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asacfta: maybe retry the inrepid build?10:16
fta2asac, it failed on all ppas for {intrepid,jaunty}+amd6410:55
sindhudweepasac: you there?12:28
asacyes12:29
sindhudweepcan you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sindhudweep-sarkar/gnash/gnash0.8.7packaging12:30
BUGabundoHappy Carnaval o/12:34
asachave fun ;)12:35
asacsindhudweep: i might not get to it today. have to rush some stuff for a312:35
sindhudweepperfectly understandable12:35
sindhudweepshould i try to grab you in a week or so?12:35
BUGabundothanks asac12:37
BUGabundoyou too12:37
asacsindhudweep: i would assume tomorrow - latest wednesday the doors are closed for a312:38
asacso then i am avail ;)12:39
asacjust poke me12:39
sindhudweepgreat. I'll try to poke you then :D12:39
asacwelcome!12:39
sindhudweepthanks, bye!12:39
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asac!test13:14
ubottuhrm?13:14
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fta2asac, upstream said they will fix ch to be usable with system libs14:15
asacnice14:17
asacfta2: will they include it in their test/QA somehow?14:17
asacotherwise it feels like a huge risk if we closely want to follow their releases14:17
asacor will they define a reference platform (like hardy or lucid) where they test on?14:17
fta2not sure. they had a dedicated builder for that at some point, but noone cared enough to keep it updated14:26
fta2as fedora is willing to stick to as many system libs at all costs, it puts some pressure on upstream14:27
BUGabundofta [  819.688012] chromium-browse[6138] general protection ip:171edfb sp:7fff3f556a10 error:0 in chromium-browser[400000+22b7000]14:34
BUGabundo[ 1489.795093] chromium-browse[6291] general protection ip:171edf7 sp:7fff3f556a10 error:0 in chromium-browser (deleted)[400000+22b7000]14:34
asacfta2: so did fedora already find a fix for xslt issue? or dont they have it?14:38
fta2asac, i don't know, but their patches are public14:39
fta2BUGabundo, not very helpful, you should file a bug14:40
BUGabundofta im still getting snaps14:40
BUGabundonow at identica14:40
BUGabundoI though you fixed it yesterday14:41
fta2BUGabundo, which version are you using?14:42
BUGabundo5.0.329.0 (39037) Ubuntu14:42
asacBUGabundo: package version i guess14:44
BUGabundo  Installed: 5.0.330.0~svn20100216r39077-0ubuntu2~ucd114:44
fta2BUGabundo, should work, it's probably another issue then15:08
BUGabundook15:08
BUGabundoanything on my side I can do to debug ?15:08
micahgasac: around?15:45
asacmicahg: yes15:49
asacpreparing a call in 1015:49
micahgasac: k, is there anything else needed for TB3?15:49
asacmicahg: what i had looked good15:55
asacwill upload it i think15:56
BUGabundoasac: [reed]: anything about this http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly#comment-4124716:00
jdstrandasac: hey, do you have any idea what testing was performed on ff3 and ff35 in the mozilla security ppa?18:34
jdstrandmicahg: 12:34 < jdstrand> asac: hey, do you have any idea what testing was performed on  ff3 and ff35 in the mozilla security ppa?18:36
jdstrandmicahg: hi btw18:36
micahghi jdstrand18:37
micahgjdstrand: no, sorry18:37
micahgasac: any idea for testing of ff3.0/3.5 updates/18:37
asacjdstrand: no testing on my side ... normal community testing for 1.5 days (no complains)18:45
asace.g. lacks extensive tests by you and me18:45
micahgasac: I think I have the PPA apport issue fixed18:54
micahgasac: can I pastebin the bzr diff for you before I push?18:55
asacmicahg: yes18:57
micahgasac: http://pastebin.com/fdd3ca2618:58
DunkirkHow do I add the PPA, but pin it so that I have to specify which packages I want? (I just want thunderbird-3.0, the "stock" firefox is just fine, and I don't want to upgrade it.)19:12
micahgDunkirk: we'll probably be making a thunderbird-stable PPA soon if you want to wait19:16
micahgDunkirk: or I can give you the pin configuration for the daily ppa19:16
Dunkirkmicahg, I would like both, actually. ;-)19:17
Dunkirkmicahg, For the record, I really want to understand pinning in general, so seeing your example would be brilliant.19:17
micahghttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/377828/ could go in /etc/apt/preferences.d/umd19:17
micahgDunkirk: here's a tutorial on pinning: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html19:18
micahgDunkirk: I actually pin all PPAs at 450 and override when necessary19:19
Dunkirkmicahg, That's swell! How would I know to use "o=<stuff>" and what "stuff" would be?19:19
micahgDunkirk: take a look at 'apt-cache policy'19:19
Dunkirkmicahg, Ok, begging another, why do you do 450, but tell me 475?19:19
micahgDunkirk: it's all relative19:19
micahgI use 450 so I can override in between19:19
micahg500 is default19:19
Dunkirk<Neo>Woah.</Neo>19:20
Dunkirkmicahg, WAAAAY cool. Thanks for that. That's been a mystery for about 10 years now. (I've wandered through Suse and Gentoo lands for a long time since looking at Debian.)19:21
Dunkirkmicahg, Hrm. I don't mean to be a pest, but after putting that file into place, and reloading the configuration, synaptic still wants to pull in the newer firefox.19:26
micahgDunkirk: sudo apt-get update?19:29
DunkirkYeah. apt-get upgrade isn't showing anything, but if I "mark all changes" in synaptic, it gets picked up. I see that `aptitude' also picks it up. I guess synaptic runs aptitude?19:31
micahgDunkirk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto19:32
Dunkirkhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/377841/19:33
micahghmm19:34
micahgDunkirk: aptitude shouldn't upgrade that19:34
DunkirkGuess I'm going to have to "lock version" in synaptic.19:34
micahgDunkirk: check in #ubuntu about that...I don't know why synaptic would do that19:35
micahgDunkirk: you don't want to lock version as we still provide updates for 3.5 in karmic19:35
micahg(one should be coming this week)19:35
DunkirkHrm... OK. I'll check later. Roger on the updates. I hadn't thought of that.19:36
DunkirkI'll keep an eye out for that Thunderbird-only PPA. ;-)19:36
Dunkirkmicahg, Thanks again.19:36
micahgDunkirk: np19:36
micahgasac: would it be bad for me to retweet your dent to the ubuntu group?20:04
ftahttp://www.ted.com/talks/blaise_aguera.html20:05
asacmicahg: no why not20:10
asaci think its just bad to retweet without removing groups currently used in the dent20:10
micahgasac: idk, I'm new to denting :)20:10
micahgasac: I saw no groups20:10
asacmicahg: yes, i forgot20:11
asacmicahg: ask BUGabundo about etiquette20:11
micahgasac: np, I rt'd it :)20:11
asac;)20:11
BUGabundo?20:11
micahgasac: how was my diff?20:11
BUGabundoYOU RD TO GROUPS!?!?!?!?!?20:12
BUGabundoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO20:12
BUGabundoNEVER EVER do that20:12
BUGabundoyou get killed, and hundreds replies from users20:12
asacmicahg: you chatted too much ;)20:12
asacBUGabundo: initial dent didnt have any group20:12
BUGabundoahh20:12
asacso rd with group is ok imo20:12
BUGabundothen its safe20:12
asacif you think its worth forwarding to a group20:13
asacthat didnt get it yet20:13
BUGabundosome ppl will still complain20:13
BUGabundobut you can shut off those20:13
asacyeah, because they miss that fact i just metnioned ;)20:13
ftajcastro, will we have that in lucid? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk4MQ20:13
BUGabundomicahg: and its ReDent20:13
BUGabundonot retweet20:13
jcastrofta, unsure, tseliot is the guy to ask though20:13
micahg asac: http://pastebin.com/fdd3ca26 <--ff bzr commits20:13
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asacmicahg: how about abrowser-branding etc.?20:14
asacfor packages?20:14
asacor does it fail if a package isnt installed?20:14
micahgasac: shouldn't fail20:15
micahgI could add whatever I think20:15
micahgidk20:15
asacmicahg: add email on first commit20:15
asacmicahg: please leave ffox 3.6 open20:15
asaci have to add a patch tomorrow before the upload20:15
asacotherwise it looks good20:15
ftajcastro, you're well informed & well connected :) it's usually easier to ask you rather than remembering lots of nicknames and their respective specialties :P20:15
micahgasac: ok, I'll redo the commits tonight20:15
jcastroyeah sorry, I don't follow nouveau closely at all.20:16
micahgasac: do you want abrowser in there?20:16
micahgasac: also, can you do the ubufox merge I proposed?20:16
asacabrowser abrowser-branding20:16
asacubufox20:16
asacmicahg: what did that do?20:16
micahgasac: changed the apport reporting package to firefox instead of firefox-$version20:17
micahgfor everything except 3.0 and 3.520:17
micahgasac: why do we have a firefox-dev package?20:18
* micahg thought we weren't going to allow building against ff20:18
asacjust because i wasnt sure20:30
asacisnt -dev empty?20:30
asaci think we should empty it20:30
* micahg doesn't remember20:30
micahgit's empty I think20:31
micahgyeah, should we change the descritpion then?20:31
kklimondahey - could someone take a look at bug 482890? I can't get neither squeeze version or current lucid one to work with seamonkey20:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 482890 in mozilla-noscript "Please merge mozilla-noscript 1.9.9.27-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48289020:32
micahgasac: http://pastebin.com/md854544 seems inappropriate20:32
micahgkklimonda: are you using SM1 or SM2?20:33
asacyeah20:33
kklimondamicahg: SM1 from lucid repository20:33
asacmicahg: anyway. lets start on the transition ppa20:33
asacisn anything missing for xul 1.9.2 ?20:33
micahgasac: yeah, 1 thing, I was going to merge tonight on my way home and start pushing20:34
asacmerge?20:34
asacrebase?20:34
micahgasac: merge20:34
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kklimondamicahg: if I install debian package I get errors about noscript not installed correctly. The Ubuntu package installs fine and there is no error but also I see no indication that noscript is actually running20:34
asacoh the dh_xullrunner thing? i thought it already happened20:34
micahgasac: that was for xul19120:35
asacmicahg: did you already add the unversioned -dev package?20:35
micahgasac: yeah20:35
asacmicahg: good. what merge is it thne?20:35
micahgasac: one of the non ppa arches I think20:35
asac?20:35
asacthe sparce thing?20:35
asacok20:35
micahgbug 42763820:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 427638 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "xulrunner includes no longer have nspr headers; explicit link against nspr is required." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42763820:35
asacwe have that patch in 191 i think20:35
micahgnope, nspr :)20:36
asacok20:36
asacdouble check that the patch does the same we did last package20:36
asacthen its good20:36
micahgk, then I'll push tonight before bed that and everything in main on the xulrunner list20:36
micahgkklimonda: if no one else looks at it, I can look later, sometimes we modify the install.rdf on extensions to only work with a certain version of the package20:38
micahgkklimonda: what TZ are you in?20:39
kklimondamicahg: UTC+1 but actually I see that it not depends on seamonkey-browser (>= 2.0) which is weird - I remember checking it two weeks ago and it wasn't there.. /me is confused..20:41
kklimondait now*20:42
micahgkklimonda: yeah, that's probably why20:42
micahgSM1 will be EOL soon20:42
micahgkklimonda: we hope to replace it for Lucid...20:42
micahgs/we/me :)20:42
kklimondamicahg: great - I'll change it to sync request then20:43
micahgkklimonda: yep, there are still a few pieces missing but hopefully by beta 1 all the pieces will be in20:43
kklimondamicahg: can you sync it or should ask on -motu? :)20:54
micahgkklimonda: I can't yet...maybe soon :)20:55
kklimondaach :)20:55
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micahghi gnomefreak21:41
gnomefreakhi micahg21:41
micahggnomefreak: we didn't have the meeting as asac and I were the only ones tehre :)21:41
gnomefreakmicahg: sorry about that21:41
micahggnomefreak: np, we should reschedule in a few weeks21:42
gnomefreakif someone comes up with a date and agenda i can pretty much work it out. i only have a handful of appointments in the next month i think21:44
gnomefreakoh shit 3.0 is not helping.21:44
micahggnomefreak: ?21:45
gnomefreakmicahg: i think it was the server. i fixed it21:45
gnomefreaki got the error again damnit.21:48
gnomefreakSending of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and password not accepted.21:48
gnomefreakit would be nice if it told  you what account21:49
micahggnomefreak: why not use imap?21:49
micahggnomefreak: check activity manager21:50
gnomefreakimap+tb has too many bugs. at least did21:50
micahggnomefreak: I've been using it since 2.0.x without issue21:50
micahg*issues21:50
gnomefreakok let me see if i can change it and get it working21:50
gnomefreakok ill give it a little time before i open it again21:53
micahgasac: looks like we can jump from 3.0 to 3.0.2 for TB :)21:54
BUGabundowhen did chromium entered the archive?21:54
BUGabundoand why are we pushing a BETA version instead of the stable ?21:54
micahgBUGabundo: last month21:55
BUGabundoho did I miss that?21:55
* gnomefreak be back in a few21:56
micahgBUGabundo: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/4.0.305.0~svn20100123r36929-0ubuntu121:56
BUGabundo    5.0.307.7~r38400+0-0ubuntu1 021:57
BUGabundo        500 http://neacm.fe.up.pt lucid/universe Packages21:57
BUGabundo        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Packages21:57
micahgBUGabundo: that was the initial entry into archive :)21:57
BUGabundoah21:58
gnomefreakdo we have profile patch for tb or is it in debian/*profile?22:01
gnomefreakto use thunderbird dir.22:01
gnomefreaksorry mozillathunderbird dir22:02
gnomefreak-22:02
* gnomefreak hopes it upgrades with little issues22:02
gnomefreakimap didnt help it seems22:03
micahggnomefreak: daily?22:04
gnomefreakyes22:04
micahgthunderbird-3-profile in debian/patches22:04
micahggnomefreak: I think google requires SSL?22:04
gnomefreakim using SSL but rechecking22:04
gnomefreakmicahg: server 995 ok?22:05
micahggnomefreak: that's POP secure22:05
micahgiirc22:05
gnomefreakwhat server should i use and should i use secure auth.?22:06
* micahg checks his settings22:06
* gnomefreak doesnt remember :(22:06
micahgimap.gmail.com 993 ssl/tls22:06
gnomefreakok lets try22:07
* gnomefreak tries22:07
gnomefreakhmmmmm22:08
micahggnomefreak: username w/out domain if it's gmail22:09
gnomefreakmicahg: in the server settings or the main settings22:11
micahggnomefreak: server I think22:12
* gnomefreak thought server settings was only place to use that22:12
gnomefreakmicahg: i have been using it without @*22:12
micahgit still fails?22:12
gnomefreaki think i found the problem now i have to find it22:12
gnomefreakunder server settings the server type says pop but i cant find the setting for that22:13
gnomefreakserver name is imap.*22:14
gnomefreaki would love not to have to start over22:15
micahggnomefreak: oh, hmmm, idk if you can convert yet22:16
micahggnomefreak: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1327322:16
micahgso, it should be 995 for pop3s22:17
gnomefreak993 for imap22:20
micahggnomefreak: I don't think you can convert from pop to imap in the interface22:21
gnomefreaki had the settings set as imap in gmail22:21
micahgthat's the problem22:21
micahgso you need to make a new account22:21
micahgin TB22:21
gnomefreaki guess i have to :( now to remember the accounts i have22:21
micahg_Tsk_: there's no way to convert from pop to imap, right?22:22
_Tsk_convert what ?22:22
_Tsk_when creating an account or created accounts ?22:22
micahg_Tsk_: created22:23
gnomefreakcreated22:23
_Tsk_no :-(22:23
_Tsk_not that I know of22:23
micahgshould be an enh request if it's not already :)22:23
* gnomefreak has to reset filters too?22:25
micahgmozilla 12905522:25
ubottuMozilla bug 129055 in MailNews: Account Configuration "[RFE] Allow change of server type (IMAP to POP)" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12905522:25
gnomefreakany way to carry filters over?22:27
micahggnomefreak: there should be an extension to export filters and reimport22:30
gnomefreakyou would think rm -rf thunderbird-3.0 would work22:37
gnomefreakbe back smoke+think22:37
micahggnomefreak: for what?22:38
gnomefreakmicahg: to remove all settings so i can re-enter accounts22:38
micahggnomefreak: mv ~/.thunderbird-3.0 ~/.thunderbird-3.0.bak22:38
* gnomefreak tries again22:42
gnomefreaknope22:43
micahggnomefreak: ls -ld ~/.*thunderbird*22:44
micahggnomefreak: if you have a TB2 profile, it'll keep importing it as well, so after you do the mv, just touch ~/.thunderbird-3.022:46
micahgoops22:46
micahggnomefreak: that should be mkdir ~/.thunderbird-3.022:46
micahgshould create a new identity on next launch then22:46
ftaBUGabundo, fta@cube:/data/bot/chromium-browser.head $ grep ^c debian/changelog22:46
ftachromium-browser (5.0.307.7~r38400+0-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low22:46
ftachromium-browser (5.0.307.7~r38400-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low22:46
ftachromium-browser (5.0.307.5~r37950+0-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low22:46
ftachromium-browser (5.0.307.5~r37950-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low22:46
ftachromium-browser (4.0.305.0~svn20100123r36929-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low22:46
BUGabundoso another fix?22:48
ftaBUGabundo, what for?22:50
BUGabundoI don't know22:50
BUGabundoyou ping me22:50
fta<BUGabundo> when did chromium entered the archive?22:50
fta<BUGabundo> and why are we pushing a BETA version instead of the stable ?22:50
fta<micahg> BUGabundo: last month22:50
fta<BUGabundo> ho did I miss that?22:50
BUGabundook22:50
BUGabundothanks22:50
ftaBUGabundo, + "because there is no stable for linux yet"22:51
BUGabundoahh22:51
BUGabundothat would help22:51
ftayou can subscribe to my chromium monitoring branch to get notified22:51
BUGabundoI already don't read all the email or RSS I should22:52
gnomefreakmicahg: cant it comes up as old settings22:52
BUGabundohave to treem it down22:52
BUGabundono add more22:52
micahggnomefreak: you need to close the client first22:55
gnomefreaki did22:56
micahgmv .thunderbird-3.0 out of the way and then make an empty dir there22:56
gnomefreakmaybe 3.1 was inporting22:57
micahggnomefreak: which are you running?22:58
gnomefreakmicahg: 3.022:58
micahgyeah, so what I said should work22:58
micahg3.0 doesn't know about 3.122:58
gnomefreakit didnt22:58
micahggnomefreak: thunderbird-3.0 -ProfileManger :P22:59
gnomefreaktrying22:59
* micahg wonders when the simple solutions will register first :)22:59
gnomefreaknope :(22:59
micahggnomefreak: you created a new profile?23:00
gnomefreakmicahg: yes and thunderbird-3.0 -ProfileManger didnt help23:00
micahggnomefreak: are you sure that tb3 is closing?23:00
gnomefreakyes but ill try to kill it23:00
* micahg noticed that TB3 doesn't always close23:01
gnomefreakgnomefreak@Development:~$ ps aux |grep thunderbird23:01
gnomefreak1000      5611  0.0  0.2   1832   588 pts/1    S+   18:01   0:00 grep thunderbird23:01
micahgk23:01
gnomefreakdidnt help23:01
* micahg is running out of ideas...23:01
* gnomefreak too23:02
gnomefreakbrb23:02
micahggnomefreak: are you launching thunderbird-3.0?23:02
gnomefreakmicahg: yes from launcher on my panel23:08
gnomefreakit brings up 3 windows first is my boxes23:08
micahgmight want to check the launcher23:09
gnomefreakone was 40423:09
gnomefreakthunderbird-3.0 %u23:09
micahghmm23:09
gnomefreakthis is pissing me off. do i have to remove --purge than install it again?23:09
micahggnomefreak: won't help23:10
* gnomefreak cant believe this is so hard23:10
micahggnomefreak: the only 2 dirs it looks at is .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird-3.023:10
gnomefreakmicahg: ah maybe because i have 2.0 installed23:11
micahggnomefreak: shouldn't matter23:11
micahgthe daily is meant to sit side by side23:11
gnomefreakchecks /n for mozilla people :(23:11
gnomefreak[reed]: are you around for tbird help?23:12
micahggnomefreak: ls -l ~/.*thunderbird* should show you what's there23:13
micahgit'll show you which dirs have imported profiles as the names will be the same23:14
gnomefreaki dont have .thunderbird-3.0 only the 3 backups23:14
micahggnomefreak: k, now mkdir ~/.thunderbird-3.023:15
gnomefreakah workewd23:16
micahg\o/23:16
gnomefreakthanks23:17
micahggnomefreak: np, I've been fighting with the profiles for over a week with the TB3 migrator script :)23:17
gnomefreaklol i cant do shit right today23:27
gnomefreakFailed to connect to server gmail.23:27
gnomefreakserver name == gmail port ==993 and using SSL/TLS23:28
gnomefreakwhat is Gloda.myContact?23:29
gnomefreakok got that working23:33
gnomefreakmicahg: any reason why my inbox and default folders are above my email address23:33
micahggnomefreak: local folders?23:34
gnomefreakno that is at bottom23:34
micahgwhich view are you in?23:34
gnomefreakthe folders are inbox,trash,outbox,allmail,drafts,sent mail,spam23:34
gnomefreakmain view i think23:35
micahgare you in the all folders view?23:35
micahgor favorites?23:35
micahgprobably smart folders23:35
gnomefreakah i see it is right now. i was in smart folder view23:35
micahgchange to all if you want it normal23:35
gnomefreakholy crap one box is downloading 1699223:49
gnomefreakemails23:49
gnomefreakmicahg: thanks again :)23:57
micahggnomefreak: np23:58
micahggnomefreak: you can set it not to d/l all messages in the migrator23:59

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