[00:00] xfact: timevault, maybe? Though I'm not sure if it can back up to another drive. [00:00] idk: recognized by what? [00:00] xfact: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault [00:00] meowbuntu: ftp, http or torrent are all fine. Often torrent is the fastest because lots of different people can share the load, but the end result is the same in all cases [00:00] Any easy backup tool for Ubuntu? I am about to change my HDD, so asking.. [00:00] !restoregrub | M1DLGpc [00:00] !recoveringgrub | M1DLGpc [00:00] M1DLGpc: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [00:01] !backup | xfact (disclaimer: I've never used any of these) [00:01] xfact (disclaimer: I've never used any of these): There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [00:01] dabaR, when i try to change my resolution, it says my monitor isnt recognized, and i only have options for 800 x 600 and 640 x 480 [00:01] need some help with grub [00:01] getting error 15: file not found [00:01] !resolution |idk [00:01] idk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [00:02] but when i try "e" cant edit root somewhere to boot hd(0,0) [00:02] I thought we were to backup grub not restore it??? [00:02] * dabaR surrenders [00:02] ta, but i lost my grub instal, and a faulty partiton has lost my ubuntu that was installed there. I only need to gain access to my old windoqws drive because i wont boot and was last shut down with hibernate so it's unmountable. all I want to do is a new istall of ubuntu filling the whole drive after recovering everything off first [00:03] xfact: to backup your installation, which will then be able to run without installing on the new HD? [00:03] ubuntu is less agrovation [00:03] M1DLGpc: but when you boot ubuntu live, you can not mount the windows drive? [00:04] it refuses because it was hibernated [00:04] can someone please help me with grub? [00:04] dabaR, right, I have to backup the system also [00:04] daber it will not let me delete it either woth the suggested commands [00:04] M1DLGpc: sorry, I misread. you want to restore the windows boot loader. [00:04] howdy. trying to get a wireless USB chipset working. 050d:705a; uses the rt73 driver, I believe. I put the thing into ad-hoc mode, and it broadcasts garbage. this is on 2.6.31.6-x6.0 (ARMv7l). [00:04] how do i setup my wifi to rome? -.- [00:04] only need it till the week end [00:05] Sweat: how did you lose usage of grub? [00:05] never did lose usage, just after a fresh install [00:05] Sweat: Ah,. [00:05] it wouldnt boot [00:05] How did you install? [00:06] eehm 1 lvm for home, 1 ext2 boot and 1 ext3 for root [00:06] xfact: never heard of that. [00:06] Hello Everyone! [00:06] Sweat: using the desktop CD? [00:06] Hope you are all well and in good health. [00:06] dabaR: i googled into this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261 post 9 [00:07] but cant find root when i pres "e" in the grub menu [00:07] to boot from hd(0,0) [00:07] I should totally explain the problem [00:08] dabar- I just fixed it, I couldn't get it to understand the name of the drive "win XP" because of the space, when I was working in console. I changed it to a wildcard and it said it was not able to work, but it fixed it anyway [00:08] thanks [00:08] M1DLGpc: good job you! [00:08] :) [00:08] is rm that command for deleting a file [00:08] I still doubt understnading why it doesn't understand spoaces in foldernames in consol [00:09] od3n: do you use the Ubuntu desktop, or just the server? [00:09] I am just using decktop [00:09] Sweat: I see... [00:09] desktop now [00:09] Sweat: So it does not boot into ubuntu after a normal install with the desktop CD? [00:09] I will set up a server in my room at some point just not yet [00:09] hi im running ubuntu 9.10 on a eeepc 701 so far so good but id like to know how to get rid of recent documents entry in places menu [00:10] My old 80Gb HDD has 'bad sectors' (Ubuntu disk utility saying) and I am thinking about to exchange it to 160 GB HDD, but after that I do not want to setup the whole Ubuntu again, so I am asking for any ways to get back all the major settings without setting up one after one again. [00:10] od3n: and why don't you just right click on a file and move to trash? [00:10] Has anyone here installed Plesk on there box. [00:10] dabaR: No, using ubuntu server [00:10] bulltitan: is it possible to right click then remove from menu? [00:10] xfact, inless i'm corrected, gparted is good enough for that task [00:11] no i think it is part of the applet but there might be a way arround to delete it [00:11] Sweat: an ubuntu server CD? And it won't boot, right? [00:11] ye [00:11] if you have concers about doing it in ubuntu it can be downloaded as a live disk in it's oewn right [00:11] i know how to disable it but i want it off the menu [00:11] or ran from live ubuntu disk [00:11] Sweat: OK, so try hd(0,1), and hd(0,2) [00:11] M1DLGpc, But gparted is a partition tool, I am talking about to replacing the HDD, not upgrading. [00:11] Sweat: you have only one HD in the computer, right? [00:12] i want to, but where do i need to edit? cause when i enter grub menu, press "e" i see 4 lines.. [00:12] If I make a karmic live cd using Remastersys is there a way to give the cd full permissions to my HDD when it loads? [00:12] 2 hd [00:12] you can copy from one drive to another, then expand the size of partiton [00:12] so i am sure it must be hd(0,0) [00:12] bulltitan: Oh, the whole places menu? [00:12] but where do i need to edit? [00:12] cause I am using a live cd to fix some stuff as a last ditch effort to fix something [00:13] no just the recent documents entry [00:13] i got 4 lines, uuid, kernel, initrd and quiet [00:13] Sweat: just cause it has 2 hard disks, that does not mean it is hd(0,) [00:13] 00 [00:13] i am sure i installed grub on 0,0 [00:14] anyway, i couldnt try yet [00:14] cause i dont know where to edit it [00:14] Sweat: and you don't get a grub boot menu at start? [00:14] i do [00:14] i even did [00:14] find /grub/stage1 [00:14] :( [00:14] thats hd(0,0) [00:15] when i want to edit the bootlines(or something) i dont know where to edit to hd(0,0) [00:15] and was wondering that the command to rename a file was or should I just cp it [00:16] * PsychoMari0 [00:16] ...oh I was going to ask about solutions for watching the NBC Olympics coverage but I see a preview version of Moonlight 3 is out now [00:16] I fixed part of my issue with thinkfinger. the package had to be built from source configuring thinkfinger for pam authentication. [00:16] od3n: mv renames [00:16] how can I compile a .po file into a .gmo file? google gives me nothing viable... [00:16] not, however, when i log in with a finger print I have to use my password for my keyring [00:17] ok thanks [00:17] a suggested work around is to put 'echo "PASSWORD" | /path/to/pam-keyring-tool -u -s' in my .bashrc file (replacing 'PASSWORD' with my password of course). [00:17] by the way i have another question, the power manager applet in gnome displays all the battery info wrong is there a fix for this? [00:17] how can I have find show me all .cpp or h files with a single command? [00:17] dabaR: so where do i need to edit it in grub? [00:18] find ./ -regex ".*\.[h|cpp]" only shows headers [00:18] this didn't work however, is there somewhere besides bashrc I should put this echo statement? [00:18] bulltitan: did you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556592 ? [00:18] ok last question I have a file called menu.lst~ [00:19] nope but i will do right now thanks [00:19] Sweat: when you boot, you should be able to get to an grub boot menu editor. [00:19] i dont know why but all of a sudden my wireless connection keeps dying on me. I must restart the connection to get it to work form 5 min then do it again. Anyone help? [00:19] ye i am right now [00:19] what is that file, I know what menu.lst is but not sure what the ~ denotes [00:19] Sweat: so, edit it. [00:19] what part do i need to edit? i got 4 lines [00:19] Sweat: I mean, it is somewhat almost unlikely that you will be able to fix what the installer could not configure, IMHO [00:20] od3n: ~ probably refers to a backup of the original file. you can open the menu.lst~ file up in an editor and check. [00:20] Sweat: what are the lines? Can you post it to pastebin? [00:20] ho yeah thats the disable solution yep ive read that one [00:20] not sure how to, cant connect trough ssh :) [00:20] can anyone helP? [00:20] Sweat: if you can read it, you could type it... [00:20] teklob: you want to use '(' instead of '['; also you might need to to backslash-escape them along with the '|' [00:20] ya I think I got it working [00:21] i know it might be a cosmetic question to you folks just like the power manager but its important to me [00:22] teklob: the [...] construction specifies one of the included characters. [00:22] so I got it to boot sort of now its doing a fsck [00:22] hi [00:23] teklob: documentation is via man 7 regex [00:24] teklob: though there may be some differences, I'm not sure which type of regex find uses, looks like 'emacs' by default. [00:25] hi, on ubuntu server, I usually use sudo aptitude install .. Does anyone know if I can use aptitude to install php 6 and if so how? thanks [00:25] here4thegear: yeah [00:26] teklob: man 7 regex describes 'egrep'-style regexps; IIRC I usually use those style with find. you should be able to pass the flag '-regextype posix-extended' to find to select that type for sure. [00:26] here4thegear: like aptitude install pkg=version [00:27] hi all .. my wireless is enabled but disabled in NetworkManager .. i have no check to enable it .. how can i check this [00:27] i tried ifconfig eth2 up [00:27] no go [00:27] PingFloyd: oh, ok I'll try that out.. I'm wanting to test some things out on it. [00:27] i also tried iwconfig eth2 up [00:28] macman_: wireless is usually wlan0 [00:28] eth2 shows up for 802.11 [00:28] depends on driver [00:29] macman_: what kind of laptop is it? [00:29] how do i renable the wireless .. i have Enable networking checked .. and i have Enable wireless greyed out [00:29] here4thegear dell studio 17 [00:29] Can someone help me? Upon upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 my wireless has stopped working. Network manager doesn't even acknowledge I have anything wifi. I have the restricted driver install. I don't have an enable wireless checkbox. I'm currently on a wired connection. [00:29] legacy ieee80211 framework based driver, including some proprietary ones may have other interface naming.. ipw2200 for example uses ethX, broadcom-sta uses ethX, ralink driver (direct from ralink website) is raX [00:30] macman_, pastebin your lspci -nnk output [00:30] how i know which the channel using my router?thanks [00:30] How do I reset my keychain password? [00:31] Serpico, go into router config and check [00:31] I'm confused on the way Nautilus displays the file permissions... [00:31] Hello everyone. I'm a first-time Ubunto user with my very first problem. I've installed Ubunto v. 9.10 on my Acer Aspire 3003 and the colors are all wrong. I tried to find an answer on the internet, but noone wrote out instructions for newbies. I have no idea of what to do. [00:31] Ziggyzxxyl, iwlist [wlan-interface] scan [00:31] sry, that goes to Serpico ^^ [00:31] for instance, Nautilus displays the owner of this file as brian - Brian then the group as brian [00:31] what does that mean? [00:32] Can someone help me? Upon upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 my wireless has stopped working. Network manager doesn't even acknowledge I have anything wifi. I have the restricted driver install. I don't have an enable wireless checkbox. I'm currently on a wired connection. [00:32] psycho_oreos, d3xter my router is blocked and i don't go into router config :( [00:32] loganhoup, pastebin your lspci -nnk output.. and I strongly advise against upgrades [00:33] Frijolie: normaly each user has his own group [00:33] klappi, I get that but why does it say "owner: brian - Brian"...what does that mean? [00:33] Serpico, what d3xter says is a command you can probe for wireless networks, you may need to do it a few times and if your AP name doesn't exist, you're almost pretty much SOL [00:34] the ls -l says "rwxr-x--- brian brian" [00:34] psycho_oreos:http://paste.ubuntu.com/378727/ [00:34] Frijolie, for those who owns the file [00:34] loganhoup: Ubuntu has serious problems when it comes to distributio upgrade. [00:34] I know. [00:34] I just didn't have the time to back up [00:34] well I'm brian and I can't rename the file. as soon as I rename it, it reverts back to what it used to be [00:35] Was it alright if I had to add a domain like such to satisfy Plesk installation upaddress computername.localhost.com [00:35] to hosts [00:35] I want to scrub a website (a specific one) which is full of links to wav files. On my remote server, I want to scrub that site (following links that are within that website) to find and download all the links to .wav files and then perform some tasks on those wav files. Where do I start to do the search of the site for the links to the wav files? [00:35] loganhoup, try sudo modprobe ath5k and see if there's wlanX interface [00:35] I've done chown "brian:brian" and chmod 750 on all files in that directory [00:35] psycho_oreos, d3xter how i can run this operation?(sorry for my english) [00:35] here4thegear: man wget [00:35] Serpico, you can run this command in any terminal [00:35] Serpico, Serpico , iwlist [wlan-interface] scan [00:35] Frijolie: and what did you expect ls -l to chow? [00:36] How do I reset my keychain password? I turned my 'puter on this morning and it was not accepting my keychain password to connect to my wireless... which is odd, because I had it the same as my log in password, which still worked for logging me in. Last time I had the computer on, I changed my login password. Now neither my new or old password can access the keychain thing. What do I do? [00:36] s/chow/show/ [00:36] ok thanks [00:36] blakkheim: thanks. [00:36] psycho_oreos: no output [00:36] Hello everyone. I'm a first-time Ubunto user with my very first problem. I've installed Ubunto v. 9.10 on my Acer Aspire 3003 and the colors are all wrong. I tried to find an answer on the internet, but noone wrote out instructions for newbies. Something about running /etc/X11/xorg.conf but where do I write that, and how do I access it? [00:36] Can anyone heplme with mathematica??? [00:36] Frijolie, try mv [00:36] the "ls - l" is what I expected it, but that's why I"m so confused cause i'm the owner and in the group but I still cannot rename the file [00:36] loganhoup, do sudo lsmod| grep ath5k [00:37] Sweat, Try just changing the boot order in the BIOS. [00:37] psycho_oreos, d3xter ok working thanks :D [00:37] Serpico, you're welcome [00:38] psycho_oreos, I know about that command..i know how to do renames but they don't stick [00:38] psycho_oreos: that made me connect. [00:38] no output on it [00:38] psycho_oreos, that's why I think I'm having file permissions issues === loganhoup1 is now known as loganhoup [00:38] hello [00:38] Frijolie, maybe there's a process that has a handle on the file [00:38] psycho_oreos: thank you. Is this a permanent fix? [00:38] psycho_oreos, just tried "mv" again, it doesn't go through. Tried mv, nautilus, gprename [00:39] Frijolie, if it was a perm error, it'll tell you at prompt imo [00:39] loganhoup, don't think so, its weird how its not set to load at boot === Wolf is now known as Guest93738 [00:39] hello [00:39] How do I reset my default keyring password? [00:39] yeah. This computer does some lovingly fun weird stuff. [00:39] psycho_oreos, when i do mv it just goes to an empty prompt (making you think it went through) then you "ls" again and it's back to the original [00:39] alguém fala português ? brazil ? [00:39] Frijolie, You need to have permission to edit that *directory*, a rename is an operation on a directory, not the file itself. [00:40] Psycho_oreos: So how do I make it permanent pray tell? [00:40] Frijolie, check via lso [00:40] Frijolie, I meant lsof [00:40] Ziggyzxxyl: i'm not really shure, try to delete (or rename) .gnupg in your home-folder [00:40] Jordan_U, yeah I thought about that as well parent, sub, and files are all 750 [00:40] loganhoup, I only know of a dirty hack, that is to add it into /etc/rc.local [00:40] Halvtand: please do grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:41] Ziggyzxxyl, just move ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring into another folder and then reboot [00:41] Frijolie, And you are the owner of the directory? [00:41] ok, thanks [00:41] Frijolie, have you tried to set the owner of this file? [00:41] yeah, parent directories, sub directories, and all files are 750 brian brian [00:41] My installation of Plesk failed [00:41] and Yes I'm brian [00:42] How do I remove the files if it did not finish successfully? [00:42] i have done chmod 750 * on all directories in that folder as well as chown brian:brian [00:42] Frijolie, And you say you don't get any error when you use mv? [00:42] klappi how do i do that? I'm a first-timer, don't really know where to look for stuff in this yet. [00:42] hey i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [00:42] ubyserver, depends on how its installed [00:42] psycho_oreos: ummmm. How do I do that? [00:42] pinkspider: #ubuntu-br [00:42] Halvtand: do you have console open? [00:42] Jordan_U, nope, no error message. When I rename via Nautilus (right-click > rename) it allows me to rename the file but then ~2 seconds later it reverts [00:43] klappi no console, staring at the desktop [00:43] psycho_oreos: Alright so that means what? [00:43] Psycho_oreos: That is, add it to /etc/rc.local. [00:43] Halvtand: dont you got xterm? [00:43] ubyserver, how did you exactly install plesk? [00:43] I wish I could just reinstall [00:43] ./ parallels_installer_v3.5.0_build090817.16_os_Ubuntu_8.04_i386 [00:43] Oii ( : [00:43] any hacker ? [00:44] max is koning [00:44] loganhoup, yes, its a shell script, add it before exit 0 line and the words would be "modprobe ath5k" [00:44] okay [00:44] thanks [00:44] klappi xterm? What's that? [00:44] loganhoup, that's a cheap hack that will work on every bootup time [00:44] I've stumped the masters, huh? [00:44] hey, been using ubuntu for a few weeks, when I'm connecting HDMI to my tv the resolution is either way too big or without widescreen, I think I can fix it with the nvidia 190 or 195 driver, as they have overscanning compensation [00:44] Halvtand: ok you have bootet into gnome? [00:44] Frijolie, you haven't tried lsof yet [00:44] alright. I greatly appreciate the help. [00:44] Hey, i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [00:44] but it always says I'm running an xserver, and won't let me install [00:45] psycho_oreos, never heard of it [00:45] loganhoup, for the time being I'd try to find out why it won't autoload.. might it be blacklisted? etc [00:45] klappi I guess so, how do I tell? [00:45] Frijolie, it lists open files.. if you do lsof| grep it might show which processes has a handle on it [00:46] anyvary tell me what is the command for a creat a root? [00:46] Halvtand: press alt - F2 [00:46] Frijolie, Can you pastebin the output of "strace mv foo bar"? [00:46] Psycho_oreos: When I upgraded it asked if I wanted to keep or throw out something to do with blacklisting. [00:46] I'm pretty sure that concerned pulseaudio though. [00:46] klappi run application window comes up [00:46] Which is probably toast since the upgrade too... [00:47] Halvtand: type xterm there [00:47] ey i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [00:47] dazed_, I assume this is a wubi installation? [00:47] klappi ok, some kind of console [00:47] ya [00:47] Jordan_U: ya [00:47] #ubuntu -es [00:48] loganhoup, blacklisting keeps systems sane imo, without blacklist, some old and potentially problematic if not duplicate modules will be loaded for the exact same device found on your computer.. like your wifi chipset also has a driver known as madwifi-ng.. without blacklist and installing madwifi-ng you will find both of them autoloaded but only one will work [00:48] do all versions of virtualbox OSE support usb? [00:48] #ubuntu-es [00:48] proxy in ubuntu ? [00:48] Jordan_U: it was working all day and night yesterday through numerous reboots [00:48] Halvtand: congrats youve found the console new wonders and adventures ahead [00:48] psycho_oreos, lsof | grep returned no results [00:48] acalbaza_, No, the USB support is proprietary, the open source version doesn't have it. [00:48] Frijolie, tried what Jordan_U mentioned? [00:49] Jordan_U: i have navigated into my etc in the recovery shell anyway i can remake my fstab? [00:49] hi all wasn't paying attention .. how do i enable my wireless ? [00:49] klappi I feel sooooo stupid right here... Hopefully I'll learn this stuff pretty quickly.... What do I do now? [00:49] does anyone know of a GUI application that front-ends the running of one or more shell commands? [00:49] Jordan_U: thanks [00:49] macman_, you haven't pastebin your lspci -nnk outptu [00:49] psycho_oreos: where is the blacklisting thingy at for my wifi? [00:49] macman_, output* [00:49] (I have little to no idea what I'm talking about) [00:49] Halvtand: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:50] acalbaza_, np [00:50] loganhoup, there's no blacklisting specifically for wifi, there's a general blackllst that can be found in /etc/modprobe.d/ [00:50] #villagetelco [00:50] * bihuhn (Away Grund : Auto Away nach 60 min | Pager : OFF ) === bihuhn is now known as Xp-Away [00:50] join #villagetelco [00:50] Psycho_oreos: I remember being asked if I wanted that reset to default. I've made configurations to it before. I threw it out >_<. [00:50] hi does anybody know how i can change the default session during login? menu always defaults to xterm(should be gnome i think) [00:51] i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [00:51] Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/m1410b576 [00:51] loganhoup, well that doesn't help me much, probably a better idea is to pastebin the output for the contents of that blacklist file [00:51] slowlearner: do you use gdm? [00:51] Klappi grep: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory [00:51] psycho_oreos, ^ [00:51] klappi: yes [00:52] dazed_: what does your /etc/fstab contain? [00:52] Frijolie, its saying the file doesn't exist from the strace output [00:52] slowlearner: you can use gdmsetup to turn off autlogin this allows you to choose different sessions [00:52] im in etc and i dir'd it and found fstab but cant cd into it [00:52] psycho_oreos, well "foo bar" doesn't exist, correct [00:52] Frijolie, Ok, replace "foo" and "bar" with the actual names you are using, so just take your mv command and put strace in front of it [00:52] oh wow [00:52] that's a directory [00:52] dazed_: Its a file, not a directory [00:52] Frijolie, err you're meant to replace foo with the current filename and bar with new filename :p [00:52] How do I remove LAMP [00:52] psycho_oreos, Jordan_U, d'oh! [00:52] k0d3g3ar: i tried to mount it and it said cant find fstab in etc/fstab or /mtab [00:52] loganhoup, yes full of configs, look for blacklist or blacklist.conf [00:53] klappi: cool thanks! [00:53] Frijolie, :) [00:53] dazed_: But you said you can see it? Can you do a cat /etc/fstab [00:53] ubyserver, doesn't help if you don't say how exactly you installed it, from tar.gz? from deb? or what? [00:53] k0d3g3ar: yes a bunch of stuff popped up what do u need [00:53] ummm tasksel [00:53] repository [00:54] apt-get install [00:54] psycho_oreos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378739/ [00:54] Halvtand: grep LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:54] dazed_: Its not what I need.... its what you need. You need to understand what it says, and remove any lines that are not valid. Sounds like its trying to mount stuff that isn't there [00:54] ubyserver, for that case you can do apt-get remove.. but probably a better option is to use aptitude instead of apt-get [00:54] I only use command [00:54] so apt-get remove will do. [00:54] Thanx [00:55] loganhoup, weird, ath5k is not blacklisted, dmesg might have some info I presume [00:55] k0d3g3ar: well im lost at that point i dunno what i need or dont nee [00:55] yay logs... [00:55] to dualboot do i create one ect3 primary partition then the others root swap home inside the primary? [00:55] ext3 [00:55] dazed_: The format of each line should start with the source of what its trying to mount, the the mount type, then the destination of where it will mount it, etc. (or something like that - I can't remember the exact order but its pretty obvious when you look at the file) [00:55] loganhoup, there's many many ways to check for potential causes of why it won't autoload [00:56] Hey, I asked a question a while ago about ssh'ing back into a server that's running do-release-upgrade under screen. I'm getting an error from ssh_exchange_identification; I can actually access the machine but I'd like to continue running the upgrade via ssh. Anybody know more about this? Thanks [00:56] !help [00:56] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:57] !ssh [00:57] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [00:57] klappi got a lot of (II) LoadModule: "something different in every one" I know that my graphics should be the one that says "sis" [00:57] dazed_: Look at each line, and verify that the source of what it is trying to mount actually exists. If not, there's your problem. I suspect this is just a symptom of another problem you are having [00:57] first 2 lines: "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.dsk/ ext4 loop,errors=remount-ro 0" --- "host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk non swap loop,sw 0 0" [00:57] dazed_: ie. its trying to mount a nfs volume,and the nfs server is down. Or something like that [00:57] Hey all, what do I do if my / partition is getting full? [00:57] damagu: Purchase a new HD [00:57] damagu, find out where its using the most? [00:57] psycho_oreos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378742/ [00:57] damagu: clonezilla is your friend [00:58] tautologism: http://www.kriyayoga.com/love_blog/post.php/752 [00:58] next 2 lines begin with /dev/scd0 and /dev/fd0 and thats all there is [00:58] I'm trying to apt-get -f and it can't connect to my mysql server because of incorrect username/password. "psa-api-rpc" [00:58] Thanks for the sarcasm [00:58] Halvtand: are you talking from a seccond pc? [00:58] question about zeroconf : i have samba announcing its service from my laptop, but my service-discovery-applet on my desktop is not 'discovering' the laptop shares ... any thoughts. [00:58] dazed_: /dev/scd0 is your cdrom drive, /dev/fd0 is your floppy disk drive. Are they active and working? [00:58] damagu: If your / filesystem is separate from others like /usr /home /var /etc and so on, it may nto be that big of an issue...empty out /tmp and find crap that is taking up space [00:58] My / partition is 8GB but my hard drive is 500GB [00:58] Hence can't clean anything because it fails "Trying to establish test connection..." [00:59] loganhoup, hmm try modprobe -l| grep madwifi [00:59] And the log shows login error for mysql. [00:59] damagu: Yea, df -h should tell you which partitions you have other than / [00:59] what is buffer over flow ? [00:59] k0d3g3ar: yes cdrom works i dont have a floppy [00:59] diss3ntive: could it be because I have all these kernels [00:59] psycho_oreos, Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/m34b7bad6 [00:59] damagu: Then check out gparted - it should let you resize partitions. But be sure to read all the docs as you could wipe everything if you do it wrong [00:59] what is buffer over flow ? [00:59] damagu: I have no idea how you have your system set up, but /etc/fstab should define your mountpoints [00:59] klappi yes [00:59] damagu, well if / is full it means you've reached your maximum allocated fs for linux (generally) [00:59] psycho_oreos: no output. Should there be? [00:59] is there a way to use my phone's GPS through a usb on comp? [01:00] pinkspider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overflow [01:00] pinkspider, a memory corruption [01:00] ook' [01:00] d3xter: I tried to find the default.keyring file to move it, but I only have login.keyring and 5 hidden files .keyringRANDOMLETTERS in that folder... default.keyring does not appear to exist :( [01:00] dazed_: You can probably remove the mounting of the fd0 then... But if its complaining about the cdrom, something is wrong with your hardware or Ubuntu's ability to see it [01:00] epinky: thanks, lovely flowers by the way. I actually am running the upgrade under screen but I can't ssh back in. I've had this problem a few times, do-release-upgrade seems to do something that prevents new ssh connections. I can connect to the screen session from a console on the server itself, but I'd like to avoid this route for a couple reasons. [01:00] loganhoup, nope, just checking, strange interface naming, ath0 was meant to be for madwifi-ng not ath5k unless if I'm mistaken [01:00] diss3ntive: I have 8GB / but when I boot up grub is showing about 10 different kernels. Would removing some of them make space on / [01:00] Halvtand: ok because we might break your xorg now ^^ [01:00] k0d3g3ar: how do i remove the mounting of fd0 [01:01] damagu: yes [01:01] damagu: uninstall then via syntapic [01:01] Halvtand: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis [01:01] every time i log in i need to issue the command 'sudo setkeycodes 68 241' to get one of my tablet keys working. where can i store this so that it is done automatically with sudo permission?? [01:01] I can't remove something because it can't connect to mysql server. [01:01] dazed_: Boot with a recovery cd, and then sudo bash to get root access. Then just edit the file with vi or whatever your favorite editor is [01:01] ok [01:01] tautologism: if screen can't recover your session, nothing will do :) [01:01] .... [01:01] psycho_oreos: oddly, I've always had to use ath0 when I wanted to monitor my wifi in something like conky and such. [01:01] k0d3g3ar: ok [01:02] bastid_raZor: cool. That's easy. I didn't know you could do that. SHould I backup first or is removing kernels through synaptic safe? [01:02] damagu: That is located under /boot for the kernel images [01:02] !boot | k0d3g3ar follow this guide [01:02] k0d3g3ar follow this guide: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [01:02] Frijolie, I'd try enclosing the filenames in quotes and without backslashes [01:02] bastid_raZor: I'm not the one needing that info, dude [01:02] damagu: removing them is safe .. just be sure not to remove the current kernel [01:02] I'm attempting to install dansguardian with tinyproxy and firehol. It is working alright, except some websites fail to produce content. news.bbc.co.uk, dansguardian.org load the favicon, but the page is blank. See http://ln-s.net/52yc for the full bug report. Any ideas as to why this is happening? [01:02] is login.keyring the same as default.keyring? [01:02] the /boot partition should be on its own and / should be on its own [01:02] Ziggyzxxyl, then try to move login.keyring to another folder :) [01:02] how could I tell apt to stop reconfiguring an application when it's properly installed? [01:02] diss3ntive: I don't have a separate partition for /boot so it would be in the / partition too right? [01:02] k0d3g3ar: oh,.. whom ever needed it then there it is.. i thought you needed a startup script to run as roon on boot? [01:02] Ziggyzxxyl, i think so, because my login.keyring contains all my wlan-passwords and stuff [01:02] loganhoup, not that I'm doubting you, just that usually with ath5k, the interface is normally named wlanX instead of athX.. check iwconfig to see if there's wifiX as well [01:03] psycho_oreos, will do (excuse the corny music..hehe I'm embarassed) [01:03] d3xter: ok [01:03] diss3ntive: IOW not in my /home partition [01:03] !boot | ericjames follow this.. [01:03] ericjames follow this..: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [01:03] k0d3g3ar: sorry.. bad eyes on my part [01:03] ehhhhhh, you dont have a /boot partition?!? [01:03] np [01:03] epinky: no no screen can recover the session, I can do $(screen -x update) just fine from the server. The problem is that my ssh connections are being rejected with the error "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". They worked just fine prior to starting do-release-upgrade; that's how I started the process. [01:03] diss3ntive: I don't have a separate /boot. I have / and /home [01:03] Frijolie, never head of that song but everyone has different tastes [01:03] Psycho_oreos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378746/ [01:04] klappi nothing broke. xserver-xorg-video-sis is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 219 not upgraded. [01:04] damagu: cat /etc/fstab | grep boot | wc -l [01:04] 0 or 1? === sebi_` is now known as sebi` [01:04] epinky: I'd like to continue the upgrade over ssh so I don't have to go into the other room every time I have to merge configuration files. Mostly though I'd like to know why do-release-upgrade changes sshd's behaviour. [01:04] loganhoup, yeah that's definitely ath5k driver, not madwifi-ng umm maybe modinfo ath5k and check to see if the vid:pid matches [01:05] diss3ntive: 0 [01:05] diss3ntive: a /boot partition isn't required [01:05] I know its not....Its just weird dood doesn't have one [01:05] diss3ntive: Not really [01:05] diss3ntive: not weird at all. nor important for what he needs [01:05] diss3ntive: Well I didn't create one [01:05] odd, a normal update and ubuntu wants to install postfix on my desktop :/ [01:05] yea, does Ubuntu actually install an OS without a /boot partition? [01:05] diss3ntive: Different needs [01:05] seems it's been tied to lsb-core [01:05] diss3ntive: sure does [01:05] Halvtand: 219 not upgraded is very bad [01:05] sheeh [01:06] more people believe that elvis is alive than believe that the stimulus bill has created jobs [01:06] diss3ntive: normally Ubuntu just dumps everything in one partition.... no? [01:06] Halvtand: you should update your system before trying to fix it [01:06] I now know why 1% of my machines are Ubuntu [01:06] im having an audio problem here in my laptop... can anyone help me??? [01:06] Honestly all one needs to install is / and swap [01:06] diss3ntive: I created / and /home so that I could keep /home on upgrades [01:06] damagu: I am not sure what Ubuntu does for install [01:06] Halvtand: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade [01:06] Halvtand: to get those updates run this command in terminal: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ..it will NOT change distrobutions but only fully update your box. [01:06] diss3ntive: oh yeah and swap [01:06] psycho_oreos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378749/ [01:06] yea, root and swap is minimal.... [01:06] ok [01:06] bastid_raZor: thanks. can setkeycodes be used as a boot option? [01:06] is there anyway to try to get gdm to start in some kind of safe/compatibility mode? all i get is a black screen on tty7 [01:06] I am having a problem with the resolution on my monitor which is a digital flat screen telly with a VGA port. It's plugged into VGA, any ideas how to fix this? [01:06] tautologism: maybe you'll have to wait timeout, try closing all your ssh and sftp clients [01:07] then yea your kernel images are located under /boot and it will free up space for / [01:07] psycho_oreos, hmm, I think the quotes did it...I didn't know that you could do it that way. I've always been messin around with those friggin slashes [01:07] Halvtand: that gives you the latest patches and versions of all installed packages (apps) [01:07] bastid_raZor: also, I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file [01:07] psycho_oreos, why wouldn't a simple right-click > rename work though, I'm still confused as why one method would work and not another [01:07] ericG: Don't need on in GRUB2 [01:07] can someone give me an example of what a cli ssh command should look like using a ssh key? [01:07] ericjames, that is [01:07] ericjames: i don't know if you can add them that way.. adding the command to /etc/rc.local will do what you need [01:08] just dont go delete happy, and know which ones you are deleteing...when you are done you will need to edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf to del the deleted kernels [01:08] yo09384 something like 'ssh user@host -i keyfile' [01:08] loganhoup, need you to pastebin that lspci -nnk again [01:08] ey i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [01:08] Halvtand: if there are still not 0 not upgraded do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [01:08] klappi ok, typing.... [01:08] Frijolie, probably it couldn't interpret spaces and stuff [01:08] syn-ack: bastid_raZor: thanks, appreciated [01:08] tautologism: also you can try "rm ~/.ssh/know_hosts" in your remote host, then logout and retry [01:08] is lsb-core an important package? it seems like it is... [01:09] epinky: what's the timeout a timeout of? [01:09] panfist, ok so the key is a file not an acutual code i would type out like ssh -p 8080 user@host 983ez9328s? [01:09] psycho_oreos, wait I think I have spoken too soon. I'm trying to rename another file in the same directory and we're back to square one [01:09] ok staring back at my xbox, bbiab [01:09] Frijolie, it most likely meant to the program that its an extra parameter or argument when it isn't [01:09] how could I tell apt to stop reconfiguring an application when it's properly installed? [01:09] Frijolie, using quotes? [01:09] psycho_oreos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378750/ [01:09] psycho_oreos, yup :( [01:10] tautologism: that would be translated as "Try later" :) [01:10] is there anyway to try to get gdm to start in some kind of safe/compatibility mode? all i get is a black screen on tty7 [01:10] loganhoup, weird, there's a matching vid:pid for it [01:10] Frijolie, do the strace mv "filename long A" "filename long B" and pastebin it [01:11] ey i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [01:11] klappi downloading of stuff taking place, 10 min left until explosion... [01:12] psycho_oreos: I'm sorry. I have no idea what that means. [01:12] bastid_raZor: how do I found out what kernels I'm not using? Or what kernel I am using? [01:12] Halvtand: ^^ [01:12] loganhoup, it means that its supposed to be autoloaded but it didn't for some weird reason [01:12] damagu: uname -a will show you your current kernel [01:12] psycho_oreos, http://pastebin.com/m3aa3b5d2 [01:12] Halvtand: hope you have enough beer on stock! i have ^^ [01:12] dazed: enter recovery mode and edit /etc/fstab by hand, comment out offending line [01:13] epinky: like how much later? It's been like this for an hour or so; i haven't had any open connections to the server during that time. [01:13] Frijolie, and does the file Dreaming.flac exist? [01:13] bastid_raZor: thanks. And do I remove just the kernel images or the headers or both? [01:13] psycho_oreos, of course [01:13] bastid_raZor: or is there something else I should remove? [01:13] psycho_oreos, all the mv command is being done from within that directory [01:13] tautologism: then try removing know_hosts ssh file [01:14] klappi Yeah, I have, but I've got work in the morning... They don't take kindly to people comming in drunk... [01:14] panfist, from grub you can choose the recovery boot option [01:14] damagu, uname -a [01:14] how could I tell apt to stop reconfiguring an application when it's properly installed? [01:14] epinky: on the server or on the client? I did on the client; that didn't help. [01:14] hi people [01:14] tautologism: on the remote machine [01:14] damagu: removing the image will remove everything else associated with that kernelversion. after you finish with removing them run a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade ..just to be sure you havent' removed something you need. [01:15] coolkehon> whats this mean when trying to install python 2.6 [01:15] update-binfmts: warning: Couldn't load the binfmt_misc module. [01:15] guys i get a his is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'. [01:15] bastid_raZor: Cool thanks [01:15] corey__ recovery just gets me to a text terminal... [01:15] psycho_oreos: any ideas or do I deal with dirty hack? [01:15] -.- [01:15] i got this after trying to install Chrome [01:15] hey i just rebooted my comp and i got this error message when loading ubuntu and i cant access anything message: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be loaded | /:waiting for /dev/loop0 | /tmp: waiting for(null) | Press ESC to enter a recovery shell" [01:15] dazed_: enter recovery mode and edit /etc/fstab by hand, comment out offending line [01:16] loganhoup, I'd read up more about it, for the time being the dirty hack should suffice but check other modprobe.d configs for example [01:16] hello! [01:16] epinky: how do i edit it says its a read only file system in the recovery shell [01:16] epinky: what command to edit [01:16] [offtopic] on boot: PXE-E01: PCI Vendor and Device ID do not match (got any idea of what it means ? googled and found complains, but no explanations) [01:16] Frijolie, weird, I'm sure Dreaming.flac doesn't exist, tried it on my setup and it works perfectly [01:16] epinky: It seems to be something specifically with do-release-upgrade; I've never had problems with ssh before but recently I've tried a few times to run do-release-upgrade; every time I tried to do it over ssh it had this problem. Before when it happened the server locked up and I had to shut down with the power switch; after that ssh was okay without any adjustments. [01:16] Frijolie, maybe its a portion of the filename and not a complete one :P [01:16] Psycho_oreos: Okay thanks. [01:17] Frijolie, or maybe try ls -1| grep Dreaming.flac [01:17] psycho_oreos, hmm, interesting discovery. I have banshee open (not playing any songs) and it won't rename the files when that's open. closed banshee tried again and it works [01:17] assembly + c using [01:17] panfist, yeah, so? that's what it is suppose to do. [01:17] panfist, without the terminal you would find it very difficult to diagnose and correct your situation [01:17] coolkehon, did someone from #python suggest you ask that question in here? [01:17] corey__ well i have a terminal and i'm still finding it hard to correct the situation [01:17] Frijolie, yeah maybe it has a hook on the directory somewhere or it might be something to do with HAL [01:17] dazed: mount -o remount,rw /dev/your_device_here /mnt after that use an editor like "vi" [01:17] corey__: the problem happend on install [01:17] dazed_: mount -o remount,rw /dev/your_device_here /mnt after that use an editor like "vi" [01:18] epinky: ok ill try that [01:18] psycho_oreos, i did the lsof and it didn't show those being open or anything. Hmm, I would have never thought [01:18] corey__ i've inspected the xorg log and i only see one thing that matches '-i error'; that's AIGLX isn't working, falling back on software rendering [01:18] panfist, you always have the option to reinstall if you don't feel comfortable working inside a terminal. [01:18] epinky: sry to be a nub but by my device you mean? [01:18] epinky: i only had standard ubuntu installed for like a day [01:18] corey__ this is a vanilla jaunty installation. i need to use jaunty because there is no xen patched kernel for karmic yet [01:19] Frijolie, I suspect banshee is a low-level process or something [01:19] so reinstalling wouldn't do me much good [01:19] xjkx every pci-device has its unique ID [01:19] coolkehon, you could try using the alternate cd. that version doesn't use the python gui installer. [01:19] d3xter: yes. so ? [01:19] and this ID contains classID:VendorID:DeviceID [01:20] ola gente ... [01:20] panfist, you have a ati video card? [01:20] alguem pode me dar um help? [01:20] corey__ yep :( [01:20] dazed: it could be /dev/sdX or /dev/hdX (hdX for example for IDE and sda for SCSI and SATA), it depends really, you can find out with "fdisk -l" command [01:20] epinky: also when going into the recovery shell this time i got this message " mountall: Cancelled" "init: mountall main process (559) terminated wtih status 1 General Error Mounting fiilesystems" [01:20] good evening all long time [01:20] epinky: ok got that [01:20] d3xter: going directly to the point, how do i fix it :/ [01:21] xjkx what pci-card isnt working? [01:21] panfist, well I'm sorry for your bad luck with bad drivers, you could try the open source ones as they are much better. [01:21] epinky: when i ran your command to mount it returned [01:21] epinky: appended '.tmp' to ~/.ssh/known_hosts on both server and client; same error message. [01:21] d3xter: a nic [01:21] d3xter: from realtek [01:21] tenho um modem nokia 1508i cdma e uso ele para a conexao com a internet, porem no ubuntu 9.10 nao consigo conectar [01:21] corey__ according to xorg.log it's using the open source radeon driver [01:21] epinky: "cant find /dev/sd0/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" [01:22] epinky: would you know if there's any danger in restarting sshd while do-release-upgrade is running? [01:22] must be wrong device? [01:22] andreacarvalho77: rodou o pppoeconf ? [01:22] sim...mais ainda nada... [01:23] tautologism: yes it's very dangerous, it could make your system unusable [01:23] epinky: i fdisked found my device name is sdb1 but still says cant find it in fstab [01:23] xjkx, does dmesg say anything about your nic? [01:23] panfist, you could try dpkg reconfigure to reset the settings. [01:23] andreacarvalho77: como root ? fez tudo direitinho, senha e tal ? depois rodou pon dsl-provider ? [01:23] d3xter: gonna check [01:24] is a ssh key a actual file or a passphrase? [01:24] epinky: to mount it [01:24] what's the name of the package i need to reconfigure again? xserver-xorg or something like that, right? [01:24] estou rodando agora [01:24] alguem ja teve esse problema.. rodei o wvdial [01:24] dazed: then try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt", there's a space between /dev/sdb1 and /mnt [01:24] dazed_: then try "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 /mnt", there's a space between /dev/sdb1 and /mnt [01:24] e ele nao encontrou o modem no caso o nokia 1508i [01:24] panfist, yes [01:25] !english | andreacarvalho77 / xjkx [01:25] andreacarvalho77 / xjkx: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [01:25] how to exit vi? [01:25] Trek: i'm just answering :< [01:26] epinky: ahh i missed the space [01:26] dazed_: and after that ":q!" and [01:26] d3xter: i couldn't find, should I pastebin it ? [01:26] epinky: okay, glad I asked! okay I'm checking out ssh's verbose output now, maybe that will be helpful. [01:26] xjkx, yes [01:27] epinky: i ran that command to mount now it says "you must specify the filesystem type" [01:27] Halvtand: still there? [01:27] d3xter: http://pastebin.ca/1800867 [01:28] dazed_: sudo mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt [01:28] Do xhost command works ? I tryied xhost +localhost and still get errors as root user ( qconf: cannot connect to X server ) [01:28] d3xter: and here is my lspci http://pastebin.ca/1800847 (the other link was dmesg) [01:28] klappi I think so, it's replacing shit all over the place. I'm just waiting for my turn. [01:28] on jaunty is there a more comprehensive sample xorg.conf than what i can get from an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? [01:28] panfist: afaik you can do Xorg -config [01:28] a [01:28] anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to add windows back to mbr? [01:29] epinky: "/mnt not mounted already, or bad option" [01:29] panfist: just check man Xorg [01:29] dazed_: sudo mount -o rw -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt [01:29] !windows [01:29] For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents [01:29] panfist: -configure [01:29] !fixmbr [01:29] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [01:29] http://pastebin.com/m63edc21 [01:29] thats my problem [01:29] http://pastebin.com/m63edc21 [01:29] panfist: make a backup ^^ [01:29] ubuntu|Iz: ^^ [01:29] epinky: "special device does not exist" i feel dumb right now lol [01:30] dazed_: can you post "fdisk -l"? [01:30] thanks klappi [01:30] xjkx, the pci-id looks really strange. does this nic work in other computers? [01:31] epinky: im on my macbook pro talking and in recovery shell on my desktop i dunno how i could get it to u [01:31] Do I relly need too install sux in order to run X apps as root on a users X login ? [01:31] d3xter: yes, in an older motherboard [01:31] epinky: ill write out one moment [01:31] Halvtand: im back in a few minutes [01:31] klappi happy hunting [01:31] dazed_: maybe screenshot with your cam [01:32] epinky: ok 1 sec [01:32] xjkx, well then i'm clueless sorry [01:32] d3xter: i think it's all related to that boot message error PXE-E01: PCI Vendor and Device ID do not match [01:32] yes, but why does it have such a strange id? [01:33] xjkx, because there is no vendor with the id of 0001 [01:34] d3xter: vendor should be "realtek" right ? [01:34] dazed_: BTW you can use Ubuntu LIVECD to fix things :) , of course if you have one around [01:35] epinky: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4366104489_b9bb16119a_o.jpg the one that says sda1 is my D drive with all my music/vids no ubuntu [01:35] xjkx, yes, and the vendor-id of realtek should be 10EC [01:35] d3xter: is it possible I didn't plug it right ? I mean, maybe i should try forcing pushing it down some more, going more deeper [01:35] epinky: yea i wish i had one i should just make one but i only have dvds and i didnt want to waste one haha [01:35] still no luck getting a graphical environment, same results from the X log. is there some kind of failsafe config I can put in the [Device] section in place of using the radeon drivers? [01:35] xjkx, yeah, because it looks like a hardware issue or maybe the pci-slot is broken [01:35] 有人不？ [01:36] hi. has anyone used ubuntu's win32-image-writer to write SD card images? [01:36] I have Gateway M-Series and it doesn't recognize the wireless and I don't know what type of wireless card is in this computer? [01:36] !cn | johnben-yk [01:36] johnben-yk: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [01:36] d3xter: cant be broken, it was never used, i bought this mobo like days ago === root_ is now known as Guest82272 [01:36] hey! can someone give me software where it have webcam other than aMSN coz it crack ! thx [01:36] yes，我是中国人 [01:36] oh ok [01:37] epinky: if you cant think of anything ill just burn the live cd and edit it from there but how would i get into my hard copy of ubuntu from live disc [01:37] htns, There should be no difference between an sd card and any other drive. [01:37] d3xter: thanks man, will see what i can do [01:37] hello everybody, how can open network manager with my ubuntu please??? [01:37] xjkx, np [01:38] epinky: i have a ubuntu installation cd but i cant live boot with that can i? [01:38] Halvtand: re [01:38] where do i get super grub disk> [01:38] Jordan_U, thanks. i think that too. just wanted to make sure it actually works. you know how windows will automount the SD card when its inserted, i hope win32-image-writer will know how to make sure that doesn't change the image [01:38] dazed_: ok, there's one column missing that show filesystem type LINUX, btw what's on sda? [01:38] <`mOOse`> hmm [01:38] klappi just in time. It wanted me to reboot, so I did, but the colors are still bad [01:39] epinky: sda is just media (movies music documents pictures) [01:39] so i have a possibly dieing external HD that doesnt support SMART, what would be the best way to test it? [01:39] i cant open my network manager,anyone can help please? [01:39] How can I find what type of wireless device is in the laptop [01:39] htns, Doesn't windows also auto mount USB flash drives? [01:39] dazed_: yes you can boot with installation CD, AFAIK it's livecd and installer [01:39] Halvtand: press alt-ctrl-F1 [01:39] Halvtand: and login [01:39] Jordan_U, yes, i think it does. again, just wanted to know if someone has tried this before. [01:39] epinky: everytime i boot with install cd it just takes me to the bios installer [01:40] nerdy-kid: take it out of the enclosure and hook it straight to your pc's motherboard, run DFT & Spinrite [01:40] klappi done [01:40] Halvtand: sudo stop gdm [01:40] dazed_: it's really strange that you don't have any swap partition [01:40] epinky: im at the install cd main menu right now === mips is now known as mipz0r [01:41] epinky: ya it was all working fine and i rebooted and it was gone [01:41] ubuntu|Iz, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ [01:41] klappi gdm stop/waiting [01:41] epinky: I compared the output from ssh to the server in question with output from ssh to a server that is successfully connected to. The output is the same up through the parsing of the identity files. At that point the successful connection starts outputting server-related info, starting with "debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0,..."; the unsuccessful connection just outputs the ssh_exchange_identification error and terminates. [01:41] dazed_: select, run without touching filesystem or something like that [01:41] Halvtand: sudo -i (gives you root shell be carefull) === Wolf is now known as Guest86714 [01:42] klappi can you help please? [01:42] klappi still alive [01:42] Hi all. [01:42] epinky : my optioins 1. Install Ubuntu 2. Check Disk For Defects 3. Test Memory 4. Boot From First Hard Disk 5. Rescue a Broken System [01:42] Halvtand: Xorg -configure [01:42] hey all i am trying to figure out if how i should install ubuntu with my main os being win7? [01:42] what is the mysql savior command to setpermissions to change the password for your server? [01:43] ? [01:43] klappi ok, what now? [01:43] !wubi | ubyserver [01:43] ubyserver: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. [01:43] Halvtand: did it generate an xorg.conf.new? [01:44] what was the problem? (wasnt watching and all those lines r worse than brainfuck programming (just jking)) [01:44] tautologism: maybe /etc/hosts.allow is complaining, have you checked that on remote machine? [01:44] k will i be able to chose which os will load then? [01:44] ubyserver, You can also do a standard install and it will also present you with the option to start either Windows or Ubuntu at boot. [01:44] hi serenitysman :) [01:44] klappi Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new [01:44] hey sean lol [01:44] dazed_: there's one menu before, but option 5 will be just fine [01:44] well run ur new config... [01:44] thanks for the help [01:44] Halvtand: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test [01:45] if i do the the windows way, how will that work with using it? [01:45] serenitysman, yes, you'll be able to choose at startup which OS will be loaded :) [01:45] u should test it b4 though [01:45] kk ty [01:45] Is there an ubuntu server edition but 32 bits? [01:45] epinky: i didnt get a menu before that :( and option 5 brings me into the blue background step by step installer even though it says recovery :( [01:45] Failed to run gdebi-gtk '--non-interactive' '/home/scrap/Downloads/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb' as user root. [01:45] Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. [01:45] i sure ill be back with more questions lmao [01:45] Anyone know how to fix? [01:45] i cant connect to internet with ubuntu [01:46] why does my system not boot in 10 secs as karmic promised? [01:46] dazed: what ubuntu version are you running? [01:46] dazed_: what ubuntu version are you running? [01:46] dbdii407, why are you trying to install the flash_player manually? [01:46] wolter: m b you must reprofie [01:46] What? [01:46] wolter: re profile [01:46] d3xter, It was just an example. It does this with synaptic too [01:46] epinky: i dunno newest one i used the wubi to install latest edition downloaded yesterday once it was set up i upgraded kernels and everything [01:46] how do I uninstall the version of Chrome without the deb I used to install it initially? [01:46] run Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new if its like bsd [01:46] klappi, hm.. going to look that up in the wiki [01:47] just 2 test it [01:47] klappi nothing happened [01:47] Halvtand: good! [01:47] Anyone know a possible solution? [01:47] klappi yay? [01:47] just -config not configure [01:47] Halvtand: X -config xorg.conf.test [01:47] Hi, is there any way to find just information about only one of the flags of a command, instead of searching for it in the whole man page? [01:48] dazed_: are you sure ubuntu is on sdb1? [01:48] umang, you could use "/" in the man-page to search for the specific flag :) [01:48] how do u see which version of ubuntu i am running please? [01:48] !version | Guest82272 [01:48] Guest82272: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [01:48] epinky, Who are you talking to? [01:48] epinky: im 110% sure it was on there before i rebooted [01:48] pipe it to /tmp and grep -i the line [01:48] Ah. Gotcha [01:48] d3xter, ah, like in vim? (I'm just learning how to use vim now). [01:48] unformatted though [01:49] klappi screen went black [01:49] I have Ubuntu 5.10 server installed on a PC connected in LAN, how can i upgrade to 9.10 having the .iso in this computer? [01:49] Halvtand: alt-ctrl-F1 [01:49] Halvtand: ctrl-c [01:49] Help.. whats wrong with this line (trying to auto mount drives with fstab) UUID=7280B41A80B3E331 /mnt/1TB ext3 defaults, users 0 1 [01:49] epinky: I did, yeah. /etc/hosts.allow has the line in.ssh: localhost; however /etc/hosts.deny doesn't contain any uncommented lines. So hosts.allow is basically ignored in that circumstance, right? I get the same error when trying to ssh into the server from the server; I do have the that key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. Also before running do-release-upgrade everything was fine. Again this has happened before, specifically when I [01:49] umang, yes, just type in "/", then the text you're looking for [01:49] was upgrading from intrepid to jaunty. Now I'm going from jaunty to karmic. I'm able to ssh into other servers from both the client and the server, so it does seem to be something with the server's sshd [01:49] epinky: i think im just going to start from scratch and screw this wubi installer :( it has given me problems [01:49] Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. I get this when ever i launch an app that needs root permissions [01:49] d3xter, Thanks! :) [01:49] d3xter, you've saved lots of my time. :) [01:50] C0L0N3L, delete the whitespace between "," and "users" [01:50] dazed_: ok, well I'd suggest you to use LiveCD installer, Ubuntu native [01:50] klappi ok, back at root [01:50] umang, you're welcome :) [01:50] read the xorg.0.log [01:50] klappi, well, its not in the wiki, what is it? [01:50] Halvtand: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test [01:50] epinky: is the iso off ubuntu's site the live cd? [01:50] xorg logs r easier 2 read [01:51] wolter: basicly you can press e in grup and add profile to your kernel line and reboot again [01:51] hi [01:51] dazed_: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download [01:51] I screwed my sources.list file, and didn't back it up, where can I get it? [01:52] klappi ok, I got into GNU nano [01:52] Halvtand: with you xorg.conf.test in it? [01:52] Scombr0: system -> administration -> software sources should be sufficient [01:52] epinky: thats the one i have on a dvd i wonder why it doesnt give me that menu [01:52] how do I uninstall the version of Google Chrome without the deb I used to initially install it? [01:52] Halvtand: look for the Device section [01:52] d3xter didnt seem to help now saying "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sd**" [01:52] Drone4four: use system -> administration -> synaptic for example [01:53] jrib, i have server edition, and manage it via SSH because has no keyboard, screen, mouse, nothing, just power and LAN cable. [01:53] Scombr0: you really should be more careful... what did you do exactly? [01:53] klappi I don't see a device, but at the top of the screen it says File: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test [01:53] klappi, hm, it doesn't need to be in the grub conf, i just need to do it once? [01:53] Actually, nothing, it's just i want to upgrade from 5.10 server edition, to latest one. [01:53] But this repositories aint working.. [01:53] Error 404 [01:54] Not Found. [01:54] Is there some partition manager? [01:54] wolter: yes only once [01:54] dazed_: it's the first one in menu: http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu910installation-large_002.jpg [01:54] klappi, ok nice, brb [01:54] Scombr0: 5.10 is really ancient... [01:54] I know jrib, it's all I had in hand.. [01:54] Scombr0: why don't you just do a fresh install of 9.10 at this point? [01:54] klappi wait, further down there is a section "device" is that it? [01:54] Anyway i can do it from this computer over the LAN? [01:54] Halvtand: yay what does it say? [01:55] jrib: Anyway i can do it from this computer over the LAN? [01:55] Halvtand: Driver "sis"? [01:55] Scombr0: not that I know of [01:55] darn it [01:55] C0L0N3L, you've entered this line manually? [01:55] Alright then. [01:55] !install > Scombr0 [01:55] Scombr0, please see my private message [01:55] klappi jupp [01:55] !unr [01:55] Ubuntu Netbook Remix is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu [01:56] Alrighty jrib, i'll check it out, thank you. [01:56] ok cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:56] Scombr0: anyway, here is how to upgrade in case you don't find a suitable install method. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades I recommend you get to 6.06 then go to 8.04 [01:56] d3xter into fstab yeah copied the uuid though [01:56] Halvtand: exit nano first ^^ [01:56] Halvtand: should be ctrl-x [01:56] ty jrib, that's exactly what I needed [01:56] epinky: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47441216@N04/4366895128/sizes/o/ [01:56] and now the drive that contains that cd wont eject even in win7 [01:57] damn old computer.... could weird periodic wizzes imply my power supplys agonizing? [01:57] My "/" partition has 300GBs. How do I separate a small partition out of it so that I can install OSX on the new one? [01:57] C0L0N3L, because normally the UUId contains some "-", try the UUID which is printed by "sudo blkid /device/path" [01:57] Drone4four: wait, are you sure? That's for a really old ubuntu version [01:57] klappi ok, back at root [01:57] jrib, what do you mean? [01:57] ok cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:57] Drone4four: oh never mind, I forgot I said something earlier to you :) [01:57] d3xter ok will try that now [01:57] has anyone had any problems removing psa-api-rpc FRom there box. I've been doing crazy research and I even changed the mysql password and it still can't uninstall, hence stopping me from installing anything new [01:58] Looking at the US Dvorak layout, there 4 symbols on some keys. How can I use the ones that dont show when I hit a normal key or use shift? [01:58] Freeaqingme: which ones exactly? [01:58] oh where did klappi go... [01:58] My "/" partition has 300GBs. How do I separate a small partition out of it so that I can install OSX on the new one? [01:59] dazed_: I think you have the alternate CD [01:59] wolter: im here [01:59] does anyone know where the my.cnf file is located? [01:59] epinky: oh it does say that on the iso [01:59] hi all [01:59] wolter: it bootet slower but it should boot faster next time [01:59] any from Bulgaria? [01:59] klappi, oh you didn't appear in the autocomplete options... god knows why. hey, i wrote it but it still boots slow [01:59] I cannot find this file as it is referenced all over forums for my issue. [01:59] ubyserver: what issue? [01:59] epinky: but i cant open my drive to burn a new one its like locked up or something [01:59] Running 9.10, evince, when told to print as PDF, is generating huge PDF files. Printing as ps gives 300-400K, printing as PDF gives 5+M. [01:59] klappi, oh ok. Just in case, was it in the linux (...) line or in the initrd (...) line ? [01:59] jrib, already downloading latest server edition, will go for fresh install.. gonna avoid all troubles and do it quickly =P [01:59] elad`, you can use gparted for example to resize you're partition [02:00] wolter: linux line [02:00] epinky: nm got it open [02:00] klappi, and what does profile do to make my booting faster? [02:00] ok perfect [02:00] I can't use apt command line because psa-api-rpc issue with not connecting the the database using 'admin'@'localhost' [02:00] Naturally, the several meg PDF doesn't print either, and it seems to generate pdf instead of ps when told to print to printers. [02:00] Scombr0: yeah, that's best imo. Then just upgrade when 10.04 comes out and you are good until 2015 :) [02:00] d3xter tried "sudo blkid /dev/sda2" got "/dev/sda2: UUID="D096BBD596BBBA74" TYPE="ntfs"" [02:00] Heh, i guess so =P [02:00] wolter: updates ureadahead [02:00] anyone here have IRC running in EMPATHY ? [02:01] klappi, ok, ill boot now to see how speed goes [02:01] C0L0N3L, yes, so enter this UUID and change ext3 to ntfs [02:01] hello, toshiba x205-s7483 but low volume, no subwoofeer. any idea? [02:01] Hi all [02:01] i have problem with Kubuntu [02:01] i can't connect to wireless [02:01] Klappi I'm back at root === purpzey-is-a-guy is now known as purpzey [02:01] Halvtand: start gdm [02:01] dazed_: Alternate CD is oriented to experienced users who want to customize non-standard things in Ubuntu installation [02:01] i can connect with Lan Cabel but with wireless i can't [02:02] ubyserver: my.cnf should be in /etc/mysql/my.cnf but I really really really (did I say really yet?) think you shouldn't have to mess with it [02:02] please any tell me why [02:02] Can someone tell me how to make a script executable from CLI? [02:02] epinky: didnt realize thats the one i gog [02:02] got* [02:02] if I insert a new nic in my machine, what does it take to get it recognized by ubuntu? [02:02] I kind of expected it just to work [02:02] well i'm stuck and can't use apt-get .... [02:02] So I have to resort to whatever fixes this issue. [02:02] d3xter, I see no option to resize the partition in gparted. [02:02] !permissions > purpzey [02:02] purpzey, please see my private message [02:02] d3xter zomg it works *love* so etx3 is a type of format? [02:03] ubyserver: you need to read mysql documentation on how to reset passwords [02:03] C0L0N3L: its a file system [02:03] klappi no dice, colors still bad [02:03] C0L0N3L, ext3 is the name of a file-system, like ntfs is [02:03] Halvtand: grrr [02:03] any can help me? :) [02:03] I don't. I've already reset the passwords === Randolf is now known as wolter [02:03] jrib, stuff like: á and [02:03] dazed_: well, once again I recommend you to use Standard Live CD [02:03] klappi d3xter ok thanks [02:03] elad`, you have to boot from a livecd/liveusb because you cant resize a partition when it is mounted [02:03] klappi, no success [02:03] Freeaqingme: you probably need AltGr (you can set one up in layout preferences) [02:03] klappi, still boots at same speed, and my hardware could totally boot faster i think [02:04] wolter: bad for you google around it worked for me [02:04] d3xter, that was my guess. Very well, burning the gparted livecd iso right now. Is there anything special I should do if I want the new partition available for OSX? [02:04] the recent kernel update makes my computer crash randomly (i.e no direct action needed). how can I diagnose and figure out where the problem is? [02:04] Should I, like, FAT32 it or something? [02:04] elad`, dunno, never worked with OSX [02:05] hey all [02:05] Hello I have a question about the carwhisperer tool. How do I play my .raw file? In the readme it says to use some sox comands (which I already tride [02:05] Halvtand: grep Depth /var/log/Xorg.0.log [02:05] oops [02:05] I didnt mean that [02:05] ubyserver: make sure you check bugs.ubuntu.com for known issues [02:05] Hello I have a question about the carwhisperer tool. How do I play my .raw file? In the readme it says to use some sox comands (which I already tried) but its still not working? Please help me in this one. === hektor is now known as hektor86 [02:06] anyone gotten linux-vserver working with the latest ubuntu kernel? [02:06] sorry quick *dumb* question.....i just installed 9.04 on my netbook and can not seem to take the panels off the desktop??? is it possible? [02:07] anyone know to install skype on to this platform [02:07] klappi, will i notice if the system reprofiles or not? maybe im reading i should see 'preparing to profile boot sequence' [02:07] Hi. Is there anyway, using nvidia proprietary drivers, twinview and compiz to have my 2nd monitor rotated 90 degrees? [02:07] klappi (==) SIS(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp32 (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp [02:07] !skype | usmc1269 [02:07] usmc1269: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [02:07] I installed windows driver for my wireless and it says Hardware Present: Yes but no wireless? [02:08] sorry quick *dumb* question.....i just installed 9.04 on my netbook and can not seem to take the panels off the desktop??? is it possible? [02:08] in the Wireless network drivers section [02:08] what is mean by 'to record on Skype ?" [02:08] Jwill, you're using the default UNR desktop? [02:08] yeah [02:08] Halvtand: i dont understand why you still get few colors [02:08] Hello I have a question about the carwhisperer tool. How do I play my .raw file? In the readme it says to use some sox comands (which I already tried) but its still not working? Please help me in this one. [02:08] jrib, works like a charm, tnx [02:09] Jwill, iirc its not possible in the default Desktop [02:09] ok...what if i change from gnome to kde? [02:09] is anyone using it via a ps3? [02:10] Halvtand: grep -e EE -e WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log [02:10] Halvtand: anything of interesst? [02:10] Jwill, you can change the UNR Desktop to the default gnome-desktop and customize it to your needs :) [02:11] ok great! havent been around linux since gutsy lol so back to basics [02:11] how do i control affinity of running processes in linux ? [02:12] epinky: I guess I'll give up on this attempt, it seems to be something with do-release-upgrade. It was, at least until recently, not supported over ssh anyway, though I didn't see the usual notice about setting up a second ssh server on point 9004 this time. BTW I did try to ssh in to that port, to no avail. [02:12] Klappi (ww) warning, (ee) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [02:12] anyone??? [02:12] Halvtand: ok go back to root shell with alt-crtl-F1 [02:13] d3xter where is option to change to gnomdesktop? because all of these panels are really annoying [02:13] Halvtand: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:13] Halvtand: insert DefaultDepth 24 into the screen section [02:13] tautologism: really sorry, do-release-upgrade sometimes just doesn't work as expected :( [02:14] epinky: no worries, thanks a lot for your help. Is it better/okay to use apt-get dist-upgrade -d? [02:14] Jwill, Settings or System-Managment [02:14] there is an option to change the Desktop [02:14] I get runlevel = unknown on 9.1 I have edited events.d and it shows telinit 2 but still I get no run level on every reboot [02:14] ok thanks youve been alot of help d3xter [02:14] epinky: when upgrading from hardy to intrepid I just changed my sources.list and ran aptitude dist-upgrade; this seemed to work okay though I had to fix some dependency issues. [02:14] tautologism: : yes, I think it's better [02:14] Jwill, no problem :) [02:15] hey how would I use a .patch file? [02:15] epinky: which worked okay over ssh; presumably using the -d flag does basically the same thing? better, you say? that's good news.. Do you know what else do-release-upgrade is meant to do? Is it just supposed to be more user-friendly? [02:15] klappi anywhere in the screen section? [02:16] Halvtand: right above the first subsection [02:16] tautologism: it's supposed to be more mnemonic and short :) , just kidding [02:16] Halvtand: hope that works otherwise your box isnt supported by the sys driver :-(( [02:17] aupa [02:18] alguien me ayuda con un tunel ssh por favor? [02:18] !es | aitiba [02:18] aitiba: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [02:19] Hey all, can someone tell me if it's possible to create a virtual machine that runs off or accesses an OS installed on another partition? [02:19] sorry I was thinking that I'm on #ubuntu-es [02:19] epinky: question....that live disk that u pointed me to does that install 64-bit versions too? i think thats why i downloaded the alternate the first time cus i thought i needed it to install 64-bit [02:19] klappi can't get back to desktop [02:20] dazed_: there's one 32 bit version and another 64 bit version, select which you want to install [02:20] how do i edit which services my computer runs? [02:20] Halvtand: ? your in your root shell? [02:20] damagu, you mean a normal OS which has been installed into the parition [02:20] I'm sure you've probably heard this problem many times. I have installed VLC and am trying to view different media files (Win32 codecs needed) and have accessed through apt-get the RestrictedReleases for the codecs; however, I am still unable to pull up any video output from my videos. Only sound. [02:20] I used to be able to do it in previous versions [02:21] epinky: yeah im an idiot lol i dont know why i dont read things clearly the first time EVER [02:21] epinky: thank you for being patient [02:21] Klappi yup, I inserted defaultdepth, ctrl+x, saved and I'm in root [02:21] wolter: easy way would be to use rcconf, not installed by default [02:21] Halvtand: stop gdm and start gdm [02:21] dazed_: no problem :) [02:21] d3xter: well... I have Mac OS and Ubuntu installed on my Macbook pro and I'd like to get access to the Mac OS partition via virtualization if possible. That way I don't have to reboot. [02:22] does anybody know if bootchart will make my boot slower? [02:22] d3xter: it's just so that I can run Logic Pro (the audio software) which is already installed in the Mac OS partition. [02:23] d3xter: I don't want to have to create a virtual machine and install Logic Pro again [02:23] evening all [02:23] anyone gotten triplehead to work without xinerama? [02:23] Morning, hexmare [02:24] is there any way of making screensaver come on after 3 hours? The slider only goes to 2 [02:24] mornin Daughain [02:24] damagu, alright [02:24] klappi still bad. Don't really know whats wrong. The background is just pink/purple and yellox. The bars at the top and bottom are... orange with small spots of yellow flickering.. [02:24] I added a printer in the printing screen and now printing screen won't open at all. trying to print from command line results in segfault. How can I manually delete a printer? [02:25] Halvtand: your are in low color mode [02:25] epinky, does that thing work well in karmic? [02:25] epinky, I see some services that actually run which appear disabled [02:26] d3xter: any idea on whether this is possible? [02:26] why do I get runlevel unknown? [02:26] is there a dedicated chanel for packaging? [02:26] wolter: yes rcconf works well afaik [02:26] seanbrystone: http://www.cs278.org/blog/tag/karmic/ [02:26] klappi oh, one would think that it should be easy to change to high color... [02:27] thanks epinky ill take a look :D [02:27] I can't write to my microSD card, it says it's read only? When I set it to read and write nothing happens. [02:27] damagu, you could try this one http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/ [02:28] does anyone know why upstart seems to not be working? [02:28] klappi thanks anyway. Guess I'll have to look around for something else. [02:28] Halvtand: you need to ask somebody else ive done all i could m b your chipset need some more extra tweaking or isnt supported properly [02:28] How do you add a pgp key block? [02:28] Via command line [02:28] can anyone tell me how i can daemonize a command that i run inside a script? i.e. "metacity --replace" [02:29] i don't want to background it because i don't want metacity to die when i close the terminal i run the script from [02:29] damagu, or this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769883 [02:29] d3xter: is that link suggesting that what I want to do is possible. I mean, is "virtualiz[ing] an existing partition without creating a virtual hard disk." what I'm wanting to do? I get confused by the terminology [02:30] if I'm using key authentication for login, how do I avoid users being asked for passwords for admin tasks? [02:30] I have a few questions about 3G radios under linux and what can be done with them....Is there a way to access the phone number assigned to the card by the carrier and use it to place and receive phone calls? [02:31] d3xter: i removed then plugged it again and it worked, was in dmesg and in lspci. then i rebooted and no-more, hah. that error message doesn't show up anymore on boot, i feel like, now, it's not loaded at all, can you check my lspci ? http://pastebin.ca/1800938 [02:31] hallo [02:31] im Tom [02:31] Daughain: your service provider probably specifically disallows that kind of usage, and may not even allow calls to be routed to the device [02:32] mgmuscari: Probbaly, but, I still want to try. =) You would be surprised what backdoors there are if you look. [02:32] xjkx, it doesnt even occure :-O [02:32] d3xter: thanks... it looks like what I want to do is possible... at least for Windows. Now that I know it's possible I'll try and find a guide for doing it for Mac OS. Thanks again [02:32] damagu, yes thats exactly what you want :) [02:32] For some reason my microSD card says it's read-only? [02:32] Help. [02:32] d3xter: hah, thanks again [02:33] two quick questions... recently installed Ubuntu 9.10 (fresh install)... and i installed gqview cause I like that jpg viewer... And I have some windows shares on my network... and nautilus can see those shares perfectly.. but gqview and geeqie both can not see those files... and it confuses me... [02:33] Daughain: given what i know from my previous employer, a major US telecom and cell phone provider, i'd say there's no chance you could get it working with them, anyway :) [02:33] xjkx, you should try to plug it in and out again ;) [02:33] Hello, is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu for Intel Mobile CPU? [02:33] will do [02:33] second question.. is thunderbird... for some reason, I can not get the program to start right now... I don't see it under the ps... and it is frustrating me. [02:34] any takers on getting X to run triplehead single server? [02:34] mgmuscari: Well, wth the proper mopds on my BB, I have full net access and dont pay for a data plan at all. So, I still want to experiment. [02:34] Nikyo: what architecture is the cpu? [02:34] LonelyDragon757, i guess gqview doesnt support smb shares [02:34] So I'm trying to install vlc using package manager, and I get this: [02:34] * dsearle has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:34] lol I posted my question on yahoo answers - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100217101513AA24gwd [02:34] * tobbe has quit (Client Quit) [02:34] blakkheim, yes [02:34] cbx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:34] umm :| [02:34] i have had it work in the past... with WattOS and PuppyLinux... [02:34] cbx: what? [02:34] blakkheim, I selected some random part and pasted it by mistake :| [02:35] oh k [02:35] So I'm trying to install vlc using package manager, and I get this: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources [02:35] mgmuscari 64bit Intel Core Duo T3400 [02:35] Daughain: i believe that - but i don't think that a data-only device is provisioned the same way as a voice device with data capability is [02:35] d3xter ... I have had it work with puppy linux and watt os... and I think xubuntu in the past... which is how I learned of the stilly software [02:35] LonelyDragon757, have you tried to thunderbird from the terminal? any error messages? [02:35] I can't write to my microSD card, help! [02:35] how do I increase the volume more than what the max .. it seems like since i played w/ alsamixer it is now not high enough.. i see master column is all the way to red .. so is pcm [02:35] mgmuscari: I'm going to be using a sim designated for both voice and data to begin with. [02:35] Nikyo: yes, that's just regular amd64 architecture [02:35] Will someone actually help me? [02:36] >:[ [02:36] Daughain: oh well in that case, you can probably get that working - i was assuming your sim was only for a data device [02:36] axisys, increase the PCM Volume in alsamixer [02:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpb96k3n_a0 is not playing loud enough in my laptop ... (splunk video) [02:36] d3xter (thunderbird-bin:4416): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times (but surprisenly, it actually did run)... semi -ARGH. [02:36] Daughain: i was thinking the restriction would be the provisioning on the carrier end [02:36] mgmuscari: I'm going to try both, ultimately, but....The first attempt is not data only. [02:36] LonelyDragon757, thats all? [02:36] d3xter: it is all the way to the top [02:36] Happehwalrus: have you check with "mount" command? [02:36] axisys, strange [02:36] Sorry.. that's confuses me, because it is a Intel? I think it may not have the same 64bit extensions that the AMD and other Intel 64bit CPUs have.. [02:37] Daughain: look into the openmoko project - there might be some software for the 3g radio that you can look at that's somewhat relevant [02:37] mgmuscari: Thanks for the start. =) [02:37] I read that some other people could not install the 64btit version of ubuntu on there laptops either.. [02:37] Nikyo: core duo and amd 64 bit processors use the same instruction sets [02:37] d3xter: this is how it looks now http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_5.png [02:37] Hmmm.. [02:38] Thanks mgmuscari [02:38] axisys, that looks good [02:38] epinky: http://pastebin.com/d38defc95 [02:38] Nikyo: i run the same linux kernel on my opteron 185 as i do on my core 2 duo [02:38] i wonder if the youtube is recorded w/ low volume http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpb96k3n_a0 [02:38] dunno why it isn't loud enough :-S [02:38] d3xter: ^ [02:39] Daughain: no problem :) [02:39] axisys, hehe [02:39] so - anybody know how to daemonize a process from bash? or more specifically, how to daemonize metacity when i run it. backgrounding the process is not an option. [02:40] mgmuscari, create a init.d-script? [02:40] mgmuscari: Thanks for the help.. I'll reinstall the 64bit version when I get a change to do so..on my laptop, I knopw everything works corretly in the live CD version of ubuntu.. even the wireless which is awesome.. so I'm going to migrate over to Ubuntu.. [02:40] Nikyo: best of luck [02:40] wat [02:40] Happehwalrus: mmm, sry no idea man :( [02:41] d3xter: i don't want to do this on startup [02:41] mgmuscari: Thanks, good night. [02:41] i'm just trying to switch window managers when i run a game using wine, then switch back when wine exits [02:41] mgmuscari, you can disable it through rcconf ;) === live is now known as oinkoinkoink [02:42] no equaliser in amarok 2.20 how to get? [02:42] other possible way would be to create a upstart-script [02:42] i'd prefer to avoid putting strange scripts in my init.d [02:42] d3xter: do you know anything about the "daemon" package? [02:42] mgmuscari, no sorry [02:42] hmm [02:43] i tried using that, but metacity doesn't replace compiz when i run the command [02:45] Why do i see so many references to gpg --keyserver when my gpg command has no --keyserver option === Nightwolf42 is now known as Nightwolf [02:47] [02:48] I'm trying to install vlc using package manager, and I get this: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources [02:48] cbx yes install them [02:48] Reload your sources. [02:49] It doesn't let me install em [02:49] Just says bye bye :D [02:49] cbx: Reload your sources, then try the install. [02:49] do you have all sources installed ? [02:50] I think its the india server, gonna switch that and check [02:50] also, why the F is stuff hanging ? I thought linux used to be shit proof [ I just switched to ubuntu from windows after many many years] [02:50] I click on a button and nothing happens [02:50] Nothing is shitproof, but with minor effort(compared to windows) it is *very* stable. [02:50] cbx did you upgrade everything after booting up? [02:51] Why could not join the go-nuts channel?? [02:51] anyone interested in Programmable Logic Controllers? [02:51] Wormox: What are they? [02:51] Daughain, Ic's [02:51] like old school microcontrollres [02:51] Ah....Oh, well. [02:51] sudo apt-get upgrade && update [02:51] Because I have a couple cool ones and i was wondering if anyone wanted to talk about them or was interested in buyin em [02:52] Wormox, I don't see you on ##electronics and #sparkfun . That is the place to discuss this [02:52] ahhh [02:52] and you'll get your buyers there Wormox [02:52] i'm new to freenode [02:52] thanks amigo === Wolf is now known as Guest30563 [02:52] anyone know how to change the default menu icon in easy peasy? [02:52] I think embedded system is more interesting ,like arm cpu [02:52] #linuxMCE might be an idea as well.... [02:53] unistd: i have some embeddedarm boards as well :D [02:53] yeah [02:53] I have one, but I cannot find a job on it. [02:54] I am freshman in this field...... [02:54] What's the one terminal app to control your volumn? [02:54] volume* [02:54] dbdii407: alsamixer [02:56] [02:56] i was wondering if someone would kindly help get me wifi going on my laptop. iwconfig sees wlan0 and that is specificied specifically in in my wicd it also didn't work under network-manager. it simply said "no networks detected" it might need an update, but failing that, anything else i can do short of reinstall ? [02:57] GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem. *Ugh* [02:57] balas: You have the right drivers for your wifi? [02:57] How do I see what my keyring password is currently set to? Is there some way to get an input password prompt to pop up so that I can see if it accepts my password? [02:58] Hi, my reprofile is not working. [02:58] I don't see any * Profiling system * notice in the console [02:58] I have a problem with VLC , firefox and the Divx [02:59] When i see a video, i can see the video but i dont have any option for the volume or to press pause [02:59] can anyone point me in the direction of jailbreaking my ipod touch? i can't seem to get redsn0w to run [02:59] hi guys i keep getting a Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [02:59] whenever i do anything synaptic/add/remove related [02:59] or anything [02:59] billybigrigger: www.modmyi.com [02:59] complains about libwxgtk2.8-??? something and i have the right package installed, is there another way? [02:59] thanks Daughain [02:59] Daughain, its worked on a fresh install before the only thing i did do was install usb-modeswitch for a mobile wireless but i removed that, and problem perisists. i will try wired now and do a full update [03:00] Why must this thing need to sudo a xfce4-mixer? O_o [03:00] balas: That sounds like you need to do a manual edit somewhere.....I havent gotten into mobile wireless yet, so I couldnt tell you where to look. [03:01] Having a problem with the windows ubuntu installer. I ran it, but ubuntu does not show up in the list of operating systems when the computer boots, so vista auto-loads. [03:01] Daughain, should you be interested, cricket wireless works, no contracts, and has a 5gb limit. dads using mine now [03:02] set irc_conf_mode 1 [03:02] balas: I'm more interested in getting my netbooks to place and receive normal voice calls first. =) Then I can get rid of the cell phones. =) [03:02] Daughain, there's 1 linux guide on that site [03:03] What is the easiest way to get this 'puter to ask me for my keyring password? [03:03] keyring? [03:03] sry, got d/ced [03:03] ati HD 4850 or nvidia gtx 250 for linux and crysis? [03:04] billybigrigger: Gimme a few min, and I'll get back to you....Helping someone in #KUbuntu right now. [03:04] Absolute0: I'll be honest with, ATI drivers can be sketchy sometimes [03:04] Daughain, np [03:04] I am forced to citrix to connect to a linux server from my linux desktop. as such, I need to use putty as a citrix client application. Is there any way to transfer files via putty from my desktop to the end-point server I'm connecting to? [03:04] I have check upstart all my runlevels and I cannot figureout why my runlevel reports unknown?? [03:04] Absolute0: especially fglrx driver [03:04] hi i keep gettinga Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [03:04] and nothing is working [03:04] i tried every suggestion, still get the bug [03:05] PingFloyd: i am aware thats why i asked [03:05] Can someone help? I ran the windows ubuntu installer and selected the partition I dedicated for ubuntu. It ran just fine, but when rebooting there is no option to boot ubuntu. Visa loads automatically. It has worked in the past, and I've done nothing different. :( [03:05] PingFloyd: that ati is low profile [03:05] so its more attractive [03:06] Absolute0: I have an ati mobility radeon hd 4570, and my screen will get stuck blank when I log out of DE when using fglrx driver [03:06] Absolute0: the open source drivers also won't support 3D accelleration in cards this new [03:06] Absolute0: not yet anyway [03:07] What is the easiest way to get my computer to ask me for my keyring password, so that I can confirm if it is set right? [03:07] billybigrigger: OK....You;r trying o JB an iphone in ubuntu? [03:07] Absolute0: that's only an issue in Linux though [03:07] If you are dedicating a partition to ubuntu why use a windows type boot? just install it to the partition, and let linux install grub. [03:07] Absolute0: no problems with this card in windows vista nor windows 7 [03:08] when I run htop, i always see swap is at 0% why is that? [03:08] Daughain, yup [03:08] jumpnmustang, becuase it worked before, and for whatever reason I can't boot form the disc. I burned the cd image using my prefered .iso image burner, but it doesn't recognize the disc afterwards. [03:08] iAmerikan, because your not using any [03:09] hi all [03:09] =c [03:09] billybigrigger: when does it get used? [03:09] i need help [03:09] hiya. got a bit of a serious issue. i installed xmonad and logged out/in to switch to it. it wouldn't load. so i went back to gnome, and now gnome has no window borders, terminal won't take focus, etc [03:09] iAmerikan, when you run out of memory [03:10] so I wouldn't really need swap with my 7.9 gb? [03:10] sirconis, it could be your bios isn't set to boot from cd, or your disk is defective [03:10] militant: I would change a session to xterm then uninstall xmonad [03:10] my wepkey isnt working in ubuntu?romemode notdetecting networks? <8.04 [03:10] i want to install Fifa pro evolution game on my ubuntu anyone can help [03:10] I've edited the windows file that contains the list of OS to boot before, but I forget what it is named, or where it is located. @semitones, my bios are set correctly. [03:11] plss help me [03:11] iAmerikan: i'd keep some swap may it be REALLy small [03:11] cananyone helpme? wifiissues..pmmaybe? [03:11] billybigrigger: what model ipod? You may need to load a diff JB app via wine, depending on booloader. [03:11] Tetikus_22_B: !wine | Tetikus_22_B [03:11] sirconis: are you having grub be your bootloader or having window's? [03:11] mrpink57: that didn't have any results [03:11] yup [03:11] Bootloader. [03:11] sirconis, so are you trying to add ubuntu to the windows bootloader, or are you trying to install grub? [03:11] oiee [03:11] i already install [03:12] mrpink57: ubuntu automatically made me a 2gb swap partition when I started. While we're kinda on the subject should I partition different folders? [03:12] but fifa cannot be run [03:12] I have always had problems with windows quickie installs. They will work once twice maybe three times and never work again. [03:12] MITT ROMNEY at Yeshiva University in 2007: "In the current conflict, defeat is not nearly as dangerously close as it was during the darkest moments of the Second World War and the Cold War. There's no comparison between the economic and diplomatic, and military resources of the civilized world and those of the terrorist networks that threaten us today. "In those previous global wars, there were many ways to lose, and victory [03:12] Linux is for dumb mentally retarded bitches who ate too many lead chips as babies. Ubuntu is gay care bear cotton candy pansy ass insecure bloated faggotry compared to the spartan NetBSD and OpenBSD [03:12] sirconis, grub means GRand Unified Bootloader, by the way [03:12] oi [03:12] pingfloyd, windows. afaik I can't choose grub from the windows installer, although once ubuntu is installed and I select it from the windows bootloader it goes to grub and I have to select it again, but that is when it is workign correctly as it has n the past. [03:12] and that is if we as a civilized world decide not to lift a finger to defend ourselves, or our values, and our way of life. "I will not be silent, you will not be silent. "Today, we can lead the world. We can and we must lead the world to do what it has sought for so many centuries-to accept different people and different cultures, to respect the inalienable rights of every child of God, and to welcome a time of peace and pro [03:12] Vote Mitt Romney for President [03:12] 2012 [03:12] iAmerikan: You need to be using most of your ram before the swap part gets used.....Set up a sysmon and watch how ram and swap get used. [03:12] for a safer and more prosperous America. [03:12] sirconis: if you're using Window's bootloader as the main bootloader, you can use easyBCD [03:12] iAmerikan: I generally do manual partitions and keep a /boot / swap /home for more advanced I add a /var [03:12] Daughain, lemme check the model [03:13] !offtopic Romney2012 [03:13] MITT ROMNEY at Yeshiva University in 2007: "In the current conflict, defeat is not nearly as dangerously close as it was during the darkest moments of the Second World War and the Cold War. There's no comparison between the economic and diplomatic, and military resources of the civilized world and those of the terrorist networks that threaten us today. "In those previous global wars, there were many ways to lose, and victory [03:13] *googling* [03:13] !offtopic | Romney2012 [03:13] Romney2012: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [03:13] It would be pointless to select grub in the windows bootloader since grub is a bootloader too. [03:13] and that is if we as a civilized world decide not to lift a finger to defend ourselves, or our values, and our way of life. "I will not be silent, you will not be silent. "Today, we can lead the world. We can and we must lead the world to do what it has sought for so many centuries-to accept different people and different cultures, to respect the inalienable rights of every child of God, and to welcome a time of peace and pro [03:13] wth?? [03:13] Vote Mitt Romney for President [03:13] Daughain, model a1288 [03:13] 2012 [03:13] billybigrigger: I dont have em all memorixed. :P Check it on that website I gavce you to find out which app works to JB that bl. [03:13] for a safer and more prosperous America! [03:13] Daughin: I'm watching htop but my ram won't fill... mrpink57: would you suggest doing this? [03:13] idon'tthinksodude [03:13] tudo bem [03:14] gostaria de saber deque se tra [03:14] dodecahedron: life must be rough when you're part of the forgotten [03:14] iAmerikan: Load the system more?? =) [03:14] Romney2012 God most likely does not exist and third world genetic material (third world children) are for the most part trash who should die [03:14] romeny...spambots will not getyouintooffice.. [03:14] iAmerikan: I'm not sure what you are asking there, but with 8gb of ram you can probably do a swap of 128mb [03:14] why would gnome tell me i'm not running a wm when i hit the show desktop button... why would my window borders etc vanish..? [03:14] I cannot reprofile my system, help please [03:14] There was a document out there once I saw that showed how to manually install grub. I think the one I saw was a knoppix hack though. Might still be out there and might work for you. [03:14] 8G?? No wonder you dont use swap. :P [03:15] PingFloyd uh, OpenBSD does not want to be a popular OS we just want to be the best at what we do. We also do not care about newbies like Ubuntu we expect OpenBSD users to be advanced users [03:15] lol swap s a hd partition [03:15] pingfloyd so much for your retarded "forgotten argument" [03:15] iAmerikan: you could also do other things like creat a tmpfs and put your firefox cache in there to get a faster browser [03:15] iAmerikan: Leave uit up for a couple of weeks and check htop then. Takes over 24 hours for my 2G to fill enough to use swap. [03:15] Romney at Yeshiva University: "What Jimmy Carter fails to understand is what so many fail to understand. Whether it's Hamas or Hezbollah; Al Qaeda or Shia and Sunni extremists, there is an overarching goal among the violent Jihadists - and it transcends borders and boundaries. That goal is to replace all modern Islamic states with a religious caliphate, to destroy Israel, to cause the collapse of the West and the United States, [03:15] My boot time is of 70s, not 10s. I need help reprofiling [03:15] Vote Mitt Romney for President 2012 [03:15] But cannot reprofile [03:16] mrpink57: I meant to say, would you suggest keeping /home and /var partitions? [03:16] dodecahedron: sounds like you have a luddite sausage fest, all 3 members of your community [03:16] Daughain: I'll take a look in a few days then [03:16] PingFloyd OpenBSD developers know exactly who our target audience is ourselves the elite and not the benighted masses [03:16] Romney2012: please stop [03:16] nanag [03:16] PingFloyd Ubuntu panders to the benighted masses the newbies [03:16] iAmerikan: it's all user pref really, I keep it if I am going to be monitoring a lot of profiles. its esepcially nice if you have a lot of users you can dump firefox profiles in /var and reuse them. [03:17] iAmerikan: I'm at 2D, 8H uptime and still not using swap yet. [03:17] Mitt Romney has real private sector experience with keeping costs down and efficiency up! [03:17] Vote MItt Romney for PResident to restore fiscal responsibility to America! [03:17] PingFloyd yeah being on the cutting edge of security technology sure is luddite [03:17] dodecahedron: thou hast protest too much -- I think you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else that you're elite. [03:18] PingFloyd I'm just having fun trolling. You are putting too much meaning into my presence here [03:18] dodecahedron: I'll let you live in your little 1990s dream world though [03:18] mrpink57: I'm the only user on my system. But I've heard something about at least making a partition for /home [03:18] iAmerikan: but if you want a answer /boot / swap /home is fine, keep /home seperate is nice if you have a failure you can reinstall and keep /home [03:18] Is there a way to have nano remove trailing spaces (at the end of lines, not the line at the end of the document)? [03:18] iAmerikan: i would recommend always making a seperate home [03:18] Tired of Niggers and their monkeyshines? [03:18] say will this Grub2 menu entry work? ----> http://pastebin.com/m4e17f6a9 [03:19] mrpink57: how big would you say I should make it? [03:19] join #ubuntu-br [03:19] PingFloyd yeah the 1990s when linux was still exclusively for geeks and still had a relatively knowledgeable userbase unlike now where Linux is for bitches and dumbe ones at that and Ubuntu is the primary cotton candy pansy ass Bitch distro === Romney2012 is now known as BlackSpade [03:19] s/dumbe/dumb/ [03:20] * Daughain likes his cotton candy. :P [03:20] I have GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=15 and I can't see the grub menu, why? [03:20] I'll admit to being one of those pansy ass users.:-) [03:20] has anybody using ubuntu karmic reprofiled their system? [03:21] PingFloyd there are two kinds of camps : the userfriendly camp e.g. Ubuntu and Windows where security is a joke and the security camp i.e. OpenBSD which generally shuns usability [03:21] dodecahedron: your over compensation is too obvious [03:21] anyone? === _Raspberry is now known as Pazooza [03:21] Guys, please take your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and save this channel for support questions [03:22] wth?? [03:22] ijust want some wifi help..ubuntu8.04 [03:22] romedoesntwork..ineedanewkeygen i think [03:22] Hey guys. Which file do I modify to change my boot loader? I have a lot of repeats in it. Like two that say Ubuntu and two that say windows 7? [03:22] dodecahedron: well said :) [03:22] what is a good GUI search substitution for File Browser? FB doesn't even show the location in searches, much less allow you to open the folder. [03:22] I use Arch personally and sometimes Debian. But I think Ubuntu has done a great job and getting the masses interested in Linux. I thought it was a big thing when I started seeing laptops (Dell) giving the option of a Linux install in the flavor of Ubuntu. [03:22] dodecahedron: I guess since there is no women around for you to blame your inadequacies on, you have to resort to blaming linux these days LOL [03:23] when hardware says windows mac and ubuntu on the side of the box... you know linux has arrived [03:23] Soah: /boot/grub/menu.lst [03:23] Xgates, coulld you pastebin the file for us? [03:23] how can I debug why I am getting runlevel unknown? [03:23] semitones it is so funny that you say that this channel is for support. The OpenBSD channel is not really for support especially not for newbies. Back in the day common Linux responses to newbies was RTFM and in OpenBSD the manual pages are of the highest quality unlike Linux [03:23] RTFM ! [03:23] no driver graphic card [03:23] newbie bitches [03:24] semitones: this is grub2 and I'm on another box at the moment, I just need to add a entry to boot a recovery partition for a Winbox is all, so how can I get the Grub menu to be visible? [03:24] sigh... i have a 15 year old program that i'm trying to run with wine, and it's failing out due to "not enough free space." my disk is too large, and there's obviously an integer overflow occurring here that's causing the application to think there's very little space available. anybody have suggestions on fixing this? [03:24] vlc player suck thx [03:24] Xgates, I'm not that familiar with grub t2, but I think I can find you a link.. [03:24] !grub2 | Xgates [03:24] Xgates: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [03:24] dodecahedron: don't you have a small innocent animal to torment like a normal sociopath? [03:25] Xgates, if you have any questions I'll be happy to help [03:25] there is a wine support channel, not sure if anyone there... #winehq [03:26] who can help me? [03:26] jage: thanks [03:26] Ahhhh my bad I need to comment out ---> #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 [03:26] :) [03:26] * Xgates bangs head [03:26] !ask | tien [03:26] tien: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:26] Thx mrpink57, Much appreciated. [03:26] actually now that i think about it, i'll probably have to use dosbox to run this program [03:26] my grapphic card no driver [03:26] Xgates, did you try the stuff in that link? [03:27] PingFloyd don't you have more time to waste on parasitic illiterate newbies who refuse to seriously research their problems first before asking like the retarded fool you are ? [03:27] gefoce 9600 gt [03:27] Dosbox is a wonderful invention. [03:27] mgmuscari: One of these days I;d like to pick your brain on carrier end filters for data networks. [03:27] hello! im running ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop and i was wondering what program i shouhld use for .exe files? [03:27] Daughain, not seeing where i can view my model [03:27] dodecahedron, please stop. [03:27] jumpnmustang: mustangs ftw! [03:27] semitones: I need to comment out ---> #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 [03:27] How do I see what my keyring password is currently set to? Is there some way to get an input password prompt to pop up so that I can see if it accepts my password? [03:27] billybigrigger: Pull up the bootloader version, and use that, not model number. [03:27] Daughain: i don't have a whole lot of specialized knowledge about the phone network - i worked in the it services division [03:28] Daughain: know this: deep packet inspection is real, and it's used in industry [03:28] What is the easiest way to get my computer to ask me for my keyring password, so that I can confirm if it is set right? [03:28] tweiseman: have you tried wine? [03:28] Xgates, to see the menu, just remove the "#" and specify how many seconds you want to see the menu [03:28] Daughain, version 3.1.2 is that OS version? [03:28] mgmuscari: Ah......Hmmmm.....Wonder why I havent been tagged for my net access yet. Been doing it for years. [03:28] back. did anyone see my question about EasyBCD before I lost connection? [03:28] model pc087c [03:28] pingfloyd this a record. The longest I have trolled like this in a linux distro channel without being banned (at least a decently populated one like this) [03:28] semitones: I got it already :) BUT I can't seem to get this menu entry to show up ---> http://pastebin.com/m721940c0 [03:29] tien: you should get a pop up in Ubuntu Karmic asking you if you want to install the restricted drivers for your Nvidia card [03:29] :P [03:29] jumpnmustang: i did try wine but there seemed to be some kind of error/ [03:29] dodecahedron: great to know you set the bar high on accomplishments in life [03:29] billybigrigger: It will say OS or bootloader. I've done a few for freinds, but dont have this stuff memorized. [03:29] Can you give the error? [03:29] Daughain: they probably only look at people who are using almost 5gb per month [03:30] pingfloyd -- luxury -- some of us can afford such trivial games since we do not have to slave for money to live [03:30] Daughain, i see nothing that gives me a bootloader version [03:30] Xgates, ok, could you post the whole file? [03:30] im not on the ubuntu system right now all i know is that other people have had it too. do you know of anyother programs? [03:30] mgmuscari: Could be....I dopnt get close to that... [03:30] dodecahedron: I'm sure most of the people in here have you on /ignore by now, but I don't because you're quite entertaining [03:30] Daughain, have you done one in ubuntu yet? ipod touch that is [03:30] if so what did you use? [03:31] Well you could try codeweaver or you could try virtualbox. [03:31] billybigrigger: Search the forums. I lost all my bookmarks during a HD fail, so, cant point ya any better than that. [03:31] I used easyBCD to add a linux entry, but when I select it in the windows bootloader it takes me to a grub command prompt. I tried typing boot, but it says the kernel has to be loaded first. In any case, I want to go straight into ubunto not a command prompt. Any ideas? [03:31] billybigrigger: I was using blackra1n on an XP box, I admit. Havent had one come in to try in ubuntu yet. [03:31] pingfloyd attacking linux and ubuntu is like attacking a nest of butterflies attacking Linux and BSD would warrant death threats [03:31] oops [03:31] hi what's correct way to install php pdo_mysql with ubuntu? [03:32] billybigrigger: Ran the bootloader upgrade then blackra1n. [03:32] pcl install pdo_mysql seems to be wrong [03:32] pingfloyd attacking linux and ubuntu is like attacking a nest of butterflies attacking Unix and BSD would warrant death threats, rather [03:32] perf3ect! thank you so much [03:32] because php dies with sigenv [03:32] pingfloyd got it right the second time [03:32] Xgates: http://pastebin.com/m3339e089 here is my menu.lst I am using grub not grub2 but I also have it disabled maybe it will help. [03:32] dodecahedron: I guess only the macho he-men run BSD :P === dexter is now known as Guest4974 [03:32] I usually just bypass all wine byproducts and install virtualbox. That takes care of 90% of my needs. [03:32] Daughain, ya, you can't run wine to jailbreak in ubuntu, as wine doesn't support usb [03:32] <[Adam|Miner]> Is there any support for broadcomm wireless adapters yet? [03:32] pingfloyd The BSDs are still high church druid Unix and Ubuntu and Linux are still peter pan skittles and beer pansy ass care bear unmanly faggotry [03:33] * iflema :) [03:33] thank you im new to linux haha this means a lot [03:33] dodecahedron: yeah BSD users do kind of remind me of catholic priests [03:33] does Kubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Daily Build updated to kde 4.4 ? [03:33] billybigrigger: OK, then ya need a XP VM of some kind. google virtualbox. [03:33] Can anyone recommend a good util to use in Live session to backup an encrypted drive to another backup drive? [03:33] I used easyBCD to add a linux entry, but when I select it in the windows bootloader it takes me to a grub command prompt. I tried typing boot, but it says the kernel has to be loaded first. In any case, I want to go straight into ubunto not a command prompt. Any ideas? [03:33] Don't pay attention to the newbie haters then.;-) [03:34] Hopefully you grow to love linux. [03:34] im sure i will because i HATE windows [03:34] semitones: grub2 isn't the same [03:34] as far as where to put it [03:34] <[Adam|Miner]> I used ubuntu about a year ago and there was no support for my broadcom wifi card, has it changed? [03:34] Xgates, there isn't one config file that you edit? [03:35] [Adam|Miner]: possibly [03:35] tweiseman: Your head will hurt next time you look at windows......trtust me. =) [03:35] [Adam|Miner]: try the live cd [03:35] <[Adam|Miner]> I'll test then [03:35] anyone know if in grub2 for Karmic if you want to add an entry if you are suppose to add that into /etc/grub.d/40_custom? [03:35] sirconis, it sounds like you need to fix your grub, wherever it is installed [03:35] Well in reality, the best support for windows files right now is to use vbox, but that actually installs windows. [03:35] does Kubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Daily Build updated to kde 4.4 ? [03:35] 9.10 doesn't work with my broadcom, LiveCD or installed. YMMV [03:35] pingFloyd I dunno about all BSD users being macho he-man but I'm in elite NAVY SEALs physical condition and I'm 6 foot tall with a beard -- basically a spartan ninja killing machine and the Spartan nature of OpenBSD appeals to me where userfriendliness is fancy insecure bloated nonsense and Spartans shun the fancy [03:35] Puts windows where it should be. In a controlled window.:-) [03:35] sirconis, I think you'd have to boot off the ubuntu live cd to fix it [03:36] Daughain, yeah i know what virtualbox is [03:36] semitones: uses a config called grub.cfg but you have to make changes elsewhere [03:36] dodecahedron: and you're a millionaire too right? Just like every other person on irc. [03:36] Xgates, ok, let me read up on it. :) [03:36] billybigrigger: Cool.....Never know, y'know? [03:36] Daughain, i'm stuck in the boonies right now away from home, this would have been done long time ago but don't have the means to do it, i wanted a pure native linux method [03:36] dodecahedron: because everyone on irc is a millionaire womanizing badass [03:36] pingfloyd no actually I'm not a millionaire (at least not yet) but I don't doubt that one day I might be a millionaire or billionaire [03:36] hey guys i had a question do i need to install the restricted drivers to properly connect my tv tuner to my machine you know via mythbuntu [03:37] billybigrigger: There isnt one. =( Not for JB. [03:37] Daughain, i was pointed to redsn02 [03:37] redsn0w [03:37] just can't get it to work properly, problems with libwxgtk2.8- [03:37] lemme dig up the error [03:37] billybigrigger: redsn0w doesnt support the newer bl's. [03:37] bl's? [03:38] Bootloaders. [03:38] Is it safe to delete the contents of /usr/local/bin/ ? [03:38] well how do i find my bootloader version [03:38] pingfloyd I'm not actually a NAVY SEAL I just do their exercise regimen because I'm a health fanatic [03:38] i went into settings, and about, saw os version and model number/serial number, just no bootloader version [03:38] >_< It's frustrating because it has worked before. I ran wubi, and it installed ubuntu and added an entry in the windows bootlaoder. This time it didn't. :( [03:38] ./redsn0w: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:38] Ziggyzxxyl: that is were some programs install to [03:38] billybigrigger: I dont remember......I can do it with the ipod in my hands, but cant explain it step by step. =( [03:38] pingfloyd or I should say a fitness fanatic [03:38] dodecahedron your a knobba.... off ya trot [03:38] Daughain, ^^ [03:39] Ziggyzxxyl: no, that contains executable binary files, you need them, it's not a waste-bin :) [03:39] !find libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0 [03:39] Wait.......*sn0wusualy refers to an unlock app for an iphone. [03:39] i'm a bit confused folks. why would installing xmonad make me lose window borders and other wm functions in gnome?? [03:39] says it will work with ipod touches aswell [03:39] *ra1n is the jb app, *sn0w is unlock. [03:40] hi. Today I had an automatic update. It has resulted in problems. Namely. Firefox will not start 'dbus error' and the biggest problem X11forwarding is now broken 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication". Any ideas/solutions? [03:40] iflema I don't speak street slang or whatever nonsense you spew [03:40] billybigrigger: You have a usb2 port? usb1 wont work. [03:40] File libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0 found in libwxgtk2.8-0 [03:40] militant: I'm guessing its like using openbox with kde the WM is trying to be just that a Wm with Gnome being the DE. [03:40] Daughain, brand new laptop as of 2 weeks ago, i imagine it's got usb2 [03:40] semitones: got it, need to add any entries into ----> /etc/grub.d/40_custom [03:40] billybigrigger: Ya.....If not usb3...... [03:41] redsn0w.com says right on the first page, unloack and jailbreak tool [03:41] Xgates, did you make the file executable? [03:41] recommenda sitefor linksyswifi g..passphrase tohex/ansii [03:41] kk [03:41] there went the jerry springer entertainment :( [03:41] my bad, it says, iphone and ipod touch jailbreak tool [03:41] semitones: you have to add any custom entries you want into /etc/grub.d/40_custom then after making entries in that file you run ---> update-grub :) [03:41] mrpink57: yeah i did have an option for e16+gnome and i tried logging into that before the regular (and failing) gnome session [03:41] time for a smoke, that was some good laughs while it lasted [03:41] * Xgates got it now :) [03:42] billybigrigger: OK, does it list bootloader versions? Also, as of 4 months ago, apple put out a new firmware that hasnt been JB's yet, as far as I know, so, if the ipod is that new, that may be the issue. [03:42] i killed my php installation [03:42] Xgates, cool, good luck. I'm reading the wiki, and it's pretty confusing [03:42] how can i reinstall a package? [03:42] reinstall/repair [03:42] I'm all good now [03:42] Xgates, it looks like you're supposed to make a _file_ and put it in /etc/grub.d/ [03:42] kdasdasf: sudo apt-get install --reinstall [03:43] need to convert passphrase forwifi connecton [03:43] anto9us thx [03:43] i tried apt-get reinstall but that doesn't exist [03:43] -.- [03:43] How can this happen! X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication [03:43] hmmm it says gnome-vfs-obexftp is required by gnome but uninstallable? [03:43] militant: you could also try to wget xmonad and build from source which is what I would consider the defautl way of installing (I use dwm). [03:43] do I have to re install my server because I am seeing runlevel unknown? [03:44] anyoneofyou 1200peopleknowasitethat willconvert ansiito hex 128bit linksys? [03:44] that guy reminded me of this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00067TAWG/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=165793011&s=toys-and-games [03:44] mrpink57: that could be. but it doesn't bring my gnome back. not sure how to revert [03:44] Daughain, ipod is as new as the laptop, a few weeks [03:44] Yeah, even better. apt-get upgrade results in: [03:44] psycho_oreos, found out what was happening with my filenames, everytime it played a song it would rename it to .flac [03:44] <mscook> Setting up xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support (1.9.1.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1) ... [03:44] <mscook> Bus error [03:44] <bazhang> PingFloyd, and that relates to Ubuntu support how? [03:44] <jage> @pingfloyd, and you just kept punching that doll didn't cha? :D [03:44] <Frijolie> psycho_oreos, don't know how to stop it from doing it. can you add banshee to another group so that it doesn't have write permissions on those files? [03:45] <wolter> my karmic is taking 74s to boot, what ever happened to the supposed 10s boot? [03:45] <Biskit_laptop> hello world - I've just finished updating to 9.10 from 9.04. Is there a way to get back to the 9.04 login screen? I don't like the looks of the 9.10 screen. [03:45] <semitones> PingFloyd, too bad you couldn't get him to go to #offtopic and finish the discussion there :P [03:45] <Daughain> billybigrigger: Ouch......May not be JB'd yet then. research on the site. about a month after the 3GS was on the market a new firmware was out and hadnt been JB';d. Ipod and Iphone run the same firmware. [03:45] <Daughain> billybigrigger: I used to have the serial number list for the iphones, but not any more. [03:45] <semitones> bazhang, there was a guy in here talking about how freeBSD was better than linux [03:46] <Daughain> billybigrigger: Keep an eye on that site and keep tabs on wat devteam is doing, since they are the ones who released redsn0w, as I recall. Not the news ya wanna hear, but, its what I know. [03:46] <psycho_oreos> Frijolie, dunno, I never used banshee personally but I've seen it appearing in stuff like managing ipods and what not [03:47] <bazhang> billybigrigger, what are you trying to accomplish [03:47] <Daughain> bazhang: He wants to JB a brand new ipod. [03:47] <Frijolie> psycho_oreos, hmm, well in general I guess..what group/permissions level do normal apps run under? [03:47] <billybigrigger> bazhang, jailbreak my ipod touch in ubuntu [03:47] <yoyoma> dudesand gals plshelp me get my wifi going -.- [03:47] <bazhang> billybigrigger, why would you want to do that; you can use iFuser to use it as normal [03:48] <billybigrigger> what's ifuser? [03:48] <psycho_oreos> Frijolie, probably under your own login I presume [03:48] <Daughain> bazhang: After jb, there are a LOT of useful apps for it. [03:48] <bazhang> billybigrigger, there is currently a PPA for it, ifuser PPA using libiphone [03:48] <psycho_oreos> yoyoma, pastebin your lspci -nnk output [03:48] <billybigrigger> can you point me to the ppa? [03:48] <[Adam|Miner]> When trying to go to Lucid, I get the popup "Unable to get exclusive lock" in Ubuntu, how do I get it to upgrade? [03:49] <bazhang> Daughain, may well be, but only on ontopic consideration would be Ubuntu support for said iPhone and/or iPod [03:49] <mscook> Hi guys. Is there a way to revert the system to the state it was in post update? [03:49] <antonio_> hello people! My blender doesn't work good, i cant click on menus or icons, but the 3d wiev works great... does anyone know why??? [03:49] <billybigrigger> [Adam|Miner], you need to ask that question in #ubuntu+1 [03:49] <mscook> Should be simple! [03:49] <Frijolie> psycho_oreos, hmm... [03:49] <bazhang> [Adam|Miner], lucid support in #ubuntu+1 [03:50] <achiang> having issues with sound in karmic, worked through quite a number of howtos on the web, still no love. http://pastebin.ca/1801012 [03:50] <jage> is there a way to search files resulting in a folder so I can drag/drop replacements as needed? [03:50] <bazhang> billybigrigger, my mistake, it's called iFuse https://launchpad.net/~jonabeck/+archive/ppa [03:50] <jhalstead> looking for a USB headset that is known to work with my linux box. anything I need to keep an eye out for? any recomendations? [03:51] <yoyoma> ineedwifi help -.- [03:51] <bazhang> yoyoma, which chipset [03:51] <psycho_oreos> yoyoma, you haven't answered my question [03:51] <Xeon06> Hey guys. I'm on Windows and trying to upload a file to my Ubuntu server. I tried both FTP and SCP and both say some variant of permission denied. The user I use to log in isn't root, but its in the list of sudoers. Anyone knows whats up with that? [03:51] <dug> i have been trying for 4 hours to get my system to get the correct runlevel and it still says runlevel unknown, can anyone here help me debug this? telinit 2 doesnt work, /etc/event.d and manually setting the upstart runlevel doesnt seem to work , I am lost [03:52] <dug> I am running 9.1 [03:52] <billybigrigger> bazhang, how do use ifuse? [03:52] <robbins62> I installed boxee from a .deb from boxee's website...how do i go about uninstalling that so i can install the newer beta version? [03:52] <Biskit_laptop> adios [03:52] <billybigrigger> bazhang, now that i remember, i installed it on a friends karmic machine...can't get it working in lucid, i think there's depends problems in lucid [03:52] <bazhang> billybigrigger, you are on lucid now? [03:52] <billybigrigger> but from what i've read it's just an app that will mount your iphone no? [03:52] <Frijolie> bazhang, where are those PPAs for iFuser? [03:52] <billybigrigger> yes [03:53] <billybigrigger> have a friends laptop in the next room with karmic [03:53] <achiang> robbins62: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep boxee -- that will give you the name of the .deb you originally installed. then, dpkg -r <name of deb> to remove [03:53] <billybigrigger> his has ifuse installed, mine doesnt [03:53] <bazhang> billybigrigger, well it will certainly be built for lucid when it is released at the end of April, otherwise lucid support is in #ubuntu+1 [03:53] <bazhang> Frijolie, https://launchpad.net/~jonabeck/+archive/ppa [03:54] <robbins62> achiang, straight forward enough! thanks man. [03:54] <achiang> robbins62: np [03:54] <yoyoma> welllnow googlefailsi will try d/ling a wep key gennerater [03:54] <Frijolie> bazhang, thanks man [03:54] <bazhang> yoyoma, what is your chipset? [03:54] <Predaking> I'm having a strange problem hooking up my linux box to the TV via HDMI. It cuts off the screen. I'm missing maybe about 200pixels from top, bottom, left, and right [03:55] <beyondcr> how do you rm a directory? [03:55] <Predaking> messing with resoulations doesn't help [03:55] <Predaking> I'm using the native 1920x1080 res [03:55] <beyondcr> i just did it lastnight and forgot [03:55] <BHoward> beyondcr, rmdir <directoryname> [03:55] <yoyoma> douhavehardwarethatsupportstvor hdtv's? [03:55] <beyondcr> ty [03:55] <Predaking> Acer Revo 3601 nVidia ION with latest drivers using HDMI port on the computer [03:55] <robbins62> Predaking, overscan perhaps? [03:55] <yoyoma> tryremoveingthe plug as ubuntu starts [03:56] <Predaking> overscan, is that a TV feature? [03:56] <yoyoma> when u think shes at the login plugit back in [03:56] <Predaking> hrm good idea [03:56] <yoyoma> workedfor meearliertodayon 8.04 [03:56] <Predaking> I'm pretty much at a dead end on new things to try [03:57] <yoyoma> alternativelyyou'd have to reconfig xserverbackto default [03:57] <beyondcr> BHoward what if the dir is not empty? [03:57] <BHoward> Predaking, ill be grabbing one of those on friday for a linux media pc. Ill be able to help you then LOL [03:57] <yoyoma> butwhat your describeing is similarto me problem [03:57] <meso_> im new here [03:57] <meso_> a semi new ubuntu lover [03:57] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys [03:58] <yoyoma> ^^same [03:58] <meso_> i have been telling everyone how much i love it [03:58] <yoyoma> xD [03:58] <dug> I am running karmic and I am getting runlevel unknown after an upgrade from jaunty, why would this by? [03:58] <dug> be? [03:58] <yoyoma> i loveditwhen mywififworkedallplugandplay -.- [03:58] <Predaking> BHoward: yea it's a sweet little box but if I can't get ubuntu to run on my TV.... :( I'll have to use windows yucj! [03:58] <jacquesdupontd> i would like to create a .iso or .img file , i've download a release but i only have the directory tree with all files and i need to make it bootable on a usb key [03:58] <meso_> I had vista for a while and finally took the plung [03:58] <jacquesdupontd> do you know how i could do in the terminal ? [03:58] <yoyoma> pred i'm sureyou canget it torun [03:59] <BHoward> beyondcr, rm -rf <directory name> [03:59] <beyondcr> ty [03:59] <beyondcr> dir [03:59] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, it would seem that you've downloaded the wrong file... [04:00] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, it should give you a .iso file if you downloaded it from ubuntu.com, which you can make a bootable usb key from [04:00] <semitones> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download [04:00] <max1234> I don't have the option to minimize or exit out of any windows? [04:00] <militant> mrpink57: any idea how to get gnome back to its default behavior, acting as full wm/de/etc? :/ [04:01] <gsgleason> max1234 it sounds like you're missing a window manager [04:01] <Ellocomotive> Hello Everyone, I am considering changing my netbook OS from WinXP to Linux, is this the right spot? [04:01] <beyondcr> can some one point me to creating command shortcuts in a gnome menu? [04:01] <beyondcr> via command line === kgs_ is now known as kgs [04:01] <max1234> all my compiz effects are working, how can I tell? [04:02] <bfshadow_> alguien habla español?? [04:02] <Ellocomotive> Hello Everyone, I am considering changing my netbook OS from WinXP to Linux, is this the right spot? I am a newbie so I have a few general questions. [04:02] <bfshadow_> VIVAN WINDOWS!!! [04:02] <bfshadow_> jejejejeje [04:02] <jacquesdupontd> its Mer and i don't see any iso file [04:02] <militant> Ellocomotive: Ubuntu netbook remix is pretty good, in my opinion. i'll answer your questions if i can [04:02] <Kurzweil> Yeah Ellocomotive. This is the right place [04:02] <dug> is anyone here experienced upstart or know why my runlevel would be unknown? [04:03] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, i didn't made anything wrong, my question is simple, how to create an bootable iso file ? [04:03] <jacquesdupontd> from a folder [04:03] <ericjames> this script, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m26200f96 , was working fine, and now I'm getting an "unexpected '(' on line 7" error. any ideas? [04:03] <max1234> how can I make sure I have a windows manager running? [04:03] <dug> Kurzweil: anychance you know anything about why a runlevel would be unknown? [04:03] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, you don't create it, you download it [04:03] <Ellocomotive> Thanks guys, I'm curious as to how I would get drivers for my netbook, do drivers have to be compatible with linux? [04:03] <militant> mrpink57: enabling compiz effects actually got me back to normal just now. it said effects couldn't be enabled, and dumped me back, and gave me my proper fucntions and behaviors [04:04] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, how do you know what you downloaded is right? [04:04] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, cause i know how to read things [04:04] <semitones> .. [04:04] <Kurzweil> dug: nope. SOrry. I'm actually a mac user.. just here to experiment. [04:04] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, you wanna check for me that would be much appreciated maybe i was wrong semitones [04:05] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, yes, maybe you are right -- could you send me a link to what you downloaded so I can check? [04:05] <semitones> or see what you got anyway [04:05] <dug> Kurzweil: thx [04:06] <bfshadow_> windows rocks! :P [04:06] <dug> semitones: anychance you could help me debug why my runlevel is unknown? [04:06] <gsgleason> max, is compiz running? can you open a terminal? [04:06] <max1234> yea [04:06] <bfshadow_> alguien habal español? :) [04:06] <gsgleason> ps -efw|grep compiz [04:06] <semitones> dug, i don't have that kind of knowhow, sorry :( [04:07] <semitones> but maybe someone else here does [04:07] <ericjames> this script: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m26200f96 ; was working fine, and now I'm getting an error "unexpected '(' on line 7". any ideas? === Walt_Tollefson is now known as [hudnix] [04:07] <dug> semitones: I have tried here for hours... I cant seem to get anyone who know the real interworkings of the boot process [04:08] <yoyoma> huh? [04:08] <Random832> ericjames; the word "function" there is nonstandard, take it out [04:08] <yoyoma> awmanid/led a random wepkey egn-.- [04:08] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.16#Released_images [04:08] <yoyoma> sob -.- [04:08] <semitones> dug, you might have better luck with the forums at ubuntuforums.org -- there's a better chance someone who knows will see your question [04:09] <ericjames> Random832: thank you! :) [04:10] <bazhang> yoyoma, what are you trying to do? you said you had problems with your wifi [04:10] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, oh, I see -- I thought you were downloading an ubuntu release [04:10] <bazhang> yoyoma, how does this relate to a 'wep key generator'? [04:11] <gsgleason> remove the word function [04:11] <[hudnix]> having trouble installing 9.10 on the second drive with win7 already installed on the other one. The installer insists that the drives are mirrored even thought they're not , and will only install to a /dev/mapper/... drive name. /dev/sd[ab] is not available in the installer, even though they're there in gparted. Any suggestions? [04:11] <semitones> jacquesdupontd, if you want to put those in a .iso file, you could use k3b to make an iso [04:12] <yoyoma> aaarrrgh [04:12] <bazhang> yoyoma, ?? [04:12] <yoyoma> sry-.- 3hrsof googling andaskingpeoplefor wifihelp [04:12] <bazhang> yoyoma, what is this 'wep key generator' ; stop repeating yourself and answer my question please [04:13] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, in fact it wouldn't work and things are not working like that to make them bootable but i know how to do now, if you're curious http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Making_x86_Mer_Bootable [04:13] <jacquesdupontd> semitones, thx for helping [04:13] <semitones> thanks [04:13] <Helius> anyone good with backup software for ubuntu [04:13] <yoyoma> i need to convert my pass phrazeto 128bit??or linksys g..hex so i can manually config my wifi in ubuntu [04:13] <yoyoma> baz^ [04:14] <yoyoma> ohmy routerisnetgear-.- [04:14] <ericjames> Random832: the script still isn't working as it was before (-_-); [04:14] <thiefy> yoyoma, you don't need to convert your key to hex. [04:14] <yoyoma> so farromeing doesnothing..despite w 50%+ signals [04:14] <Random832> ericjames; what is it doing wrong now? [04:14] <ericjames> Random832: you helped me to resolve the "unexpected ')'" problem [04:14] <bazhang> yoyoma, are you talking about cracking router/wep encrytption? simply use a web browser to get into the router's admin page and change it [04:14] <thiefy> yoyoma, why would you want to ever use wep? [04:14] <cj> , [04:14] <Royall> my built-in webcam on my Dell inspiron 1525 laptop isn't being recognized (ie no video0) [04:15] <yoyoma> omg...its whatis configuredasthe protection [04:15] <bazhang> yoyoma, you are not making any sense [04:15] <thiefy> yoyoma, huh? [04:15] <thiefy> yoyoma, i think he might be drunk. [04:15] <bazhang> yoyoma, stop repeating yourself and answer my questions please [04:15] <yoyoma> itissetup asawep protectednetwork [04:15] <ericjames> Random832: so DEVS is set to 'stylus touch eraser' and rotate_devices() has a loop for DEV in $DEVS [04:15] <yoyoma> dudewth... [04:15] <bazhang> yoyoma, so you are trying to crack it? [04:16] <thiefy> yoyoma, then change it to use wpa encryption. [04:16] <cratel> gnome sound recorder is reporting "could not negotiate format" when I try to record. I have tried all the types (ogg, wav, etc.) karmic === shai_ is now known as shai [04:16] <ericjames> Random832: which should set each device's rotation [04:16] <art_> hello [04:16] <yoyoma> youaretelling meidonot need to convert my pass phrase anymore? [04:16] <bazhang> yoyoma, what are you talking about? [04:16] <thiefy> yoyoma, right, you don't convert it. the router hashes it for you. [04:16] <yoyoma> its my password on my home netowrk... [04:16] <ericjames> Random832: instead, it is now trying to set the rotation for one device names 'stylus touch eraser' which doesn't exist [04:17] <Random832> that $'\n' is nonstandard [04:17] <bazhang> yoyoma, simply log in to the router via a web browser and reset it [04:17] <thiefy> yoyoma, you dont need to know anythinga bout the hex of your password. [04:17] <yoyoma> i just want to manually config wifi so it will work... [04:17] <art_> What about you talking ? [04:17] <thiefy> yoyoma, go to 192.168.1.1 [04:17] <Random832> just do IFS=' and on the next line ' [04:17] <bazhang> art_, Ubuntu support [04:17] <thiefy> yoyoma, and see what your password is in here. [04:17] <art_> ok [04:17] <yoyoma> ugh [04:17] <yoyoma> no [04:17] <thiefy> haha [04:17] <thiefy> no? [04:18] <thiefy> umm, ok. [04:18] <yoyoma> yesnoyou dweeb.. [04:18] <bazhang> yoyoma, you are not making sense then. === w0rd is now known as juso [04:18] <bazhang> yoyoma, please take chat elsewhere [04:18] <yoyoma> i amnot leaveingthewifi evenmore open-.- [04:18] <[hudnix]> so, anyone know why the installer continues to insist that two previously mirrored drives are still mirrored and refuses to offer an unmirrored installation? === Firewall is now known as Guest20052 [04:18] <yoyoma> what?!?! [04:18] <ericjames> Random832: worked like a charm. [04:18] <thiefy> yoyoma, hook a wired cable and hook your computer up to the router and get at the config page that way. [04:18] <ericjames> Random832: thanks so much. [04:18] <Random832> the underlying issue is that bash has nonstandard extensions to the sh language [04:19] <yoyoma> i know how to log into my router-.- [04:19] <bazhang> yoyoma, then do so and stop repeating yourself [04:19] <thiefy> yoyoma, so state what your problem is. [04:19] <yoyoma> ubuntu needsapassphraseor hexcodeto setup awificonnection .... [04:20] <thiefy> yoyoma, right. do you know what your passphrase is? [04:20] <yoyoma> youcon'tjusttype thewordin there [04:20] <ericjames> Random832: any idea why it would have worked fine, then suddenly failed? [04:20] <thiefy> yoyoma, or your password. [04:20] <yoyoma> yes.. [04:20] <Random832> ericjames; when did it work fine? [04:20] <ericjames> for the past two weeks I've been using it. [04:20] <Random832> all i can think of is it running under bash before and a different sh now - did you do any installs or uninstalls between when ti worked and when it didn't? [04:20] <thiefy> yoyoma, you type it in your wireless icon that is in your notification area on the ubuntu panel on your desktop after you select your network. [04:21] <ericjames> Random832: I installed thinkfinger, but that shouldn't have had any effect [04:21] <[BAF64]> hi, is there any clean/recommended way to maintain a shell-less SSH connection open to do some port forwards permanently (reconnecting as necessary, etc)? [04:21] <yoyoma> right..itsconnected..hardware is detected...but idon'thave aconnection..i'm trying to manually config it [04:21] <ericjames> Random832: anyway, thanks for helping me resolve that :) [04:22] <maxagaz> my usb disk don't mount automatically anymore, what package do I miss ? [04:22] <bazhang> yoyoma, what chipset [04:22] <yoyoma> i810 [04:22] <mrb427> for C++ can I use the same counter in multiple for loops in one program [04:22] <thiefy> yoyoma, make sure your wireless is turned on (if you have a laptop) some of them have a little toggle switch on the side of it. [04:22] <jeeez> how do i change the prompt colors etc in terminal? [04:22] <bazhang> yoyoma, the chipset of your wireless nic [04:22] <yoyoma> ican'tsimplyclicktheicon..whereusuallyi'dhave a list of networks.. [04:23] <yoyoma> linksys wusb54g [04:23] <yoyoma> v2? [04:23] <tautologism> epinky: hey not sure if you're still online. Anyway I completed a couple of configuration merges (ie answered the y/i/n/o/d/z prompt). The first one was for /etc/bash.bashrc; not sure of the others. do-release-upgrade is still running, but I'm able to ssh in again. weird. [04:23] <thiefy> open a terminal. and type in ifconfig and make sure your wireless is on and ready to work. [04:24] <yoyoma> and yes it has lights [04:24] <yoyoma> ahwilldotheify [04:24] <yoyoma> willdo [04:24] <yoyoma> one second [04:25] <semitones> I have that exact card [04:25] <semitones> It hasn't worked in the latest versions of ubuntu... === Guest20052 is now known as Firewallzero [04:25] <Roasted> how do I cahnge my login screen [04:26] <semitones> stopped working abound 8.10... [04:26] <thiefy> aah, so it's not his fault eh semitones ? [04:26] <semitones> maybe not heh [04:26] <thiefy> that is sad... [04:26] <thiefy> poor guy. [04:26] <thiefy> wierd how a linksys card woudn't be supported... [04:26] <semitones> but I don't know -- maybe my computer is just screwed up, and wusb54gv2 is supported, I don't know [04:26] <thiefy> heh [04:27] <thiefy> where'd he go? [04:27] <thiefy> yoyoma, are you still alive? did you fall off your chair? [04:27] <semitones> I wish the supported wifi hardware were kept up to date.. [04:27] <thiefy> tis why i use wired where ever i can. [04:29] <thiefy> i think yoyoma is in danger.... he's pinged out! heheh [04:29] <thiefy> his wifi card exploded. === charitwo is now known as sekrit [04:32] <Dread348> I installed a CLI only version of linux to a server box from a USB flash drive and when I remove the flash drive is has an error, cannot find bootable device. help? [04:32] <barcode> how do i connect to my router on command line :( [04:32] <bazhang> Dread348, which version of Ubuntu ; using which tool to write the usb [04:34] <Dread348> I am using minimal CD image and I have tried using UNEbootin and others. All with the same result [04:34] <looksharp> hello [04:35] <Dread348> I suspect that like a GUI version I need to use the install command but I don't know it for the CLI [04:35] <thiefy> Dread348, could it be something stupidly easy, like making sure your bios is set to try to boot from teh HD , and not just from the usb key? [04:35] <Dread348> Sorry, I am REALLY new to linux [04:35] <looksharp> is ubuntu have yum command ? [04:35] <bazhang> looksharp, no [04:35] <thiefy> Dread348, no prob, but nice to try the easy solutions first. [04:36] <Dread348> I have tried to only boot from the HDD and it is set properly on master by IDE [04:36] <thiefy> looksharp, no. that's redhat. [04:36] <looksharp> ok ty [04:36] <thiefy> looksharp, ubuntu uses apt [04:36] <looksharp> is it similiar to yum ? [04:36] <thiefy> looksharp, very. [04:36] <thiefy> looksharp, hehhe, i'm no expert, but i belive they are very similar in function. [04:37] <looksharp> i see [04:37] <Dread348> looksharp, the command name makes me want Doritos :) [04:37] <thiefy> looksharp, you can type sudo apt-get install gparted (and you will install a partition manager program) [04:37] <looksharp> haha [04:37] <christianran> hello [04:37] <acovrig> I am running Ubuntu 8.?? (idk version, how do I tell?), how do I send e-mails from the cmd-line to a gmail account? [04:37] <looksharp> cool [04:37] <looksharp> what about wget [04:37] <ardchoille> !version | acovrig [04:37] <thiefy> achiang, type uname -r into a terminal [04:37] <ubottu> acovrig: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » [04:38] <looksharp> does it support that command also [04:38] <christianran> welcome to beijing [04:38] <ardchoille> thiefy: that doesn't tell you the versionof Ubuntu [04:38] <acovrig> ok, I am running Ubuntu 9.04, how do I send e-mails from the cmd-line to a gmail account? [04:38] <achiang> thiefy: why? [04:39] <thiefy> looksharp, yes, it does. [04:39] <looksharp> well, thanks for the info [04:39] <looksharp> cause i am new on linux i am trying to decide which opreating system to use [04:40] <semitones> !botsnack [04:40] <ubottu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [04:40] <thiefy> achiang, type cat /etc/lsb-release -A and it tells your lots of good stuff. [04:40] <huu> sssss [04:40] <achiang> thiefy: um, are you confusing me with someone else? [04:40] <ardchoille> achiang: he is [04:40] <thiefy> looksharp, i would say you chose the right one. [04:41] <looksharp> :) [04:41] <achiang> ardchoille: heh, ok. :) [04:41] <thiefy> achiang, probaly.i meant that to go to acovrig. [04:41] <acovrig> !botsnack [04:41] <ubottu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [04:41] <thiefy> your names are similar. [04:41] <thiefy> heh [04:41] <supernoob> help: nautilus crashes when trying to connect network/smb/etc [04:41] <Dread348> anybody about my non-bootable drive? [04:41] <acovrig> I am running Ubuntu 9.04, how do I send e-mails from the cmd-line to a gmail account? [04:41] <thiefy> looksharp, see, the bot just made a apt / yum joke... [04:42] <supernoob> !lbglib [04:42] <supernoob> !libglib [04:42] <thiefy> acovrig, i'd be surprised if you could achieve that. [04:42] <thiefy> acovrig, though, i have no idea if you can or can't. just be real surpised if you could. [04:42] <jacobfogg_> Just got ubuntu 9.1 installed. Finally got the wireless card working... but web pages are loading very slow. [04:42] <thiefy> Dread348, could it be something stupidly easy, like making sure your bios is set to try to boot from teh HD , and not just from the usb key? [04:42] <blakkhei1> !info mailx | acovrig [04:42] <acovrig> lol, i've seen turorials that haven't worked, but they configured their mailx to use gmail as their smarthost [04:43] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, using firefox? [04:43] <ubottu> acovrig: mailx (source: bsd-mailx (8.1.2-0.20081101cvs-2ubuntu1)): Transitional package for mailx rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1:20081101-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB [04:43] <blakkhei1> acovrig: i do that with ssmtp [04:43] <jacobfogg_> yep [04:43] <acovrig> blakkhei1, how [04:44] <Losha> acovrig: mailx is a cli front-end. You also need a mail back end configured. I use ssmtp for the backend, personally [04:44] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, try chrome. go to any youtube page and you'll see a link to chrome for linux. see if it is any different. [04:44] <blakkhei1> acovrig: setup the ssmtp.conf to use the gmail account, pipe the commands to mail [04:44] <jacobfogg_> trying [04:44] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, i just inst. chrome and it works great on 9.10. [04:44] <acovrig> where is ssmtp.conf? [04:45] <Dread348> thiefy, I have tried that....Normally, when you install from a USB key. After installation can you remove the USB Key and boot to linux? Or do you have to leave the key in and execute a command to transfer the bootable system to the HDD? [04:45] <acovrig> /etc/ssmtp? [04:45] <blakkhei1> ^ [04:45] <Losha> acovrig: apt-get install ssmtp. Then it's in /etc/ssmtp [04:45] <Dread348> thiefy, that sounded REALLY dumb [04:46] <thiefy> Dread348, i know nothing about a CLI / no gui install, but after you've done the install, you can shut down and reboot and it should be all good to go. meaning - no other command... [04:46] <acovrig> ok, in the conf, it says hostname=ubuntu (my computer's name), would I put my dyndns address here? === PirateGoose is now known as goose [04:46] <thiefy> Dread348, hey, if there is a easy solution, try it first. [04:46] <blakkhei1> acovrig: put your computer's hostname there [04:46] <acovrig> local host name? [04:46] <Dread348> thiefy, thanks I will go and try it again on your recomendations [04:46] <blakkhei1> acovrig: yes [04:47] <acovrig> in /etc/hosts as 127.0.1.1 [04:47] <semitones> meh I don't care enough to sign up for battlenet [04:47] <blakkhei1> acovrig: just leave it as ubuntu [04:47] <semitones> wrong tab [04:47] <thiefy> Dread348, make srue it's actually installed. [04:47] <acovrig> ok, I have gone through the conf, now what? [04:48] <thiefy> Dread348, you could reboot with a GUI ubuntu on a usb key and see waht's on the hard drive. see if the bloody OS is even there. haha [04:49] <Losha> acovrig: now type something like: mailx -v -s 'test1' acovrig@gmail.com [04:49] <Losha> acovrig: then hit return, type your message, end with ctrl-d [04:51] <acovrig> send-mail: Cannot open mail:25 [04:51] <acovrig> Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1<br> [04:51] <acovrig> oops, without the '<br> [04:52] <Losha> acovrig: that's a backend problem. Something wrong with your ssmtp.conf. Did you put in a mailhub line? [04:52] <acovrig> idk, guess not [04:52] <blakkhei1> acovrig: sudo cp /usr/sbin/ssmtp /usr/sbin/sendmail [04:53] <acovrig> mailhub=mail [04:53] <LordHawke13> Is there a way for ls to list files recursively with full file path but with no extra lines like '/path/to/dir:' [04:53] <blakkheim> sorry acovrig got disconnected, did that work? [04:54] <absolutex3> use find [04:54] <Losha> acovrig: er, no, you need an actual real live mailhost that will take the mail and deliver it. Does your ISP supply one? Mine does (smtp.comcast.net) [04:54] <LordHawke13> How? [04:54] <absolutex3> terminal [04:54] <absolutex3> just type find [04:54] <acovrig> I have comcast, but never heard of that [04:54] <LordHawke13> I know that, I don't knwo the syntax or the way it's used. . . [04:55] <LiraNuna> my system hangs with no ping and no ssh every ~20 minutes. How can I debug what's causing it? it all started with the latest recent kernel update [04:55] <LordHawke13> I've never used find [04:55] <acovrig> <blakkheim>yes and no, ssmtp and sendmail are the same file [04:55] <absolutex3> ?, read the help via find --help [04:55] <Losha> acovrig: Try copying most of this: http://www.destr0yr.com/article.php/Gmail_and_sSMTP [04:56] <blakkheim> acovrig: that's what you want [04:56] <serenitysman> stuck on ubuntu, need help, how do i get from grub [04:56] <Losha> LiraNuna: er, drop back to the previous kernel? [04:56] <trancefat> Hello, what is a good chm reader for ubuntu? i was considering fbreader [04:56] <LiraNuna> Losha, I'd love to help solve the problem too [04:56] <serenitysman> well i downloaded the windows installer and it says there is no kernel [04:57] <LiraNuna> I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem [04:57] <wifihelp> lol [04:57] <Losha> trancefat: I've always used kchmviewer, but I'm sure there are others... [04:57] <wifihelp> kk [04:57] <trancefat> Losha, okay, thanks [04:57] <wifihelp> so i'mtryingto getubuntu toprecognisemywifi passphrase... [04:58] <wifihelp> ??^^ [04:58] <Losha> LiraNuna: not to sound snotty, but kernel issues are probably best left to the kernel hackers. At this stage, the most helpful thing you can do is confirm it's due to the kernel change [04:58] <ardchoille> wifihelp: Is there a problem with your space ley? [04:58] <wifihelp> yes -.- [04:58] <thiefy> wifihelp, [04:58] <thiefy> <yoyoma> linksys wusb54g [04:58] <thiefy> <yoyoma> v2? [04:58] <ardchoille> wifihelp: ok, will ignore your lines then [04:58] <thiefy> <semitones> I have that exact card [04:58] <tonsofpcs> ardchoille: is there a problem with your 'k' ley? :) [04:58] <FloodBot3> thiefy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:58] <thiefy> <semitones> It hasn't worked in the latest versions of ubuntu... [04:58] <wifihelp> i willtry to check it before i send [04:58] <thiefy> <semitones> stopped working abound 8.10... [04:58] <wifihelp> yesthefy [04:58] <tonsofpcs> err [04:58] <ardchoille> tonsofpcs: nope [04:59] <tonsofpcs> :s/wifihelp/ardchoille/g [04:59] <LiraNuna> Losha, I think you are wrong - maybe I can't "solve" the problem, but I can give enough information to let them solve it [04:59] * tonsofpcs is tired [04:59] <thiefy> wifihelp, your card is said to not work in the new versions of ubuntu. [04:59] <Talon_> I don't think ubuntu is utilizing my CPU correctly. Anybody else running an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ ? [04:59] <Losha> LiraNuna: by all means... [04:59] <acovrig> ok, is there any way to send mail to my ubuntu box? [04:59] <wifihelp> =o [04:59] <ardchoille> tonsofpcs: That's enough please [04:59] <thiefy> wifihelp, i don't have that card, but he says it probaly doesn't work. [04:59] <blakkheim> Talon_: what makes you think that [04:59] <wifihelp> itisworking [04:59] <jacobfogg_> thiefy: Chrome is faster, internet is great... domain name resolution [04:59] <serenitysman> anyone have any idea why the windows installer version says that there is no kernels when i installed it it showed the os running like a normal now it only looks like it will stay in a dos? [04:59] <jacobfogg_> is very slow [04:59] <thiefy> wifihelp, hmm, maybe that was just his computer then... [04:59] <absolutex3> any one want to help me build my site? [04:59] <Talon_> its supposed to be a 3ghz processor.. /proc/cpuinfo shows it as a 1ghz [04:59] <wubi> where i change my hostname [05:00] <tonsofpcs> ardchoille: pull it out. [05:00] <blakkheim> Talon_: you might want to look up cpu scaling [05:00] <wifihelp> it IS working i just needthe hex version ofmypassword [05:00] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, you say chrome is also slow? [05:00] <Losha> acovrig: more trouble than it's worth. Send mail out via ssmtp and read it on gmail via firefox... [05:00] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, change your dns provider to opendns if you think dns is slow. [05:00] <mgmuscari> has anybody got catalyst 10.2 working with compiz under karmic? [05:00] <wifihelp> and i believe it needs tobe 13-26 charecters long and inhex [05:00] <jacobfogg_> looking now... thanks! [05:00] <thiefy> wifihelp, no you don't, jsut you need the not-hex version of the key. [05:00] <acovrig> well, I am wanting to send an e-mail and have my ubuntu box save it as a .txt, can I do that/ [05:00] <acovrig> ? [05:00] <semitones> wifihelp, does it connect to an access point with disabled security? [05:00] <wifihelp> like on the ps3manual wi fi set up [05:01] <mgmuscari> there are posts floating around about compiz segfaulting with catalyst 10.2 - no resolutions in the usual places yet [05:01] <wifihelp> yes [05:01] <Talon_> blakkheim, its a desktop PC, isn't scaling for laptops n such to save on heat & battery? [05:01] <thiefy> jacobfogg_, on opendns' page, i the server ips are right on the home page somewerhe...top right corner i think? [05:01] <semitones> wifihelp, hmm, mine can't even do that [05:01] <wifihelp> itdetects abunchofnetwroksincludeingmine [05:01] <thiefy> wifihelp, ooooh, ok, on a ps3, i have no idea. [05:01] <wifihelp> lol [05:01] <wifihelp> theif its essentially the same [05:01] <thiefy> wifihelp, still though, that seems wierd that it woudl want the hash of the key and not just the normal key. [05:01] <semitones> maybe mine's broken :P it detects them, but it can't connect [05:02] <serenitysman> anyone got any exp with ubuntu [05:02] <wifihelp> i have done itbefore and ubuntu wants the hex [05:02] <Losha> acovrig: Sort of. You can create a text file and then use mailx to send it. Or just bcc yourself when you send it so you get a copy of it in your mailbox [05:02] <wifihelp> just like theps3 wants thehex [05:02] <semitones> wifihelp, if you're connecting with network manager, it should ask for the plain text password.. [05:02] <h0rnman> Has anyone here had successful dealings with the ath928x WiFi driver in Karmic? [05:02] <thiefy> wifihelp, you can (on some routers) see the hash (the hex) of your wifi key in the router's setup page. [05:03] <thiefy> wifi makes me cry. [05:03] <wifihelp> yea, but forsome reasoni can'tlogin tomyroutereither [05:03] <acovrig> no, use firefox from computera, persay, to send an email to my ubuntu at home and have it save the body as a .txt? [05:03] <thiefy> wifihelp, go to 192.168.1.1 with a WIRED connection to it. [05:04] <wifihelp> basically..all i need is a ansii to hex generater.. all ifindon google is random's [05:04] <wifihelp> comcast has a site [05:04] <Losha> acovrig: it can be done, but configuring a mail receiver is a lot more work than configuring outgoing mail. Why not just save it on the home machine from firefox using 'save as'? [05:04] <wifihelp> we go there instead of routerip [05:05] <thiefy> wifihelp, http://centricle.com/tools/ascii-hex/ [05:05] <thiefy> wifihelp, that is a converter tool (least the site says it is.) i've no use for it... [05:05] <thiefy> wep makes babies cry. you sholuld really consider moving to WPA. [05:05] <acovrig> Losha, you misunderstand, I want to remotely email an address and have my ubuntu to save it as a text file without any user interaction, remotely [05:05] <absolutex3> /exit === Jayle is now known as Kronus [05:06] <wifihelp> yup, tried that..it is not 128 bit [05:06] <wifihelp> ty [05:06] <wubi> o [05:06] <acovrig> absolutex3, do u mean /leave or /quit? [05:06] <wifihelp> lol [05:06] <thiefy> wifihelp, if your using wep, you might as well use a 40 char key. wep is not safe anymore, a longer key won't do you much good. [05:07] <wifihelp> linksys is diffrent from other hexs too [05:07] <wifihelp> lol [05:07] <wifihelp> theinternetitself is not safe anymore [05:07] <wifihelp> lolol [05:07] <Losha> acovrig: yes, it can be done, but it's a lot of work, google 'setting up a mail server on ubuntu' and best of luck to you [05:07] <acovrig> wifihelp, loosing spacebar? lol [05:07] <thiefy> wifihelp [05:07] <wifihelp> yea aco [05:08] <wifihelp> itsux soo much [05:08] <thiefy> wifihelp threw his spacebar across the rooom cause of his evil wep key. [05:08] <acovrig> Losha, what do u think of http://www.emailman.com/unix/servers.html [05:08] <thiefy> should have thrown the scroll lock instead. [05:08] <wifihelp> or my spacebar is so fawked from hours of googleing for a wepkey converter [05:08] <acovrig> theify lol, gotta love long WEP keys haha [05:08] <thiefy> hah [05:08] <magn3ts> Where does GNOME store thumbnails? [05:09] <wubi> o [05:09] <thiefy> wifihelp, rip of your scroll lock and jab it into the reset button on the back of your router. [05:09] <ardchoille> magn3ts: ~/.thumbnails [05:09] <wifihelp> lol [05:09] <thiefy> then type sudo apt-get install spacebar [05:09] <acovrig> would u recommend postfix, or exim4? [05:09] <Losha> acovrig: I think it's a lot to get through for an inexperienced user, but then, I'm lazy... [05:09] <thiefy> ok, don't, maybe that's an actual program... heh [05:09] <wifihelp> rofl [05:10] <acovrig> lol, me too, but it'd be worth it to get it going, i think [05:10] <thiefy> then type sudo apt-get install spacebar-glue - taht'd help too. [05:10] <ardchoille> !ot [05:10] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [05:10] <acovrig> ubottu, what commands do you have? [05:10] <ubottu> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:10] <acovrig> lol [05:10] <thiefy> ubottu, do you run ubuntu? [05:10] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:11] <thiefy> ubottu, do you have a spacebar? [05:11] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:11] <ardchoille> !msgthebot [05:11] <ubottu> Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [05:11] <acovrig> !search factoid [05:11] <ubottu> Found: orgthingy-#ubuntu-offtopic, lazy, ubotu, worst-#ubuntu-offtopic, yes-#ubuntu-offtopic, trolls-#ubuntu-offtopic, factoids, orgything-#ubuntu-offtopic*, goodbotuse*, scope [05:11] <Losha> acovrig: As a learning exercise maybe. As I say, I'm bone idle. Is there some reason you want to be able to archive mail on a local machine? [05:12] <[hudnix]> ok, does anyone know how to get rid of the /dev/mapper crap, and have the installer install to /dev/sda or sdb? [05:13] <acovrig> I want to be able to send an sms (txt message) to an email address and have my ubuntu run the command if its from a certain user, then email the result to an email address (my phone, or gmail) [05:13] <wubi> ? [05:13] <Losha> acovrig: you can search ubottu's brain (such as it is) at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi [05:13] <wifihelp> woot i'mlogged into my router.. === goose is now known as PirateGoose [05:13] <thiefy> wifihelp, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay [05:14] <seadap> who [05:14] <thiefy> wifihelp, now quick. change it to WPA. [05:14] <thiefy> seadap, that guy -----> [05:14] <christianran> fuck [05:15] <thiefy> sure. [05:15] <thiefy> will you make breakfast after? [05:15] <wifihelp> lol [05:15] <thiefy> a lil cuddling too? [05:15] <genii> <cough> !language and also !ot [05:16] <wubi> ? [05:16] <thiefy> ! [05:16] <genii> !hi | wubi [05:16] <ubottu> wubi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [05:17] <wubi> where i chang de color [05:17] <wifihelp> oki changeditto wpa + wpa2 [05:17] <semitones> wubi, you'll have to be more specific [05:17] <wifihelp> lets try it [05:17] <Losha> acovrig: well, as I said, it's do-able, but for a beginner it will probably take weeks of debugging. I think it would be easier to setup an email address on gmail and have a daemon process check it periodically for mail from a certain user and then take appropriate action. Much less hassle and less risk than exposing a mail server to the internet [05:17] <wubi> sorry [05:18] <thiefy> wifihelp, taht is good. use AES not tkip + aes [05:18] <supernoob> help: nautilus crashes when trying to connect network/smb/etc [05:18] <thiefy> wifihelp, if you do that, then wpa1 is just as good as wpa2 [05:18] <thiefy> wifihelp, you need a crazy (63 character long) wpa key now. [05:19] <seadap> supernoob, have you all your recent updates? [05:20] <lostinspace_46> What size is a karmic install? [05:20] <genii> lostinspace_46: Typically 2.5-26Gb [05:20] <wubi> where do I change the color of my name here? [05:20] <genii> 2.6 rather [05:20] <supernoob> seadap, yes [05:20] <lostinspace_46> genii, Thank you. [05:21] <thiefy> lostinspace_46, yeah, i was gonna say a lil under 3 gigs... [05:21] <thiefy> but genii is like lightening... [05:21] <genii> wubi: The colour you see your name here depends on what program you are using to connect [05:21] <lostinspace_46> lol [05:21] <Losha> lostinspace_46: mine run closer to 4GB... [05:21] <wubi> xchat [05:22] <genii> lostinspace_46: If you don't clean out the /var/cache/apt/archives it likely will be closer to 4 as in Losha's case [05:22] <acovrig> Losha, any idea what daemon i can use? [05:22] <tonsofpcs> ardchoille: please do not PM me without permission. [05:23] <thiefy> wubi i changed mine (xchat) so that all MY name is in bright yellow. so when i see what i've typed, it's in yellow. [05:23] <acovrig> and yes, i do agree with you about the security thing, very important, given there is the sudo rm -R / command that could be EXTREMELY ugly if setup that way lol [05:23] <Dread348> thiefy, I FOUND THE PROBLEM!!1 My HDD isn't bootable so says fdisk. How do I fix that? [05:23] <thiefy> wubi, you can do this in the xhcat settings. [05:23] <wubi> tks [05:23] <mylisto2> so I can't get into my site (free hosting from 000webhost) so I had to use a proxy to get into admin...I want to upload some stuff via ftp, but I can't. is it possible to use a proxy server on lets say, Filezilla? If so, where can I get some free settings for proxy servers for filezilla [05:23] <Losha> acovrig: you'd have to write your own e.g. a shell script that's always running. Welcome to the wonderful world of programming... [05:24] <thiefy> Dread348, go get a distro called parted magic (it'll fix partitions and hds.) [05:24] <Dread348> thiefy, thanks!!! [05:24] <acovrig> how can I have a shell script check for an email on a gmail account? [05:24] <thiefy> Dread348, - if your partition is having a problem... taht'll fix it. OR maybe you just need to edit your boot file. [05:24] <coz_> acovrig, you could install gmail manager for firefox [05:25] <coz_> acovrig, easy way ^^ [05:25] <wubi> lol [05:25] <thiefy> Dread348, search google for help.ubuntu.com grub2 [05:25] <thiefy> Dread348, taht is where your boot options are. [05:26] <howie368> Hi, is anyone willing to give me a hand with an ubuntu 8.04 grub bootloader problem? [05:26] <thiefy> howie368, probaly... state what's happening. [05:27] <howie368> i need the CF slot running at boot time so grub sees my / partition [05:27] <Losha> acovrig: well, here's an example that downloads email from a gmail account: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-getmail/ [05:27] <wubi> where change my ip by a mask like that of all here [05:28] <howie368> ran lsmod in a live cd environment so i know what needs to be loaded [05:28] <wubi> ? [05:28] <thiefy> wubi, i think what you want is a bnc? [05:28] <semitones> wubi, you would have to ask for a mask in #freenode [05:28] <genii> wubi: First register what name you would like for freenode. Then go ask in the channel #freenode for a hostmask [05:28] <thiefy> aaah. [05:28] <genii> !register | wubi [05:28] <ubottu> wubi: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode [05:28] <ppaulhus> Hi. Just wondering, is it safe to do dist-upgrade on Ubuntu running on an amazon instance? seems like everytime i did it i can never get the instance to reboot properly [05:29] <thiefy> it's a tricky way to get people to register. [05:29] <wubi> tks [05:29] <wubi> lol [05:29] <Losha> thiefy: what's tricky about it? [05:29] <genii> thiefy: If you get a hostmask on an unregistered name it will disappear next login [05:30] <lostinspace_46> How would one mod the Karmic ISO to make the live cd internet ready? [05:30] <semitones> ppaulhus, it's recommended not to run "dist-upgrade" there are better ways to start the upgrade [05:30] <thiefy> i just personally think it's not necessary.. that's all. everything on the intertubes wants you to register these days... and usually there is no need to. [05:31] <semitones> lostinspace_46, it is internet ready [05:31] <ppaulhus> semitones: such as? [05:31] <Flannel> semitones: dist-upgrade doesn't have anything to do with that kind of upgrading [05:31] <semitones> oh [05:31] <semitones> thanks Flannel [05:31] <thiefy> what is amazon instance? [05:32] <thiefy> !hi | thiefy [05:32] <ubottu> thiefy, please see my private message [05:33] <Losha> thiefy: well, some of it's marketing, but you must've noticed that some people just don't behave responsibly when they're completely anonymous [05:33] <supernoob> segfault at 20706f74 ip b78ab76b sp bff26a20 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2200.3[b7851000+b8000] - trying to access trash [05:34] <thiefy> Losha, yeah, i see yer point. i heard it gives people a sense of joining something. so it makes them wanna come back. [05:34] <lostinspace_46> semitones, Not for me. I need to blacklist 2 files, use my windows wlan drivers, and run initramfs. If I burned to a DVD R/W could I do it after the burn? [05:34] <Losha> thiefy: one of those 'cloud computing' deals where you rent the cpu time and disk space from amazon... [05:34] <Explore1> Hi all, when i connect a v4l2src, how can i know to which /dev/videoX, it is connected? i mean X being 0, 1, 2etc...? [05:34] <thiefy> Losha, like those cursed grocery store 'club cards' - they make you go back so you can 'save' but really they are just to make you not want to go to a diff store. [05:35] <LLStarks> ummm. why are you guys forcing the deluge daemon if it is completely non-functional behind college firewalls? [05:36] <seanbrystone> forcing? if im not mistaking ubuntu uses transmission not deluge by default [05:36] <thiefy> Losha, i see. hmm, i would look into amazon instance help, as opposed to ubuntu help. i think you'd find better answers there. (wherever that is) [05:36] <thiefy> seanbrystone, you are right, it does come with transmission. [05:36] <Explore1> Hi all, when i connect a v4l2src, how can i know to which /dev/videoX, it is connected? i mean X being 0, 1, 2etc...?any help please?? [05:37] <genii> lostinspace_46: An oldie but goodie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html [05:37] <seanbrystone> actually transmission eats up 100% cpu, Deluge doesn't [05:37] <semitones> lostinspace_46, hmm, do any of those steps require a reboot? [05:37] <GSF1200S> anyone know of an improved alt tab for xfce? [05:37] <Explore1> Hi all, when i connect a v4l2src, how can i know to which /dev/videoX, it is connected? i mean X being 0, 1, 2etc...?any help please?? [05:38] <coz_> GSF1200S, are you using compiz? [05:38] <dunca> Anyone know a good guide that can help me prep and install and patch WoW using Wine and PlayOnLinux.. would be great -tipboy133@hotmail.com- [05:38] <GSF1200S> coz_: no but I can be.. why? [05:38] <thiefy> GSF1200S, it is easy with compiz installed. [05:38] <lostinspace_46> genii, Tried that...ended up with an 8 gig ISO. semitones initramfs does [05:38] <coz_> GSF1200S, depending on what yo u want associated with alt+tab... I am assuming window picking...compiz is much more configurable for that [05:38] <thiefy> GSF1200S, there you can easily tweak alt-tab behaviour. [05:39] <semitones> lostinspace_46, er, sorry then, I don't know [05:39] <Losha> Explore1: I would expect there to be a message in /var/log/dmesg mentioning which /dev/videoX is being used.... [05:39] <GSF1200S> thiefy, coz_: hmm ok.. hopefully it has support for seperate x sessions (dual head setup).. Thanks.. never thought about compiz [05:40] <coz_> GSF1200S, compiz will work with both instances as long as you set up the system for it [05:40] <lostinspace_46> semitones, NP, I'll get it worked out [05:40] <GSF1200S> coz_: cool.. ill give it a shot [05:40] <coz_> GSF1200S, in terms of the xlt+tab behavior on dual set ups ...I personall have nvidia so I dont need separate xscreens [05:41] <thiefy> GSF1200S, i think it does. i have dual monitors and compiz is kind to me. and i have nvidia card too.... coz. [05:41] <coz_> GSF1200S, I am assuming...although not tested here...that there should be no issue...however if there is meet us in #compiz...one of us will try to figure out the issue if its possible [05:41] <GSF1200S> i have an nvidia card too, but i have 2 vid cards [05:41] <thiefy> ooh, sneaky. [05:41] <coz_> GSF1200S, oh mmmm cool also not tested here :) [05:41] <coz_> GSF1200S, however I do know many have that set up with no issues [05:42] <GSF1200S> cool.. i had no issues with the dual head, and ive had no issues in the past with compiz.. ill try to set it up and if i have issues ill roll over to the compiz channel [05:43] <coz_> GSF1200S, I personally dont have the hardware to test all situations...however give it a try cant hurt and you can always revert if you have to :) [05:43] <acovrig> When I run getmail, from http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-getmail/, I get /usr/share/getmail4/getmailcore/baseclasses.py:26: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated [05:43] <Losha> lostinspace_46: in theory, you could take an .iso, unpack it, change files, return initramfs and then repack the iso. You'd have to make sure the repacked iso is bootable. But that's what remastersys is supposed to do anyway I thought (disclaimer: I've never used it). Might be easier to just supply a second CD with drivers and a few shell scripts to update the standard distro [05:44] <coz_> acovrig, are you wanting to back up the gmail email? [05:44] <acovrig> yes [05:44] <coz_> acovrig, ah mm hold on let me check something [05:44] <acovrig> but in .txt files as they come in, not all in 1 zip per say [05:44] <migg137> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i wont let me enable the desktop effects, i have a modern ati dedicated graphics card, and it worked on my laptop with an intel chipset any help apreciated thanks [05:45] <mgmuscari> sigh... xorg 1.6 and fglrx 8.7... any idea how to get this working in karmic? since there's no more xorg.conf, i'm up a creek without a paddle... [05:45] <mgmuscari> how do i enable glx [05:45] <coz_> migg137, here is a short factoid about that Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). For 7000 to HD4xxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD2xxx and later series cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver. [05:45] <thiefy> migg137, check 'hardware drivers' in the system - admin menu. run sudo apt-get update first though. [05:45] <coz_> migg137, if you want more indepth help go to #compiz and talk with soreau [05:46] <coz_> acovrig, look here http://www.gmail-backup.com/download [05:46] <migg137> coz_, i have like 1gb dedicated graphics [05:47] <yoyoma> wpa wasnt supported by the ap [05:47] <wolter> klappi, hey, good to be able to contact you again. I really need help with this preloading thing. Should I ask you here or go to the classroom [05:47] <wolter> ? [05:47] <coz_> migg137, I am not up on ati at all but soreau in #compiz would be the one to talk to about this at this time of day [05:47] <coz_> migg137, if you want to wait until tomorrow talk with adamk or soreau [05:47] <wolter> klappi, IF you are willing to help me haha [05:47] <wolter> i've been looking up this for hours [05:47] <acovrig> coz_, I need to automate it, and background it, I want to be able to run a shell script the moment an e-mail arrives [05:47] <migg137> coz_, thanks [05:48] <coz_> acovrig, ok then I am going to suggest going to the ##linux channel ,,,, I am betting they have another alternative for that [05:49] <coz_> acovrig, did you check into fetchmail ? I havent but it may do what you want [05:49] <migg137> coz_, sorry for being a noob but how do i talk to soreau [05:49] <coz_> acovrig, http://lifehacker.com/235207/geek-to-live--back-up-gmail-with-fetchmail [05:49] <tonsofpcs> ardchoille - I asked you not to private message me without permission. Please stop. [05:49] <lostinspace_46> Losha, Actually, I could copy my updated initramfs and Win drivers and remove the 2 files that need blacklisted. But I have no idea of where to put what in the ISO. [05:50] <coz_> migg137, well go to #compiz channel and type soreau and ask a question...if he is at his system he will respond.. [05:50] <coz_> migg137, i would wait a few minutes just in case he has fallen asleep :) [05:50] <migg137> coz_, how do i join that channel, im not very good at xchat [05:51] <genii> mgmuscari: You can generate an xorg.conf by: logout to gdm ... choose "console login" as session type. Once logged into console, stop X: sudo stop gdm then generate a new xorg: sudo X -configure then copy it to where it should be: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11 then restart gdm: sudo start gdm [05:51] <coz_> migg137, where you type something here..tyep /join #compiz [05:51] <kjdash> man irc? [05:51] <migg137> coz_, thanks alot [05:52] <coz_> migg137, no problem [05:52] <mgmuscari> genii: thanks [05:52] <Jordan_U> howie368, Add the modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules then run "sudo update-initramfs -u" [05:52] <howie368> thanks. i'll try that. [05:52] <Jordan_U> howie368, np [05:53] <shashank> hello everyone, can any one help me with the rotate command? [05:53] <shashank> hello everyone, can any one help me with the rotate command? [05:54] <pepee> man rotate ? [05:54] <shashank> I typed "rotate -r 270 *.jpg" [05:54] <shashank> Pepee, images [05:54] <pepee> ah [05:54] <shashank> Pepee, so what is wrong? [05:54] <howie368> do i need to chroot into the install on my cf card? [05:55] <floff_> hi [05:55] <shashank> Pepee Can you tell me the correct method? [05:55] <floff_> :/ [05:55] <floff_> wtf... [05:55] <pepee> shashank, know nothing about the program [05:55] <shashank> I typed "rotate -r 270 *.jpg" [05:55] <pepee> but i think you should read the man [05:55] <floff_> wtf... [05:55] <floff_> better? [05:55] <floff_> thanks [05:55] <seanbrystone> isnt that a imagemagik command? [05:55] <shashank> Pepee, Oh.. But where's the manual? [05:55] <wolter> Can somebody help me reprofile my ubuntu 9.10 system? [05:56] <wolter> Boot time is 75s [05:56] <seanbrystone> try man imagemagik or is it imagemagic? [05:56] <shashank> seanbrystone, perhaps I don't know. [05:56] <shashank> I have installed it though. [05:56] <pepee> shashank, in the console: man rotate [05:56] <shashank> pepee, trying it right now! [05:56] <Losha> lostinspace_46: I don't know the answer to that either, but someone else might. There is a remastersys forum I believe [05:56] <Helius> any real diff with 9.10 compared to 9.04 ? [05:57] <grndslm> it's my first time using 64bit os... "aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" is still installing flashplugin for 32-bit... what do i do for 64bit?? [05:57] <floff_> damn, this is hard [05:57] <shupa> thats what she said [05:58] <semitones> afaik the 32 bit version of flash works better than the linux 64 bit version, atm [05:58] <floff_> who? [05:58] <semitones> I could be wrong though [05:58] <pepee> grndslm, try flashplugin-installer [05:58] <kfox> i have a problem: http://imgur.com/zD7o5 [05:58] <kfox> how can it say the file does not exsist, when its right there?? [05:59] <pepee> well, all we have problems [05:59] <shashank> Pepee, I read the manual, figured out this is perhaps the command: rotate --rotate 270 file *.jpg [05:59] <SwedeMike> kfox: it doesn't know how to run it probably. [05:59] <pepee> kfox, use tab completion [06:00] <pepee> i mean, use tab to complete the name [06:00] <lostinspace_46> Losha, Yeah, with about 12 people in it..lol However, as usual, asking the question in here has given me an idea or two. Thanks though. [06:00] <shashank> Pepee, but I get a return message: if: Expression Syntax [06:00] <kfox> I did and still the same problem [06:00] <shashank> What is tab? [06:00] <kfox> I can vi the file [06:00] <grndslm> pepee, flashplugin-installer looks to be the same as flashplugin-nonfree... [06:00] <SwedeMike> kfox: what is it then? [06:00] <indus> kfox, you are running a binary called splunk and its not there [06:00] <kfox> I can delete it, move it [06:00] <grndslm> still pointing toward 32bit files [06:00] <SwedeMike> kfox: do "file splunk" [06:00] <shashank> Sorry for being a Noob! [06:00] <rainy-day> Why doesn't apt-get install cups create /etc/cups/cupsd.conf? how can I create it? [06:00] <indus> grndslm, ya its same [06:00] <grndslm> indus: any idea how to install 64bit flash then? [06:00] <pepee> shashank, maybe try with one file at time [06:01] <shashank> Oh... got it. [06:01] <pepee> grndslm, ahh sorry [06:01] <indus> grndslm, of coursel === rainofkayos is now known as SolarisBoy [06:01] <indus> grndslm, you came to the right person [06:01] <pepee> grndslm, my response was semi automatic... [06:01] <GSF1200S> coz_: I got that missing window decoration crap.. other than that its working.. Where do I put xfwm4 in place of metacity? [06:01] <shashank> Pepee, even then I get the same error. [06:01] <coz_> GSF1200S, gnome? [06:02] <grndslm> indus: :) nice! [06:02] <coz_> GSF1200S, oh [06:02] <GSF1200S> terminal keeps spitting out that it cant find metacity.. [06:02] <GSF1200S> im on xfce [06:02] <pepee> shashank, rotate --rotate 270 *.jpg [06:02] <GSF1200S> i dont have gnome [06:02] <semitones> !flash [06:02] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [06:02] <pepee> or rotate --rotate 270 ./*.jpg [06:02] <kfox> output for file splunk btw: [06:02] <kfox> splunk: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped [06:02] <Shdwdrgn> evening folks. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a package to *provide* dynamic dns services? Everything I look up just tells how to connect to a ddns provider. [06:02] <coz_> GSF1200S, well actually if you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed open that and under the window decoration plugin and in the "Command" field you wan t gtk-window-decorator not xfwm4 [06:03] <semitones> "Currently there is NO Adobe Flash implementation available for 64-bit processors in the Ubuntu repositories, there is only an alpha from Adobe Labs. However, three options exist:" [06:03] <semitones> (from ubottu's link) [06:03] <coz_> GSF1200S, I dont have xfce installed and we had one fellow with the same issue the other day....gtk-window-decorator on xfce should work fine [06:03] <indus> grndslm, first go here and get the plugin http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz [06:04] <Explore1> Losha: i dint find anything in /var/log/dmesg do anyone see any information regarding camera in this? http://codepad.org/vDZMRVhW [06:04] <coz_> GSF1200S, or hit alt+F2 and type gtk-window-decorator --replace [06:04] <pepee> kfox, well, very strange indeed === jage is now known as metricpiano [06:04] <indus> grndslm, then, create a folder called plugins in the hidden directory .mozilla in home folder ,extract the libflashplayer.so and move it there [06:04] <indus> grndslm, remove all older versions of flash completely [06:05] <mgmuscari> is anyone here using compiz with the latest version of fglrx and xorg 1.6? [06:05] <GSF1200S> coz_: says I dont have gtk-window-decorator [06:05] <axisys> how to make gmail as the default mail client for `Send Link' in FF 3.5.7 running on ubuntu ? [06:05] <Losha> Explore1: sometimes the disk file lags behind. What happens if you run dmesg | egrep -i video [06:05] <coz_> GSF1200S, see if you have compiz-gnome installed [06:05] <rainy-day> Why is marking libcups2 for removal automatically tries to remove about hundred+ other packages, including amarok, synaptic, thunderbird, openoffice, etc? [06:05] <yoyoma> ;.ithink iknowwhatitisow [06:05] <pepee> kfox, chmod u+w splunk [06:07] <coz_> GSF1200S, there are only 3 possible window decorators for compiz on any DE or distribution at this point....kde4-window-decorator gtk-window-decorator or emerald [06:07] <GSF1200S> coz_: that did it.. [06:07] <coz_> GSF1200S, cool :) [06:07] <GSF1200S> right.. ive never done it on xfce.. kde and gnome worked fine [06:07] <GSF1200S> emerald was bad news for me- caused screen flickering and hard freezes for me [06:07] <coz_> GSF1200S, cool yeah xfce actaally uses gtk so that is the one to use :) [06:07] <DaemonFC> Why is Firefox correcting my spelling when I use en-US spelling? It tells me I got it right when I spell something as it is in en-GB. [06:07] <shashank> pepee, I keep on getting the error "if: Expression Syntax." [06:08] <DaemonFC> How do I fix this? [06:08] <shashank> Pepee, But thanks a lot for your help. [06:08] <DaemonFC> just add to the dictionary myself? [06:08] <pepee> shashank, strange [06:08] <grndslm> indus: nope... still not working [06:09] <coz_> DaemonFC, go into Edit preferences there is a section...I believe the last tab for that [06:09] <thiefy> yoyoma, you find yer spacebar yet? [06:09] <GSF1200S> coz_: yeah, thats what ive got.. compositing works great on both screens.. Can even set options individually for each screen from ccsm [06:09] <GSF1200S> thanks [06:09] <indus> grndslm, what do ytou mean [06:09] <coz_> GSF1200S, very cool :) [06:09] <indus> grndslm, it works for sure, you did something wrong [06:09] <DaemonFC> coz_, All I see is a checkbox to turn it on or off [06:09] <indus> GSF1200S, aah suzuki [06:09] <grndslm> dropped the libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins [06:09] <grndslm> no flash [06:09] <coz_> DaemonFC, ok what did you want to do then? [06:09] <habanany> I need help installing opera 10.50 in lucid [06:09] <GSF1200S> indus: indeed [06:10] <DaemonFC> coz_, Set it to American English (en-US) [06:10] <seanbrystone> !lucid | habanany [06:10] <ubottu> habanany: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [06:11] <coz_> DaemonFC, mm that should have been done for the system I dont have an answer for you on t his one I am sure someone here does...but if not either go to ##linux channel or maybe #firefox [06:11] <habanany> ubottu I know, but I've been using it since long [06:11] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:11] <coz_> habanany, did you look here http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-i386&ver=10.10&local=y [06:11] <grndslm> indus: yup... just moved it to .mozilla/ hehe [06:11] <DaemonFC> coz_, I assume it should have selected it when it saw my time zone? [06:11] <coz_> habanany, and you should go to the #ubuntu+1 channel for linux [06:11] <indus> grndslm, no to .mozilla/plugins [06:11] <grndslm> indus: gracias, senor! [06:11] <indus> grndslm, inside plugins [06:12] <grndslm> no no... was saying that's why it didn't work [06:12] <habanany> thanks coz_ [06:12] <indus> ko [06:12] <coz_> DaemonFC, that would have helped a great deal yes.... you can google changing system language on ubuntu... I have not done that so I really cant help with this one sorry [06:12] <coz_> habanany, I have not tried that on lucid ,,,it definitly works for karmic [06:12] <grndslm> indus: any other tips for other 64bit apps that aren't in the repositories?? [06:12] <coz_> habanany, I guess I can try it hold on [06:13] <DaemonFC> coz_, I'm kind of shocked it doesn't do it, there's about 350 million people that are in for a jolt if they use Ubuntu and get a load of Firefox's spell check :) [06:13] <jacquesdupontd> hi [06:13] <habanany> coz_ that's the 10.10 , I want to install the 10.50 alpha [06:14] <coz_> habanany, oh mm let me check [06:14] <jacquesdupontd> there's a problem in ubuntu moblin remix with nvidia drivers, some modules of nvidia drivers are conflictings with clutter-glx which gives all windows empty of content, it appears there's a solution ; addiing xinerama to the xserver module, would you know how i can do that ? [06:15] <coz_> habanany, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/new-opera-1050-alpha-released-for-linux.html [06:16] <mikeliss> DaemonFC: this is usually set during install... [06:16] <mikeliss> DaemonFC: something may have gone wrong, or you may have set the wrong country or something. It's easy to change, though I don't remember how. (it's very rare to have to do it.) [06:18] <mikeliss> DaemonFC: Try going into the time & date settings and see if they're set correctly... [06:19] <jacquesdupontd> so [06:19] <habanany> Coz_ I got the package already, what I need to know is how to install it [06:19] <DaemonFC> hmmmm, it has them set to America/New_York, which is close, but not right [06:19] <jacquesdupontd> anybody can tell me how to recompile some sources with a xinerama option in it ? [06:19] <jacquesdupontd> is it hard on ubuntu [06:20] <jacquesdupontd> can i find xorgserver sources via terminal ? [06:20] * DaemonFC changed it to America/Indiana/Indianapolis [06:20] <coz_> habanany, I dont believe that is an installabe package.... just open a terminal cd to that extracted pacakge folder and ./opera do you really want to install an alpha? [06:21] <pepee> test [06:21] <floff_> jacquesdupontd: sh configure --help [06:22] <jacquesdupontd> thx [06:22] <jacquesdupontd> i promess i was going to go this way [06:22] <jacquesdupontd> ;) [06:22] <habanany> yes I really want to brake my notebook, can u explain me better how to extract [06:23] <jacquesdupontd> but for now it seems from all thread im reading nobody has managed to resolve the problem, so we can't say ubuntu-moblin-remix works, it only works on ati cards [06:23] <coz_> habanany, just right click the package and hit "Extract" here [06:23] <habanany> coz_ OK [06:24] <coz_> habanany, if this is on lucid you will get errors since it doesnt have sun -java [06:24] <coz_> habanany, it will start but with many errors rather libraries ignored because they are not installed [06:24] <coz_> habanany, looks different with sun java installed by the way [06:24] <pepee> /j ubuntu+1 [06:25] <habanany> I can't extract coz_ [06:25] <jacquesdupontd> hem [06:25] <coz_> habanany, also any questions regarding this on lucid should go to the #ubuntu+1 channel which is specifically for lucid right now [06:26] <jacquesdupontd> floff_, sh configure says can't open configure [06:26] <coz_> habanany, is this gnome kde xfce? [06:26] <jacquesdupontd> configure doesn't existe [06:26] <jacquesdupontd> i tried a sudo apt-get install configure without results [06:26] <alankila> jacquesdupontd: you need to run boostrap / autogen.sh / autoreconf -ivf [06:26] <coz_> jacquesdupontd, what are you trying to configure? [06:26] <coz_> oh [06:26] <burkey> Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal server in the ubuntu terminal [06:27] <mgmuscari> can anyone tell me how to roll back my x server from 1.6 to 1.4.7? [06:27] <indus> jacquesdupontd, hey [06:27] <habanany> OK OK coz_ I'm going to #ubuntu+1 , thanks so much [06:27] <indus> mgmuscari, remove it and install the older one if available [06:27] <coz_> habanany, no problem [06:27] <mgmuscari> indus: 1.6 is the version in the karmic repositories. i'm not sure how to force installation of an older version [06:27] <indus> mgmuscari, then nothing doing [06:27] <indus> mgmuscari, why use 1.4 ? [06:28] <mgmuscari> indus: 1.6 is apparently incompatible with the latest version of fglrx as well as compiz [06:28] <mikeliss> burkey: who [06:29] <mgmuscari> indus: after sourcing 1.6, building it, and installing it, everything broke [06:29] <indus> mgmuscari, fglrx is incpmpatible with xorg 1.7 [06:29] <indus> not 1.6 [06:29] <indus> who told you [06:29] <mgmuscari> indus: nobody, but it sure isn't working well with 1.6... [06:29] <Gracenotes> why would Ubuntu 9.10 spontaneously switch to a different icon set on reboot without me changing the theme? [06:29] <mgmuscari> my first problem is that nothing i do in xorg.conf seems to have any effect [06:30] <indus> mgmuscari, xorg is not used now much [06:30] <indus> mgmuscari, whata is your problem though with fglrx [06:30] <Gracenotes> even manually changing to Human and back still leaves me with gray folder icons [06:30] <burkey> mikeliss: does who work for windows terminal server from a ubuntu workstation [06:30] <mgmuscari> ... well, karmic sure does use xorg [06:30] <mgmuscari> my problem is that i can't set rendering method or anything for fglrx [06:31] <indus> DID you try the open source drivers? [06:31] <mgmuscari> open source drivers have no 3d support for my chipset [06:31] <indus> mgmuscari, ok which chipset [06:31] <Gracenotes> maybe I should log out/in [06:31] <alankila> mgmuscari: also, fglrx has a distressing tendency to drop support for any older chipset, so what works at version x no longer works at x+1. [06:32] <mgmuscari> fglrx usually recognizes the card as hd3650, but it's a firegl v5700 mobile [06:32] <indus> alankila, fglrx or AMD? [06:32] <DaemonFC> alankila, any RadeonHD model should work [06:32] <indus> mgmuscari, oh firegl [06:32] <mgmuscari> hd3650 [06:32] <mgmuscari> for all intents and purposes [06:32] <alankila> indus: err... [06:32] <DaemonFC> it's just the old Radeon series and things like the 200m [06:32] <nimittux> Hi [06:33] <indus> alankila, are you aware that amd funds development of both fglrx and the open source driver [06:33] <nimittux> I am Newbee of Linux. [06:33] <nimittux> but know about Networking well [06:33] <alankila> indus: it still doesn't change the fact that you can have a supported card at one version and then have crippled support on the next version. [06:33] <nimittux> and yes also [06:33] <indus> alankila, its only crippled for old card [06:33] <nimittux> know about asterisk.. [06:34] <indus> alankila, and you have a diff driver so nothing is crippled [06:34] <indus> alankila, like a choice\ [06:34] <alankila> indus: let's not mince words about this. I have found personally this out the hard way that you are forced to shift to the open-source driver at some point, and when it happened to me the open-source driver really wasn't very good at driving that card. It's OK now, though. [06:34] <indus> alankila, of course, 8.04 still supports everything, [06:35] <indus> alankila, its better than ok now actually [06:35] <BlackDalek> I am getting constant random popping and crackling through laptop speakers on a HP pavilion DV9000. It continues constantly even when no sound is being played and when sound is muted. Is there a fix for this? [06:35] <StuckMojo> is there any way to get aptitude to help me install a deb that i've downloaded? [06:35] <StuckMojo> i.e. solve the missing deps for me? [06:35] <Tetikus_22_B> help me [06:35] <indus> alankila, but it will never be close to the fglrx [06:35] <diz_Child> can the ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso run on AMD64? [06:35] <indus> alankila, but 2d on fglrx sucks [06:35] <mgmuscari> sigh [06:35] <alankila> and thanks to lack of ABI stability when you update xorg you generally can no longer run the old driver. Which is a hate point for me. Stable ABI would be better, or something. [06:35] <StuckMojo> diz_Child: yes [06:35] <StuckMojo> diz_Child: but it will be 32bit [06:36] <Tetikus_22_B> i already try install fifa game on mu ubuntu with wine but still cannot be run [06:36] <diz_Child> you mean the other 32bit is not use? [06:36] <nimittux> you can try Crossover [06:36] <nimittux> for it . [06:36] <nimittux> had you tried Crossover ? [06:36] <nimittux> againts of Wine ?? [06:37] <Tetikus_22_B> i try playonlinux also [06:37] <indus> !gallium [06:37] <indus> !radeonHD [06:37] <indus> !radeon [06:37] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [06:37] <nimittux> i think it should works. [06:37] <indus> WHAT a pathetic factoid [06:37] <indus> its listing matrox ? [06:37] <diz_Child> i'm running a knoppix livecd on AMD64 now [06:38] <jacquesdupontd> hey [06:38] <indus> alankila, have oyu tried the radeon HD with similar results? [06:38] <Tetikus_22_B> Fifa 2010 pro evolution DVD [06:38] <navetz> hey guys, i currently have a server that is running fairly slow. How do I find out what is causing it to bog down? I want to know if its the internet connection, or perhaps enough ram, or not enough processing power. [06:38] <navetz> it is using ubuntu server edition [06:38] <indus> alankila, drop in #radeonHD sometime [06:39] <jacquesdupontd> alankila, in fact the x11 server havn't been configured/built with xinerama wich cause conflict with nvidia priority driver, a solution seems to be to recompile or add xinerama to x11xorgserver that's why i'm asking how [06:39] <Tetikus_22_B> i need instruction how to install Fifa 2010 pro evolution DVD [06:39] <alankila> indus: as I said, my problem has been fixed by improvements in radeon driver. I used radeonhd at first, but it sucked for that hardware, visual glitches and low performance [06:39] <Tetikus_22_B> 3 times i install but result fail [06:40] <alankila> for the record, I'm perfectly happy about the ATI X1250 (RS500) support provided by the open-source driver. I only wish I could have used fglrx longer because it worked fine until it suddenly refused to work with RS500 at all. [06:40] <Tetikus_22_B> what [06:40] <alankila> And I wish I had never touched radeonhd because it is apparently bad unless you have something actually designated as "HD". Maybe. === PirateGoose is now known as goose [06:41] <Tetikus_22_B> but my laptop can read 3D game before i change to ubuntu 9.10 [06:42] <indus> alankila, yeah its for the HD ones, and the x1200 was the cut off really [06:43] <Tetikus_22_B> hello [06:43] <sirconis> Can I solicit some help please? I'm trying to install ubuntu on a dedicated partition. It gets 26% of the way and says it failed to read data from the disk. I've tried burning at a much slower speed, I've redownloaded the image and burned again, and I've never had a problem w/ this DVD drive before. Is there another way? Can I place the image on USB flash memory? [06:43] <Joker_-_> My sound stops working after a few minutes. Should I call it a hardware problem? [06:43] <indus> but we are spoilt for choice with 8.04 which does support ,and i hope something significant with 10.04 [06:43] <indus> so the open drivers currently being really nice [06:43] <Joker_-_> It's an onboard sound-card, never tested it and I have several pci sound cards lying around... [06:43] <indus> very impressive indeed [06:44] <alankila> Now if only you had open drivers from day one, rather than waiting 1-2 years... [06:44] <indus> its just a matter of time before nvidia drops support so then blame both companiess? [06:44] <Joker_-_> sirconis: you can install from several other media, including the very same hard drive [06:44] <indus> just good fortune they support older cards [06:45] <indus> or make older drivers work with newer xorg rather [06:45] <sirconis> Joker_-_ , what do I need to do to use the image on my HD as it is now and install to a seperate partition? [06:45] <indus> ill probably try nexuiz today with the open drivers tonight [06:45] <alankila> indus: I have never had to regret going with nvidia, but I've always regreted going with ATI. That's a decade of experience, so until nvidia does something really ugly, they have my full support and endorsement. [06:46] <Tetikus_22_B> heloo [06:46] <alankila> I think even today I could use the nvidia legacy drivers against ubuntu 9.10 to run desktop with geforce4 or something. [06:46] <indus> alankila, yes i know, but i recently moved to ATI months before, so the experience is pleasant [06:46] <sirconis> The file system of the partition has been created successfully, as well as the Swap. [06:46] <Joker_-_> sirconis: I'm looking for the name of the app, it's made for flashdrives, but it works for harddrives aswell [06:46] <indus> alankila, a decade is long time indeed [06:46] <sirconis> Thank you [06:46] <sirconis> I've burned through 5 DVDs trying to get this to work :( [06:46] <indus> nvm off topic [06:47] <ninjaskkittle> hmm [06:47] <Joker_-_> sirconis: I really feel retarded not remembering this name... [06:47] <Joker_-_> sirconis: unetbootin [06:47] <theadmin> how do i get rid of "Battery may be old or broken"? [06:47] <Joker_-_> or something like that [06:47] <indus> alankila, i have poor window movements with fglrx, can it be cured? [06:47] <sirconis> ^_^ thanks. googling it now [06:47] <Joker_-_> sir http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [06:47] <Joker_-_> sirconis: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [06:47] <indus> heard its a known issue [06:48] <alankila> indus: *shrug* [06:48] <Joker_-_> sirconis: works in windows and linux [06:48] <nixpet> anyone know how to get universal applets? ubuntu 9.10 here [06:48] <abx> I need help regarding the following situation: I got the Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD and decided to give it a try on my Toshiba Satellite A105 laptop. Everything worked perfectly fine. I removed my cd, and restarted to access Windows XP (service pack 3). However, my Toshiba sound stopped working. Any suggestions? [06:48] <ninjaskkittle> unetbootin has saved me many of times [06:48] <alankila> I have no fglrx-capable systems, so I'm not likely to know. [06:48] <syrius> how do I enabled gobuntu? [06:48] <anto9us> sirconis: unetbootin will help you create a bootable memory stick but check you have enough memory to run the livecd installer. You might need the alternative install image. [06:48] <theadmin> nixpet: "Universal applets"? [06:48] <indus> alankila, initially i was not keen to use the radeon driver, but this issue made my a little partial [06:48] <nixpet> theadmin: yeap [06:48] <Joker_-_> anto9us: he can do it from hard drive, no need for flashdrive [06:48] <sirconis> I'll try it using the HDD first, and hope that works [06:48] <theadmin> nixpet: Elaborate. What do you mean? [06:49] <Joker_-_> sirconis: just make a partition at the end of your drive, something like 900mb [06:49] <nixpet> thadmin: is universal applets a screenlets type package? i just read random stuff online and am trying to get in on my ubuntu machine [06:49] <BlackDalek> where can I find information about audio problems with HP DV9000? I can't find diddly squat on forums or google :( [06:50] <indus> BlackDalek, what audio problems [06:50] <theadmin> nixpet: Hm... I actually never heard of that. [06:50] <Joker_-_> sirconis: use gparted, it's quite easy. I don't know if it's well documented, but I think ext3 partition would be just perfect. [06:50] <indus> alankila, http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=14591 [06:50] <BlackDalek> indus, this pretty much sums it up - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8844107#post8844107 [06:51] <kyubutsu> is there a way to join/merge two terminals into one [06:51] <Sakara> I would like to use an ubuntu machine to serve media (video, music, photos) to other computers around my house (linux windows workstations and a ps3)? Does anyone know of the easiest best way to accomplish this? [06:51] <theadmin> Can Ubuntu install on a FAT/NTFS/FAT32 partition? [06:51] <Joker_-_> sirconis: and by the way, use the "disk image" rather than "distribution" option, as it's outdated. [06:51] <sirconis> Joker_-_ : I've got 38gb formatted as ext3 for ubuntu, and 2gb for swap [06:51] <Joker_-_> theadmin: yes, it can install within windows if you like. [06:52] <sirconis> k [06:52] <BlackDalek> indus, the popping is random and constant and muting the volume won't even stop it. [06:52] <theadmin> Joker_-_: I mean normal install. Not WUBI. [06:52] <syrius> does gobuntu use linux libre kernel? [06:52] <kyubutsu> theadmin: why would you want to even try that.. [06:52] <sirconis> Joker_-_ : will a 1gb usb stick be enough? It only has to hold the 700 MB image right? [06:52] <theadmin> kyubutsu: My father asked that :D I? I don't want that. [06:52] <indus> theadmin, it wont install [06:53] <alankila> indus: I saw that. Abysmal performance, no difference between GPUs, either. That's strange. If I would have to guess it's doing 90 % CPU-based software rendering in the driver. :p [06:53] <Joker_-_> theadmin: I don't see why you would do that, and I'm not absolutely certain it would. My very wild guess would be that you would need to recompile a kernel (I think fat support is a module by default) [06:53] <indus> theadmin, sorry with wubi yes [06:53] <Joker_-_> sirconis: it should [06:53] <nixpet> its ok im just going to use google gadgets [06:53] <alankila> or well, very little difference. There's some difference, just nowhere near expected amount. [06:53] <indus> alankila, its early 3d obviously :) [06:53] <theadmin> indus: Okay, hm, i see. Well, not important, i'm with ext4, it's fast as lightning. [06:53] <nixpet> screenlets was nice but stuff didnt load right on startup [06:54] <theadmin> ...if you can measure lightning speed in megabits, that is [06:54] <indus> theadmin, in any case, it reformats to ext 3 [06:54] <Joker_-_> theadmin: I just googled and apparently, it works fine [06:54] <indus> theadmin, for example, in live cd automatic install , it installs ubuntu side by side by resizing windows partition and putting ubuntu, but it will always be ext3 [06:54] <wolter> do any of you use the ubuntu-boot pack? [06:55] <theadmin> indus: Meh, dunno, i always used "Specify partitions manually (advanced)" [06:55] <indus> theadmin, ok me too :) but then why you ask [06:55] <theadmin> indus: Said a few messages ago, my father wants to know zat :D No idea why though [06:56] <Joker_-_> heh I don't think my father knows what is linux. [06:56] <indus> BlackDalek, there is a very good thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=431815 read all of it [06:56] <Joker_-_> but thats totally off topic [06:56] <wolter> how is ubuntu-boot package dangerous? [06:56] <kyubutsu> wubi is the closest answer to 'installing ubuntu on a fat partition' .. [06:56] <theadmin> Actually, is there a way to install Ubuntu before window$, not after it? [06:56] <nixpet> linux is a very lovable thing [06:56] <BlackDalek> indus, thanks. [06:57] <theadmin> ...oh wait, there is something on that on help.ubuntu.com [06:57] <theadmin> Nevermind [06:57] <indus> BlackDalek, also, i suggest in the very very end if all fails, remove pulse ,and if that fails install oss 4 from the website [06:57] <Joker_-_> gnight all. [06:57] <indus> BlackDalek, but that thread seems a good place to start for all dv 9000 stuff :) [06:57] <indus> Joker_-_, g night [06:58] <kyubutsu> is there any way to join/merge two terminal windows into one ? [06:58] <saartje> gdfgfthjk'; [06:58] <BlackDalek> indus, this also sounds promising... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314834 [06:58] <saartje> hello [06:58] <floff_> hi there [06:59] <lakshmi> Can I get Google chrome/chromium for Ubuntu? [06:59] <indus> BlackDalek, aah superb [06:59] <indus> BlackDalek, why didnt you search in googlebefore :) [06:59] <genii> !chrome [07:00] <BlackDalek> indus, apparently google didn't like the search terms I used... [07:00] <indus> BlackDalek, see if that worked? iam curious [07:00] <kyubutsu> lakshmi: you need to add the chromium PPA to your sources first [07:00] <indus> lakshmi, www.google.com/chrome [07:00] <kemsiro> @lakshmi: eaiser way could be through Ubuntu Tweak [07:00] <lakshmi> thanks guys! [07:00] <kyubutsu> chromium is the open source version of chrome tho.. [07:00] <lostinspace_46> How is it that, when booted, a 700MB ubuntu CD disk contains an O/S that is 3GB on the HDD? [07:01] <alankila> lostinspace_46: it's called compression. [07:01] <indus> use PPA's at yourown risk, [07:02] <indus> why arent the ops not taking a stand on this] [07:02] <alankila> lostinspace_46: plus there's some overhead in the files when they are stored on the disk, the file may be very small but its metadata still takes some space. [07:02] <indus> randomly recommending PPA's is a bad idea for new users [07:02] <indus> or old [07:02] <scp1> indeed [07:02] <kyubutsu> that wasnt random.. its the only way to install chromium afaik .. and he asked [07:03] <DavidSchles> question for anyone: i recently just now installed the recomended updates for firefox, and it now segfaults [07:03] <DavidSchles> and i can't use apt-get [07:03] <wolter> will preload show up as a process when I run it? [07:03] <DavidSchles> something with post-fix [07:04] <Explore1> can i use cheese on ubuntu for recording video and audio? [07:04] <wolter> Explore1, yes [07:04] <Explore1> how? [07:04] <wolter> thats what you would use, in fact [07:04] <kemsiro> EXplore1: yup [07:04] <LOLsaurusRex> I just installed a rather large number of updates in Karmic Koala. Some of the updates I've never heard of before, which included something called "alien" and "postfix" Were these official updates, or did someone just installed some crap in my computer? [07:04] <wolter> Explore1, are you running cheese? [07:04] <Explore1> no [07:04] <DavidSchles> anyone can help? [07:04] <wolter> LOLsaurusRex, its official [07:04] <lostinspace_46> alankila, I understand that. Perhaps I misphrased the question. How do the files run if they are compressed? Don't they need to be unpacked to run? [07:05] <DavidSchles> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable [07:05] <wolter> LOLsaurusRex, however, you should only worry about people installing stuff to your system if you have authorized 3rd party ppas [07:05] <wolter> Explore1, run it [07:05] <wolter> Explore1, you'll see how to record a video when you do [07:05] <sirconis> Joker_-_ , It didn't work. It transferred the image to the usb drive, but my system never recognized it during boot, and I made sure usb was top in the order even. [07:05] <Explore1> ya i saw video [07:05] <Explore1> does it do audio too? [07:05] <Explore1> any idea what does cheese use internally? === orion_ is now known as Guest99615 [07:06] <sirconis> Joker_-_ , Now I'm trying the HDD method, but the partition I just made doesn't show up unless I select the box "show all drives (use with care)" and choose usb stick (not hard drive) even though it's a hard drive. [07:06] <LOLsaurusRex> thanks wolter. I just wanted to verify this large number of updates was in fact official. [07:06] * DavidSchles needs someones help [07:06] <wolter> LOLsaurusRex, in fact I am also updating right now, and thats why they sounded familiar to me haha [07:06] <wolter> but np [07:06] <Explore1> does it do audio too?any idea what does cheese use internally? [07:06] <Callum__> WTF, my Firefox window just quit for absolutely no reason whatsoever =P [07:06] <alankila> lostinspace_46: there's on-the-fly decompression on the CD, called squashfs. I imagine they use that. [07:07] <wolter> DavidSchles, try running [$ sudo killall apt-get] [07:07] <scp1> callum__, that's normal [07:07] <wolter> Explore1, yes it records audio too... [07:07] <alankila> lostinspace_46: my original impression of your question was "how does a 700 MB CD, when installed on harddrive, take 3 GB" [07:07] <DavidSchles> wolter: no process found [07:07] <wolter> Explore1, it uses gstreamer, but remain on topic [07:08] <Callum__> then again, I am taxing my PC like mad compiling a GNU toolchain [07:08] <alankila> I confess I do not 100 % grok the techniques used on the live cd. [07:08] <wolter> DavidSchles, look up about removing locks on files [07:08] <wolter> I don't remember how to do it [07:08] <LOLsaurusRex> does anyone know when firefox 3.6 will be available from the official repos? [07:08] <DavidSchles> wolter: woudl this also cause firefox to segfault? [07:08] <wolter> LOLsaurusRex, no, but maybe you can look for a ppa at launchpad, thats what you generally do when you want updates for a specific package as they are released [07:09] <wolter> DavidSchles, I do not know [07:09] <Explore1> wolter: i dint see any audio UI in cheese gui? [07:09] <DavidSchles> http://dsfdsf32.pastebin.com/d1f7cb9d4 - if anyone knows about this [07:09] <wolter> Explore1 would you just try to record a video? [07:10] <sirconis> I told it to extract to my new partition even though it thinks it's a usb drive for some dumb reason. rebooting to give it a shot. [07:10] <Explore1> wolter: ii tried [07:10] <Explore1> video is fine..but cant see any audio [07:10] <wolter> Explore1, can you hear any audio? [07:10] <lostinspace_46> Alamma, Hmm..assuming I am running a live DVD -RW I still can't mod it by importing files from the HDD, because it's an ISO, correct? [07:10] <wolter> heh [07:11] <Explore1> no.. [07:11] <wolter> lostinspace_46, no, because you have to burn them to it [07:11] <Explore1> ok, problem is with my laptop may be [07:11] <wolter> Explore1, maybe [07:11] <wolter> Explore1, have you tried recording with gnome-sound-recorder? [07:12] <scp1> explore1, what sound system are you using? [07:12] <wolter> Explore1, or running gstreamer-properties [07:12] <Explore1> no [07:12] <Explore1> alsamixr [07:12] <wolter> Explore1, do so [07:12] <scp1> isn't there alsarecord or something? [07:12] <Explore1> gnome-properties [07:12] <Explore1> bash: gnome-properties: command not found [07:12] <wolter> Explore1, test sound input, and see if you can listen to any echo [07:13] <wolter> "Explore1, or running gstreamer-properties" [07:13] <alankila> lostinspace_46: but you can usually buy an USB key & install linux on that. [07:13] <lostinspace_46> wolter, Right, but I can mod the ISO prior to burning, and that is really what I need to do [07:13] <BlackDalek> indus, seems to have worked.. been about 5 minutes and I haven't heard any popping [07:13] <floff_> no [07:13] <alankila> Some 8 GB key with 10 - 20 MB/s read-write rate is not that expensive [07:13] <wolter> lostinspace_46, oh.. yes you can [07:13] <Eternal_2009> Hello, I am having a little bug problem with Network Manager. I am using a dlink wireless router with Dlink pci card and my network is dropping out every 5-10 mins for 20-30 seconds is there anything i can do? [07:13] <wolter> lostinspace_46, you can extract it, modify it, remake the ISO, and burn [07:14] <alankila> Eternal_2009: I have seen that issue. I had DWA-556 against DIR-655 [07:14] <Explore1> i can hear sound in gstreamer-properties [07:14] <alankila> Eternal_2009: I've seen it on several cards on Linux, resulting me to conclude that Linux wireless is almost useless. But then again, not all systems have shown this issue. [07:14] <Eternal_2009> alankila: I have it working on windows and fedora OS's But ubuntu is not working right [07:14] <lorenzosu> Hi. Since upgrading to 9.10 I can't get the pc internal speaker to emit sound on an HP desktop. In ubuntu 9.04 there was a specific slider in the mixer (somthing like 'front' and 'back'). Now I can only get sound through headphones. [07:15] <alankila> Eternal_2009: I installed karmix-modules-backports or some similarly named package and rebooted. That fixed it for me, I was using ath9k [07:15] <wolter> Explore1, you can hear echo of yourself when you try to test default input? [07:15] <Explore1> what else can i check? [07:15] <Explore1> yes [07:15] <alankila> apparently the driver ubuntu chose to package me was made of barbed wire and bubble gum [07:15] <wolter> Explore1, try the gnome sound recorder [07:15] <Explore1> default input? [07:15] <Explore1> no [07:15] <alankila> or the main driver, anyway [07:15] <scp1> hah [07:15] <Explore1> command? [07:15] <lostinspace_46> My issue...to have internet I have to mod files, but can,t find them on the ISO, initramfs for instance [07:15] <wolter> Explore1, yes, default input. Command for gnome sound recorder is gnome-sound-recorder [07:15] <Explore1> i can hear the sound wave signal sound that's all.. [07:15] <wolter> generally all gnome executable names follow that structure [07:15] <Eternal_2009> Ok alankila I'll check it out. [07:16] <wolter> Explore1, I am talking about default input [07:16] <Explore1> ya i can record [07:16] <wolter> Explore1, then your mic is working alright [07:16] <wolter> Explore1, sso should cheese [07:16] <tolarn> Can someone help me setup Remote desktop from Ubuntu to windows 7 machine. [07:17] <wolter> Explore1, please go to #cheese@irc.gnome.org [07:17] <wolter> and ask there, this is offtopic here [07:17] <wolter> brb [07:17] <sirconis> Joker_-_ or anyone else that can help: I'm out of ideas. I can find no way to install ubuntu successfully. The CD doesn't work, it doesn't recognize there being anything on my usb stick to boot from when I try that route, unetbootin doesn't recognize the partition I made on my HDD for extracting the image file to, and treating that partition as usb stick (it picks it up that way) didn't work either. Any ideas? Someone mentioned another prog [07:17] <bridgeguy> Hey, does anyone know any open source web-based games? [07:17] <alankila> lostinspace_46: seriously, it ought to be much easier to do the usb key install and modify that -- no special work needed -- is there some reason why you prefer to change the ISO rather? [07:18] <floff_> bridgeguy: web based as in... flash? :/ [07:18] <bridgeguy> I'm looking for something with some interaction, I found several PHP based text-games or fantasy games, but something with more graphics would be nice [07:18] <lostinspace_46> Specifically, I need to blacklist 2 files, use my Win wlan drivers, install ndisgtk, and update initramfs. [07:18] <bridgeguy> floff_: no, trying to avoid flash [07:18] <Eternal_2009> alankila: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic Sound familiar ? [07:18] <floff_> bridgeguy: good :) [07:19] <tolarn> sirconis why doesnt the cd work? [07:19] <floff_> bridgeguy: search for 'reverse' [07:19] <floff_> pretty fun game [07:19] <lostinspace_46> alankila, And I need to do that prior to burning [07:19] <floff_> implemented it myself in perl, and I know there's a web-based variant [07:19] <sirconis> tolarn , it gets to 26% and says it can't read the data. I've burned through 5 DVDs writing at different speeds and even re-downloaded the image. [07:19] <sirconis> I've never had a problem w/ the drive either. [07:19] <bridgeguy> floff_: Hmmm, anything more graphics intense? [07:20] <floff_> bridgeguy: no idea... [07:20] <bridgeguy> Basically I'm looking for something as close to the onlive service as possible [07:20] <tolarn> no problems with the drive so what software are you using? [07:21] <kyubutsu> sirconis: checked the md5 hash? [07:21] <bridgeguy> onlive is that new online game service in private beta, it streams streams the game video to a client and gets back the peripheral input [07:21] <Eternal_2009> bridgeguy: You looking to play or a script to use? [07:21] <terminhell> anyone know how to fix the pidgin notify icons? [07:21] <bridgeguy> Eternal_2009: I would like to test how well different types of web based applications behave under specific network conditions [07:21] <sirconis> kyubutsu , I'm assuming you are referring to a type of file used to verify that everything is there, but I don't know how to do that. [07:22] <kyubutsu> !md5 | sirconis [07:22] <ubottu> sirconis: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [07:22] <lorenzosu> Ok... I seemed to have fixed it installing gnome alsa mixer [07:22] <bridgeguy> Eternal_2009: I have client/server setup and I can emulate different network conditions between the two [07:22] <tolarn> He downloaded the image twice could it be his software that hes using to burn the image is not working properly? [07:22] <bridgeguy> Eternal_2009: The goal is to have different server-side, preferably web based apps running on the server and testing how they work on the client under different network conditions [07:22] <sirconis> tolarn I'm using magic ISO [07:23] <bridgeguy> Eternal_2009: I have Etherpad, HTML5 video, etc but I'm missing something with high interaction such as a video game [07:23] <sirconis> I've never had a probelm w/ the software before, but this is the first time I'm using it on Vista. It's always been XP before [07:24] <BlackDalek> ok - I got a new problem now with another computer.... faxing - Am I wasting my time trying to get a conexant internal modem to work as a regular dial-up fax? Or should I just invest in a "proper" external hardware modem? [07:24] <nomad77> sirconis: try tao-mode and lowest speed burning possible [07:24] <bridgeguy> You guys know of a games oriented IRC channel? [07:24] <tolarn> sirconis try using http://infrarecorder.org/ [07:24] <Explore1> my sound works, cant hear any sound in cheese? [07:25] <Explore1> what is the best tool to go through bigger codes in ubuntu? [07:25] <sirconis> nomad77 , tolarn , checking the md5 first, then I'll take a look at those. === ae86-drifter1 is now known as ae86-drifter [07:25] <tolarn> Any Remote desktop setup guru's available. Can't seem to connect ubuntu to windows 7. [07:25] <terminhell> is it possible to fix gnome's glitch with pidgins notify icons not being transparent? [07:26] <ae86-drifter> terminhell, use a different gnome/pidgin version. [07:27] <ubuntu> jkljkljk [07:27] <Roxyhart0> hi guys i got saba 3.4.5 and i want to install on ubuntu 9.10 somebody know how to do that? [07:27] <ae86-drifter> whats a good lightweight GIMP alternative [07:27] <sirconis> running winMd5Sum where to I get the md5 to compare it to? [07:27] <ae86-drifter> !best image [07:28] <Roxyhart0> my file is .tar and i need to install that but i dont know how to do? somebody knows? [07:28] <ae86-drifter> sirconis, the md5 must be generated [07:28] <sirconis> I'm guessing it was. I got this: 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906 [07:28] <ae86-drifter> !tar | Roxyhart0 [07:28] <ubottu> Roxyhart0: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression [07:28] <sirconis> there is nothing in the "comprae" box though to compare it to. [07:29] <indus> sirconis, compare it with the md5 from the iso on the website [07:29] <terminhell> ae86-drifter: hmm [07:29] <Roxyhart0> yes but they come tih samba files, what i need to do to install this samba verison in my ubuntu [07:29] <ae86-drifter> sirconis, the whole point of it is to actually have a sum to compare in the first place [07:30] <alankila> Roxyhart0: is there a reason why the ubuntu's prepackaged samba binaries aren't OK for you? [07:30] <mahiti-irc> hello when is ubuntu 10.10 releasing? [07:30] <Roxyhart0> i did tar but i need install samba version 3.4.5 in my ubuntu 9.10 which come with samba 3.4.0 [07:30] <sirconis> ae86-drifter yes, I was just looking for the has page, found it. [07:30] <alankila> mahiti-irc: I'd imagine on the 10th month of 2010? Aren't you more interested in the 10.04 anyway? [07:30] <wolter> is it decent to get 22s boot time until login screen [07:30] <Roxyhart0> no have bugs [07:30] <wolter> ? [07:31] <alankila> wolter: similar to mine. [07:31] <Roxyhart0> version 3.4.0 have bugs, 9.4.1 solve it [07:31] <Roxyhart0> 3.4.1* [07:31] <sirconis> the md5 hashes are the same. [07:31] <casperlet> Help plz. it's Ubuntu 9.10(desktop). the mouse works abnormally. [07:31] <wolter> alankila, how much does it take after you login until desktop is usable? [07:31] <mahiti-irc> alankila, oh ya man am really waiting for 10.04 [07:31] <mahiti-irc> the Lucid Lynx [07:32] <alankila> wolter: another 20 seconds, maybe, maybe less. [07:32] <wolter> alankila, [07:32] <wolter> wow [07:32] <wolter> alankila, do you have a bootchard image? [07:32] <alankila> wolter: no. I can't generate one any more either, I have switched to Evil Empire Operating System on this box [07:32] <Explore1> wolter: are you sure that cheese has audio support? can you check once? bcz i dont really see anything like audio possibility.. [07:33] <wolter> Explore1, it has.... [07:33] <sirconis> tolarn , ae86-drifter , indus , the hashes are the same. So try one of those other .iso recorders you mentioned then? [07:33] <wolter> Explore1, as in #cheese channel [07:33] <wolter> !offtopic | Explore1 [07:33] <ubottu> Explore1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [07:33] <indus> sirconis, sorry, but i didnt read what the problem you have, can you restate it [07:33] <tolarn> sirconis i would. I always had problems with magic iso [07:33] <Roxyhart0> how i can create a installation package from a tar file? [07:33] <alankila> wolter: I never paid 100 % attention to how long it takes until GNOME is usable. I know the desktop appears and you'd start launching apps and it'll take a while before they appear, I can't hear the disk drives because modern drives are silent... so 20s is estimate [07:33] <casperlet> Help plz. it's Ubuntu 9.10(desktop). the mouse works abnormally. if i want click something, i must hold the left key 2 seconds, then release it. [07:33] <sirconis> k. here we go disc #6 :( [07:34] <wolter> oh [07:34] <wolter> alankila, i mean until the icons appear in your desktop [07:34] <alankila> wolter: well, considerably less, that'd be in the order of 10 seconds maybe. [07:34] <ae86-drifter> whats the name of that best bot channel [07:34] <alankila> After hitting enter to login prompt's password prompt. [07:34] <wolter> alankila, oh my god.. whats that os again? [07:35] <wolter> alankila, or are you optimizing login in some way? [07:35] <alankila> I heard compiz churns for some >5 seconds on pure CPU when it starts, so major part of delay comes there, apparently. Also I got a large background, which certainly took several seconds of pure processing. [07:35] <tolarn> sirconis no cds? [07:35] <tolarn> or only dvds [07:35] <alankila> wolter: I have switched to windows 7 on my desktop. And it's too late to ask, but I never did anything special. [07:35] <sirconis> tolarn I'm out of CDs, so yes only DVDs [07:36] <wolter> alankila, oh [07:36] <ae86-drifter> alankila, are you using a 486? [07:36] <wolter> alankila, yeah, windows 7 is booting quite fast [07:36] <sirconis> tolarn I'm guessing this venture is costing me about .50c a pop. maybe less. [07:36] <sirconis> lol [07:36] <ace__> Hello. I want a command to be run at 8:45am (monday-friday) and another command at 8pm (monday-friday). I set crontab to do it. But can someone tell me if this is correct ---> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=31704 [07:36] <alankila> ae86-drifter: someone whose job it is to optimize compiz told me that it takes like 5 seconds when it starts, so I just relayed that [07:36] <ae86-drifter> !cron | ace__ [07:36] <ubottu> ace__: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm [07:37] <alankila> ae86-drifter: I haven't measured it for *my* system. And I have a 2560x1600 display, and if you put a large enough jpeg to not look crappy on that, it will take some time to display. [07:37] <ace__> ae86-drifter: I was looking for a yes/no [07:37] <tolarn> eww [07:37] <ae86-drifter> alankila, i'm sure that would depend on system performance [07:37] <tolarn> sirconis if that doesnt work your next option would be https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ [07:38] <ae86-drifter> ace__, sorry im not that good at bash scripting [07:38] <alankila> ae86-drifter: yes, of course. But there are mitigating factors like compiz needing to load something from disk and all rotating platter drives are about equally fast, give or take a factor of 2 [07:38] <sirconis> tolarn , I'm burning at the lowest speed. I'm not taking any chances at this point. In InfraRecorder (I think that's the one you suggested) what write method do you suggeest? [07:39] <alankila> so even if it's fast, it's probably bounded from one end by the size of executable and how scattered around the filesystem its parts are. That's just an example, though, I hate that I named "compiz" for it. It's just that there's more than CPU to it [07:39] <sirconis> SAO / TAO , etc. [07:39] <tolarn> whatever default its setup to. Thats all I did was default settings [07:39] <mehedi34> Has there any off line English-English dictionary for ubuntu? [07:39] <ae86-drifter> alankila, yeah, i personally don't use compiz as i like my resources [07:39] <sirconis> kk [07:40] <ae86-drifter> alankila, i use xfce, instead of gnome and i have a blank background, the desktop is usable as soon as it apears [07:40] * alankila 's linux ran on a nice RAID-1 setup. I can't tolerate single-drive systems for being TOO SLOW :) [07:40] <alankila> I should get SSD one of these days, though. [07:40] <mehedi34> Has there any off line English-English dictionary for ubuntu? [07:41] <ae86-drifter> alankila, wait a year or so for SSDs i think [07:41] <alankila> ae86-drifter: yeah, all that sort of stuff surely helps. I also used to use a single-color background on weaker systems, to save on Xorg size & startup time [07:42] <mehedi34> ! [07:42] <RPG-Master> GAH! Why does it take soooo long for buttons to respond when I click on them? :( [07:42] <alankila> at least at one point nautilus used to cache some private pixmap copy of the entire background and that took double the RAM it strictly speaking needed to ... not sure if it does it anymore [07:42] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, how are we supposed to know with such little info [07:42] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo [07:42] <sirconis> alright, it's done burning. Here we go again. :P wish me luck [07:42] <tolarn> Good luck man. Let me give you my email [07:43] <mehedi34> ! [07:43] <sirconis> k [07:43] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: I'm not sure where to start.... what info do I need to provide? [07:43] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, which buttons are you talking about? what DE, PC specs, what apps are you running etc. [07:44] <ActionParsnip> !details | rpg-master [07:44] <ubottu> rpg-master: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [07:44] <Mehedi_Simon> Has there any off line English-English dictionary for ubuntu? [07:45] <ae86-drifter> you cant just say "Why does it take soooo long for buttons to respond" and expect us to know what your'e talkin bout [07:45] <RPG-Master> It's like this: I click a button for the first time in several minutes, it animates like it's going down, then the app "grays out", and then it actually reacts. For several minutes after that all the buttons in that app will work just fine. [07:45] <RPG-Master> then it will start all over again :/ [07:45] <lostinspace_46> If I am running an ubuntu live CD, how much control do I have over my O/S? [07:46] <Primer3> The GUI is getting locked [07:46] <kemsiro> Mehedi_Simon, try stardict [07:46] <alankila> RPG-Master: it sounds like the application has had its file cache reduced to next to nothing, or it has been swapped out, to me. [07:46] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: if you disable effects is it ok? [07:46] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Let me try that [07:46] <indus> ActionParsnip, whats up . [07:46] <Mehedi_Simon> how i can install it? [07:46] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, GNOME? standard ubuntu install? and is this for every single app? what are the specs of your PC? [07:46] <tolarn> lostinspace_46 I belive thats just setup as a demo. Not to do anything special. [07:46] <alankila> RPG-Master: in other words, it smells like something is consuming a lot of resources periodically on your systems, and your apps stall because crucial memory pages are not available to them. [07:46] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: as much as an installed system except you can't reboot to a different kernel [07:47] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, how did you partition and install ubuntu? [07:47] <Primer3> Does anyone know if its possible to use a Ubuntu Server to extend the range of a wireless network if the server has a wireless card? [07:47] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: Sorry, Yes, 9.10 on a laptop with 2.4ghz Turon and 128mb of shared graphics [07:47] <RPG-Master> nvidea, too [07:47] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, Could I go online from the O/S? [07:47] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: Full hard drive [07:47] <tolarn> Primer3 I think thats a power hack on the card. [07:47] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: you will be constrained by ram amount, otherwise it will run like an installed system [07:47] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, did you run through the installation with default configuration? [07:48] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: yep [07:48] <tolarn> primer3 you boost the power the transmitter pretty much [07:48] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: provided you can setup you networking (or if its auto-detected) then yes [07:48] <RPG-Master> alankila: how can I tell? [07:49] <alankila> RPG-Master: it's somewhat matter of expertise. Linux has a program called "free". It can be run in a terminal and it tells vital system statistics. [07:49] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: press alt+f2, type: metacity --replace ,then click ok [07:49] <roccity_> Primer3, you can try a stronger antenna [07:49] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, type top and press enter as well [07:49] <RPG-Master> :O I have 68% of my ram being used as cache [07:49] <nmvictor> which package provides javac in ubuntu? [07:49] <brokenwall> anyone able to help me with my stupid Intel Wifi 5100 and DHCP issues [07:50] <alankila> RPG-Master: if you have large number of swap pages in use (last line, second value), that indicates something is writing to swap a lot. Similarly, if the cached value is very low -- it's usually 100-200 MB, I bet -- then that could also be evidence of some kind of memory pressure. [07:50] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, how much RAM and swap space? [07:50] <roccity_> whats wrong brokenwall [07:50] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: still no good huh [07:50] <brokenwall> nope Action [07:50] <brokenwall> i got the wired working [07:50] <brokenwall> but the DHCP is flakey at best [07:50] <nmvictor> which package provides javac in ubuntu? [07:50] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: I /think/ like 8 or 10gigs [07:50] <wolter> hi, does anybody use preload? In that case, does it create a process named preload or what? [07:50] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: i'd use ndisgtk til you get righted [07:50] <alankila> nmvictor: sun-java6-jdk [07:50] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: And 3gigs of RAM [07:51] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, you can type "top" in a terminal and see what prcess is hogging your resources [07:51] <ActionParsnip> Wolter: I use it but I'm not home to run ps. Sorry [07:51] <wolter> thanks ActionParsnip [07:51] <alankila> RPG-Master: then it should not be a memory issue, because 3 GB is very difficult to exhaust in normal circumstances... [07:51] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, then type "sudo kill (process id here)" [07:51] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, Not sure how to phrase this. How do I get control of the O/S? For instance, just opening folders I get a ton of "no permissions" messages. [07:51] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: OK, looking at "top"... which column am I looking at? [07:52] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, which is using most RAM and CPU?? [07:52] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: are they on an internal drive or part of the ubuntu OS? [07:52] <brokenwall> ok well i got the wireless finding networks and the wired works but DHCP never works on the wifi and sometimes works on the wired [07:52] <RPG-Master> ae86-drifter: XORG [07:52] <roccity_> brokenwall, what about assigning dns to the wireless and the wired [07:52] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga [07:53] <ae86-drifter> RPG-Master, maybe your graphics card driver is playing up, you could try using a different version of it, xorg, and then try a new kernel [07:53] <roccity_> brokenwall, and a ip [07:53] <Awesome3000> lostinspace_46: it is probally your user group [07:53] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, My home folder is one I believe [07:53] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2) [07:54] * Hannibal is away: I'm busy [07:54] <crazycool> I have changed /etc/init/gdm.conf file. Will it be replaced on the next update system? [07:54] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: you can add the nvidia ppa and install a newer driver. [07:54] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, Don't really understand your question [07:54] <RPG-Master> And XORG is using "7 cpu and 3.4 mem" [07:54] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: ok is it the home in the liveCD or home on an internal drive [07:54] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: I'll try that [07:54] <brokenwall> roccity_: i am on the wired right now via static ip [07:55] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, Ahh home on internal drive [07:55] <alankila> RPG-Master: is that from the % column, like using 3.4 % of memory? [07:55] <roccity_> brokenwall, can you use that same ip for the wireless and then at least see if you can ping the router? [07:55] <RPG-Master> alankila: Yes [07:55] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: the /home folder on the live cd iis on the ram drive and will be accessible by your user. The home on the internel drive is owned by a different user [07:55] <roccity_> brokenwall, or one in that range [07:55] <alankila> then it is OK. I think. [07:56] <brokenwall> ok brb [07:56] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: you can get around it with: gksudo nautilus [07:56] <dug> I have a problem with ubuntu 9.10 where my system isnt running init scripts, my run level is "N 2" but no start up scripts start, sysv-rc-conf shows all the services set to run on level 2, update-rc.d show it set too [07:56] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, I mispoke.../home/daniel [07:56] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace: the live cd username is "ubuntu" so unless the username you use on the installed system is that you will be denied access [07:57] <RPG-Master> should I use this PPA? https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates [07:57] <roccity_> brb [07:57] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_42: so you can use gksudo to run nautilus with elevated access and the permissions won't apply ;) [07:58] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: in a websearch engine search for: nvidia ppa [07:58] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: I think its called nvidia-vpau or somesuch [07:59] <thiefy> is somesuch a real word? [07:59] <ActionParsnip> Rpgmaster: you can install the 195 driver from that if you wish or try a slightly older one to see which gives you a good display [07:59] <broken_> ok im on the wireless with a static IP [08:00] <ActionParsnip> Thiefy: I think its a coloquialism (sp). Not sure [08:00] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, ubuntu@ubuntu# gksudo nautilus /path/to file? [08:00] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: It says its only for those with cards that support video accelerated mpeg playback === broken_ is now known as brokenwall [08:00] <roccity_> broken_, so it works with static but not dhcp [08:00] <brokenwall> yes [08:00] <RPG-Master> I think [08:00] <brokenwall> so i am only really having DHCP problems [08:00] <roccity_> brokenwall, hold let me test something [08:01] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: it also has the 195 driver. You can use the 185 or 190 if you wish [08:01] <zslashz> hello [08:01] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: OK, will try :) [08:01] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: sure, or you can use the alt+f2 dialogue. Both will achieve the same end [08:02] <zslashz> how to we create a custom icon on desktop, and how to edit the target of this icon??????? [08:02] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: I use the 195 with my gf 6150 [08:02] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Did you notice any improvements? [08:02] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: you can drag icons from the menu to desktop [08:03] <ActionParsnip> Rpg-master: I don't game so no. I just know it works [08:03] <roccity_> brokenwall, not sure why it doesn't pick up dhcp can you get dhcp with the wired? [08:03] <brokenwall> sometimes [08:03] <zslashz> i want to create an custom icon for a program which runs on a server in another place [08:03] <edbian> Is all of the software in the repos legal? [08:03] <brokenwall> i wonder if its a router issue [08:03] <zslashz> so i have to specify the target the same as u do on windows [08:03] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: check the dhcp pool on the router isn't too small [08:03] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip,So.. ubuntu@ubuntu# gksudo nautilus /usr/bin and click on FireFox to launch it? [08:04] <Mehedi_Simon> how to open rar file? [08:04] <roccity_> brokenwall, does dmesg say anything about dhcp or dns errors? [08:04] <brokenwall> my router is a buffalo whr-hp-g54 with DD-WRT kernel 2.6 firmware [08:04] <SPF> configure: error: "function ctime_r not found." [08:04] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: firefox is already on the liveCD. Do NOT run firefox in nautilus launched with gksudo [08:04] <SPF> how can I solve this? [08:05] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: you can use a symlink to make a link to the item you want to run from desktop too [08:05] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: doesn't matter what it is, check the dhcp pool isn't constrained [08:05] <zslashz> hmm..i can edit the target of the icon on that? [08:05] <Mehedi_Simon> how to open rar file? [08:05] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, That wont work. I have Broadcom wireless card [08:05] <tautologism> Anybody using an i810-ish graphics chipset with Karmic? Specifically 855GM? [08:05] <roccity_> brokenwall, is dhcp enabled on the router? [08:06] <brokenwall> yes [08:06] <ActionParsnip> Mehedi_simon: sudo apt-get install rar unrar [08:06] <zslashz> mehedi_simon : sudo apt-get install unrar [08:06] <brokenwall> my media center, phone, and wife's pc use DHCP [08:06] <SPF> Mehedi_Simon: install unrar-nonfree, open nautilus and double click the file [08:06] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: what won't? [08:06] <brokenwall> the DHCP pool starts at 50 all the way to 250 [08:06] <roccity_> brokenwall, do you have another computer that you can test to see if it is assigning ip's [08:07] <timfrost> SPF: have you installed all the build dependencies for the package? [08:07] <brokenwall> it assigns ips in windows on this laptop [08:07] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: ok then if your dhcp pool is 2 then there are no more ips left are there. Check the pool [08:07] <SPF> timfrost: I have installed build-essential and kernel-sources* [08:07] <brokenwall> my pool is not 2 [08:07] <brokenwall> there is plenty of available ips [08:08] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: ok, what is it? [08:08] <brokenwall> 50.50 ==> 50.250 [08:08] <mactimes> Anyone could provide me some help with sound issues with Skype? [08:08] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: its worth a check, its free and quick [08:08] <zslashz> does symlink allow u to edit the target of the icon? [08:08] <SPF> timfrost: according to the readme I have installed all dependencies [08:08] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: ok that should be plenty :) [08:08] <timfrost> SPF: what are you trying to compile? [08:09] <mactimes> I don't have input on Skype, to be more specific. [08:09] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: you just make a new link, you can also right click the desktop and make a new launcher which will give a gui to what is launched [08:09] <brokenwall> I have DNS Masq turned on in my router' [08:10] <ActionParsnip> Brokenwall: are you restricting dhcp clients to a set list of mac addresses? [08:10] <roccity_> brokenwall, when you try and get dhcp on wireless does it give a error or say that it isup and running? [08:10] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, The internet on the CD.Need to use ndiswrapper, my Win wlan drivers, blacklist 2 files, and run initramfs, then reboot to have wireless to work. [08:10] <zslashz> i know this but the problem is..on my desktop my right click menu does contain create new launcher as it did on 9.04 [08:10] <zslashz> im using 9.10 remix [08:10] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: you can do all that in the livecd [08:10] <brokenwall> i don't have any MAC restrictions on my router [08:11] <brokenwall> i know this issue isn't a problem at the house because the same problems happen at my office [08:11] <brokenwall> and the public wifi in the mall below my office [08:11] <timfrost> SPF: the sdevelopment libraries are in a -dev or -devel package, not the run-time package (eg libxml2-dev is needed to compile a program that uses the Gnome libxml2 library) [08:11] <roccity_> brokenwall, I'm just wondering if it is a dns issue or a ip and dns issue [08:12] <brokenwall> tell me what to type and look for [08:12] <roccity_> brokenwall, if it is a dns issue you can use opendns for the dns server info [08:12] <brokenwall> don't think its dns [08:12] <ActionParsnip> Roccity: its not dns. The interface just fails to get dhcp [08:12] <brokenwall> cause i can tell it to use global dns and it will pull frm the router [08:12] <roccity_> brokenwall, so do you get a ip but cant get webpages and that ? [08:13] <brokenwall> i just can't get any ips at all using wireless and only sometimes using wired [08:13] <brokenwall> when the wired gets a dhcp address it works fine [08:13] <brokenwall> but its very off and on [08:13] <macpen1> HELP: how to install sound card in ubuntu 9.10? [08:13] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, That would entail changing the ISO on the CD, would it not? And I thought you couldn't do that. [08:13] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, Are you sure you need ndiswrapper, have you tried just grabbing the firmware for your card? [08:14] <roccity_> brokenwall, sorry I'm out of ideas at the moment [08:14] <SPF> timfrost: thanks, I found one dependacy missing. But it still does not work: http://pastebin.com/mca3728f [08:14] <brokenwall> i have updated the wireless drivers from intellinuxwireless.org and the firmware in the lib/firmware [08:14] <zslashz> actionparsnip : there is no create new launcher on my right click menu [08:15] <brokenwall> after installing the new linux drivers for my realtek lan i as then able to get the wired to work sometimes [08:15] <zslashz> actionparsnip : how do i fix this?? [08:15] <ichat> i have a setup of 4 sata disks and an ide dvd-drive, when i try to install ubuntu it goes fine until it needs to install grub... (it wants to do so on hd0 (??) i mounted a 1gb partition on sda1,1 (fists partition on first disk), as /boot but after reboot, the system fails to boot, (no grub messages ) [08:15] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: if it doesn't involve rebooting it can be done. You can remaster the iso to be reqady to go too [08:16] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: is there a "new" entry to then open a submenu? [08:16] <zslashz> actionparsnip : no there isnt === Wolf is now known as Guest25472 [08:16] <ActionParsnip> Ichat: all drives have ide ;) [08:16] <ionut> how can i see my hardware components ? [08:16] <llutz> ichat: hd0 is the MBR (first sector, first hdd) [08:16] <roccity_> ichat, before you click install on the installation there is a advanced button push this and I think that you can choose where to install grub [08:16] <ionut> for example in windows properties of my computer [08:17] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: weird, that's all I got. I don't use icons much [08:17] <llutz> ichat: and even if devices are called sdaXY, grubs notation is (hd0,0) for 1st partition on 1st disk [08:17] <timfrost> SPF: have you added libxml2-dev ? That supplies the development libxml2 libraries [08:17] <ActionParsnip> !find lshw [08:17] <ubottu> Found: lshw, lshw-gtk [08:17] <SPF> timfrost: yes, I did [08:17] <ActionParsnip> !info lshw-gtk | ionut [08:17] <ichat> thing is it didn't install [08:17] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, ndiswrapper is usually *not* the best way to go for bradcom cards, and to use the broadcom drivers ( that are already on the CD ) you would just need to add /lib/firmware/b43/ to the squashfs image on the iso, which while somewhat involved is less so than ndiswrapper and also will take less space AND is likely to be more stable. [08:17] <ubottu> ionut: lshw-gtk (source: lshw): graphical information about hardware configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 02.14-1 (karmic), package size 379 kB, installed size 1532 kB [08:18] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: the cli version would be: sudo lshw | less [08:18] <ionut> ActionParsnip: thx [08:19] <codearl> hihi [08:19] <zslashz> actionparsnip : no there isnt [08:19] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: lshw is a standard app, the gtk one will need installing [08:19] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: isn't what? [08:19] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, You could also just put take the /lib/firmware/b43 from your hard drive and copy it into /lib/firmware in the live environment and run "sudo rmmod b43 && sudo modprobe b43" [08:19] <llutz> ichat: use live-cd to repair grub, try writing it to "/dev/sda1" [08:19] <codearl> hihiwc [08:19] <brokenwall> any idea how to fix the dhcp issue [08:20] <timfrost> SPF: that doesn't appear in the lists in that pastebin (although libxml2 package does). Which ubuntu release are you running? [08:20] <zslashz> actionparsnip : i dont have create new launcher or new entry on my right click menu on desktop [08:20] <lsdluna> where is the openoffice folder usually located in? [08:20] <ActionParsnip> brokenwall: i'd look in your routers logs to see if it recieves the dhcp request [08:20] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: I know, you said earlier [08:20] <brokenwall> k [08:21] <brokenwall> quit [08:21] <ActionParsnip> Nice gratitude from brokenwall eh [08:21] <zslashz> actionparsnip : anyway to fix this??? [08:21] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: like I said. I don't know as I don't use icons all that much [08:22] <zslashz> ok thanks [08:22] <kemsiro> anybody knows how can i find out all mac addresses of PC on LAN [08:22] <SPF> timfrost: 9.10 [08:22] <ActionParsnip> Zslashz: you can use symlinks though [08:22] <ActionParsnip> Kemsiro: arp [08:22] <llutz> kemsiro: nmap, arp [08:22] <kemsiro> thanks, i will try [08:22] <Jordan_U> ichat, http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide. But also just try changing the boot order in the BIOS. [08:23] <ActionParsnip> Kemsiro: there is rarp to go the other way [08:23] <ionut> does anyone knows a good hmtl and css editor ? [08:23] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: gedit [08:23] <ichat> thnx, ill just try again [08:23] <Jordan_U> kemsiro, ifconfig | grep HWaddr [08:24] <ActionParsnip> !html [08:24] <ubottu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/ [08:24] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, I follow that. But I thought the live environment couldn't be written to. I have always used ndiswrapper and such, because I followed the networking/wlan sticky [08:24] <timfrost> SPF: double-check that you have installed libxml2-dev, then do a fresh configure (do a 'make clean' or 'make distclean' before re-running the configure) [08:25] <Jordan_U> kemsiro, Or if you want to extract just the the mac address, then "ifconfig | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}'" [08:25] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, And I couldn't get wireless to work any other way [08:25] <timfrost> SPF: it is possible that the configure is using saved data from previous runs [08:25] <ionut> ActionParsnip: another one,more advanced you know ? [08:25] <ActionParsnip> Lostinspace_46: you can, changes will be lost on reboot. You can even apt-get upgrade if you like [08:26] <SPF> timfrost: I get your point, but after cleaning it still complains about ctime_c [08:26] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: I know of none. I only knew the factoid [08:26] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, The Live environment keeps changes to the file system in RAM, so it's just like a normal system except the changes will be lost when you reboot ( and you are limited in how much you can write by your available RAM ) [08:26] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: its just text so any text editor will do it [08:26] <mactimes> Could someone, please, help me with audio input device issue in karmic? [08:26] <ActionParsnip> !details | mactimes [08:26] <ubottu> mactimes: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [08:27] <mactimes> Rephrasing: I have no input from any audio devices in karmic. [08:28] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: is the mic muted? [08:28] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, No. [08:28] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, Did you try installing b43-fwcutter while connected via ethernet ( it needs to download the firmware for legal reasons ) or downloading the firmware directly and just moving it to /lib/firmware/b43 ? [08:29] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: then all I got is to run: lspci | grep -i audio ,and websearch the output to find guides [08:29] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, I've been browsing and googleing and it seems that the problem is related to one channel canceling the other one, but I'm no expert on that and all methods I've tried from web didn't solve it. Now I have a clean install again to try to solve it if someone can help so I don't have any interference from prior tests. [08:29] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: sudo lshw -C audio ,may also help [08:30] <ionut> ActionParsnip: yes but there are editors that make ur job easier (for example macromedia in windows) i don't want one like macromedia but one that can recognise tags and so on .. [08:30] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, Ok, I'll try. Thank you. [08:30] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: then you know as much as me [08:30] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: try a few, see which gives what you need (or close) [08:31] <theadmin> Is it somehow possible to allow a user to mount devices (that do not automount) without making him/her an admin? [08:31] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: could see if there are bugs logged for your hardware. You could try switching to OSS [08:31] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, "sudo lshw -C audio" provided no output. I'll pastebin the output of the other command line. [08:32] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, I tried OSS too, but no success from that either. [08:32] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: try: sudo lshw -C sound ,then [08:32] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, That one worked. [08:32] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, I'll pastebin it. [08:32] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: add it in /etc/fstab and it will mount [08:32] <lostinspace_46> ActionParsnip, Jordan_U I type to slow to keep up..lol. Umm why would b43 work in live env if it won't work in the O/S, and I pretty sure it won't. Had a hell of a time going wireless when I first got ubuntu. [08:32] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, Again, thank you for the support. [08:33] <ActionParsnip> Mactimes: I'm on my phone and web browsing is pretty painful [08:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: O rly? Even if it's encrypted with TrueCrypt? I don't think that will work [08:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Guess i was a little rude just now, sorry [08:33] <timfrost> SPF: OK. I can't locate that function on my system, but a search indicates that it is in a version of the main libc library that is re-entrant (denoted by the _r suffix). Does the configure script offer an option to not use the re-entrant library? [08:33] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: you never added that info. Its cool, just chill :D [08:34] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, If you weren't connected to the internet when you installed b43-fwcutter it wouldn't have worked ( I know that sounds stupid, but broadcom won't allow Ubuntu to distribute their firmware so it has to be downloaded from broadcom's site ) [08:34] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I've not used encrypted filesystems. I don't wear a tinfoil hat [08:35] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: hat?... huh [08:35] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: tinfoil hats stop the government reading your mind [08:36] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: not sure otherwise, sounds like a toughy but maybe someone else can help [08:36] <mactimes> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ca/1801299 I'll browse for issues related to my hardware. In any case, I'm accepting suggestions should you have any. [08:36] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip, Nonsense, that's just what the government *wants* you to think! [08:36] <stanman246> hi is it possible to 'stream' an external monitor? [08:36] <theadmin> Hm... It seems it mounts fine if user has rwx access to mount point [08:36] * Gracenotes hits "snooze" on the bad analogy alarm [08:37] <ionut> hei, we (me and some friends) have created a game in java. but for now is just working on windows. i'm wondering if i can make it work on linux (a debian package? )?? [08:37] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_u: they win this time [08:37] <SPF> timfrost: not as far as I can see, I tried to exclude packages, but it did not work [08:37] <Karhu> hi everyone i was wondering if anyone can help me..i have a 2Gig Kensington USB memory stick and it seems to have a file "stuck" on it..i tried to delete the file a while ago and it didnt work somehow..any other device i plug the drive into doesnt even see this file but my pc always does [08:37] <theadmin> ionut: Just give users the .jar file, that will do it usually [08:38] <thiefy> !chown | Karhu [08:38] <ubottu> Karhu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [08:38] <theadmin> Karhu: Try checking the filesystem on it :/ [08:39] <theadmin> Karhu: fsck /dev/usbdrivename [08:39] <thiefy> karhu, read up about the chown command. maybe that is your prob? [08:39] <ionut> theadmin: now,because i've made it executable (.exe) . the source code is all in java ofcourse (i've done it using netbeans) [08:39] <jj2> hi am new to ubuntu running x86 version of 9.10 [08:39] <thiefy> me too jj2 [08:39] <thiefy> er, me 2 jjtoo [08:39] <jj2> yes [08:40] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, Actually fwcutter is in the ubuntu repo. My drivers are bcmwl5 though. [08:40] <theadmin> jj2: Okay, so, what is the problem [08:40] <jj2> well i want to know how to write a scirpt to download using wget and then shutdown once the downlaod is over [08:40] <Jordan_U> ionut, Why did you make it a .exe? a .jar or .class file can be run directly on windows, linux, and OSX. [08:41] <theadmin> jj2: wget http://example.org/index.html -O /home/yourname/somefile && shutdown -h now (note, MUST be run as root) === steveire_ is now known as steveire [08:42] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, Yes, the package is in the repos and that package contains a script that downloads the firmware from broadcom's website when you install it, the firmware is not contained in the package itself [08:42] <jj2> @the admin thanks [08:42] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, If you are not connected to the internet when you install the package it will not work. [08:42] <sabda> hai all [08:43] <SPF> timfrost: I got a newer version from svn which works, sorry for the trouble [08:44] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, I see, but would it work on drivers that weren't 43xx series? [08:44] <ionut> Jordan_U: i want to make it public. is a great game , and is big also. is not good to do a.jar file.is better a .exe [08:44] <timfrost> SPF: Ah OK. I guess the older versikon depended on a library function that isn't in Ubuntu. [08:45] <jj2> help i want to run gui apps from tty1 or tty2 [08:45] <theadmin> ionut: Provide Windows users with a .exe and Linux users with a .jar [08:45] <Jordan_U> ionut, .jar files are compressed. [08:45] <alankila> not necessarily, .jar can be uncompressed afaik. [08:45] <theadmin> jj2: I don't think it's actually possible. But you can start a GUI in tty's using "startx" [08:46] <ionut> theadmin: u know that not always .jar files respond . there are cases when they don't work. in windows i've found this problem a couple of times [08:46] <lsdluna> im having problems with running an sh file for Alfresco, does anyone here have any experience? [08:46] <alankila> theadmin: by the way, what is wrong with doubleclicking .jar on windows? [08:46] <theadmin> alankila: JRE is not assigned to JAR by default. [08:47] <tuxer_> hi all [08:47] <jj2> got fatal server error display already running for :0 [08:47] <alankila> theadmin: yes, well, a jre/jdk is prerequisite. [08:47] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, Can you pastebin the output from "lspci" ? [08:47] <jj2> theadmin:i got fatal server error [08:47] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, One minute [08:47] <alankila> Once installed I've found .jar files to work just fine, though. [08:48] <theadmin> jj2: I see... hem. Yeah same here :/ sorry, i dunno how to run X on multiple displays. [08:48] <theadmin> alankila: Well, same here... so i dunno. [08:48] <ionut> i am using kdesvn ( a svn application ) how can i add a user ? [08:48] <theadmin> jj2: Err, multiple X's on same display [08:48] <timfrost> jj2: try explicitly telling the app to attach to :0 with '-display :0' (don't use startx or xinit) [08:49] <llutz> jj2: if you want to have a 2nd x-server running: startx -- :1 [08:50] <Jordan_U> ionut, Is this game open source? [08:50] <fahadsadah> Jordan_U: kdesvn isn't a game. [08:50] <ionut> Jordan_U: yes,it will be,but now is not finished [08:50] <theadmin> fahadsadah: ...He reffers to game ionut is working [08:50] <Jordan_U> fahadsadah, I'm referring to his earlier comments [08:50] <fahadsadah> Oh [08:51] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, here it is....http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m19d680fd [08:51] <theadmin> I wonder... is there some kinda crontab for all users? [08:51] <llutz> theadmin: /etc/cron.* [08:51] <theadmin> llutz: Oh. [08:51] <shashank> Help needed with my cups printer. [08:51] <Jordan_U> ionut, When the source is released under a DFSG compatible license you can probably get help from debian / ubuntu developers to package it. [08:51] <shashank> I am unable to print pdf files [08:52] <shashank> The status message is 'cups-insecure-filter' [08:52] <shashank> There's some problem with backend [08:52] <alphAEcho> Security Issue, anyone to help here? [08:52] <Jordan_U> ionut, Depending on how popular it is / if a debian maintainer seems interested in it you may not even have to maintain the package yourself at all. [08:52] <ionut> Jordan_U: i think is a good idea. the game is called keywords (is a table game) [08:52] <theadmin> Can i stop the automounted volumes appearing on my desktop? :/ it's not really nice to have them there. [08:52] <shashank> What to do to make the printer secure [08:53] <shashank> "Stopping the job because the scheduler could not execute the backend" is the error I get whenever I try to print something to pdf. [08:53] <shashank> Please help [08:53] <jj2> theadmin: i tried the $vlc -display:0 error authentication failed [08:53] <theadmin> ...Oh wait, can be done trough gconf, nevermind. [08:53] <ionut> Jordan_U: good.the game has 3 languages (english,italian and portuguese) . has a good resolution (all resolutions ,it automatically detect ur resolution and fits itself) and has under 100 mb. [08:54] <iceroot> is ubuntu amd64 using firefox in amd64 or i386? is it build from source or is it the mozilla i386 package? [08:54] <shashank> Printer prob, please help. [08:54] <ionut> Jordan_U: resolutions > 800x640 [08:54] <Jordan_U> iceroot, amd64 from source [08:54] <shashank> ionut, I get 'cups-insecure-filter' status message === Sirconis is now known as Jathan === Jathan is now known as Sirconis [08:55] <shashank> ionut, can you help? [08:55] <iceroot> Jordan_U: thx [08:55] <ionut> shashank: where u got that message ? [08:55] <Jordan_U> iceroot, np [08:55] <theadmin> iceroot: Built from source. It's the amd64 version. [08:55] <DavidSchles> .me needs someones help [08:55] <shashank> ionut, Whenever I try to print a file to pdf, [08:55] <Xaero252> I have a networking question directly related to ubuntu; I have a router in redboot, which means it isn't actively doing anything except having a static ip adress listening on a port, however I don't know what IP adress the router is "on", its only possible for it to be within TWO subnets (192.168.0.x, and 192.168.1.x) is there any way I can scan each subnet for a device listening on a port? [08:55] * DavidSchles needs someones help [08:56] <shashank> ionut, I get a message 'Stopping job because scheduler could not execute backend' [08:56] <ionut> shashank: is ur printer installed well? [08:56] <Jordan_U> iceroot, Note that unfortunately firefoxes javascript JIT is currently only 32 bit, so the 64 bit version is actually slower in some ways. [08:56] <theadmin> DavidSchles: Don't ask to ask, just ask. [08:56] <shashank> ionut, When I try to check the status of the printer, (the place where all printers are listed) [08:56] <DavidSchles> http://dsfdsf32.pastebin.com/d1f7cb9d4 [08:56] <DavidSchles> i get that error [08:56] <shashank> ionut, I see 'cups-insecure-printer' [08:56] <DavidSchles> and firefox segfaults as of the update that ubuntu recomended today [08:57] <shashank> ionut, Yeah the printer is installed well. [08:57] <shashank> ionut, what I did was: [08:57] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, I see. it IS 43xx [08:57] <iceroot> Jordan_U: nice to know. [08:57] <theadmin> DavidSchles: Try apt-get install -f [08:57] <shashank> ionut, After getting the error I removed the printer [08:57] <shashank> ionut, and reinstalled it. [08:57] <Jordan_U> !nmap | Xaero252 [08:57] <shashank> ionut, This I did using the terminal. [08:57] <DavidSchles> theadmin: same error [08:57] <ionut> shashank: what printer u have ? [08:57] <DavidSchles> theadmin: apt-get just seems broken [08:58] <shashank> ionut, cups-pdf [08:58] <llutz> shashank: "find /usr/lib/cups/filter/ -type f -not -uid 0" [08:58] <theadmin> DavidSchles: ...oh, never had problems like that. No idea then [08:58] <shashank> ionut, wait I am on it. [08:58] <Xaero252> Jordan_U: nmap is indeed a useful utility, but it only allows me to scan a specific IP adress for a listening port, it doesnt allow me to see if a device is attached to a static ip adress [08:59] <shashank> ionut, I executed the command you typed, but it yields no result in the terminal. [08:59] <DavidSchles> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable [08:59] <Jordan_U> Xaero252, What do you mean by "attatched to a static ip address" ? nmap can scan ranges of ports and ip addresses, what more do you need? === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [08:59] <shashank> ionut, What do you think may be the problem? [08:59] <ionut> i think there are some problems with permissions. u have to find anything in /usr/lib/cups/filter and /usr/lib/cups/backend which are not owned by the root and chown and chgrp them to root ? [09:00] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, So if I d/l it from Broadcom and replace the B43-fwcutter in the ISO with the d/l one then burn, it should work? [09:00] <theadmin> Can i remove the software center... or at least get it back to how it was in Jaunty? [09:00] <Xaero252> Jordan_U: hmmm, I'll check it out, is there any way I can pass it a level of verbosity (since when I tried to do nmap 192.168.2-254 it doesnt say anything and kinda just... sits)? [09:00] <Squeese> Hey, I got an wireless card: D-Link DWA 556, it "worked" sortof out of the box when I installed Ubuntu, however - the connection is unstable, Im going to try using the MadWifi "module?", do I need to uninstall the current drivers? Sysinfo says about my network controller: Atheros Communicatins Inc AR50008 etc.. [09:00] <theadmin> It's stupid now [09:00] <shashank> ionut, roger that. [09:00] <hsr> Hi! Will upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 affect any application? [09:00] <llutz> shashank: "find /usr/lib/cups/backend/ -type f -not -uid 0" [09:01] <theadmin> hsr: Breaks libnotify in a manner, popups appear not on top right but heck knows where [09:01] <fireOnSong> how do u do this ... - "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" [09:01] <ionut> shashank: try to run this commands sudo chown -hR /usr/lib/cups/filter , sudo chown -hR /usr/lib/cups/backend , sudo chgrp -hR /usr/lib/cups/filter , sudo chgrp -hR /usr/lib/cups/backend [09:01] <hsr> Will it affect working of torrent in Transmission>?? [09:01] <theadmin> hsr: No. [09:02] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, The easiest way to do it is to install b43-fwcutter on your main machine, when it downloads and extracts the firmware from broadcom's site it will create two directories, /lib/firmware/b43 and /lib/firmware/b43-legacy, you can just copy those in the live Session or remaster the CD to add those directories. [09:02] <hsr> Any major change it can cause?? [09:02] <Cybert1nus> hello [09:02] <theadmin> hsr: Nah. Trust me, i updated, everything was awesome. [09:02] <hsr> i mean impact? [09:02] <Sa[i]nT> How do I open up a port in Ubuntu? [09:02] <ionut> shashank: sorry , u must add root between all for eg. sudo chown -hR root /usr/libs/cups/filter [09:02] <hsr> alright [09:03] <Jordan_U> Sa[i]nT, All ports are open by default ( though not much is listening by default ) [09:03] <hsr> theadmin: thanks a lot for your help. [09:03] <Jordan_U> Sa[i]nT, You might be thinking of port forewariding though, which is something you do on your router, not ubuntu itself [09:05] <Cybert1nus> I've moved my Ubuntu Server install from one partition to another. I have a seperate /boot partition. I've done this before (with the same install) and then it worked. Now it doesn't. When I boot Grub2 works fine, but during the boot Linux can't find the root filesystem. I've checked the UUID it wants to mount, and it is the correct one. So it looks like my InitRD has lost the RAID drivers or something (I'm running on softraid level 1). Anybody any advice how [09:05] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, Sounds good. I assume there is a lib section in the ISO to put those files in? [09:05] <DavidSchles> so dpkg just doesn't work for me anymore [09:05] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, Yes === kenneth_ is now known as kegusa [09:06] <DavidSchles> this is horrible [09:06] <tasslehoff> anyone know if there's a way to run a TeraTerm ttl-script in Linux? [09:07] <theadmin> ...how do you remove One? === fadli is now known as adit1985 [09:08] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, Thank you. I truly appreciate the help. I am about 6 months into ubuntu now, and trying to learn everything at once :) [09:08] <Jordan_U> lostinspace_46, np :) [09:09] <zulfi> dose anyone know if ubuntu tweak version 0.5.1 will work with 9.04? [09:09] <lostinspace_46> Jordan_U, And you don't even come with a disclaimer..LOL [09:10] <zulfi> anyone === Kartagis is now known as suigeneris [09:11] <demo> !moonlight [09:11] <ubottu> For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal. [09:11] <DavidSchles> can someone tell me whats going on here: http://dsfdsf3.pastebin.com/d7e604ae9 [09:11] <DavidSchles> its making my computer almost unusable [09:12] <Jordan_U> zulfi, What are you actually using ubuntu tweak for? It can probably be done fairly easily without it. [09:13] <Shambat> I'm trying to follow the steps shown here: http://tinyurl.com/ycpjrb6 but the step where I download the kernel source fails (step 2) ... how can I download the kernel source of the kernal I am currently using (2.6.22.18)? [09:14] <zulfi> im just seeing if the new ubuntu tweak will work for the 9.04, because i just need a better one ( : === Miguel is now known as Guest11521 [09:14] <DaemonFC> well, now Compiz doesn't work with Catalyst 10.2 === live is now known as oinkoinkoink [09:15] <oinkoinkoink> What is the channel for Kubuntu [09:15] <ic3> hello [09:15] <DJones> oinkoinkoink: #kubuntu [09:15] <oinkoinkoink> Are they a lot of people? [09:16] <DavidSchles> can someone tell me whats going on here: http://dsfdsf3.pastebin.com/d7e604ae9 i need help [09:16] <oinkoinkoink> No this channel is dead [09:16] <oinkoinkoink> Just like #mandriva [09:16] <oinkoinkoink> AHaha [09:16] <zulfi> jordan_U im just seeing if the new ubuntu tweak will work for the 9.04 because i just need a better one ( : [09:17] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Does the file /etc/passwd.lock exist? [09:17] <DJones> oinkoinkoink: I don't know, I only use gnome on my system, so its not a channel I go in, from what people have said its fairly quiet though, it just takes longer to get a response because its quieter [09:17] <oinkoinkoink> Yea you have time to compil the entire world before getting an answer [09:18] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: yes [09:18] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Is there any output from "sudo fuser /etc/passwd.lock" ? [09:19] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: no [09:19] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Do you use the guest session feature? [09:19] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: rarely [09:20] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, You might have hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/432964 [09:20] <sd232> !moonlight [09:20] <ubottu> For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal. === john is now known as Guest38797 === Guest38797 is now known as hullo [09:21] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: i don't understand though, this will cause firefox to segfault, and break dpkg? [09:21] <zulfi> dose anyone know if ubuntu tweak 0.5.1 will work on 9.04 [09:21] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Just to be completely sure nothing legitimately has a lock on /etc/passwd I would reboot, then if they are still there delete /etc/passwd.lock and /etc/shadow.lock [09:22] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: yes i rebooted a few times === Thijx is now known as Thyx [09:22] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: so i should just delete those files? [09:22] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Shouldn't cause firefox to segfault but that is what is causing the problem with dpkg [09:22] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Yes [09:22] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: ok i will delete [09:22] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Wait [09:22] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: i believe dpkg failed in updating firefox, and that is causing the segfault [09:23] <lsdluna> can someone please give me a quick hand with installing Alfresco please? [09:23] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, Just rename them, accidentally mistyping and deleting /etc/passwd would be disasterous [09:23] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: ok [09:24] <antonis> hi [09:25] <zulfi> dose anyone know if tweak 0.5.1 will work on ubuntu 9.04? [09:26] <joel_> How can I check from within ubuntu to see if my box supports sata disc? [09:26] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: should i restart? [09:26] <mgmuscari> i've royally screwed up gdm - now, trying to reinstall the gnome package, i get a dependency problem because i can't install the "fast-user-switch-applet" package. is there a way to ignore this? [09:26] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, No need ( unless the package manager is asking you to ) [09:27] <thiefy> joel. smash open the case and see if you have sata ports. [09:27] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: thanks, that may have worked [09:27] <thiefy> on the motherboard. [09:27] <Jordan_U> DavidSchles, np [09:28] <hidensoft> hi every body [09:28] <DavidSchles> Jordan_U: i think firefox just is installed incorrectly now [09:28] <hidensoft> i can play 3gp file [09:28] <hidensoft> i have VLC [09:28] <hidensoft> but VLC cant play 3GP file [09:28] <hidensoft> please help me [09:29] <thiefy> what is a 3gp file? [09:29] <iceroot> thiefy: mobile phone video [09:29] <hidensoft> yes [09:29] <thiefy> ah. [09:29] <Xarsomyr> re [09:30] <hidensoft> please help me [09:30] <hidensoft> this is VLC error [09:30] <hidensoft> No suitable decoder module: [09:30] <hidensoft> VLC does not support the audio or video format "samr". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. [09:31] <thiefy> http://en.softonic.com/s/3gp-codec-vlc [09:31] <thiefy> isn't that all you need? [09:31] <DaemonFC> http://phoronix.com/forums/showpost.php?p=113079&postcount=41 [09:31] <DaemonFC> lmao === vislumbrante is now known as osvaldo [09:32] <alankila> DaemonFC: at times, it does seem like linux steps backwards. [09:32] <DaemonFC> alankila, I just install Catalyst 10.2 and Compiz now has a mind of its own :) [09:33] <DaemonFC> and their release notes are not even up yet, so who knows what they did? :P [09:33] <alankila> still, the poster has the wrong question. How can xorg devs release versions of xorg that don't support drivers that worked for some earlier release? HAven't they heard of backwards compatibility? [09:34] <hidensoft> thiefy, that is player , i just need codec [09:34] <alankila> THAT is the question. Was this question asked more often, people always had the option of using the old driver that worked. [09:34] <DaemonFC> alankila, I am thinking about taking my Radeon out to the shooting range and replacing it with some kind of Geforce [09:34] <bloodski> i've got an hfs+ journal fs, and i need to get the userdata like pictures etc, but it says it cannot access the dirs (some dirs (non-personal) i can get access to) and if i try to sudo chmod 777 the user dir, it says it's only mounted as read-only [09:34] <DavidSchles> anyone know of a way i can reinstall firefox without loosing bookmarks? [09:34] <llutz> DavidSchles: just reinstall it, it won't touch personal settings like bookmarks [09:34] <DaemonFC> alankila, Nvidia is usually ahead of X.org [09:35] <DavidSchles> llutz: must i remove it first then [09:35] <alankila> DaemonFC: true, because they apparently don't use xorg much :) they reimplement large parts of it in their driver [09:35] <llutz> DavidSchles: sudo aptitude reinstall firefox [09:35] <DaemonFC> sometimes you can even pull X out of git and your Nvidia card still runs. ATI is now 6 months behind X.org [09:35] <Jordan_U> alankila, Backwards compatibility is only important when the source isn't available. The Xorg ( and kernel ) devs just don't care about supporting proprietary drivers ( but this discussion should move to #ubuntu-offtopic ) [09:35] <DaemonFC> it's inexcusable [09:35] <alankila> that's why nvidia's stuff works and ATI's stuff doesn't, or every new version update always is broken with ATI. [09:35] <DavidSchles> llutz: thanks [09:35] <oinkoinkoink> I have problem with Ubuntu, how can i access to Windows Update [09:36] <DavidSchles> damn firefox still segfaults [09:36] <DaemonFC> bypassing large parts of X when they had DRI 1 made sense [09:36] <DaemonFC> it was the way to bypass a lot of X shortcomings and get better performance [09:36] <shashank> How to remove folder from /usr/lib? [09:36] <DaemonFC> sadly, ATI went along with DRI :) [09:36] <thiefy> hidensoft, http://zoom-player.en.softonic.com/ this one says it plays 3gp files.... but i'm sure you could find a codec for vlc somewhere on the intertubes.... [09:37] <alankila> Jordan_U: I submit as final remark on this matter that USERS will love backwards compatibility, open source or proprietary. THey love that stuff just works. [09:37] <shashank> Jordan_U, How to remove folder from /usr/lib [09:37] <suigeneris> sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/folder [09:37] <suigeneris> shashank, ^^ [09:37] <shashank> Jordan_U: I have removed a package, but the folder still exists. [09:38] <shashank> suigenerisis, Hi! [09:38] <shashank> suigeneris, Hi! [09:38] <suigeneris> hi [09:38] <shashank> suigeneris, can you help? [09:38] <suigeneris> with what shashank ? [09:38] <shashank> suigeneris, I have a folder to remove from /usr/lib [09:39] <shashank> suigeneris, I have removed a package but the folder of the package still persists. [09:39] <suigeneris> shashank, try sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/folder [09:39] <shashank> suigeneris, I am on it! [09:40] <shashank> suigeneris, Thanks! [09:40] <suigeneris> shashank, np [09:41] <bloodski> i've got an hfs+ journal fs, and i need to get the userdata like pictures etc, but it says it cannot access the dirs (some dirs (non-personal) i can get access to) and if i try to sudo chmod 777 the user dir, it says it's only mounted as read-only [09:41] <bloodski> how can i access this dir? [09:42] <suigeneris> would any creative webcam work for me? [09:43] <joel_> I want to know how fast my processor is and what is supported by it only using the terminal.. how do I do? lshw -short doesn't list processor speed only type [09:43] <osvaldo> hey guys morning [09:43] <llutz> joel_: cat /proc/cpuinfo [09:44] <alankila> the problem with cpuinfo is that it lists the currently prevailing CPU speed -- if you have dynamic scaling, the values can be, like, whatever. [09:45] <llutz> alankila: the model name often provides missing info [09:45] <mamous> hello [09:45] <alankila> In case it does, no problem. I thought dmesg might be most reliable, the CPU is identified early. [09:45] <mamous> I start my laptop [09:45] <joel_> llutz, If I want to check if s-ata is supported.. how do i do that? [09:45] <mamous> and it tells me network manager is not running [09:46] <mamous> I type /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start [09:46] <osvaldo> do someone knows a program that works just like Wine? [09:46] <mamous> it tells me... : no such file or dirctory [09:46] <llutz> joel_: open case, look for s-ata plugs ;) no idea, tried "lspci"? [09:46] <mamous> what should it di [09:46] <mamous> and my small sister now she did [09:46] <mamous> sudo apt-get remove nerwork-manager [09:46] <joel_> llutz, i dont rly know how a sata plug looks like.. the processor is a 1250 mhz amd athlon [09:47] <alankila> joel_: well, you should definitely open the PC up and study the innards for a while. You'll have to know this stuff if you think the answer to the question is relevant anyway [09:47] <llutz> joel_: get the model of your mainboard, feed google with it, if you don't own a manual [09:47] <joel_> smart [09:47] <joel_> thanks [09:49] <alankila> the sata ports are often arranged in a row, at the bottom right edge of the motherboard, they are small rectangular slots which a small flat cable can be inserted, it will be engulfed by plastic & it's keyed so the cable can only go in one way [09:50] <thiefy> joel. i'm sure google can also find you a picture of a sata port too. [09:50] <thiefy> google knows everything. [09:50] <thiefy> hence my previous answer of just looking inside the case after ye know what it looks like. [09:51] <alankila> I'd start by opening the case, it's better to know what to look for first, and if you are systematic you'll have a passing familiarity with all the stuff inside at least one PC then. But mobo manuals are the best because they generally list all things of interest, albeit schematically, so you do have to open the case anyway [09:51] <thiefy> so we aer all in agreement? [09:51] <thiefy> open the bloody case? [09:53] <shashank> Help Help Help, I accidentally deleted the cups folder from /usr/lib [09:53] <shashank> Help Help Help, I accidentally deleted the cups folder from /usr/lib [09:53] <shashank> Can anyone tell me how to get it back? [09:53] <alankila> shashank: apt-get --reinstall cups (and all other cups-related packages you can find) [09:53] <thiefy> heh [09:53] <alankila> eh, apt-get --reinstall install cups [09:53] <thiefy> isn't it in yer trash? [09:53] <shashank> alankila, I am on it! [09:54] <alankila> shashank: try dpkg -l|grep cups to look for other related packages, they might have supplied files under /usr/lib/cups, might not. Also try "dpkg -S /usr/lib/cups" [09:54] <alankila> the dpkg -S ought to tell you all packages installed according to the dpkg database which have supplied a file with /usr/lib/cups as part of the path... Hopefully [09:55] <shashank> alankila, the first command you gave does not work [09:55] <shashank> alankila, that is : apt-get --reinstall cups [09:55] <dsandy82> is this where I might query a question to those more knowledgeable than myself? [09:55] <thiefy> no. [09:56] <shashank> alankila, It reports: E: Invalid operation cups [09:56] <thiefy> you are the smartest one here dsandy82 [09:56] <thiefy> so good luck. [09:56] <alankila> shashank: yes, see my updated line [09:56] <shashank> alankila, roger [09:56] <dsandy82> lol, thanks for the smart ass...I have a family for that though, thank you [09:56] <alankila> and the other stuff as well. [09:56] <thiefy> i'm your lost twin brother. [09:57] <thiefy> ever wonder why you had a twin sized bed? [09:57] <thiefy> now you know. [09:57] <dsandy82> damn!! lol [09:57] <thiefy> mom lied to us. [09:57] <dsandy82> so seriously though... [09:57] <ikonia> it's ubuntu support discussion [09:57] <ikonia> thiefy: keep in mind the topic of this channel please [09:57] <thiefy> and she isn't a real queen either. i don't know why she got a queen sized bed. [09:57] <ikonia> thiefy: stop please [09:57] <thiefy> we're breaking the ice. [09:57] <ikonia> enough now [09:58] <thiefy> are you gonna be ok ikonia ? [09:58] <dsandy82> thanks for the humor though thiefy [09:58] <ikonia> thiefy: please check the topic of the channel, and try to keep to it, for idle chatter use #ubuntu-offtopic [09:58] <shashank> alankila, I suppose your last command was to set the destination. [09:58] <shashank> Alankila, But how do I install the packages? [09:58] <thiefy> it's a sad day when some random irc guy scolds you for adding humour to a nerdy conversation which makes someone happy. [09:59] <wuola> Do you guys know of any chinese websites poorly written [09:59] <alankila> shashank: err... dpkg -S ? No. [09:59] <wuola> I need them immediately [09:59] <shashank> Alankila, Yeah [09:59] <ikonia> wuola: you've just asked in #ubuntu-offtopic - please keep that discussion in there - this is ubuntu support [09:59] <shashank> alankila, that command worked. [09:59] <alankila> shashank: "apt-get install" is for installing packages, --reinstall is for forcing an install even though the package already is installed according to database. What more do you want? [09:59] <shashank> alankila, but all my attempts to reinstall the cups are in vain. [09:59] <shashank> alankila, sorry about that, I will try once more [10:00] <alankila> shashank: well, right, the dpkg -S should be a complete list of all files that dpkg thinks should be under /usr/lib/cups & all the package names that supplied these files, so you know which packages to attempt to reinstall [10:00] <dsandy82> I just bought an Hannspree HF237, and have installed the official ati drivers for my new 5770 ati card. the monitor goes to a 1920 x 1080 resolution natively, and I've set the resolution to that, but there's a black border around my desktop, it's not using all the screen [10:01] <thiefy> is a hannspree a monitor? === EcKstasy is now known as JNsamuel [10:01] <alankila> shashank: but just in case something still doesn't work after you do it, I have no other suggestion except to extract the complete list of all cups-related packages and install them with some dpkg -l style line that lists all packages. [10:01] <dsandy82> yea, 23" monitor [10:01] <thiefy> is there a auto config button / setting in the monitor's front buttons? try that... [10:01] <thiefy> it'll reconfig it self. [10:01] <llutz> dsandy82: "xdpyinfo |grep dimen" and check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" [10:01] <shashank> alankila, Here is my problem in detail: 1. the dpkg command you gave worked. 2. What did not work is this command: sudo apt-get --reinstall cups [10:02] <alankila> shashank: you failed to notice the correct command I gave on the next line. [10:02] <shashank> alakila, Wait I will read again. [10:03] <alankila> shashank: it's annoying, I always forget to type --reinstall install because to my mind I already told apt-get to install something, I somehow always omit the second parameter. [10:03] <dsandy82> yea, I went through the monitors menu's can't find anything useful there, do a factory reset, nothing, and ensure I'm set to use the HDMI connection. Funny thing is in my windows install, the desktop is too big for the monitor at the same resolution [10:03] <rasse> how to integrate php irc chat room inside a website ? [10:03] <shashank> alankila, that worked! [10:04] <shashank> alankila: Thanks! [10:04] <helmut_> Hallo [10:04] <alankila> shashank: make sure you have all packages that supplied files under that dir reinstalled. [10:04] <shashank> alankila, roger that [10:04] <dsandy82> llutz my result is as follows "dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x286 millimeters)" [10:06] <alankila> shashank: and if you ever mess up the same way in /etc, know that reinstalling the packages does not bring new files under /etc. The packages must be removed and reinstalled. Or I have found no way. [10:07] <kthomas_vh> I have no root passwd set (using keys) but my AWS instance now asks for a root passwd as well as key; solution? [10:08] <dsandy82> I've tried SO MANY google searches on this, either with the monitor name, graphics card...even replaced graphics card...can't find anything pertaining [10:09] <jad> q: what is the significance of the number n in : command (n) [10:09] <thiefy> n is a letter. [10:09] <thiefy> command n - doesn't that refer to isteve's OS - meaning command n is like saying 'new' [10:10] <thiefy> like, in windows ctrl - n is for new. [10:10] <songer> hello [10:10] <jad> sorry, for example: anacron (8) [10:10] <llutz> jad: refers to manpage from part 8 [10:10] <songer> i need your help vlc can't play audio movies very well? [10:10] <llutz> man 8 anacron [10:10] <kthomas_vh> HELO songer@76.91.* [10:10] <alankila> and part 8 is for administrative tools. Just annoying obsolete manpage jargon, they ought to really do something about that. [10:10] <songer> somebody know why? [10:10] <llutz> jad: read "man man" [10:11] <alankila> it's annoying that helps system is itself obtuse enough to need a manual :) [10:11] <kthomas_vh> um, sections to man are useful :) [10:11] <alankila> kthomas_vh: not denying they are useful. Just that numeric sections are annoying jargon. [10:11] <kthomas_vh> well-- sure-- what's the alternative? [10:11] <alankila> why couldn't it say "administrative tools" instead of 8? [10:11] <llutz> too much typing [10:11] <jad> thx llutz [10:12] <kthomas_vh> because man adminstrative tools ... [10:12] <kthomas_vh> ^ what llut_z said :) [10:12] * kthomas_vh moans [10:12] <alankila> you don't have to type "man 'administratie tools' anacron". Just "man anacron". Any friendly system will scan what is available and show what it finds, if mulstiple matches then you pick what you want to see, and the numeric shortcuts could still work if you want them. [10:13] * kthomas_vh kills instance [10:13] <kthomas_vh> goete moerge, ChaosR [10:13] <dsandy82> llutz, did you see my answer to your solution request? [10:13] <vivek> i want to install dictionary can anyone tell me steps? [10:13] <llutz> dsandy82: yes, but it messes my only idea [10:14] <ddavids> vivek: i have also been looking for an offline dictionaryto install in karmic to no avail, anybody got clues? [10:14] <dsandy82> yea, I've been on this all day...it's like the resolution is right, but the monitor is reporting itself a smaller size or something [10:14] * alankila also hates gnu info pages. It's super annoying that half of stuff is in man and other half in info, and all things have man pages per policy but the man pages kindly tell you that this page is obsolete and you might find more up-to-date stuff at info... But I sense I'm getting too ranty here. [10:15] <sinthetek> i was hoping perhaps someone could explain to me some details on grub2... i would like to change how the boot menu describes the bootable oses and remove a few [10:15] <ddavids> any offline dictionary on ubuntu? [10:15] <llutz> ddavids: ding [10:15] <sinthetek> i'm going through grub2 ubuntu-wiki now but nothing seems to jump out at me so far [10:15] <ddavids> illutz: pls what is ding? [10:15] <llutz> !info ding [10:15] <ichat> strange, installing from ubuntu-server x64 9.10 fails to install grub, but with the exact same part screen (i only format volumes), and a ubuntu-aternative-desktop systeem it works fine [10:15] <ubottu> ding (source: ding): Graphical dictionary lookup program for Unix (Tk). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-3ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 90 kB, installed size 412 kB [10:15] <fodder> unplug the power on the monitor in case it had a power spike [10:15] <crissi2> hi [10:16] <llutz> ddavids: see ubottu [10:16] <crissi2> how i can control the splash screen duration? [10:16] <kemsiro> i follow as suggestion of someone here to use 'arp' to find out MAC address of other PC on LAN [10:16] <ddavids> ilutz: how do i see ubottu [10:16] <llutz> !info ding> ddavids [10:16] <ubottu> 'ddavids' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner [10:16] <kemsiro> it turns out that only win 7's HWaddr is shown, xp is not ... [10:16] <kthomas_vh> !ubottu [10:16] <ubottu> Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [10:16] <llutz> !info ding > ddavids [10:17] <Jordan_U> sinthetek, First look in /etc/default/grub for basic configuration options, if you want to do more you might have to either create manual entries or edit the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ === vinicius is now known as Guest20421 [10:18] <dsandy82> unplugged, and plugged in monitor.....no change [10:18] <dsandy82> this is a brand new out of the box monitor [10:18] <dsandy82> starting to want to go back to my old one [10:18] <fodder> did you unplug power for 30-60 secs ? [10:18] <dsandy82> 30 [10:18] <kemsiro> anyone ? i need to find out MAC address of PC on LAN .. [10:18] <Researcher> Hello everyone. [10:18] <fodder> good enough, that was my quick fix [10:19] <stopmv> is it normal that banshee uses 95m memory === Guest20421 is now known as viniciusandre [10:19] <Researcher> kemsiro : arp -a will work for you [10:19] <dsandy82> would the power cord make any difference? I just used the one from my old monitor, since it's the same plug [10:19] <Jordan_U> kemsiro, arp <ip> [10:19] <alankila> stopmv: afraid so, it's done in a developer-friendly language, allegedly, but one that is less conservative on memory. [10:19] <fodder> shouldn't make any difference [10:19] <viniciusandre> is there any way of copying a file to a tar file preserving all the directory path? [10:20] <viniciusandre> i mean, automatically create all the folders [10:20] <stopmv> akankila thanks [10:20] <dsandy82> yawn, alright, I'll try some more tomorrow before work, gotta goto bed for now, thanks anyways for now guys [10:21] <BlackDalek> is an external dial-up modem likely to work "out of the box" for sending faxes using efax? [10:21] <Jordan_U> viniciusandre, That's the default with the tar command [10:21] <viniciusandre> Jordan_U, Oo [10:21] <Jordan_U> viniciusandre, It will keep the entire path you give it [10:21] <sinthetek> Jordan_U do you know if it is bad to revert to grub1? i have a bad hd in here with several oses (for recovery) and 6 on the main one as well. i just need to clearly distinguish which installs are which [10:22] <viniciusandre> Jordan_U, let me see [10:22] <bloodski> i've got an hfs+ journal fs, and i need to get the userdata like pictures etc, but it says it cannot access the dirs (some dirs (non-personal) i can get access to) and if i try to sudo chmod 777 the user dir, it says it's only mounted as read-only [10:22] <bloodski> how can i access this dir? [10:22] <alankila> bloodski: sudo ls works? [10:23] <bloodski> sudo ls? alankila? [10:23] <alankila> bloodski: if it's a local permissions issue, sudoing the filesystem access commands make them work, no matter what permissions. [10:23] <Jordan_U> sinthetek, If you actually look at it grub legacy isn't actually any simpler for that. === katie11 is now known as [k]a[tie] [10:23] <alankila> bloodski: if there is no write support for the fs, you can't modify the filesystem. [10:24] <alankila> (or if there is, but it has been mounted read-only for some reason, such as consistency failure detected by driver, don't know enough to tell.) [10:24] <BlackDalek> are those mini USB modems "real" modems or just softmodem/winmodem jobbies? [10:24] <bloodski> alankila: not sure what has happened [10:25] <Nastya> Good morning everyone! [10:25] <Sudeep> I had Grub Legacy earlier, upgraded my ubuntu to 9.10 and now i have Grub 2 but Im unable to boot into my Windows os now. I tried configuring the file etc/grub.d/40_custom but still cudn't boot into Windows should I revert back to Grub Legacy or its the problem with my windows partition. [10:25] <zvacet> !hi| Nastya [10:25] <bloodski> but sudo cmd wont help it seems alankila [10:25] <ubottu> Nastya: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [10:25] <Speedy2> BlackDalek: Probably depends on the chipset. [10:25] <sinthetek> Jordan_U editing literal strings and being able to see clear association between device/partition and those literal strings seems a lot simpler than whatever grub2 seems to do [10:25] <alankila> bloodski: oh well, it was worth a try. [10:26] <bloodski> sure, i'll plug it in to another box and see, not hoping for anything really tho [10:26] <Jordan_U> sinthetek, Except the whole part about comments-that-aren't-really-comments and some areas that you can edit but will be overwritten without asking when you run update-grub and others that won't [10:28] <Jordan_U> sinthetek, If you want to manually edit the menu entries for your other OS's then copy them from your grub.cfg into /etc/grub.d/40_custom then remove or "sudo chmod -x" /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober. Then you can edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom however you want. [10:28] <bloodski> this is giving me such a headache [10:29] <Lonniebiz> Any rsync experts here? [10:29] <stdisease> Lonniebiz, there's bound to be some here of 1300 people [10:30] <Jordan_U> sinthetek, If you want to see some of the confusion caused by how grub legacy's update-grub works in debian / ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/21412 [10:30] <Lonniebiz> I've been backing up with rsync, but can't find one article exclusively dedicated to restoring with rsync. [10:30] <bloodski> can i mount a filesystem and force it to have write permissions? [10:31] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Lonniebiz [10:31] <ubottu> Lonniebiz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [10:31] <stdisease> bloodski, -o rw in the mount command or 'rw' in the fstab [10:31] <Lonniebiz> If I have ten folders that I've explicitly backup using an rsync command, how do I later restore those same ten folders to what is on the backup server? [10:31] <alankila> bloodski: if the driver has no write capability, obviously not. Otherwise it should be default. [10:31] <bloodski> stdisease: okay, thx [10:31] <llutz> Lonniebiz: just copy the files or use rync in reverse direcction [10:31] <Lonniebiz> ubottu, I'll do that next time. [10:31] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) === wet-chan is now known as wet [10:32] <dsandy82> llutz, wanted to report to you on the issue [10:32] <bloodski> downloadin hfsplus === lordmortis is now known as lordmortis|away [10:32] <dsandy82> toyed around in the catalyst control panel, found scaling......setting scaling to the far right solved the black border issue [10:33] <stdisease> being told by a but that it's not intelligent makes you feel terrible! [10:33] <stdisease> *bot [10:33] <lvlint> where do i go to change the gnome-terminal hotkeys.. specifically ctrl+shift+pageup or pagedwn to switch tabs? [10:33] <llutz> dsandy82: so stupid proprietary driver issue? [10:33] <stdisease> lvlint in the profile options? [10:33] <fodder> wd dsandy82 [10:34] <Lonniebiz> llutz, I need to do it with rsync. The thing I don't understand is, when I back them up, I back them up to a sub folder of a home directory, but when I restore, it is not putting them back where they were (syncing), instead it is copying to another location. [10:34] <stdisease> lvlint, hmm Edit->Keyboard shortcuts === fodder is now known as Guest72430 [10:35] <Hakisho> Hi, has someone got a working sshfs mount through pam_mount (with password or keyfile) in 9.10? [10:35] <zslashz> hey [10:35] <dsandy82> llutz, perhaps not...to be honest it was like this and worse when i had the open source ati driver in place...plus I had a big "AMG unsupported hardware" watermark in the bottom [10:35] <Lonniebiz> llutz, I think I'm figuring out why right now. Thanks. [10:35] <zslashz> how do i run a .lnl file on ubuntu? === Visual`_ is now known as Visual` [10:36] <llutz> Lonniebiz: missing / at pathes [10:36] <stdisease> zslashz, you have got to figure out what applications works on .lnl files first, and then install it [10:36] <lvlint> thank you stdisease [10:36] <llutz> dsandy82: i never had any ATI but that sounds .... odd [10:37] <Lonniebiz> llutz, elaborate just a little. What do you mean by at paths, and what does the / you typed represent? Sorry you have to be so explicit with me. [10:37] <zslashz> stdisease : i know the files and it targets a server over vpn [10:37] <zslashz> stdisease : but i cant get it to work as it does under windows [10:37] <at> my wine doesnt recognize the sound card ... any help ? [10:38] <stdisease> Lonniebiz, '/' are directory separators on Unix, much like \ on windows [10:38] <dsandy82> llutz isn't it just? well lesson learned, black borders and image taking up too much or not enough screen with an HDMI connection might = scaling options. [10:38] <llutz> Lonniebiz: if you type "rsync -aux path/ /target/" it will create contents of "path" but not "path". if you use "rsync -aux path target/" it will copy "path/withallcontents" [10:38] <dsandy82> goodnight, and think you for the help [10:38] <stdisease> zslashz, what software do you usually use to open '.lnl' files? [10:38] <shazbotmcnasty> at, wut [10:38] <shazbotmcnasty> wait nvm [10:38] <shazbotmcnasty> sleep [10:39] <Nastya> hi everyone.Where can I disable acpi in ubuntu 9.10? [10:39] <zslashz> stdisease : its a brokarage program running on top of an oracle platform ..i installed it using crossoverlinux [10:39] <Lonniebiz> llutz, I did read that before in the man page; thanks for reminding me. I think I'll accomplish what I'm trying with your reminder. [10:39] <llutz> Lonniebiz: the trailing / makes a big difference [10:39] <at> shazbotmcnasty, i have Wine application on my ubuntu and its doesnt recognize the sound card [10:39] <stdisease> zslashz, and it's not functioning correctly with crossover/wine ? [10:39] <indus> also, generally red or blue in color flat looking ports , say 2 mm thick and 8 mm wide [10:39] <zslashz> stdisease : it installed successfully...but to operate i have to link the program to the server in another place using the .lnk file [10:39] <indus> oops late post [10:40] <indus> Nastya, in grub boot [10:40] <zslashz> stdisease : could i make a custom launcher on desktop to do that? or doesnt it support wine? === sdfsdf is now known as Researcher [10:40] <indus> Nastya, for temporary disable, during grub boot press e and enter line acpi=off to kernel line [10:41] <indus> !grub2 [10:41] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [10:41] <Nastya> indus: Where Can I find grub boot? in 8.10 it was in /boot/grub/menu.lst. But I unable to find this file in 9.10 [10:41] <indus> Nastya, yes hold ill tell you [10:41] <at> any one can help me with Wine application and sound card ? [10:42] <F15ch3r> hello [10:42] <stdisease> zslashz, perhaps I'm not really getting your point, you could try #winehq [10:43] <F15ch3r> the package of openswan in hardy is buggy and old.. this is what an openswan dev has told me.. [10:43] <skuzzel> hello all [10:44] <indus> Nastya, /etc/default/grub [10:44] <krishan> how can we use gtalk in ubuntu? [10:44] <F15ch3r> hardy support 2.4.x and the latest openswan has released 2.6.x.. where can I find the newest openswan version in ubuntu packages ? [10:44] <Nastya> indus: thank you [10:44] <RPG-Master> I'm trying to install the Nvidia 195 drivers but I keep getting this error: "installarchives() failed" [10:44] <indus> Nastya, no wait [10:44] <indus> Nastya, i am reading a bit [10:45] <remoteCTRL1> anyone familiar with freeradius? [10:45] <skuzzel> hmm a lot of people need help huh [10:45] <remoteCTRL1> i am getting this nasty "No authenticate method (Auth-Type) configuration found for the request: Rejecting the user" error but i cant seem to figure out why [10:45] <at> any body here knows about WINE application [10:46] <Researcher> can any one tell me about web cache proxy other then squid ? [10:46] <skuzzel> does anyone have experience getting ubuntu to recognize a wireless card [10:46] <stdisease> at, possibly, you didn't really ask specifically, also try #winehq [10:46] <remoteCTRL1> Researcher: polipo [10:46] <remoteCTRL1> skuzzel: what card is it? [10:47] <skuzzel> I don't know [10:47] <skuzzel> the one in my laptop heh [10:47] <jve> I'm trying to install the daily build of lucid server from a usb stick onto a computer without a harddisk but with a sd-card. But when i come to the partitioning part in the install the sd-card does not show up. Haven't the server install got support for sd-cards? [10:47] <Researcher> remoteCTRL1 : polipo work as transparent ? [10:47] <indus> Nastya, grub2 sucks, sorry i coudnt understand it [10:47] <remoteCTRL1> Researcher: afaik yes [10:48] <bloodski> is there a keyboard shortcut that can shutdown ubuntu (9.04)? [10:48] <tunji> hi. i have tried installing nvidia driver on 9.10 but keep getting this message "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-190_190.53-0ubuntu1~karmic~nvidiavdpauppa10_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 2"... can anyone advise... at the moment it is running in low graphics mode. [10:48] <Nastya> indus: have you known why they moved menu lst to /etc/default? [10:48] <stdisease> skuzzel, in the default environment, try System->Administration->Hardware Drivers [10:48] <HardDisk> jve: #ubuntu+1 for beta support [10:48] <remoteCTRL1> bloodski: not a default one but you can configure a keyboard shortcut in your preferences to execute shutdown [10:49] <bloodski> remoteCTRL1: care of telling me how, appreciate it if so [10:49] <indus> Nastya, they didnt move anything, grub2 is all new now, so menu.lst now appears ujnder /boot/grub/grub.cfg [10:49] <stdisease> If hardware support for your wlan card is possible it will present you with driver options, if not you will have to find out what hardware you have and download/compile the driver for the system [10:49] <remoteCTRL1> bloodski: gimme a sec [10:49] <indus> Nastya, open and see [10:49] <jve> HardDisk: thx i will try there [10:50] <bloodski> thx remoteCTRL1 [10:51] <tunji> can anyone help me install nvidia drivers? [10:52] <hateball> !nvidia [10:52] <stdisease> tunji, be a bit more specific, please [10:52] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:52] <RPG-Master> I'm trying to install the Nvidia 195 drivers but I keep getting this error: "installarchives() failed" [10:52] <skuzzel> h [10:52] <skuzzel> hmm [10:52] <indus> can anyone help me edit the grub.cfg file [10:52] <HardDisk> tunji, click system/admin/hardware drivers/enable the Nvidia driver you want. [10:52] <RPG-Master> And now I can't go back to the 180 drivers :( [10:52] <indus> i need to make changes [10:52] <remoteCTRL1> bloodski: go to system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts then click on add, name it enter shutdown -h into the command line then click ok, after that highlight the net shortcut in the list by clicking on it and press your keys->done [10:52] <nmvictor> indus: what about it? [10:52] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: whats the problem? [10:52] <tunji> HardDisk: none are listed... [10:53] <tunji> HardDisk: it says no proprietary drivers found [10:53] <indus> nmvictor, i want to add line acpi=off to the kernel line [10:53] <indus> nmvictor, but it says do not edit this file , so what the hell should i edit [10:53] <skuzzel> Hmm well that didn't seem to work [10:53] <stdisease> indus, add that to /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub2 [10:53] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: what does the command lspci | grep vga return? [10:53] <remoteCTRL1> i need help with freeradius pls! [10:53] <sambru> hey there [10:54] <piotr_> asdfasdf [10:54] <piotr_> d [10:54] <morena> hola [10:54] <piotr_> test [10:54] <sambru> we can see that, piotr [10:54] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: nothing [10:54] <nmvictor> is their anyone here using lisp and generally an emacs pro i.e he could help me debug my .emacs file? [10:54] <piotr_> ok. sorry [10:54] <indus> stdisease, so copy paste the ubuntu entry from grub.cfg to /etc/default/grub and edit it? [10:54] <stdisease> piotr_, stop that for the love'a.. [10:54] <morena> kien eres [10:54] <RPG-Master> So, no help for me? :( [10:54] <sambru> was just responding, in case you weren't sure :) [10:54] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: do lspci again without the grep pls and pastebin it [10:54] <piotr_> im first time here [10:54] <indus> RPG-Master, what happened [10:54] <morena> habla een español [10:54] <piotr_> very sorry [10:55] <remoteCTRL1> !es morena [10:55] <indus> !hi | piotr_ [10:55] <ubottu> piotr_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [10:55] <nmvictor> indus: i was helping someone yesterday, with something to do with grub.cfg, you havent told me your prob [10:55] <sambru> anyone been running chrome on karmic and having crash issues? [10:55] <RPG-Master> indus: I'm trying to install the Nvidia 195 drivers but I keep getting this error: "installarchives() failed" [10:55] <RPG-Master> And now I can't go back to the 180 drivers :( [10:55] <remoteCTRL1> whats ubottus short for spanish? [10:55] <muhku_> Hi all! [10:55] <indus> nmvictor, actually i need to edit the kernel line in one of the ubuntu entries [10:55] <stdisease> indus, no, add that to the line that says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" then 'sudo update-grub2' [10:55] <indus> nmvictor, like adding some line acpi=off [10:56] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3c3f9e8 [10:56] <muhku_> I got problem with ubuntu 9.10 and my sound dont work [10:56] <muhku_> can anyone help me [10:56] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: k, just a sec [10:56] <morena> hola [10:56] <indus> stdisease, is /et/default/grub a directory? [10:56] <remoteCTRL1> !ask | muhku_ [10:56] <ubottu> muhku_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:56] <skuzzel> I think I have a broadcom wireless card, and I can't get ubuntu to recognize it [10:56] <stdisease> indus, it's a text file [10:56] <remoteCTRL1> !es > remoteCTRL1 [10:56] <ubottu> remoteCTRL1, please see my private message [10:56] <stdisease> indus, just try and edit it you'll see [10:57] <morena> qe hableis en español joder [10:57] <remoteCTRL1> !es | morena [10:57] <ubottu> morena: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [10:57] <remoteCTRL1> morena: nos disculpamos per no:P [10:57] <stdisease> morena, no hablemos espanol aqui, try #ubuntu-es :) [10:57] <morena> hombre uno hablando en espanoñol [10:57] <littlegreen> RPG-Master where did you get those drivers from? [10:58] <rww> ubottu: es | morena [10:58] <ubottu> morena: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [10:58] <morena> hola [10:58] <indus> stdisease, aah ok there i add acpi=off ok nice [10:58] <RPG-Master> littlegreen: google "nvidia ppa" [10:58] <RPG-Master> first link [10:58] <stdisease> indus, :) [10:58] <nmvictor> indus: just edit, try to overide the warning at u\your own peril, i had a serious kernel panic that forced me to edit it, now things are good, remember you can always revert your changes if worse gets to worst.Only that for yesterday, the one i was assisting couldnt save the file, alot to do with extra permissions i guess [10:59] <user23> hi, someone here can help with via chrome 9 drivers ? [10:59] <skuzzel> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize a broadcom wireless card? [10:59] <stdisease> skuzzel, depends what make your card is [10:59] <stdisease> what model [10:59] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: ok you got two ways, either you install envy and have it install the driver automatically or you download the driver from nvidia.com and isntall it yourself, its not that hard actually... [10:59] <indus> stdisease, and to add custom i go to /etc/grub.d/40_custom right? [10:59] <muhku_> Can anyone help me with my problem? Sounds dont work... [11:00] <skuzzel> I will try and find out and be back [11:00] <remoteCTRL1> skuzzel: you might need a fiormware there, what model ist it? [11:00] <indus> skuzzel, ask ubuntu nicely and pray :) or use the system>admin>harware drivers [11:00] <stdisease> indus, right, those will be pasted into grub.cfg as is [11:00] <skuzzel> I tried that indus but it didn't work [11:00] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: thanks.. i'll try envy [11:00] <user23> hi, someone here can help with via chrome 9 drivers ? [11:00] <indus> stdisease, but have to run update grub too always? [11:00] <littlegreen> RPG-Master I realy wouldn't do that if I were you. Download drivers from nvidia.com or via your Hardware Drivers applet in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers. Drivers in "some webpage" are not reliable. [11:00] <muhku_> Can anyone help me with my problem? Sounds dont work... [11:00] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: good luck with it!:) [11:01] <sambru> NVidia's drivers on their website have worked pretty good for me [11:01] <stdisease> skuzzel, see if you can dig up something by searching 'apt-cache search broadcom' [11:01] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: is it envycore i install? [11:01] <indus> RPG-Master, stop using ppas [11:01] <littlegreen> RPG-Master what's your NVidia Card? [11:01] <stdisease> indus, right [11:01] <indus> oh he left [11:01] <remoteCTRL1> muhku_: what "does not work" mean, can you specify what you are doing and what the result is? [11:01] <stdisease> indus, you don't have to if you edit grub.cfg dirrectly though [11:02] <indus> stdisease, ok thanks a lot, i dont use grub2 but many have questions, so iam now ready to sc*ew their systems [11:02] <Ox0000> What is the process controlling my webcam? I'm gonna kill it. [11:02] <stdisease> indus, heh [11:02] <indus> stdisease, that file is not meant to be edited it says clearly [11:02] <indus> stdisease, but thats a fake warning i always believed [11:02] <stdisease> indus, well 'not meant to' means different things for different people, hehe [11:02] <indus> system wont explode as far as i know [11:02] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: do sudo apt-cache search envy and sudo apt-get install all the three packages that search returns [11:03] <indus> stdisease, and the explanation why it should not be edited does not exist :) [11:03] <skuzzel> stdisease it said to use fwcutter [11:03] <user23> hi, someone here can help with via chrome 9 drivers ? [11:03] <indus> user23, via chrome 9 what is it [11:03] <skuzzel> which I already downloaded and installed and it didn't help [11:03] <muhku_> I mean that i cant just hear anything... I've tried downlaod drivers but dont get these work.... [11:03] <indus> user23, isnt that driver built into the system [11:03] <stdisease> indus, for most cases because of automatic regeneration & overwriting your changes [11:04] <remoteCTRL1> indus: nope that warning is for serious edit the /etc/default/grub filoe instead [11:04] <grub_problems> hello - I have ubuntu 9.10 installed in windows. Grub no longer loads it, just takes me to grub command prompt. any ideas? [11:04] <indus> remoteCTRL1, tell me what happens if i edit [11:04] <remoteCTRL1> indus: it will be overwritten next time you update your kernel [11:04] <indus> remoteCTRL1, hmmmmmmmmm [11:04] <stdisease> grub_problems, ubuntu 9.10 installed in windows? how does that work?? [11:05] <skuzzel> okay I think I have a brcm94311mcg broadcom wireless card, any tips on getting ubuntu to recognize it? [11:05] * indus is trying to think how that might affect boot [11:05] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: SystemError: installArchives() failed [11:05] <remoteCTRL1> indus: or install anything that installs itself into the kernel and thus executes grub commands after that [11:05] <user23> indus, no, the buit in driver dosent work well [11:05] <grub_problems> put the cd in - then it installs as dual boot. [11:05] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: that's what i get when i try to install the driver [11:05] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: when doing what? [11:05] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: hardware drivers [11:05] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: erm... is that a clean fresh install we are talking about or have you been tinkering alreaqdy? [11:06] <indus> remoteCTRL1, so lets say it overwrites the cfg when kernel is updated, how will it harm ? [11:06] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: system/admin/hazrdware drivers [11:06] <indus> user23, do you have the drivers downloaded? [11:06] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: i tinkered... [11:06] <remoteCTRL1> indus: it will not consider the changes you made previously anymore? but i see no point in not editing /etc/default/grub anyways;) [11:06] <indus> remoteCTRL1, aah i can live with that [11:07] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: have you already installed anything there? [11:07] <indus> remoteCTRL1, but thanks anyway :) [11:07] <user23> indus, yes , installed it, and it gives me blank on startup screen [11:07] <remoteCTRL1> indus: why wouldnt you edit the proper file? :D [11:07] <indus> ill change it again :D remoteCTRL1 edit [11:07] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: nope, nothing can install... always giving same error [11:07] <grub_problems> so, how can I start ubuntu from grub command prompt? [11:07] <AdvoWork> my /opt/ directory is getting full 99%, i keep deleting stuff, but something is writing back to it, i had it down to 95% of a 200G HD, and it keeps going back up. How can i find out whats currently filling it? [11:07] <indus> remoteCTRL1, iam a bit lazy and i have the menu.lst hangover :D [11:07] <remoteCTRL1> tunji gimme a sec [11:07] <tuxx> Hello. The Server-edition installer doesn't support raid as I've understood, hence I need the Alternative-installer. But is the alternative-installer setup with the server-presets, eg. kernel-version etc., all the stuff that makes the server-edition interesting... [11:08] <indus> grub_problems, you probably cant, try typing continue there [11:08] <remoteCTRL1> indus: takes like 5 minutes to figure out the basics for grub2;) [11:08] <skuzzel> okay actually I have a broadcom wireless card, bcm94311mcg model, any tips getting ubuntu to recognize it? [11:08] <indus> remoteCTRL1, yes i have understood it now ,thanks to stdisease and you too [11:08] <LSD|Ninja> skuzzel: remove it and replace it with something that doesn't suck :P [11:08] <skuzzel> haha [11:08] <skuzzel> It's a cheap laptop though [11:08] <sambru> lol @ ninja [11:08] <indus> user23, blank screen on startiing system? [11:08] <remoteCTRL1> indus: hehehe you are welcome my freind [11:09] <skuzzel> and I have a usb card I'm on right now if it comes down to it, I could just stick with it [11:09] <user23> indus, yes [11:09] <sambru> could you get a cheap usb wireless card skuzz? [11:09] <sambru> aha - you already have one! :P === Wolf is now known as Guest47289 [11:09] <LSD|Ninja> I'm only half joking. Replacing the Broadcom wifi card in my sisters laptop was quite possibly the single best upgrade I ever made to it [11:09] <indus> user23, due you have a terminal? [11:09] <grub_problems> but why would it not be loading automatically anymore when i select 'ubuntu'? [11:09] <stdisease> skuzzel, you have something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153683 - my broadcom wlan runs fine though [11:10] <indus> grub_problems, grub messed up, try live cd to recover [11:10] <stdisease> skuzzel, google is your friend in any case [11:10] <skuzzel> yeah I'v come up with stuff for version 7.10 [11:10] <grub_problems> indus: ok, so i boot on live cd, then what? i am using the same laptop in windows now, can i fix it from here? [11:10] <indus> iam tired of hardware manufacturers not supporting drivers with linux [11:11] <LSD|Ninja> skuzzel: If you have network access by some other means then you may be able to get the broadcom working through the restricted drivers manager [11:11] <indus> grub_problems, how can you fix grub from windows? is this a wubi insrtall? [11:11] <grub_problems> yes [11:11] <indus> grub_problems, then forget it, i suggest you reinstall [11:11] <indus> grub_problems, wubi aint that great [11:11] <grub_problems> argh...ok [11:11] <indus> grub_problems, in any case, need the live cd which will boot into ubuntu [11:12] <indus> windows has notinh to do with it [11:12] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: what does sudo apt-get -f install return? [11:12] <indus> grub_problems, but i think its difficult to repair a wubi grub problem [11:12] <Lantizia1> Would you say (package versioning wise) Hardy is to Lenny, as Dapper is to Etch? [11:12] <indus> can anyone else suggest [11:12] <grub_problems> thanks indus, will try live cd. the last time i was in ubuntu, i mounted windows but did not umount, could that be it? [11:13] <indus> grub_problems, mounted windows?> how [11:13] <brainbox> hey guys, anyone here ever been so evil to want to enforce banners on all their virtual hosting users? How would one want to... if they were an evil person [11:13] <stdisease> grub_problems, boot from the live CD, then invoke grub-install on your HD device [11:13] <brainbox> lol... [11:13] <remoteCTRL1> bazhang: hi dude, happen to have experience on freeradius? [11:13] <indus> heh 'invoke' [11:13] <grub_problems> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/win [11:13] <stdisease> indus, s/he probably means mounted the partition [11:13] <grub_problems> i mean windows partition [11:13] <indus> grub_problems, no that wont cause grub issues [11:13] <remoteCTRL1> brainbox: best ask in #httpd [11:13] <brainbox> ty [11:14] <remoteCTRL1> brainbox: np [11:14] <stdisease> grub_problems, what would cause issues if you tried to install another OS after [11:14] <indus> grub_problems, use live cd and do a sudo grub-install /dev/device [11:14] <indus> but iam wondering about the stage1 and steps of grub 1 [11:14] <indus> whats that for grub 2 [11:14] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9e435d2 [11:15] <_dsl> i have an aging Freesco computer that i'd like to replace with an ubuntu box. It would need to be able to accept incoming dial up connections and run an ftp server. the latter seems straightforward but what would i need to accept connections? [11:15] <indus> remoteCTRL1, what are the steps to repair grub2 [11:15] <AdvoWork> ive ive got a massive directory, ie 20gb, is there a way I can just quikcly delete this? it takes ages using rm -r [11:15] <remoteCTRL1> indus: lowl? how would i know what needs fixing?;) [11:16] <stdisease> _dsl, you need the right hardware and the driver to support it and the software to accept the connections and run the appopriate actions [11:16] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: that acrtually looks like it fixed it now but there are some lines of the output missing, right? [11:16] <johntramp> hi. when visiting sites like www.reddit.com my firefox freezes for about 10 seconds or so. anyone know why this is? [11:16] <skuzzel1> Hey I just wanted to say thanks to lsdninja and std [11:16] <indus> remoteCTRL1, i mean for exsample grub error 15\ [11:16] <skuzzel1> Third try was the try with the drivers manager [11:16] <remoteCTRL1> indus: what are you actually trying to accomplish? what does not work? [11:16] <skuzzel1> or the charm rather [11:16] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: that's all that was shown ... [11:17] <remoteCTRL1> indus: and btw sudo apt-get purge grub2 && sudo apt-get install grub is also an option ... last ressort tho... [11:17] <indus> remoteCTRL1, i have no problems ,but lets say grub cant find my boot stage [11:17] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: for my taste that looks like stuck... what happens if you execute exactly the same command again? [11:17] <indus> user23, hi is this ubuntu 8.04? [11:18] <user23> indus, ubuntu 9.04 [11:18] <remoteCTRL1> indus: like stage 1.5? in that case thats probably because its not there, just execute grub-install and then update-grub, that should fix it [11:18] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: same output [11:19] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: that is really odd... [11:19] <indus> remoteCTRL1, are you telling me,grub 2 doesnt suffer from the same problems grub 1 had? like erro 15 or error 22 etc [11:19] <remoteCTRL1> tunji i guess if you restart your computer youll get stuck in a low graphics mode again... [11:19] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: yes [11:19] <remoteCTRL1> indus: frankly spoken i have not rehearsed grub error codes;) [11:19] <_dsl> stdisease: :D it'll be using a zoom modem so drivers etc shouldn't be a problem hopefully. what software would i need installed (some sort of router I guess?) [11:19] <indus> user23, have you tried googling then got tired and ended up here ?:) [11:19] <indus> remoteCTRL1, hehe i did [11:20] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: i think i'll try a fresh install... and won't muck about with third-party repos ;)# [11:20] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: thanks for all your help [11:20] <indus> user23, did you compile the via drivers? [11:20] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: the problem is that your system is "hanging" in some undefined package status, this has as a consequence that not only the graphics driver is not working but als that you cannot install/uninstall anything else... [11:20] <user23> indus, compile ? [11:20] <indus> user23, ok do 1 thing, check errors in /var/log/Xorg.log [11:20] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: if it is a fresh isntall i suggest you just do it once more... [11:21] <indus> user23, can you paste it , type cat /var/log/Xorg.log [11:21] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: np:) [11:21] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: yeah, it was a frsh install... that i then mucked up! [11:21] <indus> down with grub 2, hail grub 1 :) [11:21] <stdisease> _dsl, something like ipppd I suppose [11:21] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: well sh** happens, just install it once more, takes like 20 min;) [11:21] <remoteCTRL1> indus: rofl [11:22] <remoteCTRL1> freeradius, anybody PLEASE? [11:23] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: before i do reinstall... would you advise not to use playdeb.net? [11:24] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: frankly spoken i have no clue what that is? [11:24] <user23> indus, u want the log file ? [11:24] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: ah, ok... it's a third-party repo with games basically... maybe i should just stick to games in the official ubuntu repos... [11:25] <tunji> remoteCTRL1: anyway... off to reinstall. thanks once again :) [11:25] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: i dont think that is the issue... [11:25] <remoteCTRL1> tunji: np and good luck this time! [11:26] <xguru> has anyone got the blackberry software cd to install in ubuntu? [11:26] <user23> indus, u want the log file ? [11:26] <xguru> indus, thanks for the help the other day! sound is working great! [11:27] <_dsl> stdisease: thanks...reading [11:27] <bloodski> i got this hfs formatted drive that i need to access in ubuntu 9.10, sudo chmod says fs is read-only, is there anyway of changing permissions so i can access some of the dirs on that drive? [11:29] <indus> xguru, what help [11:29] <indus> who are you , i dont remember you [11:29] <indus> :D [11:29] <indus> user23, yes i want [11:29] <indus> !paste | user23 [11:29] <ubottu> user23: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:31] <xguru> indus, maybe a week ago you helped me with my sound muting every time i rebooted. After i figured it out you went idle before i could say thanks :) i had to "alsactl store" and then add the "alsactl restore" in the system startup application [11:32] <indus> xguru, aah hmm [11:32] <indus> hehe nice [11:32] <indus> sometimes, people also forget to clean their ears :) that helps sometimes [11:32] <Lantizia1> Would you say (package versioning wise) Hardy is to Lenny, as Dapper is to Etch? [11:33] <xguru> :) [11:33] <indus> user23, hi did you paste? [11:33] <indus> xguru, have any more questions? [11:33] <indus> hth [11:33] <user23> indus, im trying to send it to ya [11:33] <indus> user23, yes just give me the url [11:33] <bloodski> i got this hfs formatted drive that i need to access in ubuntu 9.10, sudo chmod says fs is read-only, is there anyway of changing permissions so i can access some of the dirs on that drive? [11:33] <indus> user23, you know the process? [11:34] <thwapp> o/ Anyone about who might be willing to help figure out a sound issue? [11:34] <xguru> indus, nah not really....i'm currently looking up how to install the Blackberry software in ubuntu. This way i can create themes and such [11:34] <user23> indus, no [11:34] <indus> user23, have no fear, [11:35] <sheepz> cat --help [11:35] <sheepz> whoops [11:35] <indus> user23, ok paste the contents there, then click on send , then the page refreshes, and you get a new url, copy and psate the url here [11:35] <stdisease> sheepz, cat --haaalp [11:35] <Cybert1nus> how can I add a module to my initrd? I've added them in /etc/modules and ran update-initramfs -k all -u, but they still aren't loaded during boot. What am I doing wrong? [11:36] <avelldiroll> Hello, I remember a website that listed the changelog of the last added packages to the repositories, but I can't find it again ... does this ring a bell to anybody ? [11:36] <thwapp> Anyone about who might be willing to help figure out a sound issue? [11:36] <erUSUL> Cybert1nus: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules [11:36] <tasslehoff> how do I change my username? guess I want to change username, name of home folder accordingly, and all file permissions [11:36] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: man usermod [11:37] <stdisease> thwapp, just describe and maaybe someone might be able to assist [11:37] <stdisease> *maybe [11:37] <Cybert1nus> erUSUL: ah thnx, that looks like the correct file indeed. Gonna add them there :) [11:37] <stdisease> although mayybe is more like it... [11:37] <stdisease> *maaybe even.. [11:37] <Cybert1nus> erUSUL: but Busybox doesn't have an editor, so I need to reboot to a live CD first [11:37] <bloodski> is there anyway of making a mounte filesystem that's read-only, have read/write permissions? tried forcing it in fstab, but didnt help [11:38] <erUSUL> bloodski: if the driver does not support rw operaton you can not change that [11:38] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: yeah. this changes only username, so I guess the rest would have to be done manually. thanks. [11:38] <user23> indus, the url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379001/ [11:38] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: true. but you only have to move a directory. easy [11:39] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: sudo mv /home/olduser /home/newusername [11:39] <stdisease> tasslehoff, or supply the --home/-d options to usermod [11:39] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: i would do all of this in recovery mode [11:39] <stdisease> --home -m [11:40] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: yeah, and I don't need to change permissions, since my uid is the same? [11:40] <ben_q> hello, which program can I use to create an iso of a video dvd? diskdump does not remove the copy-protection and the iso is thus not playable on a mediatank :( [11:40] <stdisease> tasslehoff, rtfm really, 'man usermod' [11:40] <thwapp> LOL.. Ok.. I'm fairly new to ubuntu... It took me quite a bit to get the system setup.. running an EVGA 780i SLI Mainboard with an Intel Q9400 proc, 4 gb ram, and an nVidia GeForce GTX 260 Maxcore. I've somehow managed to get the drivers for everything but the on-board sound card installed and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. Ubuntu autodetected something, but I have no idea what it's done, or how to even look i [11:40] <obscurant1st> yesterday i asked here which is the file to be edited for changing the boot menu in grub2 [11:40] <obscurant1st> well it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg [11:40] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: that's my thinking yes [11:40] <stdisease> tasslehoff, your uid is supposed to stay the same unless you change it [11:40] <tasslehoff> stdisease: yep :) [11:40] <stdisease> -u/--uid [11:41] <tasslehoff> stdisease: I know. I just wondered if file permissions are okay with the username changing [11:41] <erUSUL> ben_q: dvd95? [11:41] <ben_q> dvd95 seems to make the iso's smaller [11:41] <EvilDennisR> tasslehoff: file permissions should be fine if the username is changing and not the uid [11:41] <stdisease> tasslehoff, ah totally, as you seem to have figured out [11:42] <tasslehoff> stdisease: yep :) [11:42] <tasslehoff> stdisease: EvilDennisR: erUSUL: thanks :) [11:43] <indus> user23, nice log file :) give me some time to read it === lordmortis|away is now known as lordmortis [11:44] <thwapp> Well, either I didn't describe something right, or nobody can help me.. either way, I'm giving up for the night and crashing.. night... [11:44] <indus> user23, how did you install the driver [11:45] <Lonniebiz> Using rsync, lets say I back up drives c and d on a windows machine, to and ssh linux server. After this, I decide that I want to restore drive c and d so that they are in sync with the backup. How do I specify the "root" destination with a cygwin path? [11:45] <indus> user23, also paste for me /var/log/Xorg.0.log [11:47] <Cybert1nus> erUSUL: I added the needed modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and ran update-initramfs -k all -u. The modules still aren't loaded :( [11:47] <erUSUL> Cybert1nus: then i dunno ... [11:48] <indus> user23, hello? [11:48] <Cybert1nus> erUSUL: ok. Thnx though :) [11:48] * indus sigh [11:48] <Lonniebiz> Would i just be /cygdrive/ alone? I don't want to screw anything up. [11:48] <Cybert1nus> anybody else knows how to add a module to an existing initrd? [11:48] <erUSUL> Cybert1nus: np [11:48] <indus> rww, hey [11:48] <user23> indus, sudo ./vinstall. i think i just need working drivers, ive searched the net, many have problems with via's cards [11:49] <EvilDennisR> Lonniebiz: if /cygdrive/ has the same contents as c: -- then yeah [11:50] <EvilDennisR> Lonniebiz: On your windoze machine, rsync -avz linux:/path/to/c/ /cygdrive/ [11:50] <Lonniebiz> EvilDennisR: No, C would be /cygdrive/C [11:50] <jiohdi> anyone know how to find screensaver for UNR? [11:50] <EvilDennisR> Lonniebiz: sure [11:50] <indus> user23, give me the /var/log/Xorg.0.log [11:50] <indus> user23, paste [11:50] <Lonniebiz> EvilDenisR: I want both drive c and d restored. [11:50] <indus> user23, will have more details [11:51] <EvilDennisR> Lonniebiz: rsync -avz linux:/path/to/c/ /cygdrive/C/ && rsync -avz linux:/path/to/d/ /cygdrive/D/ [11:51] <administrator_> hello everybody [11:51] <EvilDennisR> !hi [11:51] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! === fluorine is now known as \0B5E55ED [11:52] <EvilDennisR> heh, I haven't been in here in like a year and that still works [11:52] <EvilDennisR> !hi -> administrator_ [11:52] <EvilDennisR> hm.. [11:52] <jarle> is there a script that will be run when X starts no matter if I use KDE/kdm or Gnome/gdm? So far it seems like neither ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession is executed in a standard kubuntu startup? [11:52] <Lonniebiz> EvilDennisR: I'm trying to avoid having to list all drives, because I won't always know all the drives that were included in the backup, but I want my command to restore all drive included in the backup. [11:53] <Lonniebiz> EvilDennis: do think having just /cygdrive/ alone will do just that? [11:53] <EvilDennisR> Lonniebiz: So if linux:/path/to/ contains directories C/ and D/, then you could do rsync linux:/path/to/ /cygdrive/ [11:54] <Lonniebiz> EvilDennisR: Cool; thanks. [11:55] <Juanma> My new ubuntu wallpaper http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3613/saferedirect.png [11:55] <Lantizia1> I take it migration from 8.04 to 10.04 will be as smooth as smooth can be? [11:55] <EvilDennisR> Juanma: wtf [11:55] <EvilDennisR> /kick Juanma [11:57] <LSD|Ninja> Lantizia1: How smooth was the transition from 6.06 -> 8.04? Expect that. [11:57] <EvilDennisR> Lantizia1: IMHO, I always put /home/ on its own partition, and leave like ~5G or so for / -- That way I can just do a fresh install when new LTS releases come out -- The upgrades never have gone smooth for me =) [11:57] <rww> !ops | Juanma: nsfw link [11:57] <ubottu> Juanma: nsfw link: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [11:58] <administrator_> is there a real man here [11:58] <jrib> Juanma: that's inappropriate for this channel. Don't do it again. Please take a few minutes to read the channel guidelines [11:58] <EvilDennisR> administrator_: Yeah, its in /usr/bin/man [11:58] <jrib> !guidelines > Juanma [11:58] <ubottu> Juanma, please see my private message [12:00] <suigeneris> what does You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:loell/ppa to your system's Software Sources. mean? [12:01] <EvilDennisR> suigeneris: It adds a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list that are non-ubuntu packages [12:01] <indus> administrator_what do you want [12:01] <indus> suigeneris, loell is generally a trusted guy [12:02] <Sensiva> Hello, How can I get the total received and total transmitted of network interface? something other than /proc/net/dev [12:02] <suigeneris> EvilDennisR, do I type that exact line? [12:02] <indus> suigeneris, but its not officially supported ,neither is ubuntu responsible for any problems as a result of installing the ppa/software from the ppa [12:02] <suigeneris> indus, do I type that exact line? [12:03] <indus> suigeneris, what do you want to do? [12:03] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, what only monitoring standalone and not using GUI? [12:03] <EvilDennisR> suigeneris: uh, what exact line? [12:03] <indus> suigeneris, is this the gyachi messenger ppa? [12:03] <kjelle> In dpkg when you do 'dpkg -l', what does ii, rc and iHR stand for? [12:03] <Juanma> my new ubuntu wallpaper is mi nuevo fondo escritorio [12:03] <Juanma> http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3613/saferedirect.png [12:03] <Sensiva> psycho_oreos yeah, something that I can get in terminal [12:03] <suigeneris> indus, make my webcam work [12:03] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, hmm not sure to be honest [12:04] <indus> suigeneris, what is this ppa about? [12:04] <indus> suigeneris, how did you find it [12:04] <indus> suigeneris, anyways [12:04] <suigeneris> indus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1128335 [12:04] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, I know in GUi you can get things like gkrellm, and over network with ntop for example [12:04] <indus> suigeneris, yes just add the line ppa:loell/ppa [12:04] <EvilDennisR> kjelle: ii means installed, rc means removed, and I forget what ihr means, maybe remove --purge ? [12:05] <EvilDennisR> kjelle: I'd double check with my input though =) [12:05] <Lantizia1> Hey I made a user when Ubuntu installed... how can I remove that user from having sudo rightS? [12:05] <Lantizia1> is it just change the group it is in? [12:06] <indus> Lantizia1, go to system>admin>users and groups [12:06] <kjelle> EvilDennisR: okey, ty [12:06] <jrib> Lantizia1: remove him from the admin group, but make sure you have at least one user who can sudo... [12:06] <EvilDennisR> Lantizia1: ..or visudo [12:06] <Reverendo> hi all, I've got a server at ovh.com with ubuntu 9.1 and ovh's monolitic kernel installed over a software raid, /boot is inside the raid. I'm trying to change this kernel by official ubuntu kernel. I installed linux-server and grub2 but when I reboot the server I've got a kernel panic. I search forums, etc, and I get no solution. Can someone help me with this issue? [12:06] <indus> suigeneris, test your webcam with cheese, sudo apt-get install cheese [12:06] <EvilDennisR> Reverendo: whats the kernel panic sez [12:07] <Lantizia1> jrib: ok so just edit /etc/group ? I have given root a password instead [12:07] <EvilDennisR> Reverendo: can't find root or something? [12:07] <Lantizia1> indus: not using a gui [12:07] <jrib> Lantizia1: ugh, why did you give root a password? It's completely unnecessary [12:07] <Reverendo> EvilDennisR, tech people at ovh didn't give it to me, :-( [12:07] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, another thing comes to mind, is if you want to try some ncurses based apps for checking network stats is some of the ipcop binary addons.. not that you need to download them but there's mentioning of the names of various programs in which you can try and see what network tool out of that listing suits you [12:07] <indus> no one on irc says hi these days [12:08] <Lantizia1> EvilDennisR: that doesn't show my user - only that those in admin group have those rights [12:08] <jrib> !root > Lantizia1 [12:08] <ubottu> Lantizia1, please see my private message [12:08] <Lantizia1> jrib: because I did - get over it [12:08] <EvilDennisR> Lantizia1: visudo -- remove the line that says %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL if you're going to use root as root [12:08] <Sensiva> psycho_oreos I guess that would be too much for me :D [12:08] <jrib> Lantizia1: I'm giving you information, so you can understand why it's not that way by default [12:08] <Reverendo> It's like if kernel can start from /dev/md1 [12:08] <EvilDennisR> Lantizia1: or delgroup user admin [12:08] <Lantizia1> EvilDennisR: but equally I could just take it out of the admin group - and be as safe? [12:08] <Drechana> hi all, would anyone know a decent, easy to use, peice of software that I can use for a 8 bay multiwriter...its very old, runs on scsi and is made by TEAC [12:08] <Lantizia1> EvilDennisR: yeah - thanks :) [12:08] <indus> !test [12:08] <ubottu> hrm? [12:08] <EvilDennisR> Lantizia1: correct. [12:09] <Lantizia1> jrib: sorry but my mind is made up :P [12:09] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, what do you mean? I mean to just go test which apps from the names on that list may suit you? [12:09] <indus> !hi [12:09] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! === lordmortis is now known as lordmortis|away [12:10] <vishu> hi guys i am unbale to mount my cardreader as read write with mount [12:10] <Cybert1nus> how can I add a module to my initrd? [12:10] <vishu> any help? [12:10] <EvilDennisR> Reverendo: well it should be something like root (hd#,#) [12:10] <Sensiva> psycho_oreos I don't think I understand you very well, all I need is to get total Rx and Tx in terminal , for a bash script I am doing [12:10] <EvilDennisR> Reverendo: kernel /boot/vmlin-whatever root=/dev/mdsomething [12:11] <psycho_oreos> Sensiva, ahh you're making a bash script, what about the output from ifconfig? [12:11] <EvilDennisR> Reverendo: erm, root (md#,#) I mean (been a while since I've done software raid) [12:11] <Cybert1nus> Sensiva: ifconfig | head -n 7 | tail -n 1 (I'm not to sure about the 7 though) [12:11] <JoshuaL> Sensiva, did you know my company is named Sensiva? :P [12:11] <Sensiva> psycho_oreos I will try that [12:12] <Reverendo> ok, thanks, I'm going to try it [12:12] <Sensiva> Cybert1nus I will try that too [12:12] <Sensiva> JoshuaL heey nice to catch you again, how is it going :D [12:13] <vishu> mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 ~/Desktop/base3 [12:13] <vishu> its mounting but still as readonly [12:13] <nibbler> vishu, what is in dmesg? [12:14] <vishu> 1 sec [12:14] <wexzapa> Can anyone help me with Mathematica??? [12:15] <indus> dmesg | tail is better [12:15] <indus> gives relevant output vishu nibbler [12:15] <vishu> http://pastebin.com/m28b4d570 [12:15] <AzikaCorp> vishu: did you use your cardreader on windows before ? [12:15] <nibbler> indus, maybe. but i prefer not haveing tail decide what is relevant and what not :) [12:15] <vishu> yup [12:15] <ionut> hi.i have an template (with more than 10-15 pages) , and there are parts of it that i don't want to modify,i want them to remain like that. but there are also parts like page title , breadcrumbs, site's name...that i want to modify them.so in order to avoid errors , i've been thinking to create a form ( that a user can modify itself the : title ,etc) and once he finish to save them (they will be saved into a database) . is it a good idea ? [12:16] <AzikaCorp> vishu: you mean yes ? [12:16] <indus> nibbler, iam talking about ,plug devices and note changes [12:16] <nibbler> vishu, i'd say the fs is broken, copy your files, reformat [12:16] <indus> so for tat its better [12:16] <vishu> i checked if its working or not [12:16] <Albi> hello world [12:16] <nickkontos> hey guys, something crazy is happening, i have 9.10 and update manager is doing distribution upgrade without even asking for password! [12:16] <suigeneris> indus, I see that my webcam works. buy why can't skype find it? [12:17] <vishu> back days also it used to auto mount as readonly and afer changing useb ports it used to mount as writeable [12:17] <Albi> does anybody know if theres a mini version of ubuntu that is just the base files, kind of like the net install version of debian [12:17] <indus> suigeneris, ya skype hmm which version of ubuntu re you using? get the latest skype [12:17] <indus> suigeneris, the latest one will work [12:17] <tasslehoff> I have an issue with a cifs-drive. After scp'ing some files over, I can see them if I ssh into the machine, but not under my local mount point. [12:17] <suigeneris> indus, 9.10 [12:17] <indus> suigeneris, skype version? [12:17] <nibbler> vishu, ẃell, maybe the media is not too good anymore, or just a random eror in the fat [12:18] <indus> suigeneris, when you press test button in skype , what do u see [12:18] <vishu> no solution for it? [12:18] <suigeneris> indus, 2.0.0.72 [12:18] <AzikaCorp> vishu: sometimes, this probleme comes when you unplugged a card from windows [12:18] <vishu> i havent windows only after i messes with auto mount options in GUI [12:19] <indus> suigeneris, please this one http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ [12:19] <koltroll> I'm having trouble with the sound. It worked just fine for a while, then it started to play things and dubble speed and now when I listen at things it sounds.. really strange. Like the sounds is very very far away. [12:19] <suigeneris> aha now I see that skype can find it. weird, it didn't find yesterday [12:20] <xguru> is there a firefox addon that remembers your place on the page. Example: I scroll down the page halfway then click a link and when i hit the back arrow firefox loads previous page halfway down instead of at the top again? [12:20] <koltroll> I have tried to restart alsa. I guess restarting the computer would fix it, but I don't feel that should be necessary :) [12:20] <indus> suigeneris, ok good, anyways try the new skype [12:20] <nibbler> vishu, i'd say its not about options, i'd say the fs is broken. use fat-tools to fix, or just reformat after backing up [12:20] <Albi> xguru, ff should do that automatically [12:20] <indus> suigeneris, anyways, what was thaat ppa for? gyachi? [12:21] <suigeneris> indus, I think so [12:21] <vishu> i am a new bie [12:21] <xguru> Albi, i thought so, but it doesn't a good example is facebook. or nytimes.com [12:21] <Cybert1nus> how can I add a kernelmodule to my initrd? [12:21] <indus> suigeneris, think so? if oyu are not sure, why did you instal the ppa? [12:21] <vishu> until today it said wrong mount options unable to mount... [12:21] <Albi> xguru, fb is a messed up peice of rubbish, and probably doesnt do it on there because of all the dodgey javascripting [12:21] <suigeneris> indus, when I press the test button, I get a green screen with noise on it [12:21] <vishu> i cracked something and it says can't mount file [12:21] <suigeneris> indus, I didn't install it [12:22] <Sensiva> psycho_oreos thank you I got it [12:22] <indus> suigeneris, yes thats good [12:22] <AzikaCorp> vishu: how do you mount it ? [12:22] <Sensiva> Cybert1nus thank you, head is such a nifty tool [12:22] <suigeneris> indus, that's good how? [12:22] <indus> suigeneris, so download new skype and try, its a problem with v4l2 [12:22] <vishu> mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 ~/Desktop/base3 [12:22] <suigeneris> okay indus thanks a lot [12:22] <Cybert1nus> Sensiva: yw :) [12:22] <holaa> Hola [12:23] <Nastya> holaa: Hi [12:23] <xguru> Albi, thanks for the info. Your right. Google searches open to where i left of. Must be those two sites i noticed it on [12:23] <holaa> Speak Spanish? [12:23] <LordHawke13> Is there anyway I can enclose each LINE of output from `$ find <DIR>` in double-quotes? I need to put them through `$ stat -c%s <OUTPUT>` but stat won't do spaces unless the item is enclosed in parentheses. [12:23] <koltroll> Any help on how I could bugtest the sound issue would be appreciated! [12:23] <rww> !es | holaa [12:23] <ubottu> holaa: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [12:23] <Albi> xguru, sweet as, it's always facebooks fault [12:23] * xguru nods [12:23] <holaa> Spthanks [12:23] <vishu> AzikaCorp, ? [12:23] <elisa87> hi everybody [12:23] <holaa> gracias [12:24] <Albi> k bros, i think i found what i was lookin for maself ;) haha [12:24] <indus> suigeneris,64 bit system? [12:25] <vishu> is there a way to make a readonly device writable? [12:25] <suigeneris> 32 [12:25] <indus> suigeneris, start skype with this command LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype [12:25] <LordHawke13> I tried `$ for SIZES in `find <DIR>`; do stat -c%s "${SIZES}"; done` but for processes for each word and not each line. [12:25] <indus> suigeneris, the above command will solve the gree nvideo issue [12:25] <indus> suigeneris, try it [12:26] <indus> suigeneris, or download the newer skype version [12:26] <koltroll> I found some good reading on the ubuntu wiki, and have now installed backports! So I'll do a restart and try again! laters! [12:27] <Dr_Willis> vishu: depends on why its read only to begin with [12:27] <suigeneris> indus, when I install the newest version, I will not have the green screen problem anymore without that command? [12:27] <vishu> man how much time it takes for me to fix these things myself? [12:28] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, you're here!! Can you help me? [12:28] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13: depends on the problem. [12:28] <vishu> sowmya_, where are you from? [12:28] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, Is there anyway I can enclose each LINE of output from `$ find <DIR>` in double-quotes? I need to put them through `$ stat -c%s <OUTPUT>` but stat won't do spaces unless the item is enclosed in parentheses. [12:29] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, I tried `$ for SIZES in `find <DIR>`; do stat -c%s "${SIZES}"; done` but for processes for each word and not each line. [12:29] <nerea> i dont spik ingles [12:29] <vishu> sowmya_, A.P? [12:29] <Dr_Willis> that means very little to me. i tend to scripts not complex single line commands. [12:30] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13: im not clear on what the actual probl3m is. [12:30] <egoleo> hello [12:30] <egoleo> hello is there a way for me to know the last personn who accessed my linux and what he was doing on it? [12:30] <suigeneris> indus, now I get a black screen :S [12:30] <EvilDennisR> egoleo: last [12:30] <vishu> i think there is a way to get last login times [12:30] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis stat won't stat anything with a space in it's name or full path. [12:30] <alver_> Does anyone know how to disable the internal WiFi card in a notebook? This means not just stopping transmission of signals? [12:30] <egoleo> thnx [12:31] <EvilDennisR> egoleo: what he was doing, not so much, you could check his ~/.bash_history [12:31] <EvilDennisR> vishu: same deal, `last` [12:31] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, So I need to enclose the output in double-quotes. [12:31] <egoleo> ok thnx [12:31] <egoleo> but how do i know [12:31] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13: to handle spaces in filenames/paths you need to tack on quotes normally single quotes mey be better then double quotes [12:31] <egoleo> is the last dos the top ones [12:31] <EvilDennisR> alver_: ..use the wifi on/off switch physically on the netbook? [12:31] <Slart> LordHawke13: pipe it to sed 's/.*/"&"/g' [12:31] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, It's for a script. Each ";" would be a line return, but this is how it's written in the BASH history. [12:32] <EvilDennisR> egoleo: open a terminal, type last [12:32] <egoleo> done that [12:32] <vishu> u get all of it [12:32] <EvilDennisR> ..ok, and? [12:32] <LordHawke13> OH MY GOD IT WORKED!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! FIRE AWAY UBOTTU [12:33] <EvilDennisR> theres also w and who that will tell you who is currently logged in [12:33] <lorenzo> ciao [12:33] <egoleo> ok cool [12:33] <lorenzo> itali? [12:33] <egoleo> ok got it [12:33] <egoleo> thnx [12:33] <rww> !it | lorenzo [12:33] <ubottu> lorenzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [12:34] <alver_> Hello EvilDennisR, It is a notebook (an ageing Toshiba Satellite to be precise), not a netbook. I do not see an external switch for my card. [12:34] <lekefly> Is there a way to automate downloading of new series from a RSS feed and have trasmission figure out witch folder to download it to? [12:34] <lorenzo> ok grazie [12:34] <AzikaCorp> alver_: do you see any wireless card whae you type 'ifconfig' [12:35] <koltroll> Hm, no. Installing backports and restarting didn't help. Still no sound. [12:35] <EvilDennisR> alver_: ah, I thought you said netbook. Right clicking on network manager and unchecking wireless doesn't do it? === nathan__ is now known as skuzzel [12:36] <skuzzel> software center says that I have to waiting for other software managers when I don't have any open [12:37] <skuzzel> have to wait* [12:37] <alver_> Hello AzikaCorp, it says" UP Broadcom etc.". I know I have a Broadcom wifi card. [12:38] <AzikaCorp> alver_: ok. and what is exactlu the problem ? [12:38] <makadark> hola [12:38] <AzikaCorp> makadark: hello [12:39] <makadark> hello [12:39] <skuzzel> My software center is stuck saying that I have to wait for other software managers to quit when I don't have any open... any tips? [12:39] <suigeneris> indus, are you there? [12:40] <alver_> I want to add extra memory (the notebook only has 256 MB RAM) and the manual tells me to temporarily disable the wifi card and remove the battery before I start adding additional memory. Hence my question. [12:40] <indus> suigeneris, yes [12:41] <Florencio> hi [12:41] <tuntun> HAS THIS PAGE BEEN HIJACKED !? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ideas_in_preparation/ AFTER A FEW SECONDS IT IS REDIRECTING TO http://www.ukr.net/ [12:41] <genny75> ciao a tutti [12:41] <suigeneris> indus, I get black screen without LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so, should I write that in .bashrc or something? [12:42] <suigeneris> indus, it works like a charm with that [12:42] <indus> suigeneris, did you try the new skype [12:42] <mawst> Besides restarting Xorg, is there anything that needs to be done to make it load xorg.conf again? [12:43] <suigeneris> indus, I get black screen in the new one [12:43] <indus> do one thing, in a terminal type gstreamer-properties and under video set it to v4l1 [12:44] <tuntun> Anyone? [12:44] <indus> tuntun, for what [12:44] <indus> tuntun, what is the problem [12:45] <Dr_Willis> tuntun: i cant evn find a link to that URL you gave - the main page points to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ideas_in_development/ [12:45] <bazhang> tuntun, nice catch [12:45] <suigeneris> indus, I have v4l and v4l2 [12:45] <indus> suigeneris, select v4l [12:46] <indus> tuntun, lol yeah === JimmyJ is now known as JimmyJ|z [12:47] <suigeneris> indus, I still get black screen [12:47] <indus> hijacked indeed [12:47] <alver_> Hello AzikaCorp, anymore good ideas? [12:47] <indus> suigeneris, then i guess, use the ld preload line i gave you [12:47] <indus> suigeneris, dont know any other way [12:47] <Dr_Willis> I have to wonder how ideas in development differ from ideas in preparation.. 'im planning on planing on thinking of an idea?' [12:48] <Dr_Willis> :) [12:48] <indus> tuntun, mail to webmaster i guess [12:48] <koltroll> Anyone have any idea on how I can figure out what's wrong with my sound? [12:49] <koltroll> It did work perfectly for a while, I might add [12:49] <lorenzo> ma chè unaltro sito dv si parla ita ltre a #ubuntu.it? [12:49] <suigeneris> indus, thanks anyway [12:50] <Ford121> Hi [12:50] <Ford121> Hello [12:50] <Eleth> Does anyone have Thunderbird 3, Lightning and GDATA-provider working together fine on x86_64? I have them installed but GDATA provider doesn't load my calendars :/ [12:50] <suigeneris> indus, I wrote LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so in ~/.bashrc. is it okay if I source it or do I need to log out/in? [12:51] <Homere> I'm testing lucid lynx on Xen PV and I don't get upstart messages on the console (starting OpenSSH Server [OK]), only kernel log and upstart errors. [12:51] <indus> suigeneris, dont know [12:51] <rww> Homere: lucid discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1 [12:51] <Ford121> Hi, I tried to install phpmyadmin from the console but when I goto the URL it downloads a file called download [12:51] <Homere> rww: thanks [12:52] <Ford121> Hi, I tried to install phpmyadmin from the console but when I goto the URL it downloads a file called download [12:53] <tuntun> indus, i dont have a login for brainstorm so i can get the email from https://launchpad.net/~brainstorm-admins, so perhaps you or someone else could alert the webmasters. [12:53] <koltroll> running totem --debug file.mp4 doesn't give me any errors or anything about sound not working [12:53] <indus> tuntun, neither do i [12:53] <koltroll> (which kinda was a long shot I suppose) [12:53] <DasWu> \leave [12:53] <bazhang> tuntun, I am in the process of telling them [12:54] <bazhang> tuntun, thanks for catching that [12:54] <indus> drupal site, no wonder [12:55] <tuntun> bazhang, good on you for letting them know. [12:55] <indus> the redirect looked mongolian to me [12:55] <indus> !mn [12:55] <indus> no mongol channel ubuntu, hmm strange [12:55] <indus> they are very active with mongolian translation [12:56] <indus> !cn [12:56] <ubottu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [12:56] <paradoxuncreated> Hiya, I installed jackd to /usr but, os seem to expect it in /usr/local and gives me error msgs. Is there a path defined somewhere? [12:57] <indus> bazhang, why isnt there a mongolian channel? [12:57] <bazhang> indus, check the link from /msg ubottu loco === farner_ is now known as farner [12:58] <mawst> Ok so can someone point me in the direction of enabling vga mode for the console? [12:58] <Dr_Willis> !framebuffer [12:58] <ubottu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub [12:59] <indus> bazhang, hi, so if there is no loco team, there wont be an irc channel? [12:59] <bazhang> indus, that is Russian not Mongolian [12:59] <mawst> Thanks Dr_Willis [13:00] <indus> bazhang, the hacked page? nvm that, i am asking about the mongolian irc channel [13:00] <bazhang> indus, check the link [13:00] <mawst> hmm... [13:00] <mawst> Is that vesa Dr_Willis ? [13:00] <mawst> I'm using nvidia drivers. [13:00] * indus is checking [13:00] <Ayla> hello [13:01] <Ayla> I've a big problem x_x [13:01] <Caleb_Bot> OLa! [13:01] <indus> bazhang, what about that link? i checked but i dont see a mongolian loco team [13:01] <Ayla> I just installed karmic, it was working good [13:01] <Ayla> then I did apply updates, and the computer does not boot [13:01] <Dr_Willis> mawst: console dosent use the nvidia X driver.s. it uses the framebuffer drivers [13:02] <indus> bazhang, ok i see a loco team mongolian [13:02] <indus> bazhang, ok so they need to start it hmm [13:02] <indus> bazhang, and currently they dont have one [13:02] <indus> ok thank you bazhang [13:03] <Ayla> I can't even go to the rescue console [13:03] <mawst> Dr_Willis, what if I don't have a menu.lst where it says I should? [13:03] <mawst> :D [13:03] <Dr_Willis> mawst: learn to configure grub2 [13:03] <indus> !foo [13:03] <ubottu> bar [13:03] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 [13:03] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 === lordmortis|away is now known as lordmortis [13:03] <indus> mawst, need help with grub2? [13:03] <mawst> A bit it seems. [13:04] <Caleb_Bot> =| [13:04] <Dr_Willis> i dont find the conssole framebuffer worth messing with any more [13:04] <Shambat> I'm trying to run a make file, but it is complaining that there is no /lib/modules/<kernelnumber>/build file ... there is something called "build" in that folder, but its a link ... pointing at somewhere strange ... where should this link be pointing? [13:04] <Dr_Willis> I havent used it in ag4es [13:04] <indus> bazhang, sorry russian probably but the font i understand is cyrillic? [13:04] <mawst> That's the one I think I need. [13:04] <gamer> #back-track.de [13:06] <mawst> Cool beans. Trying this out brb [13:06] <Ayla> nobody knows ? [13:06] <indus> Ayla, know what [13:07] <Ayla> indus: about my pb [13:07] <lekefly> Is there a way to automate downloading of new series from a RSS feed and have trasmission figure out witch folder to download it to? [13:07] <owner> Кто русский [13:07] <indus> Ayla, ok from boot menu,select a previous kernel and boot [13:07] <Myrtti> !ru [13:07] <ubottu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [13:07] <Caleb_Bot> !not [13:07] <indus> Ayla, do you see any messages when it doesnt boot? [13:07] <Ayla> indus: there's only one kernel, 2.6.31-14-generic [13:07] <indus> Ayla, huh thats old [13:08] <Dr_Willis> lekefly: transmissions is rather basic - try a differnt torrekt [13:08] <indus> Ayla, the latest is 31.19 [13:08] <lekefly> Dr_Willis: do you know if its possible? [13:08] <indus> Ayla, ok do you reach a console? [13:08] <Ayla> indus: the kernel boots flawlessly, I didn't change it [13:08] <indus> Ayla, then what is the problem, [13:08] <Ayla> indus: but it stops during initialization [13:08] <Hcomp> How can I connect to wireless networks in ubuntu? [13:08] <indus> Ayla, initialixing what [13:08] <Dr_Willis> lekefly: with linux is is possible some hpw [13:09] <indus> Ayla, try removing the lines quiet and splash from grub and then boot [13:09] <lekefly> Dr_Willis: hpw? [13:09] <indus> bazhang, you thre? [13:09] <Simon1245> Hello indus and everyone else :) === nathan__ is now known as mafia [13:09] <indus> hey [13:09] <Ayla> indus: when I choose rescue console, the kernel loads, launch some programs (including fsck) but then it stops as if it was waiting for something to complete [13:09] <Caleb_Bot> mafia é!! [13:09] <bazhang> indus, yes? [13:09] <mafia> I'm having choppy streaming video in 9.10 any way to clean that up? [13:09] <indus> bazhang, no,i didnt see you respond to my messages [13:10] <indus> bazhang, hope you read [13:10] <Ayla> indus: but I won't have access to the rescue console, the only solution to modify something is using liveCD [13:10] <indus> read them i mean [13:10] <Caleb_Bot> !else [13:10] <bazhang> indus, if you wish to chat /join #ubuntu-offtopic please [13:10] <Caleb_Bot> quit [13:10] <mafia> ? [13:10] <Ford121> Hi, I tried to install phpmyadmin from the console but when I goto the URL it downloads a file called download [13:11] <nibbler> Ford121, do yu have php installed? === mafia is now known as skuzzzel [13:11] <Ayla> indus: it hangs during installation, but in verbose mode I can't see any error [13:11] <blackbear> where can i find out about a good implimentation of file encryption? [13:11] <chrislsp> AF [13:11] <Ford121> nibbler: I think so [13:11] <chrislsp> A [13:11] * Ford121 checks again [13:11] <skuzzzel> Is there a way to make streaming videos less choppy? [13:12] <adambuntu> i need to rip a bootable iso that is on my usb to an image file, how can i do that in ubuntu? [13:12] <Ford121> php5 is already the newest version. [13:12] <Ford121> so yes php is installed [13:12] <jackbrown> Hey can anybody help me to set my Webcam ? I have a LAptop Sony VAIO VGN-FE41S [13:12] <adambuntu> jackbrown, have you looked at cheese yet? the app is called cheese [13:13] <jackbrown> adambuntu noo [13:13] <adambuntu> jackbrown, check it out its in the software repo === geo is now known as geo05 [13:14] <Ford121> btw I tried to install phpmyadmin @ vps.gamerserv.co.uk/phpmyadmin [13:14] <jackbrown> adambuntu the problem is that the system do not recognize the webcam [13:14] <jackbrown> adambuntu chees isn't an application for cam ? [13:14] <adambuntu> jackbrown, yes it is [13:14] <Ayla> indus: without quiet and splash lines, there seems to be no error line, everything is loading fine, the only problem is that it hangs [13:14] <adambuntu> jackbrown, i use it [13:14] <jackbrown> adambuntu my problem is about to make my UBUNTU Koala recognize the cam [13:14] <Ayla> right after fsck [13:14] <cbx> Anyone using Nokia Phones in Linux? [13:14] <adambuntu> jackbrown, does it show up in lspci? [13:15] <Ford121> so can anyone help - I have php installed and apache2 [13:15] <jackbrown> adambuntu how I have to check [13:15] <Ford121> but phpmyadmin doesnt work [13:15] <Ford121> -.- [13:15] <adambuntu> jackbrown, go download cheese and start it up. see if it mounts your cam [13:15] <DavidJHeinrich> does anyone know if there is an EQ adjuster for Ubuntu? [13:15] <adambuntu> need some help with ripping an iso from usb [13:15] <moshiour> hello [13:15] <jackbrown> adambuntu doing that [13:16] <jackbrown> ADAMBUNTU NO WEBCAM FOUND [13:16] <adambuntu> jackbrown, ok calm down on the caps [13:16] <Dr_Willis> DavidJHeinrich: I woudl say check google for one that exists for 'linux' then see if theres a ubuntu packag4e for it - whatever that is. [13:17] <adambuntu> jackbrown, go to terminal, and type lspci [13:17] <moshiour> anybody using skype in ubuntu 9.10 [13:17] <jackbrown> adambuntu sorry [13:17] <_silvia_> ciao [13:17] <_silvia_> !list [13:17] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [13:17] <jackbrown> adambuntu done [13:17] <jackbrown> pastebin ? [13:17] <DavidJHeinrich> Dr_Willis: thank, what it is is that tool that adjusts bass/treble response [13:17] <adambuntu> jackbrown, does it show your cam? [13:17] <Ford121> so can anyone help - I have php installed and apache2 [13:17] <Ford121> but phpmyadmin doesnt work [13:17] <Ford121> Its installed @ vps.gamerserv.co.uk/phpmyadmin [13:17] <Ford121> It just downloads a file called download [13:18] <FloodBot1> Ford121: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:18] <johntramp> hi. when visiting sites like www.reddit.com my firefox freezes for about 10 seconds or so. anyone know why this is? [13:18] <Dr_Willis> DavidJHeinrich: means very little to me. Thers sound mixer controlls and features for Pulse audio in Ubuntu you an find. [13:18] <jackbrown> adambuntu seems that NO [13:18] <adambuntu> jackbrown, what kind of camera is it? you may need to go get and install drivers for it [13:18] <jackbrown> adambuntu it's a SOny Laptop [13:18] <DavidJHeinrich> Dr_Willis: Thank you [13:18] <lorenzo> ubuntu italy? [13:18] <adambuntu> jackbrown, it may not be supported either... some arent [13:18] <Pici> !it | lorenzo [13:19] <ubottu> lorenzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [13:19] <jackbrown> :( [13:19] <adambuntu> jackbrown, thats not telling me what kind of cam it is [13:19] <jackbrown> adambuntu where can i check === marco556 is now known as rex_mundi [13:19] <johntramp> jackbrown: lspci [13:19] <jackbrown> adambuntu wait a sec i'm going to the sony website to check the model exactly [13:19] <con-man> how do you kill a defunct process [13:19] <adambuntu> jackbrown, go to sony, and look up your model and serial number, then lo [13:19] <jackbrown> http://pastebin.com/d7b39a76e here is my lspci [13:19] <usuario_> FHIH [13:20] <tp43> ps [13:20] <tp43> killall nameofprocess [13:20] <usuario_> HOLA RUBEN [13:20] <jackbrown> it's SONY MOTION EYE [13:20] <adambuntu> jackbrown, is there linux drivers for it? [13:21] <jackbrown> adambuntu checking [13:21] <alex_> does anyone know where i can find deb files for mysql 5.1.34+? [13:21] <usuario_> FHIH [13:22] <Kartagis> indus, FYI, I wrote LD_COMMAND=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype in a .sh file and I am making the menu entry call that script [13:22] <jackbrown> adambuntu check here please http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=356854.msg2757233 [13:22] <indus> Kartagis, okie [13:22] <ddavids> still cant use dictionary offline... [13:23] <ddavids> can someone help pls? [13:23] <usuario_> HOLA ALEX [13:23] <Pici> !es | usuario_ [13:23] <ubottu> usuario_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [13:23] <INV4D5R> oi galera [13:24] <INV4D5R> bom dia a todos [13:24] <adambuntu> jackbrown, look at this...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289836&page=3 [13:24] <jari_> moi [13:24] <pedro3005> INV4D5R, bom dia [13:24] <jari_> die [13:24] <jari_> ok [13:24] <INV4D5R> gente eu tenho um problema [13:24] <pedro3005> INV4D5R, fala [13:24] <INV4D5R> com o desktop [13:24] <jari_> lol [13:25] <INV4D5R> ele não aparece [13:25] <jari_> moi [13:25] <jari_> hello [13:25] <alex_> !p | INV4D5R [13:25] <INV4D5R> fica uma tela cinza [13:25] <alex_> !br | INV4D5R [13:25] <ubottu> INV4D5R: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [13:25] <con-man> so if a process is defunct, and its parent process is "bash" what do I do next? [13:25] <con-man> cant just kill bash [13:25] <jari_> alex,who are you?? [13:25] <cristiano> ola [13:26] <con-man> "ps -fe | grep somedefunctprocess | awk '{print $3}'" returns the process "bash" [13:26] <INV4D5R> eu usava ubuntu no meu pc === cristiano is now known as Guest64572 [13:26] <alex_> jari_, why? [13:26] <lorenzo> ubuntu italy? [13:26] <vivek> Can anyone give me one good project so that i can develop it on linux with C or C++ ? or any idea about the project plz mail me that to nitk.vivekanand@gmail.com [13:26] <bazhang> INV4D5R, here is english only [13:26] <adambuntu> need assistance with ripping a live iso to an image file [13:26] <INV4D5R> eu neste momento estou no infocenter [13:26] <bazhang> INV4D5R, /join #ubuntu-br [13:26] <con-man> ffs [13:26] <alex_> !br | INV4D5R [13:26] <PingFloyd> vivek what project? [13:26] <INV4D5R> yes [13:26] <lorenzo> ubuntu italy? [13:26] <jari_> alex,do you speak finish?? [13:27] <alex_> jari_, no [13:27] <indus> vivek, please have a look at ubuntu.com [13:27] <bazhang> lorenzo, #ubuntu-it [13:27] <con-man> anyone? [13:27] <INV4D5R> i am speak english [13:27] <indus> vivek, noone here will give you like that [13:27] <jari_> where are you rfom?? [13:27] <pedro3005> hah [13:27] <bazhang> INV4D5R, did you have an ubuntu support question? [13:27] <adambuntu> jackbrown, did you see my link? [13:27] <pedro3005> bazhang, yeah it seems his desktop gets a gray color or something [13:27] <jackbrown> adambuntu yes i'm working on it [13:27] <adambuntu> jackbrown, kk [13:28] <indus> INV4D5R, problem with ubuntu? [13:28] <INV4D5R> um momento [13:28] <INV4D5R> no [13:28] <vivek> indus, its ok ... [13:28] <con-man> seriously, why is it so hard to get rid of a defunct process [13:28] <pedro3005> well this is a mess [13:28] <pedro3005> reminds me why i don't go to #ubuntu [13:28] <indus> vivek, in the ubuntu website, ther are links for contribution, maybe you can take up some ubuntu project [13:29] <INV4D5R> meu msn é :profetax5@hotmail.com [13:29] <adambuntu> can someone tell me what tool will rip a live iso to an iso file? [13:29] <indus> pedro3005, this is #ubuntu [13:29] <INV4D5R> alguem joga gta vice city? [13:29] <pedro3005> indus, i know [13:29] <Dr_Willis> adambuntu: you can use dd for that [13:29] <con-man> 1400 users an no answers [13:29] <bazhang> INV4D5R, not here, dont paste that [13:29] <Dr_Willis> adambuntu: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/bubba/whateber.iso [13:29] <adambuntu> Dr_Willis, dd? [13:29] <Dr_Willis> adambuntu: yes 'dd' === lordmortis is now known as lordmortis|away [13:29] <adambuntu> Dr_Willis, its a usb live iso [13:30] <pedro3005> INV4D5R, vai pro canal #ubuntu-br que aqui não se fala português [13:30] <vivek> indus, thanks i will have a look on it [13:30] <indus> i see you laters [13:30] <indus> bye [13:30] <con-man> maybe if I type "kill -9 4337" enough times it will work [13:30] <INV4D5R> valeu [13:30] <con-man> seriously, why is it so hard to get rid of a defunct process [13:30] <IP-v6> hello [13:30] <IP-v6> how can i install suggested packages by apt-get ? Does install parameter install packages with suggested packages? [13:30] <pedro3005> con-man, kill dash nine it [13:30] <adambuntu> IP-v6, use sudo apt-get install [13:31] <con-man> pedro3005, been there done that [13:31] <BluesKaj> howdy [13:31] <pedro3005> con-man, so get manly and erase it's PID folder on /proc ? actually i don't know if that'd do anything i'm just here babbling stupidness [13:32] <PingFloyd> you can't kill a defunct process because it is already dead [13:32] <PingFloyd> init will eventually reap it and free up its process entry [13:32] <con-man> then how do I Get it off my monitor [13:33] <con-man> its dead, on my monitor [13:33] <pedro3005> con-man, idk, restart X [13:33] <PingFloyd> if you want to clear it from the process table sooner, you can kill it's current parent [13:33] <con-man> wtb task manager with end process button [13:33] <jackbrown> adambuntu i need to compile the driver anyway i'm trying this solution sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libusb-dev build-essential gcc automake mercurial [13:33] <jackbrown> hg clone http://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x/ [13:33] <jackbrown> cd r5u87x [13:33] <jackbrown> make [13:33] <jackbrown> sudo make install [13:33] <FloodBot1> jackbrown: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:33] <jackbrown> thanks for your help [13:33] <PingFloyd> but they're nothing to even be concerned about [13:33] <vivek> indus, do u give the links of the projetcs in ubuntu site? [13:33] <IP-v6> adambuntu, sudo apt-get install enough for suggested packages ? === lordmortis|away is now known as lordmortis [13:33] <PingFloyd> have many of them of them can be an indication of a bigger issue though [13:33] <con-man> PingFloyd, they are when the process is stuck on your screen [13:34] <lorenzo_> ubuntu italy?? [13:35] <BluesKaj> !it [13:35] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [13:35] <PingFloyd> con-man: I don't know what you mean by stuck on your screen [13:36] <PingFloyd> something being stuck on the screen doesn't like anything to do with zombie processes === vislumbrante is now known as osvaldo [13:37] <carbm2> 888``2 [13:40] <carbm1> I see the 2 year old is on the laptop in the other room... brb. [13:41] <Guest64572> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [13:41] <os_> I want to have a digital library that server for sharing ebooks audiobooks videos with cataloging system what technology is available please I googled a lot but I came in to situations like ILS(integrated Library System) but I want for storing content [13:42] <MenZa> os_: Setup a Samba share, store them there? [13:42] <suvir> for audiobooks and videos you could try BMC [13:42] <suvir> XMBC* [13:42] <pituti> hola [13:42] <MenZa> !es | pituti [13:42] <ubottu> pituti: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [13:42] <itai> hi, can anyone help me with a flash problem? i lost flash playing ability after last night's update, firefox still cliams flashplayer is installed but i cant play any media [13:43] <j2daosh> anyone have a link to a ascii to hexidemical converter? i need to figure out what a - is in hex form. I found a converter but it says it is '2d' i need it in whatever format a 0x000000 is [13:43] <j2daosh> maybe that means 0x00002d? [13:44] <suvir> @itai, type about:plugins in firefox [13:44] <os_> about the digital library I want them to be web enabled and a sort isn't there any like this on the world [13:44] <suvir> check version of installed flash [13:44] <Pici> j2daosh: man ascii === Kangalovi is now known as Svetlio [13:44] <nmvictor> anyone know how i could unlock my GSM modem in ubuntu? [13:44] <suvir> (if any) [13:44] <klappi> j2daosh: printf [13:45] <toni_> c.gr [13:45] <suvir> the best solution is to install only the adobe flash plugin in synaptic [13:45] <itai> suvir - i see VLC media that can play flv is that it? [13:45] <suvir> no [13:45] <suvir> itai - is the adobe plugin in synaptic installed? [13:45] <j2daosh> ok so its 2d, so would it be 0x00002d? [13:46] <itai> it must be cause i had flash till yesterday, let me check [13:46] <cyberoidx> so I did some magic while killing "Wammu" using the system monitor, and now the pc has "hung". Any suggestions? [13:46] * Outface Merhaba.. [13:46] <j2daosh> cyber, reboot? [13:46] <cyberoidx> I thought linux never crashed! [13:46] <itai> suvir is it adobe-glashplugi or flash_plugin [13:47] <suvir> itai - i had a similar problem b4, seemed to beb due to some conflict between libswfdec and some other flash plugin [13:47] <j2daosh> when you break it, it will [13:47] <j2daosh> :P [13:47] <cyberoidx> how do I get to the terminal? [13:47] <suvir> itai : adobe-flashplugin [13:47] <cyberoidx> so I can say kill X and start it again j2daosh [13:47] <itai> suvir -that is not installed [13:47] <itai> strange [13:47] <Guest99615> help now install last java version ? for ubuntu 9.10 [13:48] <j2daosh> ctrl+alt+f1 [13:48] <suvir> 1) Remove libswfdec 2) install adobe-flashplugin [13:48] <cyberoidx> ok thats not working [13:48] <suvir> should work tht way [13:48] <cyberoidx> so I did manage to crash linux [13:48] <j2daosh> then you have to hit the reset button [13:48] <j2daosh> cyber, its not hard to crash it [13:49] <jairomaciel> #macapa [13:49] <itai> suvir "Couldn't find package "libswfdec". However, the following [13:49] <itai> packages contain "libswfdec" in their name: [13:49] <itai> " [13:49] <suvir> @ cyberoidx , why hit reset? try ctrl + alt + f1 [13:49] <suvir> then restart gdm [13:49] <cyberoidx> didn't work suvir [13:49] <cyberoidx> ctrl alt f1 was not responsive [13:49] <j2daosh> suvir: your coming in half convo, we just tried that [13:50] <j2daosh> his gui is hung, and he cant access terminals... hence the reboot [13:50] <suvir> @cyberoidx, u tried "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" right? [13:50] <j2daosh> unless he can manage to ssh in from a different system [13:50] <j2daosh> suvir: there is no terminal [13:51] <suvir> @j2daosh, 1) login with user name 2) enter commands as usual [13:51] <sobeo3browniz> Hi\ [13:51] <suvir> @j2daosh : its a way to start a terminal basically [13:51] <j2daosh> .... read the conversation up till the point you jumped in [13:52] <j2daosh> the gui is hung, cant switch to terminal on f1 - f6 screens [13:52] <suvir> @j2daosh : sorry my bad ..lemme have a look...sorry again [13:52] <cyberoidx> suvir, I killed an app using System Monitor, everything froze, and ctrl alt F1 didn't work [13:52] <remoteCTRL1> anybody familiar with freeradius? [13:52] <indus> j2daosh, kill the gui with alt sysrq K [13:52] <suvir> @cyberoidx : my bad mate! guess the best way outta that IS the reset button [13:52] <suvir> :) [13:53] <suvir> ummm.... [13:53] <cyberoidx> So I did crash linux you say suvir ? [13:53] <j2daosh> cyber, try what indus said [13:53] <j2daosh> i doubt it will help, but maybe killing the gui will kill the hung app [13:53] <suvir> i remember reading this : the safest way to restart the is alt + sysreq + [RSEIUB] -- in that order [13:54] <suvir> silly mnemonic : S=Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring [13:54] <phpmonk> any disclaimer format to show before cyber security training? [13:54] <cyberoidx> indus, sysrq? PrintScr? [13:54] <phpmonk> i don;t want to be Randal [13:55] <j2daosh> lol php [13:55] <j2daosh> i would imagine as long as you have permission from the owners you should be fine [13:55] <indus> CyberSix, sysRq [13:56] <phpmonk> j2daosh, yes i have email about the contents [13:56] <j2daosh> yes cyber, the print screen button, but the alt function of the print screen button [13:56] <indus> cyberoidx, sysrq, i am talking about killing the X server or restarting it with that key combo [13:56] <cyberoidx> found it indus [13:56] <indus> cyberoidx, oops yes both are same [13:56] <indus> cyberoidx, so Alt - SysRq -K [13:57] <suvir> @ indus , its safer to use [r-s-e-i-u-b] instead of just 'k' [13:57] <j2daosh> php, well if the owner of said server/application said you can, then go for it. if you are worried, you can always notify the server/application controllers letting them know its about to happen [13:57] <Myrtti> !tab | j2daosh [13:57] <ubottu> j2daosh: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [13:58] <cyberoidx> lol Myrtti [13:58] <phpmonk> j2daosh, ya but it will be better if i could get a disclaimer slide to show before training starts [13:58] <Myrtti> j2daosh: it helps ;-) [13:58] <j2daosh> Myrtti: yeah i know about tab completion. but since there is only one 'php' in here, its fine [13:58] <Myrtti> j2daosh: hilights, you know. complete nickname triggers hilights [13:59] <j2daosh> wait, your conducting the training? [13:59] <cyberoidx> j2daosh, some clients highlight :D [13:59] <phpmonk> j2daosh, yes [13:59] <cyberoidx> phpmonk, what trainnig? [13:59] <cyberoidx> when? [13:59] <j2daosh> myrtti, im using chatzilla, doesn't highlight for me. :), but ill tab it === lordmortis is now known as lordmortis|away [13:59] <phpmonk> cyberoidx, j2daosh, Linux security [14:00] <cyberoidx> when / where? ;) [14:00] <j2daosh> phpmonk: i would give google a shot. just look for 'general security disclaimer' or even 'general disclaimer' [14:00] <ninja_> jaja [14:00] <j2daosh> im sure one of those will give you a disclaimer template [14:01] <Pici> phpmonk: ##security would be a more appropriate channel to ask in. #ubuntu is for strictly Ubuntu support :) [14:01] <cyberoidx> or just steal it from a FOSS presentation [14:01] <cyberoidx> phpmonk, where's the training? [14:01] <ninja_> hhh [14:01] <phpmonk> cyberoidx, at a client :) [14:01] <ninja_> no [14:01] <phpmonk> Pici, yes i will ask there [14:02] <j2daosh> or, you could just say 'This is for educational purposes. I can not be held accountable for any damages caused legally or illegally but anyone attending this training' [14:02] <j2daosh> s/but/by/ [14:03] <eath> the kernel update breaks my grub and the computer won't boot. is anyone else having this problem? [14:03] <j2daosh> but on that note, I'm going for a smoke. bbiaf === jackson is now known as Guest33222 [14:05] <abhi_nav> hello everybody [14:05] <os_> Any one please would tell me any software or web based for digital library content sharing system I prefer web based [14:07] <Dancing-Bomj> [14:07] <Dancing-Bomj> invisible message. High technologies ;) [14:07] <abhi_nav> Dancing-Bomj: how to write invisibel mesg? [14:08] <icarly15> hello [14:08] <k5_> hi [14:08] <k5_> hi [14:08] <k5_> high [14:08] <FloodBot1> k5_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:08] <nibbler> why does my recent ubuntu add to /etc/hosts its hostname and fqdn pointing to 127.0.1.1 ? [14:08] <lekefly> Trying to play a 1080p video but it lags.. my system should manage to play it.. what could be wrong? [14:09] <icarly15> what is this channel for? [14:09] <Pici> icarly15: This is the Official Ubuntu Support channel. [14:09] <abhi_nav> !topic [14:09] <ubottu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [14:09] <os_> To interrupt Any one who would tell me any software or web based for digital library content sharing system I prefer web based [14:09] <suvir> how can i set environment variables from command line? [14:09] <icarly15> what is ubuntu? some type of programming enviornment? [14:09] <JoshuaL> !ubuntu [14:09] <ubottu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [14:10] <icarly15> oh lol [14:10] <indus> icarly15, is an OS [14:10] <Hcomp> !redhat [14:10] <icarly15> ok thx [14:10] <ubottu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems) [14:11] <indus> icarly15, would you like to try it? www.ubuntu.com [14:11] <icarly15> no [14:11] <indus> oh sorry, link is ther abbove [14:11] <icarly15> i use windows vista [14:11] <box> bonjour [14:11] <abhi_nav> icarly15: give ubuntu a try it can be installed side by side on ur machine without affecting ur vista [14:11] <vaibhav> my webcam is not working , any idea [14:11] <icarly15> i think that the penguin is cute [14:11] <pw-toxic> hi, can someone tell me how i can install ubuntu on a notebook without a cd rom drive? [14:11] <iceroot> icarly15: ubuntu is a linux-distribution. its a collection of programs and a kernel [14:11] <vaibhav> Dell 1525 inspiron [14:11] <erUSUL> nibbler: debian reference manual section 10.4 --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/what-does-127.0.1.1-mean-623421/?s=6ae48ab1fef9dcfaf2c8805266fca20c [14:12] <lekefly> Trying to play a 1080p video in VLC but it lags.. my system should manage to play it.. what could be wrong? [14:12] <abhi_nav> icarly15: u can also install it in ur virtual machine or install inside windows too [14:12] <erUSUL> lekefly: graphic drivers ? [14:12] <pw-toxic> lekefly, whats your cpu? [14:12] <lekefly> erUSUL: its updated.. [14:12] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, normal players dont use graphic engine for videos [14:12] <sanderj_> Is there some howto on how the ubuntu cloud computing cluster/node works? [14:12] <icarly15> leke fly do u have enough ram? [14:12] <indus> vaibhav, which application are you using to test webcam? tried skype [14:13] <vaibhav> yup, but no luck, cheese is also exiting with segmentation fault [14:13] <pw-toxic> erUSUL, VLC doesnt use graphic card as far as i know [14:13] <erUSUL> pw-toxic: xv extension. vesa driver do not support it nv drivers is known to be very slow etc... [14:13] <forceflow> pw-toxic: dpends on your extension [14:13] <nibbler> erUSUL, arf, and ubuntu puts this into /etc/hosts.... like if my ip/name was not properly resolvable, so breaking my system on the other hand >:( [14:13] <suvir> pw-toxic, try unetbootin [14:13] <perlmonkey> hello guys, got a quick question.. if I install ubuntu on a new computer which has a single core CPU, and then move that hard disk to a dual core CPU, will the kernel be able to detect it's been moved to a dual core and adjust for SMP support? or is it better to install in the right computer from the very start? [14:13] <forceflow> perlmonkey: I think it will detect it [14:13] <yemino_> Hi, I can't use mi mic on my hp pavilion laptop, and I don't be found the solution on google. Can you help me? [14:13] <indus> vaibhav, in skype under test, what happens [14:13] <perlmonkey> ok [14:13] <lekefly> pw-toxic: where do i find that out? i dont remember atm.. [14:13] <perlmonkey> thanks [14:14] <icarly15> what are some benefits of linux besides immediately identifying you as a supernerd [14:14] <pw-toxic> lekefly, whats your cpu? [14:14] <erUSUL> nibbler: then put your ip there or just commant that line. it is there just in case [14:14] <vaibhav> indus , nothing [14:14] <erUSUL> !ot | icarly15 [14:14] <ubottu> icarly15: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [14:14] <suvir> pw-toxic, u can get unetbootin in synaptic [14:14] <vaibhav> indus, the test window disappear === yemino_ is now known as hp-pavilion_mic [14:14] <lekefly> pw-toxic: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 [14:15] <nibbler> erUSUL, yes i did that. but just in case this actually wrong info broke my system, and is an extra effort to do after each server install. [14:15] <ubyserver> Hello Everyone! [14:15] <perlmonkey> icarly15 lack of vunerability to viruses/trojans, more secure system/file security, better networking support, free apps which are safe to install, better OS support [14:15] <vaibhav> indus, sorry wrong forum, I have lucid , will ask in Ubuntu+1 [14:15] <hp-pavilion_mic> Hi, I can't use mi mic on my hp pavilion laptop, and I don't be found the solution on google. Can you help me? [14:15] <ubyserver> Hope you are all having a wonderful day. [14:15] <icarly15> oh ok [14:15] <lekefly> pw-toxic: and Corsair Value S. PC5300 DDR2 2GB [14:15] <indus> vaibhav, but does it work on 9.10? [14:15] <ubyserver> Is Ubuntu 8.04 alternate the same as 8.04 server? [14:15] <erUSUL> nibbler: file a bug report or whish request in launchpad. [14:15] <pw-toxic> lekefly, how much ghz does e5300 have? [14:15] <icarly15> so basiclly it is more for work enviornment [14:16] <erUSUL> !alternate | ubyserver [14:16] <ubottu> ubyserver: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal === madmarco_ is now known as madmarco [14:16] <lekefly> pw-toxic: Dual Core, 2.60Ghz, Socket 775, 2MB, 65W, 800Mhz, [14:16] <ubyserver> So is that a yes or a no? [14:16] <vaibhav> indus, yes [14:16] <pw-toxic> suvir, when i use a usb stick i need to set an usb device as the primary boot device.. im not sure if this possible?! [14:16] <pw-toxic> lekefly, sorry i think thats too slow [14:16] <Xipette> helloooo [14:16] <indus> vaibhav, oh ok then #ubuntu+1 [14:16] <nibbler> erUSUL, okay [14:16] <pw-toxic> lekefly, quite close f+ür 1080p === sanket is now known as sanku [14:17] <indus> pw-toxic if bios supports boort from usb yes [14:17] <ubyserver> I'm at the site right now and I'm thinking that Ubuntu 8.04 alternate does is not Server Edition ... [14:17] <erUSUL> ubyserver: is a no; alternate installs a desktop system [14:17] <pw-toxic> lekefly, you need a player with graphic card support.. but there i dont have any knowledge about this on ubuntu [14:17] <pw-toxic> indus, ill try to find this out === sanku is now known as shanku [14:17] <ubyserver> Alright just making sure I am downloading the correct one. [14:17] <pw-toxic> indus, suvir thanks [14:17] <Xipette> tu ke sabes inglees erUSUL [14:17] <box> salut [14:17] <Xipette> ??????????????????????????????????????????? [14:17] <GSF1200S> anyone have thunderbird 3 working on 64 bit ubuntu? I keep getting a seg fault [14:17] <erUSUL> Xipette: yes [14:18] <suvir> pw-toxic, it usually is possible , go to your bios options and change the boot order ; usually the usb device is later in the order than the cd-drove [14:18] <Xipette> ok [14:18] <Xipette> jejejeje [14:18] <shanku> why i hav to mount my ntfs disks everytime manually ?? [14:18] <icarly15> sabes ingles porque yo vivo en los estados [14:18] <shanku> please help [14:18] <suvir> shanku, [14:18] <GSF1200S> shanku: /etc/fstab [14:18] <suvir> shanku, u do not, change ur /etc/fstab [14:18] <Xipette> no no se soy malisima en ingles [14:18] <erUSUL> !ntfs | shanku [14:18] <ubottu> shanku: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [14:18] <ubyserver> Xipette: sigue #ubuntu-es [14:19] <pw-toxic> suvir, i guess i can also create a bootable version of ubuntu with an usb stick? [14:19] <indus> pw-toxic also, sometimes extra boot options is available by pressing a key, in my motherboard, del takes me to bios ,but for usb boot i need to press f8 which gives me additional usb boot option [14:20] <pw-toxic> thanks for those infos.. i'll be glad to be able to swtich to linux again ;) [14:20] <abhi_nav> what are the windows peoples are doing here? who are not interested in linux??? [14:20] <pw-toxic> my notebook is the only computer where i can use ubuntu [14:20] <pw-toxic> for me deskotp pc, ubuntu is too bad [14:20] <Xipette> alguien tiene facebook??? [14:20] <erUSUL> !es | Xipette [14:20] <ubottu> Xipette: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [14:20] <lekefly> pw-toxic: it should manage it : ) there must be something in ubuntu slowing it.. if i logout and in it works.. [14:20] <icarly15> ni para tu, es personal [14:20] <pw-toxic> i need 3 monitors from two different graphic cards (ati and nvidia).. tv, dolby sourund with creative x-fi etc ;) [14:20] <galerien> si, pero hablas ingles profavor [14:21] <ubyserver> erUSUL: well done. [14:21] <Xipette> noseeeeeeeeeeeeeee [14:21] <ubyserver> :) [14:21] <pw-toxic> lekefly, well 2,6gb is still very close [14:21] <pw-toxic> lekefly, ghz [14:21] <Xipette> diselo tu erUSUL [14:21] <chen> 这个怎么玩 [14:21] <Xipette> XDXD [14:21] <erUSUL> !cn | chen [14:21] <ubottu> chen: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [14:21] <pw-toxic> lekefly, some action scences may have short delays [14:21] <galerien> xipette : no puede hablar ingles? [14:21] <V4mpire> has anyone got a link to copy an installation to a larger hdd ? [14:21] <Xipette> chen habla en inglees"""ç [14:21] <icarly15> what is XD? [14:21] <galerien> puedes [14:21] <ubyserver> Xipette: salte de aqui pero no quieremos hablar espanol [14:21] <galerien> * [14:21] <Xipette> no no se [14:21] <pw-toxic> icarly15, its a smiley [14:22] <V4mpire> as the partitions would need to be resized aswell [14:22] <Xipette> pos te jodes feo [14:22] <Xipette> jajjajjajaj [14:22] <Xipette> bete tu mongiii [14:22] <Xipette> jajjajjajajaj [14:22] <perlmonkey> hmm [14:22] <hp-pavilion_mic> how can I reboot only the sound preferences whitout logout? [14:22] <ubyserver> this guy Xipette is annoying [14:22] <blueghost> chen, 你好 [14:23] <ubyserver> Ignore is good :) [14:23] <shanku> hey everyone .....i hav a question ....why i hav to mount my ntfs disks everytime manually ?????? [14:23] <ubyserver> Ignore is god! [14:23] <perlmonkey> hp-pavillion_mic: sudo alsa force-reload === simon_ is now known as Guest23897 [14:23] <ubyserver> If I remember from back in the day you would have to add it in fstab? [14:23] <ubyserver> Am I right? [14:23] <hp-pavilion_mic> perlmonkey: thanks [14:23] <perlmonkey> ubyserver that's right [14:24] <ubyserver> shanku: If I am right, you have to add it in fstab to automount. [14:24] <ubyserver> perlmonkey: Yes :) Thanx pal. [14:24] <daniel_> hi [14:24] <shanku> and ow i can add in fstab??? [14:24] <shanku> *how??? [14:24] <perlmonkey> sudo vi /etc/fstab [14:24] <ubyserver> You can get perfect examples from google [14:24] <daniel_> jemand germany [14:24] <shanku> okk..i m trying ... [14:24] <shanku> tahhnx [14:25] <ubyserver> shanku: yw [14:25] <perlmonkey> shanku: be careful, make a backup of fstab [14:25] <daniel_> hello jemand aus germany [14:25] <iceroot> !de | daniel_ [14:25] <galerien> perlmonkey, if someone ask you this kind of question, don't answer him "vi" ^^ [14:25] <ubottu> daniel_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [14:25] <ubyserver> I made the mistake of working directly on the webserver instead of downloading ubuntu server and setting it up on one of my pc's ifrst [14:25] <perlmonkey> galerien well he asked how to add his mount to fstab, i answered eh [14:25] <daniel_> okay danke [14:25] <iceroot> galerien: vi(m) is always the correct answer [14:25] <blackbear> same quistion list ti as a /media/driveid? [14:25] <ubyserver> But now I am downloading and going to get this right. [14:25] <galerien> not for noobs === mkv is now known as m4v [14:26] <perlmonkey> its a text editor, how can it not be noobs?! [14:26] <blackbear> what should the listing in fstab have in it to add the ntfs drive? [14:26] <ubyserver> perlmonkey: Have you installed Plesk 9.3 on Ubuntu server by any chance? === dmart_ is now known as dmart [14:26] <erUSUL> !ntfs | blackbear [14:26] <ubottu> blackbear: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [14:26] <perlmonkey> ubyserver no i don't even have a monitor hooked to my server i just use ssh [14:26] <blackbear> thanks [14:27] <ubyserver> perlmonkey same here. [14:27] <shane2peru> ok, this is getting annoying how can I record audio, pulse audio has changed everything [14:27] <Xipette> byeee [14:27] <shanku> hey ....he is right ....i m novice user ....please tell me once more ..wat i av to do for permanent mount devices [14:27] <perlmonkey> more efficient and convenient eh [14:27] <ubyserver> Definitely. [14:27] <V4mpire> has anyone got a link to copy an installation to a larger hdd ? as the partitions would need to be resized aswell [14:28] <ubyserver> shanku:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 [14:28] <perlmonkey> i'm trying to find a reliable host that offers ssh so I can move some of my sites to a more stable hosting environment [14:28] <ubyserver> shanku: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 [14:28] <perlmonkey> my server has been experiencing a lot of probs lately :-/ [14:28] <ubyserver> I have ServerBeach. [14:28] <shanku> okk ..tanx [14:28] <ubyserver> Chain of Peer1 with no hosting support. [14:28] <shanku> *thanx [14:28] <ubyserver> shanku yw [14:29] <perlmonkey> i'm changing back to Debian to give it one last shot [14:29] <ticko_> 08:28 < ubyserver> shanku: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131 [14:29] <V4mpire> perlmonkey, what do you need ssh for ? [14:29] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu is too unstable for server for me [14:29] <gaby> is it possible to change from compiz to fluxbox in ubuntu 9.04 ? [14:29] <perlmonkey> V4mpire to connect to my server [14:29] <ubyserver> I don't really know too much about stability, I figure just making sure it is configured correctly helps the best. [14:30] <perlmonkey> V4mpire oh you mean why on a host? i need to install some perl modules and do some perl stuff for my sites [14:30] <ubyserver> I had the choice to go with centos, rh or ubuntu [14:30] <Pici> !offtopic [14:30] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [14:30] <ticko_> is there a way to open links from irssi in guake [14:30] <V4mpire> perlmonkey, perl modules like cgi kind of thing or server modules ? [14:30] <ubyserver> My goal is to get plesk installed successfully :) [14:31] <icarly15> why doesnt wolfram make an os? [14:31] <icarly15> thats would be BALLIN === dmart_ is now known as dmart [14:32] <Pici> icarly15: This channel is only for support. If you prefer to chat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic [14:32] <gaby> is it possible to change from compiz to fluxbox in ubuntu 9.04? [14:32] <perlmonkey> V4mpire: perl modules for perl :) [14:33] <anivair> Looking for some assistance with sound issues. I'm running an LTSP server and while a sip phone (twinkle) works great on the server it doesn't work on the thin clients. I get no sound of stuttering sound. Opening the sound properties usually fixes it. All the defaults are the same. [14:33] <anivair> No idea what that means [14:33] <perlmonkey> they require root access to be installed [14:33] <V4mpire> perlmonkey, ahh so you want server hosting not webhosting so to speak so you got control over that ? [14:33] <perlmonkey> ya [14:33] <perlmonkey> virtual server [14:33] <icarly15> by support you mean moral or technical? [14:33] <Pici> icarly15: Technical. [14:33] <icarly15> bye [14:33] <ubyserver> rofl [14:34] <V4mpire> perlmonkey, its a little off topic here so if you would like me to see what i can help with can talk with you in pm [14:34] <gaby> is it possible to change from compiz to fluxbox on ubuntu 9.04????????????? [14:35] <abhi_nav> gaby: if fluxbox better than compiz? i want to give try if it is [14:35] <abhi_nav> is* [14:35] <anivair> Gaby: yes. You'll need super user access and to install fluxbox. [14:35] <ticko_> abhi_nav: i used to run fluxbox on ubuntu about 3 years ago [14:35] <anivair> It's not "better" but it is si mpler [14:35] <ticko_> im sure it stil works [14:36] <abhi_nav> no no i mean i am currently using compiz. so just wondering if fluxbox is better or what? [14:36] <abhi_nav> ok [14:36] <gaby> anivair, will it force me to upgrade to 9.10 ?????? [14:36] <anivair> gaby: just "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" [14:36] <galerien> it shouldn't force you [14:36] <anivair> gaby: then at the login screen, select options and fluxbox should be one of the options presented [14:37] <stdisease> I've installed an alpha lucid release, I don't need to reinstall again with the final right? [14:37] <ticko_> anivair: i dont think the package you get through apt-get is current [14:37] <anivair> Gaby: no. apt doesn't force an upgrade. it uses the repos from whatever you're running [14:37] <anivair> hmm ... that may be true [14:37] <Pici> stdisease: Correct. But Alpha questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1 [14:38] <anivair> ticko_: is it just old or does it not work at all? [14:38] <stdisease> Pici, right, thanks. [14:38] <ticko_> anivair: i believe it doesnt work at all let me double check [14:38] <anivair> I suppose I can install it here and give it a shot ... [14:38] <gaby> anivair, here is the output ... http://pastebin.com/m14ed055 === Wolf is now known as Guest71293 [14:39] <galerien> what's the best soft for msn ? [14:39] <ticko_> anivair: ya current on source forge is 1.4 [14:39] <ticko_> anivair: but who knows it might work i just dont remember it working out of apt-get [14:41] <stdisease> galerien, there's kopete, empathy, pidgin.. [14:41] <anivair> gaby: I ran it in test and it seems to be working here. but I'm running 9.10. [14:41] <Alberto> udjjjjcuujuc f [14:41] <stdisease> galerien, it's a matter of taste, personally I use kopete [14:41] <anivair> you can always do it the old fashioned way and download it from sourceforge [14:41] <IP-v6> !best | galerien [14:41] <ubottu> galerien: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [14:41] <galerien> oki, i'll try kopete [14:41] <galerien> thx [14:42] <gaby> so anivair, i need to upgrade? [14:42] <stdisease> how does bestBot collect people's opinions?? [14:42] <stdisease> sorry offtopic nvm [14:42] <mawst> ok so I guess the question is, how do you add kernel arguments in grub2? [14:42] <mawst> because GRUB_GFXMODE only affects grub itself [14:42] <mawst> I want a vga console [14:42] <stdisease> mawst, pass vga=0 to the kernel cmdline [14:43] <stdisease> mawst, or vga=ask to prompt you [14:43] <mawst> and how is that done via config file with grub 2? [14:43] <mawst> Since I'm not supposed to edit [14:43] <stdisease> mawst, and you need to edit /etc/default/grub then run update-grub2 [14:43] <ticko> anivair: i just booted into flux from synaptic so it works [14:44] <mawst> stdisease, what line do you put in /etc/default/grub that is equivelant to vga=793 for4 example? [14:45] <ticko> anivair: you get that last message? === mulder is now known as Guest28155 [14:45] <Guest28155> Hi all. I need help removing namoroka browser - I have tried so many things I am losing it! [14:45] <anivair> ticko: I did. I think the issue is her version [14:46] <anivair> gaby: you don't *need* to, but it will help === Guest28155 is now known as Tuco [14:46] <anivair> gaby: you can also install it another way (or try) but apt is going ot be easiest [14:46] <gaby> so why its not working with me anivair? [14:46] <ticko> Guest28155: have you tried sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE in term? [14:46] <ticko> Tuco: ^ [14:47] <Tuco> Yes I did it always come back [14:47] <stdisease> mawst, well in my file there's a line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" - you add the vga=<whatever> along or instead of the other options [14:47] <Tuco> I mean it is still sowing 3.6.2 pre [14:47] <Tuco> showing sorry [14:47] <mawst> I just noticed that [14:47] <mawst> legacy support line :P [14:47] <mawst> Thanks stdisease [14:47] <stdisease> mawst, y/w [14:48] <ticko> Tuco: you tried manually deleting the package folders? after apt-get remove of course [14:48] <mawst> brb testing [14:48] <PatrinStar> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 onto my laptop and it loaded and its just a black screen and i cant access anything, and a warning keeps popping up about power management [14:48] <Tuco> Hold on I am going to do it all over again Ticko === dmart is now known as Guest45491 [14:48] <stdisease> I bet he didn't run update-grub... [14:48] <BluesKaj> Guest15050, how did you install namoroka browser ? [14:48] <Tuco> From the synaptic BluesKaj [14:49] <anivair> Gaby: my guess is that the repos for whatever version you're running pulled it out [14:49] <hp-pavilion_mic> Mi mic works ok. Mi sound too. But I can't use both. How can help me? [14:49] <Tuco> I just want the latest version and not that pre one [14:49] <dsnyders> HI all! When I scroll-wheel on certain screen locations it moves me from workspace to workspace. How do I turn that off? [14:49] <gaby> do you know how can i fix it anivair? [14:49] <Roasted_> How do I install murrine for themes? [14:49] <BluesKaj> then use synaptic to remove it. Guest28155 [14:49] <Tuco> OK doing it [14:50] <ticko> dsnyders: you in gnome"? [14:50] <Tuco> the thing is if I want to install Firefox, it comes back as Namoroka 3.6.2 pre again [14:50] <dsnyders> ticko, yes [14:50] <anivair> gaby: You can either upgrade or install it manually. Have you ever installed anything from source before? If not, then this might be a bit advanced for a first go. [14:51] <anivair> you might be safer upgrading and then just using apt [14:52] <Tuco> Ok Namoroka is gone - now how can I install a clean version of Firefox without having namoroka back? [14:52] <ticko> dsnyders: dsnyders it doesnt just do it when you have your mouse hovering over the workspace area [14:52] <mawst> Much better! [14:52] <mawst> :D [14:52] <ticko> anivair: just install via synaptic [14:52] <stdisease> mawst, good :) [14:53] <littlegreen> Tuco I'm realy not following your conversation, but did you try "sudo apt-get install firefox" ? [14:53] <ticko> Tuco: install via synaptic its ok [14:53] <Roasted_> How do I install murrine for themes? [14:53] <ticko> Tuco: or sudo apt-get install in term either way [14:54] <Tuco> Yes but when I do that, Namoroka reinstalls itself even though I have deleted it! [14:54] <mawst> Anyone care to take a stab at this? (sync out of range in 800x600, in games with my monitor) -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408129 [14:54] <ticko> Tuco: the only reason why it would reinstall if it was a dependency and it i know it isnt a dependency of firefox [14:54] <ticko> Tuco: just go into gnome terminal and type without quotes "sudo apt-get install firefox" [14:54] <anivair> ticko: it was gaby's problem. It'll install fine for me. [14:54] <MDB2210> #plug-az [14:55] <stdisease> mawst, that could be an issue with either your gfx driver or you need to enter correct sync values in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [14:55] <ticko> anivair: yea i didnt mean to send that message to you [14:55] <ticko> anivair: sry lol [14:55] <ticko> off to school sorry all [14:55] <Tuco> OK and how can I make sure there are no dependency left for it? [14:56] <littlegreen> Tuco apt installs dependancies automaticaly(hope spelling is right) [14:56] <Tuco> just did sudo apt-get install firefox and Namoroka is back again! Arghhhhhhhh [14:56] <dsnyders> ticko, no. Only if I'm on an empty spot on the desktop, or a blank area in certain programs and I use the scroll wheel. [14:57] <teage> How do you chroot into a dirrectory, I have read the man pages and still cant do it. Im doing something wrong. can someone give me an example please? [14:57] <stdisease> Tuco, remove it again and try reinstalling with aptitude, maybe it'll give you alternatives [14:57] <Pici> Tuco: Can you pastebin what the results of: apt-cache policy firefox is? [14:57] <stdisease> teage, 'chroot <directory>' [14:58] <mawst> Is there anything besides restarting Xorg that needs to be done for it to reload the config? [14:58] <EvRide> hallo ubuntu [14:58] <teage> stdisease: i do that and it says no such file or directory [14:58] <teage> stdisease: do i have to specify the path to the directory? [14:59] <Pianoman13> my wireless is not functional yet using Ubuntu 9.10 but it is in the other environment, vista, can someone help find a solution? [14:59] <stdisease> teage, perhaps the directory you're trying to chroot to does not exist or does not have the proper files needed to support chrooting [14:59] <mawst> stdisease, if I specify modelines for 800x600, it will go specifically through those only right? [14:59] <stdisease> teage, you'll need to havee a /bin/sh (if you don't specify another command) and any other shared libraries it needs to work (or none if a static executable) [14:59] <stdisease> teage, at the very least [15:00] <ng0n> .. [15:00] <edqnag> hello [15:01] <edqnag> is there anyone that can help me a bit? === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc [15:01] <Tuco> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m7814c24a [15:01] <teage> stdisease: ic, I will look at some more tutorials. you think i may need more dependents? for chroot to work, am i reading you right? [15:02] <Roasted_> Hi. I'm trying to install the murrine engine PPA. I added the PPA. Now what? What's the apt-get command? I'm not seeing it on their site. [15:02] <stdisease> teage, precisely [15:02] <edqnag> can anyone tell me how to clear grub loading screen after i updated ubuntu and how to remove old files [15:03] <stdisease> teage, but what you need *exactly* depends on what you're trying to accomplish [15:03] <Pici> Tuco: And what version do you want to install? 3.5 or 3.6? [15:03] <stdisease> edqnag, you remove old kernel packages and run update-grub2 [15:03] <Tuco> Well I am not sure what is the latest for Ubuntu, at least not a pre version! [15:03] <V4mpire> anyone know what 1 x PCI Express 2.0 is ? [15:04] <huelk_> is it possible to merge 2 branches from different servers with git? [15:04] <teage> thanx stdisease, i am trying to browse an iso of Ubuntu 9.10 and view its file system as though it where and installed system. view it with nautilus. Ive done this befiore. its been a while though. [15:04] <stdisease> V4mpire, a PCI express 2.0 slot type, usually smaller than the full x16 [15:04] <bscape> where can i edit the color of xterm? [15:04] <stdisease> V4mpire, for hardware that doesn't need alot of juice, like ethernet cards [15:05] <V4mpire> ahh ok [15:05] <Pici> Tuco: The latest version in the official repositories is 3.5.8 [15:05] <edqnag> stdisease>how to remove old kernel files? [15:05] <Tuco> Ok that one then and not the 3.6.2pre Namoroka. [15:05] <stdisease> teage, ooh you went into a completely different direction, what you need is to mount the .iso as a loopback filesystem [15:06] <Pianoman13> my wireless is not functional yet using Ubuntu 9.10 but it is in the other environment, vista, can someone help find a solution? [15:06] <stdisease> teage, 'sudo mount -o loop <isofile> /mnt/<whatever>" [15:06] <Pici> Tuco: Then you'll need to remove the firefox ppa lines from your /etc/apt/sources.list [15:06] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, I upgraded to 9.10, and now I don't have a Hibernate or Suspend option...how can I get these back? [15:06] <purpzey> I heard someone say yesterday that the distro upgrade has problems, is this true for Karmic? [15:07] <teage> stdisease, ic, thanx [15:07] <ima> Hey, I was wondering if it is possible to make Caps Lock a regular key. (Stay functional as a key, but not trigger the capitol lock.) [15:07] <Clone29> i'm use ubuntu 9.10 and use gnome-shell [15:07] <BluesKaj> Pianoman13, using network manager and which wiwfi chip ? [15:07] <Tuco> OK Pici I am going to check that now [15:08] <Pici> Tuco: Let me know if you need help with that. [15:08] <Clone29> ada yang indonesia? [15:08] <stdisease> bscape, hmm look under /etc/X11/app-defaults or read xterm manpage.. [15:08] <Pianoman13> BluesKaj, mmmmm chip you said, you mean intel? [15:08] <dsnyders> ima, I believe so. Many people switch it to a Control key. I don't know the procedure to do it though. What would you put there? [15:08] <BluesKaj> which wifi card? === lordmortis|away is now known as lordmortis [15:09] <richierich> hey guys i have 4 small bash scripts to perform options like unzip all zip files, remove dashes in filenames, upload to ftp. Now is there anyone i could combine all of these into one script and choose options to run which ever one i want. eg i would want a master script/program called allscripts and i would run that and i would be able to press 1. to unzip all or press 2 to upload to ftp etc.. [15:09] <daniskami> ima: it can be done easily with xmodmap (or your ~/.Xmodmap file) === alex_ is now known as alex12 [15:09] <edqnag> stdisease how to remove old kernel files? [15:09] <Tuco> I am looking for the ppa lines in the source list Pici [15:09] <Pianoman13> BluesKaj, i am a 3 weeks old ubuntu user so some of your words must be interpreted [15:09] <ima> daniskami, but that would just be remapping it to a different key, right? [15:09] <Pici> richierich: #bash would be the best channel to ask this in. [15:09] <daniskami> ima: I put AltGr there and can show you my config as an example [15:10] <richierich> Pici, thanks [15:10] <daniskami> ima: of course, I also disable the lock function [15:10] <Pianoman13> BluesKaj, i have an hp compaq8710p laptop and a linksys router wireless-g wrt54gp2 [15:10] <ima> daniskami, ideally it would be a key that does nothing, but allows shortcuts to be bound to it. [15:11] <daniskami> ima: you should map it to Super or Meta or whatever then [15:11] <Pianoman13> BluesKaj, ndiswrapper is installed on my system but i do not know what to do with it? [15:11] <stdisease> edqnag, use aptitude and remove the packages OR if all fails remove the old ones from under /boot/ [15:11] <Tuco> I have removed the ppa line Pici [15:11] <Pici> Tuco: Now run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox [15:12] <BluesKaj> Pianoman13, in the terminal type lspci, and look for a wireless controller [15:13] <aaron_seibert> join #ubuntuone === IP-v6 is now known as IP-v6_away [15:13] <skun> ciao [15:13] <Pianoman13> BluesKaj, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) === joseph is now known as Guest36339 [15:14] <Tuco> Ok Pici doing it [15:14] <edqnag> stdisease thank you [15:14] <magn3ts> Where does karmic store its X11 config [15:15] <Roasted_> Hi. I'm trying to install the murrine engine PPA. I added the PPA. Now what? What's the apt-get command? I'm not seeing it on their site. [15:15] <fission6> my thumb drive is not being recognized? what should i do? it worked fine on ubuntu at home [15:15] <ima> daniskami, the thing is that I need a short cut on it that I need to hold down from time to time whilst doing other thing like typing etc, holding down the super key doesn't allow me to type anymore. Is there a way to make a key without a function somehow? [15:15] <Tuco> Namoroka is back Pici :-( [15:15] <borjita> ola [15:15] <ddurham_> is there a way to tell aptitude to ignore a package? [15:15] <ddurham_> I don't want to see this package in my list of updates [15:16] <Pici> Tuco: Where does it say Namoroka? [15:16] <Tuco> Applications/Internet ----Namoroka web browser, [15:16] <fission6> what would i do if my thumb drive is not "popping up" when i plug it in [15:16] <cannam> I would like to discover (programmatically, from a script) which version of a given package is available in which Ubuntu release -- e.g. by querying a web resource [15:17] <Tuco> and also on the browser help/about Namoroka [15:17] <magn3ts> Please, I can't use my computer because my menus are on a screen that no longer physically exists [15:17] <cannam> preferably without having to scrape through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packagename> -- any bright ideas, anyone? is there a service for this? [15:17] <hp-pavilion_mic> i can't use mi mic and sound at the same time, why??? [15:18] <zleap> cannam, won't synaptic tell you what version is on the repository [15:18] <purpzey> I heard someone say yesterday that the distro upgrade has problems, is this true for Karmic? [15:18] <Tuco> Do I have to remove all ppa lines Pici? [15:18] <Pici> cannam: Does rmadison do what you want? Its in the decscripts package. [15:18] <cannam> zleap: I should have added: I'd like the solution to work even if not actually running on ubuntu itself [15:18] <ddurham_> fission6: I check the output from /var/log/messages .. look for the /dev/ entry, then do sudo mount /dev/sdx1 (where x is what log/messages tells you) [15:18] <Pici> Tuco: Does apt-cache policy still list some ppa lines? [15:18] <marienz> cannam: suspect you can do that through launchpadlib, but I don't know how exactly. [15:19] <zleap> well synaptic works on debian and i guess most .deb based systems [15:19] <cannam> only requirement should be an http client, ideally, and something that parses xml or html [15:19] <zleap> byut i see your point [15:19] <Pici> Tuco: apt-cache policy firefox rather. [15:19] <fission6> ddurham_: i will try these steps, t hanks [15:19] <cannam> or rdf [15:19] <ddurham_> fission6: you can do in one terminal: tail -f /var/log/messages [15:19] <ddurham_> then pop the thumb drive in [15:19] <ddurham_> it will tell you what the device is [15:20] <fission6> got it [15:20] <Tuco> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m68b2f87 [15:20] <fission6> it says someething like, usb 2-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9 & scsi11 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [15:20] <ddurham_> doesn't give you a /dev/sdc or whatever? [15:20] <privateabstract> Can anyone see anything wrong with this statement: $query = 'INSERT INTO users VALUES(' . $username . ', ' . $password . ');'; [15:21] <Pici> Tuco: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please? [15:21] <lekefly> Where should i get xf86-video-ati for ubuntu? [15:21] <ddurham_> there should be multiple lines [15:21] <sebsebseb> Hi [15:21] <littlegreen> lekefly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701815 [15:22] <lekefly> littlegreen: seems old tho? [15:22] <Tuco> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m42ebfd13 [15:22] <Pici> Tuco: do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? [15:23] <fission6> ddurham_: i cant figure out the right X to use [15:23] <Tuco> Pici: what do you mean by .d? [15:23] <littlegreen> lekefly take a look at that one: it's a bit newer http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_open_jaunty&num=1 [15:23] <Pici> Tuco: Thats a directory. [15:24] <littlegreen> lekefly I'm not sure if it will be helpful... [15:24] <ddurham_> fission6: paste everything that shows up after you pop in the thumbdrive to pastebin.ca [15:24] <Tuco> I only use the c drive if this is what you mean [15:24] <ddurham_> there will be multiple lines [15:24] <ddurham_> or should be [15:25] <Tuco> Pici: I only use the c drive if this is what you mean [15:25] <fission6> okay i think i got it! i can see the mount now, thanks ddurham_. my next questino is why it didnt automount or pop up the file system on the thumb drive like it does on my other ubuntu [15:25] <ddurham_> good question [15:25] <ddurham_> that's beyond me [15:25] <fission6> fascinating, thanks [15:26] <Pianoman13> my wireless is not functional yet using Ubuntu 9.10 but it is in the other environment, vista, can someone help find a solution? [15:26] <baga> join #macedonia [15:26] <Pici> Tuco: No.. thats not what I mean. You know how you got to /etc/apt/sources.list ? You need to go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and see if there are any files in that directory. [15:26] <ddurham_> fission6: that log file is the first place to start with any hardware issues :) [15:26] <fission6> ok thanks [15:26] <fission6> good to know [15:26] <privateabstract> Pianoman13, would help if you told us what wireless device you're using. [15:27] <baga> undenet server? [15:27] <Pianoman13> privateabstract, , i have an hp compaq8710p laptop and a linksys router wireless-g wrt54gp2 [15:27] <Pianoman13> privateabstract, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) [15:28] <Tuco> Pici: Well I just don't know how to get into that directory, in the terminal it doesn't pull anything [15:28] <Pici> Tuco: so ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ doesn't return anything? [15:28] <barf> which channel for 10.4? [15:28] <Pianoman13> privateabstract, ndiswrapper is installed on my system but i do not know what to do with it? [15:29] <littlegreen> lek http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19518#post95300 [15:29] <genii> !lucid | barf [15:29] <ubottu> barf: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [15:29] <Tuco> Pici: http://pastebin.com/d7850d5e [15:29] <privateabstract> Pianoman13, never used ndiswrapper, I've only ever used d-link who supply Linux drivers. [15:29] <teage> privateabstrack, you view yer hardware with the lshw command [15:29] <karaangov> nqkoi jelaesht da me helpne [15:29] <littlegreen> lekefly try that one as well http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19518#post95300 - I think it's the latest release [15:30] <purpzey> Is there a better channel to ask about an upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic? (Ubuntu offtopic perhaps?) [15:30] <Pici> Tuco: Aha! please run: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list* [15:31] <Tuco> Pici: cannot remove `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list*': No such file or directory [15:32] <Pianoman13> privateabstract, should i continue asking for help in here in case someone knows how to fix the problem? [15:32] <ddurham_> so, does anyone here know how to tell aptitude to ignore a package, so that it doesn't show up in my list of updates [15:32] <privateabstract> Pianoman13, I'm sure plenty of people in here will know how to use ndiswrapper :p [15:33] <ima> daniskami, I figured it out, thanks a bunch :) [15:33] <karaangov> as you fkluchvam my company need to restartvam internet how to fix it [15:33] <dsnyders> HI all! When I scroll-wheel on certain screen locations it moves me from workspace to workspace. How do I turn that off? [15:33] <Pici> Tuco: Er. Does cd /etc/apt/sources.list; ls report any files? === KB1JWQ is now known as PFY [15:33] <daniskami> ima: you're welcome [15:34] <cannam> ddurham_: put it on hold? echo package-name hold | dpkg --set-selections ... might want to double-check with the dpkg manpage [15:34] <guillaume_> Good afternoon all, I've a problem with mozilla firefox, who can i help me? === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ [15:34] <Tuco> Pici:unlikely Pici [15:35] <sebsebseb> !details | guillaume_ [15:35] <ubottu> guillaume_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [15:35] <ima> daniskami, remove Lock = Caps_Lock disables the caps lock feature but leaves the button usable for shortcuts and so on :) [15:35] <Pici> Tuco: Okay, then run sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy firefox again please [15:35] <dsnyders> guillaume_, Nobody can help you unless you ask your question [15:35] <ddurham_> guillaume_: are you associated with the groovy project? [15:36] <sebsebseb> guillaume_: What's the problem? [15:36] <daniskami> ima: oh cool, I thought you would have to remap it, but that's even better [15:36] <daniskami> ima: still, I prefer AltGr on CapsLock [15:36] <j2daosh> what kind of format is this? 0x457854 is it hexidecimal? [15:37] <ima> daniskami, yeah, depends on what you need :) [15:37] <cli4life> When a windows focus is lost, it changes the color of the top bar (with the close, minimize, maximize on the top right) It also gives it a slight transparency. I don't like this. Where can I change it? [15:37] <Pianoman13> my wireless is not functional yet using Ubuntu 9.10 but it is in the other environment, vista, can someone help find a solution? [15:37] <daniskami> ima: I have a german keyboard layout and need it for []{}\| etc. [15:37] <Pianoman13> i have an hp compaq8710p laptop and a linksys router wireless-g wrt54gp2 [15:37] <tien> vlc media cool [15:38] <Pianoman13> ndiswrapper is installed on my system but i do not know what to do with it? [15:38] <Pianoman13> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) [15:38] <Pici> suffice: Please ask in #freenode if you're having freenode password issues. [15:38] <sebsebseb> Pianoman13: Have you read this? [15:38] <Tuco> Pici: YEAAAAAAAAAAAH! It's gone, I am not sure how and why, but it's gone! I guess it had enough of being badly treated :-) [15:38] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Pianoman13 [15:38] <ubottu> Pianoman13: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:38] <j2daosh> cli4life: system ->preferences -> appearance || if you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed, it would be under that [15:38] <ardchoille> cli4life: that is done by the window manager, so you'd need to change the theme that your window manager is using. Sounds like you're using compiz [15:38] <Pici> Tuco: Yay! [15:39] <cli4life> yeah im using compiz [15:39] <cli4life> I looked all around compiz i cant find the setting [15:39] <ardchoille> cli4life: I don't know which wm compiz uses though [15:39] <tien> compiz? === jaro is now known as wind-catcher [15:39] <Tuco> That is very strange, but I think I know why. Basicall I removed the ppa line from the repo, but forgot to save the changes in the source list :-) [15:39] <ashic> can we install ubuntu enterprise cloud in virtual box [15:39] <Tuco> Saved, started everything all again and TADA! [15:40] <Pici> ashic: Best to ask UEC questions in #ubuntu-server [15:40] <Pianoman13> sebsebseb, yes did not understand what i was reading [15:40] * linduxed requests hilight [15:40] <j2daosh> cli4life: system -> pref -> compizconfig-settings-manager -> Look for settings dealing with transparency [15:40] <Tuco> Pici: Thank you very much for your effort mate, much appreciated ;-) [15:40] <k0d3g3ar> anyone here use VirtualBox with Ubuntu? [15:40] <sebsebseb> k0d3g3ar: sometimes [15:40] <emanuele> !list [15:40] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [15:41] <w3l54666> hey guys [15:41] <emanuele> hey [15:41] <emanuele> ciao a tutti [15:41] <tiger_> hey people i have a huge problem here the sound for some reason now sounds like an apokaliptic deamon anyone know how i can fix that [15:41] <w3l54666> sorry ti be a pain in the rear, but i forgot to write down how to install my wifi card :S [15:41] <w3l54666> usb wifi card [15:42] <jackbrown> hi there i should edit a file in /etc directory with a text editor but i'm unable to do that i should be logged as root [15:42] <jackbrown> how can i do that? [15:42] <ashic_> is it possible to install enterprise cloud in virtual box [15:43] <w3l54666> jackbrown: sudo -i in terminal then your root password [15:43] <ardchoille> jackbrown: use sudo for cli editors and gksudo for gui editors [15:43] <tiger_> yea it is as long as you have an iso image you can install anying in vbox [15:44] <ashic_> i was able to install but not getting the clud [15:44] <Eleth> Does anyone have Thunderbird 3, Lightning and GDATA-provider working together fine on x86_64? I have them installed but GDATA provider doesn't load my calendars :/ [15:44] <jackbrown> ok thanks i got it [15:44] <jackbrown> now i should add a list of command at the /etc/modules file [15:44] <enrike> ola === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [15:44] <jackbrown> do i have to add them after lp ? [15:45] <enrike> ola [15:45] <barf> Is it possible for MacOS X and Linux to co exist? Ideally I would say 5GB MOSX, 5GB Ubuntu, 200GB storage, question is which format that both OSes can write to [15:45] <ubyserver> barf: Yes. [15:46] <jackbrown> hey does anybody can help me i have to mod the /etc/modules take a look if i'm doing well http://pastebin.com/d419e32b3 [15:46] <ubyserver> barf: Just requires partitioning [15:46] <enrike> ola [15:46] <jackbrown> hey does anybody can help me i have to mod the /etc/modules take a look if i'm doing well http://pastebin.com/d419e32b3 [15:47] <doolph> hello [15:47] <privateabstract> barf, he asked you what format they can both read and write to. Not how they can "co-exist". [15:47] <tiger_> can anyone help me with my sound issues [15:47] <barf> privateabstract: affirmative [15:47] <enrike> uhdefhjdi [15:47] <ubyserver> The question mark in his question is after the first few words :p [15:47] <enrike> hello [15:48] <doolph> anyone can guide me [15:48] <jackbrown> hey does anybody can help me i have to mod the /etc/modules take a look if i'm doing well http://pastebin.com/d419e32b3 [15:48] <cli4life> j2daosh: I looked at all of the compiz stuff and I see nothing that has to do with transparancy? [15:48] <enrike> grite?? [15:48] <barf> Rephrase: Is it possible for MacOS X and Linux to co exist in the following way 5GB MOSX, 5GB Ubuntu, 200GB storage, question is which format that both OSes can write to? [15:48] <doolph> I want to start a networking with linux server and linux workstations, what kind of services should the service have [15:48] <daniskami> That's strange considering that Compiz is all about transparency and effects ;) [15:49] <k0d3g3ar> I want to run VirtualBox on Ubuntu on my laptop (Ubuntu is the host). Need to run WinXP as a guest in VB. What's the best way to setup the networking so it will work if I roam from coffee shop to coffee shop/wifi to wifi? [15:49] <barf> doolph: Which services do you need? [15:49] <barf> I’d say ssh [15:49] <j2daosh> give me a sec cli4life ill look at mine [15:49] <cli4life> daniskami: I mean the ones that are enabled [15:49] <privateabstract> barf, you can read from ext3 using Mac OSX. http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-61597.html [15:49] <ubyserver> barf: MAC hfs,Linux ext [15:49] <thijs_> can someone help me to format the HDD that i'm running my OS on? [15:50] <thijs_> err, that i'm running ubuntu on, going to try other distro [15:50] <privateabstract> thijs_, boot to a live CD and use gparted or another partition editor. [15:50] <ubyserver> barf: Also you have to check the requirements of the MAC OS you are looking to install. As it will tell you the minimum space required. [15:50] <ubyserver> barf normall would want 8gb+ for mac [15:50] <privateabstract> thijs_, alternatively you can unmount the partitions you're using now (after loading gparted) and then use it. [15:51] <magn3ts_> Also note Mac REQUIRES GPT to install [15:51] <daniskami> barf: 5 GB might not be enough for Mac OS X [15:51] <Alphex> useradd -m -p widget timer when i su pig i get an athentication failure on the pass anyone know what im doing wrong [15:51] <barf> My current MacOS X SL takes 4GB [15:51] <thijs_> privateabstract, okay, thank you! [15:51] <magn3ts_> barf, Also note Mac REQUIRES GPT to install [15:51] <barf> GPT? [15:51] <doolph> barf: I need users management, disk share, automatic upgrade... [15:51] <magn3ts_> also, gparted can butcher GPT at times [15:52] <magn3ts_> barf, its an alternative to MBR partition styles [15:52] <barf> doolph: On LAN? === FeiRuoWa is now known as zz_FeiRuoWa [15:52] <barf> magn3ts_: runs fine on EFI [15:52] <doolph> yes [15:52] <doolph> on a Lan [15:52] <barf> doolph: NFS [15:52] <barf> for shared volumes [15:52] <doolph> and also over vpn [15:52] <ghabit> barf: Do you have mac? [15:52] <magn3ts_> barf, the EFI/BIOS difference is different than MBR/GPT [15:52] <j2daosh> cli4life: you will want to look into the compizconfig-settings-manager for 'Window Decoration' and Fading Windows' and 'Trailfocus' [15:53] <barf> ghabit: several [15:53] <barf> I also have at least 5x 4U Chieftec 19" [15:53] <barf> running debian or ubuntu [15:54] <barf> depending on age [15:54] <j2daosh> trailfocus deals with the transparency on focused/unfocused windows [15:54] <ping> hi. the other day the update manager updated flash but now i get this on webpages where flash content should be: "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player." how would i fix this? [15:54] <hp-pavilion_mic> i cant use mic and sound at the same time on my hp pavilion. Some can help me? [15:54] <Homicidal> pulse audio sucks [15:54] <Homicidal> YOU SUCK [15:54] <FloodBot1> Homicidal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [15:54] <barf> I used to run debian 2.3 on my G4/450 about year 2001 [15:54] <BluesKaj> ping, firefox? [15:54] <c1d0x> list [15:54] <V4mpire> off topic question but whats standard case fan size isn't it 80mm ? [15:55] <cli4life> j2daosh: trailfocus is disabled. so is fading windows. [15:55] <ping> BluesKaj, yes and chrome [15:55] <barf> And it ran fine, but in separate environments [15:55] <barf> I guess I will just run ubuntu in virtualmachine under MacOS X [15:55] <ubyserver> thumbs + [15:55] <cli4life> j2daosh: window decoration is on, but i played with all the settings and it doesnt look like any of them change the top bar color when out of focus [15:55] <barf> And connect via localhost to the HFS+ [15:56] <emperor15> i kill je [15:56] <ping> BluesKaj, do you have the same problem? [15:57] <BluesKaj> ping, I have the same problem , but there doesn't seem to be a fix yet ..it's becoming a known bug. I haven't checked lauchpad yet because it appeared yesterday I think. [15:57] <daniskami> cli4life: might be the window manager (probably Emerald) which has its own settings [15:57] <w3l54666> hey guys can some 1 talk me through installing my RAlink usb wifi dongle please?? [15:57] <ping> BluesKaj, ok. thanks. i guess i will wait for an update [15:57] <BluesKaj> ping, actually chrome seems to work better on some sites than FF [15:58] <kurtjx> hello [15:58] <ping> BluesKaj, flash is completely busted on my machine [15:58] <ubyserver> BluesKaj: that means those sites were tested more with that browser during creation right? [15:59] <privateabstract> ubyserver, I test my webpages on IE, FF and Chrome while creating, so I'm sure professionals will also do the same. [15:59] <fumbles> any insights into installing terminus in ubuntu? [15:59] <ubyserver> Some don't [15:59] <blakkheim> !info terminus [15:59] <jairo> hello [15:59] <jairo> ola [15:59] <jairo> ooooooooooola [15:59] <redbull360> hi [15:59] <Pici> !es | jairo [15:59] <ubottu> Package terminus does not exist in karmic [15:59] <ubottu> jairo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [15:59] <ubyserver> I test all IE7,8 FF Chrome [15:59] <j2daosh> dont know then. mine doesn't do it [15:59] <ubyserver> Not all.. [15:59] <blakkheim> fumbles: guess you need to compile it then [15:59] <fumbles> bleh I thought so [15:59] <fumbles> thanks [16:00] <jairo> hola soy jaro quienes soys [16:00] <fumbles> or I'll just change the xmonad file to not use xmonad [16:00] <kurtjx> is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle through the windows of the same application (i.e. document viewer has several papers open i just want to go thru these not the FF windows etc - not alt+tab) [16:00] <redbull360> can someone help to install tcl on linux centos === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc [16:00] <blakkheim> redbull360: this is not a centOS support channel === freesurfer is now known as evel_knievel [16:00] <alex12> redbull360, #centos [16:00] <redbull360> o sorry === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [16:00] <redbull360> ty [16:01] <kurtjx> redbull360, try #centos if you can get verified or whatever [16:01] <joppan> what is init === root is now known as Guest74017 [16:01] <cannam> kurtjx: depends on the application, but in firefox and gnome terminal it's ctrl+pgup/pgdn [16:02] <joppan> The_SLain_MAn: hello can u help me out with what is init [16:02] <kurtjx> wow hi cannam [16:02] <kurtjx> thnx [16:02] <cannam> indeed [16:02] <cannam> whodathunkit etc [16:03] <fumbles> init is your run level [16:03] <nico__> hi [16:03] <kurtjx> but afraid that does a page up / page down in doc viewer [16:03] <fumbles> joppan, init is your run level [16:03] <kurtjx> not switch docs [16:03] <joppan> hi [16:03] <joppan> k [16:03] <jackbrown> hello i just installed my Webcam Driver under UBUNTU and no it seems that doens't works on WinXP VBOX, do i have to uninstall and reinstall guest additions to make it works ? === GazzaK is now known as Gary [16:03] <joppan> how to know my current runlevel am runnning gnome-session [16:04] <cannam> kurtjx: is that evince? I s'pose the point is it's an application shortcut, rather than a wm thing -- so could be anything (or nothing) [16:04] <kurtjx> indeed thnx cannam [16:04] <kurtjx> was just thinking about mac os where one can hit cmd+~ to do this [16:05] <wubi> where I can awarding of a mask to my ip [16:05] <wubi> ? [16:05] <dbruns> can someone help me set up some port forwarding/tunneling? I'm having trouble figure out how I need to do it [16:05] <ouyes> !pastebin [16:05] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [16:05] <joppan> dbruns: try iptables firestarter [16:05] <dbruns> I've got a jabber server at my office that has no external IP, but I can access my dev server on the same network externally how can I connect to my jabber server by tunneling through dev? [16:05] <dbruns> joppan: this is just temporary [16:06] <vivek> what is the command to check the download speed ? [16:06] <joppan> dbruns: okay [16:06] <wubi> ubottu where I can awarding of a mask to my ip [16:06] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:06] <pozic> lxgears [16:06] <pozic> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [16:06] <pozic> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual [16:06] <pozic> lsmod| grep nvidia shows the nvidia driver is loaded. [16:06] <joppan> wubi: try ifconfig switches [16:07] <dbruns> ssh -L 5223:jabberserver:5223 dbruns@devserver ? doesn't seem to work [16:07] <pozic> Why do I still get that error? [16:09] <nOStahl> hey guys. why dosnt empathy let you /j # rooms [16:10] <joppan> how to find out my download and upload speed for my ethernet wifi based internet conenction anyone [16:10] <nOStahl> speedtest.net [16:10] <fireOnSong> use system properties... :) [16:10] <w3l54666> hey guys i really need help installing my usb wifi donglr [16:11] <w3l54666> n e 1 willing to help on a 1-2-1 basis? [16:11] <joppan> nOStahl: thanks === blueghost is now known as hanging [16:12] <nOStahl> type in to terminal dmesg after you plug it in [16:12] <nOStahl> bottom line should show what the computer's doing after you plug it in [16:12] <nOStahl> then type lspci [16:12] <benedikt> I have been seeing kernel panics on my laptop after i started using a docking station. It occurs after the computer has been undocked, even one hour after. I havent found anything in the logs, and no bugs reports and nothing on google. Is there some procude one is supposed to do before I undock it from the station? [16:13] <nOStahl> and grep the card dmesg said you had [16:13] <steev> hey all, i need to chance the mac address of eth0 when it comes up (otherwise my dhcp server gives it an ip address and it can't get internet access) - I've tried adding an eth0 script to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ which is probably not written the best way, but I can't seem to figure out another way to change the mac address before networkmanager takes over (does ubuntu even source if-pre-up.d with networkmanager anymore?) [16:13] <phamha> co ai o day k [16:13] <joppan> hi [16:13] <andreas_> how do i spanish mobile internet lulz? [16:13] <joppan> hi [16:13] <Pici> !es | andreas_ [16:13] <ubottu> andreas_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [16:13] <CompanionCube> Hi, what are the main differences between the alternate (text based) installer and the server edition installer? [16:14] <andreas_> oh no, im not spanish [16:14] <blakkheim> CompanionCube: one installs the desktop version and one uses the server version [16:14] <CompanionCube> so alternate will install X, but server won't? [16:14] <nOStahl> ya [16:15] <w3l54666> nOStahl: i typed lspci [16:15] <nOStahl> see anything that looks "wifi-ish" in there [16:15] <Pici> CompanionCube: Correct. The Server CD also has a few tasksel tasks for installing mail servers, apache, etc. [16:16] <w3l54666> its saying sumat like vendor request failed [16:17] * rothsdad hi, i enjoy ubuntu [16:17] <andreas_> no you dont [16:17] <andreas_> You'd think so but you'd be wrong [16:18] <Halabund> Hi! [16:19] <andreas_> HELLO!! = D [16:19] <wubi> joppan where I can awarding of a mask to my ip? same as everyone here. what you gave me did not appear at all [ifconfig switches] [16:19] <Halabund> I have a dual-boot, Windows - Ubuntu system. In Jaunty, I never had to type a password to mount the Windows partitions, but in Karmic this is necessary. Why? Does anyone know how this can be avoided? (I do not necessarily need them to mount automatically, I just don't want to type the password for something like this.) [16:20] <w3l54666> nOStahl: paste bin here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f2f9d7c27 [16:21] <joppan> wubi: same is the situation with me everytime i access win partiiton i ahve to type my password...am also looking for a workaround maybe /etc/fstab [16:21] <benedikt> I have been seeing kernel panics on my laptop after i started using a docking station. It occurs after the computer has been undocked, even one hour after. I havent found anything in the logs, and no bugs reports and nothing on google. Is there some procude one is supposed to do before I undock it from the station? [16:22] <joppan> wubi: need more research let me c ...i ahve very slow internet conection that is my prob [16:22] <progzy> Hello ! I use twin view. Firefox is on my main screen. Problem is when a window poop-ups, it opens in the second screen :\ Is there a way to fix it please? [16:23] <nmvictor> i have a file with several lines of text and some linues containing the word nil, I wish to coment out every such linu by appending '##' at the start of the linue, is their a way i could do this with a command? [16:23] <andreas_> No, its impossible, and so is your face [16:23] <wubi> joppan tks [16:24] <ardchoille> andreas_: Please be respectable and productive [16:24] <nOStahl> looks atheros based [16:24] <nOStahl> upgrade your linux install and reboot and do it over again [16:25] <Gangrel> is there any photoshop like program for ubuntu? [16:26] <sebsebseb> Gangrel: yes [16:26] <erUSUL> !gimp | Gangrel [16:26] <ubottu> Gangrel: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information. [16:26] <Gangrel> sebsebseb, which one? [16:26] <ardchoille> Gangrel: the best I have foundis the gimp [16:26] <progzy> Gangrel: gimp [16:26] <pfifo> I was surfing the web and received a notification from "SuperCleanPCScan.com - Mozilla Firefox" that first scanned my C:\ drive and found 3 possible viruses, how do I fix this? [16:26] <w3l54666> nOStahl i updated all my linux things with the update manager === wubi is now known as good [16:26] <sebsebseb> Gangrel: yeah Gimp for example, however that does not put everything into a big frame like Photoshop, there's Gimpshop which could be an issue to install on Ubuntu. and single window mode for Gimp is meant to be ready in December [16:27] <privateabstract> pfifo, you have no viruses. It's clearly a scam. [16:27] <littlegreen> nmvictor I don't think such a thing exists, but if you are not trying to do this using CLI you can easily find the word "nil", and then go back to the start of that line and type in "##"... ofcourse, depends on what "several" means to you ;) [16:27] <sebsebseb> pfifo: Were you on Ubuntu when getting that? [16:28] <Gangrel> but is there a guide on how to use Gimp? [16:28] <pfifo> sebsebseb, yes [16:28] <sebsebseb> Gangrel: some where I guess, but there are Youtube videos for example [16:28] <privateabstract> pfifo, Ubuntu has a completely different directory structure. There is no C:\ drive. [16:28] <ardchoille> Gangrel: There's an online book here: http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html [16:28] <sebsebseb> pfifo: ok well then you can laugh at the thing you got, Desktop Linux distros do not have C drives [16:28] <Gangrel> sebsebseb, thanks a lot bro :) [16:28] <sebsebseb> Gangrel: np [16:28] <Gangrel> ardchoille, thanks a lot too :) [16:28] <ardchoille> yw [16:28] <joppan> joppan [16:29] <sebsebseb> pfifo: in fact no Linux distros have a C drive, since they aren't Windows [16:29] <pfifo> sebsebseb, what about wine? it has a c drive ~/.wine/c_drive/ can wine get a virus? [16:29] <ardchoille> pfifo: yes, wine can run Windows viruses [16:30] <sebsebseb> pfifo: some might work properly in Wine, but that's rather rare, as for other ones probably only partitaly run, and probaby won't really do much damage [16:30] <sebsebseb> pfifo: avoide using Internet apps such as browsers in your Wine install, and it's rather unlikely to get infected by anything [16:30] <arundracula> how to reset the settings of Cairo dock. I enabled autohide and now it is running in background and I can't see it [16:30] <sebsebseb> pfifo: unless you do it yourself [16:32] <Roasted_> I added the murrine PPA from this site - https://launchpad.net/~suraia/+archive/ppa - but what do I do afterwards? I added it. Now what? How do I install it? [16:32] <ardchoille> Roasted: Did you update your sources? [16:32] <pfifo> sebsebseb, Actually, seriously I think that vivo.tv thing I tried to run in wine installed some spyware, but I dont really care. Also I run IE6.5 in wine, on a rare ocassion, to debug websites [16:32] <andreas_> You'd think so but you'd be wrong. [16:33] <dante__> hi [16:33] <Helsinkiii> hi guys. i keep getting this error whenever i start add/remov : [16:33] <Helsinkiii> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'. [16:33] <Helsinkiii> but everytime i try their suggestions, i get more errors [16:33] <nibbler> Helsinkiii, nopaste the errors [16:33] <outer_space> can you hibernate, and reboot into windows, and then un-hibernate back into ubuntu without losing all the stuff i had open? [16:34] <sebsebseb> pfifo: start over with a new .wine then. you know hidden folder in home? you don't need to re install the Wine program itself, just get it using a new .wine [16:34] <andreas_> oobantoo [16:34] <sebsebseb> pfifo: IE 6.5 did you mean 5.5 ? [16:34] <cyberoidx> Helsinkiii, does the package manager start at all? [16:34] <Myrtti> !offtopic | andreas_ [16:34] <ubottu> andreas_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [16:34] <andreas_> I love windows [16:34] <jeeaar> hello everybody, ive just been looking through the ubuntu forums to get my webcam working on a sony vaio (motioneye camera). The cam works, ive tested it with xawtv and cheese webcam booth. Still not working for flash chat cam sites though, could somebody tell me how to get it working? [16:35] <andreas_> windows 7 is a great innovation, truely a great OS [16:35] <Tresmius> hey [16:35] <blakkheim> !ot | andreas_ [16:35] <sebsebseb> !troll | andreas_ [16:35] <ubottu> andreas_: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel [16:35] <Myrtti> andreas_: please contribute to the channel productively, you're not doing so now [16:35] <Helsinkiii> cyberoidx: add/remove, you mean? [16:35] <cyberoidx> Helsinkiii, yep [16:35] <Helsinkiii> cyberoidx: it closes before i browse through anything [16:35] <andreas_> ok, i'll leaqve [16:36] <jeeaar> hello everybody, ive just been looking through the ubuntu forums to get my webcam working on a sony vaio (motioneye camera). The cam works, ive tested it with xawtv and cheese webcam booth. Still not working for flash chat cam sites though, could somebody tell me how to get it working? [16:36] <Tresmius> Everytime I leave my computer idle for a while and come back it seems to freeze up and then it doesn't boot and I have to update grub in recovery mode for it to boot normally... [16:36] <pfifo> sebsebseb, Im not sure, I dont have it installed atm. I use ies4linux, whichever version i can get to work and have flash support. [16:36] <cyberoidx> Helsinkiii, don't browse, Edit> Software sources [16:36] <Helsinkiii> cyberoidx: i need this fixed rly urgently i'm kinda panicking [16:36] <privateabstract> andreas_, go to the ubuntu offtopic channel to discuss that. [16:36] <jeeaar> pfifo, was that last one meant for me? [16:36] <pfifo> jeeaar, no, <sebsebseb> pfifo: IE 6.5 did you mean 5.5 ? [16:36] <cyberoidx> why off topic, isn't #windows good? Hell I LOVE windows too [16:37] <privateabstract> cyberoidx, I hate it. The only reason I still have it is because Wine doesn't run DirectX as well as I'd like. [16:37] <jeeaar> pfifo, my webcam problem seems to be flash related, do you think running a browser through wine would solve it? [16:37] <dante__> (sry my english) folowing this http://www.techthrob.com/2009/03/02/enabling-hardware-sensors-in-linux/ i get this error :FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-19-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): Device or resource busy in the sudo modprobe [module name] step [16:37] <dante__> anyone can help me with that? [16:38] <cyberoidx> privateabstract, tried the play games app? [16:38] <lsdluna> hi is there anyone here who has had experience with installing alfresco or any other collaboration software/tool that can give me a bit of assistance please? I am having issues executing a .sh script to start the server with Alfresco, however I am more than willing to install another collaboration software/tool if someone is willing to guide me through it? [16:38] <cyberoidx> privateabstract, PlayonLinux [16:38] <JediMaster> hi guys, I'm trying to keep an audit trail of changes to a text field in a database, that in itself isn't hard, what I need to do is only keep the changes rather than the entire content every time there is a change, so I'm trying to find some sort of "diff" code, xdiff appears to be PECL only and this needs to be portable, so I've found the PEAR class Text_Diff, which seems to do what I want, however I also want to be able to revert to [16:38] <JediMaster> an older version and it doesn't seem to be able to apply/revert diffs like the "patch" command can, anyone have any ideas/suggestions? [16:38] <cyberoidx> brb [16:38] <pfifo> jeeaar, you need to go into flash privacy settings and auto-allow the websites to access flash. tinychat, however will not work, but others will [16:38] <privateabstract> cyberoidx, I've tried Cedega but that worked horrible. I'll have to give that one a go instead. [16:39] * JediMaster wonders why he has posted that in #ubuntu and not #php [16:39] <sebsebseb> pfifo: It's time for Internet Explorer 6 to die, Microsoft don't want people to use it anymore, and Google are having more services stopping supporting it, and so on. So if your still making for that, you shoudn't need to anymore. IE7+ though yes [16:39] <mix22891> hello. im trying to burn .iso and this is the number6 cd that failed. why? [16:39] <JediMaster> just ignore me xchat decided to open up the wrong channel by default on connect =) [16:39] <regeya> amen sebsebseb [16:39] <regeya> way ahead of you JediMaster [16:39] <dante__> help please [16:40] <regeya> !help | dante__ [16:40] <ubottu> dante__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:40] <nibbler> mix22891, use the command "wodim /path/to/isofile.iso" and nopaste the output if it fails again [16:40] <privateabstract> sebsebseb, a good web developer will be W3 compliant and therefore supporting IE is a good idea. [16:40] <nibbler> mix22891, the command i gave you should aswell burn the cd - in the commandline [16:40] <regeya> oy vey...ie6, W3 compliant...headache begins. [16:40] <pfifo> sebsebseb, not my call, what my boss says goes, but he agrees with us as well, its the clients that can't figure it out. (sometimes we fire them over it tho) [16:41] <privateabstract> regeya, what's so headache-y about it? All my sites seem to work with IE6. [16:41] <m0ll0i> ciao [16:41] <jeeaar> pfifo, i dont think its an issue with privacy settings - they all tell me no cam detected [16:41] <regeya> I see how this is going to go, so I'm just going to leave. [16:41] <pfifo> jeeaar, dose the adobe site detect that you have a cam? [16:41] <mix22891> nibbler im tryin to figuer what are you sayin but im not so experens to ubuntu [16:41] <dante__> following this http://www.techthrob.com/2009/03/02/enabling-hardware-sensors-in-linux/ , i get this error :FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-19-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): Device or resource busy , in the sudo modprobe [module name] step [16:42] <sebsebseb> privateabstract: Depends on website and so on, but a lot of websites could quite easilly take advantage of later web standards coding that IE 6 does not support. Anyway off topic now [16:42] <pfifo> jeeaar, also, where did you get flash? what version? what version of ubuntu? [16:42] <skrite> hey all, someone suggest a tool that will allow me to search each file in a recursive directories for a block of text within that file? [16:42] <good> why my pidgin does not work my webcam? [16:42] <Roasted_> I added the murrine PPA from this site - https://launchpad.net/~suraia/+archive/ppa - but what do I do afterwards? I added it. Now what? How do I install it? [16:42] <regeya> yes, it's amazing that ie6-targeted websites all work with ie6. :-D it's a subject that's been hashed to death and offtopic here. [16:42] <linuxius> hi! I'm looking for a programm that can calculate the "area under the curve". Who knows one? [16:42] <privateabstract> sebsebseb, that's what JavaScript is for, to detect who's using what and give them content accordingly. [16:43] <blakkheim> good: /j #pidgin [16:43] <Tresmius> I have to go now but if anyone can help with a webcam problem please reply http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8845864 [16:43] <pfifo> skrite, I have a tool in 'geany' that dose that [16:43] <good> yes [16:43] <blakkheim> skrite: grep [16:43] <nixpet> hey guys, anyone know a program that you can take pictures with your webcam? [16:43] <nibbler> mix22891, ok, open a commandline/shell, this box like the "dos box" in worse operatingsystems. there, call the programm "wodim" with the isofile as parameter (full path to it) - this will also burn your cd, but with maybe more output and debuging info. if you dont have wodim installed, install it with your packetmanager [16:43] <blakkheim> nixpet: cheese [16:43] <jeeaar> pfifo, i got flash from the macromedia website - i beleive its flash 10 and jaunty [16:43] <ardchoille> Roasted: why did you add a PPA when gtk2-engines-murrine is in the official repos? [16:43] <nixpet> ty! [16:43] <sebsebseb> privateabstract: That won't always work since some people will have javascript disabled in their browser or be using a text only browser that does not support it. Anyway off topic now [16:44] <mix22891> nibbler did you mean terminal? [16:44] <skrite> blakkheim, pfifo, thanks [16:44] <dante__> should i ask it again? hehehe [16:44] <nibbler> mix22891, yes [16:44] <dante__> following this http://www.techthrob.com/2009/03/02/enabling-hardware-sensors-in-linux/ , i get this error :FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-19-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): Device or resource busy , in the sudo modprobe [module name] step, any suggestions [16:44] <dante__> ? [16:44] <good> <blakkheim> because I like him or not to support? [16:44] <ardchoille> Roasted_: why did you add a PPA when gtk2-engines-murrine is in the official repos? [16:44] <mix22891> it was disk number 6 that failed [16:44] <skrite> nixpet, i read about a program called motion that will use a web cam to take pictures only when it detects movement [16:45] <shashwat> ? [16:45] <skrite> nixpet, like a security cam or such [16:45] <pfifo> jeeaar, dose this work? http://oldes.multimedia.cz/swf/mx-webcam.html [16:45] <nixpet> skrite very cool let me look into that [16:45] <jeeaar> no. [16:45] <jeeaar> pfifo, no. [16:46] <texas319> lol forgot to log off [16:46] <texas319> whats up people [16:46] <skrite> yeah, nixpet, watch your settings. I left it on over a weekend and it filled a small hard drive with pictures of each time our stupid cat walked in or out of camera view [16:46] <pfifo> jeeaar, I have no idea what the problem is then, try upgrading to 9.10, or wait for 10.04 and upgrade. It may just start working. [16:46] <blakkheim> good: what is your native language? it might be easier for you to join a channel specific for that language and ask your question [16:46] <sebsebseb> pfifo: oh ok [16:46] <Roasted_> ardchoille, because I was downloading themes on my system and they werent looking antyhing like they were int he screenshots. Somebody on the forums told me I just need the murrine engine. So, I went to download the murrine engine. But the more I read (plus what you just told me) it suggests I already have it since Im on karmic - which begs the obvious question: why do my themes look retarded when they look good in the screenshot? [16:46] <nixpet> skrite. thats funny! [16:46] <skrite> nixpet, yeah, good luck [16:47] <nixpet> skrite, thanks! [16:47] <nibbler> mix22891, so it failed again? paste the output to a webpage pls (nopaste) [16:47] <linuxius> hi! I'm looking for a programm that can calculate the "area under the curve". Who knows one? [16:47] <jeeaar> pfifo, is there a way i can revert back to an older version of flash? It worked fine before updates a few months back - unfortunately i dont recall what got updated... could have been video drivers or something [16:47] <ardchoille> Roasted_: apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-murrine # is that package installed? [16:47] <nixpet> Oh i also have another question, any program similar to microsoft project available for ubunut? [16:47] <sebsebseb> jeeaar: Flash is the kind of program you will want to have latest version of really, since it can get some pretty serious security issues. [16:47] <bowen> Hi, I am trying to get a start up script to work, i have a file /etc/init.d/blah (with 755 permissions) with the contents http://pastebin.com/m4131b7c6. I have run "update-rc.d -f blah defaults". But when I reboot the script is not executing, can one of you help me out? [16:47] <dante__> how to get ati grafic card temps in ubuntu 9.10? [16:48] <Roasted_> ardchoille, I think I may have discovered my problem. [16:48] <ardchoille> Roasted: What was it? [16:48] <BluesKaj> Roasted_, your themes are very configurable colourwise etc , so don't let the default settings put you off [16:48] <Roasted_> ardchoille, the themes I was looking at was requiring a different engine than murrine. Somebody mentioned murrine in the comments so I assumed tha twas what the theme ran on. [16:48] <mix22891> no help in my native language channal #ubuntu-il :( [16:48] <jeeaar> also, how can i check to be sure of which versioin of ubuntu im using? [16:48] <chamuscas> What happens when i type this ( mkdir ~/.Game). I just want to know where the .Game folder goes. [16:48] <ardchoille> Roasted_: Ah, that'll do it [16:48] <Roasted_> ardchoille, typically do theme engines get installed by default, such as clearlooks, murrine, etfc? [16:49] <photocopy> is there any way I can generate a text list of all the folders within a given folder? [16:49] <blakkheim> photocopy: ls /dir > list.txt [16:49] <sebsebseb> !version | jeeaar [16:49] <ubottu> jeeaar: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » [16:49] <dante__> how to get ati grafic card temps in ubuntu 9.10? [16:49] <ardchoille> Roasted_: only for themes that you download from the repos [16:49] <blakkheim> !repeat | dante__ [16:49] <ubottu> dante__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [16:49] <Roasted_> ardchoille, so I must have installed a theme via repos in order to grab the murrine engine? [16:49] <ardchoille> yes [16:49] <good> <blakkheim> ok tks [16:50] <jeeaar> !update | jeeaar [16:50] <jeeaar> ... [16:50] <jeeaar> haha, how can i force the update window? [16:50] <dante__> ! ati [16:50] <sebsebseb> !fishing | jeeaar [16:50] <ardchoille> Roasted_: it was likely a dependency of a themes package [16:50] <dante__> !ati [16:50] <blakkheim> jeeaar: force it to what? [16:50] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | jeeaar [16:50] <jeeaar> to run updates. [16:50] <dante__> !upgrade [16:50] <photocopy> blakkheim: ls /dir > list.txt where will the list.txt appear? [16:50] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test [16:50] <blakkheim> jeeaar: just run sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade [16:50] * Blaize gives ikonia a big dictionary [16:50] <ubottu> jeeaar, please see my private message [16:50] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [16:50] <ubottu> jeeaar: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [16:50] <photocopy> blakkheim nevermind i found it [16:50] <ubottu> jeeaar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [16:50] <Roasted_> ardchoille, do you happen to know if the "x" themes are official, such as karmic-x, lucid-x, etc [16:51] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:51] <blakkheim> photocopy: ls /directory/of/files > /where/you/want/the/list.txt [16:51] <mix22891> nibbler how to post in nopast? [16:51] <jeeaar> thank you guys [16:51] <AdvoWork> im trying to move a big folder from a location to another, im doing mv /dir /home/dir and its giving me loads of mv: failed to preserve ownership for `/home/full-677/sys/db_schema.xml': Permission denied errors [16:51] <AdvoWork> any ideas please [16:51] <ardchoille> Roasted_: no idea, but you can search the repos with: apt-cache search them_name_here [16:51] <blakkheim> AdvoWork: try with sudo [16:51] <PingFloyd> AdvoWork: you may need to do the mv as root [16:52] <nibbler> mix22891, http://nopaste.info/ here for example [16:52] <Roasted_> ardchoille, but are theme engines at least included as installable in the repos, such as murrine, etc? [16:52] <pau> Olaa [16:52] <sebsebseb> !es | pau [16:52] <azahara> ola [16:52] <ardchoille> Roasted_: yes: apt-cache search -n murrine [16:52] <ubottu> pau: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [16:52] <AdvoWork> blakkheim, , PingFloyd same problem if i do sudo before it [16:52] <azahara> qen eres [16:52] <tdskate> hi all [16:52] <azahara> ? [16:53] <azahara> pau [16:53] <chamuscas> OK, new and better question. How do i remove a ( /."name" ) thing? [16:53] <pau> una niña y tu?? [16:53] <FunkyWeasel> Had an old bug greet me on a new pc today - good old screensaver-crashing-when-you-type-in-the-wrong-password. [16:53] <azahara> amm [16:53] <tdskate> small question if i may [16:53] <Roasted_> ardchoille, well Im not that curious about murrine in particular. Im just wondering if the general consensus is often to include the engines as installable by the repos. I cant imagine it being that user friendly to require new users to download PPAs and update and install and then grab the htemes - ya know? [16:53] <sebsebseb> tdskate: Just ask :) [16:53] <tdskate> how do i find out my file system format ? [16:53] <FunkyWeasel> Has anyone ever experienced the gnome-screensaver crash-on-wrong-password and, heaven forbid, found a solution? [16:54] <ardchoille> Roasted_: yeah, there are several theme engines in the repos and are installed with theme packages [16:54] <sebsebseb> tdskate: The type of file system for a partition you mean? [16:54] <blakkheim> tdskate: df -hT [16:54] <tdskate> sebsebseb yes === Wolf is now known as Guest48367 [16:54] <ardchoille> Roasted_: always check the repos before adding a PPA [16:54] <tdskate> blakkheim: thanks ! [16:54] <AdvoWork> PingFloyd, blakkheim any further ideas please? [16:54] <Roasted_> ardchoille, only reason I didnt was I was reading in the comments that the theme required a newer version of the engine that wasnt in the repos. hence hwy I just added it [16:54] <blakkheim> AdvoWork: ls -l the file that is giving the error [16:55] <FunkyWeasel> Not that I don't love rebooting if I am stupid enough to get my screensaver password wrong, of course. I *swear* I reboot more often than I ever did with XP. [16:55] <[hudnix]> why does the 9.10 installer inist on using nvidia softraid when it's turned off in the BIOS? I'm trying to install to a second disk, with windows on the first disk, but the installer insists on mirroring the drives! [16:55] <ardchoille> Roasted_: Ah, makes sense [16:55] <Helsinkiii> cyberoidx: i can't [16:55] <Helsinkiii> cyberoidx add/remove closes on me [16:55] <diago> FunkyWeasel: what do you mean [16:55] <Dravekx> hwo do i find a file? [16:55] <Dravekx> how* [16:56] <tdskate> ok, so i installed ubuntu via windows, now i'm looking for a way to get rid of the windows installation+boot screen and make the partition bigger ... [16:56] <blakkheim> Dravekx: man findd [16:56] <blakkheim> Dravekx: man find [16:56] <Dravekx> k [16:56] <BluesKaj> hudnix, disconnect the first drive with windows i presiume and install ubuntu on the second one if that's what you want to do [16:56] <ardchoille> Roasted_: Also realize that someone else's "new version" may be our current version [16:56] <shashwat> hi dad [16:56] <sebsebseb> tdskate: Via Windows you mean Wubi? If so oh no [16:56] <blakkheim> tdskate: you need to do a real install, not wubi [16:56] <rajiv_> hi shashu [16:56] <sebsebseb> tdskate: There is some program for converting a Wubi install into a real partition, never used it, and not sure what it's called [16:56] <AdvoWork> blakkheim, drwxrwxrwx 6 test test 79 2010-02-17 21:48 full-677 is it because im moving it to a drive that was mounted by: //IP/dir$ /home/dir cifs exec [16:57] <Roasted_> ardchoille, description of the lucid-x theme I was downloading from gnome-look. THIS WILL NOT WORK IF YOU DONT USE MURRINE-ENGINE FROM GIT!!! YOU WILL GET IT FROM HERE: [16:57] <Roasted_> thats why I took it as I need to download it from the link he specified [16:57] <blakkheim> AdvoWork: yes that could be why. see if you can mv or cp it to a local directory [16:57] <bombel> (Ubuntu 9.10) hi everyone! I dont know what I did to my system, but, now, when I press a key from the keyboard, continuosly, the mouse doesnt respond. When I stop pressing the key, the mouse works again. It seems that the system is not able to hadle both mouse and keyboard at the same time.. What should I do to solve this problem? [16:57] <mix22891> nibbler http://nopaste.info/69e41d169f.html [16:57] <FunkyWeasel> diago: On an older pc gnome-screensaver would lock up with the message 'checking...' if I typed in the wrong password when unlocking the screensaver. Now the same thing is happening on my current pc. (The comment about rebooting combines my sound locking in a loop once a week which also can ONLY BE RESOLVED by a reboot) [16:57] <mix22891> this is the error log [16:57] <Helsinkiii> guys i get a Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [16:57] <Helsinkiii> error [16:58] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: your trying to use Synaptic? [16:58] <ardchoille> Roasted_: this theme? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Lucid+X+%28aka+Karmic+X%29?content=117640 [16:58] <Helsinkiii> aptitude [16:58] <Roasted_> yes [16:58] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: ok do you have Synaptic open as well? [16:58] <diago> FunkyWeasel: you can of course restart any service without rebooting. But the lock ups sound strange [16:58] <blakkheim> Helsinkiii: did you use sudo? [16:58] <BluesKaj> Helsinkiii, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock [16:58] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: when i use computer janitor i also egt Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock [16:58] <ardchoille> Roasted_: Notice the word "alpha" in the theme title [16:58] <Roasted_> ardchoille, yes [16:59] <ardchoille> ok [16:59] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: that looked a bit similar to something I know about, but I guess it's not that [16:59] <Roasted_> ardchoille, I was just trying it out, because I am running karmic X. I was trying to see what was different from Karmic X to Lucid X. [16:59] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: someone said it's a LOCK file i need to delete, but i dont have permissions [16:59] <Dravekx> crap [16:59] <nibbler> mix22891, is this complete? especially the last lines are important [16:59] <FunkyWeasel> diago: Yeah, so I heard. Pity it's not true when the sound gets stuck into a repeating loop. Likewise if the screensaver gets stuck in a 'checking password' loop you have to do a hardware reset. [16:59] <Roasted_> ardchoille, what theme do you run? [16:59] <Dravekx> I installed a perl script somewhere and cant find it on my server :( [16:59] <sebsebseb> !permissions | Helsinkiii [16:59] <ubottu> Helsinkiii: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [17:00] <Dravekx> find isnt working [17:00] <LiBen> hellow [17:00] <diago> FunkyWeasel: ctl+alt+F2 doesn't bring up a console? [17:00] <ardchoille> Roasted_: I make my own themes: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2010/01/my-gnome-themes.html [17:00] <FunkyWeasel> diago: I have found NOTHING that stop the soundloop problem apart from rebooting, which was the only recommendation I got in the past from this chan. Which is fair enough - it's nice to know that sound is so broken on ibex for my pc that I don't have to waste time looking for a solution, if you want a silver lining. [17:00] <blakkheim> !ot | ardchoille [17:00] <nibbler> Dravekx, you dont want to use find i guess, but locate [17:00] <ubottu> ardchoille: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [17:00] <FunkyWeasel> diago: nope [17:01] <diago> strange what is the hardware? === bombel is now known as jessica_it [17:01] <jessica_it> (Ubuntu 9.10) hi everyone! I dont know what I did to my system, but, now, when I press a key from the keyboard, continuosly, the mouse doesnt respond. When I stop pressing the key, the mouse works again. It seems that the system is not able to hadle both mouse and keyboard at the same time.. What should I do to solve this problem? [17:01] <Roasted_> ardchoille, Ill have to check them out. I have a hard time finding a theme that is useable AND looks good. [17:01] <ardchoille> blakkheim: was answering question about gnome themes and engines, it was not ot. Please discuss with ops rather than a wrong trigger [17:01] <stanley_robertso> hi all [17:01] <tdskate> has anyone here every tried putting music on his iphone, via ubuntu ? [17:02] <FunkyWeasel> diago: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, using nVidia drivers. I've since rebooted (it's my work PC so I don't have the luxury of taking a few hours to research) so I can't really run any additional tests. [17:02] <diago> Roasted_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/search/label/themes [17:02] <blakkheim> ardchoille: posting a link to your blog where you make themes is ubuntu support? [17:02] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: i rly need this fixed.........i'm panicking [17:02] <loux> hello tous le monde [17:02] <r3l1c> Where are the gtk2 libraries stored? I am trying to install hydra from source and it can find them. [17:02] <diago> did you say ibex? FunkyWeasel [17:03] <Pici> !fr | loux [17:03] <ubottu> loux: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois [17:03] <Roasted_> diago, meh... not a fan of that one [17:04] <FunkyWeasel> diago: Yup [17:04] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: Broken package maangers can be a bit of a pain to sort out. What version of Ubuntu are you on? [17:04] <Dravekx> how can I setup a command to run on boot? [17:04] <diago> FunkyWeasel: why not upgrade? [17:05] <diago> My Dell laptop ran awful on ibex but runs great with Karmic [17:05] <magn3ts_> Is there an easy way to move a dm-crypt'ed home folder to an external partition? [17:05] <magn3ts_> and by "external" I simply mean different than my root partition? [17:05] <blakkheim> ardchoille: please don't PM me [17:05] <FunkyWeasel> diago: It's a work pc - in short I don't have time atm. [17:06] <diago> you can run an upgrade and keep working, then restart [17:06] <diago> when you have a chance [17:06] <FunkyWeasel> diago: Yeah, key 5 words there ;) [17:06] <diago> anyway, I understand... it took a while to upgrade my work pc [17:06] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb 9.04 [17:07] <mix22891> nebbler yes. this is it all of the error log' [17:07] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: That's what I thought [17:07] <raendeer> hey all, installing hardy server lts from usb flash drive.. there's a sata harddrive in the box that already has linux loaded up on it, so I know it's compatable. the installer is only showing the flash drive for partitioning, and I don't see anything in dmesg about the harddrive has sdX/hdX.. where else could it be? [17:07] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: What were you trying to remove in computer janitor? [17:07] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb; i closed all synaptics, deleted config.dat, and the lock file, tried again but now new errors [17:07] <FunkyWeasel> diago: Ideally I'd like to do a fresh install rather than building on top of cruft, but I'd need another box to do that. [17:07] <Helsinkiii> i was trying to remove compiz and the python groundwork for it i think [17:07] <Helsinkiii> because it kept saying there was an issue with it for some reason [17:08] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: removing compiz what? pythong groundwork what are you on about? [17:08] <AdvoWork> when doing mv and when a file says failed to preserve ownership, iy still moves right? [17:08] <reisio> raendeer: was talking to someone else the other day who had that same problem... installer partioner didn't see the drive [17:08] <FunkyWeasel> diago: But I can't really allow my pc to get to a potentially unusable state atm. [17:08] <diago> FunkyWeasel: You could do an install to an external and get it ready on that machine [17:08] <GSF1200S> anyone have thunderbird 3 working? For some reason im getting a segmantation fault [17:08] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: Why 9.04 not 9.10? [17:08] <nibbler> AdvoWork, you are moving to a fat, vfat or ntfs system? [17:08] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb compizdonfig-settings-manager and python-compizconfig [17:08] <raendeer> reisio: it didn't detect the usb, either. I had to mount it in /cdrom before the installer could go [17:08] <AdvoWork> nibbler, its a freenas server, mounted with cifs exec [17:08] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: i havent had time to install yet [17:09] <raendeer> reisio: did you work out a fix with them? [17:09] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: my cd drive busted anyways i ordered one today [17:09] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: Maybe just do a clean install of 9.10 when you can [17:09] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb i will [17:09] <nibbler> AdvoWork, ah ok. it just means that the target FS does not support or does not allow setting of ownerships. files shoul dbe there completely, without permissions/owners etc [17:09] <AdvoWork> nibbler, ahh ok, thats cool, thankyou [17:09] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb they're shipping the dvd burner today [17:09] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: i would have done a usb install but i can't install the utility! [17:10] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: What about data and such? can back up easilly or? [17:10] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: all data has been backed up [17:10] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: 2 months ago my 2nd internal HD died and lost everything [17:10] <Helsinkiii> i learned my lesson [17:10] <paloma> hola [17:10] <FunkyWeasel> diago: True. Hopefully the company's springing for a laptop for us soonish though [17:10] <Helsinkiii> sebsebseb: i feel like it's ubuntu that caused it whenever it would mount it [17:10] <reisio> raendeer: trying to remember :p [17:10] <paloma> hola [17:11] <reisio> raendeer: I think he gave up, actually [17:11] <paloma> k tal? [17:11] <ardchoille> !es | paloma [17:11] <ubottu> paloma: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:11] <reisio> I was telling him to at least try another distro [17:11] <mix22891> Helsinkiii never storage/save stuff on the H.D [17:11] <reisio> another (distro/)installer* [17:12] <Helsinkiii> mix22891: i know [17:12] <paloma> k tal estais [17:12] <Helsinkiii> most of it was music [17:12] <Helsinkiii> all my work is saved on WebCT [17:12] <mix22891> Helsinkiii i put it all on Diskonkey! [17:12] <Helsinkiii> diskonkey? [17:12] <Helsinkiii> "googling" [17:12] <paloma> hola [17:13] <mix22891> yes [17:13] <sebsebseb> Helsinkiii: oh right well 9.10 is a good one for many people to be starting with a clean install of really. [17:13] <mix22891> better to save stuff on Diskonkey! [17:13] <magn3ts_> Is there at least a guide to how karmic handles home dir encryption? [17:13] <mr_daniel> I am looking for a XML editor with autocompletion feature. The Editor should read the .xsd file which determines the XML schema of the document, and then assist me to speed up the process of writing XML documents [17:14] <mr_daniel> which editor has such XML-autocompletion features? [17:15] <mix22891> Helsinkiii even DVD's are scrached and all the importent stuff is gone [17:15] <magn3ts_> Maybe it would just be better to backup sources.list, dpkg -l, ~ and reinstall? [17:15] <reisio> mr_daniel: might check vim.org for a plugin [17:15] <sebsebseb> mix22891: We were to late they had already left [17:15] <raendeer> is there anything special I need to install to have a SATA drive detected by the hardy installer? [17:15] <reisio> raendeer: not ordinarily [17:16] <reisio> raendeer: I'd check the forums or bug tracker [17:16] <a-computer> i cant play games such as tuxkart on one of my computers is their something im missing to download [17:16] <Gangrel> is there any map cartographer available for ubuntu? [17:16] <reisio> Gangrel: gmt [17:16] <sebsebseb> a-computer: Graphics card driver? [17:16] <reisio> Gangrel: xrmap is also good for less impressive things [17:16] <raendeer> reisio: I don't get what the issue could be.. I installed centos to it on friday and it found the harddrive. googling is giving me people having trouble installing to a usb hdd [17:16] <usuario_> hola [17:16] <Gangrel> reisio, gmt? [17:16] <sebsebseb> !es | usuario_ [17:16] <ubottu> usuario_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:16] <reisio> Gangrel: gmt [17:17] <mr_daniel> I am not a big fan of vim reisio [17:17] <a-computer> dont know that info off had sebsebseb [17:17] <reisio> Gangrel: http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/gmt_examples.html [17:17] <mr_daniel> I hope there is also an gui-editor alternative [17:17] <reisio> mr_daniel: and that's why it takes you so long to code things :p [17:17] <mix22891> usb hdd sucks! use Diskonkey! [17:17] <reisio> mr_daniel: oh, well Vim has a GUI version [17:17] <reisio> gVim [17:17] <sebsebseb> a-computer: find out if one is avaialble and if so install it system > administration > hardware drivers [17:17] <Gangrel> reisio, where do i find for download gmt and xrmap? [17:17] <reisio> Gangrel: they should both be in Ubuntu's repos [17:17] <reisio> I would be dumbfounded if they weren't [17:17] <a-computer> k thanks [17:18] <sebsebseb> a-computer: np [17:18] <reisio> gmt is so awesome :p [17:18] <ardchoille> Gangrel: apt-cache search -n gmt # that what you were after? [17:19] <Gangrel> ahhh found it :) [17:19] <LordHawke13> m1nh2uan, Tell TJ to stop ditting around [17:19] <Gangrel> thanks once again === zleap1 is now known as zleap [17:19] <m1nh2uan> ah nah [17:19] <a-computer> sebsebseb it did not detect any hardware...... [17:19] <LordHawke13> m1nh2uan, ROFL!! :) [17:19] <djnick89> can someone help me p,lease [17:19] <sebsebseb> !ask | djnick89 [17:19] <ubottu> djnick89: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:19] <DefineByte> anyone else having problems with lirc? seems the irw and irpty utilities are missing (maybe others). [17:20] <LordHawke13> djnick89, shoot. [17:20] <djnick89> !ask [17:20] <sebsebseb> a-computer: ok don't know [17:20] <sebsebseb> a-computer: maybe you got Intel graphics card and so no driver available there [17:20] <LordHawke13> djnick89, Your question is. . . ? [17:21] <mix22891> ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US! [17:21] <reisio> set us up [17:21] <a-computer> sebsebseb how do i find out what kind of graphics card i have [17:21] <djnick89> im trying get kde to work not work 4 me ksplashx: double free or corruption (out) [17:21] <sebsebseb> a-computer: lspci in the terminal I think will mention it [17:21] <Trek> !ot | mix22891 [17:21] <ubottu> mix22891: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [17:22] <sebsebseb> djnick89: #kubuntu [17:22] <djnick89> ty [17:22] <sebsebseb> djnick89: np [17:23] <dhastha> need help: how to configure and install heartbeat in ubuntu 9.10 [17:23] <sebsebseb> dhastha: What's that? [17:23] <reisio> linux-ha.org === orion_ is now known as Guest85064 [17:24] <raendeer> ugh, enabled something that is supposed to clear up the sata issue and now it took out usb installation [17:24] <ardchoille> dhastha: I see heartbeat in the karmic repos [17:24] <jad> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path [17:24] <jad> any idea what this means ? [17:24] <jackbrown1> hi there [17:24] <jackbrown1> i have an .mp4 video file but i'm unable to open it [17:24] <jackbrown1> i installed VLC [17:24] <ardchoille> jad: absolute path = /path/to/file [17:25] <reisio> jad: /usr/sbin/sshd re-exec ? [17:25] <jackbrown1> and it doesn't works [17:25] <jad> i know [17:25] <jackbrown1> with the default player i see a bad video [17:25] <dhastha> sebsebseb: HA Clustering [17:25] <jackbrown1> Anybody can help me? [17:25] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Go to the Ubuntu software center and install the restricted extras. [17:25] <sebsebseb> dhastha: Don't know what that is [17:25] <a-computer> sebsebseb i did lspci various lines shown which line would i be looking for [17:25] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 thanks [17:25] <dhastha> ardchoillle: can u know how to do that? [17:25] <Pici> dhastha: #ubuntu-server would be more appropriate for that discussion [17:26] <ardchoille> dhastha: I don't know what heartbeat is but it is in the repos: apt-cache search -n heartbeat [17:26] <DefineByte> ok, scratch that, I think lirc is just failing to start and throwing a file/directory not found when i run irw [17:26] <ardchoille> Pici: Ah, ok, didn't realize that [17:26] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, A lot of codecs aren't installed by default because they are 'non-free'. But all you have to do is go there and install them. Just search "Restricted Extras" [17:26] <dhastha> Pici: can u tell me how to do that? [17:26] <Pici> dhastha: /join #ubuntu-server [17:27] <jackbrown1> LordHawkes13 i found Restricted Extras in Ubuntus Software Center and i'm installing it [17:27] <Bilnao> Hello, someone knows where is the conf file for NotifyOSD ? I want change layout for messages [17:27] <jackbrown1> LordHawkes13 other kind of AVI mp3 and DIVX works anyway, it's just this mp4 and the flv that i'm downloading [17:27] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, There should be like 5 or 6 to install, each for different filetypes. [17:27] <jeeaar> hey guys, lsb_release -a tells me im at 9.04, im fully updated and the update manager is not giving me the option to install 9.10 [17:27] <cuatrobrazos> hola [17:27] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Yeah That's right, GO ahead and install them all. [17:27] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 5 or 6 ? [17:27] <mix22891> nibbler ? [17:28] <cuatrobrazos> im speak spanish [17:28] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 ok thanks [17:28] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, 5 or 6 different "Restricted Extras" packages [17:28] <cuatrobrazos> hola [17:28] <flux> hello. how would one bypass the setting up partitions-stage of the installation and manually set up the root volume for the next step in installation? [17:28] <ardchoille> !es | cuatrobrazos [17:28] <ubottu> cuatrobrazos: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:28] <cuatrobrazos> que [17:28] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, I'm at school. I'm extremely bored. [17:28] <reisio> flux: why do you ask? [17:28] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 i found just one Restricted Extras in Ubuntu Software Center and i'm installing it ? Where should i find others ? [17:28] <flux> I'm trying to install on a gpt partition that is in a raid-volume that is in a gpt partition [17:28] <cuatrobrazos> es que no se como cambiar el nombre de usuario [17:28] <flux> reisio, and I have all the partitions set up in the hd [17:29] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Just search restricted extras. You should get quite a few. [17:29] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 i'm sorry that you are bored i'm trying to learn C/C++ i found a video guide [17:29] <jeeaar> thank you guys [17:29] <jeeaar> hey guys, lsb_release -a tells me im at 9.04, im fully updated and the update manager is not giving me the option to install 9.10 [17:29] <a-computer> sebsebseb i could past the lspci information .....but its around 13 lines long [17:29] <cuatrobrazos> hola [17:29] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 In te Ubuntu Center Software there is justo ne where should i find othere ? [17:29] <cuatrobrazos> me ayudais [17:29] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, I'd love to learn C++. Send me the guide. jerade.hensleygmail.com [17:29] <alberto> alberto [17:29] <flux> reisio, I'm trying the GPT way because I have a couple of those 4k sector drive, and gpt gives a nice accurate control over the first used sector [17:29] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 it's in ITalian .......................... [17:29] <mix22891> i learn c# [17:29] <sebsebseb> a-computer: I can't really help you, but someone else can, and that info will be useful for them [17:30] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, They should all come up when yo.. . [17:30] <mix22891> visual c# [17:30] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Italian? [17:30] <alberto> ola [17:30] <sebsebseb> !es | alberto [17:30] <LordHawke13> . . . [17:30] <ubottu> alberto: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:30] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 yes my language [17:30] <a-computer> k [17:30] <LordHawke13> . . . [17:30] <alberto> ola [17:30] <mix22891> i have my own copyright sofware on my name :) [17:30] <sebsebseb> !pastebin | a-computer [17:30] <ubottu> a-computer: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:30] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, I've never searched in Italian so I wouldn't know. . . [17:30] <alberto> alberto [17:31] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, sorry. I've always searched in English. [17:31] <jackbrown1> LordHawke13 do i have to reboot ? [17:31] <BezNalogov> Hello people, I use ubuntu 9.10 and have installed a ldap server. In the past there was a file /etc/slapd.conf, but with this release that has changed. to cn=config. Now I need to change something in my config, which would be in /etc/slapd.conf to add "schemacheck on", but how can I activate this option with this new configuration system? [17:31] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Shouldn't. Should only have to find the Italian names of the packages. Try changing you language preferences to search for the packages then changing them back. [17:32] <nastas> hi all [17:32] <reisio> hi [17:32] <sebsebseb> nastas: hi [17:32] <LordHawke13> jackbrown1, Bell rang. Got to go. Later === Sunshine is now known as SunshineDonut === Saint_laptop is now known as StarStruck === StarStruck is now known as Starstruck === mix22891 is now known as now_know_as === Starstruck is now known as Sa[i]nT [17:34] <Sifrega> ola === now_know_as is now known as mix22891 [17:34] <Sifrega> olle [17:35] <sebsebseb> !es | Sifrega [17:35] <ubottu> Sifrega: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:35] <Sifrega> yo me llamo sifrega de nacimiento [17:35] <Sifrega> quilla [17:35] <Sifrega> ablais español? [17:36] <Sifrega> ablais español?¿?¿ [17:36] <blakkheim> Sifrega: no [17:36] <Sifrega> que ablais? [17:37] <Sifrega> you speak inglish?? [17:37] <Sa[i]nT> That's "English". [17:37] <Trek> !es | Sifrega [17:37] <blakkheim> Sifrega: this is an english-only channel. for spanish join #ubuntu-es [17:37] <ubottu> Sifrega: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:37] <yaaar> howdy [17:37] <Sifrega> abladme en español [17:38] <Sifrega> si podeis claro, [17:38] <yaaar> !es | Sifrega [17:38] <ubottu> Sifrega: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:38] <flux> I guess my best bet is to install on the other side of the mirror and later move the data around. maybe the next installer will support GPT :). (or possibly automatically handle this 4k sector size business) [17:38] <doolph> if I have a network interface that was detected before and now is not detected what can I do? [17:39] <blakkheim> doolph: ifconfig -a [17:39] <Sifrega> you speak english? [17:39] <edbian> Is there a way to connect to sftp debian server windows client without installing additional software on the client? [17:39] <doolph> Sifrega: Entra al canal #ubuntu-es este canal es solo ingles [17:39] <Sifrega> i´m speak espanish [17:39] <blakkheim> edbian: wouldn't that be a windows question? [17:39] <bazhang> Sifrega, not here [17:39] <bazhang> Sifrega, speak spanish in #ubuntu-es English only here [17:40] <Sifrega> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee? [17:40] <bazhang> Sifrega, /join #ubuntu-es [17:40] <Sa[i]nT> He's obviously messing with the channel. [17:40] <pmvalente> hi need some help with this issue: I need to create an user account, but I want that the user can't change the password, is it possible? This is for a laptop on the library of my school that the students uses to surf the web ad check there emails. [17:40] <edbian> blakkheim: Well, I'm trying to set up a file server but I don't want to use ftp because of the lack of security. I would like to use sftp but I'm not sure if it will work for windows clients. It's on an Ubuntu server. [17:40] <Sifrega> aaaa by [17:40] <Sifrega> adios [17:41] <blakkheim> edbian: you might want to ask in ##windows, but why not use ftp with ssl? [17:41] <edbian> blakkheim: Can that be done? [17:41] <doolph> pmvalente: change the passwd ownage? [17:41] <blakkheim> edbian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPS [17:41] <edbian> blakkheim: My main problem is that the password is sent over the internet as plain text. Will ssl solve this issue? [17:41] <edbian> blakkheim: I'll read, thank you! :) [17:42] <jtgsi> I am a complete newbie to linux, but also comfortable with exploring the unknown. I will be setting up an ubuntu server and need some tips about raid setup. My mobo doesn't support raid so I purchased a pci raid controller. Would it be better to use this or just setup software raid when I install ubuntu? [17:42] <reisio> edbian: all decent win32 "ftp" clients support "sftp" [17:42] <reisio> edbian: FileZilla, WinSCP [17:42] <doolph> edbian: all you need is sftp, or install your own vpn [17:42] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ftp_clients#Protocol_support [17:42] <mix22891> im sad. so sad right now [17:43] <edbian> reisio: What about the default windows explorer. I'd like to be able to get my files securely from any computer connected to the internet without having to install any software on the client. [17:43] <doolph> edbian: then you will need vpn [17:43] <kibibyte> hi [17:43] <kibibyte> hi [17:43] <wig0_> aye [17:43] <kleon> hello [17:43] <pmvalente> doolph, how? [17:44] <reisio> edbian: mmm, wouldn't you want samba or nfs? [17:44] <svip> So after reinstalling my Windows partition, Windows decided to overwrite grub as the bootloader. Now what? I tried one of the guides, but now I just get a bash like grub terminal. [17:44] <iceroot> edbian: for vpn you need a vpn client, for sftp you need a sftp client. as always... by default windows is unsafe :) [17:44] <doolph> how what [17:44] <reisio> I would actually ask #windows about _that_ [17:44] <edbian> reisio: This is over the internet. [17:44] <kibibyte> i want add *.localhost.org to /etc/hosts , but now when ping foo.localhost.org i dosent work . is it possible to use wildcards there? [17:44] <edbian> iceroot: As always... thank you! [17:44] <sanket> listen [17:44] <kleon> im kleon i just intssalled this [17:45] <pmvalente> doolph, the passwd file is onwed by root, isn't it? [17:45] <svip> kibibyte: Use localhost.org instead. [17:45] <mix22891> What should i have to do to burn a normal .iso disk? it was cd num 7 that failed! [17:45] <mitch_feaster> Anyone know why I can `ls' an executable file but when I try to run it it says "file not found"? http://gist.github.com/307882 [17:45] <kibibyte> Svaje, same result [17:45] <mix22891> whats worng? [17:45] <kibibyte> svip, same result [17:45] <doolph> pmvalente: change the 700 permision [17:45] <svip> kibibyte: Blimey. [17:45] <kibibyte> svip, what? [17:45] <edbian> iceroot: I could create a user on the server that is only used for FTP that has no privileges, can't ssh into the server, has no home, and no shell. That is secure right? That way even if someone got the password the worst they could do is delete the files and add new ones right? [17:46] <svip> kibibyte: Learn British. Err... I don't think you can do wildcards though. [17:46] <pmvalente> doolph, change the 700 or to 700 [17:46] <kibibyte> whats blimey? [17:46] <hcook> hello. is there an op around here that could unban my (other) IP? at 17:38GMT you can see that I (yaaar) did a shebang-es piped to a user to inform them of the spanish ubuntu channel. then i was immediately banned for "spamming" ...so i had to go to another computer on a different ip and login with my other name. the banned ip is 74.118.8.219 (cisco-501.tranquility.net) and any help there... [17:46] <kibibyte> blame me? [17:46] <hcook> ...would be much appreciated. i'm really not a spammer! [17:46] <svip> kibibyte: An expression. [17:46] <kibibyte> translate [17:46] <svip> kibibyte: No no. It is a surprise expression. [17:46] <reisio> edbian: well there's always: the webui [17:46] <kibibyte> oh [17:46] <svip> BLimey! [17:46] <doolph> change to [17:47] <blakkheim> hcook: you could try #ubuntu-ops [17:47] <hcook> blakkheim: thanks, will do [17:47] <kibibyte> cant translate blimey in google translator [17:47] <svip> kibibyte: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/blimey Incidently, blimey does come from 'blime me'. [17:47] <svip> blame* [17:47] <antiPirate> hello everyone [17:48] <firevai> good day all [17:48] <kibibyte> ok [17:48] <firevai> i need some advise please [17:48] <pmvalente> doolph, thx very much [17:48] <jtgsi> Is there anyone whop could help me figure out the best raid setup? [17:48] <mix22891> i can't spend more fail cd's. how to burn safe .iso disk please? === sanket is now known as shanku [17:48] <antiPirate> i'm facing a stupid problem. I use usb modem to connect to internet...i use wvdial in ubuntu 9.04 to connect to internet... earlier it was working fine for around 6 months... [17:48] <firevai> my onboard soundcard mic jack is fried... i have 2 other soundcards... is it possible to use all of the onboard, and the mic jack of a pci card at the same time? === shanku is now known as shanu [17:49] <antiPirate> some time back i changed the device, but just a new device with same model and etc..now i'm able to get assigned ip address but no internet ? what could be the reason [17:49] <usuario_> hello [17:49] <antiPirate> !hi | usuario_ [17:50] <usuario_> hola [17:50] <usuario_> hello [17:50] <ubottu> usuario_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [17:50] <usuario_> holaaaaaa [17:50] <usuario_> hi! [17:51] <usuario_> hello!!!!!!!!! [17:51] <Pici> !es | usuario_ [17:51] <ubottu> usuario_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:51] <sipior> jtgsi: difficult to say unless you can provide your requirements for the array. [17:51] <mix22891> the disk burner software in ubuntu distroyed 7cd's === wubi is now known as mode [17:51] <sipior> mix22891: have you verified that the drive is working properly? [17:51] <abhi_nav> mix22891: wich software u r using? [17:51] <lo-ryan> mix22891: i alwasy use gnomebaker instead of whatever ubuntu defaults to [17:51] <antiPirate> can someone look into my problem of getting a valid ip address but no internet ...not able to even ping === mode is now known as good [17:52] <Some_Person> # [17:52] <mix22891> sipior yes [17:52] <Some_Person> What program should I use for my TV tuner? [17:52] <jtgsi> sipior: Thanks for replying. I want to setup raid1. My mobo doesnt support raid so I bought a pci raid controller, but after reading ubuntu docs I'm wondering if it would be better to use software raid? [17:52] <mix22891> abhi_nav the defaults software [17:52] <jussi01> !tv | Some_Person [17:52] <ubottu> Some_Person: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out [17:52] <sidney_> i need to add an entry to grub how do i get to it in terminal [17:52] <serenitysman> ergh [17:53] <abhi_nav> brasero is default here [17:53] <lo-ryan> brasero always makes coasters for my burner [17:53] <mix22891> 7cd's are failed! [17:53] <abhi_nav> i found brasero useful [17:53] <antiPirate> sidney_, you can use vi editor to open the grub conf file and edit it [17:53] <lo-ryan> gnomebaker hasn't failed me yet ;) [17:53] <abhi_nav> then try something else??? [17:53] <Some_Person> I have a mixed digital/analog card, and I need both parts to work. What should I use? [17:54] <abhi_nav> like lo-ryan is saying - gnomebaker [17:54] <sidney_> so i need another program [17:54] <sipior> jtgsi: well, if you've already bought the controller...:-) what are your goals for the raid? [17:54] <antiPirate> sidney_, or if you find that a bit difficult...you can provide details of what exactly you want to do === mix22891 is now known as GangBus [17:55] <antiPirate> sidney_, nopes...vi is available by default in all linux flavors ...its just an editor...you can use any other editor you're comfortable with [17:55] <GangBus> hello [17:55] <GangBus> hi [17:55] <abhi_nav> sidney_ : try this: cd /boot/grub/ [17:55] <abhi_nav> sudo gedit menu.lst [17:55] <blakkheim> s/gedit/vi [17:55] <antiPirate> !hi | GangBus [17:55] <ubottu> GangBus: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [17:55] <chen> ? [17:55] <kuki> caca [17:55] <GangBus> flasa [17:56] <GangBus> in do do [17:56] <kuki> ola ay alguien [17:56] <jtgsi> sipior: I need data protection and the controller provides rebuild capabilities, which is very attractive. The only reason I'm questioning it is because in the documentation it said that software raid is better than the controllers on mobo's. Does that go for add-ons like a pci ccontroller? [17:56] <GangBus> shnazi on the roof [17:56] <blakkheim> !es | kuki [17:56] <ubottu> kuki: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:56] <bazhang> GangBus, please stop that [17:56] <sidney_> antiPirate: i wanted to dual boot and my zenwalk lilo got hosed now i need to add zen to grub i think [17:57] <blakkheim> jtgsi: if the pci card works in ubuntu i would just use that, i'm not a big fan of softraid === shanu is now known as shanku [17:57] <antiPirate> sidney_, its pretty easy....leme provide you some links...gimme a sec... [17:57] <joel_> För länge sen använde jag ett pre-configured script från ubuntus hemsida tror jag, som användes för att boota en dator via lanet till en live cd.. pxe fast fixat och klart [17:57] <kuki> ay algun español??? [17:57] <sipior> jtgsi: raid controllers tend to vary wildly in quality. please understand that a raid is not equivalent to a backup system. you'll still want to ensure that a proper backup is in place. [17:57] <joel_> Någon som kommer ihåg vart jag fann detta? [17:57] <joel_> Wrong channel SORRY === joel_ is now known as jolaren [17:58] <abhi_nav> why everyone cant just speak english (atleast) here?? [17:58] <abhi_nav> i cant understand what they are saying [17:58] <GangBus> im looking for shadows [17:58] <abhi_nav> why people just read and follow the irc rule? [17:59] <sipior> jtgsi: software raid has advantages in flexibility, and you most likely have cpu cycles to spare in any event :-) [17:59] <jtgsi> ok thanks for the info. I'm pretty new to linux and have undertake the setup of a server. I will def be backing up. We have two other servers here so I will setup daily backups to one of those. [17:59] <abhi_nav> does following irc rules takes money???? [17:59] <bazhang> GangBus, did you have an ubuntu support question? [17:59] <antiPirate> sidney_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-456956.html, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/adding-a-new-entry-to-grub-271903/ , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [17:59] <xangua> !es | kuki [17:59] <ubottu> kuki: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:59] <jolaren> abhi_nav, My xchat was minimized.. I thought I auto joined #ubuntu-se not #ubuntu - I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you [17:59] <kuki> eooooo hay aki algún español??????? [17:59] <chen> 这是什么地方 [18:00] <bazhang> chen, Ubuntu support, /join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese [18:00] <jtgsi> sipior: What about FakeRaid? Is that something I will have to consider in this process? [18:00] <antiPirate> GangBus, if you dont have support question and you dont want to help anyone either... but move to some other gossip channel... [18:00] <jolaren> A while ago I found this great script somewhere on the ubuntu website which allowed netbooting from a live-cd.. It was a .sh script. Now I can't seem to find it. Does anyone know where? [18:00] <Byczy_Ogier> Quite messy up here [18:00] <xangua> !es > kuki [18:00] <ubottu> kuki, please see my private message [18:00] <antiPirate> jolaren, google dint help either ? [18:01] <jolaren> antiPirate, I can't find it.. i've been googlin, thats how i found it the last time [18:01] <sipior> tgsi: not unless you bought a crappy card :-) [18:01] <sidney_> abhi_nav: sudo gedit menu.lst command not found [18:01] <bazhang> jolaren, unetbootin create a bootable usb flash key, if that is what you mean [18:01] <jolaren> antiPirate, I found it! [18:01] <jolaren> bazhang, No, I mean booting from PXE to a live-cd [18:01] <jolaren> Without setting upp everything [18:01] <antiPirate> jolaren, great ! [18:02] <abhi_nav> sidney_ : cd /boot/grub/ [18:02] <OrdErEdchAOs> I want to change the tray icon and title bar icon of xchat in ubuntu 9.10 gnome. changing the icon here: /usr/share/icons/ and /usr/share/pixmaps is not helping. Any ideas? [18:02] <abhi_nav> whats the alternate for gedit? [18:02] <yaaar> hey guys. i've got a hardy server that i just added a couple ip aliases to and when i restarted networking i got an error "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" for each one. they seem to work though. is that something i should worry about, or just ignore it? my /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://pastebin.ca/1801780 and the output is here: http://pastebin.ca/1801781 [18:02] <egoleo> kate [18:02] <egoleo> or kwrite [18:02] <jolaren> abhi_nav, nano, cat .. etc [18:02] <jtgsi> sipior: oh my, I hope not. I got a StarTech 4 Port Serial ATA RAID 0,1 PCI Card from Tiger Direct. Is that ok or should I return and find a better one? Paid 50 bucks for it [18:03] <raendeer> anyone ever have trouble with the installer not detecting a sata drive? looking around on google, trying pci=nommconf irqpoll didn't help. I don't see in errors in /var/log/syslog or in dmesg about it [18:03] <marienz> yaaar: just wanted to apologize for the malfunctioning bot that hit you earlier. It shouldn't do it again. [18:03] <jolaren> abhi_nav, nano and vi are the most usual terminalwise used atleast [18:03] <abhi_nav> can we use cat instead of gedit here: sudo gedit menu.lst???? === joseph is now known as Guest3641 [18:03] <jolaren> abhi_nav, no, use nano or vi [18:03] <bazhang> abhi_nav, no [18:03] <abhi_nav> ok [18:03] <yaaar> marienz: all good. i got on from a different box and hit up Dominian on #freenode, who was very helpful [18:03] <bazhang> abhi_nav, use gksudo gedit as well [18:03] <abhi_nav> sydney_ sudo vi menu.lst [18:04] <abhi_nav> bazhang: ok [18:04] <razertek> anyone using lucid alpha3? [18:04] <abhi_nav> sydney_ sudo gksudo menu.lst [18:04] <bazhang> razertek, in #ubuntu+1 [18:04] <abhi_nav> jolaren: ok [18:04] <xangua> !lucid | razertek [18:04] <bazhang> abhi_nav, no [18:04] <bazhang> gksudo if you are going to use gedit [18:05] <ubottu> razertek: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [18:05] <abhi_nav> bazhang: the nick sydney_ wants this [18:05] <sipior> jtgsi: not familiar with the card. seems a little cheap, but if it only does raid 0/1, maybe that's about right. [18:05] <abhi_nav> he want to edit menu.lst [18:05] <antiPirate> has anyone faced the problem of : ip address being assigned but no internet connection ???? [18:05] <razertek> i wasnt thinking and downloaded the drivers from ati...when i know they are prerelease in alpha3 and broke my x...how do i revert back [18:05] <abhi_nav> can u tell hime how to to it [18:05] <abhi_nav> he dont have gedit [18:05] <bazhang> abhi_nav, its the wrong command, also, did you give the proper path [18:05] <abhi_nav> on using gedit it sayg command not found [18:05] <yaaar> antiPirate: how far do you get? e.g. can you ping the gateway? [18:05] <abhi_nav> yes proper path: cd /boot/grub [18:06] <bazhang> abhi_nav, is this grub or grub2 [18:06] <abhi_nav> grub [18:06] <sidney_> antiPirate: second problem this was my first try @ partitioning and not sure if zen is on sda1 or sda3 [18:06] <abhi_nav> yah there he is [18:06] <abhi_nav> this problem is of sidney___ [18:06] <antiPirate> yaaar, no idea...i tried pinging google.com and got the repsone: host unknown... [18:06] <abhi_nav> hey sidney__ ask to bazhang [18:06] <antiPirate> sidney_, i guess that thing can be figured out easlily... [18:06] <kuki> estoy arta ay algun español?? [18:06] <xangua> !es | kuki [18:06] <ubottu> kuki: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [18:07] <kuki> ola [18:07] <yaaar> antiPirate: sounds like dns to me. can you pastebin the output of 'sudo ifconfig' and 'sudo route' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' (those are separate commands) [18:07] <xangua> kuki: please stop the offtopic or speak in english [18:07] <yaaar> antiPirate: also, does it work to ping 8.8.8.8 ? [18:07] <jtgsi> sipior: It had the best reviews out of my options on TD and I googled and checked some other reviews, semmed ok. But you can't trust all reviews, so time will tell : | We'll see. I try it. Thanks a lot for your help! [18:08] <kuki> susana?? [18:08] <sipior> jtgsi: have fun :-) [18:08] <antiPirate> yaaar, and the surprising thing is that now i booted ubuntu off my usb-persistent and i'm able to use the same device with the same wvdial utility... quite surprising [18:08] <kuki> tu maricon [18:09] <jtgsi> thanks [18:09] <wng-> Can anyone tell me what this kernel panic means? I'm trying to boot a 9.04 live cd: http://pastebin.com/m5c3bfdd8 [18:09] <antiPirate> yaaar.... as now i'm on the usb-booted ubuntu i cant do those things....let me shutdown and will connect to this channel through windows-irc....will get back to you guys in 5 mins [18:09] <icehawk78> I've got a jar file that I'd like to run (RemoteDroid server) and I installed package "openjdk-6-jre-headless" and tried running "java -jar RemoteDroidServer.jar", but didn't appear to do anything. Any generic suggestions on getting jar files to execute? [18:09] <kcg> hi there, i tried to upgrade my initator-applet from official release with ubuntu, anyone could point me to a direction? Many thanks. === Wolf is now known as Guest44710 [18:10] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo [18:10] <jtwhite> Hi [18:11] <jtwhite> Wow, this channel is usually going crazy with text... Dead day? [18:11] <doolph> how can I install Linux kernel source [18:11] <ActionParsnip> Jtwhite: seems so, crazy [18:12] <ActionParsnip> !info kernel-source [18:12] <ubottu> Package kernel-source does not exist in karmic [18:12] <raendeer> jtwhite: does that mean you'd like to try to help me? installer isn't finding my sata drive :P [18:13] <ActionParsnip> Doolph: apt-cache search linux-image | grep source [18:13] <juanma> tuenti [18:14] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: does the cd pass self-test? Did you md5 test the iso you downloaded? Is the drive shown in bios? Does: sudo fdisk -l ,show the drive? [18:15] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: have you tried some boot options? [18:15] <shahzad> woooooooooooooooohooooooooooo [18:15] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: it's installing from usb, I didn't md5 it but the iso mounted fine and all of the files seemed good and there, the drive has centos installed onto it so it's in correctly, fdisk -l does not show it in the installer, I've tried boot pci=nommconf irqpoll as per one post I found [18:16] <wng-> Can anyone tell me what this kernel panic means? I'm trying to boot a 9.04 live cd: http://pastebin.com/m5c3bfdd8j [18:16] <kcg> hello, i tried to upgrade my initator-applet from official release with ubuntu, anyone could point me to a direction for noobs? Many thanks. [18:16] <deepfreez> hi, i running ubuntu 9.10 and i need a tutorial how to configure the network for give a internet another computer with dhcp [18:16] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: doesn't matter if it "mounts fine". A bad iso will cause issues. You have no way of knowing the data you are using is complete or consistant [18:16] <shahzad> lalalalalalalala [18:17] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | raendeer [18:17] <ubottu> raendeer: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [18:17] <Pici> shahzad: Do you have a support question? [18:18] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: you can also boot to livecd and run: dmesg | less ,to read the bootup to see if the drive is detected and any issues experienced [18:18] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: is your bios up to date? [18:19] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: could also try disabling pointless hardware for the duration of the install (network,sound etc) [18:19] <markl_> what is the best way to add a user from the command line? useradd defaults to /bin/sh and doesn't create the user's home dir [18:19] <markl_> this is 8.04 [18:19] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | markl_ [18:19] <ubottu> markl_: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo [18:19] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: computer was just ordered last week, bios is default that came with the board. I haven't been able to get it online yet. I'll try to reboot and do a check disk now.. it's not the live cd iso, but I'll try things in this faq [18:20] <chrisi> hallo [18:20] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: may need a bios update or tweaking to be nice in linux [18:20] <hyperlinx> hi all [18:20] <markl_> ActionParsnip: ty [18:20] <koltroll> Hey peeps. I've got two monitors and it works great. Tho I think that the desktop cube is acting a bit weird, it shows one cube on each monitor when I'm about to rotate. And even tho I have set up that I should have 4 workspaces, I can only access two from when I'm rotating. [18:20] <Pianoman13> is there an expert in wireless configuration in here today? [18:20] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: check dmesg too, very useful [18:20] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: it loaded up with no issues at all in centos. dmesg only shows the usb I'm booting from [18:21] <koltroll> I'd like it to be ONE BIG cube you know. Like one desktop == 1920*2. [18:21] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: dmesg should show the disk being seen unless its not detected at all [18:21] <Pianoman13> i have an hp laptop Compaq 8710p with a Linksys wireless-g wrt54gp2 router that works in vista but not in ubuntu 9.10 [18:21] <blorg> hey, does someone know a .swf creator tool ? [18:21] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer, could boot to centos to see what modules are loaded to get the drives seen [18:22] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: the router is moot. Run: sudo lshw -C network [18:22] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: if it is seeing the drive, it's not sdX or hdX.. can't think of what else it'd be. it looks like my install dvd does not come with checkdisc [18:22] <JoshuaL> everytime i try to use screen it throws the following error: Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied [18:23] <Trek> JoshuaL: try running with sudo [18:23] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman: it will show you the wireless chip the device is using and you can find guides based on that. What vista does or doesn't do is also moot [18:23] <raendeer> the boot options wiki doesn't seem to apply to me at all. using hardy server lts amd64, so I'm not seeing these options [18:23] <blakkheim> Trek: screen shouldn't need sudo [18:23] <JoshuaL> Trek, but I do not want to run screen as super user [18:23] <abhi_nav> i think i know about .swf is if open office format? [18:23] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, ok i ran the sudo command [18:23] <abhi_nav> blorg: [18:23] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: its fsck in linux. Checkdisc is a windows app [18:23] <Pianoman13> i am a 3 weeks old user by the way . . . [18:24] <bazhang> abhi_nav, its flash file [18:24] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: ah, I thought checkdisc was the option to verify the iso was good.. sorry [18:24] <abhi_nav> flash means? adobe flash? i dont remember it now [18:24] <abhi_nav> but i have work with that format [18:24] <Trek> a flash file means Adobe Flash (usually) [18:24] <abhi_nav> worded [18:24] <abhi_nav> ok [18:24] <ActionParsnip> raendeer: i'd look at the centos install. It may give clues and is essentially the same OS [18:24] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | raendeer [18:24] <ubottu> raendeer: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [18:25] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, description: Wireless interface [18:25] <Pianoman13> product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection [18:25] <Pianoman13> vendor: Intel Corporation [18:25] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'll take a look at what modules it loads [18:25] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman: I don't need to see it, its for you to use the product line in websearches [18:26] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, sorry, which line and for what purpose? [18:26] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman: you can check if its working now with: sudo iwlist scan [18:26] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, it's not working [18:27] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman: the product line has identified the wireless chip. You can find guides by searching for it in search engines [18:28] <trism> JoshuaL: try running sudo /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup start; then try running screen, it should fix up your missing /var/run/screen problems [18:28] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: make sure your system is fully updated too. This may help [18:28] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, thanks, i tried many guides so far but cannot follow the instructions, maybe when i get older, as i said i am only 3 weeks old on this ubuntu [18:28] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, yes my system is fully updated [18:28] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: most guides are fairly decent and step by step [18:29] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: if all else fails you can install ndisgtk and use the windows driver which matches your ubuntu arch (32bit/64bit) [18:29] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, yes but for a new user ther are very difficult to follow and reference are many opf times outdated or not relevant to the software hardare used [18:29] <reeeeeesty> when im making a script... And it starts out with a variable... a="a.... and on the next line, theres a b" why do they print on seperate lines with echo "$a" but on the same line with echo $a === lol is now known as Guest79446 [18:30] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, ndisgtk is already installed but i do not know what to do with it! [18:30] <Pici> reeeeeesty: Bash scripting help is best sought in #bash [18:30] <ActionParsnip> reeeeeesty: i'd ask in #bash [18:30] <reeeeeesty> alright, thanks [18:30] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, i don't even know where it is? [18:30] <Guest79446> :S [18:30] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: you need the windows driver .inf and .sys [18:31] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: press alt+f2, type: gksudo ndisgtk ,press enter [18:31] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, YES but where are they if the big question [18:31] <xangua> Pianoman13 ActionParsnip more exactly the 'windows XP' drivers === EagleScreen is now known as Guest59512 [18:31] <Guest79446> :S [18:31] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: on the install cd or the manufacturers site [18:31] <galerien> hello every one, I have a question : Why is "apt-get upgrade" telling me that it didn't upgraded 38 packages?? [18:31] <galerien> and how could i get it to upgrade them [18:31] <galerien> ?? [18:31] <Pici> galerien: use apt-get dist-upgrade to get those packages. [18:32] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | galerien explanation: [18:32] <ubottu> galerien explanation:: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu. [18:32] <ActionParsnip> Galerian: can you use pastebin to give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade [18:32] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, thanks for your help by the way, do you mean the intel or Linksys manufacturer [18:33] <galerien> is there anyone here? [18:33] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: linksys === Sean is now known as Guest97283 [18:33] <Pici> galerien: I just answered your question. [18:33] <ActionParsnip> Galerien: and I asked for an output of a command [18:33] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, ok, i will go and check on their web site [18:34] <ActionParsnip> Pianoman13: you will find tonnes of guides usong ndisgtk [18:34] <JoshuaL> trism, that did the trick. thanks [18:34] <Scombr0> Hi all, I have a problem, I installed apache2 but it wont read my directory: localhost/~scombr0 [18:34] <Scombr0> The requested URL /~scombr0 was not found on this server. [18:35] <Scombr0> How can I fix that? [18:35] <Scombr0> (And of course i made the public_html folder) [18:35] <Scombr0> With a simple index.html [18:35] <Pici> Scombr0: Do you have mod_userdir setup? === KalturaUser_60b is now known as pirateMaster [18:36] <Scombr0> Pici, how can I check that? [18:36] <DavidSchles> i installed the new firefox updates yesterday and firefox segfaults now. anyone know or able to help with this? [18:36] <ActionParsnip> Davidschles: if you rename $HOME/.mozilla does it run ok? [18:36] <Pici> Scombr0: Take a look at your active site config, by default its /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default [18:37] <Scombr0> Pici phpmyadmin wasn't working either, but after googling i fixed it. But i can't make my home dir to work. [18:37] <ActionParsnip> Davidschles: are you installing from the mozilla ppa? [18:37] <Scombr0> Pici, alright, i'll check that out. [18:37] <DavidSchles> ActionParsnip: ubuntu updates yesterday [18:37] <Pici> Scombr0: You'll need to enable mod_userdir by doing sudo a2enmod userdir and then take a look at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/public_html.html for the syntax to add to your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default file [18:37] <DavidSchles> ActionParsnip: what do you mean rename? [18:38] <ActionParsnip> Davischles: try the rename. Its like renaming anything. Just give it a different name [18:38] <evilbug> does anyone have any knowledge about making a Vodafone K3520-Z usb mobile connect stick work with 9.10? [18:38] <Scombr0> So Pici, every new user I add, i have to edit that file? [18:38] <Nando> HOLA [18:38] <ActionParsnip> Davidschles: you will get a default profile next run. If it works your profileis either bad or the current version just doesn't like it [18:38] <evilbug> i did google it but i'm hoping someone here has some first-hand experience. [18:38] <Nando> hola [18:39] <Nando> hello [18:39] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: the iso I have passed the md5 check. loaded ata_piix and libata (only two relevant looking modules in lsmod under centos) and the drive still doesn't show under fdisk -l [18:39] <icehawk78> What command would I use to figure out what my server's main X11 window would be? [18:39] <DavidSchles> ActionParsnip: what shoulod i rename though [18:39] <icehawk78> I'm trying to run DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 java -jar RemoteDroidServer.jar but that apparently isn't a real X11 window [18:40] <fabian> hola [18:40] <purpzey> Can anyone tell me if there are problems with distro upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic? I heard that in here last night, and I am wondering if upgrading is a good idea at this point. [18:40] <Pici> Scombr0: No, you can just add UserDir public_html to your site's config and after reloading apache you should be fine for every future user. [18:40] <doolph> Hello, I have compiled a driver for my network interface i can do insmod atl1e.ko but how can I use it?? [18:40] <Pici> Scombr0: That URL just gives some more advanced options you have. [18:40] <ActionParsnip> Davidschles: anything at all, just make it different [18:40] <Scombr0> Alright, i'll keep you posted Pici :) [18:41] <lightbricko> When I scan an A4 paper using xsane, the scanned image file is too high (below the A4 page there is ~10cm of extra blank space inserted). What can be wrong? [18:41] <Scombr0> Btw Pici, it's a server edition, doing all this via SSH. [18:42] <Pici> Scombr0: Makes no difference :) [18:43] <jarod_v6> hi there! [18:43] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: do you think trying to install from centos might help? or would I still run into an issue with necessary modules not being loaded [18:43] <jarod_v6> I Have this error someone can help me ?E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [18:45] <galerien> !upgrade [18:45] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [18:45] <Pianoman13> ActionParsnip, i found the driver and donwloaded it from linksys [18:46] <TuxXRacer> I'm trying to build an application from source but want to know how to display the settings before the "make" step. I have done the "./configure" step. Is there a command to show the current settings??? [18:47] <jarod_v6> "sudo apt-get install -f " not resolve the dependency [18:49] <seanbrystone> does ubuntu 9.10 have any file indexing services turned on by default? [18:49] <Reyuken> anyone knows how to get out of ctrl+f3 , back into the GUI? [18:49] <nibbler> Reyuken, alt-f7 [18:49] <Pici> Reyuken: ctrl-alt-f7 [18:49] <Reyuken> thanks alot [18:50] <Reyuken> had me puzzling for a while [18:50] <receptor> hello. does anybody have experience with ubuntu dual display on nvidia configured as two separate x screens? does it mean if i had two mice and keyboards, my son could play a game while i watch a movie? [18:50] <nibbler> seanbrystone, well, locate/updatedb might be running, try "locate passwd" e.g. [18:50] <GSF1200S> whenever I click the maximize button on firefox, it goes into a small window at the upper left corner of my screen- it refuses to maximize [18:50] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: you can use the file search db to improve file searches. It also has a journal to make normal system file access nicer === orion_ is now known as Guest79691 [18:51] <seanbrystone> no i was refering to Beagle file indexing type services, or Google desktop file indexing [18:51] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: depends how you meant === fale_ is now known as fale === sppp is now known as Some_Person [18:51] <timboy> bluetooth stopped working on me... hciconfig shows: hci- Type: USB then gives me BD Address etc. at the end of TX errors:10. hcitool dev gives devices: [18:51] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: I see, I use neither sorry [18:51] <seanbrystone> ok thx guys [18:52] <timboy> was working fine before then I installed blueman and after that no worky [18:52] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone, others may be able to contribute [18:52] <fabian> hi [18:52] <ActionParsnip> Timboy: uninstall blueman seems logical [18:52] <Scombr0> Pici, perfect, it worked. [18:52] <fabian> how can i use avant window navigator without compositing-manager? [18:53] <Pici> Scombr0: Great [18:53] <Scombr0> Pici, Now i'm Forbbiden. [18:53] <Scombr0> heh [18:53] <fabian> please someone help me [18:53] <Scombr0> Pici: You don't have permission to access /~scombr0/ on this server. [18:53] <Scombr0> Now i get that reply. [18:53] <jarod_v6> hi!!! [18:53] <Scombr0> How to change permissions? [18:53] <timboy> ActionParsnip, did that and the bluetooth icon in the top right of ubuntu is always greyed out when i hit enable it says bluetooth: On but isn't [18:53] <jarod_v6> could you help me? [18:53] <nibbler> !help | jarod_v6 [18:53] <ubottu> jarod_v6: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:53] <mgaffney> hey, I'm running ubuntu server in a vm. I added a network adapter. How do I make ubuntu discover and use it? === emmy is now known as emma [18:54] <nibbler> mgaffney, find it with ifconfig -a and configure it via /etc/network/interfaces [18:54] <jarod_v6> <ubottu> thanks. [18:55] <jackbrown> I installed all the extras restricted but i'm unable to play .flv video and .mp4 video [18:55] <timboy> what should I do to try to troubleshoot my bluetooth? works in other operating system fine (dual boot) [18:55] <jackbrown> Is anyone able to help me please [18:55] <jarod_v6> I have a proble with java.-common... I can't reinstall [18:55] <Xylo> hello [18:55] <chris_n> why is mysql in the karmic repo built without the InnoDB engine? [18:55] <jackbrown> I installed all the extras restricted but i'm unable to play .flv video and .mp4 video === adam is now known as Guest9457 [18:56] <timboy> chris_n, that is a question for #ubuntu-devel [18:56] <chris_n> tnx [18:56] <jarod_v6> what mean that pkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed pre-removal script: Exec format error [18:56] <optimuz> i have a problem using telnet [18:56] <Slart> jackbrown: did you try vlc? [18:56] <mgaffney> nibbler, how do I bring that interface up now that I've configure it? [18:56] <fabian> how can i use avant window navigator without compositing-manager? [18:56] <optimuz> i need to send ^c but i cant figure it out [18:56] <m_anish> timboy: the bluez pages would be a good start [18:57] <sipior> optimuz: if you use telnet, you have at least two problems :-) [18:57] <optimuz> i even tried various scripts to send the signal for me [18:57] <Guest9457> hey i have a question if any one can help me out... i'm new to ubuntu. My question is when ever I install updates it adds a new boot in grub. How do I get rid of the old ones? [18:57] <Xylo> i'm having a strange problem, i have disk access every seconds or so, i can provide a process list, or the output or lsof, i don't know (or undertsand for that maters) why is my computer is always making io to the hardisk... [18:57] <jackbrown> Start: Yes VLC is installed and works but can't open .flv and .mp4 [18:57] <mgaffney> nibbler, nm, ifup eth1 [18:57] <optimuz> sipior im reflashing my router, telnet is te only way [18:57] <mgaffney> thanks [18:57] <timboy> m_anish, ok... [18:57] <m_anish> timboy: is there anything specific that is not working? [18:57] <sipior> optimuz: fair enough, i was only teasing. [18:57] <timboy> m_anish, can't do hcitool scan [18:57] <Slart> Guest9457: remove the older kernel packages using synaptic.. they are called things like "linux-image-blablablas" [18:57] <optimuz> i know ;) [18:57] <ActionParsnip> Jarod_v6: there is a script the package runs during removal and is having issues. You can hack the script to be very empty so that it just removes [18:58] <timboy> says device is not available: No such device [18:58] <Slart> jackbrown: can't open? or can't play? [18:58] <lo-ryan> Guest9457: here's a good write up on it http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need/ [18:58] <Guest9457> thanks slart [18:58] <optimuz> but still, i see the ^c on the screen but it doesnt seem to be send [18:58] <Slart> Guest9457: you're welcome [18:58] <optimuz> putty under windows does it automatically [18:58] <jackbrown> Start: can't open (just the .mp4 it can be open with the default player but the video is broken ) [18:59] <m_anish> timboy: hmm, so ubuntu doesn't recognize the bluetooth device! [18:59] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs or w64codecs depending on arch. You will find mplayer will mplay them without issue. [18:59] <jarod_v6> <ActionParsnip> thanks for answer... how can do that? [18:59] <Slart> jackbrown: try right clicking on the flv-file, then select properties and choose the "Open With" pane.. there click "Add" and find vlc in the list and select it [18:59] <GSF1200S> what is the default version of firefox on ubuntu 9.10? [19:00] <ActionParsnip> Jarod_v6: websearch the line you pasted here. You will find guides [19:00] <jackbrown> Start i tryied to run them with VLC no way [19:00] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip i installed w32codecs [19:00] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox karmic | gsf1200S [19:00] <ubottu> gsf1200S: firefox (source: firefox-3.5): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 71 kB, installed size 128 kB [19:00] <Slart> jackbrown: ok, so you can open them but not play them.. try installing the w32codecs from the medibuntu repository, just like ActionParsnip suggested [19:00] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: is gnome-mplayer more forgiving [19:01] <ActionParsnip> Gsf200S: you can add the mozilla ppa to get 3.6 and 3.7 [19:01] <optimuz> how do i send ^c over telnet? [19:01] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip do i have to installa gnome-mplayer from Ubuntu software center ? [19:01] <Pici> optimuz: press ctrl-c ? [19:01] <Slart> optimuz: there are no other shortcuts? \c or something like that perhaps? [19:01] <optimuz> pici i did, problem is it doesnt seem to get there [19:02] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer ,no need for software centre (too slow) [19:02] <optimuz> Connected to 192.168.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. == Executing boot script in 1.910 seconds - enter ^C to abort [19:02] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-mplayer [19:02] <ubottu> gnome-mplayer (source: gnome-mplayer): A GTK+ interface for MPlayer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.8-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 307 kB, installed size 1316 kB [19:02] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: doing that [19:02] <optimuz> im ressing ctrl+c [19:02] <jarod_v6> <ActionParsnip> I don't found nothing unfortunately [19:03] <optimuz> but it doesnt stop the boot script in time [19:03] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: easier isn't it ;) [19:03] <Pici> optimuz: Have you tried ctrl-shift-c ? [19:03] <optimuz> no, i will do this [19:03] <Will123456> hey guys. i'm running ubuntu off a USB stick whilst my harddrive is off for repairs. I've installed it as a full OS, not a "liveUSB", and performance as you can imagine is not great, especially when doing a lot of loading of files [19:03] <optimuz> but i have a script which made a capital letter [19:03] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: I hope it will works [19:03] <Scombr0> Pici, i have no permission to access the web, i made it work with userdir, but now i have no permission, and reading i think it might be the .htacess configuration, am I right? [19:03] <m_anish> timboy: what;s the output of ur lsusb command [19:03] <Will123456> i plan to optimise it by storing /tmp in RAM and so on, but I'm wondering if there's not any way to improve overall performance by compressing *everything*? [19:03] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: i already have VLC why it's unable to run them ? [19:03] <The-Druid_> i've installed ndiswrapper and the win7 wireless driver in my notebook, but it just f*cked up my network configuration [19:03] <timboy> m_anish, it appears ubuntu does not recognize the device but hciconfig outputs the hci0: Type: USB BD Address: 00:26............. says it's DOWN [19:03] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: use a lighter de like xfce or lxde [19:04] <The-Druid_> i can't connect on the internet anymore [19:04] <smooth_penguin> Hey, is it possible to have fbsplash just after grub [19:04] <GSF1200S> ActionParsnip: thank you [19:04] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: you need codecs [19:04] <smooth_penguin> Im using openrc [19:04] <raendeer> The-Druid_: ndiswrapper generally needs xp drivers [19:04] <timboy> m_anish, i'm almost positivie it's this: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. [19:04] <The-Druid_> raendeer: i'll check it out [19:04] <dropbear> optimuz: there's your escape: ^] send the escape and then issue 'send brk' in telnet [19:04] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: i'm assuming lxde and xfce are lighter on harddrive space too? as performance in other areas isn't a problem [19:04] <Pici> Scombr0: I think you can either use .htaccess files in each public_html dir, or setup the permissions in your site's config. I'm not sure what needs to be set for either though. I'd ask in #httpd , that is apache's support channel. [19:04] <jackbrown> ActionParsnip: no way [19:04] <ActionParsnip> Wil123456: or use a lighter distro like puppy or dsl [19:05] <Scombr0> Alright, thanks for all your help Pici :) [19:05] <optimuz> dropbear: what does send brk mean? [19:05] <yaaar> hey guys, could somebody take a quick look at this /etc/network/interfaces ( http://pastebin.ca/1801780 ) and this error: ( http://pastebin.ca/1801781 ) for me? The new ips (before the change i only had one ip) seem to be working...can i just ignore those errors? [19:05] <my_haz_> whats the name of the application launcher thing at the bottom of the screen that looks like OSX? [19:05] <m_anish> timboy: see if this can be of any help http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8298037 [19:05] <dropbear> optimuz: uhm, send break ;-) [19:05] <PeskyJ> I've previously broken a 9.10 install on my Acer Aspire 5600 by doing the updates - but I've reinstalled and done all the updates except the latest kernel update - is there a way I can do the kernel update but then revert it if it breaks again? [19:05] <Slart> my_haz_: cairo dock? awn? [19:05] <optimuz> and how exactly do i do this? enter ^ and ] as single characters and press enter? [19:05] <my_haz_> Slart: i will google [19:06] <Slart> PeskyJ: you can always go back to a previous kernel at the grub menu [19:06] <DJones> !awn | my_haz_ [19:06] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: yes they are smaller there too. Using less ram will give more to disk cache which should make things nicer. You can also turn down vm.swappiiness so swap is used oonly when needed [19:06] <Red_HamsterX> Telnet, optimuz? [19:06] <Talon_> PeskyJ, by default the old kernels are still in place, you should have an option to boot them in your grub menu [19:06] <Slart> my_haz_: I think those are the most common.. they are both available from the repos, I think [19:06] <optimuz> yepp [19:06] <jackbrown> CAN anybody check about these files i would like to open but i'm unable to? [19:06] <Red_HamsterX> optimuz, ^ means CTRL. [19:06] <my_haz_> Slart: do you know the difference? [19:06] <jackbrown> Please they are making me crazy [19:06] <PeskyJ> Slart, Talon_ aha, nice - I'll update and see how I get on then :) [19:06] <optimuz> okay [19:06] <optimuz> so i press ctrl ] [19:06] <Red_HamsterX> Yes. [19:06] <Talon_> you can remove unused kernels from your synaptic package manager also to remove the ones you no longer want in your grub menu, its smart to leave at least one as a backup [19:07] <ActionParsnip> My_haz_: you can make the whole desktop look like a mac if you like [19:07] <Slart> my_haz_: well.. they are different apps that looks kind of the same.. has some different solutions on how to do things.. both work alright (I've used both) [19:07] <ubottu> my_haz_: Avant Window Navigator is a dock-like navigation bar for the Linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/ - Awn-Manager can be found in Universe from Hardy (8.04) onwards. [19:07] <seanbrystone> I keep getting this error when trying to install anything, so i tried to uninstall the offending fonts, but errors abound: http://pastebin.com/m4d96ca44 [19:07] <skraps> when i mount a iso, then add it to my repo list, i get a error saying "cound not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open" , "unable to lock download directory" [19:07] <optimuz> and then ctrl+c because the router sais so == Executing boot script in 1.910 seconds - enter ^C to abort [19:07] <optimuz> right? [19:07] <Red_HamsterX> optimuz, if that's what it tells you to do, yes. [19:07] <ActionParsnip> Jackbrown: make sure you have the gstreamer good,bad and ugly packages [19:07] <Slart> my_haz_: I think cairo-dock is a little more configurable when it comes to looks [19:07] <timboy> m_anish, it's not a dongle there is no red button (or blue pill for that matter) [19:07] <lekefly> VLC makes the screen go black every 10 min in fullscreen.. how to fix? [19:07] <optimuz> ill try that, thanks alot [19:08] <Red_HamsterX> optimuz: ^D will close the connection once you've dropped to the 'telnet>' prompt. [19:08] <ActionParsnip> Lekefly: does it happen in other players? [19:08] <PeskyJ> lekefly, it's a bug in gnome-screensaver that doesn't support the legacy API VLC uses to tell the screenscaer not to kick in [19:09] <lekefly> PeskyJ: aha.. know of a fix? [19:09] <PeskyJ> lekefly, yes, the bug is fixed, but not made it to the repos yet afaik [19:09] <lekefly> Fuck.. :P [19:09] <ActionParsnip> Lekefly: there is a vlc repo. Watch the language [19:09] <PeskyJ> lekefly, you'll just have to manually switch off the screensaver before watching movies for now :) [19:09] <Guest9457> <my_haz_> it's called gnome do [19:09] <ActionParsnip> Lekefly: you can find it easy in websearches [19:09] <purpzey> Can anyone tell me if there are problems with distro upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic? I heard that in here last night, and I am wondering if upgrading is a good idea at this point. [19:10] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: for some its fine for others its painful [19:10] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Anyway of telling which category I might fall into? [19:10] <my_haz_> purpzey: for me it was fine [19:10] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: if jaunty isn't broken, why fix it [19:10] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: not really [19:11] <PeskyJ> ok, hope this new kernel works [19:11] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Frankly, that's generally my feeling...(don't rock the boat)...but I had a friend tell me that karmic has "so many" improvements" [19:11] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: it helps if your hardware works out of the box or needs little config [19:11] <timboy> m_anish, http://dpaste.com/161226/ syslog [19:11] <seanbrystone> I keep getting this error when trying to install anything, so i tried to uninstall the offending fonts, but errors abound: http://pastebin.com/m4d96ca44 [19:11] <timboy> it looks like it should be functioning just hcitool doesn't see it :( [19:11] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Understood. Thanks. [19:11] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: if you are happy with jaunty then i'd sit on it [19:12] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: any other ideas on my sata drive not detected problem? [19:12] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Ok, point-taken and duly noted...:) [19:12] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: tried disabling dma and acpi? [19:12] <ActionParsnip> Purpzey: you could backup and then jump [19:12] <jevidl> i'm using the iozone utility to benchmark disk i/o on a new server. I was wondering if anyone knew what the "reclen" column was? I am guessing that it is the size chunks it uses to do the tests with the file size listed under KB, but I am not sure. [19:12] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: is the system a laptop? [19:13] <ActionParsnip> Jevidl: hdparm can test disk io too [19:13] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: no, it's a desktop. I can tell you the hardware if you'd like (ordered parts off of newegg and assembled, not a prebuilt system). will try without dma/acpi [19:14] <ActionParsnip> Raendeer: see if there are know issues with you motherboard. Check the hcl too [19:14] <bluelaguna> I just noticed a bunch of rpm related packages in my updates. Is Ubuntu officially supporting RPMs or something? [19:14] <ActionParsnip> !rpm | bluelaguna [19:14] <ubottu> bluelaguna: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) [19:14] <seanbrystone> I keep getting this error when trying to install anything, so i tried to uninstall the offending fonts, but errors abound: http://pastebin.com/m4d96ca44 [19:15] <bluelaguna> ActionParsnip: Right, but all of a sudden it wants me to install alien and a bunch of rpm related packages [19:15] <bluelaguna> Along with some LSB packages [19:15] <bluelaguna> (Install, not upgrade) [19:15] <ActionParsnip> Bluelaguna: strange [19:16] <bluelaguna> The following NEW packages will be installed: [19:16] <bluelaguna> alien bsd-mailx libqt3-mt libqt4-gui librpm0 librpmbuild0 librpmio0 lsb lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-desktop lsb-graphics m4 mailx ncurses-term pax postfix rpm [19:16] <PeskyJ> Woo, Slart Talon_ : Thanks guys :) [19:16] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: does the hint file it mentions, exist? [19:16] <jevidl> ActionParsnip: yeah, I've used that tool before as well. i was hoping for some more detailed reports to compare things like random reads/writes, and re-reading and re-writing. We're going to be comparing the performance of this compared to the same server using SSD drives, and need to understand where the limitations are for the SSD drives. [19:17] <purpzey> Can anyone recommend a simple mp3/sound editor that will just allow me to make an mp3 smaller by cutting off the end and/or beginning? Like the OLD OLD Cooledit? [19:17] <teage> Does anyone know how to open appearance preferences from the terminal? [19:17] <trism> bluelaguna: this is a problem with google-chrome-beta, they changed a dependency from lsb-base to lsb...personally I'm not upgrading till they fix this [19:17] <user23> can someone tell me how can i write changes to my xorg.cfg file ? [19:17] <ActionParsnip> Jevidl: I would use a standard platter based disk for user data/profile/databases due to the limited writes that ssds have [19:18] <bluelaguna> trism: I see. Thanks [19:18] <ActionParsnip> Trism: did you add the chromium ppa? [19:18] <seanbrystone> ActionParsnip, nope i did sudo dpkg -l ttf-dejavu, it shows it's not installed === john is now known as Guest25168 [19:18] <bluelaguna> ActionParsnip: Official Google Chrome === root is now known as Guest77837 [19:18] <ActionParsnip> User23: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf will run gedit and give you write access [19:19] <ActionParsnip> Bluelaguna: chromium is official, its just bleeding edge :) [19:20] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: try creating the file manually or reinstall the package then re-remove it [19:20] <seanbrystone> ok [19:20] <jevidl> ActionParsnip: yeah, we've done a lot of research on that. Through the use of write leveling, under subscription, and other tricks it looks like the intel X-25 series have managed to correct a lot of the early problems with durability. The known durability issues are the reason we want to test with it too - it's going to mirror a fairly active database as well as some syslog data... probably be pushing about 4GB/day over it. We'd like to know know just when [19:20] <jevidl> things hit the wall in case we ever find ourselves in a position where we really need the data throughput that the SSD drives offer. [19:21] <ActionParsnip> Jevidl: sounds interesting. If you find out useful stuff publish it online. It may help others === Rainbow is now known as Guest97968 [19:22] <franksalim> does anyone do moonlight development on ubuntu? [19:22] <user23> can someone tell me how can i write changes to my xorg.cfg file? [19:22] <ksoviero> user23, sudo nano <xorg.cfg> [19:22] <raendeer> ActionParsnip: noacpi didn't help, don't see the dma option in the boot options wiki, and don't see anything on google about problems with the motherboard and ubuntu. in fact, there are several posts/reviews with people who loaded ubuntu on it fine [19:22] <seanbrystone> ActionParsnip, im not sure how to recreate the font, but i tried installing ttf-dejavu and ttf-dejavu-extra and it gets dependency errors [19:22] <ActionParsnip> User23: I told you [19:22] <jevidl> ActionParsnip: I hope do that. AnandTech had a couple articles that went into pretty good depth about overall drive speeds and how the manufacturers were working around wear issues. if you'd like I can link you to the articles. [19:23] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: use: sudo touch /path/to/file [19:23] <ActionParsnip> Jevidl: I'll hit it up later. Web browsing on this phone on slow speed is painful [19:24] <seanbrystone> ActionParsnip, not sure what folder fonts go [19:24] <ActionParsnip> Jevidl: cheers though dude [19:24] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: no need. The file to touch is in your pastebin [19:24] <ksoviero> seanbrystone, .fonts, or /usr/share/fonts, i think [19:25] <seanbrystone> ok so sudo touch ttf-dejavu ~/.fonts? [19:25] <jevidl> ActionParsnip: cheers! [19:25] <pipegeek> parsnips are wonderful [19:26] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: no the file to touch is the .hint one which is detailed in the pastebin you linked in here [19:26] <pipegeek> they're everything that's delicious about carrots, distilled [19:26] <ActionParsnip> Pipegeek: parsnip+carrot+corriander soup ;) [19:26] <pipegeek> mmmmm [19:26] <ActionParsnip> Booya [19:27] <inveratulo> at what point during the installation process can I install JeOS ? [19:28] <seanbrystone> ActionParsnip, ok im prolly doing it all wrong but i still get errors [19:28] <seanbrystone> can you write out the command that i need? [19:29] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: read your pastebin. There is a filename endingin .hint. copy the whole filename and sudo touch it [19:29] <seanbrystone> did that === Rainbow_ is now known as Fusioon [19:29] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone. If you post the link again I can give you exacts but its somply a copy/paste from the page [19:29] <optimuz> hey [19:30] <seanbrystone> I keep getting this error when trying to install anything, so i tried to uninstall the offending fonts, but errors abound: http://pastebin.com/m4d96ca44 [19:30] <Wubuntu> I have a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 420 video card that gives me screen resolution problems with Ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone help me please? [19:30] <ActionParsnip> Seanbrystone: are there bugs logged for this situation [19:30] <Slart> inveratulo: if you've downloaded the jeos install cd it should be what you get.. [19:30] <optimuz> im back, still wasnt able to send the escape character in time [19:30] <endriu_> hey co to wogole to irc [19:30] <ActionParsnip> Wubuntu: have you installed the proprietary driver? [19:30] <Slart> inveratulo: if you have the regular desktop cd I don't think you can get jeos from that [19:30] <optimuz> normally i dont have to press enter or sth. after i send ^C [19:31] <optimuz> do i? [19:31] <Wubuntu> i do believe i've installed that driver [19:31] <theking> salut tous [19:31] <Slart> !fr | theking [19:31] <ubottu> theking: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois [19:32] <goostoff> hello room [19:32] <doolph> anyone know how to fix this make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s'. Stop. [19:33] <xangua> doolph: this is #ubuntu, not #arch === co_bi_sby is now known as sbySlatan_20co === sbySlatan_20co is now known as sbySlatan_co20 [19:33] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all [19:33] * _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat [19:33] <goostoff> my mysql databases have disappeared after a reboot, i don't know what may have caused this, does anyone have any hints to lead me into the right direction? [19:34] <Ddorda1> is it possible to lock an program under password? so only if you have the password you can run it? [19:34] <Wubuntu> this driver is the first to give me a stable resolution, but i'm still getting a malfunction saying "out of range" sometimes after rebooting [19:34] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm having trouble using a kickstart ks.cfg file to install ubuntu 9.10. Can somebody give me some pointers? [19:34] <Slart> Ddorda1: not easily, no [19:34] <_UsUrPeR_> specifically, what boot parameters need to be passed in order to boot with the ks.cfg [19:34] <Ddorda1> Slart: I know that not easily, that's why I asked - there an non easily way? [19:34] <theking> مرحبا [19:34] * _UsUrPeR_ has tried entering ks=http://<webserver>/ks.cfg, but that doesn't seem to be getting picked up upon install [19:35] <theking> من يتكلم عربي [19:35] <theking> ؟؟؟؟ [19:35] <Almark> hello [19:35] <FloodBot1> theking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [19:35] <seanbrystone> !Arabic | theking [19:35] <ubottu> theking: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [19:36] <Almark> I'm needing a certain file on a ubuntu cdrom, instead of having to just look for it online its already on my cdrom how do I find it among the mass of deb packages [19:36] <tiemonster> how do I allocate a pty when running a command as sudo? [19:36] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: what is the file? is it required for a config or make? [19:36] <inveratulo> Almark: "find /mnt/media/cdrom -name <yourfilehere>" [19:37] <box> bonsoir [19:37] <Almark> its sources.list for a ubuntu disto but I just need that default file [19:37] <box> #linux62 === matti_ is now known as mattyh [19:37] <Almark> inveratulo_ will that look inside the deb packages because that is where the file resides [19:37] <Trek> box: /join #linux62 [19:37] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: oh. that's important :) [19:37] <Almark> inveratulo_ I did try that but that doesn't search each deb [19:37] <Almark> lol [19:38] <box> /join #linux62 [19:38] <Trek> box: without the space at the beginning [19:38] <Almark> _UsUrPeR_ I was thinking that maybe a nice script would be handy for something like this [19:38] <box> ok [19:38] <box> merci [19:39] <box> #linux62 [19:39] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: sorry, bud. I've never lost a sources.list file before... I can pastebin mine for you :) [19:39] <_UsUrPeR_> I have no idea where it's located on the cd... [19:39] <inveratulo> Almark: this is just a guess but its probably in the dpkg deb [19:39] <Almark> _UsUrPeR_ I have one but I need the default for my distro === jon is now known as Guest5146 [19:39] <inveratulo> Almark: i know how to do it in RHEL but ... this ain't that :-P [19:40] <Almark> inveratulo_ yeah its a deb package but which one, what door to open lol [19:40] <Almark> inveratulo_ what is RHEL [19:40] <inveratulo> Almark: Red Hat Enterpise Linux [19:40] <DefineByte> I can't get inputlirc working in karmic. Worked fine in Jaunty. Any ideas why? [19:40] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: the only changes between distros is the postfix. I.E. "deb http://dlws/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted" would be for hardy while "deb http://dlws/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted" would be for karmic [19:41] <_UsUrPeR_> err not postfix. :) [19:41] <_UsUrPeR_> posterior? :) [19:42] <Almark> _UsUrPeR_ I'm using Hardy actually [19:42] <Losha> Almark: try the 'apt' deb package, if you have it. If you don't, you have a chicken & egg problem, and the best thing is to have someone with the same distro post a copy for you [19:42] <Almark> _UsUrPeR_ and you could check that and find the pkg name and then I can go from there? [19:42] <Almark> Losha_ how would I go about using apt to find that package? [19:43] <VCoolio> Almark: there is a site in which you can create your own sources.list, configured for your version, country etc, let me find it for you [19:43] <boss_mc> Almark: some variation on <<find . -name *.deb -exec grep "<filename>" '{}' \;>> [19:43] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: I am running hardy... [19:43] <yo_> salut [19:43] <yo_> besoin d'aide sur noip [19:43] <Pici> !fr | yo_ [19:43] <ubottu> yo_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois [19:44] <Almark> VCoolio_ thanks :) [19:44] <Losha> Almark: I am running hardy also. Try find /media/cdrom | egrep apt [19:44] <_UsUrPeR_> Almark: http://pastebin.com/m35b58ed2 that's my hardy sources.list [19:45] <VCoolio> Almark: http://repogen/simplylinux.ch [19:45] <Almark> _UsUrPeR_ thanks :) [19:45] <Almark> VCoolio_ thanks [19:45] <Almark> Losha thanks [19:45] * Almark thanks everyone [19:45] <timboy> can someone help me with bluetooth? it stoppped working and I've tried everything I could find on google... [19:46] <goostoff> i have missing mysql databases in 8.10, some appear to still be there but i need to be pointed in the right direction [19:46] <V4mpire> hi guys is it possible to find out what memory this system takes within linux ? [19:47] <Trek> V4mpire: yes, but not via linux [19:47] <Trek> V4mpire: memory as in RAM? [19:47] <ChmEarl> no eth0 on karmic MB:ep45-ud3r with RTL8111/8168B nic [19:47] <V4mpire> yes trek [19:48] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, back to my original question: has anybody in here ever used kickstart? [19:48] <V4mpire> would look up online but dont know the model of my system [19:48] <ChmEarl> r8169 driver should work on 2.6.30+ kernel [19:48] <Trek> V4mpire: go to http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx and use their memory search feature, shuold tell you if you can upgrade, what type of RAM to get, how much your system can handle, etc. [19:49] <sumit> S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] can any one help me on this [19:49] <Almark> Losha_ ok using find /media/dvd | egrep apt brought up a list of deb packages but I need to search them verbatium [19:49] <macman_> hi all on ubuntu 9.10 .. im on gnome and NetworkManger shows my wireless there but it is disabled .. how do i enable it [19:50] <Almark> Losha_ I need to know which deb holds sources.list lol I know this can be done, its funny with linux you have to look and look and play and play until you get what you want [19:50] <sumit> hey guys do u know any driver for this -S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] [19:50] <Lusule> hi guys :) anyone know where the #lyx channel has gone? It doesn't seem to be on OFTC anymore [19:50] <V4mpire> trek no good as i dont know the model else i would be able to look up via google === jofo_ is now known as jofo [19:50] <fabian> hola [19:50] <Trek> V4mpire: custom build? who made your computer? what motherboard? age of computer? [19:50] <V4mpire> its sumular to this Packard Bell IMEDIA 5061 but amd and 80gb hdd meant to be [19:51] <Pici> Lusule: Er. This is #ubuntu If anywhere this is on-topic, its probably #freenode [19:51] <Trek> V4mpire, how old is the computer? [19:51] <Lusule> Pici, thanks [19:51] <V4mpire> trek if i knew mobo i could look up online to never really looked inside [19:51] <V4mpire> umm [19:51] <V4mpire> trek 6 years or so [19:51] <Trek> hold on a sec V4mpore [19:51] <Trek> hold on a sec V4mpire * [19:51] <V4mpire> kk [19:52] <Trek> V4mpire: desktop or laptop? [19:52] <V4mpire> desktop [19:52] <Losha> Almark: that may not be the way to go. /etc/apt/sources.list is, (at least partly), built at install time, so there may not be an exact copy in a deb file. Better to take someone up on their offer to send you a copy in this instance... [19:53] <peleg> Upgrading to 8.04: I see this note: "The upgrade will freeze on the locales package if you are using the (current) Gutsy kernel, 2.6.22-15." -- how do I know which Kernel do I use? [19:53] <Almark> Losha_ its a special distro so I need it the original one I will look at um what others said [19:53] <Wubuntu> I have a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 420 video card that gives me screen resolution problems with Ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone please offer me any assistance? [19:54] <Losha> Alamma: what's 'special' about it? [19:54] <coz_> Wubuntu, did you open nvidia-settings with sudo then set the resolution and click write to xconfig? [19:55] <sumit> S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]??????????????? [19:55] <Trek> V4mpire, would REALLY help if I had the model information or something better than "it looks like this thing" [19:55] <V4mpire> trek yea if i had that i could look it up myself [19:55] <Wubuntu> no coz [19:56] <Wubuntu> i don't think this card with save the xconfiguration for some reason [19:56] <coz_> Wubuntu, you have to open sudo nvidia-settings for it to work [19:56] <coz_> Wubuntu, if that doesnt work you could go to #nvidia channel for more in depth help [19:57] <Wubuntu> thanks coz [19:57] <sumit> S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] driver help? [19:57] <guntbert> coz_: Wubuntu if it is a graphical app use gksudo (not sudo) [19:57] <ZykoticK9> coz_, Wubuntu use "gksu nvidia-settings"! Wubuntu are you getting a "Failed to parse" error when you try to save? [19:58] <Trek> V4mpire, without an actual model number, i don't think you can find it out easy, you tried looking for the memory in the BIOS screen? (before the OS loads) [19:58] <V4mpire> trek not worth the hassle just to reboot to look there [19:58] <Hyperzid> What is the purpose of running a private cloud server.. when I already run the servers in a virtual enviroment? [19:59] <DefineByte> OK, I'll try the forums. :) [19:59] <erUSUL> sumit: man savage [20:00] <Konquerer> so ive been looking around for information on how to get my microphone working on my Lenovo ideapad u330 but all the info ive found is for ubuntu 9.04 and im using ubuntu 9.10.....does anyone know a fix for this? [20:00] <WhiteCrow1> hi [20:00] <Trek> V4mpire, then i'm not sure what to tell you [20:00] <Wubuntu> gksu nvidia-settings doesn't open anything [20:00] <V4mpire> i can find a couple specs in the same box but not the correct 1 rather annoying lol [20:00] <WhiteCrow1> i have ? , if i can install ubuntu 8.4 or latter version on nokia 5800 ? [20:01] <sumit> erusul: i have done it my pic quality is quite dazzzy..not properly using compiz effect.. [20:01] <ZykoticK9> Wubuntu, does "nvidia-settings" by itself open anything? [20:01] <aleyva> hi, i've seen some strange behavior with open-iscsi on ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10, is this the right place to ask? [20:01] <Wubuntu> yes, i opens the Nvidia Settings Manager [20:01] <daishadar> if i want to run scripts upon suspend/resume, where should I put them? somewhere in /etc/pm? /etc/acpi? /etc/udev? [20:01] <flaco> hi all... anyone with a x4500HD video card??? [20:01] <erUSUL> sumit: compiz wont work in savage afaik [20:01] <ZykoticK9> Wubuntu, try with "gksudo nvidia-settings" then [20:02] <sumit> erusul:any spec reason? [20:02] <JoshuaL> is mysql-workbench in the ubuntu repo? [20:02] <Wubuntu> now it operns [20:02] <JoshuaL> i can not find it and i thought it was in the repo [20:03] <Wubuntu> Nvidia X server settings is what is see now [20:03] <VCoolio> JoshuaL: it's not in the karmic repos as far as I can see [20:03] <JoshuaL> hmm ok [20:03] <peleg> Upgrading to 8.04: I see this note: "The upgrade will freeze on the locales package if you are using the (current) Gutsy kernel, 2.6.22-15." -- how do I know which Kernel do I use? [20:03] <ZykoticK9> Wubuntu, try making your resolution setting change then use the Save to Xorg button [20:03] <erUSUL> sumit: compiz only works in whitelisted drivers WHITELIST="nvidia intel ati radeon radeonhd i810 fglrx" [20:03] <Wubuntu> okay [20:03] <JoshuaL> VCoolio, ah to bad [20:04] <Wubuntu> seems to save just fine [20:04] <Sky35> Hey, anyone familiar with Ubuntu file sharing with windows PCs? I cannot seem to get this to work no matter what I read/do [20:04] <sumit> erUSUL : ok ..thanks for help [20:04] <erUSUL> sumit: no problem [20:04] <purpzey> Sky35: I've gotten it to work, not sure if I can help, what have you tried? [20:04] <metropolis_pt2> peleg: uname -a [20:05] <VCoolio> JoshuaL: it never has been in the repos too, says packages.ubuntu.com; try to find a repo on launchpad or compile yourself [20:05] <peleg> metropolis_pt2, thanks! I have 2.6.22-16, so I should not expect any issues, I guess... [20:06] <JoshuaL> VCoolio, i already found a .deb on their website, then i was probably confused with something else. Do you know where i can ask to put it in the repo's? [20:06] <nexus> hi [20:07] <VCoolio> JoshuaL: no, sorry; doubtful if either maintainers or ubuntu devs want that: it takes time and testing [20:07] <Sky35> Well yesterday I just did a reformat to try and re-do the whole thing from scratch, so I havent done much at this point. I installed samba and what not, set up some unprivileged user accounts on the ubuntu system that match credentials with the windows PCs. Then used smbpasswd to add those user accounts to the samba user list (and used the matching password). And tried setting up guest-access shar [20:07] <Sky35> es, as well as non-guest both through nautilius, shares-admin and system-config-samba. I can access the list of shares on Windows, but when trying to access the actual share I get a 'The network name cannot be found' error. [20:07] <JoshuaL> VCoolio, ok, thanks for the help :) [20:07] <sAiLiN> hhhjv [20:07] <nexus> i installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 9.10 and copied .dev archive from /var/cache/apt/archive from another computer, but when i install something it always downloads the packages from the internet, where to tell that it picks up from cache ?? [20:08] <Hyperzid> Can anyone explain what the benefits of using clout server and cloud nodes is? [20:08] <steven__> ola [20:08] <Hyperzid> cload* [20:08] <Hyperzid> Cloud***** [20:08] <purpzey> Sky35: Hmmm...Well, the way I have it setup, I edited the samba confs to admit a certain range of IPs instead of logins. But also, are you sure that that the confs are pointed to the right directories? [20:08] <yusbel10> Hello Im having trouble setting up dual monitor [20:09] <nexus> Hyperzid, Cloud is an infrastructure providing virtual node instances, so you need to have a cloud server or cloud service provider first then you can use vm instances on it [20:09] <wathek> can I add this repos to my sources.list : deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free [20:09] <David_B> Hello, anyone want to help a newbie install ubuntu server? [20:09] <erUSUL> wathek: no; debian repos are not compatible [20:10] <wathek> erUSUL, ok [20:10] <Sky35> well using Nautilus the shares don't actually go into the smb.conf file, but the share I did add through shares-admin and system-config-samba does have the proper path [20:10] <Hyperzid> nexus, so there is no point in setting up a private cloud only for internal use? [20:10] <Sky35> @ purpzey [20:10] <Hyperzid> nexus, and kinda be a cloud service provider myself? [20:10] <nexus> you can, to simulate the infrastructure and for learning purposes [20:10] <purpzey> Sky35: Which tutorial did you follow for the setup? [20:10] <nexus> yes you can be [20:11] <Scombr0> I'm sorry, but I don't remember the package to install for C compiler. [20:11] <Stavros> Scombr0: build-essential [20:11] <Scombr0> make-build? gcc-build? [20:11] <Hyperzid> nexus, but is there any benefits for doing that.. compeard to just virtualizing everything? [20:11] <Scombr0> That one, thanks Stavros. [20:11] <nexus> but need a big machine that can run instances demanded by customers, but as i said you can do this on limited scale for learning and expermintation [20:11] <Stavros> how can i change my default gamma setting permanently? [20:11] <Wubuntu> thankyou all for your help [20:11] <Sky35> purpzey: Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/networking-shares.html as well as http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Samba_File_Sharing and lots of googling [20:11] <iceroot> Scombr0: gcc [20:12] <yusbel10> Can anyone help me please [20:12] <Cube``> why is it ridiculously hard or simply impossible to get a simple bluetooth (read: technology from 5 years ago, nothing cutting-edge) headset to work with ubuntu? [20:12] <nexus> i would say no. [20:12] <nexus> i installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 9.10 and copied .dev archive from /var/cache/apt/archive from another computer, but when i install something it always downloads the packages from the internet, where to tell that it picks up from cache ?? [20:12] <nexus> .deb* [20:13] <purpzey> Sky35: Have you tried getting to the via Start --> Network places, instead of \\server.IP.addy ? [20:13] <Hyperzid> nexus, atm.. in my company.. we got 2 big ass hyper-v nodes.. so we're planning to run several ubuntu server's on virtualized here.. [20:13] <nexus> ok . [20:13] <Hyperzid> nexus, but I was just thinking it whould be better to start building my own cloud.. [20:13] <Hyperzid> nexus, if it got any benefits. [20:14] <guntbert> !ot | Hyperzid [20:14] <ubottu> Hyperzid: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [20:14] <ZykoticK9> nexus, apt will automatically use the DEBs in /var/cache/apt/archive -- are you sure it's not downloading newer versions? [20:14] <Cube``> why is it ridiculously hard or simply impossible to get a simple bluetooth (read: technology from 5 years ago, nothing cutting-edge) headset to work with ubuntu? [20:14] <iceroot> Cube``: dont repeat. just post usefull infos [20:14] <Hyperzid> guntbert, is ubuntu cloud off topic? [20:15] <nexus> yes, it shows me 30 mins for installing vls which is already there from where i got the debs [20:15] <yusbel10> everytime I save the nvidia x config file i get a message " Failed to parse exsisting X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! Even in gksudo terminal. [20:15] <guntbert> Hyperzid: this channel is for support not just for talking about ... [20:15] <V4mpire> Trek, mobo is ms-6786 ver 1 but keep finding ver 2 specs [20:15] <Hyperzid> guntbert, ok. [20:16] <Trek> V4mpire, who made the mobo? ( I could google it but I don't want to) [20:16] <ZykoticK9> yusbel10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/379290/ [20:16] <Hyperzid> guntbert, didnt think about that. :-) [20:16] <Cube``> iceroot: ok sorry. i seem to have trouble to get my headset to work. any ideas? [20:16] <V4mpire> trek dont know couldn't see that on there [20:16] <guntbert> Hyperzid: it was just a gentle reminder :-) [20:16] <V4mpire> MSI i think [20:16] <ZykoticK9> nexus, don't PM people without asking first [20:16] <Noelia> ola a todos [20:16] <iceroot> Cube``: post details to the channel, which headset, which ubuntu, what is lsusb and so on showing [20:16] <nexus> sorry that was meant for Hyperzid [20:17] <ZykoticK9> !es | Noelia [20:17] <Noelia> -,mxCzvmmmf [20:17] <ubottu> Noelia: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [20:17] <Noelia> hello [20:17] <Pupeno> how do you change what's the default program for opening audio files? [20:17] <Sky35> purpzey: Network places is same thing, but I did manage to get in (works either way) finally using my ubuntu username/password as credentials (although windows only asks sometimes), and only on shares that don't have guest access it seems. And only on one of the computers. Other one is still giving an error. [20:17] <Noelia> i'm ariasna [20:17] <arthur_> @pulp fiction [20:17] <nexus> So ZykoticK9 , is there any command i need to tell synaptec to do from local archives [20:18] <ZykoticK9> nexus, nope [20:18] <nexus> then y it does not work as expected? [20:18] <David_B> hello… can people see this message? [20:18] <guntbert> David_B: we hear you [20:18] <raendeer> David_B: no [20:18] <ZykoticK9> nexus, permission problem perhaps? I'm still guess wrong DEB files. [20:18] <schme> Hello . Is this the proper place to ask for xubuntu related issues? [20:19] <purpzey> Sky35: Yeah, I'm not sure, I just know I set it up to access 2 single directories, to a range of IPs, instead of a login...You are welcome to take a look at my confs, I'll pastebin them if you want. But beyond that I prolly am not of much more use. [20:19] <stdisease> did I miss a pulp fictions reference?? [20:19] <Trek> !xubuntu | schme [20:19] <ubottu> schme: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [20:19] <David_B> I am trying to ask a question on the ubuntu beginners channel, but there is no response [20:19] <David_B> is that channel any different to this one? [20:19] <guntbert> !ask | David_B [20:19] <ubottu> David_B: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:19] <Sky35> Sure I guess, its a local network so I'm not really to worried about user-rights, but even setting up the shares as guest-access doesn't let me into them. [20:20] <V4mpire> trek did u see what i said about who made it ? [20:20] <schme> Trek: Thanks. [20:20] <stdisease> Sky35, samba troubles? [20:20] <yusbel10> ZykoticK9, Thank you [20:20] <nixpet> hey guys im having a problem getting my stock screenlet to load on startup, so i added a startup application of python /usr/share/screenlets/Stocks/StocksScreenlet.py. Am i doing this right? [20:20] <ZykoticK9> yusbel10, glad to help [20:21] <Sky35> stdisease: You got it. Windows/Ubuntu are not playing along at all. [20:21] <David_B> ok… I can install ubuntu desktop on my computer fine, but i cannot complete installation on ubuntu server. It reaches the grub stage, and won't get past that. How can I fix this issue? [20:21] <Secretar> how can gie me a root? plsss [20:21] <nexus> ZykoticK9, i copy the deb files with sudo cp as i cant write to /var without sudo power, and also synaptec is a sudo thing so it should not be permissions ?? [20:21] <VCoolio> nixpet: if that is where the screenlet is located, sure; try it in a terminal [20:21] <Secretar> how can give me a root? plsss [20:21] <stdisease> Sky35, what's your 'security=' setting? [20:21] <Trek> V4mpire, yeah I did, that mobo isn't listed there, perhaps the RAM doesn't exist? i'll be right back. [20:21] <Biskit> how can I acquire permissions on a portable harddrive? I'm trying to backup to a drive used by my windoze pc [20:21] <metropolis_pt2> Pupeno: you can change that by right-clicking on a file with taht extension, preferences, tab "open with", and select your player [20:21] <ZykoticK9> nexus, where both systems the same architecture (32 bit or 64bit)? [20:22] <nixpet> Vcoolio, it works in consle however when i retarted my computer it doesnt load up [20:22] <V4mpire> trek yea tis an odd 1 its not under imedia area of pb site either lol [20:22] <nexus> yes, infact it is the same machine [20:22] <purpzey> Sky35: http://pastebin.com/m67c7ef66 -- everything else is default [20:22] <nexus> with two hard drives [20:22] <nixpet> Vcoolio, do i need to sudo before that? [20:22] <VCoolio> nixpet: no, in no circumstances [20:22] <schme> Trek: Sadly #xubuntu seems completely dead (: [20:22] <ZykoticK9> nexus, check in /var/cache/apt/archives -- are the downloaded files (check timestamp perhaps) the same versions? [20:23] <Trek> V4mpire, I found the information on the mobo, i'll be right back [20:23] <David_B> did the staff see my question? [20:23] <sebsebseb> I am back [20:23] <Sky35> stdisease: security = user, purpzey: thanks, ill try playing with it [20:23] <VCoolio> nixpet: try to delay it; write a script, call that in startup apps; line 1: #!/bin/bash line2: sleep 15; line 3: python blahblah [20:23] <nexus> ZykoticK9, u mean the files which synaptec gets from the internet and the one already there ?? [20:23] <Trek> V4mpire: http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?i=spec_quasar&ppn=P852000301 [20:23] <David_B> is there a support number I can ring? [20:24] <Trek> V4mpire: thats your mobo, info is under Specifications / Memory [20:24] <sebsebseb> !pm > Secretar [20:24] <ubottu> Secretar, please see my private message [20:24] <guntbert> !attitude | David_B [20:24] <ubottu> David_B: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [20:24] <V4mpire> ahh strange that they only list it under their ixtreme range [20:24] <scottsee123> Hey everyone. I installed 9.10 last night, tried a Realtek RTL8187L patch on my wifi drivers, now I have a kernel panic.. How can I fix this? [20:24] <V4mpire> thanks trek [20:24] <karpus> hello, no program seems to be able to use the notification system of ubuntu (tried pidgin and banshee), what to do? [20:25] <Trek> V4mpire, one second though, so wait [20:25] <nathan__> I have really choppy streaming video in 9.10, any way to fix that? [20:25] <ZykoticK9> nexus, i'm sorry i don't know why it isn't working for you. best of luck. [20:25] <David_B> volunteers? is there an offical support channel? [20:25] <nexus> ZykoticK9, thanks for your help [20:25] <Secretar> how ca help me.... i want to catch some root but i don't know how.... [20:26] <Biskit> how can I acquire permissions on a portable harddrive? I'm trying to backup to a drive used by my windoze pc [20:26] <guntbert> David_B: this is it - as for your problem: did you run an md5sum check on your iso before burning it? [20:26] <imasen> Secretar, you can use sudo -s to get root, if you are in the admin group [20:26] <guntbert> !md5sum | David_B [20:26] <ubottu> David_B: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [20:26] <David_B> yes [20:26] <Trek> V4mpire, you're not gonna find any RAM on the market thats compatible with your system [20:26] <David_B> the md5sum was fine [20:26] <Trek> V4mpire, time to consider upgrades [20:26] <switchgirl> Namoroka is rubbish i need to DOWNGRADE to the normal version of ff how to do this? [20:27] <Secretar> !root Secretar [20:27] <Trek> V4mpire, but I can check my sources for prices [20:27] <V4mpire> trek i dont use this for alot which is why im using it and dont have spending money spare for a new pc [20:27] <scottsee123> Is it possible to undo compiled drivers and revert back to the originals from ubuntu?? [20:27] <nathan__> any way to fix choppy streaming video in 9.10? [20:27] <ZykoticK9> Biskit, for FAT/NTFS mounts you need to use special mount parameters (i'm affraid I don't know what they are, i don't do MS stuff sorry, but someone else should be able to help you out) [20:27] <burivoy> Hi everybody [20:28] <rabbi1> usb drive not working [20:28] <blakkheim> nathan__: what kind of video [20:28] <rabbi1> any help? [20:28] <Trek> V4mpire, how much RAM do you want? you can hold up to 2GB. how much you got in there now? [20:28] <Secretar> !shell Secretar [20:28] <nathan__> java I think [20:28] <guntbert> !who | David_B - I didn't see your answer [20:28] <ubottu> David_B - I didn't see your answer: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [20:28] <Biskit> I went to 9.10 but don't like all of it - and there isn't a downgrade path = but I don't want to lose my files [20:28] <Secretar> how can i got a shell? [20:28] <metropolis_pt2> switchgirl: remove the firefox package and add this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/ [20:28] <blakkheim> nathan__: what cpu do you have [20:28] <V4mpire> got 512 trek but that will come out as its 2 256mb sticks as the origional 512mb stick is missing so only 1gb for now [20:28] <imasen> Secretar, do you have gnome or kde installed? [20:29] <Trek> V4mpire, let me see what we've got here... [20:29] <Secretar> imasen [20:29] <nathan__> intel dual core? [20:29] <Secretar> no [20:29] <Sky35> Okay I just removed/purged samba and did a autoremove/cleanup so I should be back to factory default settings now [20:29] <blakkheim> nathan__: specifically which one and at what clock speed [20:29] <guntbert> David_B: what happens when you boot with the server CD? [20:29] <nixpet> VCoolio, when i run the script it works. however on startup it still doesnt load the screenlets! [20:29] <David_B> guntbert: I did MD5SUM on the iso before i burnt the cd and it seemed fine [20:29] <V4mpire> bah shame it didn't go quite as far as ddr400 trek as i got a gig stick here lol [20:29] <nathan7> blakkheim: ? [20:29] <scottsee123> help? with undooing bad wifi drivers???? [20:29] <Secretar> imasen i run from windows right now [20:29] <Biskit> off to google it some more [20:29] <nathan7> blakkheim: I have a p4, but why are you asking? [20:29] <Trek> V4mpire: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141217 [20:29] <David_B> guntbert: I get the menu that allows you to install, or check cd etc [20:30] <Trek> V4mpire: that link shows you compatible RAM, in two 1GB sticks of that speed [20:30] <blakkheim> nathan7: wasn't talking to you [20:30] <guntbert> David_B: seemed? with md5sum it either matches or it doesn't :) [20:30] <David_B> guntbert: i checked the cd, and it said it was fine [20:30] <imasen> Secretar, where you want to run a shell. Local or remote machine? [20:30] <David_B> guntbert: it matched [20:30] <guntbert> David_B: ok, and what happens then? [20:30] <V4mpire> wow thats expensive for old memory [20:30] <Secretar> imasen : remote machine [20:30] <imasen> okay === alex1 is now known as Guest90722 [20:30] <Guest90722> hello [20:30] <Secretar> imasen : can you help me? [20:31] <scottsee123> I need help [20:31] <David_B> guntbert: i start the installer, and go through the motions. when it gets to the grub installtion step, it gets to 16% 'searching for other os' and then shows the installtion step menu [20:31] <nathan7> blakkheim: oops, I got hilighted xD [20:31] <Trek> V4mpire, or two of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134592 === jevidl_ is now known as jevidl [20:31] <jajjax> hello, my padlock icon that displays if there is any updates to download or not is gone [20:31] <imasen> secretar, okay then you need putty. This is a SSH-Client. If your remote machine has got OpenSSH Server installed you are able to connect to him with user/password. [20:31] <nathan__> blakkheim Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz [20:31] <David_B> guntbert: I can then select finish installtion, but then my computer won't boot to hdd [20:31] <schme> I get confused here. It used to be that I start my ubuntu and it pops up a thing asking me for a password, and then the computer knows the passwd for my wifi. Now it pops up instead a thing that asks the passwd for the wifi. How do I check what it was? It must be stored in that other software. [20:31] <V4mpire> trek im also in the uk [20:32] <Trek> V4mpire, ah, then you know generally what you're looking for [20:32] <Trek> V4mpire, i dont know of any UK sites thoug hfor it [20:32] <lekefly> How to force quit? is there another way than alt + f2? [20:32] <Secretar> imasen : i have putty [20:32] <blakkheim> nathan__: your cpu might be too slow for that specific video's playback (the fact that it's flash or java-based makes it much more cpu-intensive) [20:33] <V4mpire> i found 1 trek but at these prices might try my luck with ebay or something [20:33] <imasen> Secretar, okay and where do you stuck? [20:33] <Trek> V4mpire: maybe, or find old computers lying on the roadside [20:33] <nexus> is there a way to install ubuntu on a win 98 machine with CD boot not available, also wubi does not help... ? [20:33] <askhader> Does anyone here know how to get sound working on Ubuntu Karmic for HP laptops with intel-hda sound cards? [20:33] <Jordan_U> David_B, You can get commercial ( paid ) support from Canonical: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services [20:33] <scottsee123> I need some help [20:33] <rabbi1> usb drive not workin, any help? [20:33] <lovena> anyone else use a centrino and get acpi-freq stuck when resuming from sleep? [20:34] <guntbert> David_B: strange - never heard about that - except with borked images - please do run a md5sum on the server iso (I'm not sure if the "check CD" does a complete check) [20:34] <Xonique> Anything like XCode? [20:34] <rabbi1> usb drive not working in 8.04 any help? [20:34] <Jordan_U> David_B, What exactly happens when you try to boot? [20:34] <notk0> hello, I am having an older laptop (Dell inspiron 1100) and I updated my kernel (auto update) and it doesn't show anything on the screen after the load screen [20:34] <David_B> guntbert: I did an md5sum on the iso, how would I do one on the server? [20:34] <notk0> I can still hear the sound though [20:34] <notk0> I have to choose an older kernel in grub to boot [20:34] <blakkheim> !info build-essential | Xonique [20:35] <ubottu> Xonique: build-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.4 (karmic), package size 7 kB, installed size 48 kB [20:35] <nathan__> blakk that seems strange to me though, because I have never had any issues with windows [20:35] <guntbert> David_B: I meant on the "server iso" ... [20:35] <toastedmilk> Would it be ironic if an old man offered alcohol to a young man, when later on the old man is accused of a murder that the young man committed? [20:35] <Secretar> imasen : i don't now how i get shells [20:35] <blakkheim> nathan__: the linux version of flash isn't exactly the best in the world [20:35] <erUSUL> !ide | Xonique [20:35] <ubottu> Xonique: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator [20:35] <David_B> jordan_U: It used to just stop at 'verifying DMI pool…..', but now since installing desktop and installing server again it gets 'grub error 17' [20:35] <guntbert> !oot | toastedmilk [20:35] <imasen> rabbi1, run a terminal and try lsusb. see if your usb-drive was detected [20:35] <guntbert> !ot | toastedmilk [20:35] <ubottu> toastedmilk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [20:35] <David_B> guntbert: as i said, md5sum on iso matched [20:35] <Smashcat> Hello, I've got a server running Ubuntu 7.10, and want to NFS mount from it to my new server running 9.10. The old server is exporting ok, but the new server cannot mount (gets "Access Denied" error, even though the old server says it has authenticated it). Is NFS impossible between 7.10 and 9.10? Should I just use Samba? [20:35] <nathan__> so there isn't exactly some thing I can do? [20:36] <blakkheim> !7.10 | Smashcat [20:36] <ubottu> Smashcat: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. [20:36] <nathan7> I wish I had a less common name D: [20:36] <lexe> Hi everyone [20:36] <blakkheim> nathan__: not really, flash is proprietary software [20:36] <imasen> Secretar, start putty, put in the ip-adress or dns-name of your remote machine, then you click "open" and put your username/password in after it you got a shell [20:37] <metropolis_pt2> notk0: as a workaround you can install the package startupmanager and select the older kernel as default boot-entry.. do you have any proprietary drivers like the amd fglrx oder nvidias driver? [20:37] <Smashcat> So noone has any ideas about NFS? Guess it's not used much now ;-) [20:37] <guntbert> David_B: sorry - I was not sure if were talking about the same thing - and my memory of the server install is not too recent - if you don't get a good answer here you might want to try #ubuntu-server [20:37] <notk0> metropolis_pt2, no it has a intel videocard, but it has some strange problems, like lower resolutions don't scale among others [20:37] <rabbi1> imasen: it shows four bus [20:37] <David_B> guntbert: thanks, I'll ask there also [20:37] <lexe> Does anyone know if nvidia xid errors are caused by software (driver) bugs or hardware malfunction? [20:37] <toastedmilk> Smashcat: well, maybe some people do, but 7.10 is olddd. [20:38] <stdisease> Smashcat, to the contrary - but your software versions might be a bit too old and any advice you get could not apply [20:38] <toastedmilk> stdisease: weird. [20:38] <metropolis_pt2> notk0: hm, thats quite strange [20:38] <stdisease> Smashcat, for what it is worth, check you have the nfs-common and portmap running [20:38] <burivoy> I have old fashioned hp pavilion zv5000 and installed on it Lucid Lynx. After updating external NTFS hard drives and sound disappeared. [20:38] <schme> ok I think I have broken things. How do I reinstall the ubuntu without losing my files? [20:38] <stdisease> Smashcat, those are services [20:38] <Smashcat> Yeah, i know it's old, that's why I want to move all my stuff from the old server (2TB) to the new one (6TB raid on it) [20:38] <VCoolio> nixpet: you were gone for a while, but did you try to call python /usr/share/screenlets-manager/screenlets-daemon.py first? [20:38] <rabbi1> imasen: it lists four bus, all device 001 and id 0000:0000 [20:39] <Smashcat> I can see the exports are ok with "showmount -e" [20:39] <notk0> metropolis_pt2, well it does show the loading screen, can it be something with xorg? I heard its automatic in the latest ubuntu verison [20:39] <Jordan_U> David_B, It might be worth trying Ubuntu 9.10 server, even though it's not an LTS release. [20:39] <nixpet> Vcoolio, Yes. [20:39] <toastedmilk> Smashcat: you could probably remove a headache with samba, but do whatcha do [20:39] <stdisease> schme, back up your /home/<your user name> directory's contents, for exmple === Sky_ is now known as Sky35 [20:39] <toastedmilk> schme: lol. [20:39] <David_B> jordan_u: i am trying 9.10 [20:39] <schme> stdisease: Ok. How do I enable my wifi network without getting the thing that asks me for my passwd? [20:39] <imasen> rabbi1, you should find your usb-drive in the list [20:39] <David_B> jordan_u: i just downloaded the default option from the download page [20:39] <Smashcat> Yeah, I'll use samba then - ironic that Microsoft tech will save the day - hehe [20:39] <stdisease> schme, I have Zero experience with wifi, sorry [20:40] <imasen> rabbi1, like manufacturers name or something [20:40] <schme> :( [20:40] <schme> it used to ask me in X, but now X does not start :( [20:40] <Jordan_U> David_B, And you get grub error 17 after installing 9.10? [20:40] <rabbi1> imasen: nothing :( [20:40] <toastedmilk> schme: man dhclient [20:40] <Secretar> imasen i don't have ip-adress / usermane / passwd [20:40] <schme> toastedmilk: Problem is that it stored my wifi passwd in some keyring thing. How do I access this witout X ? [20:40] <toastedmilk> Jordan_U: you need grub2 [20:40] <David_B> jordan_u: well, after installing 9.10 desktop and then installing 9.10 server the error 17 appeared [20:40] <metropolis_pt2> notk0: can you switch to any VT in this state with Alt + F1 etc.? [20:40] <Jordan_U> David_B, If so then you probably just need to change the boot order, grub is installed to a different drive than you are booted from [20:41] <toastedmilk> schme: you can run 'man dhclient' in the terminal, which doesn't require x [20:41] <David_B> jordan_u: I have two drives, but configured in a hardware RAID [20:41] <d3xter> Smashcat, why not dist-upgrade your 7.10 server? [20:41] <notk0> metropolis_pt2, haven't tried it I will try it sometimes thanks :P [20:41] <imasen> Secretar, no ip-adress - no ssh-connection. what kind of server is the remote machine? [20:41] <Jordan_U> toastedmilk, Was that comment really meant for me? [20:41] <David_B> jordan_u: so i don't know where else it is trying to boot from [20:41] <lexe> Does anyone know if nvidia xid errors are caused by software (driver) bugs or hardware malfunction? I'm experiencing random hard freezes, these xid errors are the last errors available in syslog. [20:41] <schme> toastedmilk: Yes. But I need the passwd for my wifi. And it stored that in some keyring manager :( [20:41] <toastedmilk> Jordan_U: yes. [20:41] <keppla> hi [20:42] <Smashcat> d3xter - I'm guessing the upgrade will break most of it - it hasn't been touched for over a year. Want to move all my data off, then reinstall. [20:42] <toastedmilk> Jordan_U: no. [20:42] <imasen> rabbi1, can you see some lights blinking on the harddisk [20:42] <toastedmilk> David_B: you need grub2 [20:42] <stdisease> I need a drink [20:42] <toastedmilk> schme: um.. do you mean the password to your router? [20:42] <schme> What is the console tool for accessing and viewing my passwords stored in that keyring thing? [20:42] <David_B> toastedmilk: ok…. how would i go about getting/installing that? [20:42] <schme> toastedmilk: The WAP-PSK [20:42] <toastedmilk> David_B: sudo apt-get install grub2 i should think [20:43] <d3xter> Smashcat, what about a livecd/usb? [20:43] <d3xter> just some options to do the work :) [20:43] <toastedmilk> schme: ...reset your router and the password will change back to the factory default. [20:43] <David_B> toastedmilk: but don't i need to boot to do that? [20:43] <Sky35> Whats an alternative to sharing files between Ubuntu/Windows other then samba? [20:43] <toastedmilk> David_B: oh, lol. you don't have any other stable kernel images to load? [20:43] <navetz> can someone help me figure out how to benchmark a server? I don't know whats causing it to be so slow. [20:44] <Jordan_U> David_B, Follow these instructions and make sure that grub gets installed to both drives: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide , I can guarantee that grub from 9.10 is not installed on the drive you are booted from since the error you are getting is from grub legacy. [20:44] <Smashcat> d3xter: It's an idea but the old server is up in my attic - it's cold ;-) Want to try to get the data off it, then power it down and sort out moving machines around tomorrow [20:44] <keppla> hi. is there a possibility, that when i portscan an remote machine, the ports listed are influenced by the machine i am scanning from? [20:44] <brontosaurusrex> what is the easy way to benchmark HD's ? [20:44] <schme> toastedmilk: That will mess it up for everyone else. and it is stored on this laptop too. It asked me long time ago and it stored it using a keyring manager. normally it asks me for a passwd to THAT tool. I am asking how I look at the passwd, or run that tool in console. [20:44] <d3xter> Smashcat, alright, then smb is the only viable option [20:44] <David_B> toastedmilk: new machine [20:44] <stdisease> Sky35, there's scp [20:44] <toastedmilk> David_B: yikes. [20:44] <David_B> jordan_u: thank you [20:45] <toastedmilk> schme: k. [20:45] <rabbi1> imasen: nothing it shows... any help? [20:45] <lime> brontosaurusrex, hdparm -t? [20:45] <stdisease> Sky35, scp/rsync if you have cygwin on your windows machine [20:45] <Jordan_U> David_B, np [20:45] <toastedmilk> Jordan_U: sorry, haha [20:45] <imasen> rabbi1, maybe it needs electricity or something [20:45] <schme> toastedmilk: Do you have any idea how to run that tool in console or where the WPA-PSK is stored? [20:45] <Smashcat> d3xter: yeah, thinking of either doing it via samba or just scp'ing the backups over... Thanks anyway [20:45] <stdisease> Sky35, there are no non-commercial versions of an NFS client for a windows environment [20:46] <stdisease> .. that I have come across [20:46] <d3xter> Smashcat, i would prefer ftp over scp. no problem :) [20:46] <Sky35> stdisease: I just wish I could get this stupid smb working, and I have NO idea why it doesn't want to work properly [20:46] <stdisease> Sky35, what is the value of the 'security=' line in your smb.conf [20:46] <Smashcat> d3xter: Yeah, it doesn't have ftp server on it though - heh! [20:47] <toastedmilk> schme: first of all, if you set a password to protect your network on your machine locally, try adjusting that setting to try and find what dictionary key it is attached to. Otherwise check KWallet. If it's a router-based password that protects your network from the network gateway, you can't run that from your computer. [20:47] <Sky35> I might set-up an FTP server instead... that would do the job I want, but smb would be the best option.. if it worked [20:47] <rabbi1> imasen: u mean prob with my MBD? [20:47] <toastedmilk> Sky35: smb is awesome [20:48] <rabbi1> imasen: actually its recoginizin in windows also [20:48] <ejv> people still use smb? [20:48] <Sky35> toastedmilk: Wanna try walking me through it? I can't get it working... windows pcs just keep coming back with 'network name cannot be found' [20:48] <Smashcat> ejv: What do you use instead of smb then? [20:48] <toastedmilk> ejv: lol [20:48] <metropolis_pt2> ejv: I just switched back from NFS to SMB, since this oldskool unix user ID authentifications sucks big time [20:49] <schme> toastedmilk: There's a WPA-PSK and it asked me on this laptop. And I entered it, then it stored it using some keyring-manager. And that has just taken care of things automatically for me. I seem to be lacking kwallet too :( I installed it but it says I need X running :( [20:49] <Some_Person> Both MythTV and VLC get "Operation not permitted" when trying to access my tv tuner. How can I fix this? [20:49] <imasen> rabbi1, what is mbd - sorry i am not from america or something [20:49] <mneptok> Sky35: why not SFTP? far easier to set up. [20:49] <ejv> it's 2010, isn't it time we adopt CIFS? [20:49] <lime> metropolis_pt2, It's a question on where authentication takes place [20:49] <rabbi1> imasen: mother board [20:49] <toastedmilk> schme: yeah man idk. i'd just reset the router [20:49] <stdisease> imasen, you don't necessarily have to be from America to know what mbd is. Just saying. [20:49] <doslash> i have ubuntu 9.04 and i want to default back to an older the original kernel because my dial-up modem driver works with it. how do i do that? [20:49] <rabbi1> "/etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." how do i solve this prob now? [20:50] <ubyserver> I'm in VM trying to do apt-get install linux-generic And it does not detect the internet. How do I load the network drivers in ubuntu rescue [20:50] <Sky35> mneptok: SFTP as opposed to SMB? SMB has integration that (S)FTP doesn't, but (S)FTP is a suitable alternative if I end up giving up on SMB. I just cannot get it [20:50] <lime> Some_Person, What is the name of the device? [20:50] <mneptok> Sky35: SFTP as opposed to FTP [20:50] <schme> toastedmilk: I will have to wait for like 4 days to have someone do that. And the passwd has been entered. I just need this gnome-keyring thing to tell me what it is :( [20:50] <Some_Person> lime: It's a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1950 [20:50] <toastedmilk> Sky35: what's the dealio [20:50] <imasen> stdisease, rabbi1, I know what a motherboard is - thank you [20:50] <schme> (so I can back my stuff up and reinstall and run X) [20:50] <toastedmilk> schme: ....what? Do you know what a router is? [20:50] <Sky35> mneptok: Oh, I was just saying using FTP in general, no specific protocol. Havne't gotten that far. [20:50] <stdisease> Sky35, why can't you get it to work, exactly? and what's the value of the line I asked you about [20:50] <lime> Some_Person, Do you know if it has a device name under /dev? [20:50] <imasen> rabbi1, do you have a power supply for the harddisk? [20:50] <ejv> doslash: go into grub and change the kernel target that gets booted [20:50] <schme> toastedmilk: Yes. I know what a router is. [20:51] <Some_Person> lime: It does. /dev/video1 [20:51] <imasen> rabbi1, if you have one, use it! [20:51] <Sky35> stdisease: the value was user. I guess you missed me saying it lol. [20:51] <lime> Some_Person, What is the output of ls -l /dev/video1? [20:51] <ubyserver> I'm at root prompt in Rescue, how do I load the network so I can use apt-get install linux-generic [20:51] <ejv> Smashcat toastedmilk metropolis_pt2 : cifs [20:51] <rabbi1> imasen: with out that how can i chat with u? [20:51] <toastedmilk> schme: then why the hell do you have to wait four days for someone to reset it? Why don't you just get up, go over to it, and hold the reset button for 45 seconds like everyone else! [20:51] <toastedmilk> ejv: *googles* [20:51] <Sky35> toastedmilk: The problem is that I setup samba and I want to connect to the shares with windows, but I just get 'network name cannot be found' when trying to access the shares (windows machines can access the list of shares no problem though) [20:51] <stdisease> Sky35, oh dear, sorry - guess because I didnt see the red highlight in all this mess [20:51] <rabbi1> imasen: will get back, priority problem now [20:51] <rabbi1> "/etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." how do i solve this prob now? [20:51] <Some_Person> lime: crwxrwxrwx+ 1 root video 81, 1 2010-02-18 13:53 /dev/video1 [20:51] <stdisease> Sky35, ok - have you run 'smbpasswd' on your desired user accounts? [20:51] <schme> toastedmilk: It's not my router. I think the admin guy would get fucking upset, and also everyone else. and I dunno what it would be reset to. [20:51] <metropolis_pt2> Some_Person: how do you try to open it? via Video4Linux? [20:52] <ejv> toastedmilk: http://linux-cifs.samba.org/ [20:52] <abou> I'm planning to get a satnav, and I'm wondering which brand / model comes with the PC software which is the most Ubuntu-friendly [20:52] <mneptok> Sky35: http://dokan-dev.net/en/download/#sshfs [20:52] <Smashcat> ejv: so does that allow sharing to Windows clients? [20:52] <Some_Person> metropolis_pt2: The PVR function in VLC, and using MythTV [20:52] <doslash> ejv: if i change default to say 3 which is the original kernel and the system updates again doesn't that kernel end up becoming 4 and I end up with the wrong kernel booting? [20:52] <mneptok> Sky35: never used it myself [20:52] <toastedmilk> schme: ..where the hell are you getting your internet from? [20:52] <UberTaco> Yo folks [20:52] <Trek> is there a CLI addon or something that will let me run a GUI program but then detach it from the terminal window? [20:52] <schme> toastedmilk: from the desktop machine [20:52] <metropolis_pt2> Some_Person: ah, okay, never tried that [20:52] <UberTaco> Trek: you're looking for something like screen for X [20:52] <ubyserver> uberTaco I'm eating Tacos right now while working on ubuntu :) [20:53] <stdisease> Sky35, and also make sure the 'workgroup' value is the same in both systems [20:53] <lime> Some_Person, Hmm, and the error is "access denied"? [20:53] <ejv> Trek: & (background it) === mike_ is now known as Guest56076 [20:53] <ubyserver> Sorry had to point that out. [20:53] <Sky35> stdisease: toastedmilk: What I did was: Installed samba. Created unprivileged user accounts in ubuntu for the windows accounts. Ran smbpasswd on the user accounts and used the password of the windows machines. [20:53] <Smashcat> ejv: heh, ah, CIFS is SMB - good one ;-) [20:53] <rabbi1> "/etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." how do i solve this prob now? [20:53] <mawst> What's the point of Xubuntu vs Ubuntu? [20:53] <UberTaco> Trek: try xpra [20:53] <schme> toastedmilk: but I have a laptop that usually connects with the wifi, and now X won't start because it said it could not find a driver that used to be there, and I want to reinstall ubuntu, so I need to backup my $HOME, so to do that I need to get it on the internet to make a copy of things, but the password is stored in gnome-keyring and I need it to tell me what the passwd is so I can dhclient. [20:53] <Some_Person> lime: VLC outputs "pvr error: Cannot open device /dev/video1 (Operation not permitted).". MythTV's backend log outputs "2010-02-18 14:17:06.705 Channel(/dev/video1)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "Operation not permitted"" [20:53] <ejv> Smashcat: yea smb is pretty much deprecated at this point, time to shift over ;) [20:54] <UberTaco> Now then, does anyone know a good way to hibernate/suspend from within openbox? [20:54] <toastedmilk> Sky35: file permissions problems? [20:54] <stdisease> Sky35, and security=share does not work as well? [20:54] <ejv> Some_Person: what happens when you run as a user with elevate privelege? [20:54] <metropolis_pt2> Some_Person: tried a sudo chmod 664 /dev/video1 [20:54] <z0mbie> is there any bitchx in the repos? [20:54] <Sky35> stdisease: toastedmilk: I then setup the shares, some as guest-access,and some as non-guest. The guest ones don't work at all. The non-guest ones sometimes pops up with a user/pw prompt and the proper user/pw doesn't work, but I did manage to get it to work using my ubuntu user/pw. [20:54] <ejv> Some_Person: s/elevate/elevated [20:54] <Sky35> stdisease: toastedmilk What kind of file permissions do I need? And I'll try =share [20:55] <jrib> !bitchx | z0mbie [20:55] <ubottu> z0mbie: bitchx (also known as ircii-pana) was dropped from Debian and subsequently Ubuntu (see: http://dy.fi/afb). Consider using irssi or weechat instead. [20:55] <Some_Person> metropolis_pt2: didn't help [20:55] <kmq> hey everyone, I have 9.10 on a laptop, where the left mousbutton, suddenly sends rightclicks instead of leftclicks [20:55] <kmq> anyone have an ide of how I can fix this ? [20:55] <toastedmilk> schme: good luck. [20:55] <stdisease> Sky35, security=share if you don't have other people on your network etc.. [20:55] <schme> toastedmilk: thanks! This is why I need to know where gnome-keyring stores this, or how to have it tell me what it is without running the X. [20:56] <galerien> kmq : what's your mouse? the pad? [20:56] <Sky35> stdisease: Other people as in people I don't want to give access? Nope, just a local-house network. [20:56] <rabbi1> "/etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." how do i solve this prob now? [20:56] <valeriia> hola [20:56] <schme> toastedmilk: or kwallet. either one is ok with me (: [20:56] <kmq> a touchpad [20:56] <toastedmilk> schme: or just delete the driver [20:56] <z0mbie> oh, wow [20:56] <valeriia> hay alguien de españa [20:56] <valeriia> ? [20:56] <toastedmilk> schme: and fix your X server :P [20:56] <z0mbie> thanks for the fast answer [20:56] <galerien> no, pero puedo hablar lo [20:56] <ejv> !espanol | valeriia [20:56] <ubottu> valeriia: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [20:56] <valeriia> aa vale [20:56] <ejv> claro ;) [20:56] <Some_Person> ejv: VLC refuses to run as root, and MythTV uses its own user (mythtv) for things [20:56] <valeriia> k aceis por aki ..?? [20:57] <schme> toastedmilk: It said it could not find i810 driver, which has been found like a hundred times before. and asked me if I wanted to run lowres mode, so I said ok do that. Then I got the graphical login prompt, clicked Lisa, entered my passwd. and it gave me the login prompt again. Over and over and over. [20:57] <ejv> Some_Person: I can't help you with that, outside my range of expertise [20:57] <kmq> galerien: I am guessing it's using the synaptics driver then? [20:57] <guntbert> ubyserver: when booting to recovery mode you get a menu - there you choose "root console with network" [20:57] <ubyserver> How do I load the network drivers from SHELL? [20:57] <Some_Person> ejv: "VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry." [20:57] <galerien> yes [20:57] <ubyserver> I'm in rescue mode [20:57] <ubyserver> No root Console with network option. [20:57] <galerien> kmq : sorry, i heard about a saitek mouse with this problem, just had to install drivers... [20:57] <stdisease> Some_Person, what is the group of the file you're not allowed to access? [20:57] <valeriia> k avurrimiento no o? [20:57] <kmq> thx anyway [20:57] <stdisease> Some_Person, add yourself to that group and re-login [20:57] <Some_Person> stdisease: How do I find that out? [20:57] <galerien> kmq : but never had problem with a touchpad [20:57] <Sky35> stdisease: hmm, I put share on, and now I get a password prompt (username locked on guest), and with on password I get an error 'More data is available' [20:58] <stdisease> Some_Person, stat /path/to/file [20:58] <galerien> ur welcome [20:58] <toastedmilk> schme: wow, that sounds pretty bad [20:58] <jfcg6> i have an external usb hard disk with ext4. when inserted it is auto mounted with (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit). i also want to have "noatime" mount option. how do i add that to "auto mount options"? [20:58] <toastedmilk> schme: hmm. i'll look into the gnome-keyring thing, hold on. [20:58] <metropolis_pt2> Some_Person: theres actually a group called "video", is your user a member of it? [20:58] <stdisease> Sky35, odd. [20:59] <Some_Person> stdisease: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379321/ [20:59] <Trek> schme: looks like somethign somewhere got messed [20:59] <Some_Person> metropolis_pt2: I don't know [20:59] <toastedmilk> schme: In the meantime, reflect on this. Would it be ironic if an old man offered alcohol to a young man, when later on the old man is accused of a murder that the young man committed? [20:59] <schme> toastedmilk: I guess. All I did was turn it off and turn it on like plenty of times before. and I was told ubuntu was easy! [20:59] <sidney_> under file in Zenwalk called systems i see a folder called boot. is there a way to save it before i install the 2nd os to restore lilo [20:59] <schme> Trek: Yes, I agree. [20:59] <toastedmilk> schme: ubuntu isn't easy on laptops :P [21:00] <wasutton3> is there a way to use dd to copy an entire dvd that has multiple partitions on it? [21:00] <metropolis_pt2> Some_Person: you chan check an change that in "Users and Groups" in the preferences menu [21:00] <stdisease> Some_Person, you need to add yourself to group 'video' [21:00] <ubyserver> does anyone know how to enable network access in Rescue Mode. I need to do a apt-get install. [21:00] <ejv> jfcg6: fdisk -l to find the dev designation and relevant partition, then 'sudo nano -w /etc/fstab' to make modifications; unmount the external device before attempting this. [21:00] <stdisease> Some_Person, either like metropolis_pt2 said or, 'sudo usermod -a -G video' [21:00] <toastedmilk> ubyserver: dhclient [21:00] <schme> toastedmilk: Crap. [21:00] <Trek> toastedmilk: i disagree, I got ubuntu 9.04 working perfectly on my comps, 2 of them are laptops [21:00] <lime> Some_Person, what is the output of getfacl /dev/video0 then? [21:00] <knumba> wasutton3: y, just use devicename [21:00] <stdisease> 'sudo usermod -a -G video <your user name>' [21:00] <ubyserver> toastedmilk: thank you good buddy [21:01] <Hakisho> Hey, is someone experienced in setting up pam_mount for sshfs (maybe with keyfile)? [21:01] <stdisease> Some_Person, and ACLs is another way to do things like lime says [21:01] <schme> Well thanks for the help. I'll go to sleep [21:01] <Some_Person> lime: /dev/video0 is the built in webcam. I want to use /dev/video1 [21:01] <toastedmilk> ubyserver: eh..yeah np [21:01] <guntbert> ubyserver: see http://imagebin.org/85384 [21:01] <lime> Some_Person, Well, its' me toying here, and i only have a webcam :) === joseph is now known as Guest58724 [21:01] <toastedmilk> Trek: yay! But a wholeeeeeeee lot of other people have problems with configuring ubuntu with laptops(granted most of them don't know what they are doing) [21:02] <ubyserver> I did not get that. I am using ubuntu LTS 8.04 [21:02] <ubyserver> Maybe that is for the 9.10 [21:02] <Trek> toastedmilk: you state the obvious :P [21:02] <rabbi1> "/etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." how do i solve this prob now? [21:02] <ejv> what do you mean 'enable network access' ? === zz_Satoru-san is now known as Satoru-san [21:02] <toastedmilk> Trek: hehe [21:02] <ubyserver> ejv: get online [21:02] <rabbi1> i am trying to --purge remove, but still its same error, how to i now complete remove this ? [21:02] <ubyserver> ejv dhclient was the answer. [21:02] <toastedmilk> schme: you sure it was gnome-keyring you were using, correct? [21:02] <Some_Person> stdisease/metropolis_pt2: Ok, I added myself to the video group. Do I need to reboot or anything? [21:03] <jrib> rabbi1: why don't you have that file? [21:03] <ejv> the rescue kernel didn't detect and load a driver for your adapter? [21:03] <stdisease> Some_Person, just logout and back in [21:03] <ejv> ah ok... cool [21:03] <guntbert> ubyserver: could be - so toastedmilk gave you the answer [21:03] <ejv> im outta here, gl everyone [21:03] <rabbi1> jrib: which file? [21:03] <ubyserver> bye bye ejv [21:03] <jrib> rabbi1: the only one in your error [21:03] <toastedmilk> guntbert: ? [21:04] <rabbi1> jrib: i have no idea, in some forum they askd me to purge remove, even after trying that i get this erro [21:04] <jrib> rabbi1: ok, well start at the beginning. Why did you want to "purge remove"? [21:04] <abou> I'm planning to buy a Sat Nav, and was wondering if anyone have recommendation for one which has Ubuntu friendly PC software kit [21:04] <toastedmilk> schme: GnomeKeyringOperationGetKeyringInfoCallback () [21:05] <Sa[i]nT> Damnnn. [21:05] <rabbi1> jrib: http://serverfault.com/questions/92429/cannot-install-mysql-using-aptitude-can-anyone-tell-me-why ... i guess this page will help u [21:05] <guntbert> toastedmilk: just acknowledging the correct answer you had for ubyserver (which I missed :-)) [21:05] <Some_Person> Ok, I logged out and logged back in. I'm still receiving the same darn error [21:06] <jrib> rabbi1: were you here the other day asking about my.cnf? [21:06] <stdisease> Some_Person, when you run 'id -Gn' do you see 'video' in them? [21:06] <Some_Person> stdisease: yes [21:06] <toastedmilk> Sky35: did you get it working yet? [21:06] <stdisease> Some_Person, in theory you should be able to access [21:07] <rabbi1> jrib: nop [21:07] <Sky35> toastedmilk: nope. Tried 'share' for the authentication method, but I just get a 'More data is available' error [21:07] <jrib> rabbi1: so did you do what the first comment says? [21:07] <Some_Person> stdisease: So why can't I? [21:07] <stdisease> Some_Person, if you have getfacl/setfacl installed try using that [21:07] <toastedmilk> Sky35: are you trying to set this up all with command-line or nautilus? [21:07] <stdisease> Some_Person, does it give the exact same erro message as before? [21:07] <Some_Person> stdisease: What should I run? [21:08] <Some_Person> stdisease: Yes, same exact message [21:08] <Sky35> toastedmilk: right now I'm using system-config-samba GUI [21:08] <rabbi1> jrib: thts what i am trying to do, but the error still persist [21:08] <toastedmilk> Sky35: meh, sorry, all i know about samba is what i learned from ubuntu kung fu..heh [21:08] <jrib> rabbi1: pastebin what you are running and the full output [21:09] <valeriia> AIIOS [21:09] <stdisease> toastedmilk, ubuntu kung fu that book with the kitteh?? [21:09] <rabbi1> jrib: how do i pastebin?? [21:09] <jrib> !paste | rabbi1 [21:09] <ubottu> rabbi1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:09] <toastedmilk> stdisease: hahaha yeah [21:10] <stdisease> Samp, for starters show us the output of 'getfacl /dev/video1' [21:10] <rabbi1> jrib: just ignore, i can find [21:10] <rabbi1> jrib: sorry [21:10] <i2c> is there a way to launch a program from command line and then close the terminal once it's launched? [21:10] <stdisease> toastedmilk, :) [21:10] <i2c> just typing "firefox" for example, will load FF, but when I close terminal FF closes along withi t [21:10] <gmachine_24> Greeting Earthlings. I have noticed a big increase in Web sites that run a fairly resource-intensive video inside the Web page when you first connect. Any way to keep these from launching? [21:10] <stdisease> i2c, that's normal [21:10] <i2c> right, I know it's normal [21:10] <Some_Person> stdisease: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379329/ [21:11] <toastedmilk> stdisease: say what you will, it's helped out with some odds and ends [21:11] <Guest56076> nohup firefox & [21:11] <i2c> but it's possible to run a program without the terminal up, (i.e. clicking on the icon) [21:11] <gmachine_24> i2c, why do you want to close the terminal [21:11] <erUSUL> i2c: nohup firefox & && exit [21:11] <toastedmilk> stdisease: :P [21:11] <i2c> let me try that [21:11] <Smashcat> gmachine_24: does it matter why? [21:11] <xjkx> my audio doesn't work :/ [21:11] <gmachine_24> Smashcat, you never know until you know. [21:11] <lime> gmachine_24, flashblock addon to firefox [21:11] <knumba> xjkx: did it before ? [21:11] <i2c> didn't work erUSUL [21:12] <Smashcat> gmachine_24: Why did you ask? [21:12] <xjkx> knumba: in other versions, sure, i'm running 9.10 [21:12] <natrixnatrix89> Is there anyone here who has been successful using iwconfig to connect to a wifi network? [21:12] <i2c> unexpcted token && [21:12] <erUSUL> i2c: firefox closed? [21:12] <gmachine_24> lime, OK. I imagine that blocks all flash content, non? [21:12] <i2c> FF opened, but terminal stayed open [21:12] <stdisease> toastedmilk, you spoiled new generation users back in the day I didn't have no cute kitteh holding my handing through terminal sessions and mile long manpages [21:12] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: I have only managed to handle WEP that way. WPA/WPA2 has always been beyond me, I have used network-manager for the job [21:12] <i2c> and FYI I'm using this for firefox, but I wasj ust using FF as an example [21:12] <knumba> xjkx: so a fresh install ? install alsamixer first to see if driver is loaded right and channels being unmuted [21:12] <rabbi1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379331/ [21:13] <lime> gmachine_24, Yes [21:13] <knumba> xjkx: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui [21:13] <lime> But they are easily played, if you still want them [21:13] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: my network is wep (now wpa) but I cant connect to it using iwconfig [21:13] <gmachine_24> lime,, ok. thank you. [21:13] <alankila> I'm not sure if WPA/WPA2 is fundamentally different, though, but all the supplementary daemons required for it suggest to me that it's more complicated. [21:13] <jrib> rabbi1: you need to purge mysql-server-5.0 [21:13] <natrixnatrix89> but nm-applet connects normally [21:13] <knumba> xjkx: then launch (alsamixergui) [21:13] <Sky35> Okay. So I added a user account called 'chayce' as an unprivileged ubuntu user. Set the password also to chayce. I then ran smbpasswd and set that password for user chayce, to 'chayce'. And made sure the list of valid users for the share had 'chayce' listed. When I try to open the share in in windows under the chayce account (which does have a password atm as chayce), I get a user/password... [21:13] <xjkx> knumba: not a fresh install, i didn't test sound until yesterday, i may have broken something up by sometimes logging as root, that was what someone told me here, i have alsamixer but not gui, will install [21:13] <Sky35> ...prompt, where typing in chayce/chayce gets a 'network name cannot be found' error. Anyone know why? [21:14] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: well, use the settings chosen by nm-applet & attempt to replicate them from command line. [21:14] <alankila> you can dump them with iwconfig, after all [21:14] <rabbi1> jrib: i used sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql [21:14] <toastedmilk> stdisease: Oh I still have to spend my fair share of time surfing man pages. The only thing the kitteh book is good for is dual-booting with windows(which i dont do), using wubi(puke), and how to do labotomy-esque tasks through gnome and nautilus interfaces [21:14] <stdisease> toastedmilk, kidding of course, all learning is the same [21:14] <jrib> rabbi1: that's not the same as what I just said [21:14] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: no success [21:14] <rabbi1> jrib: ok, hw do i do it then sir? [21:14] <stdisease> toastedmilk, heheh [21:15] <rabbi1> jrib: ok got it [21:15] <jrib> rabbi1: purge the mysql-server-5.0 package [21:15] <toastedmilk> stdisease: yes, it still rings true if you want to become a programmer, be ready for some heavily involved personal study [21:15] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: actually I think iwconfig fails to communicate with the pci card [21:15] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: okay, well, you need to debug it... firstly, to know if it associates (channel, key & ssid are ok) and then if you can use dhclient or such to configure an IP for it [21:15] <shashank> Jordan_U, Need help. [21:16] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: the access point ethernet address appears on iwconfig output when associated, and dmesg probably contains some info about making the association, so that's the first step. The next problem is getting the network layer set up, which can be just matter of running dhclient if you configure the client with dhcp [21:16] <ukko> what is the path of apache's htdocs ? [21:16] <korben> quit [21:16] <Sky35> /var/www/ usually [21:16] <alankila> ukko: /var/wwww/htdocs [21:16] <stdisease> toastedmilk, oh yes [21:16] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: what if it doesnt acssociate? [21:16] <rabbi1> jrib: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [21:16] <rabbi1> now this.... [21:17] <ukko> alankila: I was looking for it inside /etc thanks [21:17] <rabbi1> "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" [21:17] <stdisease> rabbi1, you're running another apt-get or aptitutde [21:17] <IP-v6> Can you recommend me bash scripting book or e-book any source ? [21:17] <jrib> rabbi1: that means you have some other apt process working [21:17] <rabbi1> jrib: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [21:17] <rabbi1> " [21:17] <toastedmilk> rabbil, quit spamming [21:17] <rabbi1> stdisease: apt-get [21:17] <xjkx> knumba: it worked. but i don't understand, lol. i ran alsamixergui and "uped" the levels. but alsamixer with no gui didn't work for me, i had only one option there to level up, and in gui i had like four, and i couldn't level up the only one there anyway, i mean in text mode, like broken [21:17] <toastedmilk> rabbi1: quit spamming [21:17] <jrib> IP-v6: advanced bash scripting guide at tldp.org . Check out the references at #bash [21:17] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: then something is wrong with channel, ssid, or key, or all three, or something else. I'm unfortunately not sure if just setting iwconfig parameters right suffices these days, or if some more is needed. [21:17] <shashank> alankila, I have one more question regarding my Cups-PDF [21:17] <alankila> shashank: shoot [21:17] <knumba> xjkx: things used to work, lol, have a good time [21:18] <IP-v6> another ? [21:18] <rabbi1> jrib: ok, will check and get back, some ppl think i am spamming? === knumba is now known as DasEi [21:18] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: ok. thanks. maybe the channel was wrong [21:18] <jrib> IP-v6: I just gave you the best ones, there is no other :) [21:18] <shashank> Alankila, Whenever I try to print something, using the cups-pdf-generic-printer, I think it prints; but I can't see the file. [21:18] <natrixnatrix89> ill try something [21:18] <IP-v6> jrib, i already read that : ) [21:18] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: check with iwlist scan to see the network's parameters generally first [21:18] <noodle> hi. I would like to use remote desktop over ssh, and I see several sets of instruction on the Internet about doing that using TightVNC. I was wondering if it is possible to do it using what comes with Ubuntu (is it called vino?). [21:18] <xjkx> knumba: thanks a lot [21:18] <IP-v6> jrib, thanks [21:18] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: iwlist doesnt work with this card [21:18] <shashank> alankila, I went to printing, and then to printer properties. [21:18] <jrib> IP-v6: start writing stuff then (you read all the stuff #bash recommends?) [21:18] <erUSUL> jrib: well abs is hated in #bash :) [21:19] <alankila> shashank: I am not familiar with cups-pdf-generic-printer. Where is it supposed to make a PDF, on the client or server? [21:19] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: ouch. [21:19] <rabbi1> toastedmilk: sorry sir, i am not offering any lottery here [21:19] <rabbi1> toastedmilk: u have not won any million dollar lottery [21:19] <shashank> alankila, on client. [21:19] <jrib> erUSUL: heh, didn't know that [21:19] <erUSUL> shashank: it stores the files in ~/PDF/ [21:19] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: oh. sorry. iwlist works [21:19] <wasutton3> how do i find out model number and manufacturer of a dvd drive in my computer? [21:20] <shashank> alankila, I am on it. [21:20] <erUSUL> jrib: !abs in its bot [21:20] <alankila> natrixnatrix89: also be sure to give the key with right syntax, either as a long hex code or ascii string that it hashes up to the key, or whtatever. More than that, I don't know. [21:20] <guntbert> rabbi1: please don't issue random comments in here - you make the channel less readable [21:20] <stdisease> wasutton3, dvd+rw-mediainfo [21:20] <Losha> wasutton3: try: hdparm -i /dev/sr0 [21:20] <natrixnatrix89> alankila: ok. thanks for help [21:20] <shashank> alankila, Yeah I expected that to be the case. But once again that folder is empty. [21:20] <jrib> erUSUL: maybe that's why I hate bash so much :) === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc [21:21] <wasutton3> thanks Losha [21:21] <erUSUL> jrib: :) [21:21] <shashank> alankila, In system properties, in printer state, the error is: [21:21] <shashank> alankil, P2POutputstream Write error [21:21] <alankila> shashank: well, I'd suggest trying to study any cups log files, or starting the app that does printing from terminal emulator so that you can see any STDERR it makes, could be that it writes a clue to the problem somewhere [21:21] <shashank> alankila, P2POutputstream Write error [21:21] <ubuntu> i'm on ubuntu live on a usb stick, is there an easy way to make changes persistent? [21:21] <alankila> shashank: that doesn't tell me much, but at least it recognizes a problem. [21:22] <alankila> that's something. Silent failures are an order-of-magnitude more annoying. [21:22] <shashank> shashank, Thanks, I will explore further. [21:22] <ubuntu> anyone? please? :) [21:22] <noodle> ubuntu: I believe you need to reserve some space for that while preparing the usb stick [21:22] <rabbi1> guntbert: some won't like personal IM some wont like public IM. [21:22] * Provenzano is now away, auto away after 15mins idle (log\on pager\on) [21:23] <ubuntu> okay [21:23] <ubuntu> i tried to install a graphic driver.. but it says i have to 'reboot' to enable it [21:23] <erUSUL> !away > Provenzano [21:23] <ubottu> Provenzano, please see my private message [21:23] * Provenzano is away, auto away after 15mins idle (log\on pager\on) (16secs ago) [21:23] <noodle> ubuntu: how did you make the usb stick? [21:23] <guntbert> rabbi1: just do neither - the channel is already busy enough [21:23] <Some_Person> urgh! even 'sudo cat /dev/video1' produces 'cat: /dev/video1: Operation not permitted' [21:23] <ubuntu> i used ubootin [21:24] <lime> Some_Person, You need to load some modules [21:24] <ubuntu> (not sure if i spelled that right) [21:24] <boritek_> hello, who is the artist of the Ubuntu Sax.ogg song in the Example directory ? [21:24] <stdisease> Some_Person, wow seems like a driver problem [21:24] <rabbi1> guntbert: then may b the channel is small to handle enough [21:24] <boritek_> and is there a full version of the song? it is really cool! [21:24] <ubuntu> is there a way i can load a 3rd party graphic driver into ubuntu live (reboot without rebooting?) [21:24] <daniel> hi germay [21:24] <sburwood> I have 9.10. I installed Business Accounrz; Now, it asks me for a serial number for Business Accountz [21:24] <sburwood> I don't have the serial number [21:24] <DrBlotter> who knows how to make a usb startup disc that is for win7, ive tried with usb startup creator but it only lets me do it for ubuntu os [21:25] <stdisease> sburwood, contact them and ask for a replacement serial or buy the software [21:25] <sburwood> ok [21:25] <sburwood> thx [21:25] <Jordan_U> DrBlotter, That's a question for ##windows [21:25] <noodle> ubuntu: I'm not familiar with ubootin, sorry [21:25] <DrBlotter> but im not in windows [21:25] <guntbert> rabbi1: please stop those comments! [21:25] <DrBlotter> i need to know how to put a windows image on to a flash drive in ubuntu [21:25] <DasEi> DrBlotter: unetbootin lets you [21:25] <DrBlotter> ok thanks [21:25] <abbidubbi> ciao [21:26] <Jordan_U> DrBlotter, Still, ##windows is the best place to ask, the people there also tend to run linux and so would know both sides of the issue. [21:26] <m0ar> Any reason to keep pulseaudio nowdays? [21:26] <DasEi> m0ar: multiple sound sources is one [21:26] <alankila> m0ar: inability to uninstall it is a major reason to keep it. [21:26] <noodle> I would like to use remote desktop over ssh, and I see several sets of instruction on the Internet about doing that using TightVNC. I was wondering if it is possible to do it using what comes with Ubuntu (is it called vino?). [21:27] <guntbert> noodle: no need for either if you use ssh -X ... [21:27] <boritek_> hello, who is the artist of the Ubuntu Sax.ogg song in the Example directory on the earlier Live CD ? [21:27] <boritek_> hello, who is the artist of the Ubuntu Sax.ogg song in the Example directory on the earlier Live CD ? [21:28] <guntbert> !ot | boritek_ [21:28] <ubottu> boritek_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [21:28] <noodle> guntbert: what do you mean? [21:28] <rabbi1> guntbert: so better v mind ourselves, v are here for some job, lets concentrate on that, ;) [21:28] <erUSUL> m0ar: !? PA is recent design not an old cruft still around. win/ switched to a sound server and MacOS X uses one two afaik [21:28] <stdisease> boritek_, please do not spam we heard it the firs time - look at the meta data of the file maybe it says who's the artist [21:28] <m0ar> erUSUL: I've always purged it to hell and used alsa, but you're saying it's worth a try? :) [21:29] <erUSUL> m0ar: works for me (tm) not that i ask much of it [21:29] <stdisease> m0ar, if you successfully purged and have a working alsa and you're are happy it is not worth it by any shot imho [21:29] <abbidubbi> !list [21:29] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [21:29] <guntbert> noodle: if you ssh -X ... into a remote host you can start graphical apps there but have the display/mouse/keyboard on your local system [21:29] <m0ar> stdisease: no, I have pulse now. I'll try it :D [21:29] <boritek__> stdisease: sorry my net is quite slow, lags, i didnt see first that i went trough. I looked at the metadata no info in it [21:30] <boritek__> *my text went through [21:30] <abbidubbi> join [21:32] <rabbi1> guntbert: linux users are increasing :) [21:32] <noodle> guntbert: well actually I already need to use ssh -X to get the remote desktop application in Ubuntu to work. I mean, I have to connect to the server via ssh -X, start sharing and then use the local client to connect. Does that mean the data is automatically going through ssh? === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam\ === nikolam\ is now known as nikolam [21:33] <m0ar> How do I install .rpm files on ubuntu? [21:34] <rww> ubottu: rpm | m0ar [21:34] <ubottu> m0ar: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) [21:34] <Sa[i]nT> alien [21:34] <dgd> m0ar: you have to convert them to DEB packages first [21:34] <m0ar> Ah [21:34] <xangua> m0ar: what do you want to install¿ :S [21:35] <m0ar> Nvm, found as .deb [21:35] <gdb> m0ar: I think the first question that needs to be answered is, "is this software already packaged in deb format somewhere?" -- and it sounds like you answered it. ;)-) [21:35] <gdb> er ;-) [21:35] <guntbert> noodle: start sharing? I do not understand - what I wanted to show you is: you ssh -X into the remote host, start a grapical app there (like xeyes&) and get the display/mouse input on your local machine [21:35] <rabbi1> jrib: s, i have purge removed the complete package, and also cleaned apt-get, how do i delete from botched install ? [21:37] <noodle> guntbert: I have to do something like export DISPLAY=:0.0 [21:37] <guntbert> noodle: not with ssh -X - the DISPLAY should be set automagically :) [21:38] <ubyserver> all that installation issue and I forgot my friggin login user/pass. [21:38] <ubyserver> GG [21:38] <ubyserver> i'm alright and i'm in [21:38] <ubyserver> woohoo [21:39] <noodle> guntbert: oh. Do you have any links by any chance to some guide or something? === d3xter is now known as eliteSchaf [21:39] <m0ar> Meh, my gnome-panel just died and won't restart itself. Howto? [21:40] <Yizi> I have install LAMP and i want to be able to edit var/www without the root access can anyone help [21:40] <stdisease> m0ar, Alt-F2 gnome-panel ? [21:40] <xangua> stdisease: it doesn't work if there is no panel :S [21:40] <rabbi1> Yizi: use sudo [21:40] <kmq> so my touchpadbuttons (left and right) both send middle click events [21:40] <m0ar> stdisease: ALT+F2 works good without gnome [21:40] <kmq> anyone have an ide on how to fix? [21:40] <m0ar> stdisease: Not really :3 [21:41] <guntbert> noodle: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html but you can google yourself (I used: ssh x) [21:41] <Yizi> rabbil: its just too much hassle as im doing some proper php coding [21:41] <rabbi1> Yizi: u atleast started, i am still installing LAMP :) [21:41] <m0ar> How to start gnome-panel when it has died? [21:42] <noodle> guntbert: thanks, I'll check it out. I'm asking because I've been searching about this for some time already. All I usually find has to do with TightVNC [21:42] <stdisease> m0ar, hmm on kde it worked - do you have any file browsing icons on desktop? click them then find gnome-panel binary and run it [21:42] <stdisease> *it works [21:42] <Yizi> rabbil: yeah i know well its so annoting to sudo everything, extra security i dont need for that file since its a in house development [21:42] <guntbert> noodle: thats why I told you my search string - have fun and Good luck :-) [21:42] <m0ar> stdisease: Desktop is off :) [21:42] <noodle> thanks [21:42] <nyqvist> Good evening. [21:43] <Tresmius> I've been getting a lot of port scans and DOS's appearing in my router log since I've been frequenting IRC [21:43] <Tresmius> is there any way I can mask my IP? [21:43] <GreenItalics> Tor? [21:43] <erUSUL> Tresmius: #freenode [21:43] <Tresmius> probably not related to ubuntu but this is the only channel I've been using :P [21:43] <Tresmius> ok [21:43] <noodle> Yizi: is it so you can edit your web files without root access? If that's the case, you could move the directory in your home directory. That's what I'm doing [21:43] <guntbert> Tresmius: ask in #freenode for a cloak [21:43] <stdisease> m0ar, ok, from Ctrl-Alt-F* console , run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-panel & or xterm and launch from it - or whatever , improvise [21:44] <Yizi> noodle: can you help me do that, i would appreciate it [21:44] <GreenItalics> Hey has anyone heard about the School in PA that had those laptops spying on their students? [21:44] <metropolis_pt2> yep^^ [21:44] <GreenItalics> I go there [21:44] <guntbert> !ot | GreenItalics [21:44] <ubottu> GreenItalics: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [21:45] <noodle> Yizi: I can tell you what I remember, but I'm a newbie, so I cannot promise it will work for you [21:45] <GreenItalics> I was wondering if you could help me get ubuntu on a flash drive so I can boot it on my laptop? [21:46] <noodle> Yizi: first, make the directory in your home folder and give it -r and -x priviledges for everyone. Are you alright doing that? [21:46] <erUSUL> GreenItalics: use unetbootin [21:46] <guntbert> GreenItalics: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [21:46] <erUSUL> GreenItalics: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ === jon is now known as Guest37269 [21:47] <marlen> hello [21:47] <mint> GreenItalics: what size flash drive do you have available? I'm just curious because that will determine what distro you want to start with. :) and unetbootin is wonderful. 8 gig stick works rather well in my experience. [21:48] <marlen> how can I unistall an aplication on xubuntu? please help me, I'm getting mad... [21:48] <mOOey> I've got a 4 gig usb that works well too [21:48] <Yizi> noodle: yes i have done that, called it www [21:48] <metropolis_pt2> mint: I have a raid0 setup on 2 8Gig USB sticks, this is real fun :D [21:49] <marlen> I mean, from the terminal... [21:49] <marlen> can you help me please? [21:49] <noodle> Yizi: hold on a sec [21:49] <mint> metropolis_pt2: I forgot to change my nick, I have mint installed on my usb ;) It is ubuntu... just less brown lol :D [21:49] <stdisease> marlen, sudo apt-get remove <package> [21:49] <guntbert> marlen: sudo aptitude remove <package> === natureshadow1 is now known as natureshadow [21:50] <Lord-Readman> any brainstorm moderators here? [21:50] <GreenItalics> Mint and mOOey, I've got a 4 GB I think I'll try Unetbootin, but I have a mac and the site only has downloads for PC or Linux... [21:50] <mOOey> mint/metro - I've got one usb with kubuntu and one with suse ;-) [21:50] <m0ar> What flashplugin to use? [21:50] <m0ar> for firefox [21:51] <mOOey> GreenItalics - you can install directly to the usb IF YOU ARE CAREFUL (IE: take it out of the computer-careful) of which drive you're installing it to [21:51] <DasEi> GreenItalics: what are you trying ? [21:51] <mOOey> no need for those special programs [21:52] <mint> GreenItalics: They were apple laptops at your school that they handed out? Crazy that we have someone affected by that news story here. :) [21:52] <GreenItalics> DasEi, I'm trying to get a portable Ubuntu on a flash drive for my school laptop [21:52] <moreia> Looking for insights on git-gui. It's installed, but not in my path. Feel like I'm missing something. [21:53] <mOOey> school laptop = mac or pc GreenItalics? [21:53] <metropolis_pt2> GreenItalics: I would suggest the following (may sound a bit strange): Download VirtualBox for mac, download the Ubuntu 9.10 desktop iso, create a VM and boot from the iso, forward the USB stick to the virtual machine and launch the usb-creator [21:53] <GreenItalics> mint, yeah they're macbooks [21:53] <stdisease> GreenItalics, can't you disable the spy features on the laptop [21:53] <Lord-Readman> any brainstorm moderators here? [21:53] <GreenItalics> stdisease, I know but if I'm booting Ubuntu it shouldn't even touch the HD [21:53] <noodle> Yizi: do you have a standard installation of apache etc? [21:53] <mint> I would suggest that GreenItalics simply boot from a live cd, then follow the instructions for linux onto a thumbstick. [21:54] <DasEi> GreenItalics: being an apple with macOS running, ic , well can try to put away the internal hd an directly install to the stick; at 4gb I'd suggest use the minimal installer, so space lasts [21:54] <mOOey> mint: yes - that's what I would do too [21:54] <Yizi> noodle: yes i do [21:55] <GreenItalics> alright, so at home I'll get ubuntu and use that to simply use it to download onto my flash drive? [21:55] <ni1s> crap, anyone know a lucid iso where the installer works? [21:55] <seanbrystone> whats the cli command to restart the computer? [21:55] <stdisease> ni1s, works for me, try #ubuntu+1 [21:55] <ni1s> seanbrystone, sudo reboot [21:56] <ni1s> stdisease, ah! thanks [21:56] <DasEi> GreenItalics: no, get the minimal installer, boot that cd, and install with usb being only disc present (need network for that), see: [21:56] <DasEi> !minimal [21:56] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [21:56] <seanbrystone> ty [21:57] <puff> Hey, I'm using empathy, is there any way to increase the font size? [21:57] <marlen> stdisease, I've tried (apt-get remove seamonkey), nothing? what is the problem, please? [21:58] <stdisease> marlen, you're running that from a terminal window, right? [21:58] <marlen> yes [21:58] <stdisease> marlen, what does it say when you run that? [21:58] <LMJ> i'm trying to do some mailing wit OO 3.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I can't like my odt to my .ods file because OO crash or "exchange database" function can't recognize my datas, any clues? [21:58] <marlen> you can't because you have to be root (sorry for my english) [21:58] <GreenItalics> Ok, thanks for the link DasEi, I'll check that out. [21:59] <DasEi> GreenItalics: I assume you got inet home, too ?! [21:59] <vetti> Hi I have Ubuntu 9.04 and I saw I/O errors on my disk, i want to run fsck to fix these errors. I did sudo touch /forcefsck and this does not run fsck, what should I do? :( [21:59] <DasEi> vetti: boot a live cd, do it manually from there [22:00] <GreenItalics> DasEi, to be honest this will be my first step into Ubuntu - at home I have a macbook pro OS X === Kubas89 is now known as twardy [22:00] <vetti> oh, is there any other simple way? [22:00] <DasEi> GreenItalics:but a working ninet-connection ? [22:00] <DasEi> inet* [22:00] <scivi> marlen sudo apt-get remove seamonkey === twardy is now known as Kubas89 [22:00] <stdisease> vetti, probably not [22:00] <ticko> how do i set a static ip for my wifi connection? [22:00] <marlen> ok, i'll try [22:00] <stdisease> ticko, edit /etc/network/interfaces [22:01] <piero> What is the differences in the background between Ubuntu and NetBook Remix (kernel, packages, etc..) [22:01] <ticko> stdisease: ty [22:01] <stdisease> ticko, see 'man 5 interfaces' for the format or look at examples [22:01] <vetti> oh ok, so let me understand this, i boot with live CD, then run fsck in command prompt right? [22:01] <wrightrocket> ticko, right click Network Manager and Edit Connections. That way it is specific to a ESSID [22:01] <GreenItalics> DasEi: yeah I'm connected to the internet [22:01] <vetti> or do I have somethign special like forcing live cd to mount my drive as read only or something lk that? [22:02] <ticko> wrightrocket: i tried that but i dunno all the specific to i set it to dhcp with address only? or completely manual? [22:02] <vetti> i eman not mounting my drive as read only [22:02] <ticko> wrightrocket: i have a router [22:02] <DasEi> vetti: there is for sure, man tunefs could tell more, but from my my experience still have to reboot twice least, and readonly is still mounted, is why a prefer a real unmiounted disk [22:03] <wrightrocket> ticko: manual only. if you run nm-tool in a terminal it should tell you all you need [22:03] <vetti> perfect, I agree I have to restart twice.. [22:03] <DasEi> GreenItalics: try so then, can you physically remove the internal (ubuntu will installit's own bootloader on the first hd by default, would kill your mac OS) [22:03] <vetti> thanks a lot @ DasEi [22:03] <ticko> wrightrocket: ty very much [22:03] <pfifo> Dose the default panel have everything I need to write a python panel applet (9.10) or should I skip right to C [22:04] <wrightrocket> ticko: np, good luck! [22:04] <tdskate> hello [22:05] <tdskate> i'm having a small problem [22:05] <tdskate> Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-jaunty [22:05] <tdskate> how can that be fixed? [22:05] <jolaren> Why wont aMSN let me record webcam? [22:05] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:05] <tdskate> tried to run this line: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-jaunty [22:06] <marlen> n [22:06] <GreenItalics> DasEi: hmmm I'm quiet attached to my Mac, anyone else made the jump from Windows to OS X to Ubuntu? [22:06] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:07] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:07] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:07] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:07] <FloodBot1> nobimint: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:07] <tdskate> anyone ? [22:08] <tdskate> Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-jaunty ... [22:08] <ticko> wrightrocket: hey i added into manual transmission works and irssi works but firefox wont load webpages [22:08] <Lex_Sh> tdskate: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main to your sources.list [22:08] <wrightrocket> check /etc/resolv.conf for the nameserver [22:09] <moreia> Anyone with experience with git-gui? (or a better gui for git) [22:09] <ticko> wrightrocket: its empty it says # Generated by Network Manager [22:09] <DasEi> tdskate: backports repos enabled ? [22:09] <blakkheim> moreia: why do you need a gui for git [22:09] <andrzej> witam jest morze ktoś tu z polski?? [22:10] <blakkheim> !pl [22:10] <ubottu> Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. [22:10] <carbm1> Anybody know how to keep Flash from using so much CPU? Seems every website I go to with Flash jumps my CPU to 100%... it does this on all my laptops and desktops. [22:10] <blakkheim> carbm1: flash is proprietary and isn't very optimized for linux so there is nothing you can do except get better hardware [22:10] <Lex_Sh> carbm1: use flashblock plugin for your browser [22:10] <wrightrocket> check the connection settings for the DNS servers. You should have something there, if only 4.2.2.2 [22:11] <ticko> wrightrocket: oh ok i had nothing there === chadou is now known as naley [22:11] <puff> carbm1: I install flashblock. [22:11] <tdskate> DasEi: how do i enable backports repos ? [22:11] <johnny_> dunno [22:12] <puff> carbm1: Ever since I ran into a page that had a flash banner add that thrashed firefox. Youll be amazed at how much gratuitous flash there is. [22:12] <DasEi> tdskate: gksudo gedit /etc/at/sources.list, there... [22:12] <carbm1> puff: I know, its everywhere. I just want it to work correctly.... [22:12] <Sensiva> tdskate in System --> administration --> software sources , check the backports repository box [22:12] <puff> carbm1: Flashblock makes it work correctly :-). [22:12] <marlen> nothing friends [22:13] <DasEi> tdskate:find the 2 lines saying backports, remove the '#' in front of line, save file,close gedit, run : sudo apt-get update [22:13] <puff> carbm1: Then it replaces all flash apps with little icons and only runs them if you click on them. [22:13] <seanbrystone> is bg frozen? [22:13] <johnny_> is there anything like peerblock for lnx? [22:13] <carbm1> puff, flashblock you say. addons.mozilla.com [22:13] <seanbrystone> oops wrong chat [22:14] <carbm1> I'm on it... [22:14] <puff> carbm1: Yup. [22:14] <DasEi> johnny_: y, not in the repos, but ipblock [22:14] <johnny_> thx [22:14] <blakkheim> johnny_: for torrents, if you use transmission there is a built-in "blacklist" feature [22:15] <tdskate> DasEi: sources.list is an empty file ... [22:15] <zeddy> killahop [22:15] <johnny_> ok il try ipblock [22:15] <carbm1> puff, Thanks... Its not exactly what I want but I'll take it. [22:15] <DasEi> tdskate: sure not, /etc/apt/sources.list [22:16] <tdskate> Sensiva: there's no backports rep box anywhere in any of the Software Sources thing [22:16] <Sensiva> tdskate in Updates tab [22:16] <Sensiva> tdskate check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu [22:16] <hmw> Installed Ubuntu, then Windows XP. Added Grub again with live CD, added Windows entry in menu.lst. I also disabled the "hiddenmenu" entry. My problem: There is no boot menu VISIBLE (but can be used blindly) - how do I get the image back? Does it have to do with having Linux installed on an empty drive, before installing win? [22:17] <Jordan_U> hmw, What version of Ubuntu? [22:17] <tdskate> DasEi: oh, your first message said: /etc/at/sour..., shoulda been /etc/apt/... [22:17] <hmw> Jordan_U: 9.04 [22:17] <DasEi> tdskate: sry for typo then [22:18] <metropolis_pt2> hmw: i would suggest installing the package "startupmanager", there you can configure all the grub stuff nicely and it autodetects and adds your WinXP installation [22:18] <hmw> metropolis_pt2: my windows can boot already, but the menu is not displayed (totally blank screen) [22:18] <bove> is it possible to relay all connections on a specific port to another computer? I want to relay all connections on port 25 to the ISP's smtp server [22:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> hmw, for future reference windows then ubuntu for a simple deal. Are you sure you installed grub correctly? to the right hard drive and then in the right place? [22:18] <Jordan_U> hmw, Any reason you aren't using 9.10? grub2 in 9.10 is a complete rewrite and so probably doesn't have this problem. [22:19] <tdskate> Dasei: i saved that file, do i need to do anything else ? [22:19] <tdskate> cause it still couldn't find the package [22:19] <DasEi> tdskate:find the 2 lines saying backports, remove the '#' in front of line, save file,close gedit, run : sudo apt-get update [22:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> Jordan_U, 9.10 isn't a complete rewrite, it has a massive changelog though. [22:19] <hmw> Jordan_U: 9.10 was missing some minor details, i just don't like it. [22:19] <tdskate> DasEi: ok, thanks! (sorry for being so noob-y) [22:19] <Jordan_U> SpaceGhostC2C, I meant that grub2 is a complete rewrite from grub legacy [22:19] <DasEi> tdskate: np [22:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> Jordan_U, than you would be correct. [22:20] <tdskate> DasEi: still no package found :( [22:20] <tdskate> weirrd [22:20] <DasEi> tdskate: paketname you try ? [22:20] <metropolis_pt2> by the way, "minor details".. has anyone seen the new nautilus tabs at _bottom_ in lucid? in my opinion they just absolutely suck, and you can't even change it [22:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, what are you trying to do? [22:20] <ubuntu__> cześć === ubuntu is now known as tomygimp [22:21] <tdskate> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty === max is now known as Guest18740 [22:21] <tdskate> i'm running karmic [22:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> metropolis_pt2, there are quite a few custom branches of nautilus you could look at. It requires some google-fu. A hint is, simple-nautilus [22:22] <Tresmius> Every time I leave my computer for a while (afk, with firefox on) ubuntu doesn't really work when I get back. Most programs become unresponsive and upon boot (grub2) I have to boot on recovery and update grub for it to boot onto ubuntu normally, otherwise I get a kernel panic error message. [22:22] <DasEi> tdskate: heh, you're funny karmic<>jaunty, k server or generic edition ? [22:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> Do the hard drives spin down and then you don't let them spin back up? [22:22] <tdskate> generic [22:22] <hmw> The audio mixer is strange in 9.10 also, i can only change main volume and recording volume, nothing more than those two... i missed the WAVE/Line In/Microphone etc differentiation... i was like "WTF??" [22:22] <tdskate> DasEi: generic [22:23] <Tresmius> Hmm space, I don't know if they spin down at all [22:23] <DasEi> tdskate: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic-generic [22:23] <metropolis_pt2> SpaveGhostC2C: yes, thats the good thing about open source, but it was fine and now its just horrible.. at least I am not the only one who thinks it sucks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/509079 [22:23] <wasutton3> is there a way to make a raw copy of a dvd with multiple partitions, like from start to finish? [22:23] <DasEi> wasutton3: still dd [22:24] <wasutton3> DasEi, still doesnt work [22:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> metropolis_pt2, do you need help with anything? If you're just pointing something out, we'd love to hear it in #ubuntu-offtopic [22:24] <tdskate> DasEi: thanks! (i got the first command from this topic with the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240063 ) [22:24] <Jordan_U> wasutton3, In what way doesn't it work? [22:24] <wasutton3> Jordan_U, it only copies the first partition [22:25] <DasEi> wasutton3: like dd if=dev/sr0 of=Name.img [22:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> wasutton3, you need the /dev/whatever of the disc. Do you have that? [22:25] <wasutton3> DasEi, yep that doesnt work [22:25] <wasutton3> SpaceGhostC2C: [22:25] <wrightrocket> tdskate: stupid question, did you run apt-get update? [22:25] <DasEi> wasutton3: prefix with sudo case permission prob or save to desk [22:25] <wasutton3> SpaceGhostC2C: yep [22:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> wasutton3, if it's /dev/sr0, the command would be dd if=/dev/sr0 of=Disc.img [22:25] <Jordan_U> wasutton3, Then you are using dd ( or writing the image ) incorrectly, if you select the whole device instead of the partition dd just goes block by block, it doesn't know or care about partitions. [22:25] <wasutton3> DasEi: yep tried that [22:26] <Lord-Readman> any brainstorm moderators here? [22:26] <Jordan_U> wasutton3, How did you then burn that image? [22:26] <tdskate> wrightrocket: yep [22:26] <DasEi> wasutton3: mount to get the devicename [22:26] <tdskate> wrightrocket: but it's ok, i was trying to use jaunty apt thingie, i needed karmic [22:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> Lord-Readman, you should ask your question. [22:26] <wasutton3> Jordan_U: the exact command was "sudo dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/will/Desktop/test.iso" [22:27] <Lord-Readman> that was my question? are you a moderator SpaceGhostC2C ? [22:27] <DasEi> wasutton3: mount to get the correct devicename [22:27] <wasutton3> and before you all ask, i tried /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw /dev/dvdrw /dev/scd0 /dev/sr0 etc [22:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> Lord-Readman, this is a support thread. Do you have a question pertaining to support? [22:27] <Wispring> I need help getting TwinView working properly. Is anyone available to help me out? [22:28] <DasEi> wasutton3: open the cd (places..) , then enter mount in trml to see coreect identifier [22:28] <Tresmius> How would I completely reinstall gnome2? [22:28] <Jordan_U> wasutton3, Can you pastebin the output from "mount" with all partitions on the CD mounted? [22:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, did you install your drivers yet? [22:28] <Lord-Readman> I was looking for an ubuntu brainstorm moderator to approve an idea [22:28] <Tresmius> Err, How would I completely reinstall grub2?* [22:28] <wasutton3> Jordan_U: it doesnt mount the other partitions [22:28] <wasutton3> Jordan_U: idk why, it just doesnt see them [22:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> Lord-Readman, just wait. You won't find what you're looking for here. Patience, friend. [22:28] <rww> Lord-Readman: #ubuntu-brainstorm [22:28] <Wispring> I used the System/Hardware Drivers to install Drivers [22:28] <DasEi> Tresmius: sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm && sudo apt-get install gdm, do that from out of x [22:28] <Jordan_U> Tresmius, What problem are you having specifically? [22:29] <Lord-Readman> Well if there are any moderators here, could you please look at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23732/ [22:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> Lord-Readman, go to #ubuntu-brainstorm [22:30] <Jordan_U> wasutton3, Does this DVD work with all partitions in another OS? How can you tell that only the first partition is being copied with dd? [22:30] <zvacet> Tresmius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [22:30] <Lord-Readman> everyone is away [22:30] <Wispring> SpaceGhost I used the System/Hardware Drivers function to install the Drivers [22:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> Lord-Readman, this isn't the place to ask. You need patience. [22:30] <Tresmius> I get kernel panics a lot [22:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, what drivers did you get? [22:30] <wasutton3> Jordan_U: it works in my friends computer, and it only copies 5.6mb, which is the size of the first partition [22:30] <Tresmius> but updating grub2 in a recovery boot fixes the problem temporarily, allowing me to boot normally without kernel panic [22:31] <Wispring> The newest Nvidia drivers [22:31] <trav> Why would cp zero both source and destination files? [22:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, try pressing alt+F2 [22:31] <trav> It only happens between two specific directories [22:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Then teype gksudo nvidia-settings [22:31] <trav> I have plenty of disk space. [22:31] <Tresmius> Bah, the terminal isn't even opening [22:32] <Tresmius> and firefox has crashed a lot in the past 30 minutes [22:32] <trav> I think it just lost me a week+ of work. I thought copy was supposed to be safe? [22:32] <Wispring> ok got a run application dialog [22:32] <Jordan_U> Tresmius, Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg when it it is booting correctly, and again when it is not? [22:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> Tresmius, you can open the terminal in lots of ways, which is failing you? [22:32] <nobimint> anyone know the code for sox so that it can convert .raw files to .wav file [22:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, then put in your password. [22:32] <DasEi> Tresmius: ctr-alt-F1 (logs you off, too) === coldblood_ is now known as telly [22:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> DasEi, does not. [22:33] <peter_> hello [22:33] <Scombr0> How can I check if I installed PHP5 with sockets and pcntl? [22:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> DasEi, it brings you to a TTy. Just press CTRL+alt+F7 to come back. [22:33] <Wispring> alt f2 give me an application run dialog box..no thing there to put password in [22:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | peter_ [22:33] <ubottu> peter_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [22:33] <peter_> why bluetooth doesnt work in ubuntu.10 [22:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, I said to put gksudo nvidia-settings [22:33] <e01> is it possible to adjust subtitle position on karmic`s totem? [22:33] <peter_> i try almost everything but i cant get it work... [22:33] <DasEi> SpaceGhostC2C: y, and logs you of x, gives a new tty to login [22:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> DasEi, it does not log you out of anything. [22:34] <peter_> i can pair pc with bluetooth but i cant trasnfer files or use mobile for dialup,help please [22:34] <nyqvist> DasEI, n1 helper :))) Hello hello :) [22:34] <theface> peter_, i have 9.10 with bluetooth [22:34] <peter_> jes [22:34] <silence_> I have the ATI watermark and i found a script to disable it but I don't know how to run it [22:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> DasEi, it switches you to a virtual terminal. You can get back with pressing CTRL+ALT+F7 [22:34] <DasEi> nyqvist: ah, mr ati [22:34] <peter_> yes* [22:35] <peter_> does it work? [22:35] <nyqvist> DasEI, yep :)) I'll get to it at my weekend :)) [22:35] <Wispring> Says I do not appear to have the drivers...this is what has been confusing me have run this app alot in the past 2 days [22:35] <theface> peter_, yes, i connect the Wiimote to the netbook by bt. [22:35] <peter_> PM [22:35] <vright> I have GRUB on a USB Flash drive, I believe it's written to the MBR (not sure), is it possible to edit the configuration once I've booted into linux? [22:36] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C, I have run this alot in the past 2 days.says I don't have the drivers [22:36] <DasEi> vright: yes, grub1 or 2? what to edit ? [22:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, have you restarted since installing the drivers?> [22:36] <Wispring> alot [22:36] <silence_> I have the ATI watermark and I found a script to remove it but I don't know how to script. [22:37] <vright> DasEi: sorry I do not know what you mean [22:37] <silence_> how do I run a script? [22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, then I want you to remove the current nvidia drivers. Press Alt+F2 and type, gksudo jockey-gtk [22:38] <DasEi> vright:you want to edit grub.. what do you want to change there ? which grub-version are you running ? [22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> silence_, what sort of script? [22:38] <DasEi> silence_:bash ? [22:38] <silence_> I'm trying to remove ATI [22:38] <vright> 0.97 [22:38] <indy_> hi [22:38] <Gary_B> hi, can anyone hear me? [22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> silence_, what sort of script is it? [22:38] <DasEi> vright: grub 1 so [22:38] <silence_> I have no idea [22:38] <vright> DasEi:it's configured for an older kernel, just want to change it permanently so I dont have to type it in everytime [22:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> Gary_B, yes, do you have a question? [22:39] <DasEi> !hi | Gary_B [22:39] <ubottu> Gary_B: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [22:39] <indy_> how do i connect to Linux shared drives using multiple user accounts? [22:39] <Gary_B> sorry new to irc, trying to get to smalltalk seaside forum [22:39] <io_> hi!is enione of romania? [22:39] <silence_> how do i find out what kind of script it is? [22:39] <DasEi> vright: it's done in /boot/grub/menu.lst [22:39] <purpzey> silence_: Where did you get the script? [22:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Gary_B, do you know what server it is on? [22:39] <Gary_B> at least i know irc works [22:39] <lunks> How to remove all gedit tmp files from a directory structure? [22:39] <DasEi> silence_: open it editor, first line saying ? [22:39] <vright> i have no such file [22:39] <Gary_B> #seaside [22:39] <vright> DasEi: perhaps grub.cfg? [22:40] <Gary_B> feeenode [22:40] <silence_> I got it online somewhere, I don't have the link anymore [22:40] <DasEi> vright: are you in the sys now you're talking off ? [22:40] <tdskate> here i am again [22:40] <vright> DasEi: brb [22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> lunks, do you have any sort of special character? Like ~ ? [22:40] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C, ok, now the Hardware drivers dialog comes up that I used to install the drivers in the first place [22:40] <DasEi> vright: grub.cfg is grub2 [22:40] <lunks> SpaceGhostC2C, got it, find . -name '*~' -exec rm {} \; [22:40] <adamb_> so im just gonna have to migrate my desktop to osx or windows, firefox/chrome crash repeatedly on 3 different machines [22:41] <adamb_> ill leave a virtualbox of ubuntu up, cause i need linux goodies and such [22:41] <indy_> hello [22:41] <VCoolio> vright: don't edit grub.cfg, edit /etc/default/grub then do sudo update-grub [22:41] <fleixius> Why would it take a while to receive an IP from my dhcpd server? [22:42] <DasEi> fleixius: what's a while ? [22:42] <silence_> I need to know how to take text of a script and run it [22:42] <fleixius> DasEi, It'll go through 5-7 attempts, or even timing out. [22:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, now remove the current drivers and go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us and get the drivers you need. [22:42] <tdskate> Weird thing going on with GRUB: check out this screenshot: [22:42] <silence_> does anyone know how? [22:42] <adac> #rubyonrails [22:42] <tdskate> http://i48.tinypic.com/vqp75c.jpg [22:42] <purpzey> silence_: What does the first line of the script say? [22:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, I'll help you after you've got those drivers. [22:42] <vright> DasEi: let me explain fully, I tried to install ubuntu on the flash drive, it went through and put grub on there, but of course it won't boot but I had an installation on my hard drive, so I run grub off the flash drive [22:43] <silence_> first line says #!/usr/bin/perl [22:43] <DasEi> fleixius: normal behavoiur is dhclients triggers server, they got to meet on a port, ip gets assigned, subnets set right ?broadcast ? [22:43] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C thought I could use the nvidia-glx-new ones [22:43] <scivi> tdskate what is odd about that [22:44] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C these aren't going to work then? [22:44] <Scombr0> I have a question. [22:44] <jordo2323> I am trying to copy a large video file to an external USB drive and it keeps failing three quarters of the way through with an input/output error. Any ideas? [22:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, you will be. But it'll be the ones from nvidia. I've had problems with the silly repo ones. [22:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ask | Scombr0 [22:44] <Scombr0> How can I install PHP5 but with parameters? [22:44] <ubottu> Scombr0: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [22:44] <Wispring> OK [22:44] <DasEi> vright: why wouldn't it boot ? [22:44] <tdskate> scivi: well i was asked if i wanted to update to grub2 [22:44] <Scombr0> I was writing it =P [22:44] <tdskate> svivi: but it hasn't done it [22:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, then just write the question. Not the introduction. [22:44] <fleixius> DasEi, DHCP doesnt trigger the server. It broadcasts for an available server on the network over a specific port. [22:44] <vright> DasEi: no idea, something about didn't sit right [22:44] <Scombr0> I like being polite SpaceGhostC2C, you should try the same. [22:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, do you want to install php5 manually, or with the deb? [22:45] <DasEi> jordo2323: enough space ? format the stick before ? use rsync ? [22:45] <tdskate> svivi: and it looks like it added a second linux installation? [22:45] <fleixius> DasEi, I can see the broadcasts being sent. But nothing is being sent out from my DHCP server. [22:45] <scivi> yea that is odd then [22:45] <vright> DasEi: nevermind I can easily edit it, it turns out [22:45] <VCoolio> silence_: then do "perl /path/to/script" [22:45] <Dannyboy> \o [22:45] <scivi> sorry no clue [22:45] <Scombr0> I actually installed php5 with apt [22:45] <vright> DasEi: thanks for your help [22:45] <Scombr0> But I need to install it with parameters. [22:45] <Scombr0> ./configure --enable-sockets --enable-pcntl --with-mysql [22:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> !Guidelines | Scombr0 [22:45] <ubottu> Scombr0: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [22:45] <Scombr0> I need those params. [22:45] <jordo2323> DasEi: There is enough space.....the disk was formatted to fat32 and I can't lose the data now.... [22:45] <wrightrocket> jordo2323: what type of filesystem is on the external? Does it support that large of a file? [22:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, what happens, does something go wrong? [22:45] <jordo2323> wrightrocket: vfat (fat32) [22:45] <edqnag> hi i need help installing .bin file, thank you [22:46] <lime> Scombr0, You would have to recompile it yourself to add additional flags [22:46] <silence_> then what? [22:46] <jordo2323> wrightrocket: It has a bunch of similar files that copied.... [22:46] <Scombr0> Nothing going wrong SpaceGhostC2C, but a program needs it. [22:46] <lime> Scombr0, But php on ubuntu is compiled with almost everything [22:46] <silence_> perl /path/to/scrip and then what? [22:46] <Dannyboy> \o [22:46] <Scombr0> limi, where can I check if all those options are installed? [22:46] <DasEi> jordo2323: you mean delete the fractal you got on ? that's easy [22:46] <jordo2323> DasEi: ? [22:46] <lime> Scombr0, If itæs not in the php5 package, they are in some other php-[something] [22:46] <VCoolio> silence_: replace /path/to/script with the path to the script, e.g. ~/Desktop/script if it's on your desktop, then it runs [22:46] <Dannyboy> \o [22:47] <lime> Scombr0, Check the docs installed with php === jon is now known as Guest13606 [22:47] <DasEi> jordo2323: where is it mounted ? (mount in trml tells you) [22:47] <wrightrocket> jordo2323: if the file is over 4GiB then it is too big [22:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, if you're asking the question, are you having any problems compiling php5? [22:47] <Scombr0> No SpaceGhostC2C, no problems at all. [22:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, so compile it and install it. [22:48] <silence_> thank you! [22:48] <jordo2323> wrightrocket: why? It let me for several tens of files before that [22:48] <DasEi> jordo2323: also mind wright~ , if large-file isn't enabled, at 4 gig it's end of fat32 [22:48] <lime> Scombr0, if you need to check for what capabilities are enabled by php installation, do a phpinfo(); in your phpfile [22:48] <Scombr0> Already did. [22:48] <Scombr0> I can see the socket support is enabled. [22:48] <jordo2323> DasEi: I have many files over 4GB on the drive... [22:48] <Scombr0> But nothing about 'pcntl'. [22:49] <DasEi> jordo2323: did you use gparted to format it ? [22:49] <jordo2323> DasEi: Not sure....can't remember [22:49] <lime> Scombr0, Hmm, let me check what pcntl does [22:49] <edqnag> hi i need help installing .bin file, thank you [22:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, can't you just use it as a module? [22:49] <DasEi> jordo2323: if there are other file largefile obviously is enabled, so where is it mounted ? [22:49] <Scombr0> lime, tbh I have no idea what 'pcntl' is, but I need it in order to make this run properly. [22:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> edqnag, chmod +x filename.bin [22:50] <jordo2323> DasEi: /dev/sdc1 on /media/<Drive Name> [22:50] <lime> Scombr0, You will need to recompile PHP with process control support [22:50] <Scombr0> lime, i used the apt to get PHP5. [22:50] <DasEi> jordo2323: cd /media/Whatever [22:50] <xaos3k> hello there [22:50] <Scombr0> So, I have to do it manually then? [22:50] <DasEi> jordo2323: ls [22:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, try this man. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549953 [22:50] <jordo2323> DasEi: Already there [22:50] <nvme> is it possible to manually 'reset' or free up a socket (for java socket based app) ?? [22:50] <jordo2323> DasEi: And...? [22:51] <DasEi> jordo2323: can see th the crippled file ? [22:51] <edqnag> <SpaceGhostC2C> i did and it sais no such file.... [22:51] <Scombr0> Thank you SpaceGhostC2C. [22:51] <xaos3k> how can i chroot into ubuntu from an ubuntu 9.10 live cd? [22:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> And optionally, don't take criticism to heart. It's more helpful to learn and move on. Let me know if you need more help. [22:51] <jordo2323> DasEi: Nope....no remnants there [22:51] <neptune_> hi [22:51] <peter_> why the hell i cant connect bluetooth with mobile :O [22:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | neptune_ [22:51] <ubottu> neptune_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [22:51] <neptune_> i have a simple C question but i can't post at the relevant room [22:51] <wrightrocket> jordo2323: Either you don't have fat32 or you don't have those files all there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table [22:51] <neptune_> can i ask here? [22:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> !patience | peter_ [22:51] <ubottu> peter_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [22:52] <DasEi> xaos3k: mount hd like /media/hd, then sudo chroot /media/hd [22:52] <peter_> i search everything dude [22:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ask | neptune_ [22:52] <ubottu> neptune_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [22:52] <peter_> i am reading about this for 3 days [22:52] <jordo2323> wrightrocket: On the ext drive? Pretty sure they are there (I've watched all of them on another machine) [22:52] <neptune_> http://codepad.org/OgNBvJhD does anyone know why it says sin and cos are undefined? [22:52] <DasEi> jordo2323: df << is there enough free place ? (mind trash, too, if not emtied, space is still taken up) [22:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> peter_, then chill out. Calm down. I waited six months for a bug to be fixed. Three days is small. Just keep plugging away ask here every 15 minutes. [22:53] <GSF1200S> what would happen if I deleted everything in /var? [22:53] <GSF1200S> well [22:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> GSF1200S, why would you do that? [22:53] <GSF1200S> /var/log [22:53] <edqnag> SpaceGhostC2C i did and it sais no such file.... [22:53] <nvme> is it possible to manually 'reset' or free up a socket (for java socket based app) ?? [22:53] <jordo2323> DasEi: Yeah...I'll check any hiddens....can't believe I didn't think of that [22:53] <ejv> GSF1200S: syslog-ng will regenerate said files after a restart of logging services [22:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> GSF1200S, why delete everything, if you want to delete one thing? It's that sorta silly? [22:54] <GSF1200S> SpaceGhost- for some reason /var/log is taking up 3.3GB of / free space [22:54] <lime> GSF1200S, Some of the services might die [22:54] <DasEi> jordo2323: so enough space free now ? [22:54] <GSF1200S> will they be restored on reboot? [22:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> edqnag, you have to replace filename.bin with your file. [22:54] <lime> GSF1200S, Not necessarily, depends on which services you have installed [22:54] <xaos3k> DasEi, now its working, kept telling me that theres no /bin/bash, anyway, thanks [22:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> GSF1200S, then clear the logs, not just /var [22:55] <lime> GSF1200S, It could happen that services that expect that a directory exists fails when not finding it [22:55] <silence_> VCoolio : I did the perl /path/to/script and it seemed to work. A carrot came up and otherwise nothing happened. what do I do now? [22:55] <Dannyboy> \o [22:55] <GSF1200S> yeah, thats what I meant to say man.. /var/log.. I just wondered if any thing would happen.. I dont know much about /var [22:55] <edqnag> SpaceGhostC2C i did that ofc and still nothing [22:55] <lime> GSF1200S, But it is not impossible to recover from it [22:55] <M1DLGpc> I have been slowly recovering the damage done to my partitions (with help over the last week from here) I have now got a big one, I need to copy or recover a partition that has been formated as EXT3 and damaged when windows formated a small segment (overlaping) the begining of the EXT3 partition. As the partiton shows as being there, but unaccessable under linux can anyone recomend how I recover my last partitions data so I can perform a [22:55] <M1DLGpc> re-install from scratch [22:55] <ejv> push /var/log to tmpfs so if the fuzzies come after you, it's volatile [22:55] <jordo2323> DasEi: Hard to tell.....my system reports that there was 42+GB available....no real large files in the Trash folders on the drive either [22:55] <ejv> ;) [22:55] <Scombr0> So lime, there's no way i can install php5 with apt and specify what modules to install? [22:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> edqnag, what did the output say? If nothing then you're ready to execute the file [22:55] <e01> i am trying to compile gnome-mplayer but i get message [22:55] <e01> No package 'x11' found [22:56] <GSF1200S> lime: well, its a standard install of xubuntu 9.10.. only thing ive done is added a cron job.. other than that its a default install [22:56] <e01> how an i fix it [22:56] <ejv> install x11 e01 ? [22:56] <e01> i have xorg === kad__ is now known as boob [22:56] <DasEi> jordo2323: and the file to be copied has ? [22:56] <tdskate> can anyone explain to me what this means: http://i48.tinypic.com/vqp75c.jpg -- I allways start the first one, ...-19-generic, byt what's the ...-14 ? === boob is now known as boobb [22:56] <jordo2323> DasEi: I checked again and the target file was on the drive [22:56] <jordo2323> DasEi: Not in its entirety, but it's there and it won't let me delete it too [22:56] <Wispring> SpaceGhost, ok I have the drivers downloaded now [22:56] <wrightrocket> neptune_: do you have the libc6-dev package installed? [22:56] <jordo2323> DasEi: Now it did....it let me delete it on the second try [22:56] <DasEi> jordo2323: you can see it in ls ? [22:57] <e01> ejv, wich package is it? [22:57] <edqnag> sais nothing [22:57] <DasEi> jordo2323: you're little confusing [22:57] <DasEi> jordo2323: and the file to be copied has which size ? [22:57] <ejv> e01: i have no idea, there are tons of packages with x11 dependencies, google :) [22:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, now, you need to press Alt+f2 then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop Then log into the terminal and go to where you downloaded the drivers. Type chmod +x Nvi* then type ./Nvi{Tab} [22:57] <scivi> tdskate is just old kernal versions [22:58] <jordo2323> DasEi: I can't see it at all using ls and the file size is 4GB [22:58] <lime> Scombr0, Well, it seems that the module you want is not available by default. . . [22:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, if anything breaks, in the terminal type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [22:58] <DasEi> jordo2323: k, and deleted the cripple now... [22:58] <jordo2323> DasEi: cripple seems deleted now [22:59] <neptune_> i should have added -lm at the end [22:59] <neptune_> thanks [22:59] <DasEi> jordo2323: rsync -P /path/to/file /media/Whatever [22:59] <Dannyboy> \o [22:59] <Scombr0> lime: Alright, so apt-get source php5 and do it manually right? [22:59] <tdskate> scivi: do i need the other one? the -14-generic.. -- if not, how can i remove it ? [22:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, you should be able to follow that link bro. [22:59] <tdskate> scivi: or is there really no reason to remove it ? [23:00] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C, i have a hard time understanding it, english aint my native english. [23:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, if you wanted to you can [23:00] <Scombr0> asd [23:00] <Scombr0> *english aint my native language. [23:00] <GSF1200S> SpaceGhostC2C: I just renamed /var/log to /var/log3 and it regened log at an appropriate size.. I just rm /var/log3, yeah? [23:00] <tdskate> SpaceGhostC2C: but it's not necessary ? [23:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, then I would be pretty careful and read it more than once, optionally you can ask someone's help specifically and take it to pms. [23:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> GSF1200S, if you're sure you want to. [23:00] <jordo2323> DasEi: Running now.... [23:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, nope. [23:01] <tdskate> ok, other question: how can i skip the grub screen? [23:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, so you can't pick any options? I don't reccomend that. [23:01] <tdskate> i don't like the waiting [23:01] <DasEi> tdskate: grub 1 or 2 ? [23:01] <tdskate> 2 [23:01] <GSF1200S> SpaceGhostC2C, well.. haha, I hate the rm command, hence why im asking. whatever, it already regened /var/log [23:01] <tdskate> $i guess [23:01] <ejv> tdskate: you can't skip the bootloader, you can however lower the timing [23:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, maybe lower the wait time in your grub configuration [23:02] <PeterT> how do you browse ubuntu's repos online? [23:02] <tdskate> how do i do that? [23:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> GSF1200S, it will. Those are the logs on your machine. [23:02] <DasEi> tdskate: edit /etc/default/grub (timeout), then sudo update-grub [23:02] <leonh> Quick question: A friend of mine wants to try out ubuntu on his MacBook. He is planning to use an USB HDD to install it on. Will sleep still work when booting off an external drive? [23:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> tdskate, I don't know grub2. [23:02] <Scombr0> Alright SpaceGhostC2C. Thank you. [23:02] <ejv> tdskate: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst [23:02] <tdskate> thanks ejv [23:02] <ejv> oh grub2, hmm [23:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, no worries mate. [23:02] <ejv> it's changed tdskate [23:02] <DasEi> ejv: grub2 [23:02] <PeterT> how do you browse ubuntu's repos online? [23:02] <edogawa> menu.lst is grub1 [23:02] <PeterT> !repo [23:02] <ubottu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [23:02] <DasEi> tdskate: see above [23:02] <GSF1200S> SpaceGhostC2C, right.. i just wonder why the last one took up 3 GB?! The install is only a week old. Odd [23:02] <ejv> sry, gentoo user here, we don't use fancy things like grub2 [23:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> PeterT, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [23:02] <silence_> I am trying to execute a script, which I have no idea how to do. I did perl ~/desktop/script, a carrot came up and nothing else happened. What do I do now? [23:02] <PeterT> thanks SpaceGhostC2C [23:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> PeterT, anytime, maybe give it a google before you ask. [23:03] <PeterT> ok [23:03] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C hit enter after Nvi* or ./Nvi{Tab} or enter after both? [23:03] <Scombr0> Btw SpaceGhostC2C, where does apt-get source save the files downloaded? [23:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> first do this sudo chmod +x Nvi* [23:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, then do this ./Nvi* [23:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, but do it in the folder the file is in. [23:04] <Daughain> I'm looking for some information, anyone got the time to answer stupid questions? [23:04] <tdskate> hmmm, there seems to be no menu.lst inside /boot/grub/ [23:04] <xfact> Hello I love to play FarmVille in Facebook and when I used Windows then it was not an issue, but now in my Ubuntu karmic it running very slow, you guys know any geeky way to make it faster? [23:04] <edogawa> tdskate: /boot/grub/grub.cfg i believe [23:04] <ejv> tdskate: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/grub.cfg ; then when done, sudo update-grub [23:04] <d3vic3> tdskate: it's grub2, config files aren't the same as grub [23:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77017 [23:04] <jrib> Daughain: on irc, the only stupid question is "can i ask a question" :) [23:05] <archboxman> anyone use jahshaka, Think of trying jahshaka I use kdenlive... [23:05] <Wispring> roger [23:05] <tauren> xfact: i don't know anythinga bout farmville, but what browser are you using? [23:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> xfact, yes. You use epiphany. [23:05] <Sensiva> tdskate Grub2 basics http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 [23:05] <ejv> tdskate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [23:05] <Daughain> I asked if anyone had time. :P Last time I popped in was when everyone was asleep. =) [23:05] <ejv> official ;) [23:05] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C is a magic box with answers. Thanks you :) [23:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Daughain, just ask the question bro. [23:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, aww thanks pal. [23:06] <jordo2323> DasEi: Ok....it failed....pastebin? [23:06] <DasEi> asleep, Daughain ? never, just ask [23:06] <xfact> tauren, It's just another hard flash based application and I am using Chrome 5 Beta series [23:06] <DasEi> jordo2323: y [23:06] <xfact> SpaceGhostC2C, Ok trying [23:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> xfact, it's a really fast small browser. I less than three it. [23:06] * bittin is away: I'm busy [23:06] <tdskate> ok thx all [23:06] <tauren> xfact: ah, well if it was js based, I was going to suggest using Chrome. Much faster than FF. [23:06] <leonh> Maybe my question got lost earlier, so I'll ask it again: Will sleep still work when booting from a USB drive? [23:07] <jordo2323> DasEi: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6227e352 [23:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, it's a facebook app, so it's flash. [23:07] <tdskate> my next mission is to find a way to have a column browser like OSX, in Nautilus.. anyone? :))) [23:07] <silence_> I am trying to execute a script, which I have no idea how to do. I did perl ~/desktop/script, a carrot came up and nothing else happened. What do I do now? [23:07] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: don't use FB apps, so wouldn't know. [23:07] <Sensiva> tdskate column browser? [23:07] <xfact> SpaceGhostC2C, I think it's a flash plugin problem, so browser is not an issue (but still trying) [23:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, no worries mate. Just letting you know. [23:07] <ejv> silence_: chmod +x <file> ; then ./<file> [23:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> xfact, there was a recent update with the flash plugin. [23:08] <tvaughn> !nonfree [23:08] <tdskate> Sensiva, yes, miller columns: [23:08] <ubottu> When we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Open Source. Software that is not open source cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except the software authors -- which is not us :( [23:08] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: thanx [23:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, anytime friend. [23:08] <Daughain> OK, I'm looking to enable voice calling on a 3G equiped netbook, using the carrier designated phone number. I would prefer to stick with ubuntu, but was pointed to openmoko as a possible solution. Is there an ubuntu port, or just Debian? [23:08] <tvaughn> ubottu: repo [23:08] <ubottu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [23:08] <xfact> Yea 10.0.45 I have just done [23:08] <Random832> Sensiva; like http://www.gnustep.it/enrico/gworkspace/images/screenshot.jpg [23:08] <Dannyboy> \o [23:08] <tvaughn> I should be pming the bot sorry [23:08] <jrib> silence_: why are you trying to execute the script? [23:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> Daughain, so you want to call real phones or just software phones? [23:09] <jrib> !away > bittin [23:09] <ubottu> bittin, please see my private message [23:09] <tdskate> like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_Columns [23:09] <ejv> maybe he wrote it jrib ? lol [23:09] <Daughain> SpaceGhostC2C: "Real" phone calls. [23:09] <Sensiva> Ranakah aha now I get it [23:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> Daughain, and what do you prefer to use? [23:09] <Ranakah> Sensiva what? [23:09] <silence_> jrib ATI issue [23:09] <tauren> I'm a developer and looking to start using virtualization in ubuntu. any good guides on good ways to get things setup for doing this? [23:09] <Roasted> Question - Karmic comes with Firefox 3.5. I have a Firefox 3.6 PPA installed. If I want to go back to Firefox 3.5, what do I need to do? I was thinking remove the PPA, uninstall Firefox, then reinstall Firefox (which I would assume would grab it from the repo then). Is that train of thought correct? [23:09] <Sensiva> tdskate check the software center, search for file manager, there are many [23:09] <jrib> silence_: that's vague. You need to be specific. [23:09] <Daughain> SpaceGhostC2C: I prefer kubuntu, to be picky. [23:09] <Sensiva> Ranakah sorry wrong nick :) [23:09] <xfact> Ubuntu's flash is still not much familiar as Windows, it also get slow when I watch youtube vids with HQ on. [23:10] <tvaughn> I prefer xubuntu myself [23:10] <ejv> !kvm | tauren [23:10] <archboxman> leonh: I know the screen goes black not sure if the cpu enters into sleep mode... You would have to try it your self :) [23:10] <Ranakah> Sensiva okay no problem :> [23:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> Daughain, in that case, I can't help you friend. Not with K-basd apps. [23:10] <zeal0t> Connect to irc.OFTC.net for spam-free & abuse-free discussion and support for open source projects [23:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> tvaughn, I like LXDE [23:10] <silence_> I have the ATI watermark. I found a script to fix it but I don't know how to run it [23:10] <ejv> srsly, the bot knows nothing about kvm? wtf.. [23:10] <tauren> ejv: virtualbox then? [23:10] <tauren> ejv: or xen? [23:10] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C, last question, how do I uninstall something i installed with apt? [23:10] <ejv> kvm is exciting stuff [23:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, what are you wanting to accomplish? [23:10] <ubottu> tauren: kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [23:10] <ejv> there we go [23:10] <ejv> bot is lagged [23:10] <Daughain> SpaceGhostC2C: Fine, I dont really care what flavor of linux, I just want to know if this is where I need to be to start this project. =) [23:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, sudo apt-get remove <packagename> [23:10] <jrib> !who | silence_ [23:10] <ubottu> silence_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [23:10] <zeal0t> Freenode is officially out of commission [23:10] <zeal0t> Connect to irc.OFTC.net for spam-free & abuse-free discussion and support for open source projects [23:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> Daughain, do you want it to cost you nothing? [23:11] <almoxarife> !synaptic [23:11] <ubottu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto [23:11] <ejv> tauren: kernel based virtualization, not hardware KVM :p [23:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ops | zeal0t [23:11] <ubottu> zeal0t: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [23:11] <tvaughn> !tab [23:11] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: not sure yet. was looking for a guide that goes over best practices and gives suggestions on how to best used virt as a dev. [23:11] <ubottu> You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [23:11] <goose> !ops | zeal0t is a spam hammer [23:11] <ubottu> zeal0t is a spam hammer: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [23:11] <Daughain> SpaceGhostC2C: Define costing nothing?? I still have to pay for the data plan and minutes. [23:11] <ejv> tauren: you could also choose vbox or xen [23:11] <d3vic3> Scombr0: apt-get remove package [23:11] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C, that's what I thought, but it remains installed, i did that for php5, and i still see the phpinfo.. [23:11] <ejv> tauren: reall up to you [23:11] <nagchampa> is there an easy way to set up a ppp over bluetooth connection? [23:11] <ejv> tauren: s/reall/really [23:11] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C; And only 20,5kB were deleted.. which makes no sense. [23:12] <goose> I was just working on a text file in gedit when my laptop locked up on me, I had to hard-shut down. Now that I've booted back up, the file is no longer on my desktop. I haven't tried to open gedit yet. Can I recover the file? [23:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, that's the main program files, if you wanted the configuration removed, then you'd run sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename> [23:12] <tvaughn> there is an unfree repo correct? [23:12] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: for instance, does it make sense to run multiplle VMs for things like Eclipse, FF, Chrome, etc. [23:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, you've also got to kill the application. [23:12] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C, i want to uninstall php5 completely. [23:12] <DasEi> jordo2323: hm, broken pipe, try to copy file to another destination on hd ? [23:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> Scombr0, then add --purge. [23:13] <Scombr0> Alright :) [23:13] <ejv> goose: Edit --> Preferences --> --> Editor --> File Saving [23:13] <PeskyJ> is ecryptfs-utils somethign you should install using apt-get only? I can't seem to find it in the software centre [23:13] <Sensiva> Roasted use synaptic to remove the currently installed firefox, then install firefox from Ubuntu repos, check the packages origins. [23:13] <Roasted> Sensiva, but if I remove the PPA and just apt-get firefox (after removing it) would I grab the repo version then? [23:13] <ejv> goose: if you have that enabled, look for hidden files (ctrl+h) in your home directory [23:13] <DasEi> tvaughn: you ask repos for non-gpl stuff ? yes, there are [23:14] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: so that my test FF instance or test Chrome instance isn't polluted with my normal browsing, plugins, etc. [23:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, if you have the machine and the resources, you can do VMs or XEN. I would rather just run each application in a sandbox. [23:14] <Pianoman13> can someone help me installing the necessary driver for a linksys router, i am a new ubuntu 9.10 user [23:14] <imperfect-> Anyone using ubuntu on a HP Mini 110 ? [23:14] <goose> ejv: auto create backup wasn't enabled, and the old version that's usually hidden with the ~ isn't there either [23:14] <tvaughn> DasEi: I was sure dropbox was in the ubuntu repos but it is not, so im trying to find the repo I need added [23:14] <imperfect-> I'm curious if it suports the integrated 3g card [23:14] <Sensiva> Roasted that's why I am saying use synaptic, it will show you the origin of firefox's in your lists, tick the one originate from Ubuntu repos [23:14] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: by sandbox, i assume you mean in a vm? [23:14] <Roasted> Sensiva, good deal. WOuld I lose firefox bookmarks and whatnot in this process? [23:14] <DasEi> !info dropbox | tvaughn [23:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, no. Let me grab you a link. [23:15] <Daughain> inmperfect-: Thats one system I am looking into tinkering with. [23:15] <ubottu> tvaughn: Package dropbox does not exist in karmic [23:15] <Sensiva> Roasted I am not sure, to be save... back them up. [23:15] <deepocean> Good evening gentlemen. I am considering a switch from windows to Ubuntu. The only remaining question. Is it possible to run MS Excel, PowerPoint & Word 2007 on ubuntu? (OpenOffice is unfortunatley not an option for me) [23:15] <tvaughn> it may not be called dropbox exacctly [23:15] <Roasted> Sensiva, always. thanks! [23:15] <meowbuntu> hi all whats teh best wat to install an os to an old 4gig hdd. i was thinking unetbootin [23:15] <Sensiva> uw uw [23:15] <ejv> goose: the prognosis isn't good then, sorry :\ [23:15] <Wispring> SpaceGhost, how do I get the X-server turned off or get to a terminal prompt to do the ./NVI* part? [23:15] <PeskyJ> deepocean: yeah, just install them (make sure wine is installed first) [23:15] <lime> deepocean, Yes, with Wine [23:15] <meowbuntu> meowbuntu: test [23:15] <rapha> I turned off the screensaver and set all power management settings to keep the screen on, but it still always turns off after a couple of minutes - what am I still missing? [23:16] <goose> ejv: I see a " gedit.goose.1142160038 " in my /tmp, but I can't open or move it, even as root [23:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> Wispring, in a terminal type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [23:16] <goose> getting a "No such device or address" message [23:16] <lime> rapha, Maybe it's a bios setting? [23:16] <deepocean> lime PeskyJ thanks. I will look in to it! [23:16] <d3vic3> rapha: try googling for caffeine [23:16] <Sensiva> Pianoman13 is it a USB modem? [23:17] <deepocean> Was there not a commercial version of wine somewhere? [23:17] <lime> deepocean, But it has a few issues . . [23:17] <lime> deepocean, Yes, CrossOver [23:17] <meowbuntu> hi all whats teh best wat to install an os to an old 4gig hdd. i was thinking unetbootin [23:17] <xfact> I like the long loading bar of epiphany/midori, [23:17] <DasEi> Pianoman13: wrong approach, it' provides dhcp I gues, go just got to setup your interfaces, the router needs no driver [23:17] <deepocean> Crossover! [23:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> !engrish | meowbuntu [23:17] <PeskyJ> deepocean: if you go to the ubuntu software centre (bottom option in the applications menu) then search for wine - install that then put in your office CDs and install from there same as on windows [23:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> Aww. [23:18] <barcode> since im 17 do i even need my fucking parents permission? [23:18] <xfact> Epiphany also considered as 'light weight' as midori., right? [23:18] <d3vic3> Pianoman13: use your ethernet interface rather than using usb! [23:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, try looking up chroots. I'll get you a link [23:18] <deepocean> PeskyJ I have yet to install Ubuntu [23:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> !language | barcode [23:18] <ubottu> barcode: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [23:18] <Sensiva> deegee yeah CrossOverLinux and there is CrossOverMac too [23:18] <deepocean> I will download Ubunutu right now :) [23:18] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks! [23:18] <barcode> oops sorry wrong irc window :P [23:19] <d3vic3> xfact: yep, don't forget links2 and lynx [23:19] <lime> barcode, And, yes, you should listen to your parents! :) [23:19] <barcode> no :| [23:19] <barcode> they wont let me goto church [23:19] <tdskate> are there any web designers in this room ? [23:19] <tdskate> (that have experience with ubuntu- [23:19] * Sensiva hates the tab key [23:20] <xfact> Somebody tell barcode about 'off-topic; [23:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> tauren, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot There you go mate. [23:20] <deepocean> PeskyJ Does Crossover Office work better than the wine version ? [23:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ot | barcode [23:20] <ubottu> barcode: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [23:20] <PeskyJ> deepocean: while I hate word and excel because they suck - they don't suck as bad as OOo so I use them on Ubuntu with no probs [23:20] <yaaang> help, xorg is eating all my ram [23:20] <tauren> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks, i'll read up on those. [23:20] <yaaang> it's up to 1.2GB; xrestop doesn't show anything taking up a lot of mem [23:20] <yaaang> (largest is 10M) [23:20] <PeskyJ> deepocean: no idea - I use the normal office (2003) install from the microsoft CDs under wine - works fine for me [23:21] <xfact> SpaceGhostC2C, right, Epiphany is comparatively faster, thanks :) [23:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hate | PeskyJ [23:21] <ubottu> PeskyJ: hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy [23:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> xfact, no worries friend. Glad you like it. [23:21] <deepocean> PeskyJ could press ALT+F11 for me to see if VBA screen pops up [23:21] <tdskate> are there any web designers in this room ? [23:22] <meowbuntu> hi all whats teh best wat to install an os to an old 4gig hdd. i was thinking unetbootin [23:22] <Sensiva> deepocean Crossover products is just a polished wine release, both are same, except Crossover has more GUI's [23:22] <goose> I see a " gedit.goose.1142160038 " in my /tmp, I think it's the file I was working with in gedit before my laptop locked up and I had to hard shutdown, but I can't open or move it, even as root. Ideas? [23:22] <PeskyJ> deepocean: I'm in the process of moving to a new laptop atm so haven't installed them on this one yet [23:22] <DasEi> meowbuntu: standard install /w : [23:22] <DasEi> !minimal [23:22] <d3vic3> tdskate: ask your matter clearly! [23:22] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [23:22] * xfact feels good, when somebody calls him 'friend' :) [23:22] <deepocean> PeskyJ ok thanks for the help so far bro [23:22] <rabbi2> c [23:22] <deepocean> lime are you still there? [23:22] <Sensiva> xfact hey friend :) [23:23] <PeskyJ> deepocean: just search on google, should find plenty of examples of working/not working stuff - office 2007 might be more problematic than 2003 for example [23:23] <NoobMan> someone has played age of empires II on virtualbox? [23:23] <xfact> :) [23:23] <rwfeorhewoi> hey guys. I have a serious problem with my ubuntu, can someone help me? [23:23] <DasEi> deepocean: you are just looking for a comfortable, slight editor compatible to win-docs ? [23:23] <Sensiva> rwfeorhewoi be more specific please [23:24] <xfact> SpaceGhostC2C, Do you know how to enable spell-checker in Epiphany? [23:24] <mohadib> hello there [23:24] <NoobMan> someone has played age of empires II on virtualbox? [23:24] <rwfeorhewoi> I installed ubuntu 9.10 under Windows Xp Pro SP3 and now my Ubuntu doesn't start anymore. The problem is that i need the files which are still on the root.disk file. How can i recover my files? [23:25] <DasEi> !repeat | NoobMan [23:25] <ubottu> NoobMan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [23:25] <yaaang> help, xorg is eating all my ram. it's up to 1.2GB; xrestop doesn't show anything taking up a lot of mem [23:25] <rwfeorhewoi> Mounting the root.disk under (the newly installed) ubuntu doenst work. I shows no files. [23:25] <rwfeorhewoi> *it [23:26] <Sensiva> rwfeorhewoi I don't know how to recover those files, may be if you tell why it doesn't start helps? [23:26] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: rootdisk ? what's that , a cd ? [23:26] <macman_> you guys rock like always .. ttyl [23:26] <Lord-Readman> http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9 [23:26] <rwfeorhewoi> root.disk is a file under windows. Seems like all Ubuntu data is stored into this file, if you install ubuntu embedded into windows [23:27] <deepocean> DasEi what do you mean? [23:27] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: you talk about wubi, k no clue then [23:27] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: then if you reinstalled ubuntu you're likely to having erased your data there! [23:27] <rwfeorhewoi> so im wrong here? [23:27] <DasEi> deepocean: you're looking for an editor ? [23:28] <rwfeorhewoi> No i copied all data before reinstall [23:28] <meowbuntu> all i want to do is work out for my 4gig hdd what is teh best way to install to it to get max use of drivr. as swap is usualy 2gig that will use half the drive. i want full install if poss [23:28] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: copied them where? [23:28] <deepocean> DasEi No The only app I need to run on Linux is the MS Office Excel Word and Powerpoint. Other than that I am good to convert to Linux. [23:28] <rwfeorhewoi> I still got all relevant data on another hdd [23:28] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: no, but I have used wubi once and since it already fails at fragmentation, went away from it, maybe someone else will help [23:28] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: not work after kernel upgrade? [23:29] <rwfeorhewoi> i coulndt log on, and since im new i found it the best idea to copy all data and reinstall [23:29] <DasEi> deepocean: ic, otherwise abiword is a less ressource-hungry , comfortable editor [23:29] <silence_> how do I type chmod +x <file> into the terminal if my filename is x.sh? [23:29] <goose> I see a " gedit.goose.1142160038 " in my /tmp, I think it's the file I was working with in gedit before my laptop locked up and I had to hard shutdown, but I can't open or move it, even as root. every time I try to cp, mv, or cat the file, I get a "No such device or address" error. ideas? [23:29] <arand> meowbuntu: what i would do is skip swap completely, and live with inability to hibernate. [23:29] <rwfeorhewoi> now i got all the data but have no access to it :-( [23:30] <DasEi> silence_: prefix with sudo [23:30] <NoobMan> someone has played age of empires II on virtualbox? my guest operation is WinXP and it's is very fast... but playing... was very slow and direct3d emulation was enabled :( === s1ck7e is now known as s1ck7e[AFK] [23:30] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: used root account? [23:30] <rwfeorhewoi> a what? [23:30] <DasEi> NoobMan: this won't work fine, did you check wine for that ? [23:31] <Sensiva> silence_ chmod +x x.sh [23:31] <arand> meowbuntu: still 4GB will fill up if you install a few things, so you'll always have to keep an eye on it.. [23:31] <silence_> dasEi: what exactly do I say? I do not know how to use terminal. do I include the + and the <>? [23:31] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: I have had the same problem 3 times now :) [23:31] <deepocean> man this SUCKS [23:31] <almoxarife> :( [23:31] <deepocean> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2854;forum=1;msg=50617 [23:31] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: your super user account named root [23:31] <DasEi> silence_: sudo chmod +x somefile.sh [23:31] <Lord-Readman> hives, this is it http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9 [23:31] <rwfeorhewoi> that doesn't matter because i reinstalled. [23:31] <Doc_> boom boom [23:31] <NoobMan> yes... but doesn't work to :( [23:31] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: tried to chkdisk thru win to possibly fix the issue? [23:32] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: what type of error you're getting when trying to read files? [23:33] <rwfeorhewoi> I can read all files, i can see them all under windows. the problem is, i can only see the root.disk file from ubuntu which seems to be like some archive used to store all files. [23:33] <rwfeorhewoi> My question is how to access this archieve [23:33] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: root.disk is a virtual drive [23:33] <rwfeorhewoi> Either under Ubuntu or Windows. I'd welcome any method, tip or anything [23:33] <deepocean> Was there not an option to run Windows "Natively" in a virtualization mode ? (Like on the MAC) [23:33] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: ah, now I get you (maybe): you installed karmic in wubi and try to access files via a fs-driver from windows ? [23:34] <DasEi> !wine | NoobMan [23:34] <ubottu> NoobMan: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [23:34] <rwfeorhewoi> i dont know what karmic is but i installed ubuntu with wubi. [23:34] <DasEi> !karmic [23:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [23:34] <deepocean> DasEi I was not refering to Wine. But a Virtualization software. [23:34] <NoobMan> rwfeorhewoi, do you try to mount this files on windows? using http://www.fs-driver.org/ [23:35] <rwfeorhewoi> now i got those let's say "wubi-files" on my harddrive in windows, but i cant access them! [23:35] <DasEi> deepocean: nick-miss ? [23:35] <Praetor> I sure do like the fact that Linux is smartly done compared to Microshaft's Winblowz [23:36] <rwfeorhewoi> i installed this program but i dont know what to do with it :-( [23:36] <V4mpire> which is the best route to upgrade to 9.10 is it better to use upgrade function to go to 9.04 then to 10 or just change repo's to 9.10 ? [23:36] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: try mounting your root.disk file : sudo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /tmpdir [23:36] <Dannyboy> \o [23:36] <rwfeorhewoi> in windows? [23:36] <rwfeorhewoi> oO [23:36] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: karmic uses ext4 as fs, the current drivers for windows to read only can do ext3, then you will only see the rootfolder, but no subdirs [23:36] <PeskyJ> on a machine that has windows and a partition and then ubuntu, is it possible to repartition it all into one partition with the ubuntu install, losing the windows partitions completely? [23:36] <d3vic3> rwfeorhewoi: no, under linux [23:37] <rwfeorhewoi> cant i mount the file by just double clicking it under Linux? [23:37] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: to access that, have to boot a live cd, and do what d3vic3 saiys [23:37] <aseemb> @PeskyJ I believe you can choose to "expand" your ubuntu partition to take up the entire drive [23:37] <Scombr0> SpaceGhostC2C, it was really easy, following the first post here: http://php.net/manual/en/ref.pcntl.php [23:37] <Scombr0> No errors at all :] [23:37] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: I think in the end you are going to have to re-install via wubi, I learned a lesson from the same type of crash you are talking about, on the next re-installed wubi include package 'sbackup' , keep the backup folder off the root.disk, when it crashes again, and it will, you can re-install wubi and take your home dir off of the backup, everything else I found time consuming [23:37] <DasEi> !iso | rwfeorhewoi [23:37] <ubottu> rwfeorhewoi: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [23:37] <rwfeorhewoi> Because that's what i already did and the new drive hadn't any data on it [23:38] <PeskyJ> aseemb: and that won't destroy the ubuntu install? [23:38] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: and truly, do a dualboot, this wubi apart from a look is a pain always concerning recovery [23:39] <almoxarife> DasEi: yes it is [23:39] <Lord-Readman> Ryan you even here? http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9 then you can install x68k linux [23:40] <almoxarife> wubi crashes on my machine usually after a kernel upgrade, no idea why [23:40] <rwfeorhewoi> i've got no idea what to do actually ... :-( [23:40] <rwfeorhewoi> you guys surely want to help me... but i guess im too new concerning this topic [23:40] <rwfeorhewoi> :-( [23:40] <daftykins> Hi all, can anyone suggest why this config might not automatically set the defined modeline please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/379405/ Thanks in advance :) [23:41] <Praetor> does anybody know if Adobe CS4 has issues under Wine? [23:41] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: have you got a live cd ? [23:41] <daftykins> Praetor: the wine website has a list of application compatibility [23:41] <deepocean> What virtualization software is available to Linux?> [23:41] <Praetor> ty [23:41] <aseemb> PeskyJ: hmm, that's an interesting question, i think i read someplace that if your harddrive has the windows partition before the linux partition, you will not be able to grow it because you can only expand the end of ext3 partitions with gparted [23:41] <DasEi> !virtualization | deepocean [23:41] <ubottu> deepocean: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu. See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [23:41] <daftykins> deepocean: loads, vmware, virtualbox, KVM, Xen, etc [23:41] <djustice> ello channel. how do i generate /boot/vmlinuz again? i seem to have misplaced it... [23:41] <rwfeorhewoi> i also got ubuntu installed (again= [23:41] <Praetor> vmware works on linux [23:42] <PeskyJ> aseemb: yeah - that makes sense [23:42] <deepocean> ubottu thanks [23:42] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [23:42] <rwfeorhewoi> Is that okay too? [23:42] <DasEi> deepocean: I use virtualbox a lot [23:42] <PeskyJ> aseemb: I suppose you could make a drive image then trash the drive and start over putting the drive image then extending it [23:42] <almoxarife> rwfeorhewoi: do this, it will save you a big headache, un-install wubi via windows, re-install wubi, get the package that does a simple backup, do backup at least the home folder, wait for the next crash :), re-install wubi, get you home folder from the backup [23:42] <DasEi> deepocean: ubott.. is the channel ro-bot [23:43] <aseemb> PeskyJ: yes i suppose that should work [23:43] <Scombr0> Where can I find the php binary file? [23:44] <DasEi> rwfeorhewoi: better leave wubi entirely, do a dualboot, so people can help you then [23:44] <deepocean> DasEi Which of the applications is more mature ? VirtualBox or for example VmWare KVM? [23:44] <blakkheim> Scombr0: whereis psp [23:44] <blakkheim> Scombr0: whereis php* [23:44] <DasEi> deepocean: mature ? [23:44] <almoxarife> DasEi: yes, that is true [23:44] <silence_> I am trying to run a script with perl /path/to/scrip. What file extention should it be? [23:44] <Dannyboy> \o [23:44] <Scombr0> That's the problem blakkheim, i'm not very familiar with Ubuntu. [23:44] <blakkheim> silence_: doesn't matter in linux [23:44] <deepocean> DasEi Most stable and easy to use. [23:44] <blakkheim> Scombr0: i just gave you the command to run; "whereis php" [23:44] <wrightrocket> silence_: conventionally .pl [23:44] <Scombr0> Oh.. [23:44] <Scombr0> Heh, thanks blakkheim, my bad. [23:45] <silence_> wrightrocket how do I make a .pl? [23:45] <blakkheim> Scombr0: it's probably in /usr/bin [23:45] <blakkheim> silence_: mv perlscript perlscript.pl [23:45] <Scombr0> blakkheim: i got -> php: [23:45] <wrightrocket> silence_: any text editor [23:45] <Sensiva> Scombr0 then its not installed [23:45] <Scombr0> Sensiva, it is installed, installed it with apt. [23:45] <Scombr0> And it's working. [23:46] <DasEi> deepocean: vmware and virtualbox are both, whereas vmware only the player is free for private use, can use a trial to set up v-machines or use 'done ones , is why I prefer vbox [23:46] <Sensiva> Scombr0 then try which php [23:46] <Scombr0> I supose i had to do: whereis php5 [23:46] <almoxarife> vbox is great [23:46] <almoxarife> and free [23:46] <Sensiva> vbox is awesome spectacular [23:46] <s1ck7e[AFK]> Is Away Reason: Away From Keyboard [23:46] <DasEi> !pm | rwfeorhewoi [23:46] <ubottu> rwfeorhewoi: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [23:46] <deepocean> How about performance wise. VirtualBox vs VmWare. Which is faster [23:47] <deepocean> or kvm? [23:47] <rwfeorhewoi> So i guess i cant be helped and my files are lost because i used wubi ? [23:47] <Sensiva> deepocean the fastest is xen, but installing it is pain in the butt, vbox is FOSS and lightweight virtualizer [23:47] <almoxarife> virtualbox is fast given enough ram === z is now known as Guest4445 [23:48] <deepocean> Sensiva FOSS? [23:48] <Sensiva> Free Open Source Software [23:48] <deepocean> I see === TT is now known as Guest15099 [23:48] <meowbuntu> whats teh command to get all my installed drives info in terminal again [23:49] <DasEi> deepocean: that's a bit a metaquestion: the more comfortable and easy to use, the bigger the ressource hunger will be, things like quemu or kvm are harder to use, but "closer" to the host, concerning vmware and vbox they have their specialities, but I'd say same in the mainpart concerning speed [23:49] <John-_> How do I find out how much memory my video card has? Using 9.10 [23:49] <Sensiva> meowbuntu sudo fdisk -l or sudo blkid [23:49] <deepocean> DasEi I see. Very broadly what is the specialty of VirtualBox and VmWare? [23:49] <DasEi> John-_: lshw [23:50] <DasEi> deepocean: you can use almost any common os in them [23:50] <John-_> Hmm, and from there? I can copy & paste a relevant section [23:50] <seanbrystone> is ubuntuforums.org ubuntu's main forums? [23:50] <DasEi> seanbrystone: y [23:50] <seanbrystone> theres a URL on one of their HOWTO's that need changing/deleting [23:51] <deepocean> DasEi Lets try Ubuntu then :) [23:51] <deepocean> downloading ... [23:51] <Wispring> SpaceGhostC2C, ok I got to work once the drivers were installed..thanks for your help : ))) [23:51] <DasEi> deepocean: for questions here and then, my vbox contains ~derivatives of *nix right now [23:51] <John-_> *-display:0 [23:51] <John-_> description: VGA compatible controller [23:51] <John-_> product: Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller [23:51] <John-_> vendor: Intel Corporation [23:51] <John-_> physical id: 2 [23:51] <John-_> bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 [23:51] <FloodBot1> John-_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [23:52] <deepocean> How long does a Ubuntu install take approximately? [23:52] <seanbrystone> the link for the "Online modelin generator" needs updating on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=454217, the guy that used to run it, has died 2 years ago [23:52] <DasEi> John-_: that's an ob-card, sharing ram , you set amount in bios [23:52] <John-_> ok [23:52] <Sensiva> deepocean depends on your hardware resources, and how you are installing [23:53] <DasEi> deepocean: vbox ? machine specs ? [23:53] <deepocean> Sensiva I am installing the 9.10 cd (700mb) on a dual core 2 laptop 1.86ghz with 3gb ram [23:54] <Sensiva> deepocean using LiveCD or AlternateCD ? [23:54] <DasEi> deepocean: on my oc'd c2d with 4 g ram less than an hour, standard install in vbox [23:54] <PeskyJ> is sshd provided by openssh-server? [23:54] <deepocean> Sensiva I downloaded the desktop edition from Ubuntu Frontpage: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386 [23:54] <PeskyJ> just wondering what package I need to install :P [23:54] <DasEi> PeskyJ: yes, can use scp [23:55] <Sensiva> That's the LiveCD, it won't take more than 30 minutes [23:55] <Sensiva> Good Luck! [23:55] <deepocean> Sensiva thanks [23:55] <PeskyJ> DasEi: yes, to use scp is precisely why I want to run sshd :) [23:55] <DasEi> PeskyJ: will wwork [23:56] <meowbuntu> anyone know how i can mount my /dev/sda2 partition from my live cd [23:56] <DasEi> deepocean: just a tip: give it much ram at install in vbox, can lower it later, that pushes installation speed [23:57] <DasEi> meowbuntu: sure [23:57] <Sensiva> meowbuntu double clicking it in Nautilus will mount it automatically [23:57] <DasEi> meowbuntu: open trml [23:58] <hemant> Hi, I upgraded today to lucid lynx on my macbook pro [23:58] <hemant> since the upgrade I am not able to use my keyboard on the login screen. [23:58] <DasEi> !lucid | hemant [23:58] <ubottu> hemant: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 [23:58] <hemant> ubottu: thanks, I will bug people there. [23:58] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [23:59] <Sensiva> and don't bug anyone, just report the bug :D === pepee_ is now known as pepee [23:59] <beeftube> Is it legal for me to use the ubuntu logo on my business card? I want to advertise that I specialize in ubuntu Linux :D [23:59] <DasEi> he [23:59] <deepocean> DasEi thanks for the tip [23:59] <deepocean> I am almost done with cd download [23:59] <Lord-Readman> beeftube, if you are an ubuntu member [23:59] <Lord-Readman> you can carry ubuntu business cards [23:59] <beeftube> member of the forum Lord-Readman ?