| Takyoji | So what other feasible methods of testing Lucid would there be? I've already tested the Nouveau driver on my system, used checkbox, and reported any application crashes with apport so far. | 03:03 |
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| Takyoji | Anything else that's fairly straightforward to do, or? | 03:04 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: there is some stuff about testing on the Ubuntu QA site. http://qa.ubuntu.com/ | 03:21 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: some testcases you can do manually. http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 03:22 |
| Takyoji | Otherwise Mago; is that of writing scripts to automate the process of doing test cases | 03:23 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: yes | 03:23 |
| Takyoji | So if something doesn't work as intended, where would the issue be reported to? | 03:33 |
| Takyoji | For example, I can't do anything to SD cards; they only mount as read-only on two of my systems (while on my other laptop, I'm able to read and write) | 03:34 |
| duanedesign | you would report it to launchpad | 03:36 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: there is soome usefull info here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 03:40 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: here is some info specific to Removable Media: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices | 03:41 |
| Takyoji | Thank you | 03:42 |
| Takyoji | 9.10 and above doesn't use HAL anymore, right? | 03:48 |
| Takyoji | or am I think of something completely different? | 03:48 |
| Takyoji | thinking* | 03:50 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: you are thinking of the right thing | 03:53 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: I am not sure how fully its been removed. | 03:53 |
| Takyoji | because I noticed the documentation was referring to it | 03:55 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: looks like hald is still in use in 9.10. Cant say about Lucid | 03:59 |
| duanedesign | you can check with: ps uaxxc | grep hal | 04:00 |
| Takyoji | There's about 10 processes running starting with "hald" | 04:01 |
| Takyoji | Should I add my generated files to this bug, or file a new one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/228941 | 04:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 228941 in linux (Ubuntu) "sd card detected as read only" [Undecided,New] | 04:03 |
| Takyoji | Filed about 1.8 years ago | 04:05 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: if you wanted to attach it to that bug you would need to determine if you share the same problem. Which could take a little investigating. In order to add to that bug you would need to be certain you bothe suffered from the same 'root cause' | 04:21 |
| duanedesign | not symptoms. Many problems can cause the same symptom, but might not be the same bug | 04:21 |
| Takyoji | So then file it as a new bug, and if it is deemed to be the same thing, it'd be marked as a duplicate? | 04:22 |
| duanedesign | if you are unsure file a seperate bug | 04:22 |
| Takyoji | alright | 04:22 |
| Takyoji | And just mark it to only affect the "linux" package? | 04:23 |
| Takyoji | or would there be any other packages that I should tag it to as well? | 04:24 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: that is tought o say. There a couple of different things that could prevent the SD Card reader from working correctly | 04:27 |
| duanedesign | certain bugs it is not always so obvious what the right package is | 04:27 |
| duanedesign | you might look through your 'dmesg' and see if there is any clue | 04:27 |
| Takyoji | There's nothing that implies an error of when the SD card was mounted | 04:28 |
| Takyoji | the only thing directly relevant is that it implies "Write Protect is on" | 04:29 |
| Takyoji | although the card is not locked | 04:29 |
| Takyoji | and I've tried vacuuming and canned air to clear the SD card port. | 04:29 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: you can try running: tail -f /var/log/syslog | 04:32 |
| duanedesign | while monitoring the Terminal insert the card and see if anything comes u;p | 04:33 |
| Takyoji | just the same information as dmesg | 04:34 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: what format is the card? | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | also, I noticed a broken link | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | FAT32 | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | I can't even change the partition type (and yes, after unmounting the device first) | 04:35 |
| Takyoji | In other words, I can't reformat it as EXT3, EXT4, FAT16, anything. | 04:36 |
| Takyoji | the error message provided is "Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system" | 04:37 |
| Takyoji | As I was implying; I noticed a broken link. On Launchpad, when you're reporting a bug related to the linux package, there's a section titled "linux (Ubuntu) guidelines:" that refers to a page of instructions on the Ubuntu Wiki, a page which doesn't exist. | 04:40 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: you can check the disk for errors | 04:41 |
| duanedesign | sudo dosfsck -a -v /dev/sdb1 | 04:41 |
| Takyoji | It implies the version of it at first; then it implies "open: Read-only file system" and returns back to bash | 04:43 |
| Takyoji | "dosfsck 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009) | 04:44 |
| Takyoji | dosfsck 3.0.7, 24 Dec 2009, FAT32, LFN | 04:44 |
| Takyoji | open: Read-only file system" | 04:44 |
| duanedesign | what does : ls -l /dev/sd* | 04:48 |
| duanedesign | say for sdb1 | 04:48 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: also: cat /etc/fstab | 04:49 |
| duanedesign | should have an entry like this: /dev/sdc1 /media/usb vfat defaults 0 0 | 04:50 |
| Takyoji | http://paste.ubuntu.com/378136/ | 04:50 |
| duanedesign | ok | 04:54 |
| duanedesign | /dev/sdb1 /media/usb vfat defaults 0 0 | 04:55 |
| duanedesign | add that to your fstab. | 04:56 |
| duanedesign | gksudo gedit /etc/fstab | 04:56 |
| Takyoji | alright | 04:58 |
| Takyoji | Then restart thereafter, or? | 04:59 |
| Takyoji | Otherwise it's actually an SD card, and wouldn't I have to create the directory /media/usb? | 04:59 |
| Takyoji | Or is that only if I was going to manually mount it? | 04:59 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: yes you would if it does not exist | 05:01 |
| duanedesign | create the directory that is | 05:01 |
| duanedesign | sudo mkdir /media/usb | 05:02 |
| Takyoji | Now restart the system? | 05:02 |
| duanedesign | yes | 05:02 |
| Takyoji | Still read-only | 05:04 |
| duanedesign | :( | 05:04 |
| Takyoji | I've actually added it to fstab previously, and tried forcing read/write capability to no avail and so forth | 05:07 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: ahhh | 05:08 |
| Takyoji | So would it be conclusive to file the bug then? | 05:08 |
| Takyoji | I have various SD cards by the way; not just one. All of varying sizes and speeds. None of them seem to ever mount as read and write | 05:09 |
| duanedesign | Takyoji: i am out of ideas :) | 05:09 |
| Takyoji | As implied; it's the case for two of my desktops, except for one laptop | 05:09 |
| Takyoji | And the two desktops are completely different in hardware | 05:09 |
| Takyoji | otherwise thank you for your assistance and time | 05:11 |
| duanedesign | your welcome i hope you get it working | 05:20 |
| Takyoji | hopefully | 05:20 |
| sbeattie | Takyoji: did the desktops have different SD card readers, or were you sharing one between them? | 06:06 |
| Takyoji | Completely different card readers | 06:06 |
| Takyoji | They're both internal ones | 06:06 |
| Takyoji | otherwise I'll be leaving in a couple minutes or so | 06:09 |
| sbeattie | Takyoji: are they usb internally or something else? Do they show up in lsusb or lspci? | 06:10 |
| Takyoji | They might be USB; I'm not entirely certain. I'd have to check | 06:10 |
| sbeattie | It'd be interesting to search for those specific reader devices and see if they're mentioned in other launchpad reports or elsewhere. | 06:11 |
| Takyoji | tomorrow I'll check when I get the chance and hopefully remember to report back | 06:11 |
| sbeattie | Given that multiple cards are having the problem, I'd be looking at the kernel's interactions with the readers as to be the likely source of the issues; I've had no difficulty mounting sd cards, but I don't have a wide variety of readers to work with. | 06:13 |
| Takyoji | They can read the cards fine; it's just they're never mounted as read and write; even when forced or manually implied | 06:14 |
| Takyoji | So I can't ever change anything on the SD cards | 06:15 |
| sbeattie | Right, what I mean is that the kernel and the SD readers are having a difference of opinion as to whether the RO bit is set on the card. | 06:16 |
| Takyoji | Yea, dmesg implies that it has write protection enabled when it's mounting it | 06:17 |
| sbeattie | which is why it can't be mounted RW. | 06:17 |
| Takyoji | "Write Protect is on" | 06:17 |
| Takyoji | Yet I don't even know if I could "override" that somehow | 06:18 |
| Takyoji | Anyway, I'll try to return tomorrow. 20 minutes past midnight here. | 06:20 |
| ara | good morning all! | 06:28 |
| ara | mvo, morning | 07:56 |
| ara | mvo, can you paste again the branch with your kvm autotests for upgrade testing? I am interested in having a look | 07:56 |
| ara | mvo, thanks | 07:56 |
| mvo | ara: good morning | 08:02 |
| mvo | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mvo/autotest/gui-upgrades | 08:03 |
| mvo | that is the branch | 08:03 |
| ara | mvo, thanks! | 08:03 |
| mvo | it contains a step file for karmic->lucid and hardy->lucid | 08:03 |
| ara | mvo, awesome, thank you | 08:03 |
| mvo | problem is that hardy-lucid will not work because of bugs during the upgrade (unexcpeted config file, networkmanager starting to fail etc) | 08:03 |
| mvo | but I guess that is a good thing :) | 08:03 |
| ara | mvo, :) | 08:04 |
| mvo | I got a machine to run the kvm tests on, I'm currently investigating if it could be used for autotest too | 08:04 |
| mvo | but its having a really old kvm (kvm-62) that I'm not 100% trust | 08:06 |
| mvo | but in general ... stepmaker == love | 08:06 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:05 |
| ara | morning davmor2 | 11:16 |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:41 | |
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| davmor2 | fader_: morning Muppet Boy. How's tricks? | 13:31 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Hey dude, what's shakin'? | 13:31 |
| davmor2 | fader_: The tree branches outside in the wind | 13:32 |
| fader_ | Heh | 13:32 |
| davmor2 | or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28TR06gLsiw | 13:34 |
| davmor2 | fader_: did you forget my awesome ability for bad taste ^ | 13:43 |
| fader_ | davmor2: never ;) | 13:43 |
| moustafa | davmor2, fader_, ara, marjo : G'morning | 13:45 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Hey dude | 13:45 |
| ara | hey moustafa | 13:45 |
| moustafa | How are you fine folk doing? | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: how's things dude? | 13:54 |
| moustafa | davmor2: It's a work in progress | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | :) | 14:33 |
| moustafa | cr3: Baguette! | 14:39 |
| moustafa | cr3: No baguette? | 14:45 |
| cr3 | moustafa: sorry, in the middle of a conference right now, not much time for soupe du jour | 14:46 |
| moustafa | cr3: gotcha | 14:47 |
| MagicFab | alexmoldovan, hey - > come to #ubuntu-qc | 15:40 |
| moustafa | hey MagicFab! | 15:41 |
| MagicFab | moustafa, o/ | 15:44 |
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| fader_ | alexmoldovan: Do you remember the bug number for the nvidia freeze bug? | 17:17 |
| fader_ | davmor2: I thought I had the bug tagged but it looks like I didn't :/ | 17:17 |
| davmor2 | :( | 17:17 |
| alexmoldovan | let me see | 17:18 |
| davmor2 | according to keybuk it sounds like it's known :) | 17:18 |
| fader_ | alexmoldovan: nm, found it -- bug 522692 | 17:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 522692 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Pressing <Enter> key causes X to freeze (affects: 15)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522692 | 17:19 |
| fader_ | And yeah, it's a known issue | 17:19 |
| alexmoldovan | that's the one | 17:19 |
| fader_ | Seems to be a plymouth thing | 17:19 |
| alexmoldovan | yes | 17:19 |
| fader_ | I tagged it this time :) | 17:20 |
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| davmor2 | bye | 20:09 |
| ppine | Hello, is there a possibility to get sun java 6 installed on Lucid lynx? | 20:31 |
| fader_ | ppine: You might have better luck asking on #ubuntu+1 | 20:46 |
| fader_ | This channel is mostly for coordinating ongoing tests and is rather quiet at the moment | 20:47 |
| ppine | fader_: thanks, i'll try that. | 20:50 |
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