[00:10] <ryanakca> seele: I have an encrypted HD in my netbook, performance isn't too bad, takes two or three seconds for a program to open, but nothing awful.
[00:12] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ping
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: pong
[00:12] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: just uploaded to revu the fixed kx11grab package :)
[00:12] <JontheEchidna> nice
[00:12] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: should be a ok now :)
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> k, will re-revu once the page updates
[00:13] <_Groo_> hmmm transformers are on FX...
[00:13] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: thanks :)
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: oh, I forgot to mention that using kde.mk also means adding a build-depend on pkg-kde-tools, sorry
[00:17] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: arrrrrrrghhhhhhh
[00:17] <JontheEchidna> sorry :(
[00:17] <_Groo_> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7855
[00:17] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: :D reuploading..
[00:17] <_Groo_> bad JontheEchidna bad!
[00:18] <Lex79> I'm merging pkg-kde-tools btw :) if we want it
[00:18] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: oh, and there are still a few sentences that don't begin with a capitalized letter in the long description
[00:18] <_Groo_> done and reuploaded
[00:19] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: where? only "This" is capitalized
[00:19] <_Groo_> ffmpeg and x11 are the names.. i need to lowercase those too?
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> "it sends the generated..."
[00:20] <JontheEchidna> that needs to be uppercase since it's the start of a new sentence
[00:20] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: argh i understood the exact opposite XD
[00:20] <JontheEchidna> :P
[00:20] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: english is not my native language :D
[00:20] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: fixing
[00:20] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: oh, and I think the upstream author's copyright date still needs to be bumped to 2007-2009
[00:20] <JontheEchidna> otherwise looks good
[00:21] <_Groo_> triuploade
[00:21] <_Groo_> uploaded*
[00:21] <JontheEchidna> ;)
[00:21]  * _Groo_ cries
[00:22] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: from Copyright 2009 Juergen Heinemann to Copyright 2007-2009 Juergen Heinemann?
[00:22] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: yes
[00:23] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: anything else? (_Groo_ is getting smarter)
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> it's tucked away in a file or two, but grep found it ;-)
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: that's all I saw
[00:24] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: done :)
[00:25] <JontheEchidna> cool, I'll add my ack when it appears. Then the apachelogger can come down off of Mount Olympus to use his mighty Thor hammer to give a second revu :D
[00:25] <Lex79> lol
[00:26]  * _Groo_ thinks apachelogger is more the loki type...
[00:27] <_Groo_> funny and cruel :D
[00:27]  * _Groo_ gazes around to see if Nightrose is sleeping...
[00:27] <_Groo_> all clear :D
[00:28] <JontheEchidna> "Loki assists the gods, and sometimes causes problems for them." haha
[00:42] <Lex79> Riddell: pkg-kde-tools 0.6.4 https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages
[00:43] <Lex79> oh, typo in changelog Mrg instead of Merge :(
[00:45] <Riddell> Lex79: e-mail me, I'll get it tomorrow
[00:45] <Lex79> ok
[01:24] <ryanakca> Waisketef92
[01:27]  * ryanakca curses, runs passwd and thanks himself for using a different password on every site.
[01:27]  * ryanakca has also just learned that he should wait for his screen to turn on before typing in his password to what should be a locked screen :P
[01:28] <JontheEchidna> so glad that's never happened to me^
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> what upstream packages their .tar.gz in a .tar.bz2? O_o
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> downright deceitful v.v
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> just go with tar.bz2 in the first place, and everybody wins...
[01:43] <Lex79> JontheEchidna: ack please bug #522975
[01:44] <JontheEchidna> Lex79: ack'd
[01:45] <Lex79> thx
[01:48]  * _Groo_ starts shooting dictionary brute force in every server ryanakca as a user, guessing what all know, that we only use 2 or 3 "root" passwds, and variations of those
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, I've never seen an upstream switch to autohell when they port to Qt4 either
[01:50]  * JontheEchidna cries
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> they had been using CMake too :(
[01:52] <Sput> whoa that is dense.
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> wait, this might be the wrong tarball
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> would explain all the pain I've been having
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> aha, it was
[01:56] <JontheEchidna> well, they're still not using CMake :(
[01:57] <Lex79> which package you're talking about?
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> rosegarden
[01:58] <JontheEchidna> ooh, time to watch Lost
[01:58] <Lex79> uhmmmm :(
[02:00] <Lex79> me tomorrow :)  episode 3
[02:57] <seele> ryanakca: i've had firefox crash several times during a file download and i can't help but wonder if it is a disk access problem
[03:01]  * ryanakca nods
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> hmm, rosegarden kicked the kde dependency too, it seems. :(
[03:54] <JontheEchidna> gah, Crystal svg icons
[03:54]  * JontheEchidna whimpers
[03:57] <JontheEchidna> It's a trifecta of ass: 1) Replace CMake with autohell, 2) get rid of KDE integration, 3) use a mix of oxygen and crystalsvg icons
[03:57] <JontheEchidna> boy am I glad I don't use this application :D
[04:02] <shtylman> Riddell: fyi... that crash was not related to the new progress bar :)
[06:37] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I very much think that "* Copyright: See COPYING file that comes with this distribution" is no proper copyright in kx11grab
[06:38] <apachelogger> esp since there is no such file
[06:39] <apachelogger> in fact I would argue that we do not even know it is GPL3+
[06:39] <apachelogger> it could be GPL3, GPL3+, LGPL3, LGPL3+
[06:40] <apachelogger> app icons should go to hicolor not oxygen
[06:50] <apachelogger> I really do not like that package
[06:50] <apachelogger> short description is exceeding 80 characters
[06:51] <apachelogger> the package was debianized 2010 but copyright is 2009?
[06:52] <apachelogger> and ends with period
[06:52] <apachelogger> oh my
[09:43] <stvo> hello everyone, Martin Pitt gave me the hint to ask in this channel. So i hope you don't mind. I'm searching for tool that is able to document qt signal-slot-connections as a graph. Maybe within a Classdiagramm... any hint would be helpful
[09:56] <apachelogger> stvo: no such thing AFAIK, maybe #qt can help
[09:58] <stvo> thx
[10:17] <Riddell> nixternal: how's koffice getting on?
[10:54] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: I saw you acked colibri on revu. The build fails for me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/378266/
[11:27] <apachelogger> mhhh
[11:28] <apachelogger> neversfelde: your packaging style is much like mine :P
[11:28] <apachelogger> like it
[11:32] <agateau> Riddell: hi, just released libdbusmenu-qt 2.2, fixing bug 521011
[11:33] <agateau> In case you are in an update-package mood :)
[11:33] <Riddell> agateau: I am indeed, I have your kopete patch to get in too
[11:33] <agateau> Riddell: good news about this one: it's acked to go to kde trunk...
[11:33] <agateau> Riddell: and 4.4 branch!
[11:34] <Riddell> yay, top stuff agateau
[11:34] <agateau> Riddell: so it won't be a distro-patch for Lucid as I assume it will be come with KDE 4.4.2
[11:35] <agateau> s/be come/come/
[12:33] <MelisU> Hello guys!
[12:34] <MelisU> I have one problem. I am on Karmic and run 4.4.
[12:34] <MelisU> And I installed the rekonq deb from Lucid
[12:34] <MelisU> Problem is:
[12:34] <MelisU> rekonq hängt ab von libqt4-webkit (>= 4:4.6.1-1ubuntu2); aber:
[12:34] <MelisU>   Version von libqt4-webkit auf dem System ist 4:4.6.1-1ubuntu2~karmic1~ppa2.
[12:35] <MelisU> The version is obviously fine, but can I tell the package database to accept it?
[12:37] <tsimpson> MelisU: use --force-depends with dpkg
[12:37] <tsimpson> eg: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends rekonq.deb
[12:37] <MelisU> tsimpson: yes, I did that, but once I run update it wants to uninstall rekonq again
[12:38] <MelisU> I want it to be accepted .. not marked as broken
[12:39] <tsimpson> try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Apt/Dpkg
[12:45] <MelisU> that would work if I would add lucid and installed all the lucid dependencies .. but I really don't want to do that
[12:51] <Tm_T> agateau: I noticed in ML yes (:
[15:29] <Riddell> agateau: so what's new in this libdbusmenu-qt for me to test?
[15:29] <agateau> Riddell: don't you read NEWS files? :)
[15:29] <agateau> quitting knotes should not crash anymore
[15:33] <Riddell> aah, was looking for CHANGELOG and missed that
[15:33] <agateau> heh, I don't do changelog,
[15:33] <agateau> that's what {git,bzr,svn} log is for :)
[15:34] <Riddell> right enough
[15:37] <Riddell> agateau: does kopete use dbusmenu currently?  the set status widget seems to work ok
[15:37] <agateau> Riddell: what should not work is the entry labeled "Change Message"
[15:38] <Riddell> agateau: seems to show ok with its text area
[15:39] <agateau> Riddell: mmm weird
[15:39] <agateau> Riddell: if it's using dbusmenu, then the menu title should look a bit different
[15:39] <agateau> Riddell: more like a disabled menu item
[15:40] <agateau> but actually Kopete can't really decide if it is using DBusMenu or not: if it has been ported to KStatusNotifierItem, then the systemtray will use dbusmenu to show the menu
[15:40] <agateau> assuming the systemtray includes the dbusmenu patch
[15:45] <Riddell> it does indeed
[15:47] <agateau> Riddell: so you have Kopete custom message editor item shown in a dbusmenu enabled Kopete?
[15:51] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kopete.png
[15:53] <agateau> Riddell: this is not using dbusmenu :/
[15:54] <agateau> mmm
[15:55] <agateau> Riddell: can you check if the kdebase-workspace patch has been applied?
[15:56] <Riddell> agateau: it's in the build log
[15:56] <Riddell> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39274306/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kdebase-workspace_4%3A4.4.0-0ubuntu4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz search for kubuntu_98_dbusmenu.diff
[15:56] <agateau> Riddell: could be the other side: the kdelibs patch
[15:57] <Riddell> is also applied, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39079838/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.4.0-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz kubuntu_70_dbusmenu.diff
[15:57] <agateau> mmm
[15:57] <agateau> Riddell: do you have d-feet installed?
[15:58] <Riddell> what's that?
[15:58] <agateau> Riddell: pygtk based dbus inspector
[15:59] <agateau> Riddell: can you install it? I'll then guide you to get some information out
[16:01] <Riddell> agateau: installed
[16:01] <agateau> Riddell: ok, now start it
[16:01] <Riddell> yep
[16:01] <agateau> Riddell: you probably need to connect to the session bus when it's started for the first time
[16:02] <Riddell> done
[16:02] <agateau> Then in the Filter: field, type "kopete"
[16:02] <agateau> it should narrow the list below to 2 items
[16:03] <agateau> mmm make this 3 actually
[16:03] <Riddell> quiet a few http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kopete1.png
[16:03] <agateau> wow
[16:04] <agateau> ok, the one you want is the KStatusNotifierItem one
[16:04] <agateau> It should have a "/MenuBar" object path
[16:04] <agateau> does it?
[16:04] <Riddell> yes
[16:04] <Riddell> #
[16:05] <agateau> good, expand the Interfaces then org.ayatana.dbusmenu items
[16:05] <agateau> Double click the GetChildren() method
[16:06] <Riddell> got a dialogue now
[16:06] <agateau> and enter 0, "" in the Parameters field
[16:06] <agateau> click Execute
[16:06] <agateau> Should get some Pythonic text in Output
[16:06] <agateau> can you pastebin it?
[16:07] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m784b1d1c
[16:07] <agateau> Looks good
[16:08] <agateau> Kopete is correctly exporting its menu
[16:08] <agateau> then the systemtray is faulty
[16:08] <shtylman_> its agateau! :)
[16:08] <agateau> shtylman_ ?
[16:08] <agateau> Some thing to try:
[16:09] <shtylman_> heh
[16:09] <agateau> Riddell: start the systemtray with plasmoidviewer
[16:09] <agateau> Riddell: plasmoidviewer systemtray
[16:10] <agateau> There should be a log line telling whether it's using dbusmenu or not
[16:10] <Riddell> agateau: log? where?
[16:10] <agateau> stdout
[16:10] <Riddell> nope
[16:10] <agateau> stderr actually :)
[16:11] <Riddell> something needs turned on in kdebug?
[16:11] <agateau> mmm
[16:11] <agateau> maybe
[16:11] <agateau> I usually have lots of things up in kdebug
[16:11] <agateau> plasmoidviewer maybe
[16:12] <Riddell> agateau: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m263f1899
[16:12] <Riddell> plasmoidviewer(13865)/plasma SystemTray::DBusSystemTrayProtocol::registerWatcher: System tray daemon not reachable
[16:13] <agateau> Riddell: yes, that does not sound good
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw the kopete facebook backport for karmic,did you look at it?
[16:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no but facebook supports XMPP now so kopete-facebook can die
[16:13]  * shadeslayer wimpers
[16:13] <shadeslayer> well... meh :P
[16:14] <agateau> Riddell: I think what's happening is that the KSNI init fails, and the systemtray falls back to the old x-embed method
[16:14] <agateau> Riddell: if you mouse over the icon, I guess you don't get any highlight effect
[16:14] <Riddell> I do not
[16:15] <agateau> Riddell: can you restart kded4?
[16:16] <agateau> it should fix the problem
[16:17] <Riddell> restarted kded4 and plasma-desktop, now I have an empty systray
[16:17] <agateau> are you disappointed by my fix ? :)
[16:17] <agateau> Can you restart kopete?
[16:18] <Riddell> agateau: restarting kopete adds it back to the systray but still not dbusmenu
[16:19] <agateau> Riddell: and still no over effect?
[16:19] <Riddell> no
[16:20] <agateau> Riddell: can you try to log out and back in?
[16:20] <Riddell> k
[16:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: you should nuke kopete-facebook off the archive so I can close the bug reports :P
[16:29] <ScottK> Riddell: I should have a Quassel update to 0.6 beta shortly.
[16:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: done
[16:40] <Riddell> agateau: well I rebooted and it's still fscking
[16:41] <agateau> Riddell: [esc] key is your friend!
[16:41] <Riddell> agateau: however this daily image from yesterday does seem to use dbusmenu
[16:42] <Riddell> so maybe it's confused by me installing the new version of libdbusmenu-qt?
[16:42] <agateau> Riddell: could be, but the API didn't change so it's a bit strange
[16:43] <Riddell> esc doesn't seem to help with this fsck
[16:43] <Riddell> just kills plymouth
[16:43] <agateau> oh
[16:43] <agateau> that's a strong fsck!
[16:50] <Riddell> agateau: fsck done, systray now successfully dbusmenu-ified
[16:50] <agateau> Riddell: party!
[16:50] <Riddell> so maybe it got confused by the new libdbusmenu-qt I installed
[17:21] <jussi01> Riddell: agateau: are we planing on mobile broadband db integration with the networkmanager?
[17:22] <agateau> jussi01: not sure what this is :/
[17:22] <jussi01> agateau: ever used the nm-applet from network-manager-gnome?
[17:23] <agateau> jussi01: yes
[17:23] <jussi01> agateau: ever used it with a 3g modem/phone?
[17:23] <agateau> jussi01: no
[17:24] <jussi01> agateau: its got a load of pre configured stuff, so all you have to do is choose your provider and plan
[17:24] <agateau> jussi01: ah ok
[17:24] <agateau> handy
[17:25] <agateau> jussi01: sebas or wstephenson (on #kde-devel) are probably more qualified to answer this question
[17:25] <jussi01> agateau: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/22/mobile-broadband-assistant-makes-it-easy/
[17:33] <Riddell> first task is just to get the plasmoid working
[17:34] <jussi01> Riddell: seems the patch exists and its earmarked for next week \o/
[17:36] <Riddell> lovely
[17:56] <Lex79> Riddell: what do you think about my pkg-kde-tools merge?
[17:58] <neversfelde> apachelogger: thanks for reviewing, what is the problem with the code import of md5.[c,h]?
[18:12] <nixternal> Riddell: working on koffice now
[18:43] <Lex79> Riddell: retry please https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/0.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509408
[18:43] <Lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:3.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509404
[18:44] <Lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/4:3.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509402
[18:52] <ScottK> Quassel uploaded (so it's feature complete for Lucid)
[18:53] <Lex79> Riddell: can you sync this: bug #522975 It's already ACK'd by JontheEchidna
[19:05] <Riddell> Lex79: pkg-kde-tools looks good thanks uploading
[19:06] <Lex79> looks good? I know I know :) ok
[19:11] <Riddell> kdevplatform retried
[19:11]  * shtylman_ just used bzr builddeb ... I like it ... now if it would just also upload to my ppa :)
[19:12] <shtylman_> or better yet... have my ppa build right from bzr :)
[19:13] <Lex79> uhmm chroot problem
[19:13] <Lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevplatform/0.9.98-0ubuntu1/+build/1509408
[19:14] <Riddell> boom
[19:14] <Riddell> debfx_: ping
[19:24] <nixternal> grrr, stupid distributed development shite
[19:38] <jjesse> should virtuoso be using 20% of my processor almost all the time? the command in system activity is virtuoso-t
[19:38] <nixternal> jjesse: I just shut it off, I would kill for just 20% use
[19:38] <nixternal> my cpu fan is constantly going because virtuoso is a hog
[19:39] <jjesse> mine too
[19:39] <jjesse> i'm on 9.10 are you on lucid?
[19:39] <nixternal> no, karmic
[19:39] <jjesse> my nepomunk store is 500gb
[19:40] <nixternal> yeah, mine is getting up there as well...trying to figure out why, as I am not getting this in openSUSE
[19:40] <jjesse> just totally turned of nepomuk
[19:42] <jjesse> hrmm now wineserver is eating up my processor :( boo
[19:42] <Lex79> Riddell: colibri http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/colibri
[19:43] <Lex79> it seems revu doesn't like source format 3.0
[19:50] <ScottK> Lex79: No. It doesn't support it yet.
[19:50] <Lex79> ah ok
[19:53] <claydoh> Riddell:  ScottK :  and anyone else: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs needs feedback/clarification/correction/etc pretty please
[19:54] <claydoh> apachelogger:  ^^^
[19:56] <neversfelde> misterious colibri, I build it this morning and it did not work. I can confirm that it builds now :)
[19:57] <Lex79> magic :)
[19:59] <jjesse-netbook> nixternal: nepomuk is disabled in netbook edition which is why my netbook still has a battery life :)
[20:31] <neversfelde> apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz
[20:37] <neversfelde> I still have my "extra-license-file usr/share/doc/mdic/COPYING.gz" and no idea how to fix it. Most other packages with a similiar problem did a lintian override. Any ideas?
[20:43] <Quintasan> \o
[20:50] <nixternal> Riddell: I brainfarted, koffice, are we dropping the -kde4?
[20:52] <ScottK> nixternal: We are
[20:52] <ScottK> (we already did, IIRC)
[20:52] <nixternal> hrmm
[20:52] <Riddell> yep
[20:52] <nixternal> there is no package in LP with it removed already
[21:11] <Lex79> nixternal: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu/revision/22
[21:11] <Lex79> and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu/revision/23
[21:12] <ScottK> nixternal: You checked koffice source package?
[21:26] <nixternal> yeah, it was half-way done in the branches
[21:26] <nixternal> forgot about that
[21:30] <rickspencer3> *sigh*
[21:31] <rickspencer3> I've been auto-joining #kubutnu-devel for like the last 2 weeks
[21:33] <nixternal> lol
[21:35] <jjesse> haha
[21:35] <jjesse> i always screw up #kde-docs and #ubuntu-doc
[21:35] <jjesse> like which one has the s
[21:37] <nixternal> anyone know if the latest daily image is working?
[21:37] <nixternal> I know 2 days ago they weren't
[21:39] <Riddell> nixternal: was yesterday except the installer crashes half way through
[21:39] <nixternal> yeah, same thing as a couple of days ago
[21:40] <nixternal> i have a somewhat installed kubuntu lucid, but it is quite broken
[21:40] <nixternal> actually, more annoyances than broken stuff
[21:41] <nixternal> I need my big box up and running with kubuntu lucid so I can build koffice...don't feel like building it on my netbook :)
[21:42] <jjesse> which would proablly take months :)
[21:42] <nixternal> for some reason, my laptop is having issues building stuff, as it quickly overheats now
[21:43] <nixternal> the fan can't even keep up with the cooker, err I mean cpu
[21:44] <nixternal> one of these days I will be able to afford a new puter
[21:44] <nixternal> until then, building with frankenstein
[21:44] <Riddell> nixternal: use a chroot?
[21:44] <Riddell> I can also give you access to my computer in the back room
[21:44] <nixternal> Riddell: I typically do, however I like to install and test as well after building
[21:45] <nixternal> I appreciate that, but I should be good here in a few after getting lucid installed
[21:45] <Riddell> you can install and test in a chroot, just needs /tmp as a bind mount
[21:45] <Riddell> xhost + and voila, X apps work
[21:46] <nixternal> that's more of a pain...I would rather test in a real environment
[21:50] <ScottK> nixternal: Set the laptop on a ziplock bag of ice.
[21:50] <ScottK> Just don't leave it too long without a break or condensation will get you.
[21:50] <ScottK> Yes.  I have done this.
[21:50] <nixternal> haha, I was doing something similar to that last week actually
[21:51]  * ScottK is not kidding.
[21:51] <nixternal> I need to figure out why it does that in the first place...it is something new, something that hasn't happened in the past
[21:51] <nixternal> I keep it cleaned out, the fan works, but the fan doesn't kick in until it hits around 80c, which is smokin' hot
[21:53] <Sput> there's a kernel bug that hit me as well
[21:53] <Sput> something about trip points not being set correctly
[21:53] <Sput> so the CPU doesn't throttle itself until it's too late
[21:56] <nixternal> my cpu seems to be throttling correctly...it is a centrino duo 2ghz, currently running at 800mhz
[22:02] <Sput> well, throttle because of heat
[22:02] <Sput> usually, CPUs should throttle down when they're loaded and get too hot
[22:03] <Sput> that worked here until some kernel version started screwing it up
[22:03] <Sput> not it doesn't throttle itself under load until the critical shutdown temperature is reached
[22:03] <Sput> couldn't figure out how to fix either
[22:03] <nixternal> ahh, gotcha
[22:03] <Sput> right now I have the critical trip points disabled, which means it won't shutdown at all anymore
[22:04] <Sput> but if it gets really too hot, the machine just freezes of course
[22:04] <Sput> so that's a rather crude workaround :>
[22:04] <Sput> in particular considering that I use Gentoo
[22:04] <Sput> so my CPU does a lot of compiling
[22:04] <Mamarok> Sput: welcome to the club...
[22:05] <Sput> Mamarok: oh, you got the same problem?
[22:05] <Sput> well, you have the same machine more or less :) but still
[22:05] <Mamarok> yep, apparently with the latest kernel, I had several shutdowns here, out of the blue when compiling
[22:05] <Sput> there has to be a way to fix this, but the kernel option google told me (psv=C) didn't work
[22:06] <Sput> so afair the problem is that you should have a passive trip point that tells the CPU when to throttle down, but it's only set on one CPU
[22:06] <Sput> so if the other core gets hotter, the machine won't throttle, but shutdown
[22:06] <Sput> the passive trip point is way lower than the critical
[22:07] <Sput> but I couldn't figure out how to set that on the other CPU as well :(
[22:07] <Sput> Mamarok: if you figure something out, let me knoe!
[22:07] <Sput> *know
[22:09] <Mamarok> Sput: I was going to ask you the same :)
[22:14] <al> is there a way to try a few things with the launchpad translation feature somewhere?
[22:14] <al> like a sandbox project maybe?
[22:15] <Sput> al++
[22:16] <al> staging.launchpad.net states i can't export translations from there
[22:17] <al> or can i somehow get translations added at https://translations.launchpad.net/quassel without actually joining a translation team?
[22:19] <ScottK> al: Those come from the package which I just uploaded today.
[22:20] <al> ScottK: so i just wait till stuff appears?
[22:20] <Sput> ah, possibly triggered by the .pot being present?
[22:22] <ScottK> Hopefully
[22:28] <Lex79> ScottK: how to download kdenlive 0.7.7 from debian? http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kdenlive.html
[22:29] <ScottK> Lex79: dget http://incoming.debian.org/kdenlive_0.7.7-1.dsc
[22:29] <Lex79> thanks
[22:29] <ScottK> Lex79: Act fast before dinstall runs and it disappears
[22:29] <Lex79> ok
[22:34] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: would you archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy ?
[22:38] <neversfelde> mhh, the kmldonkey about dialog says it is 2.0.5 and we have 4:2.0.3-kde4.4.0really2.0.2-kde4.4.0-0ubuntu1 in the archive
[22:38] <neversfelde> something is wrong :)
[22:40] <Lex79> the tarball version is 2.0.3, ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.4.0/src/extragear/
[22:44] <Lex79> JontheEchidna or ScottK: kdenlive 0.7.7 https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages
[22:48] <neversfelde> Lex79: yes, where can I ask to get this fixed. #kde-devel ?
[22:50] <Lex79> neversfelde: I'm not sure but you can try
[22:58] <nixternal> "I am an executive search consultant in the field of quantitative trading. My clients are predominantly buy-side firms."  <- umm yeah, you figured I blew enough interviews in this field, they would have all started talking to each other realizing I suck :)
[22:59] <Riddell> do I want to know what quantitative trading is?
[23:00] <Riddell> is it just trading in something rather than nothing?
[23:00] <nixternal> it is just a fancy term for stock trading
[23:00] <nixternal> I passed most of their C++ stuff, but then they get into funky ass algos that kill me
[23:01] <Riddell> oh, so it is trading in nothing
[23:01] <nixternal> considering the current status of the US Stock Market, I would say that is about right :)
[23:03] <JontheEchidna> a bit busy atm, will be able to do kubuntu-ish things in a few hours
[23:03] <nixternal> I do need to get in deeper with C++ stuff though, as I feel I have lost quite a bit over the past couple of years...I can still code in C++ fine, just a bit slower now than what I used to be
[23:03] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: thanks for the warning :p
[23:03] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: was more for neversfelde and Lex79 :P
[23:03] <nixternal> it was a warning for everyone though, you just don't know it yet
[23:03] <JontheEchidna> lol
[23:05] <neversfelde> hehe
[23:05] <nixternal> woo, install alpha-2 :)  took forever to download
[23:06] <nixternal> hey, just an idea, but that silly desktop plasma widget we show on the desktop after a fresh install, why don't we utilize it for some of the popular apps like openSUSE does? I have to admit, I think that is a great idea for new users
[23:07] <neversfelde> probably another MOTU can archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy ,  the new version was uploaded bug 520362
[23:09] <bulldog98> Riddel:I just noticed that virtuoso-nepomuk which is essential for nepomuk is not an dependens of kubuntu-desktop
[23:10] <Riddell> neversfelde: archived
[23:10] <Riddell> bulldog98: it's a recommends of libsoprano4
[23:10] <neversfelde> Riddell: thanks
[23:10] <Riddell> of soprano-daemon rather
[23:11] <bulldog98> Riddell:because on my last update in lucid I didn’t got it via update and nepomuk was unusable
[23:16] <bulldog98> good night
[23:22] <neversfelde> when is feature freeze today?
[23:22] <Riddell> yes
[23:22] <Riddell> thursday
[23:23] <neversfelde> Riddell: I'd like to know the exact time :) ?
[23:24] <neversfelde> Riddell: apachelogger found several issues for the kfritz package. As he isn't around anymore, would you have another look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz
[23:24] <Riddell> oh I don't think there's any need to be exact about these things
[23:29] <Riddell> Categories=Qt;KDE;Utility;TelephonyTools; is TelephonyTools a valid category used somewhere?
[23:29] <Riddell> nhandler: what's going on in #kubuntu ?
[23:29] <Riddell> jussi01 do you know?
[23:30] <nhandler> Riddell: No clue. Let me look into it
[23:31] <Sput> someone tells me someone should fix rogue flood bots in #kubuntu
[23:31] <ScottK> JontheEchidna and Lex79: I'm taking kdenlive
[23:32] <Lex79> thanks
[23:32] <nhandler> Riddell: It might be a good idea to ban/remove it for the time being until tsimpson can look into it
[23:33] <neversfelde> Riddell: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html
[23:33] <neversfelde> TelephonyTools is there
[23:33] <Riddell> nhandler: done
[23:36] <Riddell> neversfelde: right enough
[23:37] <Riddell> neversfelde: advocated!
[23:38] <neversfelde> Riddell: thanks
[23:38] <neversfelde> so, I need a second review :)
[23:38] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna is not around
[23:39] <neversfelde> nixternal is busy with koffice
[23:39] <neversfelde> Lex79 is too lazy to become a MOTU :)
[23:39] <Lex79> I think we forgot to packaging php plugin for kdevelop
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> it's still beta
[23:40] <neversfelde> apachelogger is not around
[23:40] <neversfelde> I have a problem :D
[23:40] <Riddell> so it kdevelop to be fair
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> heh, yeah
[23:40] <Lex79> :)
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> I'll be able to revu in an hour or so
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> hopefully :D
[23:41] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: would be great
[23:41] <Riddell> neversfelde: maco might be around
[23:41] <neversfelde> ah :)
[23:41] <neversfelde> maco: ?
[23:47] <ScottK> Lex79: kdenlive uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu.
[23:48] <Lex79> :)
[23:50] <neversfelde> Lex79: toma told me to post the kmldonkey issue to the release list to sort it out, so we can probably get rid of our strange kmldonkey version :)
[23:51] <Lex79> good, thanks