[01:43] <Boots32M> whats xubuntu???? nbr fit that description?
[01:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> ???
[01:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[01:51] <dbdii407> There might not happen to be a stripped down version of xUbuntu would there? You know, without the applications?
[01:51] <knome> !minimal | dbdii407
[01:51] <knome> dbdii407, that doesn't install xfce or even a graphical environemnt either
[01:52] <dbdii407> you mean, i can't install xfce?
[01:52] <knome> dbdii407, you *can*
[01:52] <knome> dbdii407, but the minimal installation won't install it unless you specifically tell it to
[01:53] <dbdii407> I'm on a Wifi connection. It won't even support that will it?
[01:53] <knome> dbdii407, no, unless you install software that allow you to do that, or hack it working from the CLI
[01:54] <dbdii407> *sigh*
[01:55] <dbdii407> This can never be simple. :P
[02:00] <dbdii407> I just don't need the apps on the release
[02:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> well...remove them in the synaptic package manager..
[02:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> or in ..."applications>addd/remove "
[02:05] <dbdii407> Remove /every single application/ that I have no need for?
[02:05] <dbdii407> I dont really have the time
[02:28] <knome> dbdii407, then live with it.
[02:29] <knome> dbdii407, also, feel free to join our mailing list and explaing us why we *should not* install those applications by default.
[02:30] <knome> dbdii407, but, for what comes for most of the apps - normal users just need them so there is no need to drop them. if there is something particularly annoying you think should be dropped because *most of* the people do not use it, there's more chances to get it actually removed.
[02:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> I second that.
[02:33] <knome> good night now, have fun with xubuntu.
[02:33] <dbdii407> I will not be joining some stupid mailing list, wasting my time, and have the same stuff you just said, come back out of my face. Cause I know it will.
[02:45] <psycho_oreos> the funny irony is that here you are wanting something simple but then talking crap.. why not choose minimalistic distro and then install whatever you need on top?
[02:46] <psycho_oreos> wouldn't that make more sense as opposed to getting xubuntu, trying to strip it down and realising that you have waste more time and effort?
[02:46] <psycho_oreos> s/waste/wasted
[02:49] <dbdii407> to reply to your first message
[02:50] <dbdii407> I've been /trying/ to find one
[02:50] <mhall119> you can do a minimal install of Ubuntu
[02:50] <mhall119> then just add the packages you want
[02:51] <psycho_oreos> you can get server edition which has no X, then you install xfce, done
[02:51] <psycho_oreos> xfce + xorg of course
[02:51] <dbdii407> and my Wifi?
[02:52] <mhall119> most of your wifi goodness comes from desktop packages like NetworkManager an nm-applet
[02:52] <psycho_oreos> doesn't help if you don't tell me what chipset it is, plus if you're looking minimalistic stuff, maybe its worth looking at things like iw, wpa_supplicant.. rather than networkmanager, wicd, etc
[02:52] <psycho_oreos> no
[02:53] <psycho_oreos> for easier sake, networkmanager comes included
[02:53] <mhall119> dbdii407, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[02:56] <dbdii407> does it /have/ to be gnome?
[02:57] <psycho_oreos> its icewm if you looked closely
[02:57] <psycho_oreos> the only thing that would make it look like as if its gnome is probably gdm
[03:03] <mhall119> dbdii407, it can be whatever you install
[03:04] <mhall119> or you can just install LXDE, that uses OpenBox and some light-weight panels
[03:05] <dbdii407> Yea. I've heard about that
[03:15] <dbdii407> but. With everything everyone's mentioned. What do I use to get into my Wifi?
[03:22] <mhall119> whatever you want
[05:00] <ohkine\x> hey there, i'm having trouble getting xfwm and compiz to play together, would anyone happen to know anything about that?
[05:02] <Sysi> i only managed to get compiz work with emerald
[05:27] <Balsaq> Good Morning Xubuntu!
[05:37] <Balsaq> Sysi!!!!
[05:37] <Balsaq> Hows the weather in northern europe?
[07:31] <e1b6> Hi
[07:32] <e1b6> HI anyone there
[07:32] <e1b6> How to enable remote desktop in Xubuntu so that others ca help me remotely
[07:34] <e1b6> hi
[09:17] <migis> hello
[09:18] <migis> does anybody know if google chrome works on xubuntu?
[09:20] <Sysi> i think at least chromium does
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> use those ppa version
[09:27] <petsounds> i never had openjdk working in chrome :(
[10:09] <RobinBE> Hello, I'm trying to avoid a reinstall of Xubuntu here
[10:09] <RobinBE> For my wireless adapter I have to follow these instructions:
[10:09] <RobinBE> http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8212371&postcount=114
[10:09] <RobinBE> But unfortunately I've already plugged in my adapter after the installtion
[10:09] <RobinBE> Is there any way to 'undo' this without reinstalling?
[10:09] <RobinBE> because I can't unload the rt2800usb module now
[10:10] <psycho_oreos> you can if you turn off the device
[10:11] <RobinBE> I have pulled it out
[10:11] <RobinBE> but modprobe -l still lists it after I 'modprobe -r'ed it
[10:12] <psycho_oreos> modprobe -l doesn't show you the currently loaded modules, it shows you the modules it can see from your currently running setup.. all the kernel related modules
[10:12] <RobinBE> oh I see
[10:12] <RobinBE> that explains a lot
[10:12] <psycho_oreos> you meant lsmod
[10:15] <RobinBE> ok the rt2800 module is not loaded
[10:15] <RobinBE> and I did modprobe rt2870sta
[10:15] <RobinBE> then inserted my adapter
[10:15] <RobinBE> but it doesn't work
[10:16] <psycho_oreos> why are you manually modprobing the driver? why not try plugging it in and see if linux loads rt2870sta?
[10:17] <RobinBE> just rebooted
[10:17] <RobinBE> looks like it doesn't
[10:17] <psycho_oreos> if it doesn't it means rt2870sta doesn't have your usb ID added in hence it won't get loaded
[10:18] <psycho_oreos> probably a good idea is to start from scratch with that link you initially posted
[10:18] <RobinBE> ok then, thanks for your help
[10:20] <blurr> hello, I'm new to Xubuntu. Very pleased with it.
[10:21] <blurr> But I'm having a problem compiling some software.
[10:22] <bazhang> blurr, compiling what
[10:22] <blurr> It's in C. It's called HTK.
[10:22] <bazhang> blurr, did you install build-essential
[10:22] <blurr> It's a speech recognition toolkit. I'll post the error I'm getting.
[10:23] <blurr> bazhang: nope. What's that?
[10:23] <bazhang> blurr, what you need should you wish to compile
[10:23] <psycho_oreos> !build-essential
[10:24] <blurr> Okay. I'll try it out. Thanks!
[10:25] <blurr> I'm still getting a string of errors of the form "HTKLVRec/Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting"
[10:25] <blurr> I'll check out the compiling page.
[10:50] <justgreg> hello
[10:50] <justgreg> i am having a litttle trouble with xfce
[10:50] <justgreg> and i was wondering if i could get some help here
[10:51] <Sysi> tell what's up
[10:51] <justgreg> the panel keeps disappearing when i restart
[10:52] <justgreg> earlier today i was on here and someone told me how to restart the panel
[10:52] <justgreg> and i have been doing that
[10:52] <Sysi> !panels
[10:52] <Sysi> save session when you shut down
[10:52] <justgreg> save session, how do i do that?
[10:53] <Sysi> there's tap in logout window
[10:53] <justgreg> the log out window doesn't open anymore.
[10:53] <justgreg> now instead it asks if i want to quit panel
[11:00] <RobinBE> hello, I'm having issues with my wireless adapter
[11:01] <RobinBE> I insert it in this Arch Linux machine and it shows up in lsusb
[11:01] <RobinBE> I do the same with Xubuntu and it doesn't
[11:01] <RobinBE> are the USB ports broken?
[11:20] <faz_kn> how to avail highest resolution in xubuntu os..........
[14:37] <onaogh> how can i remove bootsplash in Xubuntu
[14:38] <Balsaq> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so and select usplash-theme-ubuntu.so
[14:38] <Balsaq> then
[14:38] <Balsaq> sudo update-initramfs -u
[14:39] <onaogh> i have installed xubuntu from ubuntu 9.10.
[14:39] <Balsaq> ok
[14:40] <onaogh> it will work ?
[14:40] <onaogh> i mean removing the bootspash
[14:40] <Balsaq> i think so, but i am no expert
[14:42] <Balsaq> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:42] <Balsaq> another idea...
[14:42] <Balsaq> find the latest kernal and remove quiet splash from that line
[14:44] <Balsaq> i found these answers in the ubuntu forum
[14:45] <knome> onaogh, what do you mean by bootsplash?
[14:46] <onaogh> knome, the fancy moving bar when u start ubuntu
[14:47] <knome> you probably mean xsplash. why do you want to get rid of that?
[14:52] <onaogh> i dont like it
[14:56] <RobinBE>  /wc
[15:01] <obaid_> that was xsplash which got changed
[15:01] <obaid_> i mean the mice logo which appears when i first press power button
[15:02] <obaid_> like the good old days when u start a pc it shows all services starting up [ OK ]
[15:02] <knome> sudo apt-get remove usplash
[15:02] <knome> :P
[15:03] <obaid_> and i can install it later ?
[15:03] <knome> yes.
[17:26] <GodzKnightz> anyone around for a little wireless help?
[17:30] <Sysi> you should at least try to ask
[17:32] <GodzKnightz> Wireless Issue: Won't authenticate WPA with my router, I can connect to unsecure connections fine. Xubuntu 9.10 with Intel(R) Wireless 5100 AGN card
[17:34] <sinbox> you tried troubleshooting via the command line GodzKnightz ?
[17:36] <GodzKnightz> i'm pretty new to linux have finally and officially given up on M$ except for being used for Gaming. So the only help i've gotten is from forums which hasnt helped solve problem at all
[17:37] <sinbox> check this here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[17:39] <GodzKnightz> i've been through there and either i'm missing a step somewhere cause that didnt help either.. supposedly downgrading network manager to the one from 8.04 allows to work but I don't have a clue how to do that
[17:40] <sinbox> also this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319217 as it's an authentication problem, but if you do purge the network manager you have to make sure you have downloaded the deb file first. Or you tr an alternative network manager
[17:41] <sinbox> okto downgrade you will need to uninstall the network manager but first get the deb file for reinstalling the older version
[17:41] <GodzKnightz> i tried the wicd network manager and had more problems with it then i did the network manager that installs with 9.10.
[17:43] <sinbox> you will find the deb file to install after purging the newer one on this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/network-manager-gnome/0.6.6-0ubuntu3
[17:44] <GodzKnightz> on the forums someone had me do " sudo rmmod -f iwlagn " and " sudo modprobe iwlagn swcrypto=1 " and now it wont stay connected to the unsecure connection and times out when i try to install java
[17:44] <sinbox> well, I had massive wireless problems, then realised the wifi part of my modem had died
[17:45] <GodzKnightz> i have no issues in Vista or when i first installed 9.10 (no problems with unsecure networks) just had the problem of wont WPA authenticate with my router.
[17:47] <sinbox> well I'm still on 8.04 so have't tried 9.10. try getting the deb file from the page I gave you, then remove-purge the current network manager and install the deb file you downloaded and see if that helps you
[17:47] <GodzKnightz> also does it matter that im running 64bit for the network manager link you provided?
[17:49] <sinbox> more than likely yes
[17:51] <GodzKnightz> k now i can't download since i did those 2 commands i was asked to do.. how do i reverse them?
[17:55] <sinbox> not sure never used those commands myself, have you tried asking in the main ubuntu channel?  a lot more people there  as I don't think I'll be able to help you here, sorry but I'd rather not give you wrong information
[18:39] <diib> What's the current Image viewer name in xUbuntu?
[18:40] <charlie-tca> Ristretto, I think. It is in both Lucid and Xubuntu 9.10
[18:41] <diib> Ty. And one more question. If there was just a certain package that i wanted to install from a CD, could I do that?
[18:42] <diib> not all of them, just a certain one
[18:43] <charlie-tca> You can, as long you satisfy the dependcies for that package
[18:43] <charlie-tca> In other words, if the package is a stand-alone application
[18:48] <diib> This lead to any question (sorry). nm-applet and NetworkManager come installed on Server Edition right?
[18:50] <charlie-tca> no
[18:50] <diib> Figured.
[18:50] <charlie-tca> nm-applet is a gui, server is text based
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Server does not use a gui environment as it comes. You would have to add one after the installation
[18:52] <diib> I use Wifi. Need a way to access wifi via terminal
[18:52] <diib> I got what I need installed right now. But for in the future so i dont need to move my computer to my router
[18:54] <charlie-tca> Make sure you have a backup?
[18:55] <diib> Of what exactly?
[18:55] <diib> I do a complete fresh reinstall every release
[19:31] <hawkal> anyone know if removing bluetooth drivers would have any effect on wifi?
[19:32] <knome> why would it?
[19:32] <hawkal> integrated chip?
[19:32] <knome> if it's integrated, why would it need bluetooth?
[19:33] <hawkal> functionality maybe
[19:33] <knome> no, i really don't think removing BT drivers would affect your wifi
[19:34] <knome> if it does, you can always reinstall :P
[19:34] <knome> (the BT drivers)
[19:34] <hawkal> no I wouldn't either but I have a bcm4312 wireless card and i've installed b43-fwcutter but it won't work
[19:35] <hawkal> i've got it to work before
[19:37] <hawkal> anyone know how to get a bcm4312 wifi card working on a hp pavilion dv3?
[19:40] <knome> hawkal, have you read this page? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:41] <hawkal> I wasn't aware of that page thank you knome
[19:42] <knome> np
[20:55] <dbdii407> http://packages.xubuntu.com/ -> It works! We know it does. :)