[00:12] <urbanape> sanderqd, the problem with desktopcouch and chrome is that the desktopcouch instance starts up on a random port, and we use dbus to query for the current port.
[00:13] <urbanape> there's no way to shell out from a chrome extension (currently), without resorting to an NPAPI plugin to do the mediation.
[00:32] <sanderqd> urbanape: ok, so a minimal NPAPI plugin would use some way to find the port, username and password
[00:33] <urbanape> yeah, essentially. We use a script for Bindwood (for Firefox) that gets the port, and the OAuth tokens, but same basic idea, yeah.
[09:41] <rye> Hm, something tells me that we need to start moderating messages in ubuntuone-users...
[10:27] <voytech> Hello, I've hot a question, If I have installed desktopcouch and want to replicate databases in ubuntu one do I have to add some record to paired-server-record document ?
[10:27] <voytech> or it will replicate via ubuntuone automatically somehow ?
[10:29] <voytech> becouse I  thought that after installing desktopcouch and for example creating database on couchdb server estabilished by desktopcouch , it will be automatically replicated via ubuntu one
[10:31] <voytech> and now I'm not sure, cose I went to futon on port that desktopcouch run couchdb and there is no cuch paired-server-record document in management database
[10:32] <voytech> and I assume that this record is needed to replicate via ubuntuOne ? am I wrong ?
[10:43] <duanedesign> hello voytech
[10:43] <voytech> hello
[10:45] <teknico> rye, ubuntuone-users is already moderate, I let that message through :-)
[10:45] <teknico> maybe I should have declined for being offtopic?
[10:45] <teknico> declined *it?
[10:45] <rye> teknico, ah,  i was talking about "2Wire 802.11g usb wireless adapter" setup :)
[10:45] <teknico> yes, that one :-)
[10:46] <teknico> iti did include a mention of "ubuntu" at the bottom :-)
[10:46] <duanedesign> rye: do you know the answer to voytechs question?
[10:47] <rye> duanedesign, verifying where the pairing record comes from...
[10:48] <rye> ok, that's com.ubuntuone.Authentication service
[10:48] <rye> voytech, ok, have you used ubuntuone client to authorize your computer for ubuntuone?
[10:49] <voytech> Yes I have ubuntuone client and I have added my computer to ubuntu one
[10:50] <rye> voytech, hm, let me see what that script that aquarius gave us does...
[10:50] <voytech> should there be paired-server record in management database ?
[10:51] <voytech> I've only run desktopcouch by getPort
[10:51] <voytech> I'm signed to launchpad and have my computer added to ubuntuone service
[10:52] <rye> voytech, http://paste.ubuntu.com/378976/ - save it as ubuntuone-couchdb-query
[10:53] <voytech> In my opinion paired-server record should be added, there should be a port of remote ubuntuOne service and address of service
[10:53] <rye> voytech, you should have a record for your computer wit http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/paired_server recordtype
[10:54] <rye> voytech, run that script as e.g. ./ubuntuone-couchdb-query --show-tokens=true notes - it should show what OAuth tokens are used for couchdb replication, if it is actually set up.
[10:54] <voytech> Oh Now I see something like this is management data base "_design/paired_servers"
[10:56] <rye> voytech, design documents are only used to fetch info about the existing regular documents, these are simply views. You should have some 32byte hex record id with paired_server record type
[10:57] <rye> voytech, do you have something in desktopcouch replication log?
[10:58] <rye> ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/desktop-couch-replication.log - do not post it here since it may contain private tokens you won't wish to became public
[10:59] <voytech> Yes I have
[11:00] <voytech> static pairings are []
[11:01] <voytech> this is one of entries in this log
[11:01] <voytech>  there is also "found 0 self_identity records"
[11:01] <voytech> at the beginning
[11:02] <voytech> anf there are logs after 10 minutes
[11:02] <voytech> of replicating of discovered hosts
[11:16] <rye> voytech, then it means that it has not filled the pairing. and actually, management database is not initialized properly
[11:16] <rye> voytech, what version of ubuntuone-client are you running ?
[11:18] <voytech> ok I'm now upgrading ubuntu one
[11:18] <voytech> via apt-get upgrade
[11:31] <voytech> But If I'm singned in launchpad and my computer is added to computers which are in ubuntuone, after running desktpcouch by getPort from its API it should put paired-servers record to management data base ? Am I right. It should be done by default
[11:31] <rye> voytech, the records are put to couchdb by ubuntuone authentication system. In case it failed to do so, then this is what needs to be investigated
[11:33] <voytech> hmm
[12:49] <rye> I know why people use ubuntuone-client to report bugs against various packages, such as scanners, update-manager, etc.
[12:49] <rye> we are the only applet that  has 'Report a bug' item.
[12:49] <aquarius> indeed.
[12:49] <aquarius> this will be helped a lot when the applet goes awya
[12:50] <rye> the people may think that this is a general bug reporting menu.
[12:50] <rye> aquarius, then there will be bugs that will say 'I want my bugreporting tool back!'
[12:50] <aquarius> rye, WONTFIX. :)
[12:55] <alecu> rye, that's a great point. We should have a "Report problem..." option in the System menu, a bit above "About Ubuntu"
[12:55] <rye> alecu, hm, i just started to search the possible way how a regular user can report a bug...
[12:57] <rye> alecu, hm, there is no way to report misbehavior if the user does not know what has actually crashed... though it will be too hard to find out what user meant if he succeeds in creating such bug report. On the other hand, if he gives enough description then we might deduce something...
[12:58] <rye> Since you're requesting help rather than having a bug on the application please raise it at the Launchpad Support Tracker: https://answers.launchpad.net. Thanks in advance.
[12:58] <rye> but that's NOT clickable
[12:58] <rye> ah, it is opened automatically
[12:59] <rye> then it should say so
[12:59] <alecu> rye, also, there's a "Help->report a problem" option in most apps, but there's no generic way to send a bug report.
[12:59] <rye> Wow, You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[13:00] <rye> alecu, yes, i have just clicked on report on problem for 'Help' (yelp?) and it asked me whether I want an advice or to file a bug report.
[13:00] <rye> ok, say when I start any game it freezes my machine. How do I report a problem about that?
[13:03] <alecu> rye, oh, right.
[13:14] <rye> rodrigo_, hi, re: the tomboy bulletted list structure corruption - was that meant to fix such behavior http://picasaweb.google.com/roman.yepishev/Bugs#5439277416387517042 + forward 3 more ?
[13:16]  * rye really needs to set up his own server with gallery, ogg theora video, blog and filesharing... Time to find a cms that supports all this (no desire to write one myself at the moment)
[13:17] <rodrigo_> rye, yes
[13:17] <rodrigo_> rye, going to be deployed today hopefully
[13:18] <rye> rodrigo_, hm, these are the screens from edge when there was a call for testing yesterday...
[13:18] <rodrigo_> rye, yes, the backport of python-lxml was completely broken
[13:19] <rodrigo_> rye, I've re-submitted the branch using a different parser, and now it works on hardy, lucid, etc
[13:19] <rodrigo_> so should be ok now
[13:19] <rodrigo_> once it's deployed, I marked the branch as 'needs-review' again, because there were changes after it was approved
[13:20] <rodrigo_> ok, bbl, need to get out for lunch now
[13:57] <tcole> morning
[14:19] <duanedesign> rye: thats funny i was just thinking this morning about the filing of random bugs against ubuntuone-client because of the 'report a problem' in the applet
[14:20] <duanedesign> i am not sure what i installed to get it, but i have an apport launcher under App > SystemTools > Apport
[15:14] <aaron_seibert> Hi folks.  I noticed an open ticket regarding an issue with ubuntu one and contacts sync.  Was wondering if there was any progress made...
[15:14] <aaron_seibert> or if I have perhaps another issue that should be filed
[15:14] <aaron_seibert> ResourceNotFound: ('db_not_found', 'could not open https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/u%2F84c%2Ffe6%2F348187%2Fcontacts/')
[15:14] <aaron_seibert> is the relevant line from desktop-couch-replication.log
[15:14] <dobey> CardinalFang: not bothering with kicking off the standup any more? :)
[15:16] <CardinalFang> dobey, when I remember, I do.  Today's your turn!
[15:19] <duanedesign> hello aaron_seibert
[15:20] <duanedesign> aaron_seibert: which bug number were looking at on Launchpad?
[15:20] <dobey> neigh
[15:21] <vds> Chipaca: do we stil ldo standup meeting?
[15:21] <dobey> <- not a manager
[15:21] <Chipaca> MEETING BEGINS / MEETING STARTS / STARTING MEETS
[15:22] <vds> me
[15:22] <teknico> me
[15:22] <Chipaca> vds: desktop+ standups should be replaced by desktop destkop+ desktop desktop standups, and web desktop+ standups. Until that happens, we should continue having these.
[15:22] <CardinalFang> me
[15:23] <teknico> ehi! we want web desktop+ web web standups too!
[15:29] <CardinalFang> Okay, I'm going.
[15:29] <CardinalFang> DONE: Some of flipping d-c get_port and dbus-firing inside out.  Chased a silly problem too long about my tarmac run earlier polluting my XDG_CACHE_HOME, making couchdb fail weirdly.
[15:29] <CardinalFang> TODO: Finish work and get reviews.  Hopefully, release and package also.
[15:29] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[15:29] <CardinalFang> vds, svp.
[15:29] <Chipaca> teknico: that would be web desktop+ desktop web standups, surely
[15:31] <CardinalFang> I think we'll need TeX markup to describe some of these.
[15:31] <teknico> Chipaca, you're the boss
[15:32] <teknico> DONE: more work on the Funambol deployment with mthaddon; landed more branches about the Funambol configuration and the funambol schema in the account database
[15:32] <teknico> TODO: making phone sync work
[15:32] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:32] <teknico> next: vds
[15:32] <vds> DONE: list-of-device branch landed, support to the deployment of funambol
[15:32] <vds> TODO: #523861 + file a couple of more bug
[15:32] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:33] <vds> EOM ?
[15:35] <dobey> me
[15:36] <rodrigo_> me
[15:36] <dobey> Chipaca: the term 'desktop' should be replaced with 'client' or something. at least until computers start to actually assimilate physical desks
[15:36] <Chipaca> dobey: I've actually worked on a computer that was a desk :)
[15:37] <Chipaca> if "writing a car race in basic" counts as "work"
[15:37] <Chipaca> EOM, it seems
[15:37] <rodrigo_> well, me missing :)
[15:37] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Music download progress in music store widget. Hardy lxml tests. Fixed url building in music store widget. Release libu1 0.2.1. Show photos of contacts in contacts picker. Fixed soversion in couchdb-glib and release 0.6.1. Released evo-couchdb 0.4.1
[15:37] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine? Add jslint tests to check. U1 client interrogates library page to update download progress. Dbus method for sharing with multiple contacts. & in note titles. Poll download status on music store. fix play-library sign
[15:37] <rodrigo_> al
[15:37] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:37] <rodrigo_> dobey, next?
[15:39] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Fixed lint issue, Added initial tab/notebook structure and quota widget to control panel, CP login requirement, CP quota info, Me menu integration, Accont info, Services tab, Release
[15:39] <dobey> ☹ TODO: New login UI pieces.
[15:39] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:39] <dobey> Chipaca: a crt under a glass desk doesn't make the desk a computer :)
[15:41] <Chipaca> dobey: this was a metal desk, with 8" floppies and a green crt
[15:41] <Chipaca> dobey: it was so old, they let *me* play with it
[15:47] <dobey> heh
[15:47] <beuno> hey
[15:47] <beuno> me
[15:48] <beuno> DONE: Lots of stuff with funambol deployment
[15:48] <beuno> TODO: Integrate vds's branch and finish the here-is-your-phone branch
[15:48] <beuno> BLOCKED: no
[15:49] <beuno> Chipaca, what time is standup normally?
[16:04] <Chipaca> beuno-lunch: normally @ 12
[16:24] <CardinalFang> I'm dismayed at how easily I can crash python via dbus module.
[16:25] <dobey> haha
[16:26] <dobey> Now you see why the Nautilus extension is in C
[16:30] <rye> dobey, nautilus extension can crash in gtk :-P
[16:30] <dobey> rye: stuff can still crash, sure. it crashed a LOT more often when it was in Python though
[16:30] <dobey> dbus would just crash randomly for no apparent reason
[16:30] <dobey> and it was insane to debug
[16:31] <dobey> embedded python in a C app is not fun to debug
[16:31] <dobey> anyway, lunch calls
[16:39] <rye> dobey, hm, if dbus is so crashy, then why is it _that_ crashy after several years of production... ah, CardinalFang meant that he crashed python process...
[17:32] <dobey> rye: python-dbus is pretty crashy
[17:40] <rye> * ubottu has quit (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) . Wow, someone really dislikes the logging daemon
[17:44] <bigpig> so, what was the upgrade?
[17:45] <beuno> bigpig, a lot of infrastructure for phone sync and music store
[17:45] <beuno> both of which you can't access yet  :)
[17:45] <beuno> a few minor tweaks to the web ui as well
[17:45] <beuno> fixed notes up a bit
[17:45] <bigpig> beuno: boo. ;)
[17:45] <beuno> and files should look a bit nicer
[17:46] <bigpig> beuno: I do like the fact that I'm not automatically logged in just because I'm on my computer, now.
[17:47] <dobey> not automatically logged in?
[17:48]  * dobey lands potentially pending branches, and then gets to coding
[17:48] <bigpig> In the past, when I went to the one.ubuntu.com web site, it said something to the effect of "you're imhavoc...." click to sign in....
[17:48] <dobey> guess I should install all these updates too
[17:49] <bigpig> no password, just the assumption that it was me setting at my keyboard.
[17:49] <dobey> that wasn't ubuntu one. that's you being logged into the openid provider, but not ubuntu one
[17:50] <bigpig> ah.... there it is... unless I manually log out, I still see that.
[18:20]  * rye needs X restart, will be back in a moment (or more if I am not so lucky)
[20:59] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: very nice work on improving the ubuntuone wiki! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne
[21:26] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: I thouhgt a FAQ would be useful based on input from and seeing certain questions come up a lot
[21:27] <duanedesign> if you can yhink of anything else or have any other input
[21:27] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: we should probably point people to the lp faq's though...i'm not thrilled with the lp faq ui but that is where we try to keep them (probably need to fill holes there, please let me know which ones you find & i can help fill)
[21:27] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: thats a good idea
[21:28] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/+faqs
[21:28] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: that'll get all the faqs for all u1 projects
[21:29] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: yeah definetly. No sense in duplication of effort :P)
[21:29] <duanedesign> ^^crazy smiley, lol
[22:06] <jeremydei> I'm trying to install and use ubuntuone from a console (no Xorg or gnome), is there a tutorial for that or is it really easy and someone can enlighten me?
[22:14] <duanedesign> jeremydei: We will eventually provide a more complete cli client that removes all the GNOME dependencies, but currently you cannot use Ubuntu One on a headless server
[22:17] <duanedesign> sorry got that response from a Tomboy note i have of answers to common questions. That shouldnt read 'we' as i am not a U1 dev. :)
[22:18] <jeremydei> cool, thx for the tip duanedesign
[22:18] <dobey> the royal we :)
[22:19] <duanedesign> dobey: you have made some icons for Tango?
[22:19] <dobey> duanedesign: yes
[22:19] <duanedesign> dobey: nice. I like them. Did you use inkscape?
[22:19] <dobey> yep
[22:21] <dobey> Inkscape is nice when it doesn't break. :)
[22:22] <duanedesign> i am having a hard time transitioning to inkscape from Adobe Illustrator. I use Illustrator everyday as a part of my job and the pen tools are very different
[22:25] <dobey> duanedesign: hang out in #tango and ask questions then, when the (real) artists are around
[22:27] <duanedesign> dobey: thanks for the tip
[22:28] <dobey> duanedesign: I know garrett used to complain about the differences between ai and inkscape all the time :)
[22:34] <sanderqd> so this hack works to make a chromium extension connect to the desktop couch :-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/575568/couch-extension.png
[22:36] <dobey> hrmm
[23:00] <L0neRanger> Can any one help? I seem to to be having a problem with signing on for Ubuntu one. I get "Unauthorized token" page after I click on the link that was sent to me when I registered with my email address.
[23:00] <L0neRanger> Browser: 5.0.307.9 beta on Ubuntu 9.10. Email: Gmail
[23:05]  * L0neRanger is AFK
[23:06]  * L0neRanger is AFK  and still waiting for assistance with Ubuntu One
[23:20]  * L0neRanger is back  and still waiting for assistance with Ubuntu One
[23:20] <L0neRanger> honk?!?
[23:26] <sanderqd> L0neRanger: if noone from the ubuntuone team appears, you should probably try to ask through launchpad
[23:33] <L0neRanger> sanderqd: Thanks!
[23:59] <duanedesign> L0neRanger: have you added your computer at https://one.ubuntu.com/account/