=== hansfbaier_ is now known as hansfbaier [08:33] * abogani waves === hansfbaier_ is now known as hansfbaier [12:08] * abogani wondering if choice about kernels was taken... === hansfbaier_ is now known as hansfbaier [17:05] hiya [17:07] hi dholbach [17:07] hey ScottL_ [17:08] stochastic_: ever heard of xwax playing tracks much too fast? [17:09] stochastic_: which timecode vinyl do you use? [18:14] TheMuso: since you deal with the assessibility, I read about Orca lead developer being fired lately :( http://lwn.net/Articles/373475/rss [18:28] * abogani waves [18:34] Anyone are around? [18:42] hi abogani [18:42] ScottL_: Fee... _live_ in this channel... [18:42] :-) [18:43] are you asking if I live in this channel? [18:43] No I ask if there are _life_ in general in this channel. [18:44] There are two days that I try to know if someone has taken decisions about kernels. [18:44] yes, I was wondering if any decisions were made about the kernel as well [18:45] ScottL_: What is your TZ? [18:45] Central (US) [18:47] ScottL_: What is the nearest to you big city? I would want add your TZ into Gnome Clock [18:48] Houston, Texas probably. I would also suggest Dallas but I expect Houston will be there because of NASA. [18:49] abogani: I'm curious as well, where do you live? [18:50] ScottL_: Prato, 17Km Florence in the middle of Italy [18:51] I meant 17km near Floirence [18:51] Florence [18:54] ScottL_: http://maps.google.com/places/it/prato-city?hl=en [18:56] ScottL_: Do you know TZ of others Studio Developers? [19:01] heh, I was guessing Italy by your (presumably) last name :) [19:02] I'm EST (currently -0500) [19:02] so is mma [19:02] re: Studio Developers - I know generalities but no specifics [19:02] cory was east coast, themuso is in Australia, stochastic is somewhere in Canada [19:03] crimsun: Could you give a city name, please? [19:04] abogani: those are some extremely beautiful pictures shown on the link you gave [19:04] that is something that the US does not have that Europe does...such a long, rich history, archetecture and CASTLES! [19:04] Florence have betters one :-) [19:04] yeah, the US actually does have a few castles, but not like Europe [19:05] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g=Prato+PO%2C+Italy&q=montgomery%2C+texas&btnG=Search+Maps [19:05] abogani: Washington, DC [19:06] that's the closest city to my house...we live in an unincorporated area (or otherwise know as "outside the city limits") [19:06] ScottL_: Cool [19:07] ScottL_, crimsun: Thanks! [19:07] I go to eat something... [19:33] * abogani comes back [19:42] * abogani listen "Canon e Gigue" by Remsky [21:02] ScottL_: Yeah thats old news to me. :) [21:35] * abogani , meanwhile continuously request review on -motu, notice that Luke is around... [21:35] TheMuso: Good morning! 08:35 ? [21:36] Hi abogani. [21:42] TheMuso: did you have secret, insider information or is information in the article old? [21:42] ScottL_: Its rather public info from a couple of weeks back. [21:42] ScottL_: But I was one of the first to find out. [21:43] TheMuso: so, it sounds like a little "yes" for options then :) [21:46] ScottL_: I don't follow. [21:47] persia: Are you around? [21:47] TheMuso: sorry, English is my first language, i'll be better at my second one J/K [21:48] ScottL_: heh [21:48] i meant 'yes' to BOTH options - meaning you sort of had insider information if you were on of the first people to find out and the information was public for a while now [21:50] ScottL_: oh ok [21:50] ScottL_: yeah that sounds about right [21:51] anyone heard from luis lately? cory was supposed to send an email but I haven't seen him lately either :( [22:02] I've heard nothing. [22:16] TheMuso: May I disturb you for a minute? [22:23] abogani: Sure. [22:25] TheMuso: Have you followed discussions about kernels on Lucid for Studio (that is -preempt vs -lowlatency vs -rt vs -generic)? [22:30] abogani: Not really I am sorry, I have been busy with other things. [22:31] TheMuso: Ok. I don't want waste your time so only a question: [22:31] sure [22:32] TheMuso: In your opinion do you have a chance to convince Tim Gardner to release i386 -preempt kernel also? [22:33] TheMuso: Ubuntu Kernel Team provide only amd64 one. This is why we are the -lowlatency. [22:33] Into our PPA [22:34] abogani: No sorry, I don't really have time to try and chase that up, and unfortunately my experience is trying to get such things done with the kernel guys is sometimes like going against a brick wall. [22:34] TheMuso: Same for me :( [22:36] TheMuso: Do you have any problems if I request per-package upload rights on linux-rt? [22:36] abogani: No, but I haven't really seen any of your recent work appart from that rt upload a while back. [22:36] abogani: So I am not sure how strong your packaging skills are yet. [22:39] Always better than nothing [22:40] Side note, has anyone done any tests regarding illustration / drawing and low latency kernels? [22:40] Sorry to jut in, but I could easily see real time kernels being useful to artists. [22:43] Really? I always supposed that -rt was useful only for audio artists. [22:44] hi troy_s, also, i'm intrigued by your comment :) [22:44] but I'll read about it when I get home [22:44] ScottL_: Well that's too bad. [22:44] abogani: Well so did I [22:44] abogani: I'm wondering though. [22:45] abogani: In a traditional workflow, you are sketching and drawing large strokes etc. [22:45] abogani: If you do this with a tablet, and draw larger strokes (as on a 6x11 tablet) or fast strokes, you get polygonal responses - the kernel can't seem to keep up with the speed of input. [22:45] abogani: I'm wondering if _maybe_ -rt would help to bring that latency down? [22:47] troy_s: Sorry but I don't have direct experience with tablet: I really don't know. The only chance to discover it is testing. [22:47] unfortunately I don't have any tablet :-( [22:47] abogani: I'd test, but I can't think of a way to really prove conclusively with numerical data. [22:49] troy_s: I suspect that only "user experience" are valid. [22:51] Sorry guys. It is very late for me. Bed is calling me :-) [22:51] Ciao!