[00:13] <dbdii407> Anyone know where i can download the theme from the previous xUbuntu (not the 9.10 current one)?
[01:24] <titan_ark> hey, anyone able to get the OOo 3.2?
[01:26] <likemindead> I haven't tried yet, but I've seen some tutorials on how to install.
[01:30] <titan_ark> likemindead, adding the ppa doesnt work
[01:30] <titan_ark> i get errors
[01:31] <likemindead> Bummer. Does OOo offer a .deb at their site?
[01:31] <likemindead> I've used them successfully in the past.
[01:32] <titan_ark> yes i did find that but its not a single deb package on DL. its multiple :P
[01:32] <titan_ark> and then there is this issue of updates
[01:32] <likemindead> Weird. And Lame.
[01:33] <titan_ark> so i wanted to add the package
[01:33] <titan_ark> yeah
[01:47] <charlie-tca> dbdii407: try here - http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/9.04%20Jaunty/GTK%20theme/MurrinaXubuntu-0.2.3.tar.gz
[01:47] <titan_ark> hey charlie-tca how are you doing?
[01:48] <charlie-tca> I'm still going...
[01:49] <titan_ark> :)
[01:49] <titan_ark> could i bug you with a few queries?
[01:50] <dbdii407> charlie-tca, Ah. Well. It is the new theme. :/
[01:50] <dbdii407> well
[01:57] <dbdii407> I was kinda looking for the white one, specifically. Sorry. :(
[02:02] <charlie-tca> bug away, if you want
[02:03] <charlie-tca> dbdii407: the link I gave you? Should be same colors with the mouse superimposed
[02:03] <charlie-tca> We haven't had a white one that I know of
[02:03] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/377289/ this is the result of fdisk -l. i want to merge the 9 Gig partition with my current 10 gig ext4
[02:05] <charlie-tca> If they are next to each other, you can do it with the live cd, and using gpart under Applications -> System
[02:06] <charlie-tca> dbdii407: Go here and look through all of them, they are not all separated like it should be
[02:06] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork#Release%20Artwork
[02:08] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, that is the details, and this is another: http://imagebin.ca/view/ZESIxY.html
[02:08] <titan_ark> i want to use the 9.7 GB unallocated partition
[02:10] <charlie-tca> So the 9,7 is not part of a logical partition yet. You should be able to extend the logical partition with the 1.0 swap space and 10GB filesystem with the 9.7GB, then extend the 10GB partition by that much. It will take an hour or two
[02:12] <charlie-tca> As long as that 9.7GB is not allocated, it should be usable anywhere. If it was allocated, you would have to move the Recovery partition to use it
[02:12] <charlie-tca> The 9.7 is not actually a partition, it is unused space on the hard drive
[02:13] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, yes, actually i had split it out of the partition and deleted it while installing ubuntu. dint realise the installation itself would need 7 gigs :P
[02:13] <charlie-tca> You will have to add it to the 11GB Extended first
[02:13] <charlie-tca> Why does it need it need 7GB to install?
[02:13] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu uses 2.8GB on the drive
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu uses about 1.6GB
[02:14] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, i dunno, with basic install and not much extra packages it gives me just ~2 gigs of free space
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Must be the package cache and tmp files, then
[02:15] <titan_ark> /dev/sda6             9.4G  7.6G  1.4G  85% /
[02:15] <charlie-tca> But you can add the 9.7GB to the 11GB Extended, then expand the 10GB Filesystem to 19.7 or close to it
[02:16] <titan_ark> i was on kde before. and felt it was bloated so i purged all packages and got to pure gnome which is still the same
[02:16] <charlie-tca> Yup. KDE and Gnome both use a lot of space
[02:16] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, is it a good and safe way to do it?
[02:16] <titan_ark> sigh
[02:17] <charlie-tca> I Think so, but no guarantees. It could kill the 10GB system
[02:17] <titan_ark> :O
[02:18] <charlie-tca> why aren't you using a separate /home partition?
[02:18] <titan_ark> that means i should back up my data before trying this
[02:18] <charlie-tca> yup, back up first
[02:18] <titan_ark> i wasnt aware of how i should do it. i was following steps i had noted down a long time back when i made my first xubuntu install
[02:19] <charlie-tca> How much of that 10GB is /home?
[02:19] <titan_ark> how do i check that?
[02:19] <charlie-tca> I am betting about 5GB
[02:20] <charlie-tca> right click on /home and look at properties
[02:20] <titan_ark> says, contents: 560 items, totalling 1.0 GB
[02:21] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[02:21] <charlie-tca> Well, less to back up, I guess
[02:21] <titan_ark> weird?
[02:25] <titan_ark> okay data backed up. just 200 MB :P
[02:25] <titan_ark> so in gparted do i make it a new partition?
[02:26] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, ?
[02:28] <charlie-tca> no, you expand the 11GB extended partition to 20.7
[02:29] <charlie-tca> Then expand the logical partition that is 10GB to 19.7
[02:29] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, but how do i do that? i dont see any options for that
[02:30] <charlie-tca> Okay, make sure you are on that drive
[02:30] <charlie-tca> Read under 'file System' it says "extended"
[02:30] <titan_ark> yes
[02:31] <charlie-tca> hilite it, and click resize/move
[02:31] <charlie-tca> It can not be mounted and nothing in it can be mounted
[02:31] <titan_ark> i cant do it
[02:31] <titan_ark> does not give me the option
[02:31] <charlie-tca> Anything got keys by it?
[02:32] <titan_ark> yes all three, i mean the extended and in it the tabbed swap and ext4
[02:33] <charlie-tca> Anything with keys is mounted, so right click the partitions below it and click unmount. After they are unmounted, you unmount the extended partition. Then you can resize it
[02:33] <charlie-tca> You have to unmount the two partitions in it before you can unmount the extended
[02:34] <titan_ark> i cant unmount swap, it only allows me to "swapoff"
[02:34] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:34] <charlie-tca> That is the same thing
[02:36] <titan_ark> swap unmounted, but cant unmount the ext4, error says something else is mounted, but i checked and nothing is
[02:36] <charlie-tca> There is a lot of built in safety you are undoing when you do these things
[02:36] <charlie-tca> Are you on the live cd?
[02:36] <titan_ark> no
[02:36] <titan_ark> i have installed it
[02:36] <titan_ark> live cd is not in
[02:36] <charlie-tca> So, what you are using to do this might be using the swap file, and won't release it
[02:37] <titan_ark> oh, so what do i do now?
[02:37] <charlie-tca> There isn't any other mounted partitions, right?
[02:37] <titan_ark> no none
[02:37] <titan_ark> no keys seen
[02:37] <charlie-tca> Are you running through windows?
[02:38] <titan_ark> through windows? no this is a dual boot and i am on linux
[02:38] <charlie-tca> no more keys, right click the swap partition and see if it has an unmount now
[02:39] <titan_ark> i unmounted swap, but the ext4 and extended have the keys and i cant unmount them
[02:39] <charlie-tca> Then they are in use now. You will need to boot the live cd and do this from it
[02:40] <titan_ark> oh okay
[02:40] <charlie-tca> Same procedure,
[02:40] <titan_ark> i do not have a gnome ubuntu disk i have kde. will it work? or will a 9.04 gnome disk work?
[02:40] <charlie-tca> after unmounting, then resize the extended partition, then resize the 10GB
[02:40] <charlie-tca> kde doesn't have gparted, and 9.04 will screw up the ext4 partition
[02:41] <titan_ark> :D
[02:41] <titan_ark> lol
[02:41] <charlie-tca> :-(
[02:41] <titan_ark> how screwed can i get
[02:41] <charlie-tca> The good news is nothing is changed yet!
[02:41] <titan_ark> oops. pardon the language
[02:41] <titan_ark> so nothing can be done now?
[02:42] <titan_ark> unless i get a live disc?
[02:42] <charlie-tca> Apparently, you can get screwed pretty bad right now.
[02:42] <titan_ark> hmmm
[02:42] <charlie-tca> Unless you want problems, nothing to do without a live cd
[02:42] <titan_ark> aha
[02:42] <charlie-tca> and it has to have gnome on it, since gpart is part of gnome
[02:43] <charlie-tca> I don't know how kde partitioner works, but from what I hear, it is not the same to use
[02:43] <titan_ark> then i will have to be happy with no disc space :( since i do not have a blank disc to burn ubuntu
[02:43] <titan_ark> hmm okay
[02:43] <titan_ark> id rather not play with it then
[02:43] <charlie-tca> At least we tried
[02:44] <titan_ark> yeah :)
[02:44] <titan_ark> so you were mentioning why i do not have home as a partition. i dint quite get that?
[02:44] <charlie-tca> You must be running the install that is in the 10gb partition
[02:45] <titan_ark> if i do a fresh install sometime later what and how should i do it?
[02:45] <charlie-tca> If the /home is a separate partition, you can transfer it to the new installation easy. Create three partitions, 1 is /, 1 is swap, 1 is /home
[02:46] <charlie-tca> that will create your users in /home. Then to upgrade, you do not format /home, you tell it to keep it
[02:46] <charlie-tca> It will reinstall the system, but your data is still in /home after the installation gets done
[02:46] <titan_ark> hmmm still a bit confused.
[02:46] <titan_ark> oh okay
[02:46] <titan_ark> got that
[02:47] <titan_ark> and it should be in that order?
[02:47] <charlie-tca> When you have a lot of data, it is faster
[02:47] <titan_ark> also, how much space should i give the root / and home?
[02:47] <titan_ark> what ratio i mean?
[02:47] <charlie-tca> That is just the order I use. Root for me is normally 10gb, /home is about 25GB
[02:48] <charlie-tca> I have done it using 4GB for / and 6GB for /home
[02:48] <charlie-tca> I run two 400GB hard drives here, so I have a little extra drive space
[02:49] <titan_ark> ah okay
[02:49] <titan_ark> got it
[02:49] <titan_ark> thx a bunch
[02:49] <titan_ark> one more query on resizing.
[02:49] <charlie-tca> I reinstall every release, too. Using the empty drive, I can put the new development release on, and leave the old drive alone for 5 months
[02:50] <charlie-tca> go
[02:50] <titan_ark> if i was to selct to resize the extended partition, would i get to select to increase it by selecting the unused space?
[02:50] <titan_ark> aha thats a great idea!
[02:52] <charlie-tca> yes, that is what you are going to do
[02:52] <charlie-tca> no, rather. You select to resize the extended partition, it will ask what size you want to make it
[02:53] <charlie-tca> You should be able to make it as big as the existing size + unallocated space
[02:53] <titan_ark> okay
[02:54] <titan_ark> cos i was fearing it should not select space out of my existing partitions, lest it eats part of my windows or recovery drives
[02:54] <charlie-tca> It will not allow you to use any allocated space to expand the extended partition
[02:55] <titan_ark> aha okay
[02:56] <charlie-tca> oh, and it is scary the first time, and the second time, and the third time, and...you do it
[02:56] <titan_ark> and can i have multiple installs also? cos after the new release i am sure it will have bugs as i suffered with 9.04. so can i have 9.10 and 10.04 then?
[02:57] <titan_ark> :D yeah i knw
[02:57] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:57] <titan_ark> i used to fear a linux install and now i installed 3 linux boots on my friends PCs in 2 days
[02:57] <charlie-tca> As long as you have a partition free to install in, you can have many installs. I have 8 installations on two 40gb drives in another system.
[02:57] <titan_ark> okay
[02:57] <charlie-tca> Yeah, it gets easier as you go
[02:58] <charlie-tca> I have those two drives in one system, and I partition them into 10GB partitions
[02:58] <titan_ark> and later i can delete one of the partitions and merge it with the one i want?
[02:58] <titan_ark> cool
[02:58] <charlie-tca> You can only merge it if it is next to the one to merge into
[02:59] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, you have to move the windows stuff around, and I don't know what that does to it
[02:59] <charlie-tca> And I can't remember if the UUID changed when I resized, but I don't think it did
[02:59] <titan_ark> oooh okay
[03:00] <charlie-tca> If it does, you have to go into /dev/disk-by-uuid and find your partition, copy the uuid, and change it in fstab
[03:00] <titan_ark> ah damn risky!
[03:01] <charlie-tca> Ah, what's a little risk? LIfe is too tame sometimes, anyway, right?
[03:01] <titan_ark> so i should delete all my partitions merge them in windows and then create a single extended partition then create other partitions for all installs?
[03:02] <titan_ark> the risk is if i screw up the recovery partition then i am doomed cos il never get a win 7 install again :D
[03:02] <charlie-tca> I have no idea. I don't like touching windows anything...
[03:02] <titan_ark> :D okay
[03:02] <charlie-tca> When vista came out, I quit working on all windows systems
[03:03] <titan_ark> so how would you suggest creating say a 50 gig extended partition and then creating partitions out of it for all my linux use?
[03:04] <charlie-tca> It would simplify things for you, I think, but you can't count on being able to resize the partitions always.
[03:04] <titan_ark> :D i would like to quit windows too but there always comes a time when i need windows :(
[03:05] <titan_ark> yeah, but i now realise i should split a partition and then carve out drives out of it for use rather than the way i have done now
[03:06] <charlie-tca> It would be easier :-)
[03:06] <charlie-tca> But the experience pays off in the long run, too.
[03:06] <titan_ark> so i need to figure out how to do it =)
[03:06] <titan_ark> :D yeah
[03:06] <titan_ark> i wanted to know if i can use a remote login tool also on linux?
[03:07] <charlie-tca> sure
[03:07] <titan_ark> i want to be able to log in to my windows and linux boxes at home. i currently use logmein on windows
[03:07] <charlie-tca> you can set up vpn to allow remote logins, that is how a lot of servers are maintained
[03:07] <charlie-tca> You could use putty to ssh into the linux boxes from windows
[03:08] <titan_ark> hmmm i do use putty+vnc to access my unix system in school
[03:08] <titan_ark> but i would need to set up a server for it on the box i want to access right?
[03:09] <charlie-tca> yeah. Usually the school has to set it up on their end, so you can ssh into it
[03:10] <charlie-tca> here, take a look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[03:10] <titan_ark> yup i use ssh and then xvnc4viewer for that
[03:11] <titan_ark> i want to be able to use my box at home so that i can manage it for my parents when certain issues come up. they arent very comfy with PCs
[03:11] <titan_ark> and i want to get them to use linux :)
[03:12] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced
[03:12] <charlie-tca> And you know you can view other pages by taking off the last part of the page, right?
[03:12] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ssh/OpenSSH
[03:13] <titan_ark> cool i shall read thro them
[03:13] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[03:13] <titan_ark> logmein for windows is pretty amazing. you just need to install the tool on the host PC and then log in from the logmein website
[03:14] <charlie-tca> I screwed the second one up. ssh has to be caps - SSH
[03:14] <charlie-tca> Is it secure, though?
[03:14] <titan_ark> so they say
[03:14] <titan_ark> but would i get admin rights via ssh?
[03:14] <titan_ark> to install stuff?
[03:14] <charlie-tca> you ssh in and then use sudo
[03:14] <titan_ark> okay
[03:15] <titan_ark> nice
[03:16] <titan_ark> any luck with installing OOo 3.2?
[03:16] <titan_ark> i am unable to get that going
[03:19] <charlie-tca> You are entering a terminal, usually, with ssh
[03:19] <charlie-tca> I do it back and forth on my systems often, since I only have two monitors but 5 systems running at times
[03:20] <titan_ark> ah okay
[03:20] <titan_ark> yes i have noticed that so i would need to run vnc after ssh?
[03:20] <titan_ark> if i want a gui?
[03:22] <charlie-tca> I don't really know. I gave up having gui when I started testing, since I have to set everything up all over again every 2-3 months.
[03:23] <charlie-tca> Everytime I reinstall, my setups have to be redone.
[03:23] <titan_ark> hmm okay
[03:23] <charlie-tca> sorry
[03:24] <titan_ark> no problem :)
[03:24] <titan_ark> you have been a huge help as always
[03:24] <titan_ark> right from my 1st linux boot =)
[03:26] <charlie-tca> Okay, I got to leave now. Good luck and see you later.
[03:27] <titan_ark> thanks Charlie, cya
[05:22] <ron_o> crazy shit. Even on my linux box a virus tried to install on FF and I can't open up FF again without it continuing.
[05:23] <ron_o> I had to close FF to try to stop it from installing through WINE installer
[05:25] <ron_o> I got FF back running. Creepy stuff man. How anyone can use Windows is beyond me.
[05:25] <Balsaq> Did you say Windblows?
[05:25] <ron_o> actually, I might even just uninstall WINE just in case some virus can use it as a back door.
[05:26] <ron_o> Balsaq, you missed my earlier messages.
[05:26] <ron_o> <ron_o> crazy shit. Even on my linux box a virus tried to install on FF and I can't open up FF again without it continuing.
[05:26] <ron_o> <ron_o> I had to close FF to try to stop it from installing through WINE installer
[05:26] <Balsaq> ahhh..well good morning
[05:27] <Balsaq> and good morning to all the world class developers and software engineers who reside here in the Land of Xubuntu...
[05:37] <Balsaq> hmmm, i would like to know more about this linux/virus thing? i have gone and many websites that i deem unsafe and never get any virus with xubuntu?
[06:21] <ron_o> Balsaq, there are no linux viruses that I am aware of. But with FF, going to an unsafe website and running javascript/java/flash, somehow it took over my browser and tried to install an .exe... surely it was a virus.
[06:22] <ron_o> the popup claimed it was searching for malware on my computer and then miraculously it found some and tried to install an application to get rid of them.
[06:24] <ron_o> I am just wondering if a Windows virus or easier yet some other malware like a Trojan can get on my computer system via WINE.
[07:05] <Balsaq> can you delete it in terminal?
[07:06] <Balsaq> or cmd prompt
[08:20] <RecycleCorn>  It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!  No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right.  They never will!  The same goes for New Orleans!  Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed.  What have the niggers in
[08:20] <RecycleCorn> New Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[09:18] <joker_> hello, i'm trying xubuntu, and i like it. Now i try the last 2 days to get up a RAID1 with LVM2... my xubuntu version 9.10, my probelm are now, that i cant boot the kernel. in get the error from initramfs that he cant find /dev/mapper/mdvg-rootlv. mdadm is is in initramfs, but if i would like to work with mdadm i get a permession denied. lvm2 isnt on initramfs. now my question how i can fix ist?
[09:19] <joker_> i try apt-get remove linux-image* --purge and than i instal it again -> apt-get install linux-generic
[09:19] <joker_> but the same.
[09:45] <onaogh> how do i remove entries from applications menu ??
[09:45] <onaogh> in xubuntu
[10:47] <jarnos> From xfce4-power-manager: An application is currently disabling the automatic sleep, doing this action now may damage the working state of this application, are you sure you want to suspend the system?
[10:48] <jarnos> That dialog box appeared when I tried to suspend computer. Which application does it mean?
[10:48] <mr_pouit> package manager?
[10:48] <eXpl0i7> disable all running programs
[10:51] <jarnos> I don't see any package manager and I tried closing most of programs. (All from task bar and all except the power manager and network manager from the tray, but no help.
[10:51] <jarnos> )
[10:53] <eXpl0i7> go to system monitor -> processes
[10:54] <eXpl0i7> and see processes
[10:54] <jarnos> eXpl0i7: there are many. restarting the power manager helped.
[10:55] <eXpl0i7> :D
[10:56] <jarnos> Btw. there is this Information menu item in right-click menu of the tray icon of the power manager. It opens a window, but I can't close it. Even restarting the power manager did not help.
[15:10] <renata_> hello, how to get xubuntu karmic to show my audio-CD info(artist, track name, album). I only see track1, track2 etc on vlc or exaile. thanks.
[15:22] <System-7> Hello. I seem to have somehow deleted the "Places" menu, even from the "Add New Items" window... how can I reinstall it?
[15:24] <Sysi> it should be there if you didn't use synaptic or apt, but maybe on other name
[15:25] <System-7> it is definitely not there.
[15:26] <mr_pouit> xfce4-places-plugin
[15:27] <System-7> Ah you mean in synaptic...hold on...
[15:27] <System-7> ok, yes, it is in synaptic, thank you :)
[15:40] <System-7> Hmmm, for some reason clicking on the links in the Places menu doesn't open them?
[15:42] <System-7> I click them, it looks like it's thinking, but nothing happens
[15:43] <System-7> Also, it opens a window called "thunar" in the task panel, but it closes after a bit
[15:47] <System-7> Is there any way to just replace Thunar with Nautilus?
[15:50] <eXpl0i7> maybe sudo apt-get install nautilus
[15:50] <bittin> http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/2010-02-16-164235_1600x1200_scrot.png (my new found love <3)
[15:50] <eXpl0i7> but not sure
[15:51] <System-7> I already have it installed, but my attempts any any attempts I've read about online so far seem to end in failure... like XFCE just won't accept any manager but thunar.
[15:52] <eXpl0i7> alt+f2
[15:52] <eXpl0i7> nautilus
[15:52] <System-7> Er sure, but that isn't replacing it...
[15:52] <System-7> And I think I'd want nautilus --no-desktop
[15:53]  * eXpl0i7 googleing...
[15:53] <eXpl0i7> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-98692.html
[15:54] <System-7> I've read maybe 10 different articles about it, most suggest replacing the thunar symlink with one to nautilus, but that just creates a big mess.
[15:54] <eXpl0i7> System-7:
[15:54] <eXpl0i7> go to link
[15:55] <eXpl0i7> :)
[15:55]  * System-7 is reading...
[15:55] <eXpl0i7> :D
[16:00] <System-7> hmm, the articles definately outdated, the menu format has changed entirely
[16:01] <eXpl0i7> ...
[16:02] <knome> System-7, applications -> settings -> preferred applications -> tab "utilities"
[16:03] <System-7> Which contains an option for the terminal which helps how...?
[16:04] <knome> System-7, which xubuntu version you are running?
[16:04] <System-7> 9.04. Originally it was Ubuntu, then switched to XFCE
[16:04] <knome> System-7, then it's you who is outdated :P
[16:04] <eXpl0i7> System-7: try this http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1081044
[16:05] <System-7> Yeah, that's one of the articles I was referring to.
[16:05] <eXpl0i7> omg
[16:05] <eXpl0i7> install ubuntu
[16:05] <eXpl0i7> xD
[16:07] <eXpl0i7> i don't know why you installing nautilus
[16:07] <eXpl0i7> thunar is good
[16:07] <eXpl0i7> for me
[16:07] <System-7> The reason I switched to XFCE was because Ubuntu was too heavy on my laptop for some reason...nvm, lol, I give up. Thunar it is
[16:07] <eXpl0i7> ...
[16:07] <eXpl0i7> lol
[16:08] <knome> System-7, add the following rows into ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list:
[16:08] <knome> System-7, inode/directory=Nautilus.desktop
[16:08] <knome> System-7, x-directory/normal=Nautilus.desktop
[16:09] <knome> System-7, and if you don't want nautilus to take over your desktop, edit the Nautilus.desktop file to run 'nautilus --no-desktop' rather than 'nautilus'
[16:13] <System-7> Didn't seem to do anything besides remove my "Places" menu again :P
[16:20] <System-7> eh, clearly XFCE is written too much around Thunar to change it without screwing things up, so I'm just giving up on it :)
[16:20] <andrius_> hello, i have just installed xubuntu and what it is, that i cannot move or do anything with any window i load. i mean iḿ using xirc now, so i can move anywere, i can where is even nothing like ¨x¨ in windows.
[16:20] <System-7> You mean no window decorations?
[16:20] <andrius_> it just stands in a top left corner and thats it:) maybe anyone can help me with that ?
[16:21] <System-7> Your window manager isn't starting.
[16:22] <andrius_> i see, so maybe you know how to solve it ?
[16:22] <System-7> When you login, are you starting into XFCE or the failsafe?
[16:22] <andrius_> xfce
[16:23] <System-7> Just to check, log out, and at the login screen, click "Session" and choose XFCE
[16:24] <andrius_> thnx, i´l give it a try
[16:36] <andrius_> hey
[16:38] <andrius_> ok, so it's xfce for sure. but somehow it shows č options iof chossing xfce sessions, i tried the other one, instead of this one, sio it dowesn't show me anything at all
[16:38] <andrius_> what it is, any window doesnt show the top line, where you can minizme, close etc the window
[16:39] <andrius_> i had zenwalk distribution earlyer, may it have anything to do with it ?
[16:41] <knome> andrius_, xfce works with one of the sessions? use that session then.
[16:50] <andrius_> anyone?
[16:51] <knome> anyone what?
[16:51] <andrius_> well i wrote about a problem few minutes ago
[16:52] <knome> and i replied you
[16:52] <knome> "xfce works with one of the sessions? use that session then."
[16:54] <andrius_> sorry i haven´t seen that. well xfce works, it loads and iḿ using it at the moment.
[16:54] <knome> so what's the problem?
[16:56] <andrius_> the problem is that for some reason where is simply no top line, iḿ not sure how it is called, basicly the one on top of every window. the one with wich help you can close, minize, maximize the window. so i can move any window, anywhere
[16:56] <andrius_> if i press the show desctop button, it doesnt work aswell
[16:56] <knome> andrius_, you don't have xfwm4 running. press alt+f2 and run it (command = xfwm4)
[16:59] <andrius_> thanks, now i can minimze it by clicking on panel item. but still i can´t move the window or etc.
[17:01] <andrius_> o, sorry, seems it was just with xchat. i started the firefox and everything is ok w/ it
[17:01] <andrius_> thanks again for your help
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[19:12] <bonehead> is it possible to run compiz effects on xfce ?
[19:13] <Sysi> yes, but i only managed to do that with emerald
[19:13]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[19:13] <Sysi> someones have succeeded with xfwm (default) also
[19:26] <knome> i still don't see the reason running xfce and then wanting compiz. go for gnome, since you probably can run it smoothly in the side if you can run compiz.
[19:27] <Sysi> it's hard to get some things with gnome, but with compiz it's easier
[20:38] <bonehead> knome: I am only looking for one compiz feature. i cant remember what its called but when you put the mouse in the corner all the open windows organize so you can click which one you want to view
[20:38] <Sysi> alt + tab isn't enough?
[20:45] <knome> bonehead, you are still installing complete compiz, even if you only use one feature.
[20:48] <bonehead> knome: yeah i know. composting can be a hog.
[20:55] <oldtopman> hello all
[20:56] <oldtopman> How do I record sound through my midi piano
[20:56] <knome> !midi | oldtopman
[20:56] <ubottu> oldtopman: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[20:56] <knome> that was a bit different help url seemingly...
[20:56] <knome> oldtopman, have you searched the forums?
[20:56] <oldtopman> Yes I have
[20:57] <knome> okay.
[20:57] <oldtopman> They tell how to play midi files but I want to record from my piano to a midi/ whatever file
[20:57] <knome> you could also ask #ubuntu as this is not a xubuntu-specific issue
[20:57] <knome> i don't know about recording from midi port
[20:58] <oldtopman> knome, is this irc for xubuntu specific problems only
[20:59] <knome> this is the xubuntu channel, and you can get help for especially xubuntu specific problems
[20:59] <knome> asking questions about ubuntu in general is not prohibited either
[20:59] <knome> but you probably get better results when asking from #ubuntu, since there's way more people
[21:00] <oldtopman> alright thanks I will
[21:00] <Moon_Doggy> how do i change the dpi setting
[21:00] <Moon_Doggy> for my screen
[21:01] <knome> do you mean the resolution?
[21:02] <Moon_Doggy> knome, no
[21:02] <knome> for the dpi setting then, go to applications -> settings -> appearance. see the tab fonts to set custom dpi
[21:05] <Moon_Doggy> ty
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