[15:39] good morning all [15:40] irc.ubuntu.net is not resolving [15:41] so i couldn't get on irc without changing to freenode [15:42] that may be a problem for other ubuntu users who don't know what to do [15:42] weird [15:42] i don't know much about how dns works [15:42] but host irc.ubuntu.net [15:42] returns: [15:42] ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode. [15:42] socket.c:2486: REQUIRE((((sock) != ((void *)0)) && (((const isc__magic_t *)(sock))->magic == ((('I') << 24 | ('O') << 16 | ('i') << 8 | ('o')))))) failed. [15:42] Aborted [15:43] anyone know to whom i could report this? [15:43] anyway, need to get ready for class [15:43] we have a meeting here today at 1:40 pm [15:53] is there anybody out there? [15:53] MYabes would like to link his smoke test data to some where [15:54] i told him we should have a wiki portal for that [15:54] he is recording his data in a google doc [15:54] good morn, just got done shoveling. [15:54] publish as web page and link to wiki would be the easiest next step [15:54] dfarning, where should michael link his results? [15:55] jelkner, could he put it under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test on the wiki? [15:56] MYabes, that way is it available for other to use and build on top of. [15:57] 1 register for an account on the ubuntu wiki. [15:58] 2. type the name for the new page in your browser -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test/Results [15:59] 3 click create new page. [18:40] #startmeeting [18:40] Meeting started at 13:41 UTC. The chair is jelkner. [18:40] Commands Available: #TOPIC, #IDEA, #ACTION, #AGREED, #LINK [18:40] OK, anyone here in addition to me for the sugarlabs dc meeting? [18:41] michael is here also, but he is waiting for his computer to boot [18:50] hi michael [18:50] hey [18:50] we are waiting for anurag [18:50] he is on a public computer [18:50] downloading chatzilla [18:51] ok [18:52] hi Anurag! [18:53] hey sorry for the delay [18:53] ok, looks like only you, MYabes and i [18:53] was using a MAC [18:53] that's ok [18:53] let's get started [18:53] 1st thing i wanted to do is get you MYabes schedule [18:53] ok great [18:53] MYabes, can you tell Anurag which days / times you are here? [18:54] tues, thurs,fri 8:30-11:05, 12:30-2:40 [18:55] and mon, wed from 1:40 to 2:40 [18:55] hgrover is here mon-fri from 1:40 to 2:40 pm [18:56] btw. I'm really glad we have this channel auto logging now [18:56] i was able to review the discussion here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/10/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html [18:56] to look up the meeting commands [18:56] ok, Anurag, we need some guidance [18:57] which i understand is your department ;-) [18:57] MYabes has been working his way through the smoke test [18:57] he has a google doc he has created with the results so far [18:57] MYabes, can you please past the url here? [18:58] are you using the smoke test that's on the sugar labs wiki? [18:58] s/past/paste [18:58] i think that was created last september [18:59] http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs [18:59] so Anurag, MYabes is looking for guidance [19:00] i can get more folks involved in testing, but it only makes sense if we can contribute in a real way [19:01] Anurag, what do you think? [19:01] right, I think we need to ask David what specifically he wants to include on the smoke test [19:02] Anurag, when do you work on this project? [19:02] how many hours per week and which ones? [19:02] i'd like to try to coordinate with you [19:02] I usually work 10 hrs a week [19:03] usually from 12-2 mon - thurs [19:03] hmm... [19:03] and then a couple hrs during the weekend [19:03] have u seen the smoke test for the .84 release? [19:03] given MYabes times, is there a possibility to schedule overlap times? [19:03] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Smoke_test [19:03] no [19:03] * jelkner looks [19:04] ok, this is better [19:04] do you want us to run this? [19:05] yea, at least use it as a foundation [19:05] let's get our wiki info down here [19:05] to refer to later [19:05] we should use the ubuntu resources [19:05] so the ubuntu wiki [19:05] do we have a home page on the wiki? [19:06] Anurag, do you know if we have a home page on the wiki? [19:07] like a start page [19:07] from which we can link everything else? [19:07] don't think we have a home page [19:07] I can make one [19:07] titled "Ubuntu Sugar Remix" ? [19:08] yes [19:08] let's confirm with dfarning [19:08] but that sounds good to me [19:08] UbuntuSugarRemix [19:08] as a wiki word [19:08] i can make it if you like [19:08] but i didn't want to do it if it is already there [19:08] let me look [19:09] yea sure that would be great [19:09] pretty sure it's not there already [19:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix [19:09] it is there [19:09] Anurag, do you have a launchpad account? [19:10] yes [19:10] cool [19:10] so this is the portal page [19:10] can you create a smoke test page? [19:10] yea, as a subpage? [19:10] yes [19:11] SmokeTest [19:11] yea I can do that [19:11] cool [19:11] then copy the smoke test from the .84 version you showed us [19:11] and we can modify it to suit our needs [19:11] sound like a plan? [19:11] sounds good [19:11] until recently, USR wouldn't load from gdm [19:12] i checked yesterday and it did [19:12] i have testing machines available [19:12] so as soon as we have a good process [19:12] MYabes can have at it [19:12] hello I have been testing USR also here [19:12] satellit_, awesome! [19:12] let's get a test process on the wiki [19:13] so we can all be reading from the same script [19:13] is there a USR image accessible? [19:13] I have VBox and VMworkstation here and several netbooks [19:13] Anurag, what is your job description? [19:13] what exactly are you tasked with for your 10 hours? [19:14] i want to include that in my thinking on how we can work together [19:14] satellit_, great [19:14] caroline and I usually work together to set my objectives [19:14] hello all [19:14] but she wants me to spend a lot of my time this semester working with USR [19:14] Anurag should i ask her then? [19:14] and testing Blueberry [19:14] ok [19:15] if we could know your availability [19:15] (and i'll ask her) [19:15] then we can plan better [19:15] can you be responsible for the smoke test? [19:15] looks like this time would be the best since it works for all of us [19:15] this time is great for our weekly meeting [19:15] yes [19:16] i'm not suggesting we change that [19:16] i'm just talking more in general [19:16] will USR work with http://schooltool.org/? [19:16] satellit_, yes [19:17] since USR runs on top of ubuntu [19:17] and schooltool does too [19:17] would you have to "sugarize" it first [19:17] http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/install-toc.html [19:17] Anurag, it is a web app [19:17] so no [19:18] o ok, then yea it should definitely work [19:18] it runs as a service on localhost:7080 [19:18] after installing the debs [19:19] ok, i have students [19:19] i need to attend to [19:20] ok [19:20] Anurag, can you talk to MYabes and hgrover about what they should do this week? [19:20] and then i'll check back in and close the meeting [19:20] yea no problem [19:20] so, we have a few goals: [19:20] 1. get the smoke test up [19:20] 2. start using it to test [19:22] i'll send the minutes to dfarning and caroline [19:22] ok great [19:22] and see if there are other things that should be on the list. [19:22] (the smoke test isn't still up?) [19:22] so it looks like our times overlap 1:40- 2:40 on pretty much all week days [19:23] no it's not up yet [19:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test? [19:23] is that just an unfinished version? sorry for being confused, i think i missed something =) [19:25] oh I've never seen this page, looking over it right now, one sec [19:26] yeah, i think it's in the process of being updated constantly [19:26] we're basically trying to fill it up with our goals, which i'm sure jeff has told you about anurang? [19:27] yea looks like david updated it yesterday [19:27] alright [19:27] now do you know if anyone has had a chance to run this smoke test on USR? [19:28] i think that's what myabes is supposed to be doing, he just ran to the water fountain [19:28] yeah, myabes ran through it and made a google doc about what worked and what didn't [19:28] what was the link, michael? [19:28] I saw the link [19:28] http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs [19:29] (i didn't =)) [19:29] Michael did you just basically try running a bunch of different activities? [19:29] have you done any of the other tests on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test ? [19:30] how are you doing smoke test? Virtual Box /CD/USB? [19:31] Henry do you know? [19:31] i don't, let me help him find out [19:32] I'm assuming VM [19:32] he actually installed karmic on his laptop, then installed USR from the ppa [19:32] i just tried all of the activities on usr, to see if they worked or not [19:32] so no VM craziness at all [19:33] ovf import works well in sun Virtualbox [19:34] I'm a little confused about the state of things. Did we ever get a place where one could just download USR VDI's? [19:34] http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/ for DL of iso and ovf files (4required) [19:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test [19:35] ah, awesome [19:35] david builds them with script [19:35] so I think we should create a spreadsheet that covers the different parameters on david's version of the smoke test [19:37] and then come up with some kind of testing schedule [19:37] yeah. myabes has a good amount of time each day, a little bit of which i think was portioned to the smoke test (is that right, michael?) [19:38] yes [19:38] alright, awesome [19:38] so as changes are made, michael can tell us what works and what doesn't, wherfe should this spreadsheet be though? a shared googledoc? [19:38] where* [19:39] yea just make it a shared google doc [19:39] and it's 2:40, we have to go catch our bus >.< [19:39] so we can all update it [19:39] and alright, that sounds good [19:39] alright i'll stay on until jeff gets back [19:39] i can come back tomorrow at this time, if there's anything more to be discussed? alright [19:39] sounds good jeff or I will probably send an email [19:40] i have to go now, cya [19:40] #endmeeting [19:40] Meeting finished at 14:42. [19:40] Logs available at http://me.etin.gs/ubuntu-sugarteam/ubuntu-sugarteam.log.20100216_1341.html [19:41] * dfarning read logs:) [19:41] note: USR does not shut down correctly use terminal sudo shutdown -h now [19:41] o ok [19:42] otherwise it hangs if you use F3 dropdown "shutdown" and you cannot get to terminal [19:42] satellit_, still a know problem. It won't get fixed until lucic developers settle on a startup/shutdown process. [19:43] OK I wa just warning them of the way it is......: ) [19:44] david do you know if anyone has run through your smoke test yet? [19:44] satellit_, there are hooks in the most recent iso so crashes get sent ot llaunchpd via arport. [19:44] great [19:45] do you have to log in to use it? that has stopped me in the past [19:45] Anurag, not that I know of... I just cut a pasted a smoke test that I set up for some students at RIT last semester. [19:46] o ok, I was wondering why it kept referring to an XO [19:46] satellit_, Yes, I think you need to be logged into LP [19:46] dfarning: that would be better if you did not have to...?more people would use it [19:46] like fedora smolt [19:47] Anurag, yes the exercis was set up as a first lecture/first lab so the students got familiarity with the xo and worked through problems together. [19:50] david, have people been using the USR launchpad page to report problems? [19:53] or was that page set up recently?