[00:07] <throughnothing> How do i tweak/modify/play with my synaptic touchpad settings with devicekit in lucid
[00:08] <Takyoji> Apparently my Ethernet connection is no longer functional after I attempted hibernation..
[00:08] <Takyoji> (which didn't return to it's original state when the system was started)
[00:09] <Takyoji> Tried restarting; nothing changed.
[00:24] <LADmaticCA> anyone have trouble with usb sticks? Mine won't auto mount anymore
[00:36] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, connect one then do lsusb in a terminal
[00:37] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, Okay i did that. I see the Lexar usb stick
[00:38] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, does it show up in places?
[00:39] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, nope
[00:41] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, perhaps I should mention I edited my fstab file, but I only made changes to my internal sata disks. That wouldn't effect my usb sticks would it?
[00:41] <BluesKaj> sudo mount /dev/usbname
[00:42] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, yeah, the usbs shouldn't be affected
[00:44] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, the stick is listed as sdd1. When I tried that command I got "mount: can't find /dev/sdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[00:46] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, interesting, My Disk Utility program appears broken too. It just says "Null" in parenthesis
[00:46] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, ok with the stick still connected, sudo blkid
[00:48] <LADmaticCA> BluesKaj, Okay, I got "/dev/sdd1: UUID="3D0DE5552B4B69CE" TYPE="ntfs" .....for the stick
[00:53] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, not sure , but try copying that line into fstab, without the quotes
[00:57] <Takyoji> So for my case of Ethernet no longer working anymore after attempting hibernation; should I report that, or what could I try to make it operational again?
[00:58] <Takyoji> ""
[00:58] <Takyoji> "Networking Disabled" is what the connection manager applet implies
[00:59] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, i really don't think editing fstab will work...your usb device should show up in nautilus without fstsb help.
[00:59] <LADmaticCA> LADmaticCA, yeah I got an error about ntfs-3g when i tried adding it and it crashed nautilus
[01:03] <BluesKaj> LADmaticCA, sorry , i have to go ... maybe someone with more expertise with this can help
[01:29] <Takyoji> Stupid mistake on my end; the "Enable Networking" checkmark wasn't checked...
[01:41] <LiraNuna> what did smtpd_sasl_path change to in lucid?
[01:41] <LiraNuna> it used to be /var/run/dovecot/private/auth
[02:55] <billybigrigger_> hey all
[03:03] <gghhttyy> does anyone here know of problems with snx?
[03:04] <gghhttyy> as in, it connects and works for a few minutes, then all networking stops until you kill snx?
[03:06] <gghhttyy> anyone here using snx?
[03:07] <gghhttyy> checkpoint vpn?
[03:12] <gghhttyy_> has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) with lucid?
[03:16] <DanaG> argh, is it a "feature" that the networkmanager thingy only says "Wired Network disconnected", and not WHICH NETWORK CARD?
[03:17] <gghhttyy_> has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) with lucid?
[03:20] <gghhttyy> does anyone here use checkpoint snx?
[03:28] <gghhttyy> does anyone here use checkpoint snx?
[03:37] <DanaG> !repeat
[03:47] <gghhttyy_> has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) on lucid?
[04:03] <billybigrigger_> !find libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0
[04:05] <billybigrigger_> hmm
[04:05] <billybigrigger_> have that package installed
[04:05] <billybigrigger_> wtf
[04:05] <billybigrigger_> anyone here familiar with redsn0w?
[04:11] <DanaG> weird... my pulseaudio keeps dropping out from network streaming.
[04:11] <DanaG> And my system keeps dhp-requesting on an interface that's set to give it an infinite lease time... so there's no valid reason for it to be dhcp-requesting over and over.
[04:19] <DanaG> ARGH
[04:19] <DanaG>  why the heck does ubuntu keep dhcp-requesting over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
[04:19] <DanaG> over... despite having been given an INFINITE lease time?
[04:23] <DanaG> Feb 16 22:22:28 beagleboard pulseaudio[890]: memblock.c: Pool full
[04:41] <jdobrien> hi all, i installed lucid from the Cd on a clean system. at the login screen my keyboard and mouse don't work
[04:42] <jdobrien> i say clean system...on a clean partition, not an upgrade
[04:48] <DanaG> argh, alsa-info.sh overwrote itself with a 0-byte file.
[05:04] <DanaG> weird... this SOC has some weird volume controls.
[05:04] <DanaG> Like, the line-out is "headset", not "earpiece".
[05:04] <DanaG> well, I guess that does make some sense.
[05:05] <om26er> can someone please run gwibber and evolution and see if there is a separator between them in indicator applet or not
[05:07] <DanaG> weird... the omap3beagle sound thingy doesn't show up as a thingy in /sys/modules
[05:12] <jdobrien> aha! I have the 'Enter key" bug!
[05:18] <DanaG> Feb 16 23:17:35 beagleboard pulseaudio[2942]: protocol-native.c: Underrun on 'omap3beagle Analog Stereo for dana@EliteBook', 0 bytes in queue.
[05:18] <DanaG> argh!
[05:23] <tgpraveen12> om26er: there isnt
[05:24] <om26er> tgpraveen12, would you please make a comment at this bug report please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/442608/
[05:25] <tgpraveen12> the bug should be in
[05:25] <tgpraveen12> message-indicator
[05:25] <om26er> tgpraveen12, indicator-messages?
[05:27] <tgpraveen12> yeah something like that
[05:27] <tgpraveen12> i forgot whats the exact name
[05:27] <tgpraveen12> u have put indicator-application
[05:27] <tgpraveen12> maybe that is the one. they have changed the name in each cycle
[05:27] <tgpraveen12> anyways i marked the bug as affecting me
[05:32] <tgpraveen12> to evolution users how do i sort my mail by date descending order
[05:32] <tgpraveen12> ie newlest mail at top
[05:32] <tgpraveen12> currently it is latest mail at bottom
[05:34] <Takyoji> Should be able to just click on "Date" column again, and it'll sort it in the opposite order
[05:39] <tgpraveen12> Takyoji: hmm yeah that worked thx
[05:39] <vish> tgpraveen12: om26er: the bug is kind of a moot point.. the menu is being redesigned ;)  [not sure what the real end result will be though]
[05:40] <tgpraveen12> the reason why i didnt think of it is that date colum doesnt have a comlumn heading/title
[05:40] <tgpraveen12> so wasnt sure if it exists though dates are shown next to the emails
[05:40] <om26er> vish, ah, I just reported another bug for indicator messages. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/523022
[05:41] <om26er> oops wrong description
[05:41] <vish> ;)
[05:41] <DanaG> ratelimit.c: 470 events suppressed             memblock.c: Pool full                 last message repeated 10 times
[05:41] <DanaG> ARGH
[05:41] <vish> tgpraveen12: just click on the column header , just like in all other apps
[05:41]  * vish oops just noticed tgpraveen12 already found the answer
[05:44] <tgpraveen12> vish: but different apps should have different sections in the messagin menu right?
[05:44] <tgpraveen12> or even that concept is being redesigned
[05:45] <vish> tgpraveen12: yeah , probably the sections would be needed.. all i heard was the menu was being changed :)
[05:46] <tgpraveen12> vish: ok. btw the new icons for messaging menu when a new message arrives is superb :-0
[05:46] <tgpraveen12> :-)
[05:46]  * om26er likes the new color of indicator messages when a message arrives
[05:46] <vish> thanks :D
[05:50]  * om26er wishes battery's green colour would match the green in MeMenu
[05:51] <kklimonda> report a bug
[05:53] <vish> om26er: the battery green color is not for "charging" , but rather for when charge is completed
[05:53] <om26er> yes
[05:54] <vish> om26er: it is to grab more attention... while the rest can be subtle
[05:54] <om26er> vish, we will see some other changes in humanity too ?
[05:55] <vish> om26er: not sure what you mean... which icons?
[05:55] <vish> om26er: or are you asking for sending screenshot to OMG ;p
[05:56] <om26er> vish, in the application menu 'internet' icon was changed. I am asking this kind of changes
[05:57] <vish> om26er: ah , yeah , that one was changed  , since all those icons we yellow and the menu looked jaundiced :s
[05:57] <vish> s/we/were
[05:59] <vish> om26er: i dont think there'd be anything new.. more of bug fixes only until release..
[06:00] <om26er> vish, last question sorry for the annoyance. will battery applet get ported to indicator applications for lucid?
[06:00] <vish> om26er: i think it was just done
[06:00] <vish> om26er: > Bug 497870
[06:01] <tgpraveen12> vish: the color of status icon of me menu is going to go away right?
[06:01] <vish> om26er: ah , the battery icons would look a bit different when that update lands :)
[06:01] <vish> tgpraveen12: Bug #522698
[06:01] <kklimonda> tgpraveen12: what? why? :/
[06:01] <kklimonda> I like it :/
[06:02] <tgpraveen12> i also want the battery icon to have the green of me menu. it will still attract attention as rest all will be monochrome and using same set of colors will make it more consistent etc
[06:02] <tgpraveen12> kklimonda: atest update breaks monochrome
[06:02] <om26er> vish, what comes in gnome-media?
[06:03] <vish> not sure..
[06:03] <vish> tgpraveen12: well , the memenu will loose its color ;p
[06:03] <tgpraveen12> om26er: nothing. it was originally supposed to be for volume control one
[06:04] <om26er> ah, ok
[06:05] <om26er> seems to me like power managers build failed
[06:06] <vish> om26er: there are a few more icons in humanity which aernt being used atm , they are awaiting app support for indicator-application
[06:07] <om26er> transmission got ported to application indicator it came in the updates
[06:10] <tgpraveen12> i am noticing that the new icons like for messaging menu, me menu look very good with dark themes like new wave
[06:11] <tgpraveen12> green on black. me like.
[06:14] <om26er> Indicator applications really rock. its awesome
[06:20] <alkisg> Is freenx going to be available for Lucid? Is neatx in a working state? https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa
[06:23] <kklimonda> alkisg: I don't think so unless there is already a fairly advanced ticket about it
[06:23] <om26er> !info mono
[06:23] <Zer_> Howdy. Is there any chance Ubuntu 10.04 will package Mono 2.6 instead of 2.4?
[06:24] <alkisg> kklimonda: erm sorry I didn't express myself correctly. I didn't mean in the official Ubuntu archive, I meant "available in the freenx PPA" - right now it isn't there for Lucid...
[06:24] <om26er> ubottu, that was quick ;)
[06:25] <kklimonda> alkisg: it is the wrong channel to ask about it then - send an email to PPA maintainer
[06:26] <alkisg> kklimonda: ok thanks, I just thought others using Lucid would also be interested in using freenx, and maybe someone would have some information about it.
[06:27] <kklimonda> Zer_: I don't think so - it was released few months ago and if there were plans to include it someone would have already done it
[06:29] <alkisg> kklimonda: btw, are people allowed to ask in this channel about other software not in the Ubuntu archives, like vbox or googleearth?
[06:29] <alkisg> (I mean, for usage/problems in Lucid of course...)
[06:30] <kklimonda> alkisg: sure - don't know if you are going to get a response but I think we have at least some people running closed version of vbox
[06:31] <om26er> this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/522698 say that the new icons break monochrome, so the green icon of indicator messages wont break monochrome?
[06:31] <alkisg> I don't have a specific question, I was just wondering about the channel policy. Thank you :)
[06:32] <kklimonda> om26er: I think the idea is the green indicator messages are shown only when there is an event waiting for your action
[06:32] <Zer_> Hmm, that's a damn shame. It's got some very significant improvements that would be worth having
[06:32] <kklimonda> om26er: and the status icon is always green/red when you are logged in to the IM
[06:59] <vish> om26er: the "new" will stay that way.. many were complaining they couldnt tell the difference when mail arrived
[07:00] <om26er> vish, that would be better
[07:19] <eagles0513875> can anyone point me in the right direction to getting one of the repos fixed
[07:20] <eagles0513875> its been broken for the last 3 days. i can give you the ip for it but just not sure where to go to get it fixed
[07:24] <DanaG> nice: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Palimpsest%20Disk%20Utility.png
[07:48] <vish> om26er: was it you who asked for the transmission icon?
[07:49] <om26er> vish, I guess no.
[07:49]  * vish needs someone to file a bug to add an icon for that ;)
[07:49] <om26er> vish, its also gonna get monochrome?
[07:50] <om26er> vish, I will do that
[07:51] <om26er> vish, where will it go? humanity or transmission?
[07:51] <vish> om26er: humanity
[07:55] <om26er> https://bugs.launchpad.net/humanity/+bug/523048
[07:55] <vish> neato.. :)
[08:23] <edakiri> What program/package builds the initrd?
[08:25] <RAOF> update-initrd
[08:30] <edakiri> that helped enough for me to find     initramfs-tools: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs
[08:30] <RAOF> Whoops.  Silly me!  Sorlry.
[09:00] <DanaG> nice news item:
[09:01] <DanaG>     The alias extension does not exist anymore as its fonctionnalities are now  in mercurial core. To avoid spurious warning about failed loading of  extension, users just have to remove it in their hgrc file.
[09:01] <DanaG> that's copy-and-paste.
[09:01] <DanaG> "fonctionnalities"
[09:01] <DanaG> Awesome.
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> DanaG: want good news: we now have DOUBLE gdms
[09:01] <DanaG> wait, what?
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> on this morning boot, GDM went GREEN
[09:02] <DanaG> oh, and another awesome:
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> I jumped to TTY
[09:02] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Palimpsest%20Disk%20Utility.png
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> and wrote: sudo gdm stop
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> guess what happen?
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> X started
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> LOLOLOL
[09:02] <BUGabundo_remote> [reminder] and wrote: sudo gdm *stop*
[09:03] <DanaG> Nice disk utility. =þ
[09:03] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh
[09:04] <DanaG> (null)
[09:19] <phildini> Hi. I'm using the most recent Lucid alpha, and I had a question about updates. Is anyone available?
[09:20] <SwedeMike> phildini: just ask, don't ask to ask.
[09:22] <phildini> when I update via apt-get upgrade, I get some upgrades following a long list of packages that are being held back. some of these held back packages are preventing me from submitting apport reports since they're not the latest version. why are some package updates held back and should I change those settings?
[09:24] <Ian_Corne> use dist-upgrade
[09:24] <Ian_Corne> instead of upgrade
[09:24] <Ian_Corne> be careful tho, look at the "packages to remove" bit
[09:24] <phildini> are the packages kept back for a reason?
[09:25] <Ian_Corne> I think it's either because they will remove another package or they will install new packages
[09:25] <phildini> ok.
[09:28] <phildini> is there a lucid team site I can check to see current status and if using dist-upgrade is a good idea?
[09:31] <Ian_Corne> I think your best bet is here :p
[09:32] <Ian_Corne> if dist-upgrade doesn't remove whole applications it should be fine,
[09:32] <BUGabundo_remote> phildini: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[09:32] <Ian_Corne> i've had a few that removed a lib to replace it with a newer version
[09:32] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo_remote: will that upgrade everything?
[09:32] <BUGabundo_remote> and that's done try WITH CAUTION sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> Ian_Corne: full-upgrade will
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> :p
[09:33] <Ian_Corne> :p
[09:33] <phildini> thanks. that was my main concern, currently it looks like nothing breaks.
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> phildini: dist upgrade IS NEVER a good idea
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> specially on a devel version
[09:33] <Ian_Corne> hm
[09:33] <phildini> hmm..
[09:33] <Ian_Corne> I always use it :o
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> I wonder why you don't complain as much as DanaG then :
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> :9
[09:33] <phildini> i've used it once or twice. what's the logic behind that?
[09:34] <BUGabundo_remote> phildini: to break stuff, so we can report probs :D
[09:34] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo_remote: just doesn't like apt-get he's an aptitude man!
[09:34] <Ian_Corne> :p
[09:34] <DanaG> I have certain things that really irk me to no end... and that's what I complain about.
[09:34] <DanaG> =þ
[09:35] <Ian_Corne> I had to remove my encrypted home
[09:35] <Ian_Corne> it kept clogging up on login
[09:36] <phildini> thanks for all the help.
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> Ian_Corne: naaaa, that's plymouth
[09:37]  * BUGabundo_remote blames everything in plymouth
[09:39] <Ian_Corne> hehe, i get to GDM np
[09:39] <Ian_Corne> i'm on my eee tho :p
[09:39] <Ian_Corne> my desktop with nvidia doesn't have any clean boot process :p
[09:40] <Ian_Corne> but it's been trough every alpha since gutsy so...
[09:42] <BUGabundo_remote> and using dist upgrade :D
[09:44] <Ian_Corne> uhu
[09:45] <Ian_Corne> I don't even dare to use it to base bugreports on anymore :p
[09:48] <DanaG> hmm, will this end up in ubuntu-mozilla-daily?
[09:48] <DanaG> http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/
[09:55] <eagles0513875> bah this is just great :(
[09:55] <eagles0513875> just upgraded from karmic to lucid and it seems to either hang or take a really long time to load for me :(
[09:57] <eagles0513875> morning BUGabundo_remote
[09:59] <edakiri> eagles0513875: when you log in or when?
[09:59] <eagles0513875> edakiri: no prior to that
[09:59] <edakiri> it may seem to hang when you log in to the console as well, but is really checking for network updates
[09:59] <eagles0513875> console is fine for me
[10:00] <eagles0513875> well there is a nasty package which is black listed
[10:01] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-lucid-20100216-3.png  -- wow, that's a huge bootchart.
[10:01] <DanaG> Bogs down firefox, too.
[10:04] <BUGabundo_remote> DanaG: LOOOOL
[10:05] <BUGabundo_remote> eagles0513875: known bug
[10:05] <BUGabundo_remote> ohh before login ?
[10:05]  * BUGabundo_remote will still blame plymouth
[10:06] <eagles0513875> ya i know
[10:06] <eagles0513875> well im desktopless atm till that is fixed
[10:07] <BUGabundo_remote> eagles0513875: remove plymouth
[10:08] <eagles0513875> ??
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> and stop gdm, then start it again
[10:08] <eagles0513875> im on kubuntu
[10:08] <eagles0513875> trying to install kubuntu-desktop
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> trying??
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> wasn't it an upgrade?
[10:08] <eagles0513875> ya it was but the libmysqlclient16 is broken and has been black listed so i cant install kubuntu
[10:09] <kklimonda> oh, it's blacklisted? where can I read about it?
[10:11] <DanaG> My bootcharts rather suck.
[10:11] <DanaG> er, login times, more correctly.
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> ahhh
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> so that's why ppl come here complaining about it
[10:15] <kklimonda> heh.. we should probably stop breaking lucid and start fixing it if we are aiming for the end of april :/
[10:15]  * kklimonda got hit by "enter kills X" bug..
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[10:17] <DanaG> Your computer failed to suspend.
[10:17] <DanaG> The failure was reported as: Cannot suspend
[10:17] <DanaG> uh... what?
[10:19] <DanaG> And it didn't even lock my screen.
[10:23] <eagles0513875> well i got hit with libmysqlclient16 bug whre its blacklisted in the repo but breaks upgrade process
[10:23] <eagles0513875> not to mention i cant even install kde again
[10:24] <eagles0513875> at least i have gnome
[10:27] <eagles0513875> bbl
[10:32] <om26er> what is the non-technical term for 'client side decorations' ?
[10:33] <BUGabundo_remote> I beet that mysql but has to do with neupomuk
[11:00] <mister_roboto> does anyone here know anything about snx? the vpn software from checkpoint?
[11:00] <mister_roboto> having a problem but don't know how to usefully report it to the devs
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !bugs
[11:12] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto: ^^^
[11:13] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: thanks. my problem is not so much where to report but *what*  :)  I wanted to volunteer to get more info as it would be a bit vague if I wrote it up knowing what I do now
[11:19] <gnomefreak> mister_roboto: than try launchpad answers
[11:19] <gnomefreak> or sak in here when others are around
[11:19] <mister_roboto> gnomefreak: will do. thanks
[11:19] <gnomefreak> s/sak/ask
[11:21] <mister_roboto> ls
[11:21] <mister_roboto> oops, wrong window!
[11:30] <schmidtm> any news on the nvidia suspend problem
[11:35] <tgpraveen12> info banshee
[11:36] <tgpraveen12> !info banshee
[13:02] <SirNothus> Hi all
[13:02] <ikonia> hello
[13:02] <SirNothus> Got a bit of a bug with 10.4 that has been biting me for the past couple of days
[13:03] <SirNothus> Machine hangs solid after entering password on login screen
[13:04] <SirNothus> Have brought it up in single user mode and have been applying updates for the last 3 days but doesn't seem to have fixed it
[13:04] <SirNothus> It's an upgrade from 9.10 that was working fine
[13:05] <SirNothus> Also runs Win7 fine..
[13:05] <SirNothus> 64bit desktop version
[13:05] <SirNothus> AMD PhenomII and a NVidia GTX260
[13:06] <SirNothus> Tried switching to console, no go.. It's locked solid
[13:11] <SirNothus> Hmm, looks like I should have bought coffee
[13:11] <Pici> What DE?
[13:12] <BUGabundo_remote> SirNothus: known bug
[13:12] <ikonia> BUGabundo_remote: got the details ?
[13:12] <BUGabundo_remote> let me get the bug id
[13:12] <SirNothus> DE?
[13:12] <h00k> I believe it's a problem with plymouth
[13:12] <BUGabundo_remote> yes
[13:12] <Pici> Desktop Environment (gnome/kde/whatever).
[13:12]  * Pici hasn't rebooted or relogged in a bit
[13:12] <SirNothus> Ahh stock, so Gnome
[13:12] <BUGabundo_remote> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/518058
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> it says fixed, but lots of ppl still complaining
[13:13] <h00k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/516412
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> so I guess there's another bug there
[13:13] <rww> oh hey, i get that sometimes
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> rww: LOL
[13:13] <Pici> Is the fix built yet?
[13:13] <h00k> Yeah, I'd be one that says it's not fixed
[13:13] <h00k> Pici: yeah, and released.
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> either ALWAYS or not
[13:13] <BUGabundo_remote> pici Fix released
[13:14] <Pici> BUGabundo_remote: If it was recent, it doesnt mean that the packages were built yet.
[13:14] <h00k> Except it doesn't fix this problem, they suggested to open another bug.  That's silly.
[13:14]  * Pici hasn't clicked the link yet, is lazy this morning.
[13:14] <h00k> Pici: no, the fix went to the repos
[13:14] <Pici> h00k: okay :)
[13:14] <h00k> Pici: it's sort of an argument ongoing on that bug :(
[13:14] <rww> Does removing plymouth fix it?
[13:15] <BUGabundo_remote> Pici:  it was last week
[13:15] <h00k> rww: yep!
[13:15] <BUGabundo_remote> rww: yes
[13:15]  * BUGabundo_remote is lagged as hell
[13:15] <rww> I guess I'll do that, then ;P
[13:18] <SirNothus> Just going to boot up my desktop and I'll try removing plymouth
[13:18] <SirNothus> Next question... What does plymouth do?
[13:18] <h00k> SirNothus: provides that nifty logo and a flicker-free startup sequence
[13:19] <SirNothus> Ahh, I won't miss it then.. I'm a hard core geek dammit. I want scrolling text, it makes people think I'm l33t :-p
[13:21] <SirNothus> Yeah, that really does fix it..
[13:21] <SirNothus> I have all the available updates as of about 10 minutes ago, so it doesn't seem to have been pushed out, or the fix didnt work
[13:25] <SirNothus> The version I just removed was 0.8.0~-10
[13:25] <h00k> yep.
[13:30] <SirNothus> Well, I guess that's it.. It's a known bug, and there should be a fix around somewhere.. I'll leave you too it and head back to bed like I was planning
[13:30] <SirNothus> Thanks all
[13:35] <h00k> So, that plymouth bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/522692
[13:36] <h00k> The developer claims his fix fixed it, which it did not. They just opened a new bug with the same description.
[13:36] <h00k> That is silly.
[13:46] <BUGabundo_remote> h00k: eheh
[13:50] <Viper1432> I'll just say that with an nvidia card+prop. drivers, that x freeze is still happening over here with the latest stuff as of a short bit ago.  Clicked affects me too on that bug report.  No issues with a non nvidia rig.
[13:51] <h00k> Viper1432: heh, which of the two did you mark ;)
[13:52] <Viper1432> this one:  522692  as I believe I'd already added myself to the other awhile back.
[13:52] <h00k> I just think it's silly :/
[13:53] <Viper1432> the ctrl+printscrn+k has been my work around since plymouth + the 12 now 13 kernels were pushed.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Heyas
[14:49] <pmatulis> gah, core dump with 'aptitude update'
[14:52] <BUGabundo_remote> pmatulis: got that yesterday
[14:52] <BUGabundo_remote> then it worked fine
[14:52] <pmatulis> BUGabundo_remote: same behaviour here
[14:59] <elfy> has anyone here had, or know about, any issues running the updated amarok ?
[16:23] <Nitsuga> Hello!
[16:25] <Nitsuga> I need some help with the new nvidia package. It installs but I don't have OpenGL support. I've already tried update-alternatives and rebooting
[16:38] <BUGabundo_remote> gone
[16:38] <BUGabundo_remote> bah
[16:42] <knittl> hi
[16:42] <knittl> what can be the reason my cpu suddenly stops scaling?
[16:42] <knittl> and later for no reason scale again?
[16:43] <knittl> setting the governor to performance doesn't help either
[17:23] <cjohnston> I'm trying to upgrade today, and I'm getting an error saying ubuntu-desktop isnt installed... but it is... anyone else had an issue with this?
[17:24] <genii> cjohnston: Are you running XFCE/KDE/LXDE for a desktop?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> cjohnston, try installing gnome-desktop-environment
[17:25] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, could you verify that with "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop"
[17:25] <cjohnston> genii: nope... gnome
[17:25] <cjohnston> ZykoticK9: that says it isnt installed.. but aptitude search says it is
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and try again :)
[17:26] <cjohnston> 0 packages.. still unable to locate
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, using apt-get or aptittude?
[17:27] <cjohnston> ZykoticK9: both
[17:28] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, looks like your apt database is a little confused.  Sorry don't have any other suggestions...  best of luck
[17:30] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, you "might" want to consider trying http://paste.ubuntu.com/378474/
[17:31] <cjohnston> looking
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> cjohnston, the "2nd try" basically rebuilds apt from scratch - "if all else fails" you could try it
[17:54] <h00k> so, I've upgraded this from Karmic a while ago, but i'm still having it tell me empathy has been kept back
[17:55] <h00k> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold returns nothing
[18:02] <vish> bug #522955
[18:09] <kab> I have 3 computers is old hardware, but I want to buy a good server and load ubuntu there, I want to every old computer have a session in the server, is there any guide to help me?
[18:16] <etrusco1> kab, you should be asking this in #ubuntu
[18:16] <etrusco1> but this link may be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[18:17] <etrusco1> or just use gnome terminal server
[18:17] <kab> etrusco, thanks
[18:17] <kab> this is what I am looking for!,
[18:21] <etrusco> anybody having problems with pulseaudio (applet no even showing) for the last week or so?
[18:30] <ZykoticK9> etrusco, i can say Pulse has been very well behaved on my Lucid machine (something I could not say about Pulse on Karmic) - sorry you're having trouble - i certainly don't have any suggestions for you
[18:43] <etrusco> ok, thanks, at least it means it's something specific to my setup.
[18:43] <etrusco> i assume you update/upgrade regularly, right?
[19:15] <DanaG> hmm, random thing: about my whole dpi rant.... apparently nvidia thinks displays have INFINITY dpi.
[19:15] <DanaG> default connected 1680x1050+0+0 (0x1b4) normal (normal) 0mm x 0mm
[19:19] <etrusco> i lost the rest of your rant, and "the sytem" should pick a sane fallback, but the problem is obviously that the driver couldn't fetch your monitor physical size, or your monitor doesn't provide it fault
[19:19] <etrusco> ^W
[19:20] <DanaG> The rest of my rant was yesterday.  Or two days ago.  Or something.
[19:20] <DanaG> And this xrandr dpi being infinity... is just nvidia fail/
[19:22] <etrusco> you mean "nv" reports a correct size instead of "0mm x 0mm", right? it certainly possible. every different driver for the same hardware has a different set of problems :-/
[19:24] <DanaG> nv probably would report a correct size, though I haven't tried it.
[19:25] <DanaG> oh, and nvidia binary just doesn't do xrandr properly.
[19:25] <DanaG> oh... I should try the nouveau stuff on the thingy.
[19:26] <DanaG> Just needs xorg-edgers, right?
[19:27] <bjsnider> of course it doesn't. there is no xrandr 1.2 support in the nvidia blob yet
[19:28] <bjsnider> and it has problems when the monitor's EDID chip is busted
[19:28] <etrusco> sorry, don't know, ati user now :-/
[19:28] <etrusco> nouveau was way faster than both nv amd nvidia on 2d for a long time already ;) 3d was still a bit unstable the last time i tried it about 6 months ago
[19:29] <DanaG> My main system is now ATI, also.
[19:29] <etrusco> not much less troublesome ;) :/
[19:35] <DanaG> eh, it's more stable with radeon than with fglrx... but is hotter.
[19:35] <DanaG> Or at least, noisier.
[19:42] <etrusco> and fglrx still doesn't work with kernel .32 :-/
[19:43] <DanaG> actualy, it's worked with 32 for a while... just needed #include <sys/signal.h>.
[19:43] <DanaG> Now, the new X server, is a different issue.
[19:49] <etrusco> DanaG: oh yeah, right forgot about it. some vgaXXX function missing :-/
[19:49] <DanaG> er, use KMS.
[19:49] <DanaG> it's far nicer.
[19:50] <etrusco> hah, that's the reason i entered this channel
[19:50] <etrusco> my setup is completely crazy
[19:50] <DanaG> or use video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24@60,scroll=ywrap,blank=1
[19:50] <DanaG> substitute real resolution, of course.
[19:50] <DanaG> scroll=ywrap makes it a bit faster, and blank=1 enables console blanking on idle.
[19:51] <etrusco> will try that, thanks
[19:51] <DanaG> oh, and install v86d package.
[19:51] <DanaG> But, if you can afford the power usage, just try radeon.modeset=1
[19:51] <etrusco> my system only works with radeon module loaded, but with moset=0, and "radeon" X driver with MerfedFB
[19:51] <etrusco> otherwise it hangs or displays no image :-/
[19:52] <etrusco> but a daily cdimage from 2 days agora works perfectly with mks! :-/
[19:52] <etrusco> kms
[19:52] <etrusco> compared modules, initrd, but no deal O_o
[19:54] <etrusco> i'm trying to use two monitors BTW, but AFAICT it didn't make a difference without the second monitor
[19:55] <etrusco> what's this uvesafb module?
[19:59] <etrusco> :-(
[20:13] <greg-g> anyone experiencing boot errors
[20:13] <greg-g> ?
[20:14] <etrusco> what kind of errors?
[20:14] <greg-g> sorry, i will reboot and get more info.
[20:14] <greg-g> bsaically, failed to boot after grub.
[20:14] <greg-g> ignore me for now
[20:14] <etrusco> ok then :P
[20:14] <greg-g> :)
[20:18] <mauri_> im looking for a tool with gui for monipulate pdf file.....im using now pdfedit but it has some problems
[20:19] <tormod> did anyone have dist-upgrade wanting to pull in apache all of a sudden? I did upgrade instead, and then a new dist-upgrade and now it did not show up. strange.
[20:19] <Tscheesy> mauri_: may you ask in #ubuntu - this is channel ist to discuss the next ubuntu-release
[20:19] <mauri_> Tscheesy: im trying lucid
[20:21] <tormod> mauri_, try inkscape
[20:21] <mauri_> tormod: has it a gui?
[20:22] <greg-g> ok, got the error message for my boot error. Tried to save the general alignment of the text: http://dpaste.com/hold/160667/
[20:22] <greg-g> etrusco: ^ :)
[20:22] <tormod> mauri_, yes very much
[20:22] <greg-g> actually, that [ OK ] might be the same line as "starting init crypto disks..." hard to tell/line up
[20:23] <tormod> mauri_, but it is a drawing program
[20:23] <etrusco> tormod: i kind of remember this. what kind of additional packages do you have? any dev tool?
[20:23] <mauri_> tormod: thank you very much
[20:23] <etrusco> greg-g: do you have ATI hardware?
[20:23] <tormod> etrusco, have a bunch of dev packages yes
[20:24] <greg-g> etrusco: nope, Intel
[20:24] <etrusco> tormod: java?
[20:24] <etrusco> greg-g: did you try the recovery menu? that message usually displays right before starting X...
[20:25] <greg-g> yeah, used the dpkg option and updated all packages
[20:25] <greg-g> etrusco: I can get to a root shell from that recovery option, but not sure what to do
[20:25] <nacho_> hey
[20:25] <etrusco> greg-g: if you resume boot and start gdm, does it freeze?
[20:26] <tormod> etrusco, there was nothing java at the time. for the curious the terminal log is here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7a1f6c6b
[20:26] <nacho_> is there any reason to not include the latest version of gtranslator on lucid?
[20:27] <etrusco> nacho_: is it in debian 'testing'? (or is it 'unstable' that ubuntu pulls from?)
[20:27] <tormod> nacho_, it is feature freeze tomorrow so you can still make it :)
[20:27] <nacho_> mmm, AFAIK jordi (the debian maintainer) made the deb package
[20:28] <nacho_> it fixes quite a lot of stuff in relation to the version provided right now in ubuntu
[20:31] <greg-g> etrusco: gdm-binary WARNING: failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.13" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManger" due to security policies in the configuration file
[20:31] <greg-g> could not acquire name; bailing out
[20:32] <alex_mayorga> so no 33 kernel for lucid?
[20:32] <etrusco> tormod: sorry, nos suspects in the list :-/
[20:33] <tormod> etrusco, I just don't understand how it went away after the simple upgrade...
[20:33] <etrusco> tormod: oh, found it: gnome-user-share
[20:34] <greg-g> etrusco: after googling that error, I got this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=207862
[20:34] <etrusco> greg-g: this is sooo weird
[20:34] <greg-g> and using startx work
[20:34] <greg-g> s
[20:34] <etrusco> greg-g:is there a X running in any of the terminals?
[20:35] <greg-g> not before I startx
[20:35] <etrusco> and why is it trying to connect to screen 13? O_o
[20:35] <greg-g> dunno
[20:35] <greg-g> :(
[20:35] <greg-g> which package do you think is at fault? or, which package should I initially report this issue?
[20:36] <etrusco> so... the symptons is the is screen freezes, right?
[20:36] <greg-g> no
[20:36] <etrusco> ?
[20:36] <greg-g> booting produces this error message only: http://dpaste.com/hold/160667/
[20:36] <tormod> etrusco, I don't have gnome-user-share installed. And I did not run "update" between those dist-upgrades. hmm
[20:37] <greg-g> if boot in recovery mode, and resume booting in recovery mode (not selecting clean or dpkg etc) I can startx and it'll work
[20:37] <greg-g> but, I got that gdm-binary warning when I tried to just run gdm
[20:37] <etrusco> greg-g: they don't seem error messages, simply info messages. it's X that's failing to start
[20:38] <greg-g> well, sure, but that is what is given in the terminal after typing gdm
[20:38] <greg-g> and it not starting
[20:40] <etrusco> well, i would report it against gdm...
[20:41] <etrusco> greg-g: what were the recent changes to you system?...
[20:41] <greg-g> uh, updates last night
[20:42] <greg-g> suspend resume worked last night/this morning
[20:42] <greg-g> but then I had a hard freeze of the system about 20 minutes ago, and was greeted with these message upon reboot
[20:42] <greg-g> thought it was related to me doing some file encoding (lots o' processor) then bringing up the display properties dialog
[20:43] <etrusco> tormod: gnome-bluetooth depends on gnome-user-share
[20:44] <zniavre> good evening
[20:44] <tormod> etrusco, I have that one, and it Recommends gnome-user-share (at least now)
[20:44] <etrusco> tormod: synaptics/apt isn't very helpful in diagnosing these problems (aptitude/smartpm are much better), but the the "dependants" list sometimes is enough ;)
[20:45] <zniavre> how plymouth is supposed to look please .? i can see blue/white progressbar is that plymouth ?
[20:45] <etrusco> zniavre: yes
[20:45] <zniavre> ho ?! tahnk you
[20:45] <etrusco> tormod: ubuntu install "recommends" bu default
[20:45] <zniavre> thank*
[20:46] <rww> recommends != depends
[20:46] <etrusco> greg-g: i'm a royal noob in suspend/hibernate issues :-(
[20:46] <tormod> etrusco, ok but why did it change through the apt-get upgrade?
[20:46] <greg-g> etrusco: oh, it isn't a suspend resume issue
[20:47] <greg-g> just saying that suspend/resume worked :)
[20:47] <greg-g> before the crash
[20:47] <etrusco> err, because it was upgrading gnome-bluetooth? dist-upgrade just implies it can remove packages to fix dependencies. upgrade can install
[20:48] <tormod> etrusco, what seems strange is that "dist-upgrade" would have pulled in the Recommends, but "upgrade" + "dist-upgrade" did not
[20:49] <ripps> Recently, on the xorg-devel mailing list, a patch to fix the horrible xv quality in ati kms was released. Is it possible that it'll get backported to karmic?
[20:49] <tormod> etrusco, no, "upgrade" only upgrades packages w/o installing/removing others. dist-upgrade will satisfy dependencies so that a package with new deps can be upgraded
[20:49] <ripps> s/karmic/lucid
[20:49] <etrusco> rww: debian configured it's repository to work this way (install recommends by default) for a long time. ubuntu followed more recently. you can unmark/remove the package without breaking depencies BTW
[20:50] <rww> etrusco: I'm aware of this change. "recommends" and "depends" still do not mean the same thing in packaging sense.
[20:50] <etrusco> rww: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[20:52] <ppine> Hello, is there a possibility to get sun java 6 installed on Lucid lynx?
[20:52] <rww> etrusco: "Recommends installed by default" does not mean "Recommends and depends are now the same thing". They are not. They still function differently in e.g. package removal and complex dependency resolution.
[20:53] <BluesKaj> ppine, for flash on websites or to write javascripts?
[20:54] <etrusco> rww: i never said that?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> err java on website rather
[20:54] <BluesKaj> my mind is flashed :)
[20:55] <ppine> :) for java on websites.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> they din't find anything :P
[20:55] <ppine> The openjdk doesnt work well
[20:55] <etrusco> ppine: afaik openjdk is sun jre/jdk compiled by sun?
[20:55] <rww> etrusco: You said "gnome-bluetooth depends on gnome-user-share", which is incorrect. You then started replying to me pointing out that depends and recommends are not the same with links to Ubuntu changing to recommends by default.
[20:55] <etrusco> i mean, by canonical
[20:55] <ppine> etrusco: no idea, but it aint working where sun java was
[20:55] <ppine> www.map24.com
[20:56] <rww> and actually, gnome-bluetooth only suggests gnome-user-share, not even recommends
[20:57] <BluesKaj> ppine, just make sure you have java-common and icedtea6-plugin
[20:58] <etrusco> rww: sorry, it's in the "dependants" list, i thought gnome-bluetooth either depended or suggested it. point taken.
[20:58] <etrusco> so i have no explanation to tormod ;)
[20:59] <ppine> BluesKaj: i do but the problem is that it freezes firefox.
[20:59] <tormod> etrusco, thanks for the interest anyway
[21:01] <tormod> rww, gnome-bluetooth does recommend gnome-user-share
[21:01] <BluesKaj> ppine, and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:02] <rww> tormod: not directly, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gnome-bluetooth . Perhaps it does indirectly, I didn't check.
[21:03] <tormod> so I think if there is a new gnome-bluetooth, dist-upgrade will try to satisfy that. "upgrade" will just ignore the recommends. once the package is upgraded, dist-upgrade does not check for recommends. does that make sense, etrusco?
[21:03] <ppine> BluesKaj: all thats already done.
[21:03] <BluesKaj> ppine, which FF do you have ?
[21:03] <tormod> rww, I use apt-cache depends gnome-bluetooth
[21:03] <ppine> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100212 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6
[21:04] <BluesKaj> ppine, and how do you know that java is causing the freeze problem
[21:04] <rww> tormod: when I do that, it says "Suggests" ;P
[21:04] <etrusco> tormod: also, i stand corrected on upt-get upgrade; just read the man pages :-$
[21:05] <ppine> BluesKaj: because when i try to initiate the java applet it freezes
[21:05] <tormod> rww, it was just changed from suggests to recommends, you gotta run an update :)
[21:05] <BluesKaj> maybe it's the site itself that is the problerm
[21:05] <ppine> BluesKaj: Good answer man
[21:06] <BluesKaj> ppine, got a url ?
[21:06] <ppine> BluesKaj: http://www.map24.com
[21:07] <tormod> so dist-upgrade saw the new recommends and wanted to satisfy it. but after I had run "upgrade", this novelty was lost, and an subsequent dist-upgrade would not pick it up.
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> ppine, do you have icedtea installed?  map24 is working in my Firefox on lucid?
[21:07]  * etrusco rebooting. Crossing fingers for the latest libdrm updates to fix radeon for me :-/
[21:08] <BluesKaj> ppine, I'm getting a dialog to install java , but the map still works
[21:08] <ZykoticK9> ppine, oh wait - it disappeared and now says "wait for applet to be loaded..." but i saw the map for a moment???
[21:10] <ppine> Yup thats the static map
[21:10] <ppine> but the interactive requires java
[21:10] <ZykoticK9> I think Chomium/Chrome lacking java is a real bummer...
[21:11] <BluesKaj> ppine, i tried it a second time , and it froze in FF 3.6 , then I did it in chrome-beta and it works ok, altho i still get the "install java" prompt
[21:18] <ppine> Anyway, the question was if there is still a way to get the sun-java-jre rather then the openjdk implentation
[21:20] <alex_mayorga> ppine try icedtea
[21:20] <ppine> alex_mayorga: i am using icedtea
[21:20] <ppine> its not working
[21:20] <alex_mayorga> ppine: oh! sorry
[21:21] <alex_mayorga> ppine: maybe you can try installing the karmic package as a stopgap
[21:22] <alex_mayorga> last time I asked for sun's I was told to package it myself, which I might try
[21:23] <ppine> alex_mayorga: what is a stopgap?
[21:23] <alex_mayorga> ppine: band-aid solution
[21:23] <ppine> alex_mayorga: ok, well i wish to avoid installing something without using apt
[21:24] <ppine> eg the repo's or a ppa
[21:24] <alex_mayorga> ppine: I know and I see the point, but sun-java would just not exist on lucid last time I hear
[21:25] <ppine> alex_mayorga: 2bad then, then i will go for the nogap ;)
[21:25] <ppine> stopgap
[21:26] <alex_mayorga> ppine, what's the problematic page BTW?
[21:27] <ppine> alex_mayorga: www.map24.com
[21:28] <ppine> the interactive map is the problem
[21:35] <alex_mayorga> ppine, blank page, right?
[21:39] <alex_mayorga> ppine: kind of works after I did a search, but it's kind of stuck at "Wait for applet to be loaded..."
[21:41] <ppine> alex_mayorga: here its crashing firefox
[21:42] <alex_mayorga> ppine: I got lucky then
[21:43] <ppine> well, its not working for you neither.
[21:43] <alex_mayorga> ppine: no it's not
[21:44] <alex_mayorga> If I find the proper contact point I'll try mailing them
[21:46] <alex_mayorga> ppine: the status bar says "transferring data from 5.tl.mapt..." so maybe is just my slow connection or something
[21:54] <o_portista17> i've just updated do firefox 3.6, and now the characters are strange...is there some addon installed by default that i can uninstall ?
[21:55] <guntbert> o_portista17: does tools/add-ons show anything?
[21:56] <o_portista17> not anything new
[21:56] <guntbert> o_portista17: then probably not :)
[21:56] <o_portista17> i'm doing the upgrade from 9.10, to 10.04..it should be something that the firefox installed with ubuntu upgrades
[21:57] <charlie-tca> It might be the way mozilla is doing the anti-aliasing of the fonts
[22:15] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:15] <BUGabundo> everything holding on?
[22:16] <dupondje> eh ? :D
[22:16] <charlie-tca> barely
[22:18] <BUGabundo> oh
[22:18] <BUGabundo> ?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> other then my GDM playing hide and seek, everything else is fine
[22:18] <BUGabundo> crimsun: my sound applet seems to be OK now!
[22:28] <charlie-tca> Playing with nvidia-current again! oh, what fun that is
[22:28] <BUGabundo> naaaaa
[22:28] <BUGabundo> nouveau for the win
[22:29] <charlie-tca> Yeah, but I signed on for video driver testing weekly
[22:30] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[22:31]  * charlie-tca might be a glutton for punishment...
[22:41] <kuadrosx> hi
[22:41] <kuadrosx> I have a problem :( ... I had been updating my lucid when the system was freezed then I reboot(I forgot the upgrade process)
[22:42] <BUGabundo> kuadrosx: $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:42] <BUGabundo> and then carry on
[22:42] <kuadrosx> yeap
[22:43] <kuadrosx> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 19789 package 'libck-connector0':
[22:43] <kuadrosx> :C
[22:43] <kuadrosx> newline in field name `Architecture/.'
[22:43] <kuadrosx> BUGabundo: ↑
[22:44] <BUGabundo> errr
[22:44] <BUGabundo> that's bad
[22:44] <BUGabundo> I guess you are going to manually edit the APT db
[22:46] <kuadrosx> BUGabundo: and change Architecture/. to Architecture: all
[22:47] <BUGabundo> er?
[22:47] <BUGabundo> enh?
[22:47] <BUGabundo> or
[22:47] <BUGabundo> backup, and reinstall
[22:47] <kuadrosx> :O
[22:47] <BUGabundo> just run the live cd over, without format
[22:47] <BUGabundo> should be faster
[22:47] <BUGabundo> then manually fixing that mess
[22:47] <BUGabundo> kuadrosx: $ sudo dpkg  --configure -a --force doesn't help?
[22:48] <kuadrosx> trying
[22:48] <kuadrosx> sudo dpkg  --configure -a --force
[22:48] <kuadrosx> dpkg: --force option takes a value
[22:49] <BUGabundo> errr
[22:50] <kuadrosx> BUGabundo: there is a /var/lib/dpkg/status-old y I could use that?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> no idea
[22:50] <BUGabundo> don't want to give you false hopes
[22:55] <kuadrosx> BUGabundo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474587
[22:55] <kuadrosx> may be this scripts works? :S
[23:00] <pgoetz> I just installed the 2010-02-15 AMD64 server daily build on a machine with minimal functionality (openssh+samba)
[23:01] <pgoetz> and it booted to a grub prompt with no knowledge of root or boot information (ls gives blank result)
[23:01] <janisozaur> !info mono
[23:02] <janisozaur> what mono version will lucid be shipped with?
[23:02] <pgoetz> huh?  This is #ubuntu+1
[23:02] <pgoetz> Same server, same installation procedure with 9.10 AMD64 server = no problems.
[23:03] <pgoetz> Only change is root partition when from 2TB to 3TB -- did this upset ext4 somehow?
[23:07] <Takyoji> !info mono-runtime
[23:14] <AlanBell> I am having some problems with Lucid AMD64, as soon as I press return it locks up X. I could SSH in and restart GDM, but that seems upset now, failing with "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager"
[23:14] <rww> AlanBell: known bug, workaround right now is to remove "plymouth"
[23:14] <AlanBell> rww thanks
[23:14] <AlanBell> apt-get remove plymouth?
[23:14] <rww> yep
[23:15] <AlanBell> cool
[23:21] <DanaG> argh, g-p-m brightness control doesn't work for me.
[23:21] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f1f79b569
[23:31] <crimsun> BUGabundo: I couldn't reproduce your applet symptoms anyhow