[00:11] Hello! Please let me in #ubuntu ! [00:13] Hello. Please let me in #ubuntu. I currrently can't send to that channel. [00:22] Gryllida: You've asked a lot, and carried most of the traffic in this channel for some time. Maybe take a break, and ask again in 12 or 24 hours. [00:34] Gryllida: please /part this channel for at least 24h, or i will ban you from -ops. [00:34] Sorry@ [00:41] * mneptok blinks [00:47] he was in #fn complaining about the ban [00:47] not sure why he came back in here [00:54] 06:03 -!- Gryllida [~chatzilla@211.51.202.207] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by Myrtti (see you in 24h)] [00:54] (it is now 1754 local) [00:54] 06:18 < Gryllida> Don't worry, I will come back in a week after I install Ubuntu. Then I think Bob will talk with you about it. [00:55] so he's out of chances, as far as i'm concerned [00:56] and if all the traffic is to be believed, having Bob back is less than ideal. [00:57] fire walk with me. [00:58] It's been ages since I thought about Laura : thanks :) [00:58] * mneptok sends persia back to MISSOULA IN MONTANAAAAAAAAAAA! [02:58] Sorry, I just want to ask whether I can see #ubuntu channel in read-only mode at least, since I was banned from it. Thanks for attention. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:18] @login [03:18] hmm... [03:19] . [03:19] apparently I scared the bot off. Oops. [03:21] In ubott2, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [03:22] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:22] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:23] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:23] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:24] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:25] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:26] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:27] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:27] ... [03:28] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:29] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:30] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:31] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:31] o_o [03:32] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:32] argh [03:32] never seen this before. who's problem is ubott2? [03:33] s/who's/whose [03:33] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:34] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:34] Something broke... [03:34] Evidently so. [03:35] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:36] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:37] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:37] anyone else getting PM'd by "Gryllida"? He/she/it PM'd me out of the blue as soon as I logged in here 20 min ago [03:37] something about a ban he/she/it feels is grossly unfair [03:38] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:38] I've gotten some, but I probably invited it. [03:39] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:40] Madpilot, yes, he is PM'ing me as well as asking about his ban in #ubuntu-irc ; he joined #ubuntu-ru a bit ago as well [03:40] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:40] Dear lord. [03:40] would kicking ubott2 help? [03:40] thinks he has a 'right' to join #ubuntu [03:40] Is ubott2 constantly enquiring about ubottu? [03:40] hm [03:40] just a second [03:40] Madpilot: It would still flood services. [03:41] (I'm old-school, most issues on IRC can be solved with a kick...) ;-) [03:41] :D [03:41] lets see if that did it [03:41] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:41] I muted it in #xubuntu , err nope [03:41] apparently not [03:42] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:42] I bet it is a user [03:43] gryllida was doing that 'who is ubottu ' alot earlier [03:43] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:44] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:45] this is every minute, though. Someone could be running a script, I guess, or we've just discovered some new bug in the bot<->services interaction. [03:45] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:45] true [03:46] you're probably right, with all the weird klines of ubottu/random users the last day or so [03:46] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:47] eh? [03:47] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:47] sun flares affecting the bots [03:47] ah [03:48] I was going to say those klines were fixed within minutes [03:48] and ubottu was doing quite well the rest of the day from what i saw.. [03:48] yep not faulting anyone [03:48] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:48] just the general weirdness makes this seem all so a propos [03:49] can't even blame it on the full moon [03:49] because it's just a sliver past new right now :) [03:49] Chinese New Year! bad fengshui [03:49] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:50] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:51] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:51] We could ask staff to kill ubott2; surely it'll reconnect? [03:52] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:52] bazhang, Madpilot? [03:53] MenZa, ? [03:53] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:53] can't hurt - we do have further backup bots, who hopefully don't also suffer from whatever is afflicting ubott2... [03:53] bazhang: Oh I'm not disagreeing.. its definitely acting weird [03:54] You have no way of restarting ubott2? [03:54] So, should I hop over to freenode and ask for a kind staffer to kill it in the hopes of that solving the issue? [03:54] s/freenode/#freenode [03:54] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:55] heh [03:55] there are staff in here atm :) [03:55] err active [03:55] Sure, but I don't want to hilight the ones potentially hiding away in the dark! [03:55] Any staff currently observing this? [03:55] * MenZa looks around. [03:55] hehe [03:55] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:55] * MenZa runs to #freenode [03:56] Dominian: Awake. [03:56] yep [03:56] let me see [03:56] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:56] Kill off ubott2, would you kindly? Hopefully that'll fix this little loop of infinite questions. [03:57] no worries.. give me a few [03:57] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:57] cheers [03:58] I'll see if that's something we can help you with or not :) [03:58] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [03:59] Perfect [03:59] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:00] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:01] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:02] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:03] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:04] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:05] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:06] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:07] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:08] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:09] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:10] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:11] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:13] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:14] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:14] still checkin' guys sorry lots going on [04:14] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:16] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:17] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:18] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:18] not really a freenode issue tbh [04:19] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:19] bazhang: Nope, but killing ubott2 might be a good cue to shut up :p [04:20] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:20] gryllida indicates he/she has been checking where ubottu is [04:20] once a minute? [04:20] for the last hour? [04:21] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:21] who knows, doubtful I know [04:21] Sorry guys.. just heard from on high that we can't /kill it for you [04:22] * MenZa nods [04:22] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:22] Understandable [04:22] you guys have no way of messaging the bot to restart it? [04:22] I don't think we're quite sure who's running it. [04:22] @login [04:22] hmm [04:22] Actually... [04:22] The operation succeeded. [04:23] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:24] Dominian, different backups of ubottu are run by different people... [04:24] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:24] ahhh [04:25] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:25] @login [04:25] The operation succeeded. [04:26] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:26] hrm I wonder if nickserv thinks that ubottu isn't auth'd or something [04:26] tonyyarusso, gord -- either of you able to @quit the bot or restart it somehow? [04:27] In ubott2, NickServ said: ubottu is not online. [04:27] Dominian: It's likely a change from hyperion to seven it doesn't seem to understand [04:27] ahh [04:27] or so I'd assume [04:27] I don't know, is it the same umode? ns info output? [04:28] wonder who the owner of 'SwingBot' is mohadib someone from the looks of it [04:29] bazhang: Ban the bot's hostmask. [04:29] And engage mohadib in a query [04:29] you see mohadib somewhere? [04:30] Currently online. [04:30] Alternatively, there's MemoServ. [04:33] hrm [04:34] yeah it appears according to nickserv info on ubottu.. its not logged in [04:34] bot removed (Swingbot , that is ) [04:34] Dominian: ubott2 has been told to pipe down for the next five hours. [04:35] lol [04:35] Well according to /whois ubottu.. from what I can tell isn't even on the server.. hasn't been for over an hor [04:35] er.. hour [04:35] correct [04:35] It died somewhere some hours ago [04:35] ahhh [04:36] Well, splits. [04:36] so that explained why ubott2 was being pissy [04:36] I have this theory that ubott2 and ubottu are the same client, with ubott2 being an alt nick. [04:36] I am, however, not sure of that. [04:36] ohhh hrm. [04:36] ubott2 simply checks to see if ubottu has been freed up, so it can change nicks. [04:36] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:36] well nickserv info on ubott2 seems to confirm that [04:36] ohhhhhh [04:36] MenZa: I know what the issue is I bet [04:37] And instead of interpreting the response from NickServ as "yeah, you can change nick now", it interprets it literally. [04:37] or not.. hrm.. no enforce set on it [04:38] My theory, then [04:38] aye [04:38] Is that if it's knocked off the network completely and forced to reconnect, it will attempt to connect as ubottu. [04:38] * Dominian nods [04:38] sounds like a sound theory [04:38] haha [04:38] The alternative, of course, is that we're botless until jpds gets out of bed in, I dunno, 6 hours? [04:39] But I *think* it'll reconnect [04:39] * MenZa looks at the source code [04:39] (yay, launchpad) [04:39] Hmm, it's in supybot trunk I think [04:41] eurgh, gitweb [04:41] It should reconnect automatically. [04:41] * MenZa considers flooding it off. <__< [04:42] It would require a collaborative effort! [04:42] :D [05:23] @nick ubottu === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:23] yeehah [05:24] it kept on getting 433 message (Nickname is already in use) [05:25] then it kept trying to ghost it, which apparently didn't work [05:28] tsimpson: ahh [05:28] hazzah [05:28] tsimpson: nhandler made it ignore NickServ for a period, perhaps you can lift that [05:29] done [05:32] lovely [05:50] heh [05:51] gad to see you guys got it done :) [05:54] Dominian: did you see if anyone was using the nick "ubottu" at all? [05:54] tsimpson: no one was on it [05:55] hmm, odd [05:56] it started when the bot got a 433, then it started sending /ns ghost commands, but it just never stopped [05:56] it probably needs to know about the release command too [05:58] I'm probably going to have to rewrite another one of the supybot plugins now [06:04] hrm [06:04] tsimpson: might be a good idea to do release instead of ghost? and set enforce on the nicks [06:05] Dominian: it's one of the default plugins that comes with supybot, so I'll need to rewrite it to be less insane [06:05] whoa nasty parting comment from cann0n [06:11] i'd banforward here [06:12] okay [06:12] he talked about telling people to use GOOG so i threw the !google factoid at him. so he should know better than to recommend Google, and should not be so belligerent. [06:14] so mode #channel @unaffiliated/cann0n #ubuntu-ops ? [06:14] err +b [06:14] /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/cann0n$#ubuntu-ops [06:14] right, thanks Flannel [06:16] i always read that new syntax as "slash unaffiliated slash cann0n CH-CHING hash ubuntu ops" [06:17] o/ [06:17] hope that works^^ [06:52] chimpout guy in -ot now [07:22] K'day [07:39] people talking about UF in #ubuntu, and I keep thinking why are they talking about userfriendly [07:40] Myrtti: As far as I'm concerned, it is. Forums are silly creatures, and almost a decade earlier [07:40] er, UF is almost a decade earlier [07:43] not that I read it, or particularly like it, but a boyfriend in a previous life did [07:46] I should probably /part #freenode, the whole channel acts as a source of lolz to me more than anything else [08:21] good morning [08:52] oh well [09:20] *yawn* [10:23] Haha. [10:25] Oh, so it wasn't my fault. [10:32] hi. why am I banned from #ubuntu ? [10:33] still the same reason [10:33] i know the reason why i was banned at the beginning, but why am i banned now? [10:35] i know how it started, but i don't see why it didn't stop [10:41] What should I do to be let in #ubuntu now? [11:01] Now he's in #ubuntu-uk. [11:01] popey: ^^ [11:02] lo [11:03] 10:50:10 -!- Gryllida [~chatzilla@211.51.202.207] has left #ubuntu-uk [] [11:03] Ah, hmm. [11:04] * popey cleans jpds' glasses [11:04] Why, thank you. [11:08] I thought #ubuntu-california had been forwarded to #ubuntu-us-ca and not the other way around? I guess I've missed the memo [11:09] that's how it should be, errr [11:09] Myrtti, it has to work like that, otherwise georgia the state would have to battle it out with georgia the country [11:10] [13:06] [freenode] ~~~#ubuntu-us-ca #ubuntu-california Forwarding to another channel [11:11] I don't particularly care which way it is, but just wondered [11:12] hm, there is a flwa in that logic, if it says #ubuntu-us- it is not causing problems with georgia in Europe, the other way round it might be problematic, no? [11:12] flaw* [11:12] since #ubuntu-georgia is confusing [11:15] well, confusing or not, it should be ubuntu-<2-letter landcode> as startingpoint [11:16] I guess people will explain it once they wake up [11:16] it is 0316 in CA now [11:26] Please ub-ban me... Today I've tried to help one person at #ubuntu-es and another one at #ubuntu-uk... No things will be possible without my permission at my IP at my IRC client since I have configured automatic log off. Is there anything else I should do? [11:27] for the record I don't see you giving help in #ubuntu-uk, but having a friendly chat with other members of the loco. [11:28] one man asked about Skype for blueberry there, if I remember it right [11:29] ok, here's the deal. [11:29] Gryllida: what have you done to make sure such incidents that we witnessed earlier will not happen again? [11:29] Gryllida: Err, no, you just talked about Gecko. [11:31] please give me a link to a log of the UK channel, i will find the time (i suppose) [11:31] sidetracked again... *Sigh* [11:32] Myrtti: I have configured automatic log off in 1 minute after I am away [11:32] Gryllida: have you read the channel guidelines and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct? [11:32] Mamarok: if that is support question? (: [11:33] Tm_T: yeah, just got aware of that... [11:34] Myrtti: I have. [11:35] Gryllida: can you give me a short answer on why do you think you or your friends were banned from the channel based on what you read? [11:36] that is, why is it wrong to play around in #ubuntu, acting or operating a bot? [11:37] The "spellingbot" was not respectful to other members of the chat. And was off-topic [11:39] ok, hold on. [11:39] The bot was speaking about a person instead of topic, and did repeat its statements multiple times - should have waited for a reply patiently. [11:42] I'm holding on. [11:44] do you understand that if you cause trouble on the channel again, you will be banned for a longer period? [11:44] I do understand this statement. [11:44] or rather, you'll have to work a lot harder trying to convince us that you'll not misbehave again? [11:44] good. [11:45] your ban is now lifted. [11:46] I confirm this statement and thank you for your attention. [12:03] that was brief... [12:03] I guess he didn't need to access the channel then [12:10] colour me surprised. === jayne_ is now known as jayne [13:12] !logs [13:12] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [13:17] !here is Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com [13:17] I'll remember that, ikonia [13:17] !here [13:17] here is Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com [13:18] ikonia: [13:18] ughhh [13:18] how about that pae factoid? [13:19] I'll do it now - let me fix one thing at a time [13:19] ok [13:19] can I update that with !no ? or do I have to re-do it ? [13:20] !no, here is Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all [13:20] uhhhh [13:20] I'll remember that ikonia [13:20] !no, here is Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com [13:21] remember it !!!!! [13:22] !here [13:22] Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use paste.ubuntu.com [13:22] ahh [13:24] Myrtti: ok, lets do pae, do you have any notes on it (I remember an early discussion) [13:24] none, I'm not a connoisseru [13:24] s/ru$/ur/ [13:25] ok, I'll put something together for review quickly [13:25] the logs have the suggestion of course [13:26] I'll see if I can find the conversation I remember [14:04] overmind called the ops in #ubuntu () [14:05] looking [14:08] should I smack Seveas or no? [14:09] yeah, I know it's the shadyurl service [14:09] but still [14:09] Myrtti: [Freenode] [!] There is no such nick no [14:09] Myrtti: So I guess you'll have to smack Seveas. [14:09] last time I did he got a hissy fit [14:29] In ubottu, Some_Person said: defrag is "The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext4) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this." [14:32] * genii pours coffee down his feeding tube [14:43] genii: You'd like my new mug. [14:43] genii: It's like a bucket. [14:43] MenZa: nobeody told you? it IS a bucket [14:43] -typos [14:43] with RED and BLU stickers on the sides! [14:45] MenZa: I broke my old 64 ounce mug last year, haven't been able to find another one yet [14:45] * genii steals MenZa's coffeebucket! [14:46] Jesus Christ, genii [14:46] A two litre mug? [14:46] This one's 16oz [14:46] Which is big enough for me [14:48] sorry, my heart just tore itself to two [14:49] the idea of a two liter mug makes me weep [14:52] for joy? [14:54] no, of pain [14:54] why not use coffee pot directly? [14:58] just chew on the coffee beans [14:59] coffee pot takes too long ;) [15:00] Tm_T: Because the mug I had would keep the coffee warm for an hour whereas the carafe wouldn't, also it's awkward to sip out the side of a coffeepot [15:01] thermosflasks [15:01] genii: i pisked one up at a gas station ~2 months ago [15:35] http://isthemusicstorereadyyet.com/ X-D [15:36] (via Daviey) [15:38] heh, thanks. [15:38] Myrtti: so simple page and yet broken style ): [15:44] * gnomefreak wonders if im the only one that got pmed by new_user [16:02] Hi, there are 3 spanish guys talking spanish in #ubuntu [16:03] Okay, thanks Myrtti. :) [16:55] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [16:57] DasEi called the ops in #ubuntu () [17:01] mier.... what a great nick. [18:06] !ping [18:06] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [18:06] @ping [18:06] pong [18:12] how come !fi and !fi-#ubuntu differ? [18:12] !fi [18:12] Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi [18:12] !fi-#ubuntu [18:12] Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-) [18:12] no idea [18:13] except the #ubuntu one directsts people for help there and says that the channel is english only [18:14] !no, fi is Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-) [18:14] I'll remember that jussi01 [18:14] jussi01: was about to say that, thanks (: [18:49] Same user just here shit-disturbing in #u just now [18:51] changed their name and returned with same (had booted but no +b til 2nd time) [19:05] * genii sips [20:21] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:21] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:21] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [20:22] genii: which one do we leave in? [20:23] Myrtti: Which ban? [20:24] yeah [20:24] Myrtti: I'll remove mine if you want [20:24] sure [20:25] gaudi may be "iloveass" "theprick" etc [20:56] @login [20:56] The operation succeeded. [20:56] what an apt nick [20:57] ikonia: just going to check on "ubyserver" [21:00] nothing's jumping out at me [21:00] nope [21:00] he's listening/interacting now anyway [21:01] i'm sorry, did you say something? >;) === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [23:26] I'm so bored I'm upgrading my work laptop to Lucid. [23:27] MenZa: bold move... [23:27] Rather. [23:27] I can't say I'm *that* dependent on the thing though ;) [23:45] hey, it boots a lot more than it used too! [23:47] if it wern't for the crazy stuff my team keeps putting in it would be even better! [23:52] haha