[00:24] <gioacchino> hey
[00:25] <gioacchino> someone is using kde 4.4 with kubuntu ??
[00:25] <gioacchino> i have kubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[00:25] <gioacchino> and amarok crash everytime i try to start it
[00:27] <cbwcjw> I do with 32 bit, probably doesn't help :(
[00:37] <amdgoon> hello yannis
[00:42] <Zoot365> I'm trying to run Steel Beasts(simulation game) through Wine, but when it comes up the start screen is all pixilated and wierd coloured.  Whats wrong?
[00:43] <cbwcjw> !wine
[00:43] <Zoot365> 1wine
[00:43] <Zoot365> !wine
[00:44] <cbwcjw> Zoot, what I ment was try joining #wine with your question. Just type /join #wine
[00:44] <Zoot365> ok. Thanks.
[00:51] <Zoot365> Ok.  #wine is dead, or something and #winehq is silent.  Can anyone answer my question here?
[00:54] <cbwcjw> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313 That's all I can recommend. Sorry.
[00:56] <Zoot365> Thanks.
[01:10] <robin0800> hello
[01:11] <cbwcjw> !hi robin0800
[01:11] <cbwcjw> !hi | robin0800
[01:18] <robin0800> cbwcjw: just playing with the updated Quassel
[01:18] <khaije|amalt> i may be a fuddy duddy but konversation seems so much more friendly to me, i can't fathom why quassel is the default
[01:19] <cbwcjw> Quassel works well for me, but meh.
[01:20] <khaije|amalt> i'm sure it's awesome but atm it's too irritating for me to want to learn it
[01:20] <khaije|amalt> brb
[01:39] <salvad1> Hello. I cannot set dofferent zoom parameters to folders.
[01:39] <salvad1> Is this normal in Dolphin?
[01:40] <salvad1> I mean, set some zoom value to one folder and other to other folder and that each folder remembers its zoom value.
[01:40] <salvad1> Is that possible?
[01:42] <james_l> What do you mean by zoom?
[01:42] <tranzform2> ok where is the list of channels...  sorry very newb here
[01:42] <clone1018> okay so I stoped kdm. Did Xorg -configure and then started KDM. Now when graphical mode starts it loads then turns into a blank screen
[01:42] <salvad1> Applying a zoom value to the a folder in dolphin.
[01:43] <james_l> salvad1: If it's what I was trying to find the solution to, which is large icons in detail mode, this worked for me (mostly I use konqueror): Ctrl + Mouse Wheel, and it's stayed the same in all folders.
[01:43] <salvad1> To see bigger thumbnails icons.
[01:44] <salvad1> I do not want the same zoom value in all the folder.
[01:44] <james_l> I think that may work, try it and see.
[01:44] <james_l> Hrm
[01:44] <salvad1> Each value to each folder.
[01:46] <clone1018> Can someone please help lol. Console mode sucks
[01:47] <james_l> salvad1: While my ctrl + mousewheel works to change that, it doesn't seem to want to be confined to a particular folder.
[01:47] <james_l> clone1018: KDE 4.4?
[01:47] <clone1018> The most recent version that comes with Kubuntu
[01:48] <james_l> What graphics card, which driver, and have you made any changes to kdm?
[01:49] <clone1018> ATI Radeon x1250. No driver (But worked perfectly before) and no
[01:50] <clone1018> Okay it seems like the background loads and programs load (or at least the wallet) but not the ui
[01:54] <clone1018> and I cant click on any links.
[01:54] <clone1018> lol
[02:03] <clone1018> So ya
[02:03] <clone1018> Any ideas?
[02:07] <Svetlio> hi all
[02:07] <Svetlio> can you help me
[02:07] <Svetlio> please
[02:07] <Svetlio> ?
[02:07] <cbwcjw> !enter
[02:08] <Svetlio> About Kubuntu,i can't connect with wireless
[02:08] <Svetlio> i can connect with lan cabel but with wirelles i can't
[02:08] <Svetlio> im a new in "linux world"
[02:09] <Svetlio> and.. i don't know..
[02:09] <Svetlio> how repire my problem
[02:09] <Svetlio> repair*
[02:11] <Billy> Hello
[02:11] <Svetlio> hi
[02:12] <Svetlio> Billy can you help me?
[02:12] <Billy> i am looking at connecting apache to sql server
[02:12] <Billy> can it be done?
[02:12] <Svetlio> i dont know
[02:13] <Svetlio> sry dude
[02:13] <clone1018> Why would you connect apache and sql?
[02:13] <clone1018> They dont need to be connected as apache doesnt use sql
[02:13] <Billy> school project .
[02:13] <clone1018> Well as far as I know
[02:13] <clone1018> They dont connect
[02:13] <Daughain> I love how often I see that answer around here. =)
[02:13] <Daughain> "school project" that is.
[02:13] <clone1018> lol
[02:14] <Billy> yes ... lol
[02:14] <Billy> i got to fire up some transaction to a sql sitting on windows 2003 server and get some data back from a sql server
[02:14] <Billy> yes, ms sql server
[02:14]  * Daughain chuckles....
[02:15] <clone1018> lol
[02:15] <clone1018> btw
[02:15] <clone1018> this is kubuntu help
[02:15] <Daughain> THats ok, Billy, I wanna make a netbook act like a cel phone. =) And, still trying to define the questions to ask about it. =)
[02:16] <Billy> yes, i wanna make my netbook to a server as well.. lol
[02:16] <Billy> gotta go
[02:17] <clone1018> anyways
[02:17] <Daughain> I think he may have missed my point...
[02:17] <clone1018> I am stuck in console mode
[02:17] <clone1018> with irssi
[02:17] <Daughain> Damn, what did *you* delete??
[02:17] <clone1018> lol
[02:17] <clone1018> I just restarted kdm
[02:18] <Daughain> Thats how I got there the last two times. =)
[02:18] <Daughain> Deleted the wrong package.
[02:18] <Daughain> restarted kdm????
[02:18] <clone1018> stopped it
[02:18] <clone1018> then started it
[02:18] <clone1018> To configure xorg
[02:19] <Daughain> via terminal?
[02:19] <clone1018> via tty1
[02:19] <Daughain> You try a system reboot?
[02:19] <clone1018> Yes
[02:19] <clone1018> several times
[02:19] <Daughain> I remember doing something like that once and a reboot solved it.
[02:20] <Daughain> OK, well, Thats all the advice I had...Sorry.
[02:20] <clone1018> lol
[02:20] <clone1018> thanks anyways
[02:20] <Daughain> I may not know much, but I still try to help. =)
[02:20] <clone1018> I guess I will just use telnet to browse the web
[02:20] <clone1018> :P
[02:20] <Daughain> EEeew...
[02:20] <Daughain> I remember telnet...
[02:20] <clone1018> ya lol
[02:21] <Daughain> From *before* gui.
[02:21] <Daughain> Good luck, mate.
[02:23] <ev0sx1> folks
[02:23] <Daughain> Morning, ev0sx1
[02:24] <ev0sx1> assume you have 2 partitions. one with 80gb, and another with 10gb. I have linux installed also on the 80gb partition, but i installed on the 10gb partition an older version. Both of kubuntu 9.10. How can i make the linux install on the 10gb partition assume all system files are on the 10gb, but the home folder and all other preferences and installed programs are on the 80gb partition?
[02:25] <m44> Buenas noches
[02:26] <m44> ¿Alguien vivo?
[02:26] <e_t_> !es | m44
[02:31] <Daughain> Anyone know if it is plossible to access the phone number assigned to a 3G card byu the carrier and use it to place and receive calls?
[02:32] <jrbello> dddddd
[02:34] <e_t_> Daughain: I would expect not. I think data communications go over a different frequency than voice.
[02:35] <Daughain> Not with 3G, as far as I have been able to tell. All the same. GPRS/Edge is different.
[02:43] <clone1018> I stopped and started KDM and now the UI wont load up. How do I fix this?
[02:45] <james_l> clone1018: do you mean the KDE UI or the KDM login window?
[02:45] <clone1018> I set it to auto login. So it logs me in. Then the splash screen pops up. Loads then the bg goes away and all I am left with is cursor and black screen
[02:46] <Daughain> Thats why I keep gnome, and dont auto login...
[02:47] <clone1018> but kde is awesome
[02:47] <clone1018> Gnome is boring lol
[02:47] <Daughain> I agree, but, when I screw up kde, I can backup to gnome, and usualy get kde fixed. =)
[02:47] <Daughain> ONly had to do a kde reinstall once, so far. =)\
[02:47] <clone1018> is it that buggy?
[02:48] <Daughain> NO, I'm that new. =)
[02:48] <e_t_> clone1018: it sounds like Plasma isn't starting automatically. See if you can get krunner (alt+F2). If you can, type plasma-desktop and hit enter.
[02:49] <clone1018> I did
[02:49] <clone1018> Still blank screen
[02:50] <e_t_> Try opening Konsole and typing plasma-desktop there. That way, you'll be able to see any output.
[02:51] <clone1019> I get tons of errors
[02:51] <clone1019> Most of them invalid index
[02:53] <e_t_> What I've seen work in the past is to delete ~/.kde/share/config/[anything with plasma in the name].
[02:55] <clone1019> Wait seriously?
[02:55] <clone1019> Dont i need plasma?
[02:55]  * Daughain chuckles...
[02:56] <clone1019> :<
[02:56] <Daughain> Deleting plasma files will force kde to re-create them.
[02:56] <Daughain> After a few reboots...
[02:56] <clone1019> lol
[02:56] <clone1019> ok
[02:56] <Daughain> I dont know your answer, but I can explain it once I hear it.....????
[03:01] <ev0sx1> Daughain: you there?
[03:01] <Daughain> Usualy.
[03:02] <Daughain> Gmme a few more horus and the answer may be partially. =)
[03:02] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:02] <ev0sx1> Daughain: if possible, help me out
[03:02] <ev0sx1> assume you have 2 partitions. one with 80gb, and another with 10gb. I have linux installed also on the 80gb partition, but i installed on the 10gb partition an older version. Both of kubuntu 9.10. How can i make the linux install on the 10gb partition assume all system files are on the 10gb, but the home folder and all other preferences and installed programs are on the 80gb partition?
[03:03] <clone1018> Okay I deleted everything I could find
[03:03] <clone1018> And restarted
[03:03] <clone1018> 2 times
[03:03] <clone1018> it appeared for a second then went away
[03:03] <Daughain> May take a few more reboots, clone1018
[03:03] <clone1018> ok lol
[03:04] <ev0sx1> Daughain: any help, or you will keep ignoring my question?
[03:05] <Daughain> ev0sx1: I'm a newb, honestly.....You will need to make some manual edits to files, but I dont know which ones. =( Dude, I got three p[eople asking me questions right now, and I can only tyupe so fast.
[03:05] <ev0sx1> kay
[03:05] <ev0sx1> sorry
[03:05] <ev0sx1> and thanks anyway
[03:05] <Daughain> ev0sx1: All I can say about which files would be to google it.....
[03:06] <Daughain> What ya need to do is change pathnames.
[03:06] <e_t_> ev0sx1: you will need to edit /etc/fstab.
[03:06] <ev0sx1> e_t_: only?
[03:06] <Daughain> You can do that in fstab???
[03:06] <ev0sx1> i was messing out with the blkid
[03:06] <ev0sx1> but
[03:06] <ev0sx1> i was unable to be 100% sure of the real UUID
[03:07] <ev0sx1> i know how to change the /home folder to the other partition
[03:07] <ev0sx1> easily done on the user manager screen
[03:07] <ev0sx1> as for the other folders i don't know.
[03:07] <ev0sx1> All i know is that on windows it was easy
[03:07] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:09] <ev0sx1> e_t_: any idea? i found help online, but only to change the home screen
[03:09] <clone1018> :/
[03:09] <clone1018> 10th time restarting
[03:09] <e_t_> I don't know how to get the UUID either. If you find it, you should be able to add an fstab entry with a mount point of /home and that *should* make it a permanent mount.
[03:10] <jacquesdupontd> hi guys
[03:11] <e_t_> clone1018: what version of Kubuntu, of KDE?
[03:11] <ev0sx1> yes i know... and getting the blkid command is also easy
[03:11] <jacquesdupontd> i'm actually building my touchbook prototype that should be produced if things are going ok in the year
[03:11] <clone1018> Newest of Kubuntu and Not sure on KDE
[03:11] <jacquesdupontd> that said i'm searching for a kubuntu version to be used smoothly with fingers and touch screen only
[03:12] <clone1018> But i think its the newest
[03:12] <e_t_> clone1018: one way to find out your KDE version is to open a KDE app (dolphin, konsole, konqueror) and click about > about KDE.
[03:13] <clone1018> ok one sec
[03:13] <clone1018> 2.3.2
[03:15] <clone1018> should I update?
[03:15] <e_t_> clone1018: KDE 2.3.2? That sounds ancient.
[03:19] <clone1018_> 4.3.2*
[03:19] <clone1018_> lol
[03:21] <clone1018_> Should I update?
[03:22] <asobi> how do i configure a new monitor? switched from crt to lcd, lcd is using old resolution from crt
[03:22] <Daughain> 4.3.2 is what I installed last month.....
[03:23] <Daughain> But., I didnt know 4.4 was officially released yet.
[03:24] <e_t_> KDE 4.4 was released two weeks ago (time?), but you'd have to get it from the kubuntu backports ppa. It's not Ubuntu official, and won't be until Lucid.
[03:25] <clone1018_> So what do I do...
[03:25] <Daughain> e_t_: Ah, ok. I knew it was slated for lucid, but didnt know they actualy released on backports...
[03:26] <Daughain> Also been busy wth other things the last few weeks.
[03:27] <clone1018_> So... I just wait
[03:29] <e_t_> If you want to upgrade to 4.4, type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" (no quotes), then do the update/upgrade cycle.
[03:32] <Daughain> Nah, waiting on lucid for a variety of reasons. =)
[03:33] <da> do they make a wire to hook up for 2 machines, 1 w/windows, 1 w/linux?
[03:34] <e_t_> da: you mean a crossover ethernet cable?
[03:34]  * Daughain chuckles.
[03:34] <da> I guess,
[03:35] <da> does that work?
[03:35] <e_t_> There's no special equipment to connect a Windows and a Linux computer, it's all in the configuration.
[03:36] <da> And how does that work?
[03:36] <e_t_> It depends on what you're planning to do.
[03:39] <da> Don't know what I want to do, I would like to have a new computer with windows XP, but I still like Linux.
[03:41] <e_t_> The easiest way to network them is to setup static IP addresses (set 192.168.0.2 on one and 192.168.0.3 on the other). Then, you'll need to setup Samba on the Linux machine. That will give you the ability to share files.
[03:43] <da> Is Sanba a linux OS?
[03:43] <clone1018_> Samba is a file sharing server
[03:43] <e_t_> No. It's a program that lets Linux share files with Windows.
[03:44] <da> Does Ubuntu have it on its OS?
[03:44] <e_t_> You can install it easily.
[03:45] <da> okay, I'll go look. ty
[03:51] <clone1018> I upgraded to the newest version
[03:51] <clone1018> Still no UI
[03:51] <e_t_> plasma still crashing if you start it manually?
[03:53] <clone1018> yes
[03:56] <e_t_> Hmm. I checked Google, but didn't find much helpful. The first step is always delete ~/.kde/share/config/*plasma*rc. Some people had it work for them and for some, it didn't. I don't know what to tell you. The last time I had a plasma issue like that, I ended up re-installing (because I usually messed up other stuff too).
[03:56] <clone1018> i guess I will reinstall then
[03:56] <clone1018> sigh
[03:57] <e_t_> On the bright side (if there is one), I seem to learn a little more every time I reinstall.
[03:57] <ubuntuku> clone1018: type startx
[03:57] <clone1018> lol
[03:57] <clone1018> x is started a long time ago
[03:58] <ubuntuku> delete *authority files in your home folder
[03:58] <ubuntuku> then type: sudo shutdown -r now
[03:59] <clone1018> ...
[03:59] <e_t_> ubuntuku: will that fix Plasma?
[03:59] <ubuntuku> yes
[04:00] <ubuntuku> delete .Xauthority
[04:00] <ubuntuku> delete .ICEauthority
[04:00] <ubuntuku> then type: sudo shutdown -r now
[04:07] <clone1018> that didnt fix it
[04:10] <clone1018> Anymore ideas?
[04:10] <Cheapy> If I enable desktop effects, there is a 2-3 second delay between when I click on an application on the taskbar and when it is restored to its previous size. Does anyone know why this could be? I've googled everything I could think of to no avail.
[04:11] <snarkfish> ok so i just rescanned my amarok database and now it is totally F***ed
[04:11] <snarkfish> what is the deal?
[04:11] <ubuntuku> hmm that trick worked for me
[04:12] <clone1018> Here is what i did in order. startx > delete those files and then exectuted the shutdown command you said
[04:12] <ubuntuku> try remove ~/.kde/share/config
[04:13] <e_t_> snarkfish: in what way is your database .... ?
[04:14] <clone1018> ubuntuku: and then what
[04:14] <snarkfish> well i lied
[04:14] <snarkfish> i restarted amarok and now everything is back to where it belongs..
[04:14] <snarkfish> wierd
[04:15] <clone1018> "Have you tried turning it on and off again"... "No.... Oh hey it works now"
[04:16] <snarkfish> well after all the problems Im facing i think im due for alittle frustration
[04:16] <snarkfish> :)
[04:16] <clone1018> hehe
[04:16] <clone1018> all the problems you are facing?
[04:16] <clone1018> I dont have a UI
[04:16] <snarkfish> why would rescanning cause all my music to dissapear
[04:16] <snarkfish> if you dont have a UI then why are you in here?
[04:17] <clone1018> Anything Linux is buggy
[04:17] <e_t_> Technically, the command line is a UI. You just lack a *G*UI.
[04:17] <snarkfish> lol
[04:17] <clone1018> I am in here because I need my GUI back
[04:17] <clone1018> lol
[04:17] <ubuntuku> clone: reboot again sudo shutdown -r now
[04:17] <snarkfish> oh you have gui problems
[04:17] <snarkfish> well good luck dude
[04:17] <snarkfish> later all
[04:18] <skreech> Is there a rekonq 0.4 ppa?
[04:21] <clone1018> No luck
[04:21] <clone1018> http://pastebin.com/mdac5b3d
[04:22] <clone1018> Thats whats in the Developer Information
[04:24] <jschall> My canon digital camera does not show up on the "recently plugged in" devices list when i plug it in, but i can go system settings -> advanced -> digital camera and its there. Its not mounted in dolphin, but i can go to camera:/ and there's a folder for it there but no pictures anywhere. gwenview does not see it.
[04:24] <jschall> worked fine with gnome.
[04:24] <jschall> this is with kde 4.4
[04:25] <clone1018> I guess
[04:25] <e_t_> At this point, I'd file a bug report with KDE. If nothing else, the reporting process might turn up a similar bug and point you in the right direction.
[04:25] <clone1018> I will just reinstall
[04:25] <jschall> e_t_: who, me?
[04:25] <clone1018> Nome
[04:26] <e_t_> jschall: not you, clone1018. Sorry, I should have specified.
[04:26] <ubuntuku> clone: do u have plasma-desktop installed?
[04:26] <clone1018> Maybe. I'm not sure at this point lol
[04:26] <jschall> should i just install gnome-volume-manager?
[04:26] <clone1018> I did at first
[04:26] <clone1018> But now its anyones guess
[04:27] <ubuntuku> apt-cache policy plasma-desktop
[04:27] <e_t_> jschall: Have you tried Digikam? Also, what model camera?
[04:27] <clone1018> Installed: (none)
[04:27] <ubuntuku> install it then
[04:28] <clone1018> apt-get install plasma-desktop?
[04:28] <jschall> e_t_: powershot s3 is
[04:28] <ubuntuku> yep
[04:28] <jschall> e_t_: no haven't tried digikam
[04:28] <jschall> e_t_: but i shouldn't need any extra programs for my freaking camera to work!
[04:28] <jschall> e_t_: i'll try it
[04:28] <clone1018> If this works
[04:28] <clone1018> I am going to freak out lol
[04:29] <e_t_> jschall: If that model uses SD cards for storage, I'd probably just use a card reader.  I suggested Digikam because it's a fairly complete photo program, and I have used it in the past with my XTi.
[04:30] <jschall> e_t_: don't have a card reader.
[04:30] <jschall> e_t_: trying digikam
[04:43] <clone1018> Thanks so much for everyone who helped :D
[04:52] <megaman> how can i change the background and text colors when i send?
[04:52] <james_l> clone1018: What did it end up being?
[04:55] <clone1018> Well after all that I dont know
[04:55] <clone1018> lol
[04:55] <clone1018> I know it was installed at first
[04:56] <clone1018> But at the end it wasnt
[04:56] <e_t_> Well, it's always the simple things.
[04:57] <james_l> Yeah, I rebuilt a package because the one in kubuntu wasn't new enough... I rebuilt it on a different machine, and freaked out, then did a --version, and realized what I did.
[04:58] <james_l> ssh is a wonderful tool, and a very frustrating at times.
[05:45] <David_HII> anyone got any experience fixing resolution issues with ubuntu?
[05:47] <e_t_> What kind of resolution issues?
[05:48] <David_HII>  only have 800x600 and 640:480 avail
[05:48] <e_t_> Desktop/laptop? ATI/nVidia? Ubuntu version?
[05:49] <David_HII> desktop emachines  and ubuntu 9.10
[05:49] <David_HII> intel chipset
[05:49] <e_t_> Kubuntu, right?
[05:50] <David_HII> ubuntu and Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
[05:50] <e_t_> What should the monitor display at?
[05:51] <David_HII> 1024x768
[05:53] <hanbin973> merong
[05:53] <hanbin973> 메
[05:53] <hanbin973> 롱
[05:58] <e_t_> David_Hill: OK. First, we need to kill Xorg (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop). Then, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Finally, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start.
[05:59] <genii> e_t_: That won't make a new xorg.conf any more
[05:59] <genii> you want: sudo X -configure && sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11  instead
[06:01] <David_HII> ok
[06:01] <David_HII> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[06:01] <David_HII> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop gdm
[06:02] <David_HII> stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.97" (uid=1000 pid=6512 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[06:02] <David_HII> david@ubuntu-desktop:~/Downloads$
[06:02] <FloodBotK3> David_HII: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:02] <David_HII> so do i need to do somthing different?
[06:04] <genii> sudo stop gdm            for stopping it, and sudo start gdm    to start it
[06:04] <David_HII> ok
[06:04] <genii> Although you likely want kdm there if you're using Kubuntu
[06:07] <root> e_t_:  give me the instructions one more time please
[06:08] <agb> i need help i already have ubuntu with gnome since last year but i decide to install kde, everything fine but  when i tried to connect with a wireless network it simply no conect i've tried with many networks but  nothing it only waiting for connection please help (PD: sorry for my english, i was in gnome for obvious rason jeje :D)
[06:09] <e_t_> Guest99213: genii says my fix won't work anymore. After a second look, s/he's probably right.
[06:09] <genii> Guest99213:  You can generate an xorg.conf by: logout to gdm ... choose "console login" as session type. Once logged into console, stop X: sudo stop gdm         then generate a new xorg: sudo X -configure       then copy it to where it should be: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11      then restart gdm: sudo start gdm
[06:10] <Guest99213> ok ty
[06:10] <Guest99213> brb
[06:11] <e_t_> agb: is the network you are trying to connect to password protected? Did you enter the password?
[06:12] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[06:13] <jacquesdupontd> im sorry to be asking that but i'm trying to add xinerama to an xorgserver X11 that has built without it
[06:13] <jacquesdupontd> how can i do that ? am i obliged to recompile ?
[06:14] <agb> yes i've written the password of each network but never connect there is something i didn't say: kde can connect with a cable network only the wireless have problems :S
[06:16] <e_t_> agb: If you log into the Gnome desktop, does it work right?
[06:19] <Bugsbane> Anyone know what version of Koffice will be in Kubuntu 10.04? Feature freeze is today and it's still at 2.0.2, while even Kubuntu 9.10 has Koffice 2.1...
[06:19] <agb> yes in gnome there is no problem, i don't think that the  problem is a driver because in kde the network manager find the wireless networks but even when i select one and in the new window i put the net info there is still waiting for connection and never connect
[06:23] <e_t_> agb: Hmm. I researched your problem, and a few people on the forums suggest trying wicd (sudo apt-get install wicd).
[06:24] <agb> i can install it in gnome and no problem?
[06:25] <agb> so when i have installed it i log in kde
[06:25] <agb> ?
[06:25] <e_t_> wicd does not depend on any desktop. you could use it in kde, gnome, xfce...
[06:25] <agb> ahhh
[06:25] <agb> thanks!!!!!!! :D
[06:26] <e_t_> agb: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[06:32] <agb> :D
[06:33] <agb> ooo i was in kde jeje thanks e_t_
[06:38] <navetz> hey guys, i currently have a server that is running fairly slow. How do I find out what is causing it to bog down? I want to know if its the internet connection, or perhaps enough ram, or not enough processing power.
[07:02] <DarkriftX> what handles edge snapping? wm? dm? win decorator?
[07:16] <nikhil_> hi guys, is synaptic package manager available for kubuntu 9.10? I tried searching software manager but i only get synaptic pointing device drivers
[07:21] <DarkriftX> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:21] <DarkriftX> will do it
[07:22] <DarkriftX> but i think it came installed by default
[07:55] <Speedy2> Anyone using digikam 1.10 with KDE 4.4 SC ?
[08:52] <vbgunz> fellas I really hope this isn't too long but in Konqueror 4.4 I get 5 certificate checks for this link on wiredmagazine http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/02/e-readers-innovations-2010/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Index+3+(Top+Stories+2))&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
[08:52] <vbgunz> why so many, one time I got 12
[09:02] <Sirconis> newbie question: Is kubuntu basically a different UI for ubuntu, kinda like a skin? Can it be applied over an existing ubuntu installation without losing anything?
[09:16] <oinkoinkoink> Supppp guys
[10:04] <amichair> will oo.o 3.2 be backported to karmic?
[10:04] <shadeslayer> amichair: maybe
[10:04] <amichair> shadeslayer: are you sure about that? :-p
[10:05] <shadeslayer> amichair: well if the developers are free enough... sure why not
[10:20] <Mamarok> amichair: maybe means exactly that, may be :)
[10:21] <amichair> Mamarok: ;-)
[10:24] <shadeslayer> amichair: well do you know packaging?
[10:25] <shadeslayer> amichair: you can build packages in your PPA and then request them to be backported...
[10:26] <shadeslayer> (idk if you can do that even if you dont know packaging)
[11:08] <adonys> hi
[11:20] <starslights> morning to everyone
[11:27] <Galvatron> Hi
[11:28] <Galvatron> Is there any way to install KDE 4.3.x on Kubuntu 9.04, since it was removed from repos? I can;t migrate to Kubuntu 9.10 because of problems ith X.org and Compiz.
[11:41] <ben_q> hello, which program can I use to create an iso of a video dvd? diskdump does not remove the copy-protection and the iso is thus not playable on a mediatank :(
[11:45] <jarle> is there a script that will be run when X starts no matter if I use KDE/kdm or Gnome/gdm? So far it seems like neither ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession is executed in a standard kubuntu startup?
[12:38] <Anubis> hi ! is anyone tried kde sc 4.4 ?
[12:38] <AzikaCorp> Anubis: yes
[12:39] <Anubis> AzikaCorp: any problems with 4.4 ?
[12:40] <AzikaCorp> when I reboot, my screen was black, I could only see my cursor but I was able to lauch any soft
[12:42] <AzikaCorp> Anubis: I installed plasma-desktop and plasma-desktopthemes-artwork, and no problem anymore
[12:43] <Anubis> i see. i asked because i want to know if it is ok to try it without messing my kde box
[12:45] <Lantizia1> Hey! any KDE/Firefox users here?
[12:45] <AzikaCorp> yes
[12:45] <Lantizia1> I'm curious to know if when you go to a save/open dialog box - if you get a GTK/Gnome one or a Qt/KDE one
[12:46] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia1: KDE one
[12:47] <Lantizia1> interesting - but it's the same Firefox package that a normal Ubuntu (gnome) user would install right?
[12:47] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia1: of course ^^
[12:48] <Lantizia1> so what lets firefox know it should launch the KDE file chooser?
[12:48] <Lantizia1> or is firefox just happens to be both kde and gnome "aware" and checks itself?
[12:51] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia1: there's a gnome package and a KDE package
[12:51] <Lantizia1> you just confirmed they're the same
[12:54] <Lantizia1> AzikaCorp: ?
[12:59] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia1: in this case, KDE take care about that
[13:01] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia1: all this is possible thanks to the modularity of linux
[13:03] <Vge> hey, is it possible again to use 3.x lookalike desktop in KDE 4.x?
[13:08] <lalalol> hi, does anyone know how to make a shortcut for the System Monitor?
[13:26] <Vge> lalalol: create new link to application->application tab, "ksysguard" as command?
[13:29] <lalalol> i mean a keyboard shortcut Vge,sorry
[13:31] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:34] <Vge> lalalol: ctrl+esc ?
[13:34] <shadowhywind> hay all, i did a  bunch of upgrades a few days ago, to KDE 4.4 I believe. Now after a min the monitor goes off. Theres even time, when I am doing stuff, it will blink off for a second. Any ideas?
[13:35] <lalalol> Vge, yeah, thats system activity, i want system monitor, then i can watch my cpu and swap and ram
[13:39] <BluesKaj> lalalol, have you explored kmenu apps at all ...look around before asking ppl to hold your hand at every turn
[13:39] <lalalol> yes i have
[13:41] <BluesKaj> then you'll find the sytem monitor there
[13:48] <lalalol> i want a keyboard shortcut for it
[13:48] <n8w1ng> hey
[13:49] <n8w1ng> how do i print(lpr) under a different username than im logged in?
[13:51] <n8w1ng> anyone?
[13:52] <Kolia> shadowhywind: are you sure you upgraded completely?
[13:52] <shadowhywind> Kolia: I have no reasons to believe otherwise
[13:53] <Kolia> shadowhywind: what does sudo apt-get upgrade says ?
[13:53] <Kolia> no blocked or kept back packages?
[13:54] <shadowhywind> well, i just ran that a few mins ago, just some firefox upgrades, which I did. So now everythings been updated, nothing held back
[13:54] <Kolia> ok
[13:54] <Kolia> no idea then
[13:57] <andrey_> opa
[14:03] <n8w1ng> how do i pass a username while printin via lpr?
[14:16] <Vroomfondle> hmmm... having added the PPA for KDE4.4, how exactly does one install it? An aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:17] <Vroomfondle> doesn't seem to list the packages I'd expect
[14:17] <shadeslayer> Vroomfondle: sudo apt-get update first
[14:17] <Vroomfondle> yeah, done that
[14:17] <Vroomfondle> will do it again to be sure
[14:17] <shadeslayer> Vroomfondle: the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:18] <Vroomfondle> Ah, that worked. I wonder why aptitude safe-upgrade didn't do it.
[14:18] <Vroomfondle> perhaps it considers this option unsafe ;)
[14:18] <shadeslayer> Vroomfondle: hmm no idea :)
[14:42] <drostie> have recent aptitude updates broken Alt-F2 for any other users out there, or just me? :<
[14:44] <shadeslayer> drostie: i can use krunner fine
[14:44] <drostie> shadeslayer: from alt-f2? I can use it fine from right-clicking on my desktop, but that's not the same. :<
[14:45] <shadeslayer> drostie: try running krunner in a konsole
[14:46] <drostie> shadeslayer: that's also fine. it's the keybinding that's messed up for me.
[14:46] <shadeslayer> drostie: oh.... K > System settings > Keyboard and mouse
[14:47] <drostie> D: i think I found part of the problem. Keys bound to "Meta" are no longer the same as keys bound to "Alt." :x
[14:47] <n8w1ng> can i resize a swap partition without using any live cd?
[14:47] <drostie> n8w1ng: presumably by using swapoff and then resizing it with gparted/qtparted.
[14:48] <n8w1ng> drostie: ok,thx..
[14:48] <drostie> shadeslayer: yeah, I've found it in there. Basically, all of those prefs need to be changed from their defaults. :x
[14:49] <drostie> well, actually, I think I'll just change them as I need them.
[14:49] <n8w1ng> drostie: btw if i run free -m it shows 3 gb of memory, but ive got 4gb....runnin 64bit kubuntu...isnt it weird?
[14:49] <drostie> But it's weird that my keyboard used to fire the keypress as Alt and is now firing it as Meta. :x
[14:50] <drostie> n8w1ng: might be, might be. I'm more used to using top for the same information. but I don't know much about the backend of either.
[14:51] <drostie> It might mean that one of four RAM chips is burned out, or something like that. :x
[14:52] <n8w1ng> drostie: ye,the top shows 4gb
[14:53] <n8w1ng> drostie: hmm how big should i make the swap file...a bit over 4gb rite?doesnt have to b like 5-6
[14:54] <drostie> n8w1ng: it really depends on the rest of the system's setup and intention.
[14:54] <n8w1ng> drostie: heh sry i actualy forgot to mentiond what is my problme:))) i need to resize the swap file in order to enable hibernation
[14:54] <zyx> Hello. I can't hear any sound with flash player, After installimg my VGA driver. (nVidia) Any ideas?
[14:55] <drostie> ah. I don't know much about hibernation, myself. I *really* prefer a clean slate each time I start up my computer or web browser. I hate having the persistent mess. :x
[14:55] <n8w1ng> drostie: the file has 690mb rite now:))) a bit too little:)
[14:55] <drostie> also, I like crypto disks too much. ^^;;
[14:56] <drostie> But, um, yes. You'll need more space for the hibernation file than memory (virtual or real) that you plan to be using at any given time.
[14:56] <drostie> It's usually safe to go with something like "twice RAM" or so, but if you've got big plans for those extra 4GB then you can shave a bit off of them.
[14:57] <drostie> In general there's no exact number, as any virtual buffer you specify could one day, on hibernate, be fully allocated with stuff left in RAM. :D
[14:57] <n8w1ng> drostie: ye thats the problem...i havent got that much(ram*2)
[14:57] <n8w1ng> drostie: 5g's would b my top i guess
[14:57] <drostie> well then I'd either buy a bigger hard drive or delete old data. :P
[14:58] <drostie> the "you really don't need 30GB of porn" rule strikes again! :D
[14:58] <n8w1ng> drostie: no way man,im not touchin my most important folder "porn"...
[15:07] <SatManUK> is there any way to extend the amount of time a user is logged in before being logged out when multiple sessions are open - if i open a second session under a new user the previous sessions logs out even if i tell it to lock
[15:08] <v1ttu> is there anyway to make konqueror suck less?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: install rekonq or chromium?
[15:09] <Vge> maby by chosing a other name than a swearword as your nick?
[15:10] <v1ttu> rekonq is even worse than konqueror
[15:10] <Vge> konqueror is the sole reason im sticking with KDE atm
[15:10] <v1ttu> for flash*
[15:11] <v1ttu> why?!??
[15:11] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: oh wow... thats a slap on our face
[15:11] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: why would you say that rekonq sucks?
[15:11] <v1ttu> shade?
[15:11] <v1ttu> it sucks for flash
[15:11] <|||apriori|||> hm? rekonq absolutely rocks
[15:11] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: yeah im one of the people helping out rekonq :)
[15:11] <Vge> i dont use it for browsing thou
[15:11] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: do you have the flash plugin installed?
[15:11] <v1ttu> yes lol
[15:11] <|||apriori|||> well, for me it did already replace konqueror.. mostly.
[15:12] <v1ttu> its great except for flash
[15:12] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: ok then whats the problem with the flash?
[15:12] <|||apriori|||> flash.. just beat up adobe
[15:12] <v1ttu> ummm
[15:12] <v1ttu> resiing youtube vids
[15:12]  * shadeslayer wonders when the www will use html5
[15:12] <v1ttu> resizing*
[15:12] <v1ttu> some flash content crashes the browser
[15:12] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: hmm.. well thats a flash issue,not a rekonq issue..
[15:12] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: lemme try that out
[15:12] <v1ttu> sometimes you only get audio and no video
[15:13] <v1ttu> dosent happen in konqueror with the same flash tho
[15:13] <v1ttu> rekonq needs to mature more anyway, its only young ^^
[15:13] <|||apriori|||> actually flash should mature someday ^^
[15:13] <v1ttu> lol
[15:13] <|||apriori|||> cpu usage of 100% for even the tiniest applications... its a joke.
[15:14] <v1ttu> its worse for me on windows tbh
[15:14] <v1ttu> flash on linux is better
[15:14] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: ok i can reproduce the issue
[15:14] <v1ttu> which issue?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> *but* its a flash issue
[15:14] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: resizing
[15:14] <v1ttu> nope coz it works in konqueror and opera
[15:15] <v1ttu> its a rekonq issue
[15:15] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:16] <SatManUK> if we are talking about browsers, why do some sites refuse to work in ff but work in konq..
[15:16] <v1ttu> dunno :(
[15:16] <|||apriori|||> SatManUK: I guess some unrare standard breakage is the cause...
[15:16] <SatManUK> my housemate is waiting for his security licence and when you login into security licencing authority website firefox doesn't run their php
[15:17] <SatManUK> but konqueror works fine
[15:17] <v1ttu> konqueror is pretty awful though
[15:17] <SatManUK> for some things is better than ff....
[15:17] <v1ttu> wrong sized text boxs are pretty annoying :/
[15:17] <SatManUK> konq reminds me of ie
[15:17] <|||apriori|||> SatManUK, v1ttu, a few months ago the topic in #khtml was "implementing mutually exclusive bugs everyday"
[15:17] <|||apriori|||> that's the sole reason why several browsers got problems and others don't
[15:17] <v1ttu> huh?
[15:18] <SatManUK> i don't get that..
[15:18] <|||apriori|||> most of the websites don't obey standards...
[15:18] <v1ttu> i see
[15:18] <|||apriori|||> so any browser not implementing such actually "buggy" behaviour is doomed to fail
[15:18] <v1ttu> but
[15:18] <v1ttu> standards arent the problem
[15:18] <v1ttu> its bugs
[15:18] <v1ttu> mostly ui
[15:18] <FloodBotK1> v1ttu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <v1ttu> and the smearing bug is really bad
[15:19] <|||apriori|||> sure, I don't say konqueror is bug free...
[15:19] <v1ttu> its the worst browser ive ever used
[15:19] <|||apriori|||> but the major problem isnt khtm, webkit or gecko.. its the god damn website designer tools like frontpage etc. that pretty much "shit" on standard compliance.
[15:19] <v1ttu> i wish the kde intergrated firefox didnt break so easily
[15:20] <Pici> !ot
[15:20] <|||apriori|||> Pici: is the channel currently in use otherwise? no.. so its simple as "not to read" for you.
[15:21] <Pici> |||apriori|||: Nevertheless, its offtopic.  #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic would be the appropriate places to discuss.
[15:21] <shadeslayer> |||apriori|||: nope
[15:21] <shadeslayer> |||apriori|||: Pici is right
[15:22] <SatManUK> how to prevent kde kicking out one user then a second session is opened on f9?
[15:22] <SatManUK> when*
[15:22] <shadeslayer> SatManUK: isnt that default behaviour?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> multiple users...
[15:22] <SatManUK> yes
[15:22] <SatManUK> but its not working
[15:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:22] <v1ttu> is there anyway to fix this problem in konqueror?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> no idea then :)
[15:22] <v1ttu> http://i50.tinypic.com/2egecua.png
[15:22] <SatManUK> I have different accounts on my laptop to keep different work seperate
[15:23] <v1ttu> the really small text box...
[15:23] <SatManUK> personal login "stuart"
[15:23] <SatManUK> work login "extreme"
[15:23] <SatManUK> logged in as stuart, but wanna check work e-mail open a session on f9 as user "extreme" whilst i am browsing mail, "stuart" gets logged out on f7
[15:23] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: the problem is with the site not konqueror imo
[15:23] <SatManUK> after about 1 minute
[15:23] <shadeslayer> ( yes this happens on many sites )
[15:23] <v1ttu> ugh no
[15:24] <v1ttu> it happens in rekonq too
[15:24] <v1ttu> its a ui bug
[15:24] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: thats what im telling you ><
[15:24] <v1ttu> rendering ui*
[15:24] <v1ttu> lolz
[15:24] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: most of the sites support only FF or IE
[15:24] <v1ttu> why does it happen?
[15:24] <rerx> hi guys, has anybody of you got Digikam 1.1.0 running on Karmic with KDE 4.4?
[15:24] <v1ttu> i know that but..
[15:24] <v1ttu> ummm
[15:25] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: these sites are just tested with FF and IE and nowadays chrome.. not rekonq or konqueror
[15:25] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: you can try changing the browser identification
[15:25] <v1ttu> 1.0 works rerx
[15:25] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: try changing it to IE or dont send the identification at all
[15:25] <v1ttu> false user agent doesnt work
[15:26] <v1ttu> nor does no agent lol
[15:26] <v1ttu> it happens on loads of sites tho
[15:26] <rerx> v1ttu: yes, I know, but 1.0 crashes a lot, 1.1.0 mainly introduces countless bugfixes
[15:26] <shadeslayer> Pici: btw is there a page for signing up on wiki.kubuntu?
[15:26] <v1ttu> i see
[15:26] <v1ttu> i dont use digikam much ^^
[15:26] <Pici> shadeslayer: Signing up for what?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> Pici: a wiki name
[15:27] <shadeslayer> Pici: the problem is that when i try to Register it redirects me to a openide login which then gives me : UnknownTimeZoneError
[15:27] <Pici> shadeslayer: I'm not sure, I registered on the wiki long before there was any launchpad integration, I'm not sure how it works now.
[15:27] <rerx> i tried to build it and kipi-plugins myself but it resulted in package chaos for me... and if i'm not mistaken their ppa only provides a version that works on kde 4.3
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Pici: http://imagebin.ca/view/U5V3RmWu.html
[15:29] <shadeslayer> Pici: any ideas if i can get more help on this issue?
[15:29] <SatManUK> Pici: do you know how i can resolve this time out issue so i can have mutliple users logged in on mutliple fkeys?
[15:29] <v1ttu> so i guess theres no way to make konqueror not suck........ok >_<
[15:29] <Pici> shadeslayer: Er.  I'm not sure who handles the kubuntu wiki.... #kubuntu-devel or maybe #ubuntu-doc
[15:30] <SatManUK> because it is frustrating when one user gets kicked out
[15:30] <SatManUK> defats the point of multiuser..
[15:30] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: um just use chromium till we replace konqueror.. or if you want kde apps only,arora
[15:30] <v1ttu> arora is too minimal
[15:30] <v1ttu> sucks with flash too XD
[15:31] <shadeslayer> v1ttu: use html5+chromium
[15:31] <v1ttu> also doesnt intergrate with kde...#
[15:31] <v1ttu> read above :P
[15:31] <Pici> SatManUK: I'm sorry, I don't know.  I don't actually use KDE <.<
[15:31] <v1ttu> integrate*
[15:32] <SatManUK> do are you just a console person Pici?
[15:32] <Pici> SatManUK: console and gnome.
[15:32] <SatManUK> strange to see support for a kde distribution with people who don't use kde..
[15:33] <genii> SatManUK: The underlying system is the same no matter the desktop
[15:34] <v1ttu> and btw shadeslayer, is rekonqs flash support handled by nsplugins?
[15:35] <SatManUK> who is the best person to ask in here?
[15:35] <v1ttu> about?
[15:35] <SatManUK> the mutliuser kickout issue
[15:35] <v1ttu> which kde are you using?
[15:35] <SatManUK> 4.4
[15:35] <v1ttu> mmmm
[15:35] <v1ttu> i dont have any issue like that
[15:35] <SatManUK> but i have experienced it with kde 4.3 on other platforms
[15:36] <v1ttu> how many accounts do you have switched?
[15:36] <SatManUK> v1ttu: do you have multiple sessions running
[15:36] <v1ttu> just 1?
[15:36] <SatManUK> just 2
[15:36] <v1ttu> not at the min no
[15:36] <SatManUK> then you can't replicate it
[15:36] <v1ttu> but it doesnt boot anyone out when iy has
[15:36] <v1ttu> it*
[15:36] <SatManUK> do me a favour, create a second user on your system
[15:36] <v1ttu> there is aleready 3
[15:37] <SatManUK> login on f9 with the second user and just see if f7 logs out..
[15:37] <v1ttu> already*
[15:37] <v1ttu> lol
[15:37] <SatManUK> well fine just login on f9 with another user
[15:37] <v1ttu> kk brb
[15:37] <SatManUK> and see if it kicks you out lol
[15:37] <SatManUK> if you get kicked out we know why..
[15:38] <sate> !register
[15:39] <v1ttu> i wasnt kicked
[15:41] <v1ttu> okkkkkkkk
[15:42] <v1ttu> satmakuk
[15:42] <v1ttu> i wasnt kicked if that helps but i dunno :3
[15:42] <andreas_> penis
[15:42] <SatManUK> yes
[15:42] <SatManUK> strange
[15:42] <v1ttu> penis?
[15:42] <SatManUK> it did it on my several times
[15:42] <v1ttu> i dont wanna see your dick
[15:42] <v1ttu> put it away :'(
[15:43] <v1ttu> hold on
[15:43] <v1ttu> f9
[15:43] <v1ttu> what do ya mean by that?
[15:43] <SatManUK> mutliple x sessions
[15:43] <SatManUK> not multiple console sessions
[15:43] <v1ttu> ctrl+alt+f9?
[15:43] <SatManUK> yes
[15:43] <v1ttu> oh
[15:43] <v1ttu> i didnt do that
[15:43] <SatManUK> hence why you didn't get kicked lol
[15:43] <v1ttu> i just switched users through the menu
[15:43] <andreas_> But i though KDE fan boys liked penis
[15:43] <v1ttu> lol yea
[15:44] <SatManUK> you mean you switched into f1>f6?
[15:44] <v1ttu> does loving your own penis count?
[15:44] <SatManUK> a console session
[15:44] <SatManUK> andreas_: are you a girly gnome?
[15:44] <v1ttu> i use switch use in the menu
[15:44] <v1ttu> i dont know how to do it anyother way
[15:44] <andreas_> Kde is too shiny, it blinds me
[15:45] <v1ttu> any other*
[15:45] <SatManUK> i click start new session
[15:45] <SatManUK> and it opens a second session on ctrl alt f9
[15:45] <SatManUK> and previous session is on ctrl alt f7
[15:45] <v1ttu> where does it say that?
[15:45] <SatManUK> when you click leave > switch user
[15:46] <v1ttu> oic
[15:46] <v1ttu> ill try
[15:46] <SatManUK> Kickoff > Leave > Swtich User > Lock Session and start a new one on Ctrl Alt F9
[15:46] <genii> andreas_: Stop trolling
[15:48] <v1ttu> i still dont get kicked
[15:48] <sate> How do I get compiz working
[15:48] <sate> like what respos do I download, and getting it to actually work etc
[15:48] <v1ttu> genii andreas justs wants to see your penis...
[15:48] <SatManUK> how long did you give it?
[15:48] <SatManUK> 90 seconds?
[15:48] <v1ttu> like 30 seconds
[15:49] <SatManUK> i think it must be a couple of minutes..
[15:49] <v1ttu> hmm
[15:49] <genii> v1ttu:  Also, please stop helping to feed them
[15:49] <SatManUK> when i have finished what i am doing i will time it
[15:49] <v1ttu> ok ill try again...
[15:49] <v1ttu> feeding who?
[15:49] <sate> How do I get compiz working
[15:49] <SatManUK> v1ttu: stop egging on andreas_
[15:49] <SatManUK> that what genii means
[15:49] <genii> Yes
[15:50] <SatManUK> v1ttu: are you doing anything imoportant in this session aside from irc?
[15:51] <v1ttu> still doesnt kick me
[15:51] <v1ttu> i dont have any eggs
[15:51] <v1ttu> its not easter :)
[15:52] <v1ttu> not really
[15:52] <SatManUK> v1ttu: did you keep switching back
[15:52] <v1ttu> juyes
[15:52] <v1ttu> yes*
[15:52] <SatManUK> v1ttu: open irc in the other session
[15:52] <SatManUK> and leave this session unattended
[15:52] <v1ttu> i just quit the other session x(
[15:52] <SatManUK> lets see how long it is before it kicks you out
[15:53] <SatManUK> its unattended quits i am talking about
[15:53] <SatManUK> if i get carried away working on session 2 - i don't monitor session 1 for a while
[15:53] <v1ttu> ok well its still the same thing we usually use and that never quits
[15:53] <v1ttu> we just dont use f9 and f7 to switch
[16:02] <wizkoder> I found one thing that is really annoying. When I klick the Shutdown button and then close my laptop it will go to sleep instead of shutting down :-(((
[16:02] <v1ttu> disable it in power manager
[16:03] <wizkoder> The machanics are wrong I guess
[16:03] <wizkoder> It has to check if its already shutting down
[16:03] <wizkoder> disabling it is not a real solution
[16:03] <v1ttu> if you leave the lid open and click shutdown, what does it do?
[16:03] <wizkoder> it shuts down
[16:03] <v1ttu> lol
[16:03] <v1ttu> then disabling it in power manager should fix it
[16:04] <olaf__> hi all i comming from germany, i littel engl..
[16:04] <v1ttu> gutten tag :P
[16:04] <wizkoder> #kubuntu-de
[16:05] <olaf__> hallo vittu
[16:05] <v1ttu> hallo olaf
[16:05] <v1ttu> wizkoder did you try disabling sleep in power manager?
[16:06] <wizkoder> but i think its cool when i close it that it goes to sleep
[16:06] <v1ttu> lol?
 I found one thing that is really annoying. When I klick the Shutdown button and then close my laptop it will go to sleep instead of shutting down :-(((
[16:07] <wizkoder> Read carefully. I klick shutdown so I want it to shutdown. But then I close the laptop so its not shutting down anymore. It goes to sleep
[16:07] <v1ttu> oic
[16:07] <v1ttu> my mistake
[16:07] <v1ttu> ummm
[16:08] <v1ttu> just make it go blank or something?
[16:08] <wizkoder> its an ubuntu 9.10 bug
[16:09] <wizkoder> same as sound is stopping to work every once in a while
[16:09] <v1ttu> i dont get that bug...
[16:09] <v1ttu> or that one..
[16:10] <wizkoder> the bug is: when an action concerning power is clicked it has to check if there in another already running. very simple
[16:10] <v1ttu> ummm
[16:10] <v1ttu> if i click shutdown and close the lid, it shuts down
[16:10] <v1ttu> and i havent disabled sleep mode
[16:11] <wizkoder> so its even worse. its different on different machines :-(
[16:11] <wizkoder> Same for the sound issue
[16:12] <v1ttu> lol its linux
[16:12] <v1ttu> random as
[16:12] <wizkoder> I can't take that. Because it was working perfect in 8.10
[16:13] <v1ttu> cant take?
[16:13] <wizkoder> Its not about linux. Its about ubuntu
[16:14] <v1ttu> ubuntu is linux duh :P
[16:14] <wizkoder> a little bit more I would say :-)
[16:15] <Hellmark[S10e]> Anyone having issues with KDE 4.4 just freezing up on them?
[16:15] <v1ttu> do you use kwin?
[16:15] <Hellmark[S10e]> yes
[16:15] <v1ttu> what graphics card?
[16:16] <Hellmark[S10e]> intel
[16:16] <v1ttu> type?
[16:16] <v1ttu> im using gma945 with no problems
[16:16] <genii> wizkoder: The file responsible for what action occurs
[16:17] <Hellmark[S10e]> GMA950 here.
[16:17] <genii> is /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[16:17] <v1ttu> kubuntu version?
[16:17] <Hellmark[S10e]> lucid.
[16:17] <v1ttu> oh
[16:17] <darthanubis> bug #2011
[16:17] <v1ttu> im using 9.10
[16:17] <wizkoder> 9.10
[16:18] <genii> !lucid | Hellmark[S10e]
[16:18] <Hellmark[S10e]> I was using karmic, till an app I use needed packages only in lucid
[16:18] <genii> Hellmark[S10e]: #ubuntu+1 is also #kubuntu+1
[16:21] <Hellmark[S10e]> genii, asking in there
[16:22] <Hellmark[S10e]> I've been using Debian Sid for years, and just trying kubuntu on my netbook, and I've never had sid be as unstable as ubuntu's unstable.
[16:23] <v1ttu> ugh
[16:23] <genii> Hellmark[S10e]: Lucid is more like Experimental   than Unstable
[16:23] <v1ttu> its beta
[16:23] <wizkoder> genii: I am reading that acpi file. As I am not a bash coder its a little bit difficult for me
[16:23] <v1ttu> still..
[16:27] <Hellmark[S10e]> v1ttu, is there anything more akin to sid?
[16:28] <Tm_T> v1ttu: actually Lucid is still alpha (:
[16:32] <wizkoder> How can I say that when I close the lid it shuts down?
[16:33] <andreas_> oobantoo
[16:33] <v1ttu> alpha beta, it still aint a stable release now is it?
[16:37] <wizkoder> Is it okay to change the /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn that it calls /etc/acpi/power.sh ?
[16:38] <wizkoder> Or is there a better way to achive shutting down when I close the computer?
[16:39] <v1ttu> disable sleep....
[16:43] <wizkoder> found it
[16:50] <andreas_> You'd think so but you'd be wrong.
[16:53] <Hellmark[S10e]> v1ttu, personally, I prefer a more advanced release than stable releases. I am used to Debian, where it isn't uncommon for stable to be a year or more out of date from the stable releases from the individual projects. In a desktop environment, having something be even a few weeks out of date is often annoying or problematic. If say that a issue pops up in pidgin due to a server side change, do you really want to do without until
[16:53] <Hellmark[S10e]>  it gets tested and pushed through, even though pidgin already has a stable release with that issue fixed?
[16:54] <SatManUK> yahoo is the worst for that
[16:57] <Hellmark[S10e]> SatManUK, yeah
[16:58] <Hellmark[S10e]> they offer shitty ass support for a platform, but don't want other to do the job for them
[16:59] <v1ttu> debian is horrible
[17:02] <anoneemouse> hi, I have some vob files and i want to merge them into one video and compress them... can anyone give help, advice, tips?
[17:04] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: google
[17:04] <darthanubis> !language | Hellmark[S10e]
[17:04] <anoneemouse> darthanubis: tried that... maybe im searching for the wrong thing but im not finding anything useful
[17:05] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <anoneemouse> k
[17:05] <rohdef> how am I supposed to show detailed hard drive-informations in Kubuntu? My logic says right click the usb drive in Dolphin and select properties, except properties ain't there ;)
[17:06] <anoneemouse> hmm
[17:08] <darthanubis> rohdef: then you have bigger problems because I have a properties
[17:08] <SatManUK> weird
[17:08] <rohdef> darthanubis, in the panel in the left side?
[17:09] <anoneemouse> i don't have properties either
[17:09] <SatManUK> rohdef: on the right click at the bottom
[17:09] <rohdef> darthanubis, it only had some safely remove, hide and add features when I right click
[17:10] <bazhang> anoneemouse, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126166 this what you had in mind for burning vob to dvd?
[17:10] <anoneemouse> thanks bazhangm ill have a look
[17:10] <rohdef> SatManUK, ok, helped but didn't show the info I need :p is parted and similar tools the only way to reveal what type of partitions the disk has?
[17:11] <anoneemouse> rohdef: on the commandline you can type df
[17:12] <SatManUK> well you can use partition manager to detail filesystems and partitions
[17:12] <rohdef> anoneemouse, it don't reveal the partition type, only size, usage and such. Problem is that I know too many commands :p (I'm a konsole junkie), but I want to know the gui tools too, since a lot of people hate me when I start with the commandline
[17:13] <SatManUK> does kubuntu have sysinfo:/
[17:13] <rohdef> SatManUK, by partition manager are you referring to qtparted?
[17:14] <anoneemouse> it would be nice if the properties were in that right click menu... you should post it on kde brainstorm rohdef :)
[17:14] <anoneemouse> i have kde partition manager.... works like a charm but takes about 20 minutes just to load
[17:14] <rohdef> anoneemouse, if you give me a link I'd add it instantly
[17:14] <darthanubis> it is in the rt-click
[17:14] <SatManUK> i would say yes
[17:14] <anoneemouse> whats your dolphin version darthanubis
[17:14] <jarle> is there a script that will be run when X starts no matter if I use KDE/kdm or Gnome/gdm? So far it seems like neither ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession is executed in a standard kubuntu startup?
[17:15] <darthanubis> 1.4 kde4.4
[17:15] <anoneemouse> thats what i have darthanubis, but it doesnt show for me
[17:15] <rohdef> darthanubis, are you right-clicking the same place we talk about? We're not talking about right clicking the folder directly or in the blank space of the folder, but on the quick shortcuts on the left of the window in the default setup
[17:16] <rohdef> darthanubis,  ah never version, on the beta?
[17:16] <rohdef> darthanubis, beta/alfa/pre release, whatever :p0
[17:16] <darthanubis> I would have never thought to click where it properties are not supposed to appear
[17:17] <rohdef> darthanubis, it's a logical place to have them, where you got a list of your removable devices, partitions etc.
[17:17] <anoneemouse> agree with rohdef
[17:18] <darthanubis> If I want nautiluis I'll use anutilus
[17:18] <anoneemouse> whats anutilus?
[17:20] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: it looks liek nautilus but it aint
[17:20] <rohdef> darthanubis, who the f*** would want that ugly and annoying thing?
[17:20] <rohdef> (nautilus)
[17:20] <anoneemouse> i used to kinda like nautilus
[17:21] <rohdef> blast :p sorry for the insult
[17:21] <darthanubis> someone looking for properties to a folder in the quickview
[17:21] <anoneemouse> i havent used it for years... np
[17:22] <rohdef> darthanubis, where most users probably will find it logical?
[17:22] <darthanubis> you conducted a poll?
[17:22] <rohdef> darthanubis, "most likely" hints that it's an assumption
[17:23] <anoneemouse> you dont need a poll... its logical
[17:23] <djnick89> help me please
[17:23] <djnick89> im trying get kde to work not work 4 me ksplashx: double free or corruption (out)
[17:23] <darthanubis> logical because you fail to understand quick does not entail detailed?
[17:23] <darthanubis> !details | djnick89
[17:23] <djnick89> ubuntu 9.10
[17:24] <anoneemouse> okay... so what other logocal place would you put it then?
[17:24] <anoneemouse> *logical
[17:24] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: where they are now
[17:24] <anoneemouse> which is where?
[17:25] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: you still don't know?
[17:25] <anoneemouse> nope
[17:25] <darthanubis> I thought we were pass that
[17:25] <rohdef> darthanubis, but even though most users might find it more logical to use it as it is, is that really a reason not to also have it the other place to ease the work for the rest
[17:25] <djnick89> im using ubuntu 9.10
[17:26] <djnick89> and using vnc
[17:26] <anoneemouse> the idea is that your right clicking on a device, getting the properties of that device makes perfect logical sense... and no were not past that
[17:27] <darthanubis> rohdef: you don't know what most users would wnt. And this is a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <darthanubis> move ti there
[17:27] <djnick89> i log in and sceeen funny
[17:28] <rohdef> darthanubis, I just got confirmed that the logic anoneemouse and I have is the same in Windows, you can do it, and if I remember correctly mac does the same
[17:28] <darthanubis> rohdef: you don't know what most users would wnt. And this is a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:28] <rohdef> darthanubis, two things 1, haven't said so, but I assume a lot, 2 you aren't in there
[17:28] <darthanubis> rohdef: #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:28] <darthanubis> donn't be a troll
[17:29] <darthanubis> this is support
[17:29] <djnick89> any one help me please
[17:29] <darthanubis> !ask | djnick89
[17:29] <anoneemouse> rohdef: post it on the brainstorm forum please: http://forum.kde.org
[17:29] <darthanubis> djnick89: notice how it says ONE line
[17:29] <djnick89> !ask
[17:31] <djnick89> !ask i put new kde and not working ksplashx: double free or corruption
[17:31] <darthanubis> djnick89: what are you doing?
[17:31] <darthanubis> !abuse
[17:32] <djnick89> im try put kde in
[17:34] <eagles0513875> darthanubis: why did you send anoneemouse to kubuntu-offtopic he was looking for a video editing program
[17:34] <mr-S^b43> djnick89 : lets start with the basics : Which Kubuntu version are you running now ? 2. Have you upgraded or made a clean install ?
[17:35] <darthanubis> eagles0513875: you can't read the topic either? This aint the videoediting program forum. It is for support. He can poll for his query in offtopic and #ubuntu-bots
[17:36] <bazhang> darthanubis, it was a legitimate question
[17:36] <eagles0513875> darthanubis: hes more likely to get help from this channel then in offtopic
[17:36] <darthanubis> eagles0513875: why do you care to ask? If you have suggstions to give him, do so, but in the correct channel is all?
[17:36] <ahox> darthanubis: and one of the support part is what programms are available in kubuntu...
[17:36] <darthanubis> bazhang: no it was not
[17:36] <anoneemouse> darthanubis: is it necesary to be so rude?
[17:36] <darthanubis> ahox: that is polling
[17:36] <bazhang> darthanubis, sure it was.
[17:36] <darthanubis> !poll
[17:36] <darthanubis> bazhang: hardly
[17:36] <KiRiLoS> How can i completely remove printer applet?Kubuntu 9.10 kde 4.4 thanks
[17:37] <bazhang> darthanubis, asking how to burn vob to dvd is most certainly ON topic
[17:37] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: it was rude to get you to people who could better assist you in the correct channel?
[17:37] <anoneemouse> i wasn't refering to that... your attitude just seems rude in general
[17:37] <darthanubis> weird definition of rude, or wearing feels on sleeve
[17:37] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: rude  in what sense?
[17:38] <eagles0513875> his question was legit question for this channel
[17:38] <darthanubis> uh oh, this is OT again
[17:38]  * eagles0513875 shakes head and walks away
[17:40]  * darthanubis applauds
[17:40] <anoneemouse> i was just making an observation... take it, leave it, whatever
[17:40] <darthanubis> anoneemouse: I left it 100 lines back
[17:40] <anoneemouse> you act like a civil servant... i don't get it
[17:41]  * eagles0513875 thinks to self that is no way to treat people who were asking a legitimate question for the channel
[17:42] <ahox> anoneemouse: just ignore him. What was your original question again?
[17:42] <anoneemouse> it's cool ahox. KDENlive seems to be working :)
[17:43] <eagles0513875> ahox: i helped him out
[17:43] <eagles0513875> he was looking for a video editing program
[17:43] <ahox> anoneemouse: ah ok, yes, that's a good one
[17:43] <eagles0513875> the only one i know is that one
[17:43] <rohdef> anoneemouse, added it there now :) and then no reason to discus it further in here. Even though I don't like darthanubis way of handling it, he has a point, it's off topic
[17:44] <anoneemouse> can you pm me the link rohdef so i can vote on it?
[17:45] <ahox> there is also qdvdauthor
[17:47] <mr-S^b43> anyone own a Nokia E71 and got calendar/conatct syncing running with it ?
[18:09] <npad|home> hi, I accidently deleted network icon from panel. I cant seem to find where to restore that
[18:09] <vbgunz> I have my computer set to suspend every 60 minutes. it works. But, upon resuming from that, 30 seconds or so back into the session, it suspends again. whats happening?
[18:13] <kevalvala> ubuntu is great
[18:20] <daskreech> Hello
[18:20] <daskreech> Does anyone know of a PPA with rekonq 0.4 beta?
[18:22] <bazhang> oinly see ppa for 0.3 daskreech
[18:22] <daskreech> which version of 0.3 ?
[18:23] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~f4l3/+archive/ppa
[18:25] <nasrullah> hi
[18:26] <nasrullah> which netbook is the best for kubuntu?
[18:26] <goodtime> hp
[18:27] <nasrullah> thank you and can you give me the edition  please.....
[18:27] <goodtime> yes
[18:28] <goodtime> mini 110
[18:29] <npad|home> I was deleting some icons on the tray panel and realized i deleted network management ... and have tried and tried without any luck bringng it back
[18:29] <npad|home> howwwww do I do it
[18:29] <npad|home> kubuntu is strange
[18:30] <npad|home> and its widgets doesnt work, when I click the star next to the icons to add widget, I see nothing
[18:30] <npad|home> no widget is added
[18:30] <npad|home> please someone explain this to me
[18:30] <goodtime> asus would be good too
[18:31] <goodtime> broken os
[18:31] <npad|home> crazy
[18:31] <npad|home> spent an hour trying to understand 'widget' when I dont even see anything adding to the panel
[18:32] <goodtime> its in the top right corner
[18:32] <npad|home> yes I tried that too
[18:32] <goodtime> idk what to tell ya then
[18:33] <goodtime> widget are unnessesary thoe
[18:34] <npad|home> for example, when i click "Comic Strip" widget from "Add Widgets" window, then click to add, all I see is "Folder VIew" window box... whatttt
[18:34] <goodtime> i couldnt tell ya
[18:36] <phitoo> #akonadi
[18:36] <Oxymoron> I have a question, the plasmoid Daisy (The dockstation that works kind of macstylish ....), anyway does anybody know if I can replace plasma panel with that one? I want it to autohide after three seconds like you cannot setup in plasma panel at all. Then I would like windows to cover it when possible at the same time and if you point the mouse pointer like tree seconds on the bottom then it hsould appear, not else because some
[18:36] <Oxymoron> apps use the lower level of the window, like Konversation. I dont want the panel to popup if I dont want to if you know what I mean :P
[18:38] <rethus> jhave no java in my firefox.
[18:38] <rethus> how can i easy install it on kubuntu 9.10
[18:39] <rethus> java6-jre is installed
[18:39] <npad|home> u mean the java plugin?
[18:40] <Armi^> rethus: or do you mean flash?
[18:40] <goodtime> goto the ubuntu softwear center and type  java in the search
[18:40] <rethus> java
[18:41] <goodtime> look under internet
[18:41] <rethus> goodtime there is no internet on kpackagekit
[18:41] <Pici> rethus: you need to install the sun-java6-plugin package   for the browser plugin.
[18:41] <rethus> or u mean synaptic
[18:43] <goodtime> oic rethus sorry
[18:43] <Oxymoron> Anyone please? :)
[18:44] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, you can remove the stock panel and use daisy instead, but as far as the the other, you'd have to set up a mouse corner for showing the desktop to access it
[18:44] <rethus> Pici great, thanks it works
[18:45] <Pici> rethus: yay
[18:45] <rethus> but other question. on firefox i got a notification if i start https-page with no valid certificat... before i could accept it forever.. but now the option is allways grayed out
[18:45] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: How to do that then? For the moment dasiy only works if I show desktop? I want it to work even if windows are covered over dock panel? Then I wonder if you possible know if its possible to switch places on the icons in the bar? I want the KDe Lancelot app launcher to be on the most left side and not in the middle :P
[18:45] <rethus> so i have to check everytime the certificate an accept it.
[18:47] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, go to the system settings, and see about having a mouse event, or something of that nature to show the desktop.
[18:48] <Hellmark[S10e]> I'm not in KDE right now, so I can't really tell you much more
[18:48] <Hellmark[S10e]> version of KDE I have installed locks up after a few minutes
[18:49] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: But NOOOO, that screen thing sucks and the setting reset every time you logout on KDE ... :P Or the screen edges action itself rocks, but the settingsare not persisent for the moment ... And I dont want to show desktop on screen edge, I want the plasmoid? :S WHy cannot a plasmoid dock like the plasma panel? :S
[18:51] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: I really like Daisy, its awesome and should replace panel totally if you ask me :P It has more features than Apple users also I think. The most awesome is that you can setup the autohiding to dissapear after x seconds, which I miss in the regular panel which autohides WAAAAAAAY to fast :P
[18:51] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, I love daisy too. use it myself when KDE is working.
[18:52] <rethus> which is a nice programm to edit pdf-files?
[18:52] <rethus> maybe with gui
[18:52] <Oxymoron> Then I ALSO wonder if anyone knows if you can get your hands on the Avant theme that looks absolutely beautiful? :O
[18:53] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: I think I might would like Apple OS X, the dock thing really is nice :) I dont know if Daisy is more sofisticated though or not :P But Mac OS sucks in other areas, so I think KDE 4.4 is better :P
[18:53] <Oxymoron> rethus: I dont know if Okular can, but thats a good pdf-viewer. Or else you get Adobe Acrobat?
[18:53] <rethus> not viewing
[18:53] <rethus> editing
[18:55] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, glad you like 4.4
[18:56] <rethus> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PDFedit
[18:59] <paoligno> Hi. how can I set a custom name for the window of a specific application?
[19:00] <daskreech> npad|home: Got the widget thing explained?
[19:00] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: Yeah overall usage is very good, but has some minor "bugs" missing implementations like a working Akonadi in Kmail and together with Nepomuk. I have been struggling with Akonadi and its impossible to get it work with Kmail ... even if it works itself sort of speak. Then the sceen edges actions does not save settings in systemsettings permanent, just temporarly which sort of sucks. Then if you dont use Oxygen as
[19:00] <Oxymoron> Window Decorator for Kwin the window tab feature does not work. I want to use Avant or Crystal theme/decorator becase I dont like Oxygen.
[19:00] <FloodBotK1> Oxymoron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <Oxymoron> yeyeyeye
[19:00] <npad|home> daskreech, no
[19:00] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, for me, it freezes after a few minutes use.
[19:00] <npad|home> Im trying to launch wifi manually
[19:00] <npad|home> but its not working. thats why I hate automatic systems
[19:00] <daskreech> npad|home: Which Widget Are you trying to add?
[19:01] <npad|home> network manager
[19:01] <npad|home> I accidently deleted it
[19:01] <npad|home> from task panel
[19:01] <daskreech> KDE 4.3 or 4.4 ?
[19:01] <npad|home> 9.10
[19:01] <npad|home> cant remember if its 4.3 or 4.4
[19:01] <[-Haza-]> Hey guys. Has anyone else had problems with Flash and after a couple of hours of playing the sound starts to stutter non-stop?
[19:02] <[-Haza-]> Its ahppening on two computers i have with 9.10
[19:02] <daskreech> npad|home: 4.3 then if you don't know
[19:02] <daskreech>  You dragged networkmanager to the panel?
[19:02] <npad|home> yes I believe so
[19:02] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: What freeezes?
[19:03] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: Btw, for me Crystal Kwin style does render faster than Oxygen style does, so KDE works much faster strange enough with Crystal even if it has more eyecandy :D
[19:03] <npad|home> daskreech, so how do I add back the network icon to the panel
[19:04] <daskreech> npad|home: what happened when you dragged it back to the panel?
[19:04] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, KDE apparently. it stops responding to all input, but the system as a whole is still working.
[19:04] <npad|home> I thought it should be simple enough, but apparently I cant find anywhere in the system window to do that, nor use 'add widget'
[19:04] <Hellmark[S10e]> if I use other desktops, it works fine.
[19:04] <npad|home> ah let me try that
[19:04] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: Using kwin?
[19:04] <Hellmark[S10e]> daskreech, yes.
[19:05] <daskreech> Like the windows are there but don't respond to anything?
[19:06] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: Yeah that happens me to sometimes. PLasma-desktop AND Kwin freezes totally if you change settings for Kwin, theme and so on multiple times and if youre lucky you can get a terminal. I owuld like starting processes when you do ctrl+esc, why isnt that implemented like Windows has, and even logout and switch user? :S
[19:06] <Hellmark[S10e]> windows are there, but type on the keyboard, or try to use the trackpad, but nada. Can't drop to console.
[19:08] <Oxymoron> Yeah same problem for me :S Everything just freeze
[19:09] <npad|home> daskreech, which widget configures the network?
[19:09] <npad|home> it doesnt seem obvious
[19:09] <npad|home> and dragging the widgets onto desktop works
[19:09] <npad|home> nice
[19:10] <Esmarelda> ok
[19:10] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: Not sure if its KDE or Kubuntu/Ubuntu related crash/bug :P
[19:10] <Hellmark[S10e]> Oxymoron, what do you do to fix it?
[19:11] <daskreech> npad|home: You can drag them anywhere in theory
[19:12] <daskreech> onto panels, Off panels, In KDE 4.4 into the Systray
[19:12] <Oxymoron> Hellmark[S10e]: EH if I even can do something I do alt+f2 and get the konsole or run command directly and FIRST start Kwin because both plasma-desktop and kwin crashes at the same time, lol ... Or I use ctrl+alt+f* to switch X-session If that even works ... If not anything of those works I just turn off computer and login again :P
[19:12] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: do you know how to jump to a virtual Terminal?
[19:14] <npad|home> daskreech, I mean, the wifi network interface. it used to be on panel by default
[19:14] <Hellmark[S10e]> daskreech, you mean like control alt and F1
[19:14] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: Yes
[19:15] <Oxymoron> Btw, Intel audio problems once again since last backport update ... WHY DOES THEY break those packages, I dont understand :S Weird is that Kaffeine and Amarok which uses Phonon works anyway, but VLC, Flash PLayer and so on does not work :S
[19:15] <daskreech> npad|home: Yeah you can throw it back there
[19:15] <Hellmark[S10e]> daskreech, when it locks up like that, doesn't respond when I try to do that.
[19:15] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: oh ok not the issue I was thinking of
[19:16] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: If you have another computer ssh in and kill kwin to see if that's causing it (kwin will be using like 99% of your CPU)
[19:16] <npad|home> daskreech, problem is, what is it called? It isnt "Network Manager" which I thought
[19:16] <Hellmark[S10e]> daskreech, will have to try that later.
[19:16] <daskreech> If that's it The kwin guys will be very happy to get your report It's been a bug since KDe 4.0 Thought that it was killed in KDE 4.3 if its not they will want to know. iT's a race condition
[19:17] <Hellmark[S10e]> this is happening on my netbook, which I mostly use when I am not home.
[19:17] <daskreech> npad|home: It will be by KDE 4.5
[19:17] <npad|home> daskreech, I think you have the wrong person for kde 4.5 thing
[19:18] <npad|home> Im looking for the name of the icon that configures wifi
[19:18] <npad|home> Network manager isnt it
[19:18] <Oxymoron> daskreech: Btw, do you know what features KDE5 will have if there will be any? :P I thought KDE should be stable with KDE 4.3, but not even 4.4 is enough stable ... I think you have to wait for KDE 4.5 anyway :D
[19:18] <daskreech> npad|home: I'm saying it should be named better by KDE 4.5 It's a playground project for 4.3 and 4.4
[19:18] <npad|home> ah ok
[19:18] <Esmarelda> see u later roller skater
[19:19] <daskreech> Oxymoron: KDE5 will be decided when Qt5 ships. When the KDE team sees what that can do they will have a target Feature list
[19:19] <npad|home> anyway, if you're on Kubuntu can you please look at what the wireless icon on your tray is called
[19:19] <npad|home> I cant find the icon in the widget menu
[19:21] <Oxymoron> daskreech: Alright, but in theory then if ypoure looking on the web, society, peoples behavior in different mobile and desktop platforms and so on, what do you think KDE5 will focus on? :P Will we get some kind of 3D and Internet interaction with the OS maybe? :D That would be aweseom to take "The cube" one step longer and make everything in 3D :D
[19:21] <ubuntu> hi
[19:21] <daskreech> Oxymoron: We have that with KDE4 now
[19:21] <daskreech> Well not everything in 3D that's plain stupid
[19:22] <paoligno> Hi. how can I set a custom name for the window of a specific application?
[19:23] <ubuntu> after installing ubuntu on my pc (windows is also installed -> games) i get the "Disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter" error, how can i restore the windows bootloader?
[19:23] <Oxymoron> daskreech: Yeah, I know we have the cube and so on now ;) But I guess Internet/web will be totally interacted with our computers in the future :P I hope for more hybrid protocols like Phonon though so everything just works flawless :)
[19:23] <Hellmark[S10e]> this is happening on my netbook, which I mostly use when I am not home.?
[19:23] <Hellmark[S10e]> err
[19:24] <daskreech> If it was flawless it would be boring :)
[19:24] <Hellmark[S10e]> daskreech, out of curiousity, what is the issue you know of with kwin freezing
[19:25] <daskreech> Hellmark[S10e]: The one I was talking about near as I can guess is Qpixelbuffer bug with Qt I haven't been able to track it down yet
[19:25] <daskreech>  So you are clicking and typing and it's ahppeneing it's just not getting drawn on the screen
[19:26] <Hellmark[S10e]> yeah, I don't think that is what's going on, because dropping to a console should be independent of that, since you're stepping outside of the X server.
[19:28] <daskreech> Yep if you are getting the input actually being blocked then it's a resource starvation issue or something is crashng the kernel
[19:29] <Oxymoron> daskreech: Flawless would be good so I dont have to take time bug searching and being interupted in my work all the time because of app and system crashes
[19:29] <daskreech> you should still be able to ssh into the box even if it's resource starved (since that's reserverd already) and fix it but that gives you an idea as to what you are looking for
[19:29] <daskreech> Oxymoron: oh no crashes are bad. Crashes shouldn't happen
[19:30] <Oxymoron> daskreech: Well some minor feature and config misses is okay if it does not break something or really annoy you :P Then you could look forward for the next release ;) But as you said, crashes are not good, neither is plane crashes :D
[19:31] <daskreech> I think losing 3 hours worth of work is not really comparable with wiping out a family line
[20:07] <slow-motion> hi
[20:08] <daskreech> hi
[20:08] <npad|home> anyone here work with webcams or use them with Kubuntu?
[20:09] <npad|home> daskreech, btw, finally found the icon for wlan/eth0 interface, it is "System Tray" icon from widgets. d-oh
[20:09] <npad|home> that wasn't too clear for me, Im not used to kubuntu
[20:11] <EagleScreen> npad|home: no good KDE apps for webcams until I know
[20:12] <EagleScreen> you might want to use cheese
[20:12] <npad|home> I have ekiga it looks fine, but once I connect using h264, the video quality is very very poor from other end
[20:12] <daskreech> npad|home: Ah of course :)
[20:13] <npad|home> it is same with youtube, and other flash based engines
[20:13] <daskreech> npad|home: What are you looking for from webcam apps?
[20:13] <npad|home> I am interested in joining dev team to help improve quality of webcam on flash based apps
[20:14] <npad|home> I've worked on embedded linux devices dealing with v4l
[20:14] <npad|home> www.viable.net/product/vpad
[20:15] <npad|home> I am deaf by the way, so I developed video phone using webcam on embedded system
[20:16] <daskreech> npad|home: http://wm161.net/2009/12/29/webcams-in-phonon/
[20:17] <npad|home> daskreech, are you a Qt developer?
[20:17] <daskreech> npad|home: Comments are interesting and his blog is interesting. You can follow up with either avenue that interests you
[20:17] <daskreech> No that wuld be #qt :)
[20:17] <npad|home> Ive written in 4.3 and 4.4 for Qt embedded. it is very nice UI
[20:18] <npad|home> oh and 4.5 with its webkit improved
[20:18] <Oxymoron> Holy *********************************, everyone should install awn-window-manager, its freaking awesome and far away better than daisy and also have its own applets and a popuptemrina in the panel even :O I really want Awn/Avant themeas well :O
[20:18] <daskreech> 4.6 is nice improvements but a lot of bugs :(
[20:19] <npad|home> for each 4.6.x theres bug fixes, so for final release of 4.6.x where x is final number it should be clean
[20:23] <otswim> hello, i'm on kde and my micro doesn't work; could someone help me with it?
[20:23] <daskreech> That's the idea. Bt yes Qt overall is very very nice
[20:27] <npad|home> daskreech, thanks for the link
[20:27] <npad|home> im going over them, Im really interested
[20:28] <npad|home> hopefully get started on multiconference SIP based
[20:28] <daskreech> npad|home: he's a good person to contact
[20:28] <npad|home> I dont see anything like that for linux, do you?
[20:28] <daskreech> Asteri ?
[20:28] <daskreech> Asterix?
[20:28] <npad|home> I have many deaf friends who have asked for this feature - multiconference to see everyone same time , aka 'Brady Bunch'
[20:29] <npad|home> Asterix? the telephony api?
[20:29] <npad|home> or Asterix and Obelix? lol
[20:29] <daskreech> yes it should have SIP support
[20:30] <daskreech> Well Obelix could just throw everyone into the same room :)
[20:30] <xarewar> SPANISH ¿?¿?¿?
[20:30] <npad|home> ok you mean Asterisk
[20:31] <npad|home> haha that'd solve the internet issue ;)
[20:31] <npad|home> aka obelix throwing everyone into a room
[20:31] <npad|home> anyway, asterisk and v4l api, hmm
[20:32] <daskreech> !es | xarewar
[20:32] <npad|home> daskreech, are you one of the ops here?
[20:32] <daskreech> Nope
[20:33] <npad|home> tho you arent marked
[20:33] <daskreech> What would you like an op for?
[20:33] <daskreech> No ops are marked
[20:33] <npad|home> you came in answering everyones questions i was like wtf an angel came and rescued me
[20:33] <npad|home> lol
[20:34] <npad|home> you sem to know a lot about kde stuff, so I had to ask.
[20:34] <daskreech> That doesn't make me an op
[20:35] <daskreech> that makes me old :)
[20:36] <npad|home> lol. Im going to run out to get iced mocha. Its a nasty habit.
[20:37] <npad|home> then..... fire away with phonon, etc.
[20:37] <khaije|amalt> whats the app that lets you launch programs and search in kde? it's like a gnome-do sorta thing
[20:37] <khaije|amalt> overlays on the screen...
[20:37] <daskreech> :-)
[20:38] <daskreech> khaije|amalt: alt+f2 ?
[20:38] <khaije|amalt> lol ya
[20:38] <khaije|amalt> i had it mapped to ctl+space and forgot what it was originally
[20:38] <khaije|amalt> thanks!
[20:38] <daskreech> does that work or do you need the name?
[20:39] <daskreech> Ok :0
[20:39] <daskreech> :-)
[20:39] <khaije|amalt> i only thought i needed the name to install it, what is it called btw?
[20:42] <otswim> hello, i'm on kde and i'm not able to use my microphone; could someone help me with it? (the microphone works fine on windows)
[20:43] <daskreech> khaije|amalt: Oh wait you want it in Gnome or something?
[20:44] <navetz> can someone help me figure out how to benchmark a server? I don't know whats causing it to be so slow.
[20:44] <daskreech> otswim: How are you using it?
[20:44] <lexe> Does anyone know if nvidia xid errors are caused by software (driver) bugs or hardware malfunction? I'm experiencing random hard freezes, these xid errors are the last errors available in syslog.
[20:45] <otswim> daskreech: i would like to use it on amsn. i also tried it on audacity but nothing so far
[20:45] <daskreech> navetz: benchmark or troubleshoot?
[20:45] <navetz> daskreech: benchmark I think. I want to know whats causing it to be so slow and to figure out what I need to upgrade (ram, cpu, internet connection)
[20:46] <daskreech> lexe: probably the driver but if you can figure what's triggering them you can check that project (#kwin for example) or check in #phoronix
[20:46] <lexe> daskreech: thx!
[20:47] <daskreech> navetz: Check out the Phoronix Test suite
[20:47] <daskreech> !find phoronix
[20:47] <navetz> daskreech: okay ill look into it, thank you
[20:48] <lexe> daskreech: have you encountered such errors or just read about it?
[20:48] <otswim> anyone?
[20:49] <khaije|amalt> daskreech: nono the kde kicker-widget thing is what i was looking for
[20:49] <daskreech> otswim: Umm tries Kmess?
[20:50] <daskreech> khaije|amalt: Not sure what you are talking about now
[20:50] <daskreech> The same alt+f2 ?
[20:50] <khaije|amalt> lol ya, you already answered my immediate question, i wanted to take you up on your offer to tell me what its called, is all
[20:50] <daskreech> oh
[20:50] <daskreech> krunner
[20:51] <otswim> daskreech: i thought that kopete was the messenger application for kde?
[20:51] <daskreech> it is
[20:52] <otswim> ok i have to go i'll come back a bit later and tell you i that works
[20:52] <khaije|amalt> daskreech: thx mate
[20:53] <vicdani> hello
[20:53] <daskreech> !hi | vicdani
[20:54] <vicdani> i use gnome
[20:54] <vicdani> ubuntu
[20:55] <daskreech> Congrats
[20:55] <vicdani> i'm from Brazil, so i'm sorry about my english
[20:57] <vicdani> i use firestarter but thi icon don't show up at the icons in the top, be side the date. Is it working?
[21:01] <daskreech> vicdani: Would you like help in Portuguese ?
[21:01] <daskreech> !br
[21:02] <vicdani> #ubuntu-br
[21:03] <vicdani> fine
[21:03] <paoligno> Hi. how can I set a custom name for the window of a specific application?
[21:04] <daskreech> vicdani: You can ask here as well I was just giving you an option :)
[21:04] <daskreech> paoligno: I think that it would be in the Windows Specific setting in Kwin
[21:04] <daskreech> Haven't looked though
[21:05] <Authority> daskreech: that's just where I was looking, but I don't see anything about overriding the window title
[21:05] <daskreech> hi robertknight2
[21:06] <daskreech> Authority: I know that you can set it when you are starting the app so you can probably do that in a .desktop file
[21:17] <khaije|amalt> so there's no way to install software from krunner?
[21:17] <daskreech> khaije|amalt: Hm ?
[21:28] <khaije|amalt> if i wanted to install kreversi, for example, is there no way to do this in krunner?
[21:29] <khaije|amalt> it seems krunner doesn't have a plugin for that, i was just wondering out loud hoping someone would contradict me :)
[21:30] <Hellmark[S10e]> khaije|amalt, you could do the full apt-get command
[21:31] <Hellmark[S10e]> gksu apt-get install kreversi
[21:31] <Hellmark[S10e]> or rather, gksudo apt-get install kreversi
[21:36]  * khaije|amalt is trying that now
[21:39] <khaije|amalt> that doesn't seem to work, but it's fine, just an idle curiousity
[21:44] <khaije|amalt> i only just installed 9.10, it is really polished
[21:44] <khaije|amalt> linux user for 5 years and i'm really impressed
[21:45] <khaije|amalt> whats the sitch with ubuntu one and kubuntu? no intergration yet?
[21:46] <james_l> They both use the same core, one has gnome, the other kde, there's also xubuntu (which I haven't played with, but has a different WM)
[21:48] <Oxymoron> Does somebody know if there is some stable release of avant window manager? :)
[21:48] <sgh> Riddell: What does this mean? http://pastebin.ca/1802019  I am bulding 'kde4libs' with 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b -j2'
[21:50] <Riddell> sgh: I don't know, it's not in English
[21:52] <sgh> Riddell: well no :) ... I just tought that you might know since you are maintaining the kde-packages - correctly if I'm wrong:)
[21:53] <Riddell> sgh: doesn't mean I can read languages I don't know
[21:55] <sgh> Riddell: ok ... How can I avoid rebuilding the package over and over again every time the compilation fails?
[21:57] <Riddell> sgh: debuild -nc
[22:00] <sgh> Riddell: great ... thanks for helping.
[22:04] <Oxymoron> Does anyone know if awn window manager is available for KDE or just Gnome? :(
[22:10] <slow-motion> n8
[22:38] <cbwcjw> Hmmm, so I'm getting annoyed by typing my password twice every time I login. First it prompts in KDM, but after I'm at the desktop it wants me to reenter my password for the KDE wallet, presumeably for my wireless settings.
[22:39] <idbeu> Hey all, quick question: I've just finished installing all the updates for KDE4.4 from the Kubuntu backports server, and now it's crashing on startup (kde4init)
[22:39] <idbeu> Any ideas?
[22:40] <Tresmius> Hey I've got a 64 bit system, should I get the 64-bit version of Kubuntu? Does it support everything the 32-bit version does?
[22:40] <idbeu> Tresmius: I have the 64 bit version, and I haven't run into a problem yet
[22:41] <Tresmius> I remember a while ago I had trouble getting flash installed on a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[22:41] <Tresmius> Do 32-bit versions work fine too?
[22:41] <Tresmius> on the 64-bit OS :P
[22:41] <idbeu> Believe it or not, Flash for 64bit linux is in alpha right now
[22:42] <idbeu> I'm pretty sure I have flash on my machine, and it works.\
[22:43] <idbeu> The 64 bit version of Flash showed up in the ppa
[22:43] <Tresmius> a 64bit version?
[22:43] <idbeu> yep
[22:51] <neptune_> hi
[23:36] <djustice> hm. in my chroot dir, /boot/vmlinuz has magically disappeared... how do i regenerate it?
[23:38] <sgh> Riddell: The performance-patch for kde4libs is here : http://pastebin.ca/1802124
[23:38] <sgh> Riddell: It works real nice and smooth now. I would be happy if your would include it.
[23:40] <cbwcjw> So I'm wondering why I have to keep manually start compositing in 4.4
[23:41] <fso3hsbf5> hi
[23:41] <cbwcjw> (Why do people join, say hi, then leave?)
[23:43] <Riddell> sgh: well, it's hassle for me and I could just wait until 4.4.1 comes out which we'll be packaging anyway.  I can upload it but only if it's minimal hassle which would mean you adding it to our packaging, do you know how or want me to show you how?
[23:45] <sgh> Riddell: yeah that would be real nice.... is it a long procedure ?
[23:45] <Riddell> sgh: nope, join us in #kubuntu-devel for the secrets of the ninjas
[23:45] <sgh> Riddell: :D
[23:49] <ni1s> Is ahoxtherre
[23:49] <ni1s> oops
[23:49] <ni1s> Is there any way to "alt+tab" between channels in quassel?
[23:50] <n8w1ng> hey
[23:51] <cbwcjw> !hi | n8w1ng
[23:52] <n8w1ng> consider the followin configuration: 4gb of ram,kubuntu 64bit, 4.65gb of swap...would u say that suspend to disk is gonna work?
[23:54] <arturo> hi
[23:54] <cbwcjw> !hi | arturo
[23:55] <arturo> Thank you
[23:57] <robin0800> ni1s: if the all chats has focus you can use the arrow keys
[23:59] <ni1s> robin0800: focus? how do you mean?