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[02:53] <klucas> Hi all, is there a way to get a front end to play content in a loop?
[02:54] <klucas> I've got a series of machines that are using propriarery software that isn't much good.
[02:54] <klucas> I'm thinking of converting them all to mythtv.
[02:55] <klucas> but it's in a retail environment where there are several machines playing content created from one in a loop
[02:56] <klucas> thanks in advance.
[03:06] <tgm4883> klucas, I think* you can set up repeat points, but i'd have to check the menu in playback. I'm upgrading right now so cant do it
[03:08] <klucas> tgm4883: interesting.  I'll have to try it out here before I take it to the powers that be :)
[04:09] <bcgrown> how can i view the bitrate of a stream i'm watching or have recorded?
[04:38] <fleers> bcgrown: might try mplayer
[04:38] <fleers> mplayer -vo null -ao null -frames 10 -identify <filename>
[04:38] <fleers> or similar
[06:11] <bcgrown> fleers: i think i'm a little late, but thank you.
[06:34] <Technophil> Can someone tell me what file determines the channels shown on the LiveTV OSD when pressing the remotes up and down arrows?  I find some channels are missing yet if I press the channel number they are there and show that way.  I've scanned again and the mythweb settings seems to give them all the same treatment.  e.g TV2 is not in the list yet pressing "2" tunes that channel.
[06:35] <Technophil> Also cold rebooted.  (Using two 500T tuners = 4 tuners)
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[08:49] <hot_wheelz> anyone here following the saa716x family of ships driver development?
[08:49] <hot_wheelz> chips
[08:49] <hot_wheelz> sorry
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[15:51] <ball> Anyone happen to know off hand whether Mythbuntu would be able to use this thing?  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Hauppauge+-+Dual+PCI+Express+TV+Tuner/Recorder/9539706.p?id=1218121172758&skuId=9539706
[15:51] <Zinn> [www.bestbuy.com] Hauppauge - Dual PCI Express TV Tuner/Recorder - 1213
[15:54] <rhpot1991> ball: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-2250
[15:54] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge HVR-2250 - MythTV
[15:55] <rhpot1991> ball: most places are phasing out analog, I'd go look at a HDHR if I were you
[15:55] <rhpot1991> can do the same digital, has dual tuners, is around the same price range, and doesn't need to take up a pcie slot
[15:57] <ball> What is an HDHR?  Hard Disk Hedgehog Recorder?
[15:58] <ball> I thought about buying a Tivo box, but I'd rather use Mythbuntu if I can.
[15:58] <ball> ...more expensive, but more flexible.
[15:59] <mrand> ball, exactly right.
[16:00] <mrand> hdhr = hd homerun
[16:00] <rhpot1991> www.silicondust.com
[16:00] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] Silicondust
[16:00] <rhpot1991> they make the HDHR
[16:01] <ball> mrand: Does that thing work with Linux?
[16:02] <rhpot1991> yes
[16:09] <rhpot1991> ball: several of the developers here use one, and its a very popular tuner for mythtv
[16:10] <ball> Ah, I didn't know it could be used like that.
[16:11] <rhpot1991> ball: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun_home_atsc
[16:11] <Zinn> [www.silicondust.com] products/hdhomerun_home_atsc - Silicondust
[16:11] <rhpot1991> if you haven't found it yet
[16:11] <ball> Just found it, thanks.
[16:13] <ball> I like that it doesn't depend on any particular expansion slot.
[16:14] <ball> ...have they been good about releasing documentation to Linux developers?
[16:15] <mrand> ball: HD homerun is outstanding in all respects.
[16:16] <mrand> If it fits your needs (digital only), it is by far the best thing available, precisely because they do support Linux directly.
[16:17] <ball> mrand: Okay, I'm sold.  I'll have to build a computer to go with it, but that's okay.
[16:17] <rhpot1991> ball: ya they work with mythtv itself to handle support there, and they release all their code for configuration utility as well (which I packaged up for the next ubuntu release)
[16:18] <rhpot1991> ball: are you familiar with VDPAU?
[16:19] <ball> rhpot1991: Never heard of VDPAU.  That they work with Linux people makes me more inclined to give them my hard-earned money.
[16:19] <rhpot1991> !vdpau | ball
[16:19] <Zinn> ball: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[16:19] <rhpot1991> I'd recommend you build something with VDPAU support if you are going to deal with HD
[16:20] <ball> Ah.  Has to be nVidia then?
[16:20] <rhpot1991> that is recommended, ATI doesn't have an equivalent available currently
[16:20] <rhpot1991> ball: http://mythbuntu.org/developer-hardware
[16:20] <rhpot1991> you can get an idea what some of us are running from that
[16:21] <ball> Daviey: I almost bought an ML115 once.
[16:22] <jst_> Aside from the control center, are there any other differences between Xubuntu and Mythbuntu?
[16:22] <Daviey> ball: been solid for me
[16:23] <ball> Daviey: the ML110 has worked well for us as a file server.  About ready to buy a couple of rackmount DLs (or something) for a thin client project.  At home I'll use something more modest for Mythbuntu.
[16:26] <tgm4883> jst_, packages that are installed
[16:26] <tgm4883> maybe default settings for things
[16:26] <tgm4883> why?
[16:26] <rhpot1991> theming
[16:26] <jst_> Just wondering.  Anywhere I can find a list of packages?
[16:26] <rhpot1991> splash screen, etc
[16:27] <tgm4883> not in a single ares
[16:27] <tgm4883> area
[16:27] <tgm4883> you could check depends
[16:27] <jst_> I've been using Xubuntu for my HTPC/file server/LAMP/print server/etc.  Just wondering if it made more sense to go with Mythbuntu, but I guess there's not really a big difference. :)
[16:27] <tgm4883> !exist%
[16:27] <Zinn> http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[16:27] <tgm4883> jst_, ^
[16:28] <tgm4883> we keep everything in the repos, so you should just be able to add it
[16:29] <jst_> Great, thanks.
[16:29] <jst_> What about updates?  Is there a repository that contains daily updates?
[16:29] <rhpot1991> !daily%
[16:29] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about daily%
[16:29] <tgm4883> !auto%
[16:29] <Zinn> If 9.10 upgrade broke auto-login for you, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/463314
[16:29] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:30] <jst_> http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[16:30] <tgm4883> there it is
[16:30] <rhpot1991> yep
[16:30] <rhpot1991> zinn fails
[16:30] <Zinn> Hi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[16:30] <jst_> Guess I'll just stick with stable releases.  I'm not encountering any bugs, anyways.
[16:30] <jst_> hah
[16:31] <rhpot1991> jst_: the auto builds of .22 just contain any fixes that have been added upstream
[16:31] <rhpot1991> jst_: they are hardly unstable
[16:32] <jst_> Ohh, so as long as I'm using "stable" and not "trunk," I'll actually get bugfixes?
[16:32] <rhpot1991> yep
[16:32] <jst_> Nice.
[16:32] <jst_> I'd probably have to enable this on all the frontends as well.
[16:32] <jst_> That could be a problem since one of them is a Windows box.
[16:33] <rhpot1991> you wouldn't necessarily, as long as they are all the same version of mythtv it should be fine, IE 0.22
[16:36]  * tgm4883 notes that auto-builds doesn't have stable/trunk anymore, just select 0.22
[16:38] <jst_> Ok, thanks.
[16:44] <olejl> I have enabled the 0.23 PPA of MythTV, but there is no MythNetvision plugin. Do you have plans to add it?
[16:50] <olejl> found it as a package "mythnetvision", it is just missing in the Mythbuntu Control Centre frontend
[18:14] <donkeypunch> anyone have a pinnacle pctv 800i card in there system?
[18:14] <donkeypunch> im having a hell of a time getting this thing to work
[18:14] <Zinn> donkeypunch: Please watch your language.
[18:15] <donkeypunch> it reconizes the card but i cant do anyscanning for channels thru it
[18:16] <donkeypunch> if i use the dvb function i have better luck on scanning
[18:33] <donkeypunch> ANYONE HAD PROBLEMS getting their pinnacle 800i pctv card to work?
[18:33] <rhpot1991> donkeypunch: 1 you should stick around after asking a question
[18:33] <rhpot1991> 2. you will find better luck with non-common hardware support in the forums
[18:34] <rhpot1991> !forums | donkeypunch
[18:34] <Zinn> donkeypunch: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[19:36] <Technophil> Can anyone tell me the password for the user "mythtv" on mythbuntu 9.10?
[19:36] <Technophil> I want to run mythfilldatabase as user mythtv
[19:37] <Daviey> Technophil: sudo -umythtv -s
[19:38] <Daviey> user mythtv doesn't have a password, you *could* set one.. but that command would seem cleaner
[19:40] <Technophil> Daviey: Ahh, like logging in as a SU, presumably exit or quit releases again?
[19:40] <Daviey> Technophil: yeah
[19:41] <Technophil> Daviey: Much obliged to you, thanks.
[19:46] <Technophil> Hmmm That still runs mythfilldatabase  Using configuration directory = /home/{user}/.mythtv and not /home/mythtv/.mythtv   Can I manually make it run the mythtv/.mythtv version?
[19:52] <Daviey> Technophil: try sudo -umythtv -i
[20:04] <Technophil> Daviey: Yeah that does it.  I had hoped that would fix the missing data (icons and channel information)  in the OSD for some channels in TV with using the up and down arrows.  Some are fine, others missing the program data and icons.  Any suggestions where I might look? I've rescanned.
[20:45] <donkeypunch_> when i use scantv i get channels, but if i scan thru mythtv i cant any
[20:47] <mrand> donkeypunch_: analog scanning doesn't work with mythtv.
[20:48] <mrand> !analog
[20:48] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about analog
[20:48] <mrand> !help
[20:48] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[20:49] <donkeypunch> and whats whith binding sources to cards inputs? thats in the log message
[21:41] <donkeypunch> how do i force v4l to load a differnt firmware?
[23:05] <john___> hi, I have a winfast DTV2000H tv card which is not detected in mythbuntu-setup - the mythtv terminal has "cant open DVB frontend (/dwev.dvb/adapter0/frontend0) for /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 " any help?