sebnerasac: you are core-dev right? Mind sponsoring (python) merge before FF?00:00
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asacsebner: python or python app?00:05
sebnerasac: python lib00:05
asacdont speak in mysteries00:06
sebnerasac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jinja2/+bug/52354000:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 523540 in jinja2 "Merge jinja2 2.3-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]00:06
asacsome i might sponsor, some i might defer to others00:06
sebnerasac: builds, pretty easy one00:07
sebnerasac: go go go, before someone gets the idea to change the topic to "FF in effect" ;)00:07
* sebner has high hopes on asac and waves gn800:11
asacsebner: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jinja2/2.1.1-2ubuntu1 is nt needed anymore?00:11
sebnerasac: nope, pysupport is fixed now00:12
asacpython.mk isnt included00:12
asaci prefer to see also justification of change droppage when doing merges00:13
asacmakes it much easier for outsiders to sponsor00:13
sebnerasac: I'd do it if FF wouldn't be (in the past) ^^00:13
sebnerasac: but you can trust the quality of my work *muahahaha*00:13
asacseems there already is 2.2.1 in the archive00:13
asacmissed that00:13
asacand that only has your change00:13
asacbut thats hard to verify because the diff is a full tree diff00:14
sebnerwhich will be fixed in next Debian bugfix upload too which I'll sync00:14
sebnerwithout FF00:14
* sebner hopes on asac 00:14
asacsebner: what will be fixed in next upload?00:15
micahgasac: do I need to go get an FFe for TB3 now?00:15
asacmicahg: arent we ready?00:16
micahgyes :)00:16
micahgbut it's not in archive :)00:16
asacsebner: please answer00:16
asacmicahg: yeah. i will upload it in a sec00:16
micahgasac: k00:16
sebnerasac: various fixes (py2.4 support which is not important imho)00:17
sebnerbreakage ..00:17
asacsebner: just dont understand what you replied to with:00:18
asac"< sebner> which will be fixed in next Debian bugfix upload too which I'll sync00:18
asacwhat does "which" mean there?00:18
sebnerasac: I want to merge 2.3 into lucid now to avoid needing a FFe for 2.3.100:19
ftaasac, about the MIR, what's goal? main?00:20
asacsebner: ok uploaded ;)00:20
sebnerasac: but it got already uploaded by crimsun00:20
asacfta: MIR = Main Includsion Archive00:20
ftaer, ok00:20
ftaso i won't be able to update it then00:20
asacwell ... ppp00:20
asacper package permission ...00:20
sebnerasac: anyways, thx und gn800:20
BUGabundoarchive separation00:20
asacis nowadadys common00:21
asacthats easy to get for you i am sure00:21
asaconce that happens i will suggest that00:21
* micahg is hoping to get upload rights after this cycle too :)00:21
asacto whatever council needs that handed to00:21
micahgDMB I think00:21
ftai have no intention to beg00:21
micahgDeveloper Membership Board00:21
asacfta: i always didnt understand what begging means ;)00:21
asacits not begging. its just saying ,here: i want to upload this, and understand the implications and so on ;)00:22
asacdirecthex: that builds with our xul 1.9.2 -dev package?00:22
asacis moon in main?00:23
directhexasac, that's building against 1.9.1 and failing on most sites as a result.00:23
asacdirecthex: have you tried our 1.9.2-dev daily?00:23
micahgdirecthex: you want a 1.9.2 package to build against?00:23
directhexasac, it's a couple of configure flags in debian/rules to tell it to use the ff3.6 code instead00:23
asacthat would be something you could do now00:23
asac1.9.2 will get in00:23
micahgdirecthex: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35/+packages00:23
asacdirecthex: should we just try to build it without changes?00:24
asacdirecthex: i can easily push current lucid version there00:24
asacbasically ... whatever is in there will get rolled to lucid by us00:25
directhexasac, i explicitly disabled support for 1.9.2 via configure to avoid a nasty configure bug. i'll try a rebuild against your package00:25
asacat some point00:25
asacok .. if you have a debdiff give it to us00:25
asacwe will just stage it there and then roll everything as a big flush00:25
directhexasac, currently lucid contains moonlight 1.0 which is... well, it won't work on ff3.600:25
micahgthat's why I didn't try pushing it as I knew you had a new version directhex00:26
directhexmicahg, my work is in a bzr branch, but using multi-tar and all sorts of debsrc 3.0 nonsense, which i didn't see any good guides to using in bzr environments00:27
asacdirecthex: try your package and push it to a ppa ... we can then copy the package into our porting ppa for staging00:27
asactry our package00:27
micahgasac: BTW, totem built...00:28
asacsaw that ...good00:29
directhexasac, okay, building in a chroot, i can pass the replacement moonlight-plugin-mozilla package to my virtual machine & see if it makes more stuff work. 36 meg of source though, slow build.00:33
directhexall this over one little extra .so file...00:35
asacyeah. webtech is often big stuff ;)00:36
asacisnt that all mono? or all cpp ?00:36
directhexasac, well... in the case of moonlight >1.0, it contains rather more stuff. a forked mono runtime (c), a bunch of libraries (c#), and the usual npp plugin crap (c++)00:38
directhex1.0 basically only had the plugin part, as all web logic was done with javascript only00:38
asacforked mono runtime?00:38
directhexasac, the security policy stuff means every last method & property on every single object in the stuff which is binary-stripped into the moonlight version of the core libraries needs to be whitelisted or dropped. so they don't track trunk religiously, and it certainly doesn't work with "whatever monno you have lying around"00:40
asacok pushing tb3 ... in 300:40
asacso if my connection stays on ;)00:41
directhexstill building mono 2.6.1ish00:42
asacstill uploading tbird 3.0'ish ;)00:42
asacyes. i a still not q100% sure our tarball is good ;)00:43
asaclets hope it will be 100% after the upload ;)00:43
micahgasac: I've been using it for almost a week00:43
asacare you sure you really have the exact tb 3.0 bits ;)?00:44
micahgasac: well, the version is right00:44
micahgthat was quite a project...00:45
asacjdstrand: so release was today ... so lets do ours tomorow. i will give you  a go then00:45
micahgasac: he already released :)00:45
asacoh really00:45
asacwell thats ok00:45
micahg3.5.8 at least00:45
asaci had it tested somewhat00:45
asacjdstrand: so unping ;)00:46
micahgasac: yep, everything's in :)00:46
directhex          Gecko 1.9 (Firefox 3): no00:48
directhex          Gecko 1.9.2 (Firefox 3.6): yes00:48
directhexlooking good00:48
directhex-rw-r--r-- root/root     59832 2010-02-18 00:47 ./usr/lib/moonlight/plugin/libmoonplugin-ff36bridge.so00:48
asaccheck if it really helps ;)00:48
directhexvery good infact00:48
directhexbooting vm00:48
asacworks good?00:48
asacgive us a .dsc then i guess00:49
asacor put in a ppa and we can copy00:49
directhexasac, i'll add a ppa dependency on yours, then push to ppa for a rebuild00:49
asacplease check that00:51
asacand let me know if the default homepage works00:51
directhexasac, i have full-screen silverlight3-based Quake running in my vm, i'll take that as a success.00:56
asacsounds good00:57
asaclooking forward ;)00:57
asacgood part of it is that moonlight got closer to the inner circle of stuff that we will still allow in archive to depend on xulrunner ;)00:57
asac(well, i always hoped that plugins can stay)00:58
directhexasac, what is the correct Depends: line to use for a plugin?00:59
asacgood question00:59
asacfirefox | xulrunner-1.9.2 ?01:00
asacnot really great ;)01:00
asaci think maybe chromium-browser works too?01:00
micahgasac: shouldn't that be Depends: xulrunner-1.9.2 Enhances: firefox?01:00
directhexasac, doesn't work properly in chromium yet, sadly01:00
asacfirefox doesnt depend on xulrunner-1.9.2 anymore ... so it needs to depend on both01:01
micahgasac: right, but it's not really a depends, is it?01:01
asacdirecthex: ok. is there an upstream chromium bug? or is the ball on mono side?01:01
asacdirecthex: so yeah01:01
asacdirecthex: plugins should at most recommend01:01
asacnot depend ;)01:01
asacif you ship it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ... even upstream builds will pick it up01:01
directhexasac, both. chrome has reentrancy mess and some open bugs, and the moon devs are trying to work around the issue as best they can without breaking FF support01:02
asacgiven that mon oisnt in best state on arm anyway, i would think it can wait till lucid+101:02
asac(chromium support)01:02
directhexis abrowser going to depend on xulrunner 1.9.201:02
asacits proruced from the firefox sources, by just shuffeling branding bits01:03
directhexRecommends: firefox | abrowser | xulrunner-1.9.201:03
asacthat soudns good. maybe include some webkit browser?01:03
asachmm guess it doesnt work there either ;)01:03
asacso yeah01:03
asactake that as a start01:03
micahgRecommends are pulled in automatically01:03
directhexmicahg, yeah, but it's piped01:04
directhexmicahg, so only the first one in the list.01:04
asacin mid term we should do something similar to what we have for extensions now01:04
micahgdirecthex: yes, but you should depend on xulrunner-1.9.2, I would think01:04
asaca bit more tricky i guess, because plugins dont come with a compatiblitity/metainfo file01:04
asacmicahg: no01:04
micahgasac: no?>01:04
asacyou dont need it01:04
asacthe idea is that plugins produced by the xul sdk01:05
asacwill run on all xul based geckos higher than that version01:05
micahgasac: it's not linked against the xulrunner binaries?01:05
asacit is linked against a few, but those are loaded by the runtime manually01:05
asacso firefox loads libs compatible to what xulrunner would load etc.01:05
asace.g. no libs produced by xulrunner are in /usr/lib/01:06
asacyou will figure01:06
asacjust in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.../ or even /usr/lib/xulrunner-deve-/...01:06
asacFeb 18 Ubuntu Installer          ( 16K) [ubuntu/lucid] thunderbird 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)01:07
asaclet me get the locales too01:08
asacalmost forgot ;)01:08
micahgasac: k, I have to go soon anyways, maybe you can explain more later01:08
asacmicahg: please listen to bugs on both packages the next few days01:08
micahgasac: k, I'll subscribe to tb-locales01:08
asacN   Feb 18 Ubuntu Installer          (9.6K) [ubuntu/lucid] thunderbird-locales 1:3.0-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)01:38
ccheneyyipee :)01:41
directhexasac, https://launchpad.net/~moonlight-team/+archive/skunkworks/+packages01:51
asacanyone has problems with latest firefox/ubufox?02:03
* ccheney updates to see if it explodes02:17
asacmost likely02:19
asacsee bug 52356902:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523569 in firefox "No search providers or default search provider in 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu3" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52356902:19
asaci have uploaded a fix for that now02:19
asachope its enough ;)02:20
asacccheney: before starting you can replace02:22
ccheneyok yea home seems to not work02:22
ccheneyoh i already started sorry, can i restart with that change and it work?02:22
asacccheney: --reinstall firefox02:23
asacthen replace02:23
asacyou can also try to just replace02:23
asacbut it might be that ffox doesnt see the changes02:23
ccheneyasac: is there a text version of that url that i can wget?02:24
ccheneyhmm nm i have chromium i can use for that02:24
asacccheney: wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=f25d5bc202:24
ccheneyah ok02:24
asacccheney: there is a download link at the top02:25
ccheneyok i think i have it replaced properly, will see what it does now02:26
ccheneyalso reinstalled firefox02:26
ccheneylooks like a bug with double / before Yahoo ?02:26
ccheneybut it does work02:26
asacthats a bug02:26
asacdarn ;)02:27
asacwithout // you dont get a redirect02:27
asacccheney: dpkg -L ubufox | grep aboutHome02:27
asacopen that file02:27
asacccheney: remove the trailing / from the ONLINE_PREFIX on top02:28
asacrestart ffox02:29
asaccheck if its better02:29
* asac out02:33
ccheneyyea seems to work02:35
ccheneysorry had to run to see why my wife's hd was making noises02:36
ccheneythe external drives fan seems to be having problems02:36
ccheneyit changes to about:home so fast now i can't see the original url02:36
ccheneyasac: save tabs and quit seems to hang02:39
ccheneyhmm killed it and restarted, restored the tabs, seems to be trying to do that anyway and it pretty unresponsive02:42
ccheneymaybe just slow internet issue, not sure02:43
ccheneyhmm actually save quit does do something, but seems to only save a few windows worth of tabs and then stops saving and never quits02:44
ccheneyi guess i'll need to close out the rest and see if it will work with a fresh set of tabs02:44
ccheneynope even when i close all the tabs and then quit without saving it still hangs02:48
ccheneyhmm it finally quit on its own without needing to kill it, but it was really slow at doing so02:49
ccheneyerm i am not sure if this is a bug in my system, the package, or intended behavior, but if i change google back to the first position it doesn't make it the default, it stays with yahoo and the yahoo home page02:56
ccheneyis that part of the code not done yet?02:56
ccheneyit shows google as the first item in the menu list, but not as the default on either spot02:57
ccheneyoh nm i just didn't apparently know how to use it02:58
ccheneyi selected google in the drop down and then it worked02:58
ccheneyit looks like it only works between google and yahoo, but that may be by design02:59
* ccheney wonders what the ordering list is for03:06
ccheneyi guess maybe just aesthetics03:07
micahgasac: still around?03:29
jdstrandasac: didn't mean to jump the gun on you-- I asked in here about problems, didn't here back and knew you said you were going to do it today and figured you did since it was way past your eod :)03:57
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micahg[reed]: is it better to poke in bug for check-in or channel?05:25
[reed]micahg: what bug?05:26
[reed]does it have checkin-needed keyword yet?05:26
micahgmozilla 54246805:26
ubottuMozilla bug 542468 in Build Config "js/src/config/check-sync-dirs.py fails when running in a built environment" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54246805:26
micahg[reed]: our 1.9.2 dailies are failing because of the check-sync test05:27
[reed]well, it won't land on 1.9.2 anytime soon05:27
[reed]but m-c soon05:27
[reed]the tree has been closed all weekend05:27
micahg[reed]: once it lands in m-c can I add a patch?05:27
* micahg guesses they want to spin 3.6.205:27
micahg[reed]: do I have to wait for check-in to add the patch?05:29
[reed]not sure of your agreement with MoCo is05:29
[reed]I defer to mconnor on that05:29
micahg[reed]: k, but for sure when it hits m--c?05:29
[reed]but I'll work on getting it landed05:29
[reed]I can't answer that, as I don't know the terms of your agreement05:30
micahg[reed]: k, thanks05:30
micahg[reed]: k, I'll ask asac in the morning05:30
micahgin the mean time I'll subscribe05:30
[reed]glandium has a large backlog of patches05:30
[reed]that need to be landed05:31
[reed]last I checked, it was ~20 or 25 or something05:31
micahgwe usually don't get patches from debian indirectly like this...very interesting05:31
dupondjeits completely broken now firefox in lucid ? can't even go to a website anymore :s06:13
micahgdupondje: fixed in -0ubuntu406:14
dupondjemicahg: cool :) but its still in NEW ? :)06:16
micahgdupondje: I can't do anything about that :)06:17
dupondjeis there a quick workaround ? :)06:18
micahgdupondje: build it yourself?06:19
micahgdupondje: should be published now06:23
micahgwhat arch?06:24
dupondjeamd64 :p06:27
dupondjebut going to eat now06:27
micahgdupondje: should be published06:34
dupondjedont see it yet :) anyway gtg to work now :D06:36
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gnomefreakis there a problem with the daily tbird bot?12:15
gnomefreakIIRC monday was last update to it and it was broken here :(12:16
* gnomefreak taking bets on what else i can break today12:36
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sindhudweepasac: do you have availability for a few minutes now?12:43
gnomefreak93.4%CPU that is a major problem12:45
gnomefreakthats in safemode.12:45
gnomefreakok i think i got tbird working once again. it just needs filters and friends13:09
gnomefreakvish: from what i am seeing on a bug report 3.0 was pushed (maybe just hasnt hit servers yet)13:11
gnomefreakasac: is there a hold up in reviewing tbird-3.0?13:15
fta2asac, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=63143713:22
gnomefreakit seems thunderbird-3 isnt handling deleting 16894 mesages very well13:41
gnomefreak93.5 32.7   1:27.08 thunderbird-bin  downloading messages13:47
asacgnomefreak: are you running the "archive" version? or daily?13:48
gnomefreakasac: daily there is no archive version yet13:49
asacgnomefreak: there is i hope13:49
asaclet me check if its through NEW13:49
gnomefreakgnomefreak@Development:~$ policy thunderbird-3.013:49
gnomefreak  Installed: 3.0.3~hg20100217r4732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd113:49
gnomefreak  Candidate: 3.0.3~hg20100217r4732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd113:49
gnomefreak  Version table:13:49
gnomefreak *** 3.0.3~hg20100217r4732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 013:49
gnomefreak        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages13:49
gnomefreak        100 /var/lib/dpkg/s13:49
asacyes. all but armel are in13:50
asaci think13:50
asacdouble checking13:50
BUGabundo_remotethere it is13:51
BUGabundo_remoteits oficial13:51
BUGabundo_remoteits OUT13:51
asac3.0.1 coming tomorrow ;)13:51
* BUGabundo_remote ReDents13:51
asacand then directly 3.0.213:51
BUGabundo_remotestop it :D13:51
asacmoving quickly ;)13:51
asacjust waiting till builds are done before going for next13:51
gnomefreakasac: are we upgrading 2.0*->3.0* or do they have to install it13:52
gnomefreakvish: asked earlier13:52
directhexpfft, thunderbird. moonlight is much more exciting13:57
sindhudweepdirecthex: i'd be happy if there were packages for mono 2.6.1; I don't particularly need moonlight just yet!13:59
* sebner waves at asac :)13:59
directhexsindhudweep, not going into lucid. not officially anyway.13:59
sindhudweepasac: given the thunderbird stuff should I read above I figure you're really busy. Should I try to grab you again in a few days?13:59
asacsindhudweep: i will check it today14:00
asacthats a new upstream version?14:00
sindhudweepdirecthex: i figured as much; but the not quite complete wcf implementation is still enough to get one of my apps working.14:05
directhexsindhudweep, well, port your app to silverlight since that contains said wcf implementation ;)14:05
sindhudweepit's a datawarehousing backend14:06
micahgasac: when can we add patches from mozilla upstream?14:06
sindhudweepno ui to speak of but i suppose i could run it on silverlight anyways.14:06
directhexsindhudweep, run your backend in a firefox popup!14:06
sindhudweep:) I guess i'll just wait for 12.04 LTS14:07
micahgdirecthex: there's always prism ;)14:07
directhexsindhudweep, as was the case with hardy, i'll be running a supported unofficial backport repo#14:07
sindhudweepahh thanks!14:07
directhexwith a "donate" button in the corner ;)14:08
sindhudweepI'd happily pay bounties for good packages.14:10
sindhudweepmy employer probably would too.14:10
gnomefreakwhat is used instead of gwibber-daemon?14:11
directhexi think i'll work on my repo tonight, actually14:11
sindhudweepdirecthex: will they be in monoxide? will you code up a donate now plugin for launchpad?14:12
directhexsindhudweep, my LTS repo is badgerports. although a donation plugin is an interesting idea14:14
sindhudweepactually i'm liking the idea more and more that i think about it.14:14
sindhudweepvote with currency to get certain bugs fixed14:14
sindhudweepor wish list items met14:14
directhexew, this means i need to write some python, doesn't it :(14:14
sindhudweepdirecthex: launchpad doesnt support ironpython probably so you're stuck with cython14:15
sindhudweepdirecthex: you focus on mono; I'll take a crack at the launchpad plugin this week and see if i can get canonical to bite on the idea.14:16
directhexsindhudweep, well, there are simple ways to do it, and less simple ways. a simple way would just be the ability to define an amazon wishlist, and/or paypal account (or possibly other schemes) in your ppa's settings, and just have adequate hyperlinks exposed14:17
sindhudweepyup that was the plan. Probably some basic abstraction so paypal/googlecheckout/whatever provider can be used14:18
directhexsindhudweep, personally the main reason i prefer to mirror badgerports away from launchpad is so i can count usage - i.e. keep stats regarding number of users14:18
sindhudweepppa stats plugin?14:18
sindhudweepor popcon support?14:18
directhexwell, what i track is the number of unique IPs per month pulling Packages.gz14:18
directhexheh, Bug #13985514:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 139855 in soyuz "Display stats about PPA usage" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13985514:19
sindhudweepso if someone's using squid or apt-mirror you have no idea (like say a hedgefund in evanston,il, usa) how many are using your package.14:19
directhexsindhudweep, i assume the NAT etc users balance out the dynamic IP users14:19
asacmicahg: depends on the patch14:20
asacmicahg: we dont add anything less than critical ...14:20
sindhudweepahh interesting; that makes sense.14:20
micahgasac: 3.6.2 daily won't build because of tests14:20
micahgasac: mozilla 54246814:21
ubottuMozilla bug 542468 in Build Config "js/src/config/check-sync-dirs.py fails when running in a built environment" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54246814:21
asacmicahg: isnt that also an upstream problem?14:22
micahgasac: it seems to be a distro problem14:23
micahgasac: sorry, xul192, not ff36214:23
asacmicahg: when was this regression introduced?14:24
asace.g. since when are our dailies failing?14:24
asacthe bug is open since january ... so that feels odd14:25
micahgasac: last night14:25
asacmicahg: oh they landed something14:25
micahgthey landed some tests yesterday14:25
asacmicahg: why are we running check-sync-dirs.py14:25
micahgI think it's part of the test suite (idk)14:26
asachmm ok14:26
asaci didnt know we failed if the test suite fails14:26
micahgit's only dailies, so I think it makes sense to so that we notice14:27
metricpianoWhat's the lastest on 523569 no search/url entry?  Specifically how do I "Please update to 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu4 as that should fix it as well." as the update hasn't shown up for me yet.14:28
micahgmetricpiano: that's the solution14:29
micahgmetricpiano: you can temporarily change your mirror to the main archive if you need it faster14:29
metricpianowhat is the solution?  who is on first? :)  ... so change mirror and sudo apt-get update will do it?  (newbie)14:30
micahgmetricpiano: yep14:30
micahgmetricpiano: well, sudo apt-get upgrade after that14:30
BUGabundo_remotemetricpiano: $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade14:30
BUGabundo_remoteshould be a better deal14:30
BUGabundo_remotesince you are runnin lucd14:30
sindhudweepdirecthex: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/52383514:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 523835 in blueprint "New financial sponsorship of bugs/blueprints in launchpad" [Undecided,New]14:36
directhexsindhudweep, neat. i'm just trying to learn the LP code for ppa stats14:37
sindhudweepdirecthex: I'm more interested in your thoughts on the risks involved. I didn't consider the arbitrage stuff till i thought more about it.14:38
sindhudweepyeah the ppa stats would be exceedingly useful.14:38
directhexsindhudweep, i think it's vitally important to differentiate a "gift" or "donation" from a "paid service"14:39
sindhudweepOh! yes of course. This should be split into two separate specs then. Donations/gifts after the fact and consulting is obviously  done before the work.14:42
sindhudweepdonations/gifts is simpler as this removes the arbitrage risk. I'll rewrite the bug report.14:43
directhexbasically it is unreasonable to have any expectations from someone if you give them a gift or donation, so the scope for disputes should be small. i know i expect nothing from clicking "donate"14:44
directhexalthough i certainly did a lot of work updating my repo that one time i got a multi-hundred-pound donation14:44
micahgasac: also, on the xulrunner-list page, should I add a column for works w/192?14:44
asacbug 52383714:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523837 in ubuntu-website "on 10.04 Google startpage, the border box is broken in ffox (works in chromium)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52383714:46
asacmicahg: we could do that14:46
asacmicahg: imo we should have another more "log like" page14:46
asacthat tracks our actions14:46
asaclike: when uploading add a note14:46
asacwhen fixed, add a note14:46
asacwe can also use that to report our progress weekly14:46
* sebner just noticed that his search providers are resetted once again. /me fixes14:47
micahgasac: k, just a running log, or a table like structure as well?14:47
asacmicahg: a log is good i think14:50
asacwith clear markers for "upload", "fixed", "ported to webkit"14:50
micahgasac: k, also, can I add the disable-jit fix for TB3 to tb.head?14:51
micahgfor spaarc14:51
asacmicahg: if you do that for sparc only in rules, then yes, lets go for it14:51
micahgasac: k, can I add other fixes to .head now that tb3 is in archive?14:52
asacmicahg: depends on the kind of fixes. if they need baking in daily, then no. otherwise go ahead14:52
asacjust want t get .1 uploaded tonight14:52
micahgasac: ah, k, should I prepare it14:52
asacmicahg: please focus on xul192 ;)14:52
micahga patch needs to be dropped for it14:52
asacmicahg: if you know things, just do them ... but dont let that block you on the transition thing14:53
asaci can easily do the bumping etc.14:53
micahgasac: k14:53
micahgasac: k, so back to the log, a 2 column log then one with entry, one with status?14:54
micahgand fixed would mean in PPA, but not archvie?14:55
asacmicahg: sure14:55
asacmicahg: you can also say "fix staged"14:56
micahgasac: k14:56
micahgasac: I'm going to prepare the firefox-stable updates on my way to $WORK16:11
micahgI'll also prepare test uploads for the rest of the packages that I have downloaded for the xul192 transition16:11
micahgasac: and the dropped patch for TB3.0.116:12
micahgasac: I'll push when I get to work, but then I'm signing off till evening.  If you need me, just send me an e-mail16:13
micahgasac: or dent16:13
asacmicahg: dont put time into 3.0.1 if it takes more than 2 minutes ;)16:13
asacmicahg: sure. will talk to you later today16:13
micahgasac: nope, I know which patch needs to be dropped :)16:13
micahg<2min :)16:14
micahgsomehow they got (TB3.0) without this fix that was in the release version of
micahgTB 3.0.1 is
micahgk, gtg16:15
fta2crimsun, help, lost sound in lucid after upgrade+reboot17:01
BUGabundo_remotefixed just now17:06
BUGabundo_remote"help" LOLOL17:07
BUGabundo_remoteas if that was critical17:07
BUGabundo_remotebeen taking users whining all afternoon on +117:07
BUGabundo_remoteand now fta17:07
BUGabundo_remotefta: (05:06:26 PM) jemark: sound but heavy cpu load :(17:09
sebnerfta2: known bug17:12
BUGabundo_remotesebner: fixed17:12
sebnerfta2: https://launchpad.net/bugs/52390217:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 523902 in alsa-driver "no sound after recent Lucid upgrade (dup-of: 523716)" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 523716 in pulseaudio "pulseaudio version defined as UNKNOWN, which breaks everything with build-dep on libpulse-dev" [High,Fix released]17:12
sebnerBUGabundo_remote: definately not fixed17:12
BUGabundo_remotesebner: see +117:12
BUGabundo_remotethey have audio back17:13
* sebner looks17:13
BUGabundo_remoteso should be fixed17:13
sebnerBUGabundo_remote: nope, I tested that already half an hour ago ;)17:14
kecsapasac: Hi, I fixed a bug (493805) which is a fix against the packaging files. I cloned the lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubufox/ubuntu, fixed the bug and attach the patch to the bug report. Should I assign back to you to apply the patch?17:19
fta2BUGabundo_remote, nada, upgraded, still nothing17:22
asackecsap: yes, assign me to the bug17:37
asackecsap: we need to patch lp:ubufox17:37
kecsapasac: there are no packaging files in lp:ubufox, are not?17:38
kecsaponly in the branch mentioned in my comment above.17:39
kecsapoh, ok. I think what I mentioned is just a branch of lp:ubufox.17:40
kecsapjust need time to learn bzr and launchpad concepts...17:41
asackecsap: no. i dont need packaging contributions. just code contributions17:43
asaci will just cherry pick for intermediate uploads17:43
asacof course if you see a packaging bug, its against the packaging branch17:44
asacbut iirc you are dealing with real code17:44
kecsapasac: then I should skip the bugs related packaging or it is worth to create patches against the packaging branch?17:47
asackecsap: if there are packaging bugs, then that will help17:47
asacare there?17:47
kecsape.g. old and trivial: 22228317:48
kecsapok, then I continue the work17:54
micahgasac: is this ok for changelog for firefox-stable: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/379235/18:06
asacmicahg: i usually just modify the topmost changelog18:07
asacmicahg: e.g. append the ~aaa18:07
asacand add a line there18:07
asaclike you did in the new changelog18:08
asacin that way if you update you will see the full changes18:08
micahgasac: ah, k18:08
micahgasac: so this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/379239/18:10
asacmicahg: right. and build the sources with debuild ... -vLASTUPLOADEDVERSION18:10
asacthat will include the previous cangelogs too (if we missed one)18:10
asacyou need to use a version from the changelog18:11
micahgso, back to ubuntu118:11
asacright if that was the backport we did18:12
micahgasac: is tehre any way to check that it pulled the right versions?18:14
micahgthis is what it used to build: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sd -v3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu118:14
asacmicahg: look a tthe produced .changes18:14
asacthat should include all the changelog entries after the version you specified18:14
micahgperfect :)18:14
asacsounds like it worked ;)18:15
micahgasac: uploading to firefox-stable, uploaded more packages to ffox36, and pushed up stuff for tb.head18:18
micahgasac: anything else before I close IRC till this evening/18:18
micahgasac: ping on identi.ca if you need me18:36
LLStarks|Swampasasac, here's a rather big bug for tbird 3.018:55
LLStarks|Swampasget mail doesn't work if you have multiple accounts18:55
LLStarks|Swampasunless you use get mail dropdown.18:55
jetsaredimi understand this isn't a mozilla-related question per-se, but anyone know what happened to the pin tab function in the latest browser build?19:01
asacfta: can we move to thunderbird.head for dailies?19:07
asacLLStarks|Swampas: wait for the dailies or 3.0.1 build (will happen tomorrow)19:13
LLStarks|Swampaswhat were we using before?19:14
asacLLStarks|Swampas: before what?19:14
LLStarks|Swampasthe builds are 3.0.2 right now, aren't they?19:14
asacLLStarks|Swampas: you said 3.0 ... thats why i thought you are on 3.0 we uploade to archive now19:14
LLStarks|Swampas3.0 release, 3.0 daily and 3.1 daily are all f'ed up.19:15
LLStarks|Swampasanyway, i gotta go. right now.19:15
asacLLStarks|Swampas: pop?19:15
asacimap works here19:15
gnomefreakasac: on daily update of 3.6* the search changed from gogle to yahoo. shouldnt it respect what i had set it to?19:26
asacgnomefreak: no. you didnt set it to anything as google was the default19:28
asacso default stays default19:28
gnomefreakasac: why is it yahoo than?19:29
asacgnomefreak: you can change it back now19:29
asacgnomefreak: because we are going for yahoo19:29
asacthere was an announce on ubuntu-devel19:29
gnomefreaki did and would love to set up more than one but i cant find a way19:29
asacgnomefreak: setup more than one of what?19:29
gnomefreakasac: i know default was changing to yahoo but on an already installed firefox it shouldnt change right?19:30
gnomefreakasac: have 2 search bars19:30
mahfouzbtw, is it normal that 3.7 daily build crashes each time on flash19:32
gnomefreakas i thought it would work is on a new install of firefox it would be set to yahoo but a version already installed it was going to stay as it is19:32
mahfouzunusable atm19:32
gnomefreakim not getting crashes on 3.7 but it is very slow to respond19:32
mahfouzi cannot load any flash page19:33
mahfouz3.6 is fine19:34
gnomefreaki can test flash in a bit i am looking for a kernel bug i filied :(19:35
asacgnomefreak: already explained it above. it shouldnt change selections, but if you select the default firefox forgets that you actually selected that19:40
asacso you are back riding the default19:40
gnomefreakah ok19:40
asacand flash crashes ffox 3.7 because they do the out-of-process thing on that branch19:40
gnomefreakoh thanks i dont have to test than :)19:42
asacits flaky still19:42
gnomefreakreally really damn slow though19:42
asaconce the dust has settled for 3.6 we will move it to all-static too ... doubt that thats the reason though19:44
gnomefreaki guess PA is still broken19:44
asacworks for me ;)19:45
gnomefreaki havent done updates sine this morning i wanted to get my kernel bug commented on first19:45
directhexasac, did you get the link to moonlight 2.1 karmic packages built against 3.6?19:48
directhexum, lucid19:48
directhexnor karmic19:48
micahgjdstrand: I noticed the USN for 3.5 only covered karmic, was that intentional?19:49
gnomefreak3.6 much faster. i love speed :)19:49
jdstrandmicahg: yes. karmic is the only stable release with a supported ff3519:49
jdstrandmicahg: we don't issue USNs for universe/multiverse or anything in devel19:50
micahgjdstrand: ok, good to know, thanks19:50
jdstrandmicahg: I did publish jaunty's ff35 though, just no USN19:50
micahgjdstrand: k, so next time I make an update, should the USN still be included in teh changelog?19:51
micahgasac: ^^^^19:51
ftaasac, the last gyp doesn't work to build the beta, upstream asked me to stop using system gyp :P19:51
jdstrandmicahg: that is customary-- it doesn't hurt and only helps people interested in what the changes are19:51
micahgjdstrand: ok, just want to make sure I do things right19:52
jdstrandmicahg: this is for firefox builds mind you-- we don't do that for other things in universe19:52
jdstrandfirefox is always special-cased for some reason19:52
micahgjdstrand: high visibility maybe?19:52
jdstrandwell, there are all kinds of reasons why it is special cased...19:54
jdstrandthe upstream development model is the primary one19:54
jdstrandsince asac has traditionally supported universe packages for firefox, it makes sense to reference the USN that applies to it19:55
gnomefreaklibasound2-plugins was upgraded again this should be the fixed version now i hope 1.0.22-0ubuntu519:55
micahgjdstrand: ok19:55
jdstrandwe don't do that on the security team because we don't support the universe packages19:55
gnomefreakmicahg: i dont recall if i asked yesterday but in Lucid is tb2->3.0 or do you have to install 3.019:56
micahggnomefreak: tb2 was updated to tb319:56
micahggnomefreak: we're going to try to keep one version of stuff in archive :)19:57
gnomefreakwell will be19:57
gnomefreakmicahg: tb3 still hasnt passed NEW i guess19:57
micahgor rather unversioned sources19:58
micahggnomefreak: was built already19:58
micahggnomefreak: check your mirror19:58
gnomefreakmicahg: right just not pushed out of NEW19:58
gnomefreakmicahg: looked in LP earlier19:59
gnomefreakim using gb mirror19:59
micahgah, I still don't understand how the queuing works :/19:59
micahgk, back offline for me...20:00
gnomefreakone of the archive admins needs to review and push it out of NEW IIRC20:00
gnomefreakasac: did anyone update enigmail for tb3*. i have been using upstream xpi, would love to go back to our build20:01
* gnomefreak thinks it doesnt support 3.0 or the version i have in 2.0* would be used by both20:03
asacgnomefreak: on our list. considered a bug atm20:07
gnomefreakasac: ok. is there going to be a daily version as well?20:08
asacno clue. unlikely20:08
asacenigmail development is not really that active20:08
asacbut we will push that package to the ppa so hardy etc. users also get it20:09
gnomefreakmake sense.20:10
gnomefreaktbird using pop cant connect to some servers stating wrong name/password  (go to site nad log in it works) imap == too slow to use at all20:26
gnomefreakoh an dnothing newer than 2007 has shown up yet20:27
gnomefreakasac: yes its grabbing emails from gmail account from 2006 2007 but nothing newer20:30
asacmaybe those are marked as already downloaded?20:30
gnomefreaknot sure the important emaqil accounts i cant connect to pop server it says20:31
gnomefreaki really dont want to redo tbird all over again its getting kind of old now20:32
ftaok, found a workaround for gyp20:35
gnomefreakStatus:  POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 5/15/07  :(20:40
gnomefreakok think i fixed it20:44
gnomefreakusing the mail account setup wizard defaults to IMAP for some reason. all my accounts server side have imap disabled20:50
gnomefreakyep that is the problem. now to fix it20:53
gnomefreaksome show up as pop and some as imap. that is why some wont connect. server side all are enabled pop and disabled imap but tb3.0 is not respecting that20:54
asaccrimsun: one thing that is odd is that my alsamixer seems to have real effect on the volume now20:58
asaccrimsun: and it gets reset somehow on boot20:58
gnomefreakis there a way to change the "Server Type" setting. this is above the "Server Name" line under server settings20:59
gnomefreakif not than tb is really broken20:59
ftaanyone for a quick test of chromium from the beta ppa?23:43
BUGabundofta: can you even use any browser on this site: https://www.mbnet.pt23:48
BUGabundoany of my 4 browsers just uses full cpu23:50
BUGabundoonce I try to press the login box23:50
ftanope, looks fine23:51
BUGabundochromium, ch private, FF 3.6, and FF 3.7 new profile23:51
BUGabundonothing works23:51
ftatry with a fresh profile (--user-data-dir=/tmp/foo1 --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/foo2)23:52
ftamost probably your flash plugin23:52
ddecatorBUGabundo, shows up fine for me on FF 3.723:53
BUGabundoit opens fine23:53
BUGabundoI just can't login23:53
BUGabundoand the few times I manage to login, CPU busts23:53
ddecatorif i had an account i would try it out23:54
BUGabundoall plugins disable, FF 3.6 works fine23:56

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