[11:50] <kklimonda> hmm.. transmission icon seems a little blurry to me..
[14:23] <jcastro> seb128, ping
[14:23] <seb128> jcastro, hello
[14:23] <seb128> how are you today?
[14:23] <jcastro> ok, just making sure I am on the right side of the netsplit
[14:23] <jcastro> good, today will be a good day!
[14:24] <seb128> ;-)
[14:33] <jpetersen> jcastro, which bug should I attach the updated rhythmbox appindicator patch to?
[14:33] <jcastro> seb128, ^^
[14:33] <jcastro> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606972 probably?
[14:33] <ubot4> Gnome bug 606972 in User Interface "Support for application-indicators/StatusNotifierIcon" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed]
[14:34] <seb128> yes
[14:34] <jcastro> which points to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/498588
[14:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 498588 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox's "Status Icon" plug-in is broken. (affects: 3)" [Medium,Fix released]
[14:34] <seb128> I will get it on the upstream bug that's fine
[14:34] <seb128> I'm doing the rhythmbox update right now, good timing
[14:36] <jpetersen> ok, i will attach it there
[14:40] <seb128> thanks!
[14:48] <jpetersen> seb128, done
[14:48] <seb128> jpetersen, thank you
[15:04] <jcastro> jpetersen, Ted is going to be finished with his other workload soon and can look at your indicator bugs, please have them in hand so when he pings he can look at the straight away
[15:04] <jcastro> Nafai, ^^^
[15:05] <jpetersen> jcastro, ok cool
[15:11] <kklimonda> could someone take a look at transmission indicator menu and give an idea how to change order of entries to make them look better? or maybe the current, ragged look is going to change with some indicator-application upload?
[15:11] <kklimonda> right now it looks bad imo
[15:27] <jpetersen> i will just go home from the office, will be back online in an hour
[16:10] <GogglesGuy> The latest notify-osd-0.9.25 doesn't correctly update existing notifications when an applications specificies a replace-id. Known issue?
[16:18] <Nafai> yay
[16:19] <jcastro> Nafai, would you say this is accurate? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/379144/
[16:20]  * Nafai looks
[16:20] <Nafai> vino isn't currently blocking, I'm just in the middle of the work, it had 2 notification area items to port
[16:20] <Nafai> but otherwise, yes
[16:21] <jcastro> ok
[16:22] <jcastro> Nafai, ok so please endevaour to finish vino asap so that when ted unblocks we can push brasero and gnome-bt through
[16:22] <Nafai> sounds great, that's the plan! :)
[16:22] <jcastro> \m/
[17:29] <Nafai> bbiab
[18:57] <jcastro> Nafai, jpetersen: ok, tedg has time now, I need your list of bugs that are blocking you
[18:57] <jcastro> well, he needs the bugs that are blocking you.
[19:47] <jcastro> Nafai, back yet?
[19:49] <jpetersen> ok i am back
[19:51] <jpetersen> tedg, for the gsd keyboard applet it would be nice to be able set a short text instead of the icon https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application/+bug/522153
[19:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 522153 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "indicator-application does not support text/GdkPixbuf as an icon (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[19:53] <tedg> jpetersen: Hmm, we don't really have a way to do that easily.
[19:53] <tedg> jpetersen: Is this just for "USA" or something like that for the keyboard?
[19:54] <jpetersen> tedg, yes
[19:54] <tedg> jpetersen: What does it do for instance for "Afghanistan" ?
[19:54] <tedg> (longer country names)
[19:55] <jpetersen> tedg, it shows something like Afg
[19:55] <jpetersen> tedg, in GtkStatusIcon they use GdkPixbufs rendered with cairo
[19:56] <jpetersen> in the original g-s-d implementation using GtkStatusIcon i mean
[19:57] <tedg> jpetersen: Yeah, that makes sense.
[19:57] <tedg> jpetersen: I'm not sure what to do with that one.
[19:57] <tedg> jpetersen: Both of those don't, quite, work.
[19:57] <tedg> I'd like to ping mpt on that one.
[19:58] <jpetersen> tedg, yes maybe it would be good to get more input on that
[19:59] <jpetersen> tedg, than there are insensitive and formated (bold) menu items (used like titles for g-s-d and also for gnome-bluetooth and the network manager)
[20:00] <jpetersen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application/+bug/522149
[20:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 522149 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "indicator-application does not support formated menu items (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[20:00] <jpetersen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application/+bug/522151
[20:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 522151 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "indicator-application does not support insensitive menu items (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[20:01] <tedg> jpetersen: I thought we fixed insensitive, does that still not work?
[20:03] <jpetersen> tedg, maybe I do not have the current version installed
[20:04] <jcastro> you just did an upload a little bit ago right? 
[20:04] <tedg> jcastro: No, I was figuring there'd be more bugfixes.
[20:04] <jcastro> ok
[20:05] <tedg> Hmm, maybe I'm confusing sensitivity and visibility.
[20:06] <Nafai> Back from lunch
[20:08] <Nafai> Yes, what jpetersen has said
[20:08] <Nafai> Plus, the problem I've been emailing about, not sure if there is a bug for it
[20:09] <jcastro> yes I am more concerned about the problem you emailed about
[20:09] <Nafai> tedg, What can I do to help you debug this tedg?
[20:10] <tedg> Nafai: Hmm, I can't seem to build a package with app indicator support.
[20:10] <Nafai> which are you trying?
[20:10] <tedg> Nafai: gnome-bluetooth
[20:10] <Nafai> I admit I haven't built the .deb, I've only been building from the source and running from there
[20:11] <Nafai> Are you trying to build the .deb?
[20:11] <tedg> Yes
[20:11] <tedg> I'm curious if I need an autogen... just  sec.
[20:12] <Nafai> possibly, since a configure isn't checked in
[20:15] <jcastro> jpetersen, this look mostly right to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/379144/
[20:19] <jpetersen> jcastro, yes
[20:19] <jcastro> jpetersen, ok given the feature freeze deadline, concentrate on what we have no and don't worry about packagekit-gnome and connman-gnome
[20:20] <jcastro> we should work on resolving pitti's issue with the patch for g-p-m
[20:21] <jcastro> given the desktop teams workload I think the best way forward is to resolve the issues with the items on that list and the other opportunities will have to wait until lucid +1
[20:21] <Nafai> :(
[20:22] <jcastro> Nafai, we can still rock bluetooth, vino, and brasero
[20:23] <Nafai> Yes, I know
[20:23] <jpetersen> tedg, did you manage to look at the crash caused by gnome-power-manager
[20:24] <jpetersen> tedg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/523041
[20:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523041 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object() (affects: 30) (dups: 2)" [Critical,Fix released]
[20:27] <jpetersen> jcastro, i do not really see what I should fix in the gnome-power-manager patch
[20:28] <seb128> jpetersen, did you figure why gpm crashes on start?
[20:28] <jpetersen> seb128, not yet
[20:29] <seb128> ok, I would say that's the fix to do
[20:29] <seb128> the other comments from pitti might not be reveleant since he didn't work with appindicator before
[20:29] <seb128> but we can't upload something which crashes immediatly
[20:33] <jpetersen> yes I also get the crash with gnome-settings-daemon, when the application indicator is started on session startup
[21:09] <tedg> I'm giving up on the bluetooth one Nafai, I think bratsche is going to have to look at it.  But he's really busy right now.
[21:09] <Nafai> Okay :(
[21:09] <Nafai> Thanks though
[21:10] <Nafai> jcastro: Don't worry, I'm trying to finish up vino as we speak, so I'm not entirely blocked
[21:11] <jcastro> woo meat grinder!
[21:12] <Nafai> dang it.  just started editing a .h then noticed it said "generated by glib-enums"
[21:13] <Nafai> glib-mkenums
[21:18] <tedg> Nafai: If you could put the bluetooth mail into a bug so we can assign it, that'd be cool.
[21:18] <Nafai> Sure thing
[21:18] <Nafai> Should I assign to bratsche or let you handle it?
[21:24] <tedg> Nafai: Assign it to bratsche, he's not here right now to correct me :)
[21:24] <Nafai> sweet
[21:24] <Nafai> :)
[21:38] <jcastro> kenvandine: xchat with your plugin is segfaulting for me now
[21:38] <kenvandine> jcastro, oh, cool!
[21:38] <kenvandine> get a apport crash dialog?
[21:38] <kenvandine> it happened to you before too... 
[21:38] <kenvandine> but can't repro it
[21:38] <jcastro> no, and now gwibber crashes as well
[21:38] <jcastro> I just updated all the indicator stuff in lucid
[21:39] <jcastro> and then logged out and back in 
[21:39] <jcastro> empathy is segfaulting too
[21:39] <kenvandine> eek
[21:39] <chrisccoulson_> jcastro - i get the same issue here
[21:39] <kenvandine> oh?
[21:39] <chrisccoulson_> with everything in the messaging menu
[21:39] <kenvandine> tedg, ^^
[21:39] <jcastro> yep
[21:39] <chrisccoulson_> all of the apps crash at launch
[21:40] <jcastro> yeah, evo too
[21:40] <kenvandine> not here... but i didn't reboot
[21:40] <kenvandine> let me do that in a minute
[21:40] <tedg> Uhg
[21:40] <chrisccoulson_> tedg / jcastro - bug 524084
[21:40] <ubot4> chrisccoulson_: Bug 524084 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/524084 is private
[21:40] <chrisccoulson_> it's got a fairly complete trace already
[21:41] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: Public?
[21:41] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - i'll subscribe you, it's still got my coredump attached
[21:41] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - you should be able to see that now
[21:42] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: I can.  Thanks!
[21:42] <seb128> bug number?
[21:42] <chrisccoulson_> hey seb128
[21:42] <chrisccoulson_> bug 524084 FYI ;)
[21:42] <ubot4> chrisccoulson_: Bug 524084 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/524084 is private
[21:44] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - i subscribed you too - it seems like none of the usual teams have been subscribed yet so people can view it
[21:44] <seb128> thanks
[21:44] <seb128> ok, it's only an issue when the message indicator is running
[21:44] <seb128> I removed the applet and stopped the service
[21:45] <seb128> I can run empathy now
[21:45] <chrisccoulson_> heh, i didn't think of that ;)
[21:45] <chrisccoulson_> i'm back on my desktop for now
[21:45] <chrisccoulson_> my laptop just keeps freezing anyway
[21:45] <seb128> plymouth?
[21:46] <chrisccoulson_> i've got that uninstalled
[21:46] <seb128> ok, no luck then
[21:46] <chrisccoulson_> it keeps freezing when i log in now. it took me about 6 reboots to log in earlier
[21:46] <tedg> Nothing changed libindicate... it must be that we're asking for menus now.
[21:46] <chrisccoulson_> and my gf used it during the day today, and she said it froze several times too :(
[21:47] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - the trace would suggest it's crashing when fetching properties from some object exposed over dbus
[21:47] <chrisccoulson_> so yeah, you're probably right there ;)
[21:47] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: Yeah, we added a menu property a few weeks ago.  It just wasn't used much outside of the test suite.
[21:49] <seb128> ==2581== Invalid read of size 1
[21:49] <seb128> ==2581==    at 0x4026038: strlen (mc_replace_strmem.c:282)
[21:49] <seb128> ==2581==    by 0x43A1D4C: _dbus_marshal_write_basic (dbus-marshal-basic.c:775)
[21:49] <seb128> ==2581==    by 0x438D9F2: _dbus_type_writer_write_basic (dbus-marshal-recursive.c:1588)
[21:49] <seb128> ==2581==    by 0x439293D: dbus_message_iter_append_basic (dbus-message.c:2284)
[21:50] <seb128> ==2581==    by 0x436E899: ??? (in /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0)
[21:50] <seb128> tedg, ^ that's what valgrind says
[21:51] <tedg> I'm placing bets that this fixes it, but I haven't tested yet: lp:~ted/libindicate/menu-unavailable
[21:51] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - just looking in get_property in server.c. when querying PROP_MENU, nothing sets the GValue if priv->dbus_menu is NULL
[21:51] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: Yes
[21:51] <chrisccoulson_> is that an issue?
[21:51] <chrisccoulson_> (sorry, i've not looked at that branch yet)
[21:51] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: Apparently the writer for objects can't handle that.
[21:51] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, i did wonder that
[21:52] <tedg> chrisccoulson_: It's not an issue for strings typically, but the object type is odd.
[21:53] <jpetersen> tedg, I get this "** ERROR **: Failed to register GObject with DBusConnection" crash for every application using app_indicator
[21:54] <jpetersen> if i kill indicator-application-service twice
[21:55] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - do you want to apply tedg's change to the current package?
[21:56] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, I'm testing it currently
[21:56] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, I've it in my local bzr and built and installed
[21:56] <seb128> by empathy still doesn't start
[21:56] <seb128> it doesn't segfault either though
[21:56] <seb128> Program exited with code 01.
[21:56] <seb128> says gdb
[21:56] <chrisccoulson_> ah, i've not tested it yet
[21:56] <seb128> tedg, it stops the segfault but empathy exit instead now
[21:58] <tedg> Let me grab the empathy debug package.
[21:59] <seb128> tedg, you get the issue too?
[21:59] <tedg> seb128: Yeah, it's weird that it's erroring on writing to dbus.
[22:00] <seb128> gwibber says the dbus service doesn't reply
[22:00] <seb128> and doesn't start either
[22:00] <tedg> seb128: I wonder if it's validating the object and "" doesn't work.
[22:00] <seb128> tedg, downgrading libindicate to 0.3.2 doesn't fix it
[22:00] <tedg> seb128: No, fix will be downgrading indicator-messages
[22:01]  * seb128 grrrs at kenvandine
[22:02] <kenvandine> ?
[22:02] <seb128> tedg, indeed that does it
[22:02] <kenvandine> uh oh
[22:02]  * kenvandine reads back
[22:02] <seb128> kenvandine, you ought to put some extra testing in your upgrades
[22:02] <seb128> kenvandine, there is a reason I restart my session so often ;-)
[22:02] <seb128> kenvandine, basically any indicator message customer crashes in lucid now
[22:02] <kenvandine> i usually test in a VM... but i did test in my session this time
[22:03] <seb128> ie empathy, xchat, evo, etc
[22:03] <seb128> gwibber
[22:06] <tedg> seb128: In the branch, it should fix the server now.  Let me fix the listener now.
[22:06] <kenvandine> i am still puzzled... 
[22:06] <seb128> tedg, should I upload the libindicate change?
[22:07] <kenvandine> i haven't rebooted, but i did logout/in
[22:07] <kenvandine> my sound is hosed, but i think that is the case for everyone
[22:07] <seb128> kenvandine, you get the new message indicator with icons in the menu?
[22:07] <tedg> seb128: Give me one min, let me see if I can fix both sides real quick.
[22:07] <kenvandine> no... no icons
[22:07] <seb128> tedg, thanks
[22:07] <kenvandine> indicator-messages                     0.3.1-0ubuntu2
[22:08] <seb128> kenvandine, so you don't run the update your uploaded...
[22:08] <seb128> -r
[22:08] <seb128> which is 0.3.2
[22:08] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - it seems the reporter of bug 524072 assigned it to you already
[22:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 524072 in libindicate (Ubuntu) "empathy crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_message_iter_append_basic() (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524072
[22:08] <kenvandine> oh... well crap...
[22:08] <chrisccoulson_> i don't know if he discussed it with you first ;)
[22:09] <kenvandine> that explains it i guess
[22:09] <seb128> kenvandine, please next time if you are too busy to test let me do the updates...
[22:09] <seb128> anyway let's wait for tedg to fix it now
[22:09] <kenvandine> oh shit
[22:09] <kenvandine> i updated it in my VM... but tested it on my laptop :)
[22:10]  * kenvandine shouldn't keep ssh shells open to my VM
[22:10] <kenvandine> i usually do all the testing in the VM, and have my pbuilder results dir mounted in it
[22:11] <kenvandine> but i wanted to test to see if updates fixed sound 
[22:11] <kenvandine> so restarted the wrong session :/
[22:11]  * kenvandine should stick to using VMs 
[22:11] <kenvandine> yeah... it's crashing in kvm
[22:11] <seb128> kenvandine, ok, no point trying to blame anybody there now
[22:11] <kenvandine> well, sorry
[22:12] <kenvandine> i need to stick to my process :)
[22:12] <seb128> that's what happens with ff rush :p
[22:12] <seb128> lucid was too stable we fixed that now ;-)=
[22:12] <kenvandine> yeah, ETOOMANYTHINGSHAPPENING
[22:12] <seb128> csd makes things sluggish too
[22:12] <kenvandine> i know... the past couple of days have been bumpy
[22:12] <chrisccoulson_> it also makes the gdm greeter decorated
[22:12] <kenvandine> yeah, and i confirmed this weird rendering problem in f-spot is csd
[22:13] <kenvandine> tedg, ping me when you merge that, i'll upload and test the fix
[22:14] <seb128> kenvandine, I've already the libindicate side merged built and installed locally, I can do the server change too while I'm at it
[22:14] <jpetersen> Ok, I go to bed now, will look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/523041 tomorrow when it is not fixed than
[22:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523041 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object() (affects: 30) (dups: 2)" [Critical,Fix released]
[22:14] <seb128> jpetersen, 'night
[22:14] <jpetersen> thanks :)
[22:18] <tedg> kenvandine: That branch should be good now.
[22:20] <chrisccoulson_> yay\o/
[22:20] <seb128> kenvandine, which one?
[22:20]  * chrisccoulson_ hugs tedg
[22:21] <seb128> tedg, where is the fix now?
[22:22] <tedg> seb128: I just merge it into trunk and I'm putting it into our packaging branch.
[22:22] <tedg> seb128: So I'd say just pull that.
[22:22] <seb128> ok
[22:22] <seb128> do we need the lindicate change too?
[22:24] <tedg> seb128: Just a libindicate change.
[22:24] <seb128> oh
[22:24] <tedg> seb128: indicator-messages wasn't doing anything wrong, it was just causing the problem.
[22:24] <kenvandine> ok, so no indicator-messages
[22:24] <seb128> I though you said it was indicator-messages
[22:24]  * seb128 updates libindicate
[22:24] <tedg> No, downgrading indicator-messages fixed it because it stopped asking the question that offended libindicate.
[22:26] <kenvandine> we shouldn't offend libindicate
[22:26] <kenvandine> :-p
[22:28] <seb128> tedg, ok works
[22:28] <tedg> Woot!  \o/
[22:28] <kenvandine> seb128, ok so you have the upload?
[22:28] <tedg> Thanks everyone!
[22:28] <seb128> kenvandine, yes
[22:28] <seb128> tedg, thanks to you
[22:28] <kenvandine> great, thx!
[22:28] <seb128> np!
[22:28] <kenvandine> seb128, your sound is hosed too right?
[22:29]  * kenvandine wonders why more people aren't screaming about it
[22:29] <tedg> kenvandine: ronoc was a bunch.
[22:29] <kenvandine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/523716
[22:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523716 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "pulseaudio version defined as UNKNOWN, which breaks everything with build-dep on libpulse-dev (affects: 25) (dups: 8)" [High,Fix released]
[22:29] <seb128> kenvandine, that was fixed some hours ago I think
[22:30] <tedg> kenvandine: Do we need to repush indicator-sound then?
[22:30] <kenvandine> seb128, i don't think so
[22:30] <kenvandine> read the bug
[22:30] <seb128> oh ok
[22:30] <seb128> the .pc issue has been fixed
[22:31] <kenvandine> i've been messed up all day not having any music
[22:31] <kenvandine> oh well... alpha software :-D
[22:31] <tedg> kenvandine: That's what the Chumby is for! ;)
[22:31] <seb128> today is breakage day
[22:31] <kenvandine> lucid has been really stable for too long
[22:32] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, i was just thinking today about how great lucid is
[22:32] <seb128> and no, sound is not working there
[22:32] <chrisccoulson_> then i get home and everything breaks
[22:32] <chrisccoulson_> ;)
[22:32] <kenvandine> it's been too stable, we had to gang up on it and take it down!
[22:33] <chrisccoulson_> i think it's maybe time to upgrade my desktop to lucid
[22:34] <seb128> you like trouble? ;-)
[22:34] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - heh, i don't think i'd be too popular if i did that
[22:35] <jcastro> chrisccoulson_: you're fortunate, I have an X freezing bug for 3 weeks now; making my laptop basically a brick this whole time.
[22:36] <seb128> jcastro, don't speed too quickly
[22:36] <chrisccoulson_> jcastro, i'm seeing similar issues too
[22:36] <seb128> speak
[22:36] <seb128> jcastro, he was complaining about that too before ;-)
[22:36] <kenvandine> my wife wants me to upgrade her at alpha3
[22:36] <chrisccoulson_> kenvandine, you're upgrading your wife?
[22:37] <kenvandine> i might :)
[22:37] <chrisccoulson_> lol
[22:37] <kenvandine> she wants me too
[22:37] <jcastro> she needs to be ported to app indicators
[22:37] <kenvandine> hahahahaha!
[22:38] <Nafai> Question
[22:38] <Nafai> I get errors like this on stderr:
[22:38] <Nafai> (vino-server:6590): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_new_valist: object class `VinoStatusIcon' has no property named `indicator-name'
[22:38] <Nafai> Unfortunately, I have no idea which source line that corresponds to
[22:39] <Nafai> So, how do I track down what is causing that?
[22:42] <jcastro> also, me menu shows the stock "person" icon rather than my picture, though that's a minor thing compared to everything else right now
[22:44] <kenvandine> jcastro, that is hard coded for now
[22:44] <jcastro> ah ok
[22:45] <chrisccoulson> yay \o/
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> i can use xchat on lucid again now
[22:54] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - do the presence options in the me menu become sensitized for you when you start empathy?
[22:55] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: I can't start empathy, it segphaults
[22:55] <jcastro> I mean segfault. Not the person.
[22:55] <chrisccoulson> jcastro, you've not upgraded to the latest libindicate yet? ;)
[22:57] <Nafai> bbiab, grabbing dinner