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iJonnyHello...11:51
persiaHey.12:08
iJonnyAnyone on here using ubuntu mobile yet :?12:20
didrocksHey,17:04
didrockscan I upload netbook-launcher-efl removing the C/R which is uneeded? (I want to make netbook-launcher recommends netbook-launcher-efl as this one can now launch it if there is no 3D acceleration detected)17:05
persiadidrocks: Go ahead, if they no longer C/R17:28
persiadidrocks: It's probably work leaving the C/R, and just versioning it though.17:28
didrockspersia: ok, I'll do that way, thanks17:29
persiadidrocks: Just as a guideline, we don't tend to be very proprietary about packages we use, and lots of stuff ends up being experiments to see how it works: if you have an improvement for anything, please just do it (although if you want to consult with others, we're happy to do that too)17:30
didrockspersia: ok, I was really thinking netbook-launcher-efl was a mobile thing first. I'll just need sponsoring as I'm still just a MOTU with GNOME package set right. But I'll find someone :)17:32
persiaIt is kinda a mobile thing, because lots of handhelds don't have enough GPU (or we don't have drivers) to handle full netbook-launcher17:32
persiaBut, like I said, we don't tend to be proprietary about packages: we're more focused on improving the general experience on smaller systems, rather than on specicific software.17:33
persiaFor this cycle, lots of focus has been on ARM processors, because there's only a very few Intel-based handhelds available right now.17:34
persiaSo don't be surprised if you see a patch fixing a FTBFS or providing optimisation in a Desktop package (as we also tend to assume other people aren't proprietary about packages)17:35
persiadidrocks: Thinking about it, do you know a good reason why netbook-launcher-2D isn't in the ubuntu-desktop set?  I thought there was a shared ubuntu-netbook seed for all architectures.17:36
* persia double-checks17:36
didrockspersia: oh, I'm not sure at all, I guess it should be. I didn't checked to be honest17:38
persiadidrocks: There might also be a bit of confusion regarding seeds and sets.17:40
persiadidrocks: If you're looking at dual-installability, you may want to drop the [armel] tag in the seed anyway :)17:40
persiaBut it's probably worth a mail to the TB.  If there isn't a separate dev team for the netbook seed, there ought be, and you ought be in it :)17:41
persia(or at least an upload permission, and DMB can add people)17:41
didrockspersia: agreed. Let's first try to fix the C/R issue and then, we will see for the paperwork past FF :)17:45
persiaheh, yeah :)17:45
persiadidrocks: I'd recommend trying to upload, and seeking sponsorship if it fails.17:46
persia(unless you know a better way to test for sure)17:46
didrockspersia: right, asac anwsered too on #ubuntu-dekstop: do you want to do it or I try to upload?17:46
persiadidrocks: I've less upload permissions than you: I have no package-sets beyond MOTU.17:47
persia(modulo a paperwork issue)17:47
didrocksok :)17:48
iJonny_hello...20:45
iJonny_wonder if anyone could help me with a ubuntu-mobile & pda question :?20:46
iJonny_im tryin to flash a pda someone gave me so that i cam put ubuntu-mobile on it...  The pda comes up as a pda n not a drive or drive letter...  Anyone know how i can install the .img file onto the pda over windows mobile ;?20:48
persiaWell, which model?20:56
persiaWhat processor?20:56
iJonny_its a MEDION20:59
iJonny_running windows mobile 4.20 atm...20:59
persiaSorry, I can't find specs from a quick search .21:16
persiaBut anyway, the best place to find out how to replace the OS is usually a hardware hacking site dedicated to the specific hardware.21:17
persiaOnce you can figure out how to run Linux at all, running Ubuntu is just a matter of starting with an Ubuntu filesystem.21:17
persiaIf it's an ARM based device, rootstock is a good tool for this.21:17
persiaIf it's an x86-based device, ubuntu-virtual-builder is probably closest (I should do some more research here).21:18
iJonny_ok thanks for your help...21:22
iJonny_ill keep looking :))21:22
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persiarbelem: Last chance on -default-settings (as we'll need an exception to the freeze otherwise)22:54
rbelempersia, i think it's better put -default-settings in the ppa22:56
persiarbelem: That works for me.  Just wanted to make sure.22:56
rbelem:-)22:56
persiarbelem: In that case, we'll target everything for the PPA for lucid.  Works for you?22:56
rbelempersia, yep! agreed 22:57
persiaian_brasil: Just FYI ^^22:57
persiarbelem: So, when you have some stuff ready, poke me, and I'll take a look re: packaging style, etc.22:58
persiaAlso, feel free to ask me if you have any questions, etc.22:58
rbelemcool!22:58
rbelemthanks persia :-)22:58
persiaNo problem.  The ideas I heard at UDS were great.  I'm looking forward to runinng this :)22:58
rbelem:-)23:00
rbelemwe want ubuntu running on a mobile phone23:00
rbelem\o/23:00
rbelemian_brasil, ^23:03
persiawell, I don't want it on a phone, but I have minority views when it comes to what devices are useful :)23:07
persia(but my idea of an ideal handheld is in the same size range as other people would accept in phones : I just want my phone to be the size of a USB stick, or smaller)23:07
persiaPutting the entire phone in a watch would be nice.23:07

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