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h00ktonyyarusso: we got about 2 inches today00:10
h00ktonyyarusso: how was your snowshoeing?00:11
TakyojiGah.. http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/dell-dropping-its-ubuntu-offerings-24300:32
tonyyarussoh00k: very nice - it was a good day for it.00:32
TakyojiWhat is this world coming to?00:34
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Some blog claims Dell is dropping Ubuntu about every two months...00:36
TakyojiDropping an Ubuntu-based product every 2 months?00:36
tonyyarussoblog claims every 2 months.00:37
TakyojiI'm still not quite interpreting properly00:38
tonyyarussoTakyoji: "We will offer Ubuntu pre-installed again in the future, but it will not be for several weeks. We offer systems with FreeDOS installed, which allows users to install their preferred Linux distribution. If Cal called the customer consumer sales department, though, they may not know this and obviously would try to sell him a Windows-based PC. The majority of purchasing for these systems happens online -- and are made by ...00:40
tonyyarusso... Linux enthusiasts, not by mainstream users."00:40
tonyyarussoTakyoji: The title/URL is a sham intended to increase traffic.00:40
Takyojias a sidenote, it was on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter00:43
TakyojiWhy hasn't someone written a plugin yet that replaces Youtube's Flash-based player to something that plays through Totem or VLC or something; like someone has done for Epiphany?01:05
_diablothat would be fantastic01:07
_diabloeverything needs that01:07
_diablopidgin needs that01:07
mr_steveI need to register a real domain soon and ditch this DynDNS crap04:07
kermitTakyoji: i think there is, for mplayer04:12
kermitTakyoji: youtube plugin that is04:12
Takyojiahh04:16
Takyojiotherwise it seems like someone I help has a malware infection04:16
Takyojithis one: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-personal-security04:16
Takyojisupposedly from a P2P application.04:17
TakyojiI have a stupid question; does anyone have a stupid answer?04:23
Takyoji:P04:23
mr_steveTakyoji, I've got plenty of stupid answers :)04:24
TakyojiWould Ubuntu be able to connect to a wireless network with SSID broadcasting turned off?04:24
mr_steveIt bloody well should04:24
TakyojiWould I have to manually select it everytime I want to connect to it, or?04:24
mr_steveHmm, good question. Networks that don't broadcast SSID do still broadcast beacons...04:25
mr_steveI would think Ubuntu could still autoconnect to it04:26
TakyojiWant to know something really stupid? Apparently my wireless router; whenever you try to activate/deactivate SSID broadcasting or change the encryption type, it won't submit in anything other than Internet Explorer...04:26
mr_steveHeh, lame04:26
TakyojiI think I'll actually be back in a moment or so04:27
kermitthat's a long moment05:27
kermit"oh no, i broke my wireless, and can't find my ethernet cable!"05:27
mr_steveHey, Takyoji you came back! Guess that hidden SSID didn't work out so well for ya, eh ;)20:05
Obsidian1723hidden SSID = worthless.. ya know that right?>20:05
TakyojiActually it did work; was just playing chess with my mother afterwards. :P20:06
mr_steveah I see20:06
mr_steveI just thought it was hilarious. Like famous last words or something. "Just gonna tweak my network a little, brb.."20:07
Takyojiheh ahh, yea20:08
TakyojiAnyone done tethering with Blackberry by the way?20:45
kermitthat minneapolis wifi is free to anyone with the right MAC21:09
Obsidian1723what is the right MAC?21:11
kermitObsidian1723: whichever one works21:31
Obsidian1723hmmm so hunt and peck, figure it out?21:40
Obsidian1723Cause you can spoof a MAC addy easily enough.21:40
kermityeah21:49
kermitwhatever seems to be working for anyone else, after they're done using it21:49
Obsidian1723Could always use aircrack-ng on it.21:58
kermitcrack what? it's not encrypted.22:01
Obsidian1723It wants you to pay for it, right?22:12
tonyyarussoBrute forcing a MAC address?  That sounds quick...281474976710656 possibilities.22:26
tonyyarussoEven if you assume that every single resident of Minneapolis is a subscriber with their own device, you get a one in a million shot with each address.22:29
tonyyarussoIf you further assume 10 seconds to try each MAC, statistically speaking it should take you about 114 years to get a working one.  Have fun!  :P22:31
Obsidian1723Just clone the MAC22:38
Obsidian1723You cant brute force it really.22:38
TakyojiVILLAGERS, I bring good news!22:41
TakyojiI have found another interesting to join in our clan and our odyssey of Linux!22:42
Takyojianother one interested*22:42
TakyojiA person in her 40s whom is interested in having Ubuntu installed; and is also going to help try to think of a potential location for an installfest down here.22:43
TakyojiShe runs a business called "Fox Video Productions" locally and wants me to make a website for her (she's been in business for years though or something)22:44
TakyojiShe's also a bit networked with everyone, considering she does things for the local television and groups and so on.22:44
TakyojiAnd aside from that, I think I found some software that I could package and/or contribute to: berry4all22:45
TakyojiWhich is for conveniently tethering a Blackberry22:46
Takyojishe also sounds interested in releasing her work under Creative Commons rather than all rights reserved22:46
tonyyarussoSounds good!23:11
tonyyarussoYou may want to double-check what the compatibility situation is with CC for software - I've never looked at it for that myself.23:11
TakyojiShe creates videos23:14
tonyyarussooh, right, nvm23:17
tonyyarussoI got confused between her and your packaging...23:17
TakyojiBleh.. Bing commercials..23:52

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