[01:30] <IngForigua> Hi every one
[01:30] <IngForigua> someone knows any program as http://www.softronix.com/logo.html for linux
[03:47] <zapotec> Hello all! I have a question regarding http://edubuntu.org/FAQ: "How is Edubuntu related to Ubuntu?". The section there says that edubuntu is an additional package on top of ubuntu. However, I am currently downloading a 32bit "Edubuntu" DVD. Is this DVD equal to "Ubuntu" + the "edubuntu addon"?
[03:51] <mhall119> zapotec, Edubuntu used to be an add-on, as of 9.10 it started to have it's own DVD image again.
[03:58] <zapotec> Thanks mhall119
[03:59] <mhall119> np
[06:02] <hamish_> can anyone direct me to a site that recommends/lists business applications developed to run on ubuntu?
[14:57] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: Qimo session packages for Lucid are up! https://launchpad.net/~qimo-maintainers/+archive/ppa/+packages
[14:58] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:59] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: great!
[14:59] <highvoltage> hi sbalneav
[14:59] <highvoltage> just a reminder that the DMB meeting is starting soon in #ubuntu-meeting, we're last on the agenda so it will probably take several minutes before we're up
[15:01] <sbalneav> OK, I'll be there
[15:01] <mhall119|work> what's DMB?
[15:01] <sbalneav> There now
[15:01] <mhall119|work> an, nevermind
[15:01] <mhall119|work> developer membership board
[15:09] <sbalneav> Mail sent on next bug day, Feb 23rd
[15:10] <highvoltage> cool.
[15:11] <sbalneav> I'll book the day off at work.
[15:16] <sbalneav> Just watching the baloney that's going on #ubuntu-meeing.
[15:18] <sbalneav> I'm a full GNOME foundation member.  I have git access to all projects, voting on the board, access to a gnome.org mailing address, etc.
[15:18] <sbalneav> Never had to take a test.
[15:18] <highvoltage> if only #ubuntu-meeting came with a fast-forward button :)
[15:18] <sbalneav> Never had to get asked, "So, you have access to Sabayon, please justify to us why you should be allowed access to anything else."
[15:19] <highvoltage> sbalneav: to be perfectly honest, I like them being strict about it. I feel more comfortable knowing that MOTUs are expected to know a few things first before they're allowed to mess with packages going on my system
[15:19] <sbalneav> riiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
[15:19] <sbalneav> t
[15:20] <sbalneav> As opposed to all the people you don't know upstream, right?
[15:20] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I trust the gnome project's judgement as well!
[15:22] <sbalneav> Then why can't we just do like Gnome: one person who HAS motu/coredev access vouches for a new member?  Why the spanish inquisition? :)
[15:22] <sbalneav> eh, whatever, doesn't bother me one way or the other.
[15:25] <highvoltage> imho 5 minutes worth of questions is hardly all that terrible
[15:26] <highvoltage> a motu application is basically some basic details with some endorsements from your sponsors. so it's not so much different from what you're suggesting
[15:27] <highvoltage> but as I've said, I think the process will at least become faster with the archive-reorg
[15:28] <highvoltage> (and with that also a bit less "cold" and impersonal)
[15:31] <stgraber> Guys, we have a working Edubuntu DVD image today !!! (with the Menu editor and everything !!!)
[15:33] <highvoltage> stgraber: AWESOME! I've been eagerly awaiting this image... /me syncs
[15:33] <stgraber> I tested 64bit, I don't know if the 32bit one works too but at least it's there
[15:34] <highvoltage> I'll be using the 32bit disc
[15:35] <alkisg> highvoltage: I guess the developer board meeting is over?
[15:36] <highvoltage> alkisg: still going, they're busy with motu approvals we're last on the agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
[15:36] <alkisg> Ah good :)
[15:38] <stgraber> I have some real doubts we'll make it to this part of the agenda ...
[15:38] <stgraber> I have to leave in 20min for another meeting so I won't be able to do any overtime for that meeting
[15:38] <highvoltage> especially at the current pace :/
[15:38] <stgraber> yeah ...
[15:39] <highvoltage> when would the next DMB meeting be?
[15:40] <stgraber> in two weeks (I think)
[15:41] <stgraber> next candidate should be a lot faster though (I hope)
[15:59] <stgraber> highvoltage: doh ... /me wonders why he didn't see that on some wiki page ...
[16:01] <highvoltage> stgraber: I'm quite sure I did, looking for it now. altough the TeamDelegation page does clearly say TB
[16:01] <stgraber> highvoltage: next TB meeting is next week. Can you add it there and book me in Zimbra so I'm sure to attend ?
[16:03] <highvoltage> stgraber: will do
[16:03] <stgraber> alkisg: ping
[16:03] <alkisg> stgraber: pong
[16:03] <stgraber> alkisg: can you join nbd-proxy ?
[16:04] <highvoltage> stgraber: it's during the edubuntu bug day so it shouldn't be to hard to attend
[16:05] <stgraber> highvoltage: indeed
[16:05] <stgraber> alkisg: I should really teach these guys a bit more IRC :) they didn't notice you were on IRC but not in the channel ... ;)
[16:05] <alkisg> Heh :)
[16:09] <alkisg> stgraber: my tftpd not starting bug - if I just add a 10 seconds delay it works, so it must be a race: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tftp-hpa/+bug/522509
[16:12] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: I uploaded my packages to REVU
[16:15] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: oops, I never made an LP bug to package Qimo
[16:15] <mhall119|work> can I make the bug against the Qimo project in LP, or should it be against something else?
[16:16] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: yes you'll have to mark each bug in your package changelog as well
[16:16] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: yes that will be fine
[16:29] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: so I will need to make new packages?
[16:30] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: you can just add it and rebuild, no need even to change the version number
[16:30] <mhall119|work> won't revu reject it if I send a modified package with the same version number?
[16:30] <mhall119|work> my ppa does that
[16:39] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: what is a "needs-packaging" but?  Is that a tag on any bug report?
[16:40] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: yes
[16:41] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: it's described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages if you'd like a more complete explanation
[16:41] <mhall119|work> thanks
[16:41] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: revu doesn't care about the version number since revu doesn't build and release the package anywhere
[16:42] <mhall119|work> do I need to make 3 bug reports because i have 3 package?
[16:42] <mhall119|work> or just one bug report for all three?
[16:45] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: I believe you should do 3.
[16:45] <mhall119|work> I have qimo-session, which depends on qimo-wallpaper and qimo-games
[16:45] <mhall119|work> I couldn't just make one for qimo-session?
[16:50] <sbalneav> highvoltage: Saw the new "tree" background yesterday.  Looks nice!
[16:58] <highvoltage> sbalneav: did you get it via the updated artwork package?
[17:02] <mhall119|work> highvoltage:what's this warning about not having a debian/watch file?
[17:02] <mhall119|work> what is it, and what should I do with it?
[17:06] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: you're supposed to have a watch file, it checks whether there's new releases of the upstream tarball
[17:07] <highvoltage> here's the contents of a watch file for the package enna, for example:
[17:07] <highvoltage> http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/02/16/1416220/Meteorite-Contains-Complex-Organic-Molecules
[17:07] <highvoltage> oops, not that paste
[17:07] <highvoltage> version=3
[17:07] <highvoltage> http://enna.geexbox.org/releases/enna-(.*)\.tar\.bz2
[17:10] <mhall119|work> okay, so it checks a URL pattern for new upstream versions?
[17:10] <mhall119|work> but I don't have upstream packages for Qimo
[17:10] <sbalneav> highvoltage: yeah
[17:11] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: hmm, I'm not sure what the exact right thing would be to do in that case. can you ask on #ubuntu-motu perhaps?
[17:11] <highvoltage> (I'll listen there as wwell since I'd like to know as well)
[17:12] <highvoltage> sbalneav: cool! I hoped that it would make todays image but seems like it didn't
[17:32] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: are you getting all of that?
[17:33] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: yep
[17:34] <mhall119|work> making sense to you?
[17:34] <mhall119|work> cause I'm feeling a bit lost
[17:35] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: ok, no problem
[17:35] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: basically, this is going to be a native package. so you don't need a watch file and the version numbers shouldn't contain an ubuntu suffix in the version number
[17:36] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: best is probably to upload what you got then we look at that
[17:36] <mhall119|work> it's on revu
[17:38] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/mhall119
[17:39] <mhall119|work> is there a way to remove older versions from revu?
[17:39]  * mhall119|work feels like he's left a mess
[17:40] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: don't :)
[17:40] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: it seems a bit daunting in the beginning, it will get better I promise
[17:42] <mhall119|work> ok
[17:42] <mhall119|work> well, they're up there, the best I can do I think
[17:44] <mhall119|work> whoops, accidentally hit "archive" on one of my packages
[17:45] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: would you like me to comment here or on the revu page? I guess it's probably best to comment there
[17:46] <mhall119|work> yeah, for documentation sake
[17:55] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: your copyright file mentions CC-BY-SA and GPL and GPLv2, and there's a copy of the GPLv3 in the COPYING file you added
[17:56] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: I suppose that COPYING file isn't meant to be there?
[18:03] <mhall119|work> woops
[18:04] <mhall119|work> it was giving me a warning for not having a copy of the GPL
[18:07] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: include it in the copyright file, along with the CC-BY-SA license. looking at the edubuntu-artwork package that seems to be the right way to do it
[18:07] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: once we have that we can ping stephane who can review it again, I think it will be fine then and we can upload
[18:09] <mhall119|work> I saw somewhere that the path to the GPL-2 was wrong, I'm gonna see if that fixes the warning
[18:10] <mhall119|work> nope, didn't fix it
[18:16] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: changed COPYING to be GPLv2
[18:17] <mhall119|work> stgraber: could you mind reviewing my qimo packages? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/mhall119
[18:18] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: I used the same copyright file for all 3 packages, is that an issue with qimo-wallpaper?
[18:19] <mhall119|work> I condenced all the licensed to be GPLv2
[18:19] <mhall119|work> in copyright and COPYING
[18:19] <mhall119|work> so it's GPLv2 and CC-BY-SA
[18:21] <mhall119|work> stephane is out now, isn't he
[18:21] <highvoltage> I believe he's in a meeting
[18:22] <highvoltage> checking qimo-session now and then -games
[18:22] <mhall119|work> cool, thanks
[19:38] <Lns> Anyone have an opinion of installing Lucid on a production LTSP server, but with the administrator being ...me? :) I use my LTSP server every day for business operations, I'm not scared of running into a bug here or there, but kinda need to have at least basic functionality not breaking. Any experiences to help me decide to do this or not?
[19:39] <ogra> dont
[19:39] <Lns> ogra: ok =) I trust you!
[19:39] <highvoltage> Lns: I'm with ogra. as far as I can tell things are quite good at the moment, but you could potentially run into a *big* problem with any update
[19:39] <ogra> test server == fine ... production == dont :)
[19:40] <Lns> haha! ok.. well i do have a 1U test server sitting around. I think I need to put it on there at least.
[19:40] <Lns> I want to help report bugs as much as possible
[19:40] <ogra> ++
[19:40] <ogra> :)
[19:41] <highvoltage> for testing I think it's even ok if you run an LTSP server in a virtual machine. probably not ideal when you want to do performance testing though
[19:41] <Lns> what sucks is that it doesn't have vt extensions :( only one OS at a time, boo
[19:41] <highvoltage> oddly enough I haven't noticed much difference on my machines with VT extentions and those that don't
[19:41] <Lns> highvoltage: i hear ya..
[19:41] <Lns> highvoltage: well I can't install libvirt/friends without it unfortunately
[19:42] <Lns> at least in debian, which i really wanted as my host
[19:42] <highvoltage> Lns: stgraber is working on LXC for lucid, that allows you to create an ubuntu container within ubuntu that will give you very good performance
[19:42] <Lns> highvoltage: w/o vt?
[19:43] <highvoltage> Lns: yep. it gives you better performance than a virtualized machine with VT, since it's not virtualized
[19:43] <Lns> !!
[19:44] <highvoltage> Lns: it's almost like having chroots but each with their own /proc, etc
[19:44] <Lns> highvoltage: sounds like bsd jails
[19:44] <highvoltage> Lns: it's pretty much the same
[19:44] <Lns> nice!
[19:44] <Lns> i've heard very good things about bsd jails
[19:44] <highvoltage> Lns: I have some nice machines that don't have vt extensions so I'm looking forward to using that in lucid too
[19:45] <Lns> that is awesome. Yeah this is a 2x dualcore xeon 3ghz server. would be nice to take advantage of multiple running OSes
[19:46] <Lns> stgraber should backport LXC to hardy. *ducks*
[19:46] <Lns> ;)
[19:47] <highvoltage> Lns: nice thing about lxc is that it's in the upstream kernel, so you don't have to compile kernel modules or do anything weird in order to use it. just install the lxc userspace modules and go with it.
[19:50] <alkisg> highvoltage: any HOW TOs available for LXC?
[19:50] <Lns> highvoltage: so they're compiling it directly into the kernel eh?
[19:50]  * Lns waves to alkisg 
[19:51] <stgraber> Lns: you need at least 2.6.28 to have it working ;)
[19:51] <alkisg> Hey Lns (I'd use Lucid on my school, but I'd never update until the final is out :P )
[19:51] <Lns> stgraber: darn, i'm still at 2.6.24-27 ;)
[19:52] <highvoltage> alkisg, Lns: stgraber blogged about it here: http://www.stgraber.org/2009/11/06/lxc-containers-or-extremely-fast-virtualization
[19:52] <highvoltage> unfortunately Lucid hosts doesn't work under lucid yet
[19:52] <highvoltage> but it is being worked on
[19:52] <Lns> =p
[19:52] <alkisg> Ouch
[19:52] <alkisg> No sugar then
[19:53]  * Lns bookmarks stgraber's site
[19:53] <highvoltage> should only use it for production when lucid is released, of course :)
[19:55] <Lns> So no Lucid alternate cd yet?
[19:56] <highvoltage> for Edubuntu? there won't be.
[19:56] <Lns> Oh sorry meant ubu
[19:57] <highvoltage> Lns: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20100216/
[20:02] <Lns> highvoltage: yeah downloading that right now :)
[20:02] <Lns> never heard of zsync before, awesome!
[20:09] <mhall119|work> any advice on who at Canonical I can talk to about getting HTTP hosting for the Qimo ISO?
[20:09] <mhall119|work> I keep losing USA mirror hosts
[20:13] <sbalneav> mhall119|work: Hmmmm, good one.
[20:14] <sbalneav> qimo's based on ubuntu, IIRC?
[20:14] <mhall119|work> I was going to try plying dinda with alcohol this weekend, but if that falls through...
[20:14] <mhall119|work> yes, Xubuntu specifically
[20:14] <dinda> mhall119|work: heh - I'll hold you to that!  ;)
[20:14] <mhall119|work> if it'll get me hosting, I'll do it
[20:14] <dinda> mhall119|work: was just trying to think of who you might ping on the hosting
[20:15] <dinda> mhall119|work: it's too big for a PPA, i assume?
[20:15] <mhall119|work> I have the packages in the PPA
[20:15] <mhall119|work> I need to host an ISO
[20:17] <highvoltage> not sure where they'd host that, they don't currently host any isos that aren't built internally
[20:18] <dinda> mhall119|work: gotta let you know, it will be a tough sell at the moment, our IS team is pretty overworked and there's no one minding the education/edubuntu shop at the moment
[20:18] <mhall119|work> I'm just causing the IS team all kinds of work
[20:18] <mhall119|work> what with loco-directory and all
[20:18] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: well, let them work for their money ;)
[20:18] <dinda> mhall119|work: yeah, canonical only hosts its own iso s
[20:18] <mhall119|work> they host Edubuntu ISO's don't they?
[20:19] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: edubuntu isos are built by canonical build serveers
[20:19] <mhall119|work> or is that still officially theirs
[20:19] <mhall119|work> even though it's not funded
[20:19] <dinda> mhall119|work: yes but i think that is a legacy deal
[20:19] <mhall119|work> heck, I'd be happy to use their build servers too ;)
[20:19] <dinda> until Canonical figures out what to do with the whole edubuntu project
[20:20] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: it's not officially funded, but Canonical still provides us with all of the Edubuntu infrastucture
[20:20] <highvoltage> (same as they do with Xubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Kubuntu, etc)
[20:20] <highvoltage> I can't see any reason why they would stop doing so, it's basically in their best interest
[20:21] <dinda> highvoltage: it is :)
[20:23] <mhall119|work> okay, who in the Canonical hierarchy has small children that would love Qimo?
[20:23] <highvoltage> nixternal: hey there, are you around?
[20:23] <dinda> mhall119|work: you're a good salesman :)
[20:24] <mhall119|work> I'm a good talking salesman, so far I haven't actually sold it
[20:24] <dinda> mhall119|work: I'm very much looking forward to a demo this weekend
[20:24] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: I could host some images for you in germany
[20:24] <mhall119|work> dinda: I'm getting it ready as we speak, and highvoltage has been helping me get the packages ready
[20:24] <dinda> mhall119|work: will you have a booth or demo area?
[20:24] <mhall119|work> booth
[20:24] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: most of europe and africa should have a speedy connection to there, it's in hetzner's datacenter
[20:24] <mhall119|work> we were between Debian and O'Reilly last year
[20:24] <mhall119|work> hope for an equally good spot this year
[20:24] <ubuntu-newbie> Can someone point me in the right direction?  Trying to get a Classmate 3 (M&A Companion Touch) running UNR 9.10, to get the touch screen to work.  WOrks in WIn XP home and will "click" but can't get pointer to track.
[20:25] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: we've got some european mirros
[20:25] <mhall119|work> it's my USA mirrors that keep getting overburdened and taken down
[20:25] <ubuntu-newbie> Tried Qimo and found the "dock" thing in the bottom got in the way.
[20:25] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: don't the universities there all have big mirrors with admins who will happily host it?
[20:26] <highvoltage> ubuntu-newbie: hang around a bit, ogra might be able to tell you
[20:26] <mhall119|work> ubuntu-newbie: it's not so much a dock as it is a launcher, and the games should all go fullscreen
[20:26] <dinda> mhall119|work: that's what I was just thinking - maybe some Uni with a big education program
[20:26] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: I don't know, I haven't tried the universities yet
[20:26] <dinda> mhall119|work: I know Univ. of Texas and some others are mirror sites
[20:26] <highvoltage> in my country pretty much all the universities mirror everything
[20:27] <mhall119|work> yeah, there's a bunch that mirror other OSS apps
[20:27] <highvoltage> uhm, I mean, mirrors pretty much everything
[20:27] <mhall119|work> I'm just not sure how to get on the list
[20:27] <dinda> yeah, ack, that University in Oregon that hosts everything FOSS
[20:27] <dinda> just read an article on them
[20:27] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: usually they have some form of a mirror index with the administrators e-mail address on there
[20:27]  * dinda goes to find the article bookmark
[20:29] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: just did a quick google and it seems like you could try harvard at least: https://wiki.med.harvard.edu/Software/Mirrors
[20:29] <mhall119|work> I should try my own university first I suppose
[20:30] <mhall119|work> ah ha!  found a contact, thanks for the advice
[20:30] <nixternal> highvoltage: yes
[20:31] <dinda> found it
[20:31] <dinda> http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1378294,00.html
[20:31] <highvoltage> nixternal: do you perhaps have a few moments to review some packages? they're not big ones at least
[20:31] <nixternal> highvoltage: sure, I can review some
[20:31] <highvoltage> nixternal: it's the 3 ones on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/mhall119
[20:32] <highvoltage> nixternal: if we can get it in before Thursday then we can ship a Qimo desktop as option with Edubuntu, which would be quite cool
[20:41] <sbalneav> highvoltage++
[20:42] <sbalneav> That would be awesome.  Would also solve mhall119|work's hosting issues.
[20:42] <mhall119|work> not really
[20:42] <mhall119|work> I'd still need to host the ISO
[20:51] <nixternal> highvoltage: reviewed...need a bit of work yet... mhall119|work fyi, 80 chars wide or less for all files under debian/ directory
[20:52] <mhall119|work> nixternal: I was afraid of that, creative commons didn't supply a nice plain text version of the license text
[20:52] <nixternal> copyright files are a pita honestly since archive admins are typically pretty anal over them, so you need to lists the files that fall under each license
[20:52] <highvoltage> nixternal: thanks!
[20:52] <mhall119|work> nixternal: how should I do that?
[20:52] <nixternal> mhall119|work: there is a plain text version, it is just hard as hell to find...I found it once
[20:52] <mhall119|work> just CC_BY_SA:
[20:52] <mhall119|work> file 1
[20:52] <mhall119|work> file 2
[20:52] <mhall119|work> GPLv2:
[20:52] <mhall119|work> file 3
[20:52] <mhall119|work> file 4
[20:53] <nixternal> let me do something really quick and pastebin it for you
[20:55] <nixternal> ok, mhall119|work for instance...qimo-wallpaper package, COPYING file is GPLv2, but none of the png files are GPL, just CC-by-SA
[20:55] <nixternal> actually, I don't think qimo-wallpaper package will fly, as there is no source files for the png files
[20:56] <mhall119|work> huh what?
[20:56] <mhall119|work> source for the png?
[20:56] <nixternal> copyright file should state where I can download the source
[20:56] <mhall119|work> of an image?
[20:57] <nixternal> well, I don't think those png files were created with gimp, I am fairly certain they were created with inkscape, in which there should be an svg file somewhere
[20:57] <nixternal> or, if they were created with gimp, I think the gimp source file is a .xcf file, a file that has all of the layers of the image
[20:58] <mhall119|work> I'm pretty sure they were created in Photoshop
[20:58] <nixternal> then there should be a .psd file
[20:58] <mhall119|work> I didn't make them
[20:58] <nixternal> or .psd files
[20:58] <mhall119|work> why is that required?
[20:59] <nixternal> open source :)
[20:59] <nixternal> you need the source, as the .png files are a graphics binary equivalent
[20:59] <mhall119|work> but the images are cc-by-sa, that's not required for that
[20:59] <nixternal> ahh, the upstream tarball doesn't contain them either
[20:59] <highvoltage> nixternal: are you 100% sure that the image sources need to be included? I don't believe we've done that for the edubuntu-artwork ever
[21:00] <nixternal> ahh, yeah, that silly GPL COPYING file is throwing me off
[21:00] <nixternal> mhall119|work: thanks for reminding me they are cc
[21:00] <mhall119|work> I will make individualized copyright files for each package to avoid this confusion
[21:00] <highvoltage> mhall119|work: I'm quite sure it all needs to go into the debian/copyright file
[21:01] <nixternal> heh, since you can manipulate that you upstream silly you :D
[21:01] <mhall119|work> should I inline the GPLv2 text into debian/copyright, or is it okay to leave in COPYING?
[21:02] <nixternal> in the debian/copyright file, if you have a COPYING file in the tarball that has the full CC-by-SA text, then all you need in the copyright file is the CC Deed part
[21:02] <nixternal> why is there is GPLv2 in the first place?
[21:02] <nixternal> the images in qimo-wallpaper are cc-by-sa right?
[21:02] <nixternal> there is no gplv2 code that I can see anywhere
[21:03] <mhall119|work> nixternal: yes
[21:03] <mhall119|work> not in the -wallpaper package
[21:04] <mhall119|work> I just used the same debian/copyright for all 3 packages
[21:04]  * mhall119|work was being lazy
[21:13] <Lns> ....holy crap. My new install of lucid (ubuntu) just booted up in like 5 seconds.
[21:13] <Lns> faster than standby!
[21:13] <mhall119|work> hold crap the cc-by-sa is long
[21:21] <highvoltage> Lns: heh, it is quite nice isn't it? :)
[21:22] <Lns> anyone know about the status of sun java for 10.04? It's not in the latest build, I see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406969&page=2 that points to repo politics...anyone know if it's going to (try to) be in 10.04 final?
[21:22] <Lns> highvoltage: crazy fast!!
[21:25] <mhall119|work> crap, I've got to go home
[21:26] <mhall119|work> highvoltage: nixternal: I'll finish the copyright changes this evening (eastern time)
[21:26] <mhall119|work> Lns: I heard it's being removed from Debian, so Ubuntu has been trying to phase it out as well
[21:26] <nixternal> and I will be watching the olympics this evening (chicago time) :p
[21:26] <mhall119|work> NBC doesn't even start coverate until 8pm here
[21:27] <nixternal> you need AT&T U-Verse
[21:28] <nixternal> we have the Olympic's Channel
[21:28] <nixternal> with multi-view which is really nice
[21:28] <nixternal> I was watching curling earlier
[21:29] <highvoltage> multi-view, that sounds nice
[21:30] <highvoltage> so is that like, picture in picture or do you cycle through angles?
[21:30] <mhall119|work> yeah, I have Verizon FiOS
[21:30] <mhall119|work> sucks
[21:38] <nixternal> highvoltage: there is a main screen, then down the right side of the screen are the other channels displaying different olympic events, then there are selections for news, medals, and such along the bottom...there is some interactive stuff as well such as online games too which is pretty neat
[23:22] <Ahmuck-Sr> sbalneav: www.dropbox.com :)