| ryanakca | seele: I have an encrypted HD in my netbook, performance isn't too bad, takes two or three seconds for a program to open, but nothing awful. | 00:10 |
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| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: ping | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: pong | 00:12 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: just uploaded to revu the fixed kx11grab package :) | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | nice | 00:12 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: should be a ok now :) | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | k, will re-revu once the page updates | 00:13 |
| _Groo_ | hmmm transformers are on FX... | 00:13 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: thanks :) | 00:13 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: oh, I forgot to mention that using kde.mk also means adding a build-depend on pkg-kde-tools, sorry | 00:17 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: arrrrrrrghhhhhhh | 00:17 |
| JontheEchidna | sorry :( | 00:17 |
| _Groo_ | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7855 | 00:17 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: :D reuploading.. | 00:17 |
| _Groo_ | bad JontheEchidna bad! | 00:17 |
| Lex79 | I'm merging pkg-kde-tools btw :) if we want it | 00:18 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: oh, and there are still a few sentences that don't begin with a capitalized letter in the long description | 00:18 |
| _Groo_ | done and reuploaded | 00:18 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: where? only "This" is capitalized | 00:19 |
| _Groo_ | ffmpeg and x11 are the names.. i need to lowercase those too? | 00:19 |
| JontheEchidna | "it sends the generated..." | 00:19 |
| JontheEchidna | that needs to be uppercase since it's the start of a new sentence | 00:20 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: argh i understood the exact opposite XD | 00:20 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 00:20 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: english is not my native language :D | 00:20 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: fixing | 00:20 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: oh, and I think the upstream author's copyright date still needs to be bumped to 2007-2009 | 00:20 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise looks good | 00:20 |
| _Groo_ | triuploade | 00:21 |
| _Groo_ | uploaded* | 00:21 |
| JontheEchidna | ;) | 00:21 |
| * _Groo_ cries | 00:21 | |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: from Copyright 2009 Juergen Heinemann to Copyright 2007-2009 Juergen Heinemann? | 00:22 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: yes | 00:22 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: anything else? (_Groo_ is getting smarter) | 00:23 |
| JontheEchidna | it's tucked away in a file or two, but grep found it ;-) | 00:23 |
| JontheEchidna | _Groo_: that's all I saw | 00:23 |
| _Groo_ | JontheEchidna: done :) | 00:24 |
| JontheEchidna | cool, I'll add my ack when it appears. Then the apachelogger can come down off of Mount Olympus to use his mighty Thor hammer to give a second revu :D | 00:25 |
| Lex79 | lol | 00:25 |
| * _Groo_ thinks apachelogger is more the loki type... | 00:26 | |
| _Groo_ | funny and cruel :D | 00:27 |
| * _Groo_ gazes around to see if Nightrose is sleeping... | 00:27 | |
| _Groo_ | all clear :D | 00:27 |
| JontheEchidna | "Loki assists the gods, and sometimes causes problems for them." haha | 00:28 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: pkg-kde-tools 0.6.4 https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 00:42 |
| Lex79 | oh, typo in changelog Mrg instead of Merge :( | 00:43 |
| Riddell | Lex79: e-mail me, I'll get it tomorrow | 00:45 |
| Lex79 | ok | 00:45 |
| ryanakca | Waisketef92 | 01:24 |
| * ryanakca curses, runs passwd and thanks himself for using a different password on every site. | 01:27 | |
| * ryanakca has also just learned that he should wait for his screen to turn on before typing in his password to what should be a locked screen :P | 01:27 | |
| JontheEchidna | so glad that's never happened to me^ | 01:28 |
| JontheEchidna | what upstream packages their .tar.gz in a .tar.bz2? O_o | 01:39 |
| JontheEchidna | downright deceitful v.v | 01:39 |
| JontheEchidna | just go with tar.bz2 in the first place, and everybody wins... | 01:40 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: ack please bug #522975 | 01:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522975 in kanyremote "Please sync kanyremote 5.11.2-1 with Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522975 | 01:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: ack'd | 01:44 |
| Lex79 | thx | 01:45 |
| * _Groo_ starts shooting dictionary brute force in every server ryanakca as a user, guessing what all know, that we only use 2 or 3 "root" passwds, and variations of those | 01:48 | |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, I've never seen an upstream switch to autohell when they port to Qt4 either | 01:50 |
| * JontheEchidna cries | 01:50 | |
| JontheEchidna | they had been using CMake too :( | 01:50 |
| Sput | whoa that is dense. | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | wait, this might be the wrong tarball | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | would explain all the pain I've been having | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | aha, it was | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | well, they're still not using CMake :( | 01:56 |
| Lex79 | which package you're talking about? | 01:57 |
| JontheEchidna | rosegarden | 01:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ooh, time to watch Lost | 01:58 |
| Lex79 | uhmmmm :( | 01:58 |
| Lex79 | me tomorrow :) episode 3 | 02:00 |
| seele | ryanakca: i've had firefox crash several times during a file download and i can't help but wonder if it is a disk access problem | 02:57 |
| * ryanakca nods | 03:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, rosegarden kicked the kde dependency too, it seems. :( | 03:17 |
| JontheEchidna | gah, Crystal svg icons | 03:54 |
| * JontheEchidna whimpers | 03:54 | |
| JontheEchidna | It's a trifecta of ass: 1) Replace CMake with autohell, 2) get rid of KDE integration, 3) use a mix of oxygen and crystalsvg icons | 03:57 |
| JontheEchidna | boy am I glad I don't use this application :D | 03:57 |
| shtylman | Riddell: fyi... that crash was not related to the new progress bar :) | 04:02 |
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| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I very much think that "* Copyright: See COPYING file that comes with this distribution" is no proper copyright in kx11grab | 06:37 |
| apachelogger | esp since there is no such file | 06:38 |
| apachelogger | in fact I would argue that we do not even know it is GPL3+ | 06:39 |
| apachelogger | it could be GPL3, GPL3+, LGPL3, LGPL3+ | 06:39 |
| apachelogger | app icons should go to hicolor not oxygen | 06:40 |
| apachelogger | I really do not like that package | 06:50 |
| apachelogger | short description is exceeding 80 characters | 06:50 |
| apachelogger | the package was debianized 2010 but copyright is 2009? | 06:51 |
| apachelogger | and ends with period | 06:52 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 06:52 |
| stvo | hello everyone, Martin Pitt gave me the hint to ask in this channel. So i hope you don't mind. I'm searching for tool that is able to document qt signal-slot-connections as a graph. Maybe within a Classdiagramm... any hint would be helpful | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | stvo: no such thing AFAIK, maybe #qt can help | 09:56 |
| stvo | thx | 09:58 |
| Riddell | nixternal: how's koffice getting on? | 10:17 |
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| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: I saw you acked colibri on revu. The build fails for me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/378266/ | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | mhhh | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | neversfelde: your packaging style is much like mine :P | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | like it | 11:28 |
| agateau | Riddell: hi, just released libdbusmenu-qt 2.2, fixing bug 521011 | 11:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 521011 in libdbusmenu-qt "Knotes crash on close" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521011 | 11:32 |
| agateau | In case you are in an update-package mood :) | 11:33 |
| Riddell | agateau: I am indeed, I have your kopete patch to get in too | 11:33 |
| agateau | Riddell: good news about this one: it's acked to go to kde trunk... | 11:33 |
| agateau | Riddell: and 4.4 branch! | 11:33 |
| Riddell | yay, top stuff agateau | 11:34 |
| agateau | Riddell: so it won't be a distro-patch for Lucid as I assume it will be come with KDE 4.4.2 | 11:34 |
| agateau | s/be come/come/ | 11:35 |
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| MelisU | Hello guys! | 12:33 |
| MelisU | I have one problem. I am on Karmic and run 4.4. | 12:34 |
| MelisU | And I installed the rekonq deb from Lucid | 12:34 |
| MelisU | Problem is: | 12:34 |
| MelisU | rekonq hängt ab von libqt4-webkit (>= 4:4.6.1-1ubuntu2); aber: | 12:34 |
| MelisU | Version von libqt4-webkit auf dem System ist 4:4.6.1-1ubuntu2~karmic1~ppa2. | 12:34 |
| MelisU | The version is obviously fine, but can I tell the package database to accept it? | 12:35 |
| tsimpson | MelisU: use --force-depends with dpkg | 12:37 |
| tsimpson | eg: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends rekonq.deb | 12:37 |
| MelisU | tsimpson: yes, I did that, but once I run update it wants to uninstall rekonq again | 12:37 |
| MelisU | I want it to be accepted .. not marked as broken | 12:38 |
| tsimpson | try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt/Dpkg | 12:39 |
| MelisU | that would work if I would add lucid and installed all the lucid dependencies .. but I really don't want to do that | 12:45 |
| Tm_T | agateau: I noticed in ML yes (: | 12:51 |
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| Riddell | agateau: so what's new in this libdbusmenu-qt for me to test? | 15:29 |
| agateau | Riddell: don't you read NEWS files? :) | 15:29 |
| agateau | quitting knotes should not crash anymore | 15:29 |
| Riddell | aah, was looking for CHANGELOG and missed that | 15:33 |
| agateau | heh, I don't do changelog, | 15:33 |
| agateau | that's what {git,bzr,svn} log is for :) | 15:33 |
| Riddell | right enough | 15:34 |
| Riddell | agateau: does kopete use dbusmenu currently? the set status widget seems to work ok | 15:37 |
| agateau | Riddell: what should not work is the entry labeled "Change Message" | 15:37 |
| Riddell | agateau: seems to show ok with its text area | 15:38 |
| agateau | Riddell: mmm weird | 15:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: if it's using dbusmenu, then the menu title should look a bit different | 15:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: more like a disabled menu item | 15:39 |
| agateau | but actually Kopete can't really decide if it is using DBusMenu or not: if it has been ported to KStatusNotifierItem, then the systemtray will use dbusmenu to show the menu | 15:40 |
| agateau | assuming the systemtray includes the dbusmenu patch | 15:40 |
| Riddell | it does indeed | 15:45 |
| agateau | Riddell: so you have Kopete custom message editor item shown in a dbusmenu enabled Kopete? | 15:47 |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kopete.png | 15:51 |
| agateau | Riddell: this is not using dbusmenu :/ | 15:53 |
| agateau | mmm | 15:54 |
| agateau | Riddell: can you check if the kdebase-workspace patch has been applied? | 15:55 |
| Riddell | agateau: it's in the build log | 15:56 |
| Riddell | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39274306/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kdebase-workspace_4%3A4.4.0-0ubuntu4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz search for kubuntu_98_dbusmenu.diff | 15:56 |
| agateau | Riddell: could be the other side: the kdelibs patch | 15:56 |
| Riddell | is also applied, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39079838/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.4.0-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz kubuntu_70_dbusmenu.diff | 15:57 |
| agateau | mmm | 15:57 |
| agateau | Riddell: do you have d-feet installed? | 15:57 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 15:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: pygtk based dbus inspector | 15:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: can you install it? I'll then guide you to get some information out | 15:59 |
| Riddell | agateau: installed | 16:01 |
| agateau | Riddell: ok, now start it | 16:01 |
| Riddell | yep | 16:01 |
| agateau | Riddell: you probably need to connect to the session bus when it's started for the first time | 16:01 |
| Riddell | done | 16:02 |
| agateau | Then in the Filter: field, type "kopete" | 16:02 |
| agateau | it should narrow the list below to 2 items | 16:02 |
| agateau | mmm make this 3 actually | 16:03 |
| Riddell | quiet a few http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kopete1.png | 16:03 |
| agateau | wow | 16:03 |
| agateau | ok, the one you want is the KStatusNotifierItem one | 16:04 |
| agateau | It should have a "/MenuBar" object path | 16:04 |
| agateau | does it? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | yes | 16:04 |
| Riddell | # | 16:04 |
| agateau | good, expand the Interfaces then org.ayatana.dbusmenu items | 16:05 |
| agateau | Double click the GetChildren() method | 16:05 |
| Riddell | got a dialogue now | 16:06 |
| agateau | and enter 0, "" in the Parameters field | 16:06 |
| agateau | click Execute | 16:06 |
| agateau | Should get some Pythonic text in Output | 16:06 |
| agateau | can you pastebin it? | 16:06 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m784b1d1c | 16:07 |
| agateau | Looks good | 16:07 |
| agateau | Kopete is correctly exporting its menu | 16:08 |
| agateau | then the systemtray is faulty | 16:08 |
| shtylman_ | its agateau! :) | 16:08 |
| agateau | shtylman_ ? | 16:08 |
| agateau | Some thing to try: | 16:08 |
| shtylman_ | heh | 16:09 |
| agateau | Riddell: start the systemtray with plasmoidviewer | 16:09 |
| agateau | Riddell: plasmoidviewer systemtray | 16:09 |
| agateau | There should be a log line telling whether it's using dbusmenu or not | 16:10 |
| Riddell | agateau: log? where? | 16:10 |
| agateau | stdout | 16:10 |
| Riddell | nope | 16:10 |
| agateau | stderr actually :) | 16:10 |
| Riddell | something needs turned on in kdebug? | 16:11 |
| agateau | mmm | 16:11 |
| agateau | maybe | 16:11 |
| agateau | I usually have lots of things up in kdebug | 16:11 |
| agateau | plasmoidviewer maybe | 16:11 |
| Riddell | agateau: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m263f1899 | 16:12 |
| Riddell | plasmoidviewer(13865)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayProtocol::registerWatcher: System tray daemon not reachable | 16:12 |
| agateau | Riddell: yes, that does not sound good | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw the kopete facebook backport for karmic,did you look at it? | 16:13 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no but facebook supports XMPP now so kopete-facebook can die | 16:13 |
| * shadeslayer wimpers | 16:13 | |
| shadeslayer | well... meh :P | 16:13 |
| agateau | Riddell: I think what's happening is that the KSNI init fails, and the systemtray falls back to the old x-embed method | 16:14 |
| agateau | Riddell: if you mouse over the icon, I guess you don't get any highlight effect | 16:14 |
| Riddell | I do not | 16:14 |
| agateau | Riddell: can you restart kded4? | 16:15 |
| agateau | it should fix the problem | 16:16 |
| Riddell | restarted kded4 and plasma-desktop, now I have an empty systray | 16:17 |
| agateau | are you disappointed by my fix ? :) | 16:17 |
| agateau | Can you restart kopete? | 16:17 |
| Riddell | agateau: restarting kopete adds it back to the systray but still not dbusmenu | 16:18 |
| agateau | Riddell: and still no over effect? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | no | 16:19 |
| agateau | Riddell: can you try to log out and back in? | 16:20 |
| Riddell | k | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you should nuke kopete-facebook off the archive so I can close the bug reports :P | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I should have a Quassel update to 0.6 beta shortly. | 16:29 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: done | 16:40 |
| Riddell | agateau: well I rebooted and it's still fscking | 16:40 |
| agateau | Riddell: [esc] key is your friend! | 16:41 |
| Riddell | agateau: however this daily image from yesterday does seem to use dbusmenu | 16:41 |
| Riddell | so maybe it's confused by me installing the new version of libdbusmenu-qt? | 16:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: could be, but the API didn't change so it's a bit strange | 16:42 |
| Riddell | esc doesn't seem to help with this fsck | 16:43 |
| Riddell | just kills plymouth | 16:43 |
| agateau | oh | 16:43 |
| agateau | that's a strong fsck! | 16:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: fsck done, systray now successfully dbusmenu-ified | 16:50 |
| agateau | Riddell: party! | 16:50 |
| Riddell | so maybe it got confused by the new libdbusmenu-qt I installed | 16:50 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: agateau: are we planing on mobile broadband db integration with the networkmanager? | 17:21 |
| agateau | jussi01: not sure what this is :/ | 17:22 |
| jussi01 | agateau: ever used the nm-applet from network-manager-gnome? | 17:22 |
| agateau | jussi01: yes | 17:23 |
| jussi01 | agateau: ever used it with a 3g modem/phone? | 17:23 |
| agateau | jussi01: no | 17:23 |
| jussi01 | agateau: its got a load of pre configured stuff, so all you have to do is choose your provider and plan | 17:24 |
| agateau | jussi01: ah ok | 17:24 |
| agateau | handy | 17:24 |
| agateau | jussi01: sebas or wstephenson (on #kde-devel) are probably more qualified to answer this question | 17:25 |
| jussi01 | agateau: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/22/mobile-broadband-assistant-makes-it-easy/ | 17:25 |
| Riddell | first task is just to get the plasmoid working | 17:33 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: seems the patch exists and its earmarked for next week \o/ | 17:34 |
| Riddell | lovely | 17:36 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: what do you think about my pkg-kde-tools merge? | 17:56 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: thanks for reviewing, what is the problem with the code import of md5.[c,h]? | 17:58 |
| nixternal | Riddell: working on koffice now | 18:12 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: retry please https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/0.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509408 | 18:43 |
| Lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:3.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509404 | 18:43 |
| Lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:3.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509402 | 18:44 |
| ScottK | Quassel uploaded (so it's feature complete for Lucid) | 18:52 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: can you sync this: bug #522975 It's already ACK'd by JontheEchidna | 18:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 522975 in kanyremote "Please sync kanyremote 5.11.2-1 with Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522975 | 18:53 |
| Riddell | Lex79: pkg-kde-tools looks good thanks uploading | 19:05 |
| Lex79 | looks good? I know I know :) ok | 19:06 |
| Riddell | kdevplatform retried | 19:11 |
| * shtylman_ just used bzr builddeb ... I like it ... now if it would just also upload to my ppa :) | 19:11 | |
| shtylman_ | or better yet... have my ppa build right from bzr :) | 19:12 |
| Lex79 | uhmm chroot problem | 19:13 |
| Lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/0.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509408 | 19:13 |
| Riddell | boom | 19:14 |
| Riddell | debfx_: ping | 19:14 |
| nixternal | grrr, stupid distributed development shite | 19:24 |
| jjesse | should virtuoso be using 20% of my processor almost all the time? the command in system activity is virtuoso-t | 19:38 |
| nixternal | jjesse: I just shut it off, I would kill for just 20% use | 19:38 |
| nixternal | my cpu fan is constantly going because virtuoso is a hog | 19:38 |
| jjesse | mine too | 19:39 |
| jjesse | i'm on 9.10 are you on lucid? | 19:39 |
| nixternal | no, karmic | 19:39 |
| jjesse | my nepomunk store is 500gb | 19:39 |
| nixternal | yeah, mine is getting up there as well...trying to figure out why, as I am not getting this in openSUSE | 19:40 |
| jjesse | just totally turned of nepomuk | 19:40 |
| jjesse | hrmm now wineserver is eating up my processor :( boo | 19:42 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: colibri http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/colibri | 19:42 |
| Lex79 | it seems revu doesn't like source format 3.0 | 19:43 |
| ScottK | Lex79: No. It doesn't support it yet. | 19:50 |
| Lex79 | ah ok | 19:50 |
| claydoh | Riddell: ScottK : and anyone else: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs needs feedback/clarification/correction/etc pretty please | 19:53 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: ^^^ | 19:54 |
| neversfelde | misterious colibri, I build it this morning and it did not work. I can confirm that it builds now :) | 19:56 |
| Lex79 | magic :) | 19:57 |
| jjesse-netbook | nixternal: nepomuk is disabled in netbook edition which is why my netbook still has a battery life :) | 19:59 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz | 20:31 |
| neversfelde | I still have my "extra-license-file usr/share/doc/mdic/COPYING.gz" and no idea how to fix it. Most other packages with a similiar problem did a lintian override. Any ideas? | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | \o | 20:43 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I brainfarted, koffice, are we dropping the -kde4? | 20:50 |
| ScottK | nixternal: We are | 20:52 |
| ScottK | (we already did, IIRC) | 20:52 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 20:52 |
| Riddell | yep | 20:52 |
| nixternal | there is no package in LP with it removed already | 20:52 |
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| Lex79 | nixternal: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu/revision/22 | 21:11 |
| Lex79 | and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu/revision/23 | 21:11 |
| ScottK | nixternal: You checked koffice source package? | 21:12 |
| nixternal | yeah, it was half-way done in the branches | 21:26 |
| nixternal | forgot about that | 21:26 |
| rickspencer3 | *sigh* | 21:30 |
| rickspencer3 | I've been auto-joining #kubutnu-devel for like the last 2 weeks | 21:31 |
| nixternal | lol | 21:33 |
| jjesse | haha | 21:35 |
| jjesse | i always screw up #kde-docs and #ubuntu-doc | 21:35 |
| jjesse | like which one has the s | 21:35 |
| nixternal | anyone know if the latest daily image is working? | 21:37 |
| nixternal | I know 2 days ago they weren't | 21:37 |
| Riddell | nixternal: was yesterday except the installer crashes half way through | 21:39 |
| nixternal | yeah, same thing as a couple of days ago | 21:39 |
| nixternal | i have a somewhat installed kubuntu lucid, but it is quite broken | 21:40 |
| nixternal | actually, more annoyances than broken stuff | 21:40 |
| nixternal | I need my big box up and running with kubuntu lucid so I can build koffice...don't feel like building it on my netbook :) | 21:41 |
| jjesse | which would proablly take months :) | 21:42 |
| nixternal | for some reason, my laptop is having issues building stuff, as it quickly overheats now | 21:42 |
| nixternal | the fan can't even keep up with the cooker, err I mean cpu | 21:43 |
| nixternal | one of these days I will be able to afford a new puter | 21:44 |
| nixternal | until then, building with frankenstein | 21:44 |
| Riddell | nixternal: use a chroot? | 21:44 |
| Riddell | I can also give you access to my computer in the back room | 21:44 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I typically do, however I like to install and test as well after building | 21:44 |
| nixternal | I appreciate that, but I should be good here in a few after getting lucid installed | 21:45 |
| Riddell | you can install and test in a chroot, just needs /tmp as a bind mount | 21:45 |
| Riddell | xhost + and voila, X apps work | 21:45 |
| nixternal | that's more of a pain...I would rather test in a real environment | 21:46 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Set the laptop on a ziplock bag of ice. | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Just don't leave it too long without a break or condensation will get you. | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Yes. I have done this. | 21:50 |
| nixternal | haha, I was doing something similar to that last week actually | 21:50 |
| * ScottK is not kidding. | 21:51 | |
| nixternal | I need to figure out why it does that in the first place...it is something new, something that hasn't happened in the past | 21:51 |
| nixternal | I keep it cleaned out, the fan works, but the fan doesn't kick in until it hits around 80c, which is smokin' hot | 21:51 |
| Sput | there's a kernel bug that hit me as well | 21:53 |
| Sput | something about trip points not being set correctly | 21:53 |
| Sput | so the CPU doesn't throttle itself until it's too late | 21:53 |
| nixternal | my cpu seems to be throttling correctly...it is a centrino duo 2ghz, currently running at 800mhz | 21:56 |
| Sput | well, throttle because of heat | 22:02 |
| Sput | usually, CPUs should throttle down when they're loaded and get too hot | 22:02 |
| Sput | that worked here until some kernel version started screwing it up | 22:03 |
| Sput | not it doesn't throttle itself under load until the critical shutdown temperature is reached | 22:03 |
| Sput | couldn't figure out how to fix either | 22:03 |
| nixternal | ahh, gotcha | 22:03 |
| Sput | right now I have the critical trip points disabled, which means it won't shutdown at all anymore | 22:03 |
| Sput | but if it gets really too hot, the machine just freezes of course | 22:04 |
| Sput | so that's a rather crude workaround :> | 22:04 |
| Sput | in particular considering that I use Gentoo | 22:04 |
| Sput | so my CPU does a lot of compiling | 22:04 |
| Mamarok | Sput: welcome to the club... | 22:04 |
| Sput | Mamarok: oh, you got the same problem? | 22:05 |
| Sput | well, you have the same machine more or less :) but still | 22:05 |
| Mamarok | yep, apparently with the latest kernel, I had several shutdowns here, out of the blue when compiling | 22:05 |
| Sput | there has to be a way to fix this, but the kernel option google told me (psv=C) didn't work | 22:05 |
| Sput | so afair the problem is that you should have a passive trip point that tells the CPU when to throttle down, but it's only set on one CPU | 22:06 |
| Sput | so if the other core gets hotter, the machine won't throttle, but shutdown | 22:06 |
| Sput | the passive trip point is way lower than the critical | 22:06 |
| Sput | but I couldn't figure out how to set that on the other CPU as well :( | 22:07 |
| Sput | Mamarok: if you figure something out, let me knoe! | 22:07 |
| Sput | *know | 22:07 |
| Mamarok | Sput: I was going to ask you the same :) | 22:09 |
| al | is there a way to try a few things with the launchpad translation feature somewhere? | 22:14 |
| al | like a sandbox project maybe? | 22:14 |
| Sput | al++ | 22:15 |
| al | staging.launchpad.net states i can't export translations from there | 22:16 |
| al | or can i somehow get translations added at https://translations.launchpad.net/quassel without actually joining a translation team? | 22:17 |
| ScottK | al: Those come from the package which I just uploaded today. | 22:19 |
| al | ScottK: so i just wait till stuff appears? | 22:20 |
| Sput | ah, possibly triggered by the .pot being present? | 22:20 |
| ScottK | Hopefully | 22:22 |
| Lex79 | ScottK: how to download kdenlive 0.7.7 from debian? http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kdenlive.html | 22:28 |
| ScottK | Lex79: dget http://incoming.debian.org/kdenlive_0.7.7-1.dsc | 22:29 |
| Lex79 | thanks | 22:29 |
| ScottK | Lex79: Act fast before dinstall runs and it disappears | 22:29 |
| Lex79 | ok | 22:29 |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: would you archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy ? | 22:34 |
| neversfelde | mhh, the kmldonkey about dialog says it is 2.0.5 and we have 4:2.0.3-kde4.4.0really2.0.2-kde4.4.0-0ubuntu1 in the archive | 22:38 |
| neversfelde | something is wrong :) | 22:38 |
| Lex79 | the tarball version is 2.0.3, ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.4.0/src/extragear/ | 22:40 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna or ScottK: kdenlive 0.7.7 https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 22:44 |
| neversfelde | Lex79: yes, where can I ask to get this fixed. #kde-devel ? | 22:48 |
| Lex79 | neversfelde: I'm not sure but you can try | 22:50 |
| nixternal | "I am an executive search consultant in the field of quantitative trading. My clients are predominantly buy-side firms." <- umm yeah, you figured I blew enough interviews in this field, they would have all started talking to each other realizing I suck :) | 22:58 |
| Riddell | do I want to know what quantitative trading is? | 22:59 |
| Riddell | is it just trading in something rather than nothing? | 23:00 |
| nixternal | it is just a fancy term for stock trading | 23:00 |
| nixternal | I passed most of their C++ stuff, but then they get into funky ass algos that kill me | 23:00 |
| Riddell | oh, so it is trading in nothing | 23:01 |
| nixternal | considering the current status of the US Stock Market, I would say that is about right :) | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | a bit busy atm, will be able to do kubuntu-ish things in a few hours | 23:03 |
| nixternal | I do need to get in deeper with C++ stuff though, as I feel I have lost quite a bit over the past couple of years...I can still code in C++ fine, just a bit slower now than what I used to be | 23:03 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: thanks for the warning :p | 23:03 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: was more for neversfelde and Lex79 :P | 23:03 |
| nixternal | it was a warning for everyone though, you just don't know it yet | 23:03 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 23:03 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 23:05 |
| nixternal | woo, install alpha-2 :) took forever to download | 23:05 |
| nixternal | hey, just an idea, but that silly desktop plasma widget we show on the desktop after a fresh install, why don't we utilize it for some of the popular apps like openSUSE does? I have to admit, I think that is a great idea for new users | 23:06 |
| neversfelde | probably another MOTU can archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy , the new version was uploaded bug 520362 | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 520362 in plasma-widget-daisy "plasma-widget-daisy 0.0.4.22" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520362 | 23:07 |
| bulldog98 | Riddel:I just noticed that virtuoso-nepomuk which is essential for nepomuk is not an dependens of kubuntu-desktop | 23:09 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: archived | 23:10 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: it's a recommends of libsoprano4 | 23:10 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: thanks | 23:10 |
| Riddell | of soprano-daemon rather | 23:10 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell:because on my last update in lucid I didn’t got it via update and nepomuk was unusable | 23:11 |
| bulldog98 | good night | 23:16 |
| neversfelde | when is feature freeze today? | 23:22 |
| Riddell | yes | 23:22 |
| Riddell | thursday | 23:22 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I'd like to know the exact time :) ? | 23:23 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: apachelogger found several issues for the kfritz package. As he isn't around anymore, would you have another look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz | 23:24 |
| Riddell | oh I don't think there's any need to be exact about these things | 23:24 |
| Riddell | Categories=Qt;KDE;Utility;TelephonyTools; is TelephonyTools a valid category used somewhere? | 23:29 |
| Riddell | nhandler: what's going on in #kubuntu ? | 23:29 |
| Riddell | jussi01 do you know? | 23:29 |
| nhandler | Riddell: No clue. Let me look into it | 23:30 |
| Sput | someone tells me someone should fix rogue flood bots in #kubuntu | 23:31 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna and Lex79: I'm taking kdenlive | 23:31 |
| Lex79 | thanks | 23:32 |
| nhandler | Riddell: It might be a good idea to ban/remove it for the time being until tsimpson can look into it | 23:32 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html | 23:33 |
| neversfelde | TelephonyTools is there | 23:33 |
| Riddell | nhandler: done | 23:33 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: right enough | 23:36 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: advocated! | 23:37 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: thanks | 23:38 |
| neversfelde | so, I need a second review :) | 23:38 |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna is not around | 23:38 |
| neversfelde | nixternal is busy with koffice | 23:39 |
| neversfelde | Lex79 is too lazy to become a MOTU :) | 23:39 |
| Lex79 | I think we forgot to packaging php plugin for kdevelop | 23:39 |
| JontheEchidna | it's still beta | 23:40 |
| neversfelde | apachelogger is not around | 23:40 |
| neversfelde | I have a problem :D | 23:40 |
| Riddell | so it kdevelop to be fair | 23:40 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, yeah | 23:40 |
| Lex79 | :) | 23:40 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll be able to revu in an hour or so | 23:40 |
| JontheEchidna | hopefully :D | 23:40 |
| neversfelde | JontheEchidna: would be great | 23:41 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: maco might be around | 23:41 |
| neversfelde | ah :) | 23:41 |
| neversfelde | maco: ? | 23:41 |
| ScottK | Lex79: kdenlive uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 23:47 |
| Lex79 | :) | 23:48 |
| neversfelde | Lex79: toma told me to post the kmldonkey issue to the release list to sort it out, so we can probably get rid of our strange kmldonkey version :) | 23:50 |
| Lex79 | good, thanks | 23:51 |
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