[00:19] In ubottu, Guest319 said: a ball is thrown straight upwards on earth at 40 m/s what was the velocity of the ball 6.0 seconds later [00:19] ... [00:26] * jrib considers adding that for next time [00:27] 0 m/s. it hit the ceiling and fell back to ground level. [00:27] * mneptok just tried it. [00:27] :D [00:28] SpaceGhostC2C called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Afrix) [00:40] my usb wont mount and my /proc/scsi/scsi is blank [00:40] any advice [00:42] usuario: Again. This is not a support channel. Please /join #ubuntu [03:23] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [03:23] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [03:23] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [03:23] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) === Dominian_ is now known as Dominian [05:04] I just wanted to see what your topic looked like these days. I haven't been here in a while. :) [05:04] Best wishes to all of you, keep up the good work. [05:06] ugh. [05:33] MK-BB: hello! [06:33] o/ [06:52] there is a spammer in #ubuntu-women, can someone kick/ban ? [07:15] Hi [07:16] Are appeals only done via the mailing list? [07:16] !appeals [07:16] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [07:17] I figure I'm on step 2 then [07:17] Do you prefer your logs to be pastebin'd or attached as .txts? [07:20] up to you [07:21] Awesome [07:21] Thanks for your help [08:14] wre in -ot trolling ##windows earlier so be aware [08:28] good morning [08:28] morning [08:28] dholbach, hi [08:30] hi bazhang, hi ikonia [08:31] howdy [08:44] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [08:44] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [08:44] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [08:44] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [08:48] thought it was iamrandom that did the dcc exploit [08:49] mega, I need to restart my irssi client and apologies to him [08:49] bazhang: thank you [08:50] lanlost just got forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic afaict [08:51] I've removed the ban and sent him a very apologetic pm. I'll going to restart screen, see if that helps. Back shortly [08:52] ok - lets see if that makes a differnce, if not I'll have to restart the client [08:53] Heh, I'm here again =) [08:54] hello [08:55] hi, I'm going to smoke real quick actually.. unrelated =P [08:55] the floodbots in #ubuntu put a ban forward on you after the dcc exploit [08:55] I'm using xchat btw [08:55] (picking up from our conversation in pm) [08:55] if this has happened to you before, I wonder if your client does something when someone does a dcc exploit in the channel [08:55] yeah I'm curious [08:55] you can't acutally proform this DCC exploit can you? [08:56] so I can quit all channels except for one and see what happens specifically [08:56] not without causing pain to others [08:56] ^ [08:56] suppose we could test it in a private channel ? [08:56] yeah [08:56] but I need to smoke real quick.. 3 min [08:56] no problem [08:56] im a coder so I'm interested in whats going on here [08:56] especially if it means that its a problem in xchat and hasn't been fixed then I could patch it [08:57] Lanlost: shout when you're back and we'll look at this [09:05] ok back [09:05] lemme close out of the channels I'm in [09:05] ok, do you want to join ##test ? [09:06] ?? [09:11] ok so that confirms you are suseptable to dcc exploit [09:11] There we go [09:11] !dcc [09:11] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [09:12] Now I suppose I gotta figure out if it's my router or xchat.. [09:12] Lanlost: have a read through that link and see if any of it applys to you [09:12] I'd put money on your router [09:12] I would think plenty of people use xchat though [09:12] its a wrt54g [09:12] probably could upgrade firmware though: Firmware Version: v1.00.4 [09:13] not to mention xchat package probably isnt the newest: XChat 2.8.6 [09:13] its the router [09:14] plustax_ giving total random advice? [09:14] err totally [09:14] I'm pretty sure I'm already on 8001 [09:15] yeah, I am [09:16] Lanlost: Linksys firmware? [09:16] are you asking what version? [09:17] Does this DCC exploit JUST cause people who are susceptible to disconnect? [09:17] yes [09:17] I mean, It's not like I get it and then start sending it out myself or something [09:17] no [09:17] ok, well let me check firmware stuff [09:22] was using 1.00.4 [09:22] will be upgrading to current which is http://downloads.linksysbycisco.com/downloads/WRT54Gv5v6_v1.02.7_FwReleaseNotes.txt [09:22] ok brb [09:28] Alright [09:29] Can we test one more time in ##test? [09:34] ? [09:34] I don't know if I'm even here, I'm in like 5 channels and I can't see anyone talking [09:34] Lanlost, one two one two [09:34] ok, wow, just coinsidence [09:35] I saw that [09:35] who wants to dcc exploit me? [09:35] router has been upgraded, firmware wise [09:36] Lanlost, you are in #ubuntu-read-topic now? [09:38] no.. [09:38] ok, now I am [09:38] Lanlost, okay, join that channel [09:38] I joined it directly [09:38] instead of trying to join #ubuntu [09:39] please read the topic there and follow the instructions [09:39] I've done this before though and passed it [09:39] there you go [09:39] try and join #ubuntu now [09:39] I can.. [09:39] yep [09:39] I'm telling you. I've done this before [09:40] Lanlost: I told the bots to "think" you were a victim, so they tested you [09:40] you passed [09:40] I know this.. [09:40] I typed test me as well though [09:40] This is fine and all, but I've passed before and yet was still susceptible [09:40] That's all I'm saying. I just wanted someone to do what ikonia did [09:41] Received a malformed DCC request from FloodBot2. [09:41] * Contents of packet: DCC SEND 1234567890abcdef [09:41] I didn't get that from him.. He just said he was doing it and then I disconnected [09:41] which is what always happens, I never see any DCC requests when it happened in the past [09:41] the point is that the router didn't crash [09:41] First of all [09:41] It never crashed [09:42] Second of all, that doesn't mean it's fixed [09:42] well, it resets the connection [09:42] no, it disconnected you from port 6667 [09:42] or whatever port it was using [09:42] I wasn't on port 6667 [09:42] it didn't crash [09:42] i was on 8001.. [09:42] well that's new [09:43] Yeah [09:43] I set it to freenode.net port 8001 last time this happened, which was like a week ago. [09:43] I've NEVER not passed the test though and then I end up banned from #ubuntu a day or two later [09:44] I go into #ubuntu-read-topic.. don't change anything and pass the test [09:44] But whatever ikonia did, I never saw a DCC request, malformed or not and got disconnected. [09:44] It's fine .. I guess. The firmware update probably fixed it anyway. I was just curious what was going on and thats why I wanted it tested again. I'm not sure how he did it though. [09:45] Lanlost, in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic [09:45] Lanlost: lets test you [09:45] jump into ##test [09:45] Thank you [09:49] Thanks again, every time being here has been a great experience [09:49] no problem [09:50] What a strange exploit. I'll have to figure out what it's exploiting. Can't be good if people are susceptible enough to it that there has to be the -read-topic channel. [09:51] Reminds me of the android exploit that was in the original OS version released with the G1. [09:51] You could easily root your phone to upgrade it to whatever you wanted because.. .. ... every command was being forwarded to a terminal. [09:52] Apparently a guy found out when he sent a text message to his friend telling him to reboot his computer and his phone rebooted.. sigh. [09:52] Anyway, I'll stop spamming. Thanks. [09:53] er, one more thing. I never saw the exploit when you used it until the last time. I must have been disconnected before it even displayed. [09:54] Does this mean that everyone in the channel sees it when someone does it? If that's the case it would be pretty easy to see who is doing it. That's why I was asking about the priv message. [09:55] I understand this is probably not appropriate for this channel btw, that's why I was asking in #test. I'll let you go though. Thanks again [09:57] Lanlost, well you can join #ubuntu, and as a bonus you got around to upgrading the router :) [09:58] if all is well, you can part this channel. thanks for working things out! [10:03] ack, I didn't realize I didn't part it [10:03] I did a /close #ubuntu-ops and it closed one of the channels I was in again. Alright, bye [10:07] and now for something completely different: http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/4364188891/ [10:22] Myrtti: no... just worng :P [10:22] wrong even [10:28] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:28] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:28] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [10:29] "#ubuntu Cannot send to channel" help [10:30] seems to have been resolved by itself. thanks === Levia_ is now known as Levia [10:35] floodbot2 got klined [10:36] yep, so did nalioth [10:36] odd [10:36] the odd thing is, it's happened several times before [10:36] true [10:44] someone on the host joined a kline channel [10:45] charming [10:45] I killed it and unklined anyway [10:46] floodbot and nalioth do something bad? [11:29] ugh, bacta is PM flooding me [11:34] nice [11:36] elky: have you approached a freenode staffer about it? [11:38] jussi01, considering it stopped and he's now just continuing to try convince me that ikonia should be expelled from the team because tsimpson disagreed with him on something (which is what the flood was, logs of that) i don't see it'd do much [11:38] he started at me like this because i told him to not troll -women after proclaiming he ought to be called "trollzilla" [11:39] i'm so over dealing with this guy. [11:40] elky: then dont. if theres a problem, refer it to others. [11:41] jussi01: we need something that is the opposite of appeals [11:41] people like this are just becoming a long term waste of time and resource [11:41] jussi01, the only way it's going to stop is if i put him on ignore, and that's really not something that I consider a wise thing to do for a cross-namespace troll === MenZa_ is now known as MenZa [12:21] @mark #ubuntu spellingbot wre from earlier, causing an issue in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic [12:21] The operation succeeded. === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca [12:38] hello SpaceGhostC2C [12:41] SpaceGhostC2C: hello ?? [12:46] SpaceGhostC2C, please dont idle here should you have no outstanding business, thanks [12:57] SpaceGhostC2C: hello ? do you need something ? [13:07] is MK-BB a loco op? [13:07] don't know [13:10] Hey. Are some people unable or not allowed to use the bot? [13:10] ikonia, a friendly face. Do you know if some people can be ignored by the bot? [13:10] Can you read me? [13:10] yes [13:10] sometimes the bot lags so it looks like it's ignoring you [13:10] or if it's been used too much it ignores you [13:11] eg: do !hi, then !hi, then !hi the 3rd one will get ignored [13:11] The second one should be ignored. [13:11] ahh second, even better [13:11] thank you Pici [13:14] SpaceGhostC2C: Anything else we can help you with today? [13:30] um... is anyone suspicious about the newcomer to -ot at all? [13:31] Yes. [13:31] Whichonesthat? [13:31] Oh right. [13:31] MenZa, the one that rather rhymes with an op name and says "srsbznz" or whatever [13:32] Aye, aye. [13:32] iinet is not a typical trollpit isp in .au, they're on the pricier side of things hence fewer students use them [13:32] Its probably a futile attempt, but I'm grepping for the host [13:32] Good plan. I'm out, powercut. [13:32] I neeed caffiene first though. [13:33] the exception to that rule being the prolificness of the optus which is only due to the mobile broadband network they onsell [13:34] SpaceGhostC2C: I assume you don't need anything or have stepped away from the keyboard again ? [13:36] no grep results [13:38] Pici, when optus hostmasks say "dyn" it really does mean dynamic [13:38] not "oh we might change it in a month or so" [13:38] more like "we'll change it soemtime in the next 48hrs" [13:39] mute them? [13:52] whatthe... [13:55] we don't know. [14:16] i wish i knew atleast the motive behind it. is it purely to annoy me === dholbach_ is now known as dholbachj === dholbachj is now known as dholbach [14:45] umm, I will be mostly away some days/weeks [14:46] so see you later (: -> [14:57] Tm_T: have fun? [14:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Signpost/Destinations#Channel:%20#ubuntu-signpost [14:59] wut. [15:00] Never heard of it [15:01] I'm going to remove it from that list, also register the channel and forward to #ubuntu just in case. [15:04] oh dear [15:04] it has ubuntuguide on it [15:22] MK-BB, is a loco op? [15:23] yup [15:23] south korea iirc [15:23] aha [15:23] and he is in -irc too [15:23] yep [15:24] just saw him in -ko [15:24] talking? [15:24] nope just present [15:29] MK-BB: your issue will be handled in #ubuntu-irc, not here [15:30] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [15:31] whatwhere [15:53] @login [15:54] !ping [15:54] The operation succeeded. [15:54] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [15:56] @login [15:56] The operation succeeded. [16:03] Pici: the Java Chat ban is not a forward it seems [16:03] it doesn't mask the IP as far as I can tell, so not sure why it's banned [16:04] tsimpson: Correct. I was referring to webchat.freenode.net [16:04] java chat is just banned I thought ? [16:04] I'm just thinking, do we need to keep the ban? [16:04] Probably not. [16:07] I've removed it [16:17] guntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (Aserd pasting random texts) [16:23] Trying to find out what OS satepc is on is like trying to pull teeth. Probably Arch [16:23] nice guess [16:46] * Pici sighs [16:49] cmp outburst in 3,2, [16:50] I want to help the guy, but at some point he has to learn the basics [16:50] more so if he's charging people for this [16:57] there we go then [16:58] ? [17:00] ikonia: fyi, ufw = Uncomplicated Firewall, not Ubuntu Firewall [17:00] Pici: thank you [17:08] * Myrtti facepalms [17:08] Myrtti: Whats up? [17:10] just looking at #ubuntu while clinging to my dinner of two crackers and an indigestion med [17:11] bazhang: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~jmk/simian/download.htm [17:12] ikonia, I must have missed the jump from img/theme to custom compile [17:12] I've untar'd it and the dependencies look pretty old for ubuntu 8.04 [17:12] the discussion of what cpu he has made me almost sneeze out the tablet [17:12] ubuntu 6.06 he may have got away with [17:13] I'm sorry to sound rude, but I don't think that hes going to be able to figure out how to use the program if he can't even compile it. [17:13] he'll have to either install the older dependencies - which means more custom compiles and appliction breakage, or update the dependenceis, which as he can't navigate the file system I don't think capable of doing [17:13] Pici: I %100 agree, if he'd read the "new ubuntu user guide" so he got the basics we could start moving him forward a bit [17:13] Pici: no kidding? [17:14] and he has no time to read apparently, so it will have to be done step by step via irc [17:14] for some reason he refuses to read anything that resolves his issues [17:26] MenZa, bazhang: If either of you don't like it, feel free to act on it. [17:27] What are we talking about? [17:27] * MenZa reads up [17:27] Pici, act on 'pissy' ? no problem, and not an op in that channel [17:27] Pici: If I were to moderate based on my, er, own limits, I wouldn't ever be telling anyone to watch their language. [17:28] I personally have no problem with that word, but I know other people do. [17:28] * MenZa laxes a bit. [17:28] I always thought it meant grouchy/grumpy [17:28] It does. [17:28] It does. [17:29] I've seen people take offense at 'pissy' or 'pissed off' before. [17:29] And I have no problem with it, personally [17:29] I've seen people take offence to "wtf", which makes no sense to me. [17:29] * MenZa shrugs [17:29] I'll just sit and idle unless it run out of control, in which case I'll step in [17:29] * MenZa gets dinner [17:29] the 'f' part presumably [17:29] \o [17:29] Sure. [17:30] But I find it silly. [17:30] It just means "currently experiencing a lot of confusion" [17:30] :) [17:30] No,ww, dinner. [17:30] weird 'o' there [17:31] !install [17:31] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [17:39] dont click the link from mao [17:44] is ubottu lagging today or something? [17:44] hello there trek [17:44] it is lagging a little [17:44] nhlpa is the chimpout fellow [17:45] it's been on/off a few times today Trek [17:45] ah, so its a bot-side issue. [17:45] was wondering, thanks ikonia [17:45] bazhang: are you %100 sure [17:45] Trek: yeah, I've notied it a bit [17:45] hrm [17:45] is it PM spamming on-join again? [17:46] just waiting for the flood of gnaa etc etc [17:46] bazhang: I don't want to wait [17:46] how confident are you ? [17:46] eg: what's making you think it's him again ? [17:47] the IP address [17:47] Hmmm [17:48] didn't we ban the ip last time he was here ? [17:48] (obviously not) but I mean why didn't we ? [17:48] klined after removal [17:49] ah, so that's why [17:50] bazhang: the IP for that user was klined at one point? [17:51] Dominian, fairly close to that one, not sure of the exact address [17:51] ah ok [17:51] the mao fellow was much worse imo [17:52] I clicked the link :/ [17:52] heh [17:57] nhandler, just got kicked? jussi01 [17:57] Yes. [17:57] yikes [18:11] life is hard on its_me [18:12] got him in PM [18:12] figured you would [18:30] whee. alabd is back. [18:31] * Myrtti goes to make popcorn === Gary_ is now known as GazzaK [20:50] In ubottu, guntbert said: !here is Please post your question *here* too (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. [20:52] I'm here to defend my proposal about !here [20:53] * ikonia holds court [20:53] just kidding [20:53] what's up ? [20:53] heh [20:54] any questions about my proposal? [20:54] i can't see the point [20:55] Myrtti: I see an increasing number of questions (mainly in #ubuntu) like: "please look at my post in or and tell me how to solve" [20:59] guntbert: so you are asking people to increase channel business so that you dont need to go to a website? [20:59] guntbert: Im not trying to be annoying, just asking :) [20:59] I do see his point, some of the tools being used are terrible [20:59] one was a flash pastebin that I had to ask the guy to repost using pastebin as I couldn't get it to work [21:00] jussi01: it's graanted that if they'd give even a synopsis of the problem instead of just "omg look URL" [21:00] jussi01: no - I'm only asking them to state the problem in the channel - so as not to have to visit another site just to see if I might be able/willing to help [21:01] i don't bother to go read such url, waste of time in many cases [21:01] Myrtti: that's a sad truth [21:02] ikonia: Myrtti: I don't think its sad - when someone wants help they should make it as easy as possible for the helper [21:02] guntbert: maybe something a bit more along the lines of if you HAVE to use a pastebin, use pastebin.ubuntu.com, but give an overview in the channel [21:03] jussi01: would that tie in better, in the hope that it catches on and only has to be used to start things off [21:03] yeah, Id say thats probably better, sorry for my lack of contribution, Im actually a little distracted [21:04] i wouldn't mind forum links, but if there's no synopsis, there's no ay of telling can i help and it's waste of time [21:04] jussi01: you'll be more distracted on friday when the post man turns up [21:04] ikonia: yes, of that Im sure :D [21:04] as guntbert said [21:04] Myrtti: forum links are just as bad, you have to go through 10 posts to get the actual problem [21:04] guntbert: could we rework it, give an overview in the channel and if you have to paste, use pastebin.ubuntu.com ? [21:05] guntbert: something along those lines, as I don't want 20 line pointless pastes in the channel, but I know where you've coming from [21:05] ikonia: sounds good - I'm not too proud of my first idea [21:05] nothing wrong with it, just may be better to guide them a little, more so as it's new people who don't know mostly [21:08] ikonia: like: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to paste, please use pastebin.ubuntu.com . [21:08] guntbert: that's more like what I was thinking yes [21:09] guides people a little better [21:09] maybe use If you have to use more than 3 lines, please ues... [21:09] ok, that works [21:09] guntbert: you ok ? [21:09] ikonia: is ok with me :) [21:10] ok, jussi01 that seems to be the deal clincer [21:10] clincher [21:10] i'm having a problem with IRC. please connect to Freenode and help me! [21:11] problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines please use pastebin.ubuntu.com ? [21:11] all happy ? [21:12] missing a comma [21:12] after lines ? [21:12] i think so [21:12] ooh, my cut and paste didn't work properly either [21:13] it missed of the please give an overview [21:14] Myrtti: I wouldn't know about a comma - I cannot set the correctly even in my own language (german) [21:14] *them [21:15] guntbert: I think Myrtti is right [21:15] I'll attempt to re-cut and paste [21:15] isn't it paste.ubuntu.com too [21:16] Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com [21:16] hows that [21:16] ikonia: please don't paste to the channel. post your paste in the Ubuntu Forums and then point us to the URL. [21:16] * mneptok giggles [21:16] * ikonia choses to ignore the troll in the corner [21:17] Myrtti: both urls resolve to the same site [21:17] guntbert: one is shorter [21:17] Myrtti: ok [21:18] all happy with that then ? [21:18]