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[09:55] <davidekholm> Hi. I'm the founder of Jalbum (http://jalbum.net). We've just adopted our web photo album software for Ubuntu and packaged it as a .deb package
[09:55] <davidekholm> Can anyone here give me guidance on how to get Jalbum into "Ubuntu Software Center"
[09:56] <davidekholm>  We're true freeware, no crippleware, but Jalbum is only 50% open source
[09:58] <davidekholm> Jalbum is very popular on Windows and Mac with over 5 million downloads and over 26 million published web albums to servers all over the world. Now we want to give Ubuntu users a proper experience of our software. I figure, getting into "Ubuntu Software Center" is the ideal path.
[10:02] <slytherin> davidekholm: I don't know yet if Ubuntu Software Center can list third party applications. You will have to ask about that on #ubuntu-devel.
[10:02] <slytherin> davidekholm: If you want to get Jalbum in ubuntu repository then #ubuntu-motu is the channel. But we are in feature freeze so it is unlikely that new software will be accepted in repositories.
[10:06] <davidekholm> Thanks for this info!
[10:07] <davidekholm> Can you tell me if there is any difference between what's available on "Ubuntu Software Center" and when I issue "apt-get <package name>" from the command prompt. Sorry for these newbie questions.
[10:08] <davidekholm> Right now we've just made our application available on our site, but I figure there are more ways to make it available to the Ubuntu community if "Ubuntu Software Center" is closed.
[10:09] <slytherin> davidekholm: There is no difference. AFAIK, software center lists applications from repository only (as of no now).
[10:09] <davidekholm> Ok. Thanks
[10:10] <davidekholm> Does it work this way that there is one default Ubuntu repository preconfigured in Ubuntu, but users can add more repositories to browse apps from?
[10:12] <slytherin> davidekholm: Yes it does.
[10:13] <davidekholm> Ok, but should I assume that 90% Ubuntu users don't care to add more repositories to their app browser? I.e. is it worth the effort to trying to get into other repositories than the default?
[10:15] <slytherin> davidekholm: Most users don't add extra repositories.
[10:15] <davidekholm> I figured that. So, I should contact MOTU, right?
[10:16] <slytherin> right
[10:16] <davidekholm> Thank you for your assistance. If you haven't checked out Jalbum, now's the time :-) All at http://jalbum.net/software
[10:17] <davidekholm> (We run a hosting service too, that's how we make revenue. However we don't force any users to use it. With Jalbum you can publish web photo albums to any server in the world)
[20:43] <hannesw_> doko: will the openjdk/rhino bug be fixed in Lucid as it stands?
[20:43] <hannesw_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/255149/comments/16
[20:43] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 255149 in openbravo "javascript script support through rhino should not be on bootclasspath" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:43] <hannesw_> as i understand, lucid uses openjdk 6b17, based on icedTea 1.7
[20:55] <persia> hannesw_: The comment you cite is the upload of b18 to lucid.
[20:56] <persia> What goal to you seek to have accomplished?
[20:56] <hannesw_> persia: I want that bug fixed in lucid
[20:56] <hannesw_> and was wondering if the fix needs to be backported to icedTea 1.7 in order to achieve that
[20:56] <persia> The comment you cite claims that it is.  Have you tested to confirm this is or is not the case?
[20:57] <hannesw_> http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179#c11
[20:57] <ubottu> icedtea.classpath.org bug 179 in IcedTea6 "javascript script support through rhino should not be on bootclasspath" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[20:57] <persia> I'm sure doko believes it fixed, or the changelog wouldn't read as it does.
[20:57] <hannesw_> no, but package info for lucid says it's using openjdk 6b17, based on icedTea 1.7
[20:57] <hannesw_> that's why i'm asking.
[20:58] <persia> What is your source of "package info"?
[20:58] <hannesw_> the packages db on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:59] <persia> Ah.  That's usually out of date by a day or two at lesat.
[20:59] <hannesw_> ok
[20:59] <persia> And the upload of b18 was only about 45 minutes ago.
[20:59] <persia> (based on the comment you cited)
[20:59] <hannesw_> good to know
[20:59] <hannesw_> thank you!
[20:59] <persia> No problem.
[20:59] <persia> Do you have a lucid chroot available?
[20:59] <hannesw_> nope, haven't installed it yet
[21:00] <persia> Are you running karmic?
[21:00] <hannesw_> yes
[21:00] <persia> If you install ubuntu-dev-tools, and accept the recommendation on pbuilder, you can construct a chroot for testing some stuff (including this bug) easily.
[21:00] <persia> Run `pbuilder-dist lucid create` to download the minimum and create a chroot (on a karmic system).
[21:01] <persia> Then run `pbuilder-dist lucid login` to log into it.
[21:01] <persia> You can then install packages, run stuff, etc.
[21:01] <hannesw_> cool, thanks for the tips. will try this now.
[21:01] <persia> GUI stuff won't work without more effort, nor will anything that is kernel-dependent, or requires stuff in initramfs, etc, but for any bugs of this class it's a handy way to test without a full upgrade.
[21:02] <persia> If it's not fixed, you'll want to report your results soonest, so that it can be fixed.
[21:02] <persia> IF it is fixed, you'll be sure it's fixed, rather than relying on hearsay (even a trustworthy person may be busy at a given moment, or rushed, or make a minor mistake locally).
[21:03] <persia> You may have to wait a couple hours to have openjdk-6 6b18~pre1-0ubuntu1 available: it needs to get compiled first :)
[21:04] <hannesw_> perfect! thanks a lot
[21:05] <persia> Thanks for helping test Java.  We like it to work, but rely on testers to make sure it really does :)