[00:02] Hey guys, i am interested in becoming a bug squad member. Where can i begin? I believe i have joined the squad on launchpad already. [00:05] RedSingularity, have you looked over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage ? [00:13] ddecator, yes sir I have. What is next? [00:14] RedSingularity, if you think you have a good handle on that, then you can start working on some basic things. you can look for duplicates, ask for more info, etc, just make sure you subscribe. i also recommend requesting a mentor. and, as always, if you have -any- questions, then feel free to ask them here =) [00:18] ddecator, Ok great....i am requesting a mentor now. Thanks a lot! [00:18] no problem! [00:28] btw, RedSingularity , you might want to look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses and think about installing firefox-lp-improvements (if you use firefox) [00:29] ddecator, Ah very good, i will look into that now. === virtuald_ is now known as virtuald [00:39] ddecator, where can i begin looking at filed bugs to try? [00:41] you can go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [00:41] then select your poison ;-) [00:42] Ok so these are bugs related to Ubuntu? [00:42] RedSingularity: the above link is a bit wrong [00:42] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target= [00:42] this one gets everything [00:43] RedSingularity: look for the ones that say (Ubuntu) [00:43] these are fair game. The others may *not* be fair game [00:44] And should i be looking for ones that no one has touched yet? "New" ones? [00:44] yes, you can. It is probably a good idea to browse first, and find some you feel confortable with, and start there [00:45] (it is much easier to triage packages you *know*) [00:46] Oh ok, but what if someone has "subscribed" to it already? [00:47] usually at least the OP (Original Poster) is subscribed [00:47] But any bug is fair game, as long it is an Ubuntu one [00:48] being subscribed only means you are interested in the bug life, it does not make one the exclusive owner [01:18] hggdh, what if the bug is assigned to someone already? [01:18] Which package is responsible for the "The program 'XYZ' is not installed, you can install it by typing apt-get xyz" messages? Is it apt, or something else? [01:19] command-not-found [01:19] I believe LP #523264 is caused by this package (names unix2dos and dos2unix disappeared from package tofrodos, but tofrodos is still being suggested to the user) [01:19] Launchpad bug 523264 in tofrodos (Ubuntu) "[lucid] dos2unix is not in tofrodos (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523264 [01:21] RedSingularity: which bug is this? [01:22] hggdh, actually i found one that is unassigned. Should i assign myself? [01:22] Is that how you do it? [01:23] Assign myself? [01:23] If you're going to fix it. [01:23] We don't usually assign ourselves for triage. [01:24] (this helps make it more clear that it is available for someone to fix, and also prevents reporters complaining we aren't helping when we unassign ourselves if triage is complete) [01:24] How do you make it "your" bug report then? I mean how do you let others know you are working on it? [01:24] Generally there's not much competition :) [01:25] But one could say something like "I'm working on bug #524148" [01:25] Launchpad bug 524148 in onboard (Ubuntu) "onboard has overactive dependencies (affects: 1)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524148 [01:25] Others might look and offer advice, but leave triage to you. [01:25] We usually work cooperatively, so that one investigates a bug, leaves a comment, and moves to another bug. [01:26] It's good practice to subscribe to bugs one is triaging, but someone else might also help. [01:26] In case of confusion or collision, just ask here. [01:27] Yeah thats what i mean........lets say i want to do some triage on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/524168 what would i do? [01:27] Launchpad bug 524168 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "No audio output from rhythmbox (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [01:36] RedSingularity: I usually start by trying to replicate it. [01:39] Ok sounds good, if i can replicate it what should i do? [01:43] Better yet......what if i CANT replicate? [02:03] RedSingularity: If you can't replicate, try to get closer to the reporters environment. [02:03] Keep track of what you changed, as these become areas of suspicion :) [02:09] If i cannot get replication even under similar settings should i assign the report as "invalid"? [02:12] Well, how similar did you get? [02:12] If I can't replicate, I usually set "Incomplete", and ask for detailed instructions to replicate. [02:13] I've seen bugs that only happen for certain hardware, or only happen in Hungarian, etc. [03:51] hggdh: are you around? === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ === mr_steve_ is now known as mr_steve [05:06] can someone set bug 354259 to triaged? [05:07] Launchpad bug 354259 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Rhythmbox doesn't skip bad files (affects: 1)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354259 [05:09] nigelb, done [05:09] om26er: thanks :) [05:14] bug 523236, [triaged, low] please =) (simple cosmetic translation problem) [05:14] Launchpad bug 523236 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Translation problem in Nautilus (French version): 21ère (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523236 [05:28] micahg, how about bug 519928 [05:28] Launchpad bug 519928 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox has problems rendering table borders. (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519928 [05:29] ddecator: well, you've been triaging a little while, what do you think? [05:32] micahg, it would be nice to know what version of FF he is using, but i also can confirm the behavior on FF 3.7 [05:33] indeed [05:33] ddecator: how familiar are you with web technologies? [05:34] micahg, depends what you mean about web technologies...but i guess i'm pretty basic right now [05:34] mean by* [05:34] HTML, XHTML, CSS [05:35] i know a decent amount of html, but that's all [05:36] ok, I just verified got it to pass the HTML validator and I sitll see the issue [05:36] ddecator: what video driver are you using? [05:37] micahg, i have the nvidia graphics driver but idk if that's used for video as well [05:37] ddecator: k, so we have different drivers [05:40] ddecator: k, so, then it would seem to be valid, so let [05:40] s check for dupes [05:45] micahg, i don't see anything [05:45] ddecator: k, let's upstream [05:46] ddecator: do you see any bugs that are similar upstream [05:46] * ddecator starts looking [05:52] micahg, i don't see anything... [05:55] ddecator: mozilla 410959 [05:55] Mozilla bug 410959 in Layout: Tables "[BC] Table cell border widths render incorrectly at various zoom levels" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410959 [05:55] how the...i looked up "table render zoom" and nothing came back [05:56] :) try simple first...I tried borders zoom and then followed some of the links in the bugs [05:56] alright, i'll remember that...anyway, link them? [05:59] ddecator: yeah, I think so, i'll add the LP bug upstream [05:59] * ddecator will look at how you format the addition [05:59] * micahg has canedit privs upstream :) [05:59] oops [05:59] canconfirm [05:59] aw, someday... [06:00] we'll have to update the LP description too [06:00] ddecator: k [06:04] micahg, whats your ubuntu version, FF version, and video driver? [06:04] karmic 3.6, intel :) [06:05] 32 or 64 bit =p [06:05] 64 [06:06] ddecator: why? [06:07] micahg, -shrug- just something i usually include in my descriptions [06:08] micahg, updated the description and title, but idk what tags you guys (the mozilla team) like to use, if any [06:08] ddecator: standard tags [06:08] none in this case [06:09] ddecator: what importance [06:09] micahg, alright. i don't see your addition to the upstream bug. i would say "low" since it's more of a cosmetic bug and doesn't seem to limit any functionality [06:14] ddecator: I added the bug to the See Also field [06:14] ddecator: yep [06:14] * ddecator never noticed the see also field [06:14] ddecator: it's new in bugzilla 3.4 [06:15] ddecator: Triaged in LP [06:15] micahg, nice addition, but you need extra access i'm guessing? [06:15] ddecator: yes, canconfirm [06:15] that's why I got it :) [06:15] someday [06:16] ddecator: one thing at a time [06:16] I was upstreaming bugs for over 6 months before I got that [06:16] micahg, yup, that's y "someday," i know there are more important things to cover first [06:16] plus one of the mozilla guys was watching me from the beginning [06:17] that's always a nice benefit [06:18] micahg, alright, another one? [06:18] ddecator: sure, I;m waiting for something to finish here [06:21] micahg, i'm looking at bug 518422 but i'm guessing we would just want to ask them to update to the latest version before doing anything else? [06:21] Launchpad bug 518422 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox does not start (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518422 [06:21] ddecator: yes, most likely already addressed [06:22] there should be a "please update and report back" canned response... [06:24] alright, left a comment and marked it incomplete [06:25] there is I thought [06:26] oh, I did that :) [06:26] you made your own? haha [06:26] ddecator: there's a response on the responses page though [06:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#About an obsolete version of the software for reporter's release [06:26] oh yah, i just noticed that [06:26] have it screwed this bug report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/523686 [06:26] Launchpad bug 523686 in dnsmasq (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] dnsmasq need update to 2.52 (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Invalid] [06:27] micahg, bug 513884 looks like fun... [06:27] Launchpad bug 513884 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Images loaded in a separate tab will sometimes disappear after rendering (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513884 [06:27] om26er: what do you mean? [06:28] micahg, I marked it invalid as 2.52 is already in lucid but the reporter seems to have reported against karmic [06:28] 21hours ago [06:28] om26er: that's correct, we don't update versions in stable releases, the user can file a request against karmic-backports [06:29] micahg, should I add a tag or leave it there [06:30] om26er: you can explain the stable release policy and suggest adding a karmic-backports task if they want it backported, you should probably look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [06:30] ddecator: already upstream... [06:31] micahg, the reporter filed it upstream himself, but it's not consistent and he tagged it 3.7 but says upstream that it's 3.6...just leave it? [06:31] ddecator: I'll triage it since he reported upstream as well [06:31] ddecator: no, read closer upstream [06:31] micahg, oh, doesn't =) [06:40] micahg, so i keep finding bugs that aren't running the latest version. i'm asking them to update and report back, but are there any bugs you know of that would be good for me to pay attention to? [06:43] ddecator: well, idk [06:50] micahg, haha, alright, any "homework"? certain types of firefox bugs i should work on or anything? [06:53] ddecator: nah, just ask if you have questions [06:53] micahg, fair enough, thanks for the help [06:53] ddecator: BTW, installation failures you should look through the apt log for problems [06:54] micahg, good to know... [06:55] hi, I've reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/516524 12 days ago with step by step how to reproduce the problem in 10.04 (and it also is a problem in 9.10 but to a lesser degree) but still there hasn't been (as far as I can see) any activity on the bug. What am I missing? Can I do anything else? [06:55] Launchpad bug 516524 in ubuntu "Passphrase request at bootup doesn't work properly (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [06:56] and this is a regression from 9.04 and earlier where it worked perfectly [06:58] SwedeMike: try back a little later maybe if no one answers, this is usually a quieter time for this channel === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [07:01] micahg, the only things i saw in that apt log were a problem with the adblock extension and the gm extension, and it mentioned ff 3.5 but nothing about 3.6... [07:01] micahg: thanks. [07:02] SwedeMike: this is the right place to start poking though [07:15] * syn-ack tickles micahg [07:15] hows it going? [07:15] hi syn-ack [07:16] syn-ack: know anything about ecryptfs? [07:16] such as? [07:16] I know a little... [07:17] micahg: and by little I mean, >< much [07:17] bug 516524 [07:17] Launchpad bug 516524 in ubuntu "Passphrase request at bootup doesn't work properly (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516524 [07:17] Oh, I was just getting ready to look at that one in my mean [07:17] in my email [07:20] micahg: Im not trying to cop out but I wonder if this is yet another problem due to plymouth [07:21] idk [07:21] it didn't work properly in 9.10 either. [07:21] but there at least one was dropped to rescue mode and could fix it manually. [07:21] I'm actually afraid to reboot my 10.04 right now because I'm not sure I'll be able to get it working again. [07:22] yeah, I saw you mention that in the email [07:22] I really don't know bub, I don't tend to run encrypted parts on this machine since it's my development machine [07:22] and it's an alternate cd from 8.04 or 8.10 install with crypt+lvm for / [07:22] (I reinstall quite a bit at times) [07:23] SwedeMike: Have you tried using a karmic or lucid installer to check and see if that happens with them? Im not sure how much of a difference it would make, maybe the configs arent getting properly updated from something that old? [07:24] (shot in the dark) [07:24] syn-ack: no, I haven't tried the alternate installer for lucid or karmic to do this, no. I can do that during the weekend though. [07:25] you mean that some of the configuration has changed and now it's supposed to be done another way? [07:25] well, for example, grub2 is now the default boot manager, right? [07:25] yeah, that's true. [07:25] well it's config is COMPLETELY different from grub [07:25] oki, I'll give that a shot. [07:26] I mean, I could be totally blowing the fine grade here, but I'm wondering if that might have something to do with it [07:26] I'll update the bug during the weekend with that information. It's just that if someone right now comes along and does an 8.04->10.04 upgrade I guess it won't upgrade to grub2 ? Anyhow, I see that this is important information to add. [07:27] but for the 10.04 problem with just any crypted partition that is mounted somewhere, it's still easily reproducible in a vm per my instructions. I see that this is two different problems though. [07:27] well, it upgraded but maybe that bit of the upgrade wasnt as clean as it could have been [07:27] no, my 10.04 machine still runs grub, not grub2 [07:28] try upgrading grub then [07:29] there's an "update-grub-something script that does it for you [07:29] well, my vm fresh install that the reproduction pictures in the bug came from is a fresh 10.04 install though [07:29] I've forgotten what it is [07:29] so it runs grub2 [07:29] hrm [07:29] I don't know then [07:30] like I said, it was a shot in the dark. Hell it could really be something within the code its self like I said the first time. crypt really isnt my area of expertise [07:30] check. [07:32] SwedeMike: ask me an aa question. :P [08:31] Hi persia are you there? [08:31] question concerning Bug #524148 [08:32] Launchpad bug 524148 in onboard (Ubuntu) "onboard has overactive dependencies (affects: 1)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524148 [08:32] Instead of patching X11.py on build wouldn't it be preferable to permanently modify the source to reference full sonames? [08:43] hey o/ === madmax_X_ is now known as madmax_X_not-her === madmax_X_not-her is now known as madmax_X_nothere [11:25] should we encourage people to reports bugs if they don't know english at all? [11:25] no [11:25] we already have too many bugs correctly written [11:25] ie there is no need to add some we will never look at, that's wasting submitter time and triager time [11:26] or point them to the answer tracker [11:26] they can open questions in their language there [11:26] ok [11:29] Will removing plymouth help me see info at boot for debugging purposes? Is there any drawback? I don't count missing graphics covering up text as a drawback. [11:32] edakiri: you can try removing splash and quite from the kernel command line in grub first === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [13:13] <_Narc_> Hello all. I'm still earning to triage, sorry about the stupid questions. When a bug like #524356 is "solved" by the user, should it be marked Invalid ? [13:13] <_Narc_> learning * [13:13] bug 524356 [13:13] Launchpad bug 524356 in totem (Ubuntu) "totem is mute (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524356 [13:14] _Narc_, yes you can mark it invalid [13:14] with a comment [13:15] _Narc_: as om26er says, mark as invalid and say closing as user reports everything works fine [13:16] <_Narc_> Ok, thanks, I'll do that [13:16] <_Narc_> Is it wrong to use the standard comments I found on the wiki ? Not in that case maybe but generally [13:17] <_Narc_> It's a bit impersonal but they're convenient [13:17] It is generally suggested that you *use* the standard replies [13:17] there is even a firefox plugin that does half the work for you [13:18] <_Narc_> Ok. I'm asking because one day someone mocked me on Launchpad for doing so [13:18] <_Narc_> Oh really [13:18] <_Narc_> Which one ? [13:18] someone mocked you? bug number? [13:19] <_Narc_> Well, not really mocked but said to the submitter to nevermind my copycat comments [13:19] <_Narc_> I don't remember the number [13:19] if someone is overly abusive, you should report them [13:19] here's the plugin https://edge.launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/+archive/ppa [13:20] add the ppa and then install [13:20] <_Narc_> It was a few months ago, when I started to triage [13:20] <_Narc_> Ok, thanks [13:26] need help putting this in the right place https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/+bug/524418 [13:26] Launchpad bug 524418 in eglibc (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "*** glibc detected *** aptitude: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00000000024d7950 *** (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [13:26] can't find aptitude [13:27] bug 524418 [13:27] Launchpad bug 524418 in eglibc (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "*** glibc detected *** aptitude: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00000000024d7950 *** (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524418 [13:28] BUGabundo_remote: I dont get what you mean [13:29] nigelb: hi. I found libc5 no prob there, but can't find aptitude [13:29] to report it against [13:29] * BUGabundo_remote may should have used apt-get or apt :S [13:29] I thought there was already an aptitude task against it? [13:30] it should only be reported against aptitude [13:31] ok chrisccoulson [13:31] BUGabundo_remote: there is aptitude in the packages list. donno how it didn't turn up for you [13:32] I cannt *ever* use search to find anything :( [13:32] I suck at search [13:33] chrisccoulson: I invalidated libc6 task [13:33] not if only I could fin aptitude task in ubuntu project :\ [13:34] BUGabundo_remote: I'll do it [13:34] thanks [13:35] BUGabundo_remote: done :) [13:36] * BUGabundo_remote refreshs [13:36] cool [13:36] should the upstream task be kept ? [13:37] or invalidated [13:37] I'm not sure about that. [13:37] since its not linked to an upstream bug, I doubt if it causes any harm [13:48] seb128: there are a few old rhythmbox bugs with logs given by OP that we have not been able to look at. [13:48] Is there some place I can see how to interpret the debug logs? [13:50] (or I can triage them all and give the list of bugs I need help with) [14:00] morning hggdh :) [14:39] morning nigelb [14:43] hggdh: finally I reached the rhythmbox bugs filed against karmic [14:43] phew, adopting a package is a load of work ;) [14:45] yes it is... mostly when it is something like rythmbox (or however the name is written) [14:46] * nigelb plans for spelling lessons for hggdh ;) [14:46] lol [15:16] it's dyslexia ;-) [15:21] yeah rite :P dyslexia of the hands [15:21] they just seem to press the wrong key [15:21] hggdh: btw, you joined canonical? or just the QA team? [15:21] * nigelb was reading logs of last qa meeting [15:21] nigelb: both [15:22] w00t [15:22] congrats! [15:22] thank you [15:22] does this mean you'll not be at the whim of your clients? [15:22] and have a more or less sane schedule... ;) [15:23] yes. There *are* some advantages [15:23] OTOH, now I have one single manager ;-) [15:25] great :) [15:29] hggdh: anything more I should be doing to edge my suitability to bug-control? [15:30] nigelb: *now* you are dong what you needed to be doing ;-) [15:31] so you are OK [15:31] huh? [15:31] meaning triaging a lot of bugs? [15:31] you were off for a while, remember? [15:31] yes [15:31] jeeezzzz s/dong/doing/ [15:33] lol [15:34] yeah. My laptop had issues. Now its not fixed, but I found a work around [15:34] wow, hggdh, congrats ;) [15:34] hggdh: you seem to be high :p [15:35] thekorn: thank you. Who would have said one day I would get there? [15:36] hggdh, that's 'xactly the question I was asking myself ;) [15:36] nigelb: sounds fun. Of all companies that offered me positions in the last years, this is the single one I think it would be fun [15:36] hggdh: its fun to get paid for what you like to do in free time [15:36] there you go [15:37] I wish certainly wish I could.. [15:37] and *now* I can, who knows, have a bit of real free time ;-) [15:37] hahah [15:38] nigelb: for you to get an idea: my first two employments (University CS research center, and a government research center) were fun. Really. [15:38] all the rest in between was money [15:38] hggdh: ah, lucky. [15:39] hggdh: I've been stuck in a very boring position for ...ew... 3 years. Waiting to finish my bachelors to do something I like to do [15:40] yeah. Soi first 6 years were fun, intermediate 30 were not really fun, but paid good. [15:40] gasp.. [15:40] you have 36 years of experience? [15:40] * hggdh is sort of old [15:41] pretty much, yes. I started in 74 [15:41] wow [15:41] * nigelb bows [15:43] anyone seen pedro around lately? [15:43] he is on vacation/holiday [15:43] ouch [15:44] hggdh: I've got a list of bugs where OP has given requested info but we've not looked into it. I dont understand the debug. So, I guess I'll just make a list and ask seb [15:45] heh? [15:45] give me one example, please [15:45] hold on. screen flicking. restarting [15:48] back [15:51] bug 486467, bug 328864 [15:51] Launchpad bug 486467 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) ""Error transferring track" (affects: 4)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486467 [15:51] Launchpad bug 328864 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rythmbox plays a short piece of a song and skips to the next song in order (affects: 2)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328864 [15:57] hggdh: #ubuntu-pt sff [16:04] nigelb: send 328864 upstream ... you have adopted the rhythmbox package right ? ;) [16:04] vish: yes [16:04] vish: its painful dealing with a lot of old bugs [16:05] nigelb: thankless , painful jobs are the doc team and the bug squad ;) [16:05] wb ogasawara. long time no see :D [16:05] vish: and the one you are most likely going to get cursed at [16:05] that too :D [16:06] vish: have you ever touched an ubuntu one bug or the one big bug with lots of dups? [16:06] duane got cussed coz he forgot to add the dup comment before duping it [16:07] a big bunch of people got mails and said like "lp notifications suck" and the likes [16:07] oh.. [16:08] nigelb: didnt understand > "have you ever touched an ubuntu one bug or the one big bug with lots of dups? " [16:08] vish: lol, if u have, you would have gotten the mail too [16:09] most people have touched at least one.. there are some 50 dups for that thing [16:10] ah those.. yeah , i must have... nigelb if you dont get yelled at by some reporter it means you havent done enough triaging ;p [16:10] good point [16:21] hggdh: congrats on the move up! [16:22] charlie-tca: thank you very much [16:22] what move up? what have I missed? :) [16:22] :-) [16:22] I'm glad you got something you enjoy. Took me 33 years to get one I liked a lot. [16:23] Then I had to give it up... illness [16:23] sorry. For me it took about 30 years... [16:24] hggdh: you work for canonical now? congrats :) [16:24] Ahh - it's life. At least I got to enjoy it for a while. Now it is all volunteer work, which means I still get to do what I want. [16:25] * vish blinks [16:25] kklimonda: yes, I do [16:25] hggdh: werent you already working for canonical ? [16:25] vish: no... [16:25] hggdh: ah.. congrats :) [16:25] community pretty much like everybody else -- which I still love [16:26] How do you make sure when writing an Apport hook that the report will be marked private when it's reported? [16:26] hgddh: Congratulations with your new job! What is it? ;) [16:27] every apport bugreport will start as a private one [16:27] *I* think [16:27] thekorn: that wasn't always true, you sure? [16:27] no, I'm not sure [16:28] let me read the source [16:29] qense: it is pretty much what I have been doing -- QA, but directed to servers [16:29] hggdh: good luck with the job! [16:29] qense: thank you, I appreciate [16:30] brb -- reboot after a ton of updates on Lucid [16:30] wow, that's complex [16:31] qense: you can run the report against staging and try [16:31] (the apport hook) [16:32] qense, you are safe if the 'DistroRelease' and the 'Traceback' fields have some content [16:32] then this report will always start as private [16:33] thekorn: I'm writing an Apport hook for Gwibber, and with that I want to include the ~/.cache/gwibber/gwibber.log file, which sometimes does contain sensitive data like Facebook uids. I'm not sure if filling the DistroRelease and Traceback fields with garbage would be the right way, I'll look for another solution. Thanks for your effors anyway! [16:34] qense: it sounds as a terrible hack [16:34] qense: you should probably ask pitti [16:35] like a* [16:35] qense: you want the reports to be made private? [16:36] nigelb: yes [16:36] qense: I played around with it some time back. lemme get back to you in 5 mins? [16:36] nigelb: that would be great, sure === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:39] I think all apport bugreports have a DistroSeries and Traceback by default [16:39] and if they don't have a Traceback [16:39] they have a CoreDump, which is another condition for a private report ;) [16:40] so no need to fill in garbage ;) [16:43] qense: okay. there is no direct method that I can find to make it private :( [16:43] nigelb: Ok, thanks for looking for it anway. [16:43] naw problems :) [16:44] qense: do you know which packages the report automatically becomes private? [16:44] nigelb: no [16:44] if you know of one, you can look into its hook to see how its done [16:44] doesn't evolution make reports private? [16:44] I've looked into several hooks, but couldn't find anything about marking it as private. [16:44] I'll look at evolution then [16:45] nigelb: there's no hook for evolution [16:46] qense, don't care about it for now, write the hook, test it on staging, and see if reports are private, I'm pretty sure all report are prive ;) [16:46] private [16:47] thekorn: will do [16:47] could I get someone on Lucid to please test 'ubuntu-bug firefox' with the -0ubuntu4 update? [16:48] btw, there is this comment in an Apport configuration file: "# NOTE this will change Fall '07 when RHT switches to bugzilla 3.x!" [16:48] isn't that a bit old news already? ;) [16:48] qense: go ask pitti in -devel [16:49] micahg: ok [16:50] i will fail if RHT was suing apport, but I don't think they do [16:51] thekorn: according to pitti Fedora decided to NIH Apport, whatever that may mean. [16:51] NIH = not invented here [16:52] NIH: not invented here [16:52] yeah, they did [16:52] ok [16:53] going afk now [17:30] micahg: ubuntu-bug firefox , works with -0ubuntu4 or do you want me to file a test bug? [17:34] seb128: need your help with rhythmbox. Can you ping me when you got time? [17:34] vish: lucid? [17:34] Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu and very new to Lucid. I have 2.6.32-10-generic and 2.6.32-13-generic to choose from in GRUB. If I choose the 2.6.32-13-generic - video isn't properly initialized, although from sounds and behavior I concluded that X is running. I wonder if I shall report it and how to do that [17:34]