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* abogani wondering if choice about kernels was taken...12:08
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dholbachhiya17:05
ScottL_hi dholbach 17:07
dholbachhey ScottL_17:07
dholbachstochastic_: ever heard of xwax playing tracks much too fast?17:08
dholbachstochastic_: which timecode vinyl do you use?17:09
ScottL_TheMuso: since you deal with the assessibility, I read about Orca lead developer being fired lately :(   http://lwn.net/Articles/373475/rss18:14
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aboganiAnyone are around?18:34
ScottL_hi abogani18:42
aboganiScottL_: Fee... _live_ in this channel...18:42
abogani:-)18:42
ScottL_are you asking if I live in this channel?18:43
aboganiNo I ask if there are _life_ in general in this channel.18:43
aboganiThere are two days that I try to know if someone has taken decisions about kernels.18:44
ScottL_yes, I was wondering if any decisions were made about the kernel as well18:44
aboganiScottL_: What is your TZ?18:45
ScottL_Central (US)18:45
aboganiScottL_: What is the nearest to you big city? I would want add your TZ into Gnome Clock18:47
ScottL_Houston, Texas probably.  I would also suggest Dallas but I expect Houston will be there because of NASA.18:48
ScottL_abogani: I'm curious as well, where do you live?18:49
aboganiScottL_: Prato, 17Km Florence in the middle of Italy18:50
aboganiI meant 17km near Floirence18:51
aboganiFlorence18:51
aboganiScottL_: http://maps.google.com/places/it/prato-city?hl=en18:54
aboganiScottL_: Do you know TZ of others Studio Developers?18:56
ScottL_heh, I was guessing Italy by your (presumably) last name :)19:01
crimsunI'm EST (currently -0500)19:02
crimsunso is mma19:02
ScottL_re: Studio Developers - I know generalities but no specifics19:02
ScottL_cory was east coast, themuso is in Australia, stochastic is somewhere in Canada19:02
aboganicrimsun: Could you give a city name, please?19:03
ScottL_abogani: those are some extremely beautiful pictures shown on the link you gave19:04
ScottL_that is something that the US does not have that Europe does...such a long, rich history, archetecture and CASTLES!19:04
aboganiFlorence have betters one :-)19:04
ScottL_yeah, the US actually does have a few castles, but not like Europe19:04
ScottL_http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g=Prato+PO%2C+Italy&q=montgomery%2C+texas&btnG=Search+Maps19:05
crimsunabogani: Washington, DC19:05
ScottL_that's the closest city to my house...we live in an unincorporated area (or otherwise know as "outside the city limits")19:06
aboganiScottL_: Cool19:06
aboganiScottL_, crimsun: Thanks!19:07
aboganiI go to eat something...19:07
* abogani comes back19:33
* abogani listen "Canon e Gigue" by Remsky19:42
TheMusoScottL_: Yeah thats old news to me. :)21:02
* abogani , meanwhile continuously request review on -motu, notice that Luke is around...21:35
aboganiTheMuso: Good morning! 08:35 ?21:35
TheMusoHi abogani.21:36
ScottL_TheMuso: did you have secret, insider information or is information in the article old?21:42
TheMusoScottL_: Its rather public info from a couple of weeks back.21:42
TheMusoScottL_: But I was one of the first to find out.21:42
ScottL_TheMuso: so, it sounds like a little "yes" for options then :)21:43
TheMusoScottL_: I don't follow.21:46
aboganipersia: Are you around?21:47
ScottL_TheMuso: sorry, English is my first language, i'll be better at my second one J/K21:47
TheMusoScottL_: heh21:48
ScottL_i meant 'yes' to BOTH options  - meaning you sort of had insider information if you were on of the first people to find out and the information was public for a while now21:48
TheMusoScottL_: oh ok21:50
TheMusoScottL_: yeah that sounds about right21:50
ScottL_anyone heard from luis lately?  cory was supposed to send an email but I haven't seen him lately either :(21:51
TheMusoI've heard nothing.22:02
aboganiTheMuso: May I disturb you for a minute?22:16
TheMusoabogani: Sure.22:23
aboganiTheMuso: Have you followed discussions about kernels on Lucid for Studio (that is -preempt vs -lowlatency vs -rt vs -generic)?22:25
TheMusoabogani: Not really I am sorry, I have been busy with other things.22:30
aboganiTheMuso: Ok. I don't want waste your time so only a question:22:31
TheMusosure22:31
aboganiTheMuso: In your opinion do you have a chance to convince Tim Gardner to release i386 -preempt kernel also?22:32
aboganiTheMuso: Ubuntu Kernel Team provide only amd64 one. This is why we are the -lowlatency.22:33
aboganiInto our PPA22:33
TheMusoabogani: No sorry, I don't really have time to try and chase that up, and unfortunately my experience is trying to get such things done with the kernel guys is sometimes like going against a brick wall.22:34
aboganiTheMuso: Same for me :(22:34
aboganiTheMuso: Do you have any problems if I request per-package upload rights on linux-rt?22:36
TheMusoabogani: No, but I haven't really seen any of your recent work appart from that rt upload a while back.22:36
TheMusoabogani: So I am not sure how strong your packaging skills are yet.22:36
aboganiAlways better than nothing22:39
troy_sSide note, has anyone done any tests regarding illustration / drawing and low latency kernels?22:40
troy_sSorry to jut in, but I could easily see real time kernels being useful to artists.22:40
aboganiReally? I always supposed that -rt was useful only for audio artists.22:43
ScottL_hi troy_s,   also, i'm intrigued by your comment :)22:44
ScottL_but I'll read about it when I get home22:44
troy_sScottL_: Well that's too bad.22:44
troy_sabogani: Well so did I22:44
troy_sabogani: I'm wondering though. 22:44
troy_sabogani: In a traditional workflow, you are sketching and drawing large strokes etc.22:45
troy_sabogani: If you do this with a tablet, and draw larger strokes (as on a 6x11 tablet) or fast strokes, you get polygonal responses - the kernel can't seem to keep up with the speed of input.22:45
troy_sabogani: I'm wondering if _maybe_ -rt would help to bring that latency down?22:45
aboganitroy_s: Sorry but I don't have direct experience with tablet: I really don't know. The only chance to discover it is testing.22:47
aboganiunfortunately I don't have any tablet :-(22:47
troy_sabogani: I'd test, but I can't think of a way to really prove conclusively with numerical data.22:47
aboganitroy_s: I suspect that only "user experience" are valid.22:49
aboganiSorry guys. It is very late for me. Bed is calling me :-)22:51
aboganiCiao!22:51

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