[00:00] <Lord-Readman> one second
[00:00] <Lord-Readman> i might not be correct
[00:00] <beeftube> ok thanks :)
[00:00] <Lord-Readman> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[00:00] <Lord-Readman> As a Member you will get an email address @ubuntu.com and the right to carry Ubuntu business cards too
[00:01] <Lord-Readman> but I dont know if that answers your question on just using the ubuntu logo for your own business
[00:01] <deepocean> DasEi My current C drive is 30gb. Can I leave my D drive untouched and install Ubuntu on C. Otherwise I have to copy my entire D drive to external disk and that will quiet some time.
[00:01] <Lord-Readman> sorry I cant be of any more help
[00:02] <epitaph> Greetings. I have quite an interesting problem. A laptop that has ubuntu installed on it decided to short something and has made the touchpad/keyboard totally unusable. It also has made the USB ports unusable. The computer boots up without issue to the login screen and I can get it on my home network. The problem is I need to get a few files off of it, but there is no remote/SSH configured that I know of.
[00:02] <deepocean> Sensiva My current C drive is 30gb. Can I leave my D drive untouched and install Ubuntu on C. Otherwise I have to copy my entire D drive to external disk and that will quiet some time.
[00:03] <Sensiva> deepocean Are you dual booting with Windows?
[00:03] <Big_D_271> anyone have trouble with Marvell 88E8053 Ethernet on Karmic update?
[00:04] <AiR_> witam :)
[00:04] <deepocean> Sensiva I will leave windows and access it through VmWare Virtual Box.
[00:04] <Sensiva> o.O
[00:04] <GodfatherofEire> Say, is there any program in the repos for defragging a drive? (Trying to do an offline defrag, so it'll run a bit faster)
[00:04] <Sensiva> deepocean you can't access your current Windows installtion thru VMs software
[00:05] <epitaph> there's not really much of a point of defragmenting an EXT/journaled file systej
[00:05] <Slart> GodfatherofEire: nothing simple and easy, afaik
[00:05] <GodfatherofEire> Slart, I dont need easy or simple
[00:05] <DasEi> deepocean: sry, was away a second, yes can, safest bet is to remove d when installing to c, all c-data will be lost, but didn't you say vbox ?
[00:05] <GodfatherofEire> Just something that'll do the job, and fast
[00:05] <Big_D_271> anyone have trouble with Marvell 88E8053 Ethernet on Karmic update?
[00:05] <Slart> GodfatherofEire: I once created a script that went through the larger files on the drive and took the most fragmented ones and moved them to another drive and then back.. letting that run for a while helped somewhat..
[00:06] <deepocean> DasEi Sensiva My idea is to install Ubuntu to my current C disk and leave D drive untouched.
[00:06] <GodfatherofEire> Slart, well, I dont have another drive, and that'd probably just be slower than an on-line defrag
[00:06] <richRemer> I have an app that has an icon in the Gnome menu and in the dock, but when I alt+Tab, there is no icon.  I am using compiz for the windowing.  How can I set the icon?
[00:06] <Slart> GodfatherofEire: it was the only solution I found..
[00:06] <Sensiva> deepocean okay, but this will lead to losing your current Windows installation.
[00:07] <GodfatherofEire> Slart, alright
[00:07] <deepocean> Sensiva Yes that is no problem.
[00:07] <Sensiva> deepocean If I were you, I won't do it
[00:07] <DasEi> deepocean: that should work, just make sure c is first drive (bios) as the installer used to install grub to first hd
[00:07] <deepocean> Sensiva back data up first?
[00:08] <kopyka> :D
[00:08] <Sensiva> deepocean but the short answer to your question is yes you can install on C and leave D untouched
[00:08] <abjerk> Question, is Samba installed by default on Ubuntu 9.10?  I would like to access files from other computers on my network, however, they are Windows machines in their own workgroup.
[00:08] <PingFloyd> if you copy all the files over to another filesystem and back, it will defrag it.
[00:08] <deepocean> Ok I will back all data up first.
[00:09] <deepocean> Beter be safe than sorry
[00:09] <Sensiva> deepocean not only a data backup, since you are using Ubuntu for the first time, you should have an existing OS installed you are familiar with in case of emergency
[00:09] <PingFloyd> there is also tools to defrag ext2
[00:09] <Big_D_271> I need help connecting... I upgraded from jaunty, and now my network will not connect... please help
[00:09] <PingFloyd> but you generally don't need to defrag ext2/3/4 filesystems
[00:09] <Slart> GodfatherofEire: the best solution might be to just not fill the drive up fully.. if you leave 10-20% free fragmentation shouldn't be a problem.. unless you do something extreme to your machine
[00:10] <epitaph> Greetings. I have quite an interesting problem. A laptop that has ubuntu installed on it decided to short something and has made the touchpad/keyboard totally unusable. It also has made the USB ports unusable. The computer boots up without issue to the login screen and I can get it on my home network. The problem is I need to get a few files off of it, but there is no remote/SSH configured that I know of.
[00:11] <will> can anyone help me with...I have a work pc which i installed ubuntu 9.1 I would like to set it up so I can sign in on my network account. the server is a pc. who do I set up the users accounts?
[00:11] <deepocean> Sensiva normally I would agree. However this I need to reinstall windows anyway because it is getting very slow again.
[00:11] <epitaph> (trying one more time)
[00:11] <Sensiva> deepocean Back up, then you are good to go
[00:12] <DasEi> epitaph: easy, if you got network and another pc running in your subnet
[00:12] <epitaph> DasEi: do explain
[00:13] <epitaph> (i have both of those)
[00:14] <DasEi> epitaph: bootup lappi, sudo apt-get install ssh*, pull down any existing firewall, access from other pc with ssh and ipadress of lappi (ifconfig on lappi tells you), to configure ssh
[00:15] <epitaph> right. well I would just do it from the laptop if I could use a keyboard on it
[00:15] <epitaph> it won't recognize USB devices, and the keyboard/touchpad on the device do not work
[00:15] <epitaph> so unfortunately i'm up a creek
[00:15] <epitaph> thanks
[00:15] <epitaph> for your suggestion
[00:16] <epitaph> I think the only way is to physically remove the hard disk and find something else to put it in
[00:16] <DasEi> epitaph: hm, boot a live cd, check if usb works (thumbdrive) ?
[00:16] <epitaph> can't boot the live CD because you have to press a key
[00:16] <epitaph> (yeah, it's madness)
[00:17] <DasEi> epitaph: nah, can use knoppix
[00:17] <epitaph> that's not exactly going to magically fix the hardware and make it work
[00:17] <epitaph> plus, i meant that you have to press a key to tell the laptop to boot off the CD
[00:18] <DasEi> epitaph: is what I wonder, sure is physically broken ? checked bios for disabled usb ?
[00:18] <epitaph> you can't get into the bios because you can't press any keys
[00:18] <DasEi> epitaph: no, the lives wait a time, then continue booting
[00:19] <DasEi> epitaph: and no jacks for another console ? my lappy has, mouse, too
[00:19] <epitaph> even if you get a live environment to bootup without input, you still can't interact with it
[00:19] <epitaph> not on this one unfortunately
[00:19] <epitaph> there's network/power/modem/audio/usb/vga
[00:19] <Dannyboy> \o
[00:19] <anomoly> hello all, looking for some help w/ installing a dual boot but the live cd not recognizing my hard drive
[00:19] <DasEi> epitaph: looks like you will by an usb-enclosure then and put hd in there
[00:20] <Ganang> is there any compatibility problem to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? i saw in some forums some people concerning about it..is that true?
[00:20] <epitaph> yeah, that's what i was afraid of
[00:20] <epitaph> moral of the story: always install ssh/
[00:20] <DasEi> epitaph: or open the other box, if ide/sata isn't the prob then
[00:20] <epitaph> other box?
[00:20] <Slart> Ganang: there's a new version of grub in 9.10.. apart from that I think it should be fine.. backups are good though, as always
[00:20] <kim> I have a quick question. I'm trying to download a 64bit version of Ubuntu, but it only says 32 bit on the download screen? Am I missing something?
[00:20] <Wispring> what if you connected another usp keyboard to your broken laptop?
[00:21] <DasEi> epitaph: you said you have a working pc around, can try to boot hd there and install ssh
[00:21] <epitaph> Wispring: the entire USB host controller seems to be gone
[00:21] <richRemer> How do I find out where an app is getting it's icon from?
[00:21] <epitaph> well i have lots of PC'
[00:21] <Slart> kim: did you select the 64bit version?
[00:21] <Wispring> ok..just a thought heh
[00:21] <preston_> I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone help?
[00:21] <epitaph> so that's really what will have to happen
[00:21] <Ganang> Slart: thanks, i am not sure if upgrading will solve my problem, my major concern is to get my second monitor working with the open source video card from ATI , anyway thanks...
[00:21] <kim> Slart: I'm at the download page, it has a green button that says 32bit. I dont see how to change it
[00:22] <Slart> Ganang: oh.. don't know how well ati cards work.. don't have one of those myself
[00:22] <epitaph> DasEi: won't the connection for the laptop HDD differ?
[00:22] <epitaph> it's most likely IDE
[00:22] <epitaph> pata
[00:22] <Slart> kim: click the "alternative download options..."
[00:22] <kim> ah, thx
[00:23] <Slart> kim: it should show you radio buttons for choosing 9.10 or 8.04, and 32bit or 64bit
[00:23] <DasEi> epitaph: it'll prbly be 40 con 2,5 lappi hd, can be attached to standard ide
[00:23] <kim> it doesn't by default, so I missed it. Thanks for pointing that out
[00:23] <epitaph> DasEi: alright, thanks for the help
[00:23] <theface> !seen alder
[00:23] <KindOne> Sorry theface. I haven't seen alder around.
[00:24] <preston_> I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help?
[00:24] <doolph> hey
[00:24] <doolph> anyone know how to change the DNS domain name?
[00:25] <fretster> howdy guys, anyone know a really slick way to generate pdf's from a scanner with acrobat pro level quality?
[00:25] <doolph> when I put hostname -d it gives me "server.server"
[00:25] <preston_> fretster: download a pdf printer
[00:25] <Slart> fretster: nope.. there's a distinct lack of good scanning software for linux.. I use a vm to run some windows software when I need to do fancy stuff
[00:26] <fretster> preston_: to create them from a scan?
[00:26] <metropolis_pt2> fretster: the new ubuntu 10.04 will have "simple-scan" preinstalled, maybe theres already a backport to karmic
[00:26] <fretster> is simple-scan any good?
[00:26] <preston_> fretster: yes, you have to have good scanning software though. If you can guarantee some good software on that end then all you need it a pdf printer
[00:27] <fretster> anythoughts on good scan software?
[00:27] <metropolis_pt2> fretster: here's a backport for karmic: https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/simple-scan?field.series_filter=karmic
[00:27] <cnvl> how can i fix my tv-out display so that the picture of the tv takes up the whole screen? right now it extends past the edges of the screen
[00:28] <fretster> brb
[00:28] <preston_> cnvl: navigate to your screen settings and change the resolution
[00:28] <preston_> I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help?
[00:28] <cnvl> i've tried changing between 800x600 and 1024x768, neither option helped
[00:28] <PeskyJ> nice one! I just managed to transfer my ~/.Private from my old machine and get all my setup sorted in one fell swoop :)
[00:29] <cnvl> it's an oldish CRT TV, I'm using s-video -> y/c to display to it
[00:29] <cnvl> it's PAL-B (or G, can't find the manual)
[00:29] <PeskyJ> preston_: did you install flash player using ubuntu software centre or a download from the adobe site?
[00:29] <preston_> cnvl: are those your only two resolution options?
[00:29] <aaron11> hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's
[00:30] <preston_> peskyJ: I tried both, none of them worked
[00:30] <cnvl> preston_: no, but the lower resolution options work just as poorly
[00:30] <cnvl> and i'd rather have the tv working at least in 800x600
[00:30] <surfer> Hey all
[00:30] <PeskyJ> preston_: when you used the software centre, did you install the proprietary adobe installer? that one always seems to work for me on different computers
[00:31] <theacolyte> I'm running into an issue with chroot, one that I'm sure you guys have seen before, Essentially, this guy had the same problem http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122640962523219&w=2
[00:31] <Dannyboy> \o
[00:31] <theacolyte> The issue is, with the "fix" suggested: http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122649589117496&w=2
[00:31] <Dannyboy> \o
[00:31] <theacolyte> It still allows a user to traverse a directory down and read a list of the users in the directory, which is contrary to what chroot is for
[00:31] <preston_> PeskyJ_:yes I did, it still didn't work
[00:32] <morph_> hey guys
[00:32] <morph_> i need a little help
[00:33] <preston_> PeskyJ: I have also tried different browsers, and nothing changed
[00:33] <cnvl> i had tried playing with the TVOverScan setting before I realized that the default 0.0 was the value I wanted
[00:35] <PeskyJ> drat, Evolution doesn't seem to think it's already set up even though I copied the .evolution directory
[00:35] <m3F> hi!
[00:35] <m3F>  i have a single question about a problem i am having these days with my iPod shuffle. Since i have installed Exaile 0.3.0.2 in Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i have problems to handle my iPod, Even if i try to do it whether with Rhythmbox or Banshee. I am thinking about a new library that Exaile 0.3 has installed that is making the problem. Could it be?
[00:36] <m3F>  i need a solution since i use Ubuntu to handle my iPod and now i have to use my PC at my office with Windows to do so.
[00:36] <m3F>  I also have to say that i restored my iPod using iTunes and there my iPod works fine, but when i come back to my Ubuntu my iPod fails.
[00:37] <preston_> I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help?
[00:37] <m3F> mybe something wrong with libgpod?
[00:40] <aaron11> hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's file. Im using carwhisperer
[00:40] <aaron11> hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's file. Im using carwhisperer
[00:41] <arttra> he
[00:43] <acee12345> how can you spoof ctcp version on pidgin. id rather not be behavior analyzed
[00:44] <PeskyJ> arttra: try: sudo chown <myuser> file
[00:45] <neezer> hi, I have a file that is a newer version than the one I need. I tried getting my ipod touch working and I installed a repository for some files....It has to do with my gvfs file. I cannot select an ssh file transfer in nautilus anymore. I need to revert to the old file. When select my current file for removal in synaptic it wants to remove all kinds of other packages too. The list of things to be removed are on the last page here: http://ubuntuforums.org/sh
[00:45] <neezer> owthread.php?t=1407610&page=4
[00:46] <morph_> can someone help me
[00:46] <neezer> am I asking for trouble if I go about removing this then trying to install the older version of the file?
[00:46] <morph_> im trying to start up to programs on start up
[00:46] <morph_> but i cant seem to get them to work
[00:46] <morph_> 1 is deluge the other is gmail notify
[00:46] <PeskyJ> how can I make evolution think it's my old evolution? I've copied .evolution and when I run it it's still going through the set-up process?
[00:46] <theacolyte> I'm running into an issue with chroot, one that I'm sure you guys have seen before, Essentially, this guy had the same problem http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122640962523219&w=2
[00:46] <Dannyboy> \o
[00:46] <morph_> to run them in terminal the command is deluge
[00:46] <theacolyte> The issue is, with the "fix" suggested: http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122649589117496&w=2
[00:46] <Dannyboy> \o
[00:47] <marcules> Oh god damn it
[00:47] <theacolyte> It still allows a user to traverse a directory down and read a list of the users in the directory, which is contrary to what chroot is for
[00:47] <morph_> and gmail-notifier
[00:47] <Pici> Dannyboy: Please stop that.
[00:47] <morph_> i put that in there
[00:47] <morph_> and its not working
[00:47] <morph_> so can anyone help
[00:47] <Dannyboy> yessir
[00:47] <marcules> I hate that domain
[00:47] <doolph> hello
[00:47] <morph_> to me?
[00:48] <Hyruo> como instalar um arquivo através do código fonte?
[00:48] <doolph> if I am installing an openldap server, when it asks me for hostname what should i put? a single word or mydomain.com
[00:48] <Drew---> how do you stop xchat from opening freenode/#ubuntu
[00:49] <mercy> hello, does anyone have any tips for switching from Ubuntu 9.10 to Backtrack 4?
[00:49] <conn> is there a command to see all mounted drives?
[00:50] <conn> I am a complete linux noob :(
[00:50] <PsychoMari0> conn: mount
[00:50] <ticko> conn fdisk -ls
[00:50] <mercy> try googling it
[00:50] <aaron11> !ot|mercy
[00:50] <neezer> conn: df should do the trick
[00:51] <conn> ok weird, I can get into the cdrom drive via shell
[00:51] <conn> but not in the gui
[00:51] <aaron11> Does anyone know a program that can play a .raw file
[00:51] <aaron11> Does anyone know a program that can play a .raw file
[00:51] <morph_> HELLO I NEED LIKE 5 MINUTES OF HELP PLEASE
[00:52] <Nikyo> Hello, is there a command that I can type into terminal, that will bring up the Compiz Configuration Manager?
[00:53] <jimi_> Anyone know in pidgin, how can you get t to hide messages completely? I have hide message always , but it shows it in a faded dialog still
[00:53] <Guest23585> open /path
[00:54] <bastid_raZor> jimi_: ccsm
[00:54] <Stanto> Could someone please direct me, or tell me, what linux kernel version Ubuntu 8.08 uses, and then which 9.10 uses please?
[00:54] <neezer> where is sources.list?
[00:55] <jimi_> bastid_raZor, what option would that be?
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> jimi_: oh.. wrong person Nikyo type ccsm
[00:55] <jimi_> oh
[00:55] <jimi_> heh
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> neezer: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:55] <Rtk> 9.10 uses 2.6.31
[00:56] <neezer> thanks bastid_raZor
[00:56] <Stanto> Thanks Rtk, any thoughts on 8.08?
[00:56] <mneptok> Stanto: there is no such thing
[00:56] <timClicks> how is the linux support for USB wifi dongles?
[00:57] <Rtk> 2.6.24
[00:57] <Stanto> Thanks.
[00:57] <Rtk> @tim, 3 dongle worked great for me.
[00:58] <neezer> anyone know about reverting to an older package from one that is installed now?
[00:59] <Stanto> mneptok: What makes you say that?
[00:59] <doolph> if I am installing an openldap server, when it asks me for hostname what should i put? a single word or mydomain.com
[00:59] <Rtk> Remove the package via Synaptic, then install the old one.
[01:00] <Rtk> doolph, nameserver I believe.
[01:00] <Rtk> dns.*****
[01:00] <neezer> Rtk, I'm worried about dependencies. the package I want to remove has a LOT of dependencies that are also going to be removed.
[01:00] <Rtk> Such as?
[01:00] <johny> hey guys
[01:00] <trism> Stanto: ubuntu releases are named after the month they come out which is generally April and October, so it is usually .04 or .10 except for 6.06, which was delayed
[01:00] <JoeSomebody> i have a ununtu box, win 7 and an xp. one of my ntfs drives went wacky, chkdsk would not fix it, win explorer would not read it, and yet i copied all the data off with a karmic live cd. i knew this was possible, (thank you linux!) but why exactly is it that win cant read its own stuff as good as linux? be nice to understand that (linux newbie)
[01:01] <mneptok> Stanto: 8.08? there was no Ubuntu 8.08.
[01:01] <Stanto> trism, mneptok is there a version list?
[01:02] <Rtk> It's every 6 months they release, hence why it's always .04 or .10
[01:02] <trism> Stanto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:02] <Stanto> Rtk, trism, mneptok. Thank you very much.
[01:03] <neezer> Rtk, all kinds of gnome things...gnoem-panel....gvfs, nautilus, rhythmbox, ubuntu-desktop....I have a large list
[01:03] <Dread348> what is the default UID and GID in Ubuntu?
[01:03] <Rtk> Do not remove ubuntu desktop, seriously.
[01:04] <JoeSomebody> why can linux read "broken" ntfs?
[01:04] <neezer> Rtk, I know....that would be really bad, and I'd probably have to reinstall from command line. I know how to do that....I can open synaptic from the command line. The problem is that when I reinstall it will it work properly?
[01:04] <baconmayo> Any tips for fixing inverted color on a UVC webcam?  Google search has been pretty fruitless so far.
[01:04] <baconmayo> The same also happens with my hauppage card, actually
[01:05] <Rtk> I'm not sure. What if you didn't mark for removal instead of complete removal?
[01:05] <user01> is there a command other than cat that will print contents of a file to the screen without pause?
[01:05] <carbm1> is there a way to modify ssh forwards after you've already made your connection? On Windows in putty you can just go change your settings but in Linux with it being a command line I didn' know if it was possible.
[01:05] <neezer> Rtk, I get the same thing if I mark for complete removal.
[01:06] <macman__> hey all having issues opening a .jar file .. any ideas on how to .. i already install sun java 6
[01:06] <Rtk> What program is it?
[01:06] <chai> carbm1, what do you want to modify?
[01:07] <neezer> carbm1: you can modify the computer you are sshing into, but then when you restart the ssh server in order to make the changes take effect you will get booted. You can then change the settings on putty and log back in.
[01:07] <carbm1> chai: for example -L 2222:192.168.2.1:22 when actually I needed -L 2222:192.168.1.1:22 ... as an example
[01:07] <teage> Ok i made a livecd.iso, but its not bootable. how do i make it bootable? In windows it was just a matter of adding a the boot file from drive c. How do you do this in linux?
[01:07] <carbm1> On Putty I don't have to log back in after I change an SSH forward. I just make the change and its automatic.
[01:08] <Rtk> teage: any errors?
[01:08] <carbm1> On Linux I have to logout, then ssh back in with the changed -L command. I was just wondering if it was possible without having to logout and log back in.
[01:08] <teage> Rtk, no errors, just says "no bootable media found"
[01:08] <Rtk> Did you burn the contents of the .iso or the .iso file?
[01:09] <teage> Rtk, i checked the files compaired to a iso all ready made and there identical
[01:09] <chai> carbm1, don't think so
[01:09] <teage> Rtk, no i did not burn it yet. just tested with vb
[01:09] <Rtk> I'm confused, what distro and what burner?
[01:09] <carbm1> Thats what I thought.  Thought I would ask since I just had a need for it.
[01:10] <teage> Rtk, ubuntu 9.10 and i made the iso file using k3b
[01:10] <Rtk> Was it a unused disk? Btw, Brasero is much better.
[01:11] <nyqvist> hi people. i got gigabyte 4850hd videocard..it seems like i can't watch hd movies, it's laggy and delayed like hell..Even the .dvdrip movies are displayed shitty when i full screen them.. What to do!? Any codecs i need to install or what?
[01:12] <Belserusk>  /ignore frigg 3
[01:12] <teage> Rtk. really? i will try brasero. btw, interesting enough i thought maybe i did something wrong in making the livecd, so just as a test i extracted an already made iso to a file and remade the iso and still, same problem
[01:12] <pepee> nyqvist, install the driver for your graphics card
[01:12] <Rtk> I think you're doing it the difficult way, all you need to do is download the .iso and burn. I don't know what you did.
[01:13] <Rtk> Also, extracting an .iso?
[01:13] <ksbalaji> which app can I use to convert my PDF files to RTF and vice versa?
[01:13] <chai> teage you made the iso file? like a custom livecd?
[01:14] <Rtk> ksbalaji: can you not just change the file extension?
[01:14] <pepee> nyqvist, you can try installing the ati propietary driver, or the open source
[01:14] <teage> Rtk, i know, i made a customized version, really the only thing different is the casper files
[01:14] <teage> chai, yes
[01:14] <nyqvist> pepee, i installed the ati propietary driver, i'm on it now.. how do i install the open source and where do i find it?
[01:15] <ksbalaji> Rtk, That does not work. I cannot edit such changed files in my OO. moreover, I have a old ver of oo without any pdf import ext.
[01:15] <pepee> nyqvist, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[01:15] <Rtk> @teage. Well, I don't think I can help, sorry.  I've never done what you're trying to do.
[01:16] <Rtk> Did you ask the ubuntu forums?
[01:16] <nyqvist> pepee, should i uninstall the propietary driver 1st?
[01:16] <chai> ksbalaji, check this out http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935095
[01:17] <pepee> nyqvist, hmm good question...
[01:17] <Clone29> selamat pagi...
[01:17] <teage> Rtk, thats ok, i have done this with windows using imageburn. i will see if i can run imageburn under wine and maybe problem solved
[01:17] <Clone29> yang indonesia mohon sapa saya..
[01:17] <Clone29> hehehehehe
[01:17] <chai> nyqvist, for nvidia open source drivers, they DO require that you uninstall proprietary
[01:17] <pepee> thanks chai
[01:17] <chai> nyqvist, dunno if it applies, but i'd do it just in case
[01:17] <ksbalaji> chai, thanks.
[01:18] <chai> np
[01:18] <nyqvist> chai, the question is what should i do 1st.. i don't want to unistall the proprietary driver, it will ask me for reboot and then i won't get my screen to show up..
[01:18] <Rtk> I forget the irc command to direct a comment at a user, anyone?
[01:18] <B|aSS> ./query nickname
[01:18] <chai> nyqvist, can you boot in recovery mode, if the driver is uninstalled?
[01:19] <B|aSS> ./msg nickname
[01:19] <Rtk> ./query B|aSS test
[01:19] <nyqvist> chai, i'm not sure.
[01:19] <Whitor> HI. I'm, on 9.04 and I have a question. I'm on a laptop, and when I connect an external display, the panel at the top of my laptop display moves to the external display. How can I keep the panel on my laptop display ?
[01:19] <B|aSS> without the .
[01:19] <B|aSS> :P
[01:19] <Rtk> Gotcha, thanks.
[01:19] <B|aSS> :)
[01:20] <chai> nyqvist, that might work, all you really need is a console to install the open source driver, you could probably do recovery mode then choose netroot
[01:20] <Rtk> Am I the only user here not using Ubuntu? Just realized this is Ubuntu irc.
[01:20] <chai> Rtk, lol. probably. what are you using?
[01:20] <Rtk> Arch.
[01:20] <pingya> hi. i have flash installed but none of my browsers (firefox and chrome) seem to be able to use.
[01:21] <Rtk> pingya, how did you install flash?
[01:21] <pingya> does anyone have any advice for how to get flash to work?
[01:22] <chai> pingya, if you've ever installed flashplugin-nonfree, remove it
[01:22] <pingya> rtk, yes i have flash installed... it was working but i think there was an update for it a little while ago and now it isnt
[01:22] <pingya> ok
[01:22] <pingya> i think it is installed
[01:22] <Rtk> Go straight to Adobe and download the .deb
[01:22] <pingya> i will remove it
[01:22] <EWR> hi guys. i just installed 9.10 Karmic and if i set my appearance to Normal or better, I can no longer see my desktop background
[01:22] <nyqvist> chai, look what it have done >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/379450/
[01:22] <pingya> Rtk, i am running 64bit so the deb wont install
[01:23] <Rtk> .rpm is available too.
[01:24] <josh__> hello all
[01:24] <EWR> guys why can't i see my desktop background?
[01:24] <chai> nyqvist, wow it removed a lot of packages.. is it working now?
[01:24] <B|aSS> EWR
[01:24] <B|aSS> using KDE?
[01:24] <m3F> ok, again:
[01:25] <m3F> i have a problem with my iPod in Jaunty
[01:25] <EWR> B|aSS nope GNOME i JUST installed 9.1
[01:25] <EWR> B|aSS like..15 minutes ago
[01:25] <B|aSS> mmm
[01:25] <EWR> B|aSS it booted up with a black background
[01:25] <josh__> quick question..i am new to netbook remix have just downloaded a keylogger called LKL and now can not find it anywhere
[01:25] <EWR> i had touched nothing
[01:25] <B|aSS> never had problem with gnome
[01:25] <B|aSS> got the latest update?
[01:25] <chai> m3F whats the problem?
[01:26] <nyqvist> chai, same sh** :(((
[01:26] <pingya> how do i install flash when using the 64-bit ubuntu?
[01:26] <Rtk> josh: open your browser, and find out where files are download too.
[01:26] <B|aSS> all my prob are on kde gnome just work perfectly
[01:26] <m3F> When i try to manipulate my iPod with Banshee or Exaile or Rhythmbox i have problems and the process fails. It happens since i installed Exaile 0.3.0.2
[01:26] <Rtk> KDE is the worst WM ever.
[01:26] <EWR> B|aSS i can see the desktop if i switch Visual Effects to "non"
[01:26] <EWR> "none"
[01:26] <chai> nyqvist, you uninstalled the old one, installed the open source one, and rebooted?
[01:26] <fodder_> EWR what video card are you using
[01:27] <josh__> ok rtk...even though it is already installed somewhere?
[01:27] <B|aSS> what distro again?
[01:27] <EWR> fodder_ 9200 se or something never had trouble with 9.04. animations are also slower on 9.10
[01:27] <EWR> B|aSS : 9.10 karmic
[01:27] <nyqvist> chai, nope. i will do it now.
[01:27] <fodder_> you probably need the drivers for it
[01:27] <ksbalaji> mine is openoffice ver 2.4 in ubuntu hardy. I wish to install oo  3.0 - latest ver, not available in my present repo. How please?
[01:28] <bastid_raZor> pingya: normally installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will install a working flash..
[01:28] <EWR> fodder_last time i tried installing drivers, my pc wouldnt boot properly
[01:28] <EWR> i'd get fuzziness and rainbow colors
[01:28] <EWR> NEVER AGAIN lol
[01:28] <B|aSS> EWR dunno pal
[01:28] <chai> EWR, if you don't install drivers, you won't be actually using your graphics card...
[01:28] <pingya> bastid_raZor, i tried to reinstall the restricted extras hoping that it would start to work again but it didn't
[01:28] <TCHebb> EWR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=034d3ceb8c138f5c1e63577f71ce677b&p=8213877&postcount=11
[01:28] <m3F> how could i know what is the problem between Ubuntu Jaunty and my iPod?
[01:28] <B|aSS> chai karmic does all that for you
[01:29] <Out_Cold> m3F, diagnose... what are your symptoms?
[01:29] <B|aSS> karmic is easier than window7
[01:29] <fodder_> EWR other than the correct drivers, i would maybe settle for less gui effects and use the basic video setting
[01:29] <Guest9958> oops..
[01:29] <chai> B|aSS, yea true, but not to the fullest extent of the card
[01:29] <ozzloy> how do i get the mysql command? i did aptitude install mysql but i still don't have it.  is it provided by another package?
[01:29] <B|aSS> hes 64bit tho
[01:30] <Strife89|PalmTX> What's the easiest way to view a client's desktop to help them out?
[01:30] <B|aSS> im 32
[01:30] <bastid_raZor> pingya: sometimes there are add-ons in firefox that interfere with flash. possibly mv ~/.mozilla/ to ~/.mozilla.old   and restart firefox.
[01:30] <Strife89|PalmTX> I'm running VIsta, they're running Ubuntu 9.10.
[01:30] <rexha> I just installed GLEST from USS and it runs very slow , why ?
[01:30] <ozzloy> oh i'm a doofus, sudo aptitude mysql didn't actually install anything
[01:30] <chai> EWR, if the driver from 'hardware drivers' screws things up, try downloading the driver from the nvidia site, i had similar issues with mine
[01:30] <Rtk> @strife: Use remote desktop viewer, it's already installed.
[01:30] <EWR> fodder_ how can i reduce color rez.
[01:30] <Rtk> Oh
[01:31] <chai> m3F, you gotta post a specific problem, or error, or something
[01:32] <pingya> bastid_raZor, thanks, i will try that and see what happens
[01:32] <rexha> I just installed GLEST from USS and it runs very slow , why ?
[01:32] <quietone> ksbalaji: have a look at  http://download.openoffice.org/index.html
[01:32] <bastid_raZor> pingya: if it doesn't you can simply delete the newly created ~/.mozilla/ and mv ~/.mozilla.old back to ~/.mozilla/
[01:32] <Testtube> I love ubuntu Just wanted to throw that out there.
[01:33] <ksbalaji> quietone, thanks
[01:33] <Rtk> @testtube, you don't think it's bloated?
[01:33] <Testtube> Specifically the server edition
[01:33] <Out_Cold_> Rtk, desktop may be bloated
[01:33] <Rtk> It comes with too many pre-installed packages.
[01:33] <m3F> Out_Cold_: chai: when i try to load music to my iPod using Banshee or Rhythmbox the aplication hangs up.
[01:33] <Rtk> 25,000 I believe.
[01:34] <Out_Cold_> Rtk, then build your own from scratch.. use the minimal/server install
[01:34] <Rtk> Nah, Arch & Gentoo are available.
[01:34] <Testtube> The minimal/server install is rock solid :P
[01:35] <m3F> Out_Cold_: chai: and it seems to happen since i installed Exaile 0.3.0.2 in Jaunty
[01:35] <Rtk> Ubuntu does look great though, just comes with too many programs I don't need.
[01:35] <chai> Rtk, ubuntu server + fluxbox isn't very bloated ;)
[01:35] <Rtk> Fluxbox, yuck.
[01:35] <Testtube> Ubuntu server is a great product.
[01:35] <Out_Cold_> Rtk, no way there is 25k packages installed maybe like 1200 on a default install
[01:35] <chai> Rtk, hah to each his own. whats your DE
[01:35] <Rtk> I dislike KDE, Gnome & fluxbox very much.
[01:36] <Rtk> XFCE.
[01:36] <chai> Rtk, fluxbox is definitely lighter than XFCE, maybe not as pretty
[01:36] <B|aSS> kde too fat nowaday
[01:36] <ksbalaji> friends! allow me to share my happiness. I just installed google chrome and was surprised. Flash works excellent! Felt bad that FF,Opera,Konqueror,Epiphany could not perform likewise! Speed also aaah!
[01:36] <ticko> how do i set up a account to login in via smb or ftp from a mac ...i have samba set up and can transfer to mac but i cant log into my ubuntu from my mac
[01:36] <mrpink57> question of a mount --bind I have set one up for a tmpfs, however the area I have it mounted from is still there.  Do these files still get bigger or does it all go to my bind?  The bind is setup in fstab
[01:36] <Out_Cold_> m3F, i would lean more to it being an issue with exaile. i think it depends on kde libs?
[01:37] <Rtk> Fluxbox is very plain.
[01:37] <mrpink57> Rtk: openbox is plain...er
[01:37] <Rtk> Being lightweight isn't a problem, I don't have a 8 year old computer.
[01:37] <B|aSS> the only problem about gnome is the name
[01:37] <Rtk> Yea, I dislike openbox too.
[01:37] <B|aSS> everything else work just fine
[01:37] <mrpink57> if you want something smaller then gnome but not flux I'd look at XFCE, very stable
[01:37] <Testtube> You was just complaining about things having bloatware :P
[01:37] <Rtk> The next version of Gnome looks very impressive though.
[01:38] <poseidon> Is ubuntu 10.04 going to have yahoo as the default search engine?
[01:38] <Rtk> Hopefully not.
[01:38] <m3F> Out_Cold_: i use, gnome, but i installed and then removed Amarok here. I do not know your point.
[01:38] <B|aSS> Xfce pretty good true
[01:38] <Strife89> How can I set up my Ubuntu computer to be accessed via Remote Desktop over the Internet, rather than just locally?
[01:38] <poseidon> Rtk, well.  I think they would blow that idea out of the water now that it and M$ have combined
[01:39] <chai> Strife89, you behind a router?
[01:39] <Strife89> chai: Yup.
[01:39] <bastid_raZor> Strife89: portforward port 5900 on your router to your internal IP
[01:39] <mrpink57> question of a mount --bind I have set one up for a tmpfs, however the area I have it mounted from is still there.  Do these files still get bigger or does it all go to my bind?  The bind is setup in fstab
[01:40] <bastid_raZor> Strife89: be sure to set up password required. anyone can log on if you don't set some sort of authentication
[01:40] <Rtk> Has anyone used Enlightenment? It's the only one I haven't used.
[01:40] <Strife89> bastid_raZor: Will do.
[01:40] <Out_Cold_> m3F, it could be that removing/installing the different apps might have removed a library that could cause issues.. maybe purging those applications and reinstalling would fix it
[01:40] <mrpink57> Rtk: I have very briefly and did not care for it, I use dwm now.
[01:41] <Rtk> Hm, it's just that I'm always looking for something better.
[01:41] <Rtk> I'm always switching distro's.
[01:41] <coz_> Rtk,  well I have used Elive  which is enlightenment with compiz
[01:41] <chai> Strife89, what bastid_raZor said, and also look into dynamic dns if you want a way to connect without usign the current external ip
[01:41] <Dunkirk> Anyone know why Samba complains about not being able to access "usershares", even though I haven't specified anything about them in smb.conf?
[01:41] <coz_> Rtk,  elive is fine  I prefer gnome
[01:41] <Rtk> Ah, compiz is great.
[01:41] <mrpink57> Rtk: at the start of getting into Linux I distro swapped a lot, I have a TON of live cd's here.  But I eventually settled on Arch, and use Debian for server.
[01:42] <coz_> Rtk,   elive  is not free however so....
[01:42] <Dunkirk> Since I haven't put anything about them in the config file, I thought maybe it was something that Ubuntu had compiled in by default.
[01:42] <Rtk> Hm, I don't want to pay for a distro. I'd rather donate to the project I like.
[01:42] <Out_Cold_> Rtk, i think it's when you really get into one distro that you start benefiting greatly
[01:42] <mrpink57> Rtk: which distro are you saying you would pay for?
[01:42] <coz_> Rtk,  then I would stick with ubuntu and install kde   gnome  lxde and xfce  for variations
[01:43] <Dunkirk> Out_Cold_: Agree. Most whole-heartedly.
[01:43] <Rtk> Well, I've tried about 20. I love Xubuntu, Mint, DreamLinux & Sabayon.
[01:43] <m3F> Out_Cold_: i purged and reinstalled Banshee and the problem persists.
[01:43] <Rtk> Never ever will I use KDE.
[01:43] <Out_Cold_> m3F, purge all the music apps you installed and reinstall 1 to start.
[01:44] <mrpink57> Rtk: I shed a tear when I started up Sabayon I can't believe what they did to Gentoo
[01:44] <slyco> yay for gnome
[01:44] <Rtk> I agree, but Sabayon looks so great.
[01:44] <Zack> hey guys, i updated ubuntu and installed the ati restricted driver via the gui and now my display craps out on start.  im logged in through the recovery shell.  any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[01:45] <Zack> after restart this is
[01:45] <m3F> Out_Cold_: i will do that, thank you. Will tell you about solution tomorrow, today here is to late. I have to cook :D
[01:45] <Rtk> I don't think I'll be 100% satisfied until I make my own from scratch.
[01:45] <mrpink57> Zack: check your error log for xorg in /var
[01:45] <Out_Cold_> m3F, good luck
[01:45] <m3F> thank you Out_Cold_
[01:45] <mrpink57> Rtk: LFS is waiting with it's documentation for you
[01:45] <Out_Cold_> Rtk, build a gentoo sys then..
[01:45] <jolaren> How can I know where my bluetooth device is mounted? My cellphone that i
[01:45] <jolaren> s
[01:46] <chai> Rtk, true that, i'm about halfway through LFS right now on another system
[01:46] <mrpink57> jolaren: try just typing mount
[01:46] <ticko> do i need samba 4 to share something
[01:46] <Out_Cold_> jolaren, if it's mounted it will be in /mnt or /media
[01:46] <Rtk> I think I will use Gentoo eventually.
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> !ot > Rtk
[01:47] <Rtk> It's just a pain switching distros, I do this once a fortnight.
[01:47] <mrpink57> if youre not using old hardware Gentoo is great, just enjoy system breaks
[01:47] <Zack> mrpink57 ok so in Xorg.0.log i see that the ati restricted driver is not loading with a 'no screens found' error.  is this the right log or am i just seeing the one from my recovery console login
[01:47] <sysdoc> Anyone having problems with amarok playing mp3's even with codecs installed for it?? Rythembox plays just fine
[01:47] <kassah> how does one go about setting up a VPN? without it taking over all internet communciation just 10.0.0.x communications
[01:47] <kassah> ?
[01:47] <flupke> hello, sometimes building .debs with dpkg-buildpackage fails with the vanilla packages taken from the repositories, I guess this must be because of missing dependencies, is there a way to pull them all for a package ?
[01:47] <mrpink57> Zack: the log is from what has happened only via error since recovery console did not error it would be from the previous session
[01:48] <blakkheim> flupke: aptitude build-dep packagenamehere
[01:48] <ksbalaji> I also tried sabayon. Its nice. Unfortunately lacks support like ubuntu.
[01:48] <jolaren> nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
[01:48] <jolaren> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[01:48] <flupke> blakkheim, great, thanks I'll try
[01:48] <ticko> do i need samba 4 to share something
[01:48] <Out_Cold_> kassah, in your firewall rules. also depends on where your firewalls are
[01:48] <Zack> mrpink ok so clearly the restricted driver is crapping out. can you point me in the right direction on how to disable it from the shell?
[01:49] <mrpink57> Zack: I do not know exactly how it install, I do not know what the name of it is.  If you find the name you can do locate <name> or whereis <name> then disable
[01:49] <Zack> mrpink57 oh the other error is PCS database file /etc/ati/amdpcsdb not found
[01:49] <Losha> !ati
[01:50] <kassah> Out_Cold_, there is a consumer router on both my network and the remote network I'm VPNing to ( the VPN end point is MS Server 2008).. I'm using network manager to connect to the VPN on my desktop
[01:50] <ksbalaji> Can someone try organizing mergers of good OSs? like Sabayon and Ubuntu? (do I make sense?)
[01:50] <mrpink57> ksbalaji: maybe someone else understand but I do not
[01:50] <kassah> Out_Cold_, however, since they have a normal cable connection their upstream is very limited, so I want the internet traffic to go over the local router instead of thourgh the VPN to their router
[01:51] <mrpink57> ksbalaji: a place to check out distro's is www.distrowatch.com
[01:51] <Zack> Losha yeah i read that page before jumping on here but it was apparent how to disable from the shell
[01:51] <kassah> Out_Cold_, after connecting to the VPN it appears both connections are still active, my routing table just seems to have been tweaked to send everything over the VPN (besides the VPN itself)
[01:51] <ksbalaji> mrpink57, thanks for responding.
[01:51] <flupke> blakkheim, I had no missing packages, how is that possible that the bots build the .debs from the source packages ? (or maybe it doesn't work that way?)
[01:53] <mrpink57> Zack: did you do aticonfig?  this would setup your xorg (I do not use xorg just hal).
[01:53] <flupke> or maybe the .debs are built by humans ?
[01:53] <teage> Is this correct? "genisoimage path/to/file to be converted/   path/for/output.iso"
[01:53] <Out_Cold_> kassah, it may be possible to forward the different ports to different addresses using iptables or a gui app like fwbuilder.
[01:54] <Losha> Zack: Well, I was thinking that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI talks about the names of deb files used to install the ATI drivers. You could use those same names to uninstall it...
[01:54] <mrpink57> Zack: did you also do do a fglrxinfo?
[01:54] <kassah> Out_Cold_, hmm... I suppose I could do such... just seems overkill for a laptop which doesn't have a constant IP...
[01:55] <kassah> Out_Cold_, looking into the firewalls
[01:55] <Out_Cold_> kassah, use those rules on your laptop.. it should work for dhcp..
[01:55] <Yvier6> hey guys, i installed ffmpeg (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6963607&postcount=360) but i don't know where i can find the vhook library...can you help me?
[01:55] <Losha> kassah: changing the routing tables to send everything over the vpn is standard practice (and some businesses require it, lest you open a security hole where someone can route packets through your machine into/out of the corporate network. It can be undone, but you should have a good grasp of what you're doing and what the risks are...
[01:56] <Out_Cold_> kassah, you want to have your laptop internet using your local router on a 192.168.*.* and have your vpn connection on 10.*.*.* right?
[01:56] <kassah> Out_Cold_, correct
[01:57] <flupke> how are the .debs in the official repositories built ?
[01:57] <Out_Cold_> kassah, i'll see what links i can find you.. but yea, forwarding/blocking traffic from each source would probably do what you want
[01:57] <Bakeneko> I don't see TrueCrypt in any of the default repositories.  Is it on a repository anyone knows?
[01:57] <kassah> Losha, yeah... I understand this... right now the security on this network is higher than on the remote network.
[01:57] <Yvier6> nobody know it's very very important
[01:58] <kassah> Losha, also... when you're killing the upload at the remote location with your VPN... there are problems
[02:00] <Losha> kassah: ok, then you should be able to adjust the routing table using the 'route' command. I think you want an explicit route via the vpn for 10.* then a default route via 192 (or vice-versa)
[02:00] <kassah> Losha, correct
[02:00] <kassah> Losha, 192 is the local network 10 is the remote
[02:01] <Losha> kassah: sounds right. Does it work?
[02:01] <kassah> Losha, trying shortly
[02:03] <Zack> mrpink57 Losha hahah. ok so the new thinkpads have switchable graphics with os detection.  it switched me back to intel graphics without telling me. :(  Once i turned that setting off in the bios everything seems to be working
[02:03] <Zack> not sure ill stick with the ati card though
[02:03] <Zack> heard they are sketchy
[02:03] <kassah_> Losha, connected on a different machine here so that I won't get disconnected trying
[02:03] <Losha> Zack: I've had good luck with nvidia and all linuxes, but then, I don't game...
[02:04] <Losha> kassah: best of luck...
[02:04] <seanbrystone> you have to have itunes to view the podcasts videos though?
[02:04] <seanbrystone> wrong chat
[02:04] <Losha> flupke: building good debs is a complex process, one I've never bothered to learn
[02:06] <Clone29> anyone use gnome-shell? i'm have some problem...
[02:06] <Clone29> help me..
[02:06] <Clone29> at ubuntu 9.10
[02:06] <Out_Cold_> flupke, something like here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[02:07] <Zack> Losha so is the consensus proprietary drivers over open (intel)?
[02:07] <andi_> how to use soundconverter in the terminal?
[02:07] <ardchoille> Clone29: describe your problem. You do know that gnome-shell is still work in progress?
[02:08] <kassah_> Losha, http://www.pastebin.ca/1802246
[02:08] <kassah_> Losha, that's from the machine connected to the VPN with all the traffic going over the VPN
[02:08] <Losha> Zack: Sorry, dunno, I haven't followed the politics in decades...
[02:09] <kassah_> Zack, for ubuntu... diddn't know there were proprietary drivers for intel graphics
[02:09] <MikeJB> Ubuntu Netbook Remix. USB installer. Is it also a "live USB"?
[02:09] <kassah_> Zack, as far as I know Intel's sponsors open source drivers
[02:10] <askhader> Does anyone here know how to get intel-hda audio cards (for HP laptops) to work in Karmic?
[02:10] <Johnny1> Whenever I print something in Microsoft Office Powerpoint 2007, I comes out as something that is zoomed in on the powerpoint slide, Help ME!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:10] <locyaw> Hello. i am looking for some help with a Logitech S520 keyboard. It works except when xserver is loaded
[02:10] <Clone29> ardchoille: okay...i can check this..
[02:10] <kassah_> Losha, wish I understood what the UGH stuff meant
[02:10] <ardchoille> Johnny1: that sounds like a problem for ##windows
[02:10] <askhader> Johnny1: Yeah, stop using Microsoft software.
[02:11] <Zack> kassah_ yeah i know that was my question. is it usually better go with proprietary drivers or the open source ones
[02:11] <kassah_> Zack, depends on the driver and it's state and what you're doing with it
[02:11] <Losha> kassah_: I thought it was U= up, G=gateway, H=host route, but I'm 10 years out of practice with this stuff, sorry...
[02:11] <kassah_> Zack, for intel... there really isn't proprietary.... so open source all the way
[02:11] <Clone29> hallo anyone,i'm not have wifi driver for DELL 1014..help me to take this drive..
[02:11] <Clone29> ^^
[02:12] <MikeJB> I have 3 blank 4 GB flash drives. I need to know the technicalities of Ubuntu Netbook Remix's installer. Does it just wipe the drive and install over it or does it do some kind of partioning?
[02:12] <kassah_> Losha, at least you're putting me on the right track =)
[02:12] <kassah_> Zack, for nvidia... I use proprietary because i play games... and the 3d there is better for now
[02:12] <Losha> kassah_: man route documents the flags. Wish I remembered this stuff better
[02:12] <Dill> MikeJB, you will only need one of those drives
[02:12] <Zack> kassah_ hehe yes i know there isnt.  my laptop has two graphics cards.  an ati and an intel
[02:12] <Dill> MikeJB, a two-gig will also work
[02:13] <flupke> Out_Cold_, thanks I'm sure I'll find interesting infos in there
[02:13] <MikeJB> Dill: It's for a LUG
[02:13] <Dill> MikeJB, but you can use the os before installing it
[02:13] <kassah_> Zack, Intel... thanks to Eric Anholt has gotten waaay better lately... but I don't think his latest stuff is in Ubunutu yet
[02:13] <Dill> MikeJB a lug?
[02:13] <igie> Any Samba experts wanna help me share my printer and folders with my windows machines ? I'm having a hard time and don't know what i'm doing wrong.
[02:13] <MikeJB> it's not like the good ol' days of 16 floppies to install Netscape 1.0 :P
[02:13] <DcMeese> How would I go about TRIBOOTING with OSX Leopard, Win7, and Ubuntu?
[02:13] <kassah_> Zack, it's in xorg-edgers if you're adventurous =P
[02:13] <MikeJB> DcMeese: Bootcamp?
[02:13] <DcMeese> No
[02:13] <kassah_> Zack, as for ATI... havn't had one of those in a long time... so no clue there
[02:13] <DcMeese> I dont have osx
[02:13] <DcMeese> I have win7
[02:13] <MikeJB> You're not allowed to install OS X on other computers.
[02:14] <MikeJB> Not like the whole "you're not allowed" stops people from jailbreaking iStuff
[02:14] <DcMeese> I know, it would have to be a hackint0sh
[02:14] <kassah_> Zack, ATI I get the impression that it's better proprietary as long as you're not doing multi-monitor... but that was years ago
[02:14] <ardchoille> DcMeese: as MikeJB hinted, we cannot support that here
[02:14] <locyaw> Logitech S520 keyboard. I have legacy USB support enabled, it works in a terminal setting. However, when Xserver is running, i get absolutely nothing from the keyboard. I can post any kind of information that may be needed to get this keyboard working in X. Any suggestions?
[02:14] <MikeJB> DcMeese: Perhaps go to one of those channels? I have a feeling Ubuntu is easier to get working
[02:14] <deepocean> Good evening again.
[02:14] <DcMeese> oh oh k
[02:14] <Albi> is there a base system iso for ubuntu, kind of like the net inst for debian?
[02:14] <MikeJB> DcMeese: The Mac part would be the hardest.
[02:14] <MikeJB> DcMeese: I'd recommend installing Mac OS X via whatever hack method and then installing Ubuntu.
[02:14] <DcMeese> i know
[02:15] <MikeJB> Just plan ahead with enough space.
[02:15] <DcMeese> win7 and ubuntu is easy ive heard
[02:15] <Sensiva> deepocean How did it go?
[02:15] <blakkheim> !mini > Albi
[02:15] <Dill> DcMeese, yes it is
[02:15] <deepocean> Sensiva, It went pretty well I am on ubuntu now.
[02:15]  * DcMeese is excited about building his computer!
[02:15] <kassah_> Losha, ahh... the 0.0.0.0 in there is where it defined the default route...
[02:15] <Sensiva> gewwwd, feel the magic of the beans :D
[02:15] <DcMeese> a'sfl
[02:15] <Dill> DcMeese, i have it on my Eee PC 1005ha
[02:16] <deepocean> Sensiva, I will play with MS Office tomorrow. If that goes well I am freed from Windows.
[02:16] <DcMeese> Dill, you triboot?
[02:16] <MikeJB> Dill: UMBC LUG... I was told to install Ubuntu netbook remix on a bunch of flash drives. So I am.
[02:16] <MikeJB> For tomorrow...
[02:16] <Talon_> I'm using ubuntu 9.10, and I can't figure out how to adjust certain sounds, like cd volume, line in volume, etc.. this bizarre sound thing only has one slider. I'm not used to this at all. are there any better mixers to install?
[02:16] <Losha> kassah_: yes, and it all goes via ppp0. The only other route you have is to the host at 10.0.0.44. I think you need to add a network route to network 10.0.0.0 via 10.0.0.44 for all the 10.* addressess
[02:16] <Dill> DcMeese, dual boot, not triboot
[02:16] <Albi> blakkheim, thanks i know of mini, the problem is that has to download the base system while installing. debian has a mini like that but it also has the netinst which has the base system on the disc
[02:16] <Dill> DcMeese, i would never do that
[02:16] <Sensiva> deepocean I know its hard to leave MS Office, it will take sometime, but with some effort you will get used to it
[02:17] <Dill> MikeJB, a bunch of flash drives?
[02:17] <DcMeese> Dill, Im thinking about using VMWare
[02:17] <DcMeese> but idk
[02:17] <MikeJB> DcMeese: If I were to triboot, I'd start with a Mac
[02:17] <deepocean> Sensiva, I have no choice. I need Visual Basic Scripts.
[02:17] <bobg> I want to change from a 6 gig to a 20 that runs faster.  How do I copy one drive to another?
[02:17] <icepeda> Hi everybody, I have a issue with my webcam wen I try to use GStreamer for AVrecord, when I use v4l2src it crash and then I can't access, is is some way to restart the driver without reboot the machine?
[02:17] <Dill> DcMeese, i have windows7 and ubuntu on mine
[02:17] <MikeJB> Just because of legal stuff and getting the Mac OS X to run properly and all.
[02:17] <Sensiva> errrm
[02:17] <Talon_> how do I unmute my micriphone?
[02:17] <MikeJB> DcMeese: Virtualization would probably be best though.
[02:17] <MikeJB> If your computer can handle it.
[02:17] <MikeJB> Depends on your purposes.
[02:17] <Sensiva> deepocean if wine fails, vbox to go
[02:17] <Talon_> this sound controllers stupid ...
[02:18] <soreau> locyaw: Have you checked dmesg and the X log for any interesting messages?
[02:18] <Sensiva> this is how I live
[02:18] <abel> Are there any software in ubuntu similar  with Homeshare in windows?
[02:18] <deepocean> Sensiva, Yes I will use Wine for regular Excel/Word and Vbox for VBA scripting.
[02:18] <DcMeese> MikeJB: So I should start with OSX, use bootcamp, and then install Ubuntu 9.10?
[02:18] <Losha> kassah_: oops, wrong way round. You need a network route for 192.168.1.0 via 192.168.1.1 (I think)
[02:18] <locyaw> soreau, i have checked the X log, but not the dmesg
[02:18] <Sensiva> Good luck, glad you made it to the free world :D
[02:18] <soreau> Talon_: Try 'alsamixer' in your terminal and use arrow keys for control and M to (un)mute
[02:18] <icepeda> any body can help?, my device is /dev/video0
[02:19] <Dill> DcMeese, ive heard that windows only likes to play in the first partition
[02:19] <Talon_> soreau: is there a graphical front-end for it?
[02:19] <icepeda> do you think I need to go to GStreamer channel?, because I think that's not related with Gstreamer
[02:19] <patriotaSJ-87> hi
[02:20] <soreau> Talon_: If you right click or double click on your volume icon in the panel I think it will show a frontend
[02:20] <patriotaSJ-87> how i join in spanish ubuntu?
[02:20] <soreau> ! es | patriotaSJ-87
[02:20] <ardchoille> !es | patriotaSJ-87
[02:20] <MikeJB> DcMeese: I honestly don't know how to do this. If I wanted every modern OS, virtualization is a lot easier. Plain dual booting is a pain when you need to switch.
[02:20] <locyaw> soreau, i am not getting any unusual messages in dmesg either
[02:20] <icepeda> patriotaSJ-87 entra a #ubuntu-es
[02:20] <MikeJB> Tribooting with fancy install method is probably worse.
[02:20] <Talon_> dclick does nothing, and right click I get mute or sound preferences, and those preferences are hardly worth a darn
[02:20] <quietone> Talon_: the sound pref gui in 9.04 had more options. I also don't like the 9.10 one.
[02:21] <icepeda> Hi everybody, I have a issue with my webcam wen I try to use GStreamer for AVrecord, when I use v4l2src it crash and then I can't access, is is some way to restart the driver without reboot the machine?
[02:21] <RuediiX> Hello could someone help me with an Internet networking issue?
[02:21] <soreau> locyaw: Can you check 'xev' to see if you get any X events from the keyboard?
[02:21] <DcMeese> MikeJB: So you dont think I should even /install/ Ubuntu? Use only vm's
[02:21] <DcMeese> ?
[02:21] <DcMeese> or Ubuntu only
[02:21] <MikeJB> DcMeese: Well, VMing under Linux is better. Windows is a processor hog.
[02:22] <MikeJB> Linux w/ XFCE is the best way to virtualize under a computer that isn't ultra-high-end; I know from experience.
[02:22] <DcMeese> MikeJB: that sounds promising
[02:22] <MikeJB> The only CPU usage will be the virtual machine
[02:22] <locyaw> soreau, i do not get any events from xev. unless i unplug and plug the receiver back in. but even after that, i get no response from the keyboard
[02:22] <Talon_> RuediiX, like what kind of networking? Internet connection sharing?
[02:22] <Losha> icepeda: I'm guessing, but you might be able to rmmod the kernel module and then reload it. Type lsmod to see the kernel modules and see if anything looks likely...
[02:22] <soreau> locyaw: Which terminal does it work in? A tty console or gnome-terminal?
[02:23] <locyaw> soreau, tty console
[02:23] <RuediiX> talon_ When I connect my computer through my router it won't load two sites, but when I connect it straight to the modem it works fine.
[02:23] <DcMeese> MikeJB, I have an iPhone, so I plan on using the iPhone SDK a little. Thats the only reason I want OSX
[02:23] <Dill> DcMeese, ubuntu won't sync with your iphone
[02:24] <soreau> locyaw: The best i can figure is that you may need to tell X to use the keyboard somehow possibly through an input device section of your X conf
[02:24] <Dill> DcMeese, i'm told you can use and ssh, but i was never able to get it to work
[02:24] <RuediiX> Talon_ I've heard other complaints on Ubuntu 9.10 on Rhapsody's login site (one of the two sites) however I'm not sure about the other one.
[02:24] <MikeJB> DcMeese: You could try virtualizing Mac OS X if all you want to do is use one thing.
[02:24] <MikeJB> As long as your computer can handle it.
[02:24] <quietone> Talon_: a while back someone here reverted to the 9.04 sound  prefs. I kept a note that they used https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa. Maybe that will help
[02:24] <Losha> RuediiX: odd. Always the same 2 sites? Or different ones?
[02:24] <DcMeese> Dill, oh yeah lol. So I think I'll probly go with partitioning for Ubuntu and Win7 and VMing OSX.
[02:25] <RuediiX> Losha Always the same 2 sites, the Rhapsody login server and Linuxtracker.org
[02:25] <icepeda> Losha: How can I remove and reload the module?
[02:25] <locyaw> soreau, okay. im not sure how relevant it would be, but i have seen a few threads about this combo where the mouse is being read as a keyboard, i have have two mice showing up when i should only have one
[02:25] <ardchoille> MikeJB  DcMeese: As I stated earlier, we cannot provide support for installing OSX on anything, including VM, as it's a copyright violation. Probably should go to another network altogether
[02:25] <Dill> DcMeese, that's why i have win7 and ubuntu dual-booted.  that way i can sync my itouch and blackberry in windows and run everything else in ubuntu
[02:25] <RuediiX> Losha: Linuxtracker.org I got permission to diagnose, and I can't access any ports on it through the router, but I can access it just fine through my cable modem.
[02:25] <Dill> DcMeese, i can also wirelessly transfer files with my other windows pc's
[02:26] <MikeJB> ardchoille: Didn't know about the virtualization thing...
[02:26] <icepeda> Losha: How can I remove and reload the module?, I see some video modules and one is v4l2, if I remove it how can I reload it?
[02:26] <DcMeese> Dill, Yeah thats what ill probly do. Thanks. Better leave before Im banned for discussing VMing OSX lol
[02:26] <MikeJB> But I was wondering how you'd get a Mac OS X *install* CD, aren't they all *update* CDs?
[02:26] <MikeJB> So yeah, if you're talking about illegal CDs...
[02:26] <MikeJB> Not here.
[02:26] <soreau> locyaw: That sounds to me like X is getting confused because it's not familiar with this keyboard possibly.. I would like to think you can set it straight in xorg.conf somehow
[02:27] <Losha> icepeda: You can try: sudo rmmod v4l2 ; sudo modprobe v4l2 but the exact commands vary from one release to another....
[02:27] <locyaw> soreau, okay. i will take a look and see if i can figure that out. thank you very much for the help
[02:27] <MikeJB> Dill: Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix wipe the flash drive or just partition it?
[02:27] <MilitantPotato> How do you get ureadahead to reprofile (?)
[02:27] <kassah_> Losha, I think I figured it out... in the VPN config, under the IPv4 Settings, Routes Button, I selected "Use this connection only for resources on its network" then added a route Address 10.0.0.0 subnet mask 255.255.255.0 with blank gateway and metric =)
[02:27] <Dill> MikeJB, isn't linux and mac osx all built on the same kernel?  that means that they are more or less the same when you get to the bare bones
[02:27] <kassah_> Losha, seems to have worked!
[02:27] <Dill> MikeJB, it gives you three options:
[02:28] <Losha> kassah_: very cool. Peek at the routing table to see what it did, if you like...
[02:28] <MikeJB> Dill: Mac OS X is built on FreeBSD kernel, iirc
[02:28] <MikeJB> a forked version probably.
[02:28] <Dill> MikeJB, 1 - you can run it off of the usb drive before you load it
[02:29] <bobg> QUESTION:  Can I copy this working hard drive of Ubuntu to another (larger) hard drive (that is also faster)?
[02:29] <soreau> locyaw: In case it's of any help, try 'man xorg.conf' and see the InputDevice section
[02:29] <Dill> MikeJB, 2- you can partition the drive with whatever you have and ubuntu (this was a little tricky and i can go into more details later)
[02:29] <Losha> RuediiX: can you ping linuxtracker.org through the router. What if you use the ip address to surf to it instead of by name?
[02:29] <kassah_> Losha, yeah... that table is what allowed me to figure it out.. thanks =)
[02:29] <Dill> MikeJB, 3 - you can format completely wipe and load
[02:29] <coz_> bobg,  mm  I have never tried that ...usually I just clean install onto the new harddrive
[02:29] <MikeJB> Dill: I'm asking about the flash drives I'm putting the installer on, sorry for ambiguity. I blame the English language when wording-confusion happens.
[02:30] <Dill> MikeJB, that's fine
[02:30] <locyaw> soreau, thanks. ill take a look at that as well
[02:30] <Dill> MikeJB, it should all work on one 2 GB flash drive
[02:30] <Dill> MikeJB, but i would use the full version and not the NBR
[02:30] <MikeJB> Dill: You said it only needs 2 GB. These are 4 GB... so what happens to the other 2?
[02:30] <bobg> coz_ That is where the problem started.  I tried that and have issues with Audacity.  I've been on their forum with no results
[02:30] <Dill> MikeJB, they just aren't use
[02:30] <RuediiX> tell losha nope, on either.  I've done serious diagnostics.
[02:30] <MilitantPotato> How do you force ureadahead to retrace at next boot?
[02:31] <hiexpo> hello all
[02:31] <coz_> bobg,  audacity problems>>. mmm  I dont use audacity recnetly let me see if i have it installed
[02:31] <Losha> bobg: in general, you can copy drives. Do you know what partitions you have on the source drive?
[02:31] <Dill> MikeJB, just follow the directions and create the live USB with the .iso file
[02:31] <RuediiX> Losha: anyways I'm going to try to run through the router with a version before Karmic on a LiveCD to see what happens.
[02:31] <MikeJB> Dill: Well, this is for the LUG Installfest tomorrow. In case anyone brings a netbook.
[02:31] <Dill> MikeJB, that's cool
[02:31] <MikeJB> Thus the three flash drives.
[02:31] <RuediiX> Losha:  I'll also try my Karmic LiveCD which may not have the firewall installed.
[02:31] <barcode> sex
[02:31] <VoTinh89nt> chao moi nguoi ,co ai VN o Nha Trang ko
[02:31] <icepeda> Losha: Ok, let me try becuase now, it doesn't crash :P
[02:32] <Dill> MikeJB, then you can repeat the process for all three drives
[02:32] <Dill> MikeJB, you can also burn it to a cd
[02:32] <Losha> RuediiX: it can't hurt, but I suspect the problem is on the router, not the linux host.
[02:32] <bobg> Losha:  A friend gave me this drive with Mandrake on it a few years ago,  I loaded "intrepid" and it's upgraded to Karmic
[02:32] <Losha> barcode: sex: Command not found.
[02:33] <barcode> D:
[02:33] <deepocean> Why can I not install "Microsofts Core Fonts" from Ubuntu software installer. It says: Not available in the current data
[02:33] <Dill> MikeJB, do you need help with any of this?
[02:33] <MikeJB> Dill: Someone else is doing the CDs. This is for netbooks, which don't have CDs.
[02:33] <MikeJB> or Macbook Airs? :P
[02:33] <hiexpo> because microsoft
[02:33] <Losha> bobg: open a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l, then paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:33] <Dill> MikeJB, okay
[02:33] <barcode> Losha: bash: sex: who you want to sex?
[02:34] <MikeJB> Dill: Though now that you bring it up, maybe I should make one of the flash drives have Ubuntu regular just in case.
[02:34] <icepeda> any idea where I can start to study about kernel?, I mean, I would like to be involved with kernel and device drivers
[02:34] <Dill> MikeJB, yeah.  the NBR was annoying
[02:34] <carbm2> How in the world do you disable gdm in Karmic?
[02:34] <icepeda> any good book or web page for beginners?
[02:34] <carbm2> update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:35] <carbm2> doesn't work
[02:35] <soreau> locyaw: Another thing I am thinking, since it works in tty, maybe you just need to set it correctly in gnome-keyboard-properties
[02:35] <Losha> icepeda: there are books written on the linux kernel. It's a large^H^H^H^H^H huge learning curve...
[02:36] <bobg> Losha: I'm not that familiar with terminal......will that "post it" on that website, and then will I have to download it?
[02:36] <Dill> MikeJB, the NBR doesn't give you a desktop to work with and you have to use these odd side tabs for the menus
[02:36] <locyaw> soreau, I have tried that, and that didn't help either
[02:36] <hiexpo> remember everyone google is your best friend many of the questions asked on here are out there on the web explained in most detail and can save the people helping here so much time and they can move on to more serious things that hjave not yet been answered
[02:37] <carlll> i need help port forwarding
[02:37] <asdf1> i need help with a mouse problem. can't left click
[02:37] <blakkheim> asdf1: sure, i've got a helpful link for you to cl- oh wait
[02:37] <asdf1> just installed ubuntu on this laptop, and i managed one click before it stopped working
[02:37] <MikeJB> Dill: "I'm just following orders." I wouldn't have chosen 64-bit for the regular Ubuntu install if I were staging this event, either.
[02:37] <icepeda> Losha: what is the best book you ever see about kernel?, I know kerner is HUGE but I would like to learn, I already saw couple about kernel and device drivers, are from O'really
[02:37] <locyaw> soreau, i did just notice in my xorg log two lines: PreInit returned NULL for "Logitech USB Receiver" and "config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)"
[02:38] <Losha> bobg: you run the command 'sudo fdisk -l' in the terminal, then browse to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and cut&paste the text into the web page. Nothing gets posted until you hit 'send' on the web page.
[02:38] <MikeJB> Dill: Though maybe NBR would be good for iPads? Does it multitask and provide flash?
[02:38] <asdf1> blakkheim, heh
[02:38] <carlll> PLS HELP
[02:38] <bastid_raZor> carlll: portforward.com
[02:38] <asdf1> blakkheim, the right click and scroll wheel work
[02:38] <Dill> MikeJB, no ubuntu "provides" flash, but it can handle it (sort of)
[02:38] <Dill> MikeJB, ubuntu is a more linear os and doesn't handle flash very well
[02:38] <asdf1> blakkheim, and i'm fairly handy with the keyboard, so i can manage, but the mouse needs fixing
[02:39] <blakkheim> asdf1: does it work on a livecd/different os?
[02:39] <bobg> Losha:  I give it a try later tonight........thanks
[02:39] <Dill> MikeJB, there are a few apps you can use to do flash, but it isn't optimal
[02:39] <shenzhong__> hi, all
[02:39] <shenzhong__> i am a new guy here. i tried to get cacti-plugin-0.8.7e-PA-v2.5.zip from http://mirror.cactiusers.org and http://www.cactiusers.org, however, it's not available anymore. and could you email cacti-plugin-0.8.7e-PA-v2.5.zip, monitor.tar.gz, settings.tar.gz and thold.tar.gz to me?
[02:39] <Dill> MikeJB, but all ubuntu multitasks
[02:39] <FloodBot1> shenzhong__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <asdf1> blakkheim, same thing on live disc
[02:39] <MikeJB> Dill: Flash *does* make a computer fan like nothing else except for Vista.
[02:39] <blakkheim> asdf1: you sure it's not the actual mouse that's the problem then?
[02:39] <MikeJB> If there's one thing I liked about the iPad was lack of flash.
[02:40] <asdf1> blakkheim, i thought it was doing the same thing in windows, but apparently not. upgrading ubuntu hasn't fixed the prob though
[02:40] <icepeda> Losha: the v4l2 doesn't crash this time (strange), I swear I was  :S:P I will come back to you when it does again
[02:40] <Dill> MikeJB, true.  I like flash, which is another reason i have win7 on one partition and ubuntu on another
[02:40] <asdf1> blakkheim, yep. tried a different mouse, and the buttons on the touchpad are the same way
[02:40] <icepeda> Losha: the v4l2 doesn't crash this time (strange), I swear it was  :S:P I will come back to you when it does again :P
[02:40] <Losha> icepeda: It's just like taking your car into the garage :-)
[02:40] <MikeJB> Linux with flash is still faster than Windows just starting to boot :P
[02:41] <icepeda> Losha: hahaha, good one :P
[02:41] <deepocean> Anyone installed ms core fonts?
[02:41] <Losha> icepeda: may I pm you?
[02:42] <asdf1> deepocean, i have... why?
[02:42] <hudnix> well I just learned that if you have 2 drives mirrored with nvidia raid, and turn off the raid in the bios, it's not off as far as the ubuntu installer is concerned. It *will* do the install over both the drives as if mirror is still on...
[02:42] <magn3ts> Hi. I'm looking for someone to help me move my home partition to an alternative partition and encrypt it in karmic.
[02:42] <icepeda> Losha: pm?, I don't know what pm is :S
[02:42] <Dill> MikeJB, but loading ubuntu is a snap.  when you put the usb drive in it boots to ubuntu, but with an icon on the desktop
[02:42] <Losha> icepeda: private chat (message)
[02:42] <Dill> MikeJB, this icon gives you the option to start the loading process
[02:43] <icepeda> Losha: sure
[02:43] <Dill> MikeJB, but before you load anything you are allowed to play around in ubuntu to make sure you want it on your computer.
[02:43] <ouyes> is there a video repair software? one of my movie file can not be played at the last few minutes?
[02:43] <asdf1> magn3ts, you can use usermod in terminal to move/change home dir
[02:44] <Dill> MikeJB, after you are done messing around, and you start the loading process, it guides you through your languages and whatnot (standard os loading procedures)
[02:44] <deepocean> asdf1, I installed them but I cannot find them in for exampel FireFox
[02:44] <magn3ts> asdf1, how does that work with encryption
[02:44] <Dill> MikeJB, then it asks how you will want to load ubuntu: partition your drive half and half, a custom partition, or a full wipe and load of ubuntu
[02:44] <asdf1> deepocean, using linux firefox, or windows firefox?
[02:44] <asdf1> magn3ts, not sure
[02:45] <asdf1> magn3ts, i imagine you can move/change it then use truecrypt
[02:45] <asdf1> er
[02:45] <asdf1> mebbe not that since it's your home dir
[02:46] <asdf1> anyone have any idea why the left click on the mouse and trackpad on this laptop might not be working? need to fix
[02:46] <ouyes> anyone get an idea about my question?
[02:46] <deepocean> asdf1, Linux Ubuntu
[02:46] <asdf1> deepocean, hmm?
[02:46] <newuser20> hello?
[02:46] <asdf1> deepocean, oh, linux version of firefox
[02:47] <hiexpo> asdf1, go into preferances / mouse / and check your settings
[02:47] <asdf1> deepocean, well, they're for windows apps. you'd find them in the windows version methinks
[02:47] <Losha> ouyes: what format is your video in?
[02:47] <magn3ts> asdf1, uh, dm-crypt and truecrypt aren't compatible >_>
[02:48] <newuser20> I am wondering if any had got something called "Distribution updates" through the update manager in Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:48] <hiexpo> ouyes, whats wrong didn't read up
[02:48] <kilrae> should I get 30 "New Installs" when running the updater?
[02:49] <asdf1> hiexpo, checked settings. fixed a couple. no help. :(
[02:49] <hiexpo> kilrae, sure soimetimes
[02:49] <Ububegin> I am trying the jboss server using the *nohup* command.. If i do ./run.sh , it is OK running.. But if i nohup ./run.sh.. the nohup command just remains there , as if though it is hung.. It just displays *nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'* and hangs there.. Any ideas or hints
[02:49] <ouyes> is there a video repair software? one of my movie file can not be played at the last few minutes?
[02:49] <asdf1> newuser20, that means a new release of ubuntu has been released
[02:49] <kilrae> it looks like something is requiring build-essentials, i don't plan on compiling anything on that computer
[02:50] <hiexpo> ouyes, not that i know of
[02:50] <asdf1> newuser20, ubuntu is a 'distribution' of linux
[02:50] <kostkon> newuser20, yeah. the chrome update installed some extra packages
[02:50] <hiexpo> asdf1, have you tried rebooting the system ?
[02:50] <kostkon> newuser20, i assume that you have chrome installed on your system
[02:50] <asdf1> ouyes, i find vlc is very good with damaged videos
[02:51] <asdf1> hiexpo, has persisted across a dist-upgrade, so yes
[02:51] <newuser20> yeah, have chrome. sorry for being slow
[02:51] <newuser20> am a slow typer
[02:51] <ouyes> Losha, hiexpo asdf1  .rmvb
[02:51] <newuser20> these updates were bellow the normal security updates and made me wonder if I need them
[02:51] <asdf1> ouyes, muh?
[02:52] <ouyes> the format of the video
[02:52] <trism> newuser20: it seems to be because they moved a dependency in chrome from lsb-base to lsb, hopefully they will fix it, I certainly don't want all those extra packages
[02:52] <newuser20> some of the updates were listed as "alien, bsd-mailx, build-essential". should I install them
[02:53] <kostkon> newuser20, yeah. you get the "Distribution updates" section every time a new package or packages are going to be installed. or when there is a major version change on a package that is going to be updated.
[02:53] <asdf1> ouyes, oh. still, vlc is very good for continuing through corrupt places
[02:54] <hiexpo> newuser20, alien is for converting rpm packages ,and yes to build essentials
[02:54] <kostkon> newuser20, chrome seems to need them. at least for now.
[02:54] <trism> newuser20: there is a thread about it here http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=13907a5a6c537d10&hl=en I'm waiting to update until someone responds
[02:54] <Bash23> Hey guys, I need help. I'm trying to reinstall Grub and it wont work.
[02:54] <Losha> ouyes: it's a proprietary format. Googling 'rmvb repair' gives a few hits, but they are all windows programs. I'd be very surprised if you found am equivalent linux program. Also, if there are *minutes* missing from the end, it may be too big a gap to be reparable anyway....
[02:54] <asdf1> no help for my mouse? if this can't be fixed soon, ubuntu will have to be abandoned for windows
[02:54] <Bash23> I tried doing this
[02:54] <Bash23> http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[02:54] <newuser20> okay, thank you all for the info. is this chat open all of the time?
[02:55] <asdf1> newuser20, yep
[02:55] <kostkon> newuser20, yeap
[02:55] <mrpink57> can someone take a look at this pastebin I am trying to make sure I have bound uzbl cache right, and my /tmp folder is now a tmpfs system http://pastebin.com/d19eb6b12
[02:55] <hiexpo> newuser20, alien is for converting rpm packages ,and yes to build essentials
[02:55] <ouyes> Losha, thanks
[02:55] <hiexpo> oops lol
[02:55] <hiexpo> 24/7
[02:55] <Bash23> nm
[02:56] <asdf1> ouyes, Losha most windows apps will run fine anyway
[02:56] <Losha> asdf1: I don't see how you can make that claim. It's not even true on windows...
[02:56] <newuser20> okay, thank you again all. Bye.
[02:56] <ouyes> asdf1, it is not the case of mine, it can not be played in window now,
[02:56] <asdf1> Losha, lol
[02:57] <m3F> bye!
[02:57] <barcode> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZoFIqvLhZQ
[02:58] <Losha> barcode: please stay on topic...
[02:58] <barcode> omfg
[02:58] <barcode> i keep typing in the wrong window
[02:59] <barcode> ill leave :P later
[02:59] <ripdisk> i'm setting up vnc on 9.10. It works fine within my network, but i can't connect to it via my public IP. I think maybe it has to do with setting a public key, but i'm not sure how or where the file is to do so.
[03:01] <asdf1> i really need some help for this mouse problem. i've set up this laptop for someone and if she can't click her mouse she's obviously not gonna keep ubuntu
[03:01] <Losha> ripdisk: much more likely that incoming connections are blocked coming from the internet (if they aren't, they should be). Is there a firewall of some kind stopping incoming connection requests?
[03:01] <kareeser> quick question: My laptop brightness keys are wonky, but I don't know which package to file it against
[03:01] <kareeser> anyone?
[03:02] <kareeser> asdf1, tried a different mouse?
[03:02] <asdf1> kareeser, yep
[03:02] <kareeser> asdf1: heh, thought I'd ask.
[03:02] <asdf1> kareeser, and it's the same with the buttons on the touchpad
[03:02] <ripdisk> losha: it's a fresh ubuntu install. i don't think there is a firewall. my router has been set up to foward 5900 to that box..
[03:03] <asdf1> kareeser, mhm. sensible question. at least you asked. :)
[03:03] <kareeser> asdf1: did you do an md5sum on the cd image and the burnt CD prior to installation?
[03:03] <hiexpo> asdf1, unplug the current mouse and reboot and see if the mouse pad than works
[03:03] <kareeser> asdf1: also - try hiexpo's suggestion :P
[03:03] <asdf1> kareeser, no, but i'm pretty sure it's fine
[03:03] <Losha> ripdisk: sounds good. What client are you using to connect?
[03:03] <asdf1> hiexpo, hm. i haven't tried precisely that, but this has persisted across a distro upgrade
[03:04] <ripdisk> losha: tight vnc on window 7. but the thing is, i can conect just fine when i use my network IP
[03:04] <ripdisk> but not my public IP
[03:04] <asdf1> oh, btw. it's an old ibm thinkpad if that helps anyone
[03:04] <isolat3dsh33p> hey guys, where can I find the source for window list applet?
[03:05] <asdf1> isolat3dsh33p, check their home page? check
[03:05] <asdf1> *check About
[03:05] <hiexpo> everytime someone does a dist upgrade something crashes it is just eiseier to download whatya want and inbstall fresh
[03:05] <asdf1> kareeser, hiexpo, ok gonna try the reboot
[03:05] <hiexpo> kool
[03:05] <hiexpo> good luck
[03:05] <vipjerrys> how do get yahoo chat
[03:06] <isolat3dsh33p> asdf1, not given. :(
[03:06] <Losha> ripdisk: um, does tight vnc on window 7 have any debugging you can turn on. It's obviously not a server issue...
[03:06] <John-_> Yay Pidgin has an Ubuntu version :D
[03:06] <hiexpo> vipjerrys, pidgin
[03:06] <scobert> vipjerrys: you can you use another client , IE Kopete or Pidgin
[03:06] <Losha> hiexpo: I always install fresh. Fewer problems...
[03:07] <hiexpo> absolutely
[03:07] <ripdisk> losha: no.
[03:07] <ripdisk> i can't find a client that's any good for windows
[03:07] <ripdisk> it sucks
[03:07] <ripdisk> but i don't think it's the clients problem
[03:08] <ripdisk> it works fine within the network
[03:08] <FloodBot1> ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <asdf1> kareeser, hiexpo, ok, i'm not sure if it's that or something else i did, but i can click again! woot
[03:08] <kareeser> asdf1: glad to hear it
[03:08] <asdf1> i may have just needed a reboot from something else i did
[03:08] <hiexpo> it was a conflict
[03:08] <asdf1> indeed
[03:08] <kareeser> yeah
[03:08] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, on the server, please run 'netstat -an | egrep 590' so we can see which port the server is listening on
[03:08] <asdf1> maybe
[03:09] <hiexpo> because when you did the dist upgrade in downloaded  drivers for both devices and than became confused on what to use so killed them both
[03:09] <asdf1> thanks alot. good day
[03:10] <phil> Hey guys
[03:10] <hiexpo> kool your welcome
[03:11] <phil> Can somebody answer a question real quick for me?
[03:11] <Losha> !ask | phil
[03:11] <phil> So I have Ubuntu as a dual boot via the windows installer.... is there a way to access files on the other OS? Basically, can I access music on Vista when im using Ubuntu?
[03:11] <phil> I have a huge music collection that I cant really take off of vista in order to re-put it on Ubuntu
[03:12] <scobert> yeah
[03:12] <scobert> mount the windows volume
[03:12] <Sagaci> phil, yeah, just make sure ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs are installed
[03:12] <Losha> phil: if your windows system uses ntfs, you can mount the windows partitions and read/write them. It's not so easy going the other way though...
[03:12] <Sagaci> phil: just click on the drive from the places menu
[03:14] <phil> I see Filesystem and CD/DVD Drive here
[03:14] <Sagaci> phil:  click filesystem
[03:14] <Sagaci> phil: windows partition, voila
[03:14] <phil> yea theres no "windows partition"
[03:15] <MilitantPotato> phil, install ntfs-config.  System>Administration>Synaptic Package manager
[03:15] <MilitantPotato> In the search bar, type ntfs-config
[03:15] <MilitantPotato> Once it's installed, run it, and enabling NTFS drivers is point and click from there
[03:16] <MilitantPotato> drives*
[03:16] <phil> ok will do... ill keep you posted
[03:16] <phil> thx
[03:17] <Sagaci> phil: while you're at it, make sure ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs is installed too
[03:18] <barcode_> Losha, i need help now! D:
[03:18] <MilitantPotato> ntfsprogs is handy to have also.  Ntfs-config depends on ntfs-3g, that will be installed automatically
[03:18] <barcode_> i accidently removed the wireless network widget , how do i connect to the internet now :(
[03:19] <Sagaci> barcode_: in the panel?
[03:19] <barcode_> Sagaci, yeah its not there anymore :(
[03:19] <phil> installed the stuff, opened the config, and the "internal" was greyed out, but "external" i checked. still no windows in File System.... think it might not work because there are no seperate partitions? XD
[03:20] <bastid_raZor> !resetpanel | barcode_
[03:20] <Sagaci> phil: try sudo fdisk -l and then paste output to a pastebin
[03:21] <Losha> phil: are you telling us you're running a wubi install?
[03:21] <Sagaci> phil: or try rebooting
[03:21] <barcode> !resetpanel | barcode
[03:21] <barcode> its not working :3
[03:21] <MilitantPotato> phil: did you shutdown windows properly?
[03:21] <Sagaci> !resetpanel
[03:21] <soreau> barcode: The bot is not here right now
[03:21] <soreau> Sagaci: ^^
[03:21] <Sagaci> ubottu on holiday man
[03:21] <Nytek_> where did the bot go!
[03:21] <phil> i never had to make a seperate partition... i downloaded a single file from Ubuntu site and it did eveything automatically
[03:22] <urthmover> Is it possible for my bluetooth keyboard to bring my computer out of standby?
[03:22] <Sagaci> phil: sounds like wubi
[03:22] <barcode> how do i reset it? :P
[03:22] <soreau> barcode: Have you tried right clicking on the panel and going to 'add to panel' and trying to add the network manager applet back?
[03:22] <barcode> im on ubuntu-netbook-remix :/
[03:22] <barcode> it doesnt give me that option
[03:22] <Sagaci> phil: apart from this inconvenience, do you like ubuntu
[03:22] <ubott2> barcode, please see my private message
[03:22] <urthmover> I have the bt dongle plugged in and paired and the BIOS says that USB devices can bring the system out of standby....but once it goes in standby my keyboard keeps flashing "no connection"
[03:22] <ubott2> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[03:23] <phil> I would make it my default OS if it could play "real" games (hardcore gamer here)
[03:23] <phil> i love it
[03:23] <ripdisk> losha
[03:23] <ripdisk> are you still here?
[03:24] <Losha> ripdisk: I am. You'll have to remind me what we were talking about though...
[03:24] <Sagaci> phil: well you could confirm it that you run wubi, then maybe you could delete ubuntu out of windows (assuming you used Wubi) then properly install it as a dual boot on separate partitions
[03:24] <ripdisk> losha: vnc
[03:24] <ripdisk> sorry, i'm cookng dinner too.. while trying to fix vnc
[03:24] <Losha> ripdisk: oh right. Did you ever run that netstat command?
[03:24] <ripdisk> but anywhoo
[03:24] <ripdisk> yeah it didn't do anything
[03:24] <phil> how would I go about deleting it off of vista? ( I want to give it a bigger portion of my hard drive anyways)
[03:24] <barcode> i reset the panel, the wireless app still isnt there :(
[03:25] <Sagaci> phil: what's your hdd size
[03:25] <soreau> barcode: Did you try restarting the panel?
[03:25] <barcode> yes sir
[03:25] <ripdisk> billy@1337h4x:~/.ssh$ netstat -an | egrep 590
[03:25] <ripdisk> billy@1337h4x:~/.ssh$
[03:25] <soreau> barcode: How did you restart the panel?
[03:25] <phil> this one is.... i think over 100.... i have 60 gb left, gonna give it 40 gb to Ubuntu
[03:25] <phil> my main pc is 2 TB
[03:25] <barcode> soreau:  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[03:25] <soreau> barcode: That does not restart your panel
[03:25] <Losha> ripdisk: run it again please, just to make sure, but drop the trailing zero netstat -an | egrep 59
[03:25] <Sagaci> phil: ubuntu really only needs say 20gb, and that's still quite a bit
[03:26] <barcode> how do i restart it then D:
[03:26] <soreau> barcode: That resets your panels settings back to default. To restart it, do 'killall gnome-panel'
[03:26] <diss3ntive> Ubuntu only requires 4gig
[03:26] <diss3ntive> they recommend at least 8GB
[03:26] <barcode> soreau, i just restarted it still, nothing
[03:26] <Sagaci> diss3ntive: yeah but using it as a desktop main machine, need room for files, etc
[03:27] <phil> gotcha, so 20 should be plenty?
[03:27] <diss3ntive> yea, that was just the min specs, 20 is more than what it wants...so anything past 8 is for your files, etc
[03:27] <klappi> 64k should be enough for everyone
[03:27] <Sagaci> phil: yeah, definitely, and if you need the same file in Vista, you can just drop it in
[03:27] <ripdisk> Losha: IT worked but i don't see the port i'm looking for. let me make sure it's running still...
[03:27] <geekthras> okay so my laptop ran entirely out of juice, and now I can't boot an xfce session :(
[03:28] <phil> k. and how would I go about uninstalling Ubuntu from vista?
[03:28] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, standing by
[03:28] <soreau> I missed the && killall gnome-panel
[03:28] <Sagaci> phil: well if it was a wubi install, it should be located as a folder in c:/
[03:28] <barcode> :/
[03:28] <geekthras> how can I reset everything about my xfce session?
[03:28] <Sagaci> someone correct me if wrong
[03:28] <ripdisk> yeah losha, it was off
[03:28] <ripdisk> turned it back on
[03:28] <ripdisk> let me runt he command again
[03:29] <phil> gotcha... ill have to take a look when im on vista... gonna write this all down
[03:29] <soreau> barcode: Did you get any interesting messages when you ran that command from your terminal?
[03:29] <phil> it should be just a folder in my C:/ drive? I should just delete that and should be good?
[03:29] <barcode> spreau: nope
[03:29] <barcode> soreau*
[03:29] <ripdisk> losha: i did egrep 5900 and this showed up
[03:29] <Sagaci> phil: take it slowly and it'd be good to have another pc on internet to make sure you have help if you get lost
[03:29] <ripdisk> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5900            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[03:30] <Sagaci> phil: yeah that's what wubi does, doesn't partition, just puts it as a folder in your windows drive
[03:30] <MikeJB> I copied the files from the .iso to the flash drive, but it doesn't boot from it.
[03:30] <soreau> barcode: and to clarify, everything on your panel is there except the network manager applet?
[03:30] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, and you told me you forwarded port 5900 from the router, so try to connect again from the outside...
[03:30] <MikeJB> So I can't make a bootable flash drive the easy way?
[03:30] <Sagaci> phil: you'll see a performance increase too having it as a native install
[03:30] <barcode> soreau: yes sir
[03:30] <ripdisk> losha: ok.
[03:30] <phil> ok cool... im gonna go check and see if I can find this folder... ill be back in a few
[03:30] <ripdisk> failed to connect to server, losha
[03:30] <soreau> barcode: Do you recall what you did that removed it?
[03:30] <bazhang> MikeJB, copied as in copied data? or used unetbootin
[03:31] <MikeJB> Copied all the data in the .iso
[03:31] <bazhang> MikeJB, that won't work.
[03:31] <friendishan> hello
[03:31] <MikeJB> bazhang: I know. That's why I'm here.
[03:31] <friendishan> !ask
[03:31] <Sagaci> phil: scroll down and do it their way http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[03:31] <bazhang> MikeJB, use unetbootin to do it
[03:31] <barcode> soreau: i downloaded something from the ubuntu software center and it was like "automatically connect without the wireless app in the tool bar" or something
[03:31] <ubott2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:32] <friendishan> anyone can help me for increasing my net speed?
[03:32] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, run netstat again to check the server didn't die again...
[03:32] <ripdisk> already did
[03:32] <hiexpo> barcode, did you download wicd
[03:32] <ripdisk> and it did not
[03:32] <soreau> barcode: Is there any output from 'ps ax|grep nm-applet|grep -v grep'?
[03:32] <friendishan> anyone can help me for increasing my net speed?
[03:32] <Losha> ripdisk: running out of ideas. Check the forwarding config on the router?
[03:32] <barcode> hiexpo: no soreau: nope
[03:32] <soreau> barcode: From Alt+F2 run dialog, run 'nm-applet'
[03:32] <ripdisk> i have
[03:32] <ripdisk> hundreds of times
[03:33] <DaemonFC> ureadahead is not working since the kernel I built doesn't have the module, but ureadahead depends on ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <MikeJB> bazhang: Thanks, would have never even *thought* to have looked for a name like that.
[03:33] <DaemonFC> should I just force ureadahead out with dpkg? :)
[03:33] <friendishan> anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? , it's 150 kbps but i get only 12 kbps download speed, any tweak or something?
[03:33] <Crewsr3> I want to edit my grub 2 menu to make it really easy for a new user  can I edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file? to make these changes
[03:33] <bazhang> MikeJB, which version of Ubuntu? are you burning from another linux install or from windows
[03:33] <barcode> soreau: could not open location 'file:///home/barcode/nm-applet'
[03:34] <Sagaci> friendishan: are you capped for the month?
[03:34] <soreau> barcode: Ok, try it in your terminal
[03:34] <hiexpo> where are you getting that download speed from friendshan what site ?
[03:34] <ripdisk> losha: it doesn't make any sense.
[03:34] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, go to the server, run telnet localhost 5900. Do you see some text?
[03:34] <friendishan> Sagaci no it's unlimited usage plan
[03:34] <ripdisk> well i'm ssh'd in
[03:34] <barcode> it wants me to apt-get them
[03:34] <friendishan> hiexpo everywhere the same download speed
[03:34] <MikeJB> bazhang: I personally use Fedora but my LUG wants me to bring several USB drives of Ubuntu for netbooks. Someone else has DVDs taken care of.
[03:34] <Sagaci> friendishan: is it only on torrents, as they may be throttled by your ISP
[03:34] <ripdisk> it worked, losha
[03:34] <Losha> ripdisk: doesn't matter, it'll still work. run telnet localhost 5900. Do you see some text?
[03:34] <soreau> barcode: That's the problem. Whatever you did removed the package that provides nm-applet
[03:34] <MikeJB> bazhang: Tomorrow's UMBC LUG's installfest
[03:35] <barcode> D:
[03:35] <friendishan> Sagaci no not torrents
[03:35] <ripdisk> i wasn't saying it mattered, i was just telling you that i didn't have to leave this pc.
[03:35] <soreau> barcode: So apt-get install whatever it's telling you to then run nm-applet
[03:35] <Losha> ripdisk: now run telnet <public-ip-address> 5900. Do you see the same text?
[03:35] <ripdisk> but anywho
[03:35] <dsnyders> What is visual tearing?
[03:35] <barcode> soreau:i have no internet :P
[03:35] <bazhang> MikeJB, you can use unetbootin from most linux installs as well as windows to make another linux usb bootable live usb/installer
[03:35] <Sagaci> friendishan: have you tried your connection with another system
[03:35] <Mehedi_Simon> has there any free racing games for linux?
[03:35] <soreau> barcode: ugh.
[03:35] <friendishan> Sagaci yea
[03:36] <friendishan> Sagaci everywhere the same speed
[03:36] <craigbass1976> I must be numbing it...  I went into Epiphany's preferences and told it NEVER to accept cookies.  Yet when I go look at my private data, there's a pile of them.  Installing epiphany-extensions to see if that helps...
[03:36] <ripdisk> losha: connection refused.
[03:36] <ripdisk> hmm...
[03:36] <hiexpo> barcode, can't you just reinstall the applette
[03:36] <Mehedi_Simon>  has there any free racing games for linux?
[03:36] <Sagaci> friendishan: you'd have to contact your ISP
[03:36] <soreau> barcode: 1) Can you connect with an ethernet cable? 2) It might be possible to install it from the ubuntu cd 3) You could connect to the internet via the command line
[03:36] <Losha> ripdisk: almost certainly at the router. Can you reboot it?
 there is torcs
[03:36] <ripdisk> losha: sure.
[03:36] <ripdisk> VNC	5900	5901	192.168.1.68
[03:36] <barcode> hiexpo:i wouldnt know how im a noob :/
[03:36] <Crewsr3> I want to edit my grub 2 menu to make it really easy for a new user  can I edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file? to make these changes
[03:36] <friendishan> Sagaci no i want some tweak or something, as per ISP this speed is ok
[03:36] <ripdisk> but that's the settings on the router
[03:36] <friendishan> anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? , it's 150 kbps plan with unlimited usage but i get only 12 kbps download speed, any tweak or something?
[03:36] <FloodBot1> ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <Mehedi_Simon> How can i install torcs?
[03:37] <barcode> soreau: how do i connect via command line :/
[03:37] <barcode> i tried before with iwconfig
[03:37] <dsnyders> Mehedi_Simon, are you talking about games like Pole Position?
[03:37] <barcode> i guess i didnt do it right
[03:37] <ripdisk> ok well brb losha i'm gonna reset it.
[03:37] <MikeJB> bazhang: Yeah, thanks.... cross-platform is what I was looking for and it is in the repository. Fedora's (semi?) official USB thing doesn't recognize the Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO
[03:37] <Losha> ripdisk: why isn;t it VNC 5900 5900  192.168.1.68 ?
[03:37] <soreau> barcode: What kind of connection is it? Encrypted? Open? If encrypted, what kind of encryption?
[03:37] <Sensiva> Crewsr3 Grub 2 basics http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[03:37] <barcode> open
[03:37] <hiexpo> barcode, right click on the panel where it was and click add to panel scroll the list and see if it's in there
[03:37] <Mehedi_Simon> no no. motor racing game
[03:37] <nickaugust> ok when I "ln -s target linkname" it appears as though the directory i'm working in is where the symbotic link is... even when i 'pwd'.  can I make a link that will just take me to that spot in the directory tree?
[03:37] <trism> Crewsr3: any changes you make directly to grub.cfg will be overwritten on grub updates/kernel updates, so ultimately it will just make it harder on the user
[03:37] <linuxman410> Mehedi_Simon> from ubuntu software center
[03:37] <barcode> hiexpo: im on ubuntu-netbook-remix it doesnt have that option
[03:37] <zcat[1]> vdrift is a good racing game
[03:38] <jumpnmustang> I have to agree with him. Its unlikely you can tweak it if you get the same problem with more than one computer.
[03:38] <nickaugust> just for quick access to certain folders from ~/
[03:38] <soreau> barcode: What is your interface name as listed by the output of 'iwconfig'?
[03:38] <jumpnmustang> that was for friendishan
[03:38] <barcode> wlan0
[03:38] <bazhang> MikeJB, could be corrupt iso, check the md5, sometimes takes me a couple of tries to get it done correctly
[03:38] <Crewsr3> Thanks Sensiva and trism
[03:38] <Sensiva> uw
[03:38] <friendishan> jumpmustang ok
[03:38] <zcat[1]> also trigger
[03:38] <hiexpo> barcode, oh ok
[03:39] <Losha> nickaugust: yes, just use a full pathname for linkname instead...
[03:39] <Sagaci> friendishan: it's unlikely there's a tweak or turbo booster app that's going to make your connection faster
[03:39] <MikeJB> bazhang: Well, I wanted to try it with another program to see if it was a problem with the program and not the download... since finding another program is (theoretically) faster than downloading something again
[03:39] <John-_> Most random bug ever: when I push either ctrl key, my peripheral laptop fan halts spinning
[03:39] <John-_> more of a quirk than a bug
[03:39] <friendishan> Sagaci there was some tweak i did before which made my download speed to 30 kbps before i re-installed ubuntu
[03:39] <jumpnmustang> If you are getting that big of connection difference it's either your ISP, your wires inside your house, or you have a router set up for home networking and the router is set up wrong.
[03:40] <soreau> barcode: Ok, do 'iwconfig <iface> essid <your-ap-name> && dhclient <iface>' where <iface> is the name of your interface, (wlan0) and <your-ap-name> is the name of your access point.
[03:40] <friendishan> http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/ this might work?
[03:40] <nickaugust> losha:  with the '-s' switch?
[03:40] <friendishan> jumpnmustang it's a wireless connection
[03:40] <phil> im back
[03:40] <Losha> John-_: congrats though. I've actually never heard that one before. There ought to be some kind of prize...
[03:40] <Losha> nickaugust: yes, exactly as previously only with a full pathname for linkname...
[03:40] <John-_> like, the ability for me to be able to boot windows again?
[03:40] <Crewsr3> Sensiva on this website it says to go to /etc/default/grub to edit the file....for some reason I don't have that directory
[03:40] <barcode> soreau: wtf i sudo'd and im getting permission denied
[03:41] <phil> Yes there is a folder in my vista C:/ called ubuntu, and has boot folder inside
[03:41] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, anythoughts
[03:41] <Losha> John-_: greedy...
[03:41] <soreau> barcode: You need to use sudo for both commands...
[03:41] <jumpnmustang> friendishan wireless how? ISP is wireless by nature, you made it wireless through a router, or its a cell type connection?
[03:41] <barcode> oh duh xD
[03:41] <friendishan> hello anyone can help me do this ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:41] <hiexpo> friendishan, it has nothing to do with linux it is on the othere end the connection there itself
[03:41] <John-_> take it from me...never swap the locations of Windows and Linux between an internal and external hard drive...
[03:41] <Sensiva> Crewsr3 are you sure that its Grub2 that is installed? or Legacy Grub?
[03:41] <Sagaci> phil: use the method i stated before, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[03:41] <MikeJB> bazhang: I like the unetbootin interface better anyway, even if I'll never be able to make sense of the name.
[03:41] <friendishan> jumpnmustang router
[03:41] <barcode> soreau: ...
[03:42] <barcode> soreau: i love you <3 thanks ^^
[03:42] <nickaugust> losha:  i did 'ln -s /usr/local/nginx/ /home/ubuntu/nginx' but pwd still shows "~/nginx$ pwd"
[03:42] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, yes this is a fresh install of 9.10
[03:42] <nickaugust> losha: /home/ubuntu/nginx
[03:42] <Sagaci> phil: via add/remove will hopefully clean up more registry entries, if any
[03:42] <nickaugust> losha:  when I enter the directory I want it to actually take me to /usr/local/nginx
[03:42] <Sensiva> Crewsr3 try ls /etc/defaults/grub
[03:42] <ripdisk> losha: i'm back.
[03:42] <phil> ahhhh thank you verry much
[03:42] <friendishan> i remember
[03:42] <friendishan> it was this tweak i did http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:42] <Sagaci> phil: what's your download speed
[03:42] <jumpnmustang> friendishan If you disconnect the router and direct connect does it make it faster?
[03:43] <friendishan> jumpnmustang nope
[03:43] <soreau> barcode: Were you able to start nm-applet ok now?
[03:43] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, $ ls /etc/defaults/grub
[03:43] <Crewsr3> ls: cannot access /etc/defaults/grub: No such file or directory
[03:43] <friendishan> anyone can help me with this faster
[03:43] <compuman> does anybody know if there is an ubuntu driver for the radeon graphics card?
[03:43] <ripdisk> losha: same error
[03:43] <friendishan> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:43] <ripdisk> no change
[03:43] <Losha> ripdisk: why isn't your config line VNC 5900 5900 192.168.1.68 i.e forward 5900 to 5900? You have 5901 !!
[03:43] <ripdisk> can't connecct :(
[03:43] <Sensiva> Crewsr3 sorry default not defaults
[03:43] <mehedi34> when i try to open synaptic package manager it shows-----"Unable to get exclusive lock
[03:43] <friendishan> jumpnmustang can u help me do this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:43] <ripdisk> losha: is that incorrect?
[03:43] <mehedi34> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first." what can i do?
[03:44] <friendishan> Sagaci can u help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:44] <ripdisk> losha: ok i changed it.
[03:44] <friendishan> epinky
[03:44] <Losha> ripdisk: when you connect to public address 5900 you want it forwarded to local address 5900 where the server is listening. Where did 5901 come from?
[03:44] <bazhang> mehedi34, close the other application once it is finished
[03:44] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, that worked I was able to open the file
[03:44] <bazhang> mehedi34, you can only run one instance of apt at a time
[03:44] <mehedi34> ok
[03:44] <barcode> soreau: yes <3
[03:44] <Sagaci> friendishan: can't help you there, and it's an old guide
[03:44] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, run telnet <public-ip-address> 5900 again
[03:44] <soreau> barcode: Cool, glad I could help :)
[03:45] <phil> 15mbps
[03:45] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, so I can make some adjustment to this file then run update-grub and I should be good to go right?
[03:45] <barcode> +1000 for soreau :D thanks man
[03:45] <friendishan> Sagaci no i require help with the installation of that
[03:45] <friendishan> Sagaci i remember that was the tweak i did earlier
[03:45] <Sagaci> phil: so 160kbytes down, do you have download quota issues
[03:45] <hiexpo> mehedi34, what for the other to finish
[03:45] <mehedi34> oh. thanks
[03:45] <ripdisk> what the heck
[03:45] <ripdisk> i can't even ssh now
[03:45] <friendishan> anyone can help me with installation of http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[03:45] <Sensiva> Crewsr3 exactly, follow the instructions in that thread to guide you on how to modify that file then do sudo update-grub
[03:45] <phil> no
[03:45] <ripdisk> brb
[03:46] <jumpnmustang> I really can't  see that fixing your issue.
[03:46] <Crewsr3> Sensiva, thank you for your help!  :)
[03:46] <Sensiva> uw uw :D
[03:46] <Sagaci> phil: i see, anyway. Downloading ubuntu and updates and extras will be about 1 gb to download, just letting you know
[03:46] <phil> ok thx
[03:46] <Quan-Time> WHY does ubuntu insist on locking out my laptop DVD rom
[03:46] <ripdisk> dang thing didn't connect ot th enet
[03:46] <Losha> nickaugust: so what happens now when you cd to /home/ubuntu/nginx ?
[03:46] <friendishan> how do i edit /etc/sysctl.conf ?? using gedit??
[03:46] <Sagaci> phil: once you're in ubuntu you may be able to change your repo list to your isp for free quota downloads for main, universe
[03:47] <Quan-Time> its ALWAYS locking disks in there, and i dont know any way to stop it, i have to reboot.. anyone with ideas ?
[03:47] <nickaugust> losha:  well I see the nginx smbolic link
[03:47] <phil> yea im gonna check all the stuff i loaded on here and then uninstall... create a new partition, and then reinstall via DVD/USB right?
[03:47] <Losha> nickaugust: ok, run ls -l <symbolic link>. Does it point to the right place?
[03:47] <ripdisk> losha: i think my ip changed or something wtf
[03:47] <MSK> Good morning ..
[03:47] <loops> Quan-Time,  have you tried "eject" from the command line ?
[03:47] <nickaugust> losha: yeah...
[03:48] <Losha> ripdisk: if it's not a static address (which cost more) it *can* change when you reboot...
[03:48] <Sagaci> phil: yeah, CD, DVD or USB is fine. are you 32-bit or 64 bit
[03:48] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: adding users too the /etc/fstab line for your CD Rom might help
[03:48] <Losha> nickaugust: so what happens now when you cd to /home/ubuntu/nginx ?
[03:48] <Quan-Time> loops: holy crap it worked.. all software solutions deny it... cheers :)
[03:48] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: Yea, add users too the fstab entry for your CD drive
[03:48] <phil> well, i think i installed 32 bit vista and 64 bit ubuntu.... its wiered... its 64 bit compatible i know for a fact
[03:49] <nickaugust> losha:  It looks like i'm in '/home/ubuntu/nginx/'  but what I want is for it to show me in '/usr/var/nginx'
[03:49] <MSK> I am using Ubuntu 9.04 with lotus notes 8.02 (linux version) .. when i scroll over the messages in lotus notes screen will become black on some messages .. how to over come this ..
[03:49] <phil> and what is download quota? i am running off of a university internet connection... i never heard of any limits
[03:49] <hiexpo> phil 32 bit is better
[03:49] <chai_> hi all, i used to have working sound, then I upgraded to linux-image-2.6.31-20 and now in sound preferences I get "dummy audio output" and no sound whatsoever
[03:49] <Quan-Time> MilitantPotato: ok, how would i do that.. sudo gedit /etc/fstab ??
[03:49] <hiexpo> phil, how much ram do you have
[03:49] <MilitantPotato> phil: do you have 4gigs or more of ram?  If not, no need for 64bit
[03:49] <Losha> nickaugust: if you do an ls, are you actually in /usr/var/nginx ?
[03:49] <Sagaci> phil: 32-bit if you want, unless you really need to use more than 3.5gb of ram, you'll run into a few less issues with 32bit
[03:50] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:50] <phil> i think i have 3 gigs
[03:50] <nickaugust> Losha:  if I do a list yes... but if i do pwd i'm in /home/ubuntu/ngix
[03:50] <nickaugust> losha:  i guess thats just how it works eh?
[03:50] <Sagaci> phil: then download the 32bit Ubuntu desktop edition
[03:50] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: where it says defaults, make it say 'users,defaults'  (no quotes)
[03:50] <MSK> any one please help me
[03:51] <chai_> I followed a couple of troubleshooting sites, even compiled alsa from source, and still "dummy audio output"
[03:51] <Quan-Time> MilitantPotato: kk done.. where should i be adding user, or is it my actual username ?
[03:51] <phil> and side question: my gf is just loading up Ubuntu for the first time and she got a "Disk Warning" gives a warning about Reallocated Sector Count
[03:51] <friendishan> sysctl -p for this command do i need to use sudo??
[03:51] <friendishan> der anyone?
[03:51] <Sagaci> phil: really depends on your uni but they might have a local mirror with ubuntu/linux files to leech
[03:51] <phil> i do know for afact shes extrememly low on hard drive space, less than 10 gigs
[03:51] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: only for your CD rom though.    users
[03:51] <Losha> nickaugust: actually, I believe it's configurable, I just don't recall how. Try googling bash and pwd
[03:51] <Sagaci> phil: in live cd?
[03:51] <hiexpo> phil, if you were using vista and it was setup as a 32 bit machine it is best to stay with that option on ubuntu also no need for 64 bit unless you like headaches
[03:52] <nickaugust> losha:  ok thanks anway man i'll google it
[03:52] <friendishan> .... der?
[03:52] <friendishan> sysctl -p for this do i need to use sudo?
[03:52] <soreau> MSK: That sounds like a strange problem. Are you using desktop effects by chance?
[03:52] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: not your username,  'users,defaults'
[03:52] <bazhang> friendishan, der? what does that mean
[03:52] <MSK> no
[03:52] <friendishan> bazhang no nothing
[03:52] <jumpnmustang> I love my 4 gig ssd with 1 tb external.:-)
[03:52] <soreau> MSK: And this affects the entire screen? or just lotus
[03:53] <chai_> friendishan, if i do it without sudo i get permission denied on key "vm.swappiness"
[03:53] <Quan-Time> MilitantPotato: can i PM post you that one line ?
[03:53] <Entelin> can you redirect where apt-get install installs stuff?  I dont have root access and I want to have my own program tree in my home folder with g++ in it
[03:53] <phil> what does "disk has many bad sectors" mean?
[03:53] <chai_> friendishan, so yes, i'd say so
[03:53] <MilitantPotato> Quan-Time: yep
[03:53] <ripdisk> losha: please allow twenty minutes for eating.
[03:53] <MSK> soreau: Lotus and rarely on other screens too
[03:53] <ripdisk> kthx
[03:53] <Losha> nickaugust: try pwd -P
[03:53] <hiexpo> phil, i am also on a 32 bit machine i  i have not found anything that will not run on it yey and i run cad programs on it
[03:53] <Sagaci> phil: is it an old hard drive
[03:53] <dsnyders> phil, exactly what it says.  Unfortunately it also means that your disk is about to fail
[03:53] <soreau> MSK: I'm not sure what's going wrong. Have you considered using tomboy instead of lotus?
[03:53] <Losha> ripdisk: now I'm hungry...
[03:54] <friendishan> chai_ ok thanks
[03:54] <ripdisk> lol
[03:54] <phil> Ubuntu found it, and didnt cause it right? (shes getting mad ;) )
[03:54] <MSK> soreau: As my company is using lotus domino software, i have installed lotus notes on the client side .. so i din't used tomboy
[03:54] <ripdisk> i got some steak and brusselsprouts
[03:54] <NoOutlet> Could someone help me set VLC as the default DVD playing application?
[03:54] <Losha> phil: he's right. Your disk is toast. Stop what you're doing and make a backup of anything you can't afford to lose...
[03:54] <friendishan> !lol ripdisk
[03:55] <PeterT> !lol
[03:55] <PeterT> !haha
[03:55] <Helius> anyone know a good software to backup encrypted drive
[03:55] <PeterT> !no Helius
[03:55] <ubott2> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[03:55] <chai_> Entelin, try getting the package without installing it, then adding --prefix=/target/directory when you install the package
[03:55] <otaviojr> help
[03:55] <hiexpo> NoobOmelette, what you want vlc as your default media player videos ?
[03:55] <Losha> not half as annoying as hearing ubottu pontificate on it...
[03:55] <hiexpo> oops
[03:56] <Entelin> chai_: is there a way I can determine all the packages I need to download?
[03:56] <NoOutlet> I want VLC to open when I stick in a DVD.
[03:56] <Entelin> apt-get install build-essential pkg-config libboost1.35-dev libboost1.35-doc libboost-system1.35-dev libboost-system1.35.0 libboost-thread1.35-dev libboost-thread1.35.0 libboost-filesystem1.35-dev libboost-filesystem1.35.0 libboost-date-time1.35-dev libboost-date-time1.35.0
[03:56] <Entelin> thats the stuff I want
[03:56] <Entelin> im sure all that has deps
[03:56] <chai_> Entelin, you mean dependencies? sudo apt-get build-dep packagename
[03:56] <friendishan> !lol - ripdisk
[03:56] <soreau> MSK: If you did not install lotuc from official ubuntu repos (I do not see the program in ubuntu repos) you will have to ask the lotus developers about this problem
[03:56] <ubott2> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:56] <bazhang> friendishan, PeterT please stop that
[03:56] <Entelin> i cant sudo
[03:57] <hiexpo> NoOutlet, whatyou want vlc as default for media videos?
[03:57] <NoOutlet> Movie Player was the default. I uninstalled it. Now it appears that Brasero wants to be the new default.
[03:57] <MSK> soreau:Can I configure tomboy as a mail cleint for Lotus Domino
[03:57] <hiexpo> NoOutlet, ok one sec
[03:57] <soreau> MSK: I have no idea.
[03:57] <chai_> Entelin, ok, download the package, try to install it, and if there are unmet dependencies it will tell you
[03:57] <NoOutlet> I want it to be the default for DVD playing.
[03:57] <Entelin> ok thanks
[03:57] <chai_> np
[03:57] <NoOutlet> I was able to set it as the default for video files.
[03:57] <dsnyders> MSK, I doubt it.  Tomboy is a post-it-note program, not an email program
[03:58] <hiexpo> NoOutlet, ok one sec i gotta look its been awhile lol
[03:58] <Losha> phil: all that music you talked about. Gone unless you make a backup *now*
[03:58] <Evil_Otto> i'm getting prompted to download the file when I try to access a .php file on karmic.. I know this is because apache isn't parsing the php file, but i've not been able to find any problem with the config
[03:58] <Evil_Otto> can anyone help?
[03:58] <MSK> soreau: some times it is effecting to entire system (screen will not be clear).. I need to refresh the screen ..
[03:58] <phil> not mine, its my girlfriends one thats about to fry.... shes wigging out, how soon do you think it will crash?
[03:58] <Sagaci> phil: it's highly unlikely that  ubuntu did it, but as stated then, backup any files
[03:59] <dsnyders> phil, no way to know.
[03:59] <phil> ok
[03:59] <Sagaci> phil: could be hours, days weeks, etc
[03:59] <parscoe> my buddy has ubuntu 9.10. his sata drives are not showing up in nautilus.
[03:59] <chai_> Evil_Otto, it might be a permissions issue, if you don't have permission to execute the php file it will just download
[03:59] <phil> I just love Ubuntu... if it can find things like that and windows cant... power to linux!!!
[03:59] <soreau> MSK: From what you are describing, it almost sounds like a graphics driver issue.. but not sure. Which driver are you using?
[03:59] <MSK> soreau: I will be giving ctrl+alt+f1 and once again ctrl+alt+f7 .. then the screen will be looking good
[03:59] <Sagaci> parscoe: formatted as?
[03:59] <MilitantPotato> phil: Mine died hours after wards, I think I had a head crash.  It can take minutes or days.
[03:59] <Evil_Otto> chai: permissions on the .php file?
[04:00] <Losha> phil: impossible to say when. That's why you have to make backups...
[04:00] <chai_> Evil_Otto, yea
[04:00] <MSK> soreau: not sure about the drivers .. how to check that in ubuntu ?
[04:00] <hiexpo> NoOutlet, ok you can go into system/pref /prefeered app's or the easiest way i have set them is right click on the file you want to open and than it will say what it is set as default than click open with other applilication and set it as default
[04:00] <Sagaci> phil: same issue with fedora, it found bad disk sectors on an external hdd, windows didn't seem to see or report anything
[04:00] <ballsac> hi
[04:00] <Evil_Otto> chai_: setting the permissions to 777 on the .php script did not change anything
[04:00] <ballsac> ballsac here
[04:00] <ballsac> does ubuntu work
[04:00] <MilitantPotato> phil: Most often, it's a sign the drive is slowly dying, you could have a few days.  It's likely been like that awhile, time to get a new drive :)
[04:00] <parscoe> this is shortly after installing ifuse to allow ipod . formatted as fat32 and ntfs .. but they are not showing up at all in " computer " section
[04:00] <bazhang> ballsac, yes
[04:01] <soreau> MSK: Well you could look at the X log, but I can probably guess if you show the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'
[04:01] <ballsac> i checked ubuntu in 2008 and it did not work back then
[04:01] <MilitantPotato> ballsac: easy troll is easy
[04:01] <ballsac> did they get it working
[04:01] <jumpnmustang> seems to be working for me.
[04:01] <bazhang> ballsac, did you have a support question or just wish to chat
[04:01] <chai_> Evil_Otto, hm... any other php files work?
[04:01] <ballsac> bazhang: i have a support question.
[04:01] <bazhang> ballsac, this is support only, not chat
[04:01] <ballsac> yes, yes
[04:01] <Evil_Otto> chai_: no, this was the first one I tried
[04:01] <MilitantPotato> ballsac: Install it and see :)
[04:01] <ballsac> I have support question. I very needy of support. I am linux beginner.
[04:01] <bazhang> ballsac, then ask
[04:01] <dsnyders> ballsac, ask your question.
[04:01] <jumpnmustang> Best to just ask.
[04:02] <ballsac> 10:01 <ignoring ALL from MilitantPotato>
[04:02] <phil> ok, thanks for all the help guys.... im gonna head out and redo my Ubuntu :D
[04:02] <ballsac> ok
[04:02] <soreau> MSK: Actually now that I think about it, I can't really guess since you aren't running desktop effects. Instead, can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com?
[04:02] <chai_> Evil_Otto, silly question, but you installed php?
[04:02] <ballsac> so i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop
[04:02] <ballsac> and it
[04:02] <Evil_Otto> chai: yes
[04:02] <MSK> soreau: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:02] <ballsac> ok wait a sec. does ubuntu work on laptops to begin with
[04:02] <Evil_Otto> as far as I can tell the module is being loaded
[04:02] <ballsac> cuz i dont want to waste ur times if it doesn't
[04:02] <Sa[i]nT> ballsac, Yes, of course.
[04:02] <soreau> MSK: You're most likely using the intel driver
[04:02] <Evil_Otto> whenever I try apache2 -M i get this
[04:02] <Sa[i]nT> I got it running on this laptop.
[04:02] <ballsac> ok then i'll ask my question
[04:02] <MSK> yes
[04:03] <parscoe> the drives are actually still ok and i can manually mount them per commandline .
[04:03] <soreau> MSK: All's I can say is to try again with karmic 9.10 as there have been a lot of changes in the intel driver
[04:03] <map7> I cannot get my Intel GMA950 graphics working under Ubuntu 9.10 do I have to install a special package or something?
[04:03] <NoOutlet> hiexpo: I've already set VLC as the default media player for the few video file types I have on the computer. I want it to be the default application for DVDs and that advice can't apply to the DVD.
[04:03] <Evil_Otto> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE RUN USER}
[04:03] <dsnyders> ballsac, It will work on laptops, however laptop hardware is very proprietary so some things may not work.
[04:03] <ballsac> i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop and i had this sudden urge to chase furry creatures, get fat on pizza and pop, watch gay porno and be a general retard douchebag. What could be wrong?
[04:03] <soreau> MSK: Maybe you can test on a live cd if that's convenient for you
[04:03] <parscoe> they are not showing up in nautilus, which seems like maybe something with fuse might be fubar ?
[04:03] <Evil_Otto> obvious troll is obvious
[04:03] <MilitantPotato> I called that right away :)
[04:03] <Entelin> chai_: there is no prefix option for dpkg
[04:03] <Sa[i]nT> I have an Intel 945GM in this laptop and it works fine.
[04:04] <jumpnmustang> Yep you did Mil Congrats.
[04:04] <Losha> like a bad monty python sketch...
[04:04] <MSK> soreau: I did that .. but one issue is like i am using lotus sametime intranet chat .. in 9.10 i am not able to work on 8.02 same time chat which is integrated with lotus notes.. so i am forced to use ubuntu 9.04
[04:04] <ripdisk> losha: ok i'm back. still here?
[04:04] <chai_> Evil_Otto, I get that too, but my php works
[04:04] <parscoe> normally in this install of ubuntu, his sata drives would show up as separate "removable" hard drives
[04:04] <Losha> ripdisk: I have no life, and no dinner...
[04:04] <Evil_Otto> Anyone else got any idea about the .php download-instead-of-parse issue?
[04:04] <ripdisk> losha: what about herb?
[04:04] <chai_> Entelin, ah, i read that on a forum, hold on lemme check
[04:04] <soreau> MSK: So the black screen problem does not happen but other unrelated issues occur?
[04:05] <Losha> ripdisk: after we solve your vnc problem...
[04:05] <MSK> soreau: u r right
[04:05] <ripdisk> score.
[04:05] <ripdisk> ok well the netip changed let me go check it so i can frickin ssh in
[04:05] <parscoe> usually the php issue has to do with the web server mime tyoes
[04:05] <Losha> ripdisk: ok
[04:05] <parscoe> at least from what i have seen
[04:06] <chai_> Entelin, looks like you can't do it through dpkg, you could always compile from source :P
[04:06] <soreau> MSK: Then I'd say it's definitely a driver issue. You could try upgrading your drivers using the xorg-edgers repo (for jaunty 9.04) but do so only at your oown risk
[04:06] <MSK> soreau: I raised a question in Ubuntuforums .. but there is no help on that link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310746&highlight=lotus+sametime
[04:06] <Entelin> chai_: i'm trying to install gcc,  I have no compiler, thats the problem
[04:06] <ripdisk> losha: ok.
[04:07] <Roasted> Question - is it possible to control the pixel height side of the options in the menus? For example, Im running a theme where the height of the options in system - preferences are very short. I'd like to expand them. Is that possible?
[04:07] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, logged into the server, vncserver running, listening on 5900?
[04:07] <ripdisk> yep yep
[04:07] <chai_> Entelin, hah... well from what i've read, .deb package includes a prefix already, i'm not sure if its possible to change it
[04:07] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, run telnet <public-ip-address> 5900
[04:07] <Entelin> ok hmm
[04:08] <ripdisk> losha: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[04:08] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, for completeness, run telnet localhost 5900
[04:08] <enduser000> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to get a simple setup going for jsp so I can write some basic servlets for school.  I have tomcat6 and java installed, and am using apache2 and mysql already with php.  what should I do?  .jsp files show up as plaintext on my server (locally)
[04:09] <MSK> soreau: thank you for the information u provided
[04:09] <ripdisk> losha: works fine.
[04:09] <ripdisk> this is making me angry.
[04:09] <Losha> ripdisk: back to the router config to confirm....
[04:09] <soreau> MSK: No problem. I hope you are able to fix it.
[04:09] <ripdisk> VNC	5900	5900	192.168.1.68
[04:09] <MSK> soreau: i need to try out ..
[04:09] <Ashfire908> What format do SSH keys need to be in to import them into seahorse ("Passwords and Encryption Keys")?
[04:10] <parscoe> looking at his history , gvfs, gvfs-bin, gvfs-fuse were the last updates around when it was thought to have crashed
[04:10] <Losha> ripdisk: um, also for completeness, run telnet 192.168.1.68 5900
[04:10] <hexmare> evening all , anyone experienced with getting X to use a nonstandard resolution without xinerama or twinview?
[04:11] <ripdisk> unable to connect, losha
[04:11] <ripdisk> now we're getting to it
[04:11] <Entelin> muahaha ill just use chroot
[04:11] <Losha> ripdisk: from the server, telnet 192.168.1.68 5900 doesn't work?
[04:11] <Talaskina> question - i have 9.10 desktop 2.6.31 pulse audio. I have a 7 second lag in the time it takes to start any audio. its synced after it starts and for a while i can start and stop audio normally. everything if fine. let it sit for a few minutes and its like the server shuts off and its a 7 second lag to start audio again. anyone have any suggestions on what to check? to fix the issue
[04:12] <ripdisk> no ripdisk
[04:12] <ripdisk> er
[04:12] <ripdisk> lmao
[04:12] <ripdisk> er crap i can't say lmao
[04:12] <FloodBot1> ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <ripdisk> I CAN'T FLOOD EITHER
[04:12] <ripdisk> anyway, no losha
[04:12] <ripdisk> it does not work.
[04:12] <Losha> ripdisk: can't say crap either. Tut...
[04:12] <soreau> Talaskina: Have you tried without pulseaudio?
[04:12] <enduser000> how can I use tomcat to get apache parsing .jsp files?  I have apache set up and working with php now. I've done the basics of tomcat stuff I found online from tutorials but .jsp files are still plaintext
[04:12] <Losha> ripdisk: please verify  192.168.1.68 using ifconfig -a
[04:13] <Roasted> what is this gadget browser in this screen shot? where do I get it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=57063&file1=57063-1.jpg&file2=57063-2.jpg&file3=57063-3.jpg&name=Moomex-Theme
[04:13] <ripdisk>  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:11:61:ea:bf
[04:13] <ripdisk>           inet addr:192.168.1.68  Bcast:192.168.1.255
[04:13] <ripdisk> you know what?
[04:13] <Losha> ripdisk: looks ok. So why?
[04:13] <ripdisk> i think i might know the problem, losha
[04:14] <Losha> ripdisk: tell me...
[04:14] <chai_> Entelin, did that work? i found a site with gcc binaries
[04:14] <ripdisk> i'm runnign virtualbox windows on that ubuntu box as well, which is also sharing the same connection
[04:14] <Talaskina> soreau: no, how would i go about shutting down pulse audio?
[04:14] <ripdisk> maybe this complicated things?
[04:14] <soreau> ! pulseaudio | Talaskina
[04:14] <chai_> Entelin, just in case http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries
[04:14] <ubott2> Talaskina: PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[04:14] <r43gh4r> hi everyone
[04:14] <Oak> My USB flash drive isn't being detected. It works fine in other computers, and has only been giving me a problem today. The LED in the flash drive lights up and doesn't blink. (ubuntu 9.10 - 64bit)
[04:14] <Losha> ripdisk: bridged networking?
[04:14] <jmcantrell> i need a service where i can store about ~30mb that is accessible with wget. anyone know of anything like this?
[04:14] <ripdisk> yeah
[04:14] <Entelin> thanks
[04:14] <ripdisk> bridged
[04:14] <ripdisk> bridged is correct
[04:14] <Talaskina> hm, is there an alternative i can switch too?
[04:15] <Talaskina> like alsa or would that screw up my sound
[04:15] <Losha> ripdisk: ip address of the guest os?
[04:15] <Entelin> i'm going to make my own ubuntu within ubuntu using chroot instead i think
[04:15] <ripdisk> let me go check
[04:15] <r43gh4r> i have some Q
[04:15] <chai_> Entelin, don't you need sudo to chroot?
[04:15] <Entelin> i dont think so
[04:15] <r43gh4r> someone can help me out please
[04:15] <parscoe> ok .. somehow gvfs-backends got removed .. thats what his problem was
[04:15] <Entelin> its just a shell thing
[04:15] <soreau> ! ask | r43gh4r
[04:16] <ubott2> r43gh4r: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[04:16] <Entelin> damnit your correct it does require root
[04:16] <Entelin> wtf
[04:16] <ripdisk> losha: 1.80
[04:16] <julio> #ubuntu-es
[04:16] <ripdisk> and the host is 1.68
[04:17] <Losha> ripdisk: shouldn't be a problem. I can't figure out why 1.68 won't work but localhost does. Running any firewall software on the server?
[04:17] <r43gh4r> thanks... ok i have a toshiba satellite m100 and i've installed ubuntu 9.10 on a partition... but it crashes just after logging in...
[04:17] <chai_> Entelin, I just tried that site with the binaries, it works, download them from there and you can compile the rest you need from source
[04:18] <Entelin> ok ill have a look
[04:18] <soreau> r43gh4r: Elaborate on what happens exactly that you call 'crash'
[04:18] <r43gh4r> well... it freezes... i cant do anything...
[04:19] <Entelin> chai_, isnt that fortran and not c++?
[04:19] <soreau> r43gh4r: Which graphics card model do you have as reported by 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[04:19] <chai_> Entelin, it also has gcc and g++
[04:19] <ripdisk> losha
[04:19] <Entelin> ah ok hmm
[04:19] <ripdisk> i installed firestarter in hopes to turn my ubuntu firewall off.
[04:20] <Losha> ripdisk: listening...
[04:20] <r43gh4r> dont know
[04:20] <ripdisk> but firestarter is completely off
[04:20] <r43gh4r> at the moment im on win xp
[04:20] <ripdisk> i wonder if i can ssh
[04:20] <ripdisk> bah
[04:20] <ripdisk> humbug
[04:20] <Losha> ripdisk: just for completeness, iptables -F, then retest telnet
[04:20] <r43gh4r> but this model as an "ati radeon xpress 200m"
[04:20] <macaroni> could someone help with a hard disk problem?
[04:20] <Clone29> what keyword for get codek player?
[04:21] <macaroni> My hd isn't being seen by the system anymore
[04:21] <Dan48p> hey do you guys know about errors in wine?  trying to install microsoft office
[04:21] <ripdisk> losha: still doesn't work
[04:21] <soreau> r43gh4r: Ok, can you try booting with the additional kernel parameter radeon.modest=1 by pressing E at the grub splash screen?
[04:21] <bazhang> Dan48p, check the appdb and then /join #winehq
[04:21] <Losha> ripdisk: can you ping 192.168.1.68 ?
[04:21] <bazhang> !appdb | Dan48p
[04:22] <macaroni> using palimpsest disk utility......says unknown or used
[04:22] <soreau> r43gh4r: Sorry, typo. I meant radeon.modeset=1
[04:22] <ubott2> Dan48p: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[04:22] <Dan48p> bazhang, what is appdb?
[04:22] <bazhang> see above
[04:22] <Dan48p> oh ok
[04:22] <r43gh4r> ok i'll try that
[04:22] <chai_> can anyone help me fix my sound? my system doesn't recognize my intel sound card ever since i did a software update
[04:22] <SwingBot> winrar?
[04:22] <Oak> disregard my question
[04:22] <bazhang> SwingBot, hi
[04:22] <SwingBot> I have no idea what hi is
[04:22] <Clone29> do you know about take codek player?
[04:23] <bazhang> SwingBot, did you have a support question
[04:23] <SwingBot> I have no idea what did you have a support question is
[04:23] <SwingBot> hello there
[04:23] <r43gh4r> thanks a lot... if it doesnt work i come back
[04:23] <ripdisk> losha from where
[04:23] <soreau> ! who | r43gh4r
[04:23] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I use the scroll wheel, I get switched from one workspace to another.  How do I turn that off?
[04:23] <ubott2> r43gh4r: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:23] <Losha> ripdisk: from the server...
[04:23] <chai_> SwingBot hello
[04:23] <bazhang> SwingBot, no chat here, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <SwingBot> I have no idea what no chat here, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic is
[04:23] <SwingBot> I have no idea what hello is
[04:24] <ripdisk> yes, losha
[04:24] <ripdisk> it pings...
[04:24] <r43gh4r> !soreau
[04:24] <dsnyders> Now they're letting bots run Ubuntu?
[04:24] <r43gh4r> ?? sorry im new at this
[04:24] <chai_> !bot
[04:24] <bazhang> not yet
[04:24] <soreau> r43gh4r: Yes, please highlight me by using my nick when you come back
[04:24] <chai_> hm figured i'd try..
[04:24] <ubott2> Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[04:24] <Clone29> ripdisk : help me to get keyword codek player...please..
[04:25] <soreau> r43gh4r: Just like I type your nick at the start of every statement I am making to you
[04:25] <Some_Person> Does anyone know if recordings from Windows Media Center can be played in Linux?
[04:25] <Losha> ripdisk: so to recap, from the server, you can ping .68, but can't telnet to port .68:5900 ?
[04:25] <r43gh4r> !soreau like this???
[04:25] <ubott2> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[04:25] <bazhang> r43gh4r, not with a !
[04:25] <soreau> r43gh4r: Well, soreau: will work instead of !soreau ;)
[04:25] <dsnyders> Some_Person, Linux can play a lot of things.  What is the extension on the file?
[04:25] <r43gh4r> soreau like this???
[04:26] <soreau> r43gh4r: Yes
[04:26] <meowbuntu> hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion is it easy
[04:26] <wolter> my local mdns crashed, what should I do?
[04:26] <Some_Person> dsnyders: I haven't made a recording yet so I don't know
[04:26] <ripdisk> losha: yes
[04:26] <bazhang> meowbuntu, fairly easy sure
[04:26] <r43gh4r> soreau thanks... sorry for the trouble
[04:26] <Sagaci> Clone29: what do you want, an audio/video player?
[04:26] <soreau> r43gh4r: And make sure you press E at the grub splash screen, then append radeon.modeset=1 to the kernel parameters
[04:26] <Clone29> sagaci:audio and video
[04:26] <chai_> !sound
[04:26] <Evil_Otto> yay, every call to a .php file results in an apache segfault \o/
[04:26] <dsnyders> r43gh4r, most chat programs will complete the name if you type the first few letters and press tab.
[04:26] <meowbuntu> bazhang: how can i i am using ubuntu 9.10 live cd atm
[04:27] <ubott2> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:27] <bazhang> chai_, please /msg the bot
[04:27] <Losha> ripdisk: more recap, from the server, you can ping .68, but can't telnet to port .68:5900 but you can telnet to localhost:5900 ?
[04:27] <chai_> bazhang, gotcha
[04:27] <Sagaci> Clone29: you could use VLC for video and rhythmbox or banshee for audio
[04:27] <bazhang> meowbuntu, you realise that the files on there will be lost
[04:27] <r43gh4r> soreau i'll try that... seeya in a few minutes
[04:27] <ripdisk> losha: yes.
[04:27] <dsnyders> Some_Person, Hard to say for sure.  The program mplayer seems to be able to tackle everything I've thrown at it except some encrypted wav files.
[04:28] <meowbuntu> bazhang: i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to partition
[04:28] <meowbuntu> ^ or format
[04:28] <Entelin> chai_, only half works, depends on some libs that dont exist when you actually go and try to compile something
[04:28] <bazhang> meowbuntu, then no
[04:28] <Clone29> sagaci: but i cannot use it,because all player need codek...
[04:28] <Sagaci> Clone29: try medibuntu
[04:28] <soreau> Has anyone figured out why there are so many moronic people in this world? I would really like to know for my own personal satisfaction :P
[04:28] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, I'm officially stuck. If it were my machine, at this point, I'd uninstall firestarter...
[04:29] <Clone29> sagaci : on konsole terminal?
[04:29] <meowbuntu> i know you can go from ext3 to ext 4 without having to format again
[04:29] <ripdisk> losha: how
[04:29] <ripdisk> i forgot how to uninstall stuff.
[04:29] <Luke_> does anybody know how to run the radeon graphics card under Ubuntu?
[04:29] <seanbrystone> SwingBot, do you mean i have to do sudo first before apt-get? Or can I just use apt-get (name of program)?
[04:29]  * SwingBot does you mean i have to do sudo first before apt-get? Or can I just use apt-get (name of program)?
[04:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have a suggestion for how I can actively monitor or view my current wattage/amperage input/output ?
[04:29] <ripdisk> luke: enable nonfree driver
[04:29] <ripdisk> s
[04:29] <Luke_> how?!
[04:30] <Some_Person> dsnyders: The extension is .wtv
[04:30] <ripdisk> hmm, i can't remember :/
[04:30] <Losha> ripdisk: apt-get remove firestarter should do it...
[04:30] <ripdisk> i think it's like
[04:30] <SwingBot> seanbrystone depends if you are root or not
[04:30] <enduser000> Luke_: anything in System: Administration: Hardware Drivers?
[04:30] <ripdisk> yeah i don't remember..
[04:30] <Luke_> wouln'd know!
[04:30] <seanbrystone> SwingBot, but I'm still getting errors
[04:30] <SwingBot> I have no idea what but I'm still getting errors is
[04:30] <chai_> Entelin, lame... well thats about all i can think of
[04:30] <Entelin> ok thanks for the help
[04:30] <enduser000> Luke_: look there (in teh menues)
[04:30] <enduser000> menus*
[04:31] <chai_> the*
[04:31] <soreau> Luke_: That question doesn't make too much sense. Most all radeon graphics cards work with 3D OOTB with any recent version of ubunut
[04:31] <Entelin> chai_, http://linux.die.net/man/1/fakechroot
[04:31] <Entelin> hmm
[04:31] <meowbuntu> hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion. is it easy i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to repartition or format
[04:31] <brijithmac> Hi all, After an ubnormal reboot I can not take file browser and I cannt see any thing in my desktop please help me
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> SwingBot: being human
[04:31] <SwingBot> I have no idea what being human is
[04:31] <seanbrystone> lol
[04:32] <chai_> Entelin, hah nice, i'm gonna play with that
[04:32] <igie> Samba help please - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1410602
[04:32] <soreau> Luke_: Perhaps it would help if you stated what exactly you're trying to do
[04:32] <evilbug> how can i play copyrighted cds on my laptop?
[04:32] <ripdisk> losha: i uninstalled firestarter.. i've got no idea why this doesn't work
[04:32] <Luke_> i know but i bought a $600 computer from Best Buy and ive been trying to install Ubuntu for three hours but the kernel always gets hung on the radeon card
[04:32] <Ashfire908> What format do I need to have a ssh key in to be able to import it into seahorse?
[04:32] <evilbug> audio cds **
[04:32] <chai_> Entelin, you still have to isntall fakechroot tho
[04:32] <fixworx> Help! Have been trying to enable mod_rewrite on apache2 under Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop for two days... Tried following the directions of a bunch of forum threads. Any clues? :D
[04:32] <Entelin> chai_, I can transfer the file from another system
[04:32] <soreau> Luke_: At what point does it hang?
[04:32] <Luke_> around three seconds after booting
[04:33] <Entelin> chai_, technically I could do the same for g++ but that gets much more complex
[04:33] <Losha> ripdisk: ok, rerun the checklist: from the server ping .68, telnet to .68:5900 then telnet localhost:5900
[04:33] <semitones> quick question: installing lubuntu-desktop wants to remove network manager and install wicd, but I'd like to keep network manager. Any ideas how to do this?
[04:33] <dsnyders> Some_Person, I just did some googling.  It looks like wtv isn't supported.  Mind you, I just looked at one page.
[04:33] <soreau> Luke_: Which version of ubuntu have you?
[04:33] <chai_> Entelin, hm yea i was about to suggest that
[04:33] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have a suggestion for how I can actively monitor or view my current wattage/amperage input/output ?
[04:33] <fixworx> CaptainMorgan, KillAWatt physical appliance? :)
[04:33] <Luke_> just downloaded it from main site brand new
[04:34] <kermit> why does my outgoing mail not seem to work?
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> fixworx, was thinking along the lines of an ubuntu app
[04:34] <Losha> CaptainMorgan: I used one of those killawatt thingies...
[04:34] <chai_> Entelin, maybe transfer g++ binaries and the entire /lib folder :P... would probably run into more trouble tho
[04:34] <fixworx> CaptainMorgan, of course :)
[04:34] <ripdisk> losha: so, this is the end of the line eh?
[04:34] <chai_> Entelin, not to mention messy
[04:34] <soreau> Luke_: What makes you think it is a graphics problem?
[04:35] <Luke_> hang on ill be right back
[04:35] <Entelin> chai_, yeah and they may still not work without a chroot
[04:35] <cparman> MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?"
[04:35] <Losha> ripdisk: that depends on the results. Also, we haven't tried shutting down the guest OS yet...
[04:35] <ripdisk> but it's my print server :(
[04:35] <dsnyders> Some_Person, It looks like you need to use some windows tool to convert the files to mpegs first.
[04:35] <m_anish> CaptainMorgan: I guess if you are working on a laptop, right clicking the power icon in the top-right corner of your screen and selecting power-history will give you the reqd info (as far as power consumption is concerned)
[04:35] <ripdisk> cuz there are no linux lexmark drivers
[04:36] <ripdisk> but yeah i'll shut it down.
[04:36] <Losha> ripdisk: that's a different problem. For now, we're debugging...
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> thanks m_anish - saw that in a search... not using a laptop
[04:36]  * ripdisk acpi shutdown
[04:36] <ripdisk> :
[04:36] <ripdisk> (
[04:36] <cparman> MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?", I guess you can't answer that question. The answer to your original question is "no"
[04:38] <hamish_> hey there people :) Can someone help me with transmission bit torrent client?
[04:38] <Clone29> where is where is sagaci?
[04:38] <Clone29> hehe
[04:38] <semitones> how can I make aptitude ignore a dependency
[04:38] <Clone29> i need help
[04:38] <soreau> hamish_: Not if you don't ask your question
[04:38] <dsnyders> hamish, what's going on with it?
[04:38] <ripdisk> ok losha
[04:38] <ripdisk> i took it offline....
[04:38] <ripdisk> let's try now
[04:38] <Clone29> where is sagaci?
[04:38] <Clone29> i need help
[04:38] <Clone29> hehehee
[04:38] <hamish_> soreau, I need to schedule pausing... but I'm not sure how?
[04:39] <hamish_> I have it installed on a headless server.
[04:39] <hexmare> * yawns *
[04:39] <meowbuntu> hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion. is it easy i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to repartition or format
[04:39] <ripdisk> losha: nothing
[04:39] <cparman> MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?", I guess you can't answer that question. The answer to your original question is "no"
[04:39] <ripdisk> i just don't get it
[04:39] <hamish_> and need to schedule it to pause during on peak hours.
[04:39] <Guest83111> what is tha yawns server??
[04:39] <soreau> hamish_: I'm not sure if there is a way to do that, though there may be, it should be in the settings somewhere. (If it's not, I suspect it does not have this capability)
[04:39] <Losha> ripdisk: you mean no change? can't telnet to port .68:5900 but can telnet to localhost:5900 ?
[04:40] <dsnyders> hamish, I don't think you can schedule such things with transmission.
[04:40] <ripdisk> yeah losha i tried it again
[04:40] <koshari> hamish you will need something like ktorrent to schedule
[04:40] <bazhang> hamish_, there is a small turtle icon at the bottom of transmission window
[04:41] <Losha> ripdisk: how does the output of arp -a look?
[04:41] <hamish_> soreau, the settings does not appear to have it no, perhaps there is a command I can run that will pause/unpause all torrents. I thought if there is I could use crontabs?
[04:41] <dsnyders> hamish_, you could set up some chron jobs to start and stop it.
[04:41] <chai_> Entelin, bleh, tried "fakechroot dpkg -i package.deb /new/prefix/dir" ... you still need root privileges to use dpkg -i
[04:41] <saltonaslug> hey everyone...
[04:41] <hamish_> bazhang, I've tried that, but setting speeds to 0 tends to cause erratic speeds and not much else...
[04:41] <bazhang> hamish_, preferences speed tab can set the schedule
[04:41] <Clone29> sagaci is not found in here.......peace
[04:41] <saltonaslug> yes.
[04:42] <saltonaslug> anyone wanna talk?
[04:42] <Clone29> okay
[04:42] <bazhang> saltonaslug, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic  Ubuntu support here
[04:42] <Luke_> im back where should i post the photos
[04:42] <hamish_> bazhang I've found the scheduler, but it won't pause it, only throttle the speeds :(
[04:42] <soreau> hamish_: If there is a command that could accomplish such a task, you could certainly have cron run it for you. However, it is not likely some command will make a program have a feature it does not provide
[04:42] <Entelin> chai_, whats worse is that the libfakechroot.so i think needs to be installed ahead of time
[04:42] <lostin> When running this "daniel@my-pos:~$ gpg -d /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg"  I get this  "gpg: decrypt_message failed: unexpected data"  This file has not been modified in anyway.  Any ideas?
[04:43] <hamish_> soreau, your reasoning is sound. Can you recommend a torrent client that has a webui and scheduling?
[04:43] <saltonaslug> ....................................................................................................................
[04:43] <chai_> Entelin, bummer.. what are you trying to do this for anyways?
[04:43] <semitones> how can I keep aptitude from replacing network manager with wicd when I apt-get lubuntu desktop?
[04:43] <bazhang> saltonaslug, please dont do that
[04:43] <hamish_> deluge appears to just crash. I have 8.04 LTS.
[04:43] <saltonaslug> someone talk plese.
[04:43] <Entelin> ./fakechroot -l libfakechroot.so
[04:43] <Entelin> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakechroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[04:43] <saltonaslug> please*
[04:43] <koshari> hamish_ ktorrent has scheduling
[04:43] <Entelin> :(
[04:43] <saltonaslug> thats why i did it, sorry.
[04:43] <bazhang> saltonaslug, this is not a chat channel
[04:43] <soreau> hamish_: Actually, no I cannot as I do not know of one.
[04:43] <semitones> or at the very least, keep network manager in the cache so I can reinstall it right afterwards
[04:43] <dsnyders> saltonaslug, this is not a social chat
[04:43] <Losha> ripdisk: well, we've made a tiny bit of progress. We now know there's something funny going on at the server...
[04:43] <Entelin> chai_, I just want a build environment on this box
[04:43] <hamish_> koshari, and a webui?
[04:43] <koshari> hamish_ and a webUI
[04:43] <bazhang> saltonaslug, #ubuntu-offtopic is the chat channel
[04:44] <saltonaslug> too much writing at once though...
[04:44] <chai_> Entelin, on a box you have no privileges on? :P
[04:44] <saltonaslug> ok.
[04:44] <saltonaslug> it's all good...
[04:44] <Entelin> chai_, worst case I dont get one, and do the building on my own box and upload the resulting binarys
[04:44] <bazhang> saltonaslug, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <Losha> soreau: to answer your earlier question, you're on the edge of a bell curve looking inwards...
[04:44] <Entelin> chai_, correct
[04:44] <saltonaslug> ok ok ok ok ok.
[04:44] <hamish_> thankyou koshari, I will have a look!
[04:44] <soreau> Losha: Apparently
[04:44] <ripdisk> losha: i'll try giving you ssh.. somehow
[04:44] <jumpnmustang> Can the archive manager handle rar files that are in parts?
[04:44] <Blue1> where can I find an mpeg aac audio encoder?
[04:45] <Blue1> google comes up dry
[04:45] <chai_> jumpnmustang, yup
[04:45] <bazhang> jumpnmustang, sure, just right click the first one extract here
[04:45] <koshari> Blue1 you tried ffmpeg?
[04:45] <hamish_> soreau, thank you anyway! I will try koshari's suggestion, ktorrent.
[04:45] <Losha> ripdisk: yeah, too bad I can't vnc in....
[04:46] <c_nick> is chrome better than firefox
[04:46] <jumpnmustang> and it will do it automatically? what about the sister type *.7z?
[04:46] <c_nick> and how to get chrome on ubuntu 9.10 can is it there in the repos
[04:46] <ripdisk> losha: i fowarded the ports for ssh
[04:46] <ripdisk> still can't connect
[04:46] <ripdisk> maybe it's THIS computer
[04:46] <semitones> c_nick, yes it is
[04:47] <ripdisk> pm me so i can give you the info to try it yuorself
[04:47] <Luke_> where shoiuld i post the boot images at
[04:47] <c_nick> semitones: how does it make a difference to the user
[04:47] <Losha> ripdisk: Actually, I need a break, gimme 15, ok?
[04:47] <lostin> When running this "daniel@my-pos:~$ gpg -d /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg"  I get this  "gpg: decrypt_message failed: unexpected data"  This file has not been modified in anyway.  Any ideas?
[04:47] <semitones> c_nick, it's down to personal preference, really
[04:47] <hexmare> grrrrrr , X still always restarts into 800x600 , and refuses to start with another mode, yet will allow me to change modes to a higher res right after start
[04:48] <c_nick> ah ok
[04:48] <ripdisk> losha: ok no problem, i think i'm gonna take a tirp down to the medical shop..
[04:48] <semitones> !info google-chrome | c_nick
[04:48] <c_nick> semitones: how to get chrome on ubuntu
[04:48] <ubott2> c_nick: Package google-chrome does not exist in karmic
[04:48] <semitones> c_nick, it's faster for a lot of people
[04:48] <semitones> hmm
[04:48] <semitones> c_nick, just a sec
[04:48] <dsnyders> hexmare, have a look at your xorg.conf file.
[04:48] <Luke_> how do i run a radeon graphics card under Ubuntu?
[04:48] <chai_> please, this sound issue has me pulling my hair. can anyone explain how this is possible: http://pastebin.com/m2fd8ad33
[04:49] <hexmare> dsnyders > all over my xorg.conf , have set modeline up . changed the metamodes option
[04:49] <dsnyders> Luke_, http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/
[04:49] <jumpnmustang> Looks like the 7z is not supported, thanks so far guys. anyone know what handles that 7z file type? seem windows born.
[04:49] <semitones> c_nick, you can install it by going to www.google.com/chrome and click download
[04:50] <chai_> jumpnmustang, install 7zip
[04:50] <meowbuntu_> hi is there an app i can use to check and fix bad sectors on hdd
[04:50] <gsgleason> 7z is open source
[04:50] <hexmare> brb restarting gdm again.
[04:50] <jumpnmustang> awesome thanks.
[04:50] <semitones> c_nick, click "get google chrome (beta)"
[04:50] <redwolf> my bootloader is getting corrupted
[04:50] <redwolf> I've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times now
[04:50] <semitones> how can I get aptitude to ignore a dependency
[04:50] <gsgleason> for 7z: install package lzma
[04:51] <mOOey> or rar
[04:51] <semitones> I want to install everything that the lubuntu-desktop package depends on, except for wicd. Is there a way to do this?
[04:51] <hexmare> back
[04:51] <jumpnmustang> gsgleason: you know how much space that takes up?
[04:52] <c_nick> thanks semitones
[04:52] <gsgleason> 172kB
[04:52] <jumpnmustang> cool thanks.
[04:52] <semitones> c_nick, you're welcome :)
[04:52] <Losha> meowbuntu_: it's a bad sign actually. It's usually means your disk is about to fail..
[04:52] <bombel> when I use 'iwconfig' I get information about the link. How do I extract only the line where the word "Quality" is written? I tried this: 'iwconfig | grep Quality' , and it outputs the correct line, but I also get 3 other lines that do not contain the word "Quality"... Can someone clarify me how to use grep, if this is the solution for this issue?
[04:53] <dsnyders> hexmare, In the monitor section, do you have your preferred Modeline listed first?
[04:53] <kinja-sheep> semitones: install lubuntu-desktop metapackage then remove wicd afterward? It'll cry wolf about lubuntu-desktop metapackage but you can remove that afterward.
[04:54] <semitones> kinja-sheep, thanks, that is what I would do, except my network doesn't work using wicd, so I don't have internet to reinstall network manager
[04:54] <hexmare> dsnyder > on the last restart I got it to boot to 3840x1024 , so I am now a step in the right direction. now I just need to get it to go all the way to 5040x1050
[04:55] <dsnyders> hexmare, Man, I wish I had your graphics card/monitor.  I'm maxing out at 1280x1024
[04:55] <kinja-sheep> semitones: It is always nice to have additional machines or packages. You could download packages and keep them on the disk for temporary. I'm not 100% certain about dependencies.
[04:56] <hexmare> dsnyder >  Sli 2x8800gts, 3 22"ws monitors, matrox th2go
[04:56]  * hexmare brb restarting GDM again
[04:56] <semitones> kinja-sheep, ok, do you know how I would keep network-manager on disk temporarily?
[04:56] <evilbug> are there issues with ubuntu recognizing regular redbook cds?
[04:57] <Blue1> !aac encoder
[04:57] <kinja-sheep> semitones: Something like "sudo aptitude download <xxyPackaeg>
[04:57] <Blue1> !aac
[04:57] <ubott2> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <semitones> kinja-sheep, thanks, I'll try it
[04:57]  * hexmare back
[04:57] <gsgleason> bombel: iwconfig 2>/dev/null|grep Quality
[04:57] <MilitantPotato> semitones: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/net/
[04:58] <kinja-sheep> semitones: That'll get you debs in current path. Also.
[04:58] <kinja-sheep> !offline | semitones
[04:58] <ubott2> semitones: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD
[04:58] <semitones> great, thanks :)
[04:58] <MilitantPotato> semitones: go too synaptic, right click network-manager, go too Dependencies and make sure you get those too
[04:58] <gsgleason> chai: is that mod currently loaded?
[04:58] <gsgleason> chai: lsmod|grep snd_hda_intel
[04:59] <MilitantPotato> semitones: that way you have everything that the app needs for later
[04:59] <kinja-sheep> semitones: http://apt.alturl.com/ seems promising.
[04:59] <hexmare> you know that you have been futzin with your xorg.con and Xorg.0.log too many times when you write a shel script to open them automatically for you at start
[04:59] <MilitantPotato> kinja-sheep: already linked semi (http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/net/)
[04:59] <dsnyders> hexmare, in the screen section of xorg.conf there is a line that reads option "metamodes".  I think you need to put the desired mode first on that line.
[05:00] <semitones> alright, thanks a lot :)
[05:00] <dsnyders> hexmare, A script... Yep, you've been futzing too much.
[05:00] <hexmare> LOL
[05:00] <MilitantPotato> semitones: i noticed that webpage lists and links too dependencies, should make it easier
[05:01] <MilitantPotato> there's about 20 though X(
[05:01] <ankush> hello everyone
[05:01] <hexmare> well this way as soon as I get into gnome , it pops both files into gedit so I can see them right away ;)
[05:01] <cparman> ankush: Hello Dude-de
[05:01] <[Adam|Linux]> What is a good text editor with highlighting (for PHP and all that) with FTP built in? Hoping for something like notepad++ on windows
[05:01]  * hexmare brb gdm restart again
[05:02] <gsgleason> ftp built into a text editor?  weird.  I use vim
[05:02] <cparman> [Adam|Linux]: Vim
[05:02] <seanbrystone> Emacs!
[05:02] <carpediem> VIM is nothing like Notepad++
[05:02] <carpediem> neither is emacs
[05:02] <carpediem> gedit is probably the closest
[05:02] <[Adam|Linux]> I just want the text highlighting and FTP basically
[05:03] <dsnyders> seanbrystone, I KNEW somebody was going to say that! :)
[05:03] <seanbrystone> :D
[05:03] <Madpilot> [Adam|Linux], gedit will connect to remote drives, ie FTP/etc
[05:03] <hexmare> dsnyder , now I just need to add to the script a line to reattach my irssi screen session
[05:03] <ankush> i am using ubuntu 9.04. i have a partition in ext3 format. If i reinstall ubuntu , will it recognise the partittion?
[05:03] <[Adam|Linux]> thanks
[05:03] <carpediem> Adam, gedit, I would also try Bluefish
[05:03] <chris_> when i wake my laptop from sleep mode, if i have a cd in the tray, it automatically launches a file browser and shows me the cd.
[05:04] <Losha> ankush: yes, all versions recognize ext3. It's ext4 that's a problem....
[05:04] <klappi> [Adam|Linux]: you can mount the remote dirs and use any editor, gnome has a gui calles places for this
[05:04] <FoolishOwl> I'm trying to figure out how to use ssh to connect to a machine that can only be contacted from an intermediate machine. In the past, I'd ssh into the intermediate, then ssh from the intermediate to the machine I wanted.
[05:05] <FoolishOwl> I'd like to simplify that.
[05:05] <MilitantPotato> Does anyone use an EEEPC with karmic and figured out a way to control fan speed?
[05:05] <evilbug> Blue1: thanks for the links, i did look at them. the issue i'm having is that i have restricted extras and i can play dvds just fine but for some reason it won't read audio cds. i did try the aac fix.
[05:05] <Losha> ripdisk: still there?
[05:06] <Blue1> evilbug: i am trying to use vlc to convert an m4v (ipod file) to mp4 =-- but it complains I don't have an aac encoder although I have gstreamer and faac installed
[05:06] <dsnyders> FoolishOwl, I'm in the same boat.  I think the solution is an iptables port redirection of some sort.
[05:07] <ankush_> Losha: even on formating the parition in which ubuntu is intalled? will it do? (i jst want to reassure..sory to ask again)
[05:07] <FoolishOwl> dsnyders, I *think* there's a simpler way to do it with ssh, but I'm not sure. I don't have root access to the intermediate machine, anyway.
[05:08] <Losha> ankush: I'm not sure exactly what you're worried aboutasking. Can you rephrase it?
[05:09] <Losha> FoolishOwl: hard to get it much simpler than a couple of logins. An iptables solution isn't exactly what I'd call "simpler"...
[05:10] <dsnyders> FoolishOwl, there is a thing called a reverse ssh.  I think what you do is point the input port at one  machine and the output port at the other.
[05:10] <FoolishOwl> dsnyders, that sounds more like it.
[05:10] <dsnyders> FoolishOwl, I've never gotten it to work, though.
[05:12] <axisys> how do I run a bash script as another user when that user does not have a shell
[05:12] <ankush_> Losha: ive ubuntu 9.04 in one partition , 2nd partition is ext3. I have to reinstall ubuntu .After doing it will the ext3 partirion still l be there? i mean will the data be preserved?
[05:12] <youknoweddavis>  i use ndiswrapper to handle my pcmcia network card. sometimes when connecting to my home network, im just asked my wep key but never connects
[05:12] <dsnyders> axisys, I think you use the su command.
[05:13] <dsnyders> axisys, su = switch user.
[05:13] <`mOOse`> um Super User
[05:13] <`mOOse`> or Root
[05:14] <Losha> ankush_: if you choose 'manual partition' during install, and specify that the first partition is for /, and that the 2nd partition is *not* to be touched, it should be fine. But for complete safety, you should first make a backup of the ext3 partition if you can...
[05:15] <meowbuntu> hi all i am wanting to know if i can change my os filesystem back from ext4 to ext3 without formatting
[05:15] <ankush_> Losha: Thank you.. :)
[05:16] <Losha> meowbuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040029. Summary: apparently it's possible, but I wouldn't trust it with any valuable data
[05:16] <meowbuntu> Losha, y is that
[05:17] <meowbuntu> i'm just sick of installing from scratch its annoying
[05:17] <Sylvester_Ink> what's the off topic channel?
[05:18] <Schmittydoesit> Anyone throw ubuntu on an HP TouchSmart 300?
[05:18] <axisys> dsnyders: that wont do it .. user do not have a shell
[05:18] <Losha> meowbuntu: because it's not a 'supported' operation, it's just something that someone did that seems to have worked (once, for them), and it's hella complicated, and a million things could go wrong and take your data with it...
[05:18] <axisys> `mOOse`: i like to run it as a user not as root ..
[05:19] <Sylvester_Ink> Actually, I have a question about software licenses.  I know this is the incorrect channel for it.  Where should I go?
[05:19] <dsnyders> axisys, try su -l user /bin/bash
[05:19] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic Sylvester_Ink
[05:19] <Losha> meowbuntu: besides, if you're seeing lots of disk sector problems, you have bigger problems, because your disk may be about to fail...
[05:20] <obscurant1st> somebody here knows how to make a usb bootable from a bootable iso image
[05:20] <obscurant1st> i tried dd ing it
[05:20] <meowbuntu> ok point Losha is it possable to update teh kernel of gos which uses hardy i think
[05:20] <obscurant1st> but its not booting into it showing "missing operating system"
[05:20] <Sylvester_Ink> thanks, bazhang
[05:21] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, have you messaround with the config files
[05:21] <Losha> meowbuntu: sorry, no idea. Isn't there a gos support channel?
[05:21] <obscurant1st> but when i checked in disk utility it is showing that the usb disk is bootable.
[05:21] <meowbuntu> Losha, yea thats not in use well noone ever uses it even the ppl logged in dont
[05:21] <dsnyders> axisys, there's also the -s option.  man su for details.
[05:21] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, actually my system is bootable, when i try to bott from the usb only it is showing missing operating system
[05:21] <Losha> obscurant1st: the one thing I know doesn't work is just dd'ing an iso to a usb drive, sorry...
[05:21] <obscurant1st> other than it is working fine
[05:22] <obscurant1st> Losha, oh !
[05:22] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, how did you install to the usb
[05:22] <dsnyders> obscurant1st, is this a flash drive?
[05:22] <obscurant1st> yes dsnyders it is a flash drive
[05:22] <meowbuntu> ^ and
[05:22] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, i did nt install anything
[05:22] <obscurant1st> i just dd is
[05:22] <Losha> obscurant1st: you've seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick presumably?
[05:22] <obscurant1st> dd it*
[05:23] <meowbuntu> then if you have no os on the flashdrive then y are you trying to boot from it
[05:23] <meowbuntu> ^ obscurant1st
[05:23] <obscurant1st> i am in ubuntu Losha , i need to install backtrack,
[05:23] <obscurant1st> thats why i am trying this.
[05:23] <dsnyders> obscurant1st, There are some great instructions at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[05:23] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, start again. what are you trying to do
[05:24] <seanbrystone> backtrack is pretty nice, i got it running in vmware player
[05:24] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, I am trying to make a bootable usb from a bootable iso image
[05:24] <dsnyders> obscurant1st, you can set up multiple ISOs on your drive and boot from any of them.
[05:24] <meowbuntu> dsnyders, there is an application built into ubuntu for doing that
[05:24] <obscurant1st> dsnyders, i can try that. :D
[05:25] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, hold on
[05:25] <obscurant1st> k
[05:25] <semitones> does update-manager run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade to upgrade
[05:26] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, 1. go to system>administration>usb startup disk creator. or 2. install unetbootin and use that.
[05:26] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, ok, i will try that.
[05:26] <obscurant1st> :D
[05:26] <obscurant1st> thx
[05:26] <meowbuntu> np
[05:26] <Cann0n> how do I compile a kernel?
[05:26] <Roasted_> Question - My menu options are a bit small on this theme I'm running. Is there a way I can control how thick they are? What I'm talking about is if I go to system - preferences, each option there is pretty darn thin. I'm wondering if I can make those controls a bit larger, resulting in everything in the menu being several pixels higher in size.
[05:26] <dsnyders> meowbuntu, I just came across that earlier today.  I was wondering what it did.
[05:27] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, you will only have max 4gig for storage on an fat32 filesys but thats ok for small usb devices
[05:27] <obscurant1st> yeah mine is only 2GB
[05:28] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, start with the ubuntu built in one its simpler and easier
[05:28] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, yep
[05:28] <meowbuntu> once you have got the hang of that try unetbootin
[05:28] <ballen> Why aren't things like Apache in the Ubuntu Software center?
[05:28] <bimberi> !kernelcompile | Cann0n
[05:29] <bimberi> Guest31952: because it's not a GUI app
[05:29] <Guest31952> ohhhhhhhh
[05:29] <Guest31952> makes sense
[05:29] <Guest31952> thanks
[05:29] <bimberi> np
[05:29] <Cann0n> I followed that and jsut crashed my computer and had to reinstall
[05:29] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, actually using that i cnnot select the iso file
[05:30] <meowbuntu> yes you can
[05:30] <obscurant1st> i think i will have to run it as rrot
[05:30] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, i mean it is not letting me to
[05:30] <meowbuntu> strange
[05:30] <obscurant1st> as i select and click on ok, nothing is shown at the place where it is suupposed to show up
[05:30] <meowbuntu> you need to have your usb plugged in first
[05:31] <obscurant1st> yep its already plugged it
[05:31] <obscurant1st> in*
[05:31] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, click on other select the iso file and it should come up.
[05:32] <meowbuntu> doing it as root is ok
[05:32] <obscurant1st> ok
[05:32] <meowbuntu> should not need to
[05:32] <obscurant1st> 1 sec, ithink my usb is not gettin detected now.
[05:32] <obscurant1st> :(
[05:32] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, have fun playing search on google adn come back if you want to
[05:33] <obscurant1st> i am formatting it in windows
[05:33] <obscurant1st> :d
[05:33] <Cann0n> how do i compile source?
[05:33] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, make sure its not mounted unplug then replug
[05:33] <meowbuntu> !source
[05:33] <DaltonStone> I NEED HELP
[05:33] <obscurant1st> now its working
[05:33] <obscurant1st> let me try with that startup disk creator
[05:34] <meowbuntu> !ask | DaltonStone
[05:34] <Cann0n> why not just tell people to use google.com?
[05:34] <DaltonStone> i just got my ubuntu cd and it wont install
[05:34] <DaltonStone> it says i dont have a root file
[05:34] <jayveee> you mean root filesystem?
[05:35] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, tryal and error. its just the same as the live cd. but on a usb.
[05:35] <DaltonStone> yes when i try to make a partion
[05:35] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, i shoud unmount it first or what?
[05:35] <Cann0n> !source
[05:35] <meowbuntu> !google | Cann0n
[05:35] <harleypig> -!- No results found
[05:35] <jayveee> DaltonStone: you must edit one of the partitions and tell it the mount point is /
[05:36] <Cann0n> so, if I have a real question, is there anyone here that could answer it without using a bot?
[05:36] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, another thing is, when i open the application, the usb disk gets automounted
[05:36] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, unmount then replug in the usb and it will auto mount it
[05:36] <DaltonStone> well i had windows 7 on the hard drive and i want to install ubuntu
[05:37] <Cann0n> How do I change the registers for my MMC reader?
[05:37] <DaltonStone> and it gives me a choose to side by side or take up the hole harddrive
[05:37] <jayveee> DaltonStone: have you created a Linux partition yet?
[05:37] <meowbuntu> yes. obscurant1st dont get distracted just playaround by your self you will learn that way
[05:37] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, ok. :D
[05:37] <DaltonStone> no im kinda new in this started 2 months ago
[05:37] <jayveee> DaltonStone: yeah, I'd recommend the side-by-side option if you want to keep Windows 7
[05:37] <DaltonStone> no i hate it
[05:37] <jayveee> oh that's good — format the whole drive then :)
[05:37] <obscurant1st> DaltonStone, wait
[05:38] <DaltonStone> hoe
[05:38] <DaltonStone> how
[05:38] <obscurant1st> if you have data, just install it side by side remove the boot options for that
[05:38] <meowbuntu> DaltonStone, i'll give you $50 for your origional copy of win7 if you dont want it
[05:38] <DaltonStone> it was a beta i dont thank you want it
[05:38] <tucemiux> anyone knows where I can download nvu from?
[05:39] <meowbuntu> na i got the betta and that is going to run out in a couple of months
[05:39] <DaltonStone> in ten days
[05:39] <obscurant1st> DaltonStone, after the ubuntu installation just delete the partition
[05:39] <meowbuntu> tucemiux, google uvu downloads
[05:39] <Cann0n> so, I need to change the address of my MMC memory register. IT's in hex, I know that, but how do i edit it?
[05:39] <DaltonStone> but it wont let me
[05:39] <Cann0n> Is it in hal?
[05:39] <DaltonStone> i need step by step by phone
[05:40] <ankush_> jayveee:i have ubuntu 9.10 in one partition and ubutu 9.04 in other. whenevr i try to format ubuntu 9.04 the system doesnt boot? can u help?
[05:40] <Cann0n> DaltonStone: I'll call you.
[05:40] <`mOOse`> oh dear
[05:40] <ripdisk> losha: still here
[05:40] <ankush_> jayveee: sorry ..that was ubuntu 9.10 that i wish to partition
[05:41] <HeMan> Hi! I've installed Lucid (yes I know it isn't released yet), should I report bugs I find there?
[05:41] <Losha> ripdisk: I'm beat. Can we call it a night & try again tomorrow?
[05:41] <DaltonStone> k can i get your number
[05:41] <meowbuntu> tucemiux, do you want uvu application or addon
[05:41] <wolter> can dpkg tell me which application installed x file>
[05:41] <wolter> ?
[05:42] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, sorry i meant to say nvu
[05:42] <Losha> wolter: check out dpkg -S in man dpkg
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> HeMan, of course - that's what the beta is for ;)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[05:42] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, nvu application
[05:42] <jayveee> ankush_: ouch
[05:42] <jayveee> ankush_: unfortunately I'm about to go offline, so can't help you
[05:42] <Cann0n> so no one knows how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader?
[05:42] <DaltonStone> well does ubuntu have a phone number
[05:42] <jayveee> somebody else help ankush_ ?
[05:42] <Cann0n> isn't there a bot command for it?
[05:42] <ankush_> jayveee: ok..thankx anyway
[05:43] <tucemiux> HeMan, please do, you can use launchpad to do that, you can also use #ubuntu+1 to discuss the bugs you find on lucid
[05:43] <HeMan> ZykoticK9: ok, I wasn't sure since it's only alpha yet
[05:43] <meowbuntu> !nvu
[05:43] <Cann0n> !mmc
[05:43] <meowbuntu> ^ tucemiux
[05:43] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[05:44] <jacquesdupontd> this page has to be modified
[05:44] <HeMan> tucemiux: I usually try to do bugreporting (and sometimes triageing) on bugs I find
[05:44] <meowbuntu> tucemiux, did you see that
[05:44] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, thanks, I hate using PPA's, I'd rather just install the deb package
[05:44] <jacquesdupontd> it makes now 2 days i'm trying juste to install this release (and i'm not a newbie) with an nvidia card, it's not working
[05:44] <jacquesdupontd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/MobileKarmicMoblinRemix?action=show
[05:44] <wolter> thanks Losha
[05:44] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, yes I did find it
[05:44] <meowbuntu> great
[05:44] <Cann0n> so no one knows how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader?
[05:44] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, can you check seomthing on your system for me, in that startup creator the options which comes under the device to use, i mane that slider and radio button, are they greyed out or active?
[05:44] <jacquesdupontd> the guys who made this release must have had an ati and forgot that some people may have some nvidia
[05:45] <meowbuntu> hold on obscurant1st
[05:45] <jacquesdupontd> i went crazy i nearly tried everything
[05:45] <obscurant1st> k
[05:45] <jacquesdupontd> i know all files by heart , took files even from the real moblin version (fed)
[05:45] <tucemiux> HeMan, sometimes you can get a lot more help on launchpad with bugs than in the support channel, if you continually test on your machine I suspect the official release will work without issues out of the box on the machine you tested
[05:47] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, so basically nvu is ded and kompozer is the living continuation of the application?
[05:47] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, that is for saving sessions to on the usb. incase you want to create a save file. if you just want ti to be a live sustem for installing to say a netbook tehn select the discarded on shutdown. adn anything you do woll be lost.
[05:47] <meowbuntu> tucemiux, so it seems i have ndever used it
[05:48] <DaltonStone> so can anyone help me
[05:48] <obscurant1st> but the thing is in my case it is greyed out, its not active.
[05:48] <obscurant1st> i think there is some problem
[05:48] <meowbuntu> tucemiux, google and find out more info
[05:48] <Cann0n> Can I get help?
[05:48] <josh_> anyone have any suggestions on a keylogger?
[05:48] <tucemiux> !ask| DaltonStone
[05:48] <meowbuntu> !ask | DaltonStone
[05:48] <tucemiux> meowbuntu, thanks, I already installed it
[05:48] <the_ajunk> lll
[05:49] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, but the thing is in my case it is greyed out, its not active.
[05:49] <tucemiux> Cann0n, ask your question, all in one line, if anyone knows the answer they will surely reply
[05:49] <the_ajunk> how are you ?
[05:49] <tucemiux> !ot | the_ajunk
[05:49] <Cann0n> I need no know how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader?
[05:49] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, have you selected your iso image and device to install to
[05:49] <DaltonStone> i cant install ubuntu
[05:49] <the_ajunk> yes
[05:49] <meowbuntu> ^ then it will work
[05:49] <Cann0n> the_ajunk: I'm fine. You?
[05:50] <meowbuntu> DaltonStone, you need an iso
[05:50] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, no its not getting selected, after selectin it and clickin on ok, doesnot change anything, the whole window remains the same.
[05:50] <DaltonStone> i just got the ubuntu cd though
[05:51] <josh_> i need a decent easily accesible keylogger for ubuntu any ideas?
[05:51] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, maybe i should try the other application u mentioned
[05:51] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, mind teeling it again pls?
[05:51] <obscurant1st> telling*
[05:51] <tucemiux> Cann0n, you want to change the "memory address" of a card reader?  are you an advanced user?
[05:51] <ripdisk> josh: try using screen or something
[05:51] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, have you checked the iso immage. you need to do a checksum on it. adn see if its the same as the one from the website. if not then the iso is currupted
[05:51] <ripdisk> i think it will log too..
[05:51] <meowbuntu> !checksum
[05:51] <DaltonStone> i just got the ubuntu cd though
[05:51] <mneptok> obscurant1st: did you format the USB stick as FAT32?
[05:51] <josh_> ripdisk...its just called screen?
[05:52] <obscurant1st> yep its fat32
[05:52] <obscurant1st> let me check the md5
[05:52] <obscurant1st> i min
[05:52] <c_nick> while installing Google Chrome from the Archives i get this error description at the very end "installArchives() failed"
[05:52] <Cann0n> tucemiux: I'm trying to get my onboard MMC card reader working. It's calling the wrong memory address... I doubt anyone here can help me because I've already tried !mmc and the retarded bot didn't know what I was talking about.
[05:52] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, no the iso immage of ubuntu
[05:52] <Cann0n> Since 95% of this channel's help comes from the bot, I cuess I'm screwed.
[05:53] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, iso img of ubuntu?
[05:53] <meowbuntu> Cann0n, thats not true. the bot is accessed by users and containes basic info that is commonly asked in the channel
[05:53] <obscurant1st> i dont need USB bot for iso image of ubuntu
[05:53] <obscurant1st> i need it for iso imgae of backtrack
[05:53] <chu_> Hey guys, I have an issue with Evolution. I think my net died while trying to send an email and now whenever I open Evolution or try to receive email, it sends the same email out. This is pretty tedious for the receiver of the email. There's an option to "Cancel the current mail operation" though it doesn't do anything.
[05:53] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, are you new to ubuntu and linux
[05:53] <ripdisk> josh: i'm sorry, i probably shouldn't have said anything.
[05:54] <newclimb> anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005?
[05:54] <obscurant1st> no!! :O why, am i behaving like one?
[05:54] <ripdisk> josh: i'm not a helper here, but i know 'screen'' lets you look what another user is typing in console..;
[05:54] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, the iso check sum is the same
[05:54] <meowbuntu> ok start again
[05:54] <Cann0n> meowbuntu: might as well tell people to use google, since it's actually quicker to get more detailed help by googling the buntu forums. however, I haven't found anyone with my issue an the forums. most the threads are about compiz fusion
[05:54] <tucemiux> Cann0n, so your question is you want to configure your MMC card reader to work, that is why no one gave a reply, changing the memory address is not an easy thing to do since that is done by the operating system, what you really want to do is have your MMC Card Reader working with ubuntu which I dont believe is possible since it looks like that piece of hardware is not supported, you can probably search the forum or open a bug report in
[05:54] <tucemiux> launchpad and request for a driver to be written
[05:55] <`mOOse`> Cann0n the question you are asking is highly unusual and only the app developer would really be able to help you - Sorry we dissapoint you
[05:55] <emma> how do I set the Xkb Options in Ubuntu?
[05:55] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, shut down the application start again i never had this much truble.
[05:55] <emma> I want to set my Compose key
[05:55] <josh_> lol ok...so it will let me come to my computer and see what has been typed through out the day?
[05:55] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, 1 thing is the usb still fat32
[05:55] <obscurant1st> i need to make a bootable usb of backtrack from the iso image,
[05:55] <`mOOse`> and Cann0n - personally the tone you're taking isn't helping
[05:55] <Cann0n> `mOOse`: but this channel has HOW many users? It's the biggest support chan on freenode.
[05:55] <obscurant1st> oh meowbuntu you didnt ask me to start over the problem.. ooops.. :D
[05:56] <ripdisk> josh: no. but you can set it up for logging. let me look for something
[05:56] <obscurant1st> i tried it several times.. :(
[05:56] <`mOOse`> Cann0n and your point is? If there's someone in here who can help you they will - your continuously badgering the channel will get you nowhere
[05:56] <pedestrianentran> Id like to add my own tags to a jpgs from a script and then import the images into fspot and be able to use the tags ive added.... Any suggestions?
[05:56] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, pls tell me the other application you mentioned earlier for this.
[05:56] <josh_> ripdisk ok thanks
[05:56] <newclimb> anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005?
[05:57] <`mOOse`> Cann0n - you're not grasping the level of complexity of your task
[05:57] <emma> anyone know which menu lets you set Xkb settings in Ubuntu? I see nothing like that.
[05:57] <ripdisk> josh: there's not really too many ''legal'' reasons for a keylogger..
[05:57] <meowbuntu>  unetbootin. you can try that but the ubuntu one works fine. maby its the iso file you have not being reckognised. ???
[05:57] <mneptok> !google > Cann0n
[05:57] <harleypig> -!- No results found
[05:57] <ripdisk> josh: if you're worried about what other people are doing on your computer, set up user accounts for them
[05:57] <emma> Id like to do the Ubuntu equivalent of what's on this page --- http://www.hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html
[05:57] <pedestrianentran> fspot has an option of saving tags to metadata of jpgs but i cant see them when I look at the images using exiv2
[05:57] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, also maby it only works with ubuntu baised os.
[05:57] <Cann0n> I guess telling people to use google is about as best help I will get.
[05:58] <Cann0n> I obviously came to the wrong place...
[05:58] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, oh, it may be like that.. :(
[05:58] <josh_> ripdisk: though there are many "illegal" type things i could do with a logger and might want to do this is not the situation at all
[05:58] <Cann0n> sigh...
[05:58] <ripdisk> oh
[05:58] <ripdisk> well i don't think there's a keylogger
[05:58] <ripdisk> but i know linux lets you look at what programs a user has used
[05:58] <tucemiux> Cann0n, is the MMD card reader built in on a laptop?
[05:58] <ripdisk> used*
[05:58] <josh_> ripdisk" just more trying to weed through the bullshit of a relationship im in lol
[05:59] <Cann0n> tucemiux: MMC, and yes
[05:59] <emma> josh_: definitely offtopic for #ubuntu :)
[05:59] <sysdoc> !checksum
[05:59] <josh_> emma; i know sorry
[05:59] <`mOOse`> there are a few legitimate uses for a keylogger - parents use them all the time
[05:59] <sysdoc> !check md5
[06:00] <`mOOse`> they install as rootkits ;-)
[06:00] <abhi_nav> what changes to made to make ubuntu laptop friendly??
[06:00] <tucemiux> Cann0n, that is a known bug, maybe this thread will help you, the easiest solution is to just purchase a cheap USB card reader, they run around $10, you can look at this thread if you really want your card reader to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285039
[06:00] <Cann0n> I've been to that thread. Has nothing to do with my issue.
[06:01] <chu_> I guess you should create a bug report than.
[06:01] <chu_> then*
[06:01] <Cann0n> All I have to do is change the hex address of the device.
[06:01] <meowbuntu> obscurant1st, are you having luck installing unetbootin
[06:02] <Cann0n> chu_: bug reports don't solve issues. I've been on bugzilla for years.
[06:02] <tucemiux> Cann0n, create a bug report
[06:02] <josh_> moose: where would i get a root kit? dumb question i know but finding a good linux logger is proving difficult
[06:02] <jacquesdupontd> can somone advice me to choose the best UI for a tablet computer having good performances ? (i want something user useable and with good effects, got nvidia chipset)
[06:02] <jacquesdupontd> That would be very cool
[06:02] <Cann0n> tucemiux: it's not a bug... I just have to change the address...
[06:02] <meowbuntu> !md5 obscurant1st
[06:02]  * Cann0n face palms.
[06:02] <tucemiux> Cann0n, have you used launchpad to file a bug report?
[06:03] <fixworx> Is there a software repository that enables me to install closed-source software (Google Earth, for example)?
[06:03] <jacquesdupontd> cause there's not so much release except Moblin wich is completly buggy
[06:03] <Cann0n> tucemiux: have you tried googling go-fucks-yourself?
[06:03] <meowbuntu> !md5 sysdoc
[06:03] <abhi_nav> fixword: u can install google earth by downloading setup file from their website
[06:03] <tucemiux> Cann0n, if it doesnt work out of the box, it's a bug
[06:03] <chu_> Nice, intelligent guy that Cann0n.
[06:03] <abhi_nav> fixworx: u can install google earth by downloading setup file from their website
[06:03] <meowbuntu> !md5 | sysdoc
[06:03] <`mOOse`> josh_ - I don't know :-)
[06:03] <gavin__> hmm. what window manager should i install to mess around with in virtualbox?
[06:04] <abhi_nav> fixworx: i have installed it
[06:04] <Shazam> anyone with strong linux & webcam experience?
[06:04] <josh_> moose: lol ok fair enough
[06:04] <fixworx> abhi_nav, i'll give it a shot, thanks :) just wondering if someone maintains a repository for something like all the software that exists for ubuntu
[06:05] <obscurant1st> meowbuntu, i am tryin it
[06:05] <obscurant1st> i mean the unetbooting thing
[06:05] <obscurant1st> :d
[06:05] <meowbuntu> good just have fun
[06:09] <josh_> ##security
[06:11] <LSD|Ninja> Which cpufreq governor do I want if I want it to step through all the available states instead of just flicking back and forth between extremes?
[06:11] <titan_ark> hey does anyone know hoe to use the rsync command?
[06:11] <LSD|Ninja> the man does
[06:11] <titan_ark> i am having some trouble using it
[06:12] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync titan_ark
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> LSD|Ninja, have you tried Gnome's "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" panel applet
[06:13] <Bublik> hello
[06:13] <Bublik> im new to ubuntu
[06:13] <Bublik> whats a good guide on starting up ?
[06:13] <LSD|Ninja> ZykoticK9: Yeah, that's how I know it's flicking between the two extremes
[06:13] <titan_ark> bazhang, i have read thro its man, the problem i am facing is that the destination path partition name has a space and i get an error that the destination path dpes not exist
[06:14] <shawnboy> Bublik: u could start with ubuntu pocket guide
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> titan_ark, try using a \ before the space
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> titan_ark, like\ this\ for\ example
[06:15] <mneptok> Bublik: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[06:15] <titan_ark> ZykoticK9, thanks shall try it
[06:15] <semitones> titan_ark, you can also use quotes around the path
[06:16] <semitones> but forward slashes work better
[06:16] <titan_ark> ZykoticK9, semitones thanks a ton! seems to work! shall check what all got copied now =)
[06:17] <semitones> Bublik, try this one :) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[06:18] <Bublik> thank ^_^
[06:18] <ArtyG> Is there a chance that doing cat /proc/cpuinfo could tell me the wrong frequency for a processor with scaling?
[06:18] <LSD|Ninja> ArtyG: it depends on what you mean by "wrong". It'll tell you the frequency of whatever state its in when you cat it
[06:18] <semitones> Bublik, you're welcome :)
[06:18] <titan_ark> cool! works like a charm!!!
[06:18] <ArtyG> I ran a benchmark, and it keeps telling me that it's 800MHz.
[06:19] <titan_ark> Now i need to find a way to schedule it using crontab!!!
[06:19] <titan_ark> Linux rox! :D
[06:20] <LSD|Ninja> ArtyG: What CPU is it? 800MHz is the lowest start on my Phenom II which is where it stays most of the time. That's what I'm asking about now actually. It takes a bit of a kick to get it to move out of 800MHz and it just jumos straight to 3GHz where under Windows it would flick between 2-3 other states depending on the load
[06:20] <ArtyG> Intel Atom N270.
[06:20] <ArtyG> Tops out at 1.6GHz
[06:21] <linkiduu> hiii
[06:21] <LSD|Ninja> ArtyG: Putting the frequency scaling monitor on your panel will let you know when it changes states
[06:21] <ArtyG> Not to be a communist, but I'm actually using Xubuntu, which seems not to have a scaling monitor.
[06:21] <ArtyG> Unless I just missed it.
[06:22] <LSD|Ninja> ArtyG: xfce possibly has something similar, but I wouldn't have the first clue what it is
[06:22] <semitones> you should be able to install gnome's scaling monitor in the toolbar if xfce doesn't have it
[06:24] <MilitantPotato> ArtyG: don't install the EEE apps in synaptic
[06:24] <MilitantPotato> ArtyG: they break a lot
[06:25] <ArtyG> Ahhh, there we go.
[06:25] <chu_> Does anyone know much about Evolution?
[06:25] <ArtyG> Found an Xfce frequency monitor.
[06:25] <ArtyG> Guess it is scaling, I just couldn't see it from catting /proc/cpuinfo
[06:26] <ArtyG> Boy, 9.10 is great. All my hardware works out of the box now. Woop woop.
[06:27]  * B|aSS is away: Yeah dude, Im Away!
[06:28] <indus> !info evolution | chu_
[06:28] <semitones> woop woop! dats da sound of da police
[06:28] <LSD|Ninja> ArtyG: cpuinfo only reports the frequency it's at when you cat it which will almost certainly be the lowest frequency state most of the time. If you catch it in a higher frequency state, then that's what you'll see. Now, if only they'd adjust it to report multicore/HT CPUs (1 entry per physical CPU with extra entries for core and thread count) properly.
[06:28] <linkiduu> If I install postfix, will I be able to send mails from my dynamic Ip adress ?
[06:28] <indus> why does it say is optional? its not optional
[06:29] <semitones> indus, optional means your system will still function if it's uninstalled
[06:29] <indus> semitones, ok thanks, makes sense now
[06:29] <indus> !info linux-image
[06:29] <Entelin> can I burn a 700meg iso onto a dvd and have it work?
[06:29] <bazhang> Entelin, sure
[06:29] <indus> !info mountall
[06:30] <Entelin> ok cool
[06:30] <indus> mmpff
[06:30] <bazhang> Entelin, or a usb flash key
[06:30] <indus> semitones, thanks, i see now
[06:30] <semitones> indus, sure thing, also see !packaging
[06:30] <indus> Entelin, what iso?
[06:30] <Entelin> debian install disk
[06:30] <indus> !packaging
[06:31] <Entelin> i'm out of regular cd's
[06:31] <indus> Entelin, of course, dvd's work too
[06:31] <Entelin> ok great
[06:31] <MilitantPotato> Entelin: Have a USB stick?
[06:31] <indus> Entelin, so want to boot debian?
[06:31] <chu_> Yep, indus I have Evolution installed. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with it, enough to answer some questions?
[06:31] <indus> !DEBIAN
[06:32] <semitones> msgthebot > indus
[06:32] <indus> chu_, well most will have basic configuration info here
[06:32] <semitones> er
[06:32] <indus> semitones, yes /msg ubottu <>
[06:32] <indus> i know
[06:32] <semitones> kk
[06:32] <chu_> Nah, it's configured - I've been using it for a good 6 months, but I've come up with an issue.
[06:32] <indus> chu_, like what issue thy face
[06:33] <semitones> indus, this channel already scrolls really fast -- investigating the bot too much makes it that much harder to read
[06:33] <indus> i always get the send mail part of evo wrong
[06:33] <chu_> I think my net died while trying to send an email and now whenever I open Evolution or try to receive email, it sends the same email out. This is pretty tedious for the receiver of the email. There's an option to "Cancel the current mail operation" though it doesn't do anything.
[06:34] <indus> chu_, ah yes i have faced this, but haveto search my brain, you mean, it doesnt really delete from send queue right?
[06:34] <chu_> Yep, exactly.
[06:35] <w3rd_> hey guys im trying to use my ipod touch with jaunty? anybody familiar with ifuse? for some reason im not able to mount the touch, i can see the pics but not any of the other stuff?
[06:36] <c_nick> Is there any twitter extension for Chrome ?
[06:36] <c_nick> i mean better than ChromeBird.. did not quite like it
[06:37] <indus> chu_,ok i need you to go through the steps you are trying to delete it ,so i can recollect
[06:37] <indus> chu_, one thing i remember though is expunge , from folders menu
[06:38] <indus> chu_, i mean, it clears the delete folder , did you delete the mail from the outbox?
[06:38] <chu_> indus, I haven't yet no.
[06:39] <magn3ts> How do I force firefox to revert to the version from the ubuntu repos instead of the version in the mozilla ppa I loaded?
[06:39] <indus> chu_, then it will keep sending but should clear once sent
[06:39] <chu_> indus, if I go to my sent box, it actually doesn't display any email I've sent for the past few months, unfortunately.
[06:39] <indus> chu_, mm i think i had a diff problem
[06:39] <indus> chu_, did you delete the .evo folder?
[06:39] <chu_> I haven't touched anything yet.
[06:39] <magn3ts> meh, never mind, I'll just force version for now
[06:40] <magn3ts> er, that wants to remove songbird, java plugin, etc so lets not do that
[06:40] <indus> chu_, can you open the .evolution folder and check under mail
[06:41] <indus> chu_, but its too many files nvm
[06:41] <chu_> Ok, I'm in mail - would I go into imap?
[06:41] <indus> chu_, no thats for receive i think
[06:41] <crunge> anyone else find that X11 no longer seems able to talk to the nvidia driver?
[06:42] <indus> chu_, go to local
[06:42] <indus> chu_, i am just guessing here
[06:42] <chu_> Now outbox?
[06:42] <indus> chu_, i just deleted the .evolution folder and restarted, but backed up all mail
[06:42] <indus> chu_, check outbox index
[06:43] <linkiduu> Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :(
[06:43] <chu_> Hey, if I emacs the Outbox file (in .evolution/local) there's the bastardly email!
[06:43] <RecycleCorn>  It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!  No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right.  They never will!  The same goes for New Orleans!  Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed.  What have the niggers in N
[06:43] <RecycleCorn> ew Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[06:43] <FloodBot1> RecycleCorn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <indus> chu_, heh
[06:43] <chu_> Wow, does that happen often?
[06:44] <indus> chu_, hmm yes sometimes
[06:44] <mneptok> chu_: once is too often
[06:44] <indus> chu_, so i guess deleting that should be reasonably safe
[06:44] <indus> chu_, try and see
[06:44] <chu_> If I just delete this Outbox file - which only contains this evil email, should all be good?
[06:45] <chu_> Yeah alright, thanks for the help indus
[06:45] <newclimb> anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005?
[06:45] <indus> chu_,do make sure it still doesnt show in outbox
[06:45] <joppan> Recylecorn:whois civlilised
[06:46] <w3rd_> anybody familiar with ipod touch and ubuntu?
[06:46] <w3rd_> or a good way to remote a ubuntu system?
[06:46] <linkiduu> Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :(
[06:46] <chu_> Whoops, I don't think Evolution like that
[06:46] <indus> chu_, why
[06:46] <chu_> Now I get an error
[06:47] <B|aSS> /j kkkkkkkkkk
[06:47] <B|aSS> /j #kkkkkkkkkk
[06:47] <chu_> Sweet, looks like he may have gone away
[06:47] <LSD|Ninja> w3rd_: iSSH has an X server and VNC client. It's a paid app though, but as near as I can tell, it's pretty much the best such app for iPhone/iPod touch
[06:48] <chu_> Bugger, nopr
[06:48] <chu_> nope*
[06:48] <indus> chu_, restart evo
[06:48] <geeksatlarge> Can anyone give me help with a Ubuntu problem?
[06:48] <phaer> !ask
[06:48] <_dumont> test
[06:49] <geeksatlarge> Cool.
[06:49] <chu_> Still get the error indus - something about "Cannot get message from folder"
[06:49] <chu_> At least it's not sending an email now though :p
[06:49] <indus> chu_, yes some cache thing , manually deleted message from folder outbox?
[06:50] <Shazam> I'd like to rename a bunch of files programmatically. they're all formatted garbage_text_real_filename, and I'd like just real_filename. what's the quick, scripty way to do this?
[06:50] <linkiduu> Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :(
[06:50] <chu_> I don't actually have an Outbox folder per say - I have something called Sent, but the last email in that was one I sent 8/12/2009 .... :/
[06:51] <geeksatlarge> I can't 'su root'.  I'm running Ubuntu in Sun VirtualBox.  During the install, I was not prompted to setup a root account.  Therefore when Ubuntu came up I didn't have a root password.  Now I can't access root through the shell.  Is there something I don't know about?
[06:51] <LSD|Ninja> linkiduu: your monitor may not be reporting the correct EDID info so the drivers have no idea what the native res is. Was it working properly with the generic ones before you installed the other ones?
[06:51] <Entelin> how can i tell if I am using the 32 or 64 bit release? i dont recall which I installed...  /proc/version doesnt specify it
[06:51] <Myrtti> !sudo
[06:51] <phaer> geeksatlarge: use sudo
[06:51] <Entelin> Linux version 2.6.32-020632-generic (root@zinc) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #020632 SMP Thu Dec 3 10:58:45 UTC 2009
[06:52] <Entelin> is that 32 bit?
[06:52] <linkiduu> LSD|Ninja: it works properly on WIndows
[06:52] <Shazam> I know a perl one-liner would work, but it seems like something I ought to be able to do with just the shell
[06:52] <phaer> Entelin: uname -m gives you the machine
[06:52] <geeksatlarge> Thanks, I'll try that.  Bye!
[06:52] <mrb427> is there a unix wildcard that specifies the end of the filename, ex) ls *.png should not include image.png.cropped
[06:53] <Entelin> ok great thanks
[06:53]  * bittin is away: d
[06:53] <LSD|Ninja> linkiduu: So do a lot of things. First thing you have to learn about Linux is hardware support is either good, or downright terrible, there's no middle ground. When you first booted the livecd to install Ubuntu, was it at the right resolution?
[06:53] <Shazam> mrb427: && ^*.chopped
[06:54] <indus> Entelin, uname -a
[06:54] <mrb427> Shazam: so ls *.png && ^*.chopped
[06:54]  * bittin is back (gone 00:00:06)
[06:54] <mrb427> Shazam: that will return only things ENDING in .png??
[06:54] <linkiduu> in liveboot cd , it was only 800*600..after I installed drivers..it came to 1024
[06:54] <Shazam> mrb427: if you want to list just the files that end in .png, then ls *.png will do that for you
[06:55] <tweiseman> why am i awake?
[06:55] <mrb427> Shazam: oh, sorry, i mispoke.  I need it to return only things ending in .png and not things like .cropped.png
[06:57] <friendishan> hello
[06:57] <friendishan> anyone know where is the pidgin directory? i want to look for history in it history of old chats
[06:58] <mrb427> Shazam: to be clear, ls *.png should return file.png and file2.png etc but not file.cropped.png
[06:58] <linkiduu> home/.purple
[06:58] <chu_> indus - looking through the Evolution FAQ and there is nothing, now unfortunately with a name like evolution google isn't very friendly (I would have thought with asking about email in evolution would be obvious to google, but apparently not), do you know where you got the information?
[06:58] <friendishan> !patience
[06:58] <friendishan> yay ubottu is  back
[06:58] <linkiduu> :D
[06:58] <indus> chu_, i just g uessed :)
[06:59] <indus> chu_, generally all data is saved locally in hidden dir
[06:59] <chu_> Yeah, the data's gone now, but it still thinks I want to send an email - for which there is no data! and I can't work out how to tell it not to.
[06:59] <Sa[i]nT> If I install the KDE from the repos, is it KDE4.4?
[07:00] <linkiduu> Ishan: you can see the pidigin logs in /home/USERNAME/.purple/logs
[07:01] <indus> Sa[i]nT, i think its 4.3,
[07:01] <indus> chu_, just restart your pc
[07:02] <indus> chu_, or clear cache , ther is an option somewher in menu
[07:05] <hsr> Will upgrade affect my bookmarks in Firefox????
[07:06] <Shazam> mrb427:  ls -l *.png | perl -lne 'print if $_ !~ /cropped/'
[07:06] <hsr> Hello room'
[07:06] <kinja-sheep> hsr: No it should not. Also, use XMark addon. It is awesome for sync-ing your bookmarks with a server (and to sync with other machines too).
[07:06] <Shazam> mrb427: not the most elegant way to do it, but it gets it done
[07:07] <Sa[i]nT> What do I type in the terminal to install kde
[07:08] <rothsdad> hi, is there a rss reader that works in console?
[07:08] <bazhang> Sa[i]nT, install the package kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <rww> Sa[i]nT: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <faultyground> Hey all.  Since the last round of updates went out, Firefox is no longer starting for me.  No error, just about 5 seconds of the busy cursor, then returns to idle.  Any thoughts?
[07:08] <rww> faultyground: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:08] <hsr> kinja-sheep: Thank you
[07:08] <faultyground> rww:  Sorry, 9.10
[07:09] <rww> faultyground: ah, okay. Not the problem I was thinking of, then :)
[07:09] <chu_> faultyground: try opening firefox in a terminal, should give you some diagnosis information
[07:09] <faultyground> chu_: will do, trying now
[07:10] <hsr> Hello again, how can i change paper size of any pdf?
[07:10] <faultyground> chu_:  "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1 and 1.9.1.*."
[07:10] <tottiq> like a zoom?
[07:10]  * rothsdad hey all, could anybody recommend a cli rss reader plz
[07:11] <chu_> faultyground: Don't know if there's a resolution (my net is too slow to load graphical sites at the moment for some reason), but this might have something: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360940
[07:11] <faultyground> chu_:  I'll read up on it and see if theres anything there, thanks =)
[07:12] <researcher1> how can I browse with IE6 in Ubuntu and enjoy the effect of Active X control enabled?
[07:12]  * faultyground KA-OPERA!
[07:12] <chu_> I'm trying to load it, but chances are it will load at least 10x faster on your end. Frustrating me.
[07:12] <linkiduu> you can install it through wine..but you can emulate ie6. by using a firefox addon called user agent changer
[07:14] <researcher1> linkiduu:i have  wine installed already. what do i do next?
[07:14] <linkiduu> if it asks for .net support ..install mono
[07:14] <linkiduu> then download ie6 setup
[07:14] <Shazam> how do you unload a module?
[07:15] <chu_> Shazam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360512
[07:16] <chu_> Possibly not, I'm trying to load the page, but it will take a long time so it's easier for you to read it. Sorry
[07:16] <herbero> does anyone here know how to check a new hd with smartctl or hdparm or smart montools? I plugged in a 2TB SATA but it is not coming up in /dev and it is not warm to the touch, nor is it listed in fdisk
[07:16] <herbero> I need to partition it though
[07:17] <indus> herbero, it shouldnt warm if not used at all
[07:18] <kinja-sheep> To get by this winter season, I use bunch of old HDDs instead of a radiator. =\
[07:18] <herbero> lol
[07:18] <chu_> indus, should killing x count as a reboot? I just don't want to reboot if possible.
[07:18] <herbero> indus: that is what I figured, but I thought maybe I just wasn't accessing/mounting it so it might not be as hot. In any case, I would still like to check it within my comp
[07:18] <faultyground> chu_: got it, reinstalled xulrunner via synaptic, problem solved, thanks for the link =)
[07:19] <kinja-sheep> herbero: Have you reboot?
[07:19] <ArQiLLiOnS> im in tha HOUSE!
[07:19] <blackrock> is there any good dvd maker on linux?
[07:19] <chu_> faultyground: Glad it worked out for you.
[07:19] <herbero> kinja-sheep, yes
[07:19] <blackrock> with menu maker
[07:19] <kinja-sheep> herbero: It is toggled on in the BIOS?
[07:19] <alabd> Hello ,  what are Gnu/Linux benefits , specifications that distinguish it from all other OS's ?
[07:20] <herbero> alabd: freedom
[07:20] <chu_> Homework?
[07:20] <kinja-sheep> !info devede | blackrock
[07:20] <ArtyG> GNU/Linux is a magical unicorn that flies through our dreams. That's the main benefit.
[07:20] <chu_> Mmm. be back hopefully.
[07:21] <blackrock> thx kinja-sheep, ubottu
[07:22] <chu_> Well, killing X did nothing to resolve the issue.
[07:23] <ArQiLLiOnS> u know where i can get proposal for file sharing server using ubuntu??
[07:29] <chu_> ArQiLLiOnS: Pardon? You want to set-up a file sharing server which is running Ubuntu?
[07:29] <ArQiLLiOnS> yes...
[07:30] <ArQiLLiOnS> is that possible...?
[07:30] <ArQiLLiOnS> it is right, im new so need more info
[07:30] <Flannel> ArQiLLiOnS: What sort of sharing are you hoping for?
[07:35] <ArQiLLiOnS> actually im looking for a high speed network, linking to 4 MacPro`s, for editing purposes on HD...they need fast transfer rate, to cut the transfer time, plus the want to centralized all of their movie clips, wat hardware plus should i consider "optic cable"?
[07:36] <Flannel> ArQiLLiOnS: er.  You're talking about physical network?  That'd be a different channel
[07:37] <chu_> ArQiLLiOnS: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[07:37] <Flannel> !nfs
[07:37] <ArQiLLiOnS> well im considering using Ubuntu for the server OS, cuz they only need to use the server as a storage device
[07:37] <Flannel> That's the software you want to use
[07:37] <Flannel> (NFS if you just need to talk between *nixes, including OSX)
[07:37] <paotzu> aggregated 1000basex
[07:38] <paotzu> I mean basesx
[07:38] <chu_> Is UF down or is my net just really bad? I seem to be able to load google roughly ok, but UF is just terrible....
[07:38] <Diverdude> is it possible to make a global directory shortcut? Like for example ~/ is short for /home/usrname, i would like to make one called e.g. arb/ which should correspond to /media/Traydata/arbejde ?
[07:39] <chu_> Diverdude: I think it's a symbolic link?
[07:39] <Diverdude> chu_, i see...how are those made?
[07:39] <ArQiLLiOnS> how bout the transferring? any suggestions? how to make it faster? fiber optic?
[07:39] <ArQiLLiOnS> cuz they deal alot in HD format
[07:40] <indus> herbero, sudo fdisk -l will show
[07:40] <paotzu> ArQiLLiOns: aggregated 1000basesx
[07:40] <indus> chu_, so is it still there?
[07:40] <chu_> indus, yeah unfortunately.
[07:40] <paotzu> ArQiLLiOns: fiber aggregating tap
[07:41] <chu_> Diverdude: Check this out, don't know what it says, but it was the top link from google on symbolic link with ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/user-guide/C/gosnautilus-8.html
[07:41] <herbero> indus: yeah, it is not there
[07:41] <herbero> indus: so they sent me a bunk one
[07:41] <indus> herbero, external disk?
[07:41] <indus> herbero, works on windows?
[07:41] <ArQiLLiOnS> thanx paotzu
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:44] <Diverdude> chu_, i do not think symbolic link is the solution
[07:44] <chu_> ActionParsnip will most definitely have a solution Diverdude ... Repeat your question :p
[07:45] <ArQiLLiOnS> what if i dont want to convert it to ethernet from fiber, meaning fiber all the way? am i asking the right question :)
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Chu_: he he. Bit tired but I'll try.
[07:45] <Diverdude> is it possible to make a global directory shortcut? Like for example ~/ is short for /home/usrname, i would like to make one called e.g. arb/ which should correspond to /media/Traydata/arbejde ?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Chu_: thanks btw ;)
[07:45] <indus> ActionParsnip, yo yo
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: could create an export in .bashrc
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: you can then use: cd $arb
[07:46] <chu_> Is UF getting hammered by extreme traffic? It just won't load anything for me...
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Indus: werd up bro
[07:47] <indus> ActionParsnip, werd? iam fine thanks
[07:47] <indus> ActionParsnip, good day?
[07:47] <paotzu> ArQiLLiOns: maybe that is #hardware question. What you want is multiple 802.3ad capable cards and trunk the connections into one super connection, if I understand your question.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Chu_: try: http://www.isitdownorisitme.com
[07:47] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, well what if i am then in location a and i want to do a cp $arb/something to $arb/somethingElse  will that be possible?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Indus: long and very tired
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: absolutely
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: there are a few already setup like $HOME
[07:48] <ArQiLLiOnS> ok paotzu, thanx alot!
[07:48] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, okay...how do i make such an export?
[07:48] <chu_> ActionParsnip: I'm assuming if it's me that site won't load?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Indus: 12 hour NOC shift. Although 4 days off now
[07:48] <indus> ah sys admin woes
[07:49] <meowbuntu> hi i am on live usb os  playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks.
[07:49] <paotzu> AeQiLLiOnS: the ubuntu part is just a few edits to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:49] <ArQiLLiOnS> can anyone invite me to be in #hardware
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: export arb="/media/Traydata/arbejde"
[07:49] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: don't let the long day make you forget that !offtopic factoid :)
[07:49] <Yerushalmi> Other than wine, are there any other good Windows emulators/compatibility layers out there?
[07:49] <meowbuntu> any ideas
[07:50] <sickly> virtualbox
[07:50] <paotzu> ArQiLLiOnS: you basically have the answer, there are not too many ways of doing this aside from extremely expensive equipment
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: put that in $HOME/.bashrc then run: source $HOME/.bashrc
[07:50] <indus> Yerushalmi, wine is 'Wine Is Not an Emulator
[07:50] <Haldrie> hi I'm working on using grub2 on a usb flash drive to boot various isos from and I managed to get the latest ubuntu livecd loaded using a guide I found in the forums but it causes it to boot directly to the livecd and won't show the menu that the real disc shows. Is there anyway to allow it to load the iso as if I were loading it from a disc in my cd drive instead of automatically booting to the livecd?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Mnetpok: my bad
[07:50] <Haldrie> I was using this post btw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[07:50] <Yerushalmi> indus: That's why I said "compatibility layer" also :p
[07:50] <thegeekyhaxor> hi
[07:50] <spasht> can someone help me setting up my tvtime. SAA7130
[07:50] <indus> Yerushalmi, crossover i think
[07:50] <ArQiLLiOnS> well, i know its goin` to be expensive...
[07:50] <indus> Yerushalmi, yea noticed that later :)
[07:50] <ArQiLLiOnS> but atleast i have sumting to show to my client
[07:50] <thegeekyhaxor> need some help
[07:50] <indus> Yerushalmi, qemu is emulator though
[07:50] <Yerushalmi> sickly: I tried using virtualbox but I don't get it. Don't you need to install windows "into" it?
[07:50] <indus> !qemu
[07:51] <ArQiLLiOnS> i dont want them to use windows server
[07:51] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: no worries. forced march days at call centers kill anyone.
[07:51] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, just append it in the bottom of the file?
[07:51] <sickly> yes
[07:51] <Yerushalmi> sickly: Then no go, I don't have windows :p
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Mnetpok: its my normal day. 4 on 4 off ;)
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: sure
[07:51] <meowbuntu> hi i am on live usb os  playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks.
[07:51] <meowbuntu> hi i am on live usb os  playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks.
[07:51] <Yerushalmi> indus: which would you suggest to try first, crossover or qemu?
[07:51] <syn-ack> meowbuntu: really, is there any reason for a parroting?
[07:52] <thegeekyhaxor> hey guys i need some help with flash plugin in ubuntu
[07:52] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, nice :) thx m8
[07:52] <crazycool> hi there
[07:52] <indus> Yerushalmi, i dont have experience in either, but you should try both since one is an emu and one is a compatibility layer thing
[07:52] <meowbuntu> syn-ack: oops am in several chanels my mistake
[07:52] <Yerushalmi> Qemu's the emu, I assume? :)
[07:52] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: such as?
[07:53] <crazycool> gents, what could I use to send mail without installing any MTA... I need just in send mail, not receive
[07:53] <indus> !emulator
[07:53] <indus> !EMU
[07:53] <meowbuntu> qemu is like its own virtual machine.
[07:53] <Yerushalmi> indus: can't find crossover in Ubuntu software center, where is it?
[07:53] <thegeekyhaxor> syn-ack ... i have installed the flash plugin, but the controls dont work... such as i cant pause a video et al
[07:53] <meowbuntu> !qemu
[07:53] <Haldrie> I think my question has gotten overlooked
[07:53] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: 64 bit machine?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: you can do tonnes of mad stuff in bash like that
[07:53] <thegeekyhaxor> syn-ack,  yep
[07:53] <indus> Yerushalmi, its not free
[07:54] <indus> as far as i know
[07:54] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: nspluginwrapper is crashing.
[07:54] <meowbuntu> !ask | Haldrie
[07:54] <Yerushalmi> indus: Aha.
[07:54] <meowbuntu> Haldrie: ask again now
[07:54] <thegeekyhaxor> syn-ack, so reinstalling it will solve the prob?
[07:54] <misterB> Yerushalmi: If you don't have windows and you
[07:54] <indus> Yerushalmi, maybe if you tell the channel what you are looking or trying to do,someone might suggest some good things
[07:54] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: I removed all of the flash non-free stuff, including the wrapper, and installed the beta of the linux 64 bit player
[07:55] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: no, it wont
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Thegeekyhaxor: tried the 64bit flash plugin?
[07:55] <cnvl_> When using TV-Out with nvidia's binary driver, my TV picture extends past the edges of my TV. How do I fix this?
[07:55] <indus> Yerushalmi, http://www.codeweavers.com/products/
[07:55] <misterB> Yerushalmi: and you don't want to pay, you're stuck with wine
[07:55] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip: hah ++
[07:55] <thegeekyhaxor> syn-ack,  okay
[07:55] <thegeekyhaxor> actionparsnip: nope
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Syn-ack: works great here
[07:55] <chu_> Hey, ActionParsnip perhaps you know .. So my Evolution *thinks* it's still sending an email (I deleted ~/.evolution/mail/local/Outbox) ... Do you know how to remedy this?
[07:56] <herbero> indus: don't think so, it has never been partitioned
[07:56] <thegeekyhaxor> ActionParsnip,  I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree
[07:56] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip: same here. I wish the medibuntu crew would hurry up and include it
[07:56] <thegeekyhaxor> ActionParsnip, whats the package for the 64 bit
[07:56] <indus> herbero, i mean windows will detect the disk
[07:56] <Yerushalmi> indus: Basically, I want to use the NES emulator from my old windows computer. the reason I don't want to use an ubuntu emulator is because I have a save rather far along I don't want to lose.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Thegeekyhaxxor: ramove all flash plugins including gnash and swfdec and grab the tar.gz of the 64bit plugin. Copy the file to your plugins folder
[07:56] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: that installs the 32 bit with the wrapper
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Thegeekyhaxor: there isn't one. You do it manually
[07:56] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, what else can you do of cool stuff?
[07:56] <cnvl_> Yeru: the save formats aren't compatible? What's the NES emulator you're using
[07:56] <aropupu_> aaargh, could someone help me set up my gravis gamepad in karmic? been going over this post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338457 since yesterday now but without any luck
[07:57] <Yerushalmi> indus: The emulator doesn't work great in wine, I was wondering if there was another I could try.
[07:57] <thegeekyhaxor> ActionParsnip, okay... thanks will do that
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: make aliases to long strings of commands you use a lot
[07:57] <Yerushalmi> cnvl_: I assumed that they wouldn't be, but that would be neat if they were! JNes?
[07:57] <herbero> indus: don't know why it would, in any case I can't check no one here runs windows
[07:57] <thegeekyhaxor> ActionParsnip, also when i install firefox.. the 3.6 beta gets installed and it doesnt start after getting installed
[07:57] <mneptok> Diverdude: alias rm="rm -I"
[07:57] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: like I said, remove all of the flash-nonfree stuff, including that wrapper and get the 64 bit player from adobelabs
[07:58] <mneptok> Diverdude: you'll thank me some day
[07:58] <cnvl_> I can't think of any priori reason they shouldn't be compatible. most emulators typically treat machine state as a binary dump of the memory
[07:58] <meowbuntu> ActionParsnip: you have anyideas as to how to y youtube videos are playing fast on my live usb install
[07:58] <indus> herbero, well, does the command mount show it , or check under gparted, btw, is this an external HDD
[07:58] <Lord-Readman> hives: the vote for the x68k comp is here http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9
[07:58] <cnvl_> but I'm not familiar with JNes off the top of my head
[07:58] <Yerushalmi> cnvl_: Make my life a lot easier if I could just import the save into a built-for-ubuntu NES emulator. I wasn't too happy (though I liked the recursion of) using an emulator inside an emulator (Yes, I know that Wine Is Not an Emulator :p )
[07:58] <cnvl_> Tru it and see
[07:58] <cnvl_> *try
[07:58] <syn-ack> thegeekyhaxor: there's been quite a few new bugs regarding firefox 3.6 :/
[07:58] <herbero> indus: nah, not in /mnt either
[07:58] <Yerushalmi> cnvl_: It appears to be, yes. I'll try it. What ubuntu NES emulator do  you suggest?
[07:58] <herbero> indus: seems like a bunk hd to me
[07:58] <Haldrie> hi I'm working on using grub2 on a usb flash drive to boot various isos from and I managed to get the latest ubuntu livecd loaded using a guide I found in the forums but it causes it to boot directly to the livecd and won't show the menu that the real disc shows. Is there anyway to allow it to load the iso as if I were loading it from a disc in my cd drive instead of automatically booting to the livecd? I was using this post to
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Meowbuntu: reinstall flash or use 64bit flash if you use 64bit os. Could also try the mozilla ppa for a later build
[07:59] <indus> herbero,is it an external HDD
[07:59] <Diverdude> mneptok, hehe, what does the -I option do?
[07:59] <thegeekyhaxor> syn-ack, okay... i assumed that... i hope i can still install firefox 3.5
[07:59] <cnvl_> Ahh, heh. I've used NESTopia, dunno how good the linux build is
[07:59]  * Yerushalmi now has this desire to run an emulator of NES inside an emulator of Windows inside an emulator of FreeBSD.
[07:59] <herbero> indus: no SATA
[07:59] <mneptok> Diverdude: prompts when deleting more than 3 files or deleting recursively.
[07:59] <alankila> Haldrie: I thought you can just dd the iso to usb stick and it should boot like the cd does... but I'm not 100% sure of this, of course
[07:59]  * Yerushalmi is a sad, sad, man.
[07:59] <Diverdude> mneptok, ahhh....good idea
[07:59] <indus> Yerushalmi, why
[07:59] <mneptok> Diverdude: ignore it if you really like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" moments
[08:00] <indus> !patience | Yerushalmi
[08:00] <Monona> I want to run a script to check my realtime kernal configuration, but I don't how to run scripts.  The suffix is .pl, but I don't even know what that means...
[08:00] <alankila> Monona: ./script.pl And pl stands for Perl.
[08:00] <Yerushalmi> indus: Not "sad" as in unhappy. Sad as in pathetic. Read my previous sentence. :p
[08:00] <Haldrie> alankila: I'm trying to put multiple isos on 1 flash drive and boot them using grub2
[08:00] <DaemonFC> Monona, You may want to patch it with BFS if you're trying to make it a very low latency kernel
[08:00] <indus> Yerushalmi, ok :)
[08:00] <DaemonFC> that really wakes things up :)
[08:01] <Yerushalmi> indus: I mean, you've just been helping me with my question, have you already forgotten? ;)
[08:01] <Monona> alankila: I just navigate to the directory in the CLI, and just type ./script.pl?
[08:01] <alankila> oh. Well that sounds more interesting, I guess you could try putting them each on different partition and use grub to manage which boot sector to boot....?
[08:01] <indus> Yerushalmi, no, but i cant advice on this further
[08:01] <kohlrak> Anyone know how i can get programs to autostart *BEFORE* login (ex, a server i need to run)?
[08:01] <alankila> Monona: yes, that's the gist of it.
[08:01] <Diverdude> mneptok, bash: alias: rm: not found
[08:01] <Diverdude> bash: alias: =: not found
[08:01] <Diverdude> bash: alias: rm -I: not found
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> !startup | Kohlrak
[08:02] <Monona> DaemonFC: I don't know what that means. :)
[08:02] <chu_> Sweet, indus! It's gone ...  I think!!!
[08:02] <kohlrak> ah, thank you ActionParsnip
[08:02] <Yerushalmi> indus: Well, NES emulators and Windows emulators (YIKWINAE) are two different topics, and there was discussion drift. I had already expected it to move into the realm of other people's expertise.
[08:02] <kohlrak> !boot | Kohlrak
[08:02] <Yerushalmi> YIKWINAE = Yes I Know Wine Is Not An Emulator ;)
[08:02] <DaemonFC> Monona, google BFS scheduler, I won't say what it stands for cause of language
[08:02] <indus> chu_, really?
[08:02] <DaemonFC> but it's a good patch for the kernel
[08:03] <nomad77> DaemonFC: con's ck patches are back at kernel.org
[08:03] <Diverdude> mneptok, ahh think i got it...no white-spaces allowed :)
[08:03] <DaemonFC> CFS is the default these days and it's surprisingly worse than "deadline"
[08:03] <Yerushalmi> Anyway, thanks for all the help, indus, cnvl_.
[08:03] <DaemonFC> it's really geared for big iron more than desktops
[08:03] <indus> whats cnvl
[08:04] <alankila> DaemonFC: but CFS is a disk scheduler while BFS is a process scheduler, right?
[08:04] <cnvl_> problem resolved? I was going to get Jnes and try it myself
[08:04] <chu_> Well I think so, but I don't know what I did, as in I did nothing!
[08:04] <cnvl_> if I could use this website.. >.>
[08:04] <DaemonFC> alankila, Both are I/O schedulers
[08:04] <Yerushalmi> cnvl_: Don't know yet, but I have a direction to look in, which is important.
[08:04] <Shambat> I have a sheevaplug, but the pre-installed Ubuntu does not have any kernel modules installed ... probably because there is a low amount of hard drive space available. Is it possible to boot from another device such as a USB stick? As long as the instruction set (ARMv5) is used, there should be no problem right?
[08:04] <Yerushalmi> I'll check out emulator compatibility, and then Windows compatibility.
[08:04] <cnvl_> Could you give me the download link to the version of JNes you're using?
[08:04] <alankila> Err, no. BFS is supposed to be some low-latency processing hack, last time I heard about it.
[08:04] <DaemonFC> patching the kernel with BFS overrides CFS, even though the kernel config may say CFS is the default
[08:05] <Yerushalmi> Well, I used 1.0. Unfortunately Wine was only compatible with 0.6. And I'm not using it now; I recently reformatted my computer; I just have my save stored elsewhere.
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Cnvl_: tried getdeb?
[08:05] <Monona> alankila: It tells me "command not found"  I'm sure this is real basic, but I'm not getting it.
[08:05] <student> how do i remove rhythmbox and empathy from docky?  i dont see a way to delete them off the dock...
[08:05] <cnvl_> ActionParsnip: it's windows
[08:05] <DaemonFC> The Brain **** Scheduler (or BFS) is a task scheduler designed for the Linux kernel in August of 2009  as an alternative to the Completely Fair Scheduler and the O(1) scheduler.
[08:05] <alankila> Monona: perhaps you are in the wrong directory. Or perhaps the .pl file references a Perl interpreter from unusual place, not /usr/bin/perl
[08:05] <DaemonFC> from Wikipedia
[08:06] <Yerushalmi> cnvl_: Both versions should be here: http://jabosoft.com/?categoryid=3
[08:06] <Yerushalmi> But I have to go anyway
[08:06] <Yerushalmi> Thanks :)
[08:06] <chu_> Anyway, cheers guys I'm so frustrated still I have to leave my computer.
[08:06] <DaemonFC> it's meant for desktop PCs with less than 16 cores, I think anyone in here would benefit from it
[08:07] <alankila> DaemonFC: okay. My and your mistake. BFS is task scheduler, but so is CFS. I confused it with CFQ, I guess.
[08:07] <alankila> I simply thought to this point that the default linux task scheduler has no particular name.
[08:07] <DaemonFC> My ATI card using FGLRX even seems less "jerky"
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Daemonfc: doubt I would. My pc use is chat and web browsing on a k7 cpu most days
[08:08] <DaemonFC> though that might be the other stuff, like turning off tickless that he recommended
[08:08] <ouyes> !ati
[08:08] <Diverdude> mneptok, hehhehe....im not to fund of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! moment :D
[08:08] <DaemonFC> Catalyst really is the devil, 10.2 goes so far as to break compiz
[08:08] <kifotv> hello, I was having trouble getting the live cd to open (9.10), so i used the 'help me boot from cd' option in wubi, but now when i try to install from the live environment I get all of these weird errors about /host. I can't install without unmounting it, I'm assuming, as I need to format it to install onto it. Any ideas?
[08:09] <ouyes> DaemonFC, envyqt for ati driver installation aid
[08:09] <kifotv> I have 0 experience with wubi, never had this many problems before.
[08:09] <Monona> alankila:  It's on my Desktop, I'm in ~/Desktop$  I've tried ./script.pl, /script.pl, script.pl, etc, where "script" is the actual name of the script.  realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl, to be precise.
[08:09] <DaemonFC> I can't even think that 10.2 was tested
[08:09] <alankila> Monona: so what is the first line of that program, then? Open it in some text editor to check
[08:09] <DaemonFC> ouyes, The crap in the repository is old, and the module is for Ubuntu's kernel that I'm not using
[08:09] <Monona> #! /usr/bin/perl
[08:10] <kifotv> Nutshell: I need to unmount /host, which is mounted because of wubi, but I am having troubles doing that because of /host (I think)
[08:10] <alankila> Monona: okay, that must exist. Is the file marked executable -- does ls -l realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl say -rwxr-xr-x, the "x" being present?
[08:10] <Monona> DaemonFC: BFS scheduler looks interesting, but I'm just trying to get a stable workstation.
[08:11] <Monona> alankila: No. It says -rw-r--r--
[08:11] <DaemonFC> it seems that envy has turned into something useless that pulls in the same driver Jockey would have suggested
[08:11] <Monona> How do I make it executable?
[08:11] <alankila> Monona: chmod 0755 realtimeetc.pl
[08:12] <DaemonFC> it used to go grab the latest driver from ATI or Nvidia
[08:12] <alankila> Monona: then try again
[08:12] <kifotv> It almost seems like you can't unmount whatever drive you booted out of if you used wubi
[08:12] <alankila> Monona: the more friendly way to add executable bits is actually chmod a+x realtime.pl, the a+x means "add x to everyone's permissions"
[08:13] <Monona> alankila:  Ah, that worked.  What exactly did I do there?
[08:13] <Monona> x meaning what?
[08:13]  * kinja-sheep EXECUTE Monona! 
[08:13] <bjking> Can someone explain why they would replace pidgin with empathy?
[08:13] <Monona> Executed!
[08:13] <alankila> Monona: allow execution by kernel.
[08:14] <DaemonFC> bjking, insanity
[08:14] <bjking> kk
[08:14] <stdisease> Monona, and for directories it means allow access through it - just for completeness ske
[08:14] <bjking> jw
[08:14] <alankila> Monona: linux has a very confusing way of dealing with executable programs mostly due to historical reasons, as usual. Linux inherits from unix, and they are very old. When executing scripts, there are too few error codes to accurately report why it doesn't work, so it usually says whatever instead of something useful when some particular thing is wrong
[08:14] <bjking> it's the worst EVER
[08:14] <rww> DaemonFC: that's not helpful.
[08:15] <Monona> stdisease: Access through directories how?
[08:15] <alankila> Monona: he means that the "x" bit on directories means that listing directory is allowed
[08:15] <DaemonFC> GNOME thought they're re-implement Pidgin with half the features and 1/10th the options, and depend on libpurple anyway for most of the things it can do. That's my honest opinion. It may sound sarcastic.
[08:15] <alankila> or was that "r"? I'm not sure. SOrry. Forget I said anything
[08:16] <kifotv> maybe its been too long since I've done an install, ive never had even close to this much trouble over just installing
[08:16] <rww> bjking: The underlying technology that Empathy uses (called Telepathy) is more extendable and better allows integration into other desktop apps.
[08:16] <alankila> In any case it's a confusing, irritating mess. Imo.
[08:16] <ardchoille> alankila: "read", the x bit means you can read the dir. Removing the x bit locks users out
[08:16] <bjking> right
[08:16] <Monona> alankila: This is all new to me.  By the time I actually get jack running without xruns, seems like I'm going to have learned a few things along the way.
[08:16]  * DaemonFC snores loudly and goes back to liking Pidgin better
[08:16] <alankila> ardchoille: okay, but can you still access a file in directory even if you don't allow x, if you know the name?
[08:16] <stdisease> Monona, alankila : r for listing, x for accessing files and subdirectories under it
[08:17] <rww> alankila: no
[08:17] <alankila> stdisease, rww: thanks for enlightenment. R for read, X for aXess. Easy to remember ;-)
[08:17] <ardchoille> alankila: I don't think so, removing the x bit removes all access to the dir (read, write, ls, cp, etc)
[08:17] <racerd> !alas
[08:18] <racerd> hiya
[08:18] <pranith> heyyy
[08:18] <racerd> any gamers on?
[08:18] <blue112> Hello here.
[08:18] <ardchoille> alankila: this is why recursive chmod can be a bad thing
[08:18] <bjking> DOTA is a game
[08:18] <racerd> lol
[08:18] <racerd> i love dota
[08:18] <pranith> where can i find the Ubuntu netbook remix for ARM devices?
[08:18] <bjking> google
[08:18] <DaemonFC> I suspect it won't be long before I have to manually install everything that used to be there that did what I wanted because they deprecated it and replaced it with something that means nothing to me. :) OK, that was sarcastic.
[08:18] <alankila> ardchoille: you mean the usual "chmod 0777 -R /" recommended to new linux users?
[08:19] <alankila> (that is a joke, please don't execute it.)
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> !arm
[08:19] <stdisease> lol
[08:19] <racerd> too late
[08:19] <ardchoille> alankila: there shouldn't ever be a need to do that
[08:19] <racerd> !alsa
[08:19] <alankila> ardchoille: actually, I have seen people do that!
[08:19] <racerd> how do i shut off pulse sound
[08:19] <LSD|Ninja> How do I enable window resizing where the window resizes in real time instead of the translucent blue outline that the windows fill when you let go?
[08:19] <MilitantPotato> I've chowned / before
[08:19] <alankila> "Can't figure out linux permissions, how do I get rid of them" and then someone says that.
[08:19] <pranith> bjking, thanks for the help. :P
[08:20] <bjking> np :)
[08:20] <pranith> koi tho batao yaar
[08:20] <racerd> actually i do have a issue that is kind weird
[08:20] <racerd> my x11 desktop settings won't save
[08:20] <racerd> i have to reconfigure them on all of the reboots
[08:20] <cnvl_> desktop settings as in resolution?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: what video card?
[08:21] <racerd> geforce 8800M
[08:21] <racerd> not just resolution
[08:21] <cnvl_> are you using nvidia's binary driver?
[08:21] <racerd> which display being the main display as well
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: run: gksudo nvidia-settings ,you can now save to xorg.conf
[08:21] <racerd> yeah
[08:21] <carbm1> How do you set the default home directory permissions when users are created? I've tried /etc/login.def and /etc/adduser.conf and the new home directories are still 755.
[08:21] <alankila> Monona: about jack, the only recommendation I have for you is to enable the realtime scheduling of jack, there was some work required for it, not sure what, but something to do if you are of the mind
[08:22] <ouyes> hi everyone
[08:22] <alankila> Monona: I once wrote a guitar effects processor on top of jack and I found that allowing realtime scheduling for jack really helped against underruns, I ran with something like 256 sample buffers or 4 ms, if memory serves
[08:22] <racerd> son of a... well damn that worked
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: if it moans about no xorg.conf run: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,then retry
[08:22] <cnvl_> ... I was just about to say that. heh.
[08:23] <alankila> that's more like 6 ms though...
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: running nvidia settings alone runs it as user. Gksudo gets you the write access you need ;)
[08:23] <racerd> that is what i figured was going on
[08:23] <Monona> alankila: Yeah, that's what I'm working on.  I've posted on the forum and I'm making progress, but I just didn't know how to run the diagnostic script.  jack is killing me with xruns and I've got it at more than 80ms latency.  I'm just trying to figure out why.
[08:24] <racerd> i just didn't know how to enable the permissions needed
[08:24] <pranav1> using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp
[08:24] <stdisease> carbm1, sounds like you need to umask 0 first
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: the system will also boot in that res etc. If you hit another monitor to it you will need to blank out the current file etc.
[08:24] <alankila> Monona: your system's messed up seriously if you still get underruns at 80 ms. That's ridiculous. Maybe the effect programs you are running against jack are too slow, or is it without anything connected to jack yet?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Racerd: every day is a school day
[08:24] <pranav1> using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp
[08:24] <misterB> pranav1: should just work
[08:24] <racerd> yes i know
[08:25] <alankila> I have java programs that are able to deal with 50 ms buffers
[08:25] <racerd> i work in IT :(
[08:25] <racerd> but all of our junk is windows
[08:25] <racerd> or oracle db's
[08:25] <alankila> and java's an unpredictable execution environment
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Pranav1: you need to set the dns server to the virtualbox one. I forget its ip. Or bridge the network so it appears on your network as a seperate system
[08:26] <stdisease> pranav1, you configure the networking options in vbox and in XP you see IP configuration to DHCP
[08:26] <bjking> I was in a coldfusion class as i have to tkae such a class and the instructor informed a group of smokers I was amongst that coldfusion is MUCH better than PHP
[08:26] <bjking> is my instructor a fucking idiot?
[08:26] <Monona> alankila: That's before I'm even running any other programs.  This is a fresh install of Hardy Heron, with the realtime kernel and all.  Forum dude thinks it's CPU frequency scaling issue.  Again, out of my league but working on it.
[08:26] <koltroll> Good morning peeps
[08:26] <alankila> bjking: "better" is relative as first approximation, so anybody can be right depending on what they are thinking about.
[08:26] <cnvl_> your instructor is opinionated. welcome to education.
[08:26] <hamish__> hi - looking for some business aps that run on ubuntu - anyone here that can help?
[08:26] <bjking> he's like
[08:26] <bjking> aww man
[08:27] <bjking> Coldfusion and enterprise apps
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Pranav1: 10.0.2.2
[08:27] <bjking> is where it's at dudddde
[08:27] <bjking> Disney uses coldfusion
[08:27] <alankila> Monona: okay. No, I don't think it is  cpu scaling problem, but of course you can try to disable the ondemand cpu scheduler, set that to performance
[08:27] <stdisease> or maybe that was vmware with the dhcp... meh, lol
[08:27] <alankila> When I still had linux on my main box I had done that because ondemand sucks
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Pranav1: set that as the dns server and it will be fine, or use bridged lan
[08:27] <bjking> but I tend to think it's just complete and utter adobe garbage.  :( Am I wrong?
[08:27] <Myrtti> !offtopic | bjking
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Stdisease: it has dhcp, just doesn't seem to want to share its dns server
[08:28] <Monona> alankila:  What's ondemand?  The thing is, this is a pretty new computer and I don't think it's a hardware issue.  Jack has worked pretty much out the box for me before, even on old hardware.
[08:28] <hamish__>  I have a client that is contemplating switching from windows to linux. I am encouraging this but I need to find out what alternatives he has to provide applications for G/L, Inv, POS, drs, crs etc - can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:28] <stdisease> ActionParsnip, pranav1 : I just checked, I use NAT mode in VBox and DHCP in WinXP - works fine for me
[08:28] <ripdisk> i can't connect to my ubuntu from the internet via vnc OR ssh or anything.... however i can connect from the local network, and i checked a hundred times to make sure port fowarding is set up.....
[08:29] <stdisease> ActionParsnip, I didnt need to specify DNs in my case
[08:29] <alankila> Monona: linux adjusts cpu frequency based on task demand on cpu time by collecting statistics over some 100 ms intervals and adjusting the frequency such that certain % of cpu is idle if the same thing goes on in future
[08:29] <Monona> alankila:  The diagnostic script tells me "/ does not have the 'noatime' parameter set"
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Ripdisk: its the forwarding dude. If it connects over lan the service is working. Maybe you need to reboot the router. Some home grade routers need it
[08:30] <alankila> Monona: the default mode is like this, but I hate it because it adjusts too slowly -- if you have several cpu frequencies, ondemand usually steps to higher frequency one step at a time and it takes macroscopic time to go from the lowest rate to the highest cpu rate, so I have always felt that linux is annoyingly unresponsive with ondemand
[08:30] <pranav1>  stdisease i m in VB pls explain me stepvise
[08:30] <misterB> ripdisk: are you planning to do more than VNC?
[08:30] <paotzu> bjking: php and coldfusion are used for different things. Disney uses php and cold fusion. Disney uses cold fusion for instance for "club penguin" and php for more informational sites
[08:30] <alankila> Monona: the noatime is not really recommended anymore, ignore that. The modern linuxes run with something called relatime... or is your distro too old for that... don't remember
[08:31] <nicoco> hi ! when I install postgresql8-4 I have an error stating that the file /var/run/postgresql/8.4-main.pid doesn't exist can someone help me ?
[08:31] <pranav1> using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp
[08:31] <ripdisk> ActionParsnip: i rebooted the router several time.
[08:31] <pranav1> using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp
[08:31] <alankila> I don't remember if relatime was invented at time of hardy.
[08:31] <ripdisk> times*
[08:31] <Ferrenrock> hey, can anyone recommend an rss feed reader for the GNOME desktop? (preferably one that's transparent and not too intrusive)
[08:31] <mvn071> Hi, I have been working on some documentation and would like to have some feedback to improve it. It is on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE thanks
[08:31] <ripdisk> and misterB: what do you mean more than vnc?
[08:31] <stdisease> pranav1, well click your appliance settings, and under network, set adapter 1 : Attached to NAT
[08:31] <bjking> paotzu: they seem to have the same function.... the class I'm in isn't especially informative
[08:32] <bjking> Ferronrock: avant-window-navigator has an rss app and so does gnome-panel
[08:32] <theadmin> Say, is it fine to put something like this in /etc/init.d or is it better to put it uh, somewhere else? It needs to be run for all users, that is. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d17b2e265
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Ripdisk: then all I can suggest is revise settings. Don't use vnc over wan without ssh tunnel too ;)
[08:32] <alankila> Monona: in any case, noatime only adds a little bit of disk speed to your system, we're talking about 10 % faster disks or something like that.
[08:32] <misterB> you mentioned vnc and ssh
[08:32] <nicoco> pranav1 : I didn't have to do anything it just works
[08:32] <stdisease> pranav1, I have PCnet-FAST III as hardware type selected, click the recycle button to generate a new MAC address if needed, make sure 'Cable connected' is on
[08:32] <Ferrenrock> bjking: does that make it show up on the desktop itself or just in the little panel?
[08:32] <Monona> alankila:  If that was the issue, the xruns would decrease after a little while, right?  Once the CPU scaled to the proper frequency?  Or am I way off in understanding how this works?  For what it's worth, it's a dual core pentium D 3.00 GHz.
[08:32] <alankila> Monona: and against relatime the benefit is probably very minor
[08:32] <misterB> ripdisk: you mentioned vnc and ssh
[08:32] <ripdisk> yeah, i have the vnc server running as well as the ssh server
[08:32] <ripdisk> and i can connect from within my router
[08:32] <bjking> Ferron: right click on gnome panel
[08:32] <bjking> hit add to panel
[08:32] <ripdisk> however, i can't connect via my public ip
[08:32] <stdisease> pranav1, in XP, on your network connection settings set Obtain IP address automatically (that's dhcp)
[08:33] <pranav1> stdisease -den error occur using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp
[08:33] <paotzu> bjking: the bottom line on that is adobe (and macromedia before) publishes flash and coldfusion, so they interoperate well if you are making something like club penguin
[08:33] <alankila> Monona: yes, the basic idea is that the ondemand works, it's just too slow to adjust for my taste. For audio processing you'd have a steady, predictable load, and not much issue with ondemand, most likely. Plus it only matters after you have enough tasks taking CPU that the lowest rate is no longer sufficient to handle the full suite of tasks
[08:33] <bjking> errr
[08:33] <bjking> Ferron: you may have to install through synaptic
[08:33] <nicoco> so nobody has an idea about that damn /var/run/postgresql/8.4-main.pid file ?
[08:33] <Ferrenrock> hold on bjking
[08:33] <Ferrenrock> I'm installing it
[08:33] <misterB> ripdisk: for what it's worth, you can establish a vnc session through empathy.
[08:33] <alankila> Monona: and jack-with-no-apps has to be basically 0.01 % cpu load
[08:34] <cicciods> hello
[08:34] <ripdisk> misterB: i have no idea what that means.
[08:34] <Ferrenrock> bjking: what's the name of it?
[08:34] <klic> since when did the ubuntu channel overtake gentoo
[08:34] <justin22885> has anyone here ever installed ubuntu from the 12mb network install image?
[08:34] <pranav1> stdisease-den error occur port path nt specified
[08:34] <Monona> alankila: So I need to figure out if I can mount my system with relatime enabled on Hardy?
[08:34] <klic> did 6 hours compliation installation went out of style now?
[08:34] <pranav1> port path nt specified
[08:34] <alankila> Monona: still, if there are any bugs with ondemand, such as miscalculation of the correct rate ... these could still harm you. I do think that audio apps do not in the main enjoy the concept of variable CPU speed.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: several times
[08:35] <koltroll> I still have no sound. Tried installing backports, didn't help. Tried looking at alsamixer, didn't help. Have made sure nothing is muted, didn't help. It worked fine for a while, then I think ubuntu did a update and things started to get messy.
[08:35] <alankila> underruns are deadly, and ondemand decreases the margin
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: its all I use
[08:35] <justin22885> im doing that now.. its download and installing the base system now
[08:35] <alankila> Monona: no. It won't help you.
[08:35] <justin22885> my laptop uses wifi, so i had to share internet with my desktop
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: nice. No need to update once installed ;)
[08:36] <bjking> Ferron: I'm unsure..... quick search RSS and then Search gnome
[08:36] <misterB> ripdisk: if you're using googletalk or jabber, you initiate a screen sharing session with another contact. Not sure if this can be automated. If so, you avoid port forwarding
[08:36] <alankila> Monona: disabling atime gives only an improvement of the apparent disk speed.
[08:36] <bjking> Or ask someone who knows
[08:36] <justin22885> im trying to decide exactly what to install after the base command line system is up and running
[08:36] <ripdisk> misterB: oh.
[08:36] <Ferrenrock> I'll see
[08:36] <Monona> alankila: Any thoughts on what it might be?  Or directions I should look into?
[08:36] <misterB> ripdisk: I know it works with empathy on 9.10
[08:37] <justin22885> which distro did you use actionparsnip?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: depends what you like. For a small fast system use lxde or xfce
[08:37] <alankila> Monona: ensure jack has the audio device for itself. Check you aren't running esd or pulseaudio (if that was relevant for hardy heron)... Didn't jack have a way to open the audio device in some kind of exclusive mode via hw:0,0 access
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: gentoo, lubuntu and puppy
[08:37] <justin22885> i have 1gb RAM and a 1.6ghz cpu
[08:37] <justin22885> this is a netbook
[08:37] <bjking> Ferron: gDesklets?
[08:37] <alankila> Monona: so you are probably best off making sure that jack is realtime & has audio device for itself at the very least.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: any will be fine
[08:38] <Ferrenrock> bjking: yeah I'll try that
[08:38] <madhu> hi
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: lightness leaves more space for your apps to run
[08:38] <Seveas-train> hello madhu
[08:38] <Monona> alankila: I'm checking that with fuser -v /dev/snd* and making sure Pulseaudio is dead.  My soundcard shares an IRQ with a usb device.  Would that matter?
[08:38] <justin22885> the LXDE screenshots remind me of windows xp
[08:39] <Seveas-train> Monona: no, IRQ's don't matter
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: probably because of the deep blue
[08:39] <stdisease> justin22885, and if you don't want the fuss you can even go with a combo of xdm and openbox
[08:39] <stdisease> justin22885, then install the applications you need individually
[08:39] <semitones> just move the panel to the top and you're good to go
[08:39] <alankila> Monona: well, it would probably depend on activity on that IUSB device or controller. It probably doesn't matter, but you are best off dedicating an IRQ for your audio device.
[08:39] <ripdisk> this is frustrating, all my settings are right, and my ports are fowarded... yet i can't ssh or ANYTHING
[08:39] <justin22885> maybe, lightness is a good idea, though this netbook will run windows 7 and vista, id like to keep it to windows xp or lesser level of latency
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Ripdisk: contact the manufacturer and read your manual
[08:40] <bjking> I'm on my dell mini9 with openbox
[08:40] <bjking> :P
[08:40] <paotzu> justin22885: I have same configuration, run full ubuntu no issues
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: for true lightness: flwm
[08:40] <alankila> Monona: linux mostly just acknowledges the IRQs when they arrive from various devices and moves the processing to internally scheduled tasks, called "softirq". As opposed to "hardirq", I guess.
[08:40] <Monona> I'll just have to play around with it.  Thanks for the help!
[08:40] <alankila> Monona: the upshot is that irq sharing is relatively harmless with linux
[08:41] <justin22885> actionparsnip: youre throwing a lot of terms at me, lxde, flwm, xdm.. whatever happened to simple fluxbox?
[08:41] <Monona> This is all good stuff to learn, on the way to getting things set up properly.
[08:41] <paotzu> justin22885: use afterstep
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Justin22885: they are all alternative desktops. Websearch them to see what the deal is. Lxde is just a nice easy way to get a full set of stuff to get you started
[08:42] <alankila> Monona: still, it's probably true that there is a slight improvement if you can allocate a dedicated IRQ. That way the cpu will always receive the IRQ & know immediately it is the audio device without checking other possible sources for that IRQ
[08:42] <justin22885> is xdm a login thats unbiased to any desktop environment?
[08:42] <stdisease> justin22885, right
[08:42] <Monona> alankila: So how would I change that?
[08:42] <kinja-sheep> justin22885: It is CLI, I think.
[08:42] <alankila> Monona: BIOS
[08:42] <justin22885> then i like xdm... keep it modular, ya know?
[08:42] <titan_ark> hey. i need some help trying to figure out to use crontab
[08:43] <Monona> alankila: Oh boy. :) How's that then?
[08:43] <titan_ark> ia m unable to get it to start up any application
[08:43] <paotzu> justin22885: use wdm like redhat 5
[08:43] <alankila> Monona: in fairness I used to have a laptop that put every device on irq 11 and I never noticed. I didn't do much audio processing work on it or anything that placed hard realtime constraints, but I did run a few audio thingso n it and it all just worked
[08:43] <peleg> Upgrading to 8.04: I get this error "A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry."
[08:43] <alankila> so this is probably the sort of thing that doesn't fix your issue. It only benefits at margins.
[08:43] <peleg> and then a list, each entry looks more or less like that: "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[08:43] <justin22885> ive never used redhat... i used one of the first fedora core distros for about 2 days though
[08:43] <peleg> And then the upgrade halts...
[08:44] <alankila> Monona: well, BIOS is BIOS. You just have to boot & check it and try to allocate PCI device IRQs there. It's annoying stuff for sure. Depending on which kind of bios it's possible/impossible/merely very confusing.
[08:44] <stdisease> peleg, perhaps your network connection isn't working , check if the driver is loaded and the network interface is configured
[08:44] <Flannel> peleg: Change that from old-releases to releases
[08:44] <titan_ark> anyone?
[08:44] <alankila> Monona: it's also possible that Linux could decide the interrupts, but as far as I know Linux prefers to use the BIOS IRQ map for devices.
[08:45] <peleg> stdisease, how can it be? I am talking to you at the moment, isn't that right?
[08:45] <peleg> Flannel, I'll try that, thanks
[08:45] <paotzu> justin22885: if you want to speed your laptop, use gparted to resize your hard disk, dd to backup the file, and then install a ssd hard disk and dd the file back.
[08:45] <stdisease> titan_ark, what's the issue, did you edit the crontab file, and you have the cron daemon running?
[08:45] <justin22885> im going to need to install wifi.. i have a broadcom wifi adapter, any tips on how to get this properly configured?... my router uses no password, but will only accept devices of specific mac addresses, so no issues there
[08:45] <alankila> Monona: but I stress this likely won't fix your problem. We're talking about system that fails at 80 ms, not system that fails at 2 ms
[08:45] <alankila> dedicated IRQs can only possibly help at *very* tight setups
[08:45] <stdisease> peleg, you could be talking from another computer....
[08:45] <paotzu> justin22885: can you run gnome or... you are sticking to afterstep?
[08:46] <sairam> hi all
[08:46] <peleg> stdisease, right :) but I am not. thanks!
[08:46] <justin22885> once those 256gb SSDs become affordable, im hopping over to SSD on all devices and not looking back
[08:46] <Monona> alankila:  Gah.  That sound like too much for tonight.  It's good to have options, though.  I'll have to see if I can diagnose the problem some kind of which way.
[08:46] <justin22885> afterstep?
[08:46] <paotzu> justin22885: just remember single cell is better
[08:46] <sairam> hi can anyone help me i cant install ac97 in my linux
[08:46] <stdisease> peleg, oh you are most certainly welcome anytime
[08:46] <sairam> bro
[08:47] <paotzu> justin22885: afterstep is very old, lightweight window manager
[08:47] <koltroll> I would really appreciate some help on my sound issue
[08:47] <stdisease> peleg, change the mirror you're fetching from then, idk
[08:47] <alankila> Monona: you should probably consider a variant of ubuntu made for audio processing. Hardy is aging, and so on. Switching distro could well fix the problem, but stay away from mainstream ubuntu because you'll have to battle the monster called pulseaudio first
[08:47] <sairam> my linux is karmic stdisesase
[08:48] <justin22885> to be honest, i havent a clue as to which desktop environment i will use, fluxbox, lxde, gnome, or kde
[08:48] <sairam> gnome is good
[08:48] <koltroll> if you have no idea then gnome is probably the way to go justin22885
[08:48] <paotzu> alankila: my friend who does work with JACK and such said that pulseaudio actually fixed all his problems with some 96-bit sound card
[08:48] <kermit> justin22885: so just use whatever is the default
[08:48] <alankila> Monona: the work, however, caused by pulseaudio may have helped a large number of audio devices. Pulse is relatively timing sensitive sort of application. It thus forces improvement on the baseline quality of sound drivers, and you benefit from this work if you can update.
[08:48] <taofd> how do i figure out if i'm running the 32bit or 64bit version of ubuntu?
[08:48] <justin22885> ive used all those except for lxde
[08:49] <sairam> i have uninstall pulseaudio bro alan
[08:49] <peleg> stdisease, I have changed old-releases to releases in sources.list, but it does not help. How do I change the mirror?
[08:49] <Monona> alankila: UbuntuStudio is basically Ubuntu with extra packages, right?  Which I think I've installed.  And I've heard that realtime kernel is kinda rough in later versions.
[08:49] <koltroll> taofd, konsol -> uname -a
[08:49] <alankila> paotzu: there are no 96-bit sound cards. Perhaps you talk about 96 kHz sampling rate. Yes, that kind of things exist, they may be used by professional audio producers.
[08:49] <sairam> my soundcard is realtek
[08:49] <koltroll> taofd, I who run 64 ends with x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:49] <koltroll> taofd, * my output ends with..
[08:49] <paotzu> alankila: ah that's right, kHz. you can tell I am not pro sound producer.
[08:50] <taofd> koltroll, ah yeah, i see thx :)
[08:50] <alankila> Monona: it may also have recompiled things without pulseaudio -- which will fight with jack over control of audio -- and that's something relevant for you
[08:50] <koltroll> taofd, np
[08:50] <stdisease> perhaps try other mirrors in other locations, peleg
[08:50] <taofd> koltroll, yeah, i wasn't sure because i completely forgot which version i installed on this system, but it seems like i've installed the 64bit version
[08:50] <justin22885> ok, the net install disc is asking me to choose a kernal, any suggestions?... 2.6.31-19-386 looks good
[08:50] <Monona> alankila: How's that then?
[08:50] <peleg> stdisease, but where do I choose a mirror? the upgrading process does not ask me anything about it.
[08:51] <sairam> are there indonesian here
[08:51] <sairam> sairam
[08:51] <alankila> Monona: I'm just saying that you're probably best off with an ubuntu distribution specifically built for audio work. At least it can't be any worse than the current situation for you, whatever its cause.
[08:51] <justin22885> question: will xdm allow me to select from multiple installed desktop environments? so i could install gnome, lxde, and fluxbox and toy around with all?
[08:52] <alankila> justin22885: pure xdm? I remember that was very minimalistic, but I probably haven't seen that for nearly a decade. The lxdm, gdm and kdm all allow it.
[08:52] <titan_ark> anyone with an idea to run crontab? I am unable to use it to start an application
[08:52] <Monona> alankila: Such as UbuntuStudio?  Or are there better distros for audio?
[08:52] <alankila> Monona: I don't know the linux audio landscape, but seems like a reasonable first attempt.
[08:53] <justin22885> alankila: i just want an unbiased login, lxdm, gdm, and kdm are all biased to lxde, gnome, and kde
[08:53] <taofd> hmm... is there a way to run 32bit apps on 64bit?
[08:53] <paotzu> justin22885: use non-partisan-dm package
[08:53] <obscurant1st> somebody know where is the torrent files are stored if i use qbittorrent.
[08:53] <mrpink57> justin22885: why not skip the login manager and just use an .Xdefaults
[08:53] <obscurant1st> i meant the files with .torrent
[08:53] <kinja-sheep> justin22885: I thought you picked xdm?
[08:53] <justin22885> paotzu: what is that?
[08:53] <Monona> alankila:  Have you heard the the realtime kernel works alright in Intrepid or Jaunty or Karmic?
[08:54] <kinja-sheep> obscurant1st: Try "sudo updatedb && locate torrent"
[08:54] <alankila> justin22885: so what? xdm probably means you go for editing files when you want to change the DE, or that is what I would have had to do back in the time I still used xdm. I don't know. I recommend lxdm or gdm, who cares which one it is as long as it works?
[08:54] <justin22885> im installing the kernal right now, i havent installed anything yet
[08:54] <obscurant1st> kinja-sheep, k,
[08:54] <justin22885> and i want to install a couple desktops and window managers to test drive my options
[08:54] <alankila> Monona: unfortunately, I know nothing about linux realtime options.
[08:54] <mrpink57> justin22885: an easier option to test might have been a VM
[08:55] <Monona> alankila:  Thanks!  I think I'm going to call it quits for now, and play some more tomorrow.
[08:55] <stdisease> alankila, now you just choose symlinks under /etc/alternatives
[08:55] <alankila> justin22885: you can easily try the xdm & see how it goes, but chances are there's nothing but username and password prompt
[08:55] <alankila> stdisease: oh joy :)
[08:55] <paotzu> justin22885: In all seriousness, you can use SLiM, Orthos, Enter, etc...
[08:55] <justin22885> i dont want a username and a password, id like my linux to just automatically log me in and leave me alone about it.. no one ever touches my laptop but me
[08:56] <obscurant1st> kinja-sheep, ki am not getting the .torrent files
[08:56] <mrpink57> paotzu: slim > all
[08:56] <alankila> justin22885: riiight. Well, you still want some kind of box where to select which desktop to boot. You can put username and password as 'x' if you like.
[08:56] <justin22885> alankila: xdm wont allow me to select a desktop?
[08:56] <alankila> justin22885: my guess is no
[08:57] <stdisease> justin22885, nope only through manipulation of files somewhere else
[08:57] <coldfire2122> does anyone have input on installing kde over ubuntu vs dual booting with kubuntu?
[08:57] <mrpink57> If I remember its just a login prompt like slim, but you could just setup what session yo would like in a .Xdefaults
[08:57] <stdisease> justin22885, for now stick with gdm or kdm if you want choice/eyecandy/autologin
[08:57] <peleg> stdisease, did you understand my problem?
[08:58] <alankila> coldfire2122: you can have ubuntu and kubuntu on same machine. It will look like kubuntu because kubuntu replaces the splash screens and so on, but both gnome and kde will be available as usual.
[08:58] <stdisease> coldfire2122, I'd just install kde on ubuntu
[08:58] <stdisease> heh, in fact it *will* be kubuntu
[08:59] <justin22885> ok.. ill go gdm for now, test drive the desktops, and when i find one i like ill remove gdm and set the script to automatically launch that one when i start up
[08:59] <titan_ark> anyone can help me with using crontab please?
[08:59] <coldfire2122> i was reading that installing both caused issues. you would sy otherwise?
[08:59] <paotzu> alankila: all you ahve to do to change that back without editing anything is dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:59] <almoxarife> its a mess ridding kde-desktop from gnome
[08:59] <sanderj> How do I choose to use an older kernel I just installed into 9.10 ?
[08:59] <alankila> justin22885: I have personally liked lxde almost over gnome -- it is what I use on this machine for instance.
[09:00] <admiral0_wrk> hi people
[09:00] <titan_ark> sanderj, it will show up in your grub, just select the older one
[09:00] <justin22885> whats the most configurable "window manager" out there? would that be flux?
[09:00] <paotzu> alankila: oh you are talking about the boot splash, nm
[09:00] <stdisease> justin22885, kde
[09:00] <alankila> paotzu: yes, that is not generally fixable/changeable.
[09:00] <sanderj> titan_ark, I want to make it boot with the older one by default.
[09:00] <admiral0_wrk> i saw efl interface for netbook remix. Is it open source?
[09:00] <stdisease> justin22885, but that's a whole desktop environment not just a window manager
[09:00] <justin22885> kde is a desktop environment, not a pure window manager
[09:00] <admiral0_wrk> i can't find the source
[09:01] <titan_ark> sanderj, not too sure about that
[09:01] <alankila> Hmm. How do I deal with /dev/md0 and grub2? I can't seem to tell grub2 what physical devices that corresponds to.
[09:01] <justin22885> im asking what is the most configurable window manager by itself
[09:01] <mrpink57> A commone one I see a kde with openbox for a window manager or fluxbox
[09:01] <sanderj> titan_ark, there is a new way.. with grub2.. dont know how.
[09:01] <mrpink57> justin22885: openbox since you start with nothing
[09:01] <titan_ark> sanderj, oh okay, sorry i have no clue
[09:01] <mrpink57> justin22885: unless you go to a tiling wm
[09:01] <sairam> Enter text here... help me i have problem with my audio i can hear any voice from it
[09:02]  * alankila hopes he doesn't have to make a /boot partition, but will do if that's what it takes
[09:02] <tking> I need to shrink an lvm volume in order to increase the size of others, but first I need to shrink the ext4 filesystem contained within offline and unmounted, what software do I use to accomplish this and will it be available in a single-user rescue shell?
[09:02] <sanderj> Anyone else know how to set default kernel to boot with in grub2?
[09:02] <bharatbobba> is shawnboy here?
[09:02] <justin22885> no, i dont want tiling, i want a WM i can start out with almost nothing.. then choose and plugin components like a file browser, desktop, taskbar, etc
[09:02] <meowbuntu> hi anyone used enlightment wm before i'm thinking of installing it
[09:02] <kinja-sheep> bharatbobba: I don't think so.
[09:02] <mrpink57> tking: gparted should be able to shrink a ext4
[09:03] <tking> mrpink57, I thought there were specific ext* specific tools, though.
[09:03] <alankila> with grub1 I could always just force it to use one of the disks as raw device, so with RAID1 it's not a problem to get a functional bootloader... but this grub2 is all scripted and doesn't seem to know how to deal with md
[09:03] <tking> mrpink57, a look through aptitude search shows nothing...
[09:03] <alankila> whatever. I'll just make a /boot to get past this problem
[09:03] <paotzu> alankila: you need newer version of grub2 I think?
[09:03] <tking> mrpink57, also I would have to use parted as I wouldn't have a GUI, just a text terminal. But that is fine... except it has to be available in the rescue shell.
[09:03] <stdisease> e2fsprogs works on ext4
[09:03] <mrpink57> tking: i have never personally resized a partition.  The only formats not resizable I know of are JFS, XFS, and maybe Resief
[09:04] <alankila> paotzu: never than is available in lucid?
[09:04] <tking> stdisease, e2fsprogs supports shrinking?
[09:04] <alankila> newer even
[09:04] <ouissam> goog morning world
[09:04] <peleg> Is there any other way of upgrading instead of using the GUI way, which is not working since I can't change the mirrors?
[09:04] <tking> mrpink57, that is fine as I am using ext4 + lvm2
[09:04] <mrpink57> peleg: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:04] <alankila> paotzu: no, the problem is not with grub2 itself, it's more to do with the automagic scripts that attempt to make the grub2 config
[09:04] <ouissam> anyone speaking french or spanish
[09:04] <peleg> mrpink57, thanks, I'll try that!
[09:04] <alankila> they don't have a clue how to deal with MD right now
[09:05] <mrpink57> peleg: I'd maybe do sudo apt-get update first
[09:05] <paotzu> alankila: oh, you don't mean doing grub-install /dev/md0
[09:05] <alankila> but it's not a problem, I have a plan.
[09:05] <alankila> paotzu: hmm, would that work? Will test immediately.
[09:05] <rww> ubottu: es | ouissam
[09:05] <koltroll> Sound Issue: I only get sound when changing output volume to 150%. Any idea on why that is?
[09:05] <alankila> paotzu: no, it fails. The scripts don't know how to deal with md0. That's the problem.
[09:06] <alankila> I'll try telling grub2 that (hd0) == /dev/md0, maybe that does it
[09:06] <justin22885> im setting up the package manager now.. then ill probably install gdm, then gnome, lxde, and fluxbox
[09:06] <alankila> no, it still doesn't work. Bummer.
[09:06] <bharatbobba> damn.... wanted to thank him...
[09:06] <fodder_> alinkaila, is this ubuntu 9.10
[09:06] <alankila> fodder_: 10.04
[09:07] <fodder_> is this the issue of grub altering the comand line from a uuid 23455 to a hdo/ style
[09:07] <justin22885> how would i go about using a compositing window manager with my computer? could i install compiz or beryl directly or does it need to run on top of something like gnome?
[09:07] <peleg> mrpink57, did both, in the order you recommended. I only get "0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert." -- and nothing after that.
[09:07] <alankila> And adding a partition to /dev/sda doesn't work of course ... the sda is used in md0 & kernel's too stupid to allow me to add new partitions without rebooting and I bet if I reboot now I can't boot the thing
[09:07] <alankila> *headdesk*
[09:07] <paotzu> there is no compiz/beryl, there is compiz fusion now
[09:08] <cnvl> When using TV-Out with nvidia's binary driver, my TV picture extends past the edges of my TV. How do I fix this?
[09:08] <fodder_> what i did was uninstal grub, then reinstal the old one  first
[09:08] <mrpink57> peleg: i do not know your language but it sounds like no updates with your mirrors, you can check the mirrorstatus and go from there I imagine.
[09:08] <justin22885> could i use compiz fusion as the standard window manager, and from there plugin the taskbar, desktop, and file browser?
[09:08] <fodder_> it fixes the issue and reconfigures itself b4 reboot
[09:08] <mrpink57> justin22885: compiz can be used as a stand alone
[09:08] <paotzu> justin22885: absolute
[09:08] <fodder_> then on update tell it to keep the old
[09:09] <peleg> mrpink57, well, I have changed "old-releases" to "releases", so I guess it might be the issue. I'll change it back and we'll see...
[09:09] <justin22885> maybe i will do that.. install compiz on its own then plug in components to that
[09:09] <paotzu> justin22885: try compiz-deskmenu
[09:10] <peleg> mrpink57, tried again. I have changed the mirrors, updated (update went fine), and then tried upgrading, but got nothing. What else should I check?
[09:10] <peleg> my sources are "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse" and so.
[09:11] <justin22885> what is compiz-deskmenu paotzu?
[09:11] <mrpink57> peleg: past that I got nothing, do you know for a fact there is an update?
[09:11] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a way to show the date and time the operating system been installed?
[09:11] <paotzu> justin22885: it is a generic program menu for compiz fusion that you can go in and edit what you want etc
[09:11] <justin22885> but it gives me no desktop with icons, or a taskbar, right?
[09:11] <peleg> mrpink57, well, yes. Update works great. also in aptitude.
[09:12] <titan_ark> hey everyone, could anyone help me out using crontab?
[09:12] <ardchoille> titan_ark: I can try
[09:12] <theadmin> titan_ark: Me too, ardchoille has learned me quite well someday :D
[09:12] <mrpink57> peleg: what do you mean it works great?
[09:13] <AdvoWork> is there a convertor type thing to change -rw-r----- to something else?
[09:13] <titan_ark> theadmin, ardchoille, iv been trying to use it to just try and run any application but not been successful
[09:13] <theadmin> titan_ark: What app exactly?
[09:14] <peleg> mrpink57, I mean that it has downloaded some stuff, and then summarized -- told me how long did it take, that it is reading the package list, and that it is finished. updating again does not downloading anything again. sounds ok, doesn't it?
[09:14] <ardchoille> titan_ark: Got a nice crontab tutorial for you: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html
[09:14] <titan_ark> theadmin, i basically want to use rsync, but just to see if i am getting it right, i tried creating a txt file or even running vncviewer, but nothing
[09:14] <theadmin> titan_ark: Hm, copy the crontab line you've set
[09:14] <jackbrown> hey can anybody helps me? I should stop a software from running on  the Start Machine
[09:14] <stdisease> titan_ark, is crontab running, and what have you typed in your crontab?
[09:14] <mrpink57> peleg: yea, sounds like you are updated and nothing is in the pipe.  Ubuntu repos are not exactly bleeding edge.
[09:14] <jackbrown> hello
[09:15] <stdisease> *is cron daemon running
[09:15] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yes, iv read the man and the ubuntu page on cron
[09:15] <jackbrown> Hello
[09:15] <titan_ark> theadmin, 57 12 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer > /home/titan_ark/cronlogs/testlog.log
[09:16] <titan_ark> stdisease, how do i check if its running?
[09:16] <stdisease> AdvoWork, those are permissions, you change them with something like the 'chmod' utility from the command line
[09:16] <stdisease> AdvoWork, or from the file manager, you right click the file and set permissions
[09:16] <peleg> mrpink57, so what can I do? Why upgrading does not work, without even giving any error message?
[09:17] <stdisease> titan_ark, 'service cron status'
[09:17] <sanderj> I tried to install a 2.6.18 kernel in 9.10.. and on bootup I got: error getting signalfd udevd .. I get dropped into a initramfs shell..
[09:17] <titan_ark> stdisease, cron start/running, process 1062
[09:17] <AdvoWork> if i do ls -all i can see file permissions like: -rw-r-----  is there a way to see what number that is? so i can then set chmod number file to match the -rw-r----- ?
[09:17] <peleg> mrpink57, I have switched to English. The last line is "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:17] <stdisease> titan_ark, or even 'pgrep cron' , or 'pidof cron' .. looks like it's running
[09:17] <sanderj> I cant see that /etc/default/grub exists.. how to I change the kernel back?
[09:17] <mrpink57> peleg: I think we're maybe understand two different things.  If your system is already up to date then nothing will happen.  As I asked before are you expecting a update?  Something you know is out of date?
[09:18] <sanderj> do I*
[09:18] <rww> g0tcha: if the directory /var/log/installer/ exists, you could look at the timestamp of the files in there. "ls -l /var/log/installer/" would do that.
[09:18] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Permission you specified is 620.
[09:18] <titan_ark> pgrep cron gives me 3 process ids!
[09:18] <CDlx> hi
[09:18] <iceroot> AdvoWork: r=4,w=2,x=1  r-x = r+x = 4+1 so its the number 5
[09:18] <peleg> mrpink57, I do not expect an update. I expect an UPGRADE. that is, an upgrade of my system to 8.04.
[09:19] <titan_ark> stdisease, theadmin what do you suggest i do next?
[09:19] <peleg> everything is up to date -- besides my Ubuntu itself :)
[09:19] <mrpink57> peleg: what are you on now?
[09:19] <stdisease> theadmin, 640 u mean rwx the order
[09:19] <peleg> mrpink57, 7.10
[09:19] <iceroot> AdvoWork: rwxr-x--- = (4+2+1) (4+0+1) (0+0+0) = chmod 750
[09:20] <theadmin> stdisease: Err, right. Keep messing them up. 640, yes
[09:20] <alankila> yeah, that laptop's a goner
[09:20] <AdvoWork> theadmin, ok, so what about drwxr-x---  would that be: 750?
[09:20] <g0tcha> rww, thanks that did it
[09:21] <theadmin> AdvoWork: 750... Yeah
[09:21] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i told you already
[09:21] <stdisease> AdvoWork, use stat <file> to find out the number
[09:21] <alankila> after removing the drive from the md, Linux flagged the entire device as unavailable, so I could no longer do anything with it, even add it back to multiple device. So I lost the functional boot sector. Thanks, linux md.
[09:21] <stdisease> AdvoWork, in case you can't figure it from the symbolic representation
[09:21] <theadmin> what is the Linux analog of DOS/Windows command "TYPE"? (print file contents to STDOUT)
[09:21] <jemark> peleg, 8.04 is old...
[09:21] <stdisease> theadmin, cat
[09:21] <theadmin> stdisease: Thanks
[09:21] <peleg> jemark, well, I have to upgrade step by step
[09:21] <iceroot> theadmin: cat filename
[09:22] <mrpink57> peleg: after doing a slight google it says do an update restart then do another update
[09:22] <Entelin> theadmin, also know about   tail and head
[09:22] <alankila> This "remove a partition from md and linux disables it completely" is one of the things I hate most about linux md. I have seen it before. I don't understand it.
[09:22] <AdvoWork> ive got: -rwxr-x---  1 zimbra zimbra    5 2010-02-19 09:06 test1.txt  and im doing chmod 750 test1.txt and its still: -rwxr-x---  1 zimbra zimbra    5 2010-02-19 09:06 test1.txt
[09:22] <jemark> peleg, where have u been the last few years, lol
[09:22] <peleg> mrpink57, ok, I'll try that. thanks.
[09:23] <stdisease> theadmin, if you also want to view the file (not just print to stdout) use 'less'
[09:23] <stdisease> theadmin, less is a pun on 'more' which is the original utility but that's probably too much trivia for the day
[09:23] <theadmin> stdisease: Yeah know about less/more/most, as well as "view" and "nano -v"
[09:23] <justin22885> whats the apt-get install for the xorg?
[09:24] <stdisease> justin22885, 'sudo apt-get install xorg' should do it I'd wager
[09:25] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[09:25] <stdisease> justin22885, if you can't figure out what package name, 'apt-cache search <keyword>'
[09:25] <RPG_Master> Well, I've screwed up my Grub. Now computer hangs at "Loading Grub..."   This is after a stop mid-way through a really long fsck. What did I do and how do I fix it?
[09:25]  * EvilDennisR is bored and here to answer luser questions!
[09:26] <justin22885> xorg is installing now... whats the command for the full gnome package though? not the ubuntu desktop, just gnome itself
[09:26] <kthomas_vh> !gnome
[09:26] <guntbert> AdvoWork: to my eyes that looks ok - 750=rwxr-x---, d=directory, what do you want to do?
[09:26] <ardchoille> justin22885: you need to learn to search the apt cache: apt-cache search -n gnome
[09:27] <alankila> If only I had had a foresight to partition a /boot partition when I made the partitions... But I thought I'll leave the space unpartitioned. *kicks himself*
[09:27] <EvilDennisR> justin22885: the ubuntu-desktop package is a wrapper package that requires all of the "gnome" packages
[09:27] <RPG_Master> So, any help?
[09:27] <titan_ark> ardchoille, could you give me an example of a working cron command?
[09:27] <LSD|Ninja> Anyone know how to make opera display flash content nder amd64? The plugin is installed (first thing I do after updating is alawys install the restricted-extras) and sounds is OK, I just get no picture. Any ideas?
[09:27] <titan_ark> mine does not seem to be working
[09:27] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: fsck fails?
[09:28] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree installed, yeah?
[09:28] <ardchoille> titan_ark:  00,30 * * * * echo "hi"  # that runs echo "hi" every half hour of every day
[09:28] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: What? After hard-killing my laptop mid-way through the fsck. So now I can't do anything without using a livecd.
[09:28] <LSD|Ninja> EvilDennisR: They installed as part of the restricted-extras afaik
[09:28] <LSD|Ninja> EvilDennisR: It also works fine in Arora
[09:28] <RPG_Master> fsck didn't fail, I failed :(
[09:28] <ardchoille> titan_ark: Did you read my crontab tutorial? it's written for new users
[09:28] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: not sure, I don't use opera, someone else will have to help you =(
[09:29] <AdvoWork> guntbert, basically i just want to make my test.txt file exactly the same as: drwxr-x---  6
[09:29] <anonymous> Thanks to ubuntu now my whole school use it everyday
[09:29] <stdisease> RPG_Master, lol, well you should probably finish the fsck run for the moment
[09:29] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: so, tell me the whole issue
[09:29] <EvilDennisR> anonymous++
[09:29] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yes i did. i am trying 57 12 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer > /home/amit/cronlogs/testlog.log doesnt seem to do anything
[09:29] <guntbert> AdvoWork: that is not possible - the first d means the entry is a directory and not a regular file
[09:29] <titan_ark> i have been changing the time to ah crap got it
[09:29] <justin22885> im going to go for now, ill be on later
[09:30] <titan_ark> wtf
[09:30] <stdisease> titan_ark, '>' is a shell construct
[09:30] <bmhm> hello there. Got an Issue with psi client. On startup it shows pictures of all gpg-keys, then it doesn't show my private key at all
[09:30] <AdvoWork> guntbert, sorry, i was being a mong
[09:30] <justin22885> before i go.. i just want to know what i need for pure, full gnome without the ubuntu stuff
[09:30] <mrpink57> titan_ark: do you have a gui option for crontab, for some CRAZY reason in Arch I do?!
[09:30] <guntbert> AdvoWork: np ;-)
[09:31] <EvilDennisR> justin22885: erm... maybe just install metacity? I'm sure that will require a bunch of gnome stuff
[09:31] <titan_ark> stdisease, so it wont work?
[09:31] <titan_ark> mrpink57, ah, no idea, quite a noob you see :P
[09:31] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: wtf you trying to do with vncviewer and cron?
[09:31] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: I really can't say any more details...
[09:31] <bharatbobba> I have a Dell studio 15. i changed the power management on battery when the lid is closed from suspend to blank screen but when i open the lid it hangs... whats the best setting?
[09:31] <wilson> why is it i can't change my resolution? every time i reboot, it keeps on coming back to its default
[09:31] <guntbert> !language | EvilDennisR
[09:31] <stdisease> titan_ark, I'd say not
[09:31] <RPG_Master> stdisease: How can I? Through a livecd?
[09:32] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: uh, well come on, what is the whole issue? You said "Blah, fsck failed" -- is that it??
[09:32] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, i am just trying to start it to check if i am doing it right, i want to actually use rsync
[09:32] <stdisease> RPG_Master, you can fsck with the livecd yes
[09:32] <EvilDennisR> You can't say wteff?! what the crap
[09:32] <stdisease> RPG_Master, pass it '-v' (verbose) args so that you see more detail
[09:32] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: This is your crontab, yeah? Not one in /etc/cron.d/ or something?
[09:32] <titan_ark> stdisease, but i saw it on the help page. to output a log
[09:33] <tasslehoff> I'm connecting to a server where I have another username. I have made sure the uid matches, but still have weird issues. Is it important that the gid matches as well?
[09:33] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, nope, i added this after doing a crontab -e
[09:33] <guntbert> EvilDennisR: exactly - and please stay polite too
[09:33] <ardchoille> titan_ark:  33 01 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 gnome-calculator
[09:33] <ardchoille> titan_ark: of course change the time
[09:34] <peleg> mrpink57, back to Earth; no change. I get the same results; no upgrade.
[09:34] <EvilDennisR> guntbert: I thought saying wteff _was_ being "nice", y'know, vs saying the complete acronym, but whatever..
[09:34] <mrpink57> peleg: sorry man but I dont have anymore answers, this is a big irc channel hope someone else can help.
[09:34] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Before that I was trying to upgrade my NVIDIA drivers... and junk went wrong :( I ran "sudo shutdown now" in the terminal, after waiting 10 minutes for it to shutdown completely I hard-killed it....
[09:34] <titan_ark> ardchoille, done and waiting, we seem to be on the same side of the globe :)
[09:34] <guntbert> EvilDennisR: no, we don't care for abbreviations of that kind either
[09:34] <wilson> why is it i can't change my resolution? every time i reboot, it keeps on coming back to its default
[09:35] <peleg> mrpink57, thanks :)
[09:35] <ardchoille> titan_ark: That crontab line works here
[09:35] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: \n is obviously a new line in your crontab: SHELL=/bin/sh\n DISPLAY=":0.0"\n 33 01 * * * gnome-calculator
[09:36] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: minus the whitespace after \n
[09:36] <titan_ark> ardchoille, worked for me too
[09:36] <guntbert> !guidelines > EvilDennisR
[09:36] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, dint quite get you
[09:36] <stdisease> EvilDennisR, some people are touchy, like 7 year olds today don't know how to curse already... it's best to just avoid altogether
[09:37] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Then once I turned it back on I got drop in the root shell repair thing. I ran fsck and got THOUSANDS of things it needed to fix. After sitting there for a whole 10 minutes with the "Y" key pressed down I gave up,  ctrl+c'd it and "shutdown now"'d
[09:37] <ardchoille> titan_ark: my command worked? you're good to go then :)
[09:37] <kemsiro> wilson, you have to write changes to xorg.conf
[09:37] <AdvoWork> how come, when im doing: zimbra@router:~/backup/sessions$ mv test1/ /home/ZimbraBackups/  mv: preserving times for `/home/ZimbraBackups/test1': Operation not permitted mv: preserving permissions for `/home/ZimbraBackups/test1': Operation not permitted   the file is created by the zimbra user, and im mv'ing it with the zimbra user..
[09:37] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: http://www.pidgin.im/nopaste/136
[09:38] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: And then came the "Loading Grub..." hang :(
[09:38] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yes it did, i wonder why i cant get xvnc4viewer to open! :P
[09:39] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: uh, welp, you should of ran fsck -y /dev/hd###
[09:39] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: ^Cing fsck is generally NOT a good idea..
[09:39] <wilson> kemsiro: failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf!
[09:39] <BusMaster> i installed acrobat reader and it has taken over firefox, which uses it to show pdf's within the browser, even though the firefox setting is set to "ask me" for pdf files. how do I fix this?
[09:39] <kemsiro> wilson, edit it with sudo privilege
[09:40] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, sorry, but i am new to this, what exactly does the SHELL = ... do? i dint understand the meaning of what you posted?
[09:40] <kinja-sheep> BusMaster: Look in Firefox setting. Under Applications.
[09:40] <Milos_SD> Hi
[09:40] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Well, now I know... What do now? :(
[09:40] <ardchoille> titan_ark: You don't really need that
[09:40] <Milos_SD> Am I the only one who is having very slow speeds when downloading from the main repo?
[09:40] <wilson> kemsiro: how? new user, sorry
[09:40] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: did you boot up a live-cd and run fsck -y on the drive?
[09:40] <kemsiro> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <guntbert> AdvoWork: mv: preserving... cannot be part of the command
[09:41] <BusMaster> kinja-sheep, Edit->preferences->Applications shows "PDF Document" set to "Always Ask"
[09:41] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Not yet... didn't know I could fsck from a livecd :/
[09:41] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yeah thats true. and how can i output the log of the command that is run to a file? wont the "> pathname" work?
[09:41] <RPG_Master> Will do now.
[09:41] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: SHELL= just specifies what shell is used
[09:41] <jofo> Hello. I remember I’ve been able, with Ubuntu, to type braille characters (from the block U+2800-U+28FF Braille Patterns) by using the keys ASDF JKL; as with a Perkins machine. There’s a keyboard driver for that purpose (in the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/brai), but I can’t remember how to activate it. Does anybody have an idea?
[09:41] <BusMaster> kinja-sheep, but it doesn't ask..it just opens the pdf in acrobat within the browser
[09:41] <peleg> I need help here. All I want is to upgrade from my very old 7.10 to another old version: 8.04. Nothing works. Any advice?
[09:41] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, ah okay
[09:42] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: make sure you run fsck on the correct partition that was having the issue, and not just /dev/hda (or whatever your drive is)
[09:42] <jofo> If I use setxkbmap brai, I won’t be able to go back to the other keyboard layouts listed in System>Preference>Keyboard>Layouts. Then I rather look for a mean to add it to that layout list. Unfortunately, those drivers are classified by countries or by language, and it seems nothing has been planned for braille.
[09:43] <shashwat> Hi! what's up?
[09:43] <kryl> hi
[09:43] <EvilDennisR> !hi > shashwat
[09:43] <EvilDennisR> !hi > kryl
[09:43] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Well, my hard drive only has a main partition and a swap partition. So do I just stick in an Ubuntu livecd, open a terminal and then type fsck?
[09:43] <wilson> kemsiro: there are ony 8 lines
[09:43] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: IDE or scsi drive?
[09:44] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: should be fsck -y /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1 if its scsi
[09:44] <ardchoille> titan_ark: the ">" works here too
[09:44] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: ...the kinda drive a 2008 laptop would have :P
[09:44] <RPG_Master> I don't know
[09:44] <RPG_Master> I think /dev/hda1
[09:44] <titan_ark> ardchoille, okay shall try that. trying an rsync now.
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: fsck will not do anything if its not the right drive specified
[09:45] <kemsiro> wilson, i used nvidia driver. i don't know what ur using. in my case, in order to use the resolution 1024x768, i specified it in "screen" section with Option         "metamodes" "1024x768 +0+0"
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: so its one or the other =)
[09:45] <RPG_Master> ok
[09:45] <RPG_Master> :P
[09:45] <titan_ark> ardchoille, wohooo the rsync works!!!
[09:45] <Xintruder> Hi
[09:45] <titan_ark> ardchoille, now time for trying the log file =)
[09:46] <EvilDennisR> !hi > Xintruder
[09:46] <ardchoille> titan_ark: 44 01 * * * ls /home/ardchoille > /home/ardchoille/test.txt  # this worked fine
[09:46] <wilson> kemsiro: 1280x1024
[09:47] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: how is that crontab not working? You know that cron gets run every minute, and if you've specified the minute that you're in, it won't run -- yeah?
[09:47] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: and you have to exit the editor you're in so crontab can check in your crontab -- yeah?
[09:48] <wilson> kemsiro: ection "Screen"
[09:48] <wilson> 	Identifier	"Configured Screen Device"
[09:48] <wilson> 	DefaultDepth	24
[09:48] <wilson> EndSection
[09:48] <wilson> Section "Device"
[09:48] <wilson> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[09:48] <FloodBot1> wilson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <peleg> Documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades -- does not help.
[09:48] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, I am always trying to run something after a 2 minute wait and i close the editor after making the edit
[09:48] <kemsiro> wilson, yup in Screen section
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: you know its  m h  dom mon dow for the crontab, yeah ?
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: minute, hour, day of month, month, day of week
[09:49] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yes the txt file was successfully created =) now i need to figure out how not to wipe out the contents of the file and ensure all data goind from new line
[09:49] <wilson> kemsiro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379633/
[09:49] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, :) yes i do
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: paste me your crontab again
[09:50] <ardchoille> titan_ark: use ">>" instead of ">", for append instead of overwrite
[09:50] <hrwath> hello
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> titan_ark: > will overwrite the file, >> will append to the file
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> !hi > hrwath
[09:50] <hrwath> anyone uses komodo for editing?
[09:50] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, its working now, just that its unanble to run the vncviewer but it does what i need
[09:50] <jackbrown> IS THERE anybody available to HELP ME ?
[09:50] <davidekholm> Hi. I'm the founder of Jalbum (http://jalbum.net). We've just adopted our web photo album software for Ubuntu
[09:51] <titan_ark> ardchoille, EvilDennisR oh okay cool! thanks will try that
[09:51] <hrwath> my right alt key, right super and left super acts like left arrow
[09:51] <jackbrown> davide sei ITALIANO ?
[09:51] <davidekholm> I wonder if anyone here can provide me guidance on how to get Jalbum into Ubuntu's "Ubuntu Software Center"
[09:51] <ardchoille> davidekholm: /join #ubuntu-motu
[09:51] <peleg> I just can't upgrade. I am stuck with 7.10. Forever.
[09:51] <ardchoille> !motu
[09:51] <Myrtti> !it | jackbrown
[09:52] <bmhm> An kopete-issue: when I use jabber for ICQ transport, I cannot put my contacts into groups. is this a limitation of my transport service or a limitation of kopete?
[09:52] <jackbrown> Myrtti i want to speak english to i need HELP
[09:52] <jackbrown> Myrtti can u help me ?
[09:52] <wilson> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[09:53] <ngirard> Hi folks. Sorry for this off-topic question. Do you know of any extension that would allow me to select an arbitrary rectangular selection in a page and save it as html ?
[09:53] <jackbrown> Hi there i  have a program that starts when the system starts how can i stop that ?
[09:53] <brummbaer> ngirard: firebug's the closest i can think of...
[09:54] <user23> hi, how can i make changes to my xorg.cfg file ? user mode wont lemme write
[09:54] <brummbaer> it let's you view source, and as you mouse over the page it'll highlight the relevant code section in firebug
[09:54] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: update-rc.d remove -f whateverprogram
[09:54] <ngirard> Hi brummbaer, and thanks for your suggestion. I'll check this out right now !
[09:55] <Ravikant> !GNOME | tuxattack
[09:55] <ardchoille> user23: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  # but be VERY careful with that
[09:55] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: oops, my bad update-rc.d -f whateverprogram remove
[09:55] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: I always type it backwards
[09:55] <brummbaer> :D enjoy ngirard, that and noscript are my favorite plugins
[09:55] <wilson> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! <--- im getting this error while saving after i change my resolution
[09:55] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: whateverprogram is the name of the program thats getting run thats in /etc/init.d/
[09:55] <ngirard> brummbaer: ... let aside adblock, of course !
[09:56] <jackbrown> update-rc.d -f <whateverprogram> remove
[09:56] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: ...I'm assuming you mean a service, and not something that gets started by metacity, yeah?
[09:56] <jackbrown> i this the command to remove the program from the start list
[09:56] <jackbrown> EvilDennisR it's TOR
[09:56] <jackbrown> EvilDennisR do you know it ?
[09:56] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: negative
[09:56] <brummbaer> ngirard: excellent point. :D
[09:57] <jackbrown> http://www.torproject.org/index.html.en
[09:57] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: ...sooo, is it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[09:57] <titan_ark> EvilDennisR, ardchoille thanks a ton it works
[09:58] <ardchoille> titan_ark: yw :)
[09:58] <titan_ark> ardchoille, would you know why the vncviewer dint work?
[09:58] <jackbrown> EvilDennisR yes it's in there  i found a file called TOR in that directory
[09:58] <jackbrown> EvilDennisR gksudo nautilus   > then cancel that file ?
[09:58] <ardchoille> titan_ark: no idea. Does xvnc4viewer need switches?
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: so run the update-rc.d command like I said, and that will stop it from getting started when you rmachine boots up
[09:59] <titan_ark> ardchoille, no idea :D how about opening a text file in gedit? even that dint work for me!
[09:59] <user23> ardchoille , 10x!
[09:59] <jackbrown> EvilDennisR i already did that but the program is still running i suppose that this is normal cos i will not start whe the machine will start again. Correct ?
[09:59] <ardchoille> user23: yw :)
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> jackbrown: Yeah, you can stop it with /etc/init.d/toswhatever stop
[10:00] <dinosaurvskitten> any recommendations for a tool that would automagically upload my digital camera's videos to youtube? I don't really feel like tweaking mencoder settings by hand...
[10:00] <ardchoille> titan_ark: 00 02 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 gedit  ?
[10:00] <Petein> hi. i want a program to be able to share my screen with more than 1 people. Like skype lets you have a conversation with more than 2 people at the same time. any ideas?
[10:01] <syrius> why wasn't ubuntu added the open source broadcom drivers?
[10:01] <titan_ark> ardchoille, hmmm i was trying to use it to create a file at a particular path and open up also :P
[10:01] <enkidu> hi there
[10:02] <anglewings> broadcom.com
[10:02] <ardchoille> titan_ark: 00 02 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 touch /path/file && gedit /path/file
[10:02] <ngirard> brummbaer: after an extensive (and boring) search among firefox extensions, here's my take: ScrapBook https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/427
[10:02] <anglewings> have driver for ubuntu
[10:02] <peleg> please, someone? I really need help upgrading ubuntu...
[10:03] <enkidu> I have problem. On my ubuntu / kubuntu (not relevant) udev is not starting before mountall, so I have to start it manually every time, I am booting
[10:03] <syrius> why wasn't ubuntu added this http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/
[10:03] <ardchoille> titan_ark: actually, you don't need to do that, you can just "gedit" and then choose where to save the file when closing
[10:03] <EvilDennisR> peleg: from 7.10 or something you said ?
[10:03] <syrius> doesn't ubuntu not care for open source drivers?
[10:03] <anglewings> apt-get update
[10:03] <nathan7> They do.
[10:03] <syrius> does*
[10:03] <titan_ark> aha! the && was missing! and what is the 'touch' for?
[10:03] <bmhm> An kopete-issue: when I use jabber for ICQ transport, I cannot put my contacts into groups. is this a limitation of my transport service or a limitation of kopete?
[10:03] <peleg> EvilDennisR, yes, to 8.04
[10:03] <anglewings> you can upgrading yourself ubuntu
[10:03] <ikonia> peleg: you have to go through each version, eg: 7.10->8.04->8.10->9.04->etc
[10:03] <syrius> then why is it no in the repository?
[10:03] <ardchoille> titan_ark: touch file = create file
[10:03] <titan_ark> ardchoille, hmm got that
[10:03] <peleg> ikonia, I know
[10:03] <ardchoille> titan_ark: actually, you don't need to do that, you can just "gedit" and then choose where to save the file when closing
[10:04] <ikonia> peleg: ok - so what's the issue ?
[10:04] <syrius> http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/ is open source driver for broadcom wifi cards
[10:04] <EvilDennisR> peleg: update-manager doesn't have a upgrade thing on there? Or is that busted
[10:04] <titan_ark> ardchoille, yup got it =) thx a bunch!!!
[10:04] <syrius> ubuntu needs to add it to its repository
[10:04] <ardchoille> titan_ark: gedit opens with an empty file be default, you can just save it when closing and forego the "touch" command
[10:04] <ikonia> syrius: no it doesn't
[10:04] <syrius> it works great on my card
[10:04] <enkidu> syrius, you can package it ;)
[10:04] <ikonia> syrius: it's very early and not very stable
[10:04] <syrius> yes it is
[10:04] <syrius> I use it everyday
[10:04] <ikonia> syrius: wow - your card works, so it's stable
[10:04] <syrius> it works great with my card
[10:04] <peleg> following the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades did not help -- it halts every time with an error message. Someone here adviced using apt-get upgrade, but that does nothing.
[10:05] <rww> ubottu: wfm | syrius
[10:05] <syrius> for some cards it doesn't work well
[10:05] <syrius> for mine it is stable
[10:05] <peleg> EvilDennisR, it has, but it does not work.
[10:05] <syrius> some other cards it isn't so stable
[10:05] <ikonia> syrius: it needs to mature (most probably)
[10:05] <titan_ark> ardchoille, cool. now i can set up my back up everyday and a popup when its done :P next thing to do is for me to figure out how to backup to an online server! this is fun
[10:05] <ikonia> syrius: ok, so that's why it's probably not included at this time
[10:05] <enkidu> syrius: package it, call for testing repository
[10:05] <ikonia> peleg: what's the error message
[10:05] <enkidu> or rather "experimental"
[10:05] <anglewings> how to delete KDE
[10:06] <syrius> it is in the trisquel distro by default
[10:06] <ikonia> syrius: so ?
[10:06] <brummbaer> nice find ngirard, that looks lots more managable.
[10:06] <ardchoille> titan_ark: Keep that attitude :)
[10:06] <syrius> it works automatically when I bootup from it
[10:06] <ikonia> syrius: you're ussing ubuntu - it's not in this distro at this time
[10:06] <enkidu> anglewings: remove kdelibs5
[10:06] <syrius> yes I know that
[10:06] <EvilDennisR> peleg: So, heres a total hack: make a live-cd, boot it up, use gparted and resize your drive so you have two partitions, one for / and one for /home -- /home being the bigger size -- then install 8.04 (or whatever) onto the smaller partition, and use the other as /home
[10:06] <syrius> trisquel is based on ubuntu though ikonia
[10:06] <ikonia> syrius: again - so ?
[10:06] <obscurant1st> i installed backtrack without installing a bootloader, but i had ubuntu 9.10 in my system with grub2, but after installing backtrack 4 now it says grub loading error: unknown filesystem
[10:06] <syrius> just letting you know
[10:06] <ikonia> syrius: ubuntu developers have chosen not to include it at this time
[10:07] <obscurant1st> somebody pls help me!
[10:07] <syrius> :(
[10:07] <wilson> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! <--- im getting this error while saving after i change my resolution
[10:07] <peleg> ikonia, "A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry." and then a list containing lines like "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[10:07] <anglewings> thank you
[10:07] <ardchoille> titan_ark: you might want to look into "zenity", it makes nice popup messages and is configurable. I think it's in the repos
[10:07] <ikonia> peleg: have you changed your sources.list file to point to hardy ?
[10:07] <EvilDennisR> wilson: you the one who pastbin that xorg.conf earlier ?
[10:07] <ikonia> peleg: as 8.04 is not on the old-releases server
[10:07] <titan_ark> ardchoille, iv had enough of giving up when things dont work the first few times. its time for a complete migration from windows :D
[10:07] <titan_ark> ardchoille, ah cool shall check it out
[10:08] <wilson> EvilDennisR: yes
[10:08] <peleg> ikonia, my sources file has lines like that: "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:08] <EvilDennisR> wilson: Was that you're _entire_ xorg.conf ??
[10:08] <ikonia> peleg: did YOU change your sources.list file ?
[10:08] <ardchoille> titan_ark: install zenity and then read the man page, there are some examples there.. you'll like it :)
[10:08] <wilson> EvilDennisR: yes, thats my entire xorg
[10:08] <ikonia> peleg: hardy (8.04) is NOT on the old-releases.ubuntu.com server - so did you change that to point at hardy ?
[10:08] <peleg> ikonia, no, there was a question on the process asking me "yes/no", where yes means that the file will be changed.
[10:09] <EvilDennisR> wilson: You need more stuff than that dude!
[10:09] <EvilDennisR> wilson: copy that stuff somewhere, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:09] <EvilDennisR> wilson: then paste in your stuff accordingly
[10:09] <ikonia> peleg: ok - well, there is your problem, hardy is not on the old-releases.ubuntu.com server as it's a current release
[10:09] <AdvoWork> ive got exec > /home/Scripts/script_log.log 2>&1 in a .sh file, whats that do?
[10:10] <peleg> ikonia, I have tried to change "old-releases" to "releases" manually (as someone here suggested), but it did not help.
[10:10] <ikonia> peleg: that's not a valid server
[10:10] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: exec??
[10:10] <peleg> oh.
[10:10] <ikonia> peleg: actually - it is valid
[10:11] <AdvoWork> EvilDennisR, does that write all output to script_log.log?
[10:11] <peleg> oh.
[10:11] <ikonia> peleg: change it to releases.ubuntu.com and do a "sudo apt-get update"
[10:11] <ripdisk> can someone do me a favor and tell me if they can connect via ssh to 173.58.38.39
[10:11] <ikonia> peleg: ahh, sorry, it's not valid, my mistake
[10:11] <ikonia> ripdisk: please don't ask for that sort of thing
[10:11] <ardchoille> ikonia: that's not valid for packages is it?
[10:11] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: Yeah, but typically you should replace exec with some other program
[10:11] <ikonia> ardchoille: I know, just noticed
[10:11] <wilson> EvilDennisR: after sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:11] <ardchoille> ok
[10:12] <wilson> EvilDennisR: next step please
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> wilson: add in DefaultDepth24
[10:12] <ikonia> peleg: you need to point your sources.list at a valid ubuntu repository server
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> wilson: to the screen section, and nvidia to the device section
[10:12] <AdvoWork> Evil_DuDe, its a script im writing and putting as a cronjob, so i need to see the output of whats happening, any suggestions instead of exec then?
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> wilson: the stuff you had in pastebin was correct -- You just didn't have anything else that X needs to run
[10:12] <ardchoille> ikonia: can he just use archive.ubuntu.com  ?
[10:12] <ikonia> ardchoille: don't see why not, I think that's even load balanced too
[10:13] <ardchoille> yeah
[10:13] <peleg> ikonia, like "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" ?
[10:13] <ripdisk> ikonia: it's my ip
[10:13] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: You know, if you type in evil and then hit tab, it will autocomplete my name
[10:13] <ikonia> peleg: that's perfect
[10:13] <ikonia> ripdisk: great, so you can test it yourself
[10:13] <ripdisk> ikonia: i'm trying to test something, i can't connect to my own ip but someone else said that they were able to
[10:13] <ripdisk> and i'd like a second oppinion..
[10:13] <AdvoWork> EvilDennisR, sorry, any suggestions
[10:14] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: * * * * someprogram > /home/advowork/output 2>&1
[10:14] <ikonia> ripdisk: http://www.websitepulse.com/help/tools.php
[10:14] <wilson> EvilDennisR: sorry, don't what to do...
[10:14] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: That will be your crontab
[10:14] <wilson> EvilDennisR: sorry, don't know what to do...
[10:14] <EvilDennisR> wilson: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <Krewl> Good morning, anyone available with expertise on migrating PostGreSQL from 8.2 to 8.3 after a gutsy --> hardy upgrade
[10:14] <ripdisk> ikonia: i'm trying to test ssh in specific.
[10:15] <illyume> Guhhh
[10:15] <ikonia> ripdisk: yes, so use that tool to test port 22
[10:15] <enkidu> so... anyone know, why init is not starting udev before mountall?
[10:15] <EvilDennisR> wilson: Then add in the stuff you had pasted in pastebin -- Don't just paste it in blindly, ADD the lines that are missing to the correct sections
[10:15] <illyume> I'm having SUCH a freaking hard time connecting my windows mobile phone to Ubuntu....
[10:15] <Krewl> Update went simple with apt-get dist upgrade after chaning sources.list
[10:15] <ardchoille> peleg: but the security packages need to be security.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <ikonia> ardchoille: nice spot
[10:15] <ardchoille> ty
[10:15] <Krewl> So now I have an empty postgres 8.3 and a still running 8.2 postgres DB with my data
[10:16] <wilson> EvilDennisR: Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[10:16] <peleg> ardchoille, thanks
[10:16] <ripdisk> ikonia: that is very very helpful, thank you so frickin much
[10:16] <EvilDennisR> WHAT
[10:16] <AdvoWork> EvilDennisR, whats 2>&1 opens 2 for redirection, dont get that
[10:16] <EvilDennisR> AdvoWork: 2>&1 means redirect error output to the stdoutput
[10:16] <EvilDennisR> wilson: How the hell did you get that error? sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <peleg> ikonia, now, sudo apt-get update gives me "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:17] <Krewl> xorg.conf is just a textfile
[10:17] <ardchoille> !gksudo | Evil_DuDe wilson
[10:17] <ikonia> ripdisk: your welcome
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> peleg: Thats because 7.10 isn't supported anymore =(
[10:17] <ikonia> EvilDennisR: he's upgraded to 8
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> hurray!
[10:18] <ardchoille> Evil_DuDe: sorry, that was meant for EvilDennisR
[10:18] <peleg> ikonia, should I apt-get upgrade withput updating, then?
[10:18] <ardchoille> peleg: update first
[10:18] <ikonia> peleg: no, update
[10:18] <EvilDennisR> I just assume everyone is typing commands into a terminal
[10:18] <peleg> but I can't update :(
[10:18] <EvilDennisR> ikonia: He's _trying_ to upgrade to 8.04 I thought
[10:18] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: still needs gksudo, even in term
[10:18] <peleg> EvilDennisR, I am
[10:18] <ripdisk> so ikonia, with that being said, the connection is working... is there any reason why i wouldn't be able to connect to my own public IP?
[10:19] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: says who!
[10:19] <ripdisk> but the tests come out OK
[10:19] <GABBAR> hey guys, i just installed karmic my wireless is working great on gnome, but i just installed e17, wireless doesn't seem to work any ideas ?
[10:19] <ardchoille> !gksudo > EvilDennisR
[10:19] <wilson> EvilDennisR: the content of my xorg.conf is just the same with the content of the pastebin
[10:19] <anglewings> any body help me install desktop not kde
[10:20] <Krewl> No one for this one:  anyone available with expertise on migrating PostGreSQL from 8.2 to 8.3 after a gutsy --> hardy upgrade
[10:20] <alankila> GABBAR: e17 doesn't start network manager applet would be my guess, so you don't get a connection.
[10:20] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: Right, but sudo gedit still works..
[10:20] <peleg> ardchoille, when I have old-releases... I can update, but can't upgrade. to upgrade, I need to change old-releases to us.archive (for example) -- but then I can't update. How do I fix that loop?
[10:20] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: Are you going by what you know, or just from what you've heard in here?
[10:20] <GABBAR> alankila, k lemme try starting it
[10:21] <jmmmp> Hi, am new here. May I pose a question about audio? Somehow I made my headset microphone to sound always distorted. do you know how to restore audio settings to the default? thinkpad, jaunty, alsa+oss
[10:21] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: please provide proper advice, that means gksudo for gui apps and sudo for cli apps only. You can do whatever yoiu want with your system
[10:21] <EvilDennisR> wilson: ...did you run the dpkg command first?
[10:21]  * alankila thinks e17, and all the other window managers / des are mostly just a failfest. The open source community can barely make one thing work well if they try very hard: having a 10 different options practically guarantees no one of them will work.
[10:21] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: if you would read the page ubottu posted, you'd know why
[10:21] <GABBAR> alankila, ermm how i start the network manager applet manualy ?
[10:22] <wilson> EvilDennisR: yes , sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:22] <alankila> GABBAR: I just hinted at the answer: not worth finding out. Just use GNOME :)
[10:22] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: You didn't answer my question -- sudo gedit still works if you're running it in a terminal -- I _DID_ read that page, it only says its an issue for firefox and other applications, NOT for something like gedit
[10:22] <GABBAR> alankila, i wanna use e17,
[10:22] <alankila> GABBAR: but if you are adventurous, try "nm-applet" from command line. It either starts or fails.
[10:22] <EvilDennisR> wilson: ..and only what you had in pastebin is in there?
[10:22] <ikonia> ripdisk: firewall, not listening on the right network config etc, test it with ssh localhost make sure it's actually responding ok
[10:22] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: please provide proper advice, that means gksudo for gui apps and sudo for cli apps only. You can do whatever you want with your system
[10:23] <alankila> GABBAR: or maybe it's called network-manager-applet or Network-Manager-applet. I'm not quite sure what they call that little thing.
[10:23] <wilson> EvilDennisR: ya, same content
[10:23] <GABBAR> nm-applet it is
[10:23] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: feel free to discuss this with the ops in #ubuntu-ops, it's channel policy
[10:23] <AdvoWork> I've got a cronjob running as: /home/Scripts/zimbra_full_backup.sh /home/Scripts/zimbra_full_backup_log.log 2>&1  running as the zimbra user(it must), and get the error: Error occurred: system failure: Unable to create directory /home/ZimbraBackups/tmp/full-20100219.102035.713/sys  any ideas why?  what permissions should /home/ZimbraBackups/ have in order to allow me to make any dir or sub dir?
[10:23] <Logicwax> anyone here good with raid arrays?
[10:23] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: So you can't actually answer my question..
[10:23] <Logicwax> got a bad situation here, that i keep reading such conflicting info about on the messageboards
[10:23] <GABBAR> alankila, well i guess its running, but since i can't see it anywhere hehehe
[10:23] <LSD|Ninja> How do I remove the executable bit from a bunch of files copied from an NTFS partition while retaining it on the directories?
[10:23] <alankila> GABBAR: if it starts, then good. You can probably force it to start somehow at beginning of session. If it doesn't work, you're probably out of luck with respect to that.
[10:23] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: it's channel policy <-- your answer
[10:24] <alankila> GABBAR: and I state again: don't use e17. It's stupid.
[10:24] <nibbler> !anyone | Logicwax
[10:24] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: chmod -x
[10:24] <alankila> Not supported. Nonsense. Just wastes time.
[10:24] <GABBAR> alankila hmm
[10:24] <Logicwax> well i just didnt want to interrupt with lots of lines
[10:24] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: You should join #guifications and check our their channel policy
[10:24] <GABBAR> alankila, ok, can ya help me on a related topic ?/
[10:24] <Logicwax> hoping someone can help me before i screw up my data
[10:24] <Logicwax> I'm running Karmic koala....and i also have a raid5 softarray using a cheap silicon image sata pci card
[10:24] <nibbler> AdvoWork, the directory and all subs should belong to its user
[10:24] <LSD|Ninja> EvilDennisR: Won'tthat remove it from directoriwes as well, or has it grown some brains since the last time I needed to do this?
[10:24] <GABBAR> alankila, if i don't wanna use nm=applet for using my wireless on gnome, what are the alternatives ?
[10:25] <Logicwax> 3x 1.5TB disks in the array.    well one of the drives failed
[10:25] <nibbler> Logicwax, thats why you should put it all in one line
[10:25] <alankila> By the way, is e17 the enlightenment version they've been working on for at least 5 years? Or is it more now?
[10:25] <Logicwax>  I originally made the array by going into the RAID setup util on bootup (the bios inside the raid card) and setting up a raid5 array......ubuntu automatically mapped it to a /dev/mapper address, in fact here was the line from my fstab
[10:25] <GABBAR> alankila, i tried wicd on gnome, it detected by wireless, but never connected, it authenticated etc. but always got stuck on the getting ip address part
[10:25] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: chmod -R -x directory/ should ignore directories... but now that you say that, I'm not 100% on that =)
[10:25] <GABBAR> alankila, hehe no idea
[10:25] <Logicwax> "/dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc /media/vanix               ext4    defaults       1 2"
[10:25] <tpp> Hi I run a small network of ubuntu karmic computers and I came in this morning and one of them had hung. Looking in the logs I found someone (or a script i guess) had tried to log into the machine via SSH with  many different user names and then suddenly the machine died. The other machines on the network also experienced the same attack but did not die. I'm trying to find out why this individual machine died and not the other - can anyone suggest something?
[10:25] <alankila> GABBAR: wicd, or somehow configure nm-applet to start the connection even when the applet isn't running. It's possible somehow, but I don't know the tools too well
[10:26] <GABBAR> alankila, i tried wicd on gnome, it detected by wireless, but never connected, it authenticated etc. but always got stuck on the getting ip address part
[10:26] <Logicwax>  so one of the drives failed....and now all I see in the left column in a gnome folder window is "raid5 array" and when i click on it, it asks "do you want to mount this array in degraded mode?".  I click yes, but nothing happens.  my question to anyone who can help is:  ive read I need to re-create an array using mdadm.   I want to know if this will totally wipe my data
[10:26] <LSD|Ninja> EvilDennisR: I'll give it a shot, I can always recopy them from the source (mounting it with a sane umask/dirmask)...
[10:26] <Shogoot> Heres a intresting question ;)  Any way to find out when a hotmail.com account was created? I know it was 90' sometime, but it would be cool to find out the excact date. Any suggestions how i can find this out?
[10:26] <alankila> GABBAR: well, tells all about how well linux stuff works. There's generally only one thing that works (which is what everyone else is doing). Step outside that, and you're mostly on your own.
[10:26] <theadmin> Hmph. I accidentally disabled wireless, now re-enabled and it hangs on "Device not ready"
[10:26] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: looks like it -x directories too
[10:26] <AdvoWork> nibbler, what do you mean, im running the cronjob as the zimbra user, so what do i have todo with the destination dir?
[10:26] <nibbler> Logicwax, i'd guess you dont have a mdadm array before, but a fakeraid. you need rais utils of your motherboard to handle this
[10:27] <nibbler> AdvoWork, chown zimbra /home/zimbra -R
[10:27] <LSD|Ninja> EvilDennisR: That's what I thought. I used to have a script for this, but it's in a book that's 100km away right now >_<
[10:27] <Logicwax> nibbler: not part of my mobo...its a addon card i got
[10:27] <Logicwax> also to add, if I type "mdadm --examine /dev/sde"  I see that is disk 1/3 in the raid5 array.   and if I change it to "/dev/sdf" I see that is disk 0 in the array
[10:27] <nibbler> Logicwax, ah ok, then of the addon card! there is tools for stuff like this, but it is not mdadm if its a real raid (also fakeraid is not mdadm)
[10:27] <theadmin> nibbler, AdvoWork, rather sudo chown zimbra:zimbra /home/zimbra -R
[10:28] <wilson> EvilDennisR: whats seems to be wrong with my system?
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: You could do something like for x in `find`; do if [ !-d $x ]; then chmod -x $x; done
[10:28] <Logicwax> oh its not a real raid
[10:28] <neure> hi
[10:28] <Logicwax> its one of those $30 cheapy silicon image softraids
[10:28] <neure> anyone know a channel where to ask about freetype?
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> LSD|Ninja: (double check that if statment, I think its wrong -d is directory)
[10:28] <neure> i dont seem to find a font that would have any kerning info :/
[10:29] <wilson> EvilDennisR: whats seems to be the problem with my system?
[10:29] <EvilDennisR> wilson: ?? mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/ -- then try dpkg --reconfig again
[10:29] <nibbler> Logicwax, ah okays, for that you sould not use a extra controller at all, but rather make linux handle it completely. ok, if it is mdadm raid, then try to strat it in degraded manually and hot-add a new/the old device?
[10:29] <EvilDennisR> ugh, it's almost 5:30
[10:29] <Flipz> I need help with my wireless card...
[10:29] <peleg> ok, so I am back to the start point. Ubuntu, for some reason, does not offer me any possible known way to upgrade from 7.10 at the moment... so it practically means I am stuck with 7.10 forever :)
[10:30] <Flipz> well actually, I need help getting wireless to work on ubuntu
[10:30] <Logicwax> nibbler: well the hdd failed tonight.  this will probably take about 2 weeks to get it replaced.  in the meantime, I'd like to access my data with the other 2 disks left
[10:30] <wilson> EvilDennisR: ok its emty
[10:30] <wilson> EvilDennisR: ok its empty
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> peleg: Repartition your stuff!
[10:30] <nibbler> peleg, just reinstall 9.10 - save your home beforeand thats it
[10:30] <Flipz> can someone PM me with support, I wanna get my wireless working on ubuntu.
[10:30] <cnf> anyone know how to switch desktops while vbox is running full screen?
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> wilson: you mean the dpkg command gave you an empty xorg.conf file?
[10:30] <theadmin> Flipz: It'd be better to ask on channel
[10:30] <Flipz> srys?
[10:30] <LaireTM> Hello,  whe I start my Ubuntu Netbook i see only my Desktop but no menu or something else
[10:30] <ardchoille> !pm | Flipz
[10:30] <Logicwax> nibbler: and like i said, it wasnt made in mdadm originally.   it was created in the card's bios utility upon startup...and ubuntu automatically mapped it to /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc
[10:30] <wilson> EvilDennisR: yes
[10:30] <Flipz> K...
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> wilson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[10:31] <Flipz> I wanna get my wireless network card to work on ubuntu
[10:31] <Flipz> I have that program...ndwiswrapper or something
[10:31] <theadmin> LaireTM: I think the problem is panel died. Hit alt+f2, type gnome-panel, hit enter
[10:31] <Flipz> but I dunno how 2 install it
[10:31] <wilson> EvilDennisR: yes
[10:31] <peleg> EvilDennisR, nibbler: that means hours of hours of hours of work afterwards; my ubuntu is so customized, it's going to be awful to try and restore everything...
[10:31] <LaireTM> theadmin: alt+f2 dont work
[10:31] <Flipz> anyone know what to do?
[10:31] <cnf> no? hmm
[10:31] <EvilDennisR> peleg: ..typically the upgrades don't work =)
[10:31] <Flipz> it says my netgear card doesn't register
[10:31] <alankila> Logicwax: are you aware of the fact that in RAID, all disks have a tendency to fail at the same time? You are in a very dangerous situation right now.
[10:32] <Krewl> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[10:32] <Logicwax> nibbler: ubuntu is at least smart enough to know that is degraded, AND, it even asks me if I want to mount the degraded array when I click on it in gnome.  but nothing happens
[10:32] <nibbler> peleg, normally you should have all your configs left in homedir, backup your /etc aswell, should be no more than one hour ususally
[10:32] <theadmin> LaireTM: Ah, then it's the window manager.
[10:32] <Flipz> so anyone know what to do?
[10:32] <LaireTM> theadmin: and what do now?
[10:32] <theadmin> Krewl: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <alankila> Logicwax: unless you have backups
[10:32] <nibbler> Logicwax, i'd try it in the commandline, check mdadm manpages
[10:32] <Flipz> so anyone know what to do?
[10:32] <Flipz> so anyone know what to do?
[10:32] <Logicwax> alankila: yeah...id like to read/access the data though.   even to back it up purposes
[10:32] <peleg> EvilDennisR, but ubuntu upgrades itself twice a year. Don't you think it is really weird (and frustrating) to reinstall your OS twice a year?
[10:32] <Krewl> theadmin: That was ahem.. predictable, but thanx anyway
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> peleg: ..thats why I always put /home/ on its own partition my friend
[10:33] <Gheddy_Zarc> what kind of wireless hub is it Flipz , whta version of Ubuntu are you running ? what kind o f computer is it running on /?
[10:33] <Flipz> I'm running a dell on ubuntu 9.10
[10:33] <theadmin> LarieTM: I dunno... maybe some config file or something, but i really didn't work with UNR...
[10:33] <nibbler> peleg, if you do it twice a year, an upgrde does work fine. its just you didnt do it in 2-3 years :)
[10:34] <peleg> nibbler, for example, I have a custom keyboard layout; for that, I needed to edit a few files in /etc, but I can't remember exactly which -- that was a long time ago. How will I know which files, after reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:34] <EvilDennisR> peleg: that way I can just tgz /etc/, and dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages -- install the new version on /, copy whatever config files to /etc/ and reinstall all the packages I had installed with  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[10:34] <Logicwax> nibbler: well i did...and thats my question.   if mdadm knows whats up with "--examine" argument, then will i screw up anything if I re-create the array in mdadm?
[10:34] <wilson> EvilDennisR: i tried to save the configuration again
[10:34] <alankila> I had a RAID5 of 4x160 GB disks and 2 of the disks failed just couple of days apart.
[10:34] <wilson> EvilDennisR: save configuration
[10:34] <alankila> Surprisingly, the other 2 have been running for years
[10:34] <Flipz> my netgear is a wg311
[10:34] <Flipz> it's a wireless card
[10:34] <peleg> nibbler, that's not true. I have this computer less then 2 years. I have upgraded to 7.10 about a year ago, after having 7.04 for about 8 months.
[10:35] <nibbler> peleg, 7.x is from 2007
[10:35] <peleg> upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 took me about a week.
[10:35] <wilson> EvilDennisR: should i use xorg.conf?
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> wilson: sure?
[10:35] <peleg> nibbler, I know, but I bought this laptop with this ubuntu version on it. That's how it was (blame Dell)
[10:35] <Flipz> My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter
[10:35] <Flipz> And it won't work
[10:35] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: The fsck just got done, I rebooted and now I'm getting "error: file not found" and then a grub rescue prompt. What do I do? :(
[10:35] <Flipz> so how do I make it work on ubuntu?
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> wilson: why dpkg isn't putting anything in xorg.conf is beyond me
[10:35] <nibbler> peleg, ok, dell is to blame then ;-)
[10:36] <alankila> Logicwax: anyway, you can probably -- if the MD is compatible -- use mdadm --asseble /dev/md0 <disk1> <disk2> <disk3> ... etc to rebuild the disk. But this only works if the appropriate superblocks exist.
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: You had the raid stuff, right?
[10:36] <peleg> EvilDennisR, I have no idea what's written there :)
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: ..I've been drinking tonight. I come in here and answer questions when I'm bored =)
[10:37] <alankila> Logicwax: if they do not, chances are only the motherboard bios setup and associated linux-side kernel modules know how to handle the disks. This is general bane of using the BIOS-driven raids, they aren't always compatible with MD & the code paths used are different.
[10:37] <Flipz> Gheddy_Zarc my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important
[10:37] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Nope, I'm the dude who ^C'd a fsck :P
[10:37] <Flipz> so what do i do?
[10:37] <EvilDennisR> peleg: ..and thats why you will have to reinstall your system from scratch my friend
[10:37] <wilson> EvilDennisR: my xorg.conf is empty
[10:37] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: ah right.. .. so type root (hd0,0)
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
[10:38] <ardchoille> wilson: are you sure? did you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf  or  /etc/x11/xorg.conf  (notice the "X)
[10:38] <peleg> EvilDennisR, will you know how to explain me how to put the new keyboard layout back, for example?
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: initrc /initrd
[10:38] <FunkyWeasel> Good morning!  I noticed the following error during boot on ibex: mp-bios bug: 8254 timer  not connectied to io-apic .  A bit of reading shows I can disable IOAPIC (device interrupt controller as I understand it) either in BIOS or GRUB.  What rammifications will this have for performance on my desktop machine?
[10:38] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: All on one line?
[10:38] <Flipz> my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now?
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: Naw, enter after each line
[10:38] <RPG_Master> OK
[10:38] <Logicwax> alankila: well mdadm seems to "know whats up" with the two disks.  if I use the --examine argument on the two disks...it gives me all sorts of info about the original raid, how big it was, and what disk number each hdd was in the raid
[10:38] <peleg> but ikonia was on his way of showing me how to upgrade, but then stopped; ikonia: do you agree that upgrading will be impossible for me?
[10:38] <LaireTM> is it possible to reinstall my ubuntu system over network and recovery mode?
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> Damn, the singer from flyleaf is HOT /ADD
[10:39] <ardchoille> !language | EvilDennisR
[10:39] <theadmin> Grah. I got "Ubuntu One" in "Places" after accidentally launching it. How do i get rid of that?
[10:39] <alankila> Logicwax: good. Chances are the mobo raid is compatible. There was some talk about cooperation between various RAID software and a common superblock format, maybe that stuff has bore fruit
[10:39] <wilson> archoille: both are empty
[10:39] <EvilDennisR> What language!? Hot?? Or Attention deficit disorder??
[10:39] <Logicwax> alankila:  also if i just run "mdadm /dev/sde"  (or sdf), i get this:  /dev/sde: device 1 in 3 device undetected raid5 /dev/.tmp.md0.  Use mdadm --examine for more detail.
[10:39] <alankila> Logicwax: you may have to assemble the MD with one device marked as "missing", by that string
[10:39] <AdvoWork> nibbler, theadmin im trying to chown that directory, which has these permissions: drwxrwxrwx  2 root    65533   yet, it wont let me, permission denied. Problem is, I need to run the backup program as zimbra user, but the /home/backup folder is a mounted share onto my freenas box, so i think this is where the problem could be?
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: So do you actually answer anyones questions in here?
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: Or just moderate?
[10:40] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: Please be productive.
[10:40] <alankila> Logicwax: and I can't stress enough the need to backup immediately if you get the MD assembled. The danger of multiple disk failure is very real, as all disks are often from the same batch & have been equally strongly exercised by the RAID
[10:40] <nibbler> AdvoWork, yep, fix your mount options to make it user writable
[10:40] <alankila> so they have the tendency to all fail at the same time
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: Last time I checked I was in here on my own accord at 5:40am EST answering peoples questions..
[10:41] <theadmin> AdvoWork: How about doing "sudo -iu zimbra" and doing backup as that user?
[10:41] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: May I pm you?
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: No.
[10:41] <wilson> archoille: both are empty
[10:41] <AdvoWork> theadmin, what does that do?
[10:41] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Opens bash as "zimbra"
[10:41] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: I guess you don't really want an answer then :)
[10:41] <Logicwax> alankila: i read that.  well, assembling doesnt work, as it then yells at me saying:   mdadm --assemble /dev/sdf /dev/sde  then it returns "mdadm: /dev/sdf assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array."
[10:42] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: it isn't recognising "root (hd0,0)"
[10:42] <alankila> Logicwax: --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdf /dev/sde missing
[10:42] <alankila> assuming you have a 3-disk RAID5
[10:42] <Logicwax> oh, yeah i tried the missing, and same thing
[10:42] <alankila> Logicwax: you are not reading me
[10:42] <peleg> ikonia, are you still here? Should I wait for your answer?
[10:42] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: this the grub prompt, or the busybox prompt?
[10:42] <AdvoWork> theadmin, i put that in my script and it still came up with the same
[10:42] <Logicwax> alankila: "mdadm: cannot open device missing: No such file or directory
[10:42] <Logicwax> mdadm: missing has no superblock - assembly aborted
[10:42] <alankila> Logicwax: --assemble >>> /dev/md0 <<<
[10:42] <AdvoWork> nibbler, how can i fix it, when im doing the mount as \\ip\share /home/dir cifs exec
[10:42] <theadmin> AdvoWork: I dunno whether you can use sudo in scripts... hm.
[10:42] <Logicwax> ah
[10:43] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: "grub>"
[10:43] <ardchoille> EvilDennisR: I've been answering questions in this channel and on the ubuntu forums for years :)
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: type root (hd then hit tab, see what it gives you for results
[10:43] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: *"grub rescue>"
[10:43] <AdvoWork> theadmin, it did say: sudo: please use single character options         Password:  when i ran the cronjob
[10:43] <alankila> And the "missing" should really work. I used it just today to build a raid1 out of a degraded array.
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> RPG_Master: grub rescue? Hrrm, weird..
[10:43] <nibbler> AdvoWork, sorry, cant tell you. check "man mount.cifs" you cann tell what local user the mount should belong to etc
[10:43] <Logicwax> alankila: now i have to reboot.  everytime i run the assemble command....then it just yells at me saying no superblock found.  but oddly, its there when i reboot
[10:43] <alankila> But ... hmm ... I should probably double-check, to be sure ... I did use --build with missing, not --assemble
[10:44] <RPG_Master> EvilDennisR: Does nothing :(
[10:44] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Oh... My... ah, it won't let this work, because a cronjob won't run the bash shell i belive
[10:44] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, the mdadm command is very strange in that way that it has a tendency to somehow break the disks until reboot
[10:44] <Logicwax> alankila: yes the Build command.   this is why I came into this chan...i wanted to know if this will hose all my data?
[10:44]  * alankila can't help feeling that linux md is a joke
[10:45] <Logicwax> heh
[10:45] <alankila> Logicwax: the --build is dangerous to the extreme to existing data
[10:45] <AdvoWork> theadmin, i tried: http://pastebin.com/d3526c69e  but the 2nd line is the one i need to do, but as said, ive got to run the zmbackup as zimbra user
[10:45] <Logicwax> thats what i was afraid of
[10:45] <alankila> it basically tells MD to make a new device, write the superblock infos, and if enough devices are present, it also builds the redundancy data in the devices
[10:45] <Logicwax> oh geeze
[10:45] <EvilDennisR> ardchoille: Good for you. Pidgin -> help -> about -> Crazy Patch Writers:
[10:46] <Mehedi_Simon> In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how  can i configure it for full screen?
[10:46] <indus> Mehedi_Simon, isnt torcs an old outdated ugly racing game?
[10:46] <alankila> Logicwax: that being said, it is harmless if you --build with exactly the same arguments as before, because the MD is deterministic and will do all things the same way. Sadly, you don't have mdadm-made RAID5 so I can't guarantee safety. --assemble is safer, especially with a missing drive, as there is no redundancy info to build in that case
[10:46] <Mehedi_Simon> ya
[10:47] <Mehedi_Simon> But can u tell me about a good  one?
[10:47] <alankila> But it's also true that --assemble will start building the redundancy info in some cases, so that too could be dangerous to data. However, normally you can only assemble a RAID that is consistent with linux md's expectations & it's OK
[10:47] <indus> Mehedi_Simon, they have a mailing list wait
[10:47] <indus> Mehedi_Simon, maybe you could ask in thee
[10:47] <Mehedi_Simon> where?
[10:48] <robot> How do I disable shadows?
[10:48] <indus> Mehedi_Simon, is it a pretty decent game? i would like to try it too
[10:48] <Mehedi_Simon> In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how  can i configure it for full screen?
[10:48] <indus> Mehedi_Simon, http://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/torcs-users
[10:49] <Logicwax> alankila: well...can you tell me what exactly is responsible for making the /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc path?
[10:49] <Logicwax> that it made in the first place
[10:49] <alankila> Logicwax: I will also recommend staying away from RAID5 in the future. RAID1 is the most I personally dare to use, because I'm not dependent on getting the assembling right
[10:50] <Logicwax> well...i wanted more space and redundancy
[10:50] <alankila> Logicwax: well, it might be some device-mapper compatible raid (another way in linux to make raids) but I know very little about device-mapper.
[10:50] <EvilDennisR> I haz a tired
[10:50] <Mehedi_Simon> In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how  can i configure it for full screen?
[10:51] <AdvoWork> if ive got: drwxrwxrwx  4 root    65533    0 2010-02-19 10:42 zimbra_full_backups how come i get permission denied, when i do: chown zimbra:zimbra zimbra_full_backups/
[10:51] <ranjan> how to clear samba log from /var/log/samba directory ...
[10:51] <Logicwax> alankila: ok i did this " mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdf /dev/sde missing"  and i got this: mdadm: cannot open device missing: No such file or directory
[10:51] <Logicwax> mdadm: missing has no superblock - assembly aborted
[10:51] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: you need sudo
[10:51] <alankila> Logicwax: but indeed, there is both dm and md. dm is generally used by lvm for assembling dynamically resizable disks out of physical media, it's mostly an indirection layer of sorts... and then there's md for multiple-device, the classic raid solution of linux
[10:51] <justin22885> hey.. does anyone know what im supposed to do to get this wifi set up?
[10:52] <alankila> Logicwax: ok. Leave the missing out, then. I suppose --assemble doesn't support that form of invication
[10:52] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, i need to make it as the zimbra user, and ive already su zimbra'd
[10:52] <AdvoWork> so im running that command as zimbra
[10:52] <alankila> Logicwax: maybe it needs a --force to force starting the md even when disks are missing, then
[10:52] <Logicwax> mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives (out of 3).
[10:52] <Logicwax> !!!
[10:52] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: yes, but the folder belongs to root, not zimbra
[10:52] <Logicwax> woohoo
[10:52] <alankila> Logicwax: cool! Now try to mount it
[10:53] <rascal999> http://pastebin.com/m6bf5bf62 stops at line 4, how do I make it continue to end?
[10:53] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, i even did su zimbra, then mkdir newfolder and it still woulndt let me though
[10:53] <Logicwax> " mount -t ext4 /dev/md0 /media/vanix/"
[10:53] <Logicwax> "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0"
[10:54] <Logicwax> ahhh was so close
[10:54] <nibbler> rascal999, i guess it waits for a password?
[10:54] <alankila> Logicwax: are the disks given to md in correct order? I'm not sure if it would matter, though
[10:54] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: is zimbra your username?
[10:54] <rascal999> nibbler: no it chroots and doesn't continue until i 'exit'
[10:54] <Logicwax> yes, when i did the --examine....sdf was disk 0/3, and sde was 1/3
[10:54] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, im logged in as root, but zimbra is a user on the system, the zimbra user has to run certain programs
[10:54] <alankila> Logicwax: the stupid thing ought to be able to read the superblocks though
[10:54] <nibbler> rascal999, thats also the nature of chroot, make it execute exit in the chroot
[10:55] <kubanc> is in ubuntu twaek advisable to delete packages cache ( in package cleaner option clean cache )???
[10:55] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: you logged into the desktop as root user? That's a bad idea.
[10:55] <Logicwax> alankila: check this out, fdisk sees it as this "Disk /dev/md0: 3000.6 GB, 3000603639808 bytes
[10:55] <Logicwax> "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[10:55] <ardchoille> !sudo | AdvoWork There's no need to have the root account enabled
[10:55] <rascal999> nibbler: but I need to to run the subsequent commands in chroot
[10:55] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, i know, its a 1 off...
[10:55] <Logicwax> alankila: well...it got the size right....at least.   3TB is how big the original raid was
[10:55] <alankila> Logicwax: err... so we can conclude that the superblock information on the devices is not compatible with mdadm
[10:56] <alankila> Logicwax: shut the raid array down now.
[10:56] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, but why cant i make a new folder as the zimbra user?
[10:56] <alankila> Logicwax: oh you mean you do have 3 TB on it?
[10:56] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: If you enabled the root account and are logged into that account on the desktop, then I can't help you.
[10:56] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, i sshd in as root
[10:56] <Logicwax> alankila: yea well my original RAID set was 3x 1.5TB drives
[10:56] <alankila> Logicwax: well in that case I guess it kinda works... but what's this about partitions, do you have partitions on it?
[10:56] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, so im on ther terminal
[10:57] <wilson> how can i change my uplash screen?
[10:57] <nibbler> rascal999, chroot /mydir myscript.sh  <- you need to execute another script in the chroot enviroment. maybe you can also echo exit |chroot /mydir
[10:57] <Logicwax> alankila: yeah...actually....heh, i dunno if this matters.  but I just wrote a direct ext4 to it.
[10:58] <Logicwax> didnt partition it, as gparted always got in the way and insisted on making multuple partitions
[10:58] <alankila> Logicwax: no, you did the right thing. Linux probably wouldn't try to read a partition table out of a multiple-device device.
[10:58] <ardchoille> AdvoWork: I've beenusing Ubuntu for 5 years and have never seen the need to enable the root account. If you want my advice, log out of the root account, lock the root account and learn to use sudo/gksudo.
[10:58] <rascal999> nibbler: yeah, thanks
[10:58] <alankila> Logicwax: partitions are made on the raw device, smaller mds are then assembled out of the partitions.
[10:58] <Logicwax> ah
[10:59] <Logicwax> so did i mount it wrongly?
[10:59] <alankila> Logicwax: anyway, I do not know why md does not accept the device. I can only guess that the metadata as parsed by md & the one written by the /dev/mapper/stuff is somehow inconsistent. It's annoying, but you probably have to figure out how to force that /dev/mapper thing to map it with a missing drive.
[10:59] <nibbler> rascal999, welcome
[11:00] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, ok noted, ill sort that asap! but that still doesnt help this issue though
[11:00] <Logicwax> "mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives (out of 3)."  <<---isnt that proof that it is compatible with mds?
[11:00] <alankila> Logicwax: it was able to start it, but the fact no filesystem is found on device indicates that the assemble was not actually correct. The disks are used in wrong order or something.
[11:01] <alankila> Logicwax: or wrong stripe length, or wrong parity algorithm, or any other number of reasons why RAID5 can fail
[11:01] <wilson> how can i change my uplash screen?
[11:01] <alankila> And that means the mdadm is currently best understood as *dangerous* to the data. Should you now write to /dev/md0 you would damage the data on it.
[11:02] <rascal999> nibbler: how do i make it stay in chroot? I have
[11:02] <rascal999> http://pastebin.com/m3c368a3e and http://pastebin.com/m20d203f3
[11:03] <nibbler> rascal999, no idea :-) sorry i'm out
[11:03] <Logicwax> alankila: ack!   what about dm?
[11:03] <alankila> Logicwax: I know too little about dm.
[11:03] <AdvoWork> ardchoille, so no matter what user, even if im already the zimbra user, why wouldnt i be able to create a new directory under the zimbra user?
[11:04] <alankila> I only barely managed to learn to use raidtools when it got replaced by raidtools2 and then it got replaced by mdadm and maybe mdadm will be replaced by dm in the future, I don't know. I only know how to use mdadm right now, and dm is a big question mark.
[11:05] <Logicwax> alankila: ok...well then I guess its safe to assume dmraid is responsible for that /dev/mapper path?
[11:05] <Logicwax> hrmmm....
[11:05] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, the /dev/mapper is a smoking gun here about device-mapper being involved, I guess. But let me check one thing.
[11:05] <Logicwax> lookie at this!
[11:05] <Logicwax>  dmraid -r
[11:06] <pedestrianentran> has anyone got wireless working on an Acer Travelmate 2300?
[11:06] <Logicwax> "/dev/sdf: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0
[11:06] <Logicwax> "/dev/sde: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0
[11:06] <Logicwax> that looks.........good
[11:06] <alankila> Logicwax: good. So remove mdadm now, try to cope with dmraid.
[11:06] <alankila> I'll have to study which one I should be using, if mdadm is on the way out
[11:07]  * alankila scratches head
[11:08] <Logicwax> alankila: i think dmraid is the new thing to use....even though that sounds biasd
[11:08] <alankila> Logicwax: well, it is the one you should almost certainly be using... and to be honest, I've had a bad experience with mdadm.
[11:08] <alankila> so I don't miss it if it's gone, but I don't understand why the tools have to change every 2 years or so.
[11:09] <candyban> Am I the only one always having issues with pulseaudio? I'm so fed up that it "constantly" fails on all different kinds of hardware ... Linux audio was much more stable 10 years ago
[11:09] <meowbuntu> hi anyone here used enlightment wm before
[11:09] <alankila> Hopefully dm will be here to stay
[11:09] <justin22885> im trying to install gnome-desktop-environment, but its telling me it depends on fast-user-switch-applet which theres no installation candidate for
[11:09] <littlegreen> pedestrianentran is your wireless adapter Atheros-based? Most accers are...
[11:10] <ct529> hi everybody .... I would like to purge all the packages that are marked rc when I run dpkg -l .... anyone who knows how? I have tried different technicques but it did not work ....:(
[11:10] <candyban> my sound is all of a sudden "gone" (pulseaudio is running, alsa running)
[11:10] <ct529> like dpkg -l | grep -i 'rc  ' | apt-get purge
[11:10] <ct529> or dpkg -l | grep -i 'rc  ' | dpkg --purge
[11:10] <ct529> or dpkg --purge -a
[11:11]  * alankila finds device-mapper raids unimpressive
[11:11] <Logicwax> heh
[11:11] <Logicwax>  dmraid -ay -v
[11:11] <Logicwax> RAID set "sil_bgabdiajccbc" was not activated
[11:11] <Logicwax> thats about as far as i can get
[11:11] <alankila> still in 2008 there was no read balancing on dm-raid1, it apparently always read from just one disk or something. *puke*
[11:11] <Logicwax> even when i tell it to directly activate them
[11:11] <Logicwax> so im lookin for some sort of "who cares if its degraded, mount it you idiot!" argument
[11:12] <alankila> Maybe something wonderful has happened in 2 years, but 2 years isn't long and this stuff has been there forever... I guess nobody really uses software raids in linux? I find it hard to believe given how unfriendly mdadm is, and how poor dm appears to be. :-/
[11:12] <Logicwax> why dont you like dm?
[11:12] <alankila> Logicwax: *shrug*
[11:13] <candyban> ct529, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l grep "^rc" | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -P (unofficial out the top of my head ... try without the xargs dpkg -P first)
[11:13] <alankila> Logicwax: it's not me. When I read in 2008 that raid1 -- the only raid level I personally trust with data -- only reads from 1 disk and doesn't handle read failure, I simply groan
[11:13] <erUSUL> !ot rants in offtopic please →
[11:13] <alankila> to me, that makes device-mapper worthless. It would have been worthless as soon as 2008
[11:13] <erUSUL> !ot | rants in offtopic please →
[11:14] <Logicwax> hrmm
[11:14] <sam_> I would like to be able to play wma files using rhythmbox. I can play them using mplayer. but not vlc or rhythmbox. I have w32codecs installed
[11:14] <sam_> is it possible?
[11:14] <tuxattack> !ubottu
[11:15] <erUSUL> sam_: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?
[11:15] <Logicwax> alankila:  /dev/sdf: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0
[11:15] <Logicwax> those two lines
[11:15] <sam_> erUSUL, yep
[11:15] <tuxattack> !ubottu | ubottu
[11:15] <Logicwax> for sde too...thats a good sign, at least, right?
[11:15] <ct529> candyban: yes!  COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep "^rc" | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -P
[11:15] <ct529> candyban: it is working .... thanks you very much!!!!
[11:15] <spasht> hello . i need help with tvtime, cant change frquencies in composite1. what do i do?
[11:15] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, it's aware of the RAID. You just have to look for some option to force it to start in degraded mode, I guess. If it can't do that, then, well, I guess DM proves to be just as bad with raid5 as it apparently is/was with raid1
[11:15] <candyban> ct529, np
[11:16] <sam_> So anyone know if it is possible?
[11:16] <erUSUL> sam_: and you have gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg   instaled ?
[11:17] <ct529> candyban: do you have any good tutorial for awk and xargs
[11:17] <sam_> yep
[11:17] <erUSUL> sam_: it is possible iirc (now i use banshee)
[11:17] <erUSUL> ct529: #bash ; #awk
[11:17] <candyban> ct529, awk is a programming language (but very useful) ... you could have used cut as well
[11:17] <erUSUL> !cli | ct529
[11:18] <candyban> ct529, and man xargs ;)
[11:18] <Logicwax> well the fact that is says "ok" comforts me
[11:18] <Logicwax> alankila: thank you so much for your help
[11:19] <sam_> Anyone have a idea about what makes wma files play?
[11:19] <pedestrianentran> littlegreen: linksys
[11:19] <justin22885> gnome is pissing me off right now
[11:20] <alankila> Logicwax: yeah, maybe it just needs all drives before it's back online.
[11:20] <erUSUL> sam_: according to « gst-inspect-0.10  | grep wma » is the ffmpeg plugin
[11:20] <littlegreen> pedestrianentran use wired internet connection and update your drivers using the "Hardware Drivers" applet. Worked for me on three acer laptops so far - 2 Atheros-based chips and one linksys'
[11:21] <Logicwax> alankila: according to some quick googling....people have had to resort to booting windows to fix the fakeraid!!!  because dmraid doesnt understand degrading
[11:21] <alankila> Logicwax: it seems that raid5 with dm was "in early stages" as soon as 2008. Ugly. I guess the md code is still the better choice in general.
[11:22] <Logicwax> alankila: do i rebuild the array in linux?  or in the cards bios util?
[11:22] <erUSUL> Logicwax: do ot use fakeraid. the only justification for using it is the need for the array to be accesed by both windows and linux. if you only have linux use linux's software raid
[11:22] <alankila> Logicwax: I don't know.
[11:23] <Logicwax> erUSUL: here's a justification.....im not spending $300 on a real raid card
[11:23]  * alankila just screwed up with his laptop's raid setup
[11:23] <sam_> erUSUL, I think i already have ffmpeg. Which package in particular should I download?
[11:24] <erUSUL> Logicwax: nobody asked you to do such a thing.
[11:24] <erUSUL> sam_: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:24] <alankila> I used mdadm --build instead of mdadm --create, for some stupid reason. --build works without metadata, --create adds metadata. Moves start of partition, but is necessary if you want to boot the thing correctly. *sigh* So I just realized I must rebuild the entire filesystem after remaking the raid with --create
[11:24] <erUSUL> Logicwax: configure the card to be just a sata controller (jobod or similar) then use mdadm to assemble a linux raid
[11:24] <erUSUL> !raid
[11:24] <sam_> erUSUL, already got that i'm afraid
[11:25] <erUSUL> sam_: then i dunno sorry
[11:25] <sam_> OK fair enough
[11:25] <erUSUL> sam_: wmas play in totem ?
[11:25] <sam_> thanks for trying
[11:25] <Logicwax> hrmmm
[11:25] <sam_> erUSUL, no
[11:26] <Logicwax> erUSUL: ok i see what you mean....using mdadm to assemble linux raid
[11:26] <Logicwax> what about dmraid?
[11:26] <wilson> how can i change my uplash screen?
[11:27] <Logicwax> i think my solution will be to get to bed right now...wakeup tomorrow and goto frys...get a new 1.5TB drive, and then tell dmraid to rebuild
[11:27] <alankila> Logicwax: I can only relay the words from 2008 "dmraid 5 support is still in early stages"
[11:27] <erUSUL> Logicwax: dmraid is a hack to be able tu use fakeraid in linux
[11:27] <candyban> Logicwax, use md instead
[11:27] <alankila> I'm hoping your BIOS has support for rebuilding the RAID. In that case, it's not a problem.
[11:27] <sam_> ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media Audio decoder|decoder-audio/x-wma, wmaversion=(int)4, bitrate=(int)1152000 (Windows Media Audio decoder)
[11:28] <Logicwax> you know...i didnt use EITHER.   ubuntu did this for my automatically.....in fact, i still havent confirmed if dmraid is what ubuntu used to make the device mapper
[11:28] <Flipz> my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now?
[11:28] <alankila> Logicwax: so you didn't ever use BIOS to set it up?
[11:28] <Logicwax> yes
[11:29] <Logicwax> not the mobo bios, but the card bios...you know on bootup
[11:29] <Logicwax> same thing tho
[11:29] <sam_> mplayer tells me it is using wma9dmo
[11:29] <alankila> Logicwax: ah. Right. So you DID actually force Ubuntu to use the dm path in that case.
[11:29] <erUSUL> Logicwax: well the block device names used by dmraid are weird; md raid 8linux soft raid) uses /dev/md0 or similar
[11:29] <Logicwax> i setup a raid5 in the bios.....then ubuntu automatically made it /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc
[11:29] <syrius> LINUX
[11:29] <candyban> Logicwax, why do you want that "raid"? (ps. You know that it is not REAL raid right?)
[11:29] <syrius> RULES
[11:29] <alankila> Logicwax: it adapts to what is possible. The BIOS raids are like that: you have some kind of support but they are second class citizens apparently.
[11:29] <erUSUL> Flipz: tell us first what wifi chip does the card uses.
[11:30] <erUSUL> Flipz: lspci | grep -i net
[11:30] <candyban> Logicwax, it's just fancy bios and an OS driver
[11:30] <_shifftyonejr_> When installing Linux to the hard drive, what is teh recomended size for the swap partition?
[11:30] <Flipz> k
[11:30] <Logicwax> why do i want it?   cus i wanted 3TB's together as one logical drive, and i wanted it redundant if it ever screwed up.   also, i never did anything with RAIDs before in linux
[11:30] <alankila> Logicwax: by using the BIOS tools, you however did force ubuntu's hand. We already know that mdadm's view of the world is not consistent with the fakeraid's.
[11:31] <DasEi> _shifftyonejr_: general rule double of ram, but depends on your needs, how much ram ?
[11:31] <erUSUL> _shifftyonejr_: depends on ram. if you plan to s2disk it has to be of the same size. if you do not want just reserve 1 GiB or so
[11:31] <_shifftyonejr_> I am running 768 at this time but getting more ram,
[11:31] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, it's an understandable mistake. I have made a number of them voer the years, which is why I only trust raid1. Call it experience. :-/
[11:31] <erUSUL> _shifftyonejr_: then 1GiB is a good choice
[11:32] <candyban> Logicwax, I strongly (really strong) recommend using MD ... never used it on desktop though, but server install should allow you to build raid volumes in the installer
[11:32] <_shifftyonejr_> Okay.  Thank you.
[11:32] <Logicwax> alankila: ok...i may have forced ubuntu's hand.  id like to know how ubuntu dealt with it (using dmraid?  or what???)
[11:32] <candyban> Logicwax, it can do RAID-5, RAID-6, RAID-10 (whatever you want)
[11:32] <DasEi> _shifftyonejr_: so if hd is big enough, give it little more, so later hassle; I put down my swapiness very far and seldom run out of ram, so it never swaps (but also I don't hibernate)
[11:33] <DasEi> so no*
[11:33] <candyban> Logicwax, and more importantly, it is portable (you can just plug it in in any other machine and it will boot up as expected)
[11:33] <Logicwax> candyban: what can?
[11:33] <_shifftyonejr_> 160GB HD but I have it split between Windows and LInux.
[11:33] <obscurant1st> what is the command for checkin all the drive for errors?? somebody plsd
[11:33] <candyban> Logicwax, md (rather than dmraid)
[11:33] <Logicwax> ok
[11:34] <Logicwax> but how do i identify what ubuntu used to make the /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc  path?
[11:34] <alankila> Logicwax: it's just that ubuntu adapted to the BIOS raid. The BIOS raids are not quite the same thing as MD, they have different layouts of parameters or whatever, so there's some support for them but they just don't work as good as the md stuff. (But my experience is that MD stuff doesn't work that good either.)
[11:34] <Logicwax> cus still to this point, i have no verified that is was in fact dmraid
[11:34] <candyban> Logicwax, just make sure you have a small RAID-1 partition to install /boot ... rest of the drives can be RAID-5
[11:34] <DasEi> obscurant1st: fsck / e2fsck, but do from live on UNmounted hd only
[11:34] <deepocean> Hello
[11:35] <DasEi> !hi
[11:35] <candyban> Logicwax, cat /proc/mdstat
[11:35] <Logicwax> alankila:  raid1 is all nice swell....but i want multiple TBs stringed into one logical drive, thats what im after
[11:35] <DasEi> obscurant1st: need more help in that /have a live handy ?
[11:35] <candyban> Logicwax, you can use RAID-5 (or 6 if you want more redundancy)
[11:35] <Logicwax> candyban: tried that already, doesnt show crap
[11:35] <Logicwax> yea
[11:35] <candyban> Logicwax, then you don't have md ;)
[11:36] <Logicwax> but like i said....i need to find out if dmraid was in fact what was used
[11:36] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, well, good luck on that path. I just do not trust I will be able to recover a raid5 volume on failure, and thus I find the data to be in jeopardy and do not sleep well at night.
[11:36] <Logicwax> or if it was something else
[11:36] <Logicwax> alankila:  you'll prob laugh at me....but i have 10TB on 5x 2TB drives, all LVM'd together
[11:37] <candyban> Logicwax, unless you setup drbd (which I highly doubt) ... the only thing (other than hardware raid and md) that builds a raid device is dmraid
[11:37] <Logicwax> LVM set to linear mode
[11:37] <erUSUL> Logicwax: if you have a bios raid configured only dmraid could be used besouse there is not other driver for that kind of devices
[11:37] <jofo> Hello. On which bugzilla can I indicate a problem I’ve encountered in System>Preferences>Keyboard?
[11:37] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, that drive is virtually certain to be trashed any moment now.
[11:37] <obscurant1st> DasEi: i dint get you.
[11:37] <erUSUL> !bugs | jofo
[11:37] <DasEi> obscurant1st: fsck / e2fsck, but do from live on UNmounted hd only
[11:37] <DasEi> obscurant1st: need more help in that /have a live handy ?
[11:37] <meowbuntu> hi i can find some icons in /usr/shere/icons whats the other file in usr/share/
[11:37] <Logicwax> alankila: what drive is certain to be trashed!?!?
[11:37] <obscurant1st> DasEi: i dont know, my ubuntu was not booting after an partition resize and movement, i hd to mess with the grub for 2 hrs n now its booting, but before while booting lots of errors shown i dont know what are they so i asked
[11:37] <candyban> Logicwax, you do realize that RAID will cost you (at least) 1 disk right?
[11:38] <Logicwax> yup
[11:38] <DasEi> !
[11:38] <obscurant1st> and btw after the partition resize and move i installed backtrack
[11:38] <`mOOse`> Logicwax - movie db?
[11:38] <alankila> Logicwax: well, when any one of your drives break on that array, it may be that you will be unable to fsck the volume at all. And you may lose all data.
[11:38] <DasEi> obscurant1st: well, that will have been the uuids of fstab I gues
[11:38] <Logicwax> `mOOse`:  :x
[11:38] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[11:38] <DasEi> !uuid | obscurant1st
[11:38] <Logicwax> alankila: oh your talkin about the LVM volume, eh?
[11:38] <jofo> erUSUL, But what should I write instead of <package>? The problem is in System>Preferences>Keyboard (in Gnome).
[11:38] <alankila> Logicwax: yes.
[11:39] <erUSUL> jofo: gnome-keyboard-properties probably
[11:39] <Logicwax> so before i leave and goto sleep...you guys are saying the best way to string TBs together with tons of hdds....is to use mdadm, are we all agreed on this?
[11:39] <obscurant1st> DasEi: what should i do after getting that uuids?
[11:39] <candyban> Logicwax, just wondering : why are you using LVM? Do you need to create multiple partitions on the fly?
[11:39] <jofo> OK Thanks
[11:39] <deepocean> How do I increase my FireFox fonts. FireFox does not to respond to Fonts setting within the application.
[11:39] <deepocean> neiterh to changes from System settings
[11:39] <alankila> Logicwax: the support on linux side is still best for the "md", and "dm" is apparently still worthless.
[11:39] <candyban> Logicwax, is it some kind of "production server"
[11:40] <Logicwax> candyban: i used LVM because....since i have so many HDDs, they are on seperate PCI SATA cards.   so i found that LVM strung them all together into one massive disk
[11:41] <obscurant1st> btw how to resinstall and fix my grub? in ubuntu 9.10
[11:41] <candyban> Logicwax, you can use md for that
[11:41] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, one with no redundancy. When any one of the drives break, I wonder how well the tools will cope with a missing 2 TB chunk of filesystem data.
[11:42] <candyban> Logicwax, md does not care where the disk is at ... you can even use USB disks in there
[11:42] <alankila> Not that you will be able to tell, it probably takes days to fsck it to begin with. Large volumes are *awful*.
[11:42] <candyban> Logicwax, or iscsi exports
[11:42] <Logicwax> well i assumed it would be like windows dynamic spanned volumes...where if you lose a disk...you just lose what was on THAT disk, since its all written linear
[11:42] <elad> Hi, I am having some problems with xserver on ubuntu karmic. When I boot it displays a message "failed loading module type1" and lets me to choose to run in low graphics. But if I choose console and write startx, it seems to work...
[11:42] <jofo> erUSUL, The package gnome-keyboard-properties doesn’t exist.
[11:43] <erUSUL> jofo: dpkg -S $(which gnome-keyboard-properties) ----> gnome-control-center
[11:43] <Logicwax> so mdadm should be used to bring multiple drives (from all sources) into one big volume, eh?
[11:43] <candyban> Logicwax, it depends ... if you have multiple partitions ... you could be in luck
[11:43] <Logicwax> just one
[11:43] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, in principle you lose only what was written on that disk, but that doesn't mean the tools are able to cope with it. You should try it, I guess, but I think you'll be disappointed.
[11:43] <candyban> Logicwax, it depends on what exactly you would like to do ...
[11:44] <candyban> Logicwax, lvm on top of multiple md devices works great as well
[11:44] <justin22885> this is making me really angry.. i cant get ubuntu installed because it depends on a package that doesnt exist
[11:44] <Logicwax> that whole set is healthy...but im just worrying for future reference
[11:44] <jofo> erUSUL, What!?
[11:44] <shadow> who paly conquer
[11:44] <Logicwax> hrmm
[11:44] <justin22885> gnome i mean... missing dependancy
[11:44] <shadow>  play*
[11:44] <erUSUL> jofo: the package is gnome-control-center
[11:44] <jofo> OK
[11:44] <Logicwax> candyban: well the only thing id like to do is what i do:  string hdds together to make a big logical drive volume
[11:44] <Logicwax> and your tellin me mdadm is best for that
[11:44] <Logicwax> ok
[11:45] <alankila> Logicwax: you would be better off just mounting all disks separately under some kind of scheme like /disk1 /disk2 /disk3 /disk4 /disk5 and moving directories manually between them. That way failure of disk is restricted strictly to that mount point
[11:45] <Logicwax> yea yea i know...but damn do i love seeing it all in one place ;)
[11:46] <candyban> Logicwax, depends on what your ultimate goal is ...
[11:46] <alankila> Logicwax: yes, but there is a terrible price to having a 10 TB volume. For starters, it is not fsckable in practice.
[11:46] <alankila> It will take days to fsck, I expect
[11:46] <Logicwax> yea
[11:46] <candyban> Logicwax, is it for storing your mp3s/DVD collection ... or for other purposes?
[11:46] <Logicwax> DVD
[11:46] <alankila> And you will be running fsck almost certainly when you lose a disk.
[11:47] <Logicwax> the one i have as raid5 is for mp3...and im more worried about that
[11:48] <candyban> Logicwax, it would be better to use smaller mds (e.g. use 10 mds of 200G each and put them in lvm
[11:48] <nibbler> alankila, but without raid, if a disk fails you have to use (and have) backups. ofc. raid is no replacement for backups, but should be an increasment of availability
[11:48] <Logicwax> what do you mean "mds"
[11:48] <candyban> Logicwax, mds = plural for md ;)
[11:48] <Logicwax> yeah but i thought md was just short for mdadm
[11:49] <Logicwax> you mean like md volumes?
[11:49] <candyban> Logicwax, you also have to take into account the rebuild time when you loose a disk
[11:49] <candyban> Logicwax, and with 2TB disks ... this can take some time (in which time you may loose another disk)
[11:50] <Logicwax> so can mdadm let you define striping across multuple disks?
[11:50] <elad> Hi, I am having some problems with xserver on ubuntu karmic. When I boot it displays a message "failed loading module type1" and lets me to choose to run in low graphics. But if I choose console and write startx, it seems to work...
[11:50] <candyban> Logicwax, that's what RAID-5 is all about (RAID-3 is a single stripe disk)
[11:51] <candyban> Logicwax, if your data is really important, RAID-6 is the way to go (but then you lose 2 disks)
[11:51] <Logicwax> candyban: yeah but im asking, can mdadm do raid5 with disks coming from all different sources (different pci cards)
[11:51] <candyban> Logicwax, yes
[11:51] <Logicwax> sweet
[11:51] <Logicwax> i'll have to switch to that then sometime soon
[11:51] <candyban> Logicwax, like I said, you can even use a USB disk in there (though not recommended)
[11:51] <Logicwax> yea
[11:51] <Logicwax> alright
[11:51] <alankila> Logicwax: actually we started a MD raid5 volume over the DM raid5 disks, but sadly it didn't work
[11:51] <candyban> Logicwax, but they have to be of the same size
[11:51] <Logicwax> yea
[11:52] <Logicwax> ok guys, im exhausted.   thank you so much for your help
[11:52] <candyban> Logicwax, also drbd is nice (if your data is really important)
[11:52] <Logicwax> never heard
[11:52]  * alankila doesn't understand why linux has DM. Why can't the dmraid just use MD internally?
[11:52] <Logicwax> i'll look it up
[11:52] <Logicwax> night!
[11:52] <candyban> Logicwax, it's RAID-1 over 2 different boxes ;)
[11:53] <Logicwax> oohh nice
[11:53] <sp0ckk> With regards to Apache2 on Ubuntu, what is the difference between the site-enabled and sites-available configuration files?
[11:53] <alankila> yeah with Logicwax's logic he'll probably put 10 PCs in row, all with 10 2 TB disks, and arrange the whole thing as s single linear volume
[11:53] <alankila> sweet! 200 TB ext4!
[11:54] <alankila> Sorry for mocking you, but the stuff just doesn't work that well.
[11:54] <ziroday> sp0ckk: sites-enabled are vhosts that are actually...well working, whilst you can store configurations in sites-available for later use should you need them
[11:54] <sp0ckk> ziroday: Thanks.
[11:54] <Logicwax> hey i didnt have the money for redudancy lost disks (for parity)   i knew the risk and took it
[11:54] <ziroday> sp0ckk: I believe there is a command to manage -available and -enabled but I don't have an apache install here
[11:55] <justin22885> hmm
[11:55] <justin22885> this is really frustrating
[11:55] <Krewl> en2ensite and a2dissite
[11:55] <seryi> oloa
[11:55] <Krewl> for apache sites enabling
[11:55] <sp0ckk> ziroday: It's OK. I was having trouble with some warnings, but they've been resolved now :)
[11:55] <alankila> Logicwax: I understand, but if you want to straighten this out now, you'll have a ton of effort in doing so.
[11:55] <ziroday> sp0ckk: awesome, and Krewl had the command(s) :)
[11:55] <Krewl> or just make a simlink in sites enabled to a sites-available config
[11:55] <seryi> ola+
[11:55] <alankila> To back up a 10 TB volume you need a 10 TB backup disk. And that is reason enough to avoid making large volumes.
[11:55] <ziroday> seryi: Hi!
[11:55] <seryi> k haxes
[11:56] <candyban> alankila, if it is for storing his DVD collection ... he already has a backup
[11:56] <sp0ckk> ziroday: It's been over a couple of years since I played with Ubuntu now; does it comes with a firewall enabled and on by default? Is it iptables? (I'm using Ubuntu as a server, via an SSH terminal).
[11:56] <seryi> no te rias
[11:56] <alankila> Yes, but that's not the point.
[11:56] <Krewl> sp0ckk:  same for modules a2enmod for enabling a module, a2dismod to turn them off
[11:56] <ziroday> sp0ckk: ubuntu has iptables and ufw installed by default, however neither are turned on
[11:57] <candyban> alankila, then what is your point?
[11:57] <ziroday> !iptables > sp0ckk
[11:57] <alankila> The point is that large disks are a nuisance. Small disks are nuisance too. You want to hit the sweet spot between backupability and convenience.
[11:57] <ziroday> !ufw > sp0ckk
[11:57] <sp0ckk> ziroday: Ah. Then I need to do so.
[11:57] <sp0ckk> ziroday: Thanks.
[11:57] <leiao> hello
[11:57] <ziroday> sp0ckk: its a good idea, the documentation that ubottu sent you is really helpful
[11:57] <sp0ckk> I'll do some Googleing on securing Apache2, the firewall, SSH and sftp.
[11:58] <sp0ckk> They're the services I want on my VPS. I'm only hosting a couple of Wikis.
[11:58] <alankila> In my opinion that sweet spot is somewhere around 1 terabyte -- I don't partition 500 GB disks at all, for instance -- but I would not accept 2 TB volumes right now. They are too incnovenient to temporarily stash somewhere and take alltogether too long to copy.
[11:58] <ziroday> sp0ckk: sure, feel free to ask if you're not sure about anything
[11:58] <RPG_Master> MY ENTIRE FILE SYSTEM HAS BEEN PUT IN THE LOST+FOUND FOLDER :'(
[11:58] <candyban> alankila, if he has no cash for a hardware raid controller and is fiddeling around with SATA disks and "dmraid" ... he has no cash for decent backup
[11:58] <sp0ckk> ziroday: Excellent. Thank you.
[11:58] <RPG_Master> Help me :(
[11:58] <ziroday> sp0ckk: have fun :)
[11:59] <erUSUL> RPG_Master: uhggg that hurts ... i have my entire /etc/ put there once == reinstall
[11:59] <calebjohnson> are all custom configuration options stored under the home directory startin with .?
[11:59] <alankila> candyban: imo, still irrelevant. This in no way invalidates why it's a good idea to not make one giant large volume.
[11:59] <Krewl> uhm, not sure we can RPG_Master
[11:59] <candyban> alankila, that's why I suggested creating 10x 200G mds
[11:59] <RPG_Master> erUSUL: I MUST save my files from my home dir! :O
[11:59] <ziroday> calebjohnson: all hidden files start with ".", they exist throughout the linux filesystem. You can show them in nautilus by pressing ctrl+h
[11:59] <alankila> candyban: yes, fairly sensible, but then you suggested stringing them together as LVM and the advantage of separate filesystems is lost.
[11:59] <RPG_Master> Loosing them is not an option
[12:00] <indus> what is lost + found for
[12:00] <Krewl> RPG_Master: are all your files just renamed or is some folder structure saved?
[12:00] <erUSUL> RPG_Master: depending of the file types and size you can try to identify them in that folder
[12:00] <alankila> They again become this large unit that has to be beckuped all at once and fscked all at once. And that's very bad.
[12:00] <calebjohnson> ziroday: so are config files mainly in the etc directory?
[12:00] <Krewl> RPG_Master: also the file command will help you identify what files are what type
[12:01] <Krewl> if ther are all just file0001, 002 etc
[12:01] <ziroday> calebjohnson: system wide configuration files are mainly in /etc/, whilst configuration files that affect your user are in your home directory
[12:01] <RPG_Master> Krewl: It looks like there are no folders in Lost+Found
[12:01] <RPG_Master> Just a bunch of txt files and a few images with correct thumbnales
[12:01] <Krewl> RPG_Master: then I know of no way to undo the damage, maybe someone else can provide a better idea....
[12:01] <candyban> alankila, he specifically wanted a single volume ... I've learned that if you want people to accept good advice, to first tell them what they want to hear and then tell them why it is not such a good idea ... ps. putting them in a single VG does still not invalidate the advantage of multiple smaller disks
[12:02] <alankila> candyban: okay.
[12:02] <Krewl> RPG_Master: You could at first try to make a backup somewhere so you can access the files on a working computer
[12:03] <Krewl> RPG_Master: say copy to an USB disk running from a Live CD
[12:03] <RPG_Master> Krewl: I'm messing with them through a livecd
[12:03] <alankila> candyban: it's his data and no skin off my back, so I don't personally mind even if he lost all his linear and raid5 data. I consider it fairly likely, by the way he's going around that this will happen. Lessons learnt in lost data are remembered well.
[12:03] <candyban> alankila, I wonder how he will migrate his data ;)
[12:03] <calebjohnson> ziroday: thanks for that
[12:03] <ziroday> calebjohnson: no worries, have fun!
[12:04] <vdub> could anyone explain what you need to do to a bash script to have it work in terminal no matter the directory its in?
[12:04] <ziroday> vdub: you need to put the script in /usr/bin and give it the correct permissions
[12:04] <kesherwani> i need help .. my ubuntu system is getting struck in middle of booting
[12:04] <calebjohnson> and that's because it's an executable directory right?
[12:04] <Krewl> RPG_Master: hmm tough one, but if you must get it back, I gues there is no other way.
[12:04] <MohammadRRR> Hi , How Can I Write a Script to shutdown computer in a time wthout requesting password /
[12:04] <MohammadRRR> ?
[12:04] <candyban> alankila, I second that ... I lost data once with lvm + striping (yeah ... I know now) ... lessons duly learned when I got driveseek errors after half a year
[12:04] <vdub> ziroday: is it chmod u+x?
[12:05] <kesherwani> strating up...
[12:05] <kesherwani> Loading, please wait...
[12:05] <kesherwani> check root=booting cat/proc/cmdline
[12:05] <kesherwani> or missing modules, devices: cat/proc/modules ls /dev
[12:05] <kesherwani> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-vvid/44c02152-eb7c-4ca8-b606-38cf65a6552f does not exist. Dr opping to a shell!
[12:05] <FloodBot1> kesherwani: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <kesherwani> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3- 5ubuntu12) Built in shell(ash)
[12:05] <Krewl> RPG_Master: I'd start with a backup, so you can always try again and work off the backup copy.
[12:05] <candyban> alankila, but at the time the disks were more costly than the data that was on there ...
[12:05] <ziroday> vdub: a+x should do the trick
[12:05] <jrib> MohammadRRR: no script needed.  « shutdown » accepts a time argument
[12:05] <RPG_Master> Krewl: Are the files corrupted or are is it just the folder structure that's messed up
[12:05] <RPG_Master> ?
[12:05] <vdub> ziroday: thanks I couldnt remember appriciate the help
[12:06] <Krewl> no way for me to tell, itś your system
[12:06] <MohammadRRR> jrib: it require password I Want It Without Password
[12:06] <kesherwani> i am getting this prompt- initramfs
[12:06] <Krewl> RPG_Master: but do you know how to loop the file command to check each filename, and output the type to a textfile.
[12:06] <Krewl> I
[12:06] <kesherwani> struck in middle of booting
[12:07] <kesherwani> plz somebody help me
[12:07] <candyban> kesherwani, type vgchange -ay
[12:07] <candyban> kesherwani, you are using lvm?
[12:07] <ct529> candyban: yes, I always use cli .... just did not know anything about awk / xargs
[12:07] <RPG_Master> Krewl: Sir, I'm a 15 year old noob, so no :(
[12:07] <ziroday> MohammadRRR: you can do sudo shutdown <time>, or if you put that in a script then sudo foo,sh
[12:08] <Krewl> RPG_Master: I would try the following: Use file to determine the type, put output from file in a textfile, use that output to separate your files into groups (Like all *.mp3, all *.doc etc etc) and then use that to bulk rename the files to the extention  matching the type you discovered.
[12:08] <kesherwani> candyban , i am new to ubuntu ..don't know what does vm1 means .. but here the details that i am getting on my screen
[12:08] <kesherwani> candyban
[12:08] <kesherwani> ~floodbot@ubuntu/bot/floodbot
[12:09] <Krewl> RPG_Master: then put all of the same type in their own folder and then you have to check them by hand by opening them to see whats in.
[12:09] <candyban> kesherwani, is it a clean install?
[12:09] <Krewl> RPG_Master: but atleast this will focus your work on the type of files you'd like to recover
[12:09]  * alankila thinks linux should have a filesystem that spans multiple disks as separate unit managed in some intelligent way... anyone know if such a thing exists, and not talking about unionfs
[12:09] <AdvoWork> if ive just made a share on my freebsd/freenas box, as a NAS share, how would i mount this in ubuntu? i normally do this in /etc/fstab by doing  //ip/share /home/dir cifs exec
[12:10] <Krewl> RPG_Master: iĹLBE RIGHT BACK, PERHAPS A pm ?
[12:10] <Krewl> sorry caps
[12:10] <RPG_Master> ok
[12:10] <kesherwani> no , i have been using this OS for few months and today when i tried to strtat my system , i am getting thi s message -
[12:10] <kesherwani> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-vvid/44c02152-eb7c-4ca8-b606-38cf65a6552f does not exist. Dr opping to a shell!
[12:10] <kesherwani> BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3- 5ubuntu12) Built in shell(ash)
[12:10] <RPG_Master> I have like 10gigs of photos that can not be lost :(
[12:10] <alankila> I'd love to have something that allows treating multiple disks as one filesystem while keeping the filesystems still separate. The idea would be that toplevel directories would be located on different devices, or randomly, doesn't matter.
[12:10] <cbovy> hi all. quick question: is it possible to launch the Alternative Installer from the regular Live-CD? (I want to install with LVM support)
[12:10] <kesherwani> Enter 'help' for the list of built in commands
[12:10] <kesherwani> (initramfs)
[12:11] <candyban> alankila, why would you want that?
[12:11] <alankila> the point is that if you make such fs out of, say, 3 devices, then a file is on some of the 3 filesystems
[12:11] <candyban> kesherwani, did you make hardware changes? (e.g. removed a disk or so)
[12:11] <alankila> candyban: as a means to have advantages of raid0 without the huge disadvantage of very large filesystem and associated fsck penalties.
[12:11] <kesherwani> no, nothing..
[12:12] <kesherwani> might be poosible , that some virus might have crept through pen drive
[12:12] <kesherwani> strating up...
[12:12] <kesherwani> Loading, please wait...
[12:12] <kesherwani> check root=booting cat/proc/cmdline
[12:12] <kesherwani> or missing modules, devices: cat/proc/modules ls /dev
[12:12] <FloodBot1> kesherwani: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:12] <alankila> or well, some of the advantages of raid0 at least. The fact you can just treat the device as a large collection of data, but have some lighter recovery procedure in case of disk failure, like losing 1/3 of files in case of 3-disk-hybrid-monster, but no need to fsck or risk losing the entire filesystem.
[12:13] <AntiProxy> i have a fresh installation of bind9 on my ubuntu box.. i configured named.conf.options with listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; but netstat -nlp shows named listening on tcp 127.0.0.1:53 (as configured) and udp 0.0.0.0:53 .. how can i force it to listen to 127.0.0.1:53 on UDP also?!
[12:14] <candyban> alankila, I don't think that will be possible ...
[12:14] <seryi> oe
[12:14] <seryi> q axeisç
[12:14] <alankila> candyban: no, because nobody has written such a thing.
[12:14] <alankila> candyban: maybe a project for me to write in fuse
[12:15] <seryi> google
[12:15] <seryi> eres tonto
[12:15] <seryi> hola idiotas
[12:16] <seryi> gilipoyas
[12:16] <candyban> alankila, it will be incredibly hard to write (I think) ... as how would you cope with files that span the 3 disks? ... what about directories that exist on one disk, but the files are on the other ... it would lead to huge inconsistencies
[12:16] <seryi> asdf8hgxcgnhgyancmftghygf
[12:16] <budmaester> Need help reloading OO
[12:16] <alankila> candyban: not at all. Firstly, you will make the same directories on all the disks.
[12:16] <guntbert> AntiProxy: 0.0.0.0:53 means every address - so 127.0.0.1:53 too
[12:17] <egsome> anyone know a good WYSIWYG html editor like M$ FrontPage works good on ubuntu ?
[12:17] <alankila> Store only the files at any of the 3 disks according to which has most free space, use that one. And when unlinking a file, unlink it on all 3, when listing files, scan all 3 directories .. it's not difficult at all
[12:17] <AntiProxy> guntbert, i know that :) i don't want bind9 listening on every address.. jsut 127.0.0.1
[12:17] <alankila> Somewhat messy, though.
[12:18] <candyban> alankila, what when there are inconsistencies where you have the same filename on 2 disks with different content
[12:18] <calebjohnson> is there an open source unified communications package for linux?
[12:18] <alankila> candyban: unspecified results. The code will take care that this does not ordinarily happen.
[12:18] <Mystik> hi all
[12:18] <calebjohnson> similar to microsoft communications server
[12:18] <Mystik> somebody can help me?
[12:19] <DasEi> how can I reach safemode when booting with lilo ?
[12:19] <alankila> candyban: but if it does, the procedure of making filesystem consistent is to either unlink that file on all volumes, or to select one copy and decide this is the "official" one
[12:19] <budmaester> what to do if dependencies are missing?
[12:19] <justin22885> im really liking this lxde
[12:19] <DasEi> !ask | Mystik
[12:19] <candyban> alankila, what if one of the disks is full and you create a new directory ? :p
[12:20] <alankila> candyban: the mkdir will fail. This is of course a problem area: you have to succeed on all volumes before accepting the modification to the disks.
[12:21] <candyban> alankila, so if you have one full disk, your entire array is losing functionality?
[12:21] <kubanc> i saw that in my fstab there was no auto mounted partition for windows. i added it manualy, but, is default in options field enough for windows partition or should i add something specific?
[12:21] <alankila> candyban: you basically have to have a back-out procedure and locking. Attempt to mkdir on all disks, sync, if any fails, rmdir on all, return error to client. Very annoying, but such is life.
[12:21] <uyg> hi guys.  anyone knows how to manage sound volume without x?
[12:21] <erUSUL> DasEi: add a lilo entry that boots you with single as kernel parameter
[12:21] <nexsja> 'ello. Is it possible to split a partition without formatting it? I've got ~200Gb free on my home partition and i need to get another one with ~40-60Gb, can i do that without losing any data from my /home/ partition?
[12:21] <erUSUL> uyg: alsamixer?
[12:21] <alankila> candyban: yes. The disks would be filled evenly by storing new files on the volume with most space, and user could also rebalance manually, I guess.
[12:21] <erUSUL> nexsja: gparted should be able to do it.
[12:21] <uyg> ok thanks Ill try that,  you guys are great :)
[12:22] <alankila> candyban: the precise mechanics are somewhat difficult to sketch, though.
[12:22] <alankila> candyban: but I'm sure something reasonable could be whipped together.
[12:22] <candyban> alankila, the devil is in the details ;)
[12:22] <uyg> erUSUL:  tested alsamixer and loved it.  so cool
[12:22] <nexsja> erUSUL, do i need to have a live cd available? or i just apt-get and follow the wizard?
[12:22] <candyban> alankila, what if one disk was unavailable, and later added again
[12:22] <DasEi> erUSUL: tried as bootoption, nvm , I'll boot a live and slam grub over over it
[12:23] <Krewl> RPG_Master: Look at your PM, if you still need a hand
[12:23] <erUSUL> nexsja: it weould be easier if you do it from a livecd yes
[12:23] <RPG_Master> Krewl: Did you send me a PM?
[12:24] <Krewl> a lot yeah
[12:24] <alankila> candyban: it results in changes in the union, of course. But the changes are benign: files you have deleted may reappear, some directories that are expected to be there could turn out missing. These are the sort of thing you could and should write a fsck for. On the main I wouldn't expect too many problems, though.
[12:24] <RPG_Master> Krewl: Sorry, Now I see it :P
[12:24] <guntbert> AntiProxy: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-bsd-bind-dns-listenon-configuration/
[12:25] <AntiProxy> guntbert, i saw this before i came here.. it doesn't show any additional directives :(
[12:25] <AntiProxy> my configuration uses the exact same setup ( listen-on... )
[12:25] <Lord-Readman> carl, it got approved http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ideatorrent/idea/23732
[12:25] <alankila> candyban: the point here is to keep it simple. The principal notion is that it's just an union mount: you see all filesystems on top of each other, no file should be on more than one, the same directories should be present on all. Violate these and you need some kind of fsck to recover, but the fsck could easily be online / fix problems as they appear. The only real problem is same file on two devices, because in that case there is no right solution
[12:25] <candyban> alankila, feel free to write it ... no offence, but I will be sticking to LVM ;)
[12:25] <zvacet> kubanc:  see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872197&highlight=pysdm
[12:26] <guntbert> AntiProxy: sorry - yes of course - it seems I'm not too fit today - maybe you better ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:26] <alankila> candyban: yes. I just got the idea that it would be better to define volume expansion with file as the fundamental unit rather than block
[12:27] <alankila> this is much more sysadmin-friendly way to do it, because it avoids the large filesystems problem and there are more tools available -- and ordinary tools at that -- for examining the "fileraid0"
[12:27] <szymon> elo
[12:27] <guntbert> !ot | alankila
[12:27] <szymon> elo
[12:27] <AntiProxy> thanks guntbert  :)
[12:27] <alankila> guntbert: I know. I also mention that I have ignored ubottu long time ago :)
[12:27] <szymon> =)
[12:28] <candyban> alankila, the advantage you would get by the "split" devices is dwarfed by the risk to lose data integrity
[12:28] <candyban> alankila, at leas in my environments
[12:28] <guntbert> alankila: candyban please take that discussion elsewhere - nothing to do with ubuntu support
[12:28] <candyban> alankila, when I delete a file/directory, I want/need it to be permanently gone
[12:29] <Promethes> hi i replaced my ide dvdrw drive with sata dvdrw drive and i cannot burn any cd or dvd anymore, anyone knows where the problem may be?
[12:31] <calebjohnson> how do you get a terminal to stick to your background so it appears as to be the background image?
[12:31] <candyban> Promethes, what is the device you used before? (/dev/dvdrw ?) ... is the symlink perhaps still pointing to the old device /dev/hdx rather than /dev/sdx
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Promethes:  check what /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdrw and other /dev/XXX links are pointing to
[12:33] <Promethes> candyban: /dev/scd0 was before, now is /dev/sr0
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> calebjohnson:  there several tricks to do it. but i dont know what ones work, or any specifc apps for it these days. you may want to google for 'root terminal' or 'terminal in root window'
[12:34] <Krewl> Quick Quiestion, default password for default user in live CD? for becoming Root
[12:35] <bjorn_> How can I mount and watch a dvd iso using linux?
[12:35] <Promethes> Dr_Willis: there is no /dev/dvd or /dev/dvdr in my system
[12:35] <looksharp> Dr
[12:35] <cbsch> Krewl: I think you can `sudo su` without any password on the live cd.
[12:35] <Krewl> ah nice
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> bjorn_:  vlc/mplayer i recall can play the iso file directly.
[12:35] <candyban> Promethes, did you configure your burning software to use the new device? (ps. did you check file permissions?)
[12:35] <AdvoWork> im doing: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.111:zimbra_full_backups /home/zimbra_full_backups  and getting:  mount: 192.168.0.111:zimbra_full_backups failed, reason given by server: Permission denied    any ideas please?
[12:36] <bjorn_> Dr_Willis, brilliant!
[12:36] <guntbert> Krewl: cbsch: just sudo (no need for sudo su)
[12:37] <Krewl> guntbert thanx
[12:37] <Promethes> candyban: yes, everything with permissions is ok /dev/sr0 have 660 with cdrom group
[12:37] <Krewl> and cbsch
[12:37] <candyban> Promethes, and your burning application is using /dev/sr0 rather than /dev/scd0 ?
[12:37] <guntbert> Krewl: if you *really* need a shell with root permissions use sudo -s or sudo -i
[12:38] <candyban> Promethes, you could try to make a symlink ... ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/scd0
[12:38] <Krewl> file recovery in lost+fiund so yes need a root shell, not on my machine though
[12:38] <Promethes> candyban: this symlink already exists,
[12:39] <sp0ckk> ziroday: I've enabled the firewall via UFW and I've configured a few rules too. I've set the firewall to deny by default. Now, I've set the firewal to only allow http and ssh... yet I can ftp and sftp tot he machine?
[12:39] <Promethes> candyban: i use brasero and there is no option to select device, also brasero burns something on cd/dvd, led on drive blinking, but writing ends with error
[12:39] <candyban> Promethes, what is the error?
[12:39] <cbsch> guntbert: Why is `sudo -s` or `sudo -i` preferable to `sudo su`?
[12:40] <guntbert> cbsch: because it keeps your environment sane
[12:40] <Promethes> candyban: raseroWodim stderr: Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> cbsch:  enviroment settings. Theres an artcal on it if you google for 'root shell ubuntu the right way'
[12:41] <guntbert> cbsch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:41] <Lord-Readman> ryan http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ideatorrent/idea/23732
[12:47] <nexsja> if i'm using gparted to resize a partition (i'm booted from livecd), will it format it also? I don't wanna lose all data
[12:47] <candyban> Promethes, dunno what is the problem ... google says there are bugs in Wodim ... and one guy reported that he didn't get the problem with Nero (you could use that as a temporary workaround)
[12:48] <lorenzosu> nexsja, gparted should resize without deleting your data (unless you explicitely format a partion). Anyhow it always  strongly advisable to backup critical files befrore playing with partitions
[12:48] <G_A_C> nexsja: you shouldn't do, I've used the gparted LiveCD to resize partitions plenty of times
[12:49] <G_A_C> however you should always have a backup
[12:49] <G_A_C> and be careful
[12:49] <G_A_C> :)
[12:49] <nexsja> thank you, now i'm confident enough to do that :>
[12:51] <kubanc> is there any command to sort processes by CPU in terminal?
[12:52] <candyban> kubanc, top
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> htop
[12:53] <kubanc> candyban, and how do i sort processes in top ?
[12:54] <justin22885>  question.. if i install lxde.. i do not have the system and configuration tools that gnome has.. any way to add these?
[12:54] <cbsch> kubanc: the keys '<' and '>' selects which column to sort on.
[12:55] <gordonjcp> hi there
[12:55] <gordonjcp> is there an image file rather than an iso of UNR available?
[12:55] <candyban> kubanc, type P
[12:56] <looksharp> Ia ubuntu support monodevelop ?
[12:57] <looksharp> *IS
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> gordonjcp:  not for 9.10
[12:57] <gordonjcp> hm
[12:57] <Guest31305> brasil?
[12:57] <guntbert> !br | Guest31305
[12:58] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: hmm, that's a shame.  I suppose I'd better go and find somewhere that's still got CD writers
[12:59] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: any reason why there's only an iso?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> gordonjcp:  yu can use unetbootin to make a bootabler flash drive
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> or oher toools
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> gordonjcp:  i havn burnt a cd in ages
[13:00] <justin22885> anyone use lxde?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> so theres no real need for the img
[13:00] <justin22885> me neither willis
[13:01] <justin22885> anyone care to explain wth ip v6 is?
[13:02] <iceroot> justin22885: wikipedia
[13:02] <jpds> iceroot: wikipedia is not ipv6.
[13:02] <iceroot> jpds: wikipedia has an article about ipv6
[13:02] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: o_O
[13:02] <jpds> !ipv6 | justin22885
[13:02] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: that's what I mean
[13:02] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: you can't write an ISO to a USB stick, can you?
[13:02] <iceroot> jpds: and he wanted to know what it is
[13:02] <jpds> iceroot: I was joking.
[13:02] <justin22885> seems like ipv6 is just another answer to an unasked question to me
[13:02] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: I don't think I've owned a PC with a CD drive of any kind for about a decade
[13:03] <jpds> justin22885: See the wiki links.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> gordonjcp:  with unetbootin, or usb-disk-creator or other t5ools.. Yes...
[13:03] <justin22885> im trying to figure out lxde right now
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> justin22885:  thers the #lubuntu channel
[13:03] <justin22885> its empty right now
[13:03] <Fudge> lxde rox
[13:04] <justin22885> fudge, where do you get to all the control panel settings?
[13:05] <zeroshell> hi
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> justin22885:  what settings?
[13:06] <justin22885> mouse settings, keyboard settings, display settings, network settings.. list goes on
[13:06] <the_real_dave> !hi | zeroshell
[13:07] <zeroshell> can someone help me on a ubuntu doubt
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> justin22885:  you dont need those :)
[13:07] <justin22885> yes i do
[13:07] <zeroshell> dr_willis
[13:07] <the_real_dave> zeroshell: ask your question mate
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> network settings would be in the network manager tool
[13:07] <justin22885> i cant even sign into my wifi network
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu installed wicd last i tried it
[13:07] <justin22885> how do i get the network manager tool? i dont see it on here
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> or run the nm-applet i guess
[13:08] <tommis> justin22885, wich password system you have
[13:08]  * Dr_Willis recalls there being a reason he dosent like lxde
[13:08] <justin22885> i dont have a password on my wifi network
[13:08] <zeroshell> how can i see whether Im using a beta version or a final version of ubuntu?
[13:08] <DasEi> !version| zeroshell
[13:08] <DasEi> !karmic
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> there is no beta versionr iht now. :) its like an alpha
[13:09] <DasEi> !lucid | zeroshell
[13:09] <justin22885> i think i need to install the broadcom drivers first... which dont seem to be installed initially
[13:09] <Madpilot> zeroshell, System->About Ubuntu will give you a version number & name
[13:09] <justin22885> i wonder.. could you guys tell me whats better, a generic broadcom wifi card, or the intel 3945abg card?
[13:10] <zeroshell> what is this? core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:cxx-3.0-ia32:cxx-3.0-noarch:cxx-3.1-ia32:cxx-3.1-noarch:cxx-3.2-ia32:cxx-3.2-noarch:cxx-4.0-ia32:cxx-4.0-noarch:desktop-3.1-ia32:desktop-3.1-noarch:desktop-3.2-ia32:desktop-3.2-noarch:desktop-4.0-ia32:desktop-4.0-noarch:graphics-2.0-ia32:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-ia32:graphics-3.0-n
[13:10] <zeroshell> oarch:graphics-3.1-ia32:graphics-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.2-ia32:graphics-3.2-noarch:graphics-4.0-ia32:graphics-4.0-noarch:qt4-3.1-ia32:qt4-3.1-noarch
[13:10] <ikonia> zeroshell: what do you mean ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> justin22885:  given the # of issues ive seen people have with broadcom.. id be tempted to say intel
[13:10] <zeroshell> this is what came when i typed lsb_release
[13:10] <ikonia> zeroshell: you've just pasted 1 thing a zone of times
[13:10] <guntbert> zeroshell: lsb_release -a
[13:11] <ikonia> ahhh gunbert, pm ?
[13:11] <guntbert> ikonia: any time
[13:11] <ziroday> sp0ckk: you still there?
[13:11] <justin22885> dr_willis.. i have the 3945 from an old notebook of mine that still works.. would take me about 15 minutes to swap it out
[13:11] <zeroshell> ok thank you
[13:11] <zeroshell> i have another question
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> justin22885:   may as well try it
[13:12] <the_real_dave> zeroshell: just ask mate
[13:12] <zeroshell> is it a live cd in official ubuntu website?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> zeroshell: repharase the question
[13:13] <DJones> zeroshell: Yes, the Desktop cd is the live cd
[13:13] <DasEi> zeroshell: there are live cd's amongst other types as well
[13:13] <sp0ckk> ziroday: I am.
[13:13] <misterB> Anybody know of a GUI interface for the task scheduler in Hardy?
[13:13] <ziroday> sp0ckk: did you work it out?
[13:13] <sp0ckk> ziroday: I ended up locking my self out of the VPS. I had to reboot it. I accidentally flushed all the iptables rules.
[13:13] <zeroshell> you mean in ubuntu official website?
[13:13] <DJones> !livecd | zeroshell
[13:13] <ziroday> sp0ckk: oof, nasty. Want to try again?
[13:13] <zeroshell> DJ jones
[13:13] <pozic> Is there a way to have Synaptic use multiple servers in parallel?
[13:14] <zeroshell> any one tried lucid lynix here?
[13:14] <ziroday> pozic: in parallel?
[13:14] <ziroday> zeroshell: probably a few in #ubuntu+1
[13:14] <pozic> ziroday: yes, I am on a fast network. The package servers are relatively slow.
[13:14] <sp0ckk> ziroday: Well, the rules are still present for UFW. I can still ftp to the box (well, I can't now that i've killed the vsftpd server)
[13:14] <DJones> zeroshell: There's two different cd's you can download from the Ubuntu website, the desktop (livecd) and the alternate install cd, the alternate cd isn't a live one though and uses a text based installer
[13:15] <zeroshell> but there is only one link in the website
[13:15] <pozic> ziroday: so, if all the packages where simply downloaded from 10 different servers, my connection would be saturated.
[13:15] <ziroday> sp0ckk: okay, can you pastebin the output of sudo ufw status and sudo iptables -L please
[13:16] <zeroshell> what about CDimahge.ubunutu website, is is a same website from ubuntu?
[13:16] <ziroday> pozic: apt does that automatically, I recommend you go to System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From: > Other > Select Best Server
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> !download
[13:16] <zeroshell> ok
[13:16] <pozic> ziroday: a best server is not necessarily as fast as one link.
[13:16] <sp0ckk> ziroday: That seems like I'd be giving you sensitive information.
[13:17] <ziroday> sp0ckk: no, only the current firewall rules in place.
[13:17] <ziroday> pozic: right, well the short answer is essentially no.
[13:17] <zeroshell> ubottu: where can i download ubuntu live cds than?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !download | zeroshell
[13:18] <zeroshell> Dr_willis, what?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> zeroshell:  you got an answer....
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> zeroshell:  and thats a bot you are talking to...
[13:18] <zeroshell> im new here... sorry hehehe
[13:20] <zeroshell> i have a dell inspiron 640m notebook, and intel 256 gma
[13:20] <justin22885>  opening my laptop up now to install the intel wifi
[13:20] <cnvl> When using TV-Out with nvidia's binary driver, my TV picture extends past the edges of my TV. How do I fix this?
[13:21] <ziroday> sp0ckk: thanks, but I don't see how anyone could compromise your system with that information :)
[13:21] <El_Presidente> hi, i have two soundcards (onboard + audigy) now i would love to tell pulseaudio to do in and output for skype on my onboard soundcard and all other apps should use the audigy
[13:21] <El_Presidente> is this possible ?
[13:22] <zeroshell> i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:22] <jt76> El_Presidente: You can choose what audio skype using in its options screen
[13:22] <sp0ckk> ziroday: OK, not to worry then.
[13:23] <El_Presidente> jt76, no :( i just see the pulseaudio server there
[13:24] <zeroshell> Dr_willis: i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:24] <eastbaynight> so, i can't seem to get my sound inputs to work
[13:25] <eastbaynight> i'm trying to record guitar, to try and multi-track it, but i can't seem to get it work
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> zer0ne:  my intel video cards work with my external monitors.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> oops he left.
[13:26] <jt76> El_Presidente: Do you have alsa installed on your ubuntu machine? And/OR have u tried installing esound?
[13:26] <justin22885> intel 3945abg card now installed
[13:26] <El_Presidente> its a fresh 9.10 installation with no customizations
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  skype might not play nicey. Theres some exta pulse audio tools that may let you tweak the pulse settings also
[13:27] <K3rl0u4rn> hello, I am still using jaunty and wonder if it is possible to upgrade mplayer/mencoder to what karmic proposes
[13:27] <K3rl0u4rn> what do you think ?
[13:27] <zeroshell_> i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:27] <zeroshell_> i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:27] <El_Presidente> Dr_Willis, where can i find these tools?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  look in the packagte manager
[13:28] <Flipz> my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now?
[13:28] <El_Presidente> kk ty
[13:28] <arman> join #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> they got odd names like 'pavSOMTHING' i recall
[13:28] <arman> inch ka chka
[13:28] <syrius> I found a problem to the <Mod4>E and <Mod4>R. would anyone like to know the solution?
[13:28] <zeroshell_> i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:28] <zeroshell_> i have a intel 256 graphics card in my laptop, i need to connect it to a 23" lcd, will it work?
[13:29] <syrius> I mean I found the solution to that problem
[13:29] <El_Presidente> there is pavucontrol
[13:29] <justin22885> ok.. dont
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> zeroshell_: :  my intel video cards work with my external monitors.
[13:29] <K3rl0u4rn> zeroshell_: don't double post your messages, if you do, it is most likely that nobody will answer you
[13:29] <zeroshell_> sorry - it will not happen again
[13:29] <eastbaynight> so yeah, i'm trying to record some acoustic guitar stuff on my computer and i'm plugging directly in, is that the problem?
[13:30] <zeroshell_> exit
[13:30] <sudeep> how to change screen resolution. i tried doing from system>preference>display. but i am not getting the option 1024x768
[13:31] <Flipz> my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now?
[13:32] <Gadget3000> Flipz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[13:33] <sudeep> how to change screen resolution. i tried doing from system>preference>display. but i am not getting the option 1024x768
[13:33] <sudeep> how to change screen resolution. i tried doing from system>preference>display. but i am not getting the option 1024x768
[13:33] <sudeep> how to change screen resolution. i tried doing from system>preference>display. but i am not getting the option 1024x768
[13:33] <dias> hello everyone
[13:34] <dias> i need some help with my sony vaio brightness settings
[13:34] <macman_>  .. question .. it might sound dumb but i wanted to ask .. there a way to share a usb connection .. ie i have an external plugged into 1 laptop and i have another laptop close by .. there a usb connection / firewire that can connect both of them ? or is the best way to share via samba ?
[13:34] <ubuntu_> is there program to text web cam output
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  ive heard of a tool todo that.. but never tried it. and i cant rember iuts name
[13:34] <ubuntu_> test not text sorry
[13:34] <guntbert> !repeat | sudeep
[13:35] <K3rl0u4rn> macman_: is it a file system you want to share ?
[13:35] <dias> can somebody help me plz?
[13:35] <macman_> K3rl0u4rn: the external is ntfs
[13:35] <guntbert> !ask | dias
[13:35] <AdvoWork> if im doing: mount -t nfs 192.168.0.27:/mnt/Data/FILES/FILES/BACKUPS/zimbra_full_backups/ /home/new_zimbra_full_backups  how would i do that in /etc/fstab?
[13:35] <K3rl0u4rn> macman_: so either share with nfs, samba, sshfs, whatever... it is not USB related
[13:36] <dias> thanx sorry
[13:36] <macman_> K3rl0u4rn: out of all those methods witch is the fastest ?
[13:36] <Flipz> Gadget3000 I need help with getting my netgear card to work
[13:36] <K3rl0u4rn> macman_: do you mean in bandwidth or setup ?
[13:36] <K3rl0u4rn> nfs is probably the fastest anyway
[13:36] <El_Presidente> Dr_Willis, partly success
[13:36] <Gadget3000> Flipz: Do you know if it's compatiable with ndiswrapper?
[13:37] <El_Presidente> ty
[13:37] <Flipz> how do i check
[13:37] <macman_> K3rl0u4rn: i will be doing a lot of coverting .. the external has pure movies *.mpg files .. i will be ffmepging all day .. i want to be able to convert withouth anything lagging
[13:37] <ubuntu_> does ubuntu have anything built in to test a web cam ?
[13:37] <jackbrown> guys i'm experiencing problems with usb-creator-gtk ? Can anyone help me ?
[13:37] <Gadget3000> Flipz: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?joomla/index.php
[13:37] <overmind> ubuntu_: Try "cheese"
[13:37] <eastbaynight> do i need to get a plug in for ubuntu to record music with it? for my input? or is it just my lack of amplification?
[13:38] <guntbert> !details | jackbrown
[13:38] <Flipz> gadget3000
[13:38] <skbohra> is there no way I can install wvdial using apt-get ?
[13:38] <Flipz> I'm completely new to ubuntu
[13:38] <ubuntu_> overmind,  thanks!
[13:38] <K3rl0u4rn> macman_: if you are doing encoding, this process is more time consuming than transfer, so you should not care about it
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> !info wvdial
[13:38] <Gadget3000> Flipz: ok. What card are you using?
[13:38] <jackbrown> usb-creator-gtk i'm running Ubuntu 9.10 when i hope USB Creator the GUI appears but i'm unable to add an .iso image (it's a linux distro )
[13:38] <Flipz>  My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter
[13:39] <lovehacker> fm1.irc.gr
[13:39] <skbohra> Dr_Willis: what does that mean ?
[13:39] <jackbrown> ?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> jackbrown:  is it a Ubuntu/varuabt disrto?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> skbohra:  wvdial is in the repos.
[13:39] <guntbert> dias: you should tell us your problem - its difficult to give an answer if there is no real question
[13:39] <skbohra> it says there is no such package :(
[13:39] <justin22885> haha
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> skbohra:  sudo apt-get install whatever
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> skbohra:  update/upgrade/try again
[13:39] <ubuntu_> overmind,  that worked great man thanks alot
[13:39] <jackbrown> Dr_Willis thanks for answer no it's Anonymous OS Linux.iso
[13:39] <shifftyonejr> Could I get help with a boot issue please?  Here is what I get on boot: "GRUB loading." "error: out of partition" "grub rescue>"
[13:40] <overmind> ubuntu_: No problem :)
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> jackbrown:  I think that tool only works with ubuntu relateive
[13:40] <justin22885> when i went to swap out wifi adapters, i accidently put the old one back in.. didnt realize it until i put the entire laptop back together
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> jackbrown:  try unetbootin
[13:40] <jackbrown> Dr_Willis thanks may be you are right
[13:40] <Gadget3000> Flipz: Do you have the windows driver for it?
[13:40] <shifftyonejr> I have 2 hard drives.  160 and 160.  Drive 2 is NTFS/ext2 Ubuntu 9.10
[13:40] <Gadget3000> Flipz: You need WG311v3.INF and WG311v3XP.sys from the cd
[13:40] <dias> i have a sony vaio vgn-nr21s with ubunyu 9.10 64bit. my fn keys for breightness adjustment don't work at all
[13:41] <dias> is there any fix for this issue
[13:41] <dias> ?
[13:41] <jackbrown> Dr_Willis: can't find the package for ubuntu 9.10 https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ppa
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> dias:  check the forums for the exact make laptop. there maybe some fix/work arounds
[13:41] <ghostlines> it isn't possible to make a backup of an entire system while it's running right?
[13:41] <ghostlines> unless lvm is used
[13:41] <ghostlines> ???
[13:42] <dias> ok thanx
[13:42] <shifftyonejr> IS this the wrong room for getting boot assistance?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> jackbrown:  did you do a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' THEN try installing it with 'sudo apt-get install wvdial' ?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> ghostlines:  thers always change that cold get missed. but its possible
[13:42] <miniBill> When I try to update with synaptic (or aptitude) it trows me a helluva of errors
[13:42] <BjornR1989> Are BNC's allowed on this channel?
[13:42] <jackbrown> Dr_Willis no iu willl try to use these commands tnx
[13:42] <guntbert> shifftyonejr: if you OS is ubuntu this is the place for you
[13:43] <justin22885> who needs info about unetbootin?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> jackbrown:  thats why i said to update/upgrade/try again
[13:43] <miniBill> anyone?
[13:43] <overmind> !anyone | miniBill
[13:43] <shifftyonejr> Right now I am in Ubuntu 9 liveCD hoping to get boot fixed.  I cannot access Windows or Linux right now.
[13:43] <miniBill>  When I try to update with synaptic (or aptitude) it trows me a helluva of errors
[13:43] <koalinux> hi, do you know if there is a graphical tool which makes filesystem images?
[13:43] <overmind> miniBill: What erros?
[13:43] <jackbrown> Dr_Willis: first step sudo apt-get update is workgin
[13:44] <shifftyonejr> I am trying to use WIndows/Ubuntu on the same computer.
[13:44] <overmind> miniBill: About cache, repos...?
[13:44] <Flipz> Gadget3000 where do I get that?
[13:44] <miniBill> overmind: cannot resolve addresses
[13:44] <Krewl> koalinux: try the PING iso image, Ping Is Not Ghost
[13:44] <koalinux> thanks
[13:44] <psycho_oreos> Flipz, usually it comes with the wireless card, just curiously can you pastebin your lspci -nnk output?
[13:44] <Gadget3000> Flipz: From the driver cd. I'll have a quick look for a download as well
[13:44] <Blagoicho> #
[13:44] <miniBill> overmind: if I change http to ftp I get connection error 110
[13:45] <miniBill> I've got the italian locale, so I dunno the precise error msg
[13:45] <overmind> miniBill: Have you got any other repo added to list repos list? For example Tor, Medibuntu...
[13:45] <miniBill> overmind: virtualbox and some ppas
[13:45] <miniBill> overmind: but google's works
[13:46] <Gadget3000> Flipz: Infact I've just found this article that takes you through the whole process: http://rochakchauhan.com/blog/2009/07/06/how-to-install-netgear-wg311v3-wireless-card-driver-in-ubuntu-9/
[13:46] <kwtm> Hi.  How do I find/get the source for a certain package, like "hnb"?  Do I say "apt-get source hnb" or what?
[13:46] <Flipz> thanks gadget3000
[13:46] <koalinux> Krewl:is it a bootable iso?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  if you got the soruce repos enabled.. its sonmthing like that
[13:46] <overmind> miniBill: Have you tried disabling them and reloading again synaptic's program list?
[13:46] <shifftyonejr> Who knows how to fix boot issues, please?
[13:46] <alankila> kwtm: why don't you try it?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> shifftyonejr:  state the actual issue and see who knows
[13:46] <miniBill> overmind: trying now...
[13:47] <shifftyonejr>  Here is what I get on boot: "GRUB loading." "error: out of partition" "grub rescue>"
[13:47] <overmind> miniBill: Okay
[13:47] <Gadget3000> Flipz: Glad I could help
[13:47] <Flipz> I'll be back
[13:47] <Flipz> if I need halps
[13:47] <jve> I have 2 soundcards. How do i select which to use from console?
[13:47] <shifftyonejr> I have XP installed, then I installed Ubuntu 9 on a second hard drive and a reboot when prompted gave me those messages.
[13:48] <Krewl> koalinux: yes, and you can drop an image on a network drive if you like
[13:48] <kwtm> alankila: Because it might do something subtly unexpected and make me spend hours cleaning things up.
[13:48] <the_real_dave> shifftyonejr; try re-installing grub2? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[13:48] <miniBill> overmind: o_O I reverted to http and now everything magically works :|
[13:48] <the_real_dave> shifftyonejr: ubuntu 9.10 or 9.04?
[13:49] <shifftyonejr> Ubuntu 9.10 I believe.
[13:49] <alankila> kwtm: well, make a sandbox and play there.
[13:49] <overmind> miniBill: Great :)
[13:49] <shifftyonejr> Downloaded from the website.
[13:49] <alankila> kwtm: specifically, make a new user account, log on as that, don't sudo a single command.
[13:49] <alankila> kwtm: if you mess up, just delete the user and start over. Safe way to explore commands like apt-get source that are safe and don't need root.
[13:50] <miniBill> overmind: the overall fix was just setting anything .ubuntu.com to ftp, and anything else to http
[13:50] <kwtm> alankila: sorry, it sounds like you're saying I don't need sudo to get the source?
[13:50] <alankila> kwtm: indeed.
[13:50] <the_real_dave> shifftyonejr: try going into system>administration>system monitor click the system tab and tell us what version :)
[13:50] <wook> hello
[13:51] <the_real_dave> !hi | wook
[13:51] <kwtm> alankila: AHA!  You just GAVE ME SOME INFORMATION!! You were trying to make me find out for myself but I TRICKED YOU INTO HELPING ME!!!  HA HA Ha Ha ha ha ...
[13:51] <shifftyonejr> I am running the liveCD right now.
[13:51] <kwtm> alankila: just kidding.
[13:51] <overmind> miniBill: Maybe you had wrong written server link.
[13:52] <shifftyonejr> 9.10
[13:52] <kwtm> alankila: seriously, thanks for the info.  I feel better playing in a sandbox knowing that not all apt-get commandes have to be sudo.
[13:52] <miniBill> overmind: dunno :) anyway, it now works
[13:52] <shifftyonejr> Karmic
[13:53] <the_real_dave> shifftyonejr: ok, follow the link I sent you above to re-install the Grub2 bootloader. May solve the problem, but it might not.
[13:53] <mrbrdo> is it possible to run a gui program with ignoring the gui (i.e. on a server)? of course having all the necessary gui libraries installed
[13:53] <miniBill> overmind: :( now it complains about no such file or directory when actually updating :/
[13:53] <overmind> miniBill: What's the exactly error?
[13:54] <Guest1536> hi
[13:54] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: I beliebe you can tunnel it through ssh... adding a -X option or something. A faint memory, sorry :(
[13:54] <the_real_dave> *believe
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> mrbrdo:  you could run it inside a vnc session. Or have it export the display to another machine
[13:54] <the_real_dave> !hi | Guest1536
[13:55] <mrbrdo> the_real_dave yeah that works fine but i want to run it "in background" even when i'm not logged on
[13:56] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: what gui program? There's probably a CLI program to do the same job
[13:56] <sayanriju> Is it possible to generate a package download script (like synaptic does), but exclusively from the command line?
[13:56] <Myrtti> sayanriju: are you aware of aptitude?
[13:56] <mrbrdo> the_real_dave utorrent through wine, so no sadly :)
[13:56] <ghostlines> Dr_Willis, ok thanks man, i want to backup of vm images, so it's just better to turn them off first then back them up
[13:56] <umang> sayanriju, or apt-get?
[13:56] <ajah> can someone tell me how to set up my public directory in samba or atleast point an article
[13:57] <shifftyonejr> That is all confusing.  IS there another way?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | ajah
[13:57] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: why not use rTorrent? :) Its a great CLI torrent program, and KMandla has a great guide. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  theres exmaple entries in the smb.conf file i belive
[13:58] <sayanriju> Myrtti, umang are you aware of what exactly a package download script synaptic creates looks like?
[13:58] <sayanriju> I just need to generate the URL-s
[13:58] <umang> sayanriju, ok. I got you wrong. I think there is. let me check
[13:59] <mrbrdo> the_real_dave i tried a few linux clients but none worked for me. the best was deluge but it was still too buggy
[13:59] <Guest_2> o/
[13:59] <LaireTM> Hello, after installing ubuntu i becom this error wehn i try to boot: Error 15
[13:59] <Guest_2> LaireTM, buy Windows.
[14:00] <jrib> Guest_2: if you aren't going to be helpful, please don't speak at all
[14:00] <Guest_2> :(
[14:00] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: rTorrent works flawlessly on my server. You can even edit the config to make it autoload torrents that are put in a directory, delete torrents or stop seeding when they're done, throttle bandwidth, and more. Give it a shot. It's also a lot easier on memory than other clients
[14:01] <mrbrdo> the_real_dave does it have a webui
[14:01] <ajah> Dr_Willis i want to access from vista machine to ubuntu machine , from vista machine i see i have public directory but it prompts me for username password and password if u tell me where is my shares on ubuntu machine and how to create username this will ease me
[14:02] <umang> sayanriju, you want to install the packages that you have downloaded using a download script right?
[14:02] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: not that i know of. If you want a WebUI, maybe try Transmission? As far as I know, that does. rTorrent is a CLI program, but its very simple :)
[14:02] <penelope_cruz199> quien eres
[14:02] <sayanriju> umang, not exactly. I just need a way to generate the respective urls
[14:02] <Plinker_> Hi penelope
[14:03] <penelope_cruz199> kien soys
[14:03] <penelope_cruz199> no os conosco
[14:03] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, how to do with another x-screen? connecting tv to pc and creating a second x-screen, how to switch to it?
[14:03] <sayanriju> umang, I have already coded a solution, but its not working 100% well
[14:03] <LaireTM> Hello, after installing ubuntu i becom this error wehn i try to boot: Error 15
[14:03] <umang> sayanriju, you want to typing in "some-command foobarpackage" and generate that download script?
[14:03] <penelope_cruz199> mira hablas español¿?
[14:04] <DJones> !es | penelope_cruz199
[14:04] <ubuntnut> hey this is funny im ubuntnut
[14:04] <sayanriju> umang, it'd suffice if "somecommand packagename" returns the complete download url
[14:04] <the_real_dave> mrbrdo: hang on, yes, it appears it can have a WebUI. Its called rTWi. I've never used it, so can't comment, just Googled
[14:04] <ubuntnut> funny?
[14:04] <sayanriju> umang, someone at #debian pointed /me to apt-zip. Looking into it now.
[14:04] <penelope_cruz199> buaaaaaaaa
[14:04] <penelope_cruz199> buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:04] <penelope_cruz199> buaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:04] <overmind> !ops
[14:04] <ubuntnut> dude stop!
[14:04] <DJones> Please don't do that penelope_cruz199
[14:04] <penelope_cruz199> hi what yor name
[14:05] <ubuntnut> me
[14:05] <penelope_cruz199> yes
[14:05] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[14:05] <Myrtti> !es | penelope_cruz199
[14:05] <ubuntnut> ubuntunut
[14:05] <fhjgfdfgg> fuck
[14:05] <DJones> penelope_cruz199: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, not a general chat room, do you have a support question
[14:05] <ubuntnut> yes
[14:05] <overmind> !language | fhjgfdfgg
[14:05] <fhjgfdfgg> sf
[14:06] <fhjgfdfgg> idiots
[14:06] <kasun> hello
[14:06] <ubuntnut> i have ubuntu kernal and i want torun a app that lets me so i can walk into my house and have all
[14:06] <ubuntnut> of my
[14:06] <ubuntnut> emails
[14:06] <the_real_dave> !hi | kasun
[14:06] <ubuntnut> sync
[14:06] <ubuntnut> with
[14:06] <FloodBot1> ubuntnut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <ubuntnut> my ipod touch
[14:06] <overmind> Thanks jpds.
[14:06] <ubuntnut> sorry
[14:07] <kasun> thanks ubottu!
[14:07] <kasun> hey the_real_dave
[14:07] <ubuntnut> can any one help me though?
[14:07] <w_a> is there a good irc client like mirc to linux ?
[14:07] <erUSUL> w_a: xchat
[14:07] <the_real_dave> kasun: howdy. Have you a question? :)
[14:07] <ubuntnut> i have a question
[14:07] <DasEi> !enter | ubuntnut , yes, see
[14:08] <DasEi> !ipod
[14:08] <ubuntnut> ok sorry
[14:08] <w_a> thanks
[14:08] <ubuntnut> no problem
[14:08] <ubuntnut> this is so cool though!!!!!!!!!
[14:08] <kasun> howdy the_real_dave. this is my first on irc. thought to join to #ubuntu channel first.
[14:09] <mikay> hey guys, just installed window$ 7, how can I add it to the grub menu?
[14:09] <DJones> !grub | mikay
[14:09] <ubuntnut> hey how do u duel boot 7 and puppy?
[14:09] <the_real_dave> kasun: #ubuntu is a support channel. Maybe try #ubuntu-offftopic
[14:09] <DJones> mikay: See the section about Lost Grub after installing Windows
[14:10] <ubuntnut> my pc keeps crashing
[14:10] <mikay> DJones:  cheers
[14:10] <autoclesis> !puppy
[14:10] <laith> hi
[14:10] <antismap> hi
[14:10] <ubuntnut> yea puppy why?
[14:10] <antismap> !password
[14:10] <patsbin> morning, I have the problem that I can't mount a partition. I have 2 sata disks installed. sda is encrypted with luks and partitioned with lvm. sdb is one big 250GB ntfs partition. After boot cat /proc/partitions just shows /dev/sdb but not /dev/sdb1. fdisk -l shows both. After I run blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sdb, sdb1 is listed but even as root I can't mount it using mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data. Other ntfs disks work just fine.
[14:10] <the_real_dave> !hi | laith
[14:11] <ubuntnut> i LOVE UBUNTU
[14:11] <theadmin> Are the commands in user's crontab executed as root or as this user?
[14:11] <gnomefreak> ubuntnut: please keep it support related or join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[14:11] <ubuntnut> hey how do i get ubuntu on a psp?
[14:11] <theadmin> ubuntnut: Only PS3 maybe, but not PSP
[14:12] <ubuntnut> o
[14:12] <ubuntnut> thx
[14:12] <the_real_dave> theadmin: as the user. if you want to excute a cron as root use sudo nano /etc/crontab
[14:12] <gnomefreak> !psp > ubuntnut
[14:12] <erUSUL> theadmin: the later afaik
[14:12] <ubuntnut> what about wii?
[14:13] <theadmin> the_real_dave, erUSUL: Hm, strange... I have "@reboot cd /home/r00t/Programs/noip-duc-linux && ./noip2-i686 -c no-ip2.conf" in my crontab, but it gets executed as root (can see that from htop, root owns the process)
[14:13] <ubuntnut> it not opensource but i can hack!
[14:13] <erUSUL> patsbin: what errors you get from the mount command
[14:13] <gnomefreak> ubuntnut: please read the message from ubottu
[14:13] <ubuntnut> i di!
[14:13] <ubuntnut> i mean i did!
[14:13] <Gaudi> hello guys
[14:13] <Gaudi> I could use some help is anybody is available
[14:13] <the_real_dave> theadmin: something to do with the particular command i suppose?
[14:13] <ubuntnut> why? u trellin me what to do kac k a ss
[14:14] <patsbin> erUSUL: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[14:14] <ubuntnut> goodbye!
[14:14] <theadmin> the_real_dave: Hm, rather, with the process
[14:14] <patsbin> ersoy: fuser and lsof doesn't show anything
[14:14] <erUSUL> patsbin: sudo lsof /dev/sdb1
[14:14] <erUSUL> patsbin: :/
[14:15] <buglessdog> Hey,  may someone how to use the package diveintopython I apt-getde?  It is a book..
[14:15] <buglessdog> I don't kown how to read it?
[14:15] <Gaudi> I cant start my ubuntu after a reboot
[14:16] <theadmin> Gaudi: What do you get?
[14:16] <Gaudi> Nothing
[14:16] <Gaudi> I had an Software Index error
[14:16] <Gaudi> let me tell you exactly which one I got
[14:16] <Gaudi> "Software Index is Broken. Impossible to install or remove any software"
[14:16] <Gaudi> then out of panic I rebooted
[14:16] <ardian> Guys i want to install just KDE without the apps is that possible im using ubuntu with gnome right now ?
[14:17] <JoshuaL> anyone else having issues with gwibber and the timeline being empty?
[14:17] <theadmin> ardian: Yeah just install "kde" package... or was it "kde4"?
[14:17] <LaireTM> hello, i search tool wich help to chech the security level from my linux system
[14:17] <ardian> im not sure
[14:17] <Gaudi> and now I cann't innitiate it said something about contac my admin and it just got stuck
[14:17] <ardian> i think something like this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:17] <hakaishi> Hi, would anyone be interested in https://launchpad.net/~hakaishi/+archive/qt-program-starter ? - qt-program-starter is a program to start any command or program. It is able to save any output or error output each into a text file and to start at a certain time, to shutdown or just quit, after the process is finished.
[14:17] <Gaudi> nothing happened for 30 minutes so I manually reboot
[14:17] <JoshuaL> nvm it works already
[14:18] <Gaudi> and now I can't do anything it won't get past the little circle screen
[14:18] <wook> hello, can i install software from usb stick on ubuntu?
[14:18] <nmvictor> i wish to sync my tomboy note with an ssh server , anyone know the procedure?I am running jaunty
[14:18] <erUSUL> patsbin: nothing out of normal in dmesg either?
[14:18] <igna> hola estupidos
[14:18] <Gaudi> tried to enter the recovery console and I tog this "[drm: intelfb_panic] *ERROR* panic occurred, switching back to text console"
[14:18] <theadmin> !es | igna
[14:19] <Moat> Gadget3000?
[14:19] <igna> no me da la gana irme a otro sitio
[14:19] <patsbin> erUSUL: Nope. dmesg doesn't show anything. Only this after the blockdev command: [ 3489.417258]  sdb: sdb1
[14:20] <igna> hola subnormales
[14:20] <wook> hola same
[14:20] <HandyGandy> Does anyone know if  karmic will suport kde 4.4 soon?
[14:20] <wook> ahh
[14:21] <theadmin> HandyGandy: It will be in Lucid i belive. You can activate the backports repository to get it earlier, but it ain't there yet.
[14:22] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work
[14:22] <sapik> hi !
[14:22] <Moat> can anyone help?
[14:22] <iceroot> HandyGandy: not in the official repos
[14:22] <erUSUL> !latest | HandyGandy
[14:22] <nmvictor> which package provide fuse, in jaunty?
[14:22] <iceroot> nmvictor: apt-cache search fuse
[14:24] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work I have downloaded Ndiswrapper, but I am stuck, I am completely new to ubuntu, anyone know who could help me or a room i can be diected too?
[14:24] <Some_Person> Is it possible to mount an ext4 partition in Windows?
[14:24] <ichat> im trying to share my scanner via ubuntu 9.10  alternate (x64)  text install   -   with  sane-twain
[14:25] <Myrtti> Some_Person: not that I'm aware of
[14:25] <ichat> Some_Person:  - no it is NOT  ext3 is the lastest (but only in read only)  -  ext can be writbale but crashes often ...
[14:25] <phoenix91290> hello all
[14:26] <sebsebseb> Hi
[14:26] <rfgergrthnre> i installed karmic and then i put in windows vista dual boot - it works gr8 but now i find my wireless in karmic is broken, do u think vista partition has something to do with it?
[14:26] <ichat> Some_Person:  -  youd be better of mount NTFS in ubuntu than to mount any linux-FS  in windows
[14:26] <phoenix91290> check your drivers
[14:26] <miriam> holaa
[14:27] <rfgergrthnre> my drivers are ok
[14:27] <Myrtti> !es | miriam
[14:27] <theadmin> rfgergrthnre: Nah, vista partition won't do any bad
[14:27] <Some_Person> ichat: I actually want to use it to save Windows Media Center recordings to it. There is about 65GB free space on my Linux partition vs 20GB on my Windows partition
[14:27] <phoenix91290> did you install any new headers?
[14:27] <miriam> spainh?
[14:27] <rfgergrthnre> cool
[14:27] <jpds> !es | miriam
[14:27] <miriam> quien erees?
[14:27] <rfgergrthnre> mayb i just need to defrag
[14:28] <Gaudi> miriam es un robot
[14:28] <rfgergrthnre> how can i defrag in ubunto theadmin?
[14:28] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work I have downloaded Ndiswrapper, but I am stuck, I am completely new to ubuntu, anyone know who could help me or a room i can be diected too?
[14:28] <miriam> adioss
[14:28] <Gaudi> si quieres ayuda en español entra a ubuntu-es
[14:28] <sebsebseb> !defrag | rfgergrthnre
[14:28] <Some_Person> ichat: Furthermore, I have mounted ext3 without problems before
[14:28] <theadmin> rfgergrthnre: lol. Linux filesystems don't need defragmenting
[14:28] <theadmin> ...Now THAT needs fixing. Default Ubuntu filesystem is ext4
[14:28] <solid999> Hi all - after a crash just after using update manages, firefox doesn't start and making a new ~/.mozilla does not help. How can i use aptitute etc to force rebuild of all dependencies for Firefox?
[14:28] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: The default  file system is Ext4  with 9.10, previous versions Ext3.  However yes you don't need to defrag  Ext4/3
[14:29] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: or other Linux file systems
[14:29] <theadmin> sebsebseb: Would that include ReiserFS?
[14:29] <sebsebseb> theadmin: as far as I know yes, I don't use ReiserFS
[14:29] <littlegreen> solid999 why don't you reinstall firefox ?
[14:30] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: Defraging file systems is very much so a Windows thing
[14:30] <solid999> littlegreen: already did, no effect
[14:30] <igna> capullos todos
[14:30] <igna> que os den
[14:30] <ichat> anyone got some experiance with  sane  and sane-twain
[14:30] <debra> Can someone help me to figure out a problem with Firefox? I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and have the latest updates installed. When I do a search on Firefox, (no matter what search engine) it just hangs as if it's searching. I tried downloading google chrome and it does the same thing. Any ideas where I should start looking?
[14:30] <Some_Person> If ext4 cannot be mounted in Windows, can I at least convert it to ext3 without formatting so it can be mounted?
[14:30] <solid999> I want to be able to rebuild all dependencies for firefox, like xulrunner etc
[14:30] <littlegreen> solid999 uninstalling firefox uninstalls the dependancies, if I remember correctly. So reinstalling dependancies only won't solve the problem
[14:31] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, according to wikipedia, u are wrong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation
[14:31] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work I have downloaded Ndiswrapper, but I am stuck, I am completely new to ubuntu, anyone know who could help me or a room i can be diected too?
[14:31] <solid999> are you sure?
[14:31] <littlegreen> solid999 give me a sec to check it out.
[14:31] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: I didn't say it coudn't be done,  most people won't do it though for both Ext3 and Ext4
[14:31] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: since they don't have a proper reason to do it
[14:31] <igna> capullos
[14:31] <nastas> hi all
[14:31] <phoenix91290> hi
[14:32] <rfgergrthnre> the article says fragmentation does occur tho, sebsebseb
[14:32] <debra> Moat, just ask your question in here
[14:32] <Moat> i did
[14:32] <the_real_dave> !hi | nastas, phoenix91290
[14:32] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: probably a little bit, but not enough to effect things,  like what would happen with NTFS or Fat32
[14:32] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work I have downloaded Ndiswrapper, but I am stuck, I am completely new to ubuntu...so can i have step by step instructions/
[14:32] <Moat> I'm running ubuntu 9.10 and I have netgear wg311v3. I can't get it to work I have downloaded Ndiswrapper, but I am stuck, I am completely new to ubuntu...so can i have step by step instructions?
[14:32] <solid999> littlegreen: just tried to reinstall using synaptic, it doesnt clear deps afaics
[14:33] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: also Wikipedia tends to be alright for tech stuff, but you can't guarantee that it's 100% correct
[14:33] <nastas> Moat: don't repeat the same question
[14:33] <Moat> it was
[14:33] <Moat> an accident
[14:33] <debra> Moat, just give it a little while for someone to answer
[14:33] <Moat> kk
[14:33] <nastas> Moat: now describe your problem
[14:33] <Moat> i said it
[14:33] <Moat> I can't connect to wireless
[14:34] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, i had xp for 5 years and needed to defragment twice
[14:34] <Moat> it just
[14:34] <Moat> doesn't
[14:34] <Moat> register
[14:34] <littlegreen> solid999 you are right. It doesn't... give me a sec
[14:34] <rfgergrthnre> once was when i deleted a ton of files
[14:34] <solid999> littlegreen: okay thanks
[14:34] <rfgergrthnre> the other was towards the end of its life
[14:34] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: Linux file systems are done much better than Window's ones
[14:34] <wook> Moat, did you contacted wlan provider???
[14:34] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: as a result people tend to have no proper reason to try and defrag Linux file systems
[14:34] <Moat> uhh what wook?
[14:34] <solid999> sebsebseb: only ZFS is so much better :)
[14:34] <kadir> Selam arkadaslar
[14:34] <theadmin> Not only filesystems :D Linux itself is done a lot better
[14:35] <wook> i do not have any, but any kind of probs with wlan
[14:35] <nastas> Moat: have you ever use pastebin before?
[14:35] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, it seems pointless to me
[14:35] <kadir> Hello Chanell*
[14:35] <PingFloyd> Moat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[14:35] <Moat> uhh
[14:35] <wook> wslm kadir
[14:35] <magnetron> QUESTION: how do i change the value for up_treshold for CPU frequency scaling in an Ubuntu-native *persistant* way?
[14:35] <kadir> Selam wook merhaba
[14:35] <nastas> \pastebin | Moat
[14:35] <rfgergrthnre> thats like saying bikes crash less than cars so i must ride a bike lol
[14:35] <wook> merhaba :)
[14:35] <kadir> Linux üzerinden konuştugum ilk arkadaşsın
[14:35] <Moat> ?
[14:35] <littlegreen> solid999 try sudo apt-get remove ubofox && sudo apt-get install ubofox
[14:35] <nastas> !pastebin | Moat
[14:35] <wook> moat, is wlan enabled?
[14:35] <nmvictor> I did a sshfs nmvictor@nmvictors-linuxbox: /path/to/mountpoint, and i got an error - read:Connection reset by peer, what does that mean?
[14:35] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: well if you want to waste time defragging or trying to defrag a Linux file system, that's up to you
[14:35] <genii> uffox not ubofox
[14:36] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: however your comparision there etc
[14:36] <genii> ubufox rather
[14:36] <Moat> how do i check wook?
[14:36] <ichat> rfgergrthnre:  -  expept the fact that its probably untrue
[14:36] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, no
[14:36] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: is similar to one that's used in that  Linux is not Windows article
[14:36] <kadir> Wook ubuntu hakkında birşey sorabilirmiyim.
[14:36] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: which is linked to here
[14:36] <Myrtti> !tr | kadir
[14:36] <sebsebseb> !windows | rfgergrthnre
[14:36] <wook> kadir, i dont speak turkish
[14:36] <littlegreen> solid999 also try sudo apt-get remove firefox-gnome-support && sudo apt-get install firefox-gnome-support
[14:36] <joe75> rfgergrthnre: any file system will fragment, especially if you handle larger files
[14:36] <nmvictor> !sshfs | nmvictor
[14:36] <wook> moat, add new applet to panel, and find wlan
[14:37] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, i just dont buy what your saying about fragmentation being a huge problem
[14:37] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: uh
[14:37] <ichat> !sanetwain
[14:37] <Moat> wook explain in detail, step by step what i need 2 do
[14:37] <nastas> Moat: use pastebin and post the output of the command iwconfig
[14:37] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: when did I say it's a huge problem?  I been telling you that don't need to defrag the file system
[14:37] <ichat> hrrr nasty bot :P
[14:37] <hakaishi> once more, would anyone be interested in https://launchpad.net/~hakaishi/+archive/qt-program-starter ? - qt-program-starter is a program to start any command or program. It is able to save any output or error output each into a text file and to start at a certain time, to shutdown or just quit, after the process is finished.
[14:37] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, in doze, i mean
[14:37] <Moat> nastas the stuff you get when you put in lspci | grep Marvell
[14:38] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: Windows installs should be defragged  at least once a month really
[14:38] <the_real_dave> rfgergrthnre: AFAIK ext2 was the last ext that fragmented. Both NTFS and FAT fragment
[14:38] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, sorry if i misunderstood but it seemed like u were saying doze users need to defrag daily or sumthing
[14:38] <PingFloyd> there's e2defrag but there's some precautions you need to follow with that, another alternative is to copy all files over to another FS and then back
[14:38] <debra> Moat, did you go to the link that PingFloyd posted? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[14:38] <wook> moat, nastas will be more helpfull
[14:38] <Moat> i saw the link debra
[14:38] <Moat> now what?
[14:38] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, no, ur wrong there... defrags on ntfs should be done with tons of files are removed
[14:38] <Moat> now i gotta do the second step
[14:38] <nastas> Moat: can you post the output i asked you?
[14:38] <Moat> k
[14:39] <sebsebseb> rfgergrthnre: well  the month thing depends on how often the install is used,  also if your installing loads of program, or putting loads of data on there and taking off and so on,  then Windows should be defragged a bit more really
[14:39] <Moat> here or in ubuntupastebin?
[14:39] <nastas> Moat: iwconfig is the command
[14:39] <gordonjcp> PingFloyd: copy all the files to another disk and back, jeez that's so oldschool ;-)
[14:39] <nastas> Moat: pastebin
[14:39] <wook> brb
[14:39] <littlegreen> solid999 I hope I am being of help somehow. Otherwise you can always try in #firefox channel..
[14:39] <phoenix91290> I agree with sebsebseb
[14:39] <gordonjcp> PingFloyd: reminds me of RT-11
[14:39] <rfgergrthnre> sebsebseb, yeah but that isnt a typical usage scenario, and remember fragmentation will occur more from removing rather than adding files
[14:39] <Moat> the output said it had no wireless extensions
[14:39] <Moat> on lo and eth0
[14:39] <rfgergrthnre> if ur doing a clean install, data will be added logically
[14:40] <rfgergrthnre> once data starts getting deleted, fragmentation occurs
[14:40] <guest_007> How to save the private key into keyring in koala? in Heron i did it easily, while here it always asks for password! :(
[14:40] <magnetron> QUESTION: how do i change the value for up_treshold for CPU frequency scaling in an Ubuntu-native *persistant* way?
[14:40] <PingFloyd> gordonjcp: well, personally, I don't even worry about fragmentation since it is rarely an issue
[14:40] <nastas> Moat: in pastebin post the output of lspci -vv command
[14:40] <erUSUL> magnetron: put the command you use in /etc/rc.local
[14:41] <Moat> "lspci | grep Marvell" that command nastas?
[14:41] <gordonjcp> PingFloyd: I've seen it once, after filling - literally filling - a disk with lots of very very small files
[14:41] <magnetron> erUSUL: the default is 95%, where is this currently set?
[14:41] <nastas> Moat: the command i asked is lspci -vv
[14:41] <ouyes>  what music player are you using?
[14:41] <Moat> kk
[14:41] <PingFloyd> gordonjcp: yeah, it can definitely happen under the right circumstances
[14:41] <chris__> why is linux so good
[14:41] <chris__> :S
[14:42] <phoenix91290> because its open source!
[14:42] <Maariih> oolaa
[14:42] <DasEi> ouyes: vlc mainly
[14:42] <chris__> :S
[14:42] <chris__> lol
[14:42] <ouyes> music player?
[14:42] <DasEi> !mp3 | ouyes
[14:42] <nathan7> cookies.
[14:42] <nathan7> phoenix91290: *Free Software
[14:43] <nathan7> phoenix91290: Open source is a marketing term invented by m$ and the likes.
[14:43] <DasEi> ouyes: yes, vlc is musicplayer (amonst other)
[14:43] <solid999> littlegreen: sorry i'm back now, i'll try your suggestions now
[14:43] <erUSUL> magnetron: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ ??
[14:43] <phoenix91290> Well I guess that's what I was aiming for nathan7
[14:43] <erUSUL> magnetron: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
[14:43] <rfgergrthnre> nathan7, incorrect.
[14:43] <rfgergrthnre> nathan7, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source#History
[14:44] <rfgergrthnre> The decision by some people in the free software movement to use the label “open source” came out of a strategy session[8] held at Palo Alto, California, in reaction to Netscape's January 1998 announcement of a source code release for Navigator.
[14:44] <nastas> Moat: did you post it?
[14:44] <Moat> almost
[14:44] <magnetron> erUSUL: that's a sysfs, it's created by the kernel on boot-time. it's reset everytime the computer is rebooted. my question is what is writing to that file after reboot
[14:44] <Moat> i'm using 2 computers
[14:45] <erUSUL> magnetron: the default value is in the kernel. just overwritte it in /etc/rc.local like i said
[14:45] <erUSUL> i've
[14:46] <solid999> littlegreen: thanks for your help so far. The commands you given didn't change anything for me. I think i tried reinstalling the firefox-named packages already. But other dependencies may not have "firefox" in their name that's why i searched for somethign that recursively rebuilds all dependencies.
[14:46] <littlegreen> solid999 try #firefox - I think the guys there will know better
[14:46] <solid999> solid999: i can try the firefox channel, but i already googled on the exact error and the bug report says its due to corruption and not a specific firefox issue. that could be right as i got a crash just after installing updates, which included firefox
[14:46] <simond> Where do i find ubuntu-alternate for 9.10? I'd like to do a console-only install on a 32 bit system
[14:47] <jtgsi> Hi all and top of the morning/day/evening to you. I am hoping someone can guide me in the right direction. I am looking to build a server. I have ample hardware; 2.83ghz, 4gb corsair, (2) 500gb hdd (raid 1). I need help choosing the right solution. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu Server and was greeted by a friendly black screen waiting patiently for my prompts. : ) Well, I know absolutely nothing about CLI, but also willing to learn. But for
[14:47] <jtgsi>  now I will need to start with some sort of gui. So here my questions begin, which gui? Anything I need to know before proceeding? General help? Anyone?
[14:47] <root51> any available update kernel for ubuntu karmic
[14:47] <jac0> i need help..where can i get SAMR codec.....i cant get to play my 3gp files..
[14:47] <wgZ> olá a todos
[14:47] <arundracula> Ubuntu 9.10 restart problem when starting mozilla firefox
[14:48] <arundracula> not restart problem, freezing problem
[14:48] <DasEi> simond: ubuntu.com
[14:48] <wgZ> voip free? onde???
[14:48] <PingFloyd> simond: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[14:48] <simond> DasEi: I'm going in circles there, I can't seem to find the lalternates
[14:48] <simond> thanks PingFloyd
[14:49] <PingFloyd> simond: you're welcome
[14:49] <solid999> littlegreen: thanks, i'm over there now
[14:49] <wgZ> voip free??????
[14:49] <mnemonikk> jtgsi: I think you should learn how to use a CLI. It's not _that_ hard.
[14:49] <PingFloyd> simond: another nice bonus about the text installer is you can also set up full disk encryption during install
[14:50] <wgZ> thc hydra???
[14:50] <Myrtti> jtgsi: it's really your own preference, you can run pretty much whatever you want on that. CLI does have it's benefits though
[14:50] <jac0> my 3gp video files are playing without sound...requesting for "samr codec"
[14:50] <Myrtti> wgZ: you're not making sense
[14:50] <PingFloyd> simond: if you're using a laptop, you may want to give that some consideration
[14:50] <wgZ> hahahahaha
[14:50] <jtgsi> Where is a good place to start learning? Baby steps?
[14:50] <mnemonikk> jtgsi: this also makes it quite natural to administer the machine remotely via ssh.
[14:50] <Lauty> hello
[14:50] <jac0> my 3gp video files are playing without sound...requesting for "samr codec" help me get started
[14:50] <root51> busy bee
[14:50] <root51> in new karmic
[14:50] <Lauty> alguno habla español?¿
[14:50] <Myrtti> !es | Lauty
[14:50] <wgZ> airmon-ng start eth0
[14:51] <elysian> Hey, so, I have this problem. I'm trying to install a pretty easy to use distro in under 2gbs, for some old PCs in my school, and I figured Ubuntu would be perfect, except that it's too big size wise, is tehre any way to do a custom install that would fit in under 2gbs?
[14:51] <mattcodes> is there any locking issues on the git filesystem, I want to stick my git repository in my dropbox directory, when I previously did this with SVN there would be issues with SVN writing a dropbox would grab a lock at some point in the process
[14:51] <jac0> my 3gp video files are playing without sound...requesting for "samr codec" help me get started
[14:51] <elysian> there*
[14:51] <sanderj_> Is it possible to get X up and running on ubuntu server edition?
[14:51] <Myrtti> sanderj_: yes
[14:51] <wgZ> airodump-ng -w arquivo.cab -c 11 -abg eth0
[14:52] <root51> alt f7
[14:52] <sanderj_> ok.. thanks.
[14:52] <mnemonikk> jtgsi: it's been a long time since I did my first baby steps with *NIX, the stuff I used to read is out of date now.
[14:52] <Lauty> hola
[14:52] <adminek> hola
[14:53] <adminek> how can I install OPERA in ubuntu?
[14:53] <elysian> Can anyone help me out here, if I get it working it'd be the first introduction of open source to the school.
[14:53] <pranav> sudo apt-get install opera
[14:53] <wgZ> hahahhahaha
[14:53] <wgZ> pqp
[14:53] <jtgsi> I am quite will to learn CLI, but I have yet to discover a place to learn. Beside a school, which is out of the question.
[14:53] <daeron> hi everyone
[14:53] <gordonjcp> elysian: it should just about fit in 2G
[14:53] <mnemonikk> jtgsi: I remember that I read o'reilly's unix power tools.
[14:53] <gordonjcp> elysian: maybe you could try Xubuntu
[14:53] <daeron> i got a problemm
[14:53] <jve> How do i start pulseaudio without logging in to gnome?
[14:53] <elysian> Doesn't, sadly, tried it.
[14:53] <obscurant1st> i messed up my ubuntu 9.10 grub, its not booting anymore,
[14:53] <daeron> with  my notebook
[14:54] <jac0> requesting assisstance, is there an application which has 'samr codec'??
[14:54] <obscurant1st> can soembdy help me to restore it
[14:54] <chris__> ubuntu is as good as macOS
[14:54] <mnemonikk> adminek: they offer deb-packages for ubuntu on opera.com.
[14:54] <magnetron> !grub | obscurant1st
[14:54] <obscurant1st> i dont have the ubuntu cd, but i hv backtrack live cd
[14:54] <chris__> backtrack ?
[14:54] <chris__> what's that like
[14:54] <psycho_oreos> forensic/pentesting distro
[14:54] <jtgsi> I will look into that thanks
[14:54] <nathan7> Pentesting
[14:55] <obscurant1st> ^^ yep
[14:55] <jac0> requesting assisstance, is there an application which has 'samr codec'??
[14:55] <pranav> please I want to learn how to login account using cookies, do someone have some resources to show like guide links, firefox extensions
[14:55] <chiiiiiz_88> hi
[14:55] <adminek> thanks
[14:55] <elysian> Also, jtgsi, http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php, best place to learn the basics, really.
[14:55] <magnetron> chris__: it's a linux distro
[14:55] <DasEi> chris__:based on ibex
[14:55] <chiiiiiz_88> anyone familiar with ubuntustudio?
[14:55] <adminek> sudo apt-get install opera - it doesn't work
[14:55] <mnemonikk> jtgsi: and there's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:55] <DasEi> adminek : got to add the repo first
[14:55] <guest_007> How to save the private key into keyring in koala? ?? ?? ?
[14:56] <magnetron> jac0: you are probably thinking of the AMR codec
[14:56] <lorenita> hay alguno de sexto a del colegio antonio machado estepona?
[14:56] <elysian> And yeah, is there anyway to control which packages get installed, during the Xubuntu install.
[14:56] <root51> what is private ring
[14:56] <DJones> !studio | chiiiiiz_88
[14:56] <DasEi> !es | lorenita
[14:56] <chiiiiiz_88> I am a newbie with music recording... I have installed the linux-rt, I ahve a M-audio 1010LT soundcard... configured Qjackctl for real-time... but the latency is still higher than 30 ms...
[14:56] <adminek> ok thanks I 'll try
[14:56] <jackbrown> hey after sudo get-apps update i   got this  http://pastebin.com/d22d553d9
[14:57] <jackbrown> what's means
[14:57] <jackbrown> ?
[14:57] <DasEi> adminek: which distro /32 or 64 ?
[14:57] <jackbrown> please help me
[14:57] <FloodBot1> jackbrown: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <jtgsi> Thank you guys fo the suggestions. Hopefully I can learn this stuff, it's about time that I do
[14:57] <chiiiiiz_88> I want to record my guitar with software effects, and I have read than it needs max 10 ms... How to reduce the latency?
[14:57] <adminek> DasEi 32
[14:57] <baalsgate> anyone know where to get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.31-19-generic ?
[14:57] <DasEi> adminek: karmic ?
[14:57] <chiiiiiz_88> !studio
[14:58] <adminek> 9.10 yes
[14:58] <chiiiiiz_88> join #ubuntustudio
[14:58] <jac0> magnetron: not realy..everytime i play a 3gp video file it plays without sound...am using vlc player and it kinda request 'samr codec'.
[14:58] <chiiiiiz_88> :join #ubuntustudio
[14:58] <daeron> when i put on my earphones i can ear sound from the cases too but  i don't want . someone can help me?
[14:58] <solid999> littlegreen: hey, just wanted you to know i fixed my issue. there were some other dependencies, i used synaptic to COMPLETELY remove them (not normal remove) all, and then re-installed again. that worked. :)
[14:58] <chiiiiiz_88> thanks
[14:58] <chiiiiiz_88> bye
[14:58] <magnetron> jac0: that's the AMR codec, they are used in 3GPP files
[14:58] <arundracula> anyone know how to save Xorg.conf from nvidia control panel?
[14:58] <adminek> DasEi 9.10
[14:59] <immortal> hi
[14:59] <littlegreen> solid999 glad to hear that
[14:59] <daeron> when i put on my earphones i can ear sound from the cases too but  i don't want . someone can help me?
[14:59] <jac0> magnetron: so you mean AMR codecs actually works?
[14:59] <Romi> alguien habla español??
[14:59] <Guest64181> hi
[14:59] <jackbrown> http://pastebin.com/d22d553d9  help please
[14:59] <kwtm> Anyone know how to use VimOutliner?
[14:59] <DJones> !es | Guest64181
[14:59] <daeron> yo hablo espanol
[14:59] <Guest64181> what is this program
[14:59] <Guest64181> !!
[15:00] <DJones> !es | Romi
[15:00] <obscurant1st> how to check the boot partition number for ubuntu?
[15:00] <DJones> Guest64181: Sorry, that !es wasn't meant for you
[15:00] <Romi> gracias
[15:00] <obscurant1st> like (hd1,7)
[15:01] <daeron> when i put on my earphones i can ear sound from the cases too but  i don't want . someone can help me?
[15:01] <jac0> magnetron: can you guide me installing the AMR codecs, if you don mind..
[15:02] <DasEi> adminek: open trml
[15:02] <adminek> DasEi OK
[15:02] <magnetron> jac0: add the Medibuntu repository. then install the package named non-free-codecs
[15:03] <Guest77357> hi
[15:03] <patsbin> erUSUL: Think I found the problem. Purging dmraid helped.
[15:03] <magnetron> !medibuntu | jac0
[15:03] <DasEi> adminek: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:03] <DasEi> adminek: scroll down, add the line :
[15:03] <DasEi> adminek: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[15:03] <erUSUL> patsbin: so the disk was part of a raid before being reformated to ntfs ?
[15:03] <DasEi> adminek: save the file, close gedit
[15:04] <DasEi> adminek: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[15:04] <DasEi> (command, not a link)
[15:04] <DasEi> adminek: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera
[15:05] <adminek> DasEi OK
[15:05] <DasEi> adminek: browse on
[15:06] <tulu> Hi all, can I ask 4 my trouble
[15:06] <adminek> DasEi THANKS it's working
[15:07] <DJones> tulu: No need to ask about asking a question, just ask your question in the channel and as long as somebody is able to help they'll get back to you
[15:07] <magnetron> tulu: there are hundreds of people here ready to help you, just ask
[15:07] <tulu> how could i remove ttf-dejavu-extra
[15:07] <mots> hey
[15:07] <tulu> thx magnetron
[15:08] <mots> could anyone export their /apps/gwd for me (gconf)
[15:08] <DasEi> adminek: np
[15:08] <mots> I suffered data losses after a forced reboot
[15:08] <tulu> I'm newbie in Ubuntu n English
[15:08] <magnetron> tulu: use synaptic to remove that package
[15:08] <tulu> magnetron: thx, I'll try
[15:09] <DJones> tulu: What is your native language, there may be a local channel for you that uses your own labguage
[15:09] <DasEi> mots: no such file on my sys
[15:09] <Guest77357> how to install usb wireless in backtrack4 (d-link dwa-120)
[15:09] <win7hascompiz> I want to completely remove windows7 from my computer but completely back it up so that I can restore it to the state it was before I removed it. What program should I use? I usually use dd however this pc has a 250gb empty partition and that would be pointless.
[15:09] <tulu> DJones: I'm Vietnamese. thx u
[15:09] <Myrtti> !vn | tulu
[15:09] <DasEi> !wireless | Guest77357
[15:09] <magnetron> Guest77357: we cannot help you with backtrack, we only provide support for ubuntu
[15:10] <martian> If I add something to my /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ how can I get it to... 'run'?
[15:11] <Guest77357> how do  you work fast-track in backtrack4?
[15:11] <DJones> !vn | tulu
[15:11] <magnetron> Guest77357: please stop asking backtrack questions here
[15:12] <tulu> DJones: hmmm. thx
[15:12] <tulu> there's few men
[15:12] <Guest77357> ok
[15:12] <z0mbie> is there any possibilty to remove the middle place in amarok?
[15:13] <z0mbie> you know, that with the covers and wiki
[15:13] <magnetron> Guest77357: go to the channel #backtrack-linux on this server, they can help you
[15:14] <win7hascompiz> I want to completely remove windows7 from my computer but completely back it up so that I can restore it to the state it was before I removed it. What program should I use? I usually use dd however this pc has a 250gb largely empty partition and that would be pointless.
[15:14] <tulu> "error processing ttf-dejavu-extra" pls smb help me
[15:14] <DasEi> win7hascompiz: so shrink the size before dding it
[15:14] <Gangrel> anyone knows how to fix utf-8 on media players? cause my music is on an external hdd and some mp3s are entitled in greek
[15:14] <magnetron> win7hascompiz: maybe use ddrescue, it supports gzip. this will compress the large unused disk space.
[15:14] <Gangrel> so when i wanna listen to them i get ????????????? for title
[15:15] <Gangrel> !utf
[15:15] <magnetron> Gangrel: which media player is doing this?
[15:15] <Gangrel> ermm all
[15:15] <win7hascompiz> magnetron: oh yes I forgot about that, thanks
[15:15] <iceroot> Gangrel: one example
[15:15] <martian> tulu: perhaps this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7262846
[15:15] <magnetron> Gangrel: which did you test?
[15:15] <Gaudi> hey guys can anybody help me  to repair my ubuntu using the livecd
[15:16] <Gangrel> audicious 2, movie player
[15:16] <iceroot> Gaudi: what is broken?
[15:16] <Gaudi> everything lol
[15:16] <macman_> 2 laptops with ubuntu i want to share them .. what is the fastest easiest way ?
[15:16] <Gaudi> I can't start ubuntu
[15:16] <newbie> hello
[15:16] <newbie> any one to help me
[15:16] <Gaudi> so I got someone telling me to use the livecd to unbreak it
[15:16] <obscurant1st> when i run cfdisk this error http://pastie.org/832809 comes, can somebody tell me how to fix it?
[15:16] <iceroot> Gaudi: please post usefull details like error-messages to all
[15:16] <BluesKaj> macman_, ssh
[15:16] <macman_> !ask newbie
[15:16] <Gaudi> well
[15:16] <newbie> i want to install my webcam
[15:16] <macman_> BluesKaj: i want to transfer files .. i don't think ssh transfers right ?
[15:17] <Gaudi> I am ussing this link
[15:17] <Gaudi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2530884&postcount=1
[15:17] <mejor> olaooooo
[15:17] <llutz> macman_: scp/sftp does
[15:17] <BluesKaj> yes it does transfer , macman_
[15:17] <Gangrel> audicious2 says invalid utf-8 and movie player gets me ???!??!?!?!?!?
[15:17] <mejor> ola
[15:17] <iceroot> Gaudi: again, post error-messages to the channe
[15:17] <rascal999>  using pxe is there a way to make a computer treat an nfs share as a local hard drive?
[15:17] <mejor> olaaaa
[15:17] <Gaudi> and I get an error like this "mount: can't find /mnt/repair/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[15:17] <biDouilleMan_> i agree
[15:17] <mejor> lokos
[15:17] <martian> Gangrel: Is it only a few select tracks that do this?
[15:17] <Myrtti> !es | mejor
[15:17] <Gangrel> martian, yes only the greek entitled tracks
[15:18] <mejor> olaaaa
[15:18] <mejor> olaaa
[15:18] <mejor> olaaa
[15:18] <FloodBot1> mejor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <newbie> I have a usb webcam and want to install it
[15:18] <Gaudi> mejor
[15:18] <Gaudi> aqui no es la auyda en español
[15:18] <BluesKaj> using the scp command, macman_ ..check out the ssh tutorials in google-linux
[15:18] <root51> any available graphical grub loader
[15:18] <martian> Gangrel: Do the track titles appear correctly in other media players?
[15:18] <umang> sayanriju, I'm sorry. Internet connection just decided to go for a stroll. Hope apt-zip worked.
[15:18] <Gangrel> martian nope
[15:18] <Gaudi> any ideas icerot?
[15:19] <martian> Gangrel: Is it possible that the track titles are simply garbled then?
[15:19] <newbie> I have a usb webcam and want to install it, anyone to help?
[15:19] <martian> newbie: specific questions a better suited for IRC
[15:19] <sayanriju> umang, np, actually delving into the source of apt-zip gave /me the answer : apt-get's --print-uris option!
[15:19] <Gaudi> the thing is that I do not know the error nor what I am doing
[15:19] <iceroot> Gaudi: you get the message if you start the installed ubuntu?
[15:19] <Gaudi> no
[15:19] <Gaudi> I cant start the installed ubuntu
[15:20] <iceroot> Gaudi: post the error you get when you start ubuntu
[15:20] <Gangrel> martian, but in the hdd they appear correct
[15:20] <newbie> how can i install multithreaded QT lib.?
[15:20] <Gaudi> and I am trying to repair it with the live cd
[15:20] <Gaudi> no error
[15:20] <obscurant1st> when i run cfdisk this error http://pastie.org/832809 comes, can somebody tell me how to fix it?
[15:20] <Gaudi> I had something about broken library then reboot
[15:20] <umang> sayanriju, :)
[15:20] <martian> Gangrel: the FILE names appear correct, but media players get the titles from the ID3 tags in the mp3, not from the file names
[15:20] <AndrewAnderson> model of webcam ?
[15:20] <Gaudi> iceroot: then after rebooting I got something about an contacting my admin and then it frooze for like30 minutes
[15:20] <iceroot> Gaudi: its not very easy to help without usefull infos
[15:21] <Gangrel> martian, ahhhh i see anything to suggest on fixing that?
[15:21] <Gaudi> iceroot: restarted it again then it just won't run
[15:21] <iceroot> Gaudi: ubuntu is restarting automaticly?
[15:21] <Gaudi> iceroot: then I got someone telling me to repair it with the livecd and gave me a tutorial page but I can't seem to use it
[15:21] <sayanriju> umang, Must RTFM more sincerely next time! :P
[15:21] <Gaudi> iceroot: no, it just won't start it gets stuck on the little circle
[15:22] <umang> sayanriju, yeah. :P
[15:22] <martian> Gangrel: look in the add/remove software tool or google for mp3 tag editors
[15:22] <newbie> AndrewAnderson, :  Device 003: ID 093a:2700 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[15:22] <gordonjcp> what can I use to convert a .iso to an image file suitable for writing to a USB stick?
[15:23] <Gaudi> martian: it has nothing to do with mp3 also I can't enter my installed ubuntu
[15:23] <gordonjcp> usb-creator isn't a possibility, because I'm not currently near a machine running Ubuntu
[15:23] <iceroot> Gaudi: press esc or ctrl + alt + f1
[15:23] <DasEi> gordonjcp: few tools, unetbootin, which purpose ?
[15:23] <iceroot> Gaudi: to see the error
[15:23] <martian> Gaudi: I was responding to Gangrel
[15:23] <DasEi> gordonjcp: which os
[15:23] <gordonjcp> DasEi: unetbootin doesn't seem to create a file, just write to a device
[15:23] <gordonjcp> DasEi: Linux
[15:23] <Gaudi> iceroot: I can't it simply wont let me do anything
[15:23] <gordonjcp> DasEi: there's a Windows machine here but I have no idea how to use it
, what software you using to test webcam ?
[15:24] <DasEi> gordonjcp: do you want to copy the iso or want a bootable usb ?
[15:24] <iceroot> Gaudi: is the gui running for some seconds before crashing?
[15:24] <obscurant1st> when i run cfdisk this error http://pastie.org/832809 comes, can somebody tell me how to fix it?
[15:24] <newbie> AndrewAnderson, : i got this information through lsusb command
[15:25] <Gaudi> iceroot: perhaps a second just like it was loading but then nothing also my caps lock and bloq num flashy thingys keep flashing
[15:25] <gordonjcp> DasEi: I want a bootable USB stick, ideally
[15:26] <iceroot> Gaudi: in that secons, press esc
[15:26] <iceroot> Gaudi: second
[15:26] <newbie> AndrewAnderson, : i installed camorama but when i run it it says : couldnot connect the camera /dev/video0
[15:26] <DasEi> gordonjcp: unetbootin then, either linux or win
[15:27] <DasEi> gordonjcp: if you need write-space, too, check pendrivelinux.com
[15:27] <DasEi> gordonjcp: unetb. is like a live from usb
[15:28] <Gaudi> iceroot: what then?
[15:29] <ojii> hi everyone, whenever a 'help' thingy loads in ubuntu (eg if i accidentally press F1 in the shell instead of ESC) my system freezes... how can I disable that stupid help all for once?
[15:29] <candyban> Where can I find an ubuntu server net-install ?
[15:29] <candyban> LTS
[15:29] <Gaudi> iceroot: I also tried the recovery thingy when I pressed escape
[15:29] <Gaudi> iceroot: all the same
[15:32] <DasEi> candyban: wait for LTS for lucid, the current one is hardy (8.04), support will run out soon,
[15:32] <DasEi> !lts
[15:32] <candyban> DasEi, I can't wait 2 more months
[15:33] <candyban> DasEi, I'm willing to install a pre-release though
[15:33] <DasEi> candyban: I suggest you use karmic now, then either re-instaall or upgrade
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> candyban:  you dont want to insgtall Lucid at this time
[15:33] <DasEi> candyban: don't do that until you are geeky
 seems its use YUV
[15:33] <candyban> DasEi, I think I'm geeky enough for that ;)
[15:33] <VCoolio> candyban: you could install hardy and upgrade directly to lucid once it's there, you can update directly between lts releases
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> If you can install prelerease at this time.. i have to wonder why you are worried about LTS then
[15:34] <daeron> when i put on my earphones i can ear sound from the cases too but  i don't want . someone can help me?
[15:34] <DasEi> !lucid | candyban, hmm, but can't find the link ?! heh
[15:34] <iceroot> Gaudi: boot it from a live-cd and paste the output of /var/log/syslog /var/log/boot and so on here. i am off now but others may help you with usefull infos like log files
 install guvcview from repo
[15:34] <candyban> DasEi, I'm used to debian installs
[15:35] <Gaudi> iceroot: I get /var/log/syslog: Permission denied
[15:35] <DasEi> candyban: alright, I suggest use karmic, maybe seperate home, do a dist upgrade in late april/may
[15:35] <candyban> ps. It's for a firewall ... which typically is quite stable
[15:36] <candyban> DasEi, and I want LTS because my firewall typically have several years ahead of them
[15:36] <itai> hi, can anyone help me install a windows codec 'vorbis.acm' on linux ?
[15:36] <Gaudi> Can anyone help me with the problem iceroot was helping me?
[15:36] <sebsebseb> is back
[15:36] <obscurant1st> when i run cfdisk this error http://pastie.org/832809 comes, can somebody tell me how to fix it?
[15:36] <obscurant1st> somebody pls.. :(
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> itai:  normally theres the w32codec package you install and thats about it. Or use vlc.
[15:37] <meero> how to delete file starting with space (in terminal)
[15:37] <NewUser_> Can anyone direct any thread to do ISA proxy setting in ubuntu?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> meero:  rm ' file'
[15:37] <llutz> obscurant1st: sudo cfdisk -z
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> meero:  or use 'mc' :)
[15:37] <alankila> itai: vorbis.acm? Isn't vorbis support for Linux perfectly ordinary stuff already installed on virtually every linux system on earth?
[15:38] <meero> Dr_Willis: i cant use mc, because my putty is not suporting funcion keys at the moment
[15:38] <meero> Dr_Willis: i tried with " or with ' ... nothing worked
[15:38] <Gaudi> DasEi: can you help me out?
[15:38] <itai> alankila, Dr_Willis i encountered a strange AVi and i try to follow this advice : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388997  (third post)
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> meero:  try mc.  single quotes should work.
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> meero:  you can set putty to uise xterm keyboard or whatever
[15:39] <obscurant1st> llutz, wht it will do,
[15:39] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: can you help me out?
[15:39] <obscurant1st> i just executed it
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> meero:  or export TERM=xterm
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  depends on the issue
[15:39] <Spoom> hi folks, i'm in a livecd session because X won't show anything except a black screen upon getting past the usplash logo; i took a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen but its tips largely only apply for previous versions of ubuntu with an xorg.conf; this happened on an intel graphics based system and after it froze once; any ideas?
[15:39] <llutz> obscurant1st: read "man cfdisk", will start without reading partition-table
[15:40] <meero> Dr_Willis: single ' is not working, im lost....
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> meero:  or excape the space with a \ or was it a / - what if its actually 2 spaces.. :)
[15:40] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: My ubuntu broke and I can't install it and I am on the livecd to repair it. I am using this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523 tutorial. But I can't make it work
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> meero:  or use a very concise wildcard
[15:40] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: not install it, start it*
[15:41] <airtonix> Spoom, one thought : have you tried modifying the boot parameters ?
[15:41] <docmax> i connected a 2nd display to my laptop... how can i run a 2nd (not extended) x-session? i have a nvidia graphics adapter. i dont want this permanently. just on time
[15:41] <meero> Dr_Willis: it worked like this rm '  '*
[15:41] <airtonix> Spoom, also : i assume your livecd doesn't have the same problems with X ?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> meero:  how many spaces was that? :)
[15:42] <meero> Dr_Willis: just 2
[15:42] <obscurant1st> llutz, you know any command for fixing the geomtry of the disk?
[15:42] <ojii> how can I globally disable the F1->Help keyboard shortcut? The F1 help freezes my system...
[15:42] <Spoom> airtonix: nope, livecd works, and the install worked as well initially, for about a day or two
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  that guide is almost 2 years old.. what exact part are you having issue with?
[15:42] <itai> Dr_Willis, alankila the vorbis.acm codec contains an acm file which i guess i should put somewhere in mplayer's directory , except i don't know why one
[15:42] <Spoom> airtonix: and nope, i haven't tried editing the boot parameters
[15:42] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it
[15:42] <llutz> obscurant1st: (c)fdisk
[15:42] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: I can't do the mount command
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> itai:  or you just need to install the w32codecs pack and let it do it. or try to platy it in vlc
[15:43] <airtonix> Spoom, its something i had to do to get my netbook loading past the splash screen into the login screen.
[15:43] <obscurant1st> ok, llutz
[15:43] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: this one "sudo mount /dev/?d?? /mnt/repair "
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  so you mean to say you dont know enough linix to know what to use for /dev/XXXXX
[15:43] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis I know my partition but I keep getting an error
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  and wats the error?
[15:43] <Spoom> airtonix: which boot parameters are you talking about?  kernel parameters?
[15:44] <itai> Dr_Willis, in vlc i get "No suitable decoder module:
[15:44] <itai> VLC does not support the audio or video format "vo3+". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this" ! i will try the w32 though i belive i should have it installed already
[15:44] <airtonix> Spoom, yeah i think so, i had to replace some with nolapci and nosplash or something.
[15:44] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: mount: can't find /dev/sda5/mtn/repair in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:44] <airtonix> Spoom, but just a caveat, i dont have a intel graphics card.
[15:44] <DasEi> candyban: ?
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  you need a space in there.
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> mount /dev/devicename  /mnt/whgatever
[15:44] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: but I know that I sda5 is the right partition cuz I ran the cat /etc/fstab  command
[15:45] <Gaudi> :o
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> proper spaceing of commands is imporntant :)
[15:45] <DasEi> candyban: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> expecially when its between 2 arguments for the command
[15:45] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: I got /dev/sda5 looks like a swapspace - not mounted
[15:45] <Gaudi> mount: you must specify the filestytem type
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  then you either got the wrong sd##  or its very badly currupted
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  what does sudo fdisk -l show?
[15:47] <valari> hey guys iam back after 3 years
[15:47] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: it shows 3 devices sda1 sda2 and sda5
[15:47] <itai> valari, welcome back...
[15:47] <valari> gaudi, pm me the prblm
[15:47] <valari> itai hey
[15:48] <Gaudi> Thanks valari but Dr_Willis is helping me out I think it would be rude just to abandon him
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  look at the filesystem shown for each device.
[15:48] <valari> gaudi: nah jst though he was afk
[15:48] <valari> gaudi: :) dun worry
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi: its my bedtime so i may have to bail at any time. You should pastebin the fdisk -l output for others.
[15:48] <Gaudi> sda1 = linux, sda2 = Extended sda5 = Linux Swap /solaris
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> I work 3rd shift.. so it is gettin very close to my bed time
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  so its not lieing.. sda5 is swap :)
[15:49] <valari> gaudi: if only..... pm me the prblm maybe i can help :)
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> looks like you want sda1
[15:49] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: thanks for your time I will address to valari then
[15:49] <ubun00b> Hi. I accidently deleted my linux partition and now when I boot it takes me to the grub rescue> mode :( Not sure what to do
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> good idea. Im tired and dont want to make a mistake
[15:49] <valari> ubun00b hey very nice
[15:49] <Gaudi> valari: can you help me out?
[15:49] <ubun00b> ?
[15:50] <valari> gaudi yeah pm the prblm
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  you masically need to use mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whatver
[15:50] <Spoom> airtonix: where is the best place to add kernel parameters?  i want to try modeset=0
[15:50] <ubun00b> I'm on the liveCD now
[15:50] <erUSUL> ubun00b: either reinstall ubuntu and the grub booloader with it or restore the windows bootloader
[15:50] <NewUser_> Hello! ny info/thread to do setting ISA proxy? cause i'm in the co-op proxy network.
[15:50] <ubun00b> How do I restore the windows bootloader, erUSUL
[15:50] <valari> ubun00b re-install ubuntu and how did you dlete ur linux part??
[15:50] <NewUser_> Anyone ols?
[15:50] <ubun00b> valari: I was playing around with the partitions :(
[15:51] <ubun00b> accidently formatted the ubuntu partition :(
[15:51] <valari> ubun00b hm..... boot form xp goto repair and then use :fixmbr cmd"
[15:52] <airtonix> Spoom, i did it at the grub screen after pressing E
[15:52] <ubun00b> I dont have a windows recovery cd with me. On a linux liveCD now
[15:52] <valari> ubunn00b issus grub-install command
[15:52] <Spoom> ok, i'll try that, though if it works i need a way to make it permanent
[15:52] <NewUser_> ISA proxy setting, anyone pls?
[15:52] <airtonix> Spoom, im not saying this will work for you, just that its an avenue you should investigate before attempting it
[15:52] <ubun00b> valari: grub-install cmd?
[15:52] <itai> ubun00b,  you can do it from a linux cd, lifehacke has a HOWTo to fixmbr from a linux cd
[15:52] <listrophy> anyone have a good resource I can read that talks about detecting and preventing hack attempts? I mean, my server's locked down OK, but I'd like the server to proactively block dictionary attacks
[15:52] <Spoom> airtonix: absolutely
[15:53] <jgblanco> hi
[15:53] <ubun00b> ah, will look it up itai
[15:53] <Spoom> thanks, brb
[15:53] <valari> ubun00b yep
[15:54] <itai> ubun00b, i was wrong , it was arsgeek not lifehacker : http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[15:54] <NewUser_> ISA proxy setting,  pls?
[15:54] <^mNotIntelligent> hello everyone
[15:54] <valari> ubun00b : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> never heard of an ISA proxy or CO-Op proxy.. i imagine their homepage has some docs...
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> !proxy
[15:54] <DasEi> itai: what a clourfull names
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> listrophy:  i recall a few security focsed web sites. and some had online/free/pdf books.. but i forget the names
[15:55] <itai> DasEi, :-)
[15:55] <Spoom> huh.
[15:55] <Spoom> well that's odd, it just booted right up with no changes
[15:55] <Spoom> i suspect intermittent hardware failure
[15:55] <listrophy> Dr_Willis: like perhaps cert?
[15:56] <DasEi> Spoom: your issue ?
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> listrophy:  could check the delicious.com site and see what others have bookmarked under security tags
[15:56] <listrophy> Dr_Willis: good idea. thx
[15:56] <Spoom> DasEi, i was just in here, X was booting to a black screen
[15:56] <pranav> where does firefox stores cookies ?
[15:57] <obscurant1st> llutz, i am not getting a way to fix it?
[15:57] <DasEi> Spoom: can you boot rescue mode or get to a cmd-prompt ?
[15:57] <obscurant1st> can u help it
[15:57] <Spoom> DasEi, i don't think you understand, i was able to boot fully, it's working now
[15:57] <Spoom> lord knows for how long, but it is
[15:57] <obscurant1st> how to fix partition table, which was corrupted by gparted?
[15:57] <cheli> olaa
[15:57] <cheli> quienes sois
[15:57] <DasEi> Spoom: ic, check your syslog and Xorg.0.log
[15:58] <cheli> no os conozco!!
[15:58] <overmind> !es | cheli
[15:58] <cheli> hello
[15:58] <zmanning> hey anyone know how i can name my workspaces?
[15:58] <zmanning> its not working with desktop effects enabled
[15:58] <erUSUL> ubun00b: yu may ask in ##windows ; you need a windows install CD
[15:58] <cheli> speek spains?
[15:59] <DasEi> cheli: see above
[15:59] <cheli> speek spaihs
[15:59] <enrike> ola
[15:59] <cheli> olaa
[15:59] <cheli> quienes sois??
[15:59] <enrike> komo te llamas
[15:59] <cheli> un momentooq uien eres??
[15:59] <Spoom> !es | cheli
[16:00] <Spoom> yeesh
[16:00] <cheli> de donde sois??
[16:00] <enrike> de dos hermanas
[16:00] <xHACKx> ola a todos
[16:00] <cheli> ann cuantos años??
[16:00] <rww> !es | xHACKx, enrike, cheli
[16:01] <^mNotIntelligent> !es | cheli
[16:01] <xHACKx> olle este chat es  de los ordenadores de lla junta?
[16:01] <cheli> sii
[16:01] <overmind> cheli: Please, join in #ubuntu-es or talk english in here / Por favor, entra en #ubuntu-es o habla inglés aquí.
[16:01] <xHACKx> olle
[16:01] <enrike> bien toto
[16:01] <cheli> quee??
[16:01] <racerd> docmax: i set mine to twinview and then set the external to primary. then disabled the laptop monitor
[16:02] <xHACKx> este xat solo estan la gente de los ordenadores eso de guadalinex?
[16:02] <cheli> sii<11
[16:02] <xHACKx> aam ok
[16:02] <umang> !es | xHACKx, cheli
[16:02] <Spoom> damn
[16:02] <Spoom> lol
[16:02] <DasEi> Spoom: nah ?
[16:03] <xHACKx> los ke tengan 12 años ke digan 123
[16:03] <xHACKx> los ke tengan 12 años ke digan 123
[16:04] <Gaudi> hey, can anybody give me a hand? valari just left
[16:04] <Gaudi> without telling me nor helping me =(
[16:04] <cheli> speek spain??
[16:04] <glphvgacs> hi, what does character `:' represent in shell scripts?
[16:04] <Myrtti> cheli: no
[16:04] <umang> Gaudi, You'll have to repeat your question and tell everyone where you are.
[16:04] <rww> cheli: #ubuntu-es speak Spanish.
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  you were at the stage where you mount /dev/sda1 to /mnt/rescue or whatever....
[16:04] <DasEi> Gaudi: u asked before, but I haven't followed since doing stuff besides here, whole story again ?
[16:05] <Gaudi> I am trying to repair my Ubuntu via LiveCD
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> this is why pvt help sessions are bad.
[16:05] <Gaudi> I've been following this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422523
[16:05] <cheli> what your name??
[16:05] <Myrtti> !offtopic | cheli
[16:05] <Gaudi> I am stuck in this command sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mntohh
[16:05] <docmax> racerd, my laptopmonitor is disablet too
[16:05] <Gaudi> I think I found the problem
[16:05] <Gaudi> silly me
[16:05] <DasEi> Gaudi: what's wrong with the sys ?
[16:05] <cheli> bay
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  the mount point has to exist first./
[16:06] <Gaudi> I was typing mtn instead of mnt
[16:06] <cheli> america??
[16:06] <cheli> EE.UU
[16:06] <docmax> but i want to enable it with a shell console
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:   /mnt/whatver directory MUST exist befo you can mount to it
[16:06] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis and DasEi I was typing the wrong command thanks
[16:06] <cheli> xaoo
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi: proper spelling counts in the command line
[16:06] <DasEi> Gaudi: all right, open a trml
[16:07] <Gaudi> Dr_Willis: I am makaing a update but this is what caused the trouble on the first time
[16:07] <DasEi> Gaudi: know how to use paste ?
[16:07] <youknoweddavis1> anyone had any luck with teamspeak 3?
[16:07] <Gaudi> Dasei: I think I know my problem now, but I will most likely need your help in the future
[16:07] <rbellamy> So, when using NetworkManager to build a PPTP connection, I'm getting routing problems - namely dropped packets, and when I disconnect, NM leaves behind a route in my routing table... any suggestions?
[16:07] <Gaudi> dasei: it is not in this computer is on my laptop next to me
[16:08] <umang> docmax, you are more likely to get help if you put your question in one line so that it is easy to read.
[16:08] <zoom_bbb> hi ppl, I`ve got a lame question - just burned KK and want to use it without installing - yet it asks for login/psswrd, wtf?
[16:08] <DasEi> Gaudi: is it networked ?
[16:08] <youknoweddavis1> zoom, is it a livecd?
[16:08] <zoom_bbb> yea, it is
[16:08] <docmax> umang, ok, right now my laptop monitor is disabled. i want to have a shell on it... parallel to my main display...
[16:08] <Gaudi> DasEi: I got this problem while updating now "W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B"
[16:09] <Gaudi> DasEi: is that ok?
[16:09] <youknoweddavis1> zoom, are you using it on a machine that already has linux on it?
[16:09] <DasEi> Gaudi:easy fix :
[16:09] <jief-> hello. im having a bad case of memory blank. when you dist-upgrade, sometimes you're asking to replace a configuration file. for automated deployment, i remember there's a way to tell it to never replace config files. i just can't recall how. any knows?
[16:09] <umang> docmax: Can't help you there, but hopefully someone else can.
[16:09] <airtonix> zoom_bbb, since i dont know what you mean by KK i will assume you mean what i thought : Kevin Kensington.
[16:09] <magnetron> Gaudi: have you added a debian repository??
[16:09] <zoom_bbb> no, a screwed up winXp - wanna rescue some data before a format
[16:09] <zoom_bbb> airtonix: Karmic Koala
[16:10] <DasEi> Gaudi: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 9AA38DCD55BE302B
[16:10] <airtonix> zoom_bbb, that makes much more sense... i just ignored your question since it was so vague and obscure.
[16:10] <zoom_bbb> air: sorry than
[16:10] <raverjunpei> hello all.
[16:10] <DasEi> Gaudi: but that's a debian repo, unless other said I assume kaarmic (current) here
[16:11] <DasEi> Gaudi: is it networked ?
[16:11] <youknoweddavis1> zoom, have you tried making a new login/password?
[16:12] <zoom_bbb> how can I do that in a livecd?
[16:12] <Gaudi> DasEi: yes I am on kaarmic but I am just doing what the tutorial says, do you have any new one?
[16:12] <umang> !hello | raverjunpei
[16:12] <youknoweddavis1> dont you just log in?
[16:13] <DasEi> Gaudi: please answer questions and best login here from live, so you can easily copy n paste commands
[16:13] <DasEi> networked lappi ?
[16:13] <Gaudi> DasEi: they are on a LAN but I am afraid I don't know how to use it I've only been like 2 days on UBuntu
[16:14] <raverjunpei> i have a question pertaining to windows xp and ubuntu. question: i recently tried to reinstall windows xp on my ubuntu machine. i backup my mbr and made a copy of the super grub disk to get me back into ubuntu when i have finished installing windows. well when i finished installing windows and restart the computer after restoring my MBR in ubuntu. When i go to select WinXp from the os choice menu it gives methis error message: Error
[16:14] <DasEi> Gaudi: if you boot live cd behind a router, it should autoconnect
[16:14] <Gaudi> DasEi: so I guess they are then
[16:15] <DasEi> Gaudi: just launch a browser, check google, then you'll know
[16:15] <Gaudi> DasEi: Ohh yeah it is networking I tought you where asking if I had a connection between my computers silly me
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> Gaudi:  if the system has gotten trashed after just 2 days.. You may be better off just doing a reinstall. (backup any imporntant data)
[16:16]  * Dr_Willis has to wonder how the system go ttrashed
[16:16] <DasEi> Gaudi: so launch irc client on live and came back in here
[16:16] <Gaudi> ok
[16:16] <Gaudi> will do a.s.ap
[16:16]  * Gaudi wonders himself
[16:16] <rbellamy> One of my pptp connections is dropping packets, and NetworkManager is leaving a default route in my routing table when the connection is terminated - are there known issues with using NM for pptp?
[16:17] <raverjunpei> @ any one : i have a question pertaining to windows xp and ubuntu. question: i recently tried to reinstall windows xp on my ubuntu machine. i backup my mbr and made a copy of the super grub disk to get me back into ubuntu when i have finished installing windows. well when i finished installing windows and restart the computer after restoring my MBR in ubuntu. When i go to select WinXp from the os choice menu it gives methis error me
[16:17] <geeker> inxi -N
[16:17] <geeker> ixni -N
[16:17] <Myrtti> raverjunpei: your question is a bit too long and it gets cut off. shorten it or use pastebin
[16:17] <DJones> raverjunpei: You're message is getting cut off
[16:17] <raverjunpei> k
[16:18] <DJones> raverjunpei: The last part we see is "When i go to select WinXp from the os choice menu it gives methis error me
[16:18] <raverjunpei> says error 12 invalid device
[16:18] <DasEi> hi GaudiGabriev
[16:18] <GaudiGabriev> I am back
[16:18] <geeker> hey guys
[16:18] <geeker> any body here
[16:18] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: open trml
[16:18] <geeker> i need some help
[16:19] <DasEi> !ask | geeker
[16:19] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I haven't closed it
[16:19] <geeker> okay okay
[16:19] <geeker> sorry!!!
[16:19] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: know how to use pastebin ?
[16:19] <DasEi> geeker: :)
[16:19] <geeker> actually i need to access my network system over LAN
[16:20] <geeker> so i just need to know how can i?
[16:20] <GaudiGabriev> DaSei: no but I can google it
[16:20] <DasEi> !paste | GaudiGabriev:
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> geeker:  if you mean windows shares. the gnome file manager should be able to browse/access the shares
[16:20] <DasEi>  GaudiGabriev: I'll guide you
[16:21] <DasEi>  GaudiGabriev: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:21] <DasEi>  GaudiGabriev: edit > select all > copy (the whole file)
[16:21] <DasEi>  GaudiGabriev: call http://paste.ubuntu.com in browser
[16:22] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I get No protocol specified
[16:22] <raverjunpei> question, i installed winxp, backup my mbr in ubuntu before hand, made a SGD, restored my MBR after the winxp installation. when i go to select winxp @ the OS Choice menu i select winxp and it gives me this: Error 12 invalid device. how can i fix this?
[16:22] <DasEi>  GaudiGabriev: paste the file content in there, add name, press post, then give url from your browser back here
[16:22] <GaudiGabriev> ok
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> raverjunpei:  i always just resinstall GRUB  (or grub2) when needed.
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | raverjunpei
[16:24] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: url ?
[16:24] <raverjunpei> i know how to fix grub but when i do it wont let me in windows
[16:24] <candyban> I don't understand why Ubuntu does not allow you to set a password for the root user, but openssh has the option "PermitRootLogin yes" ... can anyone explain the logic behind this?
[16:25] <GaudiGabriev> DaSei: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379835/
[16:25] <DasEi> candyban: y, ssh with or without ability for superuser
[16:25] <GaudiGabriev> I will close the IRC client for a second I just changed the language of my keyboard to then one I am used to
[16:25] <flupke> hi, is there something like clusterssh that works in text mode ?
[16:25] <merlin2049er> hi, how do i hide a ext4 partion in vista?
[16:25] <DasEi> pinged out ? lol
[16:26] <rbellamy> Are there known issues with using NetworkManager for PPTP connections? I'm getting dropped packets, and my routes don't look right - as well, when the connection is terminated, NM leaves a default route in my routing table.
[16:26] <umang> merlin2049er, What do you mean? It shows up as a partition on Vista?
[16:26] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I am back
[16:26] <merlin2049er> ya my ext4 partion shows up as unformatted in vista
[16:26] <candyban> DasEi, ? I don't understand your answer ...
[16:26] <Skeptic> what's the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[16:26] <Skeptic> :)
[16:26] <Akkernight> ok, so I followed the GRUB 2 help page on Ubuntu, and when I do update-grub, the kernel I manually installed, is shown on there, but when I boot up and the GRUB menu shows, this new kernel doesn't show, why?
[16:26] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: right, that was a paste of your trml, least pastebin works, we're not chrooted yet
[16:27] <candyban> DasEi, if you are not allowed to use root ... then why have the option that allows root to login via ssh (and even with a password)
[16:27] <bharat_> can anyone tell me how i can get that apple mac toolbar for ubuntu 9.10
[16:27] <Draytone> hey
[16:27] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: what now then?
[16:27] <umang> merlin2049er, You mean in a partition manager?
[16:27] <DasEi> candyban:  ssh with or without ability for superuser-actions
[16:27] <merlin2049er> no it shows up in explorer
[16:27] <trism> Akkernight: you added the entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom?
[16:27] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo fdsik -l
[16:27] <merlin2049er> shows up as an H:\ drive
[16:27] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: paste the output
[16:28] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo fdisk -l   ,^typo
[16:28] <rbellamy> bharat_, mother google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=apple+mac+toolbar+for+ubuntu
[16:28] <Akkernight> trism: no, I guess I should try that?
[16:28] <candyban> DasEi, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... the default config is  "PermitRootLogin yes" ... again, I do not understand what you are saying (your sentence does not have a verb in it)
[16:28] <GaudiGabriev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/379838/
[16:28] <trism> Akkernight: where did you put the entry?
[16:28] <umang> merlin2049er, do you have one of the drivers installed: (they've listed a few on this thread) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1149626
[16:28] <bharat_> should have known thnx anyways :P
[16:29] <shanku> der
[16:29] <DasEi> candyban: you can configure ssh to allow root-access or not there
[16:29] <Akkernight> trism: I don't remember, I've been looking for help for about 2 weeks now, no one has replied and now I've forgotten how I did it :S lemme find the help page back
[16:29] <merlin2049er> ok i see how it's done in vista to hide a drive
[16:29] <umang> merlin2049er, if you do, then I guess you just need to uninstall. I'm reasonably sure that Vista doesn't support ext* partitions by default.
[16:29] <julio> how can i start ubuntu live without x?
[16:30] <candyban> DasEi, I know what it does ... my question is that I do not understand why root access is by default enabled
[16:30] <candyban> DasEi, what is the logic behind it
[16:30] <umang> julio, server?
[16:30] <merlin2049er> go into vista partion manager and remove the partion
[16:30] <merlin2049er> parition
[16:30] <umang> merlin2049er, Don't do that!
[16:30] <suarez> ola
[16:30] <umang> merlin2049er, That will delete the partition and you will not be able to access it at all!
[16:30] <Akkernight> trism: ok, I used update-grub and it's supposed to be automatic entry
[16:30] <suarez> abla en español
[16:31] <misterB> I initiated an ssh session with -D parameter. Does anyone know how to terminate the session?
[16:31] <merlin2049er> oh dang
[16:31] <DasEi> candyban: maintenance ?!
[16:31] <erUSUL> !es | suarez
[16:31] <trism> Akkernight: can you pastebin the output of sudo update-grub; ?
[16:31] <merlin2049er> http://expertester.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/how-to-hide-your-hard-disk-partition-in-vista/
[16:31] <merlin2049er> says hide here
[16:31] <suarez> es que no te en tien do que soy español
[16:31] <rbellamy> Are there known issues with using NetworkManager for PPTP connections? I'm getting dropped packets, and my routes don't look right - as well, when the connection is terminated, NM leaves a default route in my routing table.
[16:31] <suarez> que avles en español
[16:31] <suarez> que n0 te en iendo
[16:31] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: url from sudo fdisk -l ?
[16:32] <candyban> rbellamy, avoid the use of PPTP if you can ... it's insecure
[16:32] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379838/
[16:32] <DasEi> !es | suarez
[16:32] <suarez> nene
[16:32] <merlin2049er> remove the drive letter from vista?
[16:32] <arn50050> i have a ? an i need help bad i need to now if anyone has time to help i need to open a port in bittorent i have done everthing on the internet an nothing helps i have a windstream 2wire wireless router and im running ubuntu 9.10
[16:32] <deviantintegral> anyone here using a network bridge in ubuntu? I have 2 network cards, one to the network and one to an xbox. It works sometimes, but about once a day the server stops being able to make outgoing connections.
[16:32] <rbellamy> candyban, yep, I know, but it's not something I have control over at the moment...
[16:32] <suarez> came marde
[16:32] <umang> merlin2049er, as long as you are not *deleting* the partition it is fine.
[16:32] <candyban> rbellamy, ok, as long as you are aware ;)
[16:32] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: so sda1 is your / on hd
[16:32] <merlin2049er> ok, i'll try it -- nothing is on the ext4 parition yet anyways
[16:32] <suarez> que me la comas
[16:33] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[16:33] <merlin2049er> how do i automatically mount the new drive i created?
[16:33] <merlin2049er> in ubuntu
[16:33] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[16:33] <rbellamy> candyban, yep - you gotta figure anything that's hanging around to support XP "security" is gonna be something of a waste...
[16:33] <suarez> que eres quino
[16:33] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo chroot /media/sda1
[16:33] <Akkernight> trism: http://codepad.org/DH1UCxWo
[16:33] <suarez> chino
[16:33] <suarez> ti eres quino si o no
[16:33] <DJones> !es > suarez
[16:33] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: so far everything's been good
[16:34] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:34] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: still not to be opened ?
[16:34] <GaudiGabriev> noup
[16:34] <suarez> pero abla en espain
[16:34] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi:  no
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[16:34] <rbellamy> candyban, so... any suggestions?
[16:34] <trism> Akkernight: I thought you said this was grub2, grub2 has no menu.lst, can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[16:34] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo apt-get update, errors ?
[16:35] <candyban> rbellamy, no, I don't use it  http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/protocol-security.phtml
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> trism: I miss menu.lst. simpler times
[16:35] <julio> umang: nope, i just want to try some x settings on the xorg.conf... but first i have to paste it from somewhere else
[16:35] <djp_> hi. i've just uninstalled wine and it left an entry in the applications menu. i deleted this entry and now, when trying to reinstall wine, no menu entry is made under applications. how do i get it to create the menu entry when i reinstall?
[16:35] <trism> Akkernight: or, do you have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[16:35] <lexe> Hi everyone
[16:35] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: none
[16:35] <rbellamy> candyban, yep... been all through that page, with no luck so far. Okay... I'm just gonna use pon instead
[16:35] <Akkernight> trism: I do, and it says this is GRUB2
[16:36] <arn50050> i need help opening a port can anyone help me 8-)
[16:36] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: so your apt isn't broken
[16:36] <trism> Akkernight: because update-grub is printing output like it was updating legacy grub
[16:36] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: it was, should I try to log into it now?
[16:36] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: what was the issue with the sys that made you start this ?
[16:36] <lexe> I'm running ubuntu for 3 years, i recently bought a new PC and the system isn't stable at all. Can anyone please help me?
[16:36] <Akkernight> trism: that's what I did
[16:36] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I couldn't start Ubuntu, it just froze at the ubuntu symbol
[16:36] <LaireTM> somebody herewho works with ubuntu one?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Djp_: check in $HOME/.config/menu ,I think there are items pertaining to wine there. You should also delete $HOME/.wine ,to get a fresh config
[16:37] <Akkernight> whoops
[16:37] <lexe> LaireTM: yes
[16:37] <Myrtti> LaireTM: #ubuntuone
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Djp_: or rename it at least
[16:37] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I had an error while updating something with the Synaptics and then reboot then it just wouldn't start, so I started on the recovery mode and I got a PANIC thingy
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> So annoying not having a tilde character
[16:37] <magn3ts> Anyone with a MBP have digital audio out working?
[16:37] <Akkernight> trism: I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't it have GRUB 2?
[16:37] <trism> Akkernight: is this a clean 9.10 install or did you install grub2 manually?
[16:37] <djp_> ActionParsnip: yeah, i deleted ~/.wine manually... i'll check ~/.config/menu...
[16:37] <trism> Akkernight: it does if you clean install, but not if you don't (unless you install it manually)
[16:38] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: so initramfs possibly
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Djp_: you'll find more specific help in #winehq
[16:38] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: how should I proceed now?
[16:38] <llutz> ActionParsnip: take this one ~
[16:38] <DjAngo23> Is there a program, take a snapshot (selection) and sending it on a website, and set the url of this image in the clipboard? All in one Key Combination ? Like TinyGrab on Mac. There is something like Shutter, but it does this in seperte steps...
[16:38] <magn3ts> Anyone with a MBP have digital audio out working? It worked before I installed this for analog audio/line out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/437150
[16:38] <trism> Akkernight: if you don't have grub2, you can just edit your menu.lst like you always did to add the kernel
[16:38] <Akkernight> trism: I didn't do anything except download the kernel packages, install them and update-grub
[16:39] <trism> Akkernight: although, update-grub says it is updating menu.lst...something odd is going on here
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Django23: you could script it possibly
[16:39] <Akkernight> trism: I have both menu.lst and the grub.cfg with the GRUB2 style thingy
[16:39] <danka> hi
[16:39] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: cd /boot
[16:39] <trism> Akkernight: ok, did you look in grub.cfg and see if you have the kernel in there?
[16:39] <Akkernight> trism: can't I type some command to see my version of GRUB?
[16:39] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: ls
[16:39] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: done
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Django23: you'd use imagemagick to grab the selection to a preset file, then have the script upload the file etc
[16:40] <lexe> I'm having random freezes, can anyone please help me?
[16:40] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: stuff of genric images there ?
[16:40] <draytone> im knew to ubuntu what are the off topic chat rooms?
[16:40] <ubyserver> Hey Everyone!
[16:40] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: yes
[16:40] <[[thufir]]> is it possible to have the login screen not prompt for a password?
[16:40] <ubyserver> Has anyone ever installed Plesk to Ubuntu LTS?
[16:40] <Akkernight> trism: nothing is under 40_custom
[16:40] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: paste it, please
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Django23: you can pipe the url generated to xclip to put it on the clipboard ready for pasting
[16:41] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: Hum, well, was looking for something already finished. Scripting is not yet something for me ;)
[16:41] <trism> Akkernight: yeah that is for adding manual entries, but it is being probed fine, so you shouldn't need to, the issue is update-grub seems to be updating the wrong file
[16:41] <GaudiGabriev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/379844/
[16:41] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379844/
[16:41] <arn50050> well one last try is there anyone that can help me i need to open a port in bittorent im useing ubuntu 9.10 an i have a 2wire wireless router
[16:41] <DasEi> [[thufir]]: yes, system > preferences > loginscreen
[16:41] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: But thanks for this ;)
[16:41] <[[thufir]]> DasEi: doh!  thanks.
[16:41] <Akkernight> trism: well, can I then just let it update from menu.lst and use that?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Django23: sounds fairly simple. Scripting stuff is dead useful and makes you see how slow gui can be
[16:41] <DjAngo23> BTW i mean by selection, that i can grab some pixel on the screen with my mouse. ;)
[16:42] <trism> Akkernight: try sudo update-grub2;
[16:42] <trism> Akkernight: and pastebin the output
[16:42] <Akkernight> trism: command not found
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Django23: imagemagick can be used at cli to make you select a section of the screen to copy
[16:43] <trism> Akkernight: did you upgrade to 9.10 or install it clean?
[16:43] <airtonix> DjAngo23, there is a command you can install from the repos which you will find useful in this hypothetical script you're about to create. it captures the mouse and after a click provides all kinds of image related info about the mouse location and the stuff under the mouse.
[16:43] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.31-19-generic
[16:43] <merlin2049er> what happened to free cell in gnome games?
[16:43] <Akkernight> trism: Installed it with disc, replacing Arch Linux, and I did a full format, I use 64bit
[16:43] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: errors ?
[16:44] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: no such file or directory
[16:45] <McL0VIN> howdy folks
[16:45] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: Sounds interesting, I have now the tools i need to build it. Do you have a tutorial to learn scripting ?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Merlin2049er: isn't it solitaire?
[16:45] <McL0VIN> i have never used proxy before, can i setup a proxy server on my ubuntu box ?
[16:45] <trism> Akkernight: what is the installed version printed for apt-cache policy grub-pc; ?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Django23: the guys in #bash will help. There are guides everywhere
[16:45] <DjAngo23> Okay ;)
[16:45] <DjAngo23> thnaks
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: look into squid or snort
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> !proxy
[16:46] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Not useful
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> !proxies
[16:47]  * DasEi brews a coffee
[16:47] <Akkernight> trism: http://codepad.org/utq7garE
[16:47] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: no such file or directory
[16:47] <kian> How I can convert flv format to mp4
[16:47] <magmarules> Guys my computer has a touchpad but it is not recognized as synaptics, but as a logitech mouse apparently. How can i remove its drivers to disable it ?
[16:47] <airtonix> DjAngo23, also image magick docs should be on your harddrive after you install it : /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/www/api/
[16:47] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: well my dad is in african and he is using Magic Jack to call me, but in Africa the blocked/Filter that traffic and when he use a proxy software it let him makes the calls
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Kian: look into ffmpeg, mencoder, handbrake and winff
[16:48] <trism> Akkernight: how about apt-cache policy grub-common;
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: could try ekiga ;)
[16:48] <airtonix> DjAngo23, woops you need to install imagemagick-docs for that directory to exist first
[16:48] <coz_> kian,  If you want mp4  then use handbradke since it defaults to mp4 conversion
[16:49] <DjAngo23> nautilus /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/www/api/
[16:49] <coz_> kian,  as ActionParsnip  suggested... having all of them installed is not a bad idea
[16:49] <DjAngo23> oups...
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Coz_: nice, thanks :D
[16:49] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -u  initrd.img-2.6.31-19-generic
[16:49] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: yeah, but for the easy of his use, plug the USB and connect a phone to it then make the call
[16:49] <coz_> kian,  for example ...with ffmpeg installed you just    do   ffmpeg -i name.flv   name.avi
[16:49] <doolph> anyone know how can I connect to openldap server with ldap administration tool?
[16:49] <Akkernight> trism: http://codepad.org/iCfXTMvl
[16:49] <magn3ts> Anyone have a favorite upnp media server for ubuntu?
[16:50] <coz_> kian,  I believe  ffmpeg also does mp4  but havent tried
[16:50] <DjAngo23> airtonix: Thanks for that link, i gonna install and read then
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: true
[16:50] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: still the same no such file or directory
[16:50] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -u  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-19-generic
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Magn3ts: vlc + web interface. Works sweet with my g1 phone ;)
[16:50] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, server, not client :P
[16:50] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: same
[16:51] <trism> Akkernight: the link doesn't work, but mostly I just want to know if it says Installed: (none)
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Magn3ts: yes vlc has a web interface to control what's being played via a web interface
[16:51] <Akkernight> trism: nope, it says installed: 1.97-beta4-lubuntu4.1
[16:51] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, uh,  I dont think you know what a upnp server is. thanks though
[16:51] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: please use tab when using my name , that way it will trigger me when i am reading something else on my other screen
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Magn3ts: if you want something pretty on the server side then xbmc will do
[16:52] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: so type Mc then his tab
[16:52] <trism> Akkernight: alright, try sudo apt-get install grub-pc;
[16:52] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, The possible answers to this question are coherence, 360 media server or mediatomb
[16:52] <seb^^> herro!
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: my client doesn't have tab complete, so no
[16:52] <airtonix> DjAngo23, because i as also interested in this i just worked out that you want use something like this from the commandline as a demo :  import MyScreenshot.png
[16:52] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: but you are still in /boot  (trml) ?
[16:52] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: yes
[16:52] <airtonix> DjAngo23, http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-ubuntu-linux
[16:53] <seb^^> i have a situation and im going to describe it,  help would be awesome!  .... i think i have a fairly simply problem
[16:53] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: which client
[16:53] <seb^^> my ubuntu does not associate the swap file automatically
[16:53] <trism> Akkernight: after that, if it doesn't do it automatically, try sudo update-grub; again
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: I'm in here daily. I am aware of tab complete. I just can't do it on my phone
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: darairc
[16:53] <seb^^> i have to go in the partition editor tool, once booted, to turn swap on
[16:53] <Akkernight> trism: I have to choose to replace /etc/default/grub or keep it, what should I choose?
[16:54] <McL0VIN> ActionParsnip: nice thought i could help :)
[16:54] <trism> Akkernight: you can keep it
[16:54] <JoshuaL> seb^^, are you sure you tould the partition editor to use the swap space as swap?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: nice try ;)
[16:54] <McL0VIN> hahah
[16:54] <llutz> seb^^: correct your /etc/fstab
[16:54] <JoshuaL> nvm me
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Mclovin: I also don't have a tilde character :(
[16:54] <seb^^> llutz, i read about that
[16:54] <JoshuaL> listen to llutz :P
[16:55] <DjAngo23> airtonix: Good source, thanks
[16:55] <seb^^> what should i search Internet for?
[16:55] <McL0VIN> ~ ~ ~ ~ i got them all :P
[16:55] <McL0VIN> hahaha
[16:55] <airtonix> DjAngo23, now to keep it in one line, you just need a image version of pastebinit
[16:55] <magn3ts> Does anyone know if Karmic's usermod will allow me to move my home to a new partition **and encrypt it**?
[16:55] <InvaderZim> is there a way to find out which module created an interface, e.g. wlan0 ?
[16:55] <xyz> FUCK YOU ALL
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[16:55] <FloodBot1> xyz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <McL0VIN> anywho where can i learn about proxies , and how to use them
[16:55] <Akkernight> trism: http://codepad.org/2bBZ19L0
[16:55] <djp_> ActionParsnip: thanks. all sorted. i deleted the entire ~/.config folder in the end and rebooted. everything is now as it should be and ~/.config has been recreated minus the menus directory.
[16:56] <llutz> seb^^: whats your swap-partitions UUID? use "blkid" to get it
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> Djp_: sweet deal:D
[16:56] <erUSUL> InvaderZim: lshw -C Network
[16:56] <ISsupport00232> i have a file stuck in readonly mode.. how can i chmod this so i may edit?
[16:56] <seb^^> llutz, im at work now but i could find that id, then what?
[16:57] <trism> Akkernight: that looks much better! you might want to go check your grub menu to see if it was added
[16:57] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi:  you still here?
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[16:57] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: !ops
[16:57] <InvaderZim> erUSUL: thank you!
[16:57] <DasEi> !ops
[16:57] <LordHawke13> Does anyone here work with Mac OS X?
[16:57] <llutz> seb^^: add a line like this to your /etc/fstab "UUID=bla-bla-bla-foo  none                    swap            sw              0 0"
[16:57] <seb^^> llutz, thank you very much
[16:58] <seb^^> i will research
[16:58] <Krewl> seriously
[16:58] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sure; I wonder why upd.. -u doesn't work, there two images
[16:58] <DasEi> are*
[16:58] <Krewl> why would you join any channel and just yell that (Stuff I can't repeat to prevent the banstick ;) )
[16:58] <llutz> seb^^: "bla-bla-bla-foo" to be replaced by your UUID
[16:58] <seb^^> llutz,  yes :)
[16:58] <jmbp> hola quisiera saber como instalar microsoft office 2007
[16:59] <jmbp> quien me puede ayudar
[16:59] <LordHawke13> I've made a BASH script, but I've designed it for the rediculously stupid, so I'm trying to put it in my own .app file. I've got it working all except for one thing.
[16:59] <JoshuaL> !ubuntu-sp
[16:59] <JoshuaL> !ubuntu-es
[16:59] <JoshuaL> :(
[16:59] <Myrtti> !es | jmbp
[16:59] <jpds> !es | jmbp
[16:59] <JoshuaL> ah
[16:59] <JoshuaL> ty
[16:59] <LordHawke13> It tries to run the executable just like any other and I need it to run the executable in terminal.
[16:59] <DasEi> If one chrooted into the root of hd from a live cd , sudo update-initramfs -u shall update the lates initram
[16:59] <LordHawke13> Can anybody help?
[16:59] <cyberoidx> Hey, I'm trying to install lamp-sever^ and getting this error "
[16:59] <cyberoidx> * Now talking on #hackers-india
[16:59] <cyberoidx> * Topic for #hackers-india is: Le[Identify yourself on NickServ to speak] | http://i.imgur.com/CcaOl.jpg <-- lifeeth after he found out he had to give a talk || [14:42:59] <kitallis> i can make a window and a button | <n9986> hg = highly gay | Assaultcube server: 112.196.129.223:9999 password: lulz
[16:59] <FloodBot1> cyberoidx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <cyberoidx> * Topic for #hackers-india set by nirbheek_!~nirbheek@gentoo/developer/nirbheek at Fri Feb 19 22:15:37 2010
[17:00] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: try again from rootdir :
[17:00] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev:cd
[17:00] <GaudiGabriev> ok
[17:00] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi:  ok
[17:00] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev:ls     > must show your harddrive
[17:00] <GaudiGabriev> Desktop
[17:00] <cyberoidx> so I'm getting the error libpq5: Depends: libkrb53 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not installable
[17:00] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: desktop
[17:00] <mierda> hola.  yo tengo una pregunta de ubuntu.  vosotros pueden ayudame por favor?
[17:00] <jpds> !es | mierda
[17:00] <LordHawke13> Does anyone have any ideas? Any one ever mess with Macintosh .app Applecations?
[17:01] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev:cd
[17:01] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: ls
[17:01] <cyberoidx> I'm doing "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[17:01] <cyberoidx> " and getting error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:01] <cyberoidx>   libpq5: Depends: libkrb53 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not installable
[17:01] <cyberoidx> "
[17:01] <FloodBot1> cyberoidx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <ticko> anyone know a program to put .mkv on a dvd a good converting program or something?
[17:01] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: /home, /root, and so on
[17:01] <fabrizio> i have a problem with my screen could some one help me?
[17:02] <akav> So a bunch of new stuff just showed up in the Update Manager for me on 9.10, including Qt4 libs. Anyone know why?
[17:02] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi:  I am on root now
[17:02] <Akkernight> trism: it worked :D
[17:02] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: I think I've always been
[17:02] <jmbp> no funciona
[17:02] <trism> Akkernight: excellent!
[17:02] <jpds> jmbp: Entra en #ubuntu-es.
[17:03] <ticko> anyone know a program to put .mkv on a dvd a good converting program or something?
[17:03] <MikeJB> X is not working for an install. The safe graphics mode didn't work. What else to try?
[17:03] <magn3ts> Does anyone know if Karmic's usermod will allow me to move my home to a new partition **and encrypt it**?
[17:03] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: what now?
[17:03] <Akkernight> how do I remove installed kernels?
[17:04] <fabrizio> how can u congigure x.org on karmik??
[17:04] <fabrizio> configure ups
[17:04] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -u
[17:04] <Dimoutlook> Hi to all, is it safe to edit grub to remove the left over stuff after a upgrade I'm useing Karmic Koala /64 dual boot with vista home premium
[17:04] <jmbp> bueno gracias
[17:04] <jmbp> ok
[17:04] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: still the same I am kinda getting annoyed and I think you too
[17:04] <mierda> dame la papel de inodoro.  necesito tomar una mierda muy grande.
[17:05] <MikeJB> Nevermind, it was just lag.
[17:05] <e01> is it possible to adjust subtitle position on karmic`s totem?
[17:05] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: cd /boot
[17:05] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo update-initramfs -u
[17:05] <seb^^> llutz , thank you
[17:05] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: still the same
[17:05] <magn3ts> Is there even documentation on how karmics home encryption works. how to enable/disable it after the fact? I can't believe that ubuntu released this with so little configurability after the fact. esp considering it literally means my data is locked up
[17:06] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: grep: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[17:06] <brijith> hi friends,I am in trouble, I can not take nautilus. and I cann't  see any files in my desktop... This happened after a ubnormal restart .. Can any one help me
[17:06] <Roanito> .join #
[17:06] <sebsebseb> magn3ts: I would recommend not using the encrypted home option, but to late now I guess
[17:06] <magn3ts> sebsebseb, why do you recommend against it?
[17:06] <ticko> anyone know a program to put .mkv on a dvd a good converting program or something?
[17:07] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: k then, you said you could boot safe mode, though with a kernel panic, you then can also choose the older, prbly intact kernel, as there are two in your sys, so reboot, choose second kernel, then let's see on
[17:07] <sebsebseb> magn3ts: since it's for people that are extremally paranoid,  and if you need to re install Ubuntu,  or want to change distro in the future, you could get into problems trying to get hold of your data
[17:07] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: will do
[17:07] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: brb
[17:07] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: sudo reboot
[17:07] <airtonix> !info devede > ticko
[17:07] <GaudiGabriev> ticko: I don't know if VLC Media Player works in Linux give it a try
[17:07] <magn3ts> sebsebseb, dm-crypt is fairly well supported and it doesn't requrie much paranoia to want your data to be secured these days, especially on a laptop at a public university
[17:08] <MenZa> VLC works in Linux, GaudiGabriev -- sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:08] <ticko> GaudiGabriev: vlc works but i need to convert not to play
[17:08] <DasEi> ticko: vlc is fine
[17:08] <GaudiGabriev> DasEi: coulnd't do it reboot: relocation error: reboot: symbol __abort_msg, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[17:08] <DasEi> GaudiGabriev: exit, then sudo reboot
[17:08] <ticko> DasEi: im not trying to play im trying to burn a .mkv to dvd and dvd's dont play .mkv so i need to convert first
[17:08] <erUSUL> magn3ts: ubuntu uses ecruptfs for encripting home
[17:08] <acanther> Hi
[17:09] <airtonix> ticko, devede
[17:09] <magn3ts> erUSUL, ah
[17:09] <acanther> Where is LAMP configure file after LAMP install ?
[17:09] <brijith> hi friends,I am in trouble, I can not take nautilus. and I cann't  see any files in my desktop... This happened after a ubnormal restart .. Can any one help me
[17:09] <erUSUL> ecryptfs*
[17:09] <DasEi> ticko: go for devedee then
[17:09] <ticko> airtonix: it converts .mkv? thanks airtonix
[17:09] <magn3ts> >_< well whats a good way to secure my data then :[
[17:09] <andrea> !list
[17:09] <airtonix> acanther, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[17:10] <acanther> airtonix: thx
[17:10] <Guest65574> ciao
[17:10] <MenZa> !it | Guest65574
[17:12] <erUSUL> acanther: there is no single conf file for lamp
[17:12] <Guest65574> !lista
[17:12] <erUSUL> !lamp | acanther
[17:12] <biatche> i have many files of which contains: <div id="signature">Generated %T by %h (%s).</div> ......... ;;;; i wish to strip " (%s)." What's the best way? I was thinking of sed, but aint too sure how to use it lol
[17:12] <Zer> Howdy. I'm attempting to burn an ISO with Nautilus. /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info shows that it can burn a CD-R and a DVD-R, the file manager shows "Blank CD/DVD-ROM" and yet the burner keeps asking me to insert a blank disk.
[17:12] <Zer> Any ideas?
[17:12] <MenZa> biatche: You probably want s/\(\%s\)//g
[17:13] <MenZa> biatche: I'm not entirely sure how sed works again, but it's something like that.
[17:13] <erUSUL> biatche: sed 's/\(\%s\)//g'
[17:13] <biatche> what does the /g do heh
[17:13] <MenZa> biatche: Global
[17:13] <MenZa> erUSUL: :D
[17:13] <biatche> ah ok
[17:13] <biatche> thanks
[17:13] <biatche> ill give it a try
[17:13] <MenZa> biatche: welcome :)
[17:13] <erUSUL> biatche: remove all ocurrences in each line not just the first
[17:13] <LordHawke13> I need help. Has anyone ever used Macintosh .app Applecations?
[17:13] <semitones> when I try to connect to my access point with wicd, it complains that it can't find an IP address -- what can I do at this juncture (nm-applet never complained)
[17:13] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: you can not in linux
[17:13] <brijith> Hi all nautilus is not running ... Please help
[17:14] <LordHawke13> Not what I'm trying to do. . .
[17:14] <anonymous> hey can anybody tell me the good name of video converter for ubuntu 9.10 besides winff?
[17:14] <LordHawke13> I've wrote a BASH script. Since it's for the rediculously stupid, I want to put it in a familiar .app file.
[17:14] <Datz> Hi is there any documentation  with the frequency of kernel updates to ubuntu?
[17:14] <hagna> apt-get install python-webpy hung apt-get and I can't kill it not even with -9 what's going on?
[17:14] <jmbp> hola me puedes
[17:14] <DasEi> Datz: kernel.org
[17:14] <biatche> nearly right
[17:14] <erUSUL> Datz: no;
[17:14] <jmbp> ayudar
[17:14] <biatche> gotta rid the brackets
[17:15] <DasEi> !es | jmbp
[17:15] <Datz> Ok, thanks guys
[17:15] <LordHawke13> I want the .app file to run the BASH script in terminal. I've been looking. Does anyone know how to do that?
[17:15] <MenZa> LordHawke13: A .app file is more like... something you'd use for OS X.
[17:16] <MenZa> LordHawke13: Just save the file as .sh, and when people click it, they can "Run in terminal"
[17:16] <LordHawke13> I'm using it on OS X. I want it to run the executable in terminal.
[17:16] <jmbp> i need help
[17:16] <MenZa> LordHawke13: Then this isn't where you want to ask.
[17:16] <MenZa> LordHawke13: Try ##apple :)
[17:16] <LordHawke13> I don't know where to ask. I've been loo. . .
[17:16] <Datz> erUSUL: do kernel updates for ubuntu just come out when there are important security updates?
[17:16] <mnemonikk> LordHawke13: I also don't know about .app files under ubuntu. Normally you'd just add "#!/bin/bash" as the first line and make the file executable.
[17:17] <LordHawke13> It is.
[17:17] <LordHawke13> I'll ask there
[17:17] <MenZa> LordHawke13: Good luck.
[17:17] <mnemonikk> LordHawke13: like chmod a+x myshellscript
[17:17] <erUSUL> Datz: correct; and (main) version wont change in a release
[17:17] <DasEi> Datz: this and support for new hardware
[17:17] <LordHawke13> I know how to chmod it. I just want it in a .app that will run the executable file in terminal instead of the normal way.
[17:18] <jmbp> what tool is for make move
[17:18] <Datz> erUSUL: ok thanks, meant kernel updates btw. (Just interesting in how uptimes...sort of)
[17:18] <DasEi>  jmbp : like moving a file ? mv
[17:18] <LordHawke13> It won't let me talk in ##apple. What's wrong? 'cannot send to ##apple'
[17:18] <mnemonikk> LordHawke13: sorry, I can't help you with apple stuff, I'm a straight linux user. 8-)
[17:18] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: maybe you need to register first
[17:18] <E_R_I_K> Hi
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> !register > LordHawke13
[17:19] <jmbp> yes a like
[17:19] <dagny_taggart> I'm on Karmic and I have a sound problem since a system update.  It was either a kernel or nvidia driver update.  The output of lspci, aplay and alsamixer here - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5775b4a3
[17:19] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hey, I'm trying to set up twinview between my DVI monitor and svideo computer (for media-center stuff ;))
[17:19] <s0l1dsnak3123> I have a nvidia 9500GT
[17:20] <jmbp> what is your opinion of pitivi
[17:20] <s0l1dsnak3123> The TV is detected correctly, but I get a blank screen on the TV (fine on the monitor)
[17:20] <LordHawke13> ##apple cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[17:20] <magn3ts> Is anyone in here knowledgable on usermod and moving home to a new partition?
[17:20] <soapy_illusions_> @dagny_taggart when dod this problem start
[17:20] <Datz> LordHawke13: leave the room, change the nick and register, then return
[17:20] <Clone29> how to get conectted my wifi,but this ubuntu not have new kernel? please help me..
[17:20] <nebo> !message NickServ identify 542bla107
[17:21] <dagny_taggart> soapy_illusions_: yesterday
[17:21] <MenZa> nebo: I suggest you change your password very, very quickly.
[17:21] <Clone29> ..and i use DELL VOSTRO 1014
[17:21] <DasEi> nebo for free
[17:21] <MikeW> Can I change the PATH from inside a script and have the path update persist after the script finishes?
[17:21] <MikeW> (Ubuntu Karmic)
[17:22] <nebo> how to change pass? ^^
[17:22] <soapy_illusions_> @dagny_taggart was there an nvidia update, I did not see one, or did u manually update it
[17:22] <nebo> i can't log-in on #ubuntu-ru =( coz I can't identify o_O
[17:23] <dagny_taggart> soapy_illusions_: i think it was an update from http://ppa.launchpad.net/nvidia-vdpau/ppa/ubuntu
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[17:23] <AntiProxy> hi guys... any idea why my bind9 would listen on udp 0.0.0.0:53 and tcp 127.0.0.1:53 when i had set listen-on { 127.0.0.1; };? is there another directive to specify which IPs to listen on for the UDP port?
[17:24] <DasEi> nebo:join #freenode
[17:25] <alabd> hello , how to make .iso file for a CD ?
[17:25] <s0l1dsnak3123> alabd - check out acetoneISO
[17:25] <s0l1dsnak3123> do a google search
[17:25] <acanther> Why in my 127.0.0.1, index.php file want to download, not preview ?
[17:25] <ZykoticK9> MikeW, your script would probably have to additionally update your .bashrc file for the path change to persist, you might want to ask in #bash for a more authoritative answer (as I am only guessing)
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Antiproxy: wouldn't 0.0.0.0 not get connected to due to bit anding of the addresses?
[17:26] <manuel__> hi i try to get 3d with intel chip i915
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Alabd: or mkisofs would do it too
[17:26] <manuel__> but glxinfo dies with segfaut
[17:26] <dagny_taggart> I'm on Karmic and I have a sound problem since a system update.  It was either a kernel or nvidia driver update.  The output of lspci, aplay and alsamixer here - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5775b4a3
[17:26] <AntiProxy> ActionParsnip, it works alright.. i just don't want it listening on the public interface.. and i figured there must be an easy solution rather than closing the ports with iptables
[17:26] <manuel__> mesa is installed and dri is loaded in the config
[17:26] <jph_> how do I run a check sum on two dirs so that i can see if everything was copied completely?
[17:26] <manuel__> any ides'?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Antiproxy: I think it means it won't accept anything using udp
[17:27] <acanther> Why in my 127.0.0.1, index.php file want to download, not preview ?
[17:27] <DasEi> alabd: genisoimage
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Antiproxy: I could be wrong
[17:27] <AntiProxy> ActionParsnip, 0.0.0.0 means all interfaces actually
[17:27] <airtonix> jph_, you could try md3sum
[17:27] <animeshmeher> HI! All ,
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Jph: or you can maybe use diff
[17:27] <jph_> airtonix thanks i will try that
[17:27] <candyban> airtonix, md3sum exists as well? (I heared/used md4sum)
[17:27] <animeshmeher> can anyone help me with cdma network problem
[17:27] <acanther> Why in my 127.0.0.1, index.php file want to download, not preview ?
[17:28] <alabd> daedhel: genisoimage /media/cdrom   ?
[17:28] <thevor> Hey I'm having a problem running update manager. It has prevented me from updating from quite some time and I'm not sure what it is that's happening. I have an error message, but it is long, and might be better sent via private message, can I send this to someone?
[17:28] <airtonix> candyban, its been a while. so its is entirely possible that there are several variations of doing a checksum
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> acanther: I've seen lots ask that but not seen an answer. Have you asked in #httpd
[17:28] <danb1> how can i comment something out in xorg.conf?
[17:28] <acanther> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[17:28] <DasEi> danb: prefix line with #
[17:29] <egsome> i'm problem with Dragon Player ( Phonon Powered Player ), i can't play any MP3 file with it !
[17:29] <egsome> i've problem with Dragon Player ( Phonon Powered Player ), i can't play any MP3 file with it !
[17:29] <danb1> perfect thanks
[17:29] <danb1> :)
[17:29] <littlegirl> thevor: You could paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:29] <animeshmeher> danb1: prefix the line with #
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | egsome
[17:29] <thevor> littlegirl: Thanks!
[17:29] <airtonix> egsome, isn't dragon player fake software ?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Egsome: i'd ask in #kubuntu too, dragn is kde based
[17:29]  * airtonix lols
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !info dragon-player
[17:30] <marcos> does anybody here know what is mysql.so ?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !find dragon
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !info dragonplayer > airtonix
[17:30] <nou7> hello!! quick question! i got Laptop Sony Vio core2 Duo, problem i have 4G on vista they appear 4G but on Ubuntu they appear as 3G why ?
[17:30] <al_> does the syntax of this look right : "sudo mount -t ntfs -o remove_hiberifle,force,loop,offset=246576840704 /home/al/cleghorn.bin /mnt"
[17:30] <animeshmeher> Can anyone help me with 3g cdma netowrk problem
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Nou7: you need 64bit OS or a pae enabled kernel
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Nou7: 32bit OS can only reference 3.2Gb RAM
[17:32] <DasEi> al_: nope
[17:32] <nou7> ActionParsnip, should i modify from kernal ? i have 32bit =(
[17:32] <al_> DasEi: thats good because it aint working, what am I missing?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Nou7: pae will get you a 32bit OS which can access more RAM. 64bit can access 4 exabytes of RAM
[17:32] <DasEi> al_: device btw iso file is missing
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Nou7: just install the pae generic kernel
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[17:33] <saneatsu> hi
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !find pae
[17:33] <nou7> ActionParsnip, i check it here : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/ =)
[17:33] <al_> DasEi: blah! I spelt hiberfile wrong!
[17:33] <thevor> Hey, I was just talking about a problem I am having with updater. Something is out of date and I don't know where to go to change it. Here is a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.org/94112
[17:33] <al_> DasEi: just picked it up now
[17:33] <DasEi> al_: and also missed a space in front of options
[17:33] <saneatsu> 什么？
[17:34] <DasEi> !cn
[17:34] <thevor> Any help would be appreciated
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Nou7: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae ,should install it afaik
[17:34] <brijith> hi all, nautilus stopped working please help me
[17:34] <abhi_nav> animeshmeher: ask here
[17:34] <VCoolio> brijith: use thunar
[17:35] <nou7> ActionParsnip, Thx =)
[17:35] <brijith> VCoolio: but happened to nautilus .
[17:35] <animeshmeher> abhi_nav : thnk i have tried here
[17:35] <DasEi> thevor:                    sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com   5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Brijith: what is output if you run it in terminal. Use pastebin for multiple lines
[17:35] <VCoolio> brijith: what doesn't work, and is there useful output if you try to run nautilus in a terminal
[17:36] <DasEi> thevor:   then try again
[17:36] <brijith> ActionParsnip:ok
[17:37] <DasEi> seems someone had a gaudi here today
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Brijith: you can always use terminal to kill off nautilus (will lose desktop icons) then rerun (icons will reappear). Then try the file browser again
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Dasei: gaudi was a crazy guy!
[17:38] <thevor> DasEi: Same problem
[17:38] <magn3ts> The Ubuntu installer should come with a huge warning about the encrypted home dir telling you that you wont be able to move your home dir or touch it without reinstalling
[17:38] <magn3ts> very infuriating
[17:38] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: gaudi is a german slang for fun
[17:38] <DasEi> thevor: did it import the key
[17:38] <DasEi> ?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Dasei: also.a spanish artist who put mosaics on everything
[17:39] <thevor> It started trying to, and it said it couldn't resolve host 'keyserver.ubuntu.com'\
[17:39] <brijith> ActionParsnip: this happend when my system restarted suddenly ...
[17:39] <thevor> slash wasn't in there, that was my typo during this message
[17:39] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: yeah, myrrt.. was real busy to keep channel readable today, k, back topic
[17:39] <brijith> ActionParsnip: after that when it boot again I could not find any of the files and folder on dektop
[17:40] <daedaluz> how do I stop screensaver from kicking in while watching a movie? even if I disable it, screen will dim. running on laptop
[17:40] <brijith> ActionParsnip: but it is there, I can list them through terminal
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Brijith: id try the kill the processes. You may have to rename or delete the nautilus config folder(s) to get default settings if the poweroff has damaged them
[17:40] <daedaluz> ubuntu 9.10, smplayer
[17:40] <thevor> DasEi: It cxcouldn't resolve host 'keyserver.ubuntu.com'
[17:40] <InvaderZim> how do I block all tty terminals from running at boot? i would do that with inittab but can't find anything on upstart or rc
[17:41] <brijith> ActionParsnip: ok
[17:41] <DasEi> daedaluz: scrensaver is one source, I assume you disabled already, bios > energy-savings in ?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: I do it in xorg.conf to specify timeouts etc. You could try the advanced tab under screensaver to kill the screenoff
[17:41] <DasEi> thevor: firewall ? can you ping it ? it's up
[17:41] <llutz> InvaderZim: delete /etc/event.d/tty*
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: why not use gnome-mplayer ,smplayer uses qt libs so will bloat your install (unless you have other kde apps installed)
[17:42] <InvaderZim> llutz: delete is a little radical, i just wanna disable it
[17:42] <llutz> InvaderZim: afaik that is the way to disable
[17:42] <brijith> ActionParsnip: http://www.pastebin.com/d40df72a1
[17:42] <InvaderZim> how to reenable?
[17:43] <brijith> ActionParsnip:is what I am getting when I run in terminal
[17:43] <llutz> InvaderZim: create new, get back from backup. idk, upstart lacks documentation
[17:43] <thevor> DasEi: I just ran:   ping keyserver.ubuntu.com  and it's doing something, so I'm guessing I can ping it.
[17:43] <daedaluz> ActionParsnip, no good reason, will try that out. i'm just used to smplayer. I disabled display sleeping from power saving now.
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Brijith: try: ps -ef | grep nauti ,kill the pids off
[17:43] <devcoffee> hi! i just built a kernel current kernel using make-kpkg, with the default ubuntu karmic kernel config as a base for "make oldconfig" - but the package i get is 380mb in size … any ideas why this is? am i missing an option for make-kpkp?
[17:44] <daedaluz> I'm just curious, as in both OS X and Windows playing video or even flash full-screen prevents screensavers and display sleeping
[17:44] <DasEi> thevor: you should get an answer with time and no paketloss, stop by crtl-c
[17:44] <^mNotIntelligent> hello all. there seems to be soem problem with my ubuntu 9.04...the sleep/wake is not working ,,,,though hibernate, shutdown etc works fine.....i'm using ubuntu 9.04 on dell studio 1555...
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: you can specify power/timeouts as zero in xorg.conf which is another reason I hate their not being a skeletal file anymore.
[17:44] <daedaluz> would thing that there is a way to do that in *nix as well
[17:44] <josiah> could I get some help with a faulty dvd player? I'm running 9.10 with restricted extras and I'm a newbie
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: what other OSs do is moot
[17:45] <daedaluz> moot?
[17:45] <DasEi> josiah: sudo apt-get install vlc*
[17:45] <airtonix> daedaluz, irrelevant
[17:45] <ksbalaji> I just downloaded package to install oo 3.2 but this deb package for ubuntu contains many deb files. Where to start please?
[17:45] <thevor> DasEi: I got an answer after ctrl-c. 34% packet loss...so must be firewall?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: I can name a billion things linux does which neither of those OSs do with serious labour
[17:45] <todd_> does anyone know how to get panel icons on ubuntu?
[17:45] <josiah> I have vlc installed, only certain dvds do not play, almost arbitrarily
[17:45] <airtonix> daedaluz, i think vlc has an option in its config ui that is supposed to do what you want
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: irellavant == moot
[17:45] <daedaluz> ActionParsnip, that's irrelevant.
[17:45] <daedaluz> airtonix, it doesn't, actually
[17:46] <VCoolio> todd_: you mean launchers of you want the taskbar to be only icons?
[17:46] <DasEi> josiah: vlc is third party, bringin it's own codecs, for more on linux, read :
[17:46] <DasEi> !codecs
[17:46] <brijith> ActionParsnip: http://www.pastebin.com/m66d5f2d5
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Daedaluz: exactly, so why is a mac being able to disable screensaver relevant either?
[17:46] <^mNotIntelligent> josiah, must be some issue with the dvd ?
[17:46] <brijith> ActionParsnip:in that u can see a user mac. that is a new user
[17:46] <DasEi> thevor: 34% is quite a lot, what could be there ?
[17:47] <brijith> ActionParsnip:actually user brijith has the issue
[17:47] <todd_> well, i have seen where people have their icons on their bottom task bar, when you move your mouse over them they light up and get larger
[17:47] <josiah> I've tried the dvd in a standalone player and on windows and it works fine
[17:47] <VCoolio> todd_: that's a dock, try gnome-do (docky), cairo-dock or awn
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Brijith: ok. Kill the processes there then press alt+f2 and run nautilus
[17:47] <brijith> ActionParsnip:as you can see there are no process nautilus for brijith
[17:47] <DasEi> JoshuaL: quickn easy play with vlc
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Vcoolio: simdock is great and doesn't require compiz stuff
[17:47] <todd_> what do you mean. i am pretty new to ubuntu
[17:48] <brijith> ActionParsnip:But that nautilus listed is of user mac
[17:48] <ZykoticK9> josiah, the supported method on Ubuntu to play DVDs is to use "libdvdread4" after install you need to run a script -- what this does is download libdvdcss2 from the Medibuntu repository - then you "should" get DVD playback in all your apps (not just VLC).
[17:48] <brijith> ActionParsnip:the one I am chatting from
[17:49] <BorisK> hello =)
[17:49] <airtonix> daedaluz, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/43308/screenshot_lktNW0.png
[17:49] <brijith> ActionParsnip:I have trouble in user brijith, and for that user there is no nautilus, is'nt it ?
[17:49] <daedaluz> ActionParsnip, because I was wondering if it's doable it's relevant. what really pissess me off is guys like you. good day.
[17:49] <danb1> how can i reinstall my evdev_drv.so file... it accidentaly got removed?
[17:49] <airtonix> daedaluz, not exactly fullscreen, but its supposed to work...although i haven't had any success with it
[17:49] <VCoolio> todd_: a dock is a thing like apple has, a bar at the bottom (or where-ever) that has animation effects and has taskbar and other stuff on it
[17:49] <DasEi> !language | daedaluz
[17:50] <animeshmeher> danb1 search for it in synaptic
[17:50] <josiah> I have libdvdread4 and the restricted extras installed, and can't find libdvdcss2
[17:50] <daeron> hi everyone one (again)!
[17:50] <danb1> How do i do that?
[17:50] <daeron> i've got a trouble with my earphones and the speakerphones
[17:50] <todd_> Vcoolio: oh i see, how would i go about putting something like that on my system?
[17:50] <airtonix> josiah, its hidden... you need to find it and run it(which then installs extra stuff)
[17:50] <DasEi> josiah: read the link given, see zykotic
[17:50] <ksbalaji> I just downloaded package to install oo 3.2 but this deb package for ubuntu contains many deb files. Where to start please?
[17:51] <daeron> when i plug in the earphones i would like not to ear nothing from the speakerphones but this doesn't happen
[17:51] <animeshmeher> danb1: its in ubuntu system menu
[17:51] <daedaluz> airtonix, me neither which is why I was asking. I think it requires you to play videos as root to be able to manipulate X11 or something
[17:51] <daeron> is there someone who can help me?
[17:51] <brijith> ActionParsnip:only in user brijith have the issue...
[17:51] <animeshmeher> danb1: administation or preferance , plz check it out
[17:51] <DasEi> daeron: install alsamixergui, see if you can seperate there
[17:52] <danb1> animeshmeher, with out it i have no control of the kb and mouse
[17:52] <brijith> ActionParsnip:do you know where nautilus keeps its preferences for each user
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> josiah, after installing libdvdread4 did you "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" that actually is the important part of the install?
[17:53] <daedaluz> daeron, separate soundcard or what?
[17:53] <airtonix> daedaluz, apparently banshee does this .
[17:53] <danb1> animeshmeher, any other ideas?... has to be done from terminal mode
[17:53] <josiah> no, Ill do that now
[17:53] <daeron> i've got only one soundcard
[17:53] <VSpike> Can anyone suggest how I can get a PCCard Ethernet interface working? dmesg just says pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0
[17:53] <VSpike> All the info I've found with Google seems to be out of date
[17:53] <daeron> but when i plug in the earphones i do not want to ear nothing coming from the speakers of my notebook!!!
[17:54] <airtonix> daedaluz, http://banshee-project.org/download/archives/1.2.0/
[17:54] <DasEi> VSpike: does ifconfig sees it ?
[17:54] <daedaluz> airtonix, will check that out
[17:54] <animeshmeher> danb1: use apt-get filename and try
[17:54] <VSpike> DasEi: no
[17:54] <comm> Hi, trying to add 3w-9xxx to initramfs-update/modules, however after running update-initramfs -u and rebooting still get a busybox and only floppy when doing cat /proc/modules
[17:54] <animeshmeher> danb1: i am not sure of it though
[17:54] <daeron> what do u mean for separate?
[17:54] <VSpike> lspcmcia says "CardBus card -- see "lspci" for more information"
[17:54] <VSpike> lspci doesn't show it
[17:54] <ZykoticK9> josiah, also -- in order for this to work on my systems, I've always had to reboot after installation (other than kernel updates only time I have to reboot to get something to work)
[17:55] <DasEi> VSpike: standard install (pcmia modules not left out) ?
[17:55] <daedaluz> airtonix, it's only weird because Debian suspends screensaver during smplayer video playback
[17:55] <al_> whats the comand to del all files in a dir? rm *?
[17:55] <chamuscas> Does anyone knows how to change irc server ?
[17:55] <magn3ts> Maybe someone can at least tell me how to mount an encrypted home directory in a live disc session? please
[17:56] <daedaluz> magn3ts, mount
[17:56] <DasEi> al_: yes, but CAREFUL, better cd there or add the full path, gone is gone
[17:56] <VSpike> DasEi: it's actually running ubuntu server
[17:56] <ZykoticK9> al_, "rm *" will remove all files / but not subdirectories
[17:56] <magn3ts> daedaluz, right, but its encrypted.
[17:56] <animeshmeher> danb1: cant u log on into gnome
[17:56] <al_> DasEi: ok. cool
[17:56] <danb1> Nope
[17:56] <VSpike> DasEi: perhaps that omits pcmcia modules?
[17:56] <danb1> :(
[17:56] <DasEi> al_: saver use mv to trash, then empty trash
[17:56] <animeshmeher> danb1: ok are u connected to internet
[17:57] <DasEi> VSpike: no, paste your /var/log/syslog
[17:57] <al_> DasEi: mv * trash ?
[17:57] <danb1> im in recovery mode root with network
[17:57] <airtonix> daedaluz, ideally you want it to occur regardless of the player you're using yeah? like this seems to hint that such a thing is possible using scripts : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6858698&postcount=10
[17:57] <airtonix> daedaluz, and here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1090393
[17:58] <daedaluz> magn3ts, doesn't encrypted hdd's require the correct hash file from OS in order to decrypt it?
[17:58] <danb1> animeshmeher, ya i have net access
[17:58] <daedaluz> find that file and pipe it or something so maybe then
[17:58] <airtonix> daedaluz, so there you see the script deals with only firefox, however you could easily modify it so that it checks for any of your media playing apps that go fullscreen
[17:58] <magn3ts> uh sure thing
[17:58] <animeshmeher> danb1: ok try apt-get install filename
[17:58] <DasEi> al_: yeah let's say I have whole dir /downloads ,  sudo mv -R /downloads   ~/.local/share/Trash
[17:58] <daedaluz> airtonix, cool :)
[17:59] <al_> DasEi: k great ta
[17:59] <todd_> when i minimize a window, it dosnt go to the task bar, it just closes. does anyone know how to fix this problem?
[17:59] <DasEi> al_: you then have the chance to restore before emptying trash,rm caused many nightmares (rm* ran from root, oo)
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> todd_, have you changed themes by chance?  Could the button for minimize be in a different location?
[17:59] <danb1> animeshmeher, it doesnt work :( i do have the cd but i dont know where to get the file on there
[18:00] <VSpike> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f53a6258d
[18:00] <animeshmeher> ok name the file
[18:00] <VSpike> DasEi: not much of interest there.. perhaps this card is just too obscure
[18:00] <animeshmeher> danb1: ok name the file again
[18:00] <animeshmeher> danb1: ill send u the link
[18:00] <danb1> evdev_drv.so
[18:01] <al_> DasEi: heres a tricky one I need to cron : remove all files older that two weeks from dir_a recursively
[18:01] <DasEi> VSpike: I use one on my lappi, noname, was just adapted and dhcpd'd
[18:01] <todd_> Zykotic9: i changed the theme, and thats when the problem started. but even now when i change back to the default themes, it still just closes the folder when i try to minimize
[18:01] <VSpike> DasEi: i do recall that I had some suspicion that the pc-card interface on that lappy was damaged...perhaps I should try the card in another linux laptop
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> !tab > todd_
[18:02] <ZykoticK9> todd_, I'm affraid I don't have an answer for you then, sorry
[18:02] <navras> ciao
[18:02] <brijith> hi al,  what is the command to logout
[18:03] <VSpike> DasEi: heh works perfectly in another machine.  If you think ubuntu-server should work the same in that respect without any user input then my guess is that pc-card interface is fried somehow.
[18:03] <Linuks83> brijith: "exit"
[18:03] <ZykoticK9> brijith, you want to logout to GDM with a terminal command?
[18:03] <brijith> ZykoticK9: yes,exactly
[18:04] <DasEi> VSpike: think you got it :  11.273574] i2c-adapter i2c-3: unable to read EDID block.
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> brijith, i have NO idea
[18:04] <Linuks83> man gdm?
[18:04] <todd_> thank you for your help
[18:04] <brijith> ZykoticK9: ho
[18:04] <VSpike> DasEi: that relates to the pc-card? Interesting
[18:04] <DasEi> VSpike: check bios for onboard chips enabled
[18:04] <VSpike> DasEi: thanks, will do
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> brijith, did you just call me a "ho"?
[18:05] <clrg> !language | ZykoticK9
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> clrg, it wasn't me
[18:05] <brijith> ZykoticK9:its just an exclamation
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> brijith, ok - just checking :)  all good
[18:06] <Linuks83> brijith: http://linux.die.net/man/1/gdm
[18:06] <Linuks83> gdm-restart?
[18:06] <brijith> Linuks83: thanks for the link
[18:06] <k4rt33k> Hey guys, I got a Sandisk cruzer pen drive. After I gave it to a friend it is not getting recognized anywhere? These are the lines in the dmesg http://pastebin.com/m67351cf2 . Note that it is NOT working on windows also. Is there any way in which I can get my pendrive to work?
[18:06] <Linuks83> brijith: sure
[18:07]  * Linuks83 is away: I'm busy
[18:07] <clrg> k4rt33k: Please run "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[18:07] <DasEi> k4rt33k: data maybe destroyed ?
[18:07] <PeskyJ> when I boot up I get a load of IO errors reading device sr0 but then it boots ok - what is that device?
[18:07] <k4rt33k> DasEi: yeah data is not a problem
[18:07] <clrg> PeskyJ: Floppy
[18:08] <DasEi> PeskyJ: nope, cd/dvd, usual (dirt)
[18:08] <DasEi> clrg: fd0 is floppy
[18:08] <DasEi> k4rt33k: run gparted, give a fresh partiton table
[18:08] <PeskyJ> ahh, yeah this is on a laptop, so the DC/DVD drive is probably on an internal USB bus or something - makes sense
[18:08] <k4rt33k> clrg: updated pastebin http://pastebin.com/d21dd6ae6
[18:09] <doubletoker> does anyone here, know of great daily planner application?
[18:09] <clrg> DasEi, PeskyJ: Sorry, answered too fast. DasEi is right.
[18:09] <DasEi> PeskyJ: just remove optomedia, prob dissapears magically
[18:09] <k4rt33k> DasEi: The problem is that USB is not getting recognized in fdisk also
[18:09] <PeskyJ> hum, that could also explain why the card reader isn't working either - haven't looked into that yet though
[18:10] <daeron> always the same trouble
[18:10] <clrg> k4rt33k: Yep, your kernel isn't recognizing the device as a storage device, otherwise it would show up with fdisk.
[18:10] <DasEi> PeskyJ: or just haven't the cd/dvd automounted
[18:10] <clrg> k4rt33k: Probably the stick is broken? Have you tried using it on another computer?
[18:10] <k4rt33k> clrg: yeah, so how can I use gparted or some other means to make it recognizable?
[18:10] <k4rt33k> clrg: Yeah, it is not working on my windows box as well
[18:10] <clrg> k4rt33k: gparted is just a frontend for tools like fdisk, e2fsck etc
[18:11] <DasEi> k4rt33k: strange, gparted ?
[18:11] <PeskyJ> DasEi: well the CD works fine after it's booted up
[18:11] <desnaike> doubletoker Day Planner 0.10 i use sunbird
[18:11] <DasEi> PeskyJ: these are just readerrors
[18:12] <clrg> k4rt33k: I guess it's broken then
[18:12] <k4rt33k> clrg: I know it might be a bit far-fetched but can broken usb's be fixed through some linux tools?
[18:12] <daeron> alsamixergui didn't need me in anyway
[18:12] <DasEi> k4rt33k: launched gparted ?
[18:12] <Aneda> OMFG lol @ http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5351757/WinRAR_3.90_Beta_4_Cracked___Keygen___Instructions.txt___tnedor
[18:12] <Aneda> oops lol
[18:12] <Aneda> wrong url
[18:12] <Guest81143> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my PC. I went to install my printer which is on my network (Ricoh Aficio MP C2550) it shows proprietary drivers but when I click "Activate" and put in my password it just sits and does nothing. Can someone help me to get it working?
[18:12] <Aneda> i found this really funny video
[18:12] <clrg> !ot | Aneda
[18:13] <aramosfet> apcupsd help anyone?
[18:13] <clrg> k4rt33k: I don't know. If the hardware is damaged, I don't think software will fix it =)
[18:13] <DasEi> k4rt33k: ? and what about lsusb ?
[18:13] <k4rt33k> DasEi: No luck with all the conventional tools
[18:14] <DasEi> k4rt33k: have a windows system handy ? de-allocate space, try again
[18:14] <k4rt33k> clrg: Yeah. =) just wanted to make sure so that I can be sure I am not throwing my money away
[18:14] <clrg> k4rt33k: Can't you bring it back where you bought it? You probably have warranty, right?
[18:15] <DasEi> k4rt33k: you said windows sees it, so prbly messed mbr, check syslog, too
[18:15] <doubletoker> desnaike, thanks
[18:15] <magn3ts> Can someone explain what this does: ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[18:15] <todd_> when i try to minimize a folder it closes rather then going into my bottom panel. does anyone know of a solution to my problem???
[18:15] <tim_> i carnt get my dvds to work on linux anyone got the solution
[18:15] <clrg> DasEi: If there was no partition table or no MBR on the device, fdisk would've shown it with no partitons.
[18:15] <DasEi> !info vlc | tim_
[18:16] <coz_> tim_,  did you install the restrcited extras?
[18:16] <tim_> yes
[18:16] <clrg> tim_: libdvdcss
[18:16] <k4rt33k> DasEi: I said windows did not see it =)
[18:16] <DasEi> clrg: probably, usb drivers.. , usb disabled.. few possibs, nor ?
[18:16] <coz_> tim_,   did you run this command?    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:16] <DasEi> k4rt33k: aah, then looks like a dead piece of plastic
[18:16] <aramosfet> I have APC BACK UPS ES 650. i've configured apcupsd on ubuntu 8.10. How do i disable UPS shutdown once ubuntu and been shutdown. I need this since i have other low power utilities running on the same ups
[18:17] <DasEi> k4rt33k: tried on same or different box ?
[18:18] <coz_> aramosfet,  I am not sure myself but if no one can answer here you may want to try the ##linux channel
[18:18] <jMyles_> Is there any danger to chmod'ing /var/www to 775 and changing the group to www-data?
[18:18] <aramosfet> Thanks Coz_
[18:19] <rethus> want to install syscp or ispcp via apt... but i didn't found it
[18:19] <rethus> in which repos can i found it
[18:19] <DasEi> rethus: scp ?
[18:19] <nmvictor> is their a terminal browser out their that beats w3m, i doubt.I once tried lynx and its not as flexible...
[18:19] <rethus> syscp is an isp-software
[18:19] <magn3ts> What is the folder structure of partitions that hold /home generally?
[18:20] <trism> nmvictor: I rather like elinks, but I haven't really used w3m so I can't say how they compare
[18:20] <Kadir_Sahin> Selam yeniden iyi aksamlar
[18:20] <mikeconcepts> I would like to know it anyone is using lucid on a Toshiba NB305 netbook, is it a good fit? I currently have mint 8 on it and would like a faster boot
[18:20] <Kadir_Sahin> Guten nacht
[18:20] <llutz> magn3ts: /user1 /user2 /user3    just all those user-homes
[18:21] <coz_> aramosfet,  also look here   http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/manual.html
[18:21] <magn3ts> llutz, so format it as ext3, add an entry to stab and then rsync /home to /media/whatever and then reboot?
[18:21] <DasEi> rethus: no clue on my side, first hit on google : www.syscp.org/
[18:21] <llutz> magn3ts: yes
[18:21] <magn3ts> Also, what FS should I be using these days? ext3 or ext4?
[18:21] <magn3ts> llutz, schweet
[18:22] <aramosfet> coz_, I have, there's a SLEEP option which tells how long should the ups wait before shutting off power, but doesn't talk about disabling the feature.
[18:23] <coz_> aramosfet,  mm  ok   I am just becoming familiar with this myself...my guess is someone on ##Linux may have more experience with this than I do
[18:24] <DasEi> rethus: just from a glance citadel maybe (groupware server), but as said a guess
[18:24] <nmvictor> I wish to sync my tombo notes with a ssh server on my localhost, anyone know how to fire up sshfs, i tried but it fails with:  Read: Coonection reset by peer
[18:24] <Shogoot> ny program you guys can recomend to make a complete system backup of my win7 OS? preferably freeware. :)
[18:25] <DasEi> Shogoot: have a hd with an according free partiton ?
[18:25] <tim_> yessss my dvd works
[18:26] <DasEi> tim_: and wasn't seen outside no more
[18:26] <Shogoot> dasei i dont
[18:26] <tim_> thanks everyone for your help
[18:26] <nmvictor> Shogoot: win7%$#%$%%????? wrong topic i gues, explains the luck of recommendation
[18:26] <DasEi> Shogoot: which medium you want to use to hold the update ?
[18:26] <Shogoot> if it possible from a ubuntu partition ill luv that too.
[18:27] <coreyman> Anyone know where I can get an iso of Chromium that I can install? I'm not on a 64bit machine so I can't build it.
[18:27] <DasEi> Shogoot: which medium you want to use to hold the *backup ?
[18:27] <Shogoot> daesi a dvd maybe?
[18:28] <etsorbme88> ! ubottu ever flush irc user names?
[18:28] <coz_> coreyman,  did you look here? https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[18:28] <coreyman> coz_ so it's just a browser
[18:29] <brijith> Hii All, I lost everything I downloaded, it was about 25 % when system went down. now it starts downloading from 4 %, how sad, does anone know to start to utorrent again from where it stoped
[18:29] <blakkheim> coreyman: consider using iron instead of chromium
[18:29] <coreyman> am i missing something?
[18:29] <coz_> coreyman,  yeah its actually just google chrome
[18:29] <DasEi> Shogoot: there are few tools (>>#windows) can be used for free, from linux could pack/split with tar, not very comfortable, if of any reasonable size, sectorcopy on hd is an easy option
[18:29] <coz_> coreyman,  there is a distribution based on ubuntu called chromium let me check that
[18:29] <chris__> omg
[18:29] <Geli> hello
[18:29] <Kadir_Sahin> hello geli.
[18:29] <chris__> i just bought  gfx on ebay
[18:29] <chris__> and now i can get a better one for the same price
[18:29] <Shogoot> Dasei im gonn aneed all the space on my hd. its a small 200gb one.
[18:29] <Geli> ps3 wireless guitar works with Ubuntu
[18:29] <chris__> what can i do
[18:29] <coz_> coreyman, I cant fint the link...it was emailed to me at some point
[18:29] <chris__> omg
[18:30] <DasEi> coz_: no two differnt things, chromium-browser andd google-Os
[18:30] <coz_> DasEi,  right but someone created an ubuntu derivation named chromium   cant find the link though
[18:30] <chris__> i use Chromium
[18:30] <chris__> and ubuntu
[18:30] <Shogoot> well i gotto go
[18:30] <DasEi> Shogoot: err, a single dvd has less than 5gig, have fun, then
[18:30] <chris__> how do i cancel my ebay winning
[18:31] <Geli> anybody knows???
[18:31] <chris__> anyone knnow
[18:31] <al_> how do you have more than one file type in find -name, ie *.spf and *.spi
[18:31] <blakkheim> !please | Geli
[18:31] <chris__> lol ubottu
[18:31] <KaffeeJunky123> I have a problem with my g15 keyboard on Ubuntu 9.04, whenever I press a media key a MappingNotify event is created and my right alt key stops working until I reset it in the Keyboardconfig
[18:31] <Geli> sorrry
[18:31] <Kadir_Sahin> I have been using the dictionary with the help of friends in English.
[18:31] <Kadir_Sahin> 2003 installed on a computer server to run the sql proğram Clie computer and how do delphi loaded under windows ubuntuda
[18:31] <Geli> !please
[18:31] <chris__> lol
[18:31] <KaffeeJunky123> This is wat xev displays when I pressed a media key
[18:31] <KaffeeJunky123> MappingNotify event, serial 47, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[18:31] <KaffeeJunky123>     request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248
[18:31] <chris__> Geli,  what can i do
[18:32] <chris__> who has ebay here
[18:32] <chris__> that can help me out
[18:32] <chris__> i am bummed
[18:32] <BluesKaj> coz_, someone also did an opensuse derivation and called it "chrome OS powerd by suse"  :)
[18:32] <chris__> again
[18:32] <KaffeeJunky123> Is there any way to stop this from happening?
[18:32] <Geli> anybody knows ps3 wireless guitar works with ubuntu
[18:32] <Geli> ?
[18:32] <sk33to84> Hi guys... im new to linux and having a problem with my graphic drivers i think.. i followed a guide for intel graphics on www.ubuntuforums.org but no help.... any1 who had the same problem and managed to fix it?
[18:32] <DasEi> chris__: expalin more
[18:32] <coz_> BluesKaj,  that's interesting
[18:32] <anarki2004> is there a way to access a ubuntu partition from windows and grab files?
[18:32] <magn3ts> chris_, this is so incredibly OT its not funny
[18:33] <magn3ts> chris_, the point is that youre not able to do so. hence, ebay.
[18:33] <coz_> coreyman,  I think i found some links    http://sourceforge.jp/projects/chromium/releases/
[18:33] <sk33to84> !repeat
[18:33] <KaffeeJunky123> anarki2004: that depends on your filesystem
[18:33] <DasEi> chris__:y, meet me there for that topic
[18:33] <chris__> DasEi,  i bought a new gfx card and now i just seen on the results there was a better gfx card for near the same price,  i
[18:33] <anarki2004> KaffeeJunky123: it was whatever the default for 9.10 is
[18:33] <Geli> join/#ubuntu-hu
[18:33] <KaffeeJunky123> anarki2004: there are windows dirvers for ext3 afaik, I don't know if there are already ext4 drivers for windows
[18:33] <zleap> 24 mins to go
[18:33] <coz_> coreyman1,    http://sourceforge.jp/projects/chromium/downloads/45531/chromium-jp.20100119.iso/
[18:33] <KaffeeJunky123> anarki2004: that would be ext4
[18:33] <seanbrystone> HI whats this error mean? W: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  univedeb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:34] <H2Nut> Hi all, anyone had success installing ubuntu9.10 on an pc based on nvidia nforce-1 chipset based motherboard
[18:34] <T-Bone> Hello.
[18:34] <KaffeeJunky123> anarki2004: google ext4 windows driver, maybe you'll find something
[18:35] <coreyman1> thanks coz_
[18:35] <anarki2004> KaffeeJunky123: i'll give that a shot
[18:35] <coz_> coreyman1,  no problem
[18:35] <Guest82323> I deleted my .ecryptfs folder (in the home directory), by mistake.... help!
[18:35] <T-Bone> I just installed Wine and got a little frustrated.
[18:35] <DasEi> chris__:whatever, wrong chan here
[18:35] <T-Bone> Is this a Linux thing? Where things sometimes just don't run?
[18:35] <KaffeeJunky123> So anyone here who got an idea about my keyboard problem?
[18:35] <magn3ts> Guest82323, there is no helping you mang. Your data is adios
[18:35] <AdvoWork> if ive done cp -r dir /location and its failed, and i restart, will it start from scratch or continue and ignore the files its already done?
[18:35] <T-Bone> keyboard problem.
[18:35] <KaffeeJunky123> The right alt key get's unmapped as soon as I use a media key on my keyboard
[18:35] <DasEi> T-Bone: #winehq
[18:36] <T-Bone> oh, neat
[18:36] <KaffeeJunky123> xev displays this message MappingNotify event, serial 51, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[18:36] <KaffeeJunky123>     request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248
[18:36] <Jermuk> hi all
[18:36] <T-Bone> How do I use this #winehq?
[18:36] <Guest82323> really
[18:36] <magn3ts> it would be nice if ubuntu blocked rm /home/.ecryptfs from executing
[18:36] <cowrix> Hello?
[18:37] <DasEi> AdvoWork: from beginning, better use rsync
[18:37] <cowrix> Hello?
[18:37] <sk33to84> !repeat
[18:37] <magn3ts> Guest21512, assuming you were using ecryptfs, yes. It stores your data it /home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private so if .ecryptfs is gone, so is your data
[18:37] <DasEi> T-Bone: /j #winehq in your irc-client
[18:37] <cowrix> I need some help
[18:37] <sk33to84> we all do :P
[18:37] <cowrix> :[
[18:37] <Guest82323> crap, thanks man
[18:37] <cowrix> can someone help me?
[18:37] <anarki2004> just ask your question
[18:38] <chris__> i love GOS
[18:38] <magn3ts> !ask | cowrix
[18:38] <cowrix> ok
[18:38] <chris__> we love GOD
[18:38] <chris__> ALL OF US
[18:38] <rww> ubottu: ot | chris__
[18:38] <chris__> GOD IS KEEPER
[18:38] <magn3ts> chris__ !ot and no we don't
[18:38] <cowrix> I'm noob with lunix so ber with me
[18:38] <chris__> lol
[18:38] <magn3ts> cowrix, just ask please
[18:38] <cowrix> I installed Ubuntu
[18:38] <chris__> sorry man
[18:38] <magn3ts> good first step :)
[18:38] <cowrix> And now I cant get into Windows 7
[18:38] <sk33to84> hehe
[18:38] <chris__> sk33to84,  sup
[18:39] <seanbrystone> HI whats this error mean? W: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  univedeb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:39] <MichRT> Hey!
[18:39] <magn3ts> cowrix, right, did you install over windows 7?
[18:39] <alabd> can we limit update manager internet using/band with ?
[18:39] <sk33to84> getting black screen on ubuntu chris__ :(
[18:39] <cowrix> i dont think tho
[18:39] <magn3ts> cowrix, are you in Ubuntu right now?
[18:39] <cowrix> I think I installed it on anotehr hardrive
[18:39] <cowrix> yep
[18:39] <seanbrystone> nvm i think i spotted the typo in that synaptic entry
[18:39] <MichRT> Question: how do you burn .dmg in Ubuntu?
[18:39] <cowrix> on ubuntu now
[18:39] <magn3ts> cowrix, how are you on IRC?
[18:39] <PeskyJ> I've got a built in Texas Instruments 5-in-one card reader and it shows up in lshw but doesn't mount when I put in a card - what can I do to figure out what's wrong?
[18:39] <cowrix> umm
[18:39] <cowrix> website
[18:40] <magn3ts> cowrix, ok. open up a terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[18:40] <tiredbones> I'm trying to update my system; I'm getting  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.37 80]. I tried pinging the ip but, no response. Is the server down?
[18:40] <cowrix> yep
[18:40] <diss3ntive> alabd:  You can use a traffic shaper/bandwidth limiter to limit the traffic inbound or outbound
[18:40] <magn3ts> cowrix, type `sudo fdisk -l`
[18:40] <KaffeeJunky123> As soon as I press a media key on my g15keyboard the right alt key get's unmapped, I've no clue what could cause this, I get a MappingNotify event in xev when pressing a media key
[18:41] <MichRT> How do you burn .dmg in Ubuntu?
[18:41] <diss3ntive> alabd:  Look into wondershaper or trickle
[18:41] <magn3ts> !paste
[18:41] <peleg> I am trying to upgrade to 8.04, which is LTS. Will I be able to upgrade directly to the next LTS later?
[18:41] <diss3ntive> !lame
[18:41] <magn3ts> cowrix, then paste that in http://paste.ubuntu.com and send me a link to it
[18:41] <KaffeeJunky123> Changing the keyboardlayout brings my alt key back to work until I press a media key again
[18:41] <cowrix> umm
[18:41] <peleg> cowrix, did you answer me?
[18:41] <cowrix> command not fond?
[18:41] <coz_> MichRT,  you may have to convert that to an iso
[18:41] <diss3ntive> !learntohelpinsteadofexclamation!
[18:41] <KaffeeJunky123> does anyone have the slightest clue what could cause this problem?
[18:41] <coz_> MichRT,    http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/01/23/ubuntu-quicktip-converting-max-dmg-images-into-iso-images/
[18:41] <alabd> diss3ntive: what ?
[18:41] <cowrix> sorry every is moving so fast
[18:41] <Jermuk> hi all: i have a problem. I want to connect to my server but Putty said: No authentification method avaiable. But some minutes before, it worked. I use RSA and Password login is disabled. I just installed fail2ban, but FTP and other services works well. Do you know this Problem?
[18:41] <cowrix> what did you ask peleg?
[18:42] <magn3ts> cowrix, thats not possible
[18:42] <diss3ntive> alabd:  You want to limit the bandwidth?  Use a traffic shaper
[18:42] <etsorbme88> !clear users
[18:42] <magn3ts> cowrix, try it again
[18:42] <peleg> I am trying to upgrade to 8.04, which is LTS. Will I be able to upgrade directly to the next LTS later?
[18:42] <PeskyJ> diss3ntive: free help is a privilege, not a right
[18:42] <cowrix> what is the command again?
[18:42] <genii> peleg: Yes
[18:42] <ubyserver> peleg: Will you be using Plesk to administrate?
[18:42] <alabd> diss3ntive: yes but for specific app , like update manager
[18:42] <ubyserver> Anyone here every install Plesk Panel on ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[18:42] <magn3ts> cowrix, `sudo fdisk -l`
[18:43] <magn3ts> type just whats inside the quotes
[18:43] <cowrix> sudo fdisk -l
[18:43] <peleg> genii, thanks!
[18:43] <MichRT> coz_ Awesome! Will try...
[18:43] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error:               sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[18:43] <peleg> ubyserver, I don't know what Plesk is.
[18:43] <magn3ts> cowrix, in the terminal dude
[18:43] <ubyserver> Oh.
[18:43] <diss3ntive> PeskyJ:  Free help was the idea behind all of this mess anyhow.  It is only a privilege by definition to the ones who don't really want to help....
[18:43] <cowrix> yep
[18:43] <cowrix> did it
[18:43] <diss3ntive> help is definitely optional :)
[18:43] <cowrix> came up with soem stuff
[18:43] <coz_> MichRT,  before trying that
[18:43] <Jermuk> nobody an idea why i cant connect to my server with putty ?
[18:43] <magn3ts> cowrix, copy and paste that here (Sorry all)
[18:44] <peleg> genii, do you know when will the next LTS be released? Will it be 11.04 ?
[18:44] <coz_> MichRT,  i would google     ubuntu   burn .dmg
[18:44] <nobimint> Jermuk: Is it having a server in the first place
[18:44] <cowrix> how?
[18:44] <DasEi> !lucid | peleg
[18:44] <cowrix> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x762fb085     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1               1           1         992+  42  SFS Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2   *           1          26      203776   42  SFS Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda3             
[18:44] <nobimint> Jermuk: give me your ip address
[18:45] <Jermuk> mom
[18:45] <MichRT> coz
[18:45] <Jermuk> 83.133.122.49
[18:45] <nobimint> ?
[18:45] <nobimint> Hey!
[18:45] <tiredbones> I'm trying to update my system; I'm getting  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.37 80]. I tried pinging the ip but, no response. Is the server down?
[18:45] <magn3ts> cowrix, uh, your partition table looks a little... jankity
[18:45] <genii> peleg: LTS are on 2 year cycles, so 8.04 10.04 12.04  etc
[18:45] <Jermuk> ip of server, or my ip ?
[18:45] <nobimint> Jermuk: Never give it in public
[18:45] <MichRT> coz_, i did, but AcetoneISO is the only thing, and it can't burn!
[18:45] <magn3ts> cowrix, also, is that all of it?
[18:45] <nobimint> Jermuk: pm please
[18:45] <Jermuk> i dont tell you password
[18:45] <cowrix> umm
[18:45] <Jermuk> ok
[18:45] <coz_> MichRT,  ooo   mmm ok then try that first link I gave you and let me know if it works out ok
[18:45] <MichRT> coz_, i did, but AcetoneISO is the only thing, and it can't burn!
[18:46] <cowrix> I  might be able to get on my other computer
[18:46] <cowrix> it has an irc
[18:46] <cowrix> might be easier?
[18:46] <cowrix> to talk
[18:46] <MichRT> coz_ trying now. so far so good
[18:46] <coz_> MichRT,  cool
[18:46] <magn3ts> cowrix, if you want, sure
[18:47] <P-ROD68> Hello can anybody help out with permanently connecting to a windows share. I got it to connect but my share folder is only showing 1 share and not the others and I have more than one share.
[18:47] <cowrix> ok
[18:47] <peleg> genii, sorry, I have found an answer: 10.04 ...
[18:47] <ThePrick> Ubuntu sucks hard cock
[18:48] <ThePrick> It does
[18:48] <sk33to84> then dont use it :P
[18:48] <peleg> genii, thanks (irc LAG)
[18:48] <PeskyJ> oh this is interesting, I just found that putting in a SD card into the card reader works and it mounts, but putting in an XD card doesn't - I thought there was no difference as far as the OS was concerned and it would just be seen as a mass storage device either way?
[18:49] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error:               sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[18:49] <IlovePussy> Fuck ubuntu
[18:49] <IlovePussy> it sucks cock
[18:49] <sk33to84> lol
[18:49] <sk33to84> omg
[18:50] <nobimint> Omg!
[18:50] <chris__> OMG
[18:50] <chris__> i need a SUBWAY
[18:50] <chris__> mmmmmmmM
[18:50] <jpds> chris__: Find one.
[18:50] <arand> ignore it please.
[18:50] <chris__> lol
[18:50] <zeratul100>  zx
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> omg | sk33to84 nobimint chris_
[18:50] <chris__> jpds,  i have one round the corner from me mate.
[18:51] <ZykoticK9> !omg | sk33to84 nobimint chris_
[18:51] <TruthLiker> Hello, I'm trying to use gnokii, got the config set to bluetooth, it connects to pone then after a while it gives: Couldn't open FBUS device: Input/output error
[18:51] <Bisu[Shield]> i deleted the bottom panel and now im trying to replace it, what launcher or whatever is responsible for all the windows open?
[18:52] <rww> Bisu[Shield]: Right-click the panel -> Add to Panel -> select Window List -> Press Add.
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> Bisu[Shield], "Workspace Switcher" ?
[18:53] <magn3ts> Why does gparted show my swap as "unknown" after formatting it with linux-swap?
[18:53] <hamzaatova1> why does search engines are always restored????????
[18:53] <magn3ts> gparted is such garbage
[18:53] <Cowrix1> hello
[18:53] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error:               sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[18:53] <DasEi> magn3ts: done from live or least swapoff and then unmounted ?
[18:53] <genii> magn3ts: Possibly because partition type is different than 82
[18:54] <magn3ts> DasEi, I swapoff'd then resized, then formatted to linux swap
[18:55] <Bisu[Shield]> did not awindows switcher is not it
[18:55] <magn3ts> genii, yikes. sudo fdisk -l doesn't even list the partition >_>
[18:55] <DasEi> magn3ts: unmouted, as else not possible and hit apply afterwards, so was formated ?
[18:55] <demonspork> hey, is there anywhere we can yell at people who are PMing advertisements?
[18:55] <dgd> How do you autoinstall Ubuntu?
[18:55] <Cowrix1> hello Magn3ts
[18:55] <nobimint> Ubuntu to windows is windows question
[18:55] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error:               sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[18:55] <genii> demonspork: Report them in #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[18:55] <ZykoticK9> nobimint, this page has some specific SOX parameters that "might" help - i've never heard of RAW files or carwhisperer before http://www.ethicalhacker.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,54/topic,2640.msg13196/topicseen,1/ hope it helps, best of luck
[18:56] <magn3ts> DasEi, I unmounted/swapoff'd it as I should have
[18:56] <magn3ts> genii, actually its not showing sda5 or sda6 which is my data partition
[18:56] <DasEi> demonspork: put om ignore and set usermode  on blocking pm from unregistered nick
[18:56] <DasEi> magn3ts: and applied changes ?
[18:56] <magn3ts> DasEi, yes
[18:57] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, do you happen to know how to "blocking pm from unregistered nicks" in xchat?
[18:57] <magn3ts> This is not good. No matter what I format it to it comes back as "unknown"
[18:57] <DasEi> ZykoticK9: second, lookin up, did it a wekk ago or so
[18:57] <DasEi> week*
[18:58] <Cowrix1> magn3ts: Are you there?
[18:58] <frostburn> anyone know of a windowmanager/theme that emulates the non existent borders of macosx?
[18:58] <om26er> !info empathy-megaphone
[18:58] <MichRT> coz_ It's working like a charm!
[18:58] <magn3ts> Cowrix1, I'm having my own partition table crisis right now. Lurk in here for a bit and someone will help you. If no one does Ill come back and help
[18:58] <coz_> MichRT,  excellent :)
[18:59] <Cowrix1> Oh ok
[18:59] <meerkat> adam malysz win ??
[18:59] <Cowrix1> I will re ask
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, thanks i think i found it - now just have to figure out how to set +R for my mode.  Thanks for informing me that was possible!
[18:59] <Cowrix1> Can someone help my ubuntu wont let me get into windows 7
[19:00] <DasEi> ZykoticK9: that was it
[19:00] <Cowrix1> can anyone help?
[19:01] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a substitute mac launcher i can use as opposed to avant
[19:01] <Bisu[Shield]> on my ubuntu box
[19:01] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],   cairo dock
[19:01] <Bisu[Shield]> by the way I cannot enable desktop effects
[19:02] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  which video card do you have?
[19:02] <Bisu[Shield]> not sure, how do i determine that
[19:02] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  if not sure  open a terminal     lspci | grep -i vga
[19:02] <Trek> Bisu[Shield], enablinig desktop effects relates to your graphics card, as such we need to know the type
[19:02] <dgd> Bisu[Shield]: how about Docky (from Gnome Do)
[19:03] <Bisu[Shield]> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[19:03] <coz_> Bisu[Shield], ooo I am not familiar with at atll
[19:03] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  let me check that one hold on
[19:03] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], thats a VirtualBox graphics card, it means that he's running in a virtual environment
[19:04] <Bisu[Shield]> yes
[19:04] <coz_> Trek,  ah
[19:04] <Bisu[Shield]> from windows
[19:04] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], as such, Bisu is using wubi?
[19:04] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], or something else?
[19:04] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], or just virtualboxA?
[19:04] <DasEi> ZykoticK9: /mode ZykoticK9 +R    I think, or change +R and Nick
[19:04] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],   ok then I doubt you will get destop effects
[19:04] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], or just virtualbox* ?
[19:04] <Cowrix1> I really need help guys. can anyone help me?
[19:04] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], yeah, you won't get desktop effects in VBox
[19:04] <Bisu[Shield]> so is there any launcher that does not need visual effects?
[19:05] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  unless ubuntu is installed onto the harddrive  you wont get desktop effects
[19:05] <airtonix> Cowrix1, unfortunatly my psychic powers are not workign today, you'll need to re-iterate the question
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, i just opened #xchat to ask there :), I hadn't figured it out yet.  Thanks again.
[19:05] <xTEMPLARx> Cowrix1: when you say ubuntu won't let you get into win7, can you be more descriptive?  If you have already been descriptive, tell me and I'll scroll back up
[19:05] <Trek> coz_, Bisu[Shield], what coz_ said is true, you won't ever get graphics effects in wubi or a virtual environment
[19:05] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  well any of the docks should work but  cairo dock is going to need  a compositor
[19:06] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],   in fact I believe all of the docks are going to require a compositor running  you may be able to enable  metacity compositor
[19:06] <Bisu[Shield]> oh
[19:07] <Bisu[Shield]> how do i do that
[19:07] <henwood> list
[19:07] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  open gconf-editor   maneauver  to /apps/metacity/general   and enable compositor from there I believe let me check to be sure
[19:07] <KaffeeJunky123> is anyone here an expert on keyboard configuration stuff?
[19:07] <fastPutty> i tried to auto update svn with crontab and here what i add in the crontab: * * * * * root svn update /var/www/   and it doesnt seem like it works.. osmoene help me
[19:08] <Balthasar1> Ok, I have a problem installing ubuntu fromn a flashdrive on my eeepc 901.... anyone up for help? But I have to warn you, I am very new to the whole thing.
[19:08] <MichRT> coz_ Thanks a Million! Worked like magic! Burning the image now!
[19:08] <coz_> Bisu[Shield],  yes that is correct  just look for   compositing_manger and put a check mark in the box
[19:08] <coz_> MichRT,  very cool guy :)
[19:09] <Balthasar1> anyone up for helping me?
[19:10] <coz_> Balthasar1,  best thing to do is just ask or state the problem
[19:10] <Licious> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu. Had it about half an hour, just wondering if there's any really useful sites that I can read.
[19:10] <coz_> Balthasar1,  if anyone can help they will
[19:10] <Licious> Mainly on how to install wine.
[19:10] <coz_> Licious,  sudo apt-get install wine
[19:11] <coz_> Licious,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[19:11] <Balthasar1> okay, I have downloaded the netbook remix, formatted a stick, installed the netbook remix on the stick, put it into my eeepc, and nothing.
[19:11] <Balthasar1> no booting, nothing
[19:11] <Balthasar1> if I klick on install ubuntu, it just goes blank.
[19:12] <airtonix> Balthasar1, you need to edit the boot parameters
[19:12] <Licious> That's the problem I'm having Coz, I don't really understand any of the open sourcing on Ubuntu.
[19:12] <coz_> Balthasar1,  are you trying to install from the virtual?
[19:12] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:12] <Balthasar1> okay, how do I do that?
[19:12] <Licious> Needed an OS that's free because of my laptop had a fake XP.
[19:12] <airtonix> coz_, if you read it carefully you'll see the words : stick & eeepc
[19:13] <przemek_> connct #ubuntu-pl
[19:13] <coz_> Licious,  oh  so you have already install ubuntu?
[19:13] <Licious> Yeah I've installed Ubuntu.
[19:13] <airtonix> Balthasar1, its documented on ubuntuforums
[19:13] <Licious> And got rid of my other OS completely.
[19:13] <Balthasar1> can you give me a link?
[19:13] <magn3ts> Anyone got any alternatives to gparted they want to suggest?
[19:14] <coz_> need to break here ...be back a bit later
[19:14] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:14] <web5|org|ua> [off-top] help to understand this (new season march 21, "sundays 10/9c") !
[19:14] <airtonix> Balthasar1, ubuntuforums.org
[19:14] <ARishi> How do I know what packages are associated with a ppa? I have ppa's in the software sources list which I can't figure out what is it for.
[19:14] <blocky> how do i delete all .cpp files from a folder and all subfolders
[19:14] <airtonix> Balthasar1, http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ubuntu+forums+eeepc+netbook+remix+blank+screen&spell=1
[19:15] <packetcase>  How can I view the functions of a .so file?
[19:15] <zaibatsu> anyone know what the picture in this background is called? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UNR_9.10.png
[19:16] <seanbrystone> isnt that Mandriva?
[19:16] <magn3ts> UNR = Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[19:17] <llutz> blocky: find path/ -type f -iname *.cpp -exec  rm {} \;
[19:17] <arand> magn3ts: gparted if fairly ubiquitous as far as gui goes, otherwise there's always a bunch of cli utilities.
[19:17] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:18] <airtonix> seanbrystone, i didn't know mandriva used the same logo as ubuntu
[19:18] <magn3ts> arand, gparted is totally wrecking my GPT right now. :/
[19:18] <seanbrystone> didnt see the logo
[19:20] <Balthasar1> okay, during the try out phase of the stick, it told me can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[19:20] <Balthasar1> what now?
[19:20] <PsychoMari0> what can i turn off in ubuntu netbook remix to save my battery? i have a dell mini 10v
[19:21] <Lord-Readman> Chris you in here? http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9
[19:21] <Lord-Readman> hives, its doing quite well http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23732/
[19:21] <Giant81> anyone know of a good GUI config file manager for conky?
[19:22] <og01> It seems that with most games that i try to run the audio wont work correctly. It willwork of for 30 seconds and then go jumppy the nstop altogether, then, after i quit the process will zombie. one game (supertux) showed this error just before zombie. Fatal: Unexpected exception: Couldn't unqueu audio buffer: Invalid Value - so it seems i have a problem with my sound. i looked in dmesg and found nothing. any ideas?
[19:22] <Praetor> I am having a helluva time keeping my audio drivers initialized on karmic. I have an HP TX1200 TabPC with Nvidia GO6150 video and I think the chipset is a 430m .
[19:22] <og01> i think firefox audio also seems to go funny, by xbmc is fine.
[19:22] <feed_me_seymour> I have my DD-WRT router sending logs via syslogd to a remote host running Ubuntu 8.04 Server, however on the remote host, those messages are being logged three places: user.log, syslog and messages.  Is there any way to either stop logging those messages to two of those places, or to send ALL logs to something like ddwrt-server.log on the remote host?
[19:22] <airtonix> Psychoholic, in my opinion use openbox instead. gnome is a resource hog.
[19:23] <Giant81> the sound on my Dell 1745 shows everything I can find to be happy and good, but no sound
[19:23] <Flare-Laptop> Giant81: Drivers?
[19:23] <Giant81> Flare-Laptop: looks good
[19:23] <Giant81> from what I can tell
[19:23] <Praetor> after every update i have to deactivate then reactivate the drivers for nvidia.... and then sometimes just from using the pc it will happen.. on Jaunty I never had this prob before
[19:24] <Giant81> let me pastebin an lspci and lsmod
[19:24] <PsychoMari0> airtonix: if that was aimed at me...? i thought in openbox you couldnt have a notification bar for my wireless and stuff?
[19:24] <Balthasar1> Okay, I have the following problem: I have the ubuntu netbook remix on the stick, my eee-pc 901 is not that exotic, but now that I have followed the instruction to first try it out, it stopped right square, and told me can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow. what does that mean?
[19:24] <airtonix> PsychoMari0, you can with tint2
[19:25] <Flare-Laptop> Balthasar1: /cow?
[19:25] <Balthasar1> I was confsed too.
[19:25] <Giant81> Http://www.pastebin.com/d7c9544e5
[19:25] <Balthasar1> I mean, windows installation was much easier.
[19:25] <PsychoMari0> airtonix: thanks, ill look into that...
[19:26] <zippytech> i am installing a new hard drive on unbuntu and using gparted to it up but i get an error partition cannot have a length of -1 sectors
[19:26] <Giant81> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[19:26] <zippytech> any ideas?
[19:26] <Giant81> that is my sound device
[19:26] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations
[19:26] <Pretto> how to enable fingerprint reader on login window?
[19:26] <Flare-Laptop> Giant81: Yeah, I see, but the thing is you've got 2 audio devices
[19:26] <Fenix|work> Karmic isn't displaying the full resolution for my monitor... how can I a) detect it and b) add it?
[19:27] <Flare-Laptop> Fenix|work: Its not your monitor, its your graphics card.
[19:27] <Giant81> Flare-Laptop: HDMI output, I've even disabled that device in the sound settings and I still don't get audio
[19:27] <Lord-Readman> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23732/
[19:27]  * airtonix lols
[19:27] <Fenix|work> Flare-Laptop, ok, I have an ATI Radeon chip
[19:27] <Praetor> Pretto: install fprint demo using Synaptic
[19:27] <Fenix|work> and I'm defaulted at 1024x768
[19:27] <abhifx> hi there, can anyone tell me that wubi is now included in lucid's daily build?
[19:27] <Giant81> Flare-Laptop: nm... I don't see the intel there anymore
[19:27] <Pretto> Praetor: just this?
[19:27] <Flare-Laptop> Giant81: Something weird, I mean I've never heard of ATI being a audio device.
[19:27] <seanbrystone> !lucid | abhifx
[19:28] <Flare-Laptop> Fenix|work: yeah same here, and mine goes up to 1280 x 1024
[19:28] <Praetor> Pretto: yeah I believe it will also install all dependencies if needed
[19:28] <SpielMitFeuer> all work and no wifi is making me a dull boy
[19:28] <Fenix|work> Hardware Drivers doesn't find the ATI fglrx driver
[19:29] <Flare-Laptop> !fglrx | Fenix|work
[19:29] <Fenix|work> Flare-Laptop, am already there :)
[19:29] <ng0n> hi ya testing.
[19:29] <Pretto> Praetor: do i need pam_fprint too?
[19:29] <ng0n> we c u ok.
[19:30] <Praetor> not sure
[19:30] <Flare-Laptop> !who | Praetor
[19:30] <Praetor> lemme see how i have mine setup
[19:31] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Flare-Laptop, ati makes soundcards, aka audio devices :)
[19:31] <Giant81> Flare-Laptop: any pointer to a page on reinstalling that intel card?
[19:31] <Flare-Laptop> BluesKaj-Laptop: Never heard of them doing that tho
[19:31] <Praetor> !tab Pretto: just a sec
[19:31] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:31] <Praetor> lol
[19:31] <frostburn> Anyone know of a windowmanager/theme that emulates the non existent borders of macosx?
[19:31] <Flare-Laptop> Giant81: um not that I can think of
[19:31] <Giant81> frostburn: try mac4lin
[19:32] <Pretto> Praetor: ok
[19:32] <airtonix> frostburn, you mean metacity, the default window manager in gnome ? yes i do :)
[19:32] <frostburn> airtonix, yeah, i've used beryl before, but it didn't quite do the trick
[19:32] <git__> anyone know where the resume scripts reside?
[19:32] <nobimint> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:32] <airtonix> frostburn, i didnt say anything about beryl
[19:33] <frostburn> airtonix, right, im just saying that i've tried other window managers and none of them seem to fit the bill
[19:33] <SpielMitFeuer> id really like lxde if i could get the stinkin wifi to work
[19:33] <og01> apps that use audio crash on me (process become zombified) when i quit. some apps have really jittery sound, some apps work fine, no errors in dmesg and i duno where to look. please help - I dont want to have to re-install
[19:33] <Praetor> Pretto: type in fprint into the search box of Synaptic and make sure all boxes are Marked for Installation
[19:33] <airtonix> frostburn, it doesnt matter which window manager you use... border-width is controlled by the  theme not the manager
[19:34] <KaffeeJunky123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8851885#post8851885
[19:34] <airtonix> frostburn, also : beryl is not a window manager :)
[19:34] <KaffeeJunky123> If anyone has an idea on my problem please pm me
[19:34] <genii> !beryl
[19:34] <frostburn> its a decrorator
[19:34] <Flare-Laptop> airtonix: yes it is, but its old, very old.
[19:34] <KaffeeJunky123> the description is in this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8851885#post8851885
[19:34] <racerd> anyone play team fortress 2?
[19:34] <Flare-Laptop> !offtopic | racerd
[19:34] <airtonix> frostburn, Flare-Laptop no. i think you'll actually find its purpose is very specific : compositing
[19:34] <Praetor> Pretto: once those are installed then run Update Manager in System menu to make sure you get any needed updates
[19:35] <damjanzg> I understand basic of ssh -X forwarding ,but one thing I cant get to my head. When I X forward e.g. firefox, then it is executed on the host machine, and a screen can be seen on client machine. My question is, is it possible to get same thing with video, ?
[19:35] <frostburn> Giant81, that looks pretty cool, i might try it out
[19:35] <airtonix> frostburn, Flare-Laptop the actual window manager is either emerald, or gnome-window-decorator
[19:35] <shadowhywind> how can one find what the partition type (ext3/ext4) from the console?
[19:35] <shahzad> cole
[19:36] <frostburn> damjanzg, yeah, i've done it before, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't  try it out and see
[19:36] <shahzad> why
[19:36] <llutz> damjanzg: try video option x11
[19:36] <frostburn> shadowhywind, $mount
[19:37] <acanther> OMFG I HAVE NO QUESTIONS :D
[19:37] <llutz> damjanzg: vlc -V x11, mplayer -vo x11 etc
[19:37] <Praetor> COOL....WE HAVE NO ANSWERS !!!!!
[19:37] <shadowhywind> frostburn: i don't understand, could you explain that a bit more?
[19:37] <acanther> YEAH
[19:37] <Flare-Laptop> !caps | acanther
[19:37] <Praetor> lol
[19:38] <langtree> How do I submit a bug to the weather/date/time applet that comes by default with the latest stable Ubuntu ?
[19:38] <Flare-Laptop> !lol | Praetor
[19:38] <patoche> Hi, I'm looking for help on installing an ACER travelmate laptop
[19:38] <frostburn> shadowhywind, type mount          and it will say what kind of file system is mounted where and what kind of partitioning it uses...
[19:39] <mguy> patoche: Where are you getting stuck?
[19:39] <damjanzg> :llutz will that command run mplaxer or vlc on host machine and the output will be seen on client?
[19:39] <llutz> damjanzg: afaik yes
[19:39] <blakkheim> patoche: what's wrong?
[19:39] <shadowhywind> frostburn: sweet thanks
[19:39] <chris__> mm nice subway
[19:40] <chris__> 6" tuna roll toasted with cheese
[19:40] <blakkheim> !ot | chris__
[19:40] <chris__> fresh roll
[19:40] <chris__> ok
[19:40] <Flare183> !enter | chris__
[19:41] <chris__> lol family rules
[19:41] <enjoytheday> I'm new to ubuntu and familia with linux
[19:41] <enjoytheday> I just intalled ubuntu, how do we setup root access?
[19:41] <nmvictor`> How do i mount a ssh filesytem using sshfs?
[19:41] <patoche> It seems that on boot it stars on a virtual second screen. I manage to start on live CD using option vga=0 but how can I set the normal boot ?
[19:41] <feed_me_seymour> I have my DD-WRT router sending logs via syslogd to a remote host running Ubuntu 8.04 Server, however on the remote host, those messages are being logged three places: user.log, syslog and messages.  Is there any way to either stop logging those messages to two of those places, or to send ALL logs to something like ddwrt-server.log on the remote host?
[19:41] <frostburn> !root| enjoytheday
[19:41] <DasEi> !sudo | enjoytheday
[19:41] <blakkheim> enjoytheday: sudo passwd root (but someone here will tell you not to and to just use sudo)
[19:41] <llutz> nmvictor`: sshfs user@host mount/point
[19:42] <blakkheim> nmvictor`: sshfs is great
[19:42] <genii> enjoytheday: Keep in mind we cannot give support for a system that you are running in root
[19:42] <nmvictor`> blakkheim: how do i use it?
[19:42] <aaron11> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:42] <blakkheim> nmvictor`: someone already answered you
[19:42] <llutz> nmvictor`: sshfs user@host:/ mount/point
[19:43] <lantizia> GUI for managing MetaModes?
[19:44] <SpielMitFeuer> oh.. oh.. now i get wifi working.. now im angry that it was so simple
[19:44] <trueno> hola
[19:44] <SpielMitFeuer> all i had to do was change the interface to eth1.. i spent like four hours working on this
[19:44] <No-Body> hahah SpielMitFeuer
[19:44] <Flare183> !es | trueno
[19:44] <trueno> soy trueno
[19:44] <nmvictor> llutz: says connection reset by peer
[19:44] <trueno> payo
[19:44] <No-Body> SpielMitFeuer,  pc's and the internet rule
[19:44] <No-Body> do you agree
[19:44] <No-Body> :)
[19:45] <Flare183> !enter | No-Body
[19:45] <No-Body> What would you do without the internet
[19:45] <aaron11> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:45] <SpielMitFeuer> no-body.. im also upgrading my netbook, putting a better WLAN card in
[19:45] <trueno> hello
[19:45] <Praetor> spank the monkey
[19:45] <trueno> hello
[19:45] <No-Body> nice
[19:45] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[19:45] <git__> which gets loaded up first 000program or 00program ?
[19:45] <nmvictor> llutz: what could be the reason?
[19:45] <trueno> hola
[19:46] <trueno> ablo idioma   ESPAÑOL
[19:46] <No-Body> SpielMitFeuer,  i just got myself a used gfx card on ebay for £31 512 GDDR3 and it looks nice
[19:46] <aaron11> trueno Whats the question
[19:46] <Flare183> !english | trueno
[19:46] <aaron11> !espanol| trueno
[19:46] <trueno> no
[19:46] <llutz> nmvictor: ssh misconfigured, wrong port,...
[19:47] <SpielMitFeuer> i have an integrated GPU that can share up to 1gb of DDR
[19:47] <SpielMitFeuer> i can play any game i want without lag
[19:47] <No-Body> lol
[19:47] <No-Body> i want a 1 gig one
[19:47] <No-Body> but i don't play games as much
[19:47] <trueno> gracias ubottu
[19:47] <nmvictor> llutz: that could be, i just installed it a while ago, mind taking me through the basics of configuring it?
[19:48] <aaron11> How do I play my .raw files that I used in carwhisperer? I tried using the sox comands but its giving me some stupid error: sox FAIL formats: bad input format for file `out.raw': sampling rate was not specified
[19:48] <Myrtti> No-Body: do you have ubuntu support related question? if not, please continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:48] <No-Body> 512ddr is still good
[19:48] <llutz> nmvictor: use your googlefoo to find some tuts
[19:48] <Myrtti> !repeat | aaron11
[19:48] <KaffeeJunky123> can anyone help me with my keyboard problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8851885#post8851885
[19:48] <llutz> nmvictor: man sshd_config as a start
[19:48] <No-Body> why is everyone so ignor here
[19:48] <trueno> no english
[19:48] <nmvictor> llutz: thanks
[19:48] <No-Body> Myrtti,  im ok dude thanks
[19:48] <Flare183> !attitude | No-Body
[19:49] <No-Body> you lot have the attitude listen to you lot GOS
[19:49] <Praetor> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:51] <pedro__> alguien de venezuela
[19:52] <pedro__> q tal el ubuntu 9.10 ?
[19:52] <KaffeeJunky123> can anyone help me with my keyboard problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411121
[19:52] <feed_me_seymour> I have my DD-WRT router sending logs via syslogd to a remote host running Ubuntu 8.04 Server, however on the remote host, those messages are being logged three places: user.log, syslog and messages.  Is there any way to either stop logging those messages to two of those places, or to send ALL logs to something like ddwrt-server.log on the remote host?
[19:53] <llutz> feed_me_seymour: use something like syslog-ng to do
[19:54] <nmvictor> does anyone here know how i could unlock my GSM m in ubuntu or any linux distro?
[19:54] <nmvictor> *modem ^
[19:58] <Praetor> unlock your gsm?
[19:59] <Praetor> you mean get it to work in linux? or like unlocking hack?
[19:59] <llutz> nmvictor: ask your mobile-provider for unlock-codes
[19:59] <anomoly> hello all. is the gparted live cd the easiest way to resize the windows partition of a dual booted win/ubuntu?
[19:59] <KaffeeJunky123> I guess he's talking about his iphone, that's the only phone I know that blocks the mode functionality via usb
[20:00] <KaffeeJunky123> *modem
[20:00] <OerHeks> anomoly that depends.. xp, vista or win7 ?
[20:00] <anomoly> xp
[20:00] <OerHeks> vista and win7 can decrease self the partition *reconmended
[20:00] <Praetor> anomoly: I use it for xp partitions
[20:00] <OerHeks> then yess, use gparted
[20:01] <anomoly> ok, thanks OerHeks and Praetor
[20:01] <alexxio_> i can't find a valid gparted alternative...have you any software i can use?
[20:01] <Praetor> anomoly: gparted does the trick but you have to be patient with it cuz it takes a long time to finish depending on if you are moving large amounts of data during the process
[20:02] <nmvictor> KaffeeJunky123: i really meant my modem, my GSM modem from Huwaei with wich i use to connect with my mobile provider as my ISP, any ideas on how i could unlock it so that i could use any mobile provider with it?
[20:02] <KaffeeJunky123> can anyone help me with my keyboard problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411121 detailed description is in this post
[20:02] <anomoly> Praetor most of my data is on the Ubuntu side so I don't think there should be much/any more than the OS data
[20:03] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor: so you have a gsm modem with a simlock?
[20:03] <nmvictor> KaffeeJunky123: yea, exactly
[20:03] <kilrae> does anybody have karmic working with dual screens and compiz? if so, what graphics card are you using?
[20:03] <llutz> nmvictor: ask your mobile-provider for unlock-codes, should be free after end of "sponsored period"
[20:03] <Praetor> anomoly: cool ... gparted is 1 of my top favs
[20:03] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor: ask your provider, maybe they've an unlocking service, but they'll surely take money for it
[20:03] <feed_me_seymour> kilrae: I'm running Karmic with an nvidia 8600GT and a 15" LCD + 17" LCD
[20:04] <InvaderZim> I have a friend whose suspend (sleep) feature doesnt work on a notebook. Karmic 9.10. When you turn on again, it powers on but the screen gets blank
[20:04] <feed_me_seymour> kilrae: I'm running separate xserver instances, however, since the LCDs are of different sizes.
[20:04] <kilrae> i'm getting the impression that nvidia is the way to go this year
[20:04] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor: but I don't know anything about breaking simlocks
[20:05] <neko> hola!
[20:05] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor: maybe you can find something on google with the exact name of your gsm modem
[20:05] <neko> anybody speak spanish?
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> !es > neko
[20:06] <neko> one question
[20:06] <KaffeeJunky123> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332 does anyone have an idea how to solve this keyboard issue? if so please pm me
[20:06] <neko> what is the best swf player plugin for mozilla?
[20:06] <RadsRad> Hi, i want graphics driver for my Asrock  motherboard P4M890
[20:06] <erUSUL> neko: adobe's
[20:07] <KaffeeJunky123> neko: all swf plugins are a little bit buggy, but the best is adobe's probably
[20:07] <RadsRad> Hi, i want graphics driver for my Asrock  motherboard P4M890, Help !!
[20:07] <blakkheim> !repeat | RadsRad
[20:08] <KaffeeJunky123> RadsRad: does it have an onboard graphic chip?
[20:08] <nmvictor`> KaffeeJunky123: sorry, the damn GSM modem disconnects at its will, did you have any ideas?
[20:08] <Lord-Readman> Chris you in here? http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9
[20:08] <scivi> VIA® UniChrome Pro 3D/2D Graphics use that
[20:08] <RadsRad> it is integrated 64 Mo
[20:09] <scivi> sorry uses that
[20:09] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor`: nothing besides using google and asking your isp
[20:09] <RadsRad> Integrated VIA® UniChrome Pro 3D/2D Graphics
[20:09] <neko> erusul:i have adobe swf player. When i want to watch any video from youtube, play button of the player doesnt run correctly (it doesnt stop the video!)
[20:09] <nmvictor`> what was the command to reclaim you nick from another person/session?
[20:09] <phil_fl> RadsRad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[20:09] <Lemontree84> Morning! I got a question about 3d effects on an older graphic card, on my second pc, i am using an "ati rv200 QW (radeon 7500)", using the open radeon driver, like said in the wiki, but the Desktops effects "searching for driver" and dont allow me to activate desktop effects
[20:10] <erUSUL> neko: is a known bug in karmic. do you have compiz enabled?
[20:10] <kostkon> nmvictor`, use the "ghost" cmd
[20:10] <erUSUL> nmvictor`: /msg NickServ ghost nick
[20:10] <neko> erUSUL:no
[20:10] <RadsRad> j'ai suivi le tuto mais il n'a pas donner de résultat
[20:10] <neko> erUSUL: i had it installed before, but i remove it recently
[20:10] <RadsRad> I followed the tutorial but did not give results
[20:11] <Praetor> Lemontree84: you need to install yur vid drivers first
[20:11] <home> elo kutasy
[20:11] <home> kminicie polski?
[20:11] <ZykoticK9> neko, does any clicking in flash work?  are you on 64bit?
[20:11] <erUSUL> neko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407
[20:11] <nmvictor`> KaffeeJunky123: i tried google to know avial but i'll keep trying anyway, asking my ISP is no option, its like reporting yourself to some authority, i mean sometimes its considered illegal since they put some effort locking it up.
[20:12] <nmvictor`> erUSUL: thanks
[20:12] <RadsRad> that  there is another tutorial?
[20:12] <home> kutasy, rozumiecie po polsku?
[20:12] <Lemontree84> Praetor: hmm,  the fglrx driver ? o.O, i thotught the opne driver from karmic 9.10 is the ati grafix driver
[20:12] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor`: well, some provide a legal unlocking service for money in germany
[20:12] <Myrtti> !pl | home
[20:12] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor`: at least they do it for mobilephones
[20:12] <home> ok spoko
[20:12] <home> berde szprechal po angielsku
[20:12] <phil_fl> RadsRad: you could check http://www.openchrome.org/trac/wiki/TOC
[20:13] <neko> ZykoticK9: No. Any click work
[20:13] <KaffeeJunky123> nmvictor`: unlocking without permission is illegal ofcourse
[20:13] <neko> erUSUL: im going to see the bug. Thanks!!
[20:13] <alexxio_> i can't find a valid gparted alternative...do you know any similar (with gui) software i can use?
[20:13] <phil_fl> alexxio_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_partitioning_software
[20:13] <tim_> what a film
[20:14] <tim_> i recommend watching stealth
[20:14] <RadsRad> Thank you, I'll warn you tested and new:)
[20:14] <neko> erUSUL: and yes, im on 64 bits
[20:14] <guntbert> !ot | tim_
[20:14] <KaffeeJunky123> can anyone help me with my keaboard problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411121
[20:14] <home> du ju am kutasy?
[20:14] <home> du ju am kutasy?
[20:14] <home> du ju am kutasy?
[20:14] <home> du ju am kutasy?
[20:14] <home> du ju am kutasy?
[20:14] <FloodBot1> home: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <tim_> !ot | guntbert
[20:15] <tuksiarz> join #poland
[20:15] <home> yes, gites
[20:15] <guntbert> tim_: I beg your pardon?
[20:15] <home> join  #bimbrownia.org
[20:15] <tim_> i beg of ours
[20:15] <blck> good evening. How can I repair corrupt ntfs sektors?
[20:16] <nmvictor> anyone using erc on emacs, isnt their a way to enable history so that i could easilly access my typed messages with the  UP an DOWN arrow keys, like is the case with irssi?
[20:16] <eliteSchaf> blck, have you tried fsck.vfat?
[20:16] <Myrtti> eliteSchaf: er, it's not a fat system
[20:17] <Gaudi> hello guys
[20:17] <tuksiarz> hi
[20:17] <home> elo(dla anglikow "Helloo") kutasy (dla anglukuw "penis")
[20:17] <blck> Myrtti: Thought about fschk but this is only working for ext system or?
[20:17] <Praetor> Lemontree84: not sure..... open Hardware Drivers and select the video driver that is recommended then click on activate and reboot and it should all be good
[20:17] <Gaudi> I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my computer and I have the 9.10 CD, how can I update it without having to reinstall the whole linux?
[20:17] <blakkheim> Gaudi: you could do that without the cd
[20:18] <hiexpo> hello all
[20:18] <eliteSchaf> blck, there is also a fsck for vfat, but i think it doesnt work for ntfs
[20:18] <kirkmoreno> Question: can mulitple people write to a networked hardrive? If one person is writing to it.. does it prevent someone else from being able to save to that drive?
[20:18] <blck> eliteSchaf: Any other prgramm I could use?
[20:18] <Gaudi> blakkheim: I know but I have the cd now and I don't want to download everything again
[20:18] <KaffeeJunky123> updateing isn't a good idea, it almost always breaks something
[20:18] <blakkheim> Gaudi: unless it's the alternate cd, i don't think you can just upgrade from the cd
[20:18] <ignacio> capulllo
[20:18] <blakkheim> Gaudi: so you might HAVE to download the updates
[20:18] <ignacio> que os den por culo
[20:18] <Myrtti> blck: I'd personally try tools provided in Windows or windows software. NTFS doesn't have too many linux tools yet
[20:18] <ignacio> a todos
[20:19] <tuksiarz> only english please
[20:19] <genii> !es | ignacio
[20:19] <guntbert> KaffeeJunky123: that is simply not true
[20:19] <ignacio> hijos de puto
[20:19] <Lemontree84> Praetor: thx for the answer, but the Harder-drivers window is empty
[20:19] <erUSUL> Myrtti: kick ignacio
[20:20] <Praetor> Lemontree84: oohhhhhh  lol... you have that problem !!!!!
[20:20] <KaffeeJunky123> guntbert: well, I can only speak about my expirience with ubuntu, and the distribution update did never work flawless
[20:20] <Lemontree84> Praetor : huh ?, "THAT PROPLEM" ?
[20:20] <the_fronny> All: I've just done a fresh re-install of ltsp-server-standalone, then ltsp-build-client, then ltsp-update-sshkeys, then ltsp-update-image and, still, the boot craps out with the NBD-server refusing connections. I only have one chroot this time. Is there a fix out there for this?
[20:20] <guntbert> KaffeeJunky123: then please don't generalize :-)
[20:20] <eliteSchaf> blck, ntfsfix would be also available, but if it doesnt help you have to boot windows twice or get a xp livecd
[20:20] <blakkheim> KaffeeJunky123: while i would personally recommend a reinstall over an upgrade (for the same reasons as you're saying) you can't tell someone it almost always breaks, because for some people it's fine
[20:21] <ignacio> sift
[20:21] <ignacio> hijos de puta
[20:21] <ignacio> capullo
[20:21] <gio> !list
[20:21] <RadsRad> but  now when I 'make' it gives me:
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[3]: *** [via_accel.lo] Erreur 1
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[3]: quittant le répertoire « /home/stodar/Bureau/openchrome/src »
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[2]: *** [all] Erreur 2
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /home/stodar/Bureau/openchrome/src »
[20:21] <FloodBot1> RadsRad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
[20:21] <RadsRad> make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/stodar/Bureau/openchrome »
[20:21] <seanbrystone> woah
[20:21] <blakkheim> madness
[20:22] <phil_fl> RadsRad: use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[20:22] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:23] <OerHeks> hi actionParsnip :-)
[20:23] <Myrtti> !register | if you can't talk right now, check this out
[20:23] <Praetor> Lemontree84: ATI used to be good at having linux drivers for some of their cards....
[20:23] <actionParsnip> Praetor: its getting better
[20:24] <Lemontree84> Praetor: so, i cant do anything for now ? :P
[20:24] <titan_ark> Myrtti, isnt this channel open to unregistered users?
[20:24] <actionParsnip> Lemontree84: not all versions of xorg are supported y te ati driver
[20:24] <actionParsnip> by the*
[20:24] <Myrtti> titan_ark: normally, unless someone floods their heds off, in which case the bots hit emergency mode and it's not
[20:25] <Praetor> Lemontree84: oh not at all.... google is your best friend.... but check out ati first.... find your model of card on their site and see what they have for it
[20:25] <titan_ark> Myrtti, ah okay!
[20:25] <Gaudi> how long do you keep ips banned?
[20:25] <seanbrystone> 30 years
[20:25] <seanbrystone> so behave
[20:25] <No-Body> lol
[20:25] <ubyserver> Haha
[20:25] <tuksiarz> :D
[20:25] <Praetor> Lemontree84: what vid card is it?
[20:26] <Gaudi> lol, a guy just got banned and unbanned by genii
[20:26] <titan_ark> whoa! what just happened over here?
[20:26] <Lemontree84> Praetor: is an older (my secon pc), ATI Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]
[20:26] <Gaudi> does FloodBots automatically kick in depending te situation?
[20:26] <guntbert> !ot | Gaudi
[20:27] <titan_ark> I was having a small issue. I keep getting a buzzing sound everytime i shut down.
[20:27] <KaffeeJunky123> can anyone help me with my keyboard prob? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411121
[20:27] <SpockVulcan> is there a way i can get a GE minicam pro to work on ubuntu 9.10
[20:27] <titan_ark> would anyone know how to solve it?
[20:28] <actionParsnip> SpockVulcan: run: lsusb   and websearch for the 8 character hex id
[20:28] <Gaudi> I just tried to install ubuntu 9.10 by a cd on a laptop and I got an error
[20:28] <actionParsnip> Gaudi: did you md5 test the iso? Did you run the cd verify?
[20:28] <Praetor> Lemontree84: I am fairly sure ati had the radeon 7000 series linux driver in the past... could be under archived or discontinued products on ati site
[20:28] <Gaudi> I haven't been able to fully upgrade to 9.10 it just keeps giving me errors, any ideas?
[20:29] <Gaudi> actionParsnip: Should I just select the check cd thingy?
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Gaudi: if you have 9.04 and want to upgrade using cd you will need the alternate cd
[20:29] <Praetor> Lemontree84: in fact I know those drivers exist ....
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Gaudi: yes or you have no chance of knowing the cd is good do you
[20:29] <Gaudi> actionParsnip: I do, I downloaded and installed 9.10 on a different cd
[20:29] <Gaudi> actionParsnip: or what do you mean by alterante cd?
[20:29] <Lemontree84> Praetor: ok, i take alook on ati side, now, but i am still confused, in all wikis, no matter which language said, deinstall fglrx stuff
[20:30] <SpockVulcan> actionParsnip: i dont see my webcam listed there
[20:30] <Lemontree84> Praetor: and use the open-source-ati driver, shipped with the karmic
[20:30] <actionParsnip> Gaudi: there is an alternate iso, if you have a jaunty install and want to upgrade offline you need the alternate iso, you cannot upgrade using the desktop iso
[20:30] <daviid> hola
[20:31] <actionParsnip> SpockVulcan: then try: dmesg | less    and read through to check what is detected and not
[20:31] <guntbert> !es | daviid
[20:31] <daviid> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:31] <Gaudi> actionParsnip: I burned the cd and run it from the beggining is that what you mean?
[20:31] <daviid> hello
[20:31] <ikonia> !es | daviid
[20:31] <Praetor> Lemontree84: dunno what fglrx is... but if you want to uninstall it then maybe try Synaptic and type in fglrx into search bar and see if it is installed or not
[20:31] <genii> Gaudi: We had 2 ops simultaneously place a ban on same user but with different parameters. I removed my ban but the other op's ban is still there
[20:31] <daviid> hello
[20:31] <actionParsnip> Gaudi: heck the iso you downloaded. you should have done this BEFORE buring, you also need to run the cd verifier to make sure the final cd is ok
[20:31] <Lord-Readman> hi
[20:31] <Lord-Readman> http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9
[20:32] <neko> last question community: from your point of view: what is the best htpc software? xbmc, elisa, other??
[20:32] <SpockVulcan> actionParsnip: i guess i dont know what im looking for there
[20:32] <guntbert> !best | neko
[20:32] <daviid> waths your name?
[20:32] <Glebiuskv> Hello
[20:32] <actionParsnip> SpockVulcan: its in fairly noral english or the most part
[20:32] <titan_ark> I was having a small issue. I keep getting a buzzing sound everytime i shut down.
[20:32] <Gaudi> actionParsnip: how do I check the iso I just downloaded?
[20:32] <actionParsnip> !md5 | Gaudi
[20:33] <Glebiuskv> How can i make a slide-show walpaper (like spase in 9.10)
[20:33] <Praetor> Lemontree84: you might want to go thru the ATI forums on their site and see if someone there had it working there
[20:33] <Lemontree84> Praetor: done already, fglrx, is the non free driver , if i am right AIGLX, is the free one, well, i am try to search on, for a solution, it MUST be possible, couse its supported for 3d, + it working with metacity effects, but compiz wont start, confusing me
[20:33] <Lemontree84> Praetor: cc, thx so far for your help, hopefully i gonna find something :)
[20:33] <Praetor> Lemontree84:  hhmmmm wqit a sec
[20:33] <guntbert> Gaudi: but for upgrading with the CD you need the "alternate CD" image not the "desktop CD" image
[20:34] <langtree> How do I keep the audio running when I switch to one of the terminals (like Ctrl-Alt-1) ?
[20:34] <Praetor> Lemontree84: did you try to enable the Extra Effects in Appearance?
[20:34] <Access_Denied> test
[20:34] <guntbert> Access_Denied: not here please
[20:35] <Access_Denied> oh sorry guntbert
[20:35] <Access_Denied> didn't think before post
[20:35] <Glebiuskv> How can i make a slide-show walpaper (like spase in 9.10)
[20:35] <SpockVulcan> can someone help me
[20:36] <Lemontree84> Praetor: i tryed to activate them, in System -> Config -> "erscheinungsbild" (sry dunno the english word), and
[20:36] <Lemontree84> Praetor: click on the Visual effects tab, and try to activate them
[20:36] <SpockVulcan> please??
[20:36] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: ask your question :)
[20:36] <Praetor> Lemontree84: ah ok....
[20:37] <SpockVulcan> is there a way i can get a GE mini cam PRO working on ubuntu 9.10
[20:37] <SpockVulcan> ubuntu already picks it up as a microphone jsut not a camera
[20:38] <SpockVulcan> ??
[20:38] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: here is a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670922
[20:39] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: If you don't understand comeback
[20:39] <Lemontree84> Praetor: but keep telling me"cant activate Desktop effects", hmm, one question, to understand, could this all about some bad configured xorg.conf ?
[20:39] <SpockVulcan> archboxman: thanks
[20:39] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: np
[20:39] <frostburn> what process updates /etc/motd?
[20:40] <nils-> hey guys, I was just wondering how well is the Intel GMA graphics integraded into the Core i3 CPUs supported?
[20:40] <SpockVulcan> archboxman: that didnt help
[20:40] <miriam> holaa
[20:40] <guntbert> nils-: is that an ubuntu support question?
[20:40] <archboxman> no did you follow the link on the page??
[20:40] <miriam> que taal?
[20:41] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: no did you follow the link on the page??
[20:41] <guntbert> !es | miriam
[20:41] <mneptok> miriam: Ingles solamente, pf.
[20:41] <Gaudi> miriam es como la decima vez que te dicen que este no es canal de ayuda en español que te dirijas a #Ubuntu-es | miriam this is the 10th time you have been addressed to the spanish channel
[20:41] <Praetor> Lemontree84: hhhmmmm  dunno bout that.... maybe... I quit using ATI cards for this very reason... you always have to special things with ATI cards to get them to work properly... even in windows games... ya always need specific ati patches ...bleh....
[20:41] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: you have to pay $7 US dallors for the driver..........
[20:41] <dhendrix> nils-:  depends what you mean, exactly. It should work fine for desktop usage. Intel graphics have never been known for their performance, though, so if you're looking for high framerate then I'd suggest a different GPU.
[20:42] <SpockVulcan> archboxman: yes but that is only a trial wont it run out after a set time
[20:42] <archboxman> SpockVulcan: thats the unlimited version half way the page
[20:42] <Praetor> Lemontree84: i think if you were running an older version of linux like 3 years old then ya you would have to mess with the .conf files
[20:43] <miriam> :)
[20:43] <Lemontree84> Praetor: nah using karmic 9.10, possible some very weird porlbem but cant find it, well if nothing helps, i guess i have to use the few metacity effects, and be happy with the old pc
[20:43] <Lemontree84> Praetor: thx a lot for your answers
[20:44] <soreau> Lemontree84: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[20:44] <nils-> dhendrix: well mainly desktop and video playback
[20:44] <mac_attack09> works here brenden
[20:44] <Praetor> Lemontree84: yur welcome.....don't give up.... those drivers exist and I betcha on ati site.... even if you have to ftp into ati to get them easier
[20:45] <Lemontree84> soreau: sure, gimme am moment
[20:45] <image_q> hello I set a new routing rule to open up my mysql port to iptables but for some reason I am still being locked out, am I supposed to do something to restart iptables or something?
[20:45] <Roasted> QUESTION - Is there a way I can customize how tall my menu options are? For example, if I go to system - preferences, certain themes adjust how tall or short these options are. Is there a way I can tweak them myself?
[20:45] <guntbert> image_q: no iptables rules apply immediately
[20:45] <dhendrix> nils-:  I have not tested it personally, but it should be okay. If you want to know for sure, check out review websites like Phoronix that do Linux benchmarks.
[20:45] <natschil> Hello. How can I change the screen resolution manually to something like 1280*800 ( which isn't in the screen resolution chooser from gnome-display-settings though it should)? I plugged in an external monitor, and the resolution is now really funny, even though I unplugged it.
[20:45] <soreau> Praetor: fglrx only support HD2xxx (r6xx) and newer cards. He is using the correct driver, which is the open radeon driver
[20:46] <nils-> dhendrix: great, thanks.
[20:46] <scivi> roasted >menu>system>preferences>main menu
[20:46] <Roasted> scivi, where in here can I customize how high these options are?
[20:47] <Lemontree84> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d4f429013
[20:47] <scivi> u cant but  can move things around to your liking
[20:47] <miriam> ^^
[20:47] <Roasted> scivi, that's not what I was looking for. I want to customize their size.
[20:47] <Lemontree84> soreau: i guess this is the problem "Checking for Xgl: not present"
[20:48] <soreau> Lemontree84: No, it is not
[20:48] <soreau> Lemontree84: The problem is you are using the software rasterizer
[20:48] <meli> hola
[20:48] <miriam> holaa
[20:48] <Praetor> soreau: oh... guess it has changed.... i had to get the catalyst driver from ati for one of the 7000 series cards in the past in order to get 3D effects to work like OpenGL
[20:48] <soreau> Lemontree84: Please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[20:48] <miriam> que taal?
[20:48] <meli> como estas
[20:48] <soreau> Praetor: 5 years ago?
[20:48] <meli> ??
[20:48] <meli> =)
[20:48] <mneptok> !es
[20:48] <natschil> alternatively, how can I reconfigure X?
[20:48] <miriam> laralalalala ! (8)
[20:49] <ISsupport00232> how do i use chmod to make a read only file able to edit?
[20:49] <meli> como esta
[20:49] <Praetor> soreau.... approximately ya..... i found them on ati site
[20:49] <meli> ???
[20:49] <meli> bien
[20:49] <ISsupport00232> i have a .cfg file i need to edit.. and its read only
[20:49] <meli> bien???oke
[20:49] <newbie> ciao a tutti
[20:49] <newbie> !list
[20:49] <meli> =)guapo rainbow
[20:49] <guntbert> !it | newbie
[20:49] <meli> feo
[20:49] <meli> rad7sdtgypw8idg
[20:50] <Praetor> soreau: maybe i didn't them but i couldn't get games to work right at all until i found the driver at ati and installed it
[20:50] <soreau> Praetor: Since then, a lot has changed. The open driver now has 2D and 3D support for all radeon cards from the 7000 to the HD4xxx series cards. fglrx now only has support for HD2xxx and newer series cards
[20:50] <ubuntuisloved> how does one get to rescue mode from the 9.10 live cd
[20:50] <Lemontree84> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d40a325b1 , my Xorg.0.log
[20:50] <natschil> ok, I cleared /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and now it works.
[20:51] <suigeneris> JuSt-SmiLe is a spammer
[20:51] <titan_ark> I was having a small issue. I keep getting a buzzing sound everytime i shut down. would anyone know how to solve it?
[20:51] <Praetor> soreau:  aaaahhhhhhhhh  ok
[20:51] <guntbert> ubuntuisloved: you get to the rescue mode by booting from the HD
[20:51] <mneptok> Praetor: if you have a card supported by it, try xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[20:52] <ubuntuisloved> is there a rescue mode on the cd
[20:52] <sarai> I have a ubuntu (ext3) computer that boots and runs normally but when I try to edit partitions it fails with the error that "filesystem has unsupported features" and "cannot find valid superblock". Thoughts?
[20:52] <Praetor> mneptok: no i don't.. mine is nvidia go6150
[20:52] <soreau> Lemontree84: (EE) RADEON(0): At least 34020 kB of video memory needed at this resolution and depth.
[20:52] <ubyserver> UID=110 is in use, resulting in an error during Plesk installation. How do I check what UID is free so that I can switch the user on "110" to?
[20:52] <guntbert> ubuntuisloved: the live system can be used that way
[20:52] <nathan7> sarai: What are you trying to edit it with?
[20:52] <ubuntuisloved> it wont handle the GUI i need command prompt only
[20:52] <soreau> Lemontree84: Your card does not have enough memory to run at the resolution and depth you have selected so it could not enable DRI
[20:52] <yogurtu> hi all
[20:53] <lola> Biien ou bieen ,
[20:53] <Lemontree84> soreau: hmm, good reason, for not possible, ^^ evil
[20:53] <yogurtu> I need help -> ubuntu karmic only detects two cpus in my quad core :) anyone?
[20:53] <guntbert> ubuntuisloved: ctrl+alt+F2 should give a command line
[20:53] <frostburn> is there a linux equivalent to the fireshot plugin for firefox?
[20:53] <sarai> nathan7: gparted live cd
[20:53] <John-_> I think I finally got a job :D
[20:54] <ikonia> John-_: try #ubuntu-offtopic as this is a support channel please.
[20:54] <John-_> oh ok
[20:54] <yogurtu> I need help -> ubuntu karmic only detects two cpus in my quad core :) anyone?
[20:54] <ubyserver> How do I check UID list to see what is using a certail UID?
[20:54] <ikonia> ubyserver: sudo blkid
[20:54] <DasEi> ubyserver: uuidy ? sudo blkid
[20:55] <Arimoto> I'm attempting an Ubuntu install from CD to a IDE CF card, but it isn't recognized - maybe due to not supporting DMA?  When Ubuntu live boots up, the CF card is not recognized as a device, but it shows up under IDE devices in the BIOS as 1GB InnoDrive.
[20:55] <soreau> Lemontree84: There are a few things you can try 1) Enable KMS by booting with radeon.modeset=1 as a kernel parameter since it has a memory manager, maybe it will help 2) Lower your max resolution via xorg.conf mode line 3) lower the bit depth to 16
[20:55] <Praetor> Radeon 7500 has less than 34MB of ram? i thought they were 64MB...mine was
[20:55] <Praetor> hhhmmm
[20:55] <Arimoto> Is there a way I can disable DMA as a boot option for my install?
[20:55] <ubyserver> Hey ikonia!
[20:55] <scivi> yogurtu is this in the system moniter
[20:55] <ubyserver> Hope all is well with ya.
[20:55] <nathan7> sarai: hmm, try ubuntu live with gparted
[20:55] <ubyserver> How do I check UID across the system?
[20:55] <yogurtu> yeap, I installed hardinfo
[20:56] <soreau> Praetor: I suspect 32MB
[20:56] <yogurtu> and it only shows two cores
[20:56] <ubyserver> For some reason it is just showing two UID
[20:56] <nathan7> sarai: just boot livecd, apt-get or synaptic install gparted
[20:56] <ubyserver> One for /dev/sda1 and the other /dev/sda5
[20:56] <hiexpo> \
[20:56] <ubyserver> I need to see what is using UID=110
[20:56] <DasEi> ubyserver: see above
[20:56] <yogurtu> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows only two cores... I have a phenom II x4 945
[20:56] <sarai> nathan7: thanks, I will do that, if it does not work will come back
[20:56] <Lemontree84> ati 7500 in and old emac g4^^, i just wanted to use this pc, instead of throwing it away :P, 32mb memory
[20:56] <Praetor> soreau: ya....bummer for him unless he can add more agp aperture and see if that might help....lol
[20:57] <ubyserver> DasEi uuidy?
[20:57] <DasEi> ubyserver: or do you talk of the permissions to the mountdirs ?
[20:57] <ubyserver> i've already done blkid and it's not showing me all assigned UID.
[20:57] <DasEi> !uuid | ubyserver
[20:57] <ubyserver> Well I'm trying to install a package that requires UID
[20:57] <guntbert> DasEi: he might be actually talking about user ids
[20:57] <soreau> Lemontree84: And another thing you can try is moving your xorg.conf file out of the way and let X guess the best options for your setup
[20:58] <ubyserver> Yes sorry for not specifying.
[20:58] <magn3ts> SWEET! "The kernel was unable to re-read the partition table of /dev/sda"!
[20:58] <yogurtu> hi scivi, yes in system monitor shows two threads, and hardinfo shows only two micros
[20:58] <Lemontree84> soreau: nope didnt worked, if i give the "power" to X, but thx alot for answering, it is much better to know where the problem is
[20:58] <guntbert> magn3ts: what did you do? use fdisk?
[20:59] <magn3ts> guntbert, I'm using this POS gparted on GPT disk
[20:59] <stefaan> Does the latest ubuntu server version supports software raid 6?
[20:59] <magn3ts> libparted is simply not stable to be operating on GPT disks
[20:59] <ubyserver> A small tweak instructs to edit the /etc/passwd file and change the UID for the user that is using the UID needed by the package i'm installing.
[20:59] <cone27> ;p
[20:59] <Praetor> need a 64MB version of that card
[20:59] <soreau> Lemontree84: Indeed. It is recommended to have a t least 64MB VRAM for compiz but it can run on less in reality
[20:59] <Roasted> QUESTION - Is there a way I can customize how tall my menu options are? For example, if I go to system - preferences, certain themes adjust how tall or short these options are. Is there a way I can tweak them myself?
[20:59] <guntbert> magn3ts: a reboot will fix that
[20:59] <ubyserver> If I change a UID I need to know which UID's are available.
[21:00] <xangua> Roasted: editing the gtkrc conf file of the theme you are using
[21:00] <Lemontree84> soreau: well, earlier ubuntu version was able to run on this card with 3d effects
[21:00] <magn3ts> guntbert, yeah, we'll see...
[21:00] <soreau> Lemontree84: You were likely using a lower resolution and/or bit depth
[21:00] <Roasted> xangua, ahh, so theres nothing in the menu to edit that? I thought perhaps there'd be a gconf setting to force the size of those items.
[21:00] <Lemontree84> soreau: and again funny thing is, kubuntu + 3d effects working, if i choose xrender, and not "opengl"
[21:00] <Lemontree84> soreau: kk np, i am try, thx for answer :)
[21:01] <Lemontree84> well thx alot !:)
[21:01] <soreau> Lemontree84: Compiz does not have an xrender backend directly selectable. It uses opengl
[21:01] <Praetor> Lemontree84: drop the bit depth to 16 and see if it enables the effects
[21:01] <homiziado> anyone knows how to launch system monitor from terminal? tks
[21:01] <cone27> for this you should install win 7:P
[21:01] <ikonia> homiziado: gnome-system-monitor
[21:01] <homiziado> tks a lot :)
[21:01] <soreau> Lemontree84: And my guess is that kde effects are less than fast with software rasterizer
[21:01] <Moster> hi, is it perfectly safe to open up port 22 to the Internet ?
[21:02] <ikonia> Moster: no, it's as safe as you allow it to be
[21:02] <Lemontree84> Praetor: i am doing it now, i guess there i snow way to do it "on the fly" just with xorg.conf ?
[21:02] <cone27> in no user admin admin
[21:02] <ikonia> Moster: safe passwords, log scraping etc etc
[21:02] <Lemontree84> soreau: yah they not "bad ass fast " :P
[21:02] <cone27> with root privilages
[21:02] <cone27> then yes
[21:03] <Moster> ikonia, log scraping?
[21:03] <guntbert> ubyserver: type grep 110 /etc/passwd
[21:03] <ikonia> Moster: scraping logs for break in attempts and blocking, something like fail2ban
[21:03] <soreau> Lemontree84: If you make changes to xorg.conf, you will have to restart X
[21:03] <Moster> oh, i see
[21:03] <Praetor> Lemontree84: for changing bit depth and resolution?  go to Display under System
[21:03] <soreau> Lemontree84: I would recommend lowering the resolution instead of the bit depth first thoguh
[21:03] <soreau> though*
[21:04] <cone27> i have small server with debian
[21:04] <Moster> authentication is secure though right
[21:04] <cone27> anyone wat to test it?
[21:04] <cone27> for safe config?
[21:04] <guntbert> ubyserver: what do you get?
[21:04] <ikonia> Moster: as secure as you make it, eg: secure passwords, no root login, etc etc
[21:04] <guntbert> !ot | cone27
[21:04] <Lemontree84> Praetor : yah for the resolution, but not for the bit depth
[21:04] <axisys> how can I tell if my machine has virtual extension? here is my /proc/cpuinfo http://pastebin.com/f72b86482
[21:05] <Lemontree84> soreau: i tryed already resolution to 800x600 1 minute earlier, but didnt worked either :P
[21:05] <axisys> i need run 64bit os on 32bit host with virtualbix
[21:05] <Praetor> soreau: figured instead of trying to reduce res until it works...if it works.... then just drop bit depth down cuz if it will work it will work for sure under a lower depth...1 click test
[21:05] <axisys> virtualbox
[21:05] <ikonia> axisys: not going to happen
[21:05] <ubyserver> guntbert I get polkituser:x:110:121:PolicyKit,,,:/var/run/PolicyKit:/bin/false
[21:05] <erUSUL> !find mysql.so
[21:06] <frostburn> man ubuntu is awesome, i just disconnected my laptop from the docking station and it detected the monitor was gone and merged all my desktops =D
[21:06] <yogurtu> can anyone help me? my ubuntu doesn't detect my quad core :(
[21:06] <Guest22055> im having a hard time using the xrandr C API, what is the best (only?) way to list the attached screens and then rotate only one of them?
[21:06] <stefaan> axisys:  yes the processor does support virtualtisation, just check it in the BIOS
[21:07] <ikonia> Guest22055: if you're using the api - check the api documentation on x.org
[21:07] <Praetor> Lemontree84: oh bummer.... nvidia doesn't have that prob... i can do it all under display
[21:07] <nathan7> Guest22055: Just hack xrandr to pieces ;)
[21:07] <stefaan> axisys: it's a Intel core to duo mobile
[21:07] <axisys> stefaan: ok
[21:07] <ubyserver> after typing "grep 110 /etc/passwd" I get "polkituser:x:110:121:PolicyKit,,,:/var/run/PolicyKit:/bin/false"
[21:07] <elliotjhug> hey, I've just resized my windows partition, and need to chainload it from grub. I ran update-grub to try and update my menu, but I get an error "Cannot open /dev/sdb" - grub needs to be looking in /dev/sda which is the new name of my windows partition- how can I change this setting?
[21:08] <axisys> stefaan: how can you tell i have virtualization support?
[21:08] <cone27> ;)
[21:08] <Praetor> well i gotta Jet..I'm late
[21:08] <stefaan> axisys:  it's usual disabled in the BIOS by default, for virtualisation: noth the processor and the BIOS on the mainboard must support it
[21:08] <DasEi> ubyserver: sry, was distracted, got your answer ?
[21:09] <ubyserver> yep
[21:09] <ubyserver> after typing "grep 110 /etc/passwd" I get "polkituser:x:110:121:PolicyKit,,,:/var/run/PolicyKit:/bin/false"
[21:09] <axisys> stefaan: the `lm' flag tell you i have virtualization support available ?
[21:09] <ubyserver> Now I need to free that UID
[21:10] <guntbert> ubyserver: yes - that belongs to the package policykit - I'm not sure if it will be safe to remove that - you better try to tell your app to use another uid (not 110)
[21:10] <stefaan> axisys: look in the system monitor, in case of virualisation ubuntu should report 4 cores instead of 2
[21:10] <ubyserver> It's only for an install.
[21:11] <elliotjhug> not to be impatient - but even a pointer to where grub2 keeps its config files these days would be really helpful here
[21:11] <DasEi> ubyserver: why not just own the package to the user shall be able to run it ?
[21:11] <guntbert> !grub2 | elliotjhug
[21:11] <stefaan> axisys:  if you see only two, then the computer is not using intel's virtualization technology
[21:12] <ubyserver> Well I'm in root.
[21:12] <malikkite> hi
[21:12] <ubyserver> and policyKit isn't a user that I created
[21:12] <ubyserver> Does that matter?
[21:12] <goldins> Is there a way to update the mirrors from the command line?
[21:12] <guntbert> ubyserver: I advice against changing that
[21:12] <ubyserver> Do you mean change the user of the package to policyKit?
[21:12] <ubyserver> Gotcha gunt.
[21:12] <axisys> stefaan: system monitor is reporting CPU1 an CPU2
[21:13] <ibrahim> salut, je cherche une solution pour partager mon imprimante installer sous ubuntu avec le windows installer sous ubuntu avec virtualbox
[21:13] <ubyserver> guntbert how about making the owner of the package user: policyKit
[21:13] <ubyserver> Is that possible?
[21:13] <stefaan> axisys:  then the best way is to reboot the computer, enter the BIOS and see if the BIOS allows virtualisation, if found, then it's disabled, enable it
[21:13] <guntbert> ubyserver: lets start from the beginning: what are you really trying to do?
[21:13] <guntbert> !fr | ibrahim
[21:14] <ubyserver> guntbert: here is a link to the actual recommended tweak http://hostechs.com/2009/05/plesk-install-on-ubuntu-server-it-seems-there-is-a-user-with-uid110-in-this-system-error/
[21:14] <ng0n> how can i tell if i'm running 32 bit or 64 bit linux ?
[21:15] <guntbert> ubyserver: reading...
[21:15] <ubyserver> guntbert: Awesome.
[21:15] <arand> ng0n: uname -m
[21:16] <Bisu[Shield]> dont know what I did jut ubuntu suddently stops during the startup process. I cannot even get any command prompt. how do i get it back to las tknowsn good configuration or some safemode or something
[21:16] <JoshuaL> Bisu[Shield], in grub there is a safe mode
[21:16] <DasEi> ubyserver: strange permissions, yeah, or reinstall polkit
[21:16] <JoshuaL> dont ask me what it is named though
[21:16] <Inualex> hola
[21:16] <Bisu[Shield]> i dont think i have grub
[21:16] <Inualex> como estas mami?
[21:16] <Inualex> speak spanich?
[21:16] <DasEi> ubyserver: what does /etc/group say about it ?
[21:16] <ng0n> arand: thanks.
[21:17] <Inualex> speak spanish?
[21:17] <overmind> !es | Inualex
[21:17] <arand> JoshuaL: Bisu[Shield], "Recovery", hold down shift on boot.
[21:17] <DasEi> Inualex: no, is the spanish channel down ?
[21:17] <ng0n> x86_54
[21:17] <ng0n> whoops.
[21:17] <stefaan> ng0n:  that's ubuntu amd64
[21:17] <ng0n> x86_64
[21:18] <ng0n> rr. thanks you guys.
[21:18] <ubyserver> DasEi after typing "grep 110 /etc/group" I get "mlocate:x:110:"
[21:18] <arand> ng0n: i686 is 32bit x86_64 is 64bit
[21:18] <magn3ts> Anyone here use Ubuntu + nvidia-settings on a laptop?
[21:18] <ng0n> u mean i386 ?
[21:19] <magn3ts> 386/486/686 are interchangable nowadays
[21:19] <arand> magn3ts: yes but what's the real question? ;)
[21:19] <ng0n> ok. didn't realize.  been a while.
[21:19] <guntbert> ubyserver: that tweak *could* make problems later...
[21:19] <ng0n> started linux with Slackware...
[21:19] <arand> ng0n: either actually.
[21:19] <ubyserver> You are 100% right.
[21:19] <ubyserver> Any recommendation.
[21:19] <ng0n> tnx u all.
[21:19] <Polarina> magn3ts, those three are different things.
[21:19] <magn3ts> arand, what do you do when nvidia makes your external monitor your primary monitor you unplug your laptop get on a plane and find out that you're left with a blank screen because your menus on the other display that doesn't exist anymore
[21:20] <DasEi> ubyserver: grep polkituser /etc/group  for the gid
[21:20] <Polarina> magn3ts, today's distros do not run on i386, not even ubuntu.
[21:20] <magn3ts> Polarina, I know. But for people trying to pick the one to download, if they have a modern x86 the 386/486/686 distinction isn't imporatnt
[21:20] <stefaan> software raid6 (raid 5 easy to find) on ubuntu possible? Raid 6 cause it support max 2 defective drives, raid 5 one.
[21:20] <magn3ts> Polarina, okay, good point I should've been more clear
[21:20] <Polarina> magn3ts, :)
[21:20] <Semikolon> How do I get the firewall to not auto-engage on each bootup? I can turn it off with Firestarter, but don't want it on at all, since I'm on a local network behind a router and only have some key ports opened anyway.
[21:21] <guntbert> ubyserver: well you could remove policykit, but ... are you on a server?
[21:21] <ubyserver> DasEi after running "grep polkituser /etc/group" I get "polkituser:x:121:"
[21:21] <malikkite> i have a wifi usb, if i type lsusb it's reconized but if i type iwconfig i cannot find it.... any tips?
[21:21] <arand> magn3ts: use nvidia-settings from terminal I would guess... (I don't have dual monitors myself)
[21:21] <ubyserver> guntbert the plan is to mimic my actions on a real server.
[21:21] <ubyserver> guntbert so yes I'm on a server.
[21:21] <guntbert> ubyserver: then desktop or sound are not important?
[21:22] <ubyserver> Nope
[21:22] <Bisu[Shield]> cool
[21:22] <ubyserver> not important because I will be in shell.
[21:22] <DasEi> ubyserver: strange, sudo apt-get install –reinstall policykit
[21:22] <hiexpo> how it goes guntbert
[21:22] <Bisu[Shield]> now that im at the command prompt how do I lean the gui?
[21:22] <Bisu[Shield]> *load
[21:22] <ubyserver> But my desktop next to me that I am creating the test server as has Xubuntu
[21:22] <guntbert> ubyserver: please type sudo aptitude remove policykit - read what is is  telling you
[21:22] <magn3ts> arand, hmph. I don't understand why it doesn't autodetect that the display has gone MIA
[21:22] <ubyserver> I installed Xubuntu just to test localhost, etc.
[21:23] <ubyserver> Alright
[21:23] <guntbert> ubyserver: better to test that in a virtual machine than on your working system
[21:23] <ubyserver> No I have a test dummy computer next to me
[21:23] <enjoytheday> how to disable ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver
[21:23] <ubyserver> This is my laptop.
[21:23] <Polarina> enjoytheday, you do not want that.
[21:24] <ubyserver> Alright it says many things like network-manager, xubuntu-desktop, etc.
[21:24] <enjoytheday> my  network connection is down
[21:24] <Bisu[Shield]> hello
[21:24] <arand> magn3ts: renaming ~/.nvidia-settings-rc might also be one way, or use nvidia-detect from terminal (all guesswork)
[21:24] <malikkite> someone can help me with usb module please?
[21:25] <ubyserver> So maybe I'll remove policykit then install plesk first.
[21:25] <ubyserver> Then put xubuntu back
[21:25] <magn3ts> arand, I'm going to make a few scripts and publish them somewhere. any guesswork is appreciated as I go through figuring this out
[21:25] <guntbert> ubyserver: thats why I asked about "server" and recommended to try it in a virtual machine
[21:25] <Industrial> Hello. Is there an easy way to put the Ubuntu livecd on a flash pen drive from WINDOWS? I do not have a cd to burn atm.
[21:25] <ubyserver> I do have the feeling that it will kick me off GUI :)
[21:25] <magn3ts> Industrial, wubi should
[21:25] <ubyserver> But I am putting Y
[21:25] <SwedeMike> Industrial: look for unetbootin
[21:25] <ubyserver> That means lots of typing oh man :(
[21:26] <Industrial> thanks guys :d
[21:26] <ubyserver> ahh man this is something else.
[21:26] <guntbert> ubyserver: your previous sentence gut cut off
[21:26] <stefaan> Bisu[Shield]: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:26] <guntbert> *got
[21:26] <klinux> Hi
[21:27] <ubyserver> I was saying that I'll remove it and then, install the package from command. Then install xubuntu back.
[21:27] <arand> Bisu[Shield]: are you in the recovery mode now?
[21:27] <Bisu[Shield]> yes
[21:27] <Bisu[Shield]> yes i am in recovery
[21:27] <ubyserver> The gui package installer was pretty cute
[21:28] <ubyserver> What is the shortcut to have multiple prompts again?
[21:28] <ubyserver> Was it F1?
[21:29] <arand> Bisu[Shield]: stefaan: Then I don't think starting gdm from here is the best idea, rather try to fix what the issue is and then reboot normally to get into graphical.
[21:29] <Bisu[Shield]> k
[21:29] <Bisu[Shield]> rebooting now
[21:29] <guntbert> ubyserver: multiple prompts?
[21:29] <ubyserver> Yes
[21:29] <ubyserver> Like multiple sessions.
[21:30] <Liquid-Silence> screen
[21:30] <guntbert> ubyserver: screen maybe?
[21:30] <Liquid-Silence> ubyserver ^^
[21:30] <ubyserver> I remember years ago there was a key that you press it will switch to another screen that had a login prompt
[21:31] <Liquid-Silence> ctrl + alt + f1 f2 f3
[21:31] <ubyserver> There we go.
[21:31] <stefaan> arand:  true, I did not read the history of this X problem
[21:31] <guntbert> ubyserver: alt + left , alt+right
[21:31] <ubyserver> Awesome
[21:31] <ubyserver> hey I'm still in xubuntu after removing policyKit
[21:31] <ubyserver> Let me check the grep 110 now.
[21:31] <ubyserver> same thing.
[21:32] <ubyserver> It did not remove it from /etc/passwd
[21:32] <ubyserver> I typed "grep 110 /etc/passwd" and PolicyKit is still there.
[21:33] <guntbert> ubyserver: now you can remove the user: sudo userdel PolicyKit
[21:33] <ubyserver> Alright
[21:33] <ubyserver> use rPolicyKit does not exit
[21:33] <ubyserver> exist*
[21:33] <idespinner> case sensitive?
[21:34] <ubyserver> Alright
[21:34] <idespinner> policyKit vs PolicyKit
[21:34] <ubyserver> I did userdel polkituser
[21:34] <Bisu[Shield]> works
[21:34] <Bisu[Shield]> thanks guys
[21:35] <matt__> exit
[21:35] <arand> Bisu[Shield]: no problem, gl hf ;)
[21:38] <candyban> is there a reason why my ata disks are /dev/sdx rather than /dev/hdx ? ... I'm also unable to use hdparm to change some settings (e.g. enable dma)
[21:39] <haffe> candyban: Unification of drivers.
[21:39] <haffe> There is no /dev/hd* anymore.
[21:39] <haffe> Everything is /dev/sd*
[21:39] <arand> candyban: switch from hd to sd naming scheme was done globally, a while ago.
[21:39] <candyban> arand, I haven't used ata for a long while ... so I didn't really notice
[21:40] <erUSUL> !uuid
[21:40] <erUSUL> candyban: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[21:41] <dbdii407> Failed to run gdebi-gtk '--non-interactive' '/home/scrap/Downloads/file.deb' as user root.
[21:41] <dbdii407> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[21:41] <candyban> erUSUL, it's a clean install ...
[21:41] <dbdii407> Anyone know how to fix?
[21:42] <erUSUL> candyban: just info about the driver unification
[21:42] <Arimoto> Is there a good way to do a minimal, X11-less Ubuntu install?
[21:42] <candyban> arand, haffe is there a way to enable dma ? (as I'm getting rather poor performance ... but perhaps 6MB/s is ok for a p3?)
[21:42] <Yautja_Cetanu> How do you set up a different virtual server on apache2 and ubuntu server edition, with a pc on a local network, no dns server and only one ip address (So I think with different ports)? Feel free to direct me to a tutorial or advice on using webmin
[21:43] <FADANI> hello
[21:43] <erUSUL> !minimal | Arimoto
[21:43] <FADANI> anyone here
[21:44] <guntbert> Yautja_Cetanu: please ask in #ubuntu-server - I suppose you will have more success there
[21:44] <candyban> erUSUL, is there a way to tweak the disks? like there used to be ? hdparm -d1 /dev/hd*
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > Yautja_Cetanu
[21:44] <erUSUL> candyban: via kernel parameters you can force some settings
[21:45] <PyroPhelia> quick question, i'm about to build a pretty beefy system that's going to need 3-4 monitors.  With the current release of drivers, who supports linux better; nVidia or ati?
[21:45] <candyban> erUSUL, sysctl or bootparams?
[21:45] <purpzey> I manually stopped samba, will it still start again at my next boot?
[21:45] <erUSUL> candyban: bootparams
[21:46] <Arimoto> erUSUL: thanks
[21:46] <candyban> erUSUL, wow ... great improvement that unification ... thanks ...now I know where to start looking for my tweaks
[21:46] <Gaudi> hello
[21:47] <erUSUL> candyban: what's the problem exactly? low dma mode?
[21:47] <Gaudi> can someone help me with the md5sum file?
[21:47] <Red_HamsterX> What are you trying to do, Gaudi?
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> purpzey, it should
[21:47] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: checking if the iso I downloaded is not corrupted
[21:47] <candyban> erUSUL, I'm having only 6MB/s throughput (it's syncing my md device of 120GB which is going to take about 4 more hours)
[21:47] <purpzey> ZykoticK9: Thanks.
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> PyroPhelia, i would strongly recommend Nvidia (but I'm sure others would disagree)
[21:48] <serenitysman> how do i get xchat to store different networks
[21:48] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, where are you getting stuck?
[21:48] <erUSUL> candyban: check dmesg
[21:48] <candyban> md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk ... md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000 KB/sec) for recovery.
[21:49] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: someone gave me this page http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows, but I am afraid I can't completely understand it
[21:49] <serenitysman> anyone willing to help me, i new to ubuntu
[21:49] <Red_HamsterX> So, Gaudi, you are currently using Windows, right?
[21:49] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: I already downloaded the file, opened the command prompt but I do not how to keep
[21:49] <jackbrown> anybody there ?
[21:49] <jackbrown> i need a little help
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> serenitysman, what do you mean "store different networks"?  Are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[21:50] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: yes because I am installing Linux on my laptop, and the last iso I downloaded was corrupted
[21:50] <guntbert> !ask | jackbrown
[21:50] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: and the computer I am right now got Vista cuz is the family computer
[21:50] <candyban> erUSUL, I remember that using hdparm -d1 used to increase performance quite a bit (going from 3-5 MB/s to 20+MB/s)
[21:50] <Arimoto> !Alternate CD
[21:50] <Red_HamsterX> Okay, Gaudi, where did you save the file given on the first line of the post? ("C:\programs\md5sum.exe" or something along those lines)
[21:51] <jackbrown> i'm experiencing problem installing my webcam drivers http://www.cranked.me/2008/05/how-to-install-sony-vaio-vgn-fz21m.html when i follow the  instruction they start to works but they stops then
[21:51] <robindekker> hallo
[21:51] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: I already moved it to system32 as the post says
[21:52] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, try typing "md5sum" by itself and press return. Let me know the gist of what it says.
[21:52] <erUSUL> candyban: dmesg should say what dma mode the disk are being set to
[21:53] <ayush_aggrwl> k
[21:53] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: No such file
[21:53] <serenitysman> ZykoticK9 XChat 2.8.6
[21:53] <serenitysman> A multiplatform IRC Client
[21:53] <serenitysman> Linux 2.6.31-19-generic [i686/1.00GHz/SMP]
[21:53] <serenitysman> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[21:53] <serenitysman> Compiled: Aug  6 2009
[21:53] <FloodBot1> serenitysman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <mneptok> !pastebin > serenitysman
[21:54] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, your problem, then, is that system32 is not in PATH. Type the following two commands: "C:" "cd \Windows\system32"
[21:54] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, once that's done, try running "md5sum" again.
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> serenitysman, so click on "XChat" and then "Network List" - under the heading Networks are the settings for your various networks you connect too
[21:55] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX, I am on system32 I just did that
[21:55] <serenitysman> k
[21:55] <nightfrog> serenitysman: there is an #xchat channel
[21:56] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, type 'dir md5sum*'. Make sure it shows that 'md5sum.exe' is in the same directory you're looking at.
[21:56] <serenitysman> ok
[21:56] <candyban> ata1: PATA max UDMA/33 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xffa0 irq 14 ... ata2: PATA max UDMA/33 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xffa8 irq 15
[21:56] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX, 1 file md5sum.exe
[21:56] <hannar> which channel is appropriate to ask questions on the apache config files in Ubuntu?
[21:57] <erUSUL> candyban: well udm33 it is. pretty low for nowadays. what type of disk are w talking about ?
[21:57] <vuf> i created a samba share in the ubuntu desktop, but it is read only. how do i make it writable?
[21:57] <guntbert> hannar: probably #ubuntu-server (for ubuntu related questions) or else #httpd
[21:57] <hannar> thanx guntbert
[21:58] <Sa[i]nT> How do I zip something into little files?
[21:58] <Red_HamsterX> Gaudi, try ".\md5sum.exe"
[21:58] <guntbert> hannar: Good luck :-)
[21:58] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX, no such file
[21:58] <Sa[i]nT> Like multiple files.
[21:58] <blakkheim> Sa[i]nT: 7z would be better for that
[21:59] <candyban> erUSUL, ata1.00: ATA-5: WDC WD1200JB-00CRA1, 17.07W17, max UDMA/100 ... ata2.01: ATA-7: SAMSUNG SP1614N, TM100-24, max UDMA/100
[21:59] <eirjewoir> Ubuntu sucks cock
[21:59] <erUSUL> candyban: could help seing the entire dmesg
[22:00] <Red_HamsterX> I'm afraid you're beyond my knowledge of Windows, then, Gaudi, but you can find GUI-based MD5sum utilities pretty easily.
[22:00] <axisys> stefaan: virtualization is enabled in bios.. just checked
[22:00] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX, well is there another way to check if my iso is corrupt?
[22:00] <Gaudi> cuz I don't really feel like wasting cds
[22:00] <Red_HamsterX> Also, Gaudi, the CD has a "check CD for defects" option, if you don't mind using the disc or mounting it in Virtualbox.
[22:01] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Gaudi, md5 sum
[22:01] <Gaudi> Red_HamsterX: I am going to burn it, hopefully it will run properly
[22:01] <Red_HamsterX> BluesKaj-Laptop, we're working off of http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:01] <Gaudi> BluesKaj-Laptop, I am having troubles with that on Windows, any ideas?
[22:03] <guntbert> Gaudi: you can download a gui version too: winmd5sum (that is even on portableapps)
[22:03] <candyban> erUSUL, http://www.pastebin.com/d9af3d50
[22:03] <jackbrown> hey?  i found a guide about installing webcam on my 9.10 http://www.tomfotherby.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/ubuntu-9-10-on-a-sony-vaio-vgn-ar51e/ could anybody help me ?
[22:03] <lantizia> Has anyone managed to fix the (possibly OpenAL related) sound issues with OpenArena!?
[22:03] <BluesKaj-Laptop> guntbert, exactly , was just going to suggest that
[22:04] <Gaudi> guntbert, BluesKaj-Laptop, I am already burning it, lets hope I am not wasting another cd lol
[22:04]  * Gaudi is starving
[22:04] <guntbert> Gaudi: well it is your CD ...
[22:04] <Gaudi> guntbert, out of my desperation I started the burning process before you suggested that. Will try next time
[22:04] <BluesKaj-Laptop> I used that gui app to check my first kubuntu install ...brings back newb memories and i'm still learning
[22:05] <Gaudi> !commands | Gaudi
[22:05] <ian45> hello
[22:06] <Gaudi> I am a newbie right now, not more than 5 hours under ubuntu (few days but been busy with school)
[22:06] <axisys> anyone knows how to make freebsd64 bit guest os on my ubuntu 32bit host recognize the cpu long mode?
[22:06] <erUSUL> candyban: it detects the controler as only capable of udma33 dunno why
[22:07] <candyban> erUSUL, even with udma33, it should go up to 20MB ...
[22:07] <candyban> erUSUL, [[22:07] <andrea66> è possibile vedere le seriali?
[22:07] <erUSUL> candyban: pata_serverworks weird controller
[22:07] <xiong> When a wifi connection is made or lost, a notice pops up. Can I suppress this distraction?
[22:08] <Gaudi> !it | andrea66
[22:08] <guntbert> !piracy | andrea66
[22:08] <andrea66> ok
[22:08] <Gaudi> lol at all the languages of FloodBot1
[22:09] <Gaudi> I mean ubottu, and no more ot on my part
[22:09] <erUSUL> candyban: 33 MBits/s ---> ~4 MiB/s
[22:10] <vuf> how do i make a samba share writable through the gui? "read only" checkbox appears to be missing (ubuntu 9.10)
[22:10] <candyban> erUSUL, Is that 33/66/100/150 Mbit? I always though MByte
[22:10] <Gaudi> vuf, have you tried the gksu nautilus command?
[22:10] <juniorbatista> OLá.
[22:11] <sebrock> hey, Im looking for a lightweight tcp-forwarding proxy with authentication. I was looking at squid but decided it is to big. Any tips?
[22:11] <vuf> Gaudi, it's the connecting client that does not have write access
[22:11] <nathan7> netcat and a shell script
[22:11] <gio> ~Viper@ip24-172-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl
[22:11] <plecebo> why is the op called flood bot?
[22:11] <Gaudi> vuf, then I am afraid that's under my knowledge, ask in the channel again they might be able to help you
[22:11] <nathan7> plecebo: It kills peoples flooding in
[22:11] <jrib> plecebo: he prevents floods and is a bot...
[22:12] <plecebo> gotca
[22:12] <plecebo> bout to say
[22:12] <h00ked> hi
[22:12] <gio> st
[22:13] <gio> mailto:Hari@hsunda3-1.lsu.edu
[22:13] <candyban> erUSUL, according to wikipedia it is MB/s not Mbit
[22:13] <guntbert> gio:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:13] <Migi32> I'm a developer of an open-source game that's in the ubuntu repo's. We're about to release a new version, but I don't have a clue how we should get that .deb in the repo's updated. Ideas?
[22:14] <backslash7> hey folks - I'm running Ubuntu on my mediacenter and have it set up to automatically log in a user. how do I run a script after the user has been logged in? I tried /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default, the usual .xinitrc/.xsession/.bash_profile but neither of them seem to work - sorry for this silly question but I just can't seem to figure it out...
[22:14] <Alan502> Hello :) I'm trying to add a ratpoison sesion to ubuntu netbook remix. Could someone help me? I know ubuntu should add by defult the ratposion session but mine didn't
[22:14] <xangua> Migi32: well i use getdeb repositories to get the latest version of some apps and games; ask there
[22:14] <xangua> !google getdeb
[22:14] <harleypig> -!- No results found
[22:14] <backslash7> X needs to be already running (I want to xauth + for personal use)
[22:14] <Migi32> xangua, k thx, I will
[22:15] <h00ked> at zije gentoo ubuntu je sracka
[22:15] <Alan502> can someone help me please?
[22:15] <phantomgraph> Ello all, anyone have some advice on sharing printers from a Ubuntu box to winblows?
[22:15] <guntbert> !please | Alan502
[22:15] <xangua> Migi32: well of course the updates there are only aviable to the ones that use getdeb
[22:15] <plecebo> anyways i run ubuntu on 9.10 and i want to install python 3 and python 3 idel  first off i installed python 3.0 using software center but when i try to install its idel i get an error
[22:16] <erUSUL> Migi32: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[22:16] <Alan502> guntbert:
[22:16] <plecebo> i run it on a mac book
[22:16] <thevor> Hey I am having trouble updating. Anytime I try to update I get an error message related to Cairo dock, which is no longer installed on my computer. This is the error message: http://www.pastebin.org/94239
[22:16] <Alan502> guntbert: I'm just trying to add an X session :( ratpoison
[22:16] <erUSUL> Migi32: you can also allways maintain your own ppa
[22:16] <Migi32> erUSUL, thx
[22:16] <PyroPhelia> this is a stupid question I know, but, besides the oled keybaords, has anybody ever seen a erginomic keyboard that doens't have a bunch of windows spam all over it?
[22:16] <erUSUL> !ppa | Migi32
[22:16] <candyban> backslash7, try .xsessionrc ?
[22:16] <guntbert> Alan502: we read that - yes - no need to repeat quickly
[22:17] <Migi32> erUSUL, I know we can do that, but about 50% of our gamers know about us by browsing through the Ubuntu Software Center
[22:17] <Alan502> guntbert: okay
[22:17] <erUSUL> Migi32: ok :)
[22:17] <backslash7> candyban: I read stuff about Ubuntu 9.10 switching from .xsession to something else for some reason? Which .* file am I supposed to use now. kinda fucking confusing right?
[22:17] <guntbert> !language | backslash7
[22:18] <plecebo> my error says i may be missing a neccesary packadge or else one is conflicting
[22:18] <candyban> backslash7, you can also use .xprofile (apparently)
[22:18] <jcurran> anyone here have an intel brookdale and have compiz working in karmic?  I already went back to driver 2.4, but compiz just shows white screen when enabled.
[22:19] <semitones> hey, what do I need to do so that my linux shares show up in windows' "Network Places?"
[22:20] <Mynewnicj> off topic: smart question:) a NightElf offers to buy your soul. What is your price? And what if he was called "Leegolas"?
[22:20] <thevor> Hey I am having trouble updating. Anytime I try to update I get an error message related to Cairo dock, which is no longer installed on my computer. This is the error message: http://www.pastebin.org/94239   Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:20] <tr101> semi did you create a share point on linux yet?
[22:20] <guntbert> Mynewnicj: don't post intentionally off topic stuff here
[22:20] <phantomgraph> Um - I need some help for some reason after I upgraded Cups so  my winblows machines can see my printer
[22:20] <blakkheim> thevor: looks like that repository isn't working
[22:20] <thevor> blackkeim: But the thing is I don't even have cairo dock anymore.
[22:20] <semitones> window 2
[22:20] <phantomgraph> Semi : mabey same problem?
[22:21] <blakkheim> thevor: remove it from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:21] <thevor> is that "gedit" ?
[22:21] <Alan502> Can someone help me adding an X session?
[22:21] <idespinner> thevor, remove the cairo repository
[22:21] <backslash7> candyban: .xsessionrc doesn't seem to work for me, is that normal?
[22:21] <semitones> how do you switch windows in weechat
[22:21] <phantomgraph> tr101 : same as Semi's prob?
[22:21] <blakkheim> thevor: you can use gedit or vi or nano or whatever you like, but edit it with sudo
[22:21] <candyban> backslash7, dunno ... just got it from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1130521.html :)
[22:22] <tr101> correct sounds like a basic security permissions issue
[22:22] <thevor> blackkeim: Can I just delete them through file manageR?
[22:22] <blakkheim> thevor: no
[22:22] <thevor> blackkeim: Anyway to do it through gui?
[22:22] <Moster> i want an sftp server for my ubuntu desktop - is it open-ssh ?
[22:22] <blakkheim> thevor: i just told you that you could use any editor you like to edit the file
[22:23] <blakkheim> Moster: openssh-server
[22:23] <Sa[i]nT> How do you split a 7z file into multiple pieces?
[22:23] <tr101> brb
[22:23] <blakkheim> Sa[i]nT: man 7z
[22:23] <Alan502> semitones: you should be able to see the windows up
[22:23] <Moster> hm, i already installed that and have ssh access
[22:23] <datacrusher> hi everyone, iv just downloaded the ati driver from the site, on a 9.10 ubuntu fresh install. iv started the .run driver but i got this error: " ./devault_policy.sh does not support version" .... make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[22:23] <jcurran> semitones:  I is a lot easier to just put the files in /var/www and host a server (visit your linux ip).  You might need to run "sudo chown -Rv www-data:www-data /var/www/" after putting the files in that directory and also /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start"
[22:23] <guntbert> thevor: if you use gedit: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[22:23] <backslash7> candyban: hmm according to that post .xsessionrc should be fine... im glad im not the only one getting confused by all the changes :P
[22:23] <datacrusher> how do i install this driver?
[22:23] <blakkheim> Moster: sftp is built into openssh
[22:23] <elengp> my God ! so many people
[22:24] <thevor> guntbert: I've never used it before. I'm using ubuntu 9.10, not sure what to do.
[22:24] <elengp> me too
[22:24] <semitones> jcurran: but that wouldn't allow read/write access..
[22:24] <elengp> guntbert
[22:24] <blakkheim> thevor: how did you originally add that repository?
[22:24] <foxjazz> is there a gnome linux version that runs under windows?
[22:24] <thevor> blakkheim: it was added when I installed cairo.
[22:25] <xiong> When a wifi connection is made or lost, a notice pops up. Can I suppress this distraction?
[22:25] <blakkheim> thevor: well it needs to be removed from your sources
[22:25] <blakkheim> thevor: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:25] <elengp> hey guntbert, let's chat?
[22:25] <blakkheim> thevor: then look for that line for cairo and remove it, save the file, and run sudo aptitude update
[22:25] <idespinner> foxjazz, are you referring to a gnome equivalent to KDE for windows?
[22:25] <backslash7> candyban: .xprofile finally worked, very odd. thanks a lot for your help
[22:25] <guntbert> !ot | elengp sorry no
[22:26] <foxjazz> idespinner: not sure... maybe
[22:26] <Alan502> Can someone help me adding an X session? Ubuntu doesn't add ratpoison when i install it fromt the repositories :/
[22:27] <jrib> Alan502: have you checked if the package contains the session file?
[22:27] <idespinner> foxjazz, look here http://windows.kde.org/
[22:27] <Alan502> jrib: no, i just sudo apt-get install ratpoison
[22:27] <phantomgraph> Anyone know if their is a better place to get IRC help on sharing connections (specifically printers) with windows?
[22:27] <jrib> Alan502: that's what I would do
[22:28] <thevor> blakkeim: How do I save it?
[22:28] <blakkheim> thevor: ctrl+x,y
[22:28] <Alan502> jrib: i did, but ubuntu doesn't add the session by default. A friend helped me adding it the last time. I don't remember what was in the file or why did i place it.
[22:28] <phantomgraph> From a Ubuntu machine, and with out having to shell out $..
[22:29] <Alan502> jrib: thoug
[22:29] <jrib> Alan502: so does the package provide it or not?
[22:29] <foxjazz> tx, installing now
[22:30] <mattius> hello again
[22:30] <Alan502> jrib: what do you exactly mean?
[22:30] <Adriancr> kien esta conectado?
[22:30] <phantomgraph> Ello mattius
[22:30] <Alan502> jrib: i sudo apt-get install ratpoison but it did not add the session
[22:30] <jrib> Alan502: check if the package contains the session file.  It either does and gdm isn't using it or it doesn't.
[22:30] <Alan502> jrib: where should i look for the session file?
[22:31] <Alan502> !es | Adriancr
[22:31] <Adriancr> hello
[22:31] <jrib> Alan502: dpkg -L will list a package's contents
[22:31] <Alan502> jrib: dpkg -L ratpoison?
[22:31] <jrib> Alan502: yes. I think they end up in /usr/share/xsessions/ usually.
[22:31] <mattius> can anyone help me get my Belkin Wireless FD5070 wireless usb adapter on Ubuntu 9.14?
[22:31] <thevor> blakkeim:Thank you so much
[22:31] <adambuntu> hey a bit of help converting videos to wmv from vob
[22:32] <adambuntu> i need a utility that will do it
[22:32] <Alan502> jrib: thanks thanks, im going to look at it
[22:32] <Adriancr> ola
[22:33] <ubuntu> yo
[22:33] <jrib> Alan502: if the package doesn't provide one at all, I would check bugs.ubuntu.com for an existing bug or explanation.  Then after reading the /why/ I would decide how best to solve the problem.  One option, depending on what the bug tracker says, would be to create my own .desktop session file based on an existing one in /usr/share/xsessions/
[22:33] <adambuntu> can someone give me a utility that will rip from dvd to wmv?
[22:33] <Adriancr> hi
[22:34] <Adriancr> hello
[22:34] <ojii> is there a way to disable the F1->Help keyboard shortcut? That 'help' actually freezes my system instead of helping me....
[22:34] <jrib> Alan502: here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ratpoison/+bug/69155
[22:34] <jrib> ojii: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts possibly
[22:34] <Adriancr> ugly ojii
[22:34] <ojii> jr974: already tried
[22:34] <ojii> there's no help shortcut there
[22:34] <jeroen> is this a dutch site or do I have to talk english?
[22:35] <ojii> Adriancr: ?
[22:35] <Tiggers> I just installed a PCI wireless network card into my LAMP server and got it to detect using ndiswrapper, but I can't get it to actually connect to the wireless when I do "sudo dhclient wlan2"
[22:35] <guntbert> !en | jeroen
[22:35] <jrib> ojii: you're talking about outside of gnome-terminal, right?
[22:35] <ojii> jrib: in terminal would be a start (how do i clear a shortcut, rather than just overriding it with a new one?), but I mean in general
[22:35] <jrib> ojii: backspace
[22:35] <ojii> I get random 'help' windows popping up killing my system
[22:36] <Adriancr> i'm spanish
[22:36] <ojii> is there like a single package with this help stuff in it so i can just ditch it once and for all?
[22:36] <jeroen> how do I connect my samsung soul (u900) to ubuntu?
[22:36] <xenocampanoli> rails gem problem
[22:36] <olabaz> hey
[22:36] <Adriancr> what is te server spanish?
[22:36] <jrib> Adriancr: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:37] <Adriancr> the*
[22:37] <olabaz> I just installed ubuntu with "into windows" option
[22:37] <Adriancr> thnk you
[22:37] <Alan502> Adriancr: there's an ubuntu channel in spanish, there's even a channel for Costa Rica. There's also a channel for us, Central Americans
[22:37] <Adriancr> thank you
[22:37] <Alan502> !es | Adriancr
[22:37] <runes> Question: Is there a restriction on embedding the fonts that came with the Ubuntu distro in html pages?
[22:37] <olabaz> and I"m trying to get an irc client installed, can someone help me
[22:37] <mattius> exit
[22:37] <militant> quick question.  any risks or issues to be aware of when changing swappiness?  just a laptop i use pidgin and chrome and some terminals on
[22:37] <blakkheim> olabaz: open terminal, sudo aptitude install irssi
[22:38] <jrib> olabaz: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:38] <markl_> what kernel release is Lucid using?
[22:38] <maromar> hi
[22:38] <jrib> !lucid | markl_
[22:38] <maromar> hi
[22:38] <jrib> militant: I don't see any risk other than your system swapping more or less
[22:38] <olabaz> blakkheim, thank you but how come xchat doesn't work?
[22:38] <blakkheim> olabaz: it would be the same command, just replace irssi with xchat
[22:39] <rolsworth> why does flash use so much of the cpu compared to windows
[22:39] <blakkheim> rolsworth: it's proprietary and unoptimized
[22:39] <jrib> rolsworth: you'd have to ask adobe
[22:39] <maromar> any female here ?
[22:39] <Moster> so as i've set up open-ssh server already and can connect with PuTTY - should I just be able to connect with sftp with FileZilla ? or do i need to configure the server first ?
[22:39] <olabaz> blakkheim, ok, I was doing "sudo apt-get install xchat" what's the difference (I'm new to linux)
[22:40] <jrib> Moster: should be able to connect
[22:40] <blakkheim> olabaz: aptitude and apt-get are almost the same, but aptitude is a bit "smarter" and i  prefer to use it. either one will be ok.
[22:40] <jrib> maromar: this channel is for ubuntu support questions only
[22:40] <Adriancr> hello of new
[22:40] <militant> blakkheim: i always use apt-get.  i never use aptitude or synaptic.  should i?
[22:40] <runes> The reason I ask about embedding fonts on a Ubuntu server? I do not want to get sued by Ubuntu when users hit the page and it asks them to download a font
[22:41] <keyboardtalk> What is a good sound mixer for Ubuntu?
[22:41] <blakkheim> militant: that's up to you
[22:41] <olabaz> blakkheim, ok thanks
[22:41] <blakkheim> olabaz: np
[22:41] <scivi> runes i think your safe :)
[22:42] <jrib> runes: check the licences on the individual fonts...
[22:42] <Roasted> I have murrine installed on two ubuntu computers, yet one renders a theme nicely whereas the other looks like its a 1970 theme. The only thing is I noticed in the repo, the machine working right has "GIT" listed in the version of murrine. what is this?
[22:42] <xangua> Roasted: are the bothe the same version of ubuntu¿'
[22:42] <runes> scivi, jrib thanx..what with the grey area of font licencing I just want to avoid problems down the road
[22:42] <xangua> are both*
[22:43] <Roasted> xangua, yes
[22:43] <Roasted> xangua, except 32 vs 64 bit, but both 9.10
[22:43] <scivi> runes  ubuntu comes as standered fully free (as in free speech)
[22:43] <jrib> runes: getting real legal advice or at least reading the licences yourself is preferrable to asking for a legal opinion from some strangers on irc imo
[22:44] <scivi> if im wrong could sum1 correct me
[22:44] <datacrusher> is there a quick shortcut to show my desktop?
[22:44] <datacrusher> as windows _ d on windows
[22:44] <jrib> datacrusher: check system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[22:45] <xenocampanoli> It looks like rails on Ubuntu Server is failing from an old mysql:  !!! The bundled mysql.rb driver has been removed from Rails 2.2. Please install the mysql gem and try again: gem install mysql.
[22:45] <runes> thanx scivi, jrib I figured I would start here and get pointers before asking the legal dept at ubuntu
[22:45] <atx> hey guys, any suggestions on changing the colors in ls -l?
[22:45] <Roasted> any ideas guys?
[22:45] <jrib> runes: there may be restrictions on some fonts.  For example, you may have to bundle them with the licence.  I don't know
[22:45] <jrib> atx: LS_COLORS
[22:46] <scivi> runes u want canonical http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html check this out
[22:46] <atx> LS_COLORS is there a file?
[22:46] <jrib> atx: (see the dircolors command)
[22:46] <dabaR> what is that command that reconfigures a package, like to switch between kdm and gdm...
[22:46] <MenZa> dabaR: dpkg-reconfigure.
[22:46] <jrib> atx: LS_COLORS is an environment variable
[22:46] <runes> nice link scivi  looking at it now
[22:47] <adambuntu> how do i see my drives and their locations?
[22:47] <dabaR> MenZa: thanks.
[22:47] <adambuntu> ls?
[22:47] <datacrusher> thanks jrib
[22:47] <MenZa> adambuntu: sudo fdisk -l will show you your partitions.
[22:47] <adambuntu> MenZa, including my usb drive?
[22:47] <jrib> adambuntu: Places menu.  Or « mount » if you want something in a shell
[22:47] <scivi> there are other free licences and u may want to check out a few others
[22:47] <MenZa> adambuntu: aye.
[22:47] <adambuntu> thanks
[22:47] <xiong> When a wifi connection is made or lost, a notice pops up. Can I suppress this distraction?
[22:47] <devilsadvocate> adambuntu, mount, or cat /etc/mtab, for mounted filesystems, sudo fdisk -l for all the available partitions
[22:47] <olabaz> I installed xchat and irss where did irss go?
[22:48] <MenZa> olabaz: irssi is run from a terminal.
[22:48] <keyboardtalk> What is a good sound mixer for Ubuntu?
[22:48] <olabaz> ah
[22:49] <Moster> i get a connection timed out when trying to connect with filezilla client to my openssh server
[22:49] <runes> scivi FOUND IT !!!!!   http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException  for font consideration  I could put the licence infomation into my site
[22:49] <ikonia> Moster: what's it trying to connect with scp / ftp ?
[22:49] <Moster> sftp
[22:50] <jrib> runes: there exist other licences too.
[22:50] <olabaz> MenZa: I don't like irrsi how do I exit it from the terminal and then delete it?
[22:50] <ikonia> Moster: try using a terminal based sftp client to get better error output
[22:50] <ikonia> Moster: check the access log also
[22:51] <MenZa> olabaz: /quit, then sudo apt-get remove irssi.
[22:51] <Semitones> how do I connect to windows shares (using lubuntu)
[22:51] <Moster> there is a logontype setting in FZ: Anon, Normal, Ask, Interactive, Account.
[22:52] <Grufle> I'm having problems with empathy and my mic on an acer aspire one 150 on a fresh ubuntu 9.10 install with all updates applied. Sound recorder works but when I make a call to a Gtalk account it doesn't register any sound
[22:52] <Grufle> tried with Skype too
[22:52] <Grufle> same problem
[22:52] <olabaz> MenZa: ah, says "unable to unlock administration directory..."
[22:53] <MenZa> olabaz: Then you have a package manager (update-manager, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude) running elsewhere.
[22:53] <Grufle> I've tried messing around with alsamixer but to no avail
[22:53] <schgoddie> hi, since yesterday my mailman do not send mail anymore :o( - ubuntu-server 9.04 package dovecot-postfix
[22:54] <schgoddie> /var/log/mailman/smtp-failture got tons of code 450 errors and a strange mail-address
[22:54] <MenZa> schgoddie: You may have more luck in #ubuntu-server
[22:54] <magn3ts> I tried to upgrade to nvidia 195 and now my computer will not boot past "isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards"
[22:54] <olabaz> MenZa: oh ok.  Also before I was trying "sudo apt-get install xchat" and it wouldn't work, then I did "sudo aptitude install xchat" and it did
[22:54] <schgoddie> MenZa: ah, iĺl try
[22:54] <SteveG> How can I get gcc-4.4 for Ubuntu 9.04?
[22:55] <ikonia> SteveG: is there a package for it ?
[22:55] <MenZa> olabaz: The above error code indicates that a package manager is running elsewhere. Only one is allowed to run at any given point. If one crashes, you can kill it with sudo killall -9 <program name>
[22:55] <SteveG> ikonia: not that I can tell...
[22:55] <SteveG> ikonia: apt-get install gcc gets 4.3
[22:55] <ikonia> SteveG: doesn't look like it's available from the official repo's then
[22:55] <ikonia> SteveG: so that's the package that's available
[22:55] <ikonia> SteveG: it's available in 9.10
[22:56] <olabaz> MenZa: yes but before when I was trying to install irssi and xchat, "sudo apt-get install " would say "cannot find packages"
[22:56] <SteveG> Is 9.04 karmic?
[22:56] <MenZa> olabaz: That makes no sense.
[22:56] <ikonia> SteveG: no
[22:56] <Moster> my ssh connection is unbelievably slow
[22:56] <TheMozart> hi
[22:56] <magn3ts> any ideas for me
[22:56] <ikonia> SteveG: 9.10 is karmic
[22:56] <ikonia> Moster: the common problem for that is lack of reverse dns
[22:56] <TheMozart> magn3ts: whats wrong?
[22:56] <SteveG> ikonia: okay, thanks...
[22:56] <magn3ts> TheMozart, I tried to upgrade to nvidia 195 and now my computer will not boot past "isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards"
[22:57] <SteveG> ikonia: and I suppose a 9.10 pkg won't install on 9.04?
[22:57] <ikonia> SteveG: correct
[22:57] <MenZa> SteveG: It might, but chances are with gcc, you'll run into dependency hell.
[22:57] <TheMozart> magn3ts: have you tried booting older kernel?
[22:57] <magn3ts> TheMozart: actually I take back the last part. if I boot in recovery mode or with silent quiet splash turned off it boots to there. If I boot normally X flicks on then stops
[22:57] <SteveG> MenZa: right, ok
[22:57] <magn3ts> TheMozart: uh not yet
[22:57] <Moster> hmmm...I'm using PuTTY from Vista...and I'm connecting using the IP address not hostname.....any idea if that still holds ?
[22:57] <TheMozart> magn3ts: ok
[22:57] <MenZa> SteveG: http://packages.ubuntu.com -- it's not a *great* idea, but if you need it, you can compare the dependencies for the two different versions.
[22:58] <Etu> Whats the channel for 10.04?
[22:58] <MenZa> SteveG: In fact, I'd recommend against it.
[22:58] <MenZa> Etu: #ubuntu+1
[22:58] <ikonia> Moster: yes
[22:58] <SteveG> MenZa: I'll prob just try to upgrade to 9.10
[22:58] <Etu> thx
[22:58] <MenZa> SteveG: THAT is what I recommend :)
[22:58] <Moster> ikonia: you got any references ?
[22:58] <ikonia> Moster: what do you mean, any references ?
[22:58] <adambuntu> hey guys, can you suggest a .vob to wmv converter?
[22:58] <SteveG> I wish ubuntu would either just stick with the version numbers or the names... I can't keep both straight
[22:58] <ikonia> SteveG: they do, 9.04, 9.10
[22:59] <magn3ts> adambuntu: why on earth do you want to convert to WMV. Also, handbrake or VLC would work well
[22:59] <Moster> should i just google aboubt the reverse DNS being a cause of the slowdown?
[22:59] <Moster> known prob ?
[22:59] <olabaz> i'll be back
[22:59] <ikonia> Moster: it's a common factor in a slow ssh connect
[22:59] <SteveG> ikonia: right, but which one is karma, lucid, dapper, jaunty, etc...
[22:59] <adambuntu> magn3ts, i need to stream from my media center pc upstairs to my xbox. it wont do it now because vob cant be transferred or seen by my x
[22:59] <ikonia> SteveG: 9.04 is jaunty, 9.10 is karmic, 10.04 is lucid
[22:59] <Semitones> hey you know you you can go to places>network> and see windows shares? are there any other programs that do this besides nautillus
[22:59] <sagaci> SteveG: the names are moreso for the development cycle, numbers are for the final releases
[22:59] <magn3ts> adambuntu: do you have a upnp media server picked out?
[23:00] <adambuntu> magn3ts, i am using media center 2005 for it.
[23:00] <magn3ts> adambuntu: but you want to transcode in ubuntu?
[23:00] <magn3ts> seems silly when wmv decoding support is even a rarity in ubuntu, let alone encoding
[23:00] <adambuntu> magn3ts, i am going to set up a virtual with 9.10 and stream it
[23:01] <magn3ts> adambuntu: what? you're using media center 2005 for what? and using ubuntu for what?
[23:01] <magn3ts> adambuntu: just convert the vob -> wmv in windows and cut ubuntu out
[23:01] <adambuntu> magn3ts, media center doesnt have a media server thats free that will do it.
[23:01] <magn3ts> adambuntu: its built into windows dude
[23:02] <adambuntu> magn3ts, and i could do that but i still need a converter
[23:02] <magn3ts> adambuntu: if you're using windows, it will stream to the xbox
[23:02] <adambuntu> magn3ts, not vob
[23:02] <magn3ts> right, but why move the file to ubuntu, convert and then move it back, especially since Handbrake is fast ,available for windows and will likely support wmv in windows
[23:03] <magn3ts> Semitones: you can mount samba shares on the command line, there may even be a gui tool for it
[23:03] <Mononofu> Do you have any idea why my DVI output suddenly stopped working on Ubuntu and during booting? It still works in Windows >.> (currently, I'm using the VGA signal from my DVI port - this is the only way to get video output in ubuntu now)
[23:03] <adambuntu> magn3ts, doesnt handbrake convert to ipod format only really?
[23:03] <magn3ts> adambuntu: no
[23:03] <adambuntu> magn3ts, i will check out handbrake
[23:03] <magn3ts> adambuntu: it only has a default profile for an ipod
[23:03] <Semitones> Magn3ts, thanks, that's half the battle
[23:03] <magn3ts> adambuntu: http://www.google.com/search?q=handbrake+xbox+360&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[23:04] <adambuntu> magn3ts, thanks
[23:04] <magn3ts> Semitones: what do you mean?
[23:04] <Melancholic> hello, all! I have setup vsftpd. allow anon. set chown_upload_mode=0777 but after crating directory can not open it. Could you help me please with configuring vsftpd?
[23:05] <xjiro1> i'm using the nautilus action configuration utility, what do i do for my path/action when i want to do "echo '%M' | xclip" ?
[23:05] <Semitones> magn3ts, I'm not sure what they're called/where they're located
[23:05] <magn3ts> Semitones: oh. uh there are smb explorers. don't know the names of any though
[23:06] <Guest19495> hello
[23:06] <queso> If I'm going to back up wine before attempting to install something that I'm not sure is going to work, is it sufficient to just copy the ~/.wine/ directory?
[23:06] <Guest19495> Should be
[23:06] <Mononofu> yes
[23:06] <queso> Guest19495, Mononofu: Great, thank you :)
[23:06] <RedNifre> I can't access irc.gnome.org server? Why is this? Where can I find a good #gedit channel?
[23:07] <Guest19495> Does anyone know where to get the original creeper worm (1970's)
[23:07] <Guest19495> I want it for a collection
[23:07] <n16h7f0x> can i display an image in console?
[23:08] <RedNifre> Also, why the f*** do the the tiny tray icons (sound, wifi etc.) move to the right of the clock and shutdown menu? I can't move them back since they are unmovable. And I don't want to reset my top bar every time I connect my PC to a TV, since it is very customized. What should I do?
[23:08] <magn3ts> n16h7f0x: cat. :) not graphically
[23:08] <n16h7f0x> grrr
[23:08] <magn3ts> RedNifre: ditch gnome-panel :/
[23:08] <n16h7f0x> and graphycaly?
[23:09] <RedNifre> magn3ts: what would be an alternative? Using KDE? :-/
[23:09] <magn3ts> RedNifre: I only use avant-window-navigator with no gnome-panel
[23:09] <idespinner> RedNifre, with ubuntu, kde isnt really an option...
[23:09] <RedNifre> is gnome.org down, or am I the only one who can't access that server?
[23:10] <evilim> ok, lets try this here.
[23:10] <merlin2049er> hi, i just formatted a new drive using ext4 , how do i get it to mount automatically?
[23:10] <Blackcamaro8> gnome.org is working fine for me, ReNifre.
[23:10] <Mononofu> merlin2049er: create an entry in /etc/fstab
[23:10] <xjiro1> http://downorisitjustme.com/
[23:11] <EvilAIM> So, I have Apache2 up.  I want to change the listenport from port 80 to 85 to bypass my ISP's port blocks.  Once I've done it and restarted apache2, and go to http://localhost:85/ it gives me NOT FOUND.  It's weird, cause the files are still there.  Anyone?
[23:11] <RedNifre> Also, I just found out that Ubuntu's default setting is such that EVERY USER CAN SEE EVERY OTHER USERS HOME DIRECTORY. Why the hell is this? This seems utterly insane to me.
[23:11] <merlin2049er> ok i got the file open
[23:11] <merlin2049er> is there any quick info on adding an entry to fstab
[23:11] <thermionicvalve> 13 hundred and 81 ppl ... oh my !!
[23:12] <EvilAIM> Yes, but none of which are active
[23:12] <EvilAIM> haha
[23:12] <Semitones> !info pyNeighborhoor
[23:12] <jrib> RedNifre: nothing really wrong with it.  Make your home private if you wish to do so
[23:12] <Mononofu> merlin2049er: well, first of all you need to know the devicename of your partition
[23:12] <RedNifre> jrib: I think it should be private by default. Why should other people be able to read my files? What's the reasoning behind this?
[23:13] <OerHeks> EvilAIM, does your provider block incomming ports 1-1024 ?
[23:13] <Mononofu> or the uuid
[23:13] <magn3ts> sigh, another thing ubuntu has changed--- where do the grub cfg files lie?
[23:13] <candyban> magn3ts, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:13] <Sensiva> magn3ts /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/default/grub
[23:13] <MenZa> !grub2 | magn3ts
[23:14] <jrib> RedNifre: the assumption being made by default is people want to share files by default
[23:14] <thermionicvalve> Wissen Sie was " thermionicvalve bebeutet!!
[23:14] <jrib> -default
[23:14] <EvilAIM> OerHeks: negative, but I'm not worried about external, it's the internal that's not working
[23:14] <magn3ts> MenZa: why on earth are grub2 packages versioned as 1.97?
[23:14] <MenZa> magn3ts: I dunno, ask -motu.
[23:14] <rww> ubottu: grub2 | magn3ts
[23:14] <MenZa> rww: love | MenZa
[23:15] <jrib> RedNifre: both are reasonable defaults.  So a choice was made...
[23:15] <magn3ts> Even Windows protects home dirs from each other if the users aren't admins
[23:15] <EvilAIM> I'm thinking that, since I've changed the port... the apache is now looking in another directory instead of var/www.
[23:16] <OerHeks> EvilAIM, did you restart apache, after altering the port number ?
[23:16] <EvilAIM> Yes
[23:16] <MenZa> magn3ts: Then change your /home permissions to 700.
[23:16] <olabaz> so there was a little thing on the panel and I accidentally removed it and I want it back.  It was the thing all the way to the right that gives you options to turn off or log off
[23:16] <MenZa> olabaz: Right-click the panel -> Add to Panel
[23:16] <magn3ts> hopefully its not that way for ubuntu-server
[23:16] <olabaz> MenZa: I'm not sure which one it is
[23:16] <EvilAIM> OerHeks: I just did it again to double check.  Still a NOT FOUND error
[23:16] <rodman1234> Enter text here...how do i uninstall ubuntu
[23:17] <Klurk> Hi everyone
[23:17] <jrib> rodman1234: are you going to install another OS?
[23:17] <MenZa> magn3ts: I can confirm that is, indeed, the case with 9.10-server.
[23:17] <magn3ts> Sensiva: both of those files tell me not to edit them. I'm looking for the menu.lst file
[23:17] <MenZa> magn3ts: See the link ubottu sent you.
[23:17] <magn3ts> MenZa: duh, sorry.
[23:17] <magn3ts> will do
[23:18] <Sensiva> magn3ts menu.lst doesn't exist in grub2, please read the wiki article
[23:18] <MenZa> magn3ts: grub uses a much more sane configuration format now -- you edit a file, then invoke "sudo update-grub" which writes it to the grub file.
[23:18] <rodman1234> can anyone help me please
[23:18] <Sensiva> !grub | magn3ts
[23:18] <magn3ts> :P thanks. I'm reading now
[23:18] <MenZa> magn3ts: The chances of stuff breaking because of a simple misplaced space or whatever is much small this way; I'd assume it validates it and produces an error if the syntax is wrong.
[23:18] <magn3ts> MenZa: makes a lot of sense
[23:18] <Roasted> How do I install murrine GIT? I have a theme on two Karmic machines and one looks bad, the other looks good. The theme needs the Murrine engine. Both have Murrine. Only difference is, synaptic has Murrine-GIT listed in the machine that looks better. Why is that? Where can I get the GIT Murrine??
[23:19] <rodman1234> or reformat the hard drive so i can install xp
[23:20] <EvilAIM> This is fuckin' weird
[23:20] <merlin2049er> should i include any options while mounting the ext4 drive
[23:20] <Semitones> !language | EvilAIM
[23:21] <rodman1234> helpppppppppppppppppppp
[23:21] <RedNifre> OMG: This channel has 42 + 1337 users!
[23:21] <magn3ts> !ask | rodman1234
[23:21] <scivi> merlin if you dont know then probobly no
[23:21] <rodman1234> i did
[23:21] <scivi> is it your first install
[23:21] <EvilAIM> That is REALLY weird
[23:21] <magn3ts> rodman1234: all I see is "or reformat the hard drive so I can install xp"
[23:22] <magn3ts> rodman1234: can you repeat your problem/question. thansk
[23:22] <RedNifre> Still can't connect to gnome.org. It always times out.
[23:22] <rodman1234> need to unistall ubuntu
[23:22] <magn3ts> rodman1234: there's no such thing, just reinstall windows or whatever other OS
[23:22] <RedNifre> Does gnome.org require a special port? (I'm using 6667 by default)
[23:22] <magn3ts> RedNifre: try irc.gimp.org
[23:22] <rodman1234>  no older computer want to install xp
[23:22] <Tiggers> I just installed a PCI wireless network card into my LAMP server and got it to detect using ndiswrapper, but I can't get it to actually connect to the wireless when I do "sudo dhclient wlan2"
[23:23] <RedNifre> magn3ts: That one works and it has a gedit channel. Weird.
[23:23] <rodman1234> then how do i get rid of ubuntu
[23:23] <Semitones> Tiggers, network manager doens't work?
[23:23] <Klurk> I wonder why my cam ins't functionnal with chatroulette, but it's ok with Skype, Cheese and gstreamer-properties ? :/
[23:23] <magn3ts> RedNifre: I joined #gnome earlier and it redirs to irc.gimp.org but it took forever
[23:23] <Klurk> please
[23:24] <magn3ts> Klurk: its flash's fault
[23:24] <magn3ts> right click and change your webcam settings inside of flash
[23:24] <rodman1234> do i just buy another hard drive?
[23:24] <magn3ts> rodman1234: you just install  over ubuntu
[23:24] <Semitones> rodman1234, just install another OS over ubuntu
[23:24] <Tiggers> its a LAMP, no GUI
[23:24] <magn3ts> rodman1234: the OS takes up space on the drive, you just install windows on top of ubuntu
[23:24] <Klurk> magn3ts, huum I see, but it works with a similar website which use multi-videoconference :/
[23:24] <rodman1234> it won't
[23:24] <jrib> rodman1234: it will
[23:25] <rodman1234>  or it just doesn't appear to
[23:25] <magn3ts> Klurk: no idea. by time it gets to flash its not ubuntu's fault
[23:25] <jrib> rodman1234: if you need help installing windows, please visit ##windows
[23:25] <Klurk> magn3ts, Ok thanks for answer me. I hope there will be more open source software for flash in the future :/
[23:26] <magn3ts> Klurk: agreed.
[23:26] <magn3ts> Does X11 still use /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:26] <magn3ts> for displays/
[23:26] <jrib> magn3ts: it doesn't need it, but you can use it if you want
[23:27] <scivi> not unless it needs to
[23:27] <rodman1234> the net framework won't work
[23:27] <magn3ts> jrib: nvidia needs to be using the nvidia driver and it told me to run sudo nvidia-xconfig which writes to xorg.conf
[23:27] <magn3ts> jrib: which file should I specify to use the 'nvidia' driver in?
[23:27] <jrib> magn3ts: just use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers...
[23:28] <jrib> magn3ts: that's the recommended way to install nvidia drivers and will take care of everything for you
[23:28] <magn3ts> jrib can you tell me what file though. I'm using a beta nvidia driver
[23:28] <jrib> magn3ts: xorg.conf
[23:29] <magn3ts> so when I select the binary nvidia driver in jockey, its going to change my xorg.conf file?
[23:29] <rodman1234> someone please tell me what to do i'm going stir crazy lol
[23:29] <magn3ts> rodman1234: what are you talking about?? just reinstall windows. this is not an #ubuntu issue anymore
[23:29] <jrib> magn3ts: yes
[23:29] <magn3ts> jrib: ok :)
[23:30] <chee> hi, what's up.  why would my .Xdefaults settings work fine under gnome but not under wmii?
[23:30] <jrib> chee: xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
[23:30] <rodman1234> i never had windows on it it came with ubuntu and just got the xp cd today
[23:30] <magn3ts> rodman1234: and?
[23:31] <magn3ts> rodman1234: if you install windows from the CD, it has *nothing* to do with ubuntu
[23:31] <jrib> rodman1234: if you want windows, install windows.  It has nothig to do with ubuntu.  When you install windows, it will take care of erasing ubuntu because it overwrites it
[23:31] <chee> jrib: i did that and it didn't change anything
[23:31] <rodman1234> it just sits there in stall mode it seems it says collecting information but does nothing
[23:31] <magn3ts> rodman1234: then call microsoft, not #ubuntu, its a problem with xp or your computer
[23:32] <magn3ts> if the windows install doesn't work, why on earth would you ask here?
[23:32] <chee> jrib: restarted X, works fine on GNOME and not in wmii D:
[23:32] <jrib> rodman1234: for help installing windows, ##windows will help you.  Join that channel and tell them the issues you are having installing windows
[23:32] <chee> jrib: any plans?
[23:32] <jrib> chee: when you query xrdb does it show your changes...?
[23:32] <agdoku> which tool is currently used for software raid? mdadm or dmraid?
[23:32] <digitteknohippie> any ubuntu folk in here from the north of scotland?    just wanna bring to your attention #nos-lug   the north of scotland user group.
[23:33] <wgilthorpe> hello
[23:33] <scott_> ltsp
[23:33] <wgilthorpe> i am new to this so please bear with me
[23:33] <magn3ts> Anyone here running the Nvidia 195 driver
[23:33] <chee> jrib: yes, it does
[23:34] <chee> jrib: no, not on wmii
[23:34] <queso> How can I install Wine 1.1.17 in Jaunty?
[23:34] <jrib> chee: even after you run xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults ?
[23:34] <MenZa> queso: If you go to wine's website, they have repositories for Jaunty.
[23:35] <wgilthorpe> i need help with no sound on ubuntu after suspend/hibernate? I have tried searching the ubuntu forum for the last two weeks and have exhausted all of the fixes that i found and still nothing
[23:35] <Lemontree84> soreau: thx again for the help with the ati stuff, you was absolutly right, in 16bit depth, it worked to tuen on the effects, working perfect
[23:35] <chee> jrib: hang on, the guy i'm acting as proxy for is just logging back into wmii now
[23:35] <soreau> Lemontree84: Cool. Glad I could help ;)
[23:35] <Melancholic> vsftpd informatioon even is absent on the forums!! =(((
[23:36] <magn3ts> why does the recovery console randomly stop when it is booting/
[23:36] <magn3ts> it has done this every single time I try to use it
[23:37] <queso> MenZa: I need version 1.1.17 for Jaunty, but it's not listed in the packages archive. If I install Wine 1.1.17 for Intrepid in Jaunty, will that be bad?
[23:37] <soreau> Lemontree84: For future reference, if you have any trouble with compiz, ask in #compiz and we can better assist you there
[23:37] <MenZa> queso: I wouldn't recommend it, although it *should* work.
[23:37] <g0th> hi
[23:37] <g0th> how do I set up a connection with a manual ip address?
[23:37] <g0th> I have a dhcp server but I would like to always have the same ip address
[23:37] <g0th> eg. because I need to redirect traffic accordingly
[23:37] <g0th> I used the network manager and added a new wired connection
[23:37] <g0th> but there is no option for dhcp with manual ip address
[23:37] <FloodBot1> g0th: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <chee> jrib: he said 'tell him thanks'
[23:38] <chee> haha ;D
[23:38] <queso> MenZa: I need that particular version of Wine, so I guess I'll give it a shot. ;)
[23:38] <Lemontree84> soreau: ah ok, i thougth, ubuntu could be a better choice, but well, now i know for the future, ^^
[23:38] <MenZa> queso: Good luck.
[23:38] <magn3ts> This is infuriating. you'd think that the recovery console would be well tested...
[23:38] <jrib> chee: :)
[23:39] <g0th> hi, how do I set up a connection with a manual ip address? I have a dhcp server but I would like to always have the same ip address eg. because I need to redirect traffic accordingly. I used the network manager and added a new wired connection but there is no option for dhcp with manual ip address. in any case I used the manual option and specified the ip address, netmask and gw, for the dns server I specified the same as the gw, but if I do
[23:39] <wgilthorpe> help please
[23:39] <chee> thanks from me too.
[23:39] <queso> MenZa: Hmm, thx. :)
[23:39] <kurumin> hellou
[23:39] <kurumin> Im Marcus from Brazil
[23:39] <magn3ts> Why would the recovery console stop booting after EDD information not available?
[23:40] <magn3ts> this defeats the point of a recovery console
[23:41] <sabgenton> !vm
[23:41] <g0th> hmm, am I still on mute?
[23:41] <sabgenton> !ubuntu vm
[23:42] <wgilthorpe> can anyone help me with a no sound after hibernate issue
[23:42] <sabgenton> !bot
[23:42] <Lemontree84> soreau: one last short question :P is there a way, to save Vram, instaed of use 16 bit depth instead of 24 depth ? :P
[23:43] <g0th> hi, how do I set up a connection with a manual ip address? I have a dhcp server but I would like to always have the same ip address eg. because I need to redirect traffic accordingly. I used the network manager and added a new wired connection but there is no option for dhcp with manual ip address. in any case I used the manual option and specified the ip address, netmask and gw, for the dns server I specified the same as the gw, but if I do
[23:43] <magn3ts> so since the POS recovery mode doesn't work, how do I proceed?
[23:44] <soreau> Lemontree84: That would be a question better suited for #radeon. My guess would be that you might be able to use XAA rendering method (which can show a performance hit with X server 1.5.x and later) or enable kms (which has a memory manager)
[23:45] <Trek> anyone ever encounter a java applet accepting keyboard input then suddenly ceasing to accept input?  Running most recent SUN JAVA JRE 1.6.*, Ubuntu 9.04
[23:45] <Lemontree84> soreau: ok thx again :P
[23:46] <jcurran> wgilghorple - uninstall pulseaudio and any related packages.
[23:46] <subspider> hi
[23:46] <soreau> Lemontree84: To enable KMS (Kernel Modesetting), load the radeon kernel module with modeset=1 one way of which is to boot with the kernel parameter radeon.modeset=1 (by pressing E at the grub splash screen)
[23:46] <subspider> is these for xubuntu users
[23:46] <jcurran> anyone here familiar with modesetting branch?
[23:46] <subspider> ??
[23:46] <Trek> !xubuntu | subspider
[23:46] <wgilthorpe> jcurran: i already purged and reinstalled as per directions in the forum
[23:47] <ers> Power outage. Just restarted. Running Karmic IIRC.
[23:47] <wgilthorpe> did not help
[23:47] <thermionicvalve> http://zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16197&cat=257&page=1
[23:47] <wgilthorpe> do you mean to leave uninstalled
[23:47] <ers> Startx fails, says kernel module NVidia doesn't exist and it can't find a screen.
[23:48] <zeleftikam> Help: Ubutnu 9.10 fresh install, installed Flash with Synaptic Package Manager, cannot interact with flash media such as the video controls on YouTube, etc. Ideas?
[23:48] <Lemontree84> soreau: kk thx, found it online seems, there are several peeps had same problem
[23:48] <ubuntujenkins> I know how to launch specific programs in a different language but how can I change the os language "on the fly"?
[23:48] <magn3ts> what is going on!!! I went from having X problems to now having GRUB literally refuse to boot anythin
[23:48] <Trek> zeleftikam, make sure you installed flash-plugin as well
[23:48] <magn3ts> it just sits with a blinky cursor!!!
[23:48] <javatexan> how can I tell if a cron job is runnng correctly.  It should print to console but I don't see it in /var/log/syslog
[23:49] <wgilthorpe> zeleftikam: is that the 64 bit version i had the same issue till i reinstalled with i386 version
[23:49] <sabgenton> Isn't there an official ubuntu VM  image?
[23:49] <sabgenton> !download
[23:49] <theking> salut
[23:49] <zeleftikam> wgilthorpe, yes, i am running the 64 bit version. Trek, flashplayer-installer is installed and has run
[23:49] <calebjohnson> anyone have a good resource where I can learn about the linux directory structure? for example what each individual directory is responsible for housing.
[23:49] <theking> bonsoir tous
[23:49] <javatexan> crontab -l gives me # m h  dom mon dow   command
[23:49] <javatexan> 10 * * * * /usr/bin/python /software/pymouse/mousewiggler.py
[23:49] <zeleftikam> calebjohnson, i'd love the same! good question
[23:50] <Trek> zeleftikam, you didn't listen.  I said make sure that flashplayer-plugin is installed]
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !fr | theking
[23:50] <thermionicvalve> France Moves Closer to Unprecedented Internet Regulation : http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,678508,00.html
[23:50] <zeleftikam> Trek, how?
[23:50] <magn3ts> I really really really need some help
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !ot | thermionicvalve
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !ask | magn3ts
[23:50] <Trek> zeleftikam, its an additional package outside of the flashplayer-installer package
[23:50] <wgilthorpe> zeleftikam: i am pretty new but i fought that for a couple of weeks then just went to 32 bit
[23:50] <magn3ts> sebsebseb: I've asked 3 times now. I'm try ing to add urgency by repeating pleas
[23:51] <sebsebseb> magn3ts: oh
[23:51] <sebsebseb> !patience | magn3ts
[23:51] <Halitech> calebjohnson, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
[23:51] <scivi> magn3ts try booting old kernal or dl supergrubdisk
[23:51] <zeleftikam> Trek, the only other flash plugin installer I see in Synaptic is the nonfree one
[23:52] <zeleftikam> wgilthorpe, sucks. seems like a silly reason to have to install a completely different operating system!
[23:52] <Sensiva> magn3ts It seems you have been messing around with your grub confs, would you please use pastebin.com and show me ur files, and tell me what did you do?
[23:53] <magn3ts> scivi: I tried the old kernel, nothing seems to boot
[23:53] <ers> re, tried restarting, didn't help
[23:53] <Trek> zeleftikam: then i don't know what to tell you, because there's a plugin package you need to install for it to incorporate into internet browsers
[23:53] <magn3ts> Sensiva: I never made changes though. It was only to make sure the most recent kernel was in the menu.
[23:53] <joseph_> Who knows about making gnome panel applets, all the stuff I find is really old
[23:53] <magn3ts> Sensiva: also, grub wont boot anything so I can't access my files
[23:53] <wgilthorpe> zeleftikam: mine is on a laptop and the sound quit working every time i closed the lid i could have lived with a faulty flashplayer, but as much as i suspend my lappy i was hoping to fix that prob too.
[23:54] <zeleftikam> Trek, the flash plugin is installed, it displays flash content. but i can't click controls in flash media.
[23:54] <zeleftikam> Trek, when I go to a page that checks my flash version, it says I have 10.0 installed.
[23:54] <magn3ts> Sensiva: well I left my laptop powered off and went to get a Coke and it boots now. X is still broken but I can debug that on my own for a while. never mind my panicky ness
[23:54] <Trek> zeleftikam, then the issue might track back to 64-bit?
[23:55] <zeleftikam> Trek, yes, it does.
[23:55] <scivi> phew magn3ts maybe u should take a break
[23:55] <Sensiva> magn3ts have you changed grub files attributes?
[23:55] <sabgenton> Is there still offical premade VM's for UBUNTU?
[23:55] <magn3ts> I would take a link to chrooting and fixing an ubuntu installation though. Sensiva, no definitely not. I literally cat'ed and greped the grub.cfg file and that was it. I'm going to play with grub.efi later but thats a whole nother basket of snakes
[23:56] <zeleftikam> Trek, I tried this but it did not help: http://www.khattam.info/2009/08/18/solved-flashplugin-controls-not-working-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-alpha-4/
[23:56] <magn3ts> what vm softwarE/
[23:56] <sabgenton> any
[23:56] <Sensiva> lol
[23:56] <sabgenton> I though a few distros back there was  an offical VM image
[23:56] <amartinenco> hello can anybody help me? i cant update my ubuntu i keep getting "Could not download all repository indexes" error
[23:56] <sabgenton> for VMware I thought
[23:56] <Sensiva> You were impatient few minutes ago, now I should never mind?
[23:56] <ers> modprobe doesn't find nvidia
[23:57] <Halitech> amartinenco, can you use pastebin to show us your sources.list file
[23:57] <ers> Do I have to re-build the kernel with nvidia added? How do I do that?
[23:57] <EWR> hi
[23:58] <amartinenco> Halitech, how do i use pastebian?
[23:58] <EWR> why does music sound better on 9.1 than 9.04
[23:58] <g0th> hi, how do I set up a connection with a manual ip address? I have a dhcp server but I would like to always have the same ip address eg. because I need to redirect traffic accordingly. I used the network manager and added a new wired connection but there is no option for dhcp with manual ip address. in any case I used the manual option and specified the ip address, netmask and gw, for the dns server I specified the same as the gw, but if I do
[23:58] <Trek> zeleftikam, you checked the ubuntuforums.org site?
[23:58] <Halitech> !pastebin | amartinenco
[23:58] <Gryllida> Which word processor could you recommend to use for documents with lots of math formulas on Ubuntu?
[23:58] <magn3ts> EWR, uh what?
[23:58] <zeleftikam> Trek, only been using google so far. i'll check out ubuntuforums
[23:58] <ers> Gryllida: LyX
[23:58] <EWR> magn3ts my music SOUNDS better
[23:58] <g0th> Gryllida: no word processor, use latex
[23:59] <EWR> magn3ts i used to get lots of distortions and stuff on 9.04
[23:59] <EWR> magn3tsmaybe it was settings i accidentally changed, but i doubt it
[23:59] <Gryllida> ers, g0th: Supposing that I need to send the files to a user of Windows?
[23:59] <EWR> magn3ts since in Audacious it sounded great, but in Totem is sounded like garbage
[23:59] <g0th> you can convert it to pdf
[23:59] <g0th> latex is just the source format
[23:59] <g0th> it also exists on windows