[08:33]  * abogani waves
[12:08]  * abogani wondering if choice about kernels was taken...
[17:05] <dholbach> hiya
[17:07] <ScottL_> hi dholbach 
[17:07] <dholbach> hey ScottL_
[17:08] <dholbach> stochastic_: ever heard of xwax playing tracks much too fast?
[17:09] <dholbach> stochastic_: which timecode vinyl do you use?
[18:14] <ScottL_> TheMuso: since you deal with the assessibility, I read about Orca lead developer being fired lately :(   http://lwn.net/Articles/373475/rss
[18:28]  * abogani waves
[18:34] <abogani> Anyone are around?
[18:42] <ScottL_> hi abogani
[18:42] <abogani> ScottL_: Fee... _live_ in this channel...
[18:42] <abogani> :-)
[18:43] <ScottL_> are you asking if I live in this channel?
[18:43] <abogani> No I ask if there are _life_ in general in this channel.
[18:44] <abogani> There are two days that I try to know if someone has taken decisions about kernels.
[18:44] <ScottL_> yes, I was wondering if any decisions were made about the kernel as well
[18:45] <abogani> ScottL_: What is your TZ?
[18:45] <ScottL_> Central (US)
[18:47] <abogani> ScottL_: What is the nearest to you big city? I would want add your TZ into Gnome Clock
[18:48] <ScottL_> Houston, Texas probably.  I would also suggest Dallas but I expect Houston will be there because of NASA.
[18:49] <ScottL_> abogani: I'm curious as well, where do you live?
[18:50] <abogani> ScottL_: Prato, 17Km Florence in the middle of Italy
[18:51] <abogani> I meant 17km near Floirence
[18:51] <abogani> Florence
[18:54] <abogani> ScottL_: http://maps.google.com/places/it/prato-city?hl=en
[18:56] <abogani> ScottL_: Do you know TZ of others Studio Developers?
[19:01] <ScottL_> heh, I was guessing Italy by your (presumably) last name :)
[19:02] <crimsun> I'm EST (currently -0500)
[19:02] <crimsun> so is mma
[19:02] <ScottL_> re: Studio Developers - I know generalities but no specifics
[19:02] <ScottL_> cory was east coast, themuso is in Australia, stochastic is somewhere in Canada
[19:03] <abogani> crimsun: Could you give a city name, please?
[19:04] <ScottL_> abogani: those are some extremely beautiful pictures shown on the link you gave
[19:04] <ScottL_> that is something that the US does not have that Europe does...such a long, rich history, archetecture and CASTLES!
[19:04] <abogani> Florence have betters one :-)
[19:04] <ScottL_> yeah, the US actually does have a few castles, but not like Europe
[19:05] <ScottL_> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&g=Prato+PO%2C+Italy&q=montgomery%2C+texas&btnG=Search+Maps
[19:05] <crimsun> abogani: Washington, DC
[19:06] <ScottL_> that's the closest city to my house...we live in an unincorporated area (or otherwise know as "outside the city limits")
[19:06] <abogani> ScottL_: Cool
[19:07] <abogani> ScottL_, crimsun: Thanks!
[19:07] <abogani> I go to eat something...
[19:33]  * abogani comes back
[19:42]  * abogani listen "Canon e Gigue" by Remsky
[21:02] <TheMuso> ScottL_: Yeah thats old news to me. :)
[21:35]  * abogani , meanwhile continuously request review on -motu, notice that Luke is around...
[21:35] <abogani> TheMuso: Good morning! 08:35 ?
[21:36] <TheMuso> Hi abogani.
[21:42] <ScottL_> TheMuso: did you have secret, insider information or is information in the article old?
[21:42] <TheMuso> ScottL_: Its rather public info from a couple of weeks back.
[21:42] <TheMuso> ScottL_: But I was one of the first to find out.
[21:43] <ScottL_> TheMuso: so, it sounds like a little "yes" for options then :)
[21:46] <TheMuso> ScottL_: I don't follow.
[21:47] <abogani> persia: Are you around?
[21:47] <ScottL_> TheMuso: sorry, English is my first language, i'll be better at my second one J/K
[21:48] <TheMuso> ScottL_: heh
[21:48] <ScottL_> i meant 'yes' to BOTH options  - meaning you sort of had insider information if you were on of the first people to find out and the information was public for a while now
[21:50] <TheMuso> ScottL_: oh ok
[21:50] <TheMuso> ScottL_: yeah that sounds about right
[21:51] <ScottL_> anyone heard from luis lately?  cory was supposed to send an email but I haven't seen him lately either :(
[22:02] <TheMuso> I've heard nothing.
[22:16] <abogani> TheMuso: May I disturb you for a minute?
[22:23] <TheMuso> abogani: Sure.
[22:25] <abogani> TheMuso: Have you followed discussions about kernels on Lucid for Studio (that is -preempt vs -lowlatency vs -rt vs -generic)?
[22:30] <TheMuso> abogani: Not really I am sorry, I have been busy with other things.
[22:31] <abogani> TheMuso: Ok. I don't want waste your time so only a question:
[22:31] <TheMuso> sure
[22:32] <abogani> TheMuso: In your opinion do you have a chance to convince Tim Gardner to release i386 -preempt kernel also?
[22:33] <abogani> TheMuso: Ubuntu Kernel Team provide only amd64 one. This is why we are the -lowlatency.
[22:33] <abogani> Into our PPA
[22:34] <TheMuso> abogani: No sorry, I don't really have time to try and chase that up, and unfortunately my experience is trying to get such things done with the kernel guys is sometimes like going against a brick wall.
[22:34] <abogani> TheMuso: Same for me :(
[22:36] <abogani> TheMuso: Do you have any problems if I request per-package upload rights on linux-rt?
[22:36] <TheMuso> abogani: No, but I haven't really seen any of your recent work appart from that rt upload a while back.
[22:36] <TheMuso> abogani: So I am not sure how strong your packaging skills are yet.
[22:39] <abogani> Always better than nothing
[22:40] <troy_s> Side note, has anyone done any tests regarding illustration / drawing and low latency kernels?
[22:40] <troy_s> Sorry to jut in, but I could easily see real time kernels being useful to artists.
[22:43] <abogani> Really? I always supposed that -rt was useful only for audio artists.
[22:44] <ScottL_> hi troy_s,   also, i'm intrigued by your comment :)
[22:44] <ScottL_> but I'll read about it when I get home
[22:44] <troy_s> ScottL_: Well that's too bad.
[22:44] <troy_s> abogani: Well so did I
[22:44] <troy_s> abogani: I'm wondering though. 
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: In a traditional workflow, you are sketching and drawing large strokes etc.
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: If you do this with a tablet, and draw larger strokes (as on a 6x11 tablet) or fast strokes, you get polygonal responses - the kernel can't seem to keep up with the speed of input.
[22:45] <troy_s> abogani: I'm wondering if _maybe_ -rt would help to bring that latency down?
[22:47] <abogani> troy_s: Sorry but I don't have direct experience with tablet: I really don't know. The only chance to discover it is testing.
[22:47] <abogani> unfortunately I don't have any tablet :-(
[22:47] <troy_s> abogani: I'd test, but I can't think of a way to really prove conclusively with numerical data.
[22:49] <abogani> troy_s: I suspect that only "user experience" are valid.
[22:51] <abogani> Sorry guys. It is very late for me. Bed is calling me :-)
[22:51] <abogani> Ciao!