[15:39] <jelkner> good morning all
[15:40] <jelkner> irc.ubuntu.net is not resolving
[15:41] <jelkner> so i couldn't get on irc without changing to freenode
[15:42] <jelkner> that may be a problem for other ubuntu users who don't know what to do
[15:42] <jelkner> weird
[15:42] <jelkner> i don't know much about how dns works
[15:42] <jelkner> but host irc.ubuntu.net
[15:42] <jelkner> returns:
[15:42] <jelkner> ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
[15:42] <jelkner> socket.c:2486: REQUIRE((((sock) != ((void *)0)) && (((const isc__magic_t *)(sock))->magic == ((('I') << 24 | ('O') << 16 | ('i') << 8 | ('o')))))) failed.
[15:42] <jelkner> Aborted
[15:43] <jelkner> anyone know to whom i could report this?
[15:43] <jelkner> anyway, need to get ready for class
[15:43] <jelkner> we have a meeting here today at 1:40 pm
[15:53] <jelkner> is there anybody out there?
[15:53] <jelkner> MYabes would like to link his smoke test data to some where
[15:54] <jelkner> i told him we should have a wiki portal for that
[15:54] <jelkner> he is recording his data in a google doc
[15:54] <dfarning> good morn, just got done shoveling.
[15:54] <jelkner> publish as web page and link to wiki would be the easiest next step
[15:54] <jelkner> dfarning, where should michael link his results?
[15:55] <dfarning> jelkner, could he put it under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test on the wiki?
[15:56] <dfarning> MYabes, that way is it available for other to use and build on top of.
[15:57] <dfarning> 1 register for an account on the ubuntu wiki.
[15:58] <dfarning> 2.  type the name for the new page in your browser -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test/Results
[15:59] <dfarning> 3 click create new page.
[18:40] <jelkner> #startmeeting
[18:40] <meeting> Meeting started at 13:41 UTC. The chair is jelkner.
[18:40] <meeting> Commands Available: #TOPIC, #IDEA, #ACTION, #AGREED, #LINK
[18:40] <jelkner> OK, anyone here in addition to me for the sugarlabs dc meeting?
[18:41] <jelkner> michael is here also, but he is waiting for his computer to boot
[18:50] <jelkner> hi michael
[18:50] <MYabes> hey
[18:50] <jelkner> we are waiting for anurag
[18:50] <jelkner> he is on a public computer
[18:50] <jelkner> downloading chatzilla
[18:51] <MYabes> ok
[18:52] <jelkner> hi Anurag!
[18:53] <Anurag> hey sorry for the delay
[18:53] <jelkner> ok, looks like only you, MYabes and i
[18:53] <Anurag> was using a MAC
[18:53] <jelkner> that's ok
[18:53] <jelkner> let's get started
[18:53] <jelkner> 1st thing i wanted to do is get you MYabes schedule
[18:53] <Anurag> ok great
[18:53] <jelkner> MYabes, can you tell Anurag which days / times you are here?
[18:54] <MYabes> tues, thurs,fri 8:30-11:05, 12:30-2:40
[18:55] <jelkner> and mon, wed from 1:40 to 2:40
[18:55] <jelkner> hgrover is here mon-fri from 1:40 to 2:40 pm
[18:56] <jelkner> btw.  I'm really glad we have this channel auto logging now
[18:56] <jelkner> i was able to review the discussion here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/10/%23ubuntu-sugarteam.html
[18:56] <jelkner> to look up the meeting commands
[18:56] <jelkner> ok, Anurag, we need some guidance
[18:57] <jelkner> which i understand is your department ;-)
[18:57] <jelkner> MYabes has been working his way through the smoke test
[18:57] <jelkner> he has a google doc he has created with the results so far
[18:57] <jelkner> MYabes, can you please past the url here?
[18:58] <Anurag> are you using the smoke test that's on the sugar labs wiki?
[18:58] <jelkner> s/past/paste
[18:58] <Anurag> i think that was created last september
[18:59] <MYabes> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs
[18:59] <jelkner> so Anurag, MYabes is looking for guidance
[19:00] <jelkner> i can get more folks involved in testing,  but it only makes sense if we can contribute in a real way
[19:01] <jelkner> Anurag, what do you think?
[19:01] <Anurag> right, I think we need to ask David what specifically he wants to include on the smoke test
[19:02] <jelkner> Anurag, when do you work on this project?
[19:02] <jelkner> how many hours per week and which ones?
[19:02] <jelkner> i'd like to try to coordinate with you
[19:02] <Anurag> I usually work 10 hrs a week
[19:03] <Anurag> usually from 12-2 mon - thurs
[19:03] <jelkner> hmm...
[19:03] <Anurag> and then a couple hrs during the weekend
[19:03] <Anurag> have u seen the smoke test for the .84 release?
[19:03] <jelkner> given MYabes times, is there a possibility to schedule overlap times?
[19:03] <Anurag> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Smoke_test
[19:03] <jelkner> no
[19:03]  * jelkner looks
[19:04] <jelkner> ok, this is better
[19:04] <jelkner> do you want us to run this?
[19:05] <Anurag> yea, at least use it as a foundation
[19:05] <jelkner> let's get our wiki info down here
[19:05] <jelkner> to refer to later
[19:05] <jelkner> we should use the ubuntu resources
[19:05] <jelkner> so the ubuntu wiki
[19:05] <jelkner> do we have a home page on the wiki?
[19:06] <jelkner> Anurag, do you know if we have a home page on the wiki?
[19:07] <jelkner> like a start page
[19:07] <jelkner> from which we can link everything else?
[19:07] <Anurag> don't think we have a home page
[19:07] <Anurag> I can make one
[19:07] <Anurag> titled "Ubuntu Sugar Remix" ?
[19:08] <jelkner> yes
[19:08] <jelkner> let's confirm with dfarning
[19:08] <jelkner> but that sounds good to me
[19:08] <jelkner> UbuntuSugarRemix
[19:08] <jelkner> as a wiki word
[19:08] <jelkner> i can make it if you like
[19:08] <jelkner> but i didn't want to do it if it is already there
[19:08] <jelkner> let me look
[19:09] <Anurag> yea sure that would be great
[19:09] <Anurag> pretty sure it's not there already
[19:09] <jelkner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix
[19:09] <jelkner> it is there
[19:09] <jelkner> Anurag, do you have a launchpad account?
[19:10] <Anurag> yes
[19:10] <jelkner> cool
[19:10] <jelkner> so this is the portal page
[19:10] <jelkner> can you create a smoke test page?
[19:10] <Anurag> yea, as a subpage?
[19:10] <jelkner> yes
[19:11] <jelkner> SmokeTest
[19:11] <Anurag> yea I can do that
[19:11] <jelkner> cool
[19:11] <jelkner> then copy the smoke test from the .84 version you showed us
[19:11] <jelkner> and we can modify it to suit our needs
[19:11] <jelkner> sound like a plan?
[19:11] <Anurag> sounds good
[19:11] <jelkner> until recently, USR wouldn't load from gdm
[19:12] <jelkner> i checked yesterday and it did
[19:12] <jelkner> i have testing machines available
[19:12] <jelkner> so as soon as we have a good process
[19:12] <jelkner> MYabes can have at it
[19:12] <satellit_> hello I have been testing USR also here
[19:12] <jelkner> satellit_, awesome!
[19:12] <jelkner> let's get a test process on the wiki
[19:13] <jelkner> so we can all be reading from the same script
[19:13] <Anurag> is there a USR image accessible?
[19:13] <satellit_> I have VBox and VMworkstation here and several netbooks
[19:13] <jelkner> Anurag, what is your job description?
[19:13] <jelkner> what exactly are you tasked with for your 10 hours?
[19:14] <jelkner> i want to include that in my thinking on how we can work together
[19:14] <jelkner> satellit_, great
[19:14] <Anurag> caroline and I usually work together to set my objectives
[19:14] <hgrover> hello all
[19:14] <Anurag> but she wants me to spend a lot of my time this semester working with USR
[19:14] <jelkner> Anurag should i ask her then?
[19:14] <Anurag> and testing Blueberry
[19:14] <jelkner> ok
[19:15] <jelkner> if we could know your availability
[19:15] <jelkner> (and i'll ask her)
[19:15] <jelkner> then we can plan better
[19:15] <jelkner> can you be responsible for the smoke test?
[19:15] <Anurag> looks like this time would be the best since it works for all of us
[19:15] <jelkner> this time is great for our weekly meeting
[19:15] <Anurag> yes
[19:16] <jelkner> i'm not suggesting we change that
[19:16] <jelkner> i'm just talking more in general
[19:16] <satellit_> will USR work with http://schooltool.org/?
[19:16] <jelkner> satellit_, yes
[19:17] <jelkner> since USR runs on top of ubuntu
[19:17] <jelkner> and schooltool does too
[19:17] <Anurag> would you have to "sugarize" it first
[19:17] <jelkner> http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/install-toc.html
[19:17] <jelkner> Anurag, it is a web app
[19:17] <jelkner> so no
[19:18] <Anurag> o ok, then yea it should definitely work
[19:18] <jelkner> it runs as a service on localhost:7080
[19:18] <jelkner> after installing the debs
[19:19] <jelkner> ok, i have students
[19:19] <jelkner> i need to attend to
[19:20] <Anurag> ok
[19:20] <jelkner> Anurag, can you talk to MYabes and hgrover about what they should do this week?
[19:20] <jelkner> and then i'll check back in and close the meeting
[19:20] <Anurag> yea no problem
[19:20] <jelkner> so, we have a few goals:
[19:20] <jelkner> 1. get the smoke test up
[19:20] <jelkner> 2. start using it to test
[19:22] <jelkner> i'll send the minutes to dfarning and caroline
[19:22] <Anurag> ok great
[19:22] <jelkner> and see if there are other things that should be on the list.
[19:22] <hgrover> (the smoke test isn't still up?)
[19:22] <Anurag> so it looks like our times overlap 1:40- 2:40 on pretty much all week days
[19:23] <Anurag> no it's not up yet
[19:23] <hgrover> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test?
[19:23] <hgrover> is that just an unfinished version? sorry for being confused, i think i missed something =)
[19:25] <Anurag> oh I've never seen this page, looking over it right now, one sec
[19:26] <hgrover> yeah, i think it's in the process of being updated constantly
[19:26] <hgrover> we're basically trying to fill it up with our goals, which i'm sure jeff has told you about anurang?
[19:27] <Anurag> yea looks like david updated it yesterday
[19:27] <hgrover> alright
[19:27] <Anurag> now do you know if anyone has had a chance to run this smoke test on USR?
[19:28] <hgrover> i think that's what myabes is supposed to be doing, he just ran to the water fountain
[19:28] <hgrover> yeah, myabes ran through it and made a google doc about what worked and what didn't
[19:28] <hgrover> what was the link, michael?
[19:28] <Anurag> I saw the link
[19:28] <MYabes> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc63cfgj_11dzj9f7fs
[19:29] <hgrover> (i didn't =))
[19:29] <Anurag> Michael did you just basically try running a bunch of different activities?
[19:29] <Anurag> have you done any of the other tests on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test ?
[19:30] <satellit_> how are you doing smoke test? Virtual Box /CD/USB?
[19:31] <Anurag> Henry do you know?
[19:31] <hgrover> i don't, let me help him find out
[19:32] <Anurag> I'm assuming VM
[19:32] <hgrover> he actually installed karmic on his laptop, then installed USR from the ppa
[19:32] <MYabes> i just tried all of the activities on usr, to see if they worked or not
[19:32] <hgrover> so no VM craziness at all
[19:33] <satellit_> ovf import works well in sun Virtualbox
[19:34] <hgrover> I'm a little confused about the state of things.  Did we ever get a place where one could just download USR VDI's?
[19:34] <satellit_> http://people.sugarlabs.org/dfarning/  for DL of iso and ovf files (4required)
[19:35] <Anurag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSugarRemix/Test
[19:35] <hgrover> ah, awesome
[19:35] <satellit_> david builds them with script
[19:35] <Anurag> so I think we should create a spreadsheet that covers the different parameters on david's version of the smoke test
[19:37] <Anurag> and then come up with some kind of testing schedule
[19:37] <hgrover> yeah.  myabes has a good amount of time each day, a little bit of which i think was portioned to the smoke test (is that right, michael?)
[19:38] <MYabes> yes
[19:38] <hgrover> alright, awesome
[19:38] <hgrover> so as changes are made, michael can tell us what works and what doesn't, wherfe should this spreadsheet be though? a shared googledoc?
[19:38] <hgrover> where*
[19:39] <Anurag> yea just make it a shared google doc
[19:39] <hgrover> and it's 2:40, we have to go catch our bus >.<
[19:39] <Anurag> so we can all update it
[19:39] <hgrover> and alright, that sounds good
[19:39] <Anurag> alright i'll stay on until jeff gets back
[19:39] <hgrover> i can come back tomorrow at this time, if there's anything more to be discussed? alright
[19:39] <Anurag> sounds good jeff or I will probably send an email
[19:40] <MYabes> i have to go now, cya
[19:40] <jelkner> #endmeeting
[19:40] <meeting> Meeting finished at 14:42.
[19:40] <meeting> Logs available at http://me.etin.gs/ubuntu-sugarteam/ubuntu-sugarteam.log.20100216_1341.html
[19:41]  * dfarning read logs:)
[19:41] <satellit_> note: USR does not shut down correctly use terminal sudo shutdown -h now
[19:41] <Anurag> o ok
[19:42] <satellit_> otherwise it hangs if you use F3 dropdown "shutdown" and you cannot get to terminal
[19:42] <dfarning> satellit_, still  a know problem.  It won't get fixed until lucic developers settle on a startup/shutdown process.
[19:43] <satellit_> OK I wa just warning them of the way it is......: )
[19:44] <Anurag> david do you know if anyone has run through your smoke test yet?
[19:44] <dfarning> satellit_, there are hooks in the most recent iso so crashes get sent ot llaunchpd via arport.
[19:44] <satellit_> great
[19:45] <satellit_> do you have to log in to use it?  that has stopped me in the past
[19:45] <dfarning> Anurag, not that I know of... I just cut a pasted a smoke test that I set up for some students at RIT last semester.
[19:46] <Anurag> o ok, I was wondering why it kept referring to an XO
[19:46] <dfarning> satellit_, Yes, I think you need to be logged into LP
[19:46] <satellit_> dfarning: that would be better if you did not have to...?more people would use it
[19:46] <satellit_> like fedora smolt
[19:47] <dfarning> Anurag, yes the exercis was set up as a first lecture/first lab so the students got familiarity with the xo and worked through problems together.
[19:50] <Anurag> david, have people been using the USR launchpad page to report problems?
[19:53] <Anurag> or was that page set up recently?