[00:01] Any ideas on how to get past Bug #514012 when upgrading from karmic to lucid (server, no X)? [00:01] Launchpad bug 514012 in mountall "cyclic dependency between mountall and libplymouth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514012 [00:08] has no one using server tried upgrading to lucid since the 29th Jan since this bug appeared? [00:11] New bug: #524142 in nis (universe) "on shut or reboot, sticks on "shutting down alsa"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524142 [00:11] New bug: #524143 in postfix (main) "#522797" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524143 [00:19] kirkland: hi! [00:19] kirkland: were you able to install UEC on the test rig? [00:20] mathiaz: huh? [00:20] kirkland: I'm running into bug 524147 [00:20] Launchpad bug 524147 in eucalyptus "UEC NC failed to fetch preseed.conf from CC using lucid-server-amd64-20100218" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524147 [00:20] mathiaz: i thought you were reinstalling with 4 nodes? [00:20] mathiaz: i was able to install topo2 earlier today [00:20] kirkland: yes - the CLC+Walrus+CC+SC is working [00:20] kirkland: but the NCs fail [00:20] mathiaz: hmm, i got a nc working [00:21] kirkland: was there an upload of eucalyptus that could have fixed bug 524147? [00:21] kirkland: I'm using an iso rather that the archive [00:21] kirkland: so this is with 1.6.2-0ubuntu1 [00:22] mathiaz: hmm, i did one upload today, fixing bug #523826 [00:22] Launchpad bug 523826 in eucalyptus "Second node autoregistration fails with "Not a candidate for local cluster" error" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523826 [00:23] kirkland: hm well. I don't know then. [00:23] kirkland: at least I can confirm that the scripts on tamarind are working with isos [00:23] kirkland: btw: I'm trying to see if lucid has the same issue as karmic with Bug #495394 , but I can't upgrade the host cos of #514012 so it might be a while before I can help on that. :( [00:23] Launchpad bug 495394 in libvirt "autostart almost always fails on boot time host" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495394 [00:24] cef: okay [00:24] kirkland: I suggest you take the test rig to conduct the rest of your tests [00:25] (more just a fyi, but any help with #514012 would of course be nice.. #ubuntu+1 has been no help now for 2 days... :( [00:25] mathiaz: um, not sure i can do much if it's busted as such [00:25] mathiaz: i'm about to call it a night anyway [00:25] kirkland: ok [00:56] New bug: #524158 in elinks (universe) "needs -dump-charset in elinks.mime" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524158 [00:56] New bug: #524159 in postfix (main) "I clicked "cancel" when it tried to install the mail program" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524159 [01:01] hello. My syslog is filled with these messages: http://pastebin.com/m43e147ae [01:01] is this something that I need to worry about, or would be slowing down my machine? [01:01] or could lead to data corruption? [01:07] Italian_Plumber: I personally wouldn't trust it seeing that.. but that is more just me than a definitive answer [01:07] Italian_Plumber: what brand/model drive? [01:07] Seagate [01:08] model # ?? [01:09] actually Western Digital Caviat Green WD10EADS [01:12] hrm.. no idea but those green drives do have some weird power saving features.. [01:12] are you running smartd at all? [01:13] I'm running it through an SATA PCI interface card, so I'm not sure. I would assume not. [01:13] MB is PCChipps M830LR [01:13] ~8 year old board [01:14] just seen similar errors to that on lkml (google search) when certain versions of smartd is running [01:15] well i'm not sure how I would turn smart support on... siince the drive doesn't show up in the MB's BIOS. So prolly ont [01:16] fair enough.. but is the smartd daemon running on the machine at all? [01:17] no smartd process, no [01:17] ok.. well that rules that out. [01:18] sorry, dunno. but I'd be watching the data on that drive [01:19] hmm... well thanks for the suggestion anyway. [01:28] zul: soren: nijaba: can someone add me to lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2, please? [01:35] can I ping myself by making my computer think I'm another given ip ? [02:41] hi guys i am looking for a software to distribute from the server antivirus and applications any idea? [02:48] how can I alias eth0 with r8169 in Karmic server? which file is for aliases. I have nothing under /etc/modprobe.d [02:54] nm-I made my own file under /etc/modprobe.d realtek.conf [02:55] I blacklist ipv6 and alias eth0 r8169 [02:56] friggin module loads, but eth0 never appears [02:57] its like there is an LSP/trojan/virus [02:59] do I have to set the HWADDR from lspci? [02:59] do you have another device as eth0? [02:59] no- onboard nic rtl 8111/r8168B [03:00] does it show up as eth1 or something else? or not at all? [03:00] nada [03:00] checked dmesg? [03:00] only lo and virbr [03:00] yes dmesg says there is a rename from udev- can't figure why [03:01] eth0 -> eth1 but it never shows either [03:01] checked /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ? [03:01] not yet - what to look for? [03:01] whatever it gets detected as, it has that name from then on [03:01] the mac of the adapter [03:01] k - looking now [03:02] it keeps the adapter persistent ALWAYS... so it stays the same.. you can edit that and remove any entries you don't want [03:02] ah - sounds like the ticket [03:02] np [03:03] might want to remove that alias though [03:04] there are 2 entries. one mac is right the other strange [03:04] just delete the other line then [03:04] comment it is OK? [03:05] yup! [03:05] back in a few. thanks Cef [03:06] np [04:04] is it possible to apt-get install a package, but not start it? [04:04] ie is there a generic deb way to do it? [04:13] oh_noes: do you mean a server package that normally starts the service? [04:14] Yep [04:14] for example, NTP [04:14] is it possible to "set VAR="DONOTSTART" && apt-get install ntp [04:14] for example? [04:16] not like that (AFAIK), but depending on whether it uses upstart or sysvinit, you could probably pre-create a config [04:16] oh_noes: don't think so, but I know where you are coming from.. you could possibly unpack it and edit the postinst script to do it, but I doubt anything like that is in there by default [04:17] hrmmm .. i thought a mechanism did exist for this. Maybe I was just dreaming though [04:17] editing the postinst script is another possibility yeah [04:17] yeh I know I can do that [04:17] actually yeah JanC's idea is a good one, or you could divert the init.d or upstart script? [04:18] the package is sysvinit [04:18] more and more services don't start by default anymore [04:18] (eg: ntp) [04:18] or have a setting in /etc/default/ to handle that [04:29] hi i am looking for a scrip to detect who is running a program in the server. somebody have any idea? i mean user, ip? [04:29] hi i am looking for a scrip to detect who is running a program in the server. somebody have any idea? i mean user, ip? [04:33] kirkland, zul or anyone else, if you happen to see this, please accept bug 522292 nomination for lucid [04:33] Launchpad bug 522292 in cloud-utils "Lucid UEC image 20100215 unable to start on UEC" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522292 [04:33] smoser: done [04:33] kirkland, go to bed! [04:34] or sponsor that bug, either one is fine [04:34] smoser: our cloud-utils, cloud-init trees are wicked out of sync [04:34] :) [04:34] hm... [04:34] smoser: you have a fix? [04:34] kirkland: yeah, weren't you going about 4 hrs ago? ;) [04:34] its fixed in that branch that is linked. in cloud-utils. [04:34] so not really fixed, but worked around [04:34] the real bug is in euca2ools [04:35] smoser: let me check [04:36] New bug: #524226 in openssh (main) "ssh-authorize - retrieve a key from a public keyserver and add to the authorized_keys file" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524226 [04:37] smoser: okay, this cloud-utils ready for upload, then? [04:38] i think so. yeah. [04:41] smoser: i think we should be versioning these 0.4-0ubuntu1 [04:41] smoser: or are you versioning them the way you are on purpose? [04:42] it is 0.4-0ubuntu1 now [04:43] at least i pushed that just 10 minutes ago [04:43] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/cloud-utils [04:43] okay, and this is where our branches got out of sync ... [04:43] smoser: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-utils [04:44] smoser: i uploaded a 0.4-0ubuntu1 earlier today [04:44] for the love of pete [04:44] i pulled from lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils tonight [04:44] i really hate that that gets out of sync [04:45] smoser: yeah, well, we just need to get you write access to the same trees that we have [04:45] smoser: i asked you to pull from that junk branch of mine earlier [04:45] smoser: oh well [04:46] Could I expect Ubuntu Server to run properly on an IBM x3250? [04:54] ball: almost certainly yes [04:55] kirkland: Thanks. I'll be back shortly, I need to go and do something. [04:56] smoser: okay, i'm ready to upload [04:56] ok. [04:56] revamped ssh-authorize [04:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/379529/ [04:56] smoser: check this ... [04:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/379530/ [04:56] oops. that had a debug in it [04:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/379531/ [04:57] that looks fine. [04:57] basically, my goal with that "dev tree" is to get it with the same ancestry as the cloud-utils [04:57] as lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils [04:58] so that it can be pushed there [04:58] smoser: well that's fancier [04:59] and for the record, i hate 'sh -e' [04:59] i think its a copout for proper error handling [05:00] smoser: i hate scripts that aren't set -e [05:00] thats because you've been brainwashed by debian [05:00] no offense to anyone here [05:00] smoser: the "proper error handling" part is a trap ERR in the body. [05:01] IME, sh scripts *WILL NOT EVER* be able to manually catch all possible error conditions. [05:01] but seriously, set -e is like coding in C with assert() wrapping everything [05:01] twb that is no different in sh than it is in any other programing language [05:01] s/no different/no more true/ [05:01] smoser: so instead of doing that, you'd rather just let that NULL propagate all the way up the call tree before it fails? [05:01] smoser: okay ffs [05:01] ffs? [05:02] For Fuck's Sake [05:02] for fucks sake [05:02] ah. [05:02] anyway. [05:02] smoser: the two different branches are driving me nuts [05:02] yes, but seriously, catching the errors as they come and giving reasonable output to the user rather than just exiting and leaving the output in some borked state is not nice [05:02] err... thats not a sentance [05:03] smoser: okay, i need you do to this synchronously for me [05:03] do what? [05:04] smoser: pull from my branch [05:04] smoser: and then push upstream [05:04] smoser: and then i will re-pull from you, sponsor and upload [05:04] ok. where is your branch ? [05:05] lp:~kirkland/+junk/cloud-utils [05:05] smoser: "just exiting" means that you haven't used a trap ERR. [05:05] which no one ever does when they use set -e [05:05] I do. [05:05] smoser: i use traps [05:05] There's no point trapping ERR if you don't set -e. [05:05] smoser: when necessary [05:06] e.g. http://twb.ath.cx/Preferences/.bin/with-temp-dir [05:06] i trap exit and cleanup correctly. [05:06] Hmm, bad example :-) [05:06] in my experience, more scripts that have 'set -e' just stop, leaving me no idea why it failed (often no indication that it did). [05:07] so anyway [05:07] yeah, you can do it right [05:07] either way. [05:07] trap 'echo >&2 "$0: unexpected failure."' ERR [05:07] i prefer || fail "message" [05:07] kirkland, so what branch ? [05:07] smoser: you can still use those and have an ERR trap as your fallback for all the cases your "do it by hand" forgot about. [05:07] smoser: lp:~kirkland/+junk/cloud-utils [05:07] ok. where is your branch ? [05:07] lp:~kirkland/+junk/cloud-utils [05:08] i'll merge. [05:08] smoser: i fixed the versions, and tagged the latest release [05:08] smoser: as soon as you can push that to the upstream, i'll upload the changes file i've signed [05:08] wait. [05:09] i just pulled that. latest revision is '7' [05:09] message: [05:09] releasing version 0.3ubuntu1 [05:11] huh? === foxbuntu` is now known as foxbuntu [05:11] smoser: pull again [05:11] smoser: what's head -n1 debian/changelog ? [05:13] [05:13] 11. releasing version 0.5-0ubuntu1 [05:14] kirkland, your tree looks sane to me. [05:15] smoser: cool [05:15] smoser: let me know when you've pushed [05:15] and mine just successfully merged from yours [05:17] ok. lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/cloud-utils/ should have revision 11, which has your tree, and mine merged. [05:17] that should be mergable into lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils [05:17] so we're happy. [05:18] smoser: okay, then i'm uploading [05:18] smoser: done [05:18] so when you upload, you first push to lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils, right? [05:19] i think you're supposed to push there, then upload, then when the crawler comes through to sync them, it will have already done it and you'll have the intermediate history. [05:19] at least thats how i thought it was supposed to work. [05:20] good night, kirkland thanks. [05:20] smoser: well, they're all out of sync right now :-/ [05:20] well not now. [05:20] smoser: so pushing there isn't quite working [05:20] they're all good. [05:20] why not? [05:20] i just pulled from there, and i can merge ours into that. [05:20] kirkland@x200:/tmp/foo3/cloud-utils$ bzr push lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils [05:20] Warning: Permanently added 'bazaar.launchpad.net,91.189.90.11' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. [05:20] bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. See "bzr help diverged-branches" for more information. [05:21] oh hell. [05:21] i hate this [05:21] smoser: hang on [05:21] smoser: okay, we're good [05:21] bzr branch lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils cloud-utils.lucid [05:22] bzr merge lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/cloud-utils [05:22] smoser: yeah, sorry, we're good [05:22] good. [05:22] good night. [05:22] kirkland@x200:/tmp/foo3/cloud-utils$ bzr push lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-utils [05:22] Pushed up to revision 12. [05:22] funny [05:22] smoser: gnight [05:22] i thoguht your x200 was bug in bzr [05:22] smoser: you just had to curse bzr enough [05:22] looks like hex [05:22] smoser: and then it works out [05:22] oh i curse it. [05:22] smoser: heh [05:23] smoser: fyi ... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/524226 [05:23] Launchpad bug 524226 in openssh "ssh-import-id - retrieve a key from a public keyserver and add to the authorized_keys file" [Wishlist,New] [05:23] smoser: i renamed it to ssh-import-id [05:23] smoser: as it's kind of the opposite of ssh-copy-id === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:23] yeah. thats true. [05:23] just make sure you take my improved version. :) [05:24] smoser: you can post it to that bug if you like ;-) [05:24] smoser: and add your name to the authors [05:24] you actually have to properly urlencode the user names [05:24] smoser: true [05:24] smoser: let's not make it *too* complicate though, or it won't make FFe [05:24] smoser: or be considered a papercut [05:25] smoser: i'm hoping ttx might accept it as a papercut [05:25] * kirkland -> bed [05:25] but seriosly, it sould do that. i have a perl one liner somewher ethat urlencodes. [05:26] Random annoying thing: OpenSSH's ssh-copy-id doesn't work with dropbear. [05:31] twb, hm.. do you know why? [05:31] other than ssh-copy-id is a good example of a bad shell script ;) [05:31] Because ~/.ssh/authorized_keys becomes a single /etc/dropbear/authorized_keys [05:31] which does neither set -e or catches errors [05:32] ssh-copy-id's code is INSANE, I assume because it's trying to be really portable [05:32] well that seems fixable if HOME=/etc/dropbear/ [05:32] root's home is rarely /etc/dropbear [05:32] right. [05:32] (Dropbear is ssh for embedded systems, in case you didn't know.) [05:33] yeah. i've used it. [05:33] its is very handy. [05:36] twb, you could add a nother user with id 0 named 'dropbear' with HOME=/etc/dropbear. the ssh-copy-id dropbear@host [05:36] but that likely has mmajor issues [05:36] security wise [05:42] could you not 'ln -s .ssh /etc/dropbear' on the router ? [05:42] but yeah, a hack [05:42] (from root's home dir that is) [05:44] err.. did I even get that ln the right way around? NEED COFFEE. :/ [05:45] twb: err from root's homedir on the router 'ln -s /etc/dropbear .ssh' even. [06:28] huzzah! progress on getting my libvirt hosts to lucid leads to new info for bug #495394. [06:28] Launchpad bug 495394 in libvirt "autostart almost always fails on boot time host" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495394 [06:35] in karmic server, anyway to shrink font size? I tried vga=791, but I lose all video [06:35] I expect to ssh in mostly so no biggee [06:36] how can I tell what depends on x11-common? [06:37] apt-cache rdepends [06:38] lifeless, thanks [06:39] ah, reverse depends [06:39] to shut off a service, the only way is to remove (bind9) out of /etc/init.d ?? [06:42] check /etc/default/ and see if there is a config in there. many have options for whether to start or not === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [06:46] New bug: #524243 in python-boto (main) "Python-boto crashes with Duplicity and Amazon S3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524243 [06:48] cef, your hint about 70-persistent-net was key -- I got eth0 up and going -- cheers [06:49] ChmEarl: no probs [07:02] to remove bind9 startup: sudo update-rc.d -f bind9 remove [07:20] hi folks, new to the whole ubuntu server thing, quick question to get me started, do i need to do anything special, or does the default install of OpenSSH from the CD let me ssh into the box? [07:30] ttx, ping [07:31] smoser: opng [07:31] hey. [07:31] i just opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/524258 [07:31] Launchpad bug 524258 in cloud-init "update check code is not enabled" [High,Fix committed] [07:31] can you approve it for lucid and deny it for karmic ? [07:31] on it [07:31] i accidently clicked karmic [07:32] done [07:48] kirkland: you are now a member of ubuntu-on-ec2 [07:49] wtf? [07:49] nijaba: Oh, you just did that? [07:49] soren: yes, I did [07:49] We must have clicked "Add member" within seconds of each other :) [07:49] hehe [07:50] I had just checked the list of members, gone "Nope, noone's done it yet", went to add him, and it said he was already a member.. Man, if I could have seen the look on my face.. [07:50] soren: would have loved to see it too ;) [07:57] soren: anoter lost youtube moment [07:57] i've gotten lp:ubuntu/lucid/cloud-init completely foobared [07:58] smoser: james westby may be your friend [07:58] somehow its missing a upstream-0.5.5 tag [07:58] smoser: but I guess that comes with the territory when working too late :) [07:59] whats most impressive is i can't even write there. [08:01] smoser: Nope, very few people can write to the lp:ubuntu/* branches. [08:01] i dont think its very few, i was under the impression all coredev could [08:02] Nope. [08:02] These dudes: [08:02] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/+members [08:02] aka rockstar-team [08:03] Pretty much :) [08:03] i really thought the goal was for people to push to those branches and start builds from there. [08:03] It is. We're not there yet. [08:04] Hmm.. Yeah, I wonder why the new upstream version didn't get imported. [08:06] Oh, I know. [08:06] It was uploaded as a native package. [08:06] As can be seen here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/cloud-init/0.5.5-0ubuntu1 [08:06] Well, here specifically: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39341990/cloud-init_0.5.5-0ubuntu1_source.changes [08:07] smoser: Do you understand what happened there? [08:07] soren: what do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/376388/comments/12 ? [08:07] Launchpad bug 376388 in bzr "~/.bazaar created owned by root (when run under sudo)" [Medium,In progress] [08:08] i saw that that builddeb file go tput there. [08:08] and it is attributed to me. must have been an errant bzr add. [08:09] but i can't seem to work my way out of the problem [08:09] smoser: I know how to fix it from a debian source package perspective, but I don't know how that will look in the resulting bzr branch. [08:09] "very confusing" is my guess. [08:30] ok. soren or ttx, if you had some cycles to spare, please review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/524258 [08:30] Launchpad bug 524258 in cloud-init "update check code is not enabled" [High,Fix committed] [08:30] the linked branch there is in a sane state, minus the fact that by its count 0.5.5 never occurred. [08:36] ttx, soren , i'm heading to bed. please do take a look at that if you can. [08:37] smoser: ok [08:41] soren: how does the puppet/etckeeper integration work ? Is puppet recommending etckeeper ? Or do they just happen to play nice if installed together ? [08:42] i.e. how critical is etckeeper MIR in that process ? [08:43] soren: I have my answer, forget it :) [08:43] "Silently bail out if etckeeper is not available." [08:51] * soren takes a break [09:01] morning folks [09:18] hi [09:49] stgraber: Hola [09:49] stgraber: Would you have some time to discuss lxc? [09:49] stgraber: I wonder about a couple of integration stuff, notably mounting of cgroups [09:50] stgraber: Perhaps we could simply mount this on /dev/cgroup for everybody? [09:50] The mountpoint was apparently suggest to lenghty discussions [09:50] *subject [09:51] stgraber: Also, I'd like to test lxc on a karmic system; I've seen that the linux SRU is in progress, is a lxc backport needed as well? Anything else? [09:51] I didn't look into the caps handling which allow random users to manipulate containers, it's not clear to me whether that's a good idea or not [10:52] New bug: #524341 in amavisd-new (main) "[FFE] Add amavisd-new-postfix package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524341 [11:03] hi somebody know any good webmail server? [11:04] roundcube === Jeeves__ is now known as Jeeves_ [11:04] or roundcube [11:04] it's an application, not a server [11:04] :) [11:04] so, is the best? [11:04] Indeed [11:04] Roxyhart0: Well, yes. I think so [11:05] yes i am looking for a option to squirmail [11:06] mmm...look really nice :) [11:09] doesn't have all the features of squirrelmail, but looks great [11:09] :) [11:18] ivoks: it's easier to deploy than squirremail or horde [11:18] * acalvo really likes roundcube [11:19] * soren enjoys roundcube as well [11:19] I offer horde to my users as well, though. Most people prefer it, since they use this webmail interface as the only interface to their e-mail account, and horde is somewhat more full-featured than roundcube. [11:19] ...but roundcube is /really/ nice for most uses. [11:20] right [11:20] horde is more like a collaborational suite [11:20] btw, some having access attacks from Italy? [11:26] s/some/someone [11:45] can live backups of vm's be made with kvm? [12:16] Folks, just a note that I've changed the locking primitive in qemu-kvm in some code pathes to use GCC's locking primitives, please tell me if you see any regression [12:18] So I've set up ubuntu server as a host OS and now I'm preparing to install KVM, yet the kernel indicates that my proc does not support virtualization... is there some flag i should be setting? [12:18] the proc is a c2d [12:27] hi everyone, i have a fresh installation of bind9 on my ubuntu box.. i configured named.conf.options with listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; but netstat -nlp shows named listening on tcp 127.0.0.1:53 (as configured) and udp 0.0.0.0:53 .. how can i force it to listen to 127.0.0.1:53 on UDP also?! [12:35] hi, my squirrelmail stop to work and i think is because id change by error permisions at the folders/files..somebody can tell me which permisions should it have ? [12:56] New bug: #510171 in samba (main) "connection from windows clients only works using IP, not using hostname" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510171 [13:07] morning [13:12] gday [13:14] hi ivoks [13:26] hi [13:27] i've just hosted some IBM server on a local service provider, and the websites on it run's very well, but on SSH i can't make a wget or an apt-get somthing or even a ping on any ip on the web !! i can connect to the machine over SSH, and i can access websites on it, but that's all :p any idea about that ? [13:28] can you ping your gateway? [13:28] there's one cool thing called mtr [13:28]