[00:10] <h00k> tonyyarusso: we got about 2 inches today
[00:11] <h00k> tonyyarusso: how was your snowshoeing?
[00:32] <Takyoji> Gah.. http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/dell-dropping-its-ubuntu-offerings-243
[00:32] <tonyyarusso> h00k: very nice - it was a good day for it.
[00:34] <Takyoji> What is this world coming to?
[00:36] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Some blog claims Dell is dropping Ubuntu about every two months...
[00:36] <Takyoji> Dropping an Ubuntu-based product every 2 months?
[00:37] <tonyyarusso> blog claims every 2 months.
[00:38] <Takyoji> I'm still not quite interpreting properly
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: "We will offer Ubuntu pre-installed again in the future, but it will not be for several weeks. We offer systems with FreeDOS installed, which allows users to install their preferred Linux distribution. If Cal called the customer consumer sales department, though, they may not know this and obviously would try to sell him a Windows-based PC. The majority of purchasing for these systems happens online -- and are made by ...
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> ... Linux enthusiasts, not by mainstream users."
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: The title/URL is a sham intended to increase traffic.
[00:43] <Takyoji> as a sidenote, it was on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter
[01:05] <Takyoji> Why hasn't someone written a plugin yet that replaces Youtube's Flash-based player to something that plays through Totem or VLC or something; like someone has done for Epiphany?
[01:07] <_diablo> that would be fantastic
[01:07] <_diablo> everything needs that
[01:07] <_diablo> pidgin needs that
[04:07] <mr_steve> I need to register a real domain soon and ditch this DynDNS crap
[04:12] <kermit> Takyoji: i think there is, for mplayer
[04:12] <kermit> Takyoji: youtube plugin that is
[04:16] <Takyoji> ahh
[04:16] <Takyoji> otherwise it seems like someone I help has a malware infection
[04:16] <Takyoji> this one: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-personal-security
[04:17] <Takyoji> supposedly from a P2P application.
[04:23] <Takyoji> I have a stupid question; does anyone have a stupid answer?
[04:23] <Takyoji> :P
[04:24] <mr_steve> Takyoji, I've got plenty of stupid answers :)
[04:24] <Takyoji> Would Ubuntu be able to connect to a wireless network with SSID broadcasting turned off?
[04:24] <mr_steve> It bloody well should
[04:24] <Takyoji> Would I have to manually select it everytime I want to connect to it, or?
[04:25] <mr_steve> Hmm, good question. Networks that don't broadcast SSID do still broadcast beacons...
[04:26] <mr_steve> I would think Ubuntu could still autoconnect to it
[04:26] <Takyoji> Want to know something really stupid? Apparently my wireless router; whenever you try to activate/deactivate SSID broadcasting or change the encryption type, it won't submit in anything other than Internet Explorer...
[04:26] <mr_steve> Heh, lame
[04:27] <Takyoji> I think I'll actually be back in a moment or so
[05:27] <kermit> that's a long moment
[05:27] <kermit> "oh no, i broke my wireless, and can't find my ethernet cable!"
[20:05] <mr_steve> Hey, Takyoji you came back! Guess that hidden SSID didn't work out so well for ya, eh ;)
[20:05] <Obsidian1723> hidden SSID = worthless.. ya know that right?>
[20:06] <Takyoji> Actually it did work; was just playing chess with my mother afterwards. :P
[20:06] <mr_steve> ah I see
[20:07] <mr_steve> I just thought it was hilarious. Like famous last words or something. "Just gonna tweak my network a little, brb.."
[20:08] <Takyoji> heh ahh, yea
[20:45] <Takyoji> Anyone done tethering with Blackberry by the way?
[21:09] <kermit> that minneapolis wifi is free to anyone with the right MAC
[21:11] <Obsidian1723> what is the right MAC?
[21:31] <kermit> Obsidian1723: whichever one works
[21:40] <Obsidian1723> hmmm so hunt and peck, figure it out?
[21:40] <Obsidian1723> Cause you can spoof a MAC addy easily enough.
[21:49] <kermit> yeah
[21:49] <kermit> whatever seems to be working for anyone else, after they're done using it
[21:58] <Obsidian1723> Could always use aircrack-ng on it.
[22:01] <kermit> crack what? it's not encrypted.
[22:12] <Obsidian1723> It wants you to pay for it, right?
[22:26] <tonyyarusso> Brute forcing a MAC address?  That sounds quick...281474976710656 possibilities.
[22:29] <tonyyarusso> Even if you assume that every single resident of Minneapolis is a subscriber with their own device, you get a one in a million shot with each address.
[22:31] <tonyyarusso> If you further assume 10 seconds to try each MAC, statistically speaking it should take you about 114 years to get a working one.  Have fun!  :P
[22:38] <Obsidian1723> Just clone the MAC
[22:38] <Obsidian1723> You cant brute force it really.
[22:41] <Takyoji> VILLAGERS, I bring good news!
[22:42] <Takyoji> I have found another interesting to join in our clan and our odyssey of Linux!
[22:42] <Takyoji> another one interested*
[22:43] <Takyoji> A person in her 40s whom is interested in having Ubuntu installed; and is also going to help try to think of a potential location for an installfest down here.
[22:44] <Takyoji> She runs a business called "Fox Video Productions" locally and wants me to make a website for her (she's been in business for years though or something)
[22:44] <Takyoji> She's also a bit networked with everyone, considering she does things for the local television and groups and so on.
[22:45] <Takyoji> And aside from that, I think I found some software that I could package and/or contribute to: berry4all
[22:46] <Takyoji> Which is for conveniently tethering a Blackberry
[22:46] <Takyoji> she also sounds interested in releasing her work under Creative Commons rather than all rights reserved
[23:11] <tonyyarusso> Sounds good!
[23:11] <tonyyarusso> You may want to double-check what the compatibility situation is with CC for software - I've never looked at it for that myself.
[23:14] <Takyoji> She creates videos
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> oh, right, nvm
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> I got confused between her and your packaging...
[23:52] <Takyoji> Bleh.. Bing commercials..