jelkner | good morning all | 15:39 |
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jelkner | irc.ubuntu.net is not resolving | 15:40 |
jelkner | so i couldn't get on irc without changing to freenode | 15:41 |
jelkner | that may be a problem for other ubuntu users who don't know what to do | 15:42 |
jelkner | weird | 15:42 |
jelkner | i don't know much about how dns works | 15:42 |
jelkner | but host irc.ubuntu.net | 15:42 |
jelkner | returns: | 15:42 |
jelkner | ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. | 15:42 |
jelkner | socket.c:2486: REQUIRE((((sock) != ((void *)0)) && (((const isc__magic_t *)(sock))->magic == ((('I') << 24 | ('O') << 16 | ('i') << 8 | ('o')))))) failed. | 15:42 |
jelkner | Aborted | 15:42 |
jelkner | anyone know to whom i could report this? | 15:43 |
jelkner | anyway, need to get ready for class | 15:43 |
jelkner | we have a meeting here today at 1:40 pm | 15:43 |
jelkner | is there anybody out there? | 15:53 |
jelkner | MYabes would like to link his smoke test data to some where | 15:53 |
jelkner | i told him we should have a wiki portal for that | 15:54 |
jelkner | he is recording his data in a google doc | 15:54 |
dfarning | good morn, just got done shoveling. | 15:54 |
jelkner | publish as web page and link to wiki would be the easiest next step | 15:54 |
jelkner | dfarning, where should michael link his results? | 15:54 |
dfarning | jelkner, could he put it under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test on the wiki? | 15:55 |
dfarning | MYabes, that way is it available for other to use and build on top of. | 15:56 |
dfarning | 1 register for an account on the ubuntu wiki. | 15:57 |
dfarning | 2. type the name for the new page in your browser -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test/Results | 15:58 |
dfarning | 3 click create new page. | 15:59 |
jelkner | #startmeeting | 18:40 |
meeting | Meeting started at 13:41 UTC. The chair is jelkner. | 18:40 |
meeting | Commands Available: #TOPIC, #IDEA, #ACTION, #AGREED, #LINK | 18:40 |
jelkner | OK, anyone here in addition to me for the sugarlabs dc meeting? | 18:40 |
jelkner | michael is here also, but he is waiting for his computer to boot | 18:41 |
jelkner | hi michael | 18:50 |
MYabes | hey | 18:50 |
jelkner | we are waiting for anurag | 18:50 |
jelkner | he is on a public computer | 18:50 |
jelkner | downloading chatzilla | 18:50 |
MYabes | ok | 18:51 |
jelkner | hi Anurag! | 18:52 |
Anurag | hey sorry for the delay | 18:53 |
jelkner | ok, looks like only you, MYabes and i | 18:53 |
Anurag | was using a MAC | 18:53 |
jelkner | that's ok | 18:53 |
jelkner | let's get started | 18:53 |
jelkner | 1st thing i wanted to do is get you MYabes schedule | 18:53 |
Anurag | ok great | 18:53 |
jelkner | MYabes, can you tell Anurag which days / times you are here? | 18:53 |
MYabes | tues, thurs,fri 8:30-11:05, 12:30-2:40 | 18:54 |
jelkner | and mon, wed from 1:40 to 2:40 | 18:55 |
jelkner | hgrover is here mon-fri from 1:40 to 2:40 pm | 18:55 |
jelkner | btw. I'm really glad we have this channel auto logging now | 18:56 |
jelkner | i was able to review the discussion here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/10/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html | 18:56 |
jelkner | to look up the meeting commands | 18:56 |
jelkner | ok, Anurag, we need some guidance | 18:56 |
jelkner | which i understand is your department ;-) | 18:57 |
jelkner | MYabes has been working his way through the smoke test | 18:57 |
jelkner | he has a google doc he has created with the results so far | 18:57 |
jelkner | MYabes, can you please past the url here? | 18:57 |
Anurag | are you using the smoke test that's on the sugar labs wiki? | 18:58 |
jelkner | s/past/paste | 18:58 |
Anurag | i think that was created last september | 18:58 |
MYabes | http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs | 18:59 |
jelkner | so Anurag, MYabes is looking for guidance | 18:59 |
jelkner | i can get more folks involved in testing, but it only makes sense if we can contribute in a real way | 19:00 |
jelkner | Anurag, what do you think? | 19:01 |
Anurag | right, I think we need to ask David what specifically he wants to include on the smoke test | 19:01 |
jelkner | Anurag, when do you work on this project? | 19:02 |
jelkner | how many hours per week and which ones? | 19:02 |
jelkner | i'd like to try to coordinate with you | 19:02 |
Anurag | I usually work 10 hrs a week | 19:02 |
Anurag | usually from 12-2 mon - thurs | 19:03 |
jelkner | hmm... | 19:03 |
Anurag | and then a couple hrs during the weekend | 19:03 |
Anurag | have u seen the smoke test for the .84 release? | 19:03 |
jelkner | given MYabes times, is there a possibility to schedule overlap times? | 19:03 |
Anurag | http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Smoke_test | 19:03 |
jelkner | no | 19:03 |
* jelkner looks | 19:03 | |
jelkner | ok, this is better | 19:04 |
jelkner | do you want us to run this? | 19:04 |
Anurag | yea, at least use it as a foundation | 19:05 |
jelkner | let's get our wiki info down here | 19:05 |
jelkner | to refer to later | 19:05 |
jelkner | we should use the ubuntu resources | 19:05 |
jelkner | so the ubuntu wiki | 19:05 |
jelkner | do we have a home page on the wiki? | 19:05 |
jelkner | Anurag, do you know if we have a home page on the wiki? | 19:06 |
jelkner | like a start page | 19:07 |
jelkner | from which we can link everything else? | 19:07 |
Anurag | don't think we have a home page | 19:07 |
Anurag | I can make one | 19:07 |
Anurag | titled "Ubuntu Sugar Remix" ? | 19:07 |
jelkner | yes | 19:08 |
jelkner | let's confirm with dfarning | 19:08 |
jelkner | but that sounds good to me | 19:08 |
jelkner | UbuntuSugarRemix | 19:08 |
jelkner | as a wiki word | 19:08 |
jelkner | i can make it if you like | 19:08 |
jelkner | but i didn't want to do it if it is already there | 19:08 |
jelkner | let me look | 19:08 |
Anurag | yea sure that would be great | 19:09 |
Anurag | pretty sure it's not there already | 19:09 |
jelkner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix | 19:09 |
jelkner | it is there | 19:09 |
jelkner | Anurag, do you have a launchpad account? | 19:09 |
Anurag | yes | 19:10 |
jelkner | cool | 19:10 |
jelkner | so this is the portal page | 19:10 |
jelkner | can you create a smoke test page? | 19:10 |
Anurag | yea, as a subpage? | 19:10 |
jelkner | yes | 19:10 |
jelkner | SmokeTest | 19:11 |
Anurag | yea I can do that | 19:11 |
jelkner | cool | 19:11 |
jelkner | then copy the smoke test from the .84 version you showed us | 19:11 |
jelkner | and we can modify it to suit our needs | 19:11 |
jelkner | sound like a plan? | 19:11 |
Anurag | sounds good | 19:11 |
jelkner | until recently, USR wouldn't load from gdm | 19:11 |
jelkner | i checked yesterday and it did | 19:12 |
jelkner | i have testing machines available | 19:12 |
jelkner | so as soon as we have a good process | 19:12 |
jelkner | MYabes can have at it | 19:12 |
satellit_ | hello I have been testing USR also here | 19:12 |
jelkner | satellit_, awesome! | 19:12 |
jelkner | let's get a test process on the wiki | 19:12 |
jelkner | so we can all be reading from the same script | 19:13 |
Anurag | is there a USR image accessible? | 19:13 |
satellit_ | I have VBox and VMworkstation here and several netbooks | 19:13 |
jelkner | Anurag, what is your job description? | 19:13 |
jelkner | what exactly are you tasked with for your 10 hours? | 19:13 |
jelkner | i want to include that in my thinking on how we can work together | 19:14 |
jelkner | satellit_, great | 19:14 |
Anurag | caroline and I usually work together to set my objectives | 19:14 |
hgrover | hello all | 19:14 |
Anurag | but she wants me to spend a lot of my time this semester working with USR | 19:14 |
jelkner | Anurag should i ask her then? | 19:14 |
Anurag | and testing Blueberry | 19:14 |
jelkner | ok | 19:14 |
jelkner | if we could know your availability | 19:15 |
jelkner | (and i'll ask her) | 19:15 |
jelkner | then we can plan better | 19:15 |
jelkner | can you be responsible for the smoke test? | 19:15 |
Anurag | looks like this time would be the best since it works for all of us | 19:15 |
jelkner | this time is great for our weekly meeting | 19:15 |
Anurag | yes | 19:15 |
jelkner | i'm not suggesting we change that | 19:16 |
jelkner | i'm just talking more in general | 19:16 |
satellit_ | will USR work with http://schooltool.org/? | 19:16 |
jelkner | satellit_, yes | 19:16 |
jelkner | since USR runs on top of ubuntu | 19:17 |
jelkner | and schooltool does too | 19:17 |
Anurag | would you have to "sugarize" it first | 19:17 |
jelkner | http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/install-toc.html | 19:17 |
jelkner | Anurag, it is a web app | 19:17 |
jelkner | so no | 19:17 |
Anurag | o ok, then yea it should definitely work | 19:18 |
jelkner | it runs as a service on localhost:7080 | 19:18 |
jelkner | after installing the debs | 19:18 |
jelkner | ok, i have students | 19:19 |
jelkner | i need to attend to | 19:19 |
Anurag | ok | 19:20 |
jelkner | Anurag, can you talk to MYabes and hgrover about what they should do this week? | 19:20 |
jelkner | and then i'll check back in and close the meeting | 19:20 |
Anurag | yea no problem | 19:20 |
jelkner | so, we have a few goals: | 19:20 |
jelkner | 1. get the smoke test up | 19:20 |
jelkner | 2. start using it to test | 19:20 |
jelkner | i'll send the minutes to dfarning and caroline | 19:22 |
Anurag | ok great | 19:22 |
jelkner | and see if there are other things that should be on the list. | 19:22 |
hgrover | (the smoke test isn't still up?) | 19:22 |
Anurag | so it looks like our times overlap 1:40- 2:40 on pretty much all week days | 19:22 |
Anurag | no it's not up yet | 19:23 |
hgrover | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test? | 19:23 |
hgrover | is that just an unfinished version? sorry for being confused, i think i missed something =) | 19:23 |
Anurag | oh I've never seen this page, looking over it right now, one sec | 19:25 |
hgrover | yeah, i think it's in the process of being updated constantly | 19:26 |
hgrover | we're basically trying to fill it up with our goals, which i'm sure jeff has told you about anurang? | 19:26 |
Anurag | yea looks like david updated it yesterday | 19:27 |
hgrover | alright | 19:27 |
Anurag | now do you know if anyone has had a chance to run this smoke test on USR? | 19:27 |
hgrover | i think that's what myabes is supposed to be doing, he just ran to the water fountain | 19:28 |
hgrover | yeah, myabes ran through it and made a google doc about what worked and what didn't | 19:28 |
hgrover | what was the link, michael? | 19:28 |
Anurag | I saw the link | 19:28 |
MYabes | http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs | 19:28 |
hgrover | (i didn't =)) | 19:29 |
Anurag | Michael did you just basically try running a bunch of different activities? | 19:29 |
Anurag | have you done any of the other tests on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test ? | 19:29 |
satellit_ | how are you doing smoke test? Virtual Box /CD/USB? | 19:30 |
Anurag | Henry do you know? | 19:31 |
hgrover | i don't, let me help him find out | 19:31 |
Anurag | I'm assuming VM | 19:32 |
hgrover | he actually installed karmic on his laptop, then installed USR from the ppa | 19:32 |
MYabes | i just tried all of the activities on usr, to see if they worked or not | 19:32 |
hgrover | so no VM craziness at all | 19:32 |
satellit_ | ovf import works well in sun Virtualbox | 19:33 |
hgrover | I'm a little confused about the state of things. Did we ever get a place where one could just download USR VDI's? | 19:34 |
satellit_ | http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/ for DL of iso and ovf files (4required) | 19:34 |
Anurag | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test | 19:35 |
hgrover | ah, awesome | 19:35 |
satellit_ | david builds them with script | 19:35 |
Anurag | so I think we should create a spreadsheet that covers the different parameters on david's version of the smoke test | 19:35 |
Anurag | and then come up with some kind of testing schedule | 19:37 |
hgrover | yeah. myabes has a good amount of time each day, a little bit of which i think was portioned to the smoke test (is that right, michael?) | 19:37 |
MYabes | yes | 19:38 |
hgrover | alright, awesome | 19:38 |
hgrover | so as changes are made, michael can tell us what works and what doesn't, wherfe should this spreadsheet be though? a shared googledoc? | 19:38 |
hgrover | where* | 19:38 |
Anurag | yea just make it a shared google doc | 19:39 |
hgrover | and it's 2:40, we have to go catch our bus >.< | 19:39 |
Anurag | so we can all update it | 19:39 |
hgrover | and alright, that sounds good | 19:39 |
Anurag | alright i'll stay on until jeff gets back | 19:39 |
hgrover | i can come back tomorrow at this time, if there's anything more to be discussed? alright | 19:39 |
Anurag | sounds good jeff or I will probably send an email | 19:39 |
MYabes | i have to go now, cya | 19:40 |
jelkner | #endmeeting | 19:40 |
meeting | Meeting finished at 14:42. | 19:40 |
meeting | Logs available at http://me.etin.gs/ubuntu-sugarteam/ubuntu-sugarteam.log.20100216_1341.html | 19:40 |
* dfarning read logs:) | 19:41 | |
satellit_ | note: USR does not shut down correctly use terminal sudo shutdown -h now | 19:41 |
Anurag | o ok | 19:41 |
satellit_ | otherwise it hangs if you use F3 dropdown "shutdown" and you cannot get to terminal | 19:42 |
dfarning | satellit_, still a know problem. It won't get fixed until lucic developers settle on a startup/shutdown process. | 19:42 |
satellit_ | OK I wa just warning them of the way it is......: ) | 19:43 |
Anurag | david do you know if anyone has run through your smoke test yet? | 19:44 |
dfarning | satellit_, there are hooks in the most recent iso so crashes get sent ot llaunchpd via arport. | 19:44 |
satellit_ | great | 19:44 |
satellit_ | do you have to log in to use it? that has stopped me in the past | 19:45 |
dfarning | Anurag, not that I know of... I just cut a pasted a smoke test that I set up for some students at RIT last semester. | 19:45 |
Anurag | o ok, I was wondering why it kept referring to an XO | 19:46 |
dfarning | satellit_, Yes, I think you need to be logged into LP | 19:46 |
satellit_ | dfarning: that would be better if you did not have to...?more people would use it | 19:46 |
satellit_ | like fedora smolt | 19:46 |
dfarning | Anurag, yes the exercis was set up as a first lecture/first lab so the students got familiarity with the xo and worked through problems together. | 19:47 |
Anurag | david, have people been using the USR launchpad page to report problems? | 19:50 |
Anurag | or was that page set up recently? | 19:53 |
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