=== ]reed[ is now known as [reed] [10:16] fta: maybe retry the inrepid build? [10:55] asac, it failed on all ppas for {intrepid,jaunty}+amd64 [12:28] asac: you there? [12:29] yes [12:30] can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sindhudweep-sarkar/gnash/gnash0.8.7packaging [12:34] Happy Carnaval o/ [12:35] have fun ;) [12:35] sindhudweep: i might not get to it today. have to rush some stuff for a3 [12:35] perfectly understandable [12:35] should i try to grab you in a week or so? [12:37] thanks asac [12:37] you too [12:38] sindhudweep: i would assume tomorrow - latest wednesday the doors are closed for a3 [12:39] so then i am avail ;) [12:39] just poke me [12:39] great. I'll try to poke you then :D [12:39] welcome! [12:39] thanks, bye! === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_FOODZ [13:14] !test [13:14] hrm? === BUGabundo_FOODZ is now known as BUGabundo [14:15] asac, upstream said they will fix ch to be usable with system libs [14:17] nice [14:17] fta2: will they include it in their test/QA somehow? [14:17] otherwise it feels like a huge risk if we closely want to follow their releases [14:17] or will they define a reference platform (like hardy or lucid) where they test on? [14:26] not sure. they had a dedicated builder for that at some point, but noone cared enough to keep it updated [14:27] as fedora is willing to stick to as many system libs at all costs, it puts some pressure on upstream [14:34] fta [ 819.688012] chromium-browse[6138] general protection ip:171edfb sp:7fff3f556a10 error:0 in chromium-browser[400000+22b7000] [14:34] [ 1489.795093] chromium-browse[6291] general protection ip:171edf7 sp:7fff3f556a10 error:0 in chromium-browser (deleted)[400000+22b7000] [14:38] fta2: so did fedora already find a fix for xslt issue? or dont they have it? [14:39] asac, i don't know, but their patches are public [14:40] BUGabundo, not very helpful, you should file a bug [14:40] fta im still getting snaps [14:40] now at identica [14:41] I though you fixed it yesterday [14:42] BUGabundo, which version are you using? [14:42] 5.0.329.0 (39037) Ubuntu [14:44] BUGabundo: package version i guess [14:44] Installed: 5.0.330.0~svn20100216r39077-0ubuntu2~ucd1 [15:08] BUGabundo, should work, it's probably another issue then [15:08] ok [15:08] anything on my side I can do to debug ? [15:45] asac: around? [15:49] micahg: yes [15:49] preparing a call in 10 [15:49] asac: k, is there anything else needed for TB3? [15:55] micahg: what i had looked good [15:56] will upload it i think [16:00] asac: [reed]: anything about this http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly#comment-41247 [18:34] asac: hey, do you have any idea what testing was performed on ff3 and ff35 in the mozilla security ppa? [18:36] micahg: 12:34 < jdstrand> asac: hey, do you have any idea what testing was performed on ff3 and ff35 in the mozilla security ppa? [18:36] micahg: hi btw [18:37] hi jdstrand [18:37] jdstrand: no, sorry [18:37] asac: any idea for testing of ff3.0/3.5 updates/ [18:45] jdstrand: no testing on my side ... normal community testing for 1.5 days (no complains) [18:45] e.g. lacks extensive tests by you and me [18:54] asac: I think I have the PPA apport issue fixed [18:55] asac: can I pastebin the bzr diff for you before I push? [18:57] micahg: yes [18:58] asac: http://pastebin.com/fdd3ca26 [19:12] How do I add the PPA, but pin it so that I have to specify which packages I want? (I just want thunderbird-3.0, the "stock" firefox is just fine, and I don't want to upgrade it.) [19:16] Dunkirk: we'll probably be making a thunderbird-stable PPA soon if you want to wait [19:16] Dunkirk: or I can give you the pin configuration for the daily ppa [19:17] micahg, I would like both, actually. ;-) [19:17] micahg, For the record, I really want to understand pinning in general, so seeing your example would be brilliant. [19:17] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/377828/ could go in /etc/apt/preferences.d/umd [19:18] Dunkirk: here's a tutorial on pinning: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html [19:19] Dunkirk: I actually pin all PPAs at 450 and override when necessary [19:19] micahg, That's swell! How would I know to use "o=" and what "stuff" would be? [19:19] Dunkirk: take a look at 'apt-cache policy' [19:19] micahg, Ok, begging another, why do you do 450, but tell me 475? [19:19] Dunkirk: it's all relative [19:19] I use 450 so I can override in between [19:19] 500 is default [19:20] Woah. [19:21] micahg, WAAAAY cool. Thanks for that. That's been a mystery for about 10 years now. (I've wandered through Suse and Gentoo lands for a long time since looking at Debian.) [19:26] micahg, Hrm. I don't mean to be a pest, but after putting that file into place, and reloading the configuration, synaptic still wants to pull in the newer firefox. [19:29] Dunkirk: sudo apt-get update? [19:31] Yeah. apt-get upgrade isn't showing anything, but if I "mark all changes" in synaptic, it gets picked up. I see that `aptitude' also picks it up. I guess synaptic runs aptitude? [19:32] Dunkirk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [19:33] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/377841/ [19:34] hmm [19:34] Dunkirk: aptitude shouldn't upgrade that [19:34] Guess I'm going to have to "lock version" in synaptic. [19:35] Dunkirk: check in #ubuntu about that...I don't know why synaptic would do that [19:35] Dunkirk: you don't want to lock version as we still provide updates for 3.5 in karmic [19:35] (one should be coming this week) [19:36] Hrm... OK. I'll check later. Roger on the updates. I hadn't thought of that. [19:36] I'll keep an eye out for that Thunderbird-only PPA. ;-) [19:36] micahg, Thanks again. [19:36] Dunkirk: np [20:04] asac: would it be bad for me to retweet your dent to the ubuntu group? [20:05] http://www.ted.com/talks/blaise_aguera.html [20:10] micahg: no why not [20:10] i think its just bad to retweet without removing groups currently used in the dent [20:10] asac: idk, I'm new to denting :) [20:10] asac: I saw no groups [20:11] micahg: yes, i forgot [20:11] micahg: ask BUGabundo about etiquette [20:11] asac: np, I rt'd it :) [20:11] ;) [20:11] ? [20:11] asac: how was my diff? [20:12] YOU RD TO GROUPS!?!?!?!?!? [20:12] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [20:12] NEVER EVER do that [20:12] you get killed, and hundreds replies from users [20:12] micahg: you chatted too much ;) [20:12] BUGabundo: initial dent didnt have any group [20:12] ahh [20:12] so rd with group is ok imo [20:12] then its safe [20:13] if you think its worth forwarding to a group [20:13] that didnt get it yet [20:13] some ppl will still complain [20:13] but you can shut off those [20:13] yeah, because they miss that fact i just metnioned ;) [20:13] jcastro, will we have that in lucid? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk4MQ [20:13] micahg: and its ReDent [20:13] not retweet [20:13] fta, unsure, tseliot is the guy to ask though [20:13] asac: http://pastebin.com/fdd3ca26 <--ff bzr commits === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_FOODZ [20:14] micahg: how about abrowser-branding etc.? [20:14] for packages? [20:14] or does it fail if a package isnt installed? [20:15] asac: shouldn't fail [20:15] I could add whatever I think [20:15] idk [20:15] micahg: add email on first commit [20:15] micahg: please leave ffox 3.6 open [20:15] i have to add a patch tomorrow before the upload [20:15] otherwise it looks good [20:15] jcastro, you're well informed & well connected :) it's usually easier to ask you rather than remembering lots of nicknames and their respective specialties :P [20:15] asac: ok, I'll redo the commits tonight [20:16] yeah sorry, I don't follow nouveau closely at all. [20:16] asac: do you want abrowser in there? [20:16] asac: also, can you do the ubufox merge I proposed? [20:16] abrowser abrowser-branding [20:16] ubufox [20:16] micahg: what did that do? [20:17] asac: changed the apport reporting package to firefox instead of firefox-$version [20:17] for everything except 3.0 and 3.5 [20:18] asac: why do we have a firefox-dev package? [20:18] * micahg thought we weren't going to allow building against ff [20:30] just because i wasnt sure [20:30] isnt -dev empty? [20:30] i think we should empty it [20:30] * micahg doesn't remember [20:31] it's empty I think [20:31] yeah, should we change the descritpion then? [20:32] hey - could someone take a look at bug 482890? I can't get neither squeeze version or current lucid one to work with seamonkey [20:32] Launchpad bug 482890 in mozilla-noscript "Please merge mozilla-noscript 1.9.9.27-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/482890 [20:32] asac: http://pastebin.com/md854544 seems inappropriate [20:33] kklimonda: are you using SM1 or SM2? [20:33] yeah [20:33] micahg: SM1 from lucid repository [20:33] micahg: anyway. lets start on the transition ppa [20:33] isn anything missing for xul 1.9.2 ? [20:34] asac: yeah, 1 thing, I was going to merge tonight on my way home and start pushing [20:34] merge? [20:34] rebase? [20:34] asac: merge === BUGabundo_FOODZ is now known as BUGabundo [20:34] micahg: if I install debian package I get errors about noscript not installed correctly. The Ubuntu package installs fine and there is no error but also I see no indication that noscript is actually running [20:34] oh the dh_xullrunner thing? i thought it already happened [20:35] asac: that was for xul191 [20:35] micahg: did you already add the unversioned -dev package? [20:35] asac: yeah [20:35] micahg: good. what merge is it thne? [20:35] asac: one of the non ppa arches I think [20:35] ? [20:35] the sparce thing? [20:35] ok [20:35] bug 427638 [20:35] Launchpad bug 427638 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "xulrunner includes no longer have nspr headers; explicit link against nspr is required." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427638 [20:35] we have that patch in 191 i think [20:36] nope, nspr :) [20:36] ok [20:36] double check that the patch does the same we did last package [20:36] then its good [20:36] k, then I'll push tonight before bed that and everything in main on the xulrunner list [20:38] kklimonda: if no one else looks at it, I can look later, sometimes we modify the install.rdf on extensions to only work with a certain version of the package [20:39] kklimonda: what TZ are you in? [20:41] micahg: UTC+1 but actually I see that it not depends on seamonkey-browser (>= 2.0) which is weird - I remember checking it two weeks ago and it wasn't there.. /me is confused.. [20:42] it now* [20:42] kklimonda: yeah, that's probably why [20:42] SM1 will be EOL soon [20:42] kklimonda: we hope to replace it for Lucid... [20:42] s/we/me :) [20:43] micahg: great - I'll change it to sync request then [20:43] kklimonda: yep, there are still a few pieces missing but hopefully by beta 1 all the pieces will be in [20:54] micahg: can you sync it or should ask on -motu? :) [20:55] kklimonda: I can't yet...maybe soon :) [20:55] ach :) === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [21:41] hi gnomefreak [21:41] hi micahg [21:41] gnomefreak: we didn't have the meeting as asac and I were the only ones tehre :) [21:41] micahg: sorry about that [21:42] gnomefreak: np, we should reschedule in a few weeks [21:44] if someone comes up with a date and agenda i can pretty much work it out. i only have a handful of appointments in the next month i think [21:44] oh shit 3.0 is not helping. [21:45] gnomefreak: ? [21:45] micahg: i think it was the server. i fixed it [21:48] i got the error again damnit. [21:48] Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and password not accepted. [21:49] it would be nice if it told you what account [21:49] gnomefreak: why not use imap? [21:50] gnomefreak: check activity manager [21:50] imap+tb has too many bugs. at least did [21:50] gnomefreak: I've been using it since 2.0.x without issue [21:50] *issues [21:50] ok let me see if i can change it and get it working [21:53] ok ill give it a little time before i open it again [21:54] asac: looks like we can jump from 3.0 to 3.0.2 for TB :) [21:54] when did chromium entered the archive? [21:54] and why are we pushing a BETA version instead of the stable ? [21:55] BUGabundo: last month [21:55] ho did I miss that? [21:56] * gnomefreak be back in a few [21:56] BUGabundo: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/4.0.305.0~svn20100123r36929-0ubuntu1 [21:57] 5.0.307.7~r38400+0-0ubuntu1 0 [21:57] 500 http://neacm.fe.up.pt lucid/universe Packages [21:57] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Packages [21:57] BUGabundo: that was the initial entry into archive :) [21:58] ah [22:01] do we have profile patch for tb or is it in debian/*profile? [22:01] to use thunderbird dir. [22:02] sorry mozillathunderbird dir [22:02] - [22:02] * gnomefreak hopes it upgrades with little issues [22:03] imap didnt help it seems [22:04] gnomefreak: daily? [22:04] yes [22:04] thunderbird-3-profile in debian/patches [22:04] gnomefreak: I think google requires SSL? [22:04] im using SSL but rechecking [22:05] micahg: server 995 ok? [22:05] gnomefreak: that's POP secure [22:05] iirc [22:06] what server should i use and should i use secure auth.? [22:06] * micahg checks his settings [22:06] * gnomefreak doesnt remember :( [22:06] imap.gmail.com 993 ssl/tls [22:07] ok lets try [22:07] * gnomefreak tries [22:08] hmmmmm [22:09] gnomefreak: username w/out domain if it's gmail [22:11] micahg: in the server settings or the main settings [22:12] gnomefreak: server I think [22:12] * gnomefreak thought server settings was only place to use that [22:12] micahg: i have been using it without @* [22:12] it still fails? [22:12] i think i found the problem now i have to find it [22:13] under server settings the server type says pop but i cant find the setting for that [22:14] server name is imap.* [22:15] i would love not to have to start over [22:16] gnomefreak: oh, hmmm, idk if you can convert yet [22:16] gnomefreak: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13273 [22:17] so, it should be 995 for pop3s [22:20] 993 for imap [22:21] gnomefreak: I don't think you can convert from pop to imap in the interface [22:21] i had the settings set as imap in gmail [22:21] that's the problem [22:21] so you need to make a new account [22:21] in TB [22:21] i guess i have to :( now to remember the accounts i have [22:22] _Tsk_: there's no way to convert from pop to imap, right? [22:22] <_Tsk_> convert what ? [22:22] <_Tsk_> when creating an account or created accounts ? [22:23] _Tsk_: created [22:23] created [22:23] <_Tsk_> no :-( [22:23] <_Tsk_> not that I know of [22:23] should be an enh request if it's not already :) [22:25] * gnomefreak has to reset filters too? [22:25] mozilla 129055 [22:25] Mozilla bug 129055 in MailNews: Account Configuration "[RFE] Allow change of server type (IMAP to POP)" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129055 [22:27] any way to carry filters over? [22:30] gnomefreak: there should be an extension to export filters and reimport [22:37] you would think rm -rf thunderbird-3.0 would work [22:37] be back smoke+think [22:38] gnomefreak: for what? [22:38] micahg: to remove all settings so i can re-enter accounts [22:38] gnomefreak: mv ~/.thunderbird-3.0 ~/.thunderbird-3.0.bak [22:42] * gnomefreak tries again [22:43] nope [22:44] gnomefreak: ls -ld ~/.*thunderbird* [22:46] gnomefreak: if you have a TB2 profile, it'll keep importing it as well, so after you do the mv, just touch ~/.thunderbird-3.0 [22:46] oops [22:46] gnomefreak: that should be mkdir ~/.thunderbird-3.0 [22:46] should create a new identity on next launch then [22:46] BUGabundo, fta@cube:/data/bot/chromium-browser.head $ grep ^c debian/changelog [22:46] chromium-browser (5.0.307.7~r38400+0-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low [22:46] chromium-browser (5.0.307.7~r38400-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low [22:46] chromium-browser (5.0.307.5~r37950+0-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low [22:46] chromium-browser (5.0.307.5~r37950-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low [22:46] chromium-browser (4.0.305.0~svn20100123r36929-0ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low [22:48] so another fix? [22:50] BUGabundo, what for? [22:50] I don't know [22:50] you ping me [22:50] when did chromium entered the archive? [22:50] and why are we pushing a BETA version instead of the stable ? [22:50] BUGabundo: last month [22:50] ho did I miss that? [22:50] ok [22:50] thanks [22:51] BUGabundo, + "because there is no stable for linux yet" [22:51] ahh [22:51] that would help [22:51] you can subscribe to my chromium monitoring branch to get notified [22:52] I already don't read all the email or RSS I should [22:52] micahg: cant it comes up as old settings [22:52] have to treem it down [22:52] no add more [22:55] gnomefreak: you need to close the client first [22:56] i did [22:56] mv .thunderbird-3.0 out of the way and then make an empty dir there [22:57] maybe 3.1 was inporting [22:58] gnomefreak: which are you running? [22:58] micahg: 3.0 [22:58] yeah, so what I said should work [22:58] 3.0 doesn't know about 3.1 [22:58] it didnt [22:59] gnomefreak: thunderbird-3.0 -ProfileManger :P [22:59] trying [22:59] * micahg wonders when the simple solutions will register first :) [22:59] nope :( [23:00] gnomefreak: you created a new profile? [23:00] micahg: yes and thunderbird-3.0 -ProfileManger didnt help [23:00] gnomefreak: are you sure that tb3 is closing? [23:00] yes but ill try to kill it [23:01] * micahg noticed that TB3 doesn't always close [23:01] gnomefreak@Development:~$ ps aux |grep thunderbird [23:01] 1000 5611 0.0 0.2 1832 588 pts/1 S+ 18:01 0:00 grep thunderbird [23:01] k [23:01] didnt help [23:01] * micahg is running out of ideas... [23:02] * gnomefreak too [23:02] brb [23:02] gnomefreak: are you launching thunderbird-3.0? [23:08] micahg: yes from launcher on my panel [23:08] it brings up 3 windows first is my boxes [23:09] might want to check the launcher [23:09] one was 404 [23:09] thunderbird-3.0 %u [23:09] hmm [23:09] this is pissing me off. do i have to remove --purge than install it again? [23:10] gnomefreak: won't help [23:10] * gnomefreak cant believe this is so hard [23:10] gnomefreak: the only 2 dirs it looks at is .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird-3.0 [23:11] micahg: ah maybe because i have 2.0 installed [23:11] gnomefreak: shouldn't matter [23:11] the daily is meant to sit side by side [23:11] checks /n for mozilla people :( [23:12] [reed]: are you around for tbird help? [23:13] gnomefreak: ls -l ~/.*thunderbird* should show you what's there [23:14] it'll show you which dirs have imported profiles as the names will be the same [23:14] i dont have .thunderbird-3.0 only the 3 backups [23:15] gnomefreak: k, now mkdir ~/.thunderbird-3.0 [23:16] ah workewd [23:16] \o/ [23:17] thanks [23:17] gnomefreak: np, I've been fighting with the profiles for over a week with the TB3 migrator script :) [23:27] lol i cant do shit right today [23:27] Failed to connect to server gmail. [23:28] server name == gmail port ==993 and using SSL/TLS [23:29] what is Gloda.myContact? [23:33] ok got that working [23:33] micahg: any reason why my inbox and default folders are above my email address [23:34] gnomefreak: local folders? [23:34] no that is at bottom [23:34] which view are you in? [23:34] the folders are inbox,trash,outbox,allmail,drafts,sent mail,spam [23:35] main view i think [23:35] are you in the all folders view? [23:35] or favorites? [23:35] probably smart folders [23:35] ah i see it is right now. i was in smart folder view [23:35] change to all if you want it normal [23:49] holy crap one box is downloading 16992 [23:49] emails [23:57] micahg: thanks again :) [23:58] gnomefreak: np [23:59] gnomefreak: you can set it not to d/l all messages in the migrator