=== Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [01:32] It says "#ubuntu You are banned from this channel." [02:58] It says " #ubuntu Cannot send to channel "... [03:13] check #ubuntu [03:16] Romney2012 is spamming the channel [04:22] @btlogin [04:24] trying to understand yoyoma [04:24] his space key seems to be missing or broken [05:01] I think I have the #k floodbots sorted out finally, I unbanned them now and nothings exploded (yet) [05:02] genii: Good to hear. Did you let Riddell know? [05:03] nhandler: Yeah I PMd him I unbanned the bots already [05:03] :) [05:47] * jussi01 is sleepy [05:51] * genii slides jussi01 a coffee [05:52] * mneptok drops a Benadryl in it [05:53] * jussi01 thwarts mneptok... [05:53] thanks genii! [05:53] jussi01: No problemmo [07:00] * genii ponders a !chrome [07:05] genii: add chrome to !browser and alias it [07:05] !browser [07:05] Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary) [07:06] jussi01: I'll think more tomorrow about it... Going to bed in a minute or two here [07:12] nini genii [08:03] good morning [08:04] moin [08:41] !appeals [08:41] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [09:32] * venuism (venuism@banned.by.an.irc-op.net) has joined #ubuntu-women <-- for some strange reason this raises my eyebrows. [09:33] indeed [09:33] he's had a sshow in #freenode [10:49] jussi01, jpds, other ubot* owners: did akgraner request a bot for #ubuntu-women-project yet? [10:49] No. [10:49] elky: I havent seen one [10:49] consider this her request by proxy then [10:50] thanks jpds [11:11] elky: No problem. [11:19] "#ubuntu #ubuntu-ops Forwarding to another channel" Why? [11:20] "#ubuntu Cannot send to channel" Why? [11:20] Gryllida: hi, sounds like someone wanted to talk to you here before you can be allowed in #ubuntu [11:20] Why? [11:21] I don't know (yet), please wait [11:24] Gryllida: ah, you have spellingbot or similar popping into #ubuntu? [11:24] No. [11:25] I should be elsewhere btw, someone please [11:25] Gryllida, you have a bot running on your network. it's been banned from #ubuntu for being a problem. [11:26] this first happened on feb 10 and again today, feb 17 [11:27] the ban is there to prevent it going back on. if you can disable the bot, we can let you back in to the channel [11:30] This is who I am: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/4817791 I don't make spelling bots... This must be Bob Greenwill... a nasty person in my room who found my Chatzilla. ;) I think he is the only person in the world who could imitate a spelling bot... What was it like? [11:31] must have been a NASTY "bot" ;) There isn't one in my Chatzilla, though. [11:31] now [11:31] penny for every claim of "it was my roommate/brother" [11:32] Gryllida, please be honest. trying to blame someone else isn't a nice thing to do and usually loses our sympathy. [11:33] Well, there isn't a bot in my Chatzilla now... Neither I see one at my whole hard drive. Never seen a code of a one. Honestly! [11:35] I was just wondering how I can add a input locale to Ubuntu.. In Windows it's pretty uncomfortable some times. [11:38] Gryllida, so you've removed the bot from your chatzilla now? [11:38] no [11:38] I didn't have any [11:38] Don't you believe that https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/4817791 is me? Check there below the picture, I've added letter "U" [11:38] I don't know how to make a bot. [11:39] if you havent' made any change, then I cannot let your network in as the bot will also get back in. i need assurance the bot is gone. [11:41] Can you tell me what did the bot react at? Was there anything what reproduced its reaction always? [11:42] I can offer the following steps to test it: 1) Maybe you can let me in #ubuntu 2) then you will type something what the "bot" reacts at 3) then we'll see what happens. [11:43] These steps can work if the bot didn't do big-volumed messages at once [11:50] Connection was reset because of my Internet connection. The last word I saw was "Hello?" If you asked anything after, please repeat [11:51] Gryllida: Hi, no I don't think we would do any "testruns" [11:52] Hm. I could send you a screen-shot... Or I can send you my 60GB hard drive... I just don't see a spelling BOT here. [11:53] * Gryllida (~chatzilla@211.51.202.207) has joined #ubuntu-ops as compered to 2010-02-17T12:19:44 *** spellingbot (spellingbot!~chatzilla@211.51.202.207) has left #ubuntu (requested by ikonia (please visit #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your removal)) [11:53] you have the same ip address. [11:55] I just don't see a spelling BOT here. I think it is gone now. If it's there again with the same IP as me, send me an e-mail to gryllida@gmail.com , I will delete all my addons that I created for Firefox [11:57] rww called the ops in #ubuntu (Juanma: nsfw link) [12:00] Gryllida: I unfortunately cannot see you talking the truth [12:04] Gryllida: so, what I suggest, please come back when you are willing to discuss about this honestly (: [12:05] I am. Don't you believe that I am https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/4817791 ? [12:06] I think I will be asking this question at the mailing list. Thanks for attention. [12:07] If you suddenly decide to believe me, please e-mail me to gryllida@gmail.com bye [12:15] Here it is: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-February/211260.html But the #ubuntu channel could have helped me quicker... If I was really an owner of a bot, I would just change my IP in a second or two... Thanks for attention anyhow! [12:22] Then, please describe what the "bot" did... At least I will know the adventure fully. What user-name did it have? Why didn't the channel like it? [12:23] * gnomefreak wonders if im the only one confused [12:23] gnomefreak: you are (; [12:23] Tm_T: thanks [12:24] looking at logs in a min [12:24] Gryllida: problem is, you're not telling the truth about other things, so I don't see why you would tell the truth about bot [12:24] Where I am not telling the truth? [12:25] the link is to a mailing list what does a bot or #ubuntu have to do with that :( [12:25] * gnomefreak goes back into corner until i am caught up [12:25] This is the support question I have. I wanted to ask it at #ubuntu. [12:25] gnomefreak: this is person who has been banforwarded here because there's been misbehaviour from the very same ip [12:25] Tm_T: ah [12:26] good starting point :P [12:26] Was there a liar nicknamed "Gryllida" before? [12:26] Should I register my nick? [12:27] couldnt hurt [12:27] Where should I do it? [12:27] !register [12:27] Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode [12:27] :) yay it was right one [12:27] Hm, now I will wonder what "ops" is in alike manner... [12:27] !ops [12:27] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [12:27] Gryllida called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [12:28] what? [12:28] oh please dont do that [12:28] 'Gryllida: Please don't do that. [12:28] Ops = channel emergency... Now I know. Thanks, ubottu. [12:28] this the spellingbot guy? [12:28] No, of course. [12:28] is any of you willing to take control of this issue? I just don't have the time [12:28] bazhang: same ip [12:28] Tm_T, yep [12:29] I just saw the "!register" line and wandered what "!ops" is in alike manner.... I don't know what "ops" is. [12:29] thanks, I need to vanish again (: [12:29] Gryllida, you were running the spellingbot in #ubuntu earlier [12:29] I'll ask ubottu [12:29] !spelling bot [12:29] " Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling bot" [12:30] Gryllida, did you wish to resolve this? [12:30] Who is ubottu? [12:30] ubottu who are you? [12:30] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:30] Gryllida, could you please focus on the matter at hand and answer my question? [12:30] aa [12:31] Another bot... Seems that everybody here makes bots... [12:31] Okay, [12:31] !how to make a bot [12:31] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:31] Gryllida, I'll ask again, did you wish to resolve this? [12:31] Administrators, I am sorry for this stuff... I am just new here, I am a computer science student... [12:33] I didn't know that "!" is an operator. This chat was in English up to this point. Some programming languages have operators... I found this one "!" operator and tried it out. Seems that it works when I talk with ubottu privately... [12:34] Only English has no operators... [12:34] Any other operators here? [12:35] aa, I see, this is "OPs", "OPeratorS", must be plenty of them. Strange... Maybe "==" is an operator here too? I will test it at ubottu's room... [12:35] Gryllida: why not learn a programming language with your time instead? At the end you could say, "that was productive, I learned a programming language" What you are doing now is just wasting your and other's time [12:36] This programming language ... I know JS, XML, C++, Visual Basic, XUL, but nothing like "!register" or "!ops" before [12:36] This is interesting [12:36] Gryllida: and then you could program an artificial op, and try to troll him. It would be like playing chess against yourself, you always win [12:37] Artificial operator? No, there are plenty of them already, "+", "add", "!"... I find using existing languages enough for any purpose [12:38] Gryllida: can you move on? [12:38] yes [12:38] Gryllida: anyway *I'm* off to do more productive things, good luck [12:38] I am turning some things into experiments sometimes... [12:39] Sometimes it's dangerous, but you see I stopped [12:40] Didn't any new user wonder what ops is in an alike manner? I am pretty surprised.... Anyhow, good for this channel [12:40] seems to be nothing left to discuss then [12:43] the lad in #ubuntu is correct, there is some redirect, on that page (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ideas_in_preparation/) [12:45] I've registered my nick and I think that when enabling a new input locale in Ubuntu I will need operators. (I'm telling this because you told me to "feel free to return if you have something that the operators can help with.") [12:45] the operators as the people with moderator rights? [12:46] no [12:46] and yes too [12:46] feel free to accustomize yourself with the irc lingo [12:46] because I still want to join #ubuntu [12:46] thats what it means here [12:46] ok I remember [12:47] I promise to not use a "!" without first asking ubottu what it is. [12:47] e.g. what the word following ! can trigger [12:48] jussi01: seems they don't escape HTML tags, so scripts can be inserted [12:48] are there any other dangerous ...symbols I should use with care? [12:48] ok, i give up on this one [12:49] did spelling bot also say " ! ... ops " ? [12:49] i am curious to know what the bot was like [12:50] * Mamarok is wondering if this is ever going anywhere... [12:50] anyone know the brainstorm channel? I am getting nothing from alis [12:50] Gryllida: we are not discussing about that here, only if you are willing to discuss about the (reason of the) ban honestly [12:51] can you un-ban me? [12:51] Gryllida: not until we have discussed the issue honestly [12:51] begin [12:52] I am doing it for the last ... about hour [12:52] no, you haven't [12:52] I had [12:52] No? Why do you think so? [12:53] the nick was wre then morphed to spelling bot [12:53] ask a question [12:53] i'll answer honestly [12:53] same exact IP address [12:53] aa... you want me to ask bob greenwill where his spelling bot is, right? [12:54] Gryllida: oh come on [12:54] i already asked him... he said he imitated it, e.g. did many copy and paste operations... [12:54] did the bot output similar lines? [12:55] i think there should have been some irregularity in the bot's work... didn't you guess that it was a human? [12:56] Gryllida: doesn't matter [12:57] Gryllida: I see this issue cannot be dealt this time, please come back no sooner than 24 hours AND with honest attitude, thanks [12:58] Gryllida: please leave now [13:03] bah, was just about to do that [13:04] what is indus up to? [13:07] rww, my home page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_spelling [13:07] I am polite here. The impolite thing was the "! ops" line (now I write it with a space). Other were just fine... please un-ban me [13:07] he was trolling quite a bit earlier as the user 'wre' [13:07] aa, I went away, you started to discuss the bot [13:07] come along ;) [13:08] Gryllida, it's not been 24 hours [13:08] well, you banned it, it just couldn't [13:08] the bot couldn't operate for 24 hours since you banned it [13:08] no surprise [13:09] did it give the line " my home page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_spelling" many times ? [13:09] wait, is that channel #ubuntu logged anywhere? [13:09] I just am curious to read it somewhen [13:10] !logs [13:10] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [13:11] I wasn't smart enough to ask ubottu about logs. Seems that I will try to find ubottu's dictionary index sometime. Thank you. I am visiting the links. [13:12] Maybe I will see that channel in read-only mode now ;) [13:12] Gryllida: With an hour-delay, sure. [13:14] No. Don't you see it's a human? First ikonia asked him, then rww, but he responded to rww first . February 17, [12:18] [13:14] "No" is expression of my surpeise [13:15] now the Q is how I don't let Bob find my chatzilla in future... [13:15] Gryllida, your ban won't be lifted until there is some resolution to this. The best way to go forward is to come back in 24 hours with a more honest and open attitude [13:16] this was because I forgot to log off. Bob plays many games and this was just another one. [13:16] Gryllida, there won't be a debate on the logs. [13:18] Don't worry, I will come back in a week after I install Ubuntu. Then I think Bob will talk with you about it. [13:18] Bye [13:18] Thanks for letting me look at the "bot". It is a human. While it is me here, it is nothing dangerous ;) [13:18] Okay then. [13:19] word [13:19] Groovy. [13:33] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from jackbrown) [13:38] if (tree.dataDescriptor.hasChildren(e.itemRenderer.data)) [13:38] { [13:38] oups, sorry [13:39] * topyli steals niko's code [13:50] fyi Gryllida wasn't actually as bot, it was someone pretending to be a bot [13:50] hi [13:50] hello [13:51] 1 question,how do you people assign work among yourselves for 1 day, for example, 1 op cannot do it all day [13:52] it's just self managed [13:52] magic [13:52] really? [13:53] yup, quite easy with people split across time zones [13:53] and a bit of self managment [13:53] ok,so when selecting the ops,they keep this in mind ? [13:54] time zone, sure [13:54] more or less [13:54] so how many countries are all of you from [13:54] any op from india? [13:54] many, across the world [13:54] don't know [13:54] but that time zone is certainly covered [13:54] you not in contact with all the other ops? [13:55] the india timezone is taken care of by overlap of eastern asia/australia and europe [13:55] yes, but can't remember where everyone is from all the time [13:55] you surely must have meetings regularlt no? [13:55] yes there are meetings [13:55] I can't think of anyone from indian specifically [13:55] ok [13:57] ok thanks , had few more questions but forgot now [13:57] aha got 1 [13:57] go on [13:57] i have noticed , the ops rarely return your greetings, is that an irc thing? [13:57] honest question that one [13:57] errrrr people normally say "i" [13:57] indus: return your greetings? [13:57] "hi" [13:58] i may not know you personally, but i see all of you often in #ubuntu and do say hi once in a while but never comes back [13:58] why is it [13:58] indus: saying "hi" back in ubuntu would be 1400 users, [13:58] channel scroll [13:58] legit way to reduce chatter? [13:59] indus: if you say "hi" in ubuntu normally few people say hi back, not just ops [13:59] indus: if you say hi in #ubuntu-offtopic you michgt get a better response [13:59] lol [13:59] maybe you missed the point [14:00] i rephrase the question, is saying hi discouraged and you suggest users directly start with their questions? [14:00] indus: users are free to say hi when they enter, but we dont encourage it [14:01] I'd say not discouraged but not also mandatory [14:01] what he said ^^ [14:01] jussi01, also, iam not quite sure why you told me i might get a better response in off topic [14:01] indus: for saying "hi"? because it's the chat channel, not support channel, and with less people [14:02] indus: if you want people to greet you, say hi in -offtopic, more people are likely to chatter... [14:03] seems like i hit a brick wall in here [14:03] indus: ? [14:03] nvm , see you around [14:03] ?? [14:05] those two characters pretty much encapsulate discussions with indus, in my experience. [14:06] though i usually go for the third, just for balance. [15:21] Oops forgot to /away [15:23] :p [15:23] I forget that too often. [15:26] * genii sneaks MenZa another coffee from /away-land [15:27] \o === KB1JWQ is now known as PFY === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ [15:36] persia: mind doing a +b *!*@unaffiliated/eagles0513875$##fix_your_connection in -motu [15:36] thanks jpds [15:36] that bouncing hurt me eyes [15:36] Myrtti: Apparently I can't. I discovered about 15 hours ago that I'm not an op on -motu as previously thought :( [15:37] aw [15:37] I expect this to be resolved at some point, but ... :) [15:38] Thanks jpkds [15:38] s/k// [15:40] off to work, later [15:41] hey guys can i get unbanned from kubuntu ubuntu+1 and ubuntu-motu. i honestly dont know what was happening with my connection but it seems everythign is fine now [15:42] eagles0513875: sure [15:42] thanks Pici honestly dont know what happened. just let me know when the ban has been lifted [15:43] eagles0513875: you're all set. [15:43] thanks Pici and sry about that === GazzaK is now known as Gary [16:34] I think andreas_ in #ubuntu is a bot, not being very productive and not responding to pleas to be so [16:45] * MenZa ponders /arbn andreas_ hurr durr ban hurrrr [16:46] Pici: Are you talking to him, or should I open up a /query? [16:47] MenZa: I'm juggling a few different things right now, you can talk to him if you wish. [16:47] Pici: Gone now - should I add a forward here? [16:50] Do we have auto_bleh for seven yet? [16:54] * MenZa runs off for lunch. [16:58] MenZa: are you in my timezone now? [17:02] he's clearly drifting again [17:11] darthanubis telling user to just google it in #kubuntu [17:12] bazhang: He should be telling them to upgrade to GNOME. [17:12] ha [17:12] he's banned in #ubuntu for that behaviour btw [17:30] Pici: Perhaps, perhaps. [17:38] someone want to step in on #kubuntu ? darthanubis has pretty much alienated everyone [17:40] eeeerrrrrrrr [17:45] wth? [17:46] I just got back to my desk and I'm thinking the same thing. [17:47] hello [17:47] hi [17:48] i was in #ubuntu a few minutes ago and tried to inform someone of the spanish channel, and freenode banned my ip instantly for "spamming" [17:48] i'm now on a different computer/ip and using my other nick...just wondering if someone can unban me since i really wasn't spamming [17:48] hcook: you need to talk to freenode about that [17:48] In ubottu, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [17:49] jussi01: how do i go about that? [17:49] hcook: join #freenode [17:49] but also, you guys should probably look into why freenode thinks that " [17:49] hcook: we are looking into it [17:49] look at 17:38 gmt you can see my other nick (yaaar) just doing "!es | Sifrega" [17:50] jussi01: ok, thanks. i'll get with freenode on the ban. just wanted to let yo uknow [17:50] hcook: what nick were you suign when it happened? [17:50] * Dominian just got here [17:51] hcook: ping [17:55] jussi01: thanks for the ping,, I think we got it sorted now [17:55] Dominian: great . :) [17:55] Dominian: Thanks [18:00] sorry for the issues guys.. man [18:00] what a nightmare [18:00] hehe [18:00] the bot will need to email klines@ [19:18] Dominian: hows that kline situation? [19:18] jussi01: er.. it was fixed a while ago [19:18] :) [19:18] at least within minutes of it occurring [19:18] Dominian: great, just wanted to make sure :D [19:19] no worries :0 [20:06] Ascy_Vamal called the ops in #ubuntu-women () [21:32] have we a nice shiny new auto_Bleh yet? [22:34] Haallo. Why can't I send to channel #ubuntu ? [22:39] It says "#ubuntu #ubuntu-ops Forwarding to another channel" and "#ubuntu Cannot send to channel". Help! [22:42] !help [22:42] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [22:42] Why can't I send to channel #ubuntu ? [22:42] The same reason you couldn't last night. [22:42] ? [22:42] I removed the bot several hour ago. [22:43] the "bot" who was a human [22:43] He is now very far [22:43] Aha, so you did know what the problem was. [22:43] So I told you. [22:43] No, you tried to claim you didn't know [22:45] I am not going to tell about how I removed it, you will laugh so that you'll be unable to type anything... Then you will not be able to un-ban me. No, making you laugh that lot is not what I am going to do. [22:45] jussi01, still around? [22:46] i need to go to work, you'll have to wait for someone else [22:46] Is an un-ban so long? [22:59] Hi! Please open me the door to #ubuntu ! [23:00] hello Gryllida [23:00] hello [23:00] Gryllida: can you explain to me why someone was pretending to be a bot using your computer and xchat client ? [23:00] ban [23:00] seeing as I was the one who placed the abn [23:00] Sorry, what is "abn"? [23:01] ban [23:01] Well, I don't think you will believe me. [23:01] ikonia: No, they were using chatzilla. [23:01] I am using it now too. [23:02] The problem that I told the right things here yesterday but they didn't believe me. [23:02] ahh chatzilla sorry [23:02] my notes said xchat, the ban was chatzilla though on firefox [23:02] Gryllida: can you explain why on multiple occasions someone has pretended to be a bot using your PC [23:03] Because my friends had a party. They were the people whom I didn't see for several years. They were here about 2 weeks. Several hours ago they departed... [23:03] We had a party at my home [23:04] I almost always logged off [23:04] Gryllida: ok - that's nonsense [23:04] But when I didn't Bob did some strange things [23:04] You're calling my friend nonsense! [23:04] You offend me! [23:04] Gryllida: you where logged on as one nick, and kicked for your attitude, and you came back as "spelling_bot" 2 minutes later [23:04] You think bad of him since he looked like a bot. [23:05] That was Bob. I'm sure it was him. [23:05] so are you trying to suggest that you where using IRC in the middle of a party, got kicked, then 2 minutes later, someone else - without your knowledge logged to you computer and pretneded to be a bot [23:05] Now he is far away. [23:05] Bob was using it on Feb 17 [23:05] all day ? [23:05] Yes. [23:05] I thought it was at a party ? [23:06] The party was in one room... The computer was upstairs. [23:06] all day ? [23:06] Bob went upstairs... I didn't see that he disappeared. [23:06] Yes, all day. [23:06] you do know your real name on the irc client is "bob" [23:06] eg: you are bob [23:07] Gryllida is me, my registered nick [23:07] yet your client real name is "Bob" [23:07] Maybe he set it to "Bob", wait I will look [23:08] ikonia: not to mention he did use bobgreenwill nick today [23:08] err, yesterday [23:08] Yes, not surprising. [23:09] I would not know anything about Bob's activity if he didn't leave the "Bob Greenwill" name in my chatzilla. [23:09] Tm_T: yes, [23:09] I was getting to that [23:09] and the q0k nick name as well as wre [23:10] Gryllida: the fact is I personally think you are not telling the truth. [23:10] Bob could have used 100 names that day, I would not be surprised. [23:10] either that or you are not really in control of your computer [23:10] Gryllida: was bob using the PC on the 10th of Feb to ? [23:10] The second one. [23:10] Yes... But I think that wasn't so long. [23:10] Gryllida: ok, while you're not in control of your computer I can't remove the ban [23:10] ooh, so that was bob to on the 10th [23:10]