 |
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| chrisccoulson | is there a DMB meeting scheduled for tomorrow? | 14:29 |
| pitti | should be | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - thanks | 14:38 |
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| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| james_w | Lucid Alpha 2 released | Archive: open (DebianImportFreeze) | MoM running (but use bzr!) | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-karmic | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | 14:51 |
| james_w | could somebody set the topic please ^ | 14:51 |
| pitti | james_w: you should be able to? (what's the difference?) | 15:00 |
| james_w | pitti: I don't have an ubuntu/member hostmask | 15:00 |
| james_w | that's AIUI anyway | 15:00 |
| pitti | it already seems to be what you suggest, or it's so subtly different that I fail to see it | 15:00 |
| james_w | I added (DebianImportFreeze) to the archive status | 15:01 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/+bug/521217 => who can sync this ? its already ACKed :) | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 521217 in gnucash "Sync gnucash 2.2.9-4 from Debian sid main" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
| sebner | dupondje: archive admin | 15:06 |
| dupondje | I think there a some around here ? ;) | 15:06 |
| james_w | dupondje: patience my friend | 15:06 |
| sebner | dupondje: they are processed periodically and I don't suppose your sync request is something special that needs special attention ;) | 15:07 |
| dupondje | If its get into lucid final its all ok for me :) | 15:07 |
| james_w | dupondje: it will be done in 20 minutes or so | 15:08 |
| james_w | there are 130 others that need doing as well | 15:08 |
| pitti | james_w: sorry, seems I lost my ability to set the topic; "You're not channel operator" | 15:08 |
| dupondje | james_w: I can wait that long ;) | 15:09 |
| james_w | pitti: you should be able to /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-devel pitti | 15:09 |
| pitti | james_w: nope, I'm not an op for #u-devel | 15:10 |
| pitti | (or any IRC channel for that matter) | 15:10 |
| superm1 | pitti, i've not actually tested the udisks support yet, it's all been theoretical at this point :) i've also got a few other things that i'm working on, so will upload after that | 15:11 |
| pitti | superm1: thanks; udisks is in lucid now, and g-d-u and usb-creator got ported | 15:11 |
| james_w | pitti: oh, sorry, it's not set up like some other channels | 15:12 |
| Keybuk | mvo: you'd know the answer to this one | 15:15 |
| Keybuk | is there an easy way to do an upgrade just from a PPA | 15:15 |
| mvo | Keybuk: no trivial one, I could do a python-apt script for you if you want | 15:16 |
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| === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch | ||
| * ogra wonders how to adjust volume with cursor keys with the new horizontal volume applet | 15:56 | |
| cjohnston | mbudde: ping | 15:57 |
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| mbudde | cjohnston: sup? | 16:00 |
| cjohnston | nhandler is working on a script for the ubuntu classroom to help out with admin stuff.. and we wanted your feedback as the lernid dev on something | 16:02 |
| mbudde | okay | 16:02 |
| cjohnston | The design of the script will be to parse the class topic and instructor | 16:02 |
| nhandler | Why not move this back to #ubuntu-classroom-backstage cjohnston and mbudde ? | 16:03 |
| cjohnston | that works.. | 16:03 |
| ari-tczew | please sponsor fake syncs in bug 511448 ; bug 521666 ; thanks | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 511448 in libxml-security-java "Fake sync libxml-security-java 1.4.3-2 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511448 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 521666 in libaxiom-java "Fake sync libaxiom-java 1.2.8-1 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521666 | 16:12 |
| geser | james_w: re bug 273549: it looks like it got promoted to much. intended was to move it from multiverse to universe and not main. | 16:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 273549 in apertium-es-ca "Move apertium-es-ca to universe" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273549 | 16:17 |
| james_w | geser: oops, fixed, thanks | 16:18 |
| sabdfl | who's the best person to ping re bluez | 16:26 |
| Keybuk | sabdfl: mario usually | 16:31 |
| Keybuk | what's up? | 16:31 |
| ogra | sabdfl, persia and superm1 did some work on it in the past | 16:31 |
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| mdz | kenvandine, any guess on bug 522067? someone on identi.ca said they fixed things by removing and re-adding their account, but I don't want to do that if it would impede analysis | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522067 in gwibber "No longer displays updates from Twitter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522067 | 16:34 |
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| ivoks | pitti: ping | 17:06 |
| dupondje | james_w: it got synced ;) | 17:10 |
| james_w | I know :-) | 17:11 |
| mvo | persia: hi, you seem to have done the recent ubuntu-dev-tools uploads - any objections about me adding "edit-patch" from https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mvo/+junk/edit-patch ? | 17:13 |
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| dupondje | mvo: where I am on your todo list ? ;) | 17:23 |
| mvo | dupondje: oohhhh | 17:23 |
| * mvo gets a guilty conscience | 17:24 | |
| dupondje | don't tell me you forgot me :P | 17:24 |
| mvo | not as such ... | 17:24 |
| mvo | dupondje: let me do it now | 17:25 |
| dupondje | sweet :) | 17:27 |
| mdz | is anyone else seeing mutt display "�" characters where it used to show line-drawing characters (e.g. displaying threads)? | 17:27 |
| mdz | seems to happen regardless of which font I choose in lucid | 17:29 |
| Laney | I get "error: the symbol 'grub_env_find' not found." when booting my Lucid machine now. Looks like debian bug 567582, but I can't find one on LP. Want one? Is the requested info in that bug useful? | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 567582 in grub-pc "boot failure: "the symbol 'grub_env_find' not found"" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/567582 | 17:38 |
| pitti_ | ivoks: pong | 17:49 |
| ivoks | pitti_: hi | 17:52 |
| ivoks | pitti_: i hope you aren't floded with my mirs | 17:53 |
| pitti_ | ivoks: not any more :) my server went down an hour ago, so no mails for me :) | 17:53 |
| ivoks | pitti_: i just wanted to ask; do i need to fill in mir for every single perl module or could i just fill one with all of them :) | 17:53 |
| pitti_ | ivoks: you have to check bug status/debian maintenance for all of them | 17:54 |
| ivoks | pitti_: of course | 17:54 |
| pitti_ | ivoks: beyond that, just use that libtest-testing-perl thing and just add new tasks | 17:54 |
| ivoks | great! thanks | 17:54 |
| ivoks | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/MIR there's lots of them | 17:55 |
| sladen | directhex: any idea how to get dh_clideps et al not to do the stupid exact-dependency thing for other libriaries based on those available on the buildd (x << 1.2 && x >= 1.1) | 18:04 |
| directhex | sladen, what is the dependency you're getting, and what would you prefer it to be? | 18:08 |
| dupondje | mvo: thx | 18:09 |
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| sladen | directhex: things like: libtaoframework-openal1.1-cil (>= 2.1.svn20090801), libtaoframework-openal1.1-cil (<< 2.1.svn20090802) | 18:11 |
| sladen | directhex: I'd quite like that to be just (>= x) so that packages don't break when the library in question gets rebuilt | 18:11 |
| directhex | let me check | 18:12 |
| sladen | directhex: (unless I'm completely misunderstanding the reason for some obsession reason for the paranoid CLI versioning) | 18:12 |
| directhex | sladen, well, it won't have trouble with a rebuild, as it versions against the UPSTREAM release. 2.1.svn20090801-1ubuntu74 is still << 2.1.svn20090802 | 18:13 |
| directhex | sladen, that info is written into the lib (i.e. the lib says "my deps if you depend on me should read as follows:"), using the same parameters as with dh_makeshlibs | 18:14 |
| sladen | directhex: so in this example, the answer is to modify 'libtaoframework-openal1.1-cil' $somehow to not ask for the exact linking? | 18:15 |
| directhex | sladen, in tao's case, it's intentional as there's a high likelihood of bits breaking if you have partly one release and partly another. | 18:16 |
| directhex | sladen, to do that, you'd add something like "dh_makeclilibs -plibtaoframework-openal1.1-cil -V" to debian/rules | 18:16 |
| sladen | directhex: well stuff (upgrades) breaks *because* of it | 18:16 |
| directhex | sladen, what's the specific breakage? can i see the console spew? | 18:17 |
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| crimsun | pitti: hi, is there an existing method to get a user's configuration files from within apport-symptoms, or do I need to do that manually using Python methods? | 18:51 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: so I've triaged another plymouth bug, but I'm not sure what to do with it. When you boot w/o splash, plymouth doesn't change vts, I guess to display all the boot-time messages.... so when gdm sees plymouth is there and assumes that means it can use the active VT for its server, it spawns on vt1 | 18:51 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: how *should* this be fixed? | 18:51 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: (bug #518352 is the master for this bug now) | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 518352 in plymouth "[lucid] if booting without 'splash', gdm starts X on wrong vt" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518352 | 18:56 |
| slangasek | chrisccoulson: you reassigned bug #518352 based on answers from someone other than the bug submitter? :) | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 518352 in plymouth "[lucid] if booting without 'splash', gdm starts X on wrong vt" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518352 | 18:59 |
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| chrisccoulson | slangasek - oh, i didn't notice that the person who replied wasn't the submitter ;) | 19:17 |
| micahg | pitti: do I need this line in the apport hook for firefox to allow for PPA submsision? report['CrashDB'] = 'firefox' | 19:50 |
| FP1 | hello | 20:11 |
| FP1 | how do i start developing for ubuntu? | 20:13 |
| Tm_T | FP1: by joining #ubuntu-motu (: | 20:14 |
| FP1 | do i download the ubuntu source code also? and thank you | 20:14 |
| FP1 | and can i use eclipse for developing? | 20:15 |
| qense | FP1: A new IRC channel for developign applications has just been opened at #ubuntu-app-devel It's just a few minutes old! | 20:15 |
| FP1 | thanks :D | 20:16 |
| FP1 | can i actually help develop the os? | 20:17 |
| qense | FP1: Yes, but it is not like there is one place all applications are written. | 20:17 |
| FP1 | do you get it on launchpad? | 20:18 |
| qense | There are many different projects all over the internet and Ubuntu takes its pick from those and puts them together. | 20:18 |
| qense | Some applications are written by Ubuntu self, though. | 20:18 |
| FP1 | are they developed in C++? | 20:18 |
| qense | FP1: There are some applications on Launchpad, yes. | 20:18 |
| qense | FP1: That varies enourmously. | 20:18 |
| sebner | FP1: most ist in python | 20:18 |
| FP1 | ok :P | 20:18 |
| sebner | *is | 20:18 |
| sebner | from the *self-developed* stuff | 20:19 |
| qense | but the graphical interface you see is mostly written in C | 20:19 |
| qense | Whereas the office applications uses Java | 20:19 |
| FP1 | oh, cool | 20:19 |
| FP1 | is there any good developing applications out there for linux | 20:19 |
| qense | e.g. the chat client Empathy isn't developed by us, but by other people at www.gnome.org | 20:19 |
| qense | we do develop Update Manager | 20:19 |
| FP1 | i've heard of eclipse | 20:19 |
| qense | Eclipse is indeed a very powerful IDE | 20:20 |
| FP1 | do you suggest using eclipse? | 20:20 |
| FP1 | im on empathy now :P | 20:20 |
| qense | It depends on your personal preferences and what you're doing with it. | 20:20 |
| qense | I'm using 'gedit' for developing, not Eclipse. | 20:20 |
| qense | There is also Anjuta, MonoDevelop, NetBeans and a lot more. | 20:20 |
| FP1 | i use gedit for website developing but never new you could use it for programming also | 20:21 |
| FP1 | *knew | 20:21 |
| qense | You don't _have_ to use a certain application for programming. | 20:21 |
| qense | Any text editor will do. | 20:22 |
| FP1 | ok | 20:22 |
| qense | but lets continue this conversation in the new channel | 20:22 |
| FP1 | at #ubuntu-app-devel ? | 20:22 |
| qense | yes | 20:22 |
| FP1 | ok | 20:22 |
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| superm1 | crimsun, why do i have my annoying beep back in lucid rather than the pretty ding sounds that I got from karmic for my system bell? | 22:39 |
| superm1 | is that intentional? | 22:39 |
| crimsun | superm1: is module-x11-bell loaded? Which wm are you using? Is the beep element enumerated in your [alsa]mixer? | 22:58 |
| superm1 | crimsun, this was a fresh lucid gnome install. how do I query if module-x11-bell is loaded? | 22:59 |
| superm1 | I do see a "PC Beep" in my alsamixer, it's set to 0 by default | 22:59 |
| superm1 | but not muted | 22:59 |
| crimsun | superm1: pactl list |grep x11-bell | 22:59 |
| superm1 | crimsun, yeah it lists it | 22:59 |
| crimsun | superm1: is your PC Beep also a binary toggle [mutable]? | 23:00 |
| superm1 | Yes | 23:00 |
| crimsun | heh. | 23:04 |
| crimsun | well, we appear to have (erroneously) dropped the patch to sound/pci/hda/hda_beep.c that disables it by default. | 23:04 |
| superm1 | crimsun, well glad it's something silly :) | 23:05 |
| eut | is anyone aware of what version of libstdc++ the libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 packages correspond to? (i'm trying to find out which libstdc++ release i want to download and install) | 23:35 |
| RAOF | eut: libstdc++5 is built from gcc3.3 source; everything later is libstdc++6. | 23:37 |
| eut | RAOF, is it possible to install the older hardy package on 9.10? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/libstdc++5/download | 23:38 |
| crypt-0 | it *should* possible, but i wouldn't advise it | 23:42 |
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