| === maxb_ is now known as maxb | ||
| happytiger | amarok: Depends: amarok-common (= 2:2.2.2-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 00:51 |
|---|---|---|
| happytiger | Is amarok tottally screwed ATM? | 00:51 |
| kuadrosx | BUGabundo: all works fine now, thanks for the help and hopes :) | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | np | 00:54 |
| kuadrosx | and sorry for my English :) | 00:54 |
| billybigrigger | hey all | 02:45 |
| billybigrigger | anyone here have any luck jailbreaking an ipod touch in lucid yet?\ | 02:45 |
| Takyoji | Anyone having an issue with the address bar in Firefox just recently? | 03:28 |
| kebomix | does Kubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Daily Build includes to kde 4.4 ? | 03:37 |
| === Guest45054 is now known as celthunder | ||
| [Adam|Miner] | When trying to go to Lucid, I get the popup "Unable to get exclusive lock" in Ubuntu, how do I get it to upgrade? | 03:49 |
| billybigrigger | you not running as sudo | 03:50 |
| [Adam|Miner] | And how do I? | 03:50 |
| billybigrigger | :) i guess i could have told you that in #ubuntu but lucid support is here | 03:50 |
| billybigrigger | type sudo before your command | 03:51 |
| === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support and discussion channel | Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Milestones: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule | Alpha 2 released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 | ||
| billybigrigger | and enter your password | 03:51 |
| [Adam|Miner] | Okay thanks, I'm still a windows guy who's fed up at this point | 03:51 |
| [Adam|Miner] | sudo update-manager -d right? | 03:52 |
| jage | adam, I've been where you are a few weeks ago, including the "GOTO #ubuntu+1!!!" I've pretty much stopped posting in the forums. *shrug* it's still better | 03:52 |
| jage | *than windoze | 03:53 |
| [Adam|Miner] | I used to like windows untill the good ol "Bad battery" bug in windows 7 that would shut down my laptop while it's plugged in | 03:53 |
| billybigrigger | [Adam|Miner], yes, that's the right command | 03:53 |
| billybigrigger | you should read the release notes before upgrading though | 03:54 |
| billybigrigger | might save you some hassle of asking repeated questions in here | 03:54 |
| wolter | hi, how fast is lucid booting? | 03:54 |
| jage | adam, I did a fresh install going to Lucid, of course I was formatting from windows anyway | 03:54 |
| wolter | I get about 75s in karmic | 03:55 |
| dug | I have tried #ubuntu for hours, I know this is lucid support but perhaps someone where could let me know why I am getting runlevel unknown on karmic, I have tried everything I can thing of | 03:55 |
| [Adam|Miner] | Think I'll go with a fresh CD for now :/ not having the best of luck | 03:56 |
| [Adam|Miner] | My current disc is 8.04 XD | 03:56 |
| jage | what broadcom do you have? | 03:57 |
| [Adam|Miner] | I know it is a Compaq C727US, not sure exactly what chip they put in it | 03:57 |
| jage | my driver comes up as "Broadcom B43" ... hope it works for you | 03:58 |
| jage | you know about turning the driver on? | 03:58 |
| DanaG | !b43 | 04:00 |
| DanaG | where | 04:00 |
| DanaG | where's 'ze' bot? | 04:00 |
| DanaG | oh, it PMs. | 04:00 |
| DanaG | !info b43-fwcutter | 04:00 |
| jage | !ubotto | 04:01 |
| ubottu | b43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 1:012-1 (lucid), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB | 04:01 |
| jage | so anyone in here recommend a GUI file find that would result in being able to drop a replacement file in the folder? | 04:03 |
| pasjr | My FireFox is broke. Did any one else lose the ability to use FireFox | 04:04 |
| crimsun | FYI, JACK has been approved to be promoted back into main, so pulseaudio will be shipping the jack source and sink in Lucid. | 04:05 |
| crimsun | This is likely to ripple over to xine-lib and alsa-plugins, too. | 04:05 |
| pasjr | ????????????????? | 04:06 |
| pasjr | hello | 04:06 |
| pasjr | any one here??? | 04:07 |
| jage | !ask | pasjr | 04:08 |
| ubottu | pasjr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 04:08 |
| pasjr | What Happened to FireFox? It broke | 04:10 |
| alex_mayorga | pasjr, let me see if mine breaks, I just got the latests updates BTW broke=??? | 04:13 |
| pasjr | I can not enter http: add and go to it, can only go to what is bookmarked, and I have no search funtion | 04:14 |
| pasjr | no start page either | 04:14 |
| jage | movie player is saying it needs a plugin, requested plugin in "DVD subpicture decoder" and it's "No packages with the requested plug-in found" What are these plugins and where can I search/install them? DVD was created w/ Windows movie maker | 04:21 |
| * DanaG wonders if that pasjr just had to restart firefox. | 04:25 | |
| andersk | My Firefox has the same problem. Restarting doesn’t help. | 04:45 |
| andersk | This is possibly bug 523569? It still seems weird that I can’t visit a URL in the address bar. | 04:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 523569 in firefox "No search providers or default search provider in 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523569 | 04:50 |
| kklimonda | andersk: it's going to be fixed in ubuntu4 release | 04:56 |
| andersk | Yeah, 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 fixes it. | 05:15 |
| * alex_mayorga guesses he shouldn't have restarted Firefox | 05:15 | |
| alex_mayorga | andersk, when's that coming out? | 05:17 |
| jage | how does one get the firefox fix? | 05:17 |
| alex_mayorga | so it's aptitude install chromium time? | 05:20 |
| jage | in my firefox I can use the homepage button. Went to Edit > Prefs and changed the homepage to google.com, and I can use google just fine. Clicking on links from here seems to work as well (e.g. the launchpad bug link) | 05:21 |
| kklimonda | grr.. why can't evolution support sieve.. | 05:24 |
| wolter | Are there any major bugs in Lucid which would make it a non-recommendable system? | 05:50 |
| wolter | As of now, I'm having some problems with karmic, such as 70s boot times, and app-armor failures most probably due to that i installed the 2.6.32 kernel | 05:50 |
| kklimonda | wolter: lucid alpha quality - you don't know when it's going to break | 05:51 |
| kklimonda | wolter: you may not even be able to boot it or login | 05:52 |
| wolter | oh | 05:52 |
| wolter | thanks for the feedback :P | 05:52 |
| kklimonda | wolter: it's not recommended for the main system | 05:52 |
| wolter | ok, then its not for me, thanks again | 05:53 |
| andersk | alex_mayorga: I got it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox . It’s already built for amd64, i386, and powerpc, but not uploaded yet. | 05:55 |
| jage | is there a way to set a backup point so that if an update fubars things Lucid can be reinstalled at the previous point (as opposed to format, install and reconfigure)? | 05:57 |
| kklimonda | jage: no | 05:58 |
| DanaG | well, full-partition backup might count. | 06:02 |
| arand | jage: partimage/fsarchiver/dd | 06:03 |
| === jage is now known as metricpiano | ||
| genii | I wonder if a metric piano has 100 keys instead of 88 | 06:07 |
| lenios | using a virtual machine could help restoring a previous point | 06:07 |
| kklimonda | heh, I'd use yahoo search if it didn't look so cramped compared to google | 06:24 |
| kklimonda | even bing looks better | 06:25 |
| iflema | ya rekon itll change? | 06:25 |
| kklimonda | probably not | 06:26 |
| iflema | kklimonda try out another metacrawler.... one that searches goole yahoo and whatever else..... all in one | 06:28 |
| cef | Trying to upgrade from Karmic to Lucid (Server install) using 'do-release-upgrade -d' and I get "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libplymouth2 for mountall, probably a dependency cycle." (Bug #514012 against mountall). Any suggestions to hard-force my way through this issue? | 06:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 514012 in mountall "cyclic dependency between mountall and libplymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514012 | 06:44 |
| coz_ | guys..any news on sun-java in the rpositories? | 07:13 |
| crimsun | what do you mean? | 07:17 |
| crimsun | sun-java was removed completely | 07:17 |
| hifi | :o | 07:17 |
| hifi | thats baaad | 07:18 |
| coz_ | crimsun, I see that but many sites do not work with icedtea | 07:18 |
| coz_ | and I have no interest in open java | 07:18 |
| coz_ | will sun java be available though? | 07:18 |
| hifi | one finnish bank uses java for ebanking, it does not accept icedtea | 07:19 |
| crimsun | not in the Ubuntu repository, no. | 07:19 |
| hifi | I can already hear the screams | 07:20 |
| coz_ | crimsun, oo that may stop my use of lucid ...the only reason I switched to ubuntu when it came out from BeOs is sun java :( | 07:20 |
| * DanaG read that as: ubuntu came out from BeOS. | 07:20 | |
| DanaG | oh yeah, crimsun: I've been having lots of trouble getting "memblock.c: pool full" messages on that BeagleBoard. | 07:21 |
| coz_ | manual install i guess :) | 07:21 |
| DanaG | Will it be in partner? | 07:21 |
| crimsun | DanaG: test 0ubuntu7 when it's built & available, please. | 07:22 |
| DanaG | okay, shall do. | 07:22 |
| DanaG | I've been streaming over cdc-ether from host to beagle, to onboard. | 07:22 |
| DanaG | I also randomly suddenly started having to enable the "headset" sliders to get any audio. Boy, having that many sliders can be confusing. | 07:23 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, and I forgot to enable ubuntu-audio-dev repo on the thing. | 07:26 |
| === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac | ||
| virtuald_ | is it just my firefox that is broken? i can't go to urls | 07:31 |
| virtuald_ | if i type them in manually | 07:31 |
| virtuald_ | search box doesn't work either | 07:31 |
| virtuald_ | never mind there's a newer package | 07:32 |
| coz_ | virtuald_, I noticed ctrl+ enter doesn work let me check another | 07:32 |
| coz_ | virtuald_, no cant go to site when typing manually here either | 07:32 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, I do have the thing running in System mode on the beagleboard. | 07:32 |
| RAOF | crimsun: Is “ubuntu-bug audio” going to collect enough information to debug “the volume control on my USB speakers has approximately the full volume range compressed into the last 10% of the slider”? | 07:35 |
| virtuald_ | o.O | 07:35 |
| virtuald_ | coz_: now it works again when i got the newest packages | 07:38 |
| coz_ | virtuald_, mm I will have to update let me try | 07:38 |
| RAOF | I'd guess ALSA's lying about its ability to convert dB values, so I'm getting an exponential volume control rather than a linear one. | 07:38 |
| DanaG | eh, I had a thought.... my cm106 card: who could I donate one to to get the weird PA behavior fixed? | 07:40 |
| crimsun | DanaG: what does "weird" entail? | 07:40 |
| DanaG | This one: | 07:40 |
| crimsun | RAOF: not really, but it's already being discussed on alsa-devel@. | 07:40 |
| DanaG | http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/678 | 07:41 |
| crimsun | pretty much all usb devices have this symptom | 07:41 |
| crimsun | all usb audio devices* | 07:41 |
| coz_ | virtuald_, yep works here as well | 07:41 |
| DanaG | ALso advertises bogus dpi... even confuses win7 out-of-the-box driver. | 07:41 |
| DanaG | er | 07:41 |
| DanaG | bogus dB. | 07:41 |
| DanaG | dBa. | 07:41 |
| DanaG | whatever. | 07:41 |
| DanaG | Sorry, I must have "DPI rant" leftovers littering my brain. | 07:41 |
| DanaG | =þ | 07:43 |
| RAOF | crimsun: Oh, so no point in filing a bug? | 07:44 |
| RAOF | Or just file one for tracking. | 07:44 |
| ActionParsnip | Yo yo yo | 07:45 |
| DanaG | yo yo MA | 07:46 |
| ActionParsnip | Quiet in here | 07:49 |
| DanaG | argh, this atom cpu sucks so much... scrolling on the host system makes the pulseaudio network audio drop out. | 07:58 |
| DanaG | The ARM is fine, though. | 07:58 |
| voidmage | oh, for whoever was about the SC2 beta earlier | 07:59 |
| voidmage | i found a download link on fileplanet, going to see how far i can get with the install and launch up until login at least | 07:59 |
| voidmage | (no key so i can't actually get in very far) | 07:59 |
| voidmage | in wine, that is | 08:00 |
| DanaG | GUAWd, this atom is slow. | 08:03 |
| DanaG | I'll have to stick firefox on the arm thingy to compare. =þ | 08:04 |
| ghostcube | why is sun java not included to lucid anymore ? | 08:11 |
| ghostcube | mtoolkit bug exists since years | 08:12 |
| chris| | ghostcube, it was replaced by opensdk | 08:20 |
| ghostcube | not working with many apps | 08:20 |
| ghostcube | no solution | 08:20 |
| chris| | then you should file bugs against those apps | 08:23 |
| DanaG | er, openjdk? | 08:23 |
| DanaG | that's s -> j | 08:23 |
| chris| | yeah, what I meant :) | 08:24 |
| ghostcube | i dont file bugs against 50% of the java apps | 08:25 |
| ghostcube | is ubuntu in relation with apple nowadyas or why is this ? | 08:25 |
| chris| | what does openjdk have to do with apple? | 08:25 |
| ghostcube | cause they blame sun java | 08:26 |
| ghostcube | thats all i ask | 08:26 |
| ghostcube | hmm ok nm i will install manually | 08:26 |
| chris| | Sun open sourced Java some years ago and since then, it's the openjdk | 08:26 |
| voidmage | oh whoops | 08:26 |
| coz_ | yeah openjdk is not adequate enough for my use | 08:26 |
| voidmage | that whole SC2 thing i put in the wrong channel sorry about that | 08:26 |
| voidmage | :| | 08:26 |
| ghostcube | yep | 08:26 |
| chris| | you won't find anything else on Suns Webpage either | 08:27 |
| chris| | there IS NO Sun JDK any more, it's that simple | 08:28 |
| coz_ | unfortunately that means I may have to move away from ubuntu | 08:29 |
| coz_ | darn | 08:29 |
| * kklimonda shrugs | 08:30 | |
| coz_ | 6 years not wasted but now useless | 08:30 |
| chris| | to what end? using MS Java? yeah, that's propably much better | 08:30 |
| DanaG | hmm, some official news about this thing? | 08:31 |
| ghostcube | chris|: the apps dont work with open java but ok we file bugs now | 08:31 |
| ghostcube | we'll see | 08:31 |
| DanaG | the discontinuation, that id? | 08:31 |
| coz_ | openjkd is useless so I need sun java regardless of the distribution | 08:32 |
| kklimonda | coz_: if you think it's easier to switch to another distribution than to download sun java directly from their site than just switch. | 08:32 |
| ghostcube | kklimonda: thats not the point | 08:32 |
| chris| | ghostcube, you don't get it, do you? it's not an ubuntu thing, it's not a linux either, there IS NO Sun sdk any more | 08:32 |
| DanaG | Is this just a Lucid thing... or has Sun themselves discontinued the self-built Java? | 08:32 |
| DanaG | I need a news article link of some sort. | 08:32 |
| coz_ | DanaG, same here | 08:33 |
| ghostcube | chris|: i get it but i think you dont get it ... the apps dont run with open java | 08:33 |
| coz_ | not clear on the reasoning or rational | 08:33 |
| chris| | Solaris: OpenJDK, Windows: OpenJDK, Mac: OpenJDK, java.sun.com: OpenJDK | 08:33 |
| coz_ | e | 08:33 |
| ghostcube | doenst matter what you tell me | 08:33 |
| DanaG | argh, for some reason, alllllllllllll my audio sliders are all muted! | 08:36 |
| kklimonda | I'm pretty sure that they are going to move sun java to partners repo before lucid is released | 08:40 |
| DanaG | I still see no news of official discontinuation of Java. | 08:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | morning | 08:42 |
| DanaG | DOesn't look discontinued to me. | 08:42 |
| DanaG | http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp | 08:42 |
| chris| | and why would you? | 08:42 |
| DanaG | so IS it just an Ubuntu decision? | 08:44 |
| chris| | no | 08:45 |
| kklimonda | DanaG: we are moving it to the partners repo so what's the problem? | 08:45 |
| DanaG | I was just reading one person saying that "even on Windows, only OpenJDK is left". | 08:45 |
| chris| | the bins from java.sun.com are build using the OpenJDK source | 08:45 |
| DanaG | So that's not correct. | 08:45 |
| DanaG | oh wait | 08:45 |
| DanaG | now I am half-confused. =þ | 08:45 |
| DanaG | where's some official source for that bit of info? | 08:46 |
| kklimonda | DanaG: openjdk is simply a java from sun that has been opensourced | 08:47 |
| DanaG | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK | 08:48 |
| DanaG | ah, so it's more like the two systems have converged. | 08:48 |
| kklimonda | and icedtea6 is a fully compatible java implementation | 08:48 |
| === debfx_ is now known as debfx | ||
| kklimonda | if any application doesn't work with it and works with java 6 from sun that it's a bug in the application | 08:48 |
| kklimonda | but the plan is to still have java 6 from sun in -partner repository | 08:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | kklimonda: and what about a browser plugin? | 08:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I need to pay my taxes | 08:52 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo_remote: there is a plugin | 08:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | and you know how public entities love to use java at 800x600 | 08:52 |
| kklimonda | not really - in Poland I've managed not to use Java for anything ;) | 08:53 |
| kklimonda | on the other hand we still can't pay taxes though the internet | 08:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | eheh | 08:59 |
| BUGabundo_remote | we can pay pretty much any official thing via internet | 08:59 |
| DanaG | bank site fail: http://branchline.pacificservice.org | 08:59 |
| DanaG | should redir to https. | 08:59 |
| BUGabundo_remote | even prepring marriage or new IDs | 08:59 |
| DanaG | but nope. | 08:59 |
| dAnjou | hey, ghostcube | 09:03 |
| ghostcube | hi dAnjou :) | 09:03 |
| kklimonda | heh, the more time passes since alpha2 release the longer my system boots :/ | 09:03 |
| kklimonda | over 20 seconds after latest updates | 09:03 |
| kklimonda | so it looks like u1 music store sells mp3s.. and that's the only info I've managed to find :/ | 09:06 |
| chris| | kklimonda, as far as I know, u1 is just a middle man. they just provide an interface for some partners content | 09:12 |
| kklimonda | chris|: indeed | 09:12 |
| kklimonda | but I was hoping to get a confirmation which partner it is | 09:12 |
| chris| | haven't found anything on that topic either | 09:12 |
| kklimonda | heh, loading jamendo catalog in rhythmbox makes rhythmbox use over 160MB of ram | 09:13 |
| chris| | but I wouldn't be surprised if you could find that in some unwanted id3 comment or something | 09:14 |
| kklimonda | there are quite a few clues that it is going to be 7digital | 09:14 |
| chris| | never heard of them | 09:17 |
| chris| | but "High Quality MP3 Downloads" is quite a contradiction ;) | 09:17 |
| kklimonda | well, for me MP3 files compressed with V0 lame settings are indistinguishable from flac files anyway ;) | 09:19 |
| arand | Is U1MS going to actually sell mp3s or ogg? | 09:19 |
| kklimonda | arand: All I've found out is that rhythmbox plugins installs mp3 decoder | 09:20 |
| kklimonda | plugin* | 09:20 |
| * DanaG wishes places would sell flac. | 09:21 | |
| DanaG | Cowon S9 plays flac natively. woot. | 09:21 |
| arand | So are you buying the decoder or are they simply ignoring the legalities? | 09:21 |
| kklimonda | no idea - it downloads fluendo version of the decoder so either Canonical has made a deal with them or it's free and legal now | 09:22 |
| kklimonda | looks like it's free | 09:23 |
| chris| | kklimonda, that might be even true, but I won't pay money for something that has been chopped down into a 20 year old format for the sake of stupidity | 09:24 |
| kklimonda | chris|: sure - you are entitled to your opinion. My friend says the same | 09:25 |
| chris| | also, buying CDs of ebay is often cheaper that downloads ;) | 09:27 |
| kklimonda | but then you get CD which you have to keep somewhere safe | 09:28 |
| kklimonda | I like buying digital content as long as I get the right to redownload it when I want exactly because I hate having physical mediums.. | 09:29 |
| Sysi | i'm with xubuntu lucid on eee 701, how can i set up password for default keyring? | 09:30 |
| Sysi | or is that even possible yet | 09:32 |
| DanaG | CDs are good to just stash somewhere after you rip to, say, FLAC. | 09:32 |
| kklimonda | DanaG: sure - but the point is you have to stash them somewhere :) | 09:34 |
| DanaG | yeah, but you can put a whole bunch in the same place. Like, the back of a closet. Or something. | 09:35 |
| chris| | I would prefer digital as well, but so far, I have only found magnatunes to be a store that i like | 09:36 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. magnatune | 09:39 |
| kklimonda | I have to contact them and ask for access to my purchases.. | 09:39 |
| kklimonda | I've removed @gmail.com account and it was a pretty dumb move to make ;) | 09:39 |
| om26er | any one using gwibber 2.29.90 ? its showing 2.29.1 in about window | 09:47 |
| BUGabundo_remote | om26er: correct | 09:51 |
| BUGabundo_remote | so? | 09:51 |
| om26er | BUGabundo_remote, I'll report it | 09:51 |
| BUGabundo_remote | why? | 09:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its always changing | 09:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I bet it was put on a hurry to meet FF | 09:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ping kenvandine instead | 09:54 |
| om26er | BUGabundo_remote, ok | 09:57 |
| zniavre | hello | 10:02 |
| zniavre | rhythmbox crash randomly, is it known as bug ? | 10:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | zniavre: depends on the crash | 10:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | :p | 10:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | do you have a trace? | 10:04 |
| zniavre | not really there is no apport window (i started it with launcher not via terminal) | 10:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | so it aint all that usefull | 10:05 |
| zniavre | yes i know | 10:05 |
| zniavre | but it's ramdomly sometime i can stay 1 hour , other time it crash after 5mn | 10:06 |
| kklimonda | zniavre: it still doesn't help - do you have /var/crash/_usr_bin_rhythmbox... file? | 10:08 |
| zniavre | kklimonda, a yes it's opening apport window | 10:08 |
| zniavre | nice thank you | 10:09 |
| zniavre | i m sending it right now | 10:09 |
| zniavre | #523721 | 10:17 |
| kklimonda | bug 523721 | 10:17 |
| ubottu | Bug 523721 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/523721 is private | 10:17 |
| zniavre | private ? | 10:18 |
| kklimonda | all crashes are made private by default as they may contain private data like logins, passwords etc. | 10:18 |
| zniavre | ho | 10:19 |
| zniavre | it still usefull like that ? | 10:19 |
| kklimonda | later, when apport-retrace tool checks it ubuntu-bugcontrol is going to be subscribed to it and we'll check attached files for any private data and make it public | 10:19 |
| zniavre | ok thank you | 10:19 |
| zniavre | let 's wait and see | 10:19 |
| om26er | just updated and after reboot no sound | 10:26 |
| om26er | ALSA lib conf.c:3272:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so | 10:26 |
| om26er | ALSA lib control.c:902:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default | 10:26 |
| om26er | cannot open mixer: No such file or directory | 10:26 |
| om26er | this message came when started alsamixer from terminal | 10:27 |
| kklimonda | crimsun: ^ | 10:28 |
| kklimonda | om26er: have you modified your audio stack or configuration somehow? | 10:28 |
| om26er | kklimonda, no, just updated | 10:28 |
| robin0800 | what caused alpha3 to be slipped a week to the 25th? | 10:34 |
| ciplogic | Where I report the package unavailability? The biggest miss is gnome-shell but I found other one non updated with a daily update | 10:37 |
| om26er | ciplogic, gnome-shell is available in lucid | 10:37 |
| ciplogic | gnome-shell: libgjs0 but it is not going to be installed | 10:38 |
| ciplogic | I use x64 version | 10:38 |
| ciplogic | (may matter) | 10:38 |
| ciplogic | Sorry: full error message is: Depends: libgjs0 but it is not going to be installed | 10:39 |
| om26er | ciplogic, wanna try the daily ppa? | 10:39 |
| ciplogic | Which is the repo string? | 10:39 |
| ciplogic | Of course | 10:40 |
| om26er | ppa:ricotz/testing | 10:40 |
| ciplogic | so I should add this in synaptic, isn't so? " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid ppa:ricotz/testing " | 10:42 |
| om26er | ciplogic, no | 10:42 |
| om26er | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/testing ;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install gnome-shell | 10:43 |
| ciplogic | Thank you, you're right, I don't have errors on installing gjs right now | 10:43 |
| kklimonda | robin0800: why do you think it slipped? | 10:44 |
| robin0800 | kklimonda: bugs I expect but that hasn't stopped them before | 10:45 |
| kklimonda | robin0800: 25th has been alpha3 release date since the beginning | 10:46 |
| kklimonda | well, since the moment we decided to synchronize with debian freeze | 10:46 |
| jve | I'm trying to install the daily build of lucid server from a usb stick onto a computer without a harddisk but with a sd-card. But when i come to the partitioning part in the install the sd-card does not show up. Haven't the server install got support for sd-cards? | 10:50 |
| kklimonda | no idea | 10:51 |
| om26er | jve, I guess yes as alternate install did not detect my sd card either | 10:53 |
| === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ | ||
| LSD|Ninja | Does Lucid compile epiphany with the webkit backend? | 11:06 |
| rww | LSD|Ninja: yes | 11:10 |
| LSD|Ninja | Awesome, so I can completely remove firefox, xulrunner, et al? | 11:11 |
| rww | I think yelp depends on xulrunner | 11:12 |
| RAOF | No, I'm pretty sure yelp has been ported to webkit. | 11:12 |
| kklimonda | LSD|Ninja: you can try - it is probably going to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage | 11:13 |
| rww | looks like RAOF's right. Shiny :) | 11:13 |
| LSD|Ninja | kklimonda: I'll give it a go. It's sitting in a VM atm so if I take a snapshot first I can always roll it back >:D | 11:13 |
| JoshuaL | it would be awesome if we could choose what software to install when installing (maybe under a advanced option) | 11:14 |
| LSD|Ninja | Also, have they fixed aliases in the latest versions of Empathy, anyone know? | 11:14 |
| LSD|Ninja | The one in karmic is completely useless because I can't set my outgoing aliases in anything | 11:15 |
| kklimonda | what do you mean by aliases? | 11:17 |
| kklimonda | JoshuaL: not going to happen | 11:18 |
| JoshuaL | to bad | 11:18 |
| LSD|Ninja | Display names, whatever they're called in other clients. Basically what other people see in their contact lists instead of 94674033 or johndoe36845@hotmail.com | 11:18 |
| LSD|Ninja | The version of Epiphany in karmic looks as though it lets you change them, but close the window, open it again and it's back to what it was before | 11:19 |
| LSD|Ninja | not Epiphany, Empathy | 11:19 |
| kklimonda | works fine for me with Jabber but support for it may depend on protocol and if it's implemented in the llibrary | 11:21 |
| LSD|Ninja | There's like a dozen open bugs on this in their bugzilla. It doesn't surprise me the Jabber module works though, that's been around for absolutely ages (assuming that Empathy/Telepathy in GNOME is related to Empathy/Telepathy in Maemo) | 11:22 |
| robin0800 | sound broken on today's update pulse audio has stopped working | 11:22 |
| === Wellark1 is now known as Wellark | ||
| PolitikerALT | Hello everyone, I got the following problem (started with 9.10): One of my wireless networks (NOT the wireless network "button" itself) is greyed out so I can't connect to this network. I can, however, connect to another network but this connection is rather unstable. I am using b44 driver using ndiswrapper - how can I find out what the problem is and fix it? | 11:31 |
| marienz | heh, glad I have a second browser on standby, this firefox thing is a little annoying | 11:49 |
| kklimonda | what firefox thing? | 11:52 |
| kklimonda | ubuntu4 version still isn't uploaded? | 11:53 |
| crimsun | ubuntu4 is already available | 11:53 |
| crimsun | om26er: alsa-plugins is currently broken; I know about it | 11:53 |
| crimsun | I may not have time to fix it before I go to work in the next hour | 11:53 |
| om26er | ah. ok | 11:54 |
| jve | I hve installed desktop lucid now but plymuth crashes. How do i get into the bootloader and change to boot without plymuth? | 12:00 |
| kklimonda | keep shift pressed before grub loads | 12:01 |
| kklimonda | left shift | 12:01 |
| jve | ok thx | 12:01 |
| jve | it doesn't work | 12:06 |
| jve | I have tried right shift, left shift, holding it, spamming it | 12:07 |
| jve | but i still end up with a blinking cursor and nothing happens | 12:07 |
| kklimonda | jve: you sure you kept it hold before system starts booting? | 12:08 |
| jve | yes | 12:08 |
| jve | Could it be that grub failed when i installed? | 12:08 |
| marienz | hmm, I see references to this in my lastlog but no solution yet. My firefox stopped responding to the "enter" key in the url bar. | 12:08 |
| kklimonda | why do you think it's a plymouth issue then? | 12:08 |
| marienz | I can still navigate through clicking links, but I can't enter urls directly. | 12:08 |
| gnomefreak | marienz: run it in safe mode it should help it | 12:09 |
| marienz | urgh | 12:09 |
| marienz | extensions issue then, I'll find the guilty one | 12:09 |
| gnomefreak | marienz: more than likely it is if not than its likely a profile issue | 12:10 |
| marienz | yeah, I can debug firefox, don't worry. Just figured this'd probably be known. | 12:10 |
| gnomefreak | marienz: not as far as i heard yet | 12:10 |
| ghostcube | marienz: do you have more than one java konsole as plugin ? | 12:11 |
| ghostcube | remove all except the last one | 12:11 |
| marienz | my /lastlog has... 6 or so people complaining | 12:11 |
| marienz | I don't java | 12:11 |
| marienz | it's not ubufox. Disabling everything... | 12:12 |
| gnomefreak | there is an extension that is known for that and i cant recall the name | 12:12 |
| marienz | nope, still dead in safe mode. Trying a fresh profile... | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | marienz: safe mode or just disabling extensions? | 12:13 |
| marienz | still dead in safe mode, which disables all extensions | 12:13 |
| crimsun | marienz: dpkg -l firefox | 12:13 |
| marienz | I just wanted to know if this was known. If it's not I'll debug, I can do that | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | marienz: it disables more than just extensions | 12:13 |
| marienz | I know! | 12:13 |
| crimsun | marienz: i.e., which version is installed? | 12:14 |
| marienz | really, seriously, I can do basic debugging on firefox. You do not have to walk me through this. I just wanted to know if this specific problem (no working enter in the url bar after an upgrade earlier this morning) is known. | 12:14 |
| marienz | 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 | 12:14 |
| kklimonda | marienz: there have been a problem with ubuntu3 release but it didn't affect my url bar | 12:14 |
| crimsun | 0ubuntu3 is broken; please update. | 12:15 |
| marienz | ok, thanks | 12:15 |
| marienz | weird, my timing must've sucked | 12:15 |
| === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support and discussion channel | firefox 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 is broken; update to 0ubuntu4 | libasound2-plugins is broken, being fixed | Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Milestones: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule | Alpha 2 released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 | ||
| marienz | (and either my bug search sucked or it affecting the enter key in the url bar is an uncommon failure mode) | 12:16 |
| om26er | to report a bug against the icon of evolution should I choose humanity or report it against evolution | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | om26er: does it only happen with that theme? | 12:20 |
| om26er | yes | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | om26er: the theme than | 12:20 |
| vish | gnomefreak: is thunderbird3 not upgraded by default? | 12:21 |
| * vish doesnt see it being offered | 12:21 | |
| gnomefreak | vish: it hasnt landed in Lucid yet. and yes it should be | 12:21 |
| vish | gnomefreak: oh , it hasnt.. heh, then whats asac tweeting all about ;) | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | there are a few things that needed to be done last i heard but dont recall what is holding it up | 12:22 |
| om26er | vish, would you look into this? in window picker applet evolution's icon is not obvious whether its active or not | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | vish: dont know havent gotten there yet :) | 12:22 |
| vish | om26er: screenshot ? | 12:22 |
| marienz | thanks, -ubuntu4 firefox fixed the failing enter key problem. | 12:23 |
| om26er | working on it | 12:23 |
| vish | om26er: use imagebin | 12:31 |
| om26er | vish, http://imagebin.org/85334 | 12:33 |
| om26er | http://imagebin.org/85335 | 12:33 |
| vish | om26er: what am i looking for? | 12:34 |
| om26er | evolution active or not no big difference | 12:35 |
| vish | om26er: with gnome? | 12:36 |
| om26er | yes | 12:36 |
| vish | om26er: hmm? screenshot with gnome ? | 12:36 |
| om26er | its window picker applet in netbook edition | 12:36 |
| LSD|Ninja | Any idea what's up with vboxmouse detection? It's rendering the pointer invisible when I have 3D on, and isn't letting me use anything but mouse capture with it on or off | 12:37 |
| vish | om26er: i'm not sure what the problem here is.. i dont use netbook.. how does it look with gnome-icon-theme | 12:38 |
| om26er | vish, just tried, actually in its case its not really obvious as both use white icon | 12:39 |
| vish | om26er: exactly! ;) | 12:39 |
| om26er | both themes have the issue | 12:40 |
| om26er | or not ;) | 12:40 |
| vish | om26er: the window picker just desaturates the inactive icon... but there is nothing to desaturate from a white icon ;p | 12:40 |
| om26er | vish, exactly | 12:41 |
| arpu | hello | 12:43 |
| arpu | have empathy and icq problems? | 12:43 |
| arpu | i get network error | 12:43 |
| vish | !ask | arpu | 12:43 |
| ubottu | arpu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 12:43 |
| om26er | arpu, always network error? | 12:44 |
| arpu | yes | 12:44 |
| arpu | but in pidgin too | 12:44 |
| om26er | arpu, which type of internet are you using? | 12:44 |
| arpu | cable over router and wlan | 12:44 |
| arpu | works since 5 years :> | 12:45 |
| arpu | om26er, you have the same problem ? | 12:52 |
| om26er | arpu, no, I read many bug reports like that | 12:52 |
| Homere | I'm testing lucid lynx on Xen PV and I don't get upstart messages on the console (starting OpenSSH Server [OK]), only kernel log and upstart errors. | 12:52 |
| Homere | hello | 12:52 |
| om26er | arpu, but in every case pidgin worked fine so your case is a bit unique | 12:53 |
| === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support and discussion channel | firefox 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 is broken; update to 0ubuntu4 | fixed pulseaudio & alsa-plugins uploaded | Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Milestones: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule | Alpha 2 released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 | ||
| om26er | arpu, try this open gconf-editor | 12:54 |
| om26er | arpu, click on apps>empathy and untick use_con | 12:54 |
| om26er | that *might* help | 12:55 |
| arpu | same problem | 12:56 |
| om26er | arpu, report a bug | 12:59 |
| om26er | arpu, can you please try to use wired internet and see if that helps? | 12:59 |
| arpu | this makes no different i think | 12:59 |
| arpu | i make same debug infos and make an bug report | 13:00 |
| arpu | thx | 13:00 |
| cow_ | Hemm, What should I do when I got a broken packacge that fixing it requires to remove ubuntu-desktop?:O | 13:18 |
| cow_ | (This is what "sudo apt-get -f install" tells) | 13:18 |
| JoshuaL | report a bug :p | 13:24 |
| jpds | cow_: That's fine. | 13:25 |
| jpds | cow_: Just be sure to read the description of 'apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop' | 13:26 |
| cow_ | Whats fine.. If be losing alot of the ubuntu stuff | 13:26 |
| === jf is now known as Guest39307 | ||
| jpds | cow_: No. | 13:26 |
| jpds | cow_: It's just a package that depends on all the other packages. | 13:26 |
| rye | btw, i figured out why my /tmp is not cleaned (I was running in circles, screaming and shouting about /tmp not being tmpfs in this channel). I have /usr on a separate partition. /usr/bin/find was not present on when /tmp mounted event arrived. Filed a bug. :) | 13:27 |
| cow_ | Well. Still how can I avoid to remove this? | 13:27 |
| cow_ | Isn't way clear this list without actualy do what its asking? | 13:28 |
| kklimonda | cow_: what package is that? | 13:29 |
| cow_ | unbutu-desktop":| | 13:30 |
| kklimonda | cow_: but what package is broken? | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | !ubuntu-desktop | 13:30 |
| ubottu | k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. | 13:30 |
| cow_ | Hem.. GR I dont realy remember, thats not broken at my computer.. | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | howdy | 13:31 |
| cow_ | Ok hope that it wont remove any other stuff too:X | 13:32 |
| BUGabundo_remote | (01:50:39 PM) asac: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/1514870 | 13:51 |
| BUGabundo_remote | TB3.x is now in the archive | 13:51 |
| johe|work | hi, i just downloaded lucid (server amd64) iso and tried to install, but grub cant be installed, i tried on an ESX system, any idea? | 13:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | eheh one ESC to many | 13:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no idea johe|work | 13:52 |
| johe|work | so, its also no 'normal' known bug? | 13:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | never touched ESX so I can't say | 13:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | take a peak at LP | 13:53 |
| rye | johe|work, you should use daily build | 13:54 |
| rye | johe|work, the one that happened to be in lucid alpha2 has broken grub installation | 13:54 |
| johe|work | well, rye where to find the daily? | 13:55 |
| johe|work | just found the other | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | shouldnt be much on that keyword | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | !daily | johe|work | 13:55 |
| ubottu | johe|work: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | bah | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I assumed he was using dailies :( | 13:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | my bad | 13:55 |
| rye | johe|work, ubuntu server is @ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ | 13:55 |
| * BUGabundo_remote will start demanding md5 hash of isos | 13:55 | |
| johe|work | thx rye | 13:56 |
| johe|work | BUGabundo_remote, hehe, i assumed too ;-) | 13:56 |
| rye | BUGabundo_remote, i got hit by this bug as well. And I was one click away before submitting the bug report, then the daily image finished downloading and I started installation from that. It installed grub w/o any problem. | 13:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | well if it was fixed in daily | 13:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no need to bug on alpha | 13:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | but ppl still download that | 13:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | for some *****d reason | 13:58 |
| jve | I have installed lucid desktop daily onto a sd-card but when i boot get an error taht says it can't find my root device and i am dropped to a initramfs shell. If i look into the /dev i there's no mmcblk devices. Can you help me? | 13:58 |
| rye | BUGabundo_remote, right, need alpha2 SP1 | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jve: file a bug | 13:58 |
| ppine | Hello, other people experience a broken pulseaudio / alsa after today's upgrade? | 13:58 |
| kklimonda | ppine: see topic | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ppine: /Topic | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | damn it kklimonda beat me to it | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | :( im soooo lagged | 13:59 |
| ppine | err? fix uploaded? | 13:59 |
| ppine | it just broke.... | 13:59 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no build yet | 13:59 |
| ppine | its a automated proces? | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo_remote | yes | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo_remote | if it doesn't fail to build | 14:00 |
| kklimonda | heh, 2 seconds to the 10s boot target | 14:01 |
| ppine | ok, should be a matter of hours then right? | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ppine: track the buildes | 14:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | https://launchpad.net/builders/ | 14:03 |
| ppine | Thanks, i can see its building on a sparc machine | 14:05 |
| ppine | this will give i386 ? | 14:06 |
| jemark | no more sound after the latest pulseaudio update :( | 14:07 |
| ppine | jemark: known issue, its being resolved atm | 14:07 |
| jemark | cool, thanks ppine | 14:07 |
| ppine | https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable/+build/1516095 | 14:07 |
| jemark | ppine, is that a ppa for karmic or lucid? | 14:08 |
| ppine | lucid | 14:08 |
| ppine | Binary packages awaiting publication: | 14:08 |
| ppine | what does that mean in general? | 14:08 |
| * BUGabundo_remote hands a dicitionarie to ppine | 14:08 | |
| ppine | merci | 14:09 |
| ppine | you knew what i meant it :P | 14:09 |
| ppine | _timespan... | 14:09 |
| * BUGabundo_remote hands a dictionary english to french to ppine | 14:09 | |
| BUGabundo_remote | ahh time | 14:09 |
| jemark | just waiting for this evening update then? | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ask crimsun | 14:09 |
| jemark | ;) | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: evening *where* in the world? | 14:10 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its 14h here | 14:10 |
| tgpraveen12 | http://www.mail-archive.com/lucid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com/msg05961.html | 14:10 |
| tgpraveen12 | ubuntu one music store in | 14:10 |
| jemark | it's 15:10 here | 14:10 |
| * BUGabundo_remote updates | 14:11 | |
| rye | tgpraveen12, http://isthemusicstorereadyyet.com/ | 14:11 |
| tgpraveen12 | rye: heh interesting. who created that site? | 14:12 |
| rye | tgpraveen12, aquarius, ubuntuone dev | 14:12 |
| tgpraveen12 | nice but then what does http://www.mail-archive.com/lucid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com/msg05961.html mean? | 14:13 |
| tgpraveen12 | it is ready right? | 14:13 |
| jemark | i hope that the sound issue will be solved soon since I like to listen to the news this evening ;) | 14:13 |
| rye | tgpraveen12, it is not ready for production yet, the plugin is created, the server side is being worked on | 14:13 |
| knittl | hi. after recent upgrades my sound broke | 14:14 |
| knittl | Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so | 14:14 |
| jemark | me too, knittl. knows issue according to ppine | 14:14 |
| knittl | ok, then it's alright :) | 14:15 |
| knittl | volume control is also missing in panel, and rhythmbox is not shown in notification area | 14:15 |
| jemark | known issue according to ppine... and it will be solved soon but I have no idea how soon ;) | 14:15 |
| knittl | it's ok, i listen to the radio in the meantime :D | 14:15 |
| vaibhav | My webcam is not working , Dell 1525 inspiron, integrated webcam, it worked fine in karmic | 14:16 |
| jemark | knittl, I don't have that problem... i remember that I had no more speaker applet but I added this manually. no issue with Rhythmbox, just no sound | 14:16 |
| knittl | jemark: what's the name of the applet? i can't find sound nor speaker | 14:16 |
| BUGabundo_remote | $ aptitudeupgrade | 14:16 |
| BUGabundo_remote | humm my terminal buffer just got clean, after libpam upgrade | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo_remote | not a good sign | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo_remote | knittl: /topic | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo_remote | vaibhav: file a bug against kernel (aka linux) | 14:17 |
| vaibhav | k | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: volume is now and indicator, not applet :\ | 14:18 |
| knittl | BUGabundo_remote: jemark already told me. just wanted to mention my panelapplets are also gone | 14:18 |
| knittl | oh, volume is in indicator now? good :) | 14:18 |
| knittl | btw … i miss hover for rhythmbox indicator icon | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Fetched 4,817kB in 5s (878kB/s) | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ahh we are back | 14:19 |
| jemark | knittl, gnome-volume-control-applet | 14:19 |
| jemark | knittl, try to run that | 14:19 |
| knittl | yup, that helped :) | 14:19 |
| knittl | but i don't have sound anyway ;) | 14:19 |
| jemark | knittl, me too, like I said, a known issue... | 14:20 |
| knittl | s igl ludl jgt TT | 14:20 |
| knittl | wops * i got that now ^^ | 14:20 |
| knittl | (wrong keyboard layout xD) | 14:21 |
| jemark | knittl, I added the gnome-volume-control-applet in the startup items... then it will appear as normal again after the reboot | 14:21 |
| knittl | but still no sound :P | 14:21 |
| jemark | ppine, do you have the LP number of this issue so I can track it when the update will be released? | 14:22 |
| ppine | jemark: i am new to this tracking thing as well, i suppose : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu8/+build/1516046 | 14:23 |
| ppine | its found there and the build is finished i downloaded some deps manually but i cant install depency errors. | 14:23 |
| jemark | ppine, that's a ppa for karmic, I'm afraid | 14:24 |
| ppine | Series: Lucid | 14:24 |
| jemark | ppine, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable | 14:24 |
| ppine | yeah thats something else :) | 14:24 |
| ppine | checkout the last link i posted | 14:25 |
| ppine | its the primary archive of ubuntu :> lucid | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: DON'T Had it | 14:25 |
| metricpiano | what's the latest on the ff fix for no search/no url entry? (bug 523569) | 14:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 523569 in firefox "No search providers or default search provider in 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523569 | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo_remote | it was replace!! | 14:25 |
| jemark | only karmic... | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its now a new indicator | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: don't link to that builder | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo_remote | just look at the package queue | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo_remote | metricpiano: ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam | 14:26 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, i see. | 14:26 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, do you have an idea when we can expect the fix for the sound issue? | 14:29 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no | 14:29 |
| jemark | i regret i updated today | 14:32 |
| ppine | jemark: so do i :) | 14:32 |
| jemark | ppine, also no sound for you, right? | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: downgrade | 14:32 |
| ppine | nope... | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo_remote | don't you have the old one in cache? | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no X is worse, believe mne | 14:32 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, tell me how to do that please? | 14:33 |
| ppine | BUGabundo_remote: well i can chat browse and listen to music from a tty :) | 14:33 |
| knittl | i still have my mp3 player with rockbox on it, so everything is fine | 14:33 |
| knittl | i will survive a day without youtube :D | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ppine: LOL | 14:33 |
| knittl | mocp \*/ | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo_remote | mocp FTW | 14:33 |
| knittl | :) | 14:33 |
| jemark | knittl, I have an internet radio next to me... ;) | 14:33 |
| aquarius | hm, sound is broken since upgrading about an hour ago...sound preferences thinks that sound is playing OK. I also don't have a sound menu. How do I start debugging this? | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | crimsun: will downgrade help this needy guys, or the build will be soon out ? | 14:34 |
| ppine | aquarius: dont its a known issue | 14:34 |
| knittl | jemark: i have radio on my mp3 device ;) | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | aquarius: /topic | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | damn... don't ppl read topic anymore? | 14:34 |
| jemark | aquarius, welcome to the club. ppine and I have the same issue | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | go look into your apt cache | 14:34 |
| * knittl too | 14:34 | |
| aquarius | BUGabundo_remote, the topic says that fixed PA is uploaded. :) | 14:35 |
| knittl | but i don't care *g* | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | in /var/cache/apt/archive | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | see if you have the older packages | 14:35 |
| jemark | BUG, it should be still there... I will check it now | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | tehn$ sudo dpkg -i THOSE files | 14:35 |
| om26er | is there a way so that humanity dont use monochrome | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | aquarius: uploaded != build != released | 14:36 |
| aquarius | BUGabundo_remote, pulseaudio* and alsa* in the older versions? | 14:36 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, where do I look for an how to install the older version from the cache? | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | aquarius: -1 then the on you have? | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: 3 lines above you asked | 14:37 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, I see but which files caused the issue exactly? | 14:38 |
| aquarius | BUGabundo_remote, yeah, just checking which packages need re-doing. If new ones are in the queue, I'll wait. | 14:39 |
| stdisease | I currently can't install xorg-driver-fglrx - am I doing something wrong | 14:39 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, i will try the pulse* | 14:39 |
| stdisease | gives me a complain about a xserver-xorg-core dependency | 14:40 |
| ppine | Forget it, the version is the same | 14:40 |
| ppine | it wont be in the cache... | 14:40 |
| jemark | ppine, i see | 14:41 |
| ppine | at least here it is. : Package: pulseaudio | 14:41 |
| ppine | Versions: | 14:41 |
| ppine | 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu6 | 14:41 |
| ppine | oops | 14:41 |
| jemark | ppine, makes more sense since the cache are the files just downloaded | 14:42 |
| ppine | maybe u have them try this command: sudo apt-cache showpkg pulseaudio | 14:42 |
| jemark | ppine, this one is in my cache pulseaudio_1%3a0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu6_i386.deb | 14:42 |
| ppine | same here | 14:43 |
| jemark | ppine, we are in the same boat | 14:43 |
| ppine | sucks to watch porn without the sound does it not. :P | 14:43 |
| jemark | ppine, just waiting is the best i guess | 14:43 |
| jemark | ppine, hahaha | 14:43 |
| jemark | ppine, watching dvb-t tv without sound is not so nice | 14:44 |
| knittl | ppine: haha, just told that to a friend over jabber xD | 14:45 |
| knittl | without reading your message first | 14:45 |
| jemark | knittl, haha | 14:45 |
| ppine | :D tell him jemark is trying to cover himself telling us he doesnt like watching dvb-t tv without sound | 14:46 |
| ppine | like there aint no pron channels on dvb-t :P | 14:46 |
| knittl | xD | 14:46 |
| jemark | knittl, using skype without sound is not so nice too | 14:46 |
| knittl | i don't use/have skype | 14:47 |
| ppine | ahwell, what can we expect running a distribution in development. | 14:47 |
| jemark | knittl, i can't hear the one calling.. im going to sleep ;)\ | 14:47 |
| jemark | sound is pretty basic... | 14:48 |
| knittl | but you can always use sign language on skype ;) | 14:48 |
| ppine | true, but anything is prone to failure. | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | stdisease: as yet to update their driver to match Xorg | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | just use open driver instead | 14:48 |
| jemark | you mean calling to a landline with skype? | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | am I all alone in here today??? | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | kklimonda, bjsnider, yofel_, charlie-tca, HELP | 14:48 |
| kklimonda | what? | 14:49 |
| kklimonda | :P | 14:49 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo_remote: what do you need help with? | 14:49 |
| jemark | knittl, but you like the solution for the applet, right? ;) | 14:49 |
| * kklimonda is reading backlog | 14:49 | |
| stdisease | BUGabundo_remote, ah all-right then | 14:49 |
| knittl | jemark: no, still no sound :P | 14:49 |
| jemark | knittl, at least it's a known issue and you have the speaker back... | 14:50 |
| jemark | :P | 14:50 |
| BUGabundo_remote | kklimonda: I'm becoming a bot, *again* | 14:50 |
| knittl | so i get reminded of the issue all the time? xD | 14:50 |
| jemark | what's wrong with firefox (broken in the topic?) | 14:51 |
| kklimonda | jemark: 0ubuntu4 is fixed | 14:51 |
| jemark | i have changed the search to google again, that's all.. | 14:51 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo_remote: I'm having an information overload - too many channels, not nearly enough time :) | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I know | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ME TOO | 14:52 |
| * BUGabundo_remote is mentally tired today | 14:52 | |
| kklimonda | heh, I've been waking up at 5am for the last few days.. | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | not enouth sleep and strange dream for the 1st time in ages | 14:52 |
| kklimonda | right now I'm a zombie | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | try not sleeping for 5 days | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | then you will know what a zoombie is | 14:52 |
| kklimonda | heh - working on some awesome thing or just insomnia? :) | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | no no not now | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | a few years ago | 14:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | when I used to do Lan Parties | 14:53 |
| stdisease | Lan Parties?? | 14:53 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo_remote: sorry, I missed it | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | What am I helping with? | 14:55 |
| kklimonda | apparently we've got quite a few nasty bugs and a lot of people are asking about them :) | 14:56 |
| charlie-tca | I just confirmed the abiword bug. It won't start in lucid. | 14:58 |
| * BUGabundo_remote puts /topic on quick trigger | 14:58 | |
| knittl | /t | 14:59 |
| jemark | im updating with the latest pulseaudio updates now | 15:00 |
| knittl | me2 | 15:00 |
| knittl | \*/ | 15:01 |
| jemark | knittl, a reboot and then I will be back, you too? | 15:01 |
| ppine | jemark: | 15:01 |
| knittl | do i have to reboot? | 15:01 |
| ppine | what mirror are u using ? | 15:01 |
| jemark | ppine, the main one | 15:01 |
| ppine | im using the dutch mirror its not here yet. | 15:01 |
| jemark | ppine, for development, I use the main repo... | 15:01 |
| ppine | jemark: ok i will wait to see if you got it working again | 15:02 |
| ppine | curious | 15:02 |
| jemark | knittl, i guess, you can also kill pulseaudo and start pulseaudio again ofcourse | 15:02 |
| jemark | ppine, ok, see ya in a while crocodile | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I use a local mirro, plus main | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | that way files in the mirror save bw from main | 15:03 |
| knittl | pulseaudio -k will not work xD | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo_remote | reboot | 15:03 |
| knittl | later | 15:03 |
| ppine | alsamixer gives the same error :( | 15:07 |
| jemark | ppine, still same | 15:07 |
| ppine | bummer :( | 15:08 |
| jemark | yes me too: ALSA lib conf.c:3272:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so | 15:08 |
| jemark | ALSA lib control.c:902:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default | 15:08 |
| jemark | cannot open mixer: No such file or directory | 15:08 |
| jemark | :( | 15:08 |
| stdisease | hmm I get the same error | 15:09 |
| jemark | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/523722 | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 523722 in alsa-driver "[Realtek ALC268] ALSA test tone not correctly played back (dup-of: 523716)" [Undecided,New] | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 523716 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio version defined as UNKNOWN" [High,Fix released] | 15:09 |
| ppine | jemark: and if you try : sudo alsa force-reload | 15:11 |
| jemark | ppine, what happened with urs? | 15:12 |
| ppine | still not working, but i didnt reboot yet | 15:12 |
| knittl | ppine: that crashed my firefox :> | 15:13 |
| jemark | http://pastebin.com/m4effe32b | 15:13 |
| jemark | ppine, see u soon. you can check my output here http://pastebin.com/m4effe32b | 15:15 |
| jemark | ppine, still no sound | 15:16 |
| ppine | same messega here | 15:17 |
| ppine | rebootign now | 15:17 |
| ppine | nope, no luck | 15:20 |
| jemark | ok | 15:20 |
| ppine | + gtk looks ugly | 15:20 |
| jemark | we are in the same boat | 15:20 |
| jemark | which theme? | 15:21 |
| BUGabundo_remote | guys stop beatching | 15:21 |
| jemark | here as ugly as before ;) | 15:21 |
| BUGabundo_remote | you are worse then danag on stroids :D | 15:21 |
| ppine | human lucid | 15:21 |
| BUGabundo_remote | mine is simply beautiful | 15:21 |
| alex_mayorga | :) | 15:21 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I just can't show COMPIZ cause I'm over Free NX | 15:22 |
| alex_mayorga | what's the "uglyness"? | 15:22 |
| ppine | and audacious is showing gtk decoration even though its set not to | 15:22 |
| jemark | weird, no change in human theme here, only nicer icons | 15:23 |
| ppine | alex_mayorga: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2228/screenshotuqm.png | 15:24 |
| knittl | adacious supposed to be a winamp clone? :D | 15:25 |
| jemark | ppine, just ur font is ugly.. | 15:25 |
| ppine | jemark: no the font is nice :P | 15:27 |
| ppine | that supposed to be like that | 15:27 |
| jemark | ppine, i see, I like a bigger font, but I don't see what's really ugly | 15:27 |
| xxploit | anyone else not have sound after upgrading packages? | 15:28 |
| knittl | /topic | 15:28 |
| jemark | xxploit, welcome to the club and please check the topic. here are a bunch of ppl having sound issues after the latest upgrade | 15:28 |
| xxploit | i looked at the topic, topic seems to say that fixes were available? least thats what i thought it said | 15:29 |
| jemark | ppine, i don't have human-lucid . where did you get this theme? | 15:29 |
| xxploit | fixed pulseaudio & alsa-plugins uploaded | 15:29 |
| jemark | xxploit, yes but my latest upgrade didnt solve the issue | 15:30 |
| barf | I did a dist-upgrade to 10.4 | 15:30 |
| knittl | xxploit: uploaded does not mean it's built and released | 15:30 |
| barf | and the config for dovecot-postfix is all different | 15:30 |
| ppine | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Human-Lucid | 15:30 |
| barf | I chose to keep my current configs | 15:30 |
| jemark | xxploit, knittl gave the answer ;) | 15:30 |
| barf | How can I reconfigure? | 15:30 |
| xxploit | knittl, o i think it meant the packages were now available, been like 2 days since i upgrade and read that and assume the fixes had been applied | 15:31 |
| xxploit | thought* | 15:31 |
| jemark | ppine, do you have a deb file? ;) | 15:31 |
| kklimonda | barf: try reinstalling package | 15:31 |
| kklimonda | barf: or purging it and installing again | 15:31 |
| barf | remove install? | 15:31 |
| ppine | jemark: nope just download the tar, open your appearance propperties and drag it in | 15:31 |
| kklimonda | apt-get --purge remove to delete your configuration (make sure to backup it) | 15:32 |
| barf | I tried dpkg -configure dovecot-postfix, but it told me that it was already configured | 15:32 |
| jemark | ppine, i will do that and see if it is "ugly" | 15:32 |
| kklimonda | barf: it would be dpkg-reconfigure | 15:32 |
| kklimonda | (a command, not option) | 15:33 |
| barf | ahh | 15:33 |
| barf | So that might still work for me? | 15:33 |
| === KB1JWQ is now known as PFY | ||
| kklimonda | it won't hurt to try | 15:34 |
| === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ | ||
| knittl | LOOOOOL, what's wrong with eagles…? xD | 15:35 |
| barf | Eagles? | 15:35 |
| jemark | ppine, ok here it seems... | 15:35 |
| barf | Or Tom Bombadil? | 15:35 |
| barf | Now you see me, now you don’t sort of... | 15:36 |
| knittl | barf: user joining all the time, just to get kicked 2 seconds later for flooding | 15:36 |
| jemark | http://img192.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img192/5499/screenshotpp.png | 15:36 |
| jemark | ppine, this is the screenshot: http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5499/screenshotpp.png | 15:36 |
| ppine | here is a close up of the problem : http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7177/gtkerror.png | 15:36 |
| jemark | ppine, can u check mine? | 15:37 |
| ppine | aber das ist ganz gut ja | 15:37 |
| ppine | u dont seem to have the problem | 15:38 |
| knittl | ppine: hihi, falscher chan? ;) | 15:38 |
| jemark | ppine, ben ook een Nederlander | 15:38 |
| jemark | ppine, also Dutch like you | 15:38 |
| barf | Is there a way to make linux and MacOS X co exist on the same node? | 15:38 |
| ppine | wrom moet je weten dan hoeveel graden het in dusseldorp is :P | 15:38 |
| barf | Ideally I would say 5GB MOSX, 5GB Ubuntu, 200GB storage | 15:39 |
| ppine | ah u live in germanencountry | 15:39 |
| barf | but which format to choose for storage? | 15:39 |
| BUGabundo_remote | why do ppl do dist upgrades !?!?!? specially when changing distro versions?? this is NOT debian... please use update-manager -d next time barf | 15:39 |
| jemark | ppine, yes, but will move shortly | 15:39 |
| jemark | ppine, for off-topic we can go to ubuntu-nl-offtopic ;) | 15:40 |
| BUGabundo_remote | barf: we recommend mailbox | 15:41 |
| ppine | u see the gtk glitches ? in the last link | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ohh no longer on mail subject | 15:41 |
| ppine | maybe its because of my dpi | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | FS is ext4 | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | 5G is very small | 15:41 |
| ppine | BUGabundo_remote: besure to set noatime,nobarrier | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo_remote | make that at least 10GB plus swap | 15:41 |
| jemark | ppine, maybe a reboot will help (again) or it's the video driver? | 15:42 |
| barf | What is mailbox? | 15:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | since everyone is so verbose today (and I can't work like this), anyone having X and dbus link dying to the point no new windows open up ?? | 15:42 |
| jemark | ppine, i see some glitches now, too | 15:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | err | 15:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | you scared me Pici | 15:43 |
| jemark | ppine, just a development version i guess..i will delete it and go back to the normal human theme... | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo_remote | barf: you don't know what maildir is and you manage a mail server?! | 15:43 |
| barf | maildir I like | 15:43 |
| ppine | jemark: have the problem here even with clearlooks | 15:44 |
| barf | mbox becomes corrupt | 15:44 |
| barf | I have mbox on my current mail setup | 15:44 |
| jemark | ppine, really? i will check mine | 15:44 |
| jemark | ppine, yes me too | 15:45 |
| jemark | ppine, at least the sound is worse than this | 15:45 |
| jemark | ppine, i wouldn't have noticed it | 15:45 |
| jemark | ppine, normal human seems ok here | 15:46 |
| ppine | strange things happening | 15:47 |
| jemark | ppine, yes but the sound need to be fixed soon ;) | 15:48 |
| ppine | how did they manage lucid to boot so fast actually | 15:48 |
| jemark | ppine, not bad isnt it. | 15:48 |
| ppine | really nice | 15:49 |
| kklimonda | so my sound doesn't work... | 15:50 |
| kklimonda | great ;) | 15:50 |
| ppine | kklimonda: type : modprobe pcspkr | 15:52 |
| jemark | kklimonda, great? | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: won't bother him | 15:52 |
| ppine | he's being synical | 15:53 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, i does bother me :( | 15:53 |
| jemark | ppine, ok | 15:53 |
| ppine | new updates available ....( cups and consorts | 15:54 |
| jemark | ppine, i see | 15:55 |
| jemark | i can't see the "no sound" issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ | 15:55 |
| ppine | ah its not ubuntu specific | 15:56 |
| ppine | check google its popping up all over now | 15:56 |
| ppine | also suse 11.2 rc2 suffering from the same problem | 15:56 |
| jemark | ppine, i see | 15:56 |
| jemark | ppine, then should be fixed soon (hopefully) | 15:57 |
| ppine | err well that was a post from november last year now i see :S | 15:57 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo_remote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/NouveauEvaluation | 15:57 |
| jemark | ppine, updated cups... | 15:57 |
| kklimonda | have you added your results? | 15:57 |
| ppine | shame there is no jsf driver for w32 then i could listen my music in windows | 16:01 |
| kklimonda | heh, still no sound and I have updated both pulse and alsa plugins.. | 16:02 |
| kklimonda | stupid jack migration | 16:02 |
| kklimonda | Pulseaudio plugin: no from alsa-plugins build log.. | 16:04 |
| jemark | kklimonda, me too | 16:05 |
| jemark | kklimonda, probably there will be a new update soon... | 16:05 |
| jemark | ppine, any solution yet? | 16:07 |
| jemark | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/523874 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 523874 in ubiquity "No audio" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:12 |
| BUGabundo_remote | wow | 16:14 |
| BUGabundo_remote | great name for a bug | 16:14 |
| BUGabundo_remote | almost as good as "ubuntu doesn't work" :p | 16:15 |
| genii | BUGabundo_remote: Or "broken" | 16:18 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | anyone having issues with KDE 4.4 freezing up? | 16:19 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | about 5-10 minutes after logging in, KDE stops responding to keyboard and mouse input | 16:20 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | using a Intel GMA950 for graphics | 16:20 |
| alex_mayorga | my audio is too faint today, is that a known problem? | 16:25 |
| ppine | on the sound thing, i can get the mixer to work by placing libasound_module_conf_pulse.so in /usr/lib/ rather then /usr/lib/alsa-lib | 16:28 |
| ppine | still no sound though... | 16:28 |
| kklimonda | ach, this silence is deafening.. | 16:28 |
| jemark | ppine, sound is back? | 16:29 |
| jemark | i see | 16:29 |
| jemark | im waiting for an update ;) | 16:31 |
| jemark | the firefox update wiped my bookmarks... | 16:31 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: check del.icio.us ;) | 16:32 |
| alex_mayorga | there are pulse updates, let me pull those | 16:32 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, thanks, i will pull those as well | 16:33 |
| jemark | i had an backup in ubuntu one... | 16:34 |
| alex_mayorga | is there a way to reset the sound levels? | 16:34 |
| ppine | jemark: u have new updates to for pulse ? | 16:36 |
| jemark | ppine, no, not yet | 16:37 |
| kklimonda | they don't seem to fix anything | 16:37 |
| jemark | yep | 16:38 |
| kklimonda | I have both new pulse and alsa-plugins | 16:38 |
| jemark | i will just relax and listen to the radio | 16:38 |
| jemark | kklimonda, no solution? | 16:38 |
| kklimonda | jemark: not yet | 16:38 |
| jemark | kklimonda, ppine, i will come back after a few hours | 16:39 |
| ppine | http://tinyurl.com/3cjvp2 | 16:40 |
| ppine | allrighty | 16:40 |
| kklimonda | ppine: please - don't tell me you have just pasted a link to porno site on purpose.. | 16:40 |
| jemark | oh no, i thought it was a fix | 16:41 |
| ppine | kklimonda: no i was thinking it was i site about keez dogś :P | 16:41 |
| jemark | at least no sound... | 16:42 |
| ppine | :D | 16:42 |
| alex_mayorga | ppine: no sound there either :( | 16:42 |
| jemark | it would be strange that there will be sound and not in rhytmbox... | 16:42 |
| alex_mayorga | actually there's sound, but super faint | 16:42 |
| jemark | really? | 16:43 |
| jemark | let's check :D | 16:43 |
| alex_mayorga | so I'm sticking to my messed up levels theory | 16:43 |
| jemark | really? but can't even startup alsamixer | 16:44 |
| alex_mayorga | there's sound if I plug headphones | 16:45 |
| jemark | really? | 16:45 |
| alex_mayorga | yup | 16:45 |
| jemark | ok, i will check | 16:45 |
| ppine | alex_mayorga: try this, like this you are able to use the alsamixer from the terminal again | 16:45 |
| ppine | sudo cp /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so /usr/lib | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo_remote | GUYS listen to me for a sec | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo_remote | install PAMAN | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo_remote | open it up and check the percentage of the pipes | 16:46 |
| jemark | ok | 16:46 |
| alex_mayorga | ppine: sorry the DP video got me distracted :P | 16:46 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_remote: what's the package name | 16:47 |
| alex_mayorga | my output tab on sound preferences has "analog-output-desktop-speaker" and "Analog Output" does that matter? | 16:48 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, but i have no sound from the headphone... | 16:48 |
| ppine | did one of you try this ? sudo cp /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so /usr/lib | 16:49 |
| ppine | it will give you back access to "alsamixer" | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | alex_mayorga: err paman? | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | !info paman | 16:49 |
| * alex_mayorga kicks the bot | 16:50 | |
| ubottu | paman (source: paman): PulseAudio Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 90 kB, installed size 560 kB | 16:50 |
| ppine | thats excluding the deps | 16:51 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_remote: installed, how do I check the levels? | 16:51 |
| jemark | ppine, yep, installed it | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | nothing like a good kike to make stuff work | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo_remote | alex_mayorga: open it up, 2nd or 3rd tab | 16:53 |
| * charlie-tca is impressed. That was a good kick | 16:53 | |
| BUGabundo_remote | check the pipes props | 16:53 |
| knittl | libasound2-plugins in update | 16:54 |
| knittl | \*/ | 16:54 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_remote: it's all 100% | 16:55 |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, where is the pipes? | 16:55 |
| alex_mayorga | do I need to restart something? | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | if it is LOW increase it | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo_remote | on karmic I used to get ass low as 10% | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_remote | or as high as 400% | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_remote | it was weird | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its way better (until) now | 16:56 |
| knittl | alsamixer is working again | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I can't test | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I can't open new windows until reboot | 16:57 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I'm amazed as I'm the only one with that | 16:57 |
| kklimonda | :) | 16:57 |
| knittl | ok, sudo also force-reload after upgrading helps | 16:57 |
| ppine | knittl: u got sound ? | 16:58 |
| knittl | but speakers in alsamixer are now muted again -.- | 16:58 |
| jemark | ok, i will do that | 16:58 |
| knittl | ppine: hell yeah :D | 16:58 |
| ppine | Good me next :P | 16:58 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_remote: that's pulse audio volume control, right? | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo_remote | correct | 16:58 |
| alex_mayorga | how do I make it 400% | 16:59 |
| ppine | knittl: how did u get sound again? | 16:59 |
| knittl | hm yap, seems like a regression that was already fixed once | 17:00 |
| knittl | ppine: apt-get upgrade (libasound2-plugins) | 17:00 |
| knittl | then alsa force-reload | 17:00 |
| knittl | alsamixer and crank up the speaker volume | 17:00 |
| knittl | volume of speakers is reset when pulseaudio restarts | 17:00 |
| alex_mayorga | BUGabundo_remote: I don't think I have pulse as the volume meter doesn't move :S | 17:01 |
| jemark | fixed here too! | 17:01 |
| jemark | yaah | 17:01 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl, jemark: mind a step by step? | 17:01 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, ok, here you go. | 17:02 |
| knittl | but i don't like this muting issue … | 17:02 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade (for the few new updates) | 17:02 |
| jemark | knittl, my sounds works again | 17:02 |
| ppine | not working for me | 17:03 |
| knittl | mine too | 17:03 |
| ppine | no new updates neither | 17:03 |
| knittl | but when restarting pulseaudio speaker volume is set to 0 | 17:03 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: on it | 17:03 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, did you get some updates? | 17:03 |
| ppine | did you all install that paman thing ? | 17:03 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: bear with me, slow interwebs :( | 17:03 |
| ppine | gtg | 17:03 |
| jemark | ppine, yes, i did and then after the update forced the alsa thing then reset the sound level in paman | 17:04 |
| jemark | works ok now | 17:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | jemark: use aptitude safe-upgrade instead | 17:04 |
| * BUGabundo_remote goes for another round of updates | 17:05 | |
| jemark | BUGabundo_remote, i don't use aptitude and apt-get together ;) | 17:05 |
| kklimonda | yeah, I got sound too - but now rhythmbox is using 33% of my cpu | 17:05 |
| kklimonda | and makes X use other 33% | 17:05 |
| jemark | kklimonda, yes, me too! :( | 17:05 |
| jemark | sound but heavy cpu load :( | 17:06 |
| kklimonda | it may be somehow related to the new gtk+ update | 17:07 |
| jemark | kklimonda, i don't like the high cpu load now | 17:07 |
| jemark | this this: sof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mark/.gvfs | 17:09 |
| jemark | Output information may be incomplete. | 17:09 |
| jemark | Terminating processes: 4535lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mark/.gvfs | 17:09 |
| jemark | Output information may be incomplete. | 17:09 |
| jemark | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mark/.gvfs | 17:09 |
| jemark | Output information may be incomplete. | 17:09 |
| jemark | . | 17:09 |
| jemark | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mark/.gvfs | 17:09 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: updates pulled | 17:09 |
| jemark | Output information may be incomplete. | 17:09 |
| kklimonda | yeah, related to gtk+ | 17:09 |
| alex_mayorga | for the record I never lost sound entirely | 17:09 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, ok, do sudo alsa force-reload | 17:09 |
| alex_mayorga | just to faint on the speakers | 17:10 |
| knittl | why does my cpu not scale when load is higher than 1 or 2? | 17:10 |
| knittl | that seems to be the issue, normally it scales perfectly, but if load goes to high it stays where it is :-/ | 17:10 |
| knittl | and that makes things even slower and the load higher | 17:10 |
| jemark | oh no | 17:11 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: done, that took firefox with it, is that normal and crashed indicator-sound :( | 17:11 |
| jemark | i will reboot to make sure | 17:11 |
| knittl | alex_mayorga: yep, that happened here too | 17:11 |
| jemark | alex_mayorga, does the sound work now? | 17:11 |
| h00k | The new GDM is beautiful. | 17:11 |
| knittl | now start alsamixer and set your volume | 17:12 |
| jemark | yep | 17:12 |
| knittl | h00k: new gdm? how new? | 17:12 |
| h00k | knittl: new as in the userlist is now movable | 17:12 |
| alex_mayorga | jemark: let me log-off/on just in case | 17:12 |
| h00k | and it looks a little different | 17:12 |
| knittl | hm, haven't seen it then, yet | 17:12 |
| h00k | knittl: I just restarted, it's pretty slick. | 17:13 |
| knittl | ok, i'll do that tomorrow :D | 17:13 |
| alex_mayorga | still no/faint sound from the laptop speakers | 17:17 |
| knittl | alex_mayorga: have you started alsamixer? | 17:17 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl: I restarted, FWIW | 17:17 |
| knittl | alex_mayorga: ok, then it's a sign pulse is resetting speaker volume again | 17:18 |
| knittl | start alsamixer | 17:18 |
| knittl | you will see speaker volume set to 0 | 17:18 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl: on a terminal | 17:18 |
| alex_mayorga | I see Maste is 0 | 17:18 |
| knittl | ok master is the volume controlled by volume keys | 17:19 |
| alex_mayorga | If I move it up, I can hear sound from the speakers | 17:20 |
| jemark | knittl, still high cpu load after reboot and rhythmbox | 17:20 |
| knittl | jemark: i don't have much higher cpu usage than usual | 17:20 |
| knittl | and my usage comes from virtualbox i guess | 17:20 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl: do I crank Mater all the way to 100? | 17:20 |
| jemark | knittl, but you had a high cpu usage right after it? | 17:20 |
| knittl | master is the normal volume | 17:21 |
| knittl | jemark: no, basically the same | 17:21 |
| jemark | strange | 17:21 |
| knittl | it's ~10 % | 17:22 |
| jemark | 30 here | 17:22 |
| knittl | but that's for days now | 17:22 |
| jemark | i see | 17:22 |
| jemark | i will open de dvb-t (me-tv) | 17:23 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl: so I'll need to up Master on alsamixer on every reboot | 17:23 |
| knittl | alex_mayorga: maybe | 17:24 |
| alex_mayorga | knittl: thanks, at least there's sound now | 17:24 |
| alex_mayorga | does anyone know the bug for this? | 17:24 |
| jemark | i disabled some plugin and now the cpu is 4 | 17:24 |
| jemark | and xorg is 1% | 17:26 |
| jemark | knittl, so solved ;) | 17:26 |
| kklimonda | jemark: what plugin? | 17:26 |
| jemark | kklimonda, all | 17:27 |
| knittl | hm ok | 17:27 |
| knittl | i don't have any plugins | 17:27 |
| knittl | wait … that's strange | 17:27 |
| knittl | there should be | 17:27 |
| jemark | yes | 17:27 |
| knittl | oh | 17:27 |
| knittl | crap | 17:27 |
| knittl | no scrobbles since yesterday | 17:27 |
| kklimonda | jemark: rhythmbox plugins? | 17:27 |
| knittl | what happened to my plugins? oO | 17:28 |
| jemark | i suppose virtualisation? | 17:28 |
| jemark | im happy the sound is back | 17:28 |
| kklimonda | jemark: didn't help here | 17:28 |
| knittl | virtualisation? wth? | 17:28 |
| kklimonda | it's probably a gtk+ issue - devs are working on it already | 17:29 |
| knittl | ok | 17:30 |
| knittl | just wondering :) | 17:30 |
| jemark | kklimonda, well my cpu is only 4% now with rhytmbox ;) | 17:32 |
| jemark | oh no! it's again 33% | 17:33 |
| alex_mayorga | talking about rhytmbox, are other last.fm like streaming services that work | 17:34 |
| jemark | sorry guys | 17:34 |
| kklimonda | jemark: it drops to normal value if you close window to the tray | 17:35 |
| jemark | kklimonda, i will check that now | 17:35 |
| knittl | i don't have rhythmbox in tray since yesterday | 17:36 |
| jemark | kklimonda, yes! | 17:36 |
| jemark | kklimonda, thanks | 17:36 |
| knittl | related to missing plugins? | 17:36 |
| jemark | 5% now | 17:36 |
| jemark | no | 17:36 |
| jemark | kklimonda, not related to plugins after all | 17:37 |
| kklimonda | knittl: Status Icon plugin is responsible for displaying it | 17:37 |
| kklimonda | knittl: but it has been ported over to the indicator-application some time ago | 17:37 |
| knittl | kklimonda: ok, where do i get it if it's missing? | 17:37 |
| knittl | i don't have any plugins in my list | 17:37 |
| kklimonda | so make sure you have it added to your applet | 17:37 |
| kklimonda | knittl: hmm.. | 17:37 |
| knittl | "scrobbling" for nothing … | 17:37 |
| jemark | still wondering why the cpu is so high when I open rhythmbox (not playing in the tray) | 17:38 |
| kklimonda | knittl: you have rhythmbox-plugins installed? | 17:38 |
| om26er | bye ubottu | 17:39 |
| knittl | kklimonda: dunno, but i should have | 17:39 |
| knittl | i did not uninstall them | 17:39 |
| knittl | didn't know there was a package for that … | 17:39 |
| zniavre | something went wrong with window decorations no ? | 17:40 |
| knittl | State: not installed | 17:40 |
| knittl | k, there's the problem | 17:40 |
| kklimonda | zniavre: maybe - we got a new gtk+ with client-side-decorations patches | 17:42 |
| knittl | strange, why were my plugins missing? | 17:42 |
| zniavre | the gdm logon window get decoration and you can move this login window | 17:43 |
| zniavre | i guess it's not "normal" behaviour | 17:43 |
| zniavre | and my xorg eating 75% cpu | 17:44 |
| knittl | ok, now rhythmbox eats cpu too | 17:44 |
| zniavre | mmm we updated too early ... | 17:44 |
| razertek | i just upgraded to alpha 3 from karmic 64...didnt stop to think when i was installing new raedon drivers from ati =/ now i can not load x how do i remove and refressh my xorg.xonf or whatever...revert back? | 17:51 |
| ZykoticK9 | I thought Alpha 3 was suppose to be released in 7 days? | 17:54 |
| kklimonda | it is | 17:58 |
| Zer | Howdy. I've noticed since upgrading to 10.04 that there's a little textbox that just arbitrarily pops up here and there and takes text in, but seems to do nothing. There's no real pattern to it. Is it some accessibility feature I am accidentally triggering or what? | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo_remote | why do ppl come here report probs with very little detail, and leave after 2 min ? | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Zer: never seen it | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo_remote | what DE ? | 18:02 |
| Zer | DE? | 18:03 |
| Zer | If you mean environment, Gnome | 18:03 |
| Zer | It's just a tiny textbox, about an inch wide. And it pops up and gets in the way of my normal typing and screws up focus, but otherwise has no function I can see | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ok | 18:04 |
| Ian_Corne | Zer: that's a very primitive keylogger :p | 18:04 |
| Zer | hehehe | 18:05 |
| Zer | Really. Ubuntu 10.04 with built in keylogging eh ? :) | 18:05 |
| Ian_Corne | yeah! | 18:05 |
| Ian_Corne | extra flavors | 18:05 |
| Zer | Finally getting ahead of the commercial environments | 18:05 |
| Ian_Corne | :p | 18:05 |
| Zer | They won't be doing that for three or four years now :) | 18:05 |
| razertek | i wasnt thinking and downloaded the drivers from ati...when i know they are prerelease in alpha3 and broke my x...how do i revert back | 18:06 |
| JoshuaL | uninstall them? | 18:06 |
| razertek | yes | 18:06 |
| razertek | i do not want to have to reinstall karmic then upgrade to lucid alpha 3 again | 18:07 |
| JoshuaL | uninstall the ati drivers and reconfigure x? | 18:07 |
| razertek | what is the reconfigure syntax for lucid? | 18:08 |
| razertek | !google reconfigure x syntax for lucid | 18:10 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:10 |
| JoshuaL | dpkg-reconfigure packagename | 18:10 |
| JoshuaL | iirc | 18:10 |
| razertek | in this case the package name would be? xorg-driver-fglrx or xserver-xorg-core? | 18:11 |
| razertek | or just X? | 18:11 |
| JoshuaL | you can try the xorg-driver-fglrx | 18:12 |
| razertek | joshuaL,thanks...will give it a shot | 18:12 |
| g0rilla | anyone able to assist? | 18:13 |
| g0rilla | lucid alpha2 suffering no sound? no resolution so far? | 18:14 |
| g0rilla | purged alsa & pulseaudio & reinstalled | 18:14 |
| g0rilla | pkill no help | 18:14 |
| g0rilla | all levels AOK just no output from speakers | 18:15 |
| knittl | g0rilla: wait for updates | 18:15 |
| ZykoticK9 | g0rilla, has the sound ever worked? or did this just start happening? | 18:15 |
| knittl | or have a look in alsamixer | 18:15 |
| g0rilla | worked fine, happened since update | 18:15 |
| g0rilla | alamixer no go, checked all outputs ok | 18:16 |
| g0rilla | its mythed me so far | 18:16 |
| knittl | g0rilla: /topic | 18:16 |
| knittl | wait for updates | 18:16 |
| ZykoticK9 | g0rilla, lol - i reinstalled cause i lost sound and couldn't fix it :(... My luck with Lucid finally ran out. | 18:16 |
| knittl | it's already fixed | 18:16 |
| g0rilla | knittl, u sure?? | 18:17 |
| g0rilla | patience will be a virtue on this one then | 18:17 |
| * rye updates to the latest packages, pulseaudio is among them.... will see whether I can hear after the updates. | 18:18 | |
| knittl | yep i'm sure, i installed the updates, and sound is working again (apart from a few alsamixer glitches) | 18:18 |
| Andre_Gondim | my last update crash my search engine on firefox | 18:31 |
| alex_mayorga | Andre_Gondim: read the topic, and update again | 18:33 |
| Andre_Gondim | alex_mayorga, many thanks | 18:33 |
| ripps | I don't understand, if backporting linux 2.6.33 drm to 2.6.32 is so difficult, why doesn't ubuntu pull 2.6.33 entirely? It must be much easier than the headache of picking and choosing patches. | 18:45 |
| alex_mayorga | ripps: I agree | 18:46 |
| Oli`` | 2.6.33 would be so much better. Especially for SSD users (.33 has finally ATA TRIM support) | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | i wonder if they will backport the HDA fixes too... my sound is unusable without them | 18:46 |
| rye | alsamixer | 18:48 |
| rye | ALSA lib conf.c:3272:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so | 18:48 |
| rye | ls: cannot access /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so: No such file or directory | 18:48 |
| rye | hm... :) | 18:48 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | is there any way to downgrade from lucid to karmic? | 18:48 |
| rye | I: (alsa-lib)conf.c: Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so | 18:50 |
| rye | I: (alsa-lib)pcm.c: Unknown PCM hw:0 | 18:50 |
| arand | !downgrade | Hellmark[S10e] | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Hellmark[S10e]: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. | 18:51 |
| rye | it looks like someone stole module so that's why sound is broken | 18:51 |
| arand | Hellmark[S10e]: Even more so from lucid :/ | 18:51 |
| kklimonda | rye: wait for an update - it's a known issue | 18:51 |
| rye | kklimonda, do you have the bugreport #? | 18:51 |
| * rye forgot that he can search launchpad... | 18:51 | |
| DanaG | aargh, is it a FEATURE that nm-applet sends notifications of "Wired Network" disconnected.. instead of saying WHAT network? | 18:52 |
| rye | YAHOO SEARCH? o_O | 18:52 |
| kklimonda | rye: the main report that this bug is related to is bug 523716 | 18:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 523716 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio version defined as UNKNOWN, which breaks everything with build-dep on libpulse-dev" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523716 | 18:52 |
| DanaG | On connect notification, it says "Auto eth0" connected, or "auto usb0" | 18:52 |
| DanaG | disconnect: just | 18:53 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | arand, damn | 18:53 |
| DanaG | "Wired Network" | 18:53 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | because lucid broke my system. | 18:53 |
| DanaG | argh! | 18:53 |
| rye | Hellmark[S10e], how did it break? | 18:53 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | rye, fire up KDE, and after a few minutes, 10 at the most, it stops accepting all input from keyboard and mouse. | 18:54 |
| * Blues-Man hi all | 18:54 | |
| Andre_Gondim | my gwibber don't display any update from twitter and identi.ca either | 18:54 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | apps are still running, network connections appear to be maintained | 18:55 |
| arand | rye: making the browser search worse will make ubuntu better ;D | 18:55 |
| rye | Andre_Gondim, it does not display the notifications or there is nothing in the main window? | 18:55 |
| Andre_Gondim | rye, no display nothing in the main windows | 18:55 |
| rye | Hellmark[S10e], grr... need to persuade my wife to upgrade to Lucid to test. She's devoted KDE user... | 18:55 |
| tenpenny | hi | 18:56 |
| tenpenny | 9.10 vs 10.04 any performance improvement ? | 18:56 |
| rye | Andre_Gondim, you might want to run PPA version, that's where fixes are being appied | 18:56 |
| Andre_Gondim | rye, do you know the gwibber ppa to tell me? | 18:57 |
| rye | Andre_Gondim, https://launchpad.net/~gwibber-daily/+archive/ppa | 18:57 |
| Andre_Gondim | many thanks rye | 18:57 |
| arand | tenpenny: boot should be seeing considerable improvements at least.. | 18:57 |
| tenpenny | arand: nice | 18:58 |
| tenpenny | arand: and base architecture ? | 18:58 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | rye, I take it that you don't want a happy household? | 18:58 |
| arand | tenpenny: I do not know. | 18:58 |
| tenpenny | arand: ok | 18:58 |
| g0rilla | i love ubuuuuuuuuuuuntu! | 19:00 |
| Hellmark[S10e] | g0rilla, that's good for you | 19:00 |
| g0rilla | problem arises and suddenly people from all over the world come together to fix it | 19:01 |
| g0rilla | if only everything worked like that! | 19:02 |
| knittl | i love u…buntu | 19:02 |
| tenpenny | i have tried to change priority for an app, and it seems like it is taking forever to implement | 19:06 |
| rye | tenpenny,underlying architecture for boot process now resembles architecture and not the set of scripts simply tied together with a duct tape, so yes, there are changes... | 19:06 |
| tenpenny | infact gdm is unresponsive | 19:07 |
| rye | tenpenny, you mean that it does not react to mouse and keyboard? | 19:08 |
| tenpenny | rye: all windows are colorless | 19:08 |
| rye | tenpenny, does it allow you to switch to VT ? | 19:08 |
| rye | * other vt | 19:09 |
| tenpenny | rye: what m i suppose to kill now ? system-monitor ? | 19:09 |
| Andre_Gondim | my empathy don't connect with msn, just gtalk, does any one knows about it? | 19:10 |
| rye | tenpenny, i don't think I follow you - the window are colorless on boot? What exactly colorless mean in this context? | 19:10 |
| tenpenny | rye: tried to change priority for an app by clicking and selecting the app from system-montor | 19:11 |
| tenpenny | rye: system-monitor window and other application windows are all white | 19:12 |
| tenpenny | rye: means i cann't see n e thing but can see the container "rectangeles" | 19:12 |
| rye | tenpenny, that basically means that the apps hanged and do not repaint their windows | 19:13 |
| tenpenny | rye: yes | 19:13 |
| rye | just updated the priority via system monitor, looks like it worked | 19:13 |
| rye | tenpenny, what app you were trying to 'nice' ? | 19:13 |
| tenpenny | rye: vbox | 19:13 |
| rye | tenpenny, are you sure it happened right when you updated the nice value of vbox? | 19:14 |
| tenpenny | rye: what need to be done to repaint all windows ? | 19:14 |
| tenpenny | rye: yes | 19:14 |
| rye | tenpenny, xrefresh is the app, but I don't think it would help. Are you able to start processes via gnome run, i.e. Alt+F2, etc? | 19:16 |
| tenpenny | rye: i can alt+f7 and see white rectangle | 19:18 |
| rye | tenpenny, ah, you are running compiz, right ? | 19:18 |
| tenpenny | rye: compiz yes | 19:19 |
| tenpenny | rye: shall i kill compiz ? | 19:19 |
| rye | tenpenny, i believe you can do alt+f2 and blindly type gnome-terminal and another white rectangle will pop-up, could you please try this ? | 19:19 |
| tenpenny | rye: mouse icon is changed to processing state and everything is unselectable | 19:20 |
| rye | tenpenny, you may try killing compiz, but in my case metacity did not overtake the window management | 19:21 |
| tenpenny | rye: lemme try | 19:22 |
| rye | heh, the bug 523716 is still goes on | 19:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 523716 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio version defined as UNKNOWN, which breaks everything with build-dep on libpulse-dev" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523716 | 19:23 |
| rye | i.e. it is still not fixed | 19:23 |
| rye | hm, my xchat became slow after restart | 19:25 |
| jemark | sound works here | 19:25 |
| rye | xchat - stat64("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2057, ...}) = 0 - keeps statting the file | 19:26 |
| rye | jemark, yep, until you upgrade :) | 19:26 |
| jemark | i did | 19:26 |
| g0rilla | still no sound with new updates | 19:26 |
| tenpenny | rye: thanks got it | 19:26 |
| jemark | i've updated | 19:27 |
| tenpenny | rye: gnome-system-monitor was stuck. killing it solved problem | 19:27 |
| rye | jemark, are you using the official archive or the mirror? | 19:27 |
| jemark | to the latest updates, then it works again after alsamixes and put everything 100% | 19:27 |
| jemark | main | 19:27 |
| rye | tenpenny, ah, ok then. | 19:28 |
| jemark | official main repo | 19:28 |
| rye | jemark, hm, ok, let me switch... | 19:28 |
| jemark | pl | 19:28 |
| jemark | ok | 19:28 |
| tenpenny | ok thx, bye | 19:28 |
| jemark | bye | 19:28 |
| rye | jemark, thanks | 19:29 |
| jemark | it works now? | 19:29 |
| jemark | yw | 19:30 |
| rye | jemark, switching... | 19:30 |
| jemark | ok, let me know | 19:30 |
| jemark | i had the same issue a few hours ago | 19:30 |
| rye | i wonder what broke xchat now, it is furiously stat()ing /etc/localtime... | 19:30 |
| jemark | strange | 19:30 |
| g0rilla | running main repo, all alsamixer levels at 100%, why-oh why is my sound no working | 19:30 |
| robin0800 | what's wrong with sound today? | 19:31 |
| jemark | i use xchat-gnome | 19:31 |
| jemark | g0rilla, do sudo alsa force-reload | 19:32 |
| g0rilla | all kindsa warnings | 19:33 |
| g0rilla | wait a min sound indicator suddenly muted | 19:33 |
| rye | g0rilla, alsamixer -c0 | 19:35 |
| g0rilla | levels are fine but indicator still showing muted | 19:36 |
| rye | g0rilla, are you sure that the underlying alsa device is not muted? | 19:36 |
| jemark | rye, sound is working again? | 19:37 |
| rye | jemark, yes, it does but indicator applet for sound shows 3 different main sound levels | 19:38 |
| g0rilla | i swear on my lil pinkie | 19:38 |
| jemark | rye, what do u mean? 3 level in one applet? | 19:39 |
| g0rilla | this is wierd ,indicator shows muted, but preferences showing not muted volume 100% | 19:39 |
| rye | jemark, yes, and every has its own 'Sound Preferences' | 19:39 |
| ZykoticK9 | songbird-daily PPA doesn't seem to provide songbird? Software Sources lists the PPA, but "apt-cache search songbird" is only showing pidgin-musictracker. I have run "sudo apt-get update" after adding PPA. Installing Skyzim's DEB suggested in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird seems to work fine. Anyone successfully using the songbird-daily under Lucid? | 19:39 |
| jemark | try to run paman | 19:40 |
| robin0800 | rye can't un mute sound from laptop button although software says it works hence no sound | 19:40 |
| g0rilla | paman | 19:40 |
| rye | i guess applet needs to be restarted | 19:40 |
| jemark | reboot to make sure ;) | 19:41 |
| rye | jemark, heeey, no reboots until it is completely broken :) | 19:42 |
| rye | jemark, ok, removal and re-add of indicator applet service fixed duplicating volume meters | 19:42 |
| jemark | :) | 19:42 |
| jemark | how did u add it actually? ;) | 19:43 |
| rye | jemark, volume control is now indicator, so I had to remove and re-add indicator-applet | 19:43 |
| rye | to the panel | 19:43 |
| jemark | gnome-volume-control-applet | 19:44 |
| rye | jemark, nope, it is no longer an applet | 19:44 |
| jemark | indicator applet... | 19:44 |
| g0rilla | no success after reboot, alsa force-reload gives "lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/g0rilla/.gvfs | 19:45 |
| g0rilla | " | 19:45 |
| jemark | which command is it? i've added it with gnome-volume-control-applet | 19:45 |
| rye | jemark, you just need to have indicator applet on your panel, the same that shows the message count for evolution, xchat IRC messages (w/ xchat-indicator), etc | 19:47 |
| jemark | indicator-sound?? | 19:47 |
| jemark | but doesn't show the sound | 19:47 |
| rye | jemark, ok, do you have the envelope icon in your panel? | 19:48 |
| jemark | yep | 19:48 |
| robin0800 | rye still cant get my mute button off it comes on somtime during boot | 19:48 |
| rye | jemark, then you will have the indicator applet for the sound | 19:48 |
| jemark | yep | 19:49 |
| g0rilla | i'm all alone, there's noone listening to me!!! lol | 19:49 |
| jemark | rye, i have this one :gnome-volume-control-applet | 19:49 |
| robin0800 | g0rilla: I have the same problem as you its something that got changed today | 19:50 |
| rye | robin0800, i believe for the sound issue we will need to wait a day or two, however I am not really sure I am following you | 19:50 |
| rye | robin0800, not all mirrors are updated at the same time | 19:50 |
| robin0800 | rye: there's been changes twice today at least | 19:51 |
| DanaG | hmm | 19:56 |
| g0rilla | so to get this straight in my head | 19:57 |
| g0rilla | for some people sound is now working | 19:57 |
| g0rilla | but for my setup is not | 19:57 |
| g0rilla | best approach is give up and try again in few days | 19:57 |
| g0rilla | yay or nay? | 19:57 |
| jemark | try paman | 19:59 |
| DanaG | I think I may have figured out why my readahead was aborting: | 20:00 |
| DanaG | My Pictures dir is a symlink to my ntfs partition.... and my wallpaper comes from that place. | 20:00 |
| DanaG | It seems ureadahead doesn't like symlinks, perhaps? | 20:00 |
| jemark | g0rilla, i will be back soon, sound should be ok for you later | 20:01 |
| razertek | hi | 20:11 |
| rye | ok, I guess I need to restart xchat - it just eats all my cpu | 20:12 |
| razertek | anyone know how to revert back after downloading and installing the new ati drivers...i wasnt thinking when i put them on here that the new alpha 3 would have a prerelease | 20:12 |
| DanaG | razertek: depends how you installed the official ones. | 20:14 |
| rye | no, xchat is definitely broken | 20:14 |
| DanaG | oh, and IS there a new prerelease catalyst? | 20:14 |
| razertek | DanaG: i downloaded the run file and ran it after a chmod using ./ | 20:14 |
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| DanaG | Ah, note for future reference: do ati-driver-installer.sh --buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic, or such. | 20:15 |
| DanaG | It'll build packages. | 20:16 |
| DanaG | Anyway, for now, I believe the uninstaller may be in /etc/ati. | 20:16 |
| stdisease | When updating the apt database do I always have to fetch the whole thing? | 20:16 |
| stdisease | DanaG, if it uninstalls cleanly it's worth a shot | 20:16 |
| stdisease | Next on my todo | 20:17 |
| razertek | DanaG: where is the installer.sh at? | 20:17 |
| DanaG | er, the installer is the thing you downloaded and ran; that's for future reference. | 20:20 |
| DanaG | the UNinstaller.. is likely in /etc/ati or /etc/amd | 20:20 |
| razertek | DanaG: no luck =/ | 20:24 |
| DanaG | hmm, maybe /usr/share/ati ? | 20:24 |
| stdisease | look maybe under /opt or /usr/local or or | 20:25 |
| razertek | DanaG: they do make an installer? | 20:25 |
| razertek | i mean uninstaller? | 20:25 |
| DanaG | Yeah, I just don't remember where it is. | 20:25 |
| DanaG | I normally do my installs themselves, via the buildpkg thingy. | 20:25 |
| stdisease | It's been a while since I last used the ATI driver but I believe they do ship an uninstaller utility as well. NVIDIA surely do. | 20:26 |
| razertek | well i was reading on the release wiki ... about running the cmd... apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx ...did this break a lot on my system? | 20:26 |
| arand | razertek: If it is called "uninstallsomething": " find / 2>/dev/null | grep uninstall " | 20:26 |
| DanaG | nvidia's installer is their uninstaller. | 20:26 |
| razertek | arand: k ty | 20:27 |
| rabbi1 | can't wait for lucid, shld i try the beta version ? | 20:28 |
| ZykoticK9 | rabbi1, if you're comfortable with breakages (check Topic right now for some examples) and/or want to report Bugs to help out. | 20:29 |
| rabbi1 | ZykoticK9: thx. but already if i am caught in LAMP and other stuffs, figuring all this out ;) | 20:30 |
| rabbi1 | ZykoticK9: i have AMD64 nVidia in built, i took lot of time solving my resolution issue itself, and finally it was a simple conf job to do. | 20:31 |
| bjsnider | rabbi1, you're caught in a lamp? that sounds painful | 20:38 |
| rabbi1 | bjsnider: ;) i don mind, learning a lot as new user | 20:39 |
| rabbi1 | actually this is 7th time i am installing AMP | 20:40 |
| Crashbit | crashbit@m1330:~$ grep \(EE\) /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. | 20:50 |
| Crashbit | (EE) [drm] failed to open device | 20:50 |
| Crashbit | (EE) No devices detected. | 20:50 |
| Crashbit | mm | 20:50 |
| Crashbit | crashbit@m1330:~$ cat /proc/fb | 20:51 |
| Crashbit | 0 nouveaufb | 20:51 |
| Crashbit | ups, sorry | 20:51 |
| dupondje | hmm, I don't have volume button anymore in taskbar .. any idea how to get that back ? :) | 20:52 |
| Crashbit | mm install indicator-applet | 20:52 |
| Crashbit | and add the applet to a gnome-panel | 20:53 |
| dupondje | its installed | 20:54 |
| dupondje | ii indicator-sound 0.1.1-0ubuntu2 A system sound indicator. | 20:54 |
| dupondje | is also installed | 20:54 |
| dupondje | but there is nothing when I add .. :s | 20:54 |
| Crashbit | dupondje: indicator-applet | 20:55 |
| dupondje | ii indicator-applet 0.3.2-0ubuntu3 GNOME panel indicator applet | 20:55 |
| dupondje | is also installed ... :) | 20:55 |
| Crashbit | ok, add indicator-applet to gnome-panel | 20:56 |
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| === AlanBell_ is now known as AlanBell | ||
| dupondje | hmz ok :p | 20:57 |
| dupondje | found it now | 20:57 |
| dupondje | thx Crashbit | 20:57 |
| DanaG | mm: command not found | 20:58 |
| DanaG | =þ | 20:58 |
| DanaG | Joking, of course. | 20:58 |
| Crashbit | DanaG: :) | 21:02 |
| g0rilla | quick question? | 21:05 |
| g0rilla | i'm having sound issues, topic mentions new pulseaudio & alsa plugins | 21:05 |
| dupondje | so ?:) | 21:05 |
| g0rilla | is it strange that i don't have alsa-plugins | 21:06 |
| dupondje | no, don't have it neither :D | 21:06 |
| JoshuaL | g0rilla, wait for updates? | 21:06 |
| g0rilla | yes josh, soz, just impatient | 21:06 |
| === AlanBell is now known as AlanChicken | ||
| === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell | ||
| dupondje | why do we use alpha versions :) yep because we are impatient for new versions :D | 21:08 |
| === knumba is now known as DasEi | ||
| BUGabundo | humm | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | so no sound yet? | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | :p | 21:29 |
| stdisease | Alsamixer is working for me again, after latest updates | 21:31 |
| Crashbit | mm nouveau not working for me | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | Crashbit: wfm | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | just kills GDM | 21:34 |
| RAOF | That's not a ringing endorsement! | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | RAOF: for that last two days I've been like this | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | boots ok, but once on GDM, I get horizontal green bars | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | I stop GDM, and some how it just autologins | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | I _think_ there are *two* GDMs starting or something | 21:42 |
| stdisease | Im having strange behaviors with gdm as well | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | not the kind it freezes on Enter, righrt? | 21:46 |
| BUGabundo | cause that one is well known | 21:46 |
| stdisease | nope on startups and service manipulations | 21:47 |
| ni1s | hey all | 21:56 |
| stdisease | ni1s, although in my case I pressed the 'Update installer' button at the beginning of the install | 21:56 |
| ni1s | stdisease, oooooohh, I though it meant "... to use this language" | 21:58 |
| ni1s | silly me | 21:58 |
| stdisease | aah | 21:59 |
| ni1s | Is there a way to start the "alternative" installer on the Live iso? | 22:02 |
| Machtin | resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink <- i deleted that link.. could anyone tell me where it's supposed to point or how to create it? | 22:10 |
| Machtin | oh, i think i know - except it's not /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf | 22:14 |
| cjohnston | Anyone else have sound die with todays upgrade? | 22:16 |
| dupondje | is there a way to make a list of files on a system that arent provided by any package ? | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | nice page https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/powerpc/hardware-supported.html | 22:45 |
| rr72 | hey guys, i need some help, when I upgrade i get an error aobut sbin/ldconfig.real: File /usr/lib/libgweather.so.1 is empty | 22:55 |
| rr72 | i have no where to start looking for what it means, google doesn't come up with much | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | rr72: prob corrupt install | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | debsum should help you out | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | and then reinstall the offending package | 22:57 |
| rr72 | how do i know what the offending pacakge is? that's my question | 22:57 |
| rr72 | how do i reinstall a package w/o having to uninstall all the deps? | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | rr72: debsum will complain | 22:59 |
| alkisg | I have 2 keyboard layouts (us/gr). When I login with an English interface, I can see a language indicator in the panel. When I login with Greek UI, I can see an empty space in that place. Which package is that, so that I can seach why the icon is missing with the Greek UI? | 22:59 |
| rr72 | /sbin/ldconfig.real: File /usr/lib/libgweather.so.1 is empty, not checked. | 23:00 |
| rr72 | BUGabundo~ what is debsum? | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | !info debsum | 23:04 |
| ubottu | Package debsum does not exist in lucid | 23:05 |
| cef | anyone got a suggestion for getting past Bug #514012 when upgrading from karmic to lucid (server, no X)? | 23:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 514012 in mountall "cyclic dependency between mountall and libplymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514012 | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | !info debsums | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | do I need to kick the bot again? | 23:10 |
| ubottu | debsums (source: debsums): tool for verification of installed package files against MD5 checksums. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.48 (lucid), package size 47 kB, installed size 268 kB | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | blu | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | rr72: ^^^^ | 23:10 |
| alkisg | Ah, got it, "gnome-settings-daemon". | 23:22 |
| alkisg | Apparently it isn't utf-8 aware for the layout names | 23:22 |
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| ripps | Is there a program to find out which packages are taking up the most disk space? | 23:37 |
| arand | ripps: pick and choose: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3842/list-your-largest-installed-packages-on-debianubuntu | 23:45 |
| ppine | Still no sound after the updates :( | 23:48 |
| ripps | arand: awesome, thanks | 23:49 |
| robin0800 | ppine: nor me join the club | 23:51 |
| ppine | robin0800: some people did get it working. | 23:53 |
| ppine | What, now Evolution also isnt working anymore :( | 23:53 |
| ppine | ** (evolution:1919): DEBUG: Number of email accounts: 1 | 23:53 |
| ppine | ** (evolution:1919): DEBUG: EI: SHELL STARTUP | 23:53 |
| ppine | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 23:53 |
| RAOF | Yeah, everything that adds an indicator to indicator applet will crash at the moment. | 23:53 |
| robin0800 | ppine: how? | 23:53 |
| ppine | dont now, i just rebooted and now evolution is not working anymore. | 23:55 |
| ppine | major let downs, i understand its a development release and all but ey. | 23:57 |
| cef | Any ideas on how to get past Bug #514012 when upgrading from karmic to lucid (server, no X)? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? | 23:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 514012 in mountall "cyclic dependency between mountall and libplymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514012 | 23:58 |
| o_portista17 | does anyone with lucid and ati, has problems with the screen/xorg ? | 23:58 |
| robin0800 | any one know how to get sound working today? | 23:59 |
| hemant | Hi, I upgraded today to lucid lynx on my macbook pro | 23:59 |
| hemant | since the upgrade I am not able to use my keyboard on the login screen. | 23:59 |
| hemant | I am also not able to use my extended monitor. | 23:59 |
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