[00:27] <ripps> oh please! someone backport this into the ati driver, kms xv is horrible right now. http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/2010-February/013827.html
[04:09] <bjsnider> does dh_installdocs normally look for a file called "faq" to install?
[04:13] <bjsnider> oh, wait. i see where it's getting these instructions
[04:45] <bjsnider> there's a guy in +1 that is using an nvidia card, doesn't have the nvidia or nouveau ddx driver running, but has working glxgears
[07:03] <RAOF> bjsnider: Define “working glxgears”.  glxgears should produce a picture with *any* DDX, and glxinfo should report direct rendering for pretty much any DDX, including VESA.
[07:08] <bryceh> RAOF, see on phoronix fedora has 3d on nouveau?
[07:09] <tjaalton> yes
[07:09] <bryceh> hi tjaalton, how goes?
[07:09] <tjaalton> but they have bskeggs so it's ok :)
[07:10] <tjaalton> bryceh: hey, pretty busy with life. two exams left and the damn thesis..
[07:11] <bryceh> tjaalton, plus all the kids... how do you do it?
[07:11] <bryceh> tjaalton, graduation coming soon?
[07:11] <tjaalton> and problems with nfsv4 which is holding back the thesis, but hopefully those are resolved soon
[07:12] <bryceh> nfsv4... my old life...
[07:12] <tjaalton> bryceh: the deadline is July 31st, but the thesis should be ready by the time lucid is released
[07:12] <tjaalton> and I haven't even started writing yet
[07:15] <RAOF> Urgh.
[07:15] <RAOF> bryceh: Yeah, tjaalton pointed me at dri
[07:16] <RAOF> Fedora's dri-drivers-experimental package, and I learnt just how awesome debian source packaging is :)
[07:17] <bryceh> hehe
[07:17] <RAOF> Versus “just throw it in the .spec file”.
[07:19] <tjaalton> bryceh: yeah, it's part of the new environment based on AD/krb5, and installs from altiris. quite a transition from full *nix-platform to one where "money is no object"
[07:19] <tjaalton> including an exchange cluster which has a TB of memory :P
[07:19] <bryceh> whoa
[07:19]  * bryceh shudders @ exchange
[07:19] <tjaalton> yeah, scalability and all that..
[07:20] <bryceh> my dad has been a total windows junkie, but this weekend he had me wipe his laptop and put ubuntu on it... and he's extremely happy
[07:21] <bryceh> I'd given him a netbook with ubuntu (one of those poulsbo-based ones) a while ago, so he knew what it was like
[07:21] <tjaalton> my parents have yet to join the computing world. they're a bit old for that though (~70y)
[07:21] <bryceh> his laptop is nvidia hardware, and I just set up -nv!  He was happy since he got video, flash, and all that working fine
[07:22] <bryceh> I thought maybe I'd hold off on putting him on -nvidia and move him to nouveau once lucid's out
[07:24] <tjaalton> good plan
[07:28] <bryceh> hi ara
[07:28] <ara> hey bryceh
[07:32] <RAOF> bryceh: The lack of proper 18bit dithering didn't bother him?  I guess he might not know anything different.
[07:32] <bryceh> I could see it, but he didn't seem to mind
[07:33] <bryceh> I figured, "Hey, he's happy, don't push it.  Expectations low means plenty of room to improve from."  ;-)
[07:33] <bryceh> RAOF, he was about ready to chuck the hardware and buy a new laptop, so this saved him a bundle
[07:34] <bryceh> really all he uses the computer for is playing farmville and watching hulu
[07:36] <RAOF> :)
[12:23] <jcristau> Sarvatt: managed to get efifb->i915 working by enabling CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING
[12:36] <BUGabundo>  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old   http://paste.ubuntu.com/377558/
[12:36] <BUGabundo> I booted and got a green screen and no TTY
[12:36] <BUGabundo> CAD on TTY1 rebooted , and it was all fine
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[14:54] <Sarvatt> hmm odd jcristau - CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING=y in the ubuntu kernels
[15:01] <BUGabundo> eh
[15:55] <Sarvatt> ahh crap, no wonder mesa stopped building, the gallium rules file I was keeping around got overwritten by the karmic rules file 
[15:56] <BUGabundo> bah
[15:56] <BUGabundo> so that's why I have no 3D ?
[15:59] <Sarvatt> yep
[16:00] <Sarvatt> now the nouveau api is completely screwed, not sure nouveau will build against this older libdrm
[16:02] <BUGabundo> err
[16:02] <BUGabundo> would that also explain my fail to boot, I pasted earlier ?
[16:08] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: Maximum number of clients reachedkmail: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[16:08] <BUGabundo> I'm having a serious problem launching new windows after a few hours
[16:08] <BUGabundo> and have to reboot
[16:10] <Sarvatt> what the heck do you have using 512 clients?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> how do i check how many I have?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> cause I know I don't 
[16:11] <BUGabundo> one gnome terminal, one chromium, two pidgin, one gwibber
[16:11] <BUGabundo> that's all windows I have opened
[16:12] <BUGabundo> $ ps auxw | wc -l
[16:12] <BUGabundo> 199
[17:49] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: fresh boot, while aptitude upgrading http://paste.ubuntu.com/377756/
[17:50] <BUGabundo> ======= Backtrace: =========
[17:50] <BUGabundo> /lib/libc.so.6(+0x76a66)[0x7fcf5d23ba66]
[17:54] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: do you think it's related to nouveau? :)
[17:54] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: it was the only update (mesa) I got on this reboot
[17:54] <BUGabundo>  17:54:23 up 10 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.61, 0.52
[17:55] <BUGabundo> I want to grab a snack, close the lit of my laptop , set to turn off screen only), when I came back, I couldn't interact with it, everything seemed to work, other then the LCD
[17:56] <BUGabundo> so I jumped to TTY1 blingly and pressed CAD, fsck the disks, rebooted, aptitude upgrade X stuff, and got that
[17:56] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I had the same bug
[17:56] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: check dmesg
[17:56] <kklimonda> there should be something around the time lcd shut down for good
[17:57] <BUGabundo> $ dmesg | pastebinit 
[17:57] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/377760/
[17:57] <BUGabundo> nothing usefull there
[17:57] <BUGabundo> oh on past boot
[17:58] <kklimonda> not even boot but the whole last session :)
[19:17] <pgraner> bryceh: mind if I add a multi-head column to the nouveau testing wiki?
[19:18] <bryceh> pgraner, ok
[19:19] <bryceh> pgraner, better make it 'dual-head' for clarification
[19:19] <pgraner> bryceh: I have a few multi-head cards and I'm finding nouveau is failing on the higher end ones
[19:19] <pgraner> bryceh: ack
[19:19] <bryceh> pgraner, since -nvidia can do >2 heads, but -nv doesn't
[19:20] <pgraner> bryceh: wildo
[19:22] <Sarvatt> alot of complication with nouveau lately like I expected, they completely broke libdrm so it needs a nouveau module that wont be upstream until 2.6.34 so if we did a git snapshot that libdrm or a release if they do one soon it wouldnt work with our lbm-nouveau now
[19:32] <Sarvatt> ugh looks like mesa requires that new libdrm-nouveau1 now as well so I can't skirt around it
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