=== maxb_ is now known as maxb [00:51] amarok: Depends: amarok-common (= 2:2.2.2-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [00:51] Is amarok tottally screwed ATM? [00:54] BUGabundo: all works fine now, thanks for the help and hopes :) [00:54] np [00:54] and sorry for my English :) [02:45] hey all [02:45] anyone here have any luck jailbreaking an ipod touch in lucid yet?\ [03:28] Anyone having an issue with the address bar in Firefox just recently? [03:37] does Kubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Daily Build includes to kde 4.4 ? === Guest45054 is now known as celthunder [03:49] <[Adam|Miner]> When trying to go to Lucid, I get the popup "Unable to get exclusive lock" in Ubuntu, how do I get it to upgrade? [03:50] you not running as sudo [03:50] <[Adam|Miner]> And how do I? [03:50] :) i guess i could have told you that in #ubuntu but lucid support is here [03:51] type sudo before your command === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support and discussion channel | Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Milestones: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule | Alpha 2 released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 [03:51] and enter your password [03:51] <[Adam|Miner]> Okay thanks, I'm still a windows guy who's fed up at this point [03:52] <[Adam|Miner]> sudo update-manager -d right? [03:52] adam, I've been where you are a few weeks ago, including the "GOTO #ubuntu+1!!!" I've pretty much stopped posting in the forums. *shrug* it's still better [03:53] *than windoze [03:53] <[Adam|Miner]> I used to like windows untill the good ol "Bad battery" bug in windows 7 that would shut down my laptop while it's plugged in [03:53] [Adam|Miner], yes, that's the right command [03:54] you should read the release notes before upgrading though [03:54] might save you some hassle of asking repeated questions in here [03:54] hi, how fast is lucid booting? [03:54] adam, I did a fresh install going to Lucid, of course I was formatting from windows anyway [03:55] I get about 75s in karmic [03:55] I have tried #ubuntu for hours, I know this is lucid support but perhaps someone where could let me know why I am getting runlevel unknown on karmic, I have tried everything I can thing of [03:56] <[Adam|Miner]> Think I'll go with a fresh CD for now :/ not having the best of luck [03:56] <[Adam|Miner]> My current disc is 8.04 XD [03:57] what broadcom do you have? [03:57] <[Adam|Miner]> I know it is a Compaq C727US, not sure exactly what chip they put in it [03:58] my driver comes up as "Broadcom B43" ... hope it works for you [03:58] you know about turning the driver on? [04:00] !b43 [04:00] where [04:00] where's 'ze' bot? [04:00] oh, it PMs. [04:00] !info b43-fwcutter [04:01] !ubotto [04:01] b43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 1:012-1 (lucid), package size 17 kB, installed size 112 kB [04:03] so anyone in here recommend a GUI file find that would result in being able to drop a replacement file in the folder? [04:04] My FireFox is broke. Did any one else lose the ability to use FireFox [04:05] FYI, JACK has been approved to be promoted back into main, so pulseaudio will be shipping the jack source and sink in Lucid. [04:05] This is likely to ripple over to xine-lib and alsa-plugins, too. [04:06] ????????????????? [04:06] hello [04:07] any one here??? [04:08] !ask | pasjr [04:08] pasjr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:10] What Happened to FireFox? It broke [04:13] pasjr, let me see if mine breaks, I just got the latests updates BTW broke=??? [04:14] I can not enter http: add and go to it, can only go to what is bookmarked, and I have no search funtion [04:14] no start page either [04:21] movie player is saying it needs a plugin, requested plugin in "DVD subpicture decoder" and it's "No packages with the requested plug-in found" What are these plugins and where can I search/install them? DVD was created w/ Windows movie maker [04:25] * DanaG wonders if that pasjr just had to restart firefox. [04:45] My Firefox has the same problem. Restarting doesn’t help. [04:50] This is possibly bug 523569? It still seems weird that I can’t visit a URL in the address bar. [04:50] Launchpad bug 523569 in firefox "No search providers or default search provider in 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523569 [04:56] andersk: it's going to be fixed in ubuntu4 release [05:15] Yeah, 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 fixes it. [05:15] * alex_mayorga guesses he shouldn't have restarted Firefox [05:17] andersk, when's that coming out? [05:17] how does one get the firefox fix? [05:20] so it's aptitude install chromium time? [05:21] in my firefox I can use the homepage button. Went to Edit > Prefs and changed the homepage to google.com, and I can use google just fine. Clicking on links from here seems to work as well (e.g. the launchpad bug link) [05:24] grr.. why can't evolution support sieve.. [05:50] Are there any major bugs in Lucid which would make it a non-recommendable system? [05:50] As of now, I'm having some problems with karmic, such as 70s boot times, and app-armor failures most probably due to that i installed the 2.6.32 kernel [05:51] wolter: lucid alpha quality - you don't know when it's going to break [05:52] wolter: you may not even be able to boot it or login [05:52] oh [05:52] thanks for the feedback :P [05:52] wolter: it's not recommended for the main system [05:53] ok, then its not for me, thanks again [05:55] alex_mayorga: I got it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox . It’s already built for amd64, i386, and powerpc, but not uploaded yet. [05:57] is there a way to set a backup point so that if an update fubars things Lucid can be reinstalled at the previous point (as opposed to format, install and reconfigure)? [05:58] jage: no [06:02] well, full-partition backup might count. [06:03] jage: partimage/fsarchiver/dd === jage is now known as metricpiano [06:07] I wonder if a metric piano has 100 keys instead of 88 [06:07] using a virtual machine could help restoring a previous point [06:24] heh, I'd use yahoo search if it didn't look so cramped compared to google [06:25] even bing looks better [06:25] ya rekon itll change? [06:26] probably not [06:28] kklimonda try out another metacrawler.... one that searches goole yahoo and whatever else..... all in one [06:44] Trying to upgrade from Karmic to Lucid (Server install) using 'do-release-upgrade -d' and I get "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libplymouth2 for mountall, probably a dependency cycle." (Bug #514012 against mountall). Any suggestions to hard-force my way through this issue? [06:44] Launchpad bug 514012 in mountall "cyclic dependency between mountall and libplymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514012 [07:13] guys..any news on sun-java in the rpositories? [07:17] what do you mean? [07:17] sun-java was removed completely [07:17] :o [07:18] thats baaad [07:18] crimsun, I see that but many sites do not work with icedtea [07:18] and I have no interest in open java [07:18] will sun java be available though? [07:19] one finnish bank uses java for ebanking, it does not accept icedtea [07:19] not in the Ubuntu repository, no. [07:20] I can already hear the screams [07:20] crimsun, oo that may stop my use of lucid ...the only reason I switched to ubuntu when it came out from BeOs is sun java :( [07:20] * DanaG read that as: ubuntu came out from BeOS. [07:21] oh yeah, crimsun: I've been having lots of trouble getting "memblock.c: pool full" messages on that BeagleBoard. [07:21] manual install i guess :) [07:21] Will it be in partner? [07:22] DanaG: test 0ubuntu7 when it's built & available, please. [07:22] okay, shall do. [07:22] I've been streaming over cdc-ether from host to beagle, to onboard. [07:23] I also randomly suddenly started having to enable the "headset" sliders to get any audio. Boy, having that many sliders can be confusing. [07:26] oh yeah, and I forgot to enable ubuntu-audio-dev repo on the thing. === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [07:31] is it just my firefox that is broken? i can't go to urls [07:31] if i type them in manually [07:31] search box doesn't work either [07:32] never mind there's a newer package [07:32] virtuald_, I noticed ctrl+ enter doesn work let me check another [07:32] virtuald_, no cant go to site when typing manually here either [07:32] oh yeah, I do have the thing running in System mode on the beagleboard. [07:35] crimsun: Is “ubuntu-bug audio” going to collect enough information to debug “the volume control on my USB speakers has approximately the full volume range compressed into the last 10% of the slider”? [07:35] o.O [07:38] coz_: now it works again when i got the newest packages [07:38] virtuald_, mm I will have to update let me try [07:38] I'd guess ALSA's lying about its ability to convert dB values, so I'm getting an exponential volume control rather than a linear one. [07:40] eh, I had a thought.... my cm106 card: who could I donate one to to get the weird PA behavior fixed? [07:40] DanaG: what does "weird" entail? [07:40] This one: [07:40] RAOF: not really, but it's already being discussed on alsa-devel@. [07:41] http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/678 [07:41] pretty much all usb devices have this symptom [07:41] all usb audio devices* [07:41] virtuald_, yep works here as well [07:41] ALso advertises bogus dpi... even confuses win7 out-of-the-box driver. [07:41] er [07:41] bogus dB. [07:41] dBa. [07:41] whatever. [07:41] Sorry, I must have "DPI rant" leftovers littering my brain. [07:43] =þ [07:44] crimsun: Oh, so no point in filing a bug? [07:44] Or just file one for tracking. [07:45] Yo yo yo [07:46] yo yo MA [07:49] Quiet in here [07:58] argh, this atom cpu sucks so much... scrolling on the host system makes the pulseaudio network audio drop out. [07:58] The ARM is fine, though. [07:59] oh, for whoever was about the SC2 beta earlier [07:59] i found a download link on fileplanet, going to see how far i can get with the install and launch up until login at least [07:59] (no key so i can't actually get in very far) [08:00] in wine, that is [08:03] GUAWd, this atom is slow. [08:04] I'll have to stick firefox on the arm thingy to compare. =þ [08:11] why is sun java not included to lucid anymore ? [08:12] mtoolkit bug exists since years [08:20] ghostcube, it was replaced by opensdk [08:20] not working with many apps [08:20] no solution [08:23] then you should file bugs against those apps [08:23] er, openjdk? [08:23] that's s -> j [08:24] yeah, what I meant :) [08:25] i dont file bugs against 50% of the java apps [08:25] is ubuntu in relation with apple nowadyas or why is this ? [08:25] what does openjdk have to do with apple? [08:26] cause they blame sun java [08:26] thats all i ask [08:26] hmm ok nm i will install manually [08:26] Sun open sourced Java some years ago and since then, it's the openjdk [08:26] oh whoops [08:26] yeah openjdk is not adequate enough for my use [08:26] that whole SC2 thing i put in the wrong channel sorry about that [08:26] :| [08:26] yep [08:27] you won't find anything else on Suns Webpage either [08:28] there IS NO Sun JDK any more, it's that simple [08:29] unfortunately that means I may have to move away from ubuntu [08:29] darn [08:30] * kklimonda shrugs [08:30] 6 years not wasted but now useless [08:30] to what end? using MS Java? yeah, that's propably much better [08:31] hmm, some official news about this thing? [08:31] chris|: the apps dont work with open java but ok we file bugs now [08:31] we'll see [08:31] the discontinuation, that id? [08:32] openjkd is useless so I need sun java regardless of the distribution [08:32] coz_: if you think it's easier to switch to another distribution than to download sun java directly from their site than just switch. [08:32] kklimonda: thats not the point [08:32] ghostcube, you don't get it, do you? it's not an ubuntu thing, it's not a linux either, there IS NO Sun sdk any more [08:32] Is this just a Lucid thing... or has Sun themselves discontinued the self-built Java? [08:32] I need a news article link of some sort. [08:33] DanaG, same here [08:33] chris|: i get it but i think you dont get it ... the apps dont run with open java [08:33] not clear on the reasoning or rational [08:33] Solaris: OpenJDK, Windows: OpenJDK, Mac: OpenJDK, java.sun.com: OpenJDK [08:33] e [08:33] doenst matter what you tell me [08:36] argh, for some reason, alllllllllllll my audio sliders are all muted! [08:40] I'm pretty sure that they are going to move sun java to partners repo before lucid is released [08:41] I still see no news of official discontinuation of Java. [08:42] morning [08:42] DOesn't look discontinued to me. [08:42] http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp [08:42] and why would you? [08:44] so IS it just an Ubuntu decision? [08:45] no [08:45] DanaG: we are moving it to the partners repo so what's the problem? [08:45] I was just reading one person saying that "even on Windows, only OpenJDK is left". [08:45] the bins from java.sun.com are build using the OpenJDK source [08:45] So that's not correct. [08:45] oh wait [08:45] now I am half-confused. =þ [08:46] where's some official source for that bit of info? [08:47] DanaG: openjdk is simply a java from sun that has been opensourced [08:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK [08:48] ah, so it's more like the two systems have converged. [08:48] and icedtea6 is a fully compatible java implementation === debfx_ is now known as debfx [08:48] if any application doesn't work with it and works with java 6 from sun that it's a bug in the application [08:49] but the plan is to still have java 6 from sun in -partner repository [08:52] kklimonda: and what about a browser plugin? [08:52] I need to pay my taxes [08:52] BUGabundo_remote: there is a plugin [08:52] and you know how public entities love to use java at 800x600 [08:53] not really - in Poland I've managed not to use Java for anything ;) [08:53] on the other hand we still can't pay taxes though the internet [08:59] eheh [08:59] we can pay pretty much any official thing via internet [08:59] bank site fail: http://branchline.pacificservice.org [08:59] should redir to https. [08:59] even prepring marriage or new IDs [08:59] but nope. [09:03] hey, ghostcube [09:03] hi dAnjou :) [09:03] heh, the more time passes since alpha2 release the longer my system boots :/ [09:03] over 20 seconds after latest updates [09:06] so it looks like u1 music store sells mp3s.. and that's the only info I've managed to find :/ [09:12] kklimonda, as far as I know, u1 is just a middle man. they just provide an interface for some partners content [09:12] chris|: indeed [09:12] but I was hoping to get a confirmation which partner it is [09:12] haven't found anything on that topic either [09:13] heh, loading jamendo catalog in rhythmbox makes rhythmbox use over 160MB of ram [09:14] but I wouldn't be surprised if you could find that in some unwanted id3 comment or something [09:14] there are quite a few clues that it is going to be 7digital [09:17] never heard of them [09:17] but "High Quality MP3 Downloads" is quite a contradiction ;) [09:19] well, for me MP3 files compressed with V0 lame settings are indistinguishable from flac files anyway ;) [09:19] Is U1MS going to actually sell mp3s or ogg? [09:20] arand: All I've found out is that rhythmbox plugins installs mp3 decoder [09:20] plugin* [09:21] * DanaG wishes places would sell flac. [09:21] Cowon S9 plays flac natively. woot. [09:21] So are you buying the decoder or are they simply ignoring the legalities? [09:22] no idea - it downloads fluendo version of the decoder so either Canonical has made a deal with them or it's free and legal now [09:23] looks like it's free [09:24] kklimonda, that might be even true, but I won't pay money for something that has been chopped down into a 20 year old format for the sake of stupidity [09:25] chris|: sure - you are entitled to your opinion. My friend says the same [09:27] also, buying CDs of ebay is often cheaper that downloads ;) [09:28] but then you get CD which you have to keep somewhere safe [09:29] I like buying digital content as long as I get the right to redownload it when I want exactly because I hate having physical mediums.. [09:30] i'm with xubuntu lucid on eee 701, how can i set up password for default keyring? [09:32] or is that even possible yet [09:32] CDs are good to just stash somewhere after you rip to, say, FLAC. [09:34] DanaG: sure - but the point is you have to stash them somewhere :) [09:35] yeah, but you can put a whole bunch in the same place. Like, the back of a closet. Or something. [09:36] I would prefer digital as well, but so far, I have only found magnatunes to be a store that i like [09:39] hmm.. magnatune [09:39] I have to contact them and ask for access to my purchases.. [09:39] I've removed @gmail.com account and it was a pretty dumb move to make ;) [09:47] any one using gwibber 2.29.90 ? its showing 2.29.1 in about window [09:51] om26er: correct [09:51] so? [09:51] BUGabundo_remote, I'll report it [09:53] why? [09:53] its always changing [09:53] I bet it was put on a hurry to meet FF [09:54] ping kenvandine instead [09:57] BUGabundo_remote, ok [10:02] hello [10:03] rhythmbox crash randomly, is it known as bug ? [10:04] zniavre: depends on the crash [10:04] :p [10:04] do you have a trace? [10:04] not really there is no apport window (i started it with launcher not via terminal) [10:05] so it aint all that usefull [10:05] yes i know [10:06] but it's ramdomly sometime i can stay 1 hour , other time it crash after 5mn [10:08] zniavre: it still doesn't help - do you have /var/crash/_usr_bin_rhythmbox... file? [10:08] kklimonda, a yes it's opening apport window [10:09] nice thank you [10:09] i m sending it right now [10:17] #523721 [10:17] bug 523721 [10:17] Bug 523721 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/523721 is private [10:18] private ? [10:18] all crashes are made private by default as they may contain private data like logins, passwords etc. [10:19] ho [10:19] it still usefull like that ? [10:19] later, when apport-retrace tool checks it ubuntu-bugcontrol is going to be subscribed to it and we'll check attached files for any private data and make it public [10:19] ok thank you [10:19] let 's wait and see [10:26] just updated and after reboot no sound [10:26] ALSA lib conf.c:3272:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so [10:26] ALSA lib control.c:902:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default [10:26] cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [10:27] this message came when started alsamixer from terminal [10:28] crimsun: ^ [10:28] om26er: have you modified your audio stack or configuration somehow? [10:28] kklimonda, no, just updated [10:34] what caused alpha3 to be slipped a week to the 25th? [10:37] Where I report the package unavailability? The biggest miss is gnome-shell but I found other one non updated with a daily update [10:37] ciplogic, gnome-shell is available in lucid [10:38] gnome-shell: libgjs0 but it is not going to be installed [10:38] I use x64 version [10:38] (may matter) [10:39] Sorry: full error message is: Depends: libgjs0 but it is not going to be installed [10:39] ciplogic, wanna try the daily ppa? [10:39] Which is the repo string? [10:40] Of course [10:40] ppa:ricotz/testing [10:42] so I should add this in synaptic, isn't so? " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid ppa:ricotz/testing " [10:42] ciplogic, no [10:43] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/testing ;sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install gnome-shell [10:43] Thank you, you're right, I don't have errors on installing gjs right now [10:44] robin0800: why do you think it slipped? [10:45] kklimonda: bugs I expect but that hasn't stopped them before [10:46] robin0800: 25th has been alpha3 release date since the beginning [10:46] well, since the moment we decided to synchronize with debian freeze [10:50] I'm trying to install the daily build of lucid server from a usb stick onto a computer without a harddisk but with a sd-card. But when i come to the partitioning part in the install the sd-card does not show up. Haven't the server install got support for sd-cards? [10:51] no idea [10:53] jve, I guess yes as alternate install did not detect my sd card either === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [11:06] Does Lucid compile epiphany with the webkit backend? [11:10] LSD|Ninja: yes [11:11] Awesome, so I can completely remove firefox, xulrunner, et al? [11:12] I think yelp depends on xulrunner [11:12] No, I'm pretty sure yelp has been ported to webkit. [11:13] LSD|Ninja: you can try - it is probably going to remove ubuntu-desktop metapackage [11:13] looks like RAOF's right. Shiny :) [11:13] kklimonda: I'll give it a go. It's sitting in a VM atm so if I take a snapshot first I can always roll it back >:D [11:14] it would be awesome if we could choose what software to install when installing (maybe under a advanced option) [11:14] Also, have they fixed aliases in the latest versions of Empathy, anyone know? [11:15] The one in karmic is completely useless because I can't set my outgoing aliases in anything [11:17] what do you mean by aliases? [11:18] JoshuaL: not going to happen [11:18] to bad [11:18] Display names, whatever they're called in other clients. Basically what other people see in their contact lists instead of 94674033 or johndoe36845@hotmail.com [11:19] The version of Epiphany in karmic looks as though it lets you change them, but close the window, open it again and it's back to what it was before [11:19] not Epiphany, Empathy [11:21] works fine for me with Jabber but support for it may depend on protocol and if it's implemented in the llibrary [11:22] There's like a dozen open bugs on this in their bugzilla. It doesn't surprise me the Jabber module works though, that's been around for absolutely ages (assuming that Empathy/Telepathy in GNOME is related to Empathy/Telepathy in Maemo) [11:22] sound broken on today's update pulse audio has stopped working === Wellark1 is now known as Wellark [11:31] Hello everyone, I got the following problem (started with 9.10): One of my wireless networks (NOT the wireless network "button" itself) is greyed out so I can't connect to this network. I can, however, connect to another network but this connection is rather unstable. I am using b44 driver using ndiswrapper - how can I find out what the problem is and fix it? [11:49] heh, glad I have a second browser on standby, this firefox thing is a little annoying [11:52] what firefox thing? [11:53] ubuntu4 version still isn't uploaded? [11:53] ubuntu4 is already available [11:53] om26er: alsa-plugins is currently broken; I know about it [11:53] I may not have time to fix it before I go to work in the next hour [11:54] ah. ok [12:00] I hve installed desktop lucid now but plymuth crashes. How do i get into the bootloader and change to boot without plymuth? [12:01] keep shift pressed before grub loads [12:01] left shift [12:01] ok thx [12:06] it doesn't work [12:07] I have tried right shift, left shift, holding it, spamming it [12:07] but i still end up with a blinking cursor and nothing happens [12:08] jve: you sure you kept it hold before system starts booting? [12:08] yes [12:08] Could it be that grub failed when i installed? [12:08] hmm, I see references to this in my lastlog but no solution yet. My firefox stopped responding to the "enter" key in the url bar. [12:08] why do you think it's a plymouth issue then? [12:08] I can still navigate through clicking links, but I can't enter urls directly. [12:09] marienz: run it in safe mode it should help it [12:09] urgh [12:09] extensions issue then, I'll find the guilty one [12:10] marienz: more than likely it is if not than its likely a profile issue [12:10] yeah, I can debug firefox, don't worry. Just figured this'd probably be known. [12:10] marienz: not as far as i heard yet [12:11] marienz: do you have more than one java konsole as plugin ? [12:11] remove all except the last one [12:11] my /lastlog has... 6 or so people complaining [12:11] I don't java [12:12] it's not ubufox. Disabling everything... [12:12] there is an extension that is known for that and i cant recall the name [12:13] nope, still dead in safe mode. Trying a fresh profile... [12:13] marienz: safe mode or just disabling extensions? [12:13] still dead in safe mode, which disables all extensions [12:13] marienz: dpkg -l firefox [12:13] I just wanted to know if this was known. If it's not I'll debug, I can do that [12:13] marienz: it disables more than just extensions [12:13] I know! [12:14] marienz: i.e., which version is installed? [12:14] really, seriously, I can do basic debugging on firefox. You do not have to walk me through this. I just wanted to know if this specific problem (no working enter in the url bar after an upgrade earlier this morning) is known. [12:14] 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [12:14] marienz: there have been a problem with ubuntu3 release but it didn't affect my url bar [12:15] 0ubuntu3 is broken; please update. [12:15] ok, thanks [12:15] weird, my timing must've sucked === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support and discussion channel | firefox 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 is broken; update to 0ubuntu4 | libasound2-plugins is broken, being fixed | Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Milestones: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule | Alpha 2 released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 [12:16] (and either my bug search sucked or it affecting the enter key in the url bar is an uncommon failure mode) [12:19] to report a bug against the icon of evolution should I choose humanity or report it against evolution [12:20] om26er: does it only happen with that theme? [12:20] yes [12:20] om26er: the theme than [12:21] gnomefreak: is thunderbird3 not upgraded by default? [12:21] * vish doesnt see it being offered [12:21] vish: it hasnt landed in Lucid yet. and yes it should be [12:22] gnomefreak: oh , it hasnt.. heh, then whats asac tweeting all about ;) [12:22] there are a few things that needed to be done last i heard but dont recall what is holding it up [12:22] vish, would you look into this? in window picker applet evolution's icon is not obvious whether its active or not [12:22] vish: dont know havent gotten there yet :) [12:22] om26er: screenshot ? [12:23] thanks, -ubuntu4 firefox fixed the failing enter key problem. [12:23] working on it [12:31] om26er: use imagebin [12:33] vish, http://imagebin.org/85334 [12:33] http://imagebin.org/85335 [12:34] om26er: what am i looking for? [12:35] evolution active or not no big difference [12:36] om26er: with gnome? [12:36]