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throughnothingHow do i tweak/modify/play with my synaptic touchpad settings with devicekit in lucid00:07
TakyojiApparently my Ethernet connection is no longer functional after I attempted hibernation..00:08
Takyoji(which didn't return to it's original state when the system was started)00:08
TakyojiTried restarting; nothing changed.00:09
LADmaticCAanyone have trouble with usb sticks? Mine won't auto mount anymore00:24
BluesKajLADmaticCA, connect one then do lsusb in a terminal00:36
LADmaticCABluesKaj, Okay i did that. I see the Lexar usb stick00:37
BluesKajLADmaticCA, does it show up in places?00:38
LADmaticCABluesKaj, nope00:39
LADmaticCABluesKaj, perhaps I should mention I edited my fstab file, but I only made changes to my internal sata disks. That wouldn't effect my usb sticks would it?00:41
BluesKajsudo mount /dev/usbname00:41
BluesKajLADmaticCA, yeah, the usbs shouldn't be affected00:42
LADmaticCABluesKaj, the stick is listed as sdd1. When I tried that command I got "mount: can't find /dev/sdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"00:44
LADmaticCABluesKaj, interesting, My Disk Utility program appears broken too. It just says "Null" in parenthesis00:46
BluesKajLADmaticCA, ok with the stick still connected, sudo blkid00:46
LADmaticCABluesKaj, Okay, I got "/dev/sdd1: UUID="3D0DE5552B4B69CE" TYPE="ntfs" .....for the stick00:48
BluesKajLADmaticCA, not sure , but try copying that line into fstab, without the quotes00:53
TakyojiSo for my case of Ethernet no longer working anymore after attempting hibernation; should I report that, or what could I try to make it operational again?00:57
Takyoji""00:58
Takyoji"Networking Disabled" is what the connection manager applet implies00:58
BluesKajLADmaticCA, i really don't think editing fstab will work...your usb device should show up in nautilus without fstsb help.00:59
LADmaticCALADmaticCA, yeah I got an error about ntfs-3g when i tried adding it and it crashed nautilus00:59
BluesKajLADmaticCA, sorry , i have to go ... maybe someone with more expertise with this can help01:03
TakyojiStupid mistake on my end; the "Enable Networking" checkmark wasn't checked...01:29
LiraNunawhat did smtpd_sasl_path change to in lucid?01:41
LiraNunait used to be /var/run/dovecot/private/auth01:41
billybigrigger_hey all02:55
gghhttyydoes anyone here know of problems with snx?03:03
gghhttyyas in, it connects and works for a few minutes, then all networking stops until you kill snx?03:04
gghhttyyanyone here using snx?03:06
gghhttyycheckpoint vpn?03:07
gghhttyy_has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) with lucid?03:12
DanaGargh, is it a "feature" that the networkmanager thingy only says "Wired Network disconnected", and not WHICH NETWORK CARD?03:16
gghhttyy_has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) with lucid?03:17
gghhttyydoes anyone here use checkpoint snx?03:20
gghhttyydoes anyone here use checkpoint snx?03:28
DanaG!repeat03:37
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.03:37
gghhttyy_has anyone here tried using snx (checkpoint) on lucid?03:47
billybigrigger_!find libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.004:03
ubottuFile libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0 found in libwxgtk2.8-004:03
billybigrigger_hmm04:05
billybigrigger_have that package installed04:05
billybigrigger_wtf04:05
billybigrigger_anyone here familiar with redsn0w?04:05
DanaGweird... my pulseaudio keeps dropping out from network streaming.04:11
DanaGAnd my system keeps dhp-requesting on an interface that's set to give it an infinite lease time... so there's no valid reason for it to be dhcp-requesting over and over.04:11
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DanaGARGH04:19
DanaG why the heck does ubuntu keep dhcp-requesting over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and04:19
DanaGover... despite having been given an INFINITE lease time?04:19
DanaGFeb 16 22:22:28 beagleboard pulseaudio[890]: memblock.c: Pool full04:23
jdobrienhi all, i installed lucid from the Cd on a clean system. at the login screen my keyboard and mouse don't work04:41
jdobrieni say clean system...on a clean partition, not an upgrade04:42
DanaGargh, alsa-info.sh overwrote itself with a 0-byte file.04:48
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DanaGweird... this SOC has some weird volume controls.05:04
DanaGLike, the line-out is "headset", not "earpiece".05:04
DanaGwell, I guess that does make some sense.05:04
om26ercan someone please run gwibber and evolution and see if there is a separator between them in indicator applet or not05:05
DanaGweird... the omap3beagle sound thingy doesn't show up as a thingy in /sys/modules05:07
jdobrienaha! I have the 'Enter key" bug!05:12
DanaGFeb 16 23:17:35 beagleboard pulseaudio[2942]: protocol-native.c: Underrun on 'omap3beagle Analog Stereo for dana@EliteBook', 0 bytes in queue.05:18
DanaGargh!05:18
tgpraveen12om26er: there isnt05:23
om26ertgpraveen12, would you please make a comment at this bug report please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/442608/05:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 442608 in indicator-applet "no separator between evolution and gwibber when evolution is running" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:24
tgpraveen12the bug should be in05:25
tgpraveen12message-indicator05:25
om26ertgpraveen12, indicator-messages?05:25
tgpraveen12yeah something like that05:27
tgpraveen12i forgot whats the exact name05:27
tgpraveen12u have put indicator-application05:27
tgpraveen12maybe that is the one. they have changed the name in each cycle05:27
tgpraveen12anyways i marked the bug as affecting me05:27
tgpraveen12to evolution users how do i sort my mail by date descending order05:32
tgpraveen12ie newlest mail at top05:32
tgpraveen12currently it is latest mail at bottom05:32
TakyojiShould be able to just click on "Date" column again, and it'll sort it in the opposite order05:34
tgpraveen12Takyoji: hmm yeah that worked thx05:39
vishtgpraveen12: om26er: the bug is kind of a moot point.. the menu is being redesigned ;)  [not sure what the real end result will be though]05:39
tgpraveen12the reason why i didnt think of it is that date colum doesnt have a comlumn heading/title05:40
tgpraveen12so wasnt sure if it exists though dates are shown next to the emails05:40
om26ervish, ah, I just reported another bug for indicator messages. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/52302205:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 523022 in indicator-messages "contact comes online notification comes in empathy's separator" [Undecided,New]05:40
om26eroops wrong description05:41
vish;)05:41
DanaGratelimit.c: 470 events suppressed             memblock.c: Pool full                 last message repeated 10 times05:41
DanaGARGH05:41
vishtgpraveen12: just click on the column header , just like in all other apps05:41
* vish oops just noticed tgpraveen12 already found the answer05:41
tgpraveen12vish: but different apps should have different sections in the messagin menu right?05:44
tgpraveen12or even that concept is being redesigned05:44
vishtgpraveen12: yeah , probably the sections would be needed.. all i heard was the menu was being changed :)05:45
tgpraveen12vish: ok. btw the new icons for messaging menu when a new message arrives is superb :-005:46
tgpraveen12:-)05:46
* om26er likes the new color of indicator messages when a message arrives05:46
vishthanks :D05:46
* om26er wishes battery's green colour would match the green in MeMenu05:50
kklimondareport a bug05:51
vishom26er: the battery green color is not for "charging" , but rather for when charge is completed05:53
om26eryes05:53
vishom26er: it is to grab more attention... while the rest can be subtle05:54
om26ervish, we will see some other changes in humanity too ?05:54
vishom26er: not sure what you mean... which icons?05:55
vishom26er: or are you asking for sending screenshot to OMG ;p05:55
om26ervish, in the application menu 'internet' icon was changed. I am asking this kind of changes05:56
vishom26er: ah , yeah , that one was changed  , since all those icons we yellow and the menu looked jaundiced :s05:57
vishs/we/were05:57
vishom26er: i dont think there'd be anything new.. more of bug fixes only until release..05:59
om26ervish, last question sorry for the annoyance. will battery applet get ported to indicator applications for lucid?06:00
vishom26er: i think it was just done06:00
vishom26er: > Bug 49787006:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 497870 in gnome-media "Support Application Indicators" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49787006:00
tgpraveen12vish: the color of status icon of me menu is going to go away right?06:01
vishom26er: ah , the battery icons would look a bit different when that update lands :)06:01
vishtgpraveen12: Bug #52269806:01
kklimondatgpraveen12: what? why? :/06:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522698 in indicator-me "latest update breaks monochrome" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52269806:01
kklimondaI like it :/06:01
tgpraveen12i also want the battery icon to have the green of me menu. it will still attract attention as rest all will be monochrome and using same set of colors will make it more consistent etc06:02
tgpraveen12kklimonda: atest update breaks monochrome06:02
om26ervish, what comes in gnome-media?06:02
vishnot sure..06:03
vishtgpraveen12: well , the memenu will loose its color ;p06:03
tgpraveen12om26er: nothing. it was originally supposed to be for volume control one06:03
om26erah, ok06:04
om26erseems to me like power managers build failed06:05
vishom26er: there are a few more icons in humanity which aernt being used atm , they are awaiting app support for indicator-application06:06
om26ertransmission got ported to application indicator it came in the updates06:07
tgpraveen12i am noticing that the new icons like for messaging menu, me menu look very good with dark themes like new wave06:10
tgpraveen12green on black. me like.06:11
om26erIndicator applications really rock. its awesome06:14
alkisgIs freenx going to be available for Lucid? Is neatx in a working state? https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa06:20
kklimondaalkisg: I don't think so unless there is already a fairly advanced ticket about it06:23
om26er!info mono06:23
Zer_Howdy. Is there any chance Ubuntu 10.04 will package Mono 2.6 instead of 2.4?06:23
alkisgkklimonda: erm sorry I didn't express myself correctly. I didn't mean in the official Ubuntu archive, I meant "available in the freenx PPA" - right now it isn't there for Lucid...06:24
ubottuPackage mono does not exist in lucid06:24
om26erubottu, that was quick ;)06:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:24
kklimondaalkisg: it is the wrong channel to ask about it then - send an email to PPA maintainer06:25
alkisgkklimonda: ok thanks, I just thought others using Lucid would also be interested in using freenx, and maybe someone would have some information about it.06:26
kklimondaZer_: I don't think so - it was released few months ago and if there were plans to include it someone would have already done it06:27
alkisgkklimonda: btw, are people allowed to ask in this channel about other software not in the Ubuntu archives, like vbox or googleearth?06:29
alkisg(I mean, for usage/problems in Lucid of course...)06:29
kklimondaalkisg: sure - don't know if you are going to get a response but I think we have at least some people running closed version of vbox06:30
om26erthis bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/522698 say that the new icons break monochrome, so the green icon of indicator messages wont break monochrome?06:31
alkisgI don't have a specific question, I was just wondering about the channel policy. Thank you :)06:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 522698 in indicator-me "latest update breaks monochrome" [Medium,Triaged]06:31
kklimondaom26er: I think the idea is the green indicator messages are shown only when there is an event waiting for your action06:32
Zer_Hmm, that's a damn shame. It's got some very significant improvements that would be worth having06:32
kklimondaom26er: and the status icon is always green/red when you are logged in to the IM06:32
vishom26er: the "new" will stay that way.. many were complaining they couldnt tell the difference when mail arrived06:59
om26ervish, that would be better07:00
eagles0513875can anyone point me in the right direction to getting one of the repos fixed07:19
eagles0513875its been broken for the last 3 days. i can give you the ip for it but just not sure where to go to get it fixed07:20
DanaGnice: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Palimpsest%20Disk%20Utility.png07:24
vishom26er: was it you who asked for the transmission icon?07:48
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om26ervish, I guess no.07:49
* vish needs someone to file a bug to add an icon for that ;)07:49
om26ervish, its also gonna get monochrome?07:49
om26ervish, I will do that07:50
om26ervish, where will it go? humanity or transmission?07:51
vishom26er: humanity07:51
om26erhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/humanity/+bug/52304807:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 523048 in humanity-icon-theme "transmission needs a monochrome icon" [Undecided,New]07:55
vishneato.. :)07:55
edakiriWhat program/package builds the initrd?08:23
RAOFupdate-initrd08:25
edakirithat helped enough for me to find     initramfs-tools: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs08:30
RAOFWhoops.  Silly me!  Sorlry.08:30
DanaGnice news item:09:00
DanaG    The alias extension does not exist anymore as its fonctionnalities are now  in mercurial core. To avoid spurious warning about failed loading of  extension, users just have to remove it in their hgrc file.09:01
DanaGthat's copy-and-paste.09:01
DanaG"fonctionnalities"09:01
DanaGAwesome.09:01
BUGabundo_remoteDanaG: want good news: we now have DOUBLE gdms09:01
DanaGwait, what?09:01
BUGabundo_remoteon this morning boot, GDM went GREEN09:01
DanaGoh, and another awesome:09:02
BUGabundo_remoteI jumped to TTY09:02
DanaGwww.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Palimpsest%20Disk%20Utility.png09:02
BUGabundo_remoteand wrote: sudo gdm stop09:02
BUGabundo_remoteguess what happen?09:02
BUGabundo_remoteX started09:02
BUGabundo_remoteLOLOLOL09:02
BUGabundo_remote[reminder] and wrote: sudo gdm *stop*09:02
DanaGNice disk utility. =þ09:03
BUGabundo_remoteeheh09:03
DanaG(null)09:04
phildiniHi. I'm using the most recent Lucid alpha, and I had a question about updates. Is anyone available?09:19
SwedeMikephildini: just ask, don't ask to ask.09:20
phildiniwhen I update via apt-get upgrade, I get some upgrades following a long list of packages that are being held back. some of these held back packages are preventing me from submitting apport reports since they're not the latest version. why are some package updates held back and should I change those settings?09:22
Ian_Corneuse dist-upgrade09:24
Ian_Corneinstead of upgrade09:24
Ian_Cornebe careful tho, look at the "packages to remove" bit09:24
phildiniare the packages kept back for a reason?09:24
Ian_CorneI think it's either because they will remove another package or they will install new packages09:25
phildiniok.09:25
phildiniis there a lucid team site I can check to see current status and if using dist-upgrade is a good idea?09:28
Ian_CorneI think your best bet is here :p09:31
Ian_Corneif dist-upgrade doesn't remove whole applications it should be fine,09:32
BUGabundo_remotephildini: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade09:32
Ian_Cornei've had a few that removed a lib to replace it with a newer version09:32
Ian_CorneBUGabundo_remote: will that upgrade everything?09:32
BUGabundo_remoteand that's done try WITH CAUTION sudo aptitude full-upgrade09:32
BUGabundo_remoteIan_Corne: full-upgrade will09:33
BUGabundo_remote:p09:33
Ian_Corne:p09:33
phildinithanks. that was my main concern, currently it looks like nothing breaks.09:33
BUGabundo_remotephildini: dist upgrade IS NEVER a good idea09:33
BUGabundo_remotespecially on a devel version09:33
Ian_Cornehm09:33
phildinihmm..09:33
Ian_CorneI always use it :o09:33
BUGabundo_remoteI wonder why you don't complain as much as DanaG then :09:33
BUGabundo_remote:909:33
phildinii've used it once or twice. what's the logic behind that?09:33
BUGabundo_remotephildini: to break stuff, so we can report probs :D09:34
Ian_CorneBUGabundo_remote: just doesn't like apt-get he's an aptitude man!09:34
Ian_Corne:p09:34
DanaGI have certain things that really irk me to no end... and that's what I complain about.09:34
DanaG09:34
Ian_CorneI had to remove my encrypted home09:35
Ian_Corneit kept clogging up on login09:35
phildinithanks for all the help.09:36
BUGabundo_remoteIan_Corne: naaaa, that's plymouth09:37
* BUGabundo_remote blames everything in plymouth09:37
Ian_Cornehehe, i get to GDM np09:39
Ian_Cornei'm on my eee tho :p09:39
Ian_Cornemy desktop with nvidia doesn't have any clean boot process :p09:39
Ian_Cornebut it's been trough every alpha since gutsy so...09:40
BUGabundo_remoteand using dist upgrade :D09:42
Ian_Corneuhu09:44
Ian_CorneI don't even dare to use it to base bugreports on anymore :p09:45
DanaGhmm, will this end up in ubuntu-mozilla-daily?09:48
DanaGhttp://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/09:48
eagles0513875bah this is just great :(09:55
eagles0513875just upgraded from karmic to lucid and it seems to either hang or take a really long time to load for me :(09:55
eagles0513875morning BUGabundo_remote09:57
edakirieagles0513875: when you log in or when?09:59
eagles0513875edakiri: no prior to that09:59
edakiriit may seem to hang when you log in to the console as well, but is really checking for network updates09:59
eagles0513875console is fine for me09:59
eagles0513875well there is a nasty package which is black listed10:00
DanaGhttp://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-lucid-20100216-3.png  -- wow, that's a huge bootchart.10:01
DanaGBogs down firefox, too.10:01
BUGabundo_remoteDanaG: LOOOOL10:04
BUGabundo_remoteeagles0513875: known bug10:05
BUGabundo_remoteohh before login ?10:05
* BUGabundo_remote will still blame plymouth10:05
eagles0513875ya i know10:06
eagles0513875well im desktopless atm till that is fixed10:06
BUGabundo_remoteeagles0513875: remove plymouth10:07
eagles0513875??10:08
BUGabundo_remoteand stop gdm, then start it again10:08
eagles0513875im on kubuntu10:08
eagles0513875trying to install kubuntu-desktop10:08
BUGabundo_remotetrying??10:08
BUGabundo_remotewasn't it an upgrade?10:08
eagles0513875ya it was but the libmysqlclient16 is broken and has been black listed so i cant install kubuntu10:08
kklimondaoh, it's blacklisted? where can I read about it?10:09
DanaGMy bootcharts rather suck.10:11
DanaGer, login times, more correctly.10:11
BUGabundo_remoteahhh10:13
BUGabundo_remoteso that's why ppl come here complaining about it10:13
kklimondaheh.. we should probably stop breaking lucid and start fixing it if we are aiming for the end of april :/10:15
* kklimonda got hit by "enter kills X" bug..10:15
BUGabundo_remotelol10:16
DanaGYour computer failed to suspend.10:17
DanaGThe failure was reported as: Cannot suspend10:17
DanaGuh... what?10:17
DanaGAnd it didn't even lock my screen.10:19
eagles0513875well i got hit with libmysqlclient16 bug whre its blacklisted in the repo but breaks upgrade process10:23
eagles0513875not to mention i cant even install kde again10:23
eagles0513875at least i have gnome10:24
eagles0513875bbl10:27
om26erwhat is the non-technical term for 'client side decorations' ?10:32
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BUGabundo_remoteI beet that mysql but has to do with neupomuk10:33
mister_robotodoes anyone here know anything about snx? the vpn software from checkpoint?11:00
mister_robotohaving a problem but don't know how to usefully report it to the devs11:00
gnomefreak!bugs11:12
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:12
gnomefreakmister_roboto: ^^^11:12
mister_robotognomefreak: thanks. my problem is not so much where to report but *what*  :)  I wanted to volunteer to get more info as it would be a bit vague if I wrote it up knowing what I do now11:13
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gnomefreakmister_roboto: than try launchpad answers11:19
gnomefreakor sak in here when others are around11:19
mister_robotognomefreak: will do. thanks11:19
gnomefreaks/sak/ask11:19
mister_robotols11:21
mister_robotooops, wrong window!11:21
schmidtmany news on the nvidia suspend problem11:30
tgpraveen12info banshee11:35
tgpraveen12!info banshee11:36
ubottubanshee (source: banshee): Media Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-1 (lucid), package size 2744 kB, installed size 9536 kB11:36
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SirNothusHi all13:02
ikoniahello13:02
SirNothusGot a bit of a bug with 10.4 that has been biting me for the past couple of days13:02
SirNothusMachine hangs solid after entering password on login screen13:03
SirNothusHave brought it up in single user mode and have been applying updates for the last 3 days but doesn't seem to have fixed it13:04
SirNothusIt's an upgrade from 9.10 that was working fine13:04
SirNothusAlso runs Win7 fine..13:05
SirNothus64bit desktop version13:05
SirNothusAMD PhenomII and a NVidia GTX26013:05
SirNothusTried switching to console, no go.. It's locked solid13:06
SirNothusHmm, looks like I should have bought coffee13:11
PiciWhat DE?13:11
BUGabundo_remoteSirNothus: known bug13:12
ikoniaBUGabundo_remote: got the details ?13:12
BUGabundo_remotelet me get the bug id13:12
SirNothusDE?13:12
h00kI believe it's a problem with plymouth13:12
BUGabundo_remoteyes13:12
PiciDesktop Environment (gnome/kde/whatever).13:12
* Pici hasn't rebooted or relogged in a bit13:12
SirNothusAhh stock, so Gnome13:12
BUGabundo_remotehttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/51805813:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 518058 in plymouth "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12 (dup-of: 516412)" [High,New]13:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 516412 in plymouth "Pressing <Enter> causes X to freeze" [High,Fix released]13:13
BUGabundo_remoteit says fixed, but lots of ppl still complaining13:13
h00khttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/51641213:13
BUGabundo_remoteso I guess there's another bug there13:13
rwwoh hey, i get that sometimes13:13
BUGabundo_remoterww: LOL13:13
PiciIs the fix built yet?13:13
h00kYeah, I'd be one that says it's not fixed13:13
h00kPici: yeah, and released.13:13
BUGabundo_remoteeither ALWAYS or not13:13
BUGabundo_remotepici Fix released13:13
PiciBUGabundo_remote: If it was recent, it doesnt mean that the packages were built yet.13:14
h00kExcept it doesn't fix this problem, they suggested to open another bug.  That's silly.13:14
* Pici hasn't clicked the link yet, is lazy this morning.13:14
h00kPici: no, the fix went to the repos13:14
Picih00k: okay :)13:14
h00kPici: it's sort of an argument ongoing on that bug :(13:14
rwwDoes removing plymouth fix it?13:14
BUGabundo_remotePici:  it was last week13:15
h00krww: yep!13:15
BUGabundo_remoterww: yes13:15
* BUGabundo_remote is lagged as hell13:15
rwwI guess I'll do that, then ;P13:15
SirNothusJust going to boot up my desktop and I'll try removing plymouth13:18
SirNothusNext question... What does plymouth do?13:18
h00kSirNothus: provides that nifty logo and a flicker-free startup sequence13:18
SirNothusAhh, I won't miss it then.. I'm a hard core geek dammit. I want scrolling text, it makes people think I'm l33t :-p13:19
SirNothusYeah, that really does fix it..13:21
SirNothusI have all the available updates as of about 10 minutes ago, so it doesn't seem to have been pushed out, or the fix didnt work13:21
SirNothusThe version I just removed was 0.8.0~-1013:25
h00kyep.13:25
SirNothusWell, I guess that's it.. It's a known bug, and there should be a fix around somewhere.. I'll leave you too it and head back to bed like I was planning13:30
SirNothusThanks all13:30
h00kSo, that plymouth bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/52269213:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 522692 in plymouth "Pressing <Enter> key causes X to freeze" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:35
h00kThe developer claims his fix fixed it, which it did not. They just opened a new bug with the same description.13:36
h00kThat is silly.13:36
BUGabundo_remoteh00k: eheh13:46
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Viper1432I'll just say that with an nvidia card+prop. drivers, that x freeze is still happening over here with the latest stuff as of a short bit ago.  Clicked affects me too on that bug report.  No issues with a non nvidia rig.13:50
h00kViper1432: heh, which of the two did you mark ;)13:51
Viper1432this one:  522692  as I believe I'd already added myself to the other awhile back.13:52
h00kI just think it's silly :/13:52
Viper1432the ctrl+printscrn+k has been my work around since plymouth + the 12 now 13 kernels were pushed.13:53
BluesKajHeyas14:32
pmatulisgah, core dump with 'aptitude update'14:49
BUGabundo_remotepmatulis: got that yesterday14:52
BUGabundo_remotethen it worked fine14:52
pmatulisBUGabundo_remote: same behaviour here14:52
elfyhas anyone here had, or know about, any issues running the updated amarok ?14:59
NitsugaHello!16:23
NitsugaI need some help with the new nvidia package. It installs but I don't have OpenGL support. I've already tried update-alternatives and rebooting16:25
BUGabundo_remotegone16:38
BUGabundo_remotebah16:38
knittlhi16:42
knittlwhat can be the reason my cpu suddenly stops scaling?16:42
knittland later for no reason scale again?16:42
knittlsetting the governor to performance doesn't help either16:43
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cjohnstonI'm trying to upgrade today, and I'm getting an error saying ubuntu-desktop isnt installed... but it is... anyone else had an issue with this?17:23
geniicjohnston: Are you running XFCE/KDE/LXDE for a desktop?17:24
BluesKajcjohnston, try installing gnome-desktop-environment17:24
ZykoticK9cjohnston, could you verify that with "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop"17:25
cjohnstongenii: nope... gnome17:25
cjohnstonZykoticK9: that says it isnt installed.. but aptitude search says it is17:25
ZykoticK9cjohnston, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and try again :)17:26
cjohnston0 packages.. still unable to locate17:26
ZykoticK9cjohnston, using apt-get or aptittude?17:26
cjohnstonZykoticK9: both17:27
ZykoticK9cjohnston, looks like your apt database is a little confused.  Sorry don't have any other suggestions...  best of luck17:28
ZykoticK9cjohnston, you "might" want to consider trying http://paste.ubuntu.com/378474/17:30
cjohnstonlooking17:31
ZykoticK9cjohnston, the "2nd try" basically rebuilds apt from scratch - "if all else fails" you could try it17:32
h00kso, I've upgraded this from Karmic a while ago, but i'm still having it tell me empathy has been kept back17:54
h00kdpkg --get-selections | grep hold returns nothing17:55
vishbug #52295518:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522955 in rhythmbox "Indicator starts up playing" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52295518:02
kabI have 3 computers is old hardware, but I want to buy a good server and load ubuntu there, I want to every old computer have a session in the server, is there any guide to help me?18:09
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etrusco1kab, you should be asking this in #ubuntu18:16
etrusco1but this link may be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP18:16
etrusco1or just use gnome terminal server18:17
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kabetrusco, thanks18:17
kabthis is what I am looking for!,18:17
etruscoanybody having problems with pulseaudio (applet no even showing) for the last week or so?18:21
ZykoticK9etrusco, i can say Pulse has been very well behaved on my Lucid machine (something I could not say about Pulse on Karmic) - sorry you're having trouble - i certainly don't have any suggestions for you18:30
etruscook, thanks, at least it means it's something specific to my setup.18:43
etruscoi assume you update/upgrade regularly, right?18:43
DanaGhmm, random thing: about my whole dpi rant.... apparently nvidia thinks displays have INFINITY dpi.19:15
DanaGdefault connected 1680x1050+0+0 (0x1b4) normal (normal) 0mm x 0mm19:15
etruscoi lost the rest of your rant, and "the sytem" should pick a sane fallback, but the problem is obviously that the driver couldn't fetch your monitor physical size, or your monitor doesn't provide it fault19:19
etrusco^W19:19
DanaGThe rest of my rant was yesterday.  Or two days ago.  Or something.19:20
DanaGAnd this xrandr dpi being infinity... is just nvidia fail/19:20
etruscoyou mean "nv" reports a correct size instead of "0mm x 0mm", right? it certainly possible. every different driver for the same hardware has a different set of problems :-/19:22
DanaGnv probably would report a correct size, though I haven't tried it.19:24
DanaGoh, and nvidia binary just doesn't do xrandr properly.19:25
DanaGoh... I should try the nouveau stuff on the thingy.19:25
DanaGJust needs xorg-edgers, right?19:26
bjsniderof course it doesn't. there is no xrandr 1.2 support in the nvidia blob yet19:27
bjsniderand it has problems when the monitor's EDID chip is busted19:28
etruscosorry, don't know, ati user now :-/19:28
etrusconouveau was way faster than both nv amd nvidia on 2d for a long time already ;) 3d was still a bit unstable the last time i tried it about 6 months ago19:28
DanaGMy main system is now ATI, also.19:29
etrusconot much less troublesome ;) :/19:29
DanaGeh, it's more stable with radeon than with fglrx... but is hotter.19:35
DanaGOr at least, noisier.19:35
etruscoand fglrx still doesn't work with kernel .32 :-/19:42
DanaGactualy, it's worked with 32 for a while... just needed #include <sys/signal.h>.19:43
DanaGNow, the new X server, is a different issue.19:43
etruscoDanaG: oh yeah, right forgot about it. some vgaXXX function missing :-/19:49
DanaGer, use KMS.19:49
DanaGit's far nicer.19:49
etruscohah, that's the reason i entered this channel19:50
etruscomy setup is completely crazy19:50
DanaGor use video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x768-24@60,scroll=ywrap,blank=119:50
DanaGsubstitute real resolution, of course.19:50
DanaGscroll=ywrap makes it a bit faster, and blank=1 enables console blanking on idle.19:50
etruscowill try that, thanks19:51
DanaGoh, and install v86d package.19:51
DanaGBut, if you can afford the power usage, just try radeon.modeset=119:51
etruscomy system only works with radeon module loaded, but with moset=0, and "radeon" X driver with MerfedFB19:51
etruscootherwise it hangs or displays no image :-/19:51
etruscobut a daily cdimage from 2 days agora works perfectly with mks! :-/19:52
etruscokms19:52
etruscocompared modules, initrd, but no deal O_o19:52
etruscoi'm trying to use two monitors BTW, but AFAICT it didn't make a difference without the second monitor19:54
etruscowhat's this uvesafb module?19:55
etrusco:-(19:59
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greg-ganyone experiencing boot errors20:13
greg-g?20:13
etruscowhat kind of errors?20:14
greg-gsorry, i will reboot and get more info.20:14
greg-gbsaically, failed to boot after grub.20:14
greg-gignore me for now20:14
etruscook then :P20:14
greg-g:)20:14
mauri_im looking for a tool with gui for monipulate pdf file.....im using now pdfedit but it has some problems20:18
tormoddid anyone have dist-upgrade wanting to pull in apache all of a sudden? I did upgrade instead, and then a new dist-upgrade and now it did not show up. strange.20:19
Tscheesymauri_: may you ask in #ubuntu - this is channel ist to discuss the next ubuntu-release20:19
mauri_Tscheesy: im trying lucid20:19
tormodmauri_, try inkscape20:21
mauri_tormod: has it a gui?20:21
greg-gok, got the error message for my boot error. Tried to save the general alignment of the text: http://dpaste.com/hold/160667/20:22
greg-getrusco: ^ :)20:22
tormodmauri_, yes very much20:22
greg-gactually, that [ OK ] might be the same line as "starting init crypto disks..." hard to tell/line up20:22
tormodmauri_, but it is a drawing program20:23
etruscotormod: i kind of remember this. what kind of additional packages do you have? any dev tool?20:23
mauri_tormod: thank you very much20:23
etruscogreg-g: do you have ATI hardware?20:23
tormodetrusco, have a bunch of dev packages yes20:23
greg-getrusco: nope, Intel20:24
etruscotormod: java?20:24
etruscogreg-g: did you try the recovery menu? that message usually displays right before starting X...20:24
greg-gyeah, used the dpkg option and updated all packages20:25
greg-getrusco: I can get to a root shell from that recovery option, but not sure what to do20:25
nacho_hey20:25
etruscogreg-g: if you resume boot and start gdm, does it freeze?20:25
tormodetrusco, there was nothing java at the time. for the curious the terminal log is here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7a1f6c6b20:26
nacho_is there any reason to not include the latest version of gtranslator on lucid?20:26
etrusconacho_: is it in debian 'testing'? (or is it 'unstable' that ubuntu pulls from?)20:27
tormodnacho_, it is feature freeze tomorrow so you can still make it :)20:27
nacho_mmm, AFAIK jordi (the debian maintainer) made the deb package20:27
nacho_it fixes quite a lot of stuff in relation to the version provided right now in ubuntu20:28
greg-getrusco: gdm-binary WARNING: failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.13" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManger" due to security policies in the configuration file20:31
greg-gcould not acquire name; bailing out20:31
alex_mayorgaso no 33 kernel for lucid?20:32
etruscotormod: sorry, nos suspects in the list :-/20:32
tormodetrusco, I just don't understand how it went away after the simple upgrade...20:33
etruscotormod: oh, found it: gnome-user-share20:33
greg-getrusco: after googling that error, I got this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=20786220:34
etruscogreg-g: this is sooo weird20:34
greg-gand using startx work20:34
greg-gs20:34
etruscogreg-g:is there a X running in any of the terminals?20:34
greg-gnot before I startx20:35
etruscoand why is it trying to connect to screen 13? O_o20:35
greg-gdunno20:35
greg-g:(20:35
greg-gwhich package do you think is at fault? or, which package should I initially report this issue?20:35
etruscoso... the symptons is the is screen freezes, right?20:36
greg-gno20:36
etrusco?20:36
greg-gbooting produces this error message only: http://dpaste.com/hold/160667/20:36
tormodetrusco, I don't have gnome-user-share installed. And I did not run "update" between those dist-upgrades. hmm20:36
greg-gif boot in recovery mode, and resume booting in recovery mode (not selecting clean or dpkg etc) I can startx and it'll work20:37
greg-gbut, I got that gdm-binary warning when I tried to just run gdm20:37
etruscogreg-g: they don't seem error messages, simply info messages. it's X that's failing to start20:37
greg-gwell, sure, but that is what is given in the terminal after typing gdm20:38
greg-gand it not starting20:38
etruscowell, i would report it against gdm...20:40
etruscogreg-g: what were the recent changes to you system?...20:41
greg-guh, updates last night20:41
greg-gsuspend resume worked last night/this morning20:42
greg-gbut then I had a hard freeze of the system about 20 minutes ago, and was greeted with these message upon reboot20:42
greg-gthought it was related to me doing some file encoding (lots o' processor) then bringing up the display properties dialog20:42
etruscotormod: gnome-bluetooth depends on gnome-user-share20:43
zniavregood evening20:44
tormodetrusco, I have that one, and it Recommends gnome-user-share (at least now)20:44
etruscotormod: synaptics/apt isn't very helpful in diagnosing these problems (aptitude/smartpm are much better), but the the "dependants" list sometimes is enough ;)20:44
zniavrehow plymouth is supposed to look please .? i can see blue/white progressbar is that plymouth ?20:45
etruscozniavre: yes20:45
zniavreho ?! tahnk you20:45
etruscotormod: ubuntu install "recommends" bu default20:45
zniavrethank*20:45
rwwrecommends != depends20:46
etruscogreg-g: i'm a royal noob in suspend/hibernate issues :-(20:46
tormodetrusco, ok but why did it change through the apt-get upgrade?20:46
greg-getrusco: oh, it isn't a suspend resume issue20:46
greg-gjust saying that suspend/resume worked :)20:47
greg-gbefore the crash20:47
etruscoerr, because it was upgrading gnome-bluetooth? dist-upgrade just implies it can remove packages to fix dependencies. upgrade can install20:47
tormodetrusco, what seems strange is that "dist-upgrade" would have pulled in the Recommends, but "upgrade" + "dist-upgrade" did not20:48
rippsRecently, on the xorg-devel mailing list, a patch to fix the horrible xv quality in ati kms was released. Is it possible that it'll get backported to karmic?20:49
tormodetrusco, no, "upgrade" only upgrades packages w/o installing/removing others. dist-upgrade will satisfy dependencies so that a package with new deps can be upgraded20:49
rippss/karmic/lucid20:49
etruscorww: debian configured it's repository to work this way (install recommends by default) for a long time. ubuntu followed more recently. you can unmark/remove the package without breaking depencies BTW20:49
rwwetrusco: I'm aware of this change. "recommends" and "depends" still do not mean the same thing in packaging sense.20:50
etruscorww: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/90420:50
ppineHello, is there a possibility to get sun java 6 installed on Lucid lynx?20:52
rwwetrusco: "Recommends installed by default" does not mean "Recommends and depends are now the same thing". They are not. They still function differently in e.g. package removal and complex dependency resolution.20:52
BluesKajppine, for flash on websites or to write javascripts?20:53
etruscorww: i never said that?20:54
BluesKajerr java on website rather20:54
BluesKajmy mind is flashed :)20:54
ppine:) for java on websites.20:55
BluesKajthey din't find anything :P20:55
ppineThe openjdk doesnt work well20:55
etruscoppine: afaik openjdk is sun jre/jdk compiled by sun?20:55
rwwetrusco: You said "gnome-bluetooth depends on gnome-user-share", which is incorrect. You then started replying to me pointing out that depends and recommends are not the same with links to Ubuntu changing to recommends by default.20:55
etruscoi mean, by canonical20:55
ppineetrusco: no idea, but it aint working where sun java was20:55
ppinewww.map24.com20:55
rwwand actually, gnome-bluetooth only suggests gnome-user-share, not even recommends20:56
BluesKajppine, just make sure you have java-common and icedtea6-plugin20:57
etruscorww: sorry, it's in the "dependants" list, i thought gnome-bluetooth either depended or suggested it. point taken.20:58
etruscoso i have no explanation to tormod ;)20:58
ppineBluesKaj: i do but the problem is that it freezes firefox.20:59
tormodetrusco, thanks for the interest anyway20:59
tormodrww, gnome-bluetooth does recommend gnome-user-share21:01
BluesKajppine, and install ubuntu-restricted-extras21:01
rwwtormod: not directly, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gnome-bluetooth . Perhaps it does indirectly, I didn't check.21:02
tormodso I think if there is a new gnome-bluetooth, dist-upgrade will try to satisfy that. "upgrade" will just ignore the recommends. once the package is upgraded, dist-upgrade does not check for recommends. does that make sense, etrusco?21:03
ppineBluesKaj: all thats already done.21:03
BluesKajppine, which FF do you have ?21:03
tormodrww, I use apt-cache depends gnome-bluetooth21:03
ppineMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100212 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.621:03
BluesKajppine, and how do you know that java is causing the freeze problem21:04
rwwtormod: when I do that, it says "Suggests" ;P21:04
etruscotormod: also, i stand corrected on upt-get upgrade; just read the man pages :-$21:04
ppineBluesKaj: because when i try to initiate the java applet it freezes21:05
tormodrww, it was just changed from suggests to recommends, you gotta run an update :)21:05
BluesKajmaybe it's the site itself that is the problerm21:05
ppineBluesKaj: Good answer man21:05
BluesKajppine, got a url ?21:06
ppineBluesKaj: http://www.map24.com21:06
tormodso dist-upgrade saw the new recommends and wanted to satisfy it. but after I had run "upgrade", this novelty was lost, and an subsequent dist-upgrade would not pick it up.21:07
ZykoticK9ppine, do you have icedtea installed?  map24 is working in my Firefox on lucid?21:07
* etrusco rebooting. Crossing fingers for the latest libdrm updates to fix radeon for me :-/21:07
BluesKajppine, I'm getting a dialog to install java , but the map still works21:08
ZykoticK9ppine, oh wait - it disappeared and now says "wait for applet to be loaded..." but i saw the map for a moment???21:08
ppineYup thats the static map21:10
ppinebut the interactive requires java21:10
ZykoticK9I think Chomium/Chrome lacking java is a real bummer...21:10
BluesKajppine, i tried it a second time , and it froze in FF 3.6 , then I did it in chrome-beta and it works ok, altho i still get the "install java" prompt21:11
ppineAnyway, the question was if there is still a way to get the sun-java-jre rather then the openjdk implentation21:18
alex_mayorgappine try icedtea21:20
ppinealex_mayorga: i am using icedtea21:20
ppineits not working21:20
alex_mayorgappine: oh! sorry21:20
alex_mayorgappine: maybe you can try installing the karmic package as a stopgap21:21
alex_mayorgalast time I asked for sun's I was told to package it myself, which I might try21:22
ppinealex_mayorga: what is a stopgap?21:23
alex_mayorgappine: band-aid solution21:23
ppinealex_mayorga: ok, well i wish to avoid installing something without using apt21:23
ppineeg the repo's or a ppa21:24
alex_mayorgappine: I know and I see the point, but sun-java would just not exist on lucid last time I hear21:24
ppinealex_mayorga: 2bad then, then i will go for the nogap ;)21:25
ppinestopgap21:25
alex_mayorgappine, what's the problematic page BTW?21:26
ppinealex_mayorga: www.map24.com21:27
ppinethe interactive map is the problem21:28
alex_mayorgappine, blank page, right?21:35
alex_mayorgappine: kind of works after I did a search, but it's kind of stuck at "Wait for applet to be loaded..."21:39
ppinealex_mayorga: here its crashing firefox21:41
alex_mayorgappine: I got lucky then21:42
ppinewell, its not working for you neither.21:43
alex_mayorgappine: no it's not21:43
alex_mayorgaIf I find the proper contact point I'll try mailing them21:44
alex_mayorgappine: the status bar says "transferring data from 5.tl.mapt..." so maybe is just my slow connection or something21:46
o_portista17i've just updated do firefox 3.6, and now the characters are strange...is there some addon installed by default that i can uninstall ?21:54
guntberto_portista17: does tools/add-ons show anything?21:55
o_portista17not anything new21:56
guntberto_portista17: then probably not :)21:56
o_portista17i'm doing the upgrade from 9.10, to 10.04..it should be something that the firefox installed with ubuntu upgrades21:56
charlie-tcaIt might be the way mozilla is doing the anti-aliasing of the fonts21:57
BUGabundoevening22:15
BUGabundoeverything holding on?22:15
dupondjeeh ? :D22:16
charlie-tcabarely22:16
BUGabundooh22:18
BUGabundo?22:18
BUGabundoother then my GDM playing hide and seek, everything else is fine22:18
BUGabundocrimsun: my sound applet seems to be OK now!22:18
charlie-tcaPlaying with nvidia-current again! oh, what fun that is22:28
BUGabundonaaaaa22:28
BUGabundonouveau for the win22:28
charlie-tcaYeah, but I signed on for video driver testing weekly22:29
BUGabundoahhh22:30
* charlie-tca might be a glutton for punishment...22:31
kuadrosxhi22:41
kuadrosxI have a problem :( ... I had been updating my lucid when the system was freezed then I reboot(I forgot the upgrade process)22:41
BUGabundokuadrosx: $ sudo dpkg --configure -a22:42
BUGabundoand then carry on22:42
kuadrosxyeap22:42
kuadrosxdpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 19789 package 'libck-connector0':22:43
kuadrosx:C22:43
kuadrosxnewline in field name `Architecture/.'22:43
kuadrosxBUGabundo: ↑22:43
BUGabundoerrr22:44
BUGabundothat's bad22:44
BUGabundoI guess you are going to manually edit the APT db22:44
kuadrosxBUGabundo: and change Architecture/. to Architecture: all22:46
BUGabundoer?22:47
BUGabundoenh?22:47
BUGabundoor22:47
BUGabundobackup, and reinstall22:47
kuadrosx:O22:47
BUGabundojust run the live cd over, without format22:47
BUGabundoshould be faster22:47
BUGabundothen manually fixing that mess22:47
BUGabundokuadrosx: $ sudo dpkg  --configure -a --force doesn't help?22:47
kuadrosxtrying22:48
kuadrosxsudo dpkg  --configure -a --force22:48
kuadrosxdpkg: --force option takes a value22:48
BUGabundoerrr22:49
kuadrosxBUGabundo: there is a /var/lib/dpkg/status-old y I could use that?22:50
BUGabundono idea22:50
BUGabundodon't want to give you false hopes22:50
kuadrosxBUGabundo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47458722:55
kuadrosxmay be this scripts works? :S22:55
pgoetzI just installed the 2010-02-15 AMD64 server daily build on a machine with minimal functionality (openssh+samba)23:00
pgoetzand it booted to a grub prompt with no knowledge of root or boot information (ls gives blank result)23:01
janisozaur!info mono23:01
janisozaurwhat mono version will lucid be shipped with?23:02
pgoetzhuh?  This is #ubuntu+123:02
pgoetzSame server, same installation procedure with 9.10 AMD64 server = no problems.23:02
ubottuPackage mono does not exist in lucid23:02
pgoetzOnly change is root partition when from 2TB to 3TB -- did this upset ext4 somehow?23:03
Takyoji!info mono-runtime23:07
ubottumono-runtime (source: mono): Mono runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.3+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 1169 kB, installed size 3284 kB (Only available for i386 lpia kfreebsd-i386 powerpc amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 ia64 arm armeb armel sparc s390 all)23:07
AlanBellI am having some problems with Lucid AMD64, as soon as I press return it locks up X. I could SSH in and restart GDM, but that seems upset now, failing with "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager"23:14
rwwAlanBell: known bug, workaround right now is to remove "plymouth"23:14
AlanBellrww thanks23:14
AlanBellapt-get remove plymouth?23:14
rwwyep23:14
AlanBellcool23:15
DanaGargh, g-p-m brightness control doesn't work for me.23:21
DanaGhttp://pastebin.com/f1f79b56923:21
crimsunBUGabundo: I couldn't reproduce your applet symptoms anyhow23:31

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