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bogeyd6zoran119, no those patches got skipped00:22
bogeyd6zoran119, safe, arguably00:22
zoran119bogeyd6: it's ubuntu 8.04 lts... if i do dist-upgrade these packages should get upgraded... but will i still have 8.04 lts? or will be it someting else?00:24
Roxyhart0HI I am trying to join my PDC and i got this error: rpccli_netlogon_set_trust_password: unable to setup creds (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)! any idea?00:37
Roxyhart0how i can install winbind?01:15
Roxyhart0i got 2 winbind on apt-get winbind4 and winbind01:16
uvirtbot`New bug: #521973 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52197301:16
bogeyd6zoran119, still 8.0401:19
Roxyhart0hi i just delete samba folder and unistall the application, when i try to create again it doesnt create the samba folder. any idea?01:21
Roxyhart0which is the difference between winbind and winbind4?01:27
Roxyhart0hi please i dont know what id wrong but samba doesn't install properly.01:28
Roxyhart0doesn't create the samba file01:28
Roxyhart0and tesparm doesn work01:28
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twbSigh.  Did Canonical *really* need to change Ubuntu's etckeeper to default to bzr instead of git?02:19
pmatulistwb: makes sense02:38
twbOnly in the sense that canonical is in bed with bzr and everyone else got over it five years ago02:39
pmatulistwb: canonical in bed with bzr?  the bzr developers are canonical employees02:41
twbBedding is a reflexive relation.02:44
twbEr, not reflexive.02:45
twbSymmetric?02:45
twbYeah.02:45
pmatulistwb: you're thinking too much02:54
lifelesspmatulis: are you aware of any way to run UEC on a hardy server?02:56
lifelesspmatulis: I have a hardy server that I depend on too much to upgrade to lucid at this point in the cycle, but I wants UEC :)02:57
pmatulislifeless: sorry, i have almost no experience with UEC02:57
lifelesskk, no worries02:58
twblifeless: depending on the dependencies, you might be able to just backport it03:00
twblifeless: I wouldn't do that with a production machine, of course03:00
lifelesstwb: UEC is eucalyptus - so it wants kvm :)03:01
lifelessas well as a tonne of java03:01
lifelessI was thinking about running it up in a lucid chroot, kindof thing.03:01
twbIt shouldn't need kvm specifically -- surely qemu or any other full virtualization solution would do03:02
twbJava, otoh, can foad03:02
twbI wouldn't want to try running KVM in a chroot, but if you have hardware VT, I can't think of any obvious reason why it wouldn't work.03:03
Roxyhart0hi somebody can help me i am not dure what i did wrong or what i am missing in my PDC config i am unable to get information with wbinfo -u my config is : http://pastebin.com/d4c68efa. Also i can join my own PDC03:08
bogeyd6eucalyptus on 8.04?03:36
bogeyd6http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/eucalyptus-ubuntu-hardy-backport03:38
bogeyd6you need at least two servers for uec03:38
lifelessoh cool03:39
lifelessbogeyd6: no, you don't.03:39
lifelessoh, the link says 'we failed' :)03:40
lifelessbogeyd6: recommended topology is multiple machines, but I have a test machine here running MANAGED_NOVLAN sc, cc and nc just fine.03:40
lifelessI found some bugs in the setup scripts etc which I documented and filed, but it works just fine and reliablu.03:40
ksovieroIs it easy - or possible - to get dovecot to work like gmail, meaning by saving each email to a safe folder apon being downloaded by a client on pop?03:57
ksovieroIE. archive the servers copy of the email, while sending it to the client03:59
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MTecknologyCRAP!06:20
MTecknologyI need my wiki; my wiki on my dev server; my server is being entirely rebuilt06:21
MTecknologyAnd now I can't get my VM to grab an IP06:31
MTecknologyI wonder if it's an issue with the bridged network...06:32
Roxyhart0hi after take off kerberos winbind doesn't work any more...wbinfo -u doen give me information. any idea about this prblem?06:34
Roxyhart0hi i cant find the package libnss_winbind.so in my server. ho i can install it?07:25
MTecknologyRoxyhart0: about the worst time of week to find support...07:39
Roxyhart0yes, and just this weeks every thinks happen on the servers? this is my work week in the job history!07:40
Roxyhart0things07:40
MTecknologyRoxyhart0: I wish I could help///07:46
laenIf there's a S17mysql-ndb-mgm, S18mysql-ndb and S19mysql in /etc/rc3.d/, does this mean they are all started in this order? I'm wondering what the first two are, never heard of 'em.07:47
Roxyhart0thanks me too...anyway without problems it could be boring isn't?07:47
MTecknologyRoxyhart0: true; issues keep your mind sharp :)07:48
MTecknologyjust like the issues I've been having07:48
ttxRoxyhart0: looks like it's in package winbind (/lib/libnss_winbind.so.2)08:30
Roxyhart0thanks ttx08:35
Roxyhart0i just recover it08:35
Roxyhart0i am trying to configure a PDC samba server , try to goin to the domain (which is in the same machine) but i cant see the Domain. say something that i dont have privileges, i am wondering if is something with winbind configuration / pam08:38
Roxyhart0ls08:38
sorenOh, puppet. Why must thee spite me so?09:25
KamaL hi all.. I have ubunut server 9.04 on a VPS, I installed the desktop pack on it, but now when I type STARTX I get this error log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/376753/09:29
sorenKamaL: You won't be able to run standard X on a VPS. Standard X expects a monitor to be connected to the machine. Besides, this is off-topic here. Try in #ubuntu.09:37
KamaLso i won't be able to connect through remote desktop to a ubuntu GUI this way?09:37
Roxyhart0hi, how i can reload my pam configuration without reboot the server?09:38
sorenKamaL: Try in #ubuntu.09:38
KamaLno one is answering there :/09:38
sorenKamaL: That does not magically make it on-topic for this channel :)09:39
swifthi guys, i changed the /etc/network/interfaces file and lost ssh connection to my server09:45
swiftcan someone advise why this happened?09:45
swifti changed the IP and now, pings are not going through09:45
ttxsoren: got a mystery task question on #ubuntu-devel... if you know what happens, let me know09:58
Roxyhart0someone know how i can reload my pam.d configuration without reboot the server?09:59
RoyKRoxyhart0: for what?10:06
RoyKssh I think is parsed each time10:06
RoyKfor the gettys, you'll need to restart them10:06
RoyKs/each time/on login/10:07
RoyKperhaps no restart at all10:07
swiftguys, any advise or reason why this happened?10:07
swifti mean, i only changed the interfaces file10:08
RoyKswift: and restarted networking_10:08
RoyK?10:08
swiftno10:08
swifti didnt do that10:08
RoyKif you changed interfaces and restarted networking, your box is on a separate ip10:08
RoyKif you didn't start networking, I don't know.10:09
RoyKthat file should only be read by /etc/init.d/networking (re)start10:09
swifti didnt restart networking?10:09
swifti didnt restart actually10:09
Roxyhart0yes10:10
Roxyhart0i just see that and my pam crash? somebody have any example of configure authentication with, samba, unic and ldap (pam.d)10:11
RoyKswift: changing that file doesn't restart anything10:19
RoyKswift: but rebooting after changing it, obviously does10:19
swifti just changed the file and lost ssh access to the server10:19
swiftalso, i can't ping to the new as well as onld IP10:19
swiftthis is wierd10:20
RoyKchanging that file doesn't do anything10:23
RoyKmight have been something else10:23
ewookso, how often is ubu's keyserver reachable?10:31
Roxyhart0hi somebody have a example how to configura pam.d to access with samba and ldap?10:36
Roxyhart0hi do i need pam_unix2.so if i am susing pam_smbpass? or just pam_unix.so is ok?11:18
maxagazthe date is wrong on my system, how to reset it ?11:43
maxagazi mean system time11:44
Roxyhart0someone have some example how to configurate pam.d with samba, ldap, unix sincronization?11:46
maxagaz:~# date11:46
maxagazSun Jun 26 00:02:52 CDT 198811:46
livamaxagaz : date --help11:51
livacheck for ntpdate to keep the system synchronized11:51
AmokPauleHello, someone has an idea why my mouse in karic is moving from alone to the top of my screen?12:07
maxagazliva, ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com12:07
livaYou can have various servers in fact12:11
livaIt depends where you live12:11
livaediting /etc/cron.daily/ntpdate12:11
alkisgSince the new tftpd-hpa upload, where it now runs as a daemon as opposed to running from inetd.conf, it no longer autostarts when my system boots.12:44
alkisgI need to manually run it. Any clues on how to make it autostart?12:44
c0dem4gneticwhen i send (external) emails postfix does not at all respect the hostname set in main.cf .. this leads to the sender being like <blabla.defaultdomain> .. how can i set these mappings?12:45
lbrinkmaDoes anyone know why libaprutil1-dev is uninstallable on amd64?12:53
lbrinkma the anjuta package FTBFS because of that lib http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39209795/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.anjuta_2:2.29.90.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:53
sorenNggghghhh!!13:05
sorenIs anyone using puppet in Lucid?13:05
fhermenihello13:14
fhermeniI have trouble using kickstart to configure a NIS client13:14
fhermeniI update /etc/passwd, group & shadow during post.13:16
fhermeniAfter the install, I am able to log as a NIS user13:16
fhermenibut not with root13:16
fhermeniif I execute the modification after the install, by myself. It worksss13:21
sherrfhermeni: what is kickstart?13:32
fhermenia tool for fully automated installation13:32
sherrfhermeni: not the redhat tool?13:32
fhermeniyes13:32
fhermenibut usuable in ubuntu too13:32
sherrYou can use that on Ubuntu?13:33
pmatulis!info kickstart13:33
ubottuPackage kickstart does not exist in karmic13:33
fhermenihttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/amd64/automatic-install.html13:34
mealstromuse preseed13:34
sherrfhermeni: interesting - didn't know that. Perhaps "preliminary" means "not all working" :-)13:35
fhermeniyeah I suppose13:35
fhermenibut I was never able to boot using the configuration file of preseed13:35
fhermeniI've just tried passing a preseed file in the kernel but I have to screen to choose the language13:39
fhermeniso anyone already tryed preseed ?13:43
fhermeniin fact, the installer do not try to get the file (no log in apache access)13:47
_rubenfhermeni: preseeding happens after locale/keyboard selection and network configuration (which can be configured using kickstart (never tried) or boot params)13:48
fhermeniok, seems effective, still have the two first points (locale/keyboard) to manage which is not really possible13:51
_rubendebian-installer/locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us13:51
fhermeniok thanks13:52
_rubenadd those as boot parameters (adjust if needed)13:52
_rubennetwork shouldnt ask any questions if only one nic is available13:52
_rubenand will try dhcp on it13:52
fhermeniyep, but it asks for a confirmation about the hostname13:53
lbrinkmawhy does libaprutil1-dev depend on the old libmysqlclient16-dev?13:58
KurtKrautCan rsync connect to a ftp server to pull the files to sync it locally or just through SSH?14:00
fhermeni_ruben: ok, seems to works. thanks for the tips14:00
karelWhat do I need to do to make vmbuilder --add-pkg sun-java6-jdk work (sun-java6-jdk is in multiverse)14:02
fhermeniby14:03
karelShould I create a boot script which adds multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update/install from there?14:03
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uvirtbot`New bug: #377474 in bridge-utils (main) "bridge-utils ifupdown script should disable IPv6 address autoconfiguration for underlying interface" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37747414:12
sorenuvirtbot`: nick uvirtbot14:12
uvirtbot`soren: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.14:12
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lbrinkmathe libaprutil1-dev issue mentioned above breaks up the hole anjuta package14:19
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JordanCooki am getting this error in my mail.log.. "error: to submit mail, use the Postfix sendmail command" and "fatal: the postfix command is reserved for the superuser"14:25
_rubenJordanCook: obviously something is trying to send mail in an inappropriate manner14:28
JordanCookok14:29
sorenttx: How much have you thought about the etckeeper-puppet integration thing? I have a few things I'm not sure how are supposed to work..14:42
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ttxsoren: it's more a spec from Mathias, but I should be able to answer14:43
sorenttx: For one, the spec says that it should support two modes: a) overwrite local changes, or b) abort on local changes and output the diff.14:43
sorenIn b), what does "output" mean? Where should I put it?14:43
soren(Also, the diff etckeeper subcommand is listed as a "Later" work item, but I needed it for this, so I went ahead and implemented it.14:43
soren)14:44
sorenWow. I almost forgot the closing parenthesis.14:44
* soren suddenly thinks of all the parentheses people have opened on IRC, but never closed.14:45
sorenThe parts of my brain that speak LISP are twitching.14:45
ttxsoren: i'm not sure what Mathias meant exactly )14:45
ttxsoren: since I agree "output" doesn't make a lot of sense in that context14:45
ttxsoren: better ask him, should ba available in a few14:46
Roxyhart0hi, I got a problem similar to this  hi i got a problem similar to this one http://www.mail-archive.com/samba@lists.samba.org/msg102818.html and i have samba 3.4.0. . It say is improved in samba 3.4.1. somebody know about that? how i can migrate to samba 3.4.1?14:51
sherrRoxyhart0: You can download Samba source and compile. The link you sent is referencing a fedora/RH Samba package - which may be different to the "official" 3.4.1 however (additonional patches). You would need to check.14:57
Roxyhart0i am wonderin if there are Ubuntu version14:58
Roxyhart0sombody has change or update to samba 3.4.x? x >014:59
sorenttx: Alright, I'll talk to mathiaz. Thanks :)15:03
sherrRoxyhart0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/samba15:05
Roxyhart0i got karmik it is ok if i install it on 9.10?15:07
sherrRoxyhart0: Probably not - dependencies. You might break your system if you force it.15:09
sherrRoxyhart0: But I don't know.15:10
Roxyhart0:S so what i can do i need solve this problem15:10
Roxyhart0just move to lucid?15:10
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furythorI got issue, I did install Open LDAP server according to this and I did not get promt for password, is there any way to recover it ?15:53
furythorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html15:53
ivoksno, there's no password15:53
ivoksif you are root on local machine15:54
furythorso I can still set it later on ?15:54
ivoksyou should be able to create DIT and work with it15:54
furythorinvoks does SSH connection count as "root on local" ?15:54
ivoksif you can do sudo, then yes15:54
furythorok15:55
ivoksthis document is buggy15:55
ivoksinstead of -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W15:55
ivoksyou should be able to use -Y EXTERNAL15:55
furythordo I need to define something for ldap server in /etc/hosts ?15:56
ivoksso... ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:///15:56
ivoksnope15:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #522185 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52218515:56
furythorI get this error ldap_bind: Server is unwilling to perform (53)15:59
furythoradditional info: unauthenticated bind (DN with no password) disallowed15:59
furythorwhen I did try to run15:59
furythorldapsearch -xLLL -b cn=config -D cn=admin,cn=config -W olcDatabase={1}hdb15:59
ivokshave you not read what i said?15:59
ivoksinstead of -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W15:59
ivoksyou should be able to use -Y EXTERNAL15:59
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ivoksso... ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:///15:59
ivoksldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// olcDatabase={1}hdb16:00
RoAkSoAxivoks, in the Cluster Testing, how come there's no openais configuration?16:01
RoAkSoAxi mean16:01
RoAkSoAxcorosync16:01
RoAkSoAxor the default config and replacing the bindnetaddr is the only things that needs to be configured16:02
ivoksRoAkSoAx: that's the only thing that's needed16:03
swiftgy, i changed the IP iin the interfaces file of my ubuntu-server, restarted networking service and ifconfig shows the new IP16:04
swiftbut, if i try pinging to the IP, it doesnt ping16:04
swiftalso, i cannot ssh to the new IP16:04
swiftplease advise how i can make this work?16:04
ivoksrestart sshd16:05
swiftbut why can't i ping to the new IP?16:05
swiftis restarting sshd mandatory?16:06
ivoksfirewall?16:06
furythorwhat that error I am getting is basically meaning ?16:06
ivoksno, sshd should restart by it self16:06
ivoksfurythor: i told you 2 times to use -Y EXTERNAL, cause that doc is outdated and buggy for ubuntu 9.1016:06
swiftno, i'm trying to ping the IP from within the network16:07
swifti can ping other servers on the same network16:07
ivoksswift: wrong gateway?16:07
ivokscheck it out with route -n16:07
swiftok16:08
furythorivoks: is there some better guide or should I just dump open LDAP for while ?16:08
swiftthe gateway is correct16:09
swiftthe server was getting a dhcp IP16:09
swifti changed it to static in the interfaces file16:09
swiftand gave it a new IP16:09
furythorSay, anyone here got experience with setting up irssi in screen ?16:09
swiftalso, I uninstalled network-manager16:10
ivoksswift: paste your /etc/network/interfaces16:11
ivoksswift: on pastebin16:12
ivoksfurythor: the guid is ok, except the auth part16:12
ivokssommer: here?16:13
furythorok16:13
ivokswhat's the url for development version of help.ubuntu.com?16:13
furythoris there some way to change admin password ?16:13
swifthttp://pastebin.com/m66d0d33516:13
swiftthats the portion i added16:13
swiftivoks:http://pastebin.com/m66d0d33516:14
ivoksswift: you are missing gateway there16:14
swifti need to specify one in the interfaces file?16:14
ivoksswift: yes16:14
ivoksotherwise, routes won't be added16:14
ivoksfurythor: yes, but why would you do that?16:15
ivoksfurythor: do you understand how ldaps work?16:15
swiftoh!16:15
furythorivoks honestly said : NO16:15
ivoksfurythor: there's config DIT16:15
ivoksfurythor: and there's your_data DIT16:15
furythorokay16:16
ivoksfurythor: config DIT doesn't need admin account, unless you would like to change configs from other machines16:16
ivoksyour_data DIT can be populated with whatever you want16:16
furythorok16:16
ivoksnow, check this out:16:16
ivokshttp://www.howtoforge.com/install-and-configure-openldap-on-ubuntu-karmic-koala16:16
ivoksthis guide creates dc=example,dc=com (that's your_data DIT)16:17
furythorCan I use OpenLDAP to define access control to various directories on my server ?16:17
ivoksdirectories?16:17
ivokslike folders on disk?16:17
furythoryeah16:17
swiftthanks ivoks!!!!!16:18
swiftu rock!!!16:18
swiftit worked!16:18
ivokswhat's wrong with doing it with decades old chmod?16:18
ivoksswift: great16:18
ivoksRoAkSoAx: how's it going?16:18
furythorbecause I am building setup like this, I got my home server which I will use on multiple purposes, some include like designing websites for clients, and others get confidential data on there, so I want my server to be secure before I introduce it more wider population16:19
ivoksyou don't need ldap for that16:19
ivoksmkdir /tmp/my_private_dir16:19
ivokschmod 700 /tmp/my_private_dir16:19
ivoksdone16:19
ivoksonly you can access it16:19
furythorwell I'd wish it would be THAT simple however it is not, my intention is to offer files via webserver, so visitors need to be authenticated before getting access to files16:21
ivoksso?16:21
ivoks.htaccess?16:21
furythorand password through it ?16:21
ivokshtpasswd16:21
ivokshtdigest16:22
ivoksopenldap is overkill for what you want16:22
furythoryeah that would be one solution too... well I don't need server quite yet... so I will go through options and see what I choose16:22
furythorbut thanks for the help16:22
ivokseh16:23
ivoksRoAkSoAx: ?16:25
RoAkSoAxivoks, yers?16:30
ivoksRoAkSoAx: i tought you were testing16:30
RoAkSoAxivoks, yeah i am but trying to configure a loadbalancer with pacemaker and ldirectord , but went to take a shower first :P16:31
ivokshehe ok16:31
ivokswhy ldirectord?16:31
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ivokshaven't we decide to use keepalived?16:32
RoAkSoAxivoks, yes, I've already done simple config with keepalived and it works, not I wanna test pacemaker/ldirectord/ipvsadm and do some comparisons with failover16:32
RoAkSoAxs/not/now16:33
ivoksok16:33
RoAkSoAxlike how much time each takes to failover16:33
RoAkSoAxi'll do a call for testing by the end of this week16:34
ivoksok16:34
ivoksfeature freeze is very near16:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #521231 in nagios3 (main) "package nagios3-cgi (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nagios3/avail.cgi', which is also in package nagios3 0:3.0.6-5ubuntu3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52123116:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #522196 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52219616:37
RoAkSoAxivoks, yeah well i rather have keepalived 1.1.17 instead of 1.1.19 since debian maintainer does not want that version either due to it introduces several bugs16:37
RoAkSoAxso I rather have an stable version in lucid16:38
ivoksthen fix those bugs16:38
RoAkSoAxivoks, yeah Im tracking down the devel list, there's a patch for a bug there but I've not have the time to test it yet, I wanna do that tonight16:39
bogeyd6argh, UEC needs images, damn them, images!!!!!!!!!!!!!16:48
mconigliarohey guys, i understand that its impossible to update the kernel on a ubuntu ec2 instance. so i was wondering if it ever makes sense to apply kernel updates. my guess is no, and i should have apt ignore all kernel updates. anyone have any thoughts on this?16:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #521312 in geronimo-j2ee-connector-1.5-spec (main) "Sync geronimo-j2ee-connector-1.5-spec 2.0.0-1 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52131216:56
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krielLooking to do some traffic shaping, to ensure that my ssh terminal doesn't die thanks to torrenting/ftp server use. What should I be looking into?17:00
lbrinkma Why is libsvn-dev uninstallable? This causes the anjuta package to FTBFS:  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39209795/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.anjuta_2:2.29.90.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz This is only an amd64 issue, it installs fine on i386.17:08
lbrinkmaI think the issue is caused by libaprutil-dev17:08
stashi, anybody know any web server software that can be launched from cli and instantly server curent pwd as docroot?17:18
stasonly static files support17:19
ivoksRoAkSoAx: please help with MIRs17:22
kpettitWhen you get a ssh "connection timed out" is that the server or client giving that?17:22
ivoksclient cannot connect to server17:22
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kpettitI have this server I try to connect too that is just slow as hell for me to get to, I always get timeout's17:22
kpettitivoks, anyway to increase how long the client will try before it gives up?17:23
ivokskpettit: time out means no network connectivity17:24
ivoksthere is nothing on that IP17:24
ivoksmirs are killing me17:24
kpettitughh.  it's anoying becuase sometimes it works, i just seem to be at the tail end of that time out and simetimes I can get thorugh but mostly I can't17:25
kpettitI know it's up becuase it's web services and such are running, ughhh.  I think it's the dumb linksys router that's not routing correctly or taking to long17:25
krielstas: iirc there's a python one-liner that does that.17:27
staskriel: thx, just tried python -m SimpleHTTPServer but it lacks some support17:28
stasi cant get everything loaded into webpage dunno why17:28
stasi thinks it has poor mime support17:30
staskriel: nvm, it worked, ty. I misspelled my docroot17:31
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Guest50488postfix seems to be going in a loop17:35
krielPS: <3 wondershaper17:36
Guest50488it keeps relaying the mail localy17:36
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bogeyd6How can I tell apt to ignore an unmet dependency ?17:54
RoAkSoAxivoks, ok will also look into it tonight18:00
ivoksplease18:03
ivokswe need to finish them asap18:03
ivoksyou could just use one of MIRs as template for new requests18:03
RoAkSoAxivoks, yep im already reading the other filed bugs18:07
ivoksRoAkSoAx: go from bottom to top18:12
RoAkSoAxivoks, ;)18:12
ivoksi'm to tired to continue today18:12
baffleHum; After rebooting a Karmic server with some (not root) LVM logical volumes on clustered storage, the server will drop to busybox on boot because it does not find liblvm2clusterlock.so; It does *not* fall back to local locking, even if this is enabled in lvm.conf ..18:12
baffleThus not starting the local root logical volumes, and not booting.18:13
ivoksdoh... that's cman18:13
ivoksbaffle: is that /home on clvm?18:14
baffleivoks: No, the CLVM-volumes are virtual machine LVs.18:15
mathiazivoks: hi18:15
mathiazivoks: I don't think MIR needs to be written before FF18:15
ivoksmathiaz: hi18:15
mathiazivoks: the most of important thing wrt to FF to have all the new packages in the archive by FF18:15
ivoksmathiaz: problem is that if we don't get MIR before FF, we'll need to get features after FF18:15
baffleivoks: But this is in the initramfs; Since lvm.conf specifies "locking_type = 2" it tries to use the locking library wich is not included in the initramfs.18:15
ivoksmathiaz: that's the thing18:15
baffleivoks: And instead of gracefully falling back to local locking, it dies instead.18:16
baffleivoks: Even if this is specified in the configfile.18:16
ivoksmathiaz: we can't have new rhcs before pacemaker is in18:16
mathiazivoks: because rhcs (in main) needs to be built with new libraries (currently in universe)?18:16
ivoksmathiaz: yes18:16
mathiazivoks: another way around is to demote rhcs to universe for now18:16
baffleivoks: If I change /etc/lvm/lvm.conf to "locking_type = 1" while in initramfs, I can active the root/swap LVMs.18:16
mathiazivoks: and do the promotion to main after18:16
mathiazivoks: if rhcs was already in main, promoting it is faster18:17
ivoksmathiaz: same goes for lvm2 and ocfs2-tools18:17
ivoksbaffle: eh, i haven't worked with clvm and cman yet18:17
mathiazivoks: lvm2?18:17
ivoksbaffle: i just started testing it with pacemaker18:18
ivoksmathiaz: yes, clvm18:18
ivoksmathiaz: lvm is build against libcman18:18
ivoksmathiaz: if we demote rhcs, we will have to demote lvm too :D18:18
ivoksmathiaz: and to avoid all that, it's just easier to finish MIRs before FF18:18
mathiazivoks: lvm like in folder-hook imaps://mail.canonical.com/ 'set signature=~/.mutt-ubuntu-signature'18:19
mathiazivoks: mh18:19
ivoks?18:19
mathiazivoks: lvm like in Linux Logical Volume Manager?18:19
ivoksmathiaz: yes18:19
ivoksDepends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libcman3, libdevmapper1.02.1 (>= 2:1.02.24), libdlm3, libreadline5 (>= 5.2), lvm2 (= 2.02.39-0ubuntu11)18:20
ivoksthat's clvm18:20
ivoksSource: lvm218:20
mathiazivoks: right18:20
ivokswe could drop clvm for alpha3 :)18:20
ivoksbut it is just easier to finish MIRs18:21
ivoksand be done with it all18:21
mathiazivoks: ok18:21
ivoksthere's not that many of them18:21
ivokshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/MIR18:21
ivoksi just need one more pair of hands18:21
panfistcan anyone comment on which version would be better to run a xen host: jaunty because it's newer, or hardy LTS?18:24
ivoksthat's it for me for now18:26
ivoksi'll be back later18:26
ivoksbye18:26
krielpanfist: how linux-savvy is the person that's going to be maintaining this server?18:28
panfisti would say i'm intermediate18:29
panfisti know some scripting and i've experimented with debian, suse and solaris18:30
krielYou'd probably be fine with jaunty, and maybe get some cool new optimizations out of it. LTS will be 'more stable' by definition, but I'd think jaunty would be more than stable enough.18:30
panfistok18:30
bafflekriel: If you're going with a non-LTS release, why not just go for Karmic?18:32
krielbaffle: panfist didn't ask for karmic. He asked choose([jaunty,hardy LTS])18:33
bafflekriel: Yes..?18:35
krielbaffle: If you'd like to ask that question, ask it of panfist. I answered the question that he posed.18:35
bafflekriel: Oh, sorry, didn't notice it before now. :-)18:35
bafflepanfist: If you're going with a non-LTS release, why not just go for Karmic?18:36
panfisti heard that there is no xen patched kernel for karmic yet18:38
panfistunless that's changed since november18:38
bafflepanfist: Ah, that might be true.18:39
bafflepanfist: Didn't think of that; I've moved over to KVM now.18:39
panfisti need a solaris guest, does kvm support that?18:40
panfisti have a zfs thing going on, and no spare hard drives to dump the data and rebuild a linux raid. besides, there is a reason i switched from linux raid to zfs in the first place... the reason i want to run the zfs of a guest is because my video card isn't supported in solaris18:40
panfistso i have two options, buy a new video card or motherboard, or virtualize18:41
panfistor buy 8 TB storage to rebuild the array18:41
panfistthat's right out, for being too expensive18:41
panfisti figure i will try the virtualization thing, because it's free, and if that doesn't work out then get an nvidia graphics card18:42
bafflepanfist: Seems like KVM supports solaris: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status18:44
panfistfully or paravirtualized?18:44
panfisti was going to set up the solaris vm as a paravirtualized guest and hopefully get close-to-bare-metal performance of the zpool18:45
bafflepanfist: Using HVM, not sure if there are paravirtualized i/o yet.18:45
panfistummm do i have my terminology wrong18:46
panfistis paravirtualization what i want?18:47
bafflepanfist: Seems XEN might be the best way to go; I don't think there is support for paravirtualized i/o (virtio) in Solaris yet. So you will not get close to bare-metal performance.18:48
panfistwell, since you seem to be experienced with KVM, maybe you can let me know, what kind of performance would i expect managing the raid from a guest os?18:48
panfistok18:48
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sorenmathiaz: I have a few questions about the puppet-etckeeper integration.19:19
mathiazsoren: hi!19:19
sorenmathiaz: Apologies in advance if I go missing all of a sudden; Sofie's ill so she demands a lot of attention.19:20
sorenmathiaz: Oh, right: Hi :)19:20
mathiazsoren: no problem - a human being is more important than a puppet and a keeper :)19:20
soren:)19:20
sorenmathiaz: The spec says that it should support two modes: a) overwrite local changes, or b) abort on local changes and o19:21
sorenutput the diff.19:21
sorenwhoops.19:21
sorenMeh, you can join lines.19:21
sorenIn b) where should this output go?19:21
sorenThe diff etckeeper subcommand is listed as a "Later" work item, but this output depends on it, so I'm curious if it was deferred?19:22
soren(I did actually implement that diff subcommand, so if we can think of a place to put the output, that's cool).19:22
mathiazsoren: hm - good question19:23
mathiazsoren:  This is hasn't been really discussed19:23
sorenmathiaz: Alright.19:23
mathiazsoren: so - for the spec and lucid alpha3 it's not important19:23
mathiazsoren: for alpha3, the goal is to have a similar experience to what apt/etckeeper does for now19:24
sorenmathiaz: Ok.19:24
mathiazsoren: ie: run etckeeper before modifying any files, run etckeeper after puppet has modified all the files19:24
sorenmathiaz: Have you thought about where to put this code? Should it be in a new puppet-etckeeper package that attempts to do the right thing if installed, or should we make etckeeper a dependency of puppet and stick the hooks in there by default?19:25
mathiazsoren: I wouldn't make etckeeper a dependency19:25
sorenmathiaz: Ok.19:25
mathiazsoren: if etckeeper is installed, puppet should automatically integrate with it19:26
sorenOk. So I could put the integration code in puppet and have the hook scripts check whether etckeeper is installed, and if not, just bail out.19:26
mathiazsoren: sounds like a good plan to me19:26
sorenAlright.19:26
sorenOne more thing:19:27
mathiazsoren: and have puppet *suggest* etckeeper19:27
sorenNot even recommend? Ok. Your call :)19:27
sorenThe other thing: "run etckeeper before modifying any files"... What to do there? Commit local changes?19:27
mathiazsoren: yes19:27
mathiazsoren: that's what apt does19:27
sorenmathiaz: Oh, it does it before doing anything as well?19:28
sorenI didn't realise. Cool.19:28
mathiazsoren: yes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/377070/19:29
sorenWicked.19:29
sorenDum, da dum..19:29
baffleAnyone care to help me look at a LVM/clvm/initramfs problem?19:30
sorenbaffle: Feel free to shoot. If I can be of help, I'll pitch in.19:31
* soren is not really clvm savvy, but still..19:31
sorenmathiaz: I will consider failure of etckeeper non-fatal for now.19:32
* mathiaz nods19:33
bafflesoren: I have root and swap on a local pv/vg. I also have some virtual machine logical volumes on a "remote" pv/vg (SAN). This vg is clustered.19:33
bafflesoren: This means I have specified locking_type = 2 in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf, so that clustering on these volumes work.19:34
sorenbaffle: ok.19:34
bafflesoren: I've also enabled fallback to local clustering and local locking (for local volumes only) in lvm.conf.19:34
bafflesoren: When creating the initramfs (update-intramfs -u) it seems liblvm2clusterlock.so does not get copied to /lib/lvm2/ in the initramfs-image.19:35
bafflesoren: Ofcourse, liblvm2clusterlock.so would not *work* during the initramfs boot, as the cluster is not running.19:36
bafflesoren: But lvm now seems to error because liblvm2clusterlock.so does not exist, and exists instead of falling back.19:36
bafflesoren: (During the boot phase)19:37
bafflesoren: So the local (non-clustered) root-filsystems doesn't start.19:37
bafflesoren: To boot the server, I have to edit lvm.conf in the initramfs manually and change it to a non-clustered config and manually activate the logical volumes (lvm lvchange -a y /dev/blah/root & swap)19:38
sorenbaffle: Ok.19:39
bafflesoren: So, I'm not really sure if this is a) A missing hook for copying liblvm2clusterlock.so into the initrd, or b) An error in lvm2 that doesn't handle missing dependencies.19:39
bafflesoren: Or c) something totally unrelated. :)19:39
sorenbaffle: Have you tried copying liblvm2clusterlock.so in there to see the effects?19:39
bafflesoren: But basically the result is that the combination of root on LVM and clustered LVM breaks totally.19:39
bafflesoren: No, is there an easy way to do that?19:39
sorenbaffle: How did you edit the lvm.conf in initramfs?19:40
sorenOh, from the initramfs prompt?19:40
bafflesoren: Yes, from the initramfs busybox shell. :)19:40
sorenOk.19:40
bafflesoren: sed < /etc/lvm/lvm.conf 's:locking_type = 2:locking_type = 1:' > /etc/lvm/meh ; mv /etc/lvm/meh /etc/lvm/lvm.conf19:41
baffleYay. :)19:41
sorenIn /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/lvm2, you see the code that copies the lvm2 related stuff into initramfs.19:41
sorencopy_exec is a function that's supposed to copy the binary itself and all its dependencies.19:42
sorenHowever, I imagine the clvm stuff is dl_open'ed at runtime rather than linked.19:42
soren...which would explain our problem.19:42
sorens/our/your/, I suppose :)19:42
sorenSo, if that will fix it, the solution will be to add a hook to the clvm package that copies the relevant libraries.19:43
bafflesoren: Yes, it is dl_open'ed.19:44
bafflesoren: Updating and booting the server now.19:44
sorenWell, there we go. That's why copy_exec doesn't to the trick.19:45
sorenIt uses ldd to figure out what else to copy.19:45
sorenIIRC anyway.19:45
sorenSomething to that effect.19:45
bafflesoren: It takes a little while to boot, the servers are slow to boot.19:46
baffleWow, that was redundant.19:46
sorenFresh off the press from the department of redundancy department.19:47
bafflesoren: Hmm, seems that didn't fix it. It doesn't complain about the missing library anymore.19:50
sorenbaffle: Dang.19:52
sorenToo easy.19:52
bafflesoren: I hoped it was something that easy. Bah.19:56
MTecknologyuseless redundancy: atm machine; pin number; this slow server is slow19:56
baffleMTecknology: :)19:57
sorenbaffle: How did you copy in liblvm2clusterlock.so ?19:59
sorenbaffle: Using copy_exec?19:59
bafflesoren: No, using mkdir $dest/lib/lvm2 & cp -p /lib/lvm2/blah.so $dest/lib/lvm2. So that worked. It didn't output an error about that.20:00
bafflesoren: But I just tought of something, maybe it will fix it.20:01
bafflesoren: Just noticed that fallback_to_clustered_locking = 1 (as well as fallback_to_local_locking = 1) .. But even after changing to "fallback_to_local_locking = 0" pvscan etc fails.20:04
sorenbaffle: No errors?20:04
bafflesoren: Yes, 1 sec.20:05
bafflesoren: http://i.imgur.com/Kjdf7.jpg20:07
sorenbaffle: Oh, right clvmd.20:07
bafflesoren: Yes, that is the locking library. :)20:07
bafflesoren: But this has worked before I think? I mean, people *have* booted their clustered machines before. :-)20:08
sorenSo they say.20:08
soren:)20:08
sorenIs this Lucid?20:09
bafflesoren: Maybe everyone uses ksplice.20:09
bafflesoren: It is karmic.20:09
* soren ponders20:09
sorenbaffle: Bah. Someone who's actually ever used clvm should probably be able to say something remotely informed about this. Incidentally, I've never used it.20:11
bafflesoren: Hmm, it just seems fallback doesn't work at all, even if I try to set locking_type to 3 (clustered locking, but internal instead of external) it still doesn't fallback to local..20:20
baffleHmm, I should check how it works on another release.20:24
zookoFolks: synaptic has a cool feature for choosing the fastest ubuntu apt repository.20:48
zookoBut I want to do that for a server to which I have only ssh access -- no X.20:48
zookoIs there a textual, command-line tool that does the same thing?20:48
zookoI know that Debian has two -- netselect and apt-spy -- but Ubuntu seems to have neither.20:49
MTecknologyzooko: I never thoguht about it, but that would be nice20:51
sorenmathiaz: lp:~soren/ubuntu/lucid/puppet/etckeeper-integration for your reviewing pleasure.20:52
sorenmathiaz: Also, I'm feeling quite under the weather. I may "call in" sick tomorrow, so if I'm not back yet to upload before FF, could you take care of that?20:53
mathiazsoren: sure20:53
sorenIt's amazing, really. Going to all these UDS's, acquiring all sorts of weird viruses from all over the world, training up my immune defence... and my daughter brings home something from day care, and I'm out for days. :(20:54
mathiazsoren: I'm sure you'll survive ;)20:55
mathiazsoren: your branch looks god20:55
mathiazsoren: *good*20:55
mathiazsoren: I'll probably do another upload of puppet as I've run into an issue with puppetmaster20:56
sorenmathiaz: Do share.20:56
mathiazsoren: debian bug 57001220:57
uvirtbotDebian bug 570012 in puppetmaster "puppetmaster fails to start: puppet user missing" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/57001220:57
sorenOh.20:58
sorenYeah, puppet-common.postinst should totally be creating that user rather that puppet.postinst.20:58
sorenOh, as you say yourself, apparantly :)20:58
MTecknologyzooko: I'm not finding anything helpful... Sorry :( - maybe we need to package netselect or apt-spy for Ubuntu with a few tweaks to make it work. Email me and I'll look into it.21:06
zookoWhat's your email address?21:07
* MTecknology @ubuntu.com21:08
MTecknologyzooko: thanks, I keep my to-do list in email form :P21:13
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fbc-mxhow do you mount the persistence file on a LIVECD/USB key?21:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #522339 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.18-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script pre-removal installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52233921:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #520729 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52072921:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #522160 in qemu-kvm (main) "qemu 0.12.2 now available" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52216022:56

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