[11:51] Hello... [12:08] Hey. [12:20] Anyone on here using ubuntu mobile yet :? [17:04] Hey, [17:05] can I upload netbook-launcher-efl removing the C/R which is uneeded? (I want to make netbook-launcher recommends netbook-launcher-efl as this one can now launch it if there is no 3D acceleration detected) [17:28] didrocks: Go ahead, if they no longer C/R [17:28] didrocks: It's probably work leaving the C/R, and just versioning it though. [17:29] persia: ok, I'll do that way, thanks [17:30] didrocks: Just as a guideline, we don't tend to be very proprietary about packages we use, and lots of stuff ends up being experiments to see how it works: if you have an improvement for anything, please just do it (although if you want to consult with others, we're happy to do that too) [17:32] persia: ok, I was really thinking netbook-launcher-efl was a mobile thing first. I'll just need sponsoring as I'm still just a MOTU with GNOME package set right. But I'll find someone :) [17:32] It is kinda a mobile thing, because lots of handhelds don't have enough GPU (or we don't have drivers) to handle full netbook-launcher [17:33] But, like I said, we don't tend to be proprietary about packages: we're more focused on improving the general experience on smaller systems, rather than on specicific software. [17:34] For this cycle, lots of focus has been on ARM processors, because there's only a very few Intel-based handhelds available right now. [17:35] So don't be surprised if you see a patch fixing a FTBFS or providing optimisation in a Desktop package (as we also tend to assume other people aren't proprietary about packages) [17:36] didrocks: Thinking about it, do you know a good reason why netbook-launcher-2D isn't in the ubuntu-desktop set? I thought there was a shared ubuntu-netbook seed for all architectures. [17:36] * persia double-checks [17:38] persia: oh, I'm not sure at all, I guess it should be. I didn't checked to be honest [17:40] didrocks: There might also be a bit of confusion regarding seeds and sets. [17:40] didrocks: If you're looking at dual-installability, you may want to drop the [armel] tag in the seed anyway :) [17:41] But it's probably worth a mail to the TB. If there isn't a separate dev team for the netbook seed, there ought be, and you ought be in it :) [17:41] (or at least an upload permission, and DMB can add people) [17:45] persia: agreed. Let's first try to fix the C/R issue and then, we will see for the paperwork past FF :) [17:45] heh, yeah :) [17:46] didrocks: I'd recommend trying to upload, and seeking sponsorship if it fails. [17:46] (unless you know a better way to test for sure) [17:46] persia: right, asac anwsered too on #ubuntu-dekstop: do you want to do it or I try to upload? [17:47] didrocks: I've less upload permissions than you: I have no package-sets beyond MOTU. [17:47] (modulo a paperwork issue) [17:48] ok :) [20:45] hello... [20:46] wonder if anyone could help me with a ubuntu-mobile & pda question :? [20:48] im tryin to flash a pda someone gave me so that i cam put ubuntu-mobile on it... The pda comes up as a pda n not a drive or drive letter... Anyone know how i can install the .img file onto the pda over windows mobile ;? [20:56] Well, which model? [20:56] What processor? [20:59] its a MEDION [20:59] running windows mobile 4.20 atm... [21:16] Sorry, I can't find specs from a quick search . [21:17] But anyway, the best place to find out how to replace the OS is usually a hardware hacking site dedicated to the specific hardware. [21:17] Once you can figure out how to run Linux at all, running Ubuntu is just a matter of starting with an Ubuntu filesystem. [21:17] If it's an ARM based device, rootstock is a good tool for this. [21:18] If it's an x86-based device, ubuntu-virtual-builder is probably closest (I should do some more research here). [21:22] ok thanks for your help... [21:22] ill keep looking :)) === Clay_ is now known as Clay [22:54] rbelem: Last chance on -default-settings (as we'll need an exception to the freeze otherwise) [22:56] persia, i think it's better put -default-settings in the ppa [22:56] rbelem: That works for me. Just wanted to make sure. [22:56] :-) [22:56] rbelem: In that case, we'll target everything for the PPA for lucid. Works for you? [22:57] persia, yep! agreed [22:57] ian_brasil: Just FYI ^^ [22:58] rbelem: So, when you have some stuff ready, poke me, and I'll take a look re: packaging style, etc. [22:58] Also, feel free to ask me if you have any questions, etc. [22:58] cool! [22:58] thanks persia :-) [22:58] No problem. The ideas I heard at UDS were great. I'm looking forward to runinng this :) [23:00] :-) [23:00] we want ubuntu running on a mobile phone [23:00] \o/ [23:03] ian_brasil, ^ [23:07] well, I don't want it on a phone, but I have minority views when it comes to what devices are useful :) [23:07] (but my idea of an ideal handheld is in the same size range as other people would accept in phones : I just want my phone to be the size of a USB stick, or smaller) [23:07] Putting the entire phone in a watch would be nice.