[00:42] <Gryllida> Hi. I had a big party. forgot to log off 2 times. a nasty guest imitated a spellingbot at #ubuntu using my IRC client. My IP was banned from that channel, and at #ubuntu-ops they didn't believe that the party finished and that that person (my friend, whom I haven't seen for years) is outside of my country. What can I do?
[00:52] <Gryllida> Help!
[00:53] <persia> Gryllida: This channel really isn't any better in which to ask.
[00:53] <Gryllida> [Gryllida sighs]
[00:53] <persia> Time is what you want, if you plan to be successful.
[00:53] <Gryllida> How can waiting help me?
[00:54] <persia> It creates the impression that you aren't impatient.
[00:56] <Gryllida> I am not. I just know that I have the right to read #ubuntu and to write there. Full, complete right.
[00:58] <Gryllida> I am asking for it here since they said that I shouldn't appear at #ubuntu-ops for next 24 hours or they will ban me from there too.
[00:59] <persia> I understand.  What I suggest is that you don't ask for 24 hours.
[01:00] <persia> Many of the folk from there also idle here.
[01:59] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I hate to burst your bubble but you don't "have" the right. IRC is not a democracy where you have civil rights and all that nice stuff. Unfortunately your client got high jacked and now you have to pay the price. persia is right, be patient and tomorrow sometime go in real nice and patient and speak to the ops.
[02:00] <Gryllida> This "bot" was a human. My client didn't get high jacked. I'm sure because: 1) I know Bob 2) I looked at the bot in the logs, no computer program could have worked like that
[02:01] <Gryllida> Besides, they have all read the things that I wrote there. ALL of them have read them. One of them will un-ban me himself if he suddenly finds me truthful.
[02:02] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I meant high jacked in the sense that it was used without your permission
[02:02] <Gryllida> Bob is not in my country now...
[02:02] <IdleOne> well that doesn't change the fact that Bob still did what he did
[02:03] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I think you should take this as a learning experience. Now you know that you should always secure your computers from being used without permission
[02:04] <m4v> Gryllida: your pc is your responsibility.
[02:04] <Gryllida> I took some security measurements... This was a big family event, he came from far, stayed for two weeks... But you can read all of it in the logs. Stop doing the same questions. I needn't repeat since this all is in the logs. I already told them that I increased sequrity. I already told them PLENTY of things. Discussing all of that from the start again will make me feel even worse...
[02:05] <m4v> just wait until you're unbanned, pushing it further once you have been told to wait will not help
[02:06] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I didn't ask to explain the entire situation and I don't need to read the logs, from the little you have said here I know that YOU are responsible for your computer and how it is used. #ubuntu has rules and it is YOUR responsibility to make sure you follow them. spaming/trolling/repeating and all that is not tollorated in #*buntu channels
[02:07] <IdleOne> Gryllida: it sucks I know but it is what it is. the Ubuntu ops are pretty understanding people and they will probably let you back in
[02:07] <Gryllida> Yes, I think it is not worth discussing here again. You have the story in the logs.
[02:09] <Gryllida> I have increased the security. Bob has departed at 10:00AM UTC. Why don't you just un-ban me? Do you need details about my current security level? I will be glad to give you more details.
[02:09] <Gryllida> the departure is an estimate, Bob isn't a time machine ;)
[02:10] <m4v> we can't unban you, this isn't #ubuntu-ops
[02:10] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I don't have the permissions needed to unban you. what I am trying to explain is that the only way for you to get the ban lifted is by waiting the 24 hours like they told you to
[02:10] <Gryllida> they said that if I don't wait for 24 hours they will ban me at #ubuntu-ops
[02:11] <m4v> Gryllida: you only need to wait 24hs
[02:11] <IdleOne> it's one day, #ubuntu is logged if you have the need to read it that bad
[02:11] <IdleOne> btw all those ops are in here also
[02:12] <IdleOne> but talking to them about it in here will only make things worse I suspect
[02:13] <IdleOne> in the meantime there is always #ubuntu-offtopic which can be entertaining at times. Remember the Ubuntu rules of conduct apply there also
[02:13] <IdleOne> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:14] <IdleOne> Gryllida: ^^
[02:14] <Gryllida> Thanks!
[02:14] <IdleOne> sure thing, next time ask before messaging someone :)
[02:17] <IdleOne> Gryllida: please stop messaging me. I don't have any magic persuasion powers over the ops
[02:17] <Gryllida> sorry
[02:17] <Gryllida> Thanks for the solution to my question.
[02:17] <IdleOne> no problem
[02:17] <IdleOne> seriously though if you are in the mood for chat #ubuntu-offtopic is the place
[02:18] <Gryllida> I think my questions are mostly "support" questions, since I am not a person who likes to waste time.
[02:34] <Gryllida> IdleOne, Anyhow, I was just idling here, and it was you who spoke about "no rights". Sorry for telling this, but I was patient and silent before your phrase. So I will be in some next time.
[02:35] <IdleOne> Gryllida: I was responding to what you had said and just thought that clarification was needed
[02:36] <Gryllida> I will be glad to be of any help if any more clarification is needed.
[02:37] <IdleOne> hehe, I meant to clarify your rights to you
[02:38] <IdleOne> IRC is a priviledge not a right
[02:41] <Gryllida> I will be glad to receive this privilege since I am not going to abuse it at all. I will be glad if somebody finds these words interesting.
[02:55] <Gryllida> IdleOne, how does a man become an "operator"?
[04:04] <Gryllida> !logs
[04:04] <ubott2> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[04:16] <Gryllida> !es
[04:16] <ubott2> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[04:16] <bazhang> Gryllida, something you needed?
[04:16] <bazhang> Gryllida, please /msg ubott2 for that
[04:17] <Gryllida> not completely sure. I'm just wondering where ubottu is.
[04:17] <Gryllida> Yes, I will /msg ubott2
[04:17] <bazhang> Gryllida, you are querying where ubottu ?
[04:17] <Gryllida> mot my main question, actually... you know
[04:18] <bazhang> Gryllida, in a PM /msg nickserv?
[04:19] <Gryllida> sorry, i'll find where to test it, i'm not very good at it
[04:19] <bazhang> Gryllida, test what
[04:19] <Gryllida> test " /msg nickserv"
[05:37] <Gryllida> ubottu hi
[06:01] <Gryllida> !ubottu
[06:01] <bazhang> Gryllida, please /msg ubottu  if you must; better to read the factoids link
[06:02] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi   <----- Gryllida
[06:03] <Gryllida> bazhang, sorry... I am talking with ubottu, yes! But when I said "!ubottu" to it then I got the reply "Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot..." Sounded strange, that's why I typed it here. It is very interesting to talk with ubottu, and I have already visited this page ;)
[06:04] <bazhang> Gryllida, this is not the channel to test bot commands
[06:06] <Gryllida> Yes, I know "!language" thing. I've explained you my input here.
[06:07] <bazhang> Gryllida, this is for loco operators, not to test bot commands
[06:08] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/clone.html Gryllida build your own botclone and test on your channel
[06:09] <Gryllida> [Gryllida sighs]
[06:24] <jussi01> bazhang: you can also refer people to #ubuntu-bots
[06:25] <bazhang> jussi01, good call, my oversight; thanks
[11:56] <erUSUL> !intelhda
[12:11] <guntbert> ping ikonia
[18:07]  * Linuks83 is away: I'm busy
[18:08] <rww> ubottu: away > Linuks83
[20:19] <erUSUL> Myrtti: been in #ubuntu before with the same attitude (just to insult)
[20:21] <Myrtti> erUSUL: good to know, I'll ban next time
[21:11] <arand> Myrtti: sorry, but may I inquire on the progress of the !pae factoid, again :-)
[21:11] <Myrtti> !pae
[21:11] <Myrtti> ikonia was about to do it today, but I guess he got sidetracked
[21:13] <ikonia> I did, worked called, I've got some notes
[21:13] <ikonia> I'll pick it up "now"
[21:13] <ikonia> took my ages to go through the logs
[21:13] <arand> Ah, ok, sorry being a bit pushy :)
[21:13] <ikonia> not at all
[21:28] <guntbert> ikonia: it seems they got *one* to do all the factoids work :-)