[00:01] <robin0800> ni1s: as long as the cursor is not flashing in the input line
[00:01] <ni1s> robin0800: ah, yeah, noticed that, not really what I was after
[00:03] <robin0800> ni1s: get the developers to give quassel the option of tabs
[00:03] <ni1s> heh
[00:12] <wizzy_> ok now this is weird
[00:13] <wizzy_> i did so many installations with kubuntu
[00:13] <wizzy_> now i am installing it on shuttle old pc
[00:13] <wizzy_> and installations hangs on 22%
[00:13] <wizzy_> i tried f4 to switch modes but still same think
[00:13] <wizzy_> no cursor nor nothing is moving
[00:59] <reng> Hi, will kde 4.4 be backported to kubuntu 9.10 in the main/multiverse repository? Or will it be done only for 10.4?
[01:15] <vbgunz_> seriously. I have a most annoying problem on 9.10 with KDE 4.4. Hibernation works. Suspending works. *but* When the system automatically suspends after an hour and I wake it up, it wakes up fine and shows me a prompt *but* goes back to sleep in 10-30 seconds... whats going on?
[01:32] <jc0694> will kubuntu by default recognize an external hard drivee on startup?  i'm having a problem where it doesn't.  i have to unplug and replug the hard drive in after startup for it to recognize it.  is this normal?
[01:46] <jschall> I'm using kubuntu with kde 4.4 and amarok installed from the package manager. Amarok does not progress to the next song in the playlist when it finishes playing a song.
[01:46] <jc0694> will kubuntu by default recognize an external hard drivee on startup?  i'm having a problem where it doesn't.  i have to unplug and replug the hard drive in after startup for it to recognize it.  is this normal?
[01:48] <wizzy_> ok my freshinstall kubuntu freezes everytime
[01:48] <wizzy_> its 9.10
[02:05] <MefhigosetH> @jc0694: I don't know if it is normal, but... Have you check your fstab or something similar ? Did you know about this file and her role in the system ?
[02:08] <wizzy_> so noone had same problem??
[02:08] <jc0694> ya i've played around with fstab but couldn't get it to work.  if plug the external hard drive in after the os starts it's fine, but if it's already plugged in at startup it won't see it.  is that an fstab issue?  sounds like it's another problem.
[02:09] <Daughain> jc0694: What kind of 'playing around' did you do with fstab?
[02:12] <jc0694> i went here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab at the beginning of the tutorial it says that flash/external hard drives are beyond the scope of fstab.  i followed the tutorial exactly but the external drive still would not be detected at startup
[02:13] <jc0694> i was tempted to install gnome volume manager but when i went to install it was gonna install like 150 different ubuntu library files and i don't want all those libraries on my pc for just the volume manger.  it may not even fix my problem
[02:13] <Daughain> WHat method did you use to define the drive path in fstab?
[02:15] <MefhigosetH> Ok, it's true... Maybe you can search in the systems logs for any error or warning. The system try to mount your device in boot time.
[02:16] <jc0694> i edited my fstab file exactly the way it said by finding my uuid (i forgot the command i used to find this) and I added a new line in the fstab.  didn't work.  i had hoped to get somebody's blessing from here on the format but nobody could help me at the time
[02:17] <sate> Hey guys,, a friend of mine wants to install kubuntu duel with his windows vista 64bit.  He has 6 gigs of ram, and he wants to know if kubuntu, will recognize and use those gigs of ram?
[02:17] <jc0694> i'm not sure if that fstab tutorial will actually mount external/flash drives however.  the warning at the beginning said that it could be done but would be beyond the scope of the tutorial.
[02:18] <Daughain> sate: Yes.
[02:18] <jc0694> ... and as stated i'm not installing gnome volume manger.
[02:19] <Daughain> jc0694: You may need to define the  complete path via /media instead of uuid method.
[02:19] <ni1s> in what package can I find knetattach?
[02:24] <jc0694> i'm not sure if that would work.... when the external hard drive is plugged in at startup and I try and find it by going to /media/.... it is not shown and there is absolutely no way i can access the device.  only when i unplug and replug does it see it.  sounds more like something running in the background is not working that should be monitoring usb connections.
[02:25] <Daughain> jc0694: OK, yeah...Thats beyond what little I know.
[02:27] <jc0694> ... i mean if you really think so i would try it since nothing else has worked... please don't just agree with me to agree with me.  does what I said really make sense?  i'm still very new to kubuntu and i'm sure you know more than i do.
[02:28] <SysWatcher> hello all
[02:28] <Daughain> jc0694: I'm agreeing because if it isnt shown in /media on boot, it prolly wont be found that way no matter what.. =( If I had another idea, I'd give it to ya. =)
[02:29] <Daughain> jc0694: I;ve onluy bene using ubuntu for a few months, so, dontg be too sure of that assumption. =)
[02:29] <Daughain> Morning, SysWatcher
[02:29] <SysWatcher> i have been using kubuntu for bout a year...i am gettin in this conversation kinda late...but what did u say?
[02:29] <Daughain> lol
[02:30] <Daughain> jc0694 is trying to get a usb mounted drive to mount from boot.
[02:30] <SysWatcher> i assume without editing the fstab?
[02:30] <Daughain> That didnt work.
[02:30] <Daughain> Already been tried.
[02:31] <Daughain> Or, at least, we sure dont know how to do it.=) I think I pointed him in the fstab direction before, actually.
[02:31] <SysWatcher> i have encountered some usb drives that dont show up at all...before or after boot
[02:31] <SysWatcher> and is usually true to brand name
[02:31] <jc0694> hmmmm.. i've tried a corsair flash drive and a western digital external hard drive.  both have same problem
[02:31] <Daughain> Well, ask jc0694, he knows the drtails. =)
[02:33] <SysWatcher> well...flash drives are hit and miss...but i have not had any problems with WD other than the Passport drives
[02:33] <jc0694> SysWatcher: the problem is that neither flash or external hard drive show when already plugged in on startup.  only by manually disconnecting and connecting will it see the drives.  when it doesn't see the drives I can't even access it manually by going to /media/....
[02:33] <SysWatcher> ahhh...
[02:33] <Daughain> Kinda where I stepped out. =)
[02:34] <SysWatcher> did you check your bios and make sure that "legacy USB Support" is on?
[02:34] <jc0694> ... so i don't think that manually adding the path in fstab would work if it can't see the drives even through /media/...
[02:34] <jc0694> NO... sounds like a good idea...
[02:35] <jc0694> how do i do that?
[02:35] <SysWatcher> try that....sometimes kernal doesnt pick up mice because sytem doesnt recognise it till OS takes over...
[02:35] <MefhigosetH> @jc0694: Or you can create a startup scrip that mount the drive...
[02:35] <SysWatcher> true that
[02:35] <jc0694> i access the bios at startup correct?
[02:36] <SysWatcher> normally u press command or function key upon boot up...usually f2
[02:36] <SysWatcher> yes
[02:36] <SysWatcher> then go through the menus....normally under system
[02:36] <SysWatcher> find the proper switch...turn on..
[02:36] <SysWatcher> save and exit
[02:43] <jc0694> many thanks
[02:47] <Zoot365> Hi.  I want to share a drive with the rest of the people on my our lan. What do I need to know?  And does it matter that two of them are MS?
[02:53] <jc0694> i'm back... legacy support is on... i have windows xp also installed on this laptop and it has no problem detecting the external hard drive and flash drives...
[02:53] <jc0694> ... on startup that is
[02:54] <jc0694> legacy usb support that is
[02:56] <jc0694> what is kinda quirky is that i have a wireless usb mouse  plugged in and it never has a problem detecting that on startup.  weird
[03:01] <ni1s> what do I need for amarok to be able to play mp3 files?
[03:09] <agb> ni1s: sudo apt-get install rithmbox
[03:09] <agb> xD
[03:09] <scobert> sudo apt-get install amarok?
[03:09] <agb> well.. sorry, but i love rithmbox :D
[03:10] <scobert> haha. tryed songbird?
[03:10] <agb> no
[03:11] <scobert> its nice. doesn't have the kde integration like amarok but i like it. it has a banshee itunes feel to it.
[03:11] <agb> :o
[03:11] <agb> let me try
[03:11] <scobert> packages on getdeb.net
[03:11] <agb> sudo apt-get songbird?
[03:11] <agb> ahhaha
[03:11] <agb> :S:S:S
[03:11] <scobert> yeah first you have to add repo. but getdeb has nice packages
[03:12] <agb> ok ok
[03:30] <da> So, should I get a new computer with windows on it?
[03:30] <scobert> what do you want it to do?
[03:31] <scobert> da: if your looking for a new computer, you can buy with or without linux. usaully the linux ones are cheaper
[03:44] <David_HII> anyone with experience with intel video cards and resolution issues?
[04:00] <SysWatcher> hody...im back
[04:00] <SysWatcher> i mean howdy
[04:03] <jc0694> SysWatcher: hey i went into the bios.  it was set to automatically detect usb.  i have xp also installed on this laptop and it can see flash/external hard drive fine.
[04:13] <cbwcjw> So, how does one mount a windows share from KDE
[04:14] <cbwcjw> I want to watch a movie stored on a windows home server but cant through samba
[04:17] <SysWatcher> its easy...go to your file manager...and in the address bar...and enter the ip followed by the name of the drive (ie:    smb://192.168.1.X/public/)
[04:18] <SysWatcher> where X is the number of the specific drives address
[04:18] <SysWatcher> and public is the name of the shares drive
[04:27] <SysWatcher> hmmmm....d3 in kubuntu?
[04:28] <SysWatcher> oy vey
[05:43] <John_Grimshaw> Hello, does anyone know how to get a Telstra BigPond 7.2 Mf636 working with Kubuntu 9.10 ? (fully updated to KDE 4.4)
[06:04] <jschall> with kde 4.4 installed from the kubuntu backports ppa, trying to upgrade google-chrome-beta from 5.0.307.7-r38400 to 5.0.307.9-r39052 errors out: google-chrome-beta: Depends: lsb (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <e_t_> jschall: what command are you using?
[06:07] <jschall> sudo apt-get install google-chrome gives the error, sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade just says its held back
[06:08] <e_t_> try sudo aptitude -s full-upgrade (the -s will keep it from actually doing anything)
[06:11] <jschall> e_t_: same thing
[06:12] <jschall> e_t_: maybe not
[06:12] <jschall> e_t_: yeah same thuing
[06:12] <jschall> e_t_: yeah same thing
[06:13] <e_t_> full-upgrade should do (or at least show you) whatever needs to be done to install the updates.
[06:13] <jschall> libqt4-gui: Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.1-1ubuntu2~karmic1~ppa2 is installed.
[06:13] <jschall> and it isn't available
[06:13] <jschall> libqtgui4 is the latest version.
[06:14] <e_t_> That's very interesting. I've got 4.4 and Chrome updated for me in the past few days with no problems.
[06:14] <jschall> so i have broken packages?
[06:14] <jschall> wait
[06:14] <jschall> somehow kubuntu ppa backports got removed
[06:14] <jschall> =/
[06:15] <e_t_> That's probably the source of your problem.
[06:15] <jschall> does "99% [Waiting for headers]" take a year for you?
[06:16] <jschall> e_t_: yeah i'm sure it is i'm working on it now its just the apt-get update takes a loooong time
[06:16] <e_t_> yes. I think either Google or Sourceforge have a slow server or something.
[06:16] <John_Grimshaw> Hello, does anyone know how to get a Telstra BigPond 7.2 Mf636 working with Kubuntu 9.10 ? (fully updated to KDE 4.4)
[06:16] <jschall> e_t_: i lost power while upgrading a while back
[06:16] <jschall> e_t_: so its been messed up for a bit
[06:16] <e_t_> jschall: That can definitely mess things up.
[06:17] <jschall> e_t_: i wish it hadn't lost it while i was installing. if it would just do it while the download was going it would've been better
[06:17] <jschall> yep, there we are, its upgrading
[06:17] <e_t_> John_Grimshaw: what is a Telstra BigPond?
[06:17] <John_Grimshaw> It seems the MF636 is a real pain... haven't had this kind of trouble with other wirless modems
[06:17] <John_Grimshaw> e_t_: Australian ISP
[06:18] <John_Grimshaw> e_t_: Sorry I mean its a ZTE MF636
[06:19] <e_t_> John_Grimshaw: you are having trouble connecting to a router?
[06:20] <John_Grimshaw> e_t_: its a wireless 3G modem
[06:20] <jschall> fullscreen flash is really choppy. i tried upgrading to the prerelease version. i'm running 64 bit kubuntu with kde 4.4, google chrome. haven't tried it in firefox.
[06:21] <John_Grimshaw> e_t_: Its actually for someone else, I'm trying to get it working for him, but he needs his notebook now so I'll have to call it quits and try again tomorrow.
[06:22] <jschall> oh, and its only choppy when the video controls are shown and ESPECIALLY when they're moused over
[06:22] <e_t_> Is that the 64bit flash alpha?
[06:22] <jschall> and yeah same deal in firefox
[06:22] <jschall> yes
[06:22] <jschall> same deal with the older flash too
[06:23] <e_t_> It might be the alpha-ness.
[06:23] <jschall> but it didn't used to happen. i don't know when it started.
[06:23] <jschall> it doesn't change if i turn off compositing
[06:24] <e_t_> What video card?
[06:24] <jschall> why can't adobe just open source flash?
[06:24] <jschall> 8800gts
[06:24] <jschall> its literally the worst piece of software on the planet
[06:25] <e_t_> I don't know. Windows could give it a run for it's money ;)
[06:25] <jschall> is there a good alternative to flash?
[06:26] <jschall> how's swfdec and such these days?
[06:26] <jschall> News: 2008-12-21 Swfdec 0.8.4
[06:26] <jschall> riiiight.
[06:26] <jschall> anything updated in the last 2 years?
[06:26] <e_t_> I haven't kept up on them. Everything I've read in the past has been "A for effort".
[06:27] <e_t_> There's also Gnash.
[06:29] <e_t_> The old way to get flash on 64bit was to use nspluginwrapper, right? Do you remove/disable that for native 64bit flash?
[06:30] <jschall> i'm going to try gnash
[06:30] <jschall> e_t_: i've never had to deal with nspluginwrapper. Must be done automatically.
[06:31] <jussi01> jschall: Ive heard swf dec is quite nice in karmic
[06:31] <jussi01> not tried it myself though
[06:31] <jschall> swfdec hasn't been updated in 2 years.
[06:31] <jschall> i'm trying gnash
[06:32] <jussi01> jschall: Id be suprised if thats the case
[06:33] <jschall> aaaand it didn't work at all
[06:33] <jschall> all i need is youtube and youporn to work!
[06:34] <jussi01> jschall: Im pretty sure youtube works with the current swfdec
[06:35] <jussi01> jschall: but you realise youtube now comes in non flash?
[06:35] <jschall> yeah but can't do fullscreen
[06:35] <jschall> i'd rather have slow fullscreen than no fullscreen
[06:38] <jschall> for some reason my volume control disappeared :(
[06:38] <jschall> can't wait for 10.04, should fix a lot of the little issues in 4.4
[07:45] <mefisto__> text-to-speech is not quite working for me. every phrase stops early, about 5-10 words before the end
[08:53] <titan_ark> anyone around?
[09:13] <spacitymedic> hELLO!
[09:13] <james_l> Hi
[09:14] <spacitymedic> I  need some help with compiz fusion.... I cant get the cube to work... not sure what I did wrong. I've set my desktop settings so that desktop effects are enabled...  ut how exactly do I rotate the cube.... I'm new to linux... just totally confused about what I need to do.. any help out there?
[09:16] <spacitymedic> anyone?
[09:17] <titan_ark> spacitymedic, use ctrl+alt+left_mouse_button and move mouse to see the effect
[09:18] <spacitymedic> I am doing that and I see no change.
[09:18] <spacitymedic>  It just starts highlighting the text here in the window
[09:20] <titan_ark> spacitymedic, you need to check the settings in compiz then, open compiz manager and in desktop heading select the cube and rotate cube option. also you need to have set 4 desktops before you see it working
[09:20] <spacitymedic> Ok....
[09:21] <spacitymedic> remind me again how to set 4 desktops...
[09:21] <spacitymedic> nevermind
[09:21] <spacitymedic>  I just checked and I already have 4.
[09:21] <titan_ark> okay good
[09:21] <titan_ark> open compiz manager
[09:22] <spacitymedic> open
[09:22] <titan_ark> go to desktop
[09:22] <titan_ark> select Desktop cube and Rotate Cube options
[09:23] <spacitymedic> ok
[09:23] <titan_ark> Then Under effects select 3D windows
[09:23] <titan_ark> Were they selected?
[09:23] <titan_ark> or did you do it now?
[09:23] <spacitymedic> desktop cube and rotate are selected
[09:23] <titan_ark> Then Under effects select 3D windows
[09:23] <spacitymedic> ok
[09:24] <titan_ark> done?
[09:24] <spacitymedic> they were selected
[09:24] <titan_ark> oh
[09:24] <titan_ark> do you get the wobble effect when you move windows?
[09:25] <spacitymedic> no
[09:25] <spacitymedic>  hang on lemme get this straight. are these the ONLY options that need to be selected?
[09:25] <titan_ark> go to appearance
[09:25] <titan_ark> ywah
[09:25] <titan_ark> *yeah
[09:26] <titan_ark> Go to System > Preferences > Appearance
[09:26] <titan_ark> In visual effects tab what do you see?
[09:26] <spacitymedic> ok wait
[09:27] <spacitymedic> i click on system and i dont see preferences or appearence
[09:27] <spacitymedic> i have system settings
[09:27] <spacitymedic> same deal?
[09:28] <titan_ark> i am in gnome now, so dunno what it is on kde. do you get the visual effects tab?
[09:28] <Vroomfondle> that's the bit you want, yes
[09:28] <titan_ark> you need to set it to extra
[09:28] <spacitymedic> yeah hang on
[09:28] <Vroomfondle> (why're you using compiz, by the way? KDE has its own compositing stuff now... )
[09:29] <spacitymedic> well... i didnt know that...
[09:29] <spacitymedic>  i'm using kubuntu// are you on xubuntu?
[09:29] <Vroomfondle> spacitymedic: if you're on Kubuntu Karmic or Kubuntu Jaunty, you've got KDE4, which has its own compositor
[09:29] <spacitymedic> Oh ok.. cause I go to the window effects thing and it doesnt do anything
[09:30] <Vroomfondle> check System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects (might have to uninstall compiz first)
[09:30] <Vroomfondle> oh, right
[09:30] <spacitymedic> they never worked BEFORE i had compiz
[09:30] <Vroomfondle> you got the right graphics drivers installed etc.? For some cards you need to install the binary nvidia/ati driver, for instance
[09:31] <spacitymedic> not sure
[09:31] <spacitymedic>  is there any kind of update in konsole i can do?
[09:32] <Vroomfondle> spacitymedic: what graphics card do you have?
[09:32] <spacitymedic> not sure. how do I find out?
[09:32] <spacitymedic> i have an hp pavillion entertainment pc Dv7
[09:32] <Vroomfondle> use "lspci" in a terminal and look for anything which mentions VGA
[09:33] <spacitymedic> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[09:33] <spacitymedic> that right?
[09:33] <Vroomfondle> yeah, Radeon 3200
[09:34] <spacitymedic> Im so sorry that Im so stupid with linux.... i really do appreciate your helping me...
[09:34] <Vroomfondle> okay... I think there's a howto page that tells you how to install the binary drivers (they're called "FGLRX")
[09:34] <Vroomfondle> !ati
[09:34] <Vroomfondle> no problem. We're all newbies at some point :)
[09:35] <Vroomfondle> so follow that howto page. Begin with the "basic instructions" - that's the easy method. If that fails, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.
[09:36] <spacitymedic> OK COOL IM FOLLOWING THE STEPS ON THAT PAGE
[09:36] <spacitymedic>  BACK TO YOU IN A FEW
[09:36] <Vroomfondle> in theory, once you've installed the binary drivers, the Desktop Effects stuff in KDE *should* work (or failing that, Compiz should work)
[09:37] <spacitymedic> OK I WAS SHOWN THE DRIVERS AVAILABLE.. THEY ARE NOT ACTIVE. I CLICKED ACTIVATE.. NOTHING HAPPENED
[09:38] <Vroomfondle> Okay. Probably best not to type in capitals by the way - some people here think it's rude.
[09:38] <Vroomfondle> anyway, you may have to try the second link I gave you then
[10:41] <steveire> Hi. When I try ulimit -n 65536 I don't have permission, and when I use sudo I get command not found. When I do sudo su and then do it, the command works, but does not have any effect. ulimit -n still reports 1024 in my regular user. How do I fix this?
[10:43] <jussi01> steveire: tried sudo -i then the command? (better than sudo -su)
[10:45] <steveire> jussi01: Tried this: http://www.ubun2.com/question/433/how_set_ulimit_ubuntu_linux_getting_sudo_ulimit_command_not_found_error
[10:46] <ev0sx1> folks, anybody know of a way to stop windows apps runing on wine accessing the web?
[10:52] <Kolia> krunner not showing up when I hit "alt+f2"
[10:52] <Kolia> any idea how to launch it?
[10:52] <Kolia> (typing krunner in console does nothing)
[11:00] <Main> Noob question, but how am I suposed to install software on Kubuntu 9.10 I found KPackageKit, but I'm a little confused by it, is there something simpler?
[11:01] <Kolia> Main: this is supposed to be the simple way :)
[11:01] <Kolia> another way is from a console: sudo apt-get install whatyouwanttoinstall
[11:02] <Main> Yeah, I know
[11:02] <Main> I'm just not sure which packages I need
[11:02] <Main> I'm trying to get clamav installed on a flashdrive so I can save windows XP
[11:32] <lalalol> hi, who wants to PM about Kopete?
[11:32] <Tm_T> you can ask your question in channel, better chance that someone who knows will answer
[11:32] <Mamarok> lalalol: please ask in #kubuntu-offtopic, this does not belong here
[11:32] <lalalol> ok Mamarok, sorry, my bad
[11:32] <Mamarok> or that
[11:33] <Mamarok> lalalol: if you have a question, please ask it here, for chatting it would be in -offtopic
[11:33] <lalalol> oh
[11:34] <lalalol> foolish me lol, ok, here i go, when i open kopete, i can already see my msn contact list, ive searched how to only show it when my pass is correctly typed but cant find it
[11:44] <youcef> hello
[11:46] <youcef> hellooooooooooooooooo
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[11:46] <youcef> wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:46] <youcef> wooooooooooooooo
[11:46] <youcef> woooooooooooo
[11:46] <FloodBotK1> youcef: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <youcef> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:46] <shadeslayer> youcef: hello
[11:47] <youcef> hello
[11:48] <lalalol> so no-one knows? :(
[11:48] <shadeslayer> lalalol: knows about what?
[11:48] <Mamarok> lalalol: sorry, I don't use MSN
[11:49] <lalalol> shadeslayer, when i open kopete, i can already see my msn contact list, ive searched how to only show it when my pass is correctly typed but cant find it
[11:50] <shadeslayer> lalalol: oh yeah,that happens to me as well... did you just remove a account?
[11:51] <lalalol_> shadeslayer, yeah i think so, i tried setting up a skype acc on kopete cuz skype 2.1 beta is too buggy and then removed it
[11:51] <lalalol_> sorry, got dc'ed
[11:51] <ubuntu> i just tried to install kubuntu in my friend's system with intel dual core processor, the display went black and didnt come
[11:52] <Mamarok> ubuntu: how did you install it?
[11:52] <Mamarok> You mighthave some packages missing, check the kdeworkspace and plasma packages
[11:52] <ubuntu> Mamarok: i didnt install, i just tried to boot from the system
[11:53] <Mamarok> ah, then it's likely a hardware problem that doesn't allow to install it
[11:53] <ubuntu> now iam from the same kubuntu 9.10 live cd , but from my system
[11:53] <Mamarok> the CD works on other systems?
[11:53] <Mamarok> OK
[11:56] <shadeslayer> lalalol_: yeah i think thats a bug
[11:56] <lalalol_> ill report it, its not funny :p
[11:56] <tew88_> I've just done a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.10 and I'm having trouble getting shortcuts into my Desktop folder. Dragging and dropping just creates a Widget on the main screen... but I'm sure I've done it before
[11:57] <tew88_> I've just done a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.10 and I'm having trouble getting shortcuts into my Desktop folder. Dragging and dropping just creates a Widget on the main screen... but I'm sure I've done it before
[11:58] <shadeslayer> tew88_: right click on desktop > Desktop settings > Folder view
[12:03] <thumbers> I've just done a fresh install of Kubuntu and am having difficulty placing shortcuts in my Desktop folder. Dragging and dropping from the Applications menu just places the icons on my home screen as widgets, yet I'm sure I've been able to get the desired effect before. Any ideas?
[12:04] <shadeslayer> thumbers: right click on desktop > Desktop settings > Folder view
[12:05] <ubuntu> how can i makle that microblogging applet in desktop to see my friend's tweets, now it is showing my ownh
[12:06] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: hmm well it doesnt show previous tweets
[12:06] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: just new tweers
[12:06] <shadeslayer> *tweets
[12:06] <ubuntu> it is just showing my own time lline
[12:07] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: i would suggest using choqok
[12:09] <ubuntu> whats the use of seeing my own timeline
[12:10] <thumbers> shadeslayer: Apparently that's not changed anything. I'm still experiencing the same functionality as before when I right-click and application and "Add to Desktop"
[12:11] <shadeslayer> thumbers: KDE 4.4?
[12:11] <thumbers> I think so. The default with 9.10 anyway.
[12:11] <shadeslayer> thumbers: the default isnt 4.4 .... its 4.3
[12:12] <thumbers> So I need to update it somehow?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> thumbers: well not if you want the  latest version... right click > Desktop Settings > Activity > Folder view should do it
[12:13] <shadeslayer> thumbers: then close the folder view widget and you should be good to go
[12:15] <thumbers> shadeslayer: Ah, I think I'm explaining my problem poorly. I _do_ want the Desktop view. I'd like to drop a view widgets around. But I'd like my application shortcuts to appear in my Desktop folder (and I've placed -actually it was done by default for me- a folder view panel pointing to /home/Desktop/ there)
[12:15] <thumbers> drop a few widgets*
[12:16] <shadeslayer> thumbers: oh.. well you can put both widgets and icons in the folder view... just dont drag and drop the icons from the folder view widget
[12:23] <thumbers> shadeslayer: Everything's working as desired now. It was being a bit strange, but thanks for your help =)
[12:23] <shadeslayer> thumbers: no problem :)
[12:24] <fstl> Hi all, how can i join another channels? I am new to this Kubunut and got this irc default
[12:32] <robin0800> fstl:  /join #channel
[12:44] <jellonut> is it possible to have my /home/Music folder refer to my ntfs partition's Music folder (at /media/disk/Music)?
[12:44] <shadeslayer> jellonut: yep
[12:44] <shadeslayer> jellonut: i think you have to use ln -s
[12:44] <shadeslayer> jellonut: ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME
[12:45] <shadeslayer> jellonut: so first remove the music folder and then : ls -s /path/to/Music Music/
[12:50] <boesmans> bmo pal
[12:51] <jellonut> thanks shadeslayer
[12:52] <shadeslayer> jellonut: no problem :)
[12:56] <boesmans> bmo chi
[12:57] <vboogieman> hey i have a networking question
[12:58] <shadeslayer> vboogieman: shoot
[13:17] <Zorael> Is there any way to resolve an inode or a block to what file it represents? I'm getting loads and loads of harddisk activity from Konversation, and I'm trying to figure out what it's actually doing.
[13:17] <boesmans> heist chi pm
[13:17] <Mamarok> boesmans: what are you ding?
[13:17] <Mamarok> doing*
[13:18] <boesmans> lol sry Mamarok :p
[13:18] <boesmans> Strange.. I asmg'd on another server, and it came around here -_-
[13:25] <shadeslayer> i want to run a command every 15 mins or so... how do i do that?
[13:28] <Kolia> shadeslayer: man cron
[13:28] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:35] <piccoletta2_> list
[13:36] <piccoletta2_> !1list
[13:36] <fstl> how to change the nick?
[13:37] <Vroomfondle> fstl: /nick mynick
[13:41] <kjeldahl> I've got dual screens. I set it up using System Settings. But KDE never remembers. Have to do it every time after login. Any ideas?
[13:43] <thed3vnu11> hello every 1
[13:43] <miniBill>  When I try to update with synaptic (or aptitude) it trows me a helluva of errors
[13:43] <thed3vnu11> anyone know why there are no file associations set on Kubuntu with FIrefox?  Wth?
[13:43] <thed3vnu11> Shouldn't that be by default?
[13:43] <shadeslayer> !dual | kjeldahl
[13:44] <kjeldahl> shadeslayer: Eh?
[13:44] <ghostcube> kjeldahl: has not worked :)
[13:44] <shadeslayer> jtheuer: just trying to find the factoid
[13:44] <darthanubis> opendesktop widget broken, can anyone confirm that login does not work with correct user info?
[13:45] <explore> cant i get chat in gtalk on kubuntu9.10?
[13:45] <shadeslayer> explore: yes you can
[13:45] <ghostcube> kjeldahl: you could set it direct in youre xorg.conf
[13:45] <shadeslayer> !twinview | kjeldahl
[13:45] <explore> how? i dont see..
[13:45] <kjeldahl> Dual works great here, alpha 2, using open source radeon.
[13:45] <ghostcube> shadeslayer: wrong 50 %
[13:45] <ghostcube> :D
[13:45] <shadeslayer> ghostcube: eh?
[13:45] <ghostcube> he has ati :)
[13:46] <kjeldahl> Upgraded from Karmic, when it stopped reading the setup from my xorg.conf file. Works when I set it from system settings. But I have to redo it after each login.
[13:46] <explore> shadeslayer: any clue for me?
[13:46] <ghostcube> kjeldahl: can you pastebin youre xorg.conf
[13:46] <ghostcube> -e
[13:46] <kjeldahl> Sure. It's butt ugly (lots of testing), but I'll give you what I have.
[13:47] <shadeslayer> explore: one sec
[13:47] <kjeldahl> http://pastebin.com/m739a4315
[13:47] <shadeslayer> explore: http://www.google.co.in/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=gtalk+in+kopete
[13:48] <kjeldahl> ghostcube: But be warned. It seemed to ignore the whole dual screen thing in there after upgrading to Lucid.
[13:49] <sate> I'm having some issues with my microphone
[13:49] <explore> what is kopete?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> explore: IM client
[13:50] <shadeslayer> explore: press alt+F2 and type kopete
[13:50] <sate> I installed recordmydesktop, and when I record and play back, i can barely hear the mic
[13:50] <sate> Any ideas?
[13:50] <Fanfare> explore: multiprotcol instant messanger
[13:50] <shadeslayer> sate: i cant even use the mike... buffer overflow errors :P
[13:50] <shadeslayer> explore: now even supports FB via XMPP
[13:51] <Fanfare> sate: try alsamixer in konsole...
[13:52] <sate> cheers
[13:53] <sate> k now when I play back Fanfare it skips
[13:54] <Fanfare> sate: skips=too loud?
[13:55] <sate> kk
[13:55] <sate> thanks
[13:56] <ghostcube> kjeldahl: iam not the ati uru but is modul dri needed if modul dri2 is loaded
[13:57] <kjeldahl> ghostcube: I have no idea. I doubt that has anything to do with the dual screen thing though, but as you've seen my xorg.conf is a shameless copy & paste job from others...
[14:01] <sate> Fanfare:  I'm still getting  some skipping, what are the perfect settings for the mic?
[14:01] <ghostcube> kjeldahl: hmm i havent used ati fo a long time i cant really help here and iam not on lucid so far
[14:04] <kjeldahl> ghostcube: Ok, thanks for trying anyway.
[14:05] <ghostcube> i think its anything inside youre xorg.conf
[14:05] <ghostcube> have you tried with a blank one ?
[14:06] <Fanfare> sate: for actual recording mute mic, set recording from mic and level to medium,
[14:06] <Fanfare> sate: also check if u have a mic boost switch...
[14:07] <sate> how do you do that?
[14:08] <sate> i accidently removed advanced settings on my sound icon setup
[14:09] <Fanfare> sate: well, alsamixer shows you all channels... good to find apropriate mic channels...
[14:09] <Fanfare> and switches
[14:10] <sate> How do I get my settings back on my sound icon?
[14:10] <sate> Theres some mic settings I need to adjust
[14:10] <Zorael> How do I set Konqueror to use and keep using webkit? It just reverts to KHTML when I browse to a new page.
[14:11] <Fanfare> sate: u have kmix running in panel? rightclick show mixer
[14:11] <sate> Yeah there's supposed to be a advanced settings
[14:12] <sate> but I removed it acciedently
[14:12] <Fanfare> hm, i dont know advanced settings in kmix...
[14:13] <sate> The file settings and help were gone
[14:13] <sate> its okay I just restarted the app
[14:14] <Fanfare> sate: <ctrl>+<m> hides shows menu!
[14:19] <Mamarok> Zorael: you need to set webkit to default, else it is only a per-page setting
[14:23] <Zorael> Mamarok: Where do I do this? I thought I just had to save a new View Profile, but that doesn't seem to make it stick. And I can't find it in the normal Konqueror options.
[14:23] <Mamarok> hm, I need to have a look, just a moment
[14:28] <Mamarok> Zorael: I couldn't find it neither, you might want to ask in #kde
[14:29] <Zorael> Mamarok: All right, thanks
[14:29] <Mamarok> Zorael: you are welcome :)
[14:35] <turtle^s0up> is there a way to use something else besides "xterm" in Konsole?
[14:38] <Vroomfondle> turtle^s0up: you mean like vt100 etc?
[14:38] <turtle^s0up> yes
[14:39] <turtle^s0up> aterm or mrxvt
[14:40] <turtle^s0up> the reason i ask is because konsole is having an issue rendering a font, the terminal text gets cutt of with it for some strange reason
[14:40] <turtle^s0up> off*
[14:40] <Vroomfondle> Oh, you mean actually use another terminal emulator program *inside* konsole?
[14:42] <Mamarok> turtle^s0up: check the profile settings, you can change the terminal mode there
[14:42] <Vroomfondle> that only changes the keybindings etc. though - doesn't have anything to do with font rendering.
[14:46] <turtle^s0up> Vroomfondle: sorry, I got disconnected.
[14:46] <turtle^s0up> so i'm speculating the font rendering space limitations is an issue with xterm
[14:47] <Vroomfondle> but... xterm isn't konsole
[14:47] <Vroomfondle> the two are separate
[14:47] <turtle^s0up> so why does under Environment it says "xterm" ?
[14:49] <turtle^s0up> Vroomfondle: if the issues isn't with xterm what do you think it is, Konsole?
[14:49] <Vroomfondle> turtle^s0up: because it pretends to be an xterm
[14:50] <Vroomfondle> some CLI apps/scripts check the env vars to see what terminal type you have, and change their output accordingly to look right
[14:51] <Vroomfondle> anyway yes, Konsole itself I reckon
[14:51] <Vroomfondle> tried fiddling with the fonts in Settings -> Edit Current profile?
[14:52] <turtle^s0up> Vroomfondle: thanks for the info. I'm in font settings, there's little I can do there
[14:52] <Vroomfondle> try changing the font?
[14:52] <turtle^s0up> yes, changing the font helps
[14:52] <turtle^s0up> it doesn'ts cut it off
[14:53] <turtle^s0up> but i want to use a specific font type
[14:53] <sixzerofour|jps> how do i setup the cd so i can install from the cdrom of my laptop?
[14:53] <turtle^s0up> "Inconsolata"
[14:59] <ni1s> sixzerofour|jps: how do you mean?
[14:59] <sixzerofour|jps> i found it
[14:59] <sixzerofour|jps> just burning an iso onto a cd
[14:59] <sixzerofour|jps> lol
[15:00] <ni1s> yeah
[15:00] <ni1s> hhehe
[15:01] <jussi01> how does one change which application opens rtsp streams? (xdg open)
[15:02]  * ni1s removes amarok
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ni1s, you might lose half your kubuntu-dektop
[15:03] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[15:03] <ni1s> BluesKaj: only amarok got removed
[15:03] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: not, if the dependencies points to amarok-common as they should
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, ok , things have changed then , I recall trying to remove amarok a while back , probly on edgy  where most of kubuntu-desktop was about to be removed as well :)
[15:17] <shadeslayer> how do i pipe a command o/p and append it to a txt file?
[15:18] <ni1s> shadeslayer: mycommand &>>/path/to/myfile.txt
[15:19] <ni1s> shadeslayer: note the double ">", using only one will overwrite the file with just the output of the that command
[15:20] <shadeslayer> ni1s: ah thanks :)
[15:20] <shadeslayer> ni1s: whats the & for?
[15:21] <llutz> shadeslayer: man bash (/redirection)
[15:22] <ni1s> the ampersand can do all sorts of stuff, here its used to redirect output
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:23] <shadeslayer> ni1s: and what if i also need the time along with that command?
[15:26] <llutz> date >>/path/to/myfile.tx
[15:26] <ni1s> shadeslayer: depends on how you want it
[15:26] <ni1s> yeah
[15:27] <shadeslayer> ni1s: llutz i want it like : Date (new line) sensors
[15:28] <llutz> date >>/path/to/myfile.txt ;sensors &>>/path/to/myfile.tx
[15:28] <ct529> I am trying to use get_iplayer under kubuntu .... I do not seem to be able to catch programs by pid ....
[15:29] <llutz> shadeslayer: or (date ; sensors)>file.foo
[15:31] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:31] <shadeslayer> llutz: brackets too?
[15:32] <llutz> y
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:33] <nevalain> Can anyone help? My system freezes all the time, system load jumps to 100%, but processes in process table look normal?
[15:39] <ni1s> nevalain: use a pastebin and there paste mylog.txt generated from "top -b d3 -n1 > mylog.txt"
[15:39] <ni1s> nevalain: when the system freezes that is
[15:40] <nevalain> nils: Roger.
[15:42] <thacious> I feel stupid, I tried to install a better sound driver and now it says i removed my sound device and it wants to remove it from the list in multimedia settings
[15:42] <shadeslayer> thacious: thats just KDE's way of saying hey i found new devices and lost some old ones
[15:43] <thacious> yeah except it didn't find new ones, I'm sure i fell asleep looking for it and i'm sure i screwed somthing up in the process
[15:44] <ddurham_> so .. I have a package on hold with 'aptitude hold some_package' but kpackagekit still lists the package in the list of "can be upgraded"
[15:44] <ddurham_> anyway to fix this?
[15:44] <ddurham_> i.e., if I have a package on hold, I don't want it in the list of packages that kpackagekit will upgrade
[15:45] <chinito> hola..
[15:45] <chinito> spanish
[15:46] <thacious> is there an easy fix or graphic utility that can search and auto configure my sound again?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> thacious: kmix or alsamixer in konsole?
[15:47] <nevalain> ni1s: http://pastebin.com/f2eebf8af
[15:50] <nile> Hi i'm just trying out Kubuntu / KDE from Ubuntu / Gnome and my updater cannot refresh as it says the package list needs to be rebuilt - HELP!!
[15:50] <thacious> I was trying that earlier but audio device 0 isn't found, i'm a big ol nub so I'm not sure
[15:51] <wizkoder> moin
[15:51] <ni1s> nevalain: looks good
[15:51] <ni1s> nevalain: are you sure its the CPU that's hogging all the resources?
[15:51] <nile> Hi i'm just trying out Kubuntu / KDE from Ubuntu / Gnome and my updater cannot refresh as it says the package list needs to be rebuilt - HELP!!
[15:51] <thacious> the lshw -C sound comes up with multimedia unclaimed
[15:52] <James147> nile: what "updater" are you using?
[15:52] <wesley__> does someone also have a new dell studio 1558 notebook? because my sound isnt working
[15:52] <nile> The default KPackage Kit
[15:52] <kubian> nile: it's better to try the live cd for kubuntu
[15:53] <wesley__> live cd cant test everything
[15:53] <kubian> than in gnome
[15:53] <ni1s> nevalain: Hows the HDD activity when this happens?
[15:53] <James147> nile: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "sudo aptitude update"?
[15:53] <nile> what do you mena
[15:53] <nile> mean
[15:53] <nevalain> ni1s: How do you mean? I'am not sure. KDE System monitor shows that both CPUs take 100%.  Htop does not show 100%.
[15:53] <kubian> wesley_: he just want to try not test anything
[15:54] <James147> nile: run the command "sudo aptitude update" from konsole and copy and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:55] <ni1s> nevalain: odd
[15:55] <nevalain> ni1s: iotop does not show anything unusual.
[15:56] <wesley__> oh okay, I though my sound worked but it doesnt
[15:56] <wesley__> I already rejected the windows eula, dell refunds the software
[15:58] <nevalain> nils: Very. I'm using RAID-1 and KDE System monitor says "disk sleep" instead of "cpu bar". I'm not sure if this is odd.
[15:59] <thacious> so...what do i do with this unclaimed multimedia thing?
[15:59] <nevalain> ni1s: I mean "disk sleep" instead of cpu percentage in process table.
[16:00] <thacious> alsa recognized it last night, but i broke it when i was trying to fix a low volume problem
[16:00] <monk> hi
[16:00] <seb__> hi
[16:00] <wesley__> first the ati driver works but now not
[16:01] <esther> hi
[16:01] <seb__> I'm French
[16:01] <seb__> you ?
[16:01] <monk> anybody knows how i can fix the wlan problem with lin-x1.1 on an amilo a1650g
[16:01] <esther> PANAMANIAM
[16:02] <seb__> ok
[16:03] <monk> anybody knows how i can fix the wlan problem with lin-x1.1 on an amilo a1650g
[16:07] <thacious> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto) I was following this site but now (cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec) doesn't come up with anything
[16:08] <thacious> might've messed somthing up in alsa-base.conf but reinstalling alsa didn't fix it
[16:10] <vbgunz_> does anybody know whats going on!?? when I wake my pc up from suspension, 10 seconds after waking up it suspends again. why!?
[16:11] <vbgunz_> this is not some continous loop. it automatically suspends 10 seconds after waking up when it falls to sleep automatically after 60 seconds'
[16:11] <nevalain> ni1s: nils: Very. I'm using RAID-1 and KDE System monitor says "disk sleep" instead of "cpu bar". I'm not sure if this is odd.
[16:13] <llutz> vbgunz_: use acpi_listen to check if there are some events after waking up
[16:13] <nevalain> ni1s: Any ideas? Thanks for your help. I think I need to go to Gentoo side to test if this is about hardware.
[16:16] <vbgunz_> hey llutz I just ran through its --help and man. im not sure how to use acpi_listen. brb, need to pick my son up.
[16:17] <shadeslayer> hmm weird i defined the command in crontab... didnt give its exact path,but still cron doesnt run it
[16:17] <shadeslayer> any ideas
[16:18] <llutz> " didnt give its exact path,but still cron doesnt run it"    how should it?
[16:18] <somekool> I'm getting recurrent X crash since I upgraded to KDE 4.4
[16:19] <jschall> i have my system set to suspend to ram after 60 minutes in power management. When I turn my computer on in the morning, it resumes, says "suspending in 30 seconds" and then suspends again and i have to hit the power button again to get it to actually come up
[16:19] <thacious> installing alsa-source and module-assistant may have me covered...
[16:21] <sixzerofour|jps> does the kubuntu installer explain what is needed for a good install? [like how to parition and such]
[16:21] <sixzerofour|jps> i won't be able to access this channel while installing
[16:22] <sixzerofour|jps> i think i need like a os install, a data part, and a swap part right?
[16:22] <sixzerofour|jps> i have a 250Gb hd on my laptop, what is a good way to divide this?
[16:22] <sixzerofour|jps> 20gb os, 2gb swap and rest data?
[16:23] <James147> sixzerofour|jps: you are right, but kubuntu dosent do taht be default (it only have os and swap)
[16:23] <sixzerofour|jps> is there a reason to sepearte os from data?
[16:23] <jschall> sixzerofour|jps: 10-30gb mounted as /, 2-4gb swap and the rest /home
[16:24] <James147> sixzerofour|jps: i tend to manually configure the partitions during the installer to do 10gig os 2-4 swap and rest data
[16:24] <jschall> sixzerofour|jps: yes, so that you can reinstall your os without formatting your /home
[16:24] <sixzerofour|jps> i see
[16:24] <sixzerofour|jps> is 10gb enough for kubuntu?
[16:24] <jschall> sixzerofour|jps: i'd just do like 15
[16:24] <jschall> sixzerofour|jps: i've never looked to see how much space i actually use
[16:24] <sixzerofour|jps> yeah but i don't want to try to do an update one day and not have space
[16:24] <James147> sixzerofour|jps: never needed more then 10 on mine, but you can do 15 if you want to make sure
[16:24] <sixzerofour|jps> lol
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> i will probably use this setup for 4-5 years
[16:25] <James147> sixzerofour|jps: I have many development tools and sdks installe on my systems and still never needed more then 10
[16:25] <jschall> i have mine set up at 30 =/
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> ok
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> i'
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> i'll do 10
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> and 2gb swap
[16:25] <jschall> i probably wasted a bunch of space
[16:25] <FloodBotK1> sixzerofour|jps: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <sixzerofour|jps> rest data
[16:25] <James147> sixzerofour|jps: on 7gig atm
[16:26] <thacious> so i have my sound back but i still have this low volume problem? any ideas?
[16:26] <jschall> the flood bot is probably more annoying than the flooders most of the time =/
[16:26] <sixzerofour|jps> lol
[16:27] <jschall> my swap is smaller than my ram =/ i think i need more
[16:27] <sixzerofour|jps> this laptop will have 3gb ram
[16:27] <James147> jschall: depends, you do if you want to hibernate
[16:27] <jschall> make sure your swap is bigger than your ram so you can hibernate
[16:27] <sixzerofour|jps> 4gb swap then
[16:27] <jschall> James147: its a desktop. i suspend it.
[16:28] <jschall> James147: i never shut it down or hibernate
[16:28] <jschall> James147: unless i need a kernel update
[16:28] <sixzerofour|jps> i probably won't do anything with the laptop but have it on or off..lol
[16:28] <sixzerofour|jps> its for taking notes
[16:28] <sixzerofour|jps> and rbwosing
[16:30] <sixzerofour|jps> browsing
[16:32] <Lord-Rahl> ? is there a way in kopete to make any new message to open in a tab window instead of open a new window?
[16:32] <shadeslayer> Lord-Rahl: i have window grouping on
[16:32] <shadeslayer> Lord-Rahl: so it doesnt make much of a diff.
[16:33] <Lord-Rahl> shadeslayer: is that in 'behavior setings'
[16:33] <sheytan> Lord-Rahl take a look at kopete's settings, behavior, chat ;)
[16:34] <Lord-Rahl> thats all
[16:35] <Lord-Rahl> thanks all **
[16:35] <shadeslayer> Lord-Rahl: :D
[16:43] <shadeslayer> how do i start cronjobs automatically
[16:43] <vbgunz_> llutz: back. probably the best way to run acpi_listen, is to shorten the automatic suspend time to 1 minute, run acpi_listen in the terminal let it go to sleep, wake it up and check out the stdout?
[16:44] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: whole point of cronjobs is that they start automatically?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: well not here
[16:45] <tarzan> f-n, jag hamnade fel.
[16:45] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: do i need to specify the whole path to the command? like /usr/bin
[16:45] <suckinreadonly> i am very close to finally getting my nagios system running here.   A config file is only opening in Read Only mode.. how can i figure out what is holding it open.. and fix it
[16:46] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you need to specify the frequency how did you set it up?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: one sec
[16:47] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: there is a setup GUI in the system settings
[16:47] <Mamarok> that works quite well
[16:47] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah i set it there only :P
[16:47] <shadeslayer> wheres the crontab file located?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> for the user crontab?
[16:48] <Mamarok> SystemSettings -> Advanced Tab -> Task Scheduler
[16:49] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i have already set it there.... it *doesnt* run :P
[16:49] <shadeslayer> one sec
[16:50] <ivan__> Hi. I have a problem: some times after system locking mouse pointer starts jumping randomly. And mouse buttons are clicking randomly (i can see popup menus, files are being opened, etc.). What kind of bug is it, how to fix it?
[16:50] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: http://imagebin.ca/view/0Xilpx.html
[16:51] <Nakkel> Meh, new web layout borken in Konqi.
[16:51] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: could you show the setup GUI? Click on Modify
[16:52] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: http://imagebin.ca/view/PFkxZGDL.html
[16:53] <vbgunz_> I just had my system automatically suspend in 60 seconds. I ran sudo acpi_listen before it would automatically do this. it suspended automatically and went to sleep. I woke it up and it automatically suspended again 10 seconds after waking it up. acpi_listen didn't say anything about why. anybody know whats up?
[16:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you did set two commands, that might be the problem
[16:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: but i want to get the time and temp at the same time
[16:54] <shadeslayer> any ideas on how to do that?
[16:54] <Mamarok> then run two jobs for that
[16:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: with the same output file?
[16:54] <James147> shadeslayer: you could add them so a bash script and run that
[16:55] <Mamarok> also adding a date for a "every 2 Minutes job" sounds a bit illogical
[16:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmmm
[16:55] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: why don't you just set a sensor widget?
[16:55] <Mamarok> then you can actually see what is happening
[16:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: well i keep the laptop on at night,and log the temos
[16:55] <Mamarok> or are you going to read that file every 2 minutes?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> *temps
[16:56] <shadeslayer> so that i know its not heating up much...
[16:56] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: are you running stuff during the night?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah...
[16:56] <Mamarok> because heating happens when it is working, if it is idle...
[16:56] <shadeslayer> downloads..
[16:56] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: downloads is not using much CPU
[16:57] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: idk my laptop gets hot alot now a days..
[16:57] <shadeslayer> just being carefull
[16:57] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that comes from CPU intensive tasks
[16:57] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:57] <Mamarok> and running a cron job every 2 minutes is not going to improve that...
[16:57] <shadeslayer> youre right..
[16:58]  * shadeslayer goes back to hacking rekonq code
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: thanks :)
[16:58] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I have a temerature sensor widget that shows heating when compiling, but if the laptop is set to performance the CPU should scale well
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: whats the ususal temps you get?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: and is it a laptop?
[16:59] <Mamarok> and try not using both cores full load when compiling by using the -j option for make install
[16:59] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: yes, a Lenovo W500
[17:00] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: let me try and have a look, moment...
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: wont that load one of them more and cause a large variation in temps b/w the 2 cores?
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: sure
[17:03] <vbgunz_> does anybody know whats going on with suspension? my pc suspends just fine. wakes up fine too. just after being awoke after automatically going to sleep it sleeps again in 10 seconds by itself when its not supposed too. really, am I the only one experiencing this?
[17:05] <Benkinooby> maybe i should post this to the dev channel, but again i have to say i love kubuntu. i turned of skype, kopete and firefox, disabped my wather forecast widget and see.... no single bit of network traffic... 100% silence... how many times i tried to reach this in win...
[17:05] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I just compiled with make install -j3, using the performance mode, and one core briefly went up to 70°C
[17:05] <Mamarok> not they are idling at 55-60°C
[17:06] <lucia> holaa
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i get upto 75 sometimes
[17:06] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that sometimes happens here, too, espeically when compiling two things at the same time
[17:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: but modern CPUs should be able to take that without problems
[17:07] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmm.. well i get upto 75 when i compile amarok
[17:07] <shadeslayer> that to after make clean
[17:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: it doesn't depends what you compile, but how you are loading the CPU
[17:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: dual core?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah
[17:08] <Mamarok> then you should avoid using more than -j3
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so i should use make install -j3
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok that loads just one core... right?
[17:08] <Mamarok> yes, that will use uup to 75% of the CPU capacity only
[17:08] <Mamarok> up*
[17:09] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:09] <shadeslayer> thats cool
[17:09]  * shadeslayer goes and changes his build scripts
[17:09] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: also do you use a ccache?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: nope
[17:09] <shadeslayer> i cant figure it out
[17:10] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you should, at least for cmake, since that speeds up compiling a lot
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: can you teach me how to do it?
[17:10] <James147> Mamarok: wont -j3 make the cpu run to 100%... ?
[17:11] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: see here: http://blogs.fsfe.org/myriam/2009/09/compiling-amarok-from-git-locally-full-summary/ for Amarok, the ccache settings are explained in point 2
[17:12] <shadeslayer> opk
[17:13] <Mamarok> James147: that depends on the CPU, it doesn't here
[17:13] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: does your CPU do hyperthreading?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i think so,dont know for sure
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i have a Intel T8100
[17:14] <shadeslayer> btw i dont have ~/kde/bin.... any issues?
[17:14] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: if it doesn't then you should set it to -j1
[17:15] <Mamarok> so it only uses one core
[17:15] <Neremor> hello!
[17:15] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you mean for a local Amarok build?
[17:15] <Mamarok> hi Neremor
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i mean as in,i dont have a kde folder in my home folder :)
[17:16] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: normal, since that blog is about a local build :)
[17:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:16] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: so i just leave out that line
[17:16] <hbbk> hello
[17:16] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you should maybe read it completely to get it right before doing anything
[17:17] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: all the settings are for a local build only
[17:17] <Mamarok> including the cmake settings
[17:17] <Neremor> I would like to setup a guest account on my system. Therefore I created a new user and set it to require no password in kdm. After I set up the workspace for the guest account, I would like to "save" this prefferences so everyone who logs in with the guest accout sees this session, even if the last user reconfigures the whole appearance.
[17:18] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:18] <Neremor> and i would like the home-directory to be only temporary. So if you save a file in /home/guest and restart and log in with guest again, the home directory should be empty again.
[17:18] <shadeslayer> brb
[17:21] <Mamarok> Neremor: hm, why not running a cron job to erase the /home/guest content once it is logged out?
[17:23] <alabd> hello while booting kubuntu 8.10 amd64 cd in the page that we should select "install kubuntu" enter does not work , how to solev it ?
[17:23] <Mamarok> oops, s/he was not very patient...
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: most people arent nowadays :_
[17:30] <egsome> i've problem with Dragon Player ( Phonon Powered Player ), i can't play any MP3 file with it !
[17:31] <shadeslayer> egsome: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extrass
[17:31] <shadeslayer> -s
[17:31] <egsome> shadeslayer: No, Going to do
[17:33] <shadeslayer> egsome: please install it :)
[17:33] <egsome> shadeslayer: installing it now ..
[17:38] <alabd> any opinion ?
[17:45] <egsome> shadeslayer: installed, an now can open any mp3 file with Dragon, but no sound comes out !
[17:48] <shadeslayer> egsome: press alt+F2 and type kmix
[17:49] <shadeslayer> egsome: and set everything to high
[17:49] <egsome> shadeslayer: i'm on Ubuntu, and can hear sound from Totem normally
[17:51] <Benkinooby> hi, what is the difference between the "ports-system" wich is used in BSD or it ports-like systems linke portage (gentoo) and packagemangementsystems like yum, apt and so on?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> egsome: um can you please switch to kubuntu ?
[17:51] <Benkinooby> linke = like
[17:51] <egsome> shadeslayer: No :), just want to Dragon to play MP3
[17:51] <shadeslayer> egsome: ok,well press alt+F2 and type kmix
[17:52] <genii> Benkinooby: the ports and portage build stuff from source the package management systems generally fetch precompiled binaries
[17:52] <Peace-> Benkinooby: the way how they works
[17:52] <egsome> shadeslayer: installing it now ..
[17:52] <shadeslayer> egsome: 0_o
[17:52] <egsome> shadeslayer: installed, and every thing is to top
[17:53] <shadeslayer> egsome: try now
[17:53] <vic61> sera
[17:53] <egsome> shadeslayer: Now Working :) Thanks !
[17:53] <shadeslayer> egsome: cool! :)
[17:53] <vic61> hallo
[17:53] <vic61>  i am iyalian
[17:54] <shadeslayer> vic61: hi
[17:54] <vic61> italian
[17:54] <vic61> hi
[17:54] <vic61> sorry for italian server were?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> !it | vic61
[17:55] <Benkinooby> genii: ok, so both are for software management only. isn't it possible to download and bulid packages from source with packagemanagers, or are there more informations needed, which are only provided by ports system?
[17:55] <vic61> ok tank you
[18:04] <n8w1ng> hey
[18:04] <n8w1ng> guys,i was playin with kismet a bit n now i cant get bak my wlan connection....it seems that it has gotten stock in that monitor mode
[18:05] <n8w1ng> i can provide u by iwconfig output if needed
[18:05] <n8w1ng> ive also tried etc/init.d/networking restart ...but nothin happened
[18:05] <shadeslayer> whats that app which is like ultra light and shows all system info... i cant remember the name
[18:06] <shadeslayer> you make its config file by hand
[18:06] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: conky?
[18:06] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: ah yes
[18:07] <n8w1ng> hmmm aha
[18:07] <n8w1ng> thx for nothin
[18:18] <BluesKaj> n8w1ng, try sudo dhclient wlan0
[18:21] <daniel_> I installed the  VDRIFT racing game from the .deb package (sourceforge) but it seems it's doesn't get installed.  did not create any folder
[18:23] <daniel_> I installed the  VDRIFT racing game from the .deb package (sourceforge) but it seems it's doesn't get installed.  did not create any folder.  Any Idea?
[18:24] <foormea> hi
[18:24] <foormea> is there no skype in karmic? i just reinstalled a karmic with medibuntu repo... and i cannot find skype
[18:25] <James147> foormea: you need to get it from the skype site
[18:25] <egsome> foormea: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[18:25] <foormea> James147: ok, thanks. how come it's not in the repos anymore??
[18:37] <tareq> আমি
[18:39] <martinuu> hiiiiiiiii
[18:40] <daskreech> hi
[18:40] <genii> !hi
[18:44] <pookito> simple question,  If a friend of mine has a shared folder under Linux, and I would like to have access to to that shared folder, how can I have access under KDE or Gnome?
[18:46] <daskreech> How is it shared?
[18:46] <pookito> how to access the file in another computer which is already shared
[18:47] <pookito> or folder
[18:47] <|604|> how are nvidia drivers lookin on the buntu these days?
[18:47] <daskreech> How is it being shared?
[18:48] <daskreech> Closed sourced |604| :)
[18:48] <|604|> lol
[18:48] <|604|> yes
[18:48] <|604|> but they are still better than ati
[18:48] <|604|> ?
[18:48] <pookito> I have a Linux computer and a friend of mine went through the process and shared a couple of his folders.  I would like to have access to them.  I use a  kubuntu 9.10
[18:48] <daskreech> Yes But much less than they were two years ago
[18:49] <|604|> all i got is a 7300 gs,
[18:49] <|604|> weas jsut wondering
[18:49] <|604|> haven't used linux in about 9 months
[18:50] <pookito> any help
[18:51] <Peace-> pookito: yea but he has windows?
[18:51] <pookito> nope, he has Linux
[18:51] <pookito> as well
[18:51] <Peace-> ssh i guess
[18:51] <Peace-> or nfs
[18:51] <Peace-> !nfs
[18:51] <pookito> nfs
[18:52] <pookito> thanks
[19:01] <igor> hi, is there any hotkey for "mouse buffer"?
[19:04] <iconmefisto> what's  "mouse buffer"?
[19:07] <genii> igor: You mean if you copied some text with the mouse, what key combination pastes it?
[19:07] <igor> genii: yes
[19:08] <iconmefisto> ctrl-V
[19:08] <genii> igor: In a Konsole shift-insert    in most graphical apps ctrl-v
[19:09] <Peace->  and some time ctrl shit ins
[19:09] <genii> Peace-: I imagine you meant to say "shift"  ;)
[19:10] <Peace-> omg
[19:10] <Peace-> hahaha
[19:10] <igor> sorry, but there  two different buffers
[19:10] <igor> ctrl+c/v
[19:10] <igor> and "mouse buffer"
[19:11] <igor> ctrl-v pastes only what was selected with ctrl-c
[19:11] <iconmefisto> mouse middle-click pastes selected text
[19:12] <Vroomfondle> yes, but igor wants a shortcut key
[19:12] <igor> yeh, I am just woundaring about hotkey for that
[19:12] <igor> ))
[19:12] <igor> *wondering
[19:17] <Tscheesy> middle Button is the classic Unix-Pipe Comand : | - this one needs a focus on the target so the mouse is perfect
[19:18] <iconmefisto> igor: try ctrl-shift-ins. that seems to work for me
[19:21] <igor> iconmefisto: thank you, it works!
[19:24] <olskolirc> is there something like a gnome do for kubuntu please?
[19:25] <iconmefisto> olskolirc: alt-F2 (krunner)
[19:27] <Mamarok> there is "a gnome"?
[19:28]  * Mamarok misread the line
[19:35] <shadowhywind> how can one find what the partition type (ext3/ext4) from the console?
[19:39] <genii> shadowhywind: There is only type 83 which is Linux. The filesystem is independent of the partition type
[19:40] <genii> shadowhywind: If it's a mounted filesystem, then: mount      should show the filesystem type
[19:40] <shadowhywind> hehe thanks
[19:40] <daskreech> Mamarok:  :-)
[19:47] <MrFubar> Hi, kann mir jemand sagen wie ich die Reihenfolge der Kernelmodule ändern kann, die beim booten geladen werden? Ich hab meine Konsolen-Auflösung mittels "uvesafb" hochgestellt, allerdings greift die Auflösung erst wenn die Hälfte des Bootvorgangs shcon gelaufen ist...thx in advance
[19:48] <iconmefisto> !de
[19:48] <MrFubar> huch
[19:57] <allyourrejects> is anyone else having an issue in Lucid that no matter what you do Network Applet (in both gnome and kde) says "network disabled".  I have no configuration listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:58] <llutz> !lucid | allyourrejects
[19:58] <allyourrejects> k thanks
[20:13] <olskolirc> and how do I get rid of krunner on startup?
[20:14] <olskolirc> oic never mind
[20:14] <daskreech> olskolirc: Get rid of?
[20:15] <olskolirc> never mind daskreech
[20:15] <daskreech> Just wanted to know what you meant by get rid of
[20:39] <CptTorpedo> hi, why does kate forget the last used folder and instead use ~/Documents?
[20:40] <CptTorpedo> I hope this is a buh
[20:40] <CptTorpedo> bug*
[20:42] <allyourrejects> CptTorpedo: it remembers for me..  The default on open is ~/Documents
[20:42] <allyourrejects> but after I open a doc it remembers where I was, and also where I saved it to
[20:42] <CptTorpedo> allyourrejects:  when you close the window and another does it still remember?
[20:42] <allyourrejects> why would it?  thats a new session
[20:43] <CptTorpedo> eh?
[20:43] <Jabberwock> Is there a package nme in Apt-Get for Flash Player?
[20:43] <Jabberwock> name*
[20:43] <CptTorpedo> can that be configured?
[20:43] <allyourrejects> CptTorpedo: maybe try saving session on close?
[20:43] <allyourrejects> I haven't tried that myself
[20:44] <allyourrejects> I expect it to always startup in ~/Documents
[20:44] <CptTorpedo> kate also forget plugin settings
[20:44] <allyourrejects> if i edited /etc/ files I probably don't want to do that next time I open
[20:44] <CptTorpedo> so, I have to enable the plugins everytim
[20:44] <cbwcjw> Is anyone firmiliar with compositing issues in KDE 4.4?
[20:44] <allyourrejects> that sounds more like it can't write the config to file
[20:44] <daskreech> cbwcjw: #kwin is
[20:44] <allyourrejects> you sure your user owns the dir and it has permissions?
[20:45] <CptTorpedo> I see no error messages
[20:45] <CptTorpedo> when I launch from console
[20:45] <CptTorpedo> but I'm gonna try messing around with it
[20:45] <daskreech> CptTorpedo: have a Kate Session and open it with krunner
[20:45] <daskreech> You can open kate with a "profile"
[20:46] <CptTorpedo> how do you run it from krunner
[20:47] <CptTorpedo> the profile that is
[20:48] <daskreech> CptTorpedo: turn on the kate sessions runner and when you name it you should be able just to type the name
[20:49] <CptTorpedo> I don't have it, I'll try installing it
[20:51] <CptTorpedo> there is no such runner in the repos...
[20:52] <daskreech> CptTorpedo: plasma-runners-addons I think
[20:53] <jonftle> Hey all, I've been having some trouble with the Xorg process lately. When I start my machine, it runs at around 3% - 5% of my CPU, as expected. But if I leave my machine up for around 24 hours, that CPU usage has risen to well over 40% and the KDE desktop slows to a crawl. Running Kubuntu 9.10 - any ideas?
[20:54] <CptTorpedo> daskreech: sorry for wasting your time, I found the auto save session option.
[20:54] <CptTorpedo> << idiot
[20:54] <CptTorpedo> the arrow is pointing at my nick btw
[20:54] <james_l> jonftle: You have flash running?
[20:55] <twoten_> hel(p)lo
[20:56] <jonftle> james_l: I have a flash plugin in my browser, but I didn't leave the browser running every time - this is a regular thing that's been happening for a few weeks now, even if I kill all of my apps before walking away from the machine
[20:56] <twoten_> I installed kubuntu 9.10 and things are going okay, BUY, the down arrow and END keys on my keyboard are dea - what gives?
[20:56] <twoten_> BUT
[20:56] <twoten_> dead
[20:57] <twoten_> I tried changing keyboards, I have the systray app, but still no go
[20:57] <jonftle> james_l: The last time that I walked away, I killed everything except for the Kontact calendar daemon, and  it still happened. And I can definetely say that it is always the Xorg process. No other process has exhibited the behavior
[20:59] <james_l> The only other thing I've seen do that is plasma-desktop. Other than that, no idea.
[20:59] <jonftle> james_l: Thanks for your help, hopefully somebody else knows the answer
[20:59] <Mamarok> twoten_: check the Systemsettings -> Region&Language and try another keyboard layout
[20:59] <james_l> Sorry I couldn't help.
[20:59] <twoten_> yeah I doin that
[21:05] <twoten_> is there a kde app that allows you to define those extra keys on your keyboard?
[21:05] <twoten_> I'm pretty sure there's one for gnome ...
[21:07] <jonftle> Hey all, I've been having some trouble with the Xorg process lately. When I start my machine, it runs at around 3% - 5% of my CPU, as expected. But if I leave my machine up for around 24 hours, that CPU usage has risen to well over 40% and the KDE desktop slows to a crawl. Running Kubuntu 9.10 - any ideas?
[21:08] <twoten_> control alt to see your running processes - Firefox maybe?
[21:10] <jonftle> twoten_: if that was directed at me, thanks, but the problem lies with the Xorg process. I can directly see that it is eating up 40% of my CPU
[21:11] <twoten_> hmmm ... ATI card? vga driver?
[21:12] <jonftle> twoten: It's an NVidia card running the proprietary drivers. Do the video drivers run as a part of the Xorg process?
[21:18] <twoten_> hmm, I'm stumped, maybe Gypsy Curse?
[21:19] <jonftle> twoten: It's possible, but I hope not
[21:25] <iconmefisto> jonftle: anything stand out in Xorg logs?
[21:27] <jonftle> iconmefisto: sorry, I forget how to get at them. Can you remind me?
[21:28] <iconmefisto> jonftle: look in /var/log/   there should be Xorg.0.log or similar
[21:31] <jonftle> iconmefisto: no major errors, would you like a pastebin?
[21:32] <iconmefisto> jonftle: there is a KDE system log viewer ksystemlog
[21:34] <jonftle> iconmefisto: is there a way to go back before the last system reboot?
[21:34] <jonftle> iconmefisto: I rebooted the system when I started working this afternoon, because that fixes the Xorg resource hogging
[21:35] <Tresmius> Hey, I just did a clean install of kubuntu, installed all bug updates/ updates and firefox and there's no sound at all in firefox
[21:36] <Tresmius> I found some threads on the ubuntu forums but they're from 2006 and some of the files they mentioned editing don't exist
[21:36] <iconmefisto> jonftle: maybe Xorg.0.log.old ? I'm not sure
[21:37] <jonftle> iconmefisto: already checked it. It's almost a month old. I guess I'll have to wait until the behaviour comes back...
[21:41] <Tresmius> The sound worked fine in firefox in ubuntu yesterday
[21:41] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, flashplugin-nonfree , make sure alsamixer ctrls aren't down or muted, but it could be the bug that was reported yesterday ..FF not doing media properly on some sites
[21:42] <iconmefisto> jonftle: if you have ksystemlog open, look in logs menu, other, X session log
[21:43] <Benkinooby> hi i am installing americas_army (plz, no discussion about ethics or something like that). the default install directory is /usr/local/games/armyops which is fine for me (i don'tthink it's good to have it in /home) next it asks me if i want to install a symbolic link to a directory in my path. i don't understand this question...
[21:43] <Tresmius> BluesKaj-Laptop: flashplugin-nonfree: command not found
[21:44] <twoten_> the symbolic link is a good idea, put it in /usr/bin
[21:44] <Tresmius> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[21:44] <jonftle> iconmefisto: this looks like what I need, but again, it only goes back to the last power up
[21:44] <nico__> Hi, I have the latest Kubuntu version, KDE4 / ALSA audio / analog headset, trying to record audio from my microphone. Getting lots of background noise. Any idea where to look in order to fix it? If I boot under Windows, use Skype, I have good sound.
[21:45] <Benkinooby> twoten_: i know what a link is. i dont know for sure what a symbolic link is. what is the use of having symbolic links in /usr/bin ?
[21:47] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Benkinooby, copy the executable file to /usr/bin , that might work
[21:47] <Tresmius> BluesKaj-Laptop I don't think it's flash related, I've tried an mp3/ midi stream and there's no sound there either
[21:47] <Benkinooby> BluesKaj-Laptop: i answered yes to create a symbolic link.. then the directory /usr/local/bin was proposed... i agreed
[21:48] <Benkinooby> BluesKaj-Laptop: what whould happen without these symb. links?
[21:48] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, check kmix and alsamixer, also if you have pulseaudio, that could be the culprit
[21:49] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Benkinooby, /usr/local/bin is good , it should work
[21:50] <Benkinooby> BluesKaj-Laptop: ok, so far so good. but what is the need of this symbolic links? what will happen if i don't create them?
[21:51] <Tresmius> BluesKaj-Laptop: kmix gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/379984/
[21:52] <jonftle> Hey all, I've been having some trouble with the Xorg process lately. When I start my machine, it runs at around 3% - 5% of my CPU, as expected. But if I leave my machine up for around 24 hours, that CPU usage has risen to well over 40% and the KDE desktop slows to a crawl. Running Kubuntu 9.10 - any ideas?
[21:53] <iconmefisto> Benkinooby: without a symbolic link somewhere in your path, you would need to specify the whole path to start the program, eg /usr/local/games/armyops/army instead of just army
[21:53] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Benkinooby,symbolic links are used in cases where large files which require their own dirs need to be linked to the usr/bin or usr/local/bin file where the OS looks for the executable when you try to lanch an app
[21:53] <Tresmius> The sound works perfectly in Amarok though, just not in firefox
[21:54] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, then it's FF , try a diff browser
[21:54] <Benkinooby> ah, ok. so with the symboli link i link the game-executable to the */bin directory, wherey the system checks for the command i hammer to the cli (like cp, ls, cd ....) thank you :)
[21:55] <Benkinooby> Tresmius: i also think it's ff... somethimes this happens to me too... ff is a real reasource-eater for me
[21:55] <Tresmius> Hmm, no sound in konqueror either
[21:55] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, got a URL , lets have a look
[21:55] <Benkinooby> Tresmius: sorry, wrong person & topic ;)
[21:56] <Tresmius> I was just testing using random youtube videos
[21:56] <iconmefisto> Tresmius: look in systemsettings > multimedia and try moving devices around
[21:56] <Benkinooby> jonftle: never experinenced something like that... what are log files saying?
[21:56] <bipolar> For some reason I can't get a terminal bell in konsole. I set the notifications to show a popup and play a sound, but echo -e '\a' does nothing.
[21:57] <bipolar> can someone else test for me an see if it works for them?
[21:57] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, click on the speaker icon in the panel for kmix
[21:57] <jonftle> Benkinooby: unfortunately, iconmefisto helped me look through them earlier, but they only go back to when I restarted the machine about two hours ago. The problem only crops up when it's been running for closer to 20 hours
[21:59] <Tresmius> nothing
[21:59] <Tresmius> all the volume settings seem to be up and I'm using headphones, but I hear audio in media players fine
[21:59] <Benkinooby> jonftle: if you go "ctrl+esc" you will get to the system monitor, where you can see the threads and processes... this you allrdy know. on the right upper corner, you can change the way the threads and processes are displayed to you. maybe you will get mor info when you start changing it
[22:01] <jonftle> Benkinooby: I found that earlier, and noticed that Xorg runs as a child process of kdm, but doesn't have any children of it's own - is there any way that I can drill into the Xorg process to figure out what it is doing with my CPU?
[22:01] <Benkinooby> Tresmius: can you try with an audio stream? any radio station...
[22:01] <Tresmius> In the browser?
[22:04] <Tresmius> I got a radio stream playing in firefox just now, but no sound
[22:04] <Tresmius> but I just played an MP3 in amarok and I can hear it fine
[22:09] <Benkinooby> Tresmius: hmm.. i also have no idea...
[22:09] <Benkinooby> Tresmius: maybe you can do something in ff's about:config
[22:09] <Benkinooby> check google what sound settings can be done
[22:10] <iconmefisto> Tresmius: if you do speaker-test in konsole, do you hear sound?
[22:10] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, try chrome
[22:10] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Tresmius, or try vlc netradio streams
[22:12] <carsten> Hello, anybody else having problems starting akonadi since 4.4 (Test 9&10, the D-Bus message)?
[22:13] <Tresmius> iconmefisto: no
[22:14] <iconmefisto> Tresmius: in systemsettings > multimedia, try putting a different device at the top of the list
[22:15] <Tresmius> iconmefisto: it's just pulseaudio and HDA Intel (ALC1200 Analog) there, I already tried swapping/ preferring each
[22:16] <iconmefisto> if you're using pulseaudio, run padevchooser and try settings there (it gives you an icon in the panel)
[22:16] <iconmefisto> Tresmius: or maybe remove pulseaudio if you don't need it
[22:17] <Tresmius> The remove button is greyed out
[22:17] <Tresmius> Although I'm using HDA Intel (ALC1200 Analog)
[22:18] <iconmefisto> Tresmius: no, I mean uninstall pulseaudio: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[22:18] <Tresmius> Ah, it isn't installed
[22:19] <Tresmius> Package pulseaudio is not installed, so not removed
[22:19] <iconmefisto> ok, then put pulseaudio at the bottom of the list in multimedia settings
[22:24] <jonftle> Hey all, I've been having some trouble with the Xorg process lately. When I start my machine, it runs at around 3% - 5% of my CPU, as expected. But if I leave my machine up for around 24 hours, that CPU usage has risen to well over 40% and the KDE desktop slows to a crawl. Running Kubuntu 9.10 - any ideas?
[22:25] <athlon> .
[22:36] <danielsp> i upgraded kde3.2 to 4.4. now kubuntu starts in terminal mode, need help
[22:40] <clone1018> When I try and enable more then one monitor. Both monitors go blank until I restart
[22:41] <clone1018> I know the frequency and resolution are right.
[22:46] <jeroen> hallo
[22:48] <nomad> bonsoir tout le monde pour quoi SVn ne marche pas sous cramique
[22:49] <nomad> le français c'est ou
[22:49] <Tm_T> !fr | nomad
[23:23] <sixofour> w00t, kubuntu is live!
[23:24] <megaman> how do you change the what your text colors are in quassel
[23:26] <n8w1ng> hey
[23:27] <n8w1ng> how i do remove/uninstall plasma widgets?ive installed gmail widget but everytime it checks for emails CPU goes to 100% n stays there untill i confirm the password
[23:27] <n8w1ng> therefore i wanna remove that widget n never touch it again
[23:28] <n8w1ng> ive removed it from the desktop but it still keeps askin for password
[23:28] <sixofour> what is the apt-get gui applicationn for the latest kubuntu?
[23:30] <sixofour> it used to be apititude right?
[23:30] <megaman> does anyone know how to change the color of my text?
[23:30] <megaman> sixofour try kpackagekit
[23:31] <sylwi> hello
[23:32] <sixofour604> i want to use terminal but i forgot, is there a document somewhere?
[23:32] <sixofour604> its been a year since i used termina;
[23:34] <megaman> sixfour hit the k button (you know in the bottom left corner) then applications -> system-> kpackagekit ... thats on kubuntu 9.1
[23:34] <megaman> or hit alt+f2 and type kpackagekit
[23:35] <arand> I'm trying to install an additional language dictionary for use with lokalize, which would be the global package to use? Can it be used in OO.o as well?
[23:36] <sixofour604> i know, i found the gui, but i am fast with the terminal [well i used to be]
[23:36] <sixofour604> i'll figure it out
[23:39] <megaman> sixfour the terminal is in the same menu
[23:40] <Benkinooby> hi i want to run americas army, i installed as instruced on ubuntu website. when i want to run armyops (sybolic links are ok) i get ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: Error 40 i serached the web, but some hints nearly killed my kde (had to use cli to fix it) any ideas?
[23:40] <sixofour604> i know, but i forgot the actapt-getd with ual commands associate
[23:40] <sixofour604> i am trying to install restricted
[23:40] <megaman> how do i change the color of my chat text
[23:41] <sixofour604> the gui program is not findng at alling anythi
[23:42] <sixofour604> anything at all*
[23:42] <sixofour604> i am on a laptop btw, never used one, so my typing is meh
[23:51] <sixofour604> is there a tool that can identify the sound and video in my laptop so i can get the relevent drivesrs?
[23:53] <Benkinooby> sixofour604:  lspci
[23:53] <Benkinooby> sixofour604:  lspci -l
[23:54] <sixofour604> not sure what i am looking at tbh
[23:54] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: dou you see something that mentions sound or sound card...?
[23:55] <Benkinooby> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:56] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: this is e.g. my sound system. a integrated soundcard... see if you can find something like audio or controller or audio device....
[23:56] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: also i know that there is a good ubuntu site for sound and how to set everything correctly
[23:56] <sixofour604> how al? i copypaste from termi
[23:56] <sixofour604> er laptop breakage
[23:56] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: paste it to pastebin.com or something like that
[23:57] <sixofour604> how?
[23:57] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: not straight int irc
[23:57] <sixofour604> not used linux in over a year
[23:57] <sixofour604> no clue how to copy/paste
[23:57] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: can you open a webbrowser?
[23:57] <sixofour604> konqurer, but i want firefox, can't get it with the package progrqam
[23:58] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: for now knoq is fine go to http://www.pastebin.com/
[23:58] <sixofour604> i could use apt-get but i forgot the command
[23:58] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: and paste it there... then send me the link so i can see what you have pasted
[23:58] <sixofour604> how?
[23:58] <sixofour604> how do you copy / paste in linux
[23:59] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: mark it and then right click, choose copy...
[23:59] <Benkinooby> sixofour604: like win... you can also use ctrl+c, but ctrl+c will not work in terminal.. everywhere else it is like win