[00:00] one second [00:00] i might not be correct [00:00] ok thanks :) [00:00] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [00:00] As a Member you will get an email address @ubuntu.com and the right to carry Ubuntu business cards too [00:01] but I dont know if that answers your question on just using the ubuntu logo for your own business [00:01] DasEi My current C drive is 30gb. Can I leave my D drive untouched and install Ubuntu on C. Otherwise I have to copy my entire D drive to external disk and that will quiet some time. [00:01] sorry I cant be of any more help [00:02] Greetings. I have quite an interesting problem. A laptop that has ubuntu installed on it decided to short something and has made the touchpad/keyboard totally unusable. It also has made the USB ports unusable. The computer boots up without issue to the login screen and I can get it on my home network. The problem is I need to get a few files off of it, but there is no remote/SSH configured that I know of. [00:02] Sensiva My current C drive is 30gb. Can I leave my D drive untouched and install Ubuntu on C. Otherwise I have to copy my entire D drive to external disk and that will quiet some time. [00:03] deepocean Are you dual booting with Windows? [00:03] anyone have trouble with Marvell 88E8053 Ethernet on Karmic update? [00:04] witam :) [00:04] Sensiva I will leave windows and access it through VmWare Virtual Box. [00:04] o.O [00:04] Say, is there any program in the repos for defragging a drive? (Trying to do an offline defrag, so it'll run a bit faster) [00:04] deepocean you can't access your current Windows installtion thru VMs software === ryu2 is now known as ryu [00:05] there's not really much of a point of defragmenting an EXT/journaled file systej [00:05] GodfatherofEire: nothing simple and easy, afaik [00:05] Slart, I dont need easy or simple [00:05] deepocean: sry, was away a second, yes can, safest bet is to remove d when installing to c, all c-data will be lost, but didn't you say vbox ? [00:05] Just something that'll do the job, and fast [00:05] anyone have trouble with Marvell 88E8053 Ethernet on Karmic update? [00:05] GodfatherofEire: I once created a script that went through the larger files on the drive and took the most fragmented ones and moved them to another drive and then back.. letting that run for a while helped somewhat.. [00:06] DasEi Sensiva My idea is to install Ubuntu to my current C disk and leave D drive untouched. [00:06] Slart, well, I dont have another drive, and that'd probably just be slower than an on-line defrag [00:06] I have an app that has an icon in the Gnome menu and in the dock, but when I alt+Tab, there is no icon. I am using compiz for the windowing. How can I set the icon? [00:06] GodfatherofEire: it was the only solution I found.. [00:06] deepocean okay, but this will lead to losing your current Windows installation. [00:07] Slart, alright [00:07] Sensiva Yes that is no problem. [00:07] deepocean If I were you, I won't do it [00:07] deepocean: that should work, just make sure c is first drive (bios) as the installer used to install grub to first hd [00:07] Sensiva back data up first? [00:08] :D [00:08] deepocean but the short answer to your question is yes you can install on C and leave D untouched [00:08] Question, is Samba installed by default on Ubuntu 9.10? I would like to access files from other computers on my network, however, they are Windows machines in their own workgroup. [00:08] if you copy all the files over to another filesystem and back, it will defrag it. [00:08] Ok I will back all data up first. [00:09] Beter be safe than sorry [00:09] deepocean not only a data backup, since you are using Ubuntu for the first time, you should have an existing OS installed you are familiar with in case of emergency [00:09] there is also tools to defrag ext2 [00:09] I need help connecting... I upgraded from jaunty, and now my network will not connect... please help [00:09] but you generally don't need to defrag ext2/3/4 filesystems [00:09] GodfatherofEire: the best solution might be to just not fill the drive up fully.. if you leave 10-20% free fragmentation shouldn't be a problem.. unless you do something extreme to your machine [00:10] Greetings. I have quite an interesting problem. A laptop that has ubuntu installed on it decided to short something and has made the touchpad/keyboard totally unusable. It also has made the USB ports unusable. The computer boots up without issue to the login screen and I can get it on my home network. The problem is I need to get a few files off of it, but there is no remote/SSH configured that I know of. [00:11] can anyone help me with...I have a work pc which i installed ubuntu 9.1 I would like to set it up so I can sign in on my network account. the server is a pc. who do I set up the users accounts? [00:11] Sensiva normally I would agree. However this I need to reinstall windows anyway because it is getting very slow again. [00:11] (trying one more time) [00:11] deepocean Back up, then you are good to go [00:12] epitaph: easy, if you got network and another pc running in your subnet [00:12] DasEi: do explain [00:13] (i have both of those) [00:14] epitaph: bootup lappi, sudo apt-get install ssh*, pull down any existing firewall, access from other pc with ssh and ipadress of lappi (ifconfig on lappi tells you), to configure ssh [00:15] right. well I would just do it from the laptop if I could use a keyboard on it [00:15] it won't recognize USB devices, and the keyboard/touchpad on the device do not work [00:15] so unfortunately i'm up a creek [00:15] thanks [00:15] for your suggestion [00:16] I think the only way is to physically remove the hard disk and find something else to put it in === s1ck7e[AFK] is now known as s1ck7e [00:16] epitaph: hm, boot a live cd, check if usb works (thumbdrive) ? [00:16] can't boot the live CD because you have to press a key === con-man_ is now known as con-man [00:16] (yeah, it's madness) [00:17] epitaph: nah, can use knoppix [00:17] that's not exactly going to magically fix the hardware and make it work [00:17] plus, i meant that you have to press a key to tell the laptop to boot off the CD [00:18] epitaph: is what I wonder, sure is physically broken ? checked bios for disabled usb ? [00:18] you can't get into the bios because you can't press any keys [00:18] epitaph: no, the lives wait a time, then continue booting [00:19] epitaph: and no jacks for another console ? my lappy has, mouse, too [00:19] even if you get a live environment to bootup without input, you still can't interact with it [00:19] not on this one unfortunately [00:19] there's network/power/modem/audio/usb/vga [00:19] \o [00:19] hello all, looking for some help w/ installing a dual boot but the live cd not recognizing my hard drive [00:19] epitaph: looks like you will by an usb-enclosure then and put hd in there [00:20] is there any compatibility problem to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? i saw in some forums some people concerning about it..is that true? [00:20] yeah, that's what i was afraid of [00:20] moral of the story: always install ssh/ [00:20] epitaph: or open the other box, if ide/sata isn't the prob then [00:20] other box? [00:20] Ganang: there's a new version of grub in 9.10.. apart from that I think it should be fine.. backups are good though, as always [00:20] I have a quick question. I'm trying to download a 64bit version of Ubuntu, but it only says 32 bit on the download screen? Am I missing something? [00:20] what if you connected another usp keyboard to your broken laptop? [00:21] epitaph: you said you have a working pc around, can try to boot hd there and install ssh [00:21] Wispring: the entire USB host controller seems to be gone [00:21] How do I find out where an app is getting it's icon from? [00:21] well i have lots of PC' [00:21] kim: did you select the 64bit version? [00:21] ok..just a thought heh [00:21] I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone help? [00:21] so that's really what will have to happen [00:21] Slart: thanks, i am not sure if upgrading will solve my problem, my major concern is to get my second monitor working with the open source video card from ATI , anyway thanks... [00:21] Slart: I'm at the download page, it has a green button that says 32bit. I dont see how to change it [00:22] Ganang: oh.. don't know how well ati cards work.. don't have one of those myself [00:22] DasEi: won't the connection for the laptop HDD differ? [00:22] it's most likely IDE [00:22] pata [00:22] kim: click the "alternative download options..." [00:22] ah, thx [00:23] kim: it should show you radio buttons for choosing 9.10 or 8.04, and 32bit or 64bit [00:23] epitaph: it'll prbly be 40 con 2,5 lappi hd, can be attached to standard ide [00:23] it doesn't by default, so I missed it. Thanks for pointing that out [00:23] DasEi: alright, thanks for the help [00:23] !seen alder [00:23] I have no seen command [00:23] Sorry theface. I haven't seen alder around. [00:24] I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help? [00:24] hey [00:24] anyone know how to change the DNS domain name? [00:25] howdy guys, anyone know a really slick way to generate pdf's from a scanner with acrobat pro level quality? [00:25] when I put hostname -d it gives me "server.server" [00:25] fretster: download a pdf printer [00:25] fretster: nope.. there's a distinct lack of good scanning software for linux.. I use a vm to run some windows software when I need to do fancy stuff [00:26] preston_: to create them from a scan? [00:26] fretster: the new ubuntu 10.04 will have "simple-scan" preinstalled, maybe theres already a backport to karmic === zz_FeiRuoWa is now known as FeiRuoWa [00:26] is simple-scan any good? [00:26] fretster: yes, you have to have good scanning software though. If you can guarantee some good software on that end then all you need it a pdf printer [00:27] anythoughts on good scan software? [00:27] fretster: here's a backport for karmic: https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/simple-scan?field.series_filter=karmic [00:27] how can i fix my tv-out display so that the picture of the tv takes up the whole screen? right now it extends past the edges of the screen [00:28] brb [00:28] cnvl: navigate to your screen settings and change the resolution [00:28] I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help? [00:28] i've tried changing between 800x600 and 1024x768, neither option helped [00:28] nice one! I just managed to transfer my ~/.Private from my old machine and get all my setup sorted in one fell swoop :) [00:29] it's an oldish CRT TV, I'm using s-video -> y/c to display to it [00:29] it's PAL-B (or G, can't find the manual) [00:29] preston_: did you install flash player using ubuntu software centre or a download from the adobe site? [00:29] cnvl: are those your only two resolution options? [00:29] hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's [00:30] peskyJ: I tried both, none of them worked [00:30] preston_: no, but the lower resolution options work just as poorly [00:30] and i'd rather have the tv working at least in 800x600 [00:30] Hey all [00:30] preston_: when you used the software centre, did you install the proprietary adobe installer? that one always seems to work for me on different computers [00:31] I'm running into an issue with chroot, one that I'm sure you guys have seen before, Essentially, this guy had the same problem http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122640962523219&w=2 [00:31] \o [00:31] The issue is, with the "fix" suggested: http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122649589117496&w=2 [00:31] \o [00:31] It still allows a user to traverse a directory down and read a list of the users in the directory, which is contrary to what chroot is for [00:31] PeskyJ_:yes I did, it still didn't work [00:32] hey guys [00:32] i need a little help [00:33] PeskyJ: I have also tried different browsers, and nothing changed [00:33] i had tried playing with the TVOverScan setting before I realized that the default 0.0 was the value I wanted [00:35] drat, Evolution doesn't seem to think it's already set up even though I copied the .evolution directory [00:35] hi! [00:35] i have a single question about a problem i am having these days with my iPod shuffle. Since i have installed Exaile 0.3.0.2 in Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i have problems to handle my iPod, Even if i try to do it whether with Rhythmbox or Banshee. I am thinking about a new library that Exaile 0.3 has installed that is making the problem. Could it be? [00:36] i need a solution since i use Ubuntu to handle my iPod and now i have to use my PC at my office with Windows to do so. [00:36] I also have to say that i restored my iPod using iTunes and there my iPod works fine, but when i come back to my Ubuntu my iPod fails. [00:37] I am having a problem with flash player. I am running ubuntu 9.10. I have tried reinstalling both firefox and flash player, but nothing worked. It says they are both working fine, but nothing I can't seem to load any videos or flash applets. Can anyone help? [00:37] mybe something wrong with libgpod? [00:40] hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's file. Im using carwhisperer [00:40] hello! how do I change the permission of my raw file? it is currently holding up as root. I want it to be mine and root's file. Im using carwhisperer [00:41] he === s1ck7e is now known as s1ck7e[AFK] [00:43] how can you spoof ctcp version on pidgin. id rather not be behavior analyzed [00:44] arttra: try: sudo chown file [00:45] hi, I have a file that is a newer version than the one I need. I tried getting my ipod touch working and I installed a repository for some files....It has to do with my gvfs file. I cannot select an ssh file transfer in nautilus anymore. I need to revert to the old file. When select my current file for removal in synaptic it wants to remove all kinds of other packages too. The list of things to be removed are on the last page here: http://ubuntuforums.org/sh [00:45] owthread.php?t=1407610&page=4 [00:46] can someone help me [00:46] am I asking for trouble if I go about removing this then trying to install the older version of the file? [00:46] im trying to start up to programs on start up [00:46] but i cant seem to get them to work [00:46] 1 is deluge the other is gmail notify [00:46] how can I make evolution think it's my old evolution? I've copied .evolution and when I run it it's still going through the set-up process? [00:46] I'm running into an issue with chroot, one that I'm sure you guys have seen before, Essentially, this guy had the same problem http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122640962523219&w=2 [00:46] \o [00:46] to run them in terminal the command is deluge [00:46] The issue is, with the "fix" suggested: http://marc.info/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=122649589117496&w=2 [00:46] \o [00:47] Oh god damn it [00:47] It still allows a user to traverse a directory down and read a list of the users in the directory, which is contrary to what chroot is for [00:47] and gmail-notifier [00:47] Dannyboy: Please stop that. [00:47] i put that in there [00:47] and its not working [00:47] so can anyone help [00:47] yessir [00:47] I hate that domain [00:47] hello [00:47] to me? [00:48] como instalar um arquivo através do código fonte? [00:48] if I am installing an openldap server, when it asks me for hostname what should i put? a single word or mydomain.com [00:48] how do you stop xchat from opening freenode/#ubuntu [00:49] hello, does anyone have any tips for switching from Ubuntu 9.10 to Backtrack 4? [00:49] is there a command to see all mounted drives? [00:50] I am a complete linux noob :( [00:50] conn: mount [00:50] conn fdisk -ls [00:50] try googling it [00:50] !ot|mercy [00:50] mercy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [00:50] conn: df should do the trick [00:51] ok weird, I can get into the cdrom drive via shell [00:51] but not in the gui [00:51] Does anyone know a program that can play a .raw file [00:51] Does anyone know a program that can play a .raw file [00:51] HELLO I NEED LIKE 5 MINUTES OF HELP PLEASE [00:52] Hello, is there a command that I can type into terminal, that will bring up the Compiz Configuration Manager? === jay is now known as Guest23585 [00:53] Anyone know in pidgin, how can you get t to hide messages completely? I have hide message always , but it shows it in a faded dialog still [00:53] open /path === Guest23585 is now known as botnet === botnet is now known as Rtk [00:54] jimi_: ccsm [00:54] Could someone please direct me, or tell me, what linux kernel version Ubuntu 8.08 uses, and then which 9.10 uses please? [00:54] where is sources.list? [00:55] bastid_raZor, what option would that be? [00:55] jimi_: oh.. wrong person Nikyo type ccsm [00:55] oh [00:55] heh [00:55] neezer: /etc/apt/sources.list [00:55] 9.10 uses 2.6.31 [00:56] thanks bastid_raZor [00:56] Thanks Rtk, any thoughts on 8.08? [00:56] Stanto: there is no such thing [00:56] how is the linux support for USB wifi dongles? [00:57] 2.6.24 [00:57] Thanks. [00:57] @tim, 3 dongle worked great for me. [00:58] anyone know about reverting to an older package from one that is installed now? [00:59] mneptok: What makes you say that? [00:59] if I am installing an openldap server, when it asks me for hostname what should i put? a single word or mydomain.com [00:59] Remove the package via Synaptic, then install the old one. [01:00] doolph, nameserver I believe. [01:00] dns.***** [01:00] Rtk, I'm worried about dependencies. the package I want to remove has a LOT of dependencies that are also going to be removed. [01:00] Such as? [01:00] hey guys [01:00] Stanto: ubuntu releases are named after the month they come out which is generally April and October, so it is usually .04 or .10 except for 6.06, which was delayed [01:00] i have a ununtu box, win 7 and an xp. one of my ntfs drives went wacky, chkdsk would not fix it, win explorer would not read it, and yet i copied all the data off with a karmic live cd. i knew this was possible, (thank you linux!) but why exactly is it that win cant read its own stuff as good as linux? be nice to understand that (linux newbie) [01:01] Stanto: 8.08? there was no Ubuntu 8.08. [01:01] trism, mneptok is there a version list? [01:02] It's every 6 months they release, hence why it's always .04 or .10 [01:02] Stanto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [01:02] Rtk, trism, mneptok. Thank you very much. [01:03] Rtk, all kinds of gnome things...gnoem-panel....gvfs, nautilus, rhythmbox, ubuntu-desktop....I have a large list [01:03] what is the default UID and GID in Ubuntu? [01:03] Do not remove ubuntu desktop, seriously. [01:04] why can linux read "broken" ntfs? [01:04] Rtk, I know....that would be really bad, and I'd probably have to reinstall from command line. I know how to do that....I can open synaptic from the command line. The problem is that when I reinstall it will it work properly? [01:04] Any tips for fixing inverted color on a UVC webcam? Google search has been pretty fruitless so far. [01:04] The same also happens with my hauppage card, actually [01:05] I'm not sure. What if you didn't mark for removal instead of complete removal? [01:05] is there a command other than cat that will print contents of a file to the screen without pause? [01:05] is there a way to modify ssh forwards after you've already made your connection? On Windows in putty you can just go change your settings but in Linux with it being a command line I didn' know if it was possible. [01:05] Rtk, I get the same thing if I mark for complete removal. [01:06] hey all having issues opening a .jar file .. any ideas on how to .. i already install sun java 6 [01:06] What program is it? [01:06] carbm1, what do you want to modify? [01:07] carbm1: you can modify the computer you are sshing into, but then when you restart the ssh server in order to make the changes take effect you will get booted. You can then change the settings on putty and log back in. [01:07] chai: for example -L 2222:192.168.2.1:22 when actually I needed -L 2222:192.168.1.1:22 ... as an example [01:07] Ok i made a livecd.iso, but its not bootable. how do i make it bootable? In windows it was just a matter of adding a the boot file from drive c. How do you do this in linux? [01:07] On Putty I don't have to log back in after I change an SSH forward. I just make the change and its automatic. [01:08] teage: any errors? [01:08] On Linux I have to logout, then ssh back in with the changed -L command. I was just wondering if it was possible without having to logout and log back in. [01:08] Rtk, no errors, just says "no bootable media found" [01:08] Did you burn the contents of the .iso or the .iso file? [01:09] Rtk, i checked the files compaired to a iso all ready made and there identical [01:09] carbm1, don't think so [01:09] Rtk, no i did not burn it yet. just tested with vb [01:09] I'm confused, what distro and what burner? [01:09] Thats what I thought. Thought I would ask since I just had a need for it. [01:10] Rtk, ubuntu 9.10 and i made the iso file using k3b [01:10] Was it a unused disk? Btw, Brasero is much better. [01:11] hi people. i got gigabyte 4850hd videocard..it seems like i can't watch hd movies, it's laggy and delayed like hell..Even the .dvdrip movies are displayed shitty when i full screen them.. What to do!? Any codecs i need to install or what? [01:12] /ignore frigg 3 [01:12] Rtk. really? i will try brasero. btw, interesting enough i thought maybe i did something wrong in making the livecd, so just as a test i extracted an already made iso to a file and remade the iso and still, same problem [01:12] nyqvist, install the driver for your graphics card [01:12] I think you're doing it the difficult way, all you need to do is download the .iso and burn. I don't know what you did. [01:13] Also, extracting an .iso? [01:13] which app can I use to convert my PDF files to RTF and vice versa? [01:13] teage you made the iso file? like a custom livecd? [01:14] ksbalaji: can you not just change the file extension? [01:14] nyqvist, you can try installing the ati propietary driver, or the open source [01:14] Rtk, i know, i made a customized version, really the only thing different is the casper files [01:14] chai, yes [01:14] pepee, i installed the ati propietary driver, i'm on it now.. how do i install the open source and where do i find it? [01:15] Rtk, That does not work. I cannot edit such changed files in my OO. moreover, I have a old ver of oo without any pdf import ext. [01:15] nyqvist, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeon [01:15] @teage. Well, I don't think I can help, sorry. I've never done what you're trying to do. [01:16] Did you ask the ubuntu forums? [01:16] pepee, should i uninstall the propietary driver 1st? [01:16] ksbalaji, check this out http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935095 [01:17] nyqvist, hmm good question... [01:17] selamat pagi... [01:17] Rtk, thats ok, i have done this with windows using imageburn. i will see if i can run imageburn under wine and maybe problem solved [01:17] yang indonesia mohon sapa saya.. [01:17] hehehehehe [01:17] nyqvist, for nvidia open source drivers, they DO require that you uninstall proprietary [01:17] thanks chai [01:17] nyqvist, dunno if it applies, but i'd do it just in case [01:17] chai, thanks. [01:18] np [01:18] chai, the question is what should i do 1st.. i don't want to unistall the proprietary driver, it will ask me for reboot and then i won't get my screen to show up.. [01:18] I forget the irc command to direct a comment at a user, anyone? [01:18] ./query nickname [01:18] nyqvist, can you boot in recovery mode, if the driver is uninstalled? [01:19] ./msg nickname [01:19] ./query B|aSS test [01:19] chai, i'm not sure. [01:19] HI. I'm, on 9.04 and I have a question. I'm on a laptop, and when I connect an external display, the panel at the top of my laptop display moves to the external display. How can I keep the panel on my laptop display ? [01:19] without the . [01:19] :P [01:19] Gotcha, thanks. [01:19] :) [01:20] nyqvist, that might work, all you really need is a console to install the open source driver, you could probably do recovery mode then choose netroot [01:20] Am I the only user here not using Ubuntu? Just realized this is Ubuntu irc. [01:20] Rtk, lol. probably. what are you using? [01:20] Arch. [01:20] hi. i have flash installed but none of my browsers (firefox and chrome) seem to be able to use. [01:21] pingya, how did you install flash? [01:21] does anyone have any advice for how to get flash to work? [01:22] pingya, if you've ever installed flashplugin-nonfree, remove it [01:22] rtk, yes i have flash installed... it was working but i think there was an update for it a little while ago and now it isnt [01:22] ok === B|aSS is now known as blass [01:22] i think it is installed [01:22] Go straight to Adobe and download the .deb [01:22] i will remove it [01:22] hi guys. i just installed 9.10 Karmic and if i set my appearance to Normal or better, I can no longer see my desktop background [01:22] chai, look what it have done >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/379450/ [01:22] Rtk, i am running 64bit so the deb wont install [01:23] .rpm is available too. === blass is now known as B|aSS [01:24] hello all [01:24] guys why can't i see my desktop background? [01:24] nyqvist, wow it removed a lot of packages.. is it working now? [01:24] EWR [01:24] using KDE? [01:24] ok, again: [01:25] i have a problem with my iPod in Jaunty [01:25] B|aSS nope GNOME i JUST installed 9.1 [01:25] B|aSS like..15 minutes ago [01:25] mmm [01:25] B|aSS it booted up with a black background [01:25] quick question..i am new to netbook remix have just downloaded a keylogger called LKL and now can not find it anywhere [01:25] i had touched nothing [01:25] never had problem with gnome [01:25] got the latest update? [01:25] m3F whats the problem? [01:26] chai, same sh** :((( [01:26] how do i install flash when using the 64-bit ubuntu? [01:26] josh: open your browser, and find out where files are download too. [01:26] all my prob are on kde gnome just work perfectly [01:26] When i try to manipulate my iPod with Banshee or Exaile or Rhythmbox i have problems and the process fails. It happens since i installed Exaile 0.3.0.2 [01:26] KDE is the worst WM ever. [01:26] B|aSS i can see the desktop if i switch Visual Effects to "non" [01:26] "none" [01:26] nyqvist, you uninstalled the old one, installed the open source one, and rebooted? [01:26] EWR what video card are you using [01:27] ok rtk...even though it is already installed somewhere? [01:27] what distro again? [01:27] fodder_ 9200 se or something never had trouble with 9.04. animations are also slower on 9.10 [01:27] B|aSS : 9.10 karmic [01:27] chai, nope. i will do it now. [01:27] you probably need the drivers for it [01:27] mine is openoffice ver 2.4 in ubuntu hardy. I wish to install oo 3.0 - latest ver, not available in my present repo. How please? [01:28] pingya: normally installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will install a working flash.. [01:28] fodder_last time i tried installing drivers, my pc wouldnt boot properly [01:28] i'd get fuzziness and rainbow colors [01:28] NEVER AGAIN lol [01:28] EWR dunno pal [01:28] EWR, if you don't install drivers, you won't be actually using your graphics card... [01:28] bastid_raZor, i tried to reinstall the restricted extras hoping that it would start to work again but it didn't [01:28] EWR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=034d3ceb8c138f5c1e63577f71ce677b&p=8213877&postcount=11 [01:28] how could i know what is the problem between Ubuntu Jaunty and my iPod? [01:28] chai karmic does all that for you [01:29] m3F, diagnose... what are your symptoms? === Out_Cold is now known as Guest9958 [01:29] karmic is easier than window7 [01:29] EWR other than the correct drivers, i would maybe settle for less gui effects and use the basic video setting [01:29] oops.. [01:29] B|aSS, yea true, but not to the fullest extent of the card [01:29] how do i get the mysql command? i did aptitude install mysql but i still don't have it. is it provided by another package? [01:29] hes 64bit tho [01:30] What's the easiest way to view a client's desktop to help them out? [01:30] im 32 [01:30] pingya: sometimes there are add-ons in firefox that interfere with flash. possibly mv ~/.mozilla/ to ~/.mozilla.old and restart firefox. [01:30] I'm running VIsta, they're running Ubuntu 9.10. [01:30] I just installed GLEST from USS and it runs very slow , why ? [01:30] oh i'm a doofus, sudo aptitude mysql didn't actually install anything [01:30] EWR, if the driver from 'hardware drivers' screws things up, try downloading the driver from the nvidia site, i had similar issues with mine [01:30] @strife: Use remote desktop viewer, it's already installed. [01:30] fodder_ how can i reduce color rez. === Guest9958 is now known as out_cold_ [01:30] Oh === out_cold_ is now known as Out_Cold_ [01:31] m3F, you gotta post a specific problem, or error, or something === katie11 is now known as k]a[tie [01:32] bastid_raZor, thanks, i will try that and see what happens [01:32] I just installed GLEST from USS and it runs very slow , why ? [01:32] ksbalaji: have a look at http://download.openoffice.org/index.html [01:32] pingya: if it doesn't you can simply delete the newly created ~/.mozilla/ and mv ~/.mozilla.old back to ~/.mozilla/ [01:32] I love ubuntu Just wanted to throw that out there. [01:33] quietone, thanks [01:33] @testtube, you don't think it's bloated? [01:33] Specifically the server edition [01:33] Rtk, desktop may be bloated [01:33] It comes with too many pre-installed packages. [01:33] Out_Cold_: chai: when i try to load music to my iPod using Banshee or Rhythmbox the aplication hangs up. [01:33] 25,000 I believe. [01:34] Rtk, then build your own from scratch.. use the minimal/server install [01:34] Nah, Arch & Gentoo are available. [01:34] The minimal/server install is rock solid :P [01:35] Out_Cold_: chai: and it seems to happen since i installed Exaile 0.3.0.2 in Jaunty [01:35] Ubuntu does look great though, just comes with too many programs I don't need. [01:35] Rtk, ubuntu server + fluxbox isn't very bloated ;) [01:35] Fluxbox, yuck. [01:35] Ubuntu server is a great product. [01:35] Rtk, no way there is 25k packages installed maybe like 1200 on a default install [01:35] Rtk, hah to each his own. whats your DE [01:35] I dislike KDE, Gnome & fluxbox very much. [01:36] XFCE. [01:36] Rtk, fluxbox is definitely lighter than XFCE, maybe not as pretty [01:36] kde too fat nowaday [01:36] friends! allow me to share my happiness. I just installed google chrome and was surprised. Flash works excellent! Felt bad that FF,Opera,Konqueror,Epiphany could not perform likewise! Speed also aaah! [01:36] how do i set up a account to login in via smb or ftp from a mac ...i have samba set up and can transfer to mac but i cant log into my ubuntu from my mac [01:36] question of a mount --bind I have set one up for a tmpfs, however the area I have it mounted from is still there. Do these files still get bigger or does it all go to my bind? The bind is setup in fstab [01:36] m3F, i would lean more to it being an issue with exaile. i think it depends on kde libs? [01:37] Fluxbox is very plain. [01:37] Rtk: openbox is plain...er [01:37] Being lightweight isn't a problem, I don't have a 8 year old computer. [01:37] the only problem about gnome is the name [01:37] Yea, I dislike openbox too. [01:37] everything else work just fine === sebastian is now known as mr_crowley [01:37] if you want something smaller then gnome but not flux I'd look at XFCE, very stable [01:37] You was just complaining about things having bloatware :P [01:37] The next version of Gnome looks very impressive though. [01:38] Is ubuntu 10.04 going to have yahoo as the default search engine? [01:38] Hopefully not. [01:38] Out_Cold_: i use, gnome, but i installed and then removed Amarok here. I do not know your point. [01:38] Xfce pretty good true [01:38] How can I set up my Ubuntu computer to be accessed via Remote Desktop over the Internet, rather than just locally? [01:38] Rtk, well. I think they would blow that idea out of the water now that it and M$ have combined [01:39] Strife89, you behind a router? [01:39] chai: Yup. [01:39] Strife89: portforward port 5900 on your router to your internal IP [01:39] question of a mount --bind I have set one up for a tmpfs, however the area I have it mounted from is still there. Do these files still get bigger or does it all go to my bind? The bind is setup in fstab [01:40] Strife89: be sure to set up password required. anyone can log on if you don't set some sort of authentication [01:40] Has anyone used Enlightenment? It's the only one I haven't used. [01:40] bastid_raZor: Will do. [01:40] m3F, it could be that removing/installing the different apps might have removed a library that could cause issues.. maybe purging those applications and reinstalling would fix it [01:40] Rtk: I have very briefly and did not care for it, I use dwm now. [01:41] Hm, it's just that I'm always looking for something better. [01:41] I'm always switching distro's. [01:41] Rtk, well I have used Elive which is enlightenment with compiz [01:41] Strife89, what bastid_raZor said, and also look into dynamic dns if you want a way to connect without usign the current external ip [01:41] Anyone know why Samba complains about not being able to access "usershares", even though I haven't specified anything about them in smb.conf? [01:41] Rtk, elive is fine I prefer gnome [01:41] Ah, compiz is great. [01:41] Rtk: at the start of getting into Linux I distro swapped a lot, I have a TON of live cd's here. But I eventually settled on Arch, and use Debian for server. [01:42] Rtk, elive is not free however so.... [01:42] Since I haven't put anything about them in the config file, I thought maybe it was something that Ubuntu had compiled in by default. [01:42] Hm, I don't want to pay for a distro. I'd rather donate to the project I like. [01:42] Rtk, i think it's when you really get into one distro that you start benefiting greatly [01:42] Rtk: which distro are you saying you would pay for? [01:42] Rtk, then I would stick with ubuntu and install kde gnome lxde and xfce for variations [01:43] Out_Cold_: Agree. Most whole-heartedly. [01:43] Well, I've tried about 20. I love Xubuntu, Mint, DreamLinux & Sabayon. [01:43] Out_Cold_: i purged and reinstalled Banshee and the problem persists. [01:43] Never ever will I use KDE. [01:43] m3F, purge all the music apps you installed and reinstall 1 to start. [01:44] Rtk: I shed a tear when I started up Sabayon I can't believe what they did to Gentoo [01:44] yay for gnome [01:44] I agree, but Sabayon looks so great. [01:44] hey guys, i updated ubuntu and installed the ati restricted driver via the gui and now my display craps out on start. im logged in through the recovery shell. any ideas on how to troubleshoot? [01:45] after restart this is [01:45] Out_Cold_: i will do that, thank you. Will tell you about solution tomorrow, today here is to late. I have to cook :D === sebastian is now known as mr_crowley [01:45] I don't think I'll be 100% satisfied until I make my own from scratch. [01:45] Zack: check your error log for xorg in /var [01:45] m3F, good luck [01:45] thank you Out_Cold_ [01:45] Rtk: LFS is waiting with it's documentation for you [01:45] Rtk, build a gentoo sys then.. [01:45] How can I know where my bluetooth device is mounted? My cellphone that i [01:45] s [01:46] Rtk, true that, i'm about halfway through LFS right now on another system [01:46] jolaren: try just typing mount [01:46] do i need samba 4 to share something [01:46] jolaren, if it's mounted it will be in /mnt or /media [01:46] I think I will use Gentoo eventually. [01:46] !ot > Rtk [01:46] Rtk, please see my private message [01:47] It's just a pain switching distros, I do this once a fortnight. [01:47] if youre not using old hardware Gentoo is great, just enjoy system breaks [01:47] mrpink57 ok so in Xorg.0.log i see that the ati restricted driver is not loading with a 'no screens found' error. is this the right log or am i just seeing the one from my recovery console login [01:47] Anyone having problems with amarok playing mp3's even with codecs installed for it?? Rythembox plays just fine [01:47] how does one go about setting up a VPN? without it taking over all internet communciation just 10.0.0.x communications [01:47] ? [01:47] hello, sometimes building .debs with dpkg-buildpackage fails with the vanilla packages taken from the repositories, I guess this must be because of missing dependencies, is there a way to pull them all for a package ? [01:47] Zack: the log is from what has happened only via error since recovery console did not error it would be from the previous session [01:48] flupke: aptitude build-dep packagenamehere [01:48] I also tried sabayon. Its nice. Unfortunately lacks support like ubuntu. [01:48] nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) [01:48] binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [01:48] blakkheim, great, thanks I'll try [01:48] do i need samba 4 to share something [01:48] kassah, in your firewall rules. also depends on where your firewalls are [01:48] mrpink ok so clearly the restricted driver is crapping out. can you point me in the right direction on how to disable it from the shell? [01:49] Zack: I do not know exactly how it install, I do not know what the name of it is. If you find the name you can do locate or whereis then disable [01:49] mrpink57 oh the other error is PCS database file /etc/ati/amdpcsdb not found [01:49] !ati [01:49] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:50] Out_Cold_, there is a consumer router on both my network and the remote network I'm VPNing to ( the VPN end point is MS Server 2008).. I'm using network manager to connect to the VPN on my desktop [01:50] Can someone try organizing mergers of good OSs? like Sabayon and Ubuntu? (do I make sense?) [01:50] ksbalaji: maybe someone else understand but I do not [01:50] Out_Cold_, however, since they have a normal cable connection their upstream is very limited, so I want the internet traffic to go over the local router instead of thourgh the VPN to their router [01:51] ksbalaji: a place to check out distro's is www.distrowatch.com [01:51] Losha yeah i read that page before jumping on here but it was apparent how to disable from the shell [01:51] Out_Cold_, after connecting to the VPN it appears both connections are still active, my routing table just seems to have been tweaked to send everything over the VPN (besides the VPN itself) [01:51] mrpink57, thanks for responding. [01:51] blakkheim, I had no missing packages, how is that possible that the bots build the .debs from the source packages ? (or maybe it doesn't work that way?) [01:53] Zack: did you do aticonfig? this would setup your xorg (I do not use xorg just hal). [01:53] or maybe the .debs are built by humans ? [01:53] Is this correct? "genisoimage path/to/file to be converted/ path/for/output.iso" [01:53] kassah, it may be possible to forward the different ports to different addresses using iptables or a gui app like fwbuilder. === nekomata is now known as Guest68419 [01:54] Zack: Well, I was thinking that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI talks about the names of deb files used to install the ATI drivers. You could use those same names to uninstall it... === Guest68419 is now known as Bakeneko [01:54] Zack: did you also do do a fglrxinfo? [01:54] Out_Cold_, hmm... I suppose I could do such... just seems overkill for a laptop which doesn't have a constant IP... [01:55] Out_Cold_, looking into the firewalls [01:55] kassah, use those rules on your laptop.. it should work for dhcp.. [01:55] hey guys, i installed ffmpeg (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6963607&postcount=360) but i don't know where i can find the vhook library...can you help me? [01:55] kassah: changing the routing tables to send everything over the vpn is standard practice (and some businesses require it, lest you open a security hole where someone can route packets through your machine into/out of the corporate network. It can be undone, but you should have a good grasp of what you're doing and what the risks are... [01:56] kassah, you want to have your laptop internet using your local router on a 192.168.*.* and have your vpn connection on 10.*.*.* right? [01:56] Out_Cold_, correct [01:57] how are the .debs in the official repositories built ? [01:57] kassah, i'll see what links i can find you.. but yea, forwarding/blocking traffic from each source would probably do what you want [01:57] I don't see TrueCrypt in any of the default repositories. Is it on a repository anyone knows? [01:57] Losha, yeah... I understand this... right now the security on this network is higher than on the remote network. [01:57] nobody know it's very very important [01:58] Losha, also... when you're killing the upload at the remote location with your VPN... there are problems [02:00] kassah: ok, then you should be able to adjust the routing table using the 'route' command. I think you want an explicit route via the vpn for 10.* then a default route via 192 (or vice-versa) [02:00] Losha, correct [02:00] Losha, 192 is the local network 10 is the remote [02:01] kassah: sounds right. Does it work? [02:01] Losha, trying shortly [02:03] mrpink57 Losha hahah. ok so the new thinkpads have switchable graphics with os detection. it switched me back to intel graphics without telling me. :( Once i turned that setting off in the bios everything seems to be working [02:03] not sure ill stick with the ati card though [02:03] heard they are sketchy [02:03] Losha, connected on a different machine here so that I won't get disconnected trying [02:03] Zack: I've had good luck with nvidia and all linuxes, but then, I don't game... [02:04] kassah: best of luck... [02:04] you have to have itunes to view the podcasts videos though? [02:04] wrong chat [02:04] flupke: building good debs is a complex process, one I've never bothered to learn [02:06] anyone use gnome-shell? i'm have some problem... [02:06] help me.. [02:06] at ubuntu 9.10 [02:06] flupke, something like here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 [02:07] Losha so is the consensus proprietary drivers over open (intel)? [02:07] how to use soundconverter in the terminal? [02:07] Clone29: describe your problem. You do know that gnome-shell is still work in progress? [02:08] Losha, http://www.pastebin.ca/1802246 [02:08] Losha, that's from the machine connected to the VPN with all the traffic going over the VPN [02:08] Zack: Sorry, dunno, I haven't followed the politics in decades... [02:09] Zack, for ubuntu... diddn't know there were proprietary drivers for intel graphics [02:09] Ubuntu Netbook Remix. USB installer. Is it also a "live USB"? [02:09] Zack, as far as I know Intel's sponsors open source drivers [02:10] Does anyone here know how to get intel-hda audio cards (for HP laptops) to work in Karmic? [02:10] Whenever I print something in Microsoft Office Powerpoint 2007, I comes out as something that is zoomed in on the powerpoint slide, Help ME!!!!!!!!!!! [02:10] Hello. i am looking for some help with a Logitech S520 keyboard. It works except when xserver is loaded [02:10] ardchoille: okay...i can check this.. [02:10] Losha, wish I understood what the UGH stuff meant [02:10] Johnny1: that sounds like a problem for ##windows [02:10] Johnny1: Yeah, stop using Microsoft software. [02:11] kassah_ yeah i know that was my question. is it usually better go with proprietary drivers or the open source ones [02:11] Zack, depends on the driver and it's state and what you're doing with it [02:11] kassah_: I thought it was U= up, G=gateway, H=host route, but I'm 10 years out of practice with this stuff, sorry... [02:11] Zack, for intel... there really isn't proprietary.... so open source all the way [02:11] hallo anyone,i'm not have wifi driver for DELL 1014..help me to take this drive.. [02:11] ^^ [02:12] I have 3 blank 4 GB flash drives. I need to know the technicalities of Ubuntu Netbook Remix's installer. Does it just wipe the drive and install over it or does it do some kind of partioning? [02:12] Losha, at least you're putting me on the right track =) [02:12] Zack, for nvidia... I use proprietary because i play games... and the 3d there is better for now [02:12] kassah_: man route documents the flags. Wish I remembered this stuff better [02:12] MikeJB, you will only need one of those drives [02:12] kassah_ hehe yes i know there isnt. my laptop has two graphics cards. an ati and an intel [02:12] MikeJB, a two-gig will also work === k]a[tie is now known as katie11 [02:13] Out_Cold_, thanks I'm sure I'll find interesting infos in there [02:13] Dill: It's for a LUG [02:13] MikeJB, but you can use the os before installing it [02:13] Zack, Intel... thanks to Eric Anholt has gotten waaay better lately... but I don't think his latest stuff is in Ubunutu yet [02:13] MikeJB a lug? [02:13] Any Samba experts wanna help me share my printer and folders with my windows machines ? I'm having a hard time and don't know what i'm doing wrong. [02:13] it's not like the good ol' days of 16 floppies to install Netscape 1.0 :P [02:13] How would I go about TRIBOOTING with OSX Leopard, Win7, and Ubuntu? [02:13] Zack, it's in xorg-edgers if you're adventurous =P [02:13] DcMeese: Bootcamp? [02:13] No [02:13] Zack, as for ATI... havn't had one of those in a long time... so no clue there [02:13] I dont have osx [02:13] I have win7 [02:13] You're not allowed to install OS X on other computers. [02:14] Not like the whole "you're not allowed" stops people from jailbreaking iStuff [02:14] I know, it would have to be a hackint0sh [02:14] Zack, ATI I get the impression that it's better proprietary as long as you're not doing multi-monitor... but that was years ago [02:14] DcMeese: as MikeJB hinted, we cannot support that here [02:14] Logitech S520 keyboard. I have legacy USB support enabled, it works in a terminal setting. However, when Xserver is running, i get absolutely nothing from the keyboard. I can post any kind of information that may be needed to get this keyboard working in X. Any suggestions? [02:14] DcMeese: Perhaps go to one of those channels? I have a feeling Ubuntu is easier to get working [02:14] Good evening again. [02:14] oh oh k [02:14] is there a base system iso for ubuntu, kind of like the net inst for debian? [02:14] DcMeese: The Mac part would be the hardest. [02:14] DcMeese: I'd recommend installing Mac OS X via whatever hack method and then installing Ubuntu. [02:14] i know [02:15] Just plan ahead with enough space. [02:15] win7 and ubuntu is easy ive heard [02:15] deepocean How did it go? [02:15] !mini > Albi [02:15] Albi, please see my private message [02:15] DcMeese, yes it is [02:15] Sensiva, It went pretty well I am on ubuntu now. [02:15] * DcMeese is excited about building his computer! [02:15] Losha, ahh... the 0.0.0.0 in there is where it defined the default route... [02:15] gewwwd, feel the magic of the beans :D [02:15] a'sfl [02:15] DcMeese, i have it on my Eee PC 1005ha [02:16] Sensiva, I will play with MS Office tomorrow. If that goes well I am freed from Windows. [02:16] Dill, you triboot? [02:16] Dill: UMBC LUG... I was told to install Ubuntu netbook remix on a bunch of flash drives. So I am. [02:16] For tomorrow... [02:16] I'm using ubuntu 9.10, and I can't figure out how to adjust certain sounds, like cd volume, line in volume, etc.. this bizarre sound thing only has one slider. I'm not used to this at all. are there any better mixers to install? [02:16] kassah_: yes, and it all goes via ppp0. The only other route you have is to the host at 10.0.0.44. I think you need to add a network route to network 10.0.0.0 via 10.0.0.44 for all the 10.* addressess [02:16] DcMeese, dual boot, not triboot [02:16] blakkheim, thanks i know of mini, the problem is that has to download the base system while installing. debian has a mini like that but it also has the netinst which has the base system on the disc [02:16] DcMeese, i would never do that [02:16] deepocean I know its hard to leave MS Office, it will take sometime, but with some effort you will get used to it [02:17] MikeJB, a bunch of flash drives? [02:17] Dill, Im thinking about using VMWare [02:17] but idk [02:17] DcMeese: If I were to triboot, I'd start with a Mac [02:17] Sensiva, I have no choice. I need Visual Basic Scripts. [02:17] I want to change from a 6 gig to a 20 that runs faster. How do I copy one drive to another? [02:17] Hi everybody, I have a issue with my webcam wen I try to use GStreamer for AVrecord, when I use v4l2src it crash and then I can't access, is is some way to restart the driver without reboot the machine? [02:17] DcMeese, i have windows7 and ubuntu on mine [02:17] Just because of legal stuff and getting the Mac OS X to run properly and all. [02:17] errrm [02:17] how do I unmute my micriphone? [02:17] DcMeese: Virtualization would probably be best though. [02:17] If your computer can handle it. [02:17] Depends on your purposes. [02:17] deepocean if wine fails, vbox to go [02:17] this sound controllers stupid ... [02:18] locyaw: Have you checked dmesg and the X log for any interesting messages? [02:18] this is how I live [02:18] Are there any software in ubuntu similar with Homeshare in windows? [02:18] Sensiva, Yes I will use Wine for regular Excel/Word and Vbox for VBA scripting. [02:18] MikeJB: So I should start with OSX, use bootcamp, and then install Ubuntu 9.10? [02:18] kassah_: oops, wrong way round. You need a network route for 192.168.1.0 via 192.168.1.1 (I think) [02:18] soreau, i have checked the X log, but not the dmesg [02:18] Good luck, glad you made it to the free world :D [02:18] Talon_: Try 'alsamixer' in your terminal and use arrow keys for control and M to (un)mute [02:18] any body can help?, my device is /dev/video0 [02:19] DcMeese, ive heard that windows only likes to play in the first partition [02:19] soreau: is there a graphical front-end for it? [02:19] do you think I need to go to GStreamer channel?, because I think that's not related with Gstreamer [02:19] hi [02:20] Talon_: If you right click or double click on your volume icon in the panel I think it will show a frontend [02:20] how i join in spanish ubuntu? [02:20] ! es | patriotaSJ-87 [02:20] !es | patriotaSJ-87 [02:20] patriotaSJ-87: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [02:20] DcMeese: I honestly don't know how to do this. If I wanted every modern OS, virtualization is a lot easier. Plain dual booting is a pain when you need to switch. [02:20] soreau, i am not getting any unusual messages in dmesg either [02:20] patriotaSJ-87 entra a #ubuntu-es [02:20] Tribooting with fancy install method is probably worse. [02:20] dclick does nothing, and right click I get mute or sound preferences, and those preferences are hardly worth a darn [02:20] Talon_: the sound pref gui in 9.04 had more options. I also don't like the 9.10 one. [02:21] Hi everybody, I have a issue with my webcam wen I try to use GStreamer for AVrecord, when I use v4l2src it crash and then I can't access, is is some way to restart the driver without reboot the machine? [02:21] Hello could someone help me with an Internet networking issue? [02:21] locyaw: Can you check 'xev' to see if you get any X events from the keyboard? [02:21] MikeJB: So you dont think I should even /install/ Ubuntu? Use only vm's [02:21] ? [02:21] or Ubuntu only [02:21] DcMeese: Well, VMing under Linux is better. Windows is a processor hog. [02:22] Linux w/ XFCE is the best way to virtualize under a computer that isn't ultra-high-end; I know from experience. [02:22] MikeJB: that sounds promising [02:22] The only CPU usage will be the virtual machine [02:22] soreau, i do not get any events from xev. unless i unplug and plug the receiver back in. but even after that, i get no response from the keyboard [02:22] RuediiX, like what kind of networking? Internet connection sharing? [02:22] icepeda: I'm guessing, but you might be able to rmmod the kernel module and then reload it. Type lsmod to see the kernel modules and see if anything looks likely... [02:22] locyaw: Which terminal does it work in? A tty console or gnome-terminal? [02:23] soreau, tty console [02:23] talon_ When I connect my computer through my router it won't load two sites, but when I connect it straight to the modem it works fine. [02:23] MikeJB, I have an iPhone, so I plan on using the iPhone SDK a little. Thats the only reason I want OSX [02:23] DcMeese, ubuntu won't sync with your iphone [02:24] locyaw: The best i can figure is that you may need to tell X to use the keyboard somehow possibly through an input device section of your X conf [02:24] DcMeese, i'm told you can use and ssh, but i was never able to get it to work [02:24] Talon_ I've heard other complaints on Ubuntu 9.10 on Rhapsody's login site (one of the two sites) however I'm not sure about the other one. [02:24] DcMeese: You could try virtualizing Mac OS X if all you want to do is use one thing. [02:24] As long as your computer can handle it. [02:24] Talon_: a while back someone here reverted to the 9.04 sound prefs. I kept a note that they used https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa. Maybe that will help [02:24] RuediiX: odd. Always the same 2 sites? Or different ones? [02:24] Dill, oh yeah lol. So I think I'll probly go with partitioning for Ubuntu and Win7 and VMing OSX. [02:25] Losha Always the same 2 sites, the Rhapsody login server and Linuxtracker.org [02:25] Losha: How can I remove and reload the module? [02:25] soreau, okay. im not sure how relevant it would be, but i have seen a few threads about this combo where the mouse is being read as a keyboard, i have have two mice showing up when i should only have one [02:25] MikeJB DcMeese: As I stated earlier, we cannot provide support for installing OSX on anything, including VM, as it's a copyright violation. Probably should go to another network altogether [02:25] DcMeese, that's why i have win7 and ubuntu dual-booted. that way i can sync my itouch and blackberry in windows and run everything else in ubuntu === z is now known as Guest9062 [02:25] Losha: Linuxtracker.org I got permission to diagnose, and I can't access any ports on it through the router, but I can access it just fine through my cable modem. [02:25] DcMeese, i can also wirelessly transfer files with my other windows pc's [02:26] ardchoille: Didn't know about the virtualization thing... [02:26] Losha: How can I remove and reload the module?, I see some video modules and one is v4l2, if I remove it how can I reload it? [02:26] Dill, Yeah thats what ill probly do. Thanks. Better leave before Im banned for discussing VMing OSX lol [02:26] But I was wondering how you'd get a Mac OS X *install* CD, aren't they all *update* CDs? [02:26] So yeah, if you're talking about illegal CDs... [02:26] Not here. [02:26] locyaw: That sounds to me like X is getting confused because it's not familiar with this keyboard possibly.. I would like to think you can set it straight in xorg.conf somehow [02:27] icepeda: You can try: sudo rmmod v4l2 ; sudo modprobe v4l2 but the exact commands vary from one release to another.... [02:27] soreau, okay. i will take a look and see if i can figure that out. thank you very much for the help [02:27] Dill: Does Ubuntu Netbook Remix wipe the flash drive or just partition it? [02:27] How do you get ureadahead to reprofile (?) [02:27] Losha, I think I figured it out... in the VPN config, under the IPv4 Settings, Routes Button, I selected "Use this connection only for resources on its network" then added a route Address 10.0.0.0 subnet mask 255.255.255.0 with blank gateway and metric =) [02:27] MikeJB, isn't linux and mac osx all built on the same kernel? that means that they are more or less the same when you get to the bare bones [02:27] Losha, seems to have worked! [02:27] MikeJB, it gives you three options: [02:28] kassah_: very cool. Peek at the routing table to see what it did, if you like... [02:28] Dill: Mac OS X is built on FreeBSD kernel, iirc [02:28] a forked version probably. [02:28] MikeJB, 1 - you can run it off of the usb drive before you load it [02:29] QUESTION: Can I copy this working hard drive of Ubuntu to another (larger) hard drive (that is also faster)? [02:29] locyaw: In case it's of any help, try 'man xorg.conf' and see the InputDevice section [02:29] MikeJB, 2- you can partition the drive with whatever you have and ubuntu (this was a little tricky and i can go into more details later) [02:29] RuediiX: can you ping linuxtracker.org through the router. What if you use the ip address to surf to it instead of by name? [02:29] Losha, yeah... that table is what allowed me to figure it out.. thanks =) [02:29] MikeJB, 3 - you can format completely wipe and load [02:29] bobg, mm I have never tried that ...usually I just clean install onto the new harddrive [02:29] Dill: I'm asking about the flash drives I'm putting the installer on, sorry for ambiguity. I blame the English language when wording-confusion happens. [02:30] MikeJB, that's fine [02:30] soreau, thanks. ill take a look at that as well [02:30] MikeJB, it should all work on one 2 GB flash drive [02:30] MikeJB, but i would use the full version and not the NBR [02:30] Dill: You said it only needs 2 GB. These are 4 GB... so what happens to the other 2? [02:30] coz_ That is where the problem started. I tried that and have issues with Audacity. I've been on their forum with no results [02:30] MikeJB, they just aren't use [02:30] tell losha nope, on either. I've done serious diagnostics. [02:30] How do you force ureadahead to retrace at next boot? [02:31] hello all [02:31] bobg, audacity problems>>. mmm I dont use audacity recnetly let me see if i have it installed [02:31] bobg: in general, you can copy drives. Do you know what partitions you have on the source drive? [02:31] MikeJB, just follow the directions and create the live USB with the .iso file [02:31] Losha: anyways I'm going to try to run through the router with a version before Karmic on a LiveCD to see what happens. [02:31] Dill: Well, this is for the LUG Installfest tomorrow. In case anyone brings a netbook. [02:31] MikeJB, that's cool [02:31] Thus the three flash drives. [02:31] Losha: I'll also try my Karmic LiveCD which may not have the firewall installed. [02:31] sex [02:31] chao moi nguoi ,co ai VN o Nha Trang ko [02:31] Losha: Ok, let me try becuase now, it doesn't crash :P [02:32] MikeJB, then you can repeat the process for all three drives [02:32] MikeJB, you can also burn it to a cd [02:32] RuediiX: it can't hurt, but I suspect the problem is on the router, not the linux host. [02:32] Losha: A friend gave me this drive with Mandrake on it a few years ago, I loaded "intrepid" and it's upgraded to Karmic [02:32] barcode: sex: Command not found. [02:33] D: [02:33] Why can I not install "Microsofts Core Fonts" from Ubuntu software installer. It says: Not available in the current data [02:33] MikeJB, do you need help with any of this? [02:33] Dill: Someone else is doing the CDs. This is for netbooks, which don't have CDs. [02:33] or Macbook Airs? :P [02:33] because microsoft [02:33] bobg: open a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l, then paste the output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com [02:33] MikeJB, okay [02:33] Losha: bash: sex: who you want to sex? [02:34] Dill: Though now that you bring it up, maybe I should make one of the flash drives have Ubuntu regular just in case. [02:34] any idea where I can start to study about kernel?, I mean, I would like to be involved with kernel and device drivers [02:34] MikeJB, yeah. the NBR was annoying [02:34] How in the world do you disable gdm in Karmic? [02:34] any good book or web page for beginners? [02:34] update-rc.d -f gdm remove [02:35] doesn't work [02:35] locyaw: Another thing I am thinking, since it works in tty, maybe you just need to set it correctly in gnome-keyboard-properties [02:35] icepeda: there are books written on the linux kernel. It's a large^H^H^H^H^H huge learning curve... [02:36] Losha: I'm not that familiar with terminal......will that "post it" on that website, and then will I have to download it? [02:36] MikeJB, the NBR doesn't give you a desktop to work with and you have to use these odd side tabs for the menus [02:36] soreau, I have tried that, and that didn't help either [02:36] remember everyone google is your best friend many of the questions asked on here are out there on the web explained in most detail and can save the people helping here so much time and they can move on to more serious things that hjave not yet been answered [02:37] i need help port forwarding [02:37] i need help with a mouse problem. can't left click [02:37] asdf1: sure, i've got a helpful link for you to cl- oh wait [02:37] just installed ubuntu on this laptop, and i managed one click before it stopped working [02:37] Dill: "I'm just following orders." I wouldn't have chosen 64-bit for the regular Ubuntu install if I were staging this event, either. [02:37] Losha: what is the best book you ever see about kernel?, I know kerner is HUGE but I would like to learn, I already saw couple about kernel and device drivers, are from O'really [02:37] soreau, i did just notice in my xorg log two lines: PreInit returned NULL for "Logitech USB Receiver" and "config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)" [02:38] bobg: you run the command 'sudo fdisk -l' in the terminal, then browse to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com and cut&paste the text into the web page. Nothing gets posted until you hit 'send' on the web page. [02:38] Dill: Though maybe NBR would be good for iPads? Does it multitask and provide flash? [02:38] blakkheim, heh [02:38] PLS HELP [02:38] carlll: portforward.com [02:38] blakkheim, the right click and scroll wheel work [02:38] MikeJB, no ubuntu "provides" flash, but it can handle it (sort of) [02:38] MikeJB, ubuntu is a more linear os and doesn't handle flash very well [02:38] blakkheim, and i'm fairly handy with the keyboard, so i can manage, but the mouse needs fixing [02:39] asdf1: does it work on a livecd/different os? [02:39] Losha: I give it a try later tonight........thanks [02:39] MikeJB, there are a few apps you can use to do flash, but it isn't optimal [02:39] hi, all [02:39] i am a new guy here. i tried to get cacti-plugin-0.8.7e-PA-v2.5.zip from http://mirror.cactiusers.org and http://www.cactiusers.org, however, it's not available anymore. and could you email cacti-plugin-0.8.7e-PA-v2.5.zip, monitor.tar.gz, settings.tar.gz and thold.tar.gz to me? [02:39] MikeJB, but all ubuntu multitasks [02:39] shenzhong__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:39] blakkheim, same thing on live disc [02:39] Dill: Flash *does* make a computer fan like nothing else except for Vista. [02:39] asdf1: you sure it's not the actual mouse that's the problem then? [02:39] If there's one thing I liked about the iPad was lack of flash. [02:40] blakkheim, i thought it was doing the same thing in windows, but apparently not. upgrading ubuntu hasn't fixed the prob though [02:40] Losha: the v4l2 doesn't crash this time (strange), I swear I was :S:P I will come back to you when it does again [02:40] MikeJB, true. I like flash, which is another reason i have win7 on one partition and ubuntu on another [02:40] blakkheim, yep. tried a different mouse, and the buttons on the touchpad are the same way [02:40] Losha: the v4l2 doesn't crash this time (strange), I swear it was :S:P I will come back to you when it does again :P [02:40] icepeda: It's just like taking your car into the garage :-) [02:40] Linux with flash is still faster than Windows just starting to boot :P [02:41] Losha: hahaha, good one :P [02:41] Anyone installed ms core fonts? [02:41] icepeda: may I pm you? [02:42] deepocean, i have... why? [02:42] well I just learned that if you have 2 drives mirrored with nvidia raid, and turn off the raid in the bios, it's not off as far as the ubuntu installer is concerned. It *will* do the install over both the drives as if mirror is still on... [02:42] Hi. I'm looking for someone to help me move my home partition to an alternative partition and encrypt it in karmic. [02:42] Losha: pm?, I don't know what pm is :S [02:42] MikeJB, but loading ubuntu is a snap. when you put the usb drive in it boots to ubuntu, but with an icon on the desktop [02:42] icepeda: private chat (message) [02:42] MikeJB, this icon gives you the option to start the loading process === mac9416_ is now known as mac9416 [02:43] Losha: sure [02:43] MikeJB, but before you load anything you are allowed to play around in ubuntu to make sure you want it on your computer. [02:43] is there a video repair software? one of my movie file can not be played at the last few minutes? [02:43] magn3ts, you can use usermod in terminal to move/change home dir [02:44] MikeJB, after you are done messing around, and you start the loading process, it guides you through your languages and whatnot (standard os loading procedures) [02:44] asdf1, I installed them but I cannot find them in for exampel FireFox [02:44] asdf1, how does that work with encryption [02:44] MikeJB, then it asks how you will want to load ubuntu: partition your drive half and half, a custom partition, or a full wipe and load of ubuntu [02:44] deepocean, using linux firefox, or windows firefox? [02:44] magn3ts, not sure [02:45] magn3ts, i imagine you can move/change it then use truecrypt [02:45] er [02:45] mebbe not that since it's your home dir [02:46] anyone have any idea why the left click on the mouse and trackpad on this laptop might not be working? need to fix [02:46] anyone get an idea about my question? [02:46] asdf1, Linux Ubuntu [02:46] deepocean, hmm? [02:46] hello? [02:46] deepocean, oh, linux version of firefox [02:47] asdf1, go into preferances / mouse / and check your settings [02:47] deepocean, well, they're for windows apps. you'd find them in the windows version methinks [02:47] ouyes: what format is your video in? [02:47] asdf1, uh, dm-crypt and truecrypt aren't compatible >_> [02:48] I am wondering if any had got something called "Distribution updates" through the update manager in Ubuntu 9.04? [02:48] ouyes, whats wrong didn't read up [02:48] should I get 30 "New Installs" when running the updater? [02:49] hiexpo, checked settings. fixed a couple. no help. :( [02:49] kilrae, sure soimetimes [02:49] I am trying the jboss server using the *nohup* command.. If i do ./run.sh , it is OK running.. But if i nohup ./run.sh.. the nohup command just remains there , as if though it is hung.. It just displays *nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'* and hangs there.. Any ideas or hints [02:49] is there a video repair software? one of my movie file can not be played at the last few minutes? [02:49] newuser20, that means a new release of ubuntu has been released [02:49] it looks like something is requiring build-essentials, i don't plan on compiling anything on that computer [02:50] ouyes, not that i know of [02:50] newuser20, ubuntu is a 'distribution' of linux [02:50] newuser20, yeah. the chrome update installed some extra packages [02:50] asdf1, have you tried rebooting the system ? [02:50] newuser20, i assume that you have chrome installed on your system [02:50] ouyes, i find vlc is very good with damaged videos [02:51] hiexpo, has persisted across a dist-upgrade, so yes [02:51] yeah, have chrome. sorry for being slow [02:51] am a slow typer [02:51] Losha, hiexpo asdf1 .rmvb [02:51] these updates were bellow the normal security updates and made me wonder if I need them [02:51] ouyes, muh? [02:52] the format of the video [02:52] newuser20: it seems to be because they moved a dependency in chrome from lsb-base to lsb, hopefully they will fix it, I certainly don't want all those extra packages [02:52] some of the updates were listed as "alien, bsd-mailx, build-essential". should I install them [02:53] newuser20, yeah. you get the "Distribution updates" section every time a new package or packages are going to be installed. or when there is a major version change on a package that is going to be updated. [02:53] ouyes, oh. still, vlc is very good for continuing through corrupt places [02:54] newuser20, alien is for converting rpm packages ,and yes to build essentials [02:54] newuser20, chrome seems to need them. at least for now. === ubuntu__ is now known as Bash23 [02:54] newuser20: there is a thread about it here http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=13907a5a6c537d10&hl=en I'm waiting to update until someone responds [02:54] Hey guys, I need help. I'm trying to reinstall Grub and it wont work. [02:54] ouyes: it's a proprietary format. Googling 'rmvb repair' gives a few hits, but they are all windows programs. I'd be very surprised if you found am equivalent linux program. Also, if there are *minutes* missing from the end, it may be too big a gap to be reparable anyway.... [02:54] no help for my mouse? if this can't be fixed soon, ubuntu will have to be abandoned for windows [02:54] I tried doing this [02:54] http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 [02:54] okay, thank you all for the info. is this chat open all of the time? [02:55] newuser20, yep [02:55] newuser20, yeap [02:55] can someone take a look at this pastebin I am trying to make sure I have bound uzbl cache right, and my /tmp folder is now a tmpfs system http://pastebin.com/d19eb6b12 [02:55] newuser20, alien is for converting rpm packages ,and yes to build essentials [02:55] Losha, thanks [02:55] oops lol [02:55] 24/7 [02:55] nm === brian_ is now known as System-7 [02:56] ouyes, Losha most windows apps will run fine anyway [02:56] asdf1: I don't see how you can make that claim. It's not even true on windows... [02:56] okay, thank you again all. Bye. [02:56] asdf1, it is not the case of mine, it can not be played in window now, [02:56] Losha, lol [02:57] bye! [02:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZoFIqvLhZQ === Saint_laptop is now known as Sa[i]nT [02:58] barcode: please stay on topic... [02:58] omfg [02:58] i keep typing in the wrong window [02:59] ill leave :P later [02:59] i'm setting up vnc on 9.10. It works fine within my network, but i can't connect to it via my public IP. I think maybe it has to do with setting a public key, but i'm not sure how or where the file is to do so. [03:01] i really need some help for this mouse problem. i've set up this laptop for someone and if she can't click her mouse she's obviously not gonna keep ubuntu [03:01] ripdisk: much more likely that incoming connections are blocked coming from the internet (if they aren't, they should be). Is there a firewall of some kind stopping incoming connection requests? [03:01] quick question: My laptop brightness keys are wonky, but I don't know which package to file it against [03:01] anyone? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:02] asdf1, tried a different mouse? [03:02] kareeser, yep [03:02] asdf1: heh, thought I'd ask. [03:02] kareeser, and it's the same with the buttons on the touchpad [03:02] losha: it's a fresh ubuntu install. i don't think there is a firewall. my router has been set up to foward 5900 to that box.. [03:03] kareeser, mhm. sensible question. at least you asked. :) [03:03] asdf1: did you do an md5sum on the cd image and the burnt CD prior to installation? [03:03] asdf1, unplug the current mouse and reboot and see if the mouse pad than works [03:03] asdf1: also - try hiexpo's suggestion :P [03:03] kareeser, no, but i'm pretty sure it's fine [03:03] ripdisk: sounds good. What client are you using to connect? [03:03] hiexpo, hm. i haven't tried precisely that, but this has persisted across a distro upgrade [03:04] losha: tight vnc on window 7. but the thing is, i can conect just fine when i use my network IP [03:04] but not my public IP [03:04] oh, btw. it's an old ibm thinkpad if that helps anyone [03:04] hey guys, where can I find the source for window list applet? [03:05] isolat3dsh33p, check their home page? check [03:05] *check About [03:05] everytime someone does a dist upgrade something crashes it is just eiseier to download whatya want and inbstall fresh [03:05] kareeser, hiexpo, ok gonna try the reboot [03:05] kool [03:05] good luck [03:05] how do get yahoo chat [03:06] asdf1, not given. :( [03:06] ripdisk: um, does tight vnc on window 7 have any debugging you can turn on. It's obviously not a server issue... [03:06] Yay Pidgin has an Ubuntu version :D [03:06] vipjerrys, pidgin [03:06] vipjerrys: you can you use another client , IE Kopete or Pidgin [03:06] hiexpo: I always install fresh. Fewer problems... [03:07] absolutely [03:07] losha: no. [03:07] i can't find a client that's any good for windows [03:07] it sucks [03:07] but i don't think it's the clients problem [03:08] it works fine within the network [03:08] ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:08] kareeser, hiexpo, ok, i'm not sure if it's that or something else i did, but i can click again! woot [03:08] asdf1: glad to hear it [03:08] i may have just needed a reboot from something else i did [03:08] it was a conflict [03:08] indeed [03:08] yeah [03:08] ripdisk: ok, on the server, please run 'netstat -an | egrep 590' so we can see which port the server is listening on [03:08] maybe [03:09] because when you did the dist upgrade in downloaded drivers for both devices and than became confused on what to use so killed them both [03:09] thanks alot. good day [03:10] Hey guys [03:10] kool your welcome [03:11] Can somebody answer a question real quick for me? [03:11] !ask | phil [03:11] phil: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:11] So I have Ubuntu as a dual boot via the windows installer.... is there a way to access files on the other OS? Basically, can I access music on Vista when im using Ubuntu? [03:11] I have a huge music collection that I cant really take off of vista in order to re-put it on Ubuntu [03:12] yeah [03:12] mount the windows volume [03:12] phil, yeah, just make sure ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs are installed [03:12] phil: if your windows system uses ntfs, you can mount the windows partitions and read/write them. It's not so easy going the other way though... [03:12] phil: just click on the drive from the places menu [03:14] I see Filesystem and CD/DVD Drive here [03:14] phil: click filesystem [03:14] phil: windows partition, voila [03:14] yea theres no "windows partition" [03:15] phil, install ntfs-config. System>Administration>Synaptic Package manager [03:15] In the search bar, type ntfs-config [03:15] Once it's installed, run it, and enabling NTFS drivers is point and click from there [03:16] drives* [03:16] ok will do... ill keep you posted [03:16] thx [03:17] phil: while you're at it, make sure ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs is installed too [03:18] Losha, i need help now! D: [03:18] ntfsprogs is handy to have also. Ntfs-config depends on ntfs-3g, that will be installed automatically [03:18] i accidently removed the wireless network widget , how do i connect to the internet now :( [03:19] barcode_: in the panel? [03:19] Sagaci, yeah its not there anymore :( [03:19] installed the stuff, opened the config, and the "internal" was greyed out, but "external" i checked. still no windows in File System.... think it might not work because there are no seperate partitions? XD [03:20] !resetpanel | barcode_ [03:20] phil: try sudo fdisk -l and then paste output to a pastebin [03:21] phil: are you telling us you're running a wubi install? [03:21] phil: or try rebooting [03:21] !resetpanel | barcode [03:21] its not working :3 [03:21] phil: did you shutdown windows properly? [03:21] !resetpanel [03:21] barcode: The bot is not here right now [03:21] Sagaci: ^^ [03:21] ubottu on holiday man [03:21] where did the bot go! [03:21] i never had to make a seperate partition... i downloaded a single file from Ubuntu site and it did eveything automatically [03:22] Is it possible for my bluetooth keyboard to bring my computer out of standby? [03:22] phil: sounds like wubi [03:22] how do i reset it? :P [03:22] barcode: Have you tried right clicking on the panel and going to 'add to panel' and trying to add the network manager applet back? [03:22] im on ubuntu-netbook-remix :/ [03:22] it doesnt give me that option [03:22] phil: apart from this inconvenience, do you like ubuntu [03:22] barcode, please see my private message [03:22] I have the bt dongle plugged in and paired and the BIOS says that USB devices can bring the system out of standby....but once it goes in standby my keyboard keeps flashing "no connection" [03:22] To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [03:23] I would make it my default OS if it could play "real" games (hardcore gamer here) [03:23] i love it [03:23] losha [03:23] are you still here? [03:24] ripdisk: I am. You'll have to remind me what we were talking about though... [03:24] phil: well you could confirm it that you run wubi, then maybe you could delete ubuntu out of windows (assuming you used Wubi) then properly install it as a dual boot on separate partitions [03:24] losha: vnc [03:24] sorry, i'm cookng dinner too.. while trying to fix vnc [03:24] ripdisk: oh right. Did you ever run that netstat command? [03:24] but anywhoo [03:24] yeah it didn't do anything [03:24] how would I go about deleting it off of vista? ( I want to give it a bigger portion of my hard drive anyways) [03:24] i reset the panel, the wireless app still isnt there :( [03:25] phil: what's your hdd size [03:25] barcode: Did you try restarting the panel? [03:25] yes sir [03:25] billy@1337h4x:~/.ssh$ netstat -an | egrep 590 [03:25] billy@1337h4x:~/.ssh$ [03:25] barcode: How did you restart the panel? [03:25] this one is.... i think over 100.... i have 60 gb left, gonna give it 40 gb to Ubuntu [03:25] my main pc is 2 TB [03:25] soreau: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel [03:25] barcode: That does not restart your panel [03:25] ripdisk: run it again please, just to make sure, but drop the trailing zero netstat -an | egrep 59 [03:25] phil: ubuntu really only needs say 20gb, and that's still quite a bit [03:26] how do i restart it then D: === Guest31627 is now known as Sensiva [03:26] barcode: That resets your panels settings back to default. To restart it, do 'killall gnome-panel' [03:26] Ubuntu only requires 4gig [03:26] they recommend at least 8GB [03:26] soreau, i just restarted it still, nothing [03:26] diss3ntive: yeah but using it as a desktop main machine, need room for files, etc [03:27] gotcha, so 20 should be plenty? [03:27] yea, that was just the min specs, 20 is more than what it wants...so anything past 8 is for your files, etc [03:27] 64k should be enough for everyone [03:27] phil: yeah, definitely, and if you need the same file in Vista, you can just drop it in [03:27] Losha: IT worked but i don't see the port i'm looking for. let me make sure it's running still... [03:27] okay so my laptop ran entirely out of juice, and now I can't boot an xfce session :( [03:28] k. and how would I go about uninstalling Ubuntu from vista? [03:28] ripdisk: ok, standing by [03:28] I missed the && killall gnome-panel [03:28] phil: well if it was a wubi install, it should be located as a folder in c:/ [03:28] :/ [03:28] how can I reset everything about my xfce session? [03:28] someone correct me if wrong [03:28] yeah losha, it was off [03:28] turned it back on [03:28] let me runt he command again [03:29] gotcha... ill have to take a look when im on vista... gonna write this all down [03:29] barcode: Did you get any interesting messages when you ran that command from your terminal? [03:29] it should be just a folder in my C:/ drive? I should just delete that and should be good? [03:29] spreau: nope [03:29] soreau* [03:29] losha: i did egrep 5900 and this showed up [03:29] phil: take it slowly and it'd be good to have another pc on internet to make sure you have help if you get lost [03:29] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5900 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN [03:30] phil: yeah that's what wubi does, doesn't partition, just puts it as a folder in your windows drive [03:30] I copied the files from the .iso to the flash drive, but it doesn't boot from it. [03:30] barcode: and to clarify, everything on your panel is there except the network manager applet? [03:30] ripdisk: ok, and you told me you forwarded port 5900 from the router, so try to connect again from the outside... [03:30] So I can't make a bootable flash drive the easy way? [03:30] phil: you'll see a performance increase too having it as a native install [03:30] soreau: yes sir [03:30] losha: ok. [03:30] ok cool... im gonna go check and see if I can find this folder... ill be back in a few [03:30] failed to connect to server, losha [03:30] barcode: Do you recall what you did that removed it? [03:30] MikeJB, copied as in copied data? or used unetbootin [03:31] Copied all the data in the .iso [03:31] MikeJB, that won't work. [03:31] hello [03:31] bazhang: I know. That's why I'm here. [03:31] !ask [03:31] phil: scroll down and do it their way http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php [03:31] MikeJB, use unetbootin to do it [03:31] soreau: i downloaded something from the ubuntu software center and it was like "automatically connect without the wireless app in the tool bar" or something [03:31] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:32] anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? [03:32] ripdisk: ok, run netstat again to check the server didn't die again... [03:32] already did [03:32] barcode, did you download wicd [03:32] and it did not [03:32] barcode: Is there any output from 'ps ax|grep nm-applet|grep -v grep'? [03:32] anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? [03:32] ripdisk: running out of ideas. Check the forwarding config on the router? [03:32] hiexpo: no soreau: nope [03:32] barcode: From Alt+F2 run dialog, run 'nm-applet' [03:32] i have [03:32] hundreds of times [03:33] ureadahead is not working since the kernel I built doesn't have the module, but ureadahead depends on ubuntu-desktop [03:33] bazhang: Thanks, would have never even *thought* to have looked for a name like that. [03:33] should I just force ureadahead out with dpkg? :) [03:33] anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? , it's 150 kbps but i get only 12 kbps download speed, any tweak or something? [03:33] I want to edit my grub 2 menu to make it really easy for a new user can I edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file? to make these changes [03:33] MikeJB, which version of Ubuntu? are you burning from another linux install or from windows [03:33] soreau: could not open location 'file:///home/barcode/nm-applet' === twas_ is now known as twas2 [03:34] friendishan: are you capped for the month? [03:34] barcode: Ok, try it in your terminal [03:34] where are you getting that download speed from friendshan what site ? [03:34] losha: it doesn't make any sense. [03:34] ripdisk: ok, go to the server, run telnet localhost 5900. Do you see some text? [03:34] Sagaci no it's unlimited usage plan [03:34] well i'm ssh'd in [03:34] it wants me to apt-get them [03:34] hiexpo everywhere the same download speed [03:34] bazhang: I personally use Fedora but my LUG wants me to bring several USB drives of Ubuntu for netbooks. Someone else has DVDs taken care of. [03:34] friendishan: is it only on torrents, as they may be throttled by your ISP [03:34] it worked, losha [03:34] ripdisk: doesn't matter, it'll still work. run telnet localhost 5900. Do you see some text? [03:34] barcode: That's the problem. Whatever you did removed the package that provides nm-applet [03:34] bazhang: Tomorrow's UMBC LUG's installfest [03:35] D: [03:35] Sagaci no not torrents [03:35] i wasn't saying it mattered, i was just telling you that i didn't have to leave this pc. [03:35] barcode: So apt-get install whatever it's telling you to then run nm-applet [03:35] ripdisk: now run telnet 5900. Do you see the same text? [03:35] but anywho [03:35] What is visual tearing? [03:35] soreau:i have no internet :P [03:35] MikeJB, you can use unetbootin from most linux installs as well as windows to make another linux usb bootable live usb/installer [03:35] friendishan: have you tried your connection with another system [03:35] has there any free racing games for linux? [03:35] barcode: ugh. [03:35] Sagaci yea [03:36] Sagaci everywhere the same speed [03:36] I must be numbing it... I went into Epiphany's preferences and told it NEVER to accept cookies. Yet when I go look at my private data, there's a pile of them. Installing epiphany-extensions to see if that helps... [03:36] losha: connection refused. [03:36] hmm... [03:36] barcode, can't you just reinstall the applette [03:36] has there any free racing games for linux? [03:36] friendishan: you'd have to contact your ISP [03:36] barcode: 1) Can you connect with an ethernet cable? 2) It might be possible to install it from the ubuntu cd 3) You could connect to the internet via the command line [03:36] ripdisk: almost certainly at the router. Can you reboot it? [03:36] there is torcs [03:36] losha: sure. [03:36] VNC 5900 5901 192.168.1.68 [03:36] hiexpo:i wouldnt know how im a noob :/ [03:36] I want to edit my grub 2 menu to make it really easy for a new user can I edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file? to make these changes [03:36] Sagaci no i want some tweak or something, as per ISP this speed is ok [03:36] but that's the settings on the router [03:36] anyone can help me for increasing my net speed? , it's 150 kbps plan with unlimited usage but i get only 12 kbps download speed, any tweak or something? [03:36] ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:37] How can i install torcs? [03:37] soreau: how do i connect via command line :/ [03:37] i tried before with iwconfig [03:37] Mehedi_Simon, are you talking about games like Pole Position? [03:37] i guess i didnt do it right [03:37] ok well brb losha i'm gonna reset it. [03:37] bazhang: Yeah, thanks.... cross-platform is what I was looking for and it is in the repository. Fedora's (semi?) official USB thing doesn't recognize the Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO [03:37] ripdisk: why isn;t it VNC 5900 5900 192.168.1.68 ? [03:37] barcode: What kind of connection is it? Encrypted? Open? If encrypted, what kind of encryption? [03:37] Crewsr3 Grub 2 basics http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 [03:37] open [03:37] barcode, right click on the panel where it was and click add to panel scroll the list and see if it's in there [03:37] no no. motor racing game [03:37] ok when I "ln -s target linkname" it appears as though the directory i'm working in is where the symbotic link is... even when i 'pwd'. can I make a link that will just take me to that spot in the directory tree? [03:37] Crewsr3: any changes you make directly to grub.cfg will be overwritten on grub updates/kernel updates, so ultimately it will just make it harder on the user [03:37] Mehedi_Simon> from ubuntu software center [03:37] hiexpo: im on ubuntu-netbook-remix it doesnt have that option [03:37] vdrift is a good racing game [03:38] I have to agree with him. Its unlikely you can tweak it if you get the same problem with more than one computer. [03:38] just for quick access to certain folders from ~/ [03:38] barcode: What is your interface name as listed by the output of 'iwconfig'? [03:38] that was for friendishan [03:38] wlan0 [03:38] MikeJB, could be corrupt iso, check the md5, sometimes takes me a couple of tries to get it done correctly [03:38] Thanks Sensiva and trism [03:38] uw [03:38] jumpmustang ok [03:38] also trigger [03:38] barcode, oh ok [03:39] nickaugust: yes, just use a full pathname for linkname instead... [03:39] friendishan: it's unlikely there's a tweak or turbo booster app that's going to make your connection faster [03:39] bazhang: Well, I wanted to try it with another program to see if it was a problem with the program and not the download... since finding another program is (theoretically) faster than downloading something again [03:39] Most random bug ever: when I push either ctrl key, my peripheral laptop fan halts spinning [03:39] more of a quirk than a bug [03:39] Sagaci there was some tweak i did before which made my download speed to 30 kbps before i re-installed ubuntu [03:39] If you are getting that big of connection difference it's either your ISP, your wires inside your house, or you have a router set up for home networking and the router is set up wrong. [03:40] barcode: Ok, do 'iwconfig essid && dhclient ' where is the name of your interface, (wlan0) and is the name of your access point. [03:40] http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/ this might work? [03:40] losha: with the '-s' switch? [03:40] jumpnmustang it's a wireless connection [03:40] im back [03:40] John-_: congrats though. I've actually never heard that one before. There ought to be some kind of prize... [03:40] nickaugust: yes, exactly as previously only with a full pathname for linkname... [03:40] like, the ability for me to be able to boot windows again? [03:40] Sensiva on this website it says to go to /etc/default/grub to edit the file....for some reason I don't have that directory [03:40] soreau: wtf i sudo'd and im getting permission denied [03:41] Yes there is a folder in my vista C:/ called ubuntu, and has boot folder inside [03:41] Sensiva, anythoughts [03:41] John-_: greedy... [03:41] barcode: You need to use sudo for both commands... [03:41] friendishan wireless how? ISP is wireless by nature, you made it wireless through a router, or its a cell type connection? [03:41] oh duh xD [03:41] hello anyone can help me do this ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:41] friendishan, it has nothing to do with linux it is on the othere end the connection there itself [03:41] take it from me...never swap the locations of Windows and Linux between an internal and external hard drive... [03:41] Crewsr3 are you sure that its Grub2 that is installed? or Legacy Grub? [03:41] phil: use the method i stated before, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php [03:41] bazhang: I like the unetbootin interface better anyway, even if I'll never be able to make sense of the name. [03:41] jumpnmustang router [03:41] soreau: ... [03:42] soreau: i love you <3 thanks ^^ [03:42] losha: i did 'ln -s /usr/local/nginx/ /home/ubuntu/nginx' but pwd still shows "~/nginx$ pwd" [03:42] Sensiva, yes this is a fresh install of 9.10 [03:42] losha: /home/ubuntu/nginx [03:42] phil: via add/remove will hopefully clean up more registry entries, if any [03:42] losha: when I enter the directory I want it to actually take me to /usr/local/nginx [03:42] Crewsr3 try ls /etc/defaults/grub [03:42] losha: i'm back. [03:42] ahhhh thank you verry much [03:42] i remember [03:42] it was this tweak i did http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:42] phil: what's your download speed [03:42] friendishan If you disconnect the router and direct connect does it make it faster? [03:43] jumpnmustang nope [03:43] barcode: Were you able to start nm-applet ok now? [03:43] Sensiva, $ ls /etc/defaults/grub [03:43] ls: cannot access /etc/defaults/grub: No such file or directory [03:43] anyone can help me with this faster [03:43] does anybody know if there is an ubuntu driver for the radeon graphics card? [03:43] losha: same error [03:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:43] no change [03:43] ripdisk: why isn't your config line VNC 5900 5900 192.168.1.68 i.e forward 5900 to 5900? You have 5901 !! [03:43] can't connecct :( [03:43] Crewsr3 sorry default not defaults [03:43] when i try to open synaptic package manager it shows-----"Unable to get exclusive lock [03:43] jumpnmustang can u help me do this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:43] losha: is that incorrect? [03:43] This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first." what can i do? [03:44] Sagaci can u help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:44] losha: ok i changed it. [03:44] epinky [03:44] ripdisk: when you connect to public address 5900 you want it forwarded to local address 5900 where the server is listening. Where did 5901 come from? [03:44] mehedi34, close the other application once it is finished === krafty is now known as krafty-afk [03:44] Sensiva, that worked I was able to open the file [03:44] mehedi34, you can only run one instance of apt at a time [03:44] ok [03:44] soreau: yes <3 [03:44] friendishan: can't help you there, and it's an old guide [03:44] ripdisk: ok, run telnet 5900 again [03:44] barcode: Cool, glad I could help :) [03:45] 15mbps [03:45] Sensiva, so I can make some adjustment to this file then run update-grub and I should be good to go right? [03:45] +1000 for soreau :D thanks man [03:45] Sagaci no i require help with the installation of that [03:45] Sagaci i remember that was the tweak i did earlier [03:45] phil: so 160kbytes down, do you have download quota issues [03:45] mehedi34, what for the other to finish [03:45] oh. thanks [03:45] what the heck [03:45] i can't even ssh now [03:45] anyone can help me with installation of http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html [03:45] Crewsr3 exactly, follow the instructions in that thread to guide you on how to modify that file then do sudo update-grub [03:45] no [03:45] brb [03:46] I really can't see that fixing your issue. [03:46] Sensiva, thank you for your help! :) [03:46] uw uw :D [03:46] phil: i see, anyway. Downloading ubuntu and updates and extras will be about 1 gb to download, just letting you know [03:46] ok thx [03:46] WHY does ubuntu insist on locking out my laptop DVD rom [03:46] dang thing didn't connect ot th enet [03:46] nickaugust: so what happens now when you cd to /home/ubuntu/nginx ? [03:46] how do i edit /etc/sysctl.conf ?? using gedit?? [03:46] phil: once you're in ubuntu you may be able to change your repo list to your isp for free quota downloads for main, universe [03:47] its ALWAYS locking disks in there, and i dont know any way to stop it, i have to reboot.. anyone with ideas ? [03:47] losha: well I see the nginx smbolic link [03:47] yea im gonna check all the stuff i loaded on here and then uninstall... create a new partition, and then reinstall via DVD/USB right? [03:47] nickaugust: ok, run ls -l . Does it point to the right place? [03:47] losha: i think my ip changed or something wtf [03:47] Good morning .. [03:47] Quan-Time, have you tried "eject" from the command line ? [03:47] losha: yeah... [03:48] ripdisk: if it's not a static address (which cost more) it *can* change when you reboot... [03:48] phil: yeah, CD, DVD or USB is fine. are you 32-bit or 64 bit [03:48] Quan-Time: adding users too the /etc/fstab line for your CD Rom might help [03:48] nickaugust: so what happens now when you cd to /home/ubuntu/nginx ? [03:48] loops: holy crap it worked.. all software solutions deny it... cheers :) [03:48] Quan-Time: Yea, add users too the fstab entry for your CD drive [03:48] well, i think i installed 32 bit vista and 64 bit ubuntu.... its wiered... its 64 bit compatible i know for a fact [03:49] losha: It looks like i'm in '/home/ubuntu/nginx/' but what I want is for it to show me in '/usr/var/nginx' [03:49] I am using Ubuntu 9.04 with lotus notes 8.02 (linux version) .. when i scroll over the messages in lotus notes screen will become black on some messages .. how to over come this .. [03:49] and what is download quota? i am running off of a university internet connection... i never heard of any limits [03:49] phil 32 bit is better [03:49] hi all, i used to have working sound, then I upgraded to linux-image-2.6.31-20 and now in sound preferences I get "dummy audio output" and no sound whatsoever [03:49] MilitantPotato: ok, how would i do that.. sudo gedit /etc/fstab ?? [03:49] phil, how much ram do you have [03:49] phil: do you have 4gigs or more of ram? If not, no need for 64bit [03:49] nickaugust: if you do an ls, are you actually in /usr/var/nginx ? [03:49] phil: 32-bit if you want, unless you really need to use more than 3.5gb of ram, you'll run into a few less issues with 32bit [03:50] Quan-Time: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [03:50] i think i have 3 gigs [03:50] Losha: if I do a list yes... but if i do pwd i'm in /home/ubuntu/ngix [03:50] losha: i guess thats just how it works eh? [03:50] phil: then download the 32bit Ubuntu desktop edition [03:50] Quan-Time: where it says defaults, make it say 'users,defaults' (no quotes) [03:50] any one please help me [03:51] I followed a couple of troubleshooting sites, even compiled alsa from source, and still "dummy audio output" [03:51] MilitantPotato: kk done.. where should i be adding user, or is it my actual username ? [03:51] and side question: my gf is just loading up Ubuntu for the first time and she got a "Disk Warning" gives a warning about Reallocated Sector Count [03:51] sysctl -p for this command do i need to use sudo?? [03:51] der anyone? [03:51] phil: really depends on your uni but they might have a local mirror with ubuntu/linux files to leech [03:51] i do know for afact shes extrememly low on hard drive space, less than 10 gigs [03:51] Quan-Time: only for your CD rom though. users [03:51] nickaugust: actually, I believe it's configurable, I just don't recall how. Try googling bash and pwd [03:51] phil: in live cd? [03:51] phil, if you were using vista and it was setup as a 32 bit machine it is best to stay with that option on ubuntu also no need for 64 bit unless you like headaches [03:52] losha: ok thanks anway man i'll google it [03:52] .... der? [03:52] sysctl -p for this do i need to use sudo? [03:52] MSK: That sounds like a strange problem. Are you using desktop effects by chance? [03:52] Quan-Time: not your username, 'users,defaults' [03:52] friendishan, der? what does that mean [03:52] no [03:52] bazhang no nothing [03:52] I love my 4 gig ssd with 1 tb external.:-) [03:52] MSK: And this affects the entire screen? or just lotus [03:53] friendishan, if i do it without sudo i get permission denied on key "vm.swappiness" [03:53] MilitantPotato: can i PM post you that one line ? [03:53] can you redirect where apt-get install installs stuff? I dont have root access and I want to have my own program tree in my home folder with g++ in it [03:53] what does "disk has many bad sectors" mean? [03:53] friendishan, so yes, i'd say so [03:53] Quan-Time: yep [03:53] losha: please allow twenty minutes for eating. [03:53] soreau: Lotus and rarely on other screens too [03:53] kthx [03:53] nickaugust: try pwd -P [03:53] phil, i am also on a 32 bit machine i i have not found anything that will not run on it yey and i run cad programs on it [03:53] phil: is it an old hard drive [03:53] phil, exactly what it says. Unfortunately it also means that your disk is about to fail [03:53] MSK: I'm not sure what's going wrong. Have you considered using tomboy instead of lotus? [03:53] ripdisk: now I'm hungry... [03:54] chai_ ok thanks [03:54] lol [03:54] Ubuntu found it, and didnt cause it right? (shes getting mad ;) ) [03:54] soreau: As my company is using lotus domino software, i have installed lotus notes on the client side .. so i din't used tomboy [03:54] i got some steak and brusselsprouts [03:54] Could someone help me set VLC as the default DVD playing application? [03:54] phil: he's right. Your disk is toast. Stop what you're doing and make a backup of anything you can't afford to lose... [03:54] !lol ripdisk [03:55] !lol [03:55] !haha [03:55] anyone know a good software to backup encrypted drive [03:55] !no Helius [03:55] Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [03:55] Entelin, try getting the package without installing it, then adding --prefix=/target/directory when you install the package [03:55] help [03:55] NoobOmelette, what you want vlc as your default media player videos ? [03:55] not half as annoying as hearing ubottu pontificate on it... [03:55] oops [03:56] chai_: is there a way I can determine all the packages I need to download? [03:56] I want VLC to open when I stick in a DVD. [03:56] apt-get install build-essential pkg-config libboost1.35-dev libboost1.35-doc libboost-system1.35-dev libboost-system1.35.0 libboost-thread1.35-dev libboost-thread1.35.0 libboost-filesystem1.35-dev libboost-filesystem1.35.0 libboost-date-time1.35-dev libboost-date-time1.35.0 [03:56] thats the stuff I want [03:56] im sure all that has deps [03:56] Entelin, you mean dependencies? sudo apt-get build-dep packagename [03:56] !lol - ripdisk [03:56] MSK: If you did not install lotuc from official ubuntu repos (I do not see the program in ubuntu repos) you will have to ask the lotus developers about this problem [03:56] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:56] friendishan, PeterT please stop that [03:56] i cant sudo [03:57] NoOutlet, whatyou want vlc as default for media videos? [03:57] Movie Player was the default. I uninstalled it. Now it appears that Brasero wants to be the new default. [03:57] soreau:Can I configure tomboy as a mail cleint for Lotus Domino [03:57] NoOutlet, ok one sec [03:57] MSK: I have no idea. [03:57] Entelin, ok, download the package, try to install it, and if there are unmet dependencies it will tell you [03:57] I want it to be the default for DVD playing. [03:57] ok thanks [03:57] np [03:57] I was able to set it as the default for video files. [03:57] MSK, I doubt it. Tomboy is a post-it-note program, not an email program [03:58] NoOutlet, ok one sec i gotta look its been awhile lol [03:58] phil: all that music you talked about. Gone unless you make a backup *now* [03:58] i'm getting prompted to download the file when I try to access a .php file on karmic.. I know this is because apache isn't parsing the php file, but i've not been able to find any problem with the config [03:58] can anyone help? [03:58] soreau: some times it is effecting to entire system (screen will not be clear).. I need to refresh the screen .. [03:58] not mine, its my girlfriends one thats about to fry.... shes wigging out, how soon do you think it will crash? [03:58] phil: it's highly unlikely that ubuntu did it, but as stated then, backup any files [03:59] phil, no way to know. [03:59] ok [03:59] phil: could be hours, days weeks, etc [03:59] my buddy has ubuntu 9.10. his sata drives are not showing up in nautilus. [03:59] Evil_Otto, it might be a permissions issue, if you don't have permission to execute the php file it will just download [03:59] I just love Ubuntu... if it can find things like that and windows cant... power to linux!!! [03:59] MSK: From what you are describing, it almost sounds like a graphics driver issue.. but not sure. Which driver are you using? [03:59] soreau: I will be giving ctrl+alt+f1 and once again ctrl+alt+f7 .. then the screen will be looking good [03:59] parscoe: formatted as? [03:59] phil: Mine died hours after wards, I think I had a head crash. It can take minutes or days. [03:59] chai: permissions on the .php file? [04:00] phil: impossible to say when. That's why you have to make backups... [04:00] Evil_Otto, yea [04:00] soreau: not sure about the drivers .. how to check that in ubuntu ? [04:00] NoOutlet, ok you can go into system/pref /prefeered app's or the easiest way i have set them is right click on the file you want to open and than it will say what it is set as default than click open with other applilication and set it as default [04:00] phil: same issue with fedora, it found bad disk sectors on an external hdd, windows didn't seem to see or report anything [04:00] hi [04:00] chai_: setting the permissions to 777 on the .php script did not change anything [04:00] ballsac here [04:00] does ubuntu work [04:00] phil: Most often, it's a sign the drive is slowly dying, you could have a few days. It's likely been like that awhile, time to get a new drive :) [04:00] this is shortly after installing ifuse to allow ipod . formatted as fat32 and ntfs .. but they are not showing up at all in " computer " section [04:00] ballsac, yes [04:01] MSK: Well you could look at the X log, but I can probably guess if you show the output of 'lspci|grep VGA' [04:01] i checked ubuntu in 2008 and it did not work back then [04:01] ballsac: easy troll is easy [04:01] did they get it working [04:01] seems to be working for me. [04:01] ballsac, did you have a support question or just wish to chat [04:01] Evil_Otto, hm... any other php files work? [04:01] bazhang: i have a support question. [04:01] ballsac, this is support only, not chat [04:01] yes, yes [04:01] chai_: no, this was the first one I tried [04:01] ballsac: Install it and see :) [04:01] I have support question. I very needy of support. I am linux beginner. [04:01] ballsac, then ask [04:01] ballsac, ask your question. [04:01] Best to just ask. [04:02] 10:01 [04:02] ok, thanks for all the help guys.... im gonna head out and redo my Ubuntu :D [04:02] ok [04:02] MSK: Actually now that I think about it, I can't really guess since you aren't running desktop effects. Instead, can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com? [04:02] Evil_Otto, silly question, but you installed php? [04:02] so i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop [04:02] and it [04:02] chai: yes [04:02] soreau: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [04:02] ok wait a sec. does ubuntu work on laptops to begin with [04:02] as far as I can tell the module is being loaded [04:02] cuz i dont want to waste ur times if it doesn't [04:02] ballsac, Yes, of course. [04:02] MSK: You're most likely using the intel driver [04:02] whenever I try apache2 -M i get this [04:02] I got it running on this laptop. [04:02] ok then i'll ask my question [04:02] yes [04:03] the drives are actually still ok and i can manually mount them per commandline . [04:03] MSK: All's I can say is to try again with karmic 9.10 as there have been a lot of changes in the intel driver [04:03] I cannot get my Intel GMA950 graphics working under Ubuntu 9.10 do I have to install a special package or something? [04:03] hiexpo: I've already set VLC as the default media player for the few video file types I have on the computer. I want it to be the default application for DVDs and that advice can't apply to the DVD. [04:03] apache2: bad user name ${APACHE RUN USER} [04:03] ballsac, It will work on laptops, however laptop hardware is very proprietary so some things may not work. [04:03] i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop and i had this sudden urge to chase furry creatures, get fat on pizza and pop, watch gay porno and be a general retard douchebag. What could be wrong? [04:03] MSK: Maybe you can test on a live cd if that's convenient for you [04:03] they are not showing up in nautilus, which seems like maybe something with fuse might be fubar ? [04:03] obvious troll is obvious [04:03] I called that right away :) [04:03] chai_: there is no prefix option for dpkg [04:03] I have an Intel 945GM in this laptop and it works fine. [04:04] Yep you did Mil Congrats. [04:04] like a bad monty python sketch... [04:04] soreau: I did that .. but one issue is like i am using lotus sametime intranet chat .. in 9.10 i am not able to work on 8.02 same time chat which is integrated with lotus notes.. so i am forced to use ubuntu 9.04 [04:04] losha: ok i'm back. still here? [04:04] Evil_Otto, I get that too, but my php works [04:04] normally in this install of ubuntu, his sata drives would show up as separate "removable" hard drives [04:04] ripdisk: I have no life, and no dinner... [04:04] Anyone else got any idea about the .php download-instead-of-parse issue? [04:04] losha: what about herb? [04:04] Entelin, ah, i read that on a forum, hold on lemme check [04:04] MSK: So the black screen problem does not happen but other unrelated issues occur? [04:05] ripdisk: after we solve your vnc problem... [04:05] soreau: u r right [04:05] score. [04:05] ok well the netip changed let me go check it so i can frickin ssh in [04:05] usually the php issue has to do with the web server mime tyoes [04:05] ripdisk: ok [04:05] at least from what i have seen [04:06] Entelin, looks like you can't do it through dpkg, you could always compile from source :P [04:06] MSK: Then I'd say it's definitely a driver issue. You could try upgrading your drivers using the xorg-edgers repo (for jaunty 9.04) but do so only at your oown risk [04:06] soreau: I raised a question in Ubuntuforums .. but there is no help on that link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310746&highlight=lotus+sametime === jasonjang is now known as Guest13863 [04:06] chai_: i'm trying to install gcc, I have no compiler, thats the problem [04:06] losha: ok. [04:07] Question - is it possible to control the pixel height side of the options in the menus? For example, Im running a theme where the height of the options in system - preferences are very short. I'd like to expand them. Is that possible? [04:07] ripdisk: ok, logged into the server, vncserver running, listening on 5900? [04:07] yep yep [04:07] Entelin, hah... well from what i've read, .deb package includes a prefix already, i'm not sure if its possible to change it [04:07] ripdisk: ok, run telnet 5900 [04:07] ok hmm [04:08] losha: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [04:08] ripdisk: ok, for completeness, run telnet localhost 5900 [04:08] Hello everyone. I'm trying to get a simple setup going for jsp so I can write some basic servlets for school. I have tomcat6 and java installed, and am using apache2 and mysql already with php. what should I do? .jsp files show up as plaintext on my server (locally) [04:09] soreau: thank you for the information u provided [04:09] losha: works fine. [04:09] this is making me angry. [04:09] ripdisk: back to the router config to confirm.... [04:09] MSK: No problem. I hope you are able to fix it. [04:09] VNC 5900 5900 192.168.1.68 [04:09] soreau: i need to try out .. [04:09] What format do SSH keys need to be in to import them into seahorse ("Passwords and Encryption Keys")? [04:10] looking at his history , gvfs, gvfs-bin, gvfs-fuse were the last updates around when it was thought to have crashed [04:10] ripdisk: um, also for completeness, run telnet 192.168.1.68 5900 [04:10] evening all , anyone experienced with getting X to use a nonstandard resolution without xinerama or twinview? [04:11] unable to connect, losha [04:11] now we're getting to it [04:11] muahaha ill just use chroot [04:11] ripdisk: from the server, telnet 192.168.1.68 5900 doesn't work? [04:11] question - i have 9.10 desktop 2.6.31 pulse audio. I have a 7 second lag in the time it takes to start any audio. its synced after it starts and for a while i can start and stop audio normally. everything if fine. let it sit for a few minutes and its like the server shuts off and its a 7 second lag to start audio again. anyone have any suggestions on what to check? to fix the issue [04:12] no ripdisk [04:12] er [04:12] lmao [04:12] er crap i can't say lmao [04:12] ripdisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:12] I CAN'T FLOOD EITHER [04:12] anyway, no losha [04:12] it does not work. [04:12] ripdisk: can't say crap either. Tut... [04:12] Talaskina: Have you tried without pulseaudio? [04:12] how can I use tomcat to get apache parsing .jsp files? I have apache set up and working with php now. I've done the basics of tomcat stuff I found online from tutorials but .jsp files are still plaintext [04:12] ripdisk: please verify 192.168.1.68 using ifconfig -a [04:13] what is this gadget browser in this screen shot? where do I get it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=57063&file1=57063-1.jpg&file2=57063-2.jpg&file3=57063-3.jpg&name=Moomex-Theme [04:13] Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:11:61:ea:bf [04:13] inet addr:192.168.1.68 Bcast:192.168.1.255 [04:13] you know what? [04:13] ripdisk: looks ok. So why? [04:13] i think i might know the problem, losha [04:14] ripdisk: tell me... [04:14] Entelin, did that work? i found a site with gcc binaries [04:14] i'm runnign virtualbox windows on that ubuntu box as well, which is also sharing the same connection [04:14] soreau: no, how would i go about shutting down pulse audio? [04:14] maybe this complicated things? [04:14] ! pulseaudio | Talaskina [04:14] Entelin, just in case http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries [04:14] Talaskina: PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [04:14] hi everyone [04:14] My USB flash drive isn't being detected. It works fine in other computers, and has only been giving me a problem today. The LED in the flash drive lights up and doesn't blink. (ubuntu 9.10 - 64bit) [04:14] ripdisk: bridged networking? [04:14] i need a service where i can store about ~30mb that is accessible with wget. anyone know of anything like this? [04:14] yeah [04:14] thanks [04:14] bridged [04:14] bridged is correct [04:14] hm, is there an alternative i can switch too? [04:15] like alsa or would that screw up my sound [04:15] ripdisk: ip address of the guest os? [04:15] i'm going to make my own ubuntu within ubuntu using chroot instead i think [04:15] let me go check [04:15] i have some Q [04:15] Entelin, don't you need sudo to chroot? [04:15] i dont think so [04:15] someone can help me out please [04:15] ok .. somehow gvfs-backends got removed .. thats what his problem was [04:15] its just a shell thing [04:15] ! ask | r43gh4r [04:16] r43gh4r: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:16] damnit your correct it does require root === dabossbv1 is now known as dabossbv [04:16] wtf [04:16] losha: 1.80 [04:16] #ubuntu-es [04:16] and the host is 1.68 [04:17] ripdisk: shouldn't be a problem. I can't figure out why 1.68 won't work but localhost does. Running any firewall software on the server? [04:17] thanks... ok i have a toshiba satellite m100 and i've installed ubuntu 9.10 on a partition... but it crashes just after logging in... [04:17] Entelin, I just tried that site with the binaries, it works, download them from there and you can compile the rest you need from source [04:18] ok ill have a look [04:18] r43gh4r: Elaborate on what happens exactly that you call 'crash' [04:18] well... it freezes... i cant do anything... [04:19] chai_, isnt that fortran and not c++? [04:19] r43gh4r: Which graphics card model do you have as reported by 'lspci|grep VGA'? [04:19] Entelin, it also has gcc and g++ [04:19] losha [04:19] ah ok hmm [04:19] i installed firestarter in hopes to turn my ubuntu firewall off. [04:20] ripdisk: listening... [04:20] dont know [04:20] but firestarter is completely off [04:20] at the moment im on win xp [04:20] i wonder if i can ssh [04:20] bah [04:20] humbug [04:20] ripdisk: just for completeness, iptables -F, then retest telnet [04:20] but this model as an "ati radeon xpress 200m" [04:20] could someone help with a hard disk problem? [04:20] what keyword for get codek player? [04:21] My hd isn't being seen by the system anymore [04:21] hey do you guys know about errors in wine? trying to install microsoft office [04:21] losha: still doesn't work [04:21] r43gh4r: Ok, can you try booting with the additional kernel parameter radeon.modest=1 by pressing E at the grub splash screen? [04:21] Dan48p, check the appdb and then /join #winehq [04:21] ripdisk: can you ping 192.168.1.68 ? [04:21] !appdb | Dan48p [04:22] using palimpsest disk utility......says unknown or used [04:22] r43gh4r: Sorry, typo. I meant radeon.modeset=1 [04:22] Dan48p: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [04:22] bazhang, what is appdb? [04:22] see above [04:22] oh ok [04:22] ok i'll try that [04:22] can anyone help me fix my sound? my system doesn't recognize my intel sound card ever since i did a software update [04:22] winrar? [04:22] disregard my question [04:22] SwingBot, hi [04:22] I have no idea what hi is [04:22] do you know about take codek player? [04:23] SwingBot, did you have a support question [04:23] I have no idea what did you have a support question is [04:23] hello there [04:23] thanks a lot... if it doesnt work i come back [04:23] losha from where [04:23] ! who | r43gh4r [04:23] Hi all! When I use the scroll wheel, I get switched from one workspace to another. How do I turn that off? [04:23] r43gh4r: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [04:23] ripdisk: from the server... [04:23] SwingBot hello [04:23] SwingBot, no chat here, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic [04:23] I have no idea what no chat here, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic is [04:23] I have no idea what hello is [04:24] yes, losha [04:24] it pings... [04:24] !soreau [04:24] Now they're letting bots run Ubuntu? [04:24] ?? sorry im new at this [04:24] !bot [04:24] not yet [04:24] r43gh4r: Yes, please highlight me by using my nick when you come back [04:24] hm figured i'd try.. [04:24] Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [04:24] ripdisk : help me to get keyword codek player...please.. [04:25] r43gh4r: Just like I type your nick at the start of every statement I am making to you [04:25] Does anyone know if recordings from Windows Media Center can be played in Linux? [04:25] ripdisk: so to recap, from the server, you can ping .68, but can't telnet to port .68:5900 ? [04:25] !soreau like this??? [04:25] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:25] r43gh4r, not with a ! [04:25] r43gh4r: Well, soreau: will work instead of !soreau ;) [04:25] Some_Person, Linux can play a lot of things. What is the extension on the file? [04:25] soreau like this??? [04:26] r43gh4r: Yes [04:26] hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion is it easy [04:26] my local mdns crashed, what should I do? [04:26] dsnyders: I haven't made a recording yet so I don't know [04:26] losha: yes [04:26] meowbuntu, fairly easy sure [04:26] soreau thanks... sorry for the trouble [04:26] Clone29: what do you want, an audio/video player? [04:26] r43gh4r: And make sure you press E at the grub splash screen, then append radeon.modeset=1 to the kernel parameters [04:26] sagaci:audio and video [04:26] !sound [04:26] yay, every call to a .php file results in an apache segfault \o/ [04:26] r43gh4r, most chat programs will complete the name if you type the first few letters and press tab. [04:26] bazhang: how can i i am using ubuntu 9.10 live cd atm [04:27] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [04:27] chai_, please /msg the bot [04:27] ripdisk: more recap, from the server, you can ping .68, but can't telnet to port .68:5900 but you can telnet to localhost:5900 ? [04:27] bazhang, gotcha [04:27] Clone29: you could use VLC for video and rhythmbox or banshee for audio [04:27] meowbuntu, you realise that the files on there will be lost [04:27] soreau i'll try that... seeya in a few minutes [04:27] losha: yes. [04:27] Some_Person, Hard to say for sure. The program mplayer seems to be able to tackle everything I've thrown at it except some encrypted wav files. [04:28] bazhang: i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to partition [04:28] ^ or format [04:28] chai_, only half works, depends on some libs that dont exist when you actually go and try to compile something [04:28] meowbuntu, then no [04:28] sagaci: but i cannot use it,because all player need codek... [04:28] Clone29: try medibuntu [04:28] Has anyone figured out why there are so many moronic people in this world? I would really like to know for my own personal satisfaction :P [04:28] ripdisk: ok, I'm officially stuck. If it were my machine, at this point, I'd uninstall firestarter... [04:29] sagaci : on konsole terminal? [04:29] i know you can go from ext3 to ext 4 without having to format again [04:29] losha: how [04:29] i forgot how to uninstall stuff. [04:29] does anybody know how to run the radeon graphics card under Ubuntu? [04:29] SwingBot, do you mean i have to do sudo first before apt-get? Or can I just use apt-get (name of program)? [04:29] * SwingBot does you mean i have to do sudo first before apt-get? Or can I just use apt-get (name of program)? [04:29] anyone have a suggestion for how I can actively monitor or view my current wattage/amperage input/output ? [04:29] luke: enable nonfree driver [04:29] s [04:29] how?! [04:30] dsnyders: The extension is .wtv [04:30] hmm, i can't remember :/ [04:30] ripdisk: apt-get remove firestarter should do it... [04:30] i think it's like [04:30] seanbrystone depends if you are root or not [04:30] Luke_: anything in System: Administration: Hardware Drivers? [04:30] yeah i don't remember.. [04:30] wouln'd know! [04:30] SwingBot, but I'm still getting errors [04:30] I have no idea what but I'm still getting errors is [04:30] Entelin, lame... well thats about all i can think of [04:30] ok thanks for the help [04:30] Luke_: look there (in teh menues) [04:30] menus* [04:31] the* [04:31] Luke_: That question doesn't make too much sense. Most all radeon graphics cards work with 3D OOTB with any recent version of ubunut [04:31] chai_, http://linux.die.net/man/1/fakechroot [04:31] hmm [04:31] hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion. is it easy i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to repartition or format [04:31] Hi all, After an ubnormal reboot I can not take file browser and I cannt see any thing in my desktop please help me [04:31] SwingBot: being human [04:31] I have no idea what being human is [04:31] lol [04:32] Entelin, hah nice, i'm gonna play with that [04:32] Samba help please - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1410602 [04:32] Luke_: Perhaps it would help if you stated what exactly you're trying to do [04:32] how can i play copyrighted cds on my laptop? [04:32] losha: i uninstalled firestarter.. i've got no idea why this doesn't work [04:32] i know but i bought a $600 computer from Best Buy and ive been trying to install Ubuntu for three hours but the kernel always gets hung on the radeon card [04:32] What format do I need to have a ssh key in to be able to import it into seahorse? [04:32] audio cds ** [04:32] Entelin, you still have to isntall fakechroot tho [04:32] Help! Have been trying to enable mod_rewrite on apache2 under Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop for two days... Tried following the directions of a bunch of forum threads. Any clues? :D [04:32] chai_, I can transfer the file from another system [04:32] Luke_: At what point does it hang? [04:32] around three seconds after booting [04:33] chai_, technically I could do the same for g++ but that gets much more complex [04:33] ripdisk: ok, rerun the checklist: from the server ping .68, telnet to .68:5900 then telnet localhost:5900 [04:33] quick question: installing lubuntu-desktop wants to remove network manager and install wicd, but I'd like to keep network manager. Any ideas how to do this? [04:33] Some_Person, I just did some googling. It looks like wtv isn't supported. Mind you, I just looked at one page. [04:33] Luke_: Which version of ubuntu have you? [04:33] Entelin, hm yea i was about to suggest that [04:33] anyone have a suggestion for how I can actively monitor or view my current wattage/amperage input/output ? [04:33] CaptainMorgan, KillAWatt physical appliance? :) [04:33] just downloaded it from main site brand new [04:34] why does my outgoing mail not seem to work? [04:34] fixworx, was thinking along the lines of an ubuntu app [04:34] CaptainMorgan: I used one of those killawatt thingies... [04:34] Entelin, maybe transfer g++ binaries and the entire /lib folder :P... would probably run into more trouble tho [04:34] CaptainMorgan, of course :) [04:34] losha: so, this is the end of the line eh? [04:34] Entelin, not to mention messy [04:34] Luke_: What makes you think it is a graphics problem? [04:35] hang on ill be right back [04:35] chai_, yeah and they may still not work without a chroot [04:35] MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?" [04:35] ripdisk: that depends on the results. Also, we haven't tried shutting down the guest OS yet... [04:35] but it's my print server :( [04:35] Some_Person, It looks like you need to use some windows tool to convert the files to mpegs first. [04:35] CaptainMorgan: I guess if you are working on a laptop, right clicking the power icon in the top-right corner of your screen and selecting power-history will give you the reqd info (as far as power consumption is concerned) [04:35] cuz there are no linux lexmark drivers [04:36] but yeah i'll shut it down. [04:36] ripdisk: that's a different problem. For now, we're debugging... [04:36] thanks m_anish - saw that in a search... not using a laptop [04:36] * ripdisk acpi shutdown [04:36] : [04:36] ( [04:36] MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?", I guess you can't answer that question. The answer to your original question is "no" === patrick is now known as Guest83111 [04:38] hey there people :) Can someone help me with transmission bit torrent client? [04:38] where is where is sagaci? [04:38] hehe [04:38] how can I make aptitude ignore a dependency [04:38] i need help [04:38] hamish_: Not if you don't ask your question [04:38] hamish, what's going on with it? [04:38] ok losha [04:38] i took it offline.... [04:38] let's try now [04:38] where is sagaci? [04:38] i need help [04:38] hehehee [04:38] soreau, I need to schedule pausing... but I'm not sure how? [04:39] I have it installed on a headless server. [04:39] * yawns * [04:39] hi can i change an ext4 partition to an ext3 partion. is it easy i have my ubuntu os on it. would like to convert it without haveing to repartition or format [04:39] losha: nothing [04:39] MeowUbuntu: The larger question would be "Why?", I guess you can't answer that question. The answer to your original question is "no" [04:39] i just don't get it [04:39] and need to schedule it to pause during on peak hours. [04:39] what is tha yawns server?? [04:39] hamish_: I'm not sure if there is a way to do that, though there may be, it should be in the settings somewhere. (If it's not, I suspect it does not have this capability) [04:39] ripdisk: you mean no change? can't telnet to port .68:5900 but can telnet to localhost:5900 ? [04:40] hamish, I don't think you can schedule such things with transmission. [04:40] yeah losha i tried it again === erk is now known as BeZerk [04:40] hamish you will need something like ktorrent to schedule [04:40] hamish_, there is a small turtle icon at the bottom of transmission window [04:41] ripdisk: how does the output of arp -a look? [04:41] soreau, the settings does not appear to have it no, perhaps there is a command I can run that will pause/unpause all torrents. I thought if there is I could use crontabs? [04:41] hamish_, you could set up some chron jobs to start and stop it. [04:41] Entelin, bleh, tried "fakechroot dpkg -i package.deb /new/prefix/dir" ... you still need root privileges to use dpkg -i [04:41] hey everyone... [04:41] bazhang, I've tried that, but setting speeds to 0 tends to cause erratic speeds and not much else... [04:41] hamish_, preferences speed tab can set the schedule [04:41] sagaci is not found in here.......peace [04:41] yes. [04:42] anyone wanna talk? [04:42] okay [04:42] saltonaslug, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Ubuntu support here [04:42] im back where should i post the photos [04:42] bazhang I've found the scheduler, but it won't pause it, only throttle the speeds :( [04:42] hamish_: If there is a command that could accomplish such a task, you could certainly have cron run it for you. However, it is not likely some command will make a program have a feature it does not provide [04:42] chai_, whats worse is that the libfakechroot.so i think needs to be installed ahead of time [04:42] When running this "daniel@my-pos:~$ gpg -d /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg" I get this "gpg: decrypt_message failed: unexpected data" This file has not been modified in anyway. Any ideas? [04:43] soreau, your reasoning is sound. Can you recommend a torrent client that has a webui and scheduling? [04:43] .................................................................................................................... [04:43] Entelin, bummer.. what are you trying to do this for anyways? [04:43] how can I keep aptitude from replacing network manager with wicd when I apt-get lubuntu desktop? [04:43] saltonaslug, please dont do that [04:43] deluge appears to just crash. I have 8.04 LTS. [04:43] someone talk plese. [04:43] ./fakechroot -l libfakechroot.so [04:43] ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakechroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. [04:43] please* [04:43] hamish_ ktorrent has scheduling [04:43] :( [04:43] thats why i did it, sorry. [04:43] saltonaslug, this is not a chat channel [04:43] hamish_: Actually, no I cannot as I do not know of one. [04:43] or at the very least, keep network manager in the cache so I can reinstall it right afterwards [04:43] saltonaslug, this is not a social chat [04:43] ripdisk: well, we've made a tiny bit of progress. We now know there's something funny going on at the server... [04:43] chai_, I just want a build environment on this box [04:43] koshari, and a webui? [04:43] hamish_ and a webUI [04:43] saltonaslug, #ubuntu-offtopic is the chat channel [04:44] too much writing at once though... [04:44] Entelin, on a box you have no privileges on? :P [04:44] ok. [04:44] it's all good... [04:44] chai_, worst case I dont get one, and do the building on my own box and upload the resulting binarys [04:44] saltonaslug, /join #ubuntu-offtopic [04:44] soreau: to answer your earlier question, you're on the edge of a bell curve looking inwards... [04:44] chai_, correct [04:44] ok ok ok ok ok. [04:44] thankyou koshari, I will have a look! [04:44] Losha: Apparently [04:44] losha: i'll try giving you ssh.. somehow [04:44] Can the archive manager handle rar files that are in parts? [04:44] where can I find an mpeg aac audio encoder? [04:45] google comes up dry [04:45] jumpnmustang, yup [04:45] jumpnmustang, sure, just right click the first one extract here [04:45] Blue1 you tried ffmpeg? [04:45] soreau, thank you anyway! I will try koshari's suggestion, ktorrent. [04:45] ripdisk: yeah, too bad I can't vnc in.... [04:46] is chrome better than firefox [04:46] and it will do it automatically? what about the sister type *.7z? === user_ is now known as Jef91 [04:46] and how to get chrome on ubuntu 9.10 can is it there in the repos [04:46] losha: i fowarded the ports for ssh [04:46] still can't connect [04:46] maybe it's THIS computer [04:46] c_nick, yes it is [04:47] pm me so i can give you the info to try it yuorself [04:47] where shoiuld i post the boot images at [04:47] semitones: how does it make a difference to the user [04:47] ripdisk: Actually, I need a break, gimme 15, ok? [04:47] When running this "daniel@my-pos:~$ gpg -d /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg" I get this "gpg: decrypt_message failed: unexpected data" This file has not been modified in anyway. Any ideas? [04:47] c_nick, it's down to personal preference, really [04:47] grrrrrr , X still always restarts into 800x600 , and refuses to start with another mode, yet will allow me to change modes to a higher res right after start [04:48] ah ok [04:48] losha: ok no problem, i think i'm gonna take a tirp down to the medical shop.. [04:48] !info google-chrome | c_nick [04:48] semitones: how to get chrome on ubuntu [04:48] c_nick: Package google-chrome does not exist in karmic [04:48] c_nick, it's faster for a lot of people [04:48] hmm [04:48] c_nick, just a sec [04:48] hexmare, have a look at your xorg.conf file. [04:48] how do i run a radeon graphics card under Ubuntu? [04:48] please, this sound issue has me pulling my hair. can anyone explain how this is possible: http://pastebin.com/m2fd8ad33 [04:49] dsnyders > all over my xorg.conf , have set modeline up . changed the metamodes option [04:49] Luke_, http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/ [04:49] Looks like the 7z is not supported, thanks so far guys. anyone know what handles that 7z file type? seem windows born. [04:49] c_nick, you can install it by going to www.google.com/chrome and click download [04:50] jumpnmustang, install 7zip [04:50] hi is there an app i can use to check and fix bad sectors on hdd [04:50] 7z is open source [04:50] brb restarting gdm again. [04:50] awesome thanks. [04:50] c_nick, click "get google chrome (beta)" [04:50] my bootloader is getting corrupted [04:50] I've reinstalled ubuntu 3 times now [04:50] how can I get aptitude to ignore a dependency [04:50] for 7z: install package lzma [04:51] or rar [04:51] I want to install everything that the lubuntu-desktop package depends on, except for wicd. Is there a way to do this? [04:51] back [04:51] gsgleason: you know how much space that takes up? [04:52] thanks semitones [04:52] 172kB [04:52] cool thanks. [04:52] c_nick, you're welcome :) [04:52] meowbuntu_: it's a bad sign actually. It's usually means your disk is about to fail.. [04:52] when I use 'iwconfig' I get information about the link. How do I extract only the line where the word "Quality" is written? I tried this: 'iwconfig | grep Quality' , and it outputs the correct line, but I also get 3 other lines that do not contain the word "Quality"... Can someone clarify me how to use grep, if this is the solution for this issue? [04:53] hexmare, In the monitor section, do you have your preferred Modeline listed first? [04:53] semitones: install lubuntu-desktop metapackage then remove wicd afterward? It'll cry wolf about lubuntu-desktop metapackage but you can remove that afterward. [04:54] kinja-sheep, thanks, that is what I would do, except my network doesn't work using wicd, so I don't have internet to reinstall network manager [04:54] dsnyder > on the last restart I got it to boot to 3840x1024 , so I am now a step in the right direction. now I just need to get it to go all the way to 5040x1050 [04:55] hexmare, Man, I wish I had your graphics card/monitor. I'm maxing out at 1280x1024 [04:55] semitones: It is always nice to have additional machines or packages. You could download packages and keep them on the disk for temporary. I'm not 100% certain about dependencies. [04:56] dsnyder > Sli 2x8800gts, 3 22"ws monitors, matrox th2go [04:56] * hexmare brb restarting GDM again [04:56] kinja-sheep, ok, do you know how I would keep network-manager on disk temporarily? [04:56] are there issues with ubuntu recognizing regular redbook cds? [04:57] !aac encoder [04:57] semitones: Something like "sudo aptitude download [04:57] !aac [04:57] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [04:57] kinja-sheep, thanks, I'll try it [04:57] * hexmare back [04:57] bombel: iwconfig 2>/dev/null|grep Quality [04:57] semitones: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/net/ [04:58] semitones: That'll get you debs in current path. Also. [04:58] !offline | semitones [04:58] semitones: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD [04:58] great, thanks :) [04:58] semitones: go too synaptic, right click network-manager, go too Dependencies and make sure you get those too [04:58] chai: is that mod currently loaded? [04:58] chai: lsmod|grep snd_hda_intel [04:59] semitones: that way you have everything that the app needs for later [04:59] semitones: http://apt.alturl.com/ seems promising. [04:59] you know that you have been futzin with your xorg.con and Xorg.0.log too many times when you write a shel script to open them automatically for you at start [04:59] kinja-sheep: already linked semi (http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/net/) [04:59] hexmare, in the screen section of xorg.conf there is a line that reads option "metamodes". I think you need to put the desired mode first on that line. [05:00] alright, thanks a lot :) [05:00] hexmare, A script... Yep, you've been futzing too much. [05:00] LOL [05:00] semitones: i noticed that webpage lists and links too dependencies, should make it easier [05:01] there's about 20 though X( [05:01] hello everyone [05:01] well this way as soon as I get into gnome , it pops both files into gedit so I can see them right away ;) [05:01] ankush: Hello Dude-de [05:01] <[Adam|Linux]> What is a good text editor with highlighting (for PHP and all that) with FTP built in? Hoping for something like notepad++ on windows [05:01] * hexmare brb gdm restart again [05:02] ftp built into a text editor? weird. I use vim [05:02] [Adam|Linux]: Vim [05:02] Emacs! [05:02] VIM is nothing like Notepad++ [05:02] neither is emacs [05:02] gedit is probably the closest [05:02] <[Adam|Linux]> I just want the text highlighting and FTP basically [05:03] seanbrystone, I KNEW somebody was going to say that! :) [05:03] :D [05:03] [Adam|Linux], gedit will connect to remote drives, ie FTP/etc [05:03] dsnyder , now I just need to add to the script a line to reattach my irssi screen session [05:03] i am using ubuntu 9.04. i have a partition in ext3 format. If i reinstall ubuntu , will it recognise the partittion? [05:03] <[Adam|Linux]> thanks [05:03] Adam, gedit, I would also try Bluefish [05:03] when i wake my laptop from sleep mode, if i have a cd in the tray, it automatically launches a file browser and shows me the cd. [05:04] ankush: yes, all versions recognize ext3. It's ext4 that's a problem.... [05:04] [Adam|Linux]: you can mount the remote dirs and use any editor, gnome has a gui calles places for this [05:04] I'm trying to figure out how to use ssh to connect to a machine that can only be contacted from an intermediate machine. In the past, I'd ssh into the intermediate, then ssh from the intermediate to the machine I wanted. [05:05] I'd like to simplify that. [05:05] Does anyone use an EEEPC with karmic and figured out a way to control fan speed? [05:05] Blue1: thanks for the links, i did look at them. the issue i'm having is that i have restricted extras and i can play dvds just fine but for some reason it won't read audio cds. i did try the aac fix. [05:05] ripdisk: still there? [05:06] evilbug: i am trying to use vlc to convert an m4v (ipod file) to mp4 =-- but it complains I don't have an aac encoder although I have gstreamer and faac installed [05:06] FoolishOwl, I'm in the same boat. I think the solution is an iptables port redirection of some sort. [05:07] Losha: even on formating the parition in which ubuntu is intalled? will it do? (i jst want to reassure..sory to ask again) [05:07] dsnyders, I *think* there's a simpler way to do it with ssh, but I'm not sure. I don't have root access to the intermediate machine, anyway. [05:08] ankush: I'm not sure exactly what you're worried aboutasking. Can you rephrase it? [05:09] FoolishOwl: hard to get it much simpler than a couple of logins. An iptables solution isn't exactly what I'd call "simpler"... [05:10] FoolishOwl, there is a thing called a reverse ssh. I think what you do is point the input port at one machine and the output port at the other. [05:10] dsnyders, that sounds more like it. [05:10] FoolishOwl, I've never gotten it to work, though. === foxbuntu` is now known as foxbuntu [05:12] how do I run a bash script as another user when that user does not have a shell [05:12] Losha: ive ubuntu 9.04 in one partition , 2nd partition is ext3. I have to reinstall ubuntu .After doing it will the ext3 partirion still l be there? i mean will the data be preserved? [05:12] i use ndiswrapper to handle my pcmcia network card. sometimes when connecting to my home network, im just asked my wep key but never connects [05:12] axisys, I think you use the su command. [05:13] axisys, su = switch user. [05:13] <`mOOse`> um Super User [05:13] <`mOOse`> or Root [05:14] ankush_: if you choose 'manual partition' during install, and specify that the first partition is for /, and that the 2nd partition is *not* to be touched, it should be fine. But for complete safety, you should first make a backup of the ext3 partition if you can... [05:15] hi all i am wanting to know if i can change my os filesystem back from ext4 to ext3 without formatting [05:15] Losha: Thank you.. :) [05:16] meowbuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040029. Summary: apparently it's possible, but I wouldn't trust it with any valuable data [05:16] Losha, y is that [05:17] i'm just sick of installing from scratch its annoying [05:17] what's the off topic channel? [05:18] Anyone throw ubuntu on an HP TouchSmart 300? [05:18] dsnyders: that wont do it .. user do not have a shell [05:18] meowbuntu: because it's not a 'supported' operation, it's just something that someone did that seems to have worked (once, for them), and it's hella complicated, and a million things could go wrong and take your data with it... [05:18] `mOOse`: i like to run it as a user not as root .. [05:19] Actually, I have a question about software licenses. I know this is the incorrect channel for it. Where should I go? [05:19] axisys, try su -l user /bin/bash [05:19] #ubuntu-offtopic Sylvester_Ink [05:19] meowbuntu: besides, if you're seeing lots of disk sector problems, you have bigger problems, because your disk may be about to fail... [05:20] somebody here knows how to make a usb bootable from a bootable iso image [05:20] i tried dd ing it [05:20] ok point Losha is it possable to update teh kernel of gos which uses hardy i think [05:20] but its not booting into it showing "missing operating system" [05:20] thanks, bazhang [05:21] obscurant1st, have you messaround with the config files [05:21] meowbuntu: sorry, no idea. Isn't there a gos support channel? [05:21] but when i checked in disk utility it is showing that the usb disk is bootable. [05:21] Losha, yea thats not in use well noone ever uses it even the ppl logged in dont [05:21] axisys, there's also the -s option. man su for details. [05:21] meowbuntu, actually my system is bootable, when i try to bott from the usb only it is showing missing operating system [05:21] obscurant1st: the one thing I know doesn't work is just dd'ing an iso to a usb drive, sorry... [05:21] other than it is working fine [05:22] Losha, oh ! [05:22] obscurant1st, how did you install to the usb [05:22] obscurant1st, is this a flash drive? [05:22] yes dsnyders it is a flash drive [05:22] ^ and [05:22] meowbuntu, i did nt install anything [05:22] i just dd is [05:22] obscurant1st: you've seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick presumably? [05:22] dd it* [05:23] then if you have no os on the flashdrive then y are you trying to boot from it [05:23] ^ obscurant1st [05:23] i am in ubuntu Losha , i need to install backtrack, [05:23] thats why i am trying this. === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [05:23] obscurant1st, There are some great instructions at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/ [05:23] obscurant1st, start again. what are you trying to do [05:24] backtrack is pretty nice, i got it running in vmware player [05:24] meowbuntu, I am trying to make a bootable usb from a bootable iso image [05:24] obscurant1st, you can set up multiple ISOs on your drive and boot from any of them. [05:24] dsnyders, there is an application built into ubuntu for doing that [05:24] dsnyders, i can try that. :D [05:25] obscurant1st, hold on [05:25] k [05:25] does update-manager run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade to upgrade [05:26] obscurant1st, 1. go to system>administration>usb startup disk creator. or 2. install unetbootin and use that. [05:26] meowbuntu, ok, i will try that. [05:26] :D [05:26] thx [05:26] np [05:26] how do I compile a kernel? [05:26] Question - My menu options are a bit small on this theme I'm running. Is there a way I can control how thick they are? What I'm talking about is if I go to system - preferences, each option there is pretty darn thin. I'm wondering if I can make those controls a bit larger, resulting in everything in the menu being several pixels higher in size. [05:26] meowbuntu, I just came across that earlier today. I was wondering what it did. [05:27] obscurant1st, you will only have max 4gig for storage on an fat32 filesys but thats ok for small usb devices [05:27] yeah mine is only 2GB [05:28] obscurant1st, start with the ubuntu built in one its simpler and easier [05:28] meowbuntu, yep [05:28] once you have got the hang of that try unetbootin [05:28] Why aren't things like Apache in the Ubuntu Software center? [05:28] !kernelcompile | Cann0n [05:28] Cann0n: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages === ballen is now known as Guest31952 [05:29] Guest31952: because it's not a GUI app [05:29] ohhhhhhhh [05:29] makes sense [05:29] thanks [05:29] np [05:29] I followed that and jsut crashed my computer and had to reinstall [05:29] meowbuntu, actually using that i cnnot select the iso file [05:30] yes you can [05:30] i think i will have to run it as rrot [05:30] meowbuntu, i mean it is not letting me to [05:30] strange [05:30] as i select and click on ok, nothing is shown at the place where it is suupposed to show up [05:30] you need to have your usb plugged in first [05:31] yep its already plugged it [05:31] in* [05:31] obscurant1st, click on other select the iso file and it should come up. [05:32] doing it as root is ok [05:32] ok [05:32] should not need to [05:32] 1 sec, ithink my usb is not gettin detected now. [05:32] :( [05:32] obscurant1st, have fun playing search on google adn come back if you want to [05:33] i am formatting it in windows [05:33] :d [05:33] how do i compile source? [05:33] obscurant1st, make sure its not mounted unplug then replug [05:33] !source [05:33] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [05:33] I NEED HELP [05:33] now its working [05:33] let me try with that startup disk creator [05:34] !ask | DaltonStone [05:34] DaltonStone: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:34] why not just tell people to use google.com? [05:34] i just got my ubuntu cd and it wont install [05:34] it says i dont have a root file [05:34] you mean root filesystem? [05:35] obscurant1st, tryal and error. its just the same as the live cd. but on a usb. [05:35] yes when i try to make a partion [05:35] meowbuntu, i shoud unmount it first or what? [05:35] !source [05:35] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [05:35] !google | Cann0n [05:35] Cann0n: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [05:35] -!- No results found [05:35] DaltonStone: you must edit one of the partitions and tell it the mount point is / [05:36] so, if I have a real question, is there anyone here that could answer it without using a bot? [05:36] meowbuntu, another thing is, when i open the application, the usb disk gets automounted [05:36] obscurant1st, unmount then replug in the usb and it will auto mount it [05:36] well i had windows 7 on the hard drive and i want to install ubuntu [05:37] How do I change the registers for my MMC reader? [05:37] and it gives me a choose to side by side or take up the hole harddrive [05:37] DaltonStone: have you created a Linux partition yet? [05:37] yes. obscurant1st dont get distracted just playaround by your self you will learn that way [05:37] meowbuntu, ok. :D [05:37] no im kinda new in this started 2 months ago [05:37] DaltonStone: yeah, I'd recommend the side-by-side option if you want to keep Windows 7 [05:37] no i hate it [05:37] oh that's good — format the whole drive then :) [05:37] DaltonStone, wait [05:38] hoe [05:38] how [05:38] if you have data, just install it side by side remove the boot options for that [05:38] DaltonStone, i'll give you $50 for your origional copy of win7 if you dont want it [05:38] it was a beta i dont thank you want it [05:38] anyone knows where I can download nvu from? [05:39] na i got the betta and that is going to run out in a couple of months [05:39] in ten days [05:39] DaltonStone, after the ubuntu installation just delete the partition [05:39] tucemiux, google uvu downloads [05:39] so, I need to change the address of my MMC memory register. IT's in hex, I know that, but how do i edit it? [05:39] but it wont let me [05:39] Is it in hal? [05:39] i need step by step by phone [05:40] jayveee:i have ubuntu 9.10 in one partition and ubutu 9.04 in other. whenevr i try to format ubuntu 9.04 the system doesnt boot? can u help? [05:40] DaltonStone: I'll call you. [05:40] <`mOOse`> oh dear [05:40] losha: still here [05:40] jayveee: sorry ..that was ubuntu 9.10 that i wish to partition [05:41] Hi! I've installed Lucid (yes I know it isn't released yet), should I report bugs I find there? [05:41] ripdisk: I'm beat. Can we call it a night & try again tomorrow? [05:41] k can i get your number [05:41] tucemiux, do you want uvu application or addon [05:41] can dpkg tell me which application installed x file> [05:41] ? [05:42] meowbuntu, sorry i meant to say nvu [05:42] wolter: check out dpkg -S in man dpkg [05:42] HeMan, of course - that's what the beta is for ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs [05:42] meowbuntu, nvu application [05:42] ankush_: ouch [05:42] ankush_: unfortunately I'm about to go offline, so can't help you [05:42] so no one knows how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader? [05:42] well does ubuntu have a phone number [05:42] somebody else help ankush_ ? [05:42] isn't there a bot command for it? [05:42] jayveee: ok..thankx anyway [05:43] HeMan, please do, you can use launchpad to do that, you can also use #ubuntu+1 to discuss the bugs you find on lucid [05:43] ZykoticK9: ok, I wasn't sure since it's only alpha yet [05:43] !nvu [05:43] kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy and later releases. Note that there is a GTK incompatibility in !Intrepid and !Jaunty, so users of those releases should use the !PPA at https://launchpad.net/~giuseppe-iuculano/+archive/ppa instead. === ankush_ is now known as ankush [05:43] !mmc [05:43] ^ tucemiux [05:43] hey [05:44] this page has to be modified [05:44] tucemiux: I usually try to do bugreporting (and sometimes triageing) on bugs I find [05:44] tucemiux, did you see that [05:44] meowbuntu, thanks, I hate using PPA's, I'd rather just install the deb package [05:44] it makes now 2 days i'm trying juste to install this release (and i'm not a newbie) with an nvidia card, it's not working [05:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/MobileKarmicMoblinRemix?action=show [05:44] thanks Losha [05:44] meowbuntu, yes I did find it [05:44] great [05:44] so no one knows how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader? [05:44] meowbuntu, can you check seomthing on your system for me, in that startup creator the options which comes under the device to use, i mane that slider and radio button, are they greyed out or active? [05:44] the guys who made this release must have had an ati and forgot that some people may have some nvidia === titaniumbrella is now known as Carbonish [05:45] hold on obscurant1st [05:45] i went crazy i nearly tried everything [05:45] k [05:45] i know all files by heart , took files even from the real moblin version (fed) [05:45] HeMan, sometimes you can get a lot more help on launchpad with bugs than in the support channel, if you continually test on your machine I suspect the official release will work without issues out of the box on the machine you tested [05:47] meowbuntu, so basically nvu is ded and kompozer is the living continuation of the application? [05:47] obscurant1st, that is for saving sessions to on the usb. incase you want to create a save file. if you just want ti to be a live sustem for installing to say a netbook tehn select the discarded on shutdown. adn anything you do woll be lost. [05:47] tucemiux, so it seems i have ndever used it [05:48] so can anyone help me [05:48] but the thing is in my case it is greyed out, its not active. [05:48] i think there is some problem [05:48] tucemiux, google and find out more info [05:48] Can I get help? [05:48] anyone have any suggestions on a keylogger? [05:48] !ask| DaltonStone [05:48] DaltonStone: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:48] !ask | DaltonStone [05:48] meowbuntu, thanks, I already installed it [05:48] lll [05:49] meowbuntu, but the thing is in my case it is greyed out, its not active. [05:49] Cann0n, ask your question, all in one line, if anyone knows the answer they will surely reply [05:49] how are you ? [05:49] !ot | the_ajunk [05:49] the_ajunk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [05:49] I need no know how to change the memory address on an MMC card reader? [05:49] obscurant1st, have you selected your iso image and device to install to [05:49] i cant install ubuntu [05:49] yes [05:49] ^ then it will work [05:49] the_ajunk: I'm fine. You? [05:50] DaltonStone, you need an iso [05:50] meowbuntu, no its not getting selected, after selectin it and clickin on ok, doesnot change anything, the whole window remains the same. [05:50] i just got the ubuntu cd though [05:51] i need a decent easily accesible keylogger for ubuntu any ideas? [05:51] meowbuntu, maybe i should try the other application u mentioned [05:51] meowbuntu, mind teeling it again pls? [05:51] telling* [05:51] Cann0n, you want to change the "memory address" of a card reader? are you an advanced user? [05:51] josh: try using screen or something [05:51] obscurant1st, have you checked the iso immage. you need to do a checksum on it. adn see if its the same as the one from the website. if not then the iso is currupted [05:51] i think it will log too.. [05:51] !checksum [05:51] i just got the ubuntu cd though [05:51] obscurant1st: did you format the USB stick as FAT32? [05:51] ripdisk...its just called screen? [05:52] yep its fat32 [05:52] let me check the md5 [05:52] i min [05:52] while installing Google Chrome from the Archives i get this error description at the very end "installArchives() failed" [05:52] tucemiux: I'm trying to get my onboard MMC card reader working. It's calling the wrong memory address... I doubt anyone here can help me because I've already tried !mmc and the retarded bot didn't know what I was talking about. [05:52] obscurant1st, no the iso immage of ubuntu [05:52] Since 95% of this channel's help comes from the bot, I cuess I'm screwed. === logankoester is now known as firefly [05:53] meowbuntu, iso img of ubuntu? [05:53] Cann0n, thats not true. the bot is accessed by users and containes basic info that is commonly asked in the channel [05:53] i dont need USB bot for iso image of ubuntu [05:53] i need it for iso imgae of backtrack [05:53] Hey guys, I have an issue with Evolution. I think my net died while trying to send an email and now whenever I open Evolution or try to receive email, it sends the same email out. This is pretty tedious for the receiver of the email. There's an option to "Cancel the current mail operation" though it doesn't do anything. [05:53] obscurant1st, are you new to ubuntu and linux [05:53] josh: i'm sorry, i probably shouldn't have said anything. [05:54] anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005? [05:54] no!! :O why, am i behaving like one? [05:54] josh: i'm not a helper here, but i know 'screen'' lets you look what another user is typing in console..; [05:54] meowbuntu, the iso check sum is the same [05:54] ok start again [05:54] meowbuntu: might as well tell people to use google, since it's actually quicker to get more detailed help by googling the buntu forums. however, I haven't found anyone with my issue an the forums. most the threads are about compiz fusion [05:54] Cann0n, so your question is you want to configure your MMC card reader to work, that is why no one gave a reply, changing the memory address is not an easy thing to do since that is done by the operating system, what you really want to do is have your MMC Card Reader working with ubuntu which I dont believe is possible since it looks like that piece of hardware is not supported, you can probably search the forum or open a bug report in [05:54] launchpad and request for a driver to be written [05:55] <`mOOse`> Cann0n the question you are asking is highly unusual and only the app developer would really be able to help you - Sorry we dissapoint you [05:55] how do I set the Xkb Options in Ubuntu? [05:55] obscurant1st, shut down the application start again i never had this much truble. [05:55] I want to set my Compose key [05:55] lol ok...so it will let me come to my computer and see what has been typed through out the day? [05:55] obscurant1st, 1 thing is the usb still fat32 [05:55] i need to make a bootable usb of backtrack from the iso image, [05:55] <`mOOse`> and Cann0n - personally the tone you're taking isn't helping [05:55] `mOOse`: but this channel has HOW many users? It's the biggest support chan on freenode. [05:55] oh meowbuntu you didnt ask me to start over the problem.. ooops.. :D [05:56] josh: no. but you can set it up for logging. let me look for something [05:56] i tried it several times.. :( [05:56] <`mOOse`> Cann0n and your point is? If there's someone in here who can help you they will - your continuously badgering the channel will get you nowhere [05:56] Id like to add my own tags to a jpgs from a script and then import the images into fspot and be able to use the tags ive added.... Any suggestions? [05:56] meowbuntu, pls tell me the other application you mentioned earlier for this. [05:56] ripdisk ok thanks [05:56] anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005? [05:57] <`mOOse`> Cann0n - you're not grasping the level of complexity of your task [05:57] anyone know which menu lets you set Xkb settings in Ubuntu? I see nothing like that. [05:57] josh: there's not really too many ''legal'' reasons for a keylogger.. [05:57] unetbootin. you can try that but the ubuntu one works fine. maby its the iso file you have not being reckognised. ??? [05:57] !google > Cann0n [05:57] Cann0n, please see my private message [05:57] -!- No results found [05:57] josh: if you're worried about what other people are doing on your computer, set up user accounts for them [05:57] Id like to do the Ubuntu equivalent of what's on this page --- http://www.hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html [05:57] fspot has an option of saving tags to metadata of jpgs but i cant see them when I look at the images using exiv2 [05:57] obscurant1st, also maby it only works with ubuntu baised os. [05:57] I guess telling people to use google is about as best help I will get. [05:58] I obviously came to the wrong place... [05:58] meowbuntu, oh, it may be like that.. :( [05:58] ripdisk: though there are many "illegal" type things i could do with a logger and might want to do this is not the situation at all [05:58] sigh... [05:58] oh [05:58] well i don't think there's a keylogger [05:58] but i know linux lets you look at what programs a user has used [05:58] Cann0n, is the MMD card reader built in on a laptop? [05:58] used* [05:58] ripdisk" just more trying to weed through the bullshit of a relationship im in lol [05:59] tucemiux: MMC, and yes [05:59] josh_: definitely offtopic for #ubuntu :) [05:59] !checksum [05:59] emma; i know sorry [05:59] <`mOOse`> there are a few legitimate uses for a keylogger - parents use them all the time [05:59] !check md5 [06:00] <`mOOse`> they install as rootkits ;-) [06:00] what changes to made to make ubuntu laptop friendly?? [06:00] Cann0n, that is a known bug, maybe this thread will help you, the easiest solution is to just purchase a cheap USB card reader, they run around $10, you can look at this thread if you really want your card reader to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285039 [06:00] I've been to that thread. Has nothing to do with my issue. [06:01] I guess you should create a bug report than. [06:01] then* [06:01] All I have to do is change the hex address of the device. [06:01] obscurant1st, are you having luck installing unetbootin [06:02] chu_: bug reports don't solve issues. I've been on bugzilla for years. [06:02] Cann0n, create a bug report [06:02] moose: where would i get a root kit? dumb question i know but finding a good linux logger is proving difficult [06:02] can somone advice me to choose the best UI for a tablet computer having good performances ? (i want something user useable and with good effects, got nvidia chipset) [06:02] That would be very cool [06:02] tucemiux: it's not a bug... I just have to change the address... [06:02] !md5 obscurant1st [06:02] * Cann0n face palms. [06:02] Cann0n, have you used launchpad to file a bug report? [06:03] Is there a software repository that enables me to install closed-source software (Google Earth, for example)? [06:03] cause there's not so much release except Moblin wich is completly buggy [06:03] tucemiux: have you tried googling go-fucks-yourself? [06:03] !md5 sysdoc [06:03] fixword: u can install google earth by downloading setup file from their website [06:03] Cann0n, if it doesnt work out of the box, it's a bug [06:03] Nice, intelligent guy that Cann0n. [06:03] fixworx: u can install google earth by downloading setup file from their website [06:03] !md5 | sysdoc [06:03] sysdoc: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [06:03] <`mOOse`> josh_ - I don't know :-) [06:03] hmm. what window manager should i install to mess around with in virtualbox? [06:04] fixworx: i have installed it [06:04] anyone with strong linux & webcam experience? [06:04] moose: lol ok fair enough [06:04] abhi_nav, i'll give it a shot, thanks :) just wondering if someone maintains a repository for something like all the software that exists for ubuntu [06:05] meowbuntu, i am tryin it [06:05] i mean the unetbooting thing [06:05] :d [06:05] good just have fun [06:09] ##security [06:11] Which cpufreq governor do I want if I want it to step through all the available states instead of just flicking back and forth between extremes? [06:11] hey does anyone know hoe to use the rsync command? [06:11] the man does [06:11] i am having some trouble using it [06:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync titan_ark [06:12] LSD|Ninja, have you tried Gnome's "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" panel applet [06:13] hello [06:13] im new to ubuntu [06:13] whats a good guide on starting up ? [06:13] ZykoticK9: Yeah, that's how I know it's flicking between the two extremes [06:13] bazhang, i have read thro its man, the problem i am facing is that the destination path partition name has a space and i get an error that the destination path dpes not exist [06:14] Bublik: u could start with ubuntu pocket guide [06:14] titan_ark, try using a \ before the space [06:15] titan_ark, like\ this\ for\ example [06:15] Bublik: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html [06:15] ZykoticK9, thanks shall try it [06:15] titan_ark, you can also use quotes around the path [06:16] but forward slashes work better [06:16] ZykoticK9, semitones thanks a ton! seems to work! shall check what all got copied now =) [06:17] Bublik, try this one :) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ [06:18] thank ^_^ [06:18] Is there a chance that doing cat /proc/cpuinfo could tell me the wrong frequency for a processor with scaling? [06:18] ArtyG: it depends on what you mean by "wrong". It'll tell you the frequency of whatever state its in when you cat it [06:18] Bublik, you're welcome :) [06:18] cool! works like a charm!!! [06:18] I ran a benchmark, and it keeps telling me that it's 800MHz. [06:19] Now i need to find a way to schedule it using crontab!!! [06:19] Linux rox! :D [06:20] ArtyG: What CPU is it? 800MHz is the lowest start on my Phenom II which is where it stays most of the time. That's what I'm asking about now actually. It takes a bit of a kick to get it to move out of 800MHz and it just jumos straight to 3GHz where under Windows it would flick between 2-3 other states depending on the load [06:20] Intel Atom N270. [06:20] Tops out at 1.6GHz [06:21] hiii [06:21] ArtyG: Putting the frequency scaling monitor on your panel will let you know when it changes states [06:21] Not to be a communist, but I'm actually using Xubuntu, which seems not to have a scaling monitor. [06:21] Unless I just missed it. [06:22] ArtyG: xfce possibly has something similar, but I wouldn't have the first clue what it is [06:22] you should be able to install gnome's scaling monitor in the toolbar if xfce doesn't have it [06:24] ArtyG: don't install the EEE apps in synaptic [06:24] ArtyG: they break a lot [06:25] Ahhh, there we go. [06:25] Does anyone know much about Evolution? [06:25] Found an Xfce frequency monitor. [06:25] Guess it is scaling, I just couldn't see it from catting /proc/cpuinfo [06:26] Boy, 9.10 is great. All my hardware works out of the box now. Woop woop. [06:27] * B|aSS is away: Yeah dude, Im Away! [06:28] !info evolution | chu_ [06:28] woop woop! dats da sound of da police [06:28] chu_: evolution (source: evolution): groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 2363 kB, installed size 7020 kB [06:28] ArtyG: cpuinfo only reports the frequency it's at when you cat it which will almost certainly be the lowest frequency state most of the time. If you catch it in a higher frequency state, then that's what you'll see. Now, if only they'd adjust it to report multicore/HT CPUs (1 entry per physical CPU with extra entries for core and thread count) properly. [06:28] If I install postfix, will I be able to send mails from my dynamic Ip adress ? [06:28] why does it say is optional? its not optional [06:29] indus, optional means your system will still function if it's uninstalled [06:29] semitones, ok thanks, makes sense now [06:29] !info linux-image [06:29] linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.31.19.32 (karmic), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all) [06:29] can I burn a 700meg iso onto a dvd and have it work? [06:29] Entelin, sure [06:29] !info mountall [06:29] mountall (source: mountall): filesystem mounting tool. In component main, is required. Version 1.0 (karmic), package size 79 kB, installed size 268 kB [06:30] ok cool [06:30] mmpff [06:30] Entelin, or a usb flash key [06:30] semitones, thanks, i see now [06:30] indus, sure thing, also see !packaging [06:30] Entelin, what iso? [06:30] debian install disk [06:30] !packaging [06:30] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [06:31] i'm out of regular cd's [06:31] Entelin, of course, dvd's work too [06:31] ok great [06:31] Entelin: Have a USB stick? [06:31] Entelin, so want to boot debian? [06:31] Yep, indus I have Evolution installed. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with it, enough to answer some questions? [06:31] !DEBIAN [06:31] Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [06:32] msgthebot > indus [06:32] chu_, well most will have basic configuration info here [06:32] er [06:32] semitones, yes /msg ubottu <> [06:32] i know [06:32] kk [06:32] Nah, it's configured - I've been using it for a good 6 months, but I've come up with an issue. [06:32] chu_, like what issue thy face [06:33] indus, this channel already scrolls really fast -- investigating the bot too much makes it that much harder to read [06:33] i always get the send mail part of evo wrong [06:33] I think my net died while trying to send an email and now whenever I open Evolution or try to receive email, it sends the same email out. This is pretty tedious for the receiver of the email. There's an option to "Cancel the current mail operation" though it doesn't do anything. [06:34] chu_, ah yes i have faced this, but haveto search my brain, you mean, it doesnt really delete from send queue right? [06:34] Yep, exactly. [06:35] hey guys im trying to use my ipod touch with jaunty? anybody familiar with ifuse? for some reason im not able to mount the touch, i can see the pics but not any of the other stuff? === Nightwolf42 is now known as Nightwolf [06:36] Is there any twitter extension for Chrome ? [06:36] i mean better than ChromeBird.. did not quite like it [06:37] chu_,ok i need you to go through the steps you are trying to delete it ,so i can recollect [06:37] chu_, one thing i remember though is expunge , from folders menu [06:38] chu_, i mean, it clears the delete folder , did you delete the mail from the outbox? [06:38] indus, I haven't yet no. [06:39] How do I force firefox to revert to the version from the ubuntu repos instead of the version in the mozilla ppa I loaded? [06:39] chu_, then it will keep sending but should clear once sent [06:39] indus, if I go to my sent box, it actually doesn't display any email I've sent for the past few months, unfortunately. [06:39] chu_, mm i think i had a diff problem [06:39] chu_, did you delete the .evo folder? [06:39] I haven't touched anything yet. [06:39] meh, never mind, I'll just force version for now [06:40] er, that wants to remove songbird, java plugin, etc so lets not do that [06:40] chu_, can you open the .evolution folder and check under mail [06:41] chu_, but its too many files nvm [06:41] Ok, I'm in mail - would I go into imap? [06:41] chu_, no thats for receive i think [06:41] anyone else find that X11 no longer seems able to talk to the nvidia driver? [06:42] chu_, go to local [06:42] chu_, i am just guessing here [06:42] Now outbox? [06:42] chu_, i just deleted the .evolution folder and restarted, but backed up all mail [06:42] chu_, check outbox index [06:43] Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :( [06:43] Hey, if I emacs the Outbox file (in .evolution/local) there's the bastardly email! [06:43] It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place! No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right. They never will! The same goes for New Orleans! Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed. What have the niggers in N [06:43] ew Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum [06:43] RecycleCorn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:43] chu_, heh [06:43] Wow, does that happen often? [06:44] chu_, hmm yes sometimes [06:44] chu_: once is too often [06:44] chu_, so i guess deleting that should be reasonably safe [06:44] chu_, try and see [06:44] If I just delete this Outbox file - which only contains this evil email, should all be good? [06:45] Yeah alright, thanks for the help indus [06:45] anyone already install ubuntu in toshiba u505s2005? [06:45] chu_,do make sure it still doesnt show in outbox [06:45] Recylecorn:whois civlilised [06:46] anybody familiar with ipod touch and ubuntu? [06:46] or a good way to remote a ubuntu system? [06:46] Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :( [06:46] Whoops, I don't think Evolution like that [06:46] chu_, why [06:46] Now I get an error [06:47] /j kkkkkkkkkk [06:47] /j #kkkkkkkkkk [06:47] Sweet, looks like he may have gone away [06:47] w3rd_: iSSH has an X server and VNC client. It's a paid app though, but as near as I can tell, it's pretty much the best such app for iPhone/iPod touch [06:48] Bugger, nopr [06:48] nope* [06:48] chu_, restart evo [06:48] Can anyone give me help with a Ubuntu problem? [06:48] !ask [06:48] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [06:48] <_dumont> test [06:49] Cool. [06:49] Still get the error indus - something about "Cannot get message from folder" [06:49] At least it's not sending an email now though :p [06:49] chu_, yes some cache thing , manually deleted message from folder outbox? [06:50] I'd like to rename a bunch of files programmatically. they're all formatted garbage_text_real_filename, and I'd like just real_filename. what's the quick, scripty way to do this? [06:50] Hi. I have a monitor which has got 1600*900 resolution..gfx card also supports it..but on Ubuntu, even with drivers,,I get max of 1240 *800 :( [06:50] I don't actually have an Outbox folder per say - I have something called Sent, but the last email in that was one I sent 8/12/2009 .... :/ [06:51] I can't 'su root'. I'm running Ubuntu in Sun VirtualBox. During the install, I was not prompted to setup a root account. Therefore when Ubuntu came up I didn't have a root password. Now I can't access root through the shell. Is there something I don't know about? [06:51] linkiduu: your monitor may not be reporting the correct EDID info so the drivers have no idea what the native res is. Was it working properly with the generic ones before you installed the other ones? [06:51] how can i tell if I am using the 32 or 64 bit release? i dont recall which I installed... /proc/version doesnt specify it [06:51] !sudo [06:51] sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) [06:51] geeksatlarge: use sudo [06:51] Linux version 2.6.32-020632-generic (root@zinc) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #020632 SMP Thu Dec 3 10:58:45 UTC 2009 [06:52] is that 32 bit? [06:52] LSD|Ninja: it works properly on WIndows [06:52] I know a perl one-liner would work, but it seems like something I ought to be able to do with just the shell [06:52] Entelin: uname -m gives you the machine [06:52] Thanks, I'll try that. Bye! [06:52] is there a unix wildcard that specifies the end of the filename, ex) ls *.png should not include image.png.cropped [06:53] ok great thanks [06:53] * bittin is away: d [06:53] linkiduu: So do a lot of things. First thing you have to learn about Linux is hardware support is either good, or downright terrible, there's no middle ground. When you first booted the livecd to install Ubuntu, was it at the right resolution? [06:53] mrb427: && ^*.chopped [06:54] Entelin, uname -a [06:54] Shazam: so ls *.png && ^*.chopped [06:54] * bittin is back (gone 00:00:06) [06:54] Shazam: that will return only things ENDING in .png?? [06:54] in liveboot cd , it was only 800*600..after I installed drivers..it came to 1024 [06:54] mrb427: if you want to list just the files that end in .png, then ls *.png will do that for you [06:55] why am i awake? [06:55] Shazam: oh, sorry, i mispoke. I need it to return only things ending in .png and not things like .cropped.png [06:57] hello [06:57] anyone know where is the pidgin directory? i want to look for history in it history of old chats [06:58] Shazam: to be clear, ls *.png should return file.png and file2.png etc but not file.cropped.png [06:58] home/.purple [06:58] indus - looking through the Evolution FAQ and there is nothing, now unfortunately with a name like evolution google isn't very friendly (I would have thought with asking about email in evolution would be obvious to google, but apparently not), do you know where you got the information? [06:58] !patience [06:58] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [06:58] yay ubottu is back [06:58] :D [06:58] chu_, i just g uessed :) [06:59] chu_, generally all data is saved locally in hidden dir [06:59] Yeah, the data's gone now, but it still thinks I want to send an email - for which there is no data! and I can't work out how to tell it not to. [06:59] If I install the KDE from the repos, is it KDE4.4? [07:00] Ishan: you can see the pidigin logs in /home/USERNAME/.purple/logs [07:01] Sa[i]nT, i think its 4.3, [07:01] chu_, just restart your pc [07:02] chu_, or clear cache , ther is an option somewher in menu [07:05] Will upgrade affect my bookmarks in Firefox???? [07:06] mrb427: ls -l *.png | perl -lne 'print if $_ !~ /cropped/' [07:06] Hello room' [07:06] hsr: No it should not. Also, use XMark addon. It is awesome for sync-ing your bookmarks with a server (and to sync with other machines too). [07:06] mrb427: not the most elegant way to do it, but it gets it done [07:07] What do I type in the terminal to install kde [07:08] hi, is there a rss reader that works in console? [07:08] Sa[i]nT, install the package kubuntu-desktop [07:08] Sa[i]nT: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [07:08] Hey all. Since the last round of updates went out, Firefox is no longer starting for me. No error, just about 5 seconds of the busy cursor, then returns to idle. Any thoughts? [07:08] faultyground: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? [07:08] kinja-sheep: Thank you [07:08] rww: Sorry, 9.10 [07:09] faultyground: ah, okay. Not the problem I was thinking of, then :) [07:09] faultyground: try opening firefox in a terminal, should give you some diagnosis information [07:09] chu_: will do, trying now [07:10] Hello again, how can i change paper size of any pdf? [07:10] chu_: "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1 and 1.9.1.*." [07:10] like a zoom? === ak_ is now known as rainy-day [07:10] * rothsdad hey all, could anybody recommend a cli rss reader plz [07:11] faultyground: Don't know if there's a resolution (my net is too slow to load graphical sites at the moment for some reason), but this might have something: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360940 [07:11] chu_: I'll read up on it and see if theres anything there, thanks =) [07:12] how can I browse with IE6 in Ubuntu and enjoy the effect of Active X control enabled? [07:12] * faultyground KA-OPERA! [07:12] I'm trying to load it, but chances are it will load at least 10x faster on your end. Frustrating me. [07:12] you can install it through wine..but you can emulate ie6. by using a firefox addon called user agent changer [07:14] linkiduu:i have wine installed already. what do i do next? [07:14] if it asks for .net support ..install mono [07:14] then download ie6 setup [07:14] how do you unload a module? [07:15] Shazam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360512 [07:16] Possibly not, I'm trying to load the page, but it will take a long time so it's easier for you to read it. Sorry [07:16] does anyone here know how to check a new hd with smartctl or hdparm or smart montools? I plugged in a 2TB SATA but it is not coming up in /dev and it is not warm to the touch, nor is it listed in fdisk [07:16] I need to partition it though [07:17] herbero, it shouldnt warm if not used at all [07:18] To get by this winter season, I use bunch of old HDDs instead of a radiator. =\ [07:18] lol [07:18] indus, should killing x count as a reboot? I just don't want to reboot if possible. [07:18] indus: that is what I figured, but I thought maybe I just wasn't accessing/mounting it so it might not be as hot. In any case, I would still like to check it within my comp [07:18] chu_: got it, reinstalled xulrunner via synaptic, problem solved, thanks for the link =) [07:19] herbero: Have you reboot? [07:19] im in tha HOUSE! [07:19] is there any good dvd maker on linux? [07:19] faultyground: Glad it worked out for you. [07:19] kinja-sheep, yes [07:19] with menu maker [07:19] herbero: It is toggled on in the BIOS? [07:19] Hello , what are Gnu/Linux benefits , specifications that distinguish it from all other OS's ? [07:20] alabd: freedom [07:20] Homework? [07:20] !info devede | blackrock [07:20] blackrock: devede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.14.0-0ubuntu5 (karmic), package size 1518 kB, installed size 3560 kB [07:20] GNU/Linux is a magical unicorn that flies through our dreams. That's the main benefit. [07:20] Mmm. be back hopefully. [07:21] thx kinja-sheep, ubottu [07:22] Well, killing X did nothing to resolve the issue. [07:23] u know where i can get proposal for file sharing server using ubuntu?? [07:29] ArQiLLiOnS: Pardon? You want to set-up a file sharing server which is running Ubuntu? [07:29] yes... [07:30] is that possible...? [07:30] it is right, im new so need more info [07:30] ArQiLLiOnS: What sort of sharing are you hoping for? [07:35] actually im looking for a high speed network, linking to 4 MacPro`s, for editing purposes on HD...they need fast transfer rate, to cut the transfer time, plus the want to centralized all of their movie clips, wat hardware plus should i consider "optic cable"? [07:36] ArQiLLiOnS: er. You're talking about physical network? That'd be a different channel [07:37] ArQiLLiOnS: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/ [07:37] !nfs [07:37] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [07:37] well im considering using Ubuntu for the server OS, cuz they only need to use the server as a storage device [07:37] That's the software you want to use [07:37] (NFS if you just need to talk between *nixes, including OSX) [07:37] aggregated 1000basex [07:38] I mean basesx [07:38] Is UF down or is my net just really bad? I seem to be able to load google roughly ok, but UF is just terrible.... [07:38] is it possible to make a global directory shortcut? Like for example ~/ is short for /home/usrname, i would like to make one called e.g. arb/ which should correspond to /media/Traydata/arbejde ? [07:39] Diverdude: I think it's a symbolic link? [07:39] chu_, i see...how are those made? [07:39] how bout the transferring? any suggestions? how to make it faster? fiber optic? [07:39] cuz they deal alot in HD format [07:40] herbero, sudo fdisk -l will show [07:40] ArQiLLiOns: aggregated 1000basesx [07:40] chu_, so is it still there? [07:40] indus, yeah unfortunately. [07:40] ArQiLLiOns: fiber aggregating tap [07:41] Diverdude: Check this out, don't know what it says, but it was the top link from google on symbolic link with ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/user-guide/C/gosnautilus-8.html [07:41] indus: yeah, it is not there [07:41] indus: so they sent me a bunk one [07:41] herbero, external disk? [07:41] herbero, works on windows? [07:41] thanx paotzu [07:43] Yo yo yo [07:44] chu_, i do not think symbolic link is the solution [07:44] ActionParsnip will most definitely have a solution Diverdude ... Repeat your question :p [07:45] what if i dont want to convert it to ethernet from fiber, meaning fiber all the way? am i asking the right question :) [07:45] Chu_: he he. Bit tired but I'll try. [07:45] is it possible to make a global directory shortcut? Like for example ~/ is short for /home/usrname, i would like to make one called e.g. arb/ which should correspond to /media/Traydata/arbejde ? [07:45] Chu_: thanks btw ;) [07:45] ActionParsnip, yo yo [07:46] Diverdude: could create an export in .bashrc [07:46] Diverdude: you can then use: cd $arb [07:46] Is UF getting hammered by extreme traffic? It just won't load anything for me... === ankush__ is now known as ankush [07:46] Indus: werd up bro [07:47] ActionParsnip, werd? iam fine thanks [07:47] ActionParsnip, good day? [07:47] ArQiLLiOns: maybe that is #hardware question. What you want is multiple 802.3ad capable cards and trunk the connections into one super connection, if I understand your question. [07:47] Chu_: try: http://www.isitdownorisitme.com [07:47] ActionParsnip, well what if i am then in location a and i want to do a cp $arb/something to $arb/somethingElse will that be possible? [07:47] Indus: long and very tired [07:47] Diverdude: absolutely [07:48] Diverdude: there are a few already setup like $HOME [07:48] ok paotzu, thanx alot! [07:48] ActionParsnip, okay...how do i make such an export? [07:48] ActionParsnip: I'm assuming if it's me that site won't load? [07:48] Indus: 12 hour NOC shift. Although 4 days off now [07:48] ah sys admin woes [07:49] hi i am on live usb os playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks. [07:49] AeQiLLiOnS: the ubuntu part is just a few edits to /etc/network/interfaces [07:49] can anyone invite me to be in #hardware [07:49] Diverdude: export arb="/media/Traydata/arbejde" [07:49] ActionParsnip: don't let the long day make you forget that !offtopic factoid :) [07:49] Other than wine, are there any other good Windows emulators/compatibility layers out there? [07:49] any ideas [07:50] virtualbox [07:50] ArQiLLiOnS: you basically have the answer, there are not too many ways of doing this aside from extremely expensive equipment [07:50] Diverdude: put that in $HOME/.bashrc then run: source $HOME/.bashrc [07:50] Yerushalmi, wine is 'Wine Is Not an Emulator [07:50] hi I'm working on using grub2 on a usb flash drive to boot various isos from and I managed to get the latest ubuntu livecd loaded using a guide I found in the forums but it causes it to boot directly to the livecd and won't show the menu that the real disc shows. Is there anyway to allow it to load the iso as if I were loading it from a disc in my cd drive instead of automatically booting to the livecd? [07:50] Mnetpok: my bad [07:50] I was using this post btw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 [07:50] indus: That's why I said "compatibility layer" also :p [07:50] hi [07:50] can someone help me setting up my tvtime. SAA7130 [07:50] Yerushalmi, crossover i think [07:50] well, i know its goin` to be expensive... [07:50] Yerushalmi, yea noticed that later :) [07:50] but atleast i have sumting to show to my client [07:50] need some help [07:50] Yerushalmi, qemu is emulator though [07:50] sickly: I tried using virtualbox but I don't get it. Don't you need to install windows "into" it? [07:50] !qemu [07:51] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [07:51] i dont want them to use windows server [07:51] ActionParsnip: no worries. forced march days at call centers kill anyone. [07:51] ActionParsnip, just append it in the bottom of the file? [07:51] yes [07:51] sickly: Then no go, I don't have windows :p [07:51] Mnetpok: its my normal day. 4 on 4 off ;) [07:51] Diverdude: sure [07:51] hi i am on live usb os playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks. [07:51] hi i am on live usb os playing youtube videos they are speed up everyone sounds like teh chipmunks. [07:51] indus: which would you suggest to try first, crossover or qemu? [07:51] meowbuntu: really, is there any reason for a parroting? [07:52] hey guys i need some help with flash plugin in ubuntu [07:52] ActionParsnip, nice :) thx m8 [07:52] hi there [07:52] Yerushalmi, i dont have experience in either, but you should try both since one is an emu and one is a compatibility layer thing [07:52] syn-ack: oops am in several chanels my mistake [07:52] Qemu's the emu, I assume? :) [07:52] thegeekyhaxor: such as? [07:53] gents, what could I use to send mail without installing any MTA... I need just in send mail, not receive [07:53] !emulator [07:53] !EMU [07:53] qemu is like its own virtual machine. [07:53] indus: can't find crossover in Ubuntu software center, where is it? [07:53] syn-ack ... i have installed the flash plugin, but the controls dont work... such as i cant pause a video et al [07:53] !qemu [07:53] qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [07:53] I think my question has gotten overlooked [07:53] thegeekyhaxor: 64 bit machine? === JimmyJ is now known as JimmyJ|zz [07:53] Diverdude: you can do tonnes of mad stuff in bash like that [07:53] syn-ack, yep [07:53] Yerushalmi, its not free [07:54] as far as i know [07:54] thegeekyhaxor: nspluginwrapper is crashing. [07:54] !ask | Haldrie [07:54] Haldrie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [07:54] indus: Aha. [07:54] Haldrie: ask again now [07:54] syn-ack, so reinstalling it will solve the prob? [07:54] Yerushalmi: If you don't have windows and you [07:54] Yerushalmi, maybe if you tell the channel what you are looking or trying to do,someone might suggest some good things [07:54] thegeekyhaxor: I removed all of the flash non-free stuff, including the wrapper, and installed the beta of the linux 64 bit player [07:55] thegeekyhaxor: no, it wont [07:55] Thegeekyhaxor: tried the 64bit flash plugin? [07:55] When using TV-Out with nvidia's binary driver, my TV picture extends past the edges of my TV. How do I fix this? [07:55] Yerushalmi, http://www.codeweavers.com/products/ [07:55] Yerushalmi: and you don't want to pay, you're stuck with wine [07:55] ActionParsnip: hah ++ [07:55] syn-ack, okay [07:55] actionparsnip: nope [07:55] Syn-ack: works great here [07:55] Hey, ActionParsnip perhaps you know .. So my Evolution *thinks* it's still sending an email (I deleted ~/.evolution/mail/local/Outbox) ... Do you know how to remedy this? [07:56] indus: don't think so, it has never been partitioned [07:56] ActionParsnip, I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree [07:56] ActionParsnip: same here. I wish the medibuntu crew would hurry up and include it [07:56] ActionParsnip, whats the package for the 64 bit [07:56] herbero, i mean windows will detect the disk [07:56] indus: Basically, I want to use the NES emulator from my old windows computer. the reason I don't want to use an ubuntu emulator is because I have a save rather far along I don't want to lose. [07:56] Thegeekyhaxxor: ramove all flash plugins including gnash and swfdec and grab the tar.gz of the 64bit plugin. Copy the file to your plugins folder [07:56] thegeekyhaxor: that installs the 32 bit with the wrapper [07:56] Thegeekyhaxor: there isn't one. You do it manually [07:56] ActionParsnip, what else can you do of cool stuff? [07:56] Yeru: the save formats aren't compatible? What's the NES emulator you're using [07:56] aaargh, could someone help me set up my gravis gamepad in karmic? been going over this post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338457 since yesterday now but without any luck [07:57] indus: The emulator doesn't work great in wine, I was wondering if there was another I could try. [07:57] ActionParsnip, okay... thanks will do that [07:57] Diverdude: make aliases to long strings of commands you use a lot [07:57] cnvl_: I assumed that they wouldn't be, but that would be neat if they were! JNes? [07:57] indus: don't know why it would, in any case I can't check no one here runs windows [07:57] ActionParsnip, also when i install firefox.. the 3.6 beta gets installed and it doesnt start after getting installed [07:57] Diverdude: alias rm="rm -I" [07:57] thegeekyhaxor: like I said, remove all of the flash-nonfree stuff, including that wrapper and get the 64 bit player from adobelabs [07:58] Diverdude: you'll thank me some day [07:58] I can't think of any priori reason they shouldn't be compatible. most emulators typically treat machine state as a binary dump of the memory [07:58] ActionParsnip: you have anyideas as to how to y youtube videos are playing fast on my live usb install [07:58] herbero, well, does the command mount show it , or check under gparted, btw, is this an external HDD [07:58] hives: the vote for the x68k comp is here http://impoll.net/cgi-bin/v.cgi?p=10231&r=9 [07:58] but I'm not familiar with JNes off the top of my head [07:58] cnvl_: Make my life a lot easier if I could just import the save into a built-for-ubuntu NES emulator. I wasn't too happy (though I liked the recursion of) using an emulator inside an emulator (Yes, I know that Wine Is Not an Emulator :p ) [07:58] Tru it and see [07:58] *try [07:58] thegeekyhaxor: there's been quite a few new bugs regarding firefox 3.6 :/ [07:58] indus: nah, not in /mnt either [07:58] cnvl_: It appears to be, yes. I'll try it. What ubuntu NES emulator do you suggest? [07:58] indus: seems like a bunk hd to me [07:58] hi I'm working on using grub2 on a usb flash drive to boot various isos from and I managed to get the latest ubuntu livecd loaded using a guide I found in the forums but it causes it to boot directly to the livecd and won't show the menu that the real disc shows. Is there anyway to allow it to load the iso as if I were loading it from a disc in my cd drive instead of automatically booting to the livecd? I was using this post to [07:58] Meowbuntu: reinstall flash or use 64bit flash if you use 64bit os. Could also try the mozilla ppa for a later build [07:59] herbero,is it an external HDD [07:59] mneptok, hehe, what does the -I option do? [07:59] syn-ack, okay... i assumed that... i hope i can still install firefox 3.5 [07:59] Ahh, heh. I've used NESTopia, dunno how good the linux build is [07:59] * Yerushalmi now has this desire to run an emulator of NES inside an emulator of Windows inside an emulator of FreeBSD. [07:59] indus: no SATA [07:59] Diverdude: prompts when deleting more than 3 files or deleting recursively. [07:59] Haldrie: I thought you can just dd the iso to usb stick and it should boot like the cd does... but I'm not 100% sure of this, of course [07:59] * Yerushalmi is a sad, sad, man. [07:59] mneptok, ahhh....good idea [07:59] Yerushalmi, why [07:59] Diverdude: ignore it if you really like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" moments [08:00] !patience | Yerushalmi [08:00] Yerushalmi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [08:00] I want to run a script to check my realtime kernal configuration, but I don't how to run scripts. The suffix is .pl, but I don't even know what that means... [08:00] Monona: ./script.pl And pl stands for Perl. [08:00] indus: Not "sad" as in unhappy. Sad as in pathetic. Read my previous sentence. :p [08:00] alankila: I'm trying to put multiple isos on 1 flash drive and boot them using grub2 [08:00] Monona, You may want to patch it with BFS if you're trying to make it a very low latency kernel [08:00] Yerushalmi, ok :) [08:00] that really wakes things up :) [08:01] indus: I mean, you've just been helping me with my question, have you already forgotten? ;) [08:01] alankila: I just navigate to the directory in the CLI, and just type ./script.pl? [08:01] oh. Well that sounds more interesting, I guess you could try putting them each on different partition and use grub to manage which boot sector to boot....? === Berzerker- is now known as Berzerker [08:01] Yerushalmi, no, but i cant advice on this further [08:01] Anyone know how i can get programs to autostart *BEFORE* login (ex, a server i need to run)? [08:01] Monona: yes, that's the gist of it. [08:01] mneptok, bash: alias: rm: not found [08:01] bash: alias: =: not found [08:01] bash: alias: rm -I: not found [08:01] !startup | Kohlrak [08:01] Kohlrak: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot [08:02] DaemonFC: I don't know what that means. :) [08:02] Sweet, indus! It's gone ... I think!!! [08:02] ah, thank you ActionParsnip [08:02] indus: Well, NES emulators and Windows emulators (YIKWINAE) are two different topics, and there was discussion drift. I had already expected it to move into the realm of other people's expertise. [08:02] !boot | Kohlrak [08:02] kohlrak, please see my private message [08:02] YIKWINAE = Yes I Know Wine Is Not An Emulator ;) [08:02] Monona, google BFS scheduler, I won't say what it stands for cause of language [08:02] chu_, really? [08:02] but it's a good patch for the kernel [08:03] DaemonFC: con's ck patches are back at kernel.org [08:03] mneptok, ahh think i got it...no white-spaces allowed :) [08:03] CFS is the default these days and it's surprisingly worse than "deadline" [08:03] Anyway, thanks for all the help, indus, cnvl_. [08:03] it's really geared for big iron more than desktops [08:03] whats cnvl [08:04] DaemonFC: but CFS is a disk scheduler while BFS is a process scheduler, right? [08:04] problem resolved? I was going to get Jnes and try it myself [08:04] Well I think so, but I don't know what I did, as in I did nothing! [08:04] if I could use this website.. >.> [08:04] alankila, Both are I/O schedulers [08:04] cnvl_: Don't know yet, but I have a direction to look in, which is important. [08:04] I have a sheevaplug, but the pre-installed Ubuntu does not have any kernel modules installed ... probably because there is a low amount of hard drive space available. Is it possible to boot from another device such as a USB stick? As long as the instruction set (ARMv5) is used, there should be no problem right? [08:04] I'll check out emulator compatibility, and then Windows compatibility. [08:04] Could you give me the download link to the version of JNes you're using? [08:04] Err, no. BFS is supposed to be some low-latency processing hack, last time I heard about it. [08:04] patching the kernel with BFS overrides CFS, even though the kernel config may say CFS is the default [08:05] Well, I used 1.0. Unfortunately Wine was only compatible with 0.6. And I'm not using it now; I recently reformatted my computer; I just have my save stored elsewhere. [08:05] Cnvl_: tried getdeb? [08:05] alankila: It tells me "command not found" I'm sure this is real basic, but I'm not getting it. [08:05] how do i remove rhythmbox and empathy from docky? i dont see a way to delete them off the dock... [08:05] ActionParsnip: it's windows [08:05] The Brain **** Scheduler (or BFS) is a task scheduler designed for the Linux kernel in August of 2009 as an alternative to the Completely Fair Scheduler and the O(1) scheduler. [08:05] Monona: perhaps you are in the wrong directory. Or perhaps the .pl file references a Perl interpreter from unusual place, not /usr/bin/perl [08:05] from Wikipedia [08:06] cnvl_: Both versions should be here: http://jabosoft.com/?categoryid=3 [08:06] But I have to go anyway [08:06] Thanks :) [08:06] Anyway, cheers guys I'm so frustrated still I have to leave my computer. [08:06] it's meant for desktop PCs with less than 16 cores, I think anyone in here would benefit from it [08:07] DaemonFC: okay. My and your mistake. BFS is task scheduler, but so is CFS. I confused it with CFQ, I guess. [08:07] I simply thought to this point that the default linux task scheduler has no particular name. [08:07] My ATI card using FGLRX even seems less "jerky" [08:08] Daemonfc: doubt I would. My pc use is chat and web browsing on a k7 cpu most days [08:08] though that might be the other stuff, like turning off tickless that he recommended [08:08] !ati [08:08] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [08:08] mneptok, hehhehe....im not to fund of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! moment :D [08:08] Catalyst really is the devil, 10.2 goes so far as to break compiz [08:08] hello, I was having trouble getting the live cd to open (9.10), so i used the 'help me boot from cd' option in wubi, but now when i try to install from the live environment I get all of these weird errors about /host. I can't install without unmounting it, I'm assuming, as I need to format it to install onto it. Any ideas? [08:09] DaemonFC, envyqt for ati driver installation aid [08:09] I have 0 experience with wubi, never had this many problems before. [08:09] alankila: It's on my Desktop, I'm in ~/Desktop$ I've tried ./script.pl, /script.pl, script.pl, etc, where "script" is the actual name of the script. realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl, to be precise. [08:09] I can't even think that 10.2 was tested [08:09] Monona: so what is the first line of that program, then? Open it in some text editor to check [08:09] ouyes, The crap in the repository is old, and the module is for Ubuntu's kernel that I'm not using [08:09] #! /usr/bin/perl [08:10] Nutshell: I need to unmount /host, which is mounted because of wubi, but I am having troubles doing that because of /host (I think) [08:10] Monona: okay, that must exist. Is the file marked executable -- does ls -l realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl say -rwxr-xr-x, the "x" being present? [08:10] DaemonFC: BFS scheduler looks interesting, but I'm just trying to get a stable workstation. === andatche_ is now known as andatche [08:11] alankila: No. It says -rw-r--r-- [08:11] it seems that envy has turned into something useless that pulls in the same driver Jockey would have suggested [08:11] How do I make it executable? [08:11] Monona: chmod 0755 realtimeetc.pl [08:12] it used to go grab the latest driver from ATI or Nvidia [08:12] Monona: then try again [08:12] It almost seems like you can't unmount whatever drive you booted out of if you used wubi [08:12] Monona: the more friendly way to add executable bits is actually chmod a+x realtime.pl, the a+x means "add x to everyone's permissions" [08:13] alankila: Ah, that worked. What exactly did I do there? [08:13] x meaning what? [08:13] * kinja-sheep EXECUTE Monona! [08:13] Can someone explain why they would replace pidgin with empathy? [08:13] Executed! [08:13] Monona: allow execution by kernel. [08:14] bjking, insanity [08:14] kk [08:14] Monona, and for directories it means allow access through it - just for completeness ske [08:14] jw [08:14] Monona: linux has a very confusing way of dealing with executable programs mostly due to historical reasons, as usual. Linux inherits from unix, and they are very old. When executing scripts, there are too few error codes to accurately report why it doesn't work, so it usually says whatever instead of something useful when some particular thing is wrong [08:14] it's the worst EVER [08:14] DaemonFC: that's not helpful. [08:15] stdisease: Access through directories how? [08:15] Monona: he means that the "x" bit on directories means that listing directory is allowed [08:15] GNOME thought they're re-implement Pidgin with half the features and 1/10th the options, and depend on libpurple anyway for most of the things it can do. That's my honest opinion. It may sound sarcastic. [08:15] or was that "r"? I'm not sure. SOrry. Forget I said anything [08:16] maybe its been too long since I've done an install, ive never had even close to this much trouble over just installing [08:16] bjking: The underlying technology that Empathy uses (called Telepathy) is more extendable and better allows integration into other desktop apps. [08:16] In any case it's a confusing, irritating mess. Imo. [08:16] alankila: "read", the x bit means you can read the dir. Removing the x bit locks users out [08:16] right [08:16] alankila: This is all new to me. By the time I actually get jack running without xruns, seems like I'm going to have learned a few things along the way. [08:16] * DaemonFC snores loudly and goes back to liking Pidgin better [08:16] ardchoille: okay, but can you still access a file in directory even if you don't allow x, if you know the name? [08:16] Monona, alankila : r for listing, x for accessing files and subdirectories under it [08:17] alankila: no [08:17] stdisease, rww: thanks for enlightenment. R for read, X for aXess. Easy to remember ;-) [08:17] alankila: I don't think so, removing the x bit removes all access to the dir (read, write, ls, cp, etc) [08:17] !alas [08:18] hiya [08:18] heyyy [08:18] any gamers on? [08:18] Hello here. [08:18] alankila: this is why recursive chmod can be a bad thing [08:18] DOTA is a game [08:18] lol [08:18] i love dota [08:18] where can i find the Ubuntu netbook remix for ARM devices? [08:18] google [08:18] I suspect it won't be long before I have to manually install everything that used to be there that did what I wanted because they deprecated it and replaced it with something that means nothing to me. :) OK, that was sarcastic. [08:18] ardchoille: you mean the usual "chmod 0777 -R /" recommended to new linux users? [08:19] (that is a joke, please don't execute it.) [08:19] !arm [08:19] lol [08:19] too late [08:19] alankila: there shouldn't ever be a need to do that [08:19] !alsa [08:19] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [08:19] ardchoille: actually, I have seen people do that! [08:19] how do i shut off pulse sound [08:19] How do I enable window resizing where the window resizes in real time instead of the translucent blue outline that the windows fill when you let go? [08:19] I've chowned / before [08:19] "Can't figure out linux permissions, how do I get rid of them" and then someone says that. [08:19] bjking, thanks for the help. :P [08:20] np :) [08:20] koi tho batao yaar [08:20] actually i do have a issue that is kind weird [08:20] my x11 desktop settings won't save [08:20] i have to reconfigure them on all of the reboots [08:20] desktop settings as in resolution? [08:20] Racerd: what video card? [08:21] geforce 8800M [08:21] not just resolution [08:21] are you using nvidia's binary driver? [08:21] which display being the main display as well [08:21] Racerd: run: gksudo nvidia-settings ,you can now save to xorg.conf [08:21] yeah [08:21] How do you set the default home directory permissions when users are created? I've tried /etc/login.def and /etc/adduser.conf and the new home directories are still 755. [08:21] Monona: about jack, the only recommendation I have for you is to enable the realtime scheduling of jack, there was some work required for it, not sure what, but something to do if you are of the mind [08:22] hi everyone [08:22] Monona: I once wrote a guitar effects processor on top of jack and I found that allowing realtime scheduling for jack really helped against underruns, I ran with something like 256 sample buffers or 4 ms, if memory serves [08:22] son of a... well damn that worked [08:22] Racerd: if it moans about no xorg.conf run: sudo nvidia-xconfig ,then retry [08:22] ... I was just about to say that. heh. [08:23] that's more like 6 ms though... [08:23] Racerd: running nvidia settings alone runs it as user. Gksudo gets you the write access you need ;) [08:23] that is what i figured was going on [08:23] alankila: Yeah, that's what I'm working on. I've posted on the forum and I'm making progress, but I just didn't know how to run the diagnostic script. jack is killing me with xruns and I've got it at more than 80ms latency. I'm just trying to figure out why. [08:24] i just didn't know how to enable the permissions needed [08:24] using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp [08:24] carbm1, sounds like you need to umask 0 first [08:24] Racerd: the system will also boot in that res etc. If you hit another monitor to it you will need to blank out the current file etc. [08:24] Monona: your system's messed up seriously if you still get underruns at 80 ms. That's ridiculous. Maybe the effect programs you are running against jack are too slow, or is it without anything connected to jack yet? [08:24] Racerd: every day is a school day [08:24] using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp [08:24] pranav1: should just work [08:24] yes i know [08:25] I have java programs that are able to deal with 50 ms buffers [08:25] i work in IT :( [08:25] but all of our junk is windows [08:25] or oracle db's [08:25] and java's an unpredictable execution environment [08:25] Pranav1: you need to set the dns server to the virtualbox one. I forget its ip. Or bridge the network so it appears on your network as a seperate system [08:26] pranav1, you configure the networking options in vbox and in XP you see IP configuration to DHCP [08:26] I was in a coldfusion class as i have to tkae such a class and the instructor informed a group of smokers I was amongst that coldfusion is MUCH better than PHP [08:26] is my instructor a fucking idiot? [08:26] alankila: That's before I'm even running any other programs. This is a fresh install of Hardy Heron, with the realtime kernel and all. Forum dude thinks it's CPU frequency scaling issue. Again, out of my league but working on it. [08:26] Good morning peeps [08:26] bjking: "better" is relative as first approximation, so anybody can be right depending on what they are thinking about. [08:26] your instructor is opinionated. welcome to education. [08:26] hi - looking for some business aps that run on ubuntu - anyone here that can help? [08:26] he's like [08:26] aww man [08:27] Coldfusion and enterprise apps [08:27] Pranav1: 10.0.2.2 === cnvl_ is now known as cnvl [08:27] is where it's at dudddde [08:27] Disney uses coldfusion [08:27] Monona: okay. No, I don't think it is cpu scaling problem, but of course you can try to disable the ondemand cpu scheduler, set that to performance [08:27] or maybe that was vmware with the dhcp... meh, lol [08:27] When I still had linux on my main box I had done that because ondemand sucks [08:27] Pranav1: set that as the dns server and it will be fine, or use bridged lan [08:27] but I tend to think it's just complete and utter adobe garbage. :( Am I wrong? [08:27] !offtopic | bjking [08:28] bjking: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [08:28] Stdisease: it has dhcp, just doesn't seem to want to share its dns server [08:28] alankila: What's ondemand? The thing is, this is a pretty new computer and I don't think it's a hardware issue. Jack has worked pretty much out the box for me before, even on old hardware. [08:28] I have a client that is contemplating switching from windows to linux. I am encouraging this but I need to find out what alternatives he has to provide applications for G/L, Inv, POS, drs, crs etc - can anyone point me in the right direction? [08:28] ActionParsnip, pranav1 : I just checked, I use NAT mode in VBox and DHCP in WinXP - works fine for me [08:28] i can't connect to my ubuntu from the internet via vnc OR ssh or anything.... however i can connect from the local network, and i checked a hundred times to make sure port fowarding is set up..... [08:29] ActionParsnip, I didnt need to specify DNs in my case [08:29] Monona: linux adjusts cpu frequency based on task demand on cpu time by collecting statistics over some 100 ms intervals and adjusting the frequency such that certain % of cpu is idle if the same thing goes on in future [08:29] alankila: The diagnostic script tells me "/ does not have the 'noatime' parameter set" [08:29] Ripdisk: its the forwarding dude. If it connects over lan the service is working. Maybe you need to reboot the router. Some home grade routers need it [08:30] Monona: the default mode is like this, but I hate it because it adjusts too slowly -- if you have several cpu frequencies, ondemand usually steps to higher frequency one step at a time and it takes macroscopic time to go from the lowest rate to the highest cpu rate, so I have always felt that linux is annoyingly unresponsive with ondemand [08:30] stdisease i m in VB pls explain me stepvise [08:30] ripdisk: are you planning to do more than VNC? [08:30] bjking: php and coldfusion are used for different things. Disney uses php and cold fusion. Disney uses cold fusion for instance for "club penguin" and php for more informational sites [08:30] Monona: the noatime is not really recommended anymore, ignore that. The modern linuxes run with something called relatime... or is your distro too old for that... don't remember [08:31] hi ! when I install postgresql8-4 I have an error stating that the file /var/run/postgresql/8.4-main.pid doesn't exist can someone help me ? [08:31] using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp [08:31] ActionParsnip: i rebooted the router several time. [08:31] using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp [08:31] I don't remember if relatime was invented at time of hardy. [08:31] times* [08:31] hey, can anyone recommend an rss feed reader for the GNOME desktop? (preferably one that's transparent and not too intrusive) [08:31] Hi, I have been working on some documentation and would like to have some feedback to improve it. It is on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE thanks [08:31] and misterB: what do you mean more than vnc? [08:31] pranav1, well click your appliance settings, and under network, set adapter 1 : Attached to NAT [08:31] paotzu: they seem to have the same function.... the class I'm in isn't especially informative [08:32] Ferronrock: avant-window-navigator has an rss app and so does gnome-panel [08:32] Say, is it fine to put something like this in /etc/init.d or is it better to put it uh, somewhere else? It needs to be run for all users, that is. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d17b2e265 [08:32] Ripdisk: then all I can suggest is revise settings. Don't use vnc over wan without ssh tunnel too ;) [08:32] Monona: in any case, noatime only adds a little bit of disk speed to your system, we're talking about 10 % faster disks or something like that. [08:32] you mentioned vnc and ssh [08:32] pranav1 : I didn't have to do anything it just works [08:32] pranav1, I have PCnet-FAST III as hardware type selected, click the recycle button to generate a new MAC address if needed, make sure 'Cable connected' is on [08:32] bjking: does that make it show up on the desktop itself or just in the little panel? [08:32] alankila: If that was the issue, the xruns would decrease after a little while, right? Once the CPU scaled to the proper frequency? Or am I way off in understanding how this works? For what it's worth, it's a dual core pentium D 3.00 GHz. [08:32] Monona: and against relatime the benefit is probably very minor [08:32] ripdisk: you mentioned vnc and ssh [08:32] yeah, i have the vnc server running as well as the ssh server [08:32] and i can connect from within my router [08:32] Ferron: right click on gnome panel [08:32] hit add to panel [08:32] however, i can't connect via my public ip [08:32] pranav1, in XP, on your network connection settings set Obtain IP address automatically (that's dhcp) [08:33] stdisease -den error occur using XP in virtual box in ubuntu. how to access net in xp [08:33] bjking: the bottom line on that is adobe (and macromedia before) publishes flash and coldfusion, so they interoperate well if you are making something like club penguin [08:33] Monona: yes, the basic idea is that the ondemand works, it's just too slow to adjust for my taste. For audio processing you'd have a steady, predictable load, and not much issue with ondemand, most likely. Plus it only matters after you have enough tasks taking CPU that the lowest rate is no longer sufficient to handle the full suite of tasks [08:33] errr [08:33] Ferron: you may have to install through synaptic [08:33] so nobody has an idea about that damn /var/run/postgresql/8.4-main.pid file ? [08:33] hold on bjking [08:33] I'm installing it [08:33] ripdisk: for what it's worth, you can establish a vnc session through empathy. [08:33] Monona: and jack-with-no-apps has to be basically 0.01 % cpu load [08:34] hello [08:34] misterB: i have no idea what that means. [08:34] bjking: what's the name of it? [08:34] since when did the ubuntu channel overtake gentoo [08:34] has anyone here ever installed ubuntu from the 12mb network install image? [08:34] stdisease-den error occur port path nt specified [08:34] alankila: So I need to figure out if I can mount my system with relatime enabled on Hardy? [08:34] did 6 hours compliation installation went out of style now? [08:34] port path nt specified [08:34] Monona: still, if there are any bugs with ondemand, such as miscalculation of the correct rate ... these could still harm you. I do think that audio apps do not in the main enjoy the concept of variable CPU speed. [08:35] Justin22885: several times [08:35] I still have no sound. Tried installing backports, didn't help. Tried looking at alsamixer, didn't help. Have made sure nothing is muted, didn't help. It worked fine for a while, then I think ubuntu did a update and things started to get messy. [08:35] underruns are deadly, and ondemand decreases the margin [08:35] Justin22885: its all I use [08:35] im doing that now.. its download and installing the base system now [08:35] Monona: no. It won't help you. [08:35] my laptop uses wifi, so i had to share internet with my desktop [08:35] Justin22885: nice. No need to update once installed ;) [08:36] Ferron: I'm unsure..... quick search RSS and then Search gnome [08:36] ripdisk: if you're using googletalk or jabber, you initiate a screen sharing session with another contact. Not sure if this can be automated. If so, you avoid port forwarding [08:36] Monona: disabling atime gives only an improvement of the apparent disk speed. [08:36] Or ask someone who knows [08:36] im trying to decide exactly what to install after the base command line system is up and running [08:36] misterB: oh. [08:36] I'll see [08:36] alankila: Any thoughts on what it might be? Or directions I should look into? [08:36] ripdisk: I know it works with empathy on 9.10 [08:37] which distro did you use actionparsnip? [08:37] Justin22885: depends what you like. For a small fast system use lxde or xfce [08:37] Monona: ensure jack has the audio device for itself. Check you aren't running esd or pulseaudio (if that was relevant for hardy heron)... Didn't jack have a way to open the audio device in some kind of exclusive mode via hw:0,0 access [08:37] Justin22885: gentoo, lubuntu and puppy [08:37] i have 1gb RAM and a 1.6ghz cpu [08:37] this is a netbook [08:37] Ferron: gDesklets? [08:37] Monona: so you are probably best off making sure that jack is realtime & has audio device for itself at the very least. [08:38] Justin22885: any will be fine [08:38] bjking: yeah I'll try that [08:38] hi [08:38] Justin22885: lightness leaves more space for your apps to run [08:38] hello madhu [08:38] alankila: I'm checking that with fuser -v /dev/snd* and making sure Pulseaudio is dead. My soundcard shares an IRQ with a usb device. Would that matter? [08:38] the LXDE screenshots remind me of windows xp [08:39] Monona: no, IRQ's don't matter [08:39] Justin22885: probably because of the deep blue [08:39] justin22885, and if you don't want the fuss you can even go with a combo of xdm and openbox [08:39] justin22885, then install the applications you need individually [08:39] just move the panel to the top and you're good to go [08:39] Monona: well, it would probably depend on activity on that IUSB device or controller. It probably doesn't matter, but you are best off dedicating an IRQ for your audio device. [08:39] this is frustrating, all my settings are right, and my ports are fowarded... yet i can't ssh or ANYTHING [08:39] maybe, lightness is a good idea, though this netbook will run windows 7 and vista, id like to keep it to windows xp or lesser level of latency [08:40] Ripdisk: contact the manufacturer and read your manual [08:40] I'm on my dell mini9 with openbox [08:40] :P [08:40] justin22885: I have same configuration, run full ubuntu no issues [08:40] Justin22885: for true lightness: flwm [08:40] Monona: linux mostly just acknowledges the IRQs when they arrive from various devices and moves the processing to internally scheduled tasks, called "softirq". As opposed to "hardirq", I guess. [08:40] I'll just have to play around with it. Thanks for the help! [08:40] Monona: the upshot is that irq sharing is relatively harmless with linux [08:41] actionparsnip: youre throwing a lot of terms at me, lxde, flwm, xdm.. whatever happened to simple fluxbox? [08:41] This is all good stuff to learn, on the way to getting things set up properly. [08:41] justin22885: use afterstep [08:42] Justin22885: they are all alternative desktops. Websearch them to see what the deal is. Lxde is just a nice easy way to get a full set of stuff to get you started [08:42] Monona: still, it's probably true that there is a slight improvement if you can allocate a dedicated IRQ. That way the cpu will always receive the IRQ & know immediately it is the audio device without checking other possible sources for that IRQ [08:42] is xdm a login thats unbiased to any desktop environment? [08:42] justin22885, right [08:42] alankila: So how would I change that? [08:42] justin22885: It is CLI, I think. [08:42] Monona: BIOS [08:42] then i like xdm... keep it modular, ya know? [08:42] hey. i need some help trying to figure out to use crontab [08:43] alankila: Oh boy. :) How's that then? [08:43] ia m unable to get it to start up any application [08:43] justin22885: use wdm like redhat 5 [08:43] Monona: in fairness I used to have a laptop that put every device on irq 11 and I never noticed. I didn't do much audio processing work on it or anything that placed hard realtime constraints, but I did run a few audio thingso n it and it all just worked [08:43] Upgrading to 8.04: I get this error "A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry." [08:43] so this is probably the sort of thing that doesn't fix your issue. It only benefits at margins. [08:43] and then a list, each entry looks more or less like that: "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" [08:43] ive never used redhat... i used one of the first fedora core distros for about 2 days though [08:43] And then the upgrade halts... [08:44] Monona: well, BIOS is BIOS. You just have to boot & check it and try to allocate PCI device IRQs there. It's annoying stuff for sure. Depending on which kind of bios it's possible/impossible/merely very confusing. [08:44] peleg, perhaps your network connection isn't working , check if the driver is loaded and the network interface is configured [08:44] peleg: Change that from old-releases to releases [08:44] anyone? [08:44] Monona: it's also possible that Linux could decide the interrupts, but as far as I know Linux prefers to use the BIOS IRQ map for devices. [08:45] stdisease, how can it be? I am talking to you at the moment, isn't that right? [08:45] Flannel, I'll try that, thanks [08:45] justin22885: if you want to speed your laptop, use gparted to resize your hard disk, dd to backup the file, and then install a ssd hard disk and dd the file back. [08:45] titan_ark, what's the issue, did you edit the crontab file, and you have the cron daemon running? [08:45] im going to need to install wifi.. i have a broadcom wifi adapter, any tips on how to get this properly configured?... my router uses no password, but will only accept devices of specific mac addresses, so no issues there [08:45] Monona: but I stress this likely won't fix your problem. We're talking about system that fails at 80 ms, not system that fails at 2 ms [08:45] dedicated IRQs can only possibly help at *very* tight setups [08:45] peleg, you could be talking from another computer.... [08:45] justin22885: can you run gnome or... you are sticking to afterstep? [08:46] hi all [08:46] stdisease, right :) but I am not. thanks! [08:46] once those 256gb SSDs become affordable, im hopping over to SSD on all devices and not looking back [08:46] alankila: Gah. That sound like too much for tonight. It's good to have options, though. I'll have to see if I can diagnose the problem some kind of which way. [08:46] afterstep? [08:46] justin22885: just remember single cell is better [08:46] hi can anyone help me i cant install ac97 in my linux [08:46] peleg, oh you are most certainly welcome anytime [08:46] bro [08:47] justin22885: afterstep is very old, lightweight window manager [08:47] I would really appreciate some help on my sound issue [08:47] peleg, change the mirror you're fetching from then, idk [08:47] Monona: you should probably consider a variant of ubuntu made for audio processing. Hardy is aging, and so on. Switching distro could well fix the problem, but stay away from mainstream ubuntu because you'll have to battle the monster called pulseaudio first [08:47] my linux is karmic stdisesase [08:48] to be honest, i havent a clue as to which desktop environment i will use, fluxbox, lxde, gnome, or kde [08:48] gnome is good [08:48] if you have no idea then gnome is probably the way to go justin22885 [08:48] alankila: my friend who does work with JACK and such said that pulseaudio actually fixed all his problems with some 96-bit sound card [08:48] justin22885: so just use whatever is the default [08:48] Monona: the work, however, caused by pulseaudio may have helped a large number of audio devices. Pulse is relatively timing sensitive sort of application. It thus forces improvement on the baseline quality of sound drivers, and you benefit from this work if you can update. [08:48] how do i figure out if i'm running the 32bit or 64bit version of ubuntu? [08:48] ive used all those except for lxde [08:49] i have uninstall pulseaudio bro alan [08:49] stdisease, I have changed old-releases to releases in sources.list, but it does not help. How do I change the mirror? [08:49] alankila: UbuntuStudio is basically Ubuntu with extra packages, right? Which I think I've installed. And I've heard that realtime kernel is kinda rough in later versions. [08:49] taofd, konsol -> uname -a [08:49] paotzu: there are no 96-bit sound cards. Perhaps you talk about 96 kHz sampling rate. Yes, that kind of things exist, they may be used by professional audio producers. [08:49] my soundcard is realtek [08:49] taofd, I who run 64 ends with x86_64 GNU/Linux [08:49] taofd, * my output ends with.. [08:49] alankila: ah that's right, kHz. you can tell I am not pro sound producer. [08:50] koltroll, ah yeah, i see thx :) [08:50] Monona: it may also have recompiled things without pulseaudio -- which will fight with jack over control of audio -- and that's something relevant for you [08:50] taofd, np [08:50] perhaps try other mirrors in other locations, peleg [08:50] koltroll, yeah, i wasn't sure because i completely forgot which version i installed on this system, but it seems like i've installed the 64bit version [08:50] ok, the net install disc is asking me to choose a kernal, any suggestions?... 2.6.31-19-386 looks good [08:50] alankila: How's that then? [08:50] stdisease, but where do I choose a mirror? the upgrading process does not ask me anything about it. [08:51] are there indonesian here [08:51] sairam [08:51] Monona: I'm just saying that you're probably best off with an ubuntu distribution specifically built for audio work. At least it can't be any worse than the current situation for you, whatever its cause. [08:51] question: will xdm allow me to select from multiple installed desktop environments? so i could install gnome, lxde, and fluxbox and toy around with all? [08:52] justin22885: pure xdm? I remember that was very minimalistic, but I probably haven't seen that for nearly a decade. The lxdm, gdm and kdm all allow it. [08:52] anyone with an idea to run crontab? I am unable to use it to start an application === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [08:52] alankila: Such as UbuntuStudio? Or are there better distros for audio? [08:52] Monona: I don't know the linux audio landscape, but seems like a reasonable first attempt. [08:53] alankila: i just want an unbiased login, lxdm, gdm, and kdm are all biased to lxde, gnome, and kde [08:53] hmm... is there a way to run 32bit apps on 64bit? [08:53] justin22885: use non-partisan-dm package [08:53] somebody know where is the torrent files are stored if i use qbittorrent. [08:53] justin22885: why not skip the login manager and just use an .Xdefaults [08:53] i meant the files with .torrent [08:53] justin22885: I thought you picked xdm? [08:53] paotzu: what is that? [08:53] alankila: Have you heard the the realtime kernel works alright in Intrepid or Jaunty or Karmic? [08:54] obscurant1st: Try "sudo updatedb && locate torrent" [08:54] justin22885: so what? xdm probably means you go for editing files when you want to change the DE, or that is what I would have had to do back in the time I still used xdm. I don't know. I recommend lxdm or gdm, who cares which one it is as long as it works? [08:54] im installing the kernal right now, i havent installed anything yet [08:54] kinja-sheep, k, [08:54] and i want to install a couple desktops and window managers to test drive my options [08:54] Monona: unfortunately, I know nothing about linux realtime options. [08:54] justin22885: an easier option to test might have been a VM [08:55] alankila: Thanks! I think I'm going to call it quits for now, and play some more tomorrow. [08:55] alankila, now you just choose symlinks under /etc/alternatives [08:55] justin22885: you can easily try the xdm & see how it goes, but chances are there's nothing but username and password prompt [08:55] stdisease: oh joy :) [08:55] justin22885: In all seriousness, you can use SLiM, Orthos, Enter, etc... [08:55] i dont want a username and a password, id like my linux to just automatically log me in and leave me alone about it.. no one ever touches my laptop but me [08:56] kinja-sheep, ki am not getting the .torrent files [08:56] paotzu: slim > all [08:56] justin22885: riiight. Well, you still want some kind of box where to select which desktop to boot. You can put username and password as 'x' if you like. [08:56] alankila: xdm wont allow me to select a desktop? [08:56] justin22885: my guess is no [08:57] justin22885, nope only through manipulation of files somewhere else [08:57] does anyone have input on installing kde over ubuntu vs dual booting with kubuntu? [08:57] If I remember its just a login prompt like slim, but you could just setup what session yo would like in a .Xdefaults [08:57] justin22885, for now stick with gdm or kdm if you want choice/eyecandy/autologin [08:57] stdisease, did you understand my problem? [08:58] coldfire2122: you can have ubuntu and kubuntu on same machine. It will look like kubuntu because kubuntu replaces the splash screens and so on, but both gnome and kde will be available as usual. [08:58] coldfire2122, I'd just install kde on ubuntu [08:58] heh, in fact it *will* be kubuntu [08:59] ok.. ill go gdm for now, test drive the desktops, and when i find one i like ill remove gdm and set the script to automatically launch that one when i start up [08:59] anyone can help me with using crontab please? [08:59] i was reading that installing both caused issues. you would sy otherwise? [08:59] alankila: all you ahve to do to change that back without editing anything is dpkg-reconfigure gdm [08:59] its a mess ridding kde-desktop from gnome [08:59] How do I choose to use an older kernel I just installed into 9.10 ? [08:59] justin22885: I have personally liked lxde almost over gnome -- it is what I use on this machine for instance. [09:00] hi people [09:00] sanderj, it will show up in your grub, just select the older one [09:00] whats the most configurable "window manager" out there? would that be flux? [09:00] alankila: oh you are talking about the boot splash, nm [09:00] justin22885, kde [09:00] paotzu: yes, that is not generally fixable/changeable. [09:00] titan_ark, I want to make it boot with the older one by default. [09:00] i saw efl interface for netbook remix. Is it open source? [09:00] justin22885, but that's a whole desktop environment not just a window manager [09:00] kde is a desktop environment, not a pure window manager [09:00] i can't find the source [09:01] sanderj, not too sure about that [09:01] Hmm. How do I deal with /dev/md0 and grub2? I can't seem to tell grub2 what physical devices that corresponds to. [09:01] im asking what is the most configurable window manager by itself [09:01] A commone one I see a kde with openbox for a window manager or fluxbox [09:01] titan_ark, there is a new way.. with grub2.. dont know how. === mcdull_ is now known as mcdull [09:01] justin22885: openbox since you start with nothing [09:01] sanderj, oh okay, sorry i have no clue [09:01] justin22885: unless you go to a tiling wm [09:01] Enter text here... help me i have problem with my audio i can hear any voice from it [09:02] * alankila hopes he doesn't have to make a /boot partition, but will do if that's what it takes [09:02] I need to shrink an lvm volume in order to increase the size of others, but first I need to shrink the ext4 filesystem contained within offline and unmounted, what software do I use to accomplish this and will it be available in a single-user rescue shell? [09:02] Anyone else know how to set default kernel to boot with in grub2? [09:02] is shawnboy here? [09:02] no, i dont want tiling, i want a WM i can start out with almost nothing.. then choose and plugin components like a file browser, desktop, taskbar, etc [09:02] hi anyone used enlightment wm before i'm thinking of installing it [09:02] bharatbobba: I don't think so. [09:02] tking: gparted should be able to shrink a ext4 [09:03] mrpink57, I thought there were specific ext* specific tools, though. [09:03] with grub1 I could always just force it to use one of the disks as raw device, so with RAID1 it's not a problem to get a functional bootloader... but this grub2 is all scripted and doesn't seem to know how to deal with md [09:03] mrpink57, a look through aptitude search shows nothing... [09:03] whatever. I'll just make a /boot to get past this problem [09:03] alankila: you need newer version of grub2 I think? [09:03] mrpink57, also I would have to use parted as I wouldn't have a GUI, just a text terminal. But that is fine... except it has to be available in the rescue shell. [09:03] e2fsprogs works on ext4 [09:03] tking: i have never personally resized a partition. The only formats not resizable I know of are JFS, XFS, and maybe Resief [09:04] paotzu: never than is available in lucid? [09:04] stdisease, e2fsprogs supports shrinking? [09:04] newer even [09:04] goog morning world [09:04] Is there any other way of upgrading instead of using the GUI way, which is not working since I can't change the mirrors? [09:04] mrpink57, that is fine as I am using ext4 + lvm2 [09:04] peleg: sudo apt-get upgrade [09:04] paotzu: no, the problem is not with grub2 itself, it's more to do with the automagic scripts that attempt to make the grub2 config [09:04] anyone speaking french or spanish [09:04] mrpink57, thanks, I'll try that! [09:04] they don't have a clue how to deal with MD right now [09:05] peleg: I'd maybe do sudo apt-get update first [09:05] alankila: oh, you don't mean doing grub-install /dev/md0 [09:05] but it's not a problem, I have a plan. [09:05] paotzu: hmm, would that work? Will test immediately. [09:05] ubottu: es | ouissam [09:05] ouissam: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [09:05] Sound Issue: I only get sound when changing output volume to 150%. Any idea on why that is? [09:05] paotzu: no, it fails. The scripts don't know how to deal with md0. That's the problem. [09:06] I'll try telling grub2 that (hd0) == /dev/md0, maybe that does it [09:06] im setting up the package manager now.. then ill probably install gdm, then gnome, lxde, and fluxbox [09:06] no, it still doesn't work. Bummer. [09:06] damn.... wanted to thank him... [09:06] alinkaila, is this ubuntu 9.10 [09:06] fodder_: 10.04 [09:07] is this the issue of grub altering the comand line from a uuid 23455 to a hdo/ style [09:07] how would i go about using a compositing window manager with my computer? could i install compiz or beryl directly or does it need to run on top of something like gnome? [09:07] mrpink57, did both, in the order you recommended. I only get "0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert." -- and nothing after that. [09:07] And adding a partition to /dev/sda doesn't work of course ... the sda is used in md0 & kernel's too stupid to allow me to add new partitions without rebooting and I bet if I reboot now I can't boot the thing [09:07] *headdesk* [09:07] there is no compiz/beryl, there is compiz fusion now [09:08] When using TV-Out with nvidia's binary driver, my TV picture extends past the edges of my TV. How do I fix this? === aybabtu is now known as Guest97697 [09:08] what i did was uninstal grub, then reinstal the old one first [09:08] peleg: i do not know your language but it sounds like no updates with your mirrors, you can check the mirrorstatus and go from there I imagine. [09:08] could i use compiz fusion as the standard window manager, and from there plugin the taskbar, desktop, and file browser? [09:08] it fixes the issue and reconfigures itself b4 reboot [09:08] justin22885: compiz can be used as a stand alone [09:08] justin22885: absolute [09:08] then on update tell it to keep the old [09:09] mrpink57, well, I have changed "old-releases" to "releases", so I guess it might be the issue. I'll change it back and we'll see... [09:09] maybe i will do that.. install compiz on its own then plug in components to that [09:09] justin22885: try compiz-deskmenu === guest0117 is now known as jountreu [09:10] mrpink57, tried again. I have changed the mirrors, updated (update went fine), and then tried upgrading, but got nothing. What else should I check? [09:10] my sources are "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse" and so. [09:11] what is compiz-deskmenu paotzu? [09:11] peleg: past that I got nothing, do you know for a fact there is an update? [09:11] hey guys, is there a way to show the date and time the operating system been installed? [09:11] justin22885: it is a generic program menu for compiz fusion that you can go in and edit what you want etc [09:11] but it gives me no desktop with icons, or a taskbar, right? [09:11] mrpink57, well, yes. Update works great. also in aptitude. [09:12] hey everyone, could anyone help me out using crontab? [09:12] titan_ark: I can try [09:12] titan_ark: Me too, ardchoille has learned me quite well someday :D [09:12] peleg: what do you mean it works great? [09:13] is there a convertor type thing to change -rw-r----- to something else? [09:13] theadmin, ardchoille, iv been trying to use it to just try and run any application but not been successful [09:13] titan_ark: What app exactly? [09:14] mrpink57, I mean that it has downloaded some stuff, and then summarized -- told me how long did it take, that it is reading the package list, and that it is finished. updating again does not downloading anything again. sounds ok, doesn't it? [09:14] titan_ark: Got a nice crontab tutorial for you: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/04/crontab-tutorial.html === AJ4L_13 is now known as putra [09:14] theadmin, i basically want to use rsync, but just to see if i am getting it right, i tried creating a txt file or even running vncviewer, but nothing [09:14] titan_ark: Hm, copy the crontab line you've set [09:14] hey can anybody helps me? I should stop a software from running on the Start Machine [09:14] titan_ark, is crontab running, and what have you typed in your crontab? [09:14] peleg: yea, sounds like you are updated and nothing is in the pipe. Ubuntu repos are not exactly bleeding edge. [09:14] hello [09:15] *is cron daemon running [09:15] ardchoille, yes, iv read the man and the ubuntu page on cron [09:15] Hello === putra is now known as AJAL [09:15] theadmin, 57 12 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer > /home/titan_ark/cronlogs/testlog.log [09:16] stdisease, how do i check if its running? [09:16] AdvoWork, those are permissions, you change them with something like the 'chmod' utility from the command line [09:16] AdvoWork, or from the file manager, you right click the file and set permissions [09:16] mrpink57, so what can I do? Why upgrading does not work, without even giving any error message? [09:17] titan_ark, 'service cron status' [09:17] I tried to install a 2.6.18 kernel in 9.10.. and on bootup I got: error getting signalfd udevd .. I get dropped into a initramfs shell.. [09:17] stdisease, cron start/running, process 1062 [09:17] if i do ls -all i can see file permissions like: -rw-r----- is there a way to see what number that is? so i can then set chmod number file to match the -rw-r----- ? [09:17] mrpink57, I have switched to English. The last line is "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." [09:17] titan_ark, or even 'pgrep cron' , or 'pidof cron' .. looks like it's running [09:17] I cant see that /etc/default/grub exists.. how to I change the kernel back? [09:17] peleg: I think we're maybe understand two different things. If your system is already up to date then nothing will happen. As I asked before are you expecting a update? Something you know is out of date? [09:18] do I* [09:18] g0tcha: if the directory /var/log/installer/ exists, you could look at the timestamp of the files in there. "ls -l /var/log/installer/" would do that. [09:18] AdvoWork: Permission you specified is 620. [09:18] pgrep cron gives me 3 process ids! [09:18] hi [09:18] AdvoWork: r=4,w=2,x=1 r-x = r+x = 4+1 so its the number 5 [09:18] mrpink57, I do not expect an update. I expect an UPGRADE. that is, an upgrade of my system to 8.04. [09:19] stdisease, theadmin what do you suggest i do next? [09:19] everything is up to date -- besides my Ubuntu itself :) [09:19] peleg: what are you on now? [09:19] theadmin, 640 u mean rwx the order [09:19] mrpink57, 7.10 [09:19] AdvoWork: rwxr-x--- = (4+2+1) (4+0+1) (0+0+0) = chmod 750 [09:20] stdisease: Err, right. Keep messing them up. 640, yes [09:20] yeah, that laptop's a goner [09:20] theadmin, ok, so what about drwxr-x--- would that be: 750? [09:20] rww, thanks that did it [09:21] AdvoWork: 750... Yeah [09:21] AdvoWork: i told you already [09:21] AdvoWork, use stat to find out the number [09:21] after removing the drive from the md, Linux flagged the entire device as unavailable, so I could no longer do anything with it, even add it back to multiple device. So I lost the functional boot sector. Thanks, linux md. [09:21] AdvoWork, in case you can't figure it from the symbolic representation [09:21] what is the Linux analog of DOS/Windows command "TYPE"? (print file contents to STDOUT) [09:21] peleg, 8.04 is old... [09:21] theadmin, cat [09:21] stdisease: Thanks [09:21] jemark, well, I have to upgrade step by step [09:21] theadmin: cat filename [09:22] peleg: after doing a slight google it says do an update restart then do another update [09:22] theadmin, also know about tail and head [09:22] This "remove a partition from md and linux disables it completely" is one of the things I hate most about linux md. I have seen it before. I don't understand it. [09:22] ive got: -rwxr-x--- 1 zimbra zimbra 5 2010-02-19 09:06 test1.txt and im doing chmod 750 test1.txt and its still: -rwxr-x--- 1 zimbra zimbra 5 2010-02-19 09:06 test1.txt [09:22] peleg, where have u been the last few years, lol [09:22] mrpink57, ok, I'll try that. thanks. [09:23] theadmin, if you also want to view the file (not just print to stdout) use 'less' [09:23] theadmin, less is a pun on 'more' which is the original utility but that's probably too much trivia for the day [09:23] stdisease: Yeah know about less/more/most, as well as "view" and "nano -v" [09:23] whats the apt-get install for the xorg? === Gateway is now known as Gateway` === kb is now known as Guest64833 [09:24] justin22885, 'sudo apt-get install xorg' should do it I'd wager [09:25] sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg [09:25] justin22885, if you can't figure out what package name, 'apt-cache search ' [09:25] Well, I've screwed up my Grub. Now computer hangs at "Loading Grub..." This is after a stop mid-way through a really long fsck. What did I do and how do I fix it? [09:25] * EvilDennisR is bored and here to answer luser questions! [09:26] xorg is installing now... whats the command for the full gnome package though? not the ubuntu desktop, just gnome itself [09:26] !gnome [09:26] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [09:26] AdvoWork: to my eyes that looks ok - 750=rwxr-x---, d=directory, what do you want to do? [09:26] justin22885: you need to learn to search the apt cache: apt-cache search -n gnome [09:27] If only I had had a foresight to partition a /boot partition when I made the partitions... But I thought I'll leave the space unpartitioned. *kicks himself* [09:27] justin22885: the ubuntu-desktop package is a wrapper package that requires all of the "gnome" packages [09:27] So, any help? [09:27] ardchoille, could you give me an example of a working cron command? [09:27] Anyone know how to make opera display flash content nder amd64? The plugin is installed (first thing I do after updating is alawys install the restricted-extras) and sounds is OK, I just get no picture. Any ideas? [09:27] mine does not seem to be working [09:27] RPG_Master: fsck fails? [09:28] LSD|Ninja: flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree installed, yeah? [09:28] titan_ark: 00,30 * * * * echo "hi" # that runs echo "hi" every half hour of every day [09:28] EvilDennisR: What? After hard-killing my laptop mid-way through the fsck. So now I can't do anything without using a livecd. [09:28] EvilDennisR: They installed as part of the restricted-extras afaik [09:28] EvilDennisR: It also works fine in Arora [09:28] fsck didn't fail, I failed :( [09:28] titan_ark: Did you read my crontab tutorial? it's written for new users [09:28] LSD|Ninja: not sure, I don't use opera, someone else will have to help you =( [09:29] guntbert, basically i just want to make my test.txt file exactly the same as: drwxr-x--- 6 [09:29] Thanks to ubuntu now my whole school use it everyday [09:29] RPG_Master, lol, well you should probably finish the fsck run for the moment [09:29] RPG_Master: so, tell me the whole issue [09:29] anonymous++ [09:29] ardchoille, yes i did. i am trying 57 12 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer > /home/amit/cronlogs/testlog.log doesnt seem to do anything === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [09:29] AdvoWork: that is not possible - the first d means the entry is a directory and not a regular file [09:29] i have been changing the time to ah crap got it [09:29] im going to go for now, ill be on later [09:30] wtf [09:30] titan_ark, '>' is a shell construct [09:30] hello there. Got an Issue with psi client. On startup it shows pictures of all gpg-keys, then it doesn't show my private key at all [09:30] guntbert, sorry, i was being a mong [09:30] before i go.. i just want to know what i need for pure, full gnome without the ubuntu stuff [09:30] titan_ark: do you have a gui option for crontab, for some CRAZY reason in Arch I do?! [09:30] AdvoWork: np ;-) [09:31] justin22885: erm... maybe just install metacity? I'm sure that will require a bunch of gnome stuff [09:31] stdisease, so it wont work? [09:31] mrpink57, ah, no idea, quite a noob you see :P [09:31] titan_ark: wtf you trying to do with vncviewer and cron? [09:31] EvilDennisR: I really can't say any more details... [09:31] I have a Dell studio 15. i changed the power management on battery when the lid is closed from suspend to blank screen but when i open the lid it hangs... whats the best setting? [09:31] why is it i can't change my resolution? every time i reboot, it keeps on coming back to its default [09:31] !language | EvilDennisR [09:31] EvilDennisR: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [09:31] titan_ark, I'd say not [09:31] stdisease: How can I? Through a livecd? [09:32] RPG_Master: uh, well come on, what is the whole issue? You said "Blah, fsck failed" -- is that it?? [09:32] EvilDennisR, i am just trying to start it to check if i am doing it right, i want to actually use rsync [09:32] RPG_Master, you can fsck with the livecd yes [09:32] You can't say wteff?! what the crap [09:32] RPG_Master, pass it '-v' (verbose) args so that you see more detail [09:32] titan_ark: This is your crontab, yeah? Not one in /etc/cron.d/ or something? [09:32] stdisease, but i saw it on the help page. to output a log [09:33] I'm connecting to a server where I have another username. I have made sure the uid matches, but still have weird issues. Is it important that the gid matches as well? [09:33] EvilDennisR, nope, i added this after doing a crontab -e [09:33] EvilDennisR: exactly - and please stay polite too [09:33] titan_ark: 33 01 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 gnome-calculator [09:33] titan_ark: of course change the time [09:34] mrpink57, back to Earth; no change. I get the same results; no upgrade. [09:34] guntbert: I thought saying wteff _was_ being "nice", y'know, vs saying the complete acronym, but whatever.. [09:34] peleg: sorry man but I dont have anymore answers, this is a big irc channel hope someone else can help. [09:34] EvilDennisR: Before that I was trying to upgrade my NVIDIA drivers... and junk went wrong :( I ran "sudo shutdown now" in the terminal, after waiting 10 minutes for it to shutdown completely I hard-killed it.... [09:34] ardchoille, done and waiting, we seem to be on the same side of the globe :) [09:34] EvilDennisR: no, we don't care for abbreviations of that kind either [09:34] why is it i can't change my resolution? every time i reboot, it keeps on coming back to its default [09:35] mrpink57, thanks :) [09:35] titan_ark: That crontab line works here [09:35] titan_ark: \n is obviously a new line in your crontab: SHELL=/bin/sh\n DISPLAY=":0.0"\n 33 01 * * * gnome-calculator [09:36] titan_ark: minus the whitespace after \n [09:36] ardchoille, worked for me too [09:36] !guidelines > EvilDennisR [09:36] EvilDennisR, please see my private message [09:36] EvilDennisR, dint quite get you [09:36] EvilDennisR, some people are touchy, like 7 year olds today don't know how to curse already... it's best to just avoid altogether [09:37] EvilDennisR: Then once I turned it back on I got drop in the root shell repair thing. I ran fsck and got THOUSANDS of things it needed to fix. After sitting there for a whole 10 minutes with the "Y" key pressed down I gave up, ctrl+c'd it and "shutdown now"'d [09:37] titan_ark: my command worked? you're good to go then :) [09:37] wilson, you have to write changes to xorg.conf [09:37] how come, when im doing: zimbra@router:~/backup/sessions$ mv test1/ /home/ZimbraBackups/ mv: preserving times for `/home/ZimbraBackups/test1': Operation not permitted mv: preserving permissions for `/home/ZimbraBackups/test1': Operation not permitted the file is created by the zimbra user, and im mv'ing it with the zimbra user.. [09:37] titan_ark: http://www.pidgin.im/nopaste/136 [09:38] EvilDennisR: And then came the "Loading Grub..." hang :( [09:38] ardchoille, yes it did, i wonder why i cant get xvnc4viewer to open! :P [09:39] RPG_Master: uh, welp, you should of ran fsck -y /dev/hd### [09:39] RPG_Master: ^Cing fsck is generally NOT a good idea.. [09:39] kemsiro: failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf! [09:39] i installed acrobat reader and it has taken over firefox, which uses it to show pdf's within the browser, even though the firefox setting is set to "ask me" for pdf files. how do I fix this? [09:39] wilson, edit it with sudo privilege [09:40] EvilDennisR, sorry, but i am new to this, what exactly does the SHELL = ... do? i dint understand the meaning of what you posted? [09:40] BusMaster: Look in Firefox setting. Under Applications. [09:40] Hi [09:40] EvilDennisR: Well, now I know... What do now? :( [09:40] titan_ark: You don't really need that [09:40] Am I the only one who is having very slow speeds when downloading from the main repo? [09:40] kemsiro: how? new user, sorry [09:40] RPG_Master: did you boot up a live-cd and run fsck -y on the drive? [09:40] sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:40] AdvoWork: mv: preserving... cannot be part of the command [09:41] kinja-sheep, Edit->preferences->Applications shows "PDF Document" set to "Always Ask" [09:41] EvilDennisR: Not yet... didn't know I could fsck from a livecd :/ [09:41] ardchoille, yeah thats true. and how can i output the log of the command that is run to a file? wont the "> pathname" work? [09:41] Will do now. [09:41] titan_ark: SHELL= just specifies what shell is used [09:41] Hello. I remember I’ve been able, with Ubuntu, to type braille characters (from the block U+2800-U+28FF Braille Patterns) by using the keys ASDF JKL; as with a Perkins machine. There’s a keyboard driver for that purpose (in the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/brai), but I can’t remember how to activate it. Does anybody have an idea? [09:41] kinja-sheep, but it doesn't ask..it just opens the pdf in acrobat within the browser [09:41] I need help here. All I want is to upgrade from my very old 7.10 to another old version: 8.04. Nothing works. Any advice? [09:41] EvilDennisR, ah okay [09:42] RPG_Master: make sure you run fsck on the correct partition that was having the issue, and not just /dev/hda (or whatever your drive is) [09:42] If I use setxkbmap brai, I won’t be able to go back to the other keyboard layouts listed in System>Preference>Keyboard>Layouts. Then I rather look for a mean to add it to that layout list. Unfortunately, those drivers are classified by countries or by language, and it seems nothing has been planned for braille. [09:43] Hi! what's up? === gui_ is now known as kryl [09:43] hi [09:43] !hi > shashwat [09:43] shashwat, please see my private message [09:43] !hi > kryl [09:43] kryl, please see my private message [09:43] EvilDennisR: Well, my hard drive only has a main partition and a swap partition. So do I just stick in an Ubuntu livecd, open a terminal and then type fsck? [09:43] kemsiro: there are ony 8 lines [09:43] RPG_Master: IDE or scsi drive? [09:44] RPG_Master: should be fsck -y /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1 if its scsi [09:44] titan_ark: the ">" works here too [09:44] EvilDennisR: ...the kinda drive a 2008 laptop would have :P [09:44] I don't know [09:44] I think /dev/hda1 [09:44] ardchoille, okay shall try that. trying an rsync now. [09:45] RPG_Master: fsck will not do anything if its not the right drive specified [09:45] wilson, i used nvidia driver. i don't know what ur using. in my case, in order to use the resolution 1024x768, i specified it in "screen" section with Option "metamodes" "1024x768 +0+0" [09:45] RPG_Master: so its one or the other =) [09:45] ok [09:45] :P [09:45] ardchoille, wohooo the rsync works!!! [09:45] Hi [09:45] ardchoille, now time for trying the log file =) [09:46] !hi > Xintruder [09:46] Xintruder, please see my private message [09:46] titan_ark: 44 01 * * * ls /home/ardchoille > /home/ardchoille/test.txt # this worked fine [09:46] kemsiro: 1280x1024 [09:47] titan_ark: how is that crontab not working? You know that cron gets run every minute, and if you've specified the minute that you're in, it won't run -- yeah? [09:47] titan_ark: and you have to exit the editor you're in so crontab can check in your crontab -- yeah? [09:48] kemsiro: ection "Screen" [09:48] Identifier "Configured Screen Device" [09:48] DefaultDepth 24 [09:48] EndSection [09:48] Section "Device" [09:48] Identifier "Configured Video Device" [09:48] wilson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:48] Documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades -- does not help. [09:48] EvilDennisR, I am always trying to run something after a 2 minute wait and i close the editor after making the edit [09:48] wilson, yup in Screen section [09:49] titan_ark: you know its m h dom mon dow for the crontab, yeah ? [09:49] titan_ark: minute, hour, day of month, month, day of week [09:49] ardchoille, yes the txt file was successfully created =) now i need to figure out how not to wipe out the contents of the file and ensure all data goind from new line [09:49] kemsiro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/379633/ [09:49] EvilDennisR, :) yes i do [09:50] titan_ark: paste me your crontab again [09:50] titan_ark: use ">>" instead of ">", for append instead of overwrite [09:50] hello [09:50] titan_ark: > will overwrite the file, >> will append to the file [09:50] !hi > hrwath [09:50] hrwath, please see my private message [09:50] anyone uses komodo for editing? [09:50] EvilDennisR, its working now, just that its unanble to run the vncviewer but it does what i need [09:50] IS THERE anybody available to HELP ME ? [09:50] Hi. I'm the founder of Jalbum (http://jalbum.net). We've just adopted our web photo album software for Ubuntu [09:51] ardchoille, EvilDennisR oh okay cool! thanks will try that [09:51] my right alt key, right super and left super acts like left arrow [09:51] davide sei ITALIANO ? [09:51] I wonder if anyone here can provide me guidance on how to get Jalbum into Ubuntu's "Ubuntu Software Center" [09:51] davidekholm: /join #ubuntu-motu [09:51] I just can't upgrade. I am stuck with 7.10. Forever. [09:51] !motu [09:51] motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [09:51] !it | jackbrown [09:52] jackbrown: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [09:52] An kopete-issue: when I use jabber for ICQ transport, I cannot put my contacts into groups. is this a limitation of my transport service or a limitation of kopete? [09:52] Myrtti i want to speak english to i need HELP [09:52] Myrtti can u help me ? [09:52] Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! [09:53] Hi folks. Sorry for this off-topic question. Do you know of any extension that would allow me to select an arbitrary rectangular selection in a page and save it as html ? [09:53] Hi there i have a program that starts when the system starts how can i stop that ? [09:53] ngirard: firebug's the closest i can think of... [09:54] hi, how can i make changes to my xorg.cfg file ? user mode wont lemme write [09:54] it let's you view source, and as you mouse over the page it'll highlight the relevant code section in firebug [09:54] jackbrown: update-rc.d remove -f whateverprogram [09:54] Hi brummbaer, and thanks for your suggestion. I'll check this out right now ! [09:55] !GNOME | tuxattack [09:55] tuxattack: GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [09:55] user23: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf # but be VERY careful with that [09:55] jackbrown: oops, my bad update-rc.d -f whateverprogram remove [09:55] jackbrown: I always type it backwards [09:55] :D enjoy ngirard, that and noscript are my favorite plugins [09:55] Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! <--- im getting this error while saving after i change my resolution [09:55] jackbrown: whateverprogram is the name of the program thats getting run thats in /etc/init.d/ [09:55] brummbaer: ... let aside adblock, of course ! [09:56] update-rc.d -f remove [09:56] jackbrown: ...I'm assuming you mean a service, and not something that gets started by metacity, yeah? [09:56] i this the command to remove the program from the start list [09:56] EvilDennisR it's TOR [09:56] EvilDennisR do you know it ? [09:56] jackbrown: negative [09:56] ngirard: excellent point. :D [09:57] http://www.torproject.org/index.html.en [09:57] jackbrown: ...sooo, is it in /etc/init.d/ ? [09:57] EvilDennisR, ardchoille thanks a ton it works [09:58] titan_ark: yw :) [09:58] ardchoille, would you know why the vncviewer dint work? [09:58] EvilDennisR yes it's in there i found a file called TOR in that directory [09:58] EvilDennisR gksudo nautilus > then cancel that file ? [09:58] titan_ark: no idea. Does xvnc4viewer need switches? [09:59] jackbrown: so run the update-rc.d command like I said, and that will stop it from getting started when you rmachine boots up [09:59] ardchoille, no idea :D how about opening a text file in gedit? even that dint work for me! [09:59] ardchoille , 10x! [09:59] EvilDennisR i already did that but the program is still running i suppose that this is normal cos i will not start whe the machine will start again. Correct ? [09:59] user23: yw :) [10:00] jackbrown: Yeah, you can stop it with /etc/init.d/toswhatever stop [10:00] any recommendations for a tool that would automagically upload my digital camera's videos to youtube? I don't really feel like tweaking mencoder settings by hand... [10:00] titan_ark: 00 02 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 gedit ? [10:00] hi. i want a program to be able to share my screen with more than 1 people. Like skype lets you have a conversation with more than 2 people at the same time. any ideas? [10:01] why wasn't ubuntu added the open source broadcom drivers? [10:01] ardchoille, hmmm i was trying to use it to create a file at a particular path and open up also :P [10:01] hi there [10:02] broadcom.com [10:02] titan_ark: 00 02 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 touch /path/file && gedit /path/file [10:02] brummbaer: after an extensive (and boring) search among firefox extensions, here's my take: ScrapBook https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/427 [10:02] have driver for ubuntu [10:02] please, someone? I really need help upgrading ubuntu... [10:03] I have problem. On my ubuntu / kubuntu (not relevant) udev is not starting before mountall, so I have to start it manually every time, I am booting [10:03] why wasn't ubuntu added this http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/ [10:03] titan_ark: actually, you don't need to do that, you can just "gedit" and then choose where to save the file when closing [10:03] peleg: from 7.10 or something you said ? [10:03] doesn't ubuntu not care for open source drivers? [10:03] apt-get update [10:03] They do. [10:03] does* [10:03] aha! the && was missing! and what is the 'touch' for? [10:03] An kopete-issue: when I use jabber for ICQ transport, I cannot put my contacts into groups. is this a limitation of my transport service or a limitation of kopete? [10:03] EvilDennisR, yes, to 8.04 [10:03] you can upgrading yourself ubuntu [10:03] peleg: you have to go through each version, eg: 7.10->8.04->8.10->9.04->etc [10:03] then why is it no in the repository? [10:03] titan_ark: touch file = create file [10:03] ardchoille, hmm got that [10:03] ikonia, I know [10:03] titan_ark: actually, you don't need to do that, you can just "gedit" and then choose where to save the file when closing [10:04] peleg: ok - so what's the issue ? [10:04] http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/ is open source driver for broadcom wifi cards [10:04] peleg: update-manager doesn't have a upgrade thing on there? Or is that busted [10:04] ardchoille, yup got it =) thx a bunch!!! [10:04] ubuntu needs to add it to its repository [10:04] titan_ark: gedit opens with an empty file be default, you can just save it when closing and forego the "touch" command [10:04] syrius: no it doesn't [10:04] it works great on my card [10:04] syrius, you can package it ;) [10:04] syrius: it's very early and not very stable [10:04] yes it is [10:04] I use it everyday [10:04] syrius: wow - your card works, so it's stable [10:04] it works great with my card [10:04] following the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades did not help -- it halts every time with an error message. Someone here adviced using apt-get upgrade, but that does nothing. [10:05] ubottu: wfm | syrius [10:05] syrius: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [10:05] for some cards it doesn't work well [10:05] for mine it is stable [10:05] EvilDennisR, it has, but it does not work. [10:05] some other cards it isn't so stable [10:05] syrius: it needs to mature (most probably) [10:05] ardchoille, cool. now i can set up my back up everyday and a popup when its done :P next thing to do is for me to figure out how to backup to an online server! this is fun [10:05] syrius: ok, so that's why it's probably not included at this time [10:05] syrius: package it, call for testing repository [10:05] peleg: what's the error message [10:05] or rather "experimental" [10:05] how to delete KDE [10:06] it is in the trisquel distro by default [10:06] syrius: so ? [10:06] nice find ngirard, that looks lots more managable. [10:06] titan_ark: Keep that attitude :) [10:06] it works automatically when I bootup from it [10:06] syrius: you're ussing ubuntu - it's not in this distro at this time [10:06] anglewings: remove kdelibs5 [10:06] yes I know that === obscurant1st_ is now known as obscurant1st [10:06] peleg: So, heres a total hack: make a live-cd, boot it up, use gparted and resize your drive so you have two partitions, one for / and one for /home -- /home being the bigger size -- then install 8.04 (or whatever) onto the smaller partition, and use the other as /home [10:06] trisquel is based on ubuntu though ikonia [10:06] syrius: again - so ? [10:06] i installed backtrack without installing a bootloader, but i had ubuntu 9.10 in my system with grub2, but after installing backtrack 4 now it says grub loading error: unknown filesystem [10:06] just letting you know [10:06] syrius: ubuntu developers have chosen not to include it at this time [10:07] somebody pls help me! [10:07] :( [10:07] Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! <--- im getting this error while saving after i change my resolution [10:07] ikonia, "A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry." and then a list containing lines like "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" [10:07] thank you [10:07] titan_ark: you might want to look into "zenity", it makes nice popup messages and is configurable. I think it's in the repos [10:07] peleg: have you changed your sources.list file to point to hardy ? [10:07] wilson: you the one who pastbin that xorg.conf earlier ? [10:07] peleg: as 8.04 is not on the old-releases server [10:07] ardchoille, iv had enough of giving up when things dont work the first few times. its time for a complete migration from windows :D [10:07] ardchoille, ah cool shall check it out [10:08] EvilDennisR: yes [10:08] ikonia, my sources file has lines like that: "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted universe multiverse [10:08] wilson: Was that you're _entire_ xorg.conf ?? [10:08] peleg: did YOU change your sources.list file ? [10:08] titan_ark: install zenity and then read the man page, there are some examples there.. you'll like it :) [10:08] EvilDennisR: yes, thats my entire xorg [10:08] peleg: hardy (8.04) is NOT on the old-releases.ubuntu.com server - so did you change that to point at hardy ? [10:08] ikonia, no, there was a question on the process asking me "yes/no", where yes means that the file will be changed. [10:09] wilson: You need more stuff than that dude! === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc [10:09] wilson: copy that stuff somewhere, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [10:09] wilson: then paste in your stuff accordingly [10:09] peleg: ok - well, there is your problem, hardy is not on the old-releases.ubuntu.com server as it's a current release === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [10:09] ive got exec > /home/Scripts/script_log.log 2>&1 in a .sh file, whats that do? [10:10] ikonia, I have tried to change "old-releases" to "releases" manually (as someone here suggested), but it did not help. [10:10] peleg: that's not a valid server [10:10] AdvoWork: exec?? [10:10] oh. [10:10] peleg: actually - it is valid [10:11] EvilDennisR, does that write all output to script_log.log? [10:11] oh. [10:11] peleg: change it to releases.ubuntu.com and do a "sudo apt-get update" [10:11] can someone do me a favor and tell me if they can connect via ssh to 173.58.38.39 [10:11] peleg: ahh, sorry, it's not valid, my mistake [10:11] ripdisk: please don't ask for that sort of thing [10:11] ikonia: that's not valid for packages is it? [10:11] AdvoWork: Yeah, but typically you should replace exec with some other program [10:11] ardchoille: I know, just noticed [10:11] EvilDennisR: after sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [10:11] ok [10:12] EvilDennisR: next step please [10:12] wilson: add in DefaultDepth24 [10:12] peleg: you need to point your sources.list at a valid ubuntu repository server [10:12] wilson: to the screen section, and nvidia to the device section [10:12] Evil_DuDe, its a script im writing and putting as a cronjob, so i need to see the output of whats happening, any suggestions instead of exec then? [10:12] wilson: the stuff you had in pastebin was correct -- You just didn't have anything else that X needs to run [10:12] ikonia: can he just use archive.ubuntu.com ? [10:12] ardchoille: don't see why not, I think that's even load balanced too [10:13] yeah [10:13] ikonia, like "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" ? [10:13] ikonia: it's my ip [10:13] AdvoWork: You know, if you type in evil and then hit tab, it will autocomplete my name [10:13] peleg: that's perfect [10:13] ripdisk: great, so you can test it yourself [10:13] ikonia: i'm trying to test something, i can't connect to my own ip but someone else said that they were able to [10:13] and i'd like a second oppinion.. [10:13] EvilDennisR, sorry, any suggestions [10:14] AdvoWork: * * * * someprogram > /home/advowork/output 2>&1 [10:14] ripdisk: http://www.websitepulse.com/help/tools.php [10:14] EvilDennisR: sorry, don't what to do... [10:14] AdvoWork: That will be your crontab [10:14] EvilDennisR: sorry, don't know what to do... [10:14] wilson: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:14] Good morning, anyone available with expertise on migrating PostGreSQL from 8.2 to 8.3 after a gutsy --> hardy upgrade [10:14] ikonia: i'm trying to test ssh in specific. [10:15] Guhhh [10:15] ripdisk: yes, so use that tool to test port 22 [10:15] so... anyone know, why init is not starting udev before mountall? [10:15] wilson: Then add in the stuff you had pasted in pastebin -- Don't just paste it in blindly, ADD the lines that are missing to the correct sections [10:15] I'm having SUCH a freaking hard time connecting my windows mobile phone to Ubuntu.... [10:15] Update went simple with apt-get dist upgrade after chaning sources.list [10:15] peleg: but the security packages need to be security.ubuntu.com [10:15] ardchoille: nice spot [10:15] ty [10:15] So now I have an empty postgres 8.3 and a still running 8.2 postgres DB with my data [10:16] EvilDennisR: Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/octet-stream" [10:16] ardchoille, thanks [10:16] ikonia: that is very very helpful, thank you so frickin much [10:16] WHAT [10:16] EvilDennisR, whats 2>&1 opens 2 for redirection, dont get that [10:16] AdvoWork: 2>&1 means redirect error output to the stdoutput [10:16] wilson: How the hell did you get that error? sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:17] ikonia, now, sudo apt-get update gives me "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [10:17] xorg.conf is just a textfile [10:17] !gksudo | Evil_DuDe wilson [10:17] ripdisk: your welcome [10:17] peleg: Thats because 7.10 isn't supported anymore =( [10:17] EvilDennisR: he's upgraded to 8 [10:17] hurray! [10:17] Evil_DuDe wilson: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [10:18] Evil_DuDe: sorry, that was meant for EvilDennisR [10:18] ikonia, should I apt-get upgrade withput updating, then? [10:18] peleg: update first [10:18] peleg: no, update [10:18] I just assume everyone is typing commands into a terminal [10:18] but I can't update :( [10:18] ikonia: He's _trying_ to upgrade to 8.04 I thought [10:18] EvilDennisR: still needs gksudo, even in term [10:18] EvilDennisR, I am [10:18] so ikonia, with that being said, the connection is working... is there any reason why i wouldn't be able to connect to my own public IP? [10:19] ardchoille: says who! [10:19] but the tests come out OK [10:19] hey guys, i just installed karmic my wireless is working great on gnome, but i just installed e17, wireless doesn't seem to work any ideas ? [10:19] !gksudo > EvilDennisR [10:19] EvilDennisR: the content of my xorg.conf is just the same with the content of the pastebin [10:19] EvilDennisR, please see my private message [10:19] any body help me install desktop not kde [10:20] No one for this one: anyone available with expertise on migrating PostGreSQL from 8.2 to 8.3 after a gutsy --> hardy upgrade [10:20] GABBAR: e17 doesn't start network manager applet would be my guess, so you don't get a connection. [10:20] ardchoille: Right, but sudo gedit still works.. [10:20] ardchoille, when I have old-releases... I can update, but can't upgrade. to upgrade, I need to change old-releases to us.archive (for example) -- but then I can't update. How do I fix that loop? [10:20] ardchoille: Are you going by what you know, or just from what you've heard in here? [10:20] alankila, k lemme try starting it [10:21] Hi, am new here. May I pose a question about audio? Somehow I made my headset microphone to sound always distorted. do you know how to restore audio settings to the default? thinkpad, jaunty, alsa+oss [10:21] EvilDennisR: please provide proper advice, that means gksudo for gui apps and sudo for cli apps only. You can do whatever yoiu want with your system [10:21] wilson: ...did you run the dpkg command first? [10:21] * alankila thinks e17, and all the other window managers / des are mostly just a failfest. The open source community can barely make one thing work well if they try very hard: having a 10 different options practically guarantees no one of them will work. [10:21] EvilDennisR: if you would read the page ubottu posted, you'd know why [10:21] alankila, ermm how i start the network manager applet manualy ? [10:22] EvilDennisR: yes , sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, then sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:22] GABBAR: I just hinted at the answer: not worth finding out. Just use GNOME :) [10:22] ardchoille: You didn't answer my question -- sudo gedit still works if you're running it in a terminal -- I _DID_ read that page, it only says its an issue for firefox and other applications, NOT for something like gedit [10:22] alankila, i wanna use e17, [10:22] GABBAR: but if you are adventurous, try "nm-applet" from command line. It either starts or fails. [10:22] wilson: ..and only what you had in pastebin is in there? [10:22] ripdisk: firewall, not listening on the right network config etc, test it with ssh localhost make sure it's actually responding ok [10:22] EvilDennisR: please provide proper advice, that means gksudo for gui apps and sudo for cli apps only. You can do whatever you want with your system [10:23] GABBAR: or maybe it's called network-manager-applet or Network-Manager-applet. I'm not quite sure what they call that little thing. [10:23] EvilDennisR: ya, same content [10:23] nm-applet it is [10:23] EvilDennisR: feel free to discuss this with the ops in #ubuntu-ops, it's channel policy [10:23] I've got a cronjob running as: /home/Scripts/zimbra_full_backup.sh /home/Scripts/zimbra_full_backup_log.log 2>&1 running as the zimbra user(it must), and get the error: Error occurred: system failure: Unable to create directory /home/ZimbraBackups/tmp/full-20100219.102035.713/sys any ideas why? what permissions should /home/ZimbraBackups/ have in order to allow me to make any dir or sub dir? [10:23] anyone here good with raid arrays? [10:23] ardchoille: So you can't actually answer my question.. [10:23] got a bad situation here, that i keep reading such conflicting info about on the messageboards [10:23] alankila, well i guess its running, but since i can't see it anywhere hehehe [10:23] How do I remove the executable bit from a bunch of files copied from an NTFS partition while retaining it on the directories? [10:23] GABBAR: if it starts, then good. You can probably force it to start somehow at beginning of session. If it doesn't work, you're probably out of luck with respect to that. [10:23] EvilDennisR: it's channel policy <-- your answer [10:24] GABBAR: and I state again: don't use e17. It's stupid. [10:24] !anyone | Logicwax [10:24] Logicwax: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [10:24] LSD|Ninja: chmod -x [10:24] Not supported. Nonsense. Just wastes time. [10:24] alankila hmm [10:24] well i just didnt want to interrupt with lots of lines [10:24] ardchoille: You should join #guifications and check our their channel policy [10:24] alankila, ok, can ya help me on a related topic ?/ [10:24] hoping someone can help me before i screw up my data [10:24] I'm running Karmic koala....and i also have a raid5 softarray using a cheap silicon image sata pci card [10:24] AdvoWork, the directory and all subs should belong to its user [10:24] EvilDennisR: Won'tthat remove it from directoriwes as well, or has it grown some brains since the last time I needed to do this? [10:24] alankila, if i don't wanna use nm=applet for using my wireless on gnome, what are the alternatives ? [10:25] 3x 1.5TB disks in the array. well one of the drives failed [10:25] Logicwax, thats why you should put it all in one line [10:25] By the way, is e17 the enlightenment version they've been working on for at least 5 years? Or is it more now? [10:25] I originally made the array by going into the RAID setup util on bootup (the bios inside the raid card) and setting up a raid5 array......ubuntu automatically mapped it to a /dev/mapper address, in fact here was the line from my fstab [10:25] alankila, i tried wicd on gnome, it detected by wireless, but never connected, it authenticated etc. but always got stuck on the getting ip address part [10:25] LSD|Ninja: chmod -R -x directory/ should ignore directories... but now that you say that, I'm not 100% on that =) [10:25] alankila, hehe no idea [10:25] "/dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc /media/vanix ext4 defaults 1 2" [10:25] Hi I run a small network of ubuntu karmic computers and I came in this morning and one of them had hung. Looking in the logs I found someone (or a script i guess) had tried to log into the machine via SSH with many different user names and then suddenly the machine died. The other machines on the network also experienced the same attack but did not die. I'm trying to find out why this individual machine died and not the other - can anyone suggest something? [10:25] GABBAR: wicd, or somehow configure nm-applet to start the connection even when the applet isn't running. It's possible somehow, but I don't know the tools too well [10:26] alankila, i tried wicd on gnome, it detected by wireless, but never connected, it authenticated etc. but always got stuck on the getting ip address part [10:26] so one of the drives failed....and now all I see in the left column in a gnome folder window is "raid5 array" and when i click on it, it asks "do you want to mount this array in degraded mode?". I click yes, but nothing happens. my question to anyone who can help is: ive read I need to re-create an array using mdadm. I want to know if this will totally wipe my data [10:26] EvilDennisR: I'll give it a shot, I can always recopy them from the source (mounting it with a sane umask/dirmask)... [10:26] Heres a intresting question ;) Any way to find out when a hotmail.com account was created? I know it was 90' sometime, but it would be cool to find out the excact date. Any suggestions how i can find this out? [10:26] GABBAR: well, tells all about how well linux stuff works. There's generally only one thing that works (which is what everyone else is doing). Step outside that, and you're mostly on your own. [10:26] Hmph. I accidentally disabled wireless, now re-enabled and it hangs on "Device not ready" [10:26] LSD|Ninja: looks like it -x directories too [10:26] nibbler, what do you mean, im running the cronjob as the zimbra user, so what do i have todo with the destination dir? [10:26] Logicwax, i'd guess you dont have a mdadm array before, but a fakeraid. you need rais utils of your motherboard to handle this [10:27] AdvoWork, chown zimbra /home/zimbra -R [10:27] EvilDennisR: That's what I thought. I used to have a script for this, but it's in a book that's 100km away right now >_< [10:27] nibbler: not part of my mobo...its a addon card i got [10:27] also to add, if I type "mdadm --examine /dev/sde" I see that is disk 1/3 in the raid5 array. and if I change it to "/dev/sdf" I see that is disk 0 in the array [10:27] Logicwax, ah ok, then of the addon card! there is tools for stuff like this, but it is not mdadm if its a real raid (also fakeraid is not mdadm) [10:27] nibbler, AdvoWork, rather sudo chown zimbra:zimbra /home/zimbra -R [10:28] EvilDennisR: whats seems to be wrong with my system? [10:28] LSD|Ninja: You could do something like for x in `find`; do if [ !-d $x ]; then chmod -x $x; done [10:28] oh its not a real raid [10:28] hi [10:28] its one of those $30 cheapy silicon image softraids [10:28] anyone know a channel where to ask about freetype? [10:28] LSD|Ninja: (double check that if statment, I think its wrong -d is directory) [10:28] i dont seem to find a font that would have any kerning info :/ [10:29] EvilDennisR: whats seems to be the problem with my system? [10:29] wilson: ?? mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/ -- then try dpkg --reconfig again [10:29] Logicwax, ah okays, for that you sould not use a extra controller at all, but rather make linux handle it completely. ok, if it is mdadm raid, then try to strat it in degraded manually and hot-add a new/the old device? [10:29] ugh, it's almost 5:30 [10:29] I need help with my wireless card... [10:29] ok, so I am back to the start point. Ubuntu, for some reason, does not offer me any possible known way to upgrade from 7.10 at the moment... so it practically means I am stuck with 7.10 forever :) [10:30] well actually, I need help getting wireless to work on ubuntu [10:30] nibbler: well the hdd failed tonight. this will probably take about 2 weeks to get it replaced. in the meantime, I'd like to access my data with the other 2 disks left [10:30] EvilDennisR: ok its emty [10:30] EvilDennisR: ok its empty [10:30] peleg: Repartition your stuff! [10:30] peleg, just reinstall 9.10 - save your home beforeand thats it [10:30] can someone PM me with support, I wanna get my wireless working on ubuntu. [10:30] anyone know how to switch desktops while vbox is running full screen? [10:30] wilson: you mean the dpkg command gave you an empty xorg.conf file? [10:30] Flipz: It'd be better to ask on channel [10:30] srys? [10:30] Hello, whe I start my Ubuntu Netbook i see only my Desktop but no menu or something else [10:30] !pm | Flipz [10:30] nibbler: and like i said, it wasnt made in mdadm originally. it was created in the card's bios utility upon startup...and ubuntu automatically mapped it to /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc [10:30] Flipz: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [10:30] EvilDennisR: yes [10:30] K... [10:30] wilson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ? [10:31] I wanna get my wireless network card to work on ubuntu [10:31] I have that program...ndwiswrapper or something [10:31] LaireTM: I think the problem is panel died. Hit alt+f2, type gnome-panel, hit enter [10:31] but I dunno how 2 install it [10:31] EvilDennisR: yes [10:31] EvilDennisR, nibbler: that means hours of hours of hours of work afterwards; my ubuntu is so customized, it's going to be awful to try and restore everything... [10:31] theadmin: alt+f2 dont work [10:31] anyone know what to do? [10:31] no? hmm [10:31] peleg: ..typically the upgrades don't work =) [10:31] it says my netgear card doesn't register [10:31] Logicwax: are you aware of the fact that in RAID, all disks have a tendency to fail at the same time? You are in a very dangerous situation right now. [10:32] whats the ubuntu offtopic channel? [10:32] nibbler: ubuntu is at least smart enough to know that is degraded, AND, it even asks me if I want to mount the degraded array when I click on it in gnome. but nothing happens [10:32] peleg, normally you should have all your configs left in homedir, backup your /etc aswell, should be no more than one hour ususally [10:32] LaireTM: Ah, then it's the window manager. [10:32] so anyone know what to do? [10:32] theadmin: and what do now? [10:32] Krewl: #ubuntu-offtopic [10:32] Logicwax: unless you have backups [10:32] Logicwax, i'd try it in the commandline, check mdadm manpages [10:32] so anyone know what to do? [10:32] so anyone know what to do? [10:32] alankila: yeah...id like to read/access the data though. even to back it up purposes [10:32] EvilDennisR, but ubuntu upgrades itself twice a year. Don't you think it is really weird (and frustrating) to reinstall your OS twice a year? [10:32] theadmin: That was ahem.. predictable, but thanx anyway [10:33] peleg: ..thats why I always put /home/ on its own partition my friend [10:33] what kind of wireless hub is it Flipz , whta version of Ubuntu are you running ? what kind o f computer is it running on /? [10:33] I'm running a dell on ubuntu 9.10 [10:33] LarieTM: I dunno... maybe some config file or something, but i really didn't work with UNR... [10:33] peleg, if you do it twice a year, an upgrde does work fine. its just you didnt do it in 2-3 years :) [10:34] nibbler, for example, I have a custom keyboard layout; for that, I needed to edit a few files in /etc, but I can't remember exactly which -- that was a long time ago. How will I know which files, after reinstalling ubuntu? [10:34] peleg: that way I can just tgz /etc/, and dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages -- install the new version on /, copy whatever config files to /etc/ and reinstall all the packages I had installed with sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade [10:34] nibbler: well i did...and thats my question. if mdadm knows whats up with "--examine" argument, then will i screw up anything if I re-create the array in mdadm? [10:34] EvilDennisR: i tried to save the configuration again [10:34] I had a RAID5 of 4x160 GB disks and 2 of the disks failed just couple of days apart. [10:34] EvilDennisR: save configuration [10:34] Surprisingly, the other 2 have been running for years [10:34] my netgear is a wg311 [10:34] it's a wireless card [10:34] nibbler, that's not true. I have this computer less then 2 years. I have upgraded to 7.10 about a year ago, after having 7.04 for about 8 months. [10:35] peleg, 7.x is from 2007 [10:35] upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 took me about a week. [10:35] EvilDennisR: should i use xorg.conf? [10:35] wilson: sure? [10:35] nibbler, I know, but I bought this laptop with this ubuntu version on it. That's how it was (blame Dell) [10:35] My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter [10:35] And it won't work [10:35] EvilDennisR: The fsck just got done, I rebooted and now I'm getting "error: file not found" and then a grub rescue prompt. What do I do? :( [10:35] so how do I make it work on ubuntu? [10:35] wilson: why dpkg isn't putting anything in xorg.conf is beyond me [10:35] peleg, ok, dell is to blame then ;-) [10:36] Logicwax: anyway, you can probably -- if the MD is compatible -- use mdadm --asseble /dev/md0 ... etc to rebuild the disk. But this only works if the appropriate superblocks exist. [10:36] RPG_Master: You had the raid stuff, right? [10:36] EvilDennisR, I have no idea what's written there :) [10:36] RPG_Master: ..I've been drinking tonight. I come in here and answer questions when I'm bored =) [10:37] Logicwax: if they do not, chances are only the motherboard bios setup and associated linux-side kernel modules know how to handle the disks. This is general bane of using the BIOS-driven raids, they aren't always compatible with MD & the code paths used are different. [10:37] Gheddy_Zarc my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important [10:37] EvilDennisR: Nope, I'm the dude who ^C'd a fsck :P [10:37] so what do i do? [10:37] peleg: ..and thats why you will have to reinstall your system from scratch my friend [10:37] EvilDennisR: my xorg.conf is empty === madmax_X_ is now known as madmax_X_not-her === madmax_X_not-her is now known as madmax_X_nothere === soeren is now known as Guest80561 [10:37] RPG_Master: ah right.. .. so type root (hd0,0) [10:38] RPG_Master: kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 [10:38] wilson: are you sure? did you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/x11/xorg.conf (notice the "X) [10:38] EvilDennisR, will you know how to explain me how to put the new keyboard layout back, for example? [10:38] RPG_Master: initrc /initrd [10:38] Good morning! I noticed the following error during boot on ibex: mp-bios bug: 8254 timer not connectied to io-apic . A bit of reading shows I can disable IOAPIC (device interrupt controller as I understand it) either in BIOS or GRUB. What rammifications will this have for performance on my desktop machine? [10:38] EvilDennisR: All on one line? [10:38] my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now? [10:38] RPG_Master: Naw, enter after each line [10:38] OK [10:38] alankila: well mdadm seems to "know whats up" with the two disks. if I use the --examine argument on the two disks...it gives me all sorts of info about the original raid, how big it was, and what disk number each hdd was in the raid [10:38] but ikonia was on his way of showing me how to upgrade, but then stopped; ikonia: do you agree that upgrading will be impossible for me? [10:38] is it possible to reinstall my ubuntu system over network and recovery mode? [10:38] Damn, the singer from flyleaf is HOT /ADD [10:39] !language | EvilDennisR [10:39] EvilDennisR: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [10:39] Grah. I got "Ubuntu One" in "Places" after accidentally launching it. How do i get rid of that? [10:39] Logicwax: good. Chances are the mobo raid is compatible. There was some talk about cooperation between various RAID software and a common superblock format, maybe that stuff has bore fruit [10:39] archoille: both are empty [10:39] What language!? Hot?? Or Attention deficit disorder?? [10:39] alankila: also if i just run "mdadm /dev/sde" (or sdf), i get this: /dev/sde: device 1 in 3 device undetected raid5 /dev/.tmp.md0. Use mdadm --examine for more detail. [10:39] Logicwax: you may have to assemble the MD with one device marked as "missing", by that string [10:39] nibbler, theadmin im trying to chown that directory, which has these permissions: drwxrwxrwx 2 root 65533 yet, it wont let me, permission denied. Problem is, I need to run the backup program as zimbra user, but the /home/backup folder is a mounted share onto my freenas box, so i think this is where the problem could be? [10:40] ardchoille: So do you actually answer anyones questions in here? [10:40] ardchoille: Or just moderate? [10:40] EvilDennisR: Please be productive. [10:40] Logicwax: and I can't stress enough the need to backup immediately if you get the MD assembled. The danger of multiple disk failure is very real, as all disks are often from the same batch & have been equally strongly exercised by the RAID [10:40] AdvoWork, yep, fix your mount options to make it user writable [10:40] so they have the tendency to all fail at the same time [10:40] ardchoille: Last time I checked I was in here on my own accord at 5:40am EST answering peoples questions.. [10:41] AdvoWork: How about doing "sudo -iu zimbra" and doing backup as that user? [10:41] EvilDennisR: May I pm you? [10:41] ardchoille: No. [10:41] archoille: both are empty [10:41] theadmin, what does that do? [10:41] AdvoWork: Opens bash as "zimbra" [10:41] EvilDennisR: I guess you don't really want an answer then :) [10:41] alankila: i read that. well, assembling doesnt work, as it then yells at me saying: mdadm --assemble /dev/sdf /dev/sde then it returns "mdadm: /dev/sdf assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array." [10:42] EvilDennisR: it isn't recognising "root (hd0,0)" [10:42] Logicwax: --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdf /dev/sde missing [10:42] assuming you have a 3-disk RAID5 [10:42] oh, yeah i tried the missing, and same thing [10:42] Logicwax: you are not reading me [10:42] ikonia, are you still here? Should I wait for your answer? [10:42] RPG_Master: this the grub prompt, or the busybox prompt? [10:42] theadmin, i put that in my script and it still came up with the same [10:42] alankila: "mdadm: cannot open device missing: No such file or directory [10:42] mdadm: missing has no superblock - assembly aborted [10:42] Logicwax: --assemble >>> /dev/md0 <<< [10:42] nibbler, how can i fix it, when im doing the mount as \\ip\share /home/dir cifs exec [10:42] AdvoWork: I dunno whether you can use sudo in scripts... hm. [10:42] ah [10:43] EvilDennisR: "grub>" [10:43] EvilDennisR: I've been answering questions in this channel and on the ubuntu forums for years :) [10:43] RPG_Master: type root (hd then hit tab, see what it gives you for results [10:43] EvilDennisR: *"grub rescue>" [10:43] theadmin, it did say: sudo: please use single character options Password: when i ran the cronjob [10:43] And the "missing" should really work. I used it just today to build a raid1 out of a degraded array. [10:43] RPG_Master: grub rescue? Hrrm, weird.. [10:43] AdvoWork, sorry, cant tell you. check "man mount.cifs" you cann tell what local user the mount should belong to etc [10:43] alankila: now i have to reboot. everytime i run the assemble command....then it just yells at me saying no superblock found. but oddly, its there when i reboot [10:43] But ... hmm ... I should probably double-check, to be sure ... I did use --build with missing, not --assemble [10:44] EvilDennisR: Does nothing :( [10:44] AdvoWork: Oh... My... ah, it won't let this work, because a cronjob won't run the bash shell i belive [10:44] Logicwax: yes, the mdadm command is very strange in that way that it has a tendency to somehow break the disks until reboot [10:44] alankila: yes the Build command. this is why I came into this chan...i wanted to know if this will hose all my data? [10:44] * alankila can't help feeling that linux md is a joke [10:45] heh [10:45] Logicwax: the --build is dangerous to the extreme to existing data [10:45] theadmin, i tried: http://pastebin.com/d3526c69e but the 2nd line is the one i need to do, but as said, ive got to run the zmbackup as zimbra user [10:45] thats what i was afraid of [10:45] it basically tells MD to make a new device, write the superblock infos, and if enough devices are present, it also builds the redundancy data in the devices [10:45] oh geeze [10:45] ardchoille: Good for you. Pidgin -> help -> about -> Crazy Patch Writers: [10:46] In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how can i configure it for full screen? [10:46] Mehedi_Simon, isnt torcs an old outdated ugly racing game? [10:46] Logicwax: that being said, it is harmless if you --build with exactly the same arguments as before, because the MD is deterministic and will do all things the same way. Sadly, you don't have mdadm-made RAID5 so I can't guarantee safety. --assemble is safer, especially with a missing drive, as there is no redundancy info to build in that case [10:46] ya [10:47] But can u tell me about a good one? [10:47] But it's also true that --assemble will start building the redundancy info in some cases, so that too could be dangerous to data. However, normally you can only assemble a RAID that is consistent with linux md's expectations & it's OK [10:47] Mehedi_Simon, they have a mailing list wait [10:47] Mehedi_Simon, maybe you could ask in thee [10:47] where? [10:48] How do I disable shadows? [10:48] Mehedi_Simon, is it a pretty decent game? i would like to try it too [10:48] In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how can i configure it for full screen? [10:48] Mehedi_Simon, http://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/torcs-users [10:49] alankila: well...can you tell me what exactly is responsible for making the /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc path? [10:49] that it made in the first place [10:49] Logicwax: I will also recommend staying away from RAID5 in the future. RAID1 is the most I personally dare to use, because I'm not dependent on getting the assembling right [10:50] well...i wanted more space and redundancy [10:50] Logicwax: well, it might be some device-mapper compatible raid (another way in linux to make raids) but I know very little about device-mapper. [10:50] I haz a tired [10:50] In Torcs racing game i m unable to play it on full screen mode. how can i configure it for full screen? [10:51] if ive got: drwxrwxrwx 4 root 65533 0 2010-02-19 10:42 zimbra_full_backups how come i get permission denied, when i do: chown zimbra:zimbra zimbra_full_backups/ [10:51] how to clear samba log from /var/log/samba directory ... [10:51] alankila: ok i did this " mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdf /dev/sde missing" and i got this: mdadm: cannot open device missing: No such file or directory [10:51] mdadm: missing has no superblock - assembly aborted [10:51] AdvoWork: you need sudo [10:51] Logicwax: but indeed, there is both dm and md. dm is generally used by lvm for assembling dynamically resizable disks out of physical media, it's mostly an indirection layer of sorts... and then there's md for multiple-device, the classic raid solution of linux [10:51] hey.. does anyone know what im supposed to do to get this wifi set up? [10:52] Logicwax: ok. Leave the missing out, then. I suppose --assemble doesn't support that form of invication [10:52] ardchoille, i need to make it as the zimbra user, and ive already su zimbra'd [10:52] so im running that command as zimbra [10:52] Logicwax: maybe it needs a --force to force starting the md even when disks are missing, then [10:52] mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives (out of 3). [10:52] !!! [10:52] AdvoWork: yes, but the folder belongs to root, not zimbra [10:52] woohoo [10:52] Logicwax: cool! Now try to mount it [10:53] http://pastebin.com/m6bf5bf62 stops at line 4, how do I make it continue to end? [10:53] ardchoille, i even did su zimbra, then mkdir newfolder and it still woulndt let me though [10:53] " mount -t ext4 /dev/md0 /media/vanix/" [10:53] "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0" [10:54] ahhh was so close [10:54] rascal999, i guess it waits for a password? [10:54] Logicwax: are the disks given to md in correct order? I'm not sure if it would matter, though [10:54] AdvoWork: is zimbra your username? [10:54] nibbler: no it chroots and doesn't continue until i 'exit' [10:54] yes, when i did the --examine....sdf was disk 0/3, and sde was 1/3 [10:54] ardchoille, im logged in as root, but zimbra is a user on the system, the zimbra user has to run certain programs [10:54] Logicwax: the stupid thing ought to be able to read the superblocks though [10:54] rascal999, thats also the nature of chroot, make it execute exit in the chroot [10:55] is in ubuntu twaek advisable to delete packages cache ( in package cleaner option clean cache )??? [10:55] AdvoWork: you logged into the desktop as root user? That's a bad idea. [10:55] alankila: check this out, fdisk sees it as this "Disk /dev/md0: 3000.6 GB, 3000603639808 bytes [10:55] "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table" [10:55] !sudo | AdvoWork There's no need to have the root account enabled [10:55] AdvoWork There's no need to have the root account enabled: sudo is a command to run command-line ( see !cli ) programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) [10:55] nibbler: but I need to to run the subsequent commands in chroot [10:55] ardchoille, i know, its a 1 off... [10:55] alankila: well...it got the size right....at least. 3TB is how big the original raid was [10:55] Logicwax: err... so we can conclude that the superblock information on the devices is not compatible with mdadm [10:56] Logicwax: shut the raid array down now. [10:56] ardchoille, but why cant i make a new folder as the zimbra user? [10:56] Logicwax: oh you mean you do have 3 TB on it? [10:56] AdvoWork: If you enabled the root account and are logged into that account on the desktop, then I can't help you. [10:56] ardchoille, i sshd in as root [10:56] alankila: yea well my original RAID set was 3x 1.5TB drives [10:56] Logicwax: well in that case I guess it kinda works... but what's this about partitions, do you have partitions on it? [10:56] ardchoille, so im on ther terminal [10:57] how can i change my uplash screen? [10:57] rascal999, chroot /mydir myscript.sh <- you need to execute another script in the chroot enviroment. maybe you can also echo exit |chroot /mydir [10:57] alankila: yeah...actually....heh, i dunno if this matters. but I just wrote a direct ext4 to it. [10:58] didnt partition it, as gparted always got in the way and insisted on making multuple partitions [10:58] Logicwax: no, you did the right thing. Linux probably wouldn't try to read a partition table out of a multiple-device device. [10:58] AdvoWork: I've beenusing Ubuntu for 5 years and have never seen the need to enable the root account. If you want my advice, log out of the root account, lock the root account and learn to use sudo/gksudo. [10:58] nibbler: yeah, thanks [10:58] Logicwax: partitions are made on the raw device, smaller mds are then assembled out of the partitions. [10:58] ah [10:59] so did i mount it wrongly? [10:59] Logicwax: anyway, I do not know why md does not accept the device. I can only guess that the metadata as parsed by md & the one written by the /dev/mapper/stuff is somehow inconsistent. It's annoying, but you probably have to figure out how to force that /dev/mapper thing to map it with a missing drive. [10:59] rascal999, welcome [11:00] ardchoille, ok noted, ill sort that asap! but that still doesnt help this issue though [11:00] "mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives (out of 3)." <<---isnt that proof that it is compatible with mds? [11:00] Logicwax: it was able to start it, but the fact no filesystem is found on device indicates that the assemble was not actually correct. The disks are used in wrong order or something. [11:01] Logicwax: or wrong stripe length, or wrong parity algorithm, or any other number of reasons why RAID5 can fail [11:01] how can i change my uplash screen? [11:01] And that means the mdadm is currently best understood as *dangerous* to the data. Should you now write to /dev/md0 you would damage the data on it. [11:02] nibbler: how do i make it stay in chroot? I have [11:02] http://pastebin.com/m3c368a3e and http://pastebin.com/m20d203f3 [11:03] rascal999, no idea :-) sorry i'm out [11:03] alankila: ack! what about dm? [11:03] Logicwax: I know too little about dm. [11:03] ardchoille, so no matter what user, even if im already the zimbra user, why wouldnt i be able to create a new directory under the zimbra user? [11:04] I only barely managed to learn to use raidtools when it got replaced by raidtools2 and then it got replaced by mdadm and maybe mdadm will be replaced by dm in the future, I don't know. I only know how to use mdadm right now, and dm is a big question mark. === atomiku is now known as atomiku|sleep [11:05] alankila: ok...well then I guess its safe to assume dmraid is responsible for that /dev/mapper path? [11:05] hrmmm.... [11:05] Logicwax: yes, the /dev/mapper is a smoking gun here about device-mapper being involved, I guess. But let me check one thing. [11:05] lookie at this! [11:05] dmraid -r === joseph is now known as Guest21512 [11:06] has anyone got wireless working on an Acer Travelmate 2300? [11:06] "/dev/sdf: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0 [11:06] "/dev/sde: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0 [11:06] that looks.........good [11:06] Logicwax: good. So remove mdadm now, try to cope with dmraid. [11:06] I'll have to study which one I should be using, if mdadm is on the way out [11:07] * alankila scratches head === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [11:08] alankila: i think dmraid is the new thing to use....even though that sounds biasd [11:08] Logicwax: well, it is the one you should almost certainly be using... and to be honest, I've had a bad experience with mdadm. [11:08] so I don't miss it if it's gone, but I don't understand why the tools have to change every 2 years or so. [11:09] Am I the only one always having issues with pulseaudio? I'm so fed up that it "constantly" fails on all different kinds of hardware ... Linux audio was much more stable 10 years ago [11:09] hi anyone here used enlightment wm before [11:09] Hopefully dm will be here to stay [11:09] im trying to install gnome-desktop-environment, but its telling me it depends on fast-user-switch-applet which theres no installation candidate for [11:09] pedestrianentran is your wireless adapter Atheros-based? Most accers are... [11:10] hi everybody .... I would like to purge all the packages that are marked rc when I run dpkg -l .... anyone who knows how? I have tried different technicques but it did not work ....:( [11:10] my sound is all of a sudden "gone" (pulseaudio is running, alsa running) [11:10] like dpkg -l | grep -i 'rc ' | apt-get purge [11:10] or dpkg -l | grep -i 'rc ' | dpkg --purge [11:10] or dpkg --purge -a [11:11] * alankila finds device-mapper raids unimpressive [11:11] heh [11:11] dmraid -ay -v [11:11] RAID set "sil_bgabdiajccbc" was not activated [11:11] thats about as far as i can get [11:11] still in 2008 there was no read balancing on dm-raid1, it apparently always read from just one disk or something. *puke* [11:11] even when i tell it to directly activate them [11:11] so im lookin for some sort of "who cares if its degraded, mount it you idiot!" argument [11:12] Maybe something wonderful has happened in 2 years, but 2 years isn't long and this stuff has been there forever... I guess nobody really uses software raids in linux? I find it hard to believe given how unfriendly mdadm is, and how poor dm appears to be. :-/ [11:12] why dont you like dm? [11:12] Logicwax: *shrug* [11:13] ct529, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l grep "^rc" | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -P (unofficial out the top of my head ... try without the xargs dpkg -P first) [11:13] Logicwax: it's not me. When I read in 2008 that raid1 -- the only raid level I personally trust with data -- only reads from 1 disk and doesn't handle read failure, I simply groan [11:13] !ot rants in offtopic please → [11:13] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:13] to me, that makes device-mapper worthless. It would have been worthless as soon as 2008 [11:13] !ot | rants in offtopic please → [11:13] rants in offtopic please →: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [11:14] hrmm [11:14] I would like to be able to play wma files using rhythmbox. I can play them using mplayer. but not vlc or rhythmbox. I have w32codecs installed [11:14] is it possible? [11:14] !ubottu [11:14] Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [11:15] sam_: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ? [11:15] alankila: /dev/sdf: sil, "sil_bgabdiajccbc", raid5_ls, ok, 2930275630 sectors, data@ 0 [11:15] those two lines [11:15] erUSUL, yep [11:15] !ubottu | ubottu [11:15] tuxattack: please see above [11:15] for sde too...thats a good sign, at least, right? [11:15] candyban: yes! COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep "^rc" | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs dpkg -P [11:15] candyban: it is working .... thanks you very much!!!! === Mowee is now known as Mowee`Bnc [11:15] hello . i need help with tvtime, cant change frquencies in composite1. what do i do? [11:15] Logicwax: yes, it's aware of the RAID. You just have to look for some option to force it to start in degraded mode, I guess. If it can't do that, then, well, I guess DM proves to be just as bad with raid5 as it apparently is/was with raid1 [11:15] ct529, np [11:16] So anyone know if it is possible? [11:16] sam_: and you have gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg instaled ? [11:17] candyban: do you have any good tutorial for awk and xargs [11:17] yep [11:17] sam_: it is possible iirc (now i use banshee) [11:17] ct529: #bash ; #awk [11:17] ct529, awk is a programming language (but very useful) ... you could have used cut as well [11:17] !cli | ct529 [11:17] ct529: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro [11:18] ct529, and man xargs ;) [11:18] well the fact that is says "ok" comforts me [11:18] alankila: thank you so much for your help [11:19] Anyone have a idea about what makes wma files play? [11:19] littlegreen: linksys [11:19] gnome is pissing me off right now === Mowee`Bnc is now known as Mowee [11:20] Logicwax: yeah, maybe it just needs all drives before it's back online. [11:20] sam_: according to « gst-inspect-0.10 | grep wma » is the ffmpeg plugin [11:20] pedestrianentran use wired internet connection and update your drivers using the "Hardware Drivers" applet. Worked for me on three acer laptops so far - 2 Atheros-based chips and one linksys' [11:21] alankila: according to some quick googling....people have had to resort to booting windows to fix the fakeraid!!! because dmraid doesnt understand degrading [11:21] Logicwax: it seems that raid5 with dm was "in early stages" as soon as 2008. Ugly. I guess the md code is still the better choice in general. [11:22] alankila: do i rebuild the array in linux? or in the cards bios util? [11:22] Logicwax: do ot use fakeraid. the only justification for using it is the need for the array to be accesed by both windows and linux. if you only have linux use linux's software raid [11:22] Logicwax: I don't know. [11:23] erUSUL: here's a justification.....im not spending $300 on a real raid card [11:23] * alankila just screwed up with his laptop's raid setup [11:23] erUSUL, I think i already have ffmpeg. Which package in particular should I download? [11:24] Logicwax: nobody asked you to do such a thing. [11:24] sam_: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg [11:24] I used mdadm --build instead of mdadm --create, for some stupid reason. --build works without metadata, --create adds metadata. Moves start of partition, but is necessary if you want to boot the thing correctly. *sigh* So I just realized I must rebuild the entire filesystem after remaking the raid with --create [11:24] Logicwax: configure the card to be just a sata controller (jobod or similar) then use mdadm to assemble a linux raid [11:24] !raid [11:24] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [11:24] erUSUL, already got that i'm afraid [11:25] sam_: then i dunno sorry [11:25] OK fair enough [11:25] sam_: wmas play in totem ? [11:25] thanks for trying [11:25] hrmmm [11:25] erUSUL, no [11:26] erUSUL: ok i see what you mean....using mdadm to assemble linux raid [11:26] what about dmraid? [11:26] how can i change my uplash screen? [11:27] i think my solution will be to get to bed right now...wakeup tomorrow and goto frys...get a new 1.5TB drive, and then tell dmraid to rebuild [11:27] Logicwax: I can only relay the words from 2008 "dmraid 5 support is still in early stages" [11:27] Logicwax: dmraid is a hack to be able tu use fakeraid in linux [11:27] Logicwax, use md instead [11:27] I'm hoping your BIOS has support for rebuilding the RAID. In that case, it's not a problem. [11:27] ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|Windows Media Audio decoder|decoder-audio/x-wma, wmaversion=(int)4, bitrate=(int)1152000 (Windows Media Audio decoder) [11:28] you know...i didnt use EITHER. ubuntu did this for my automatically.....in fact, i still havent confirmed if dmraid is what ubuntu used to make the device mapper [11:28] my card is a My wireless card is a NetGear WG311v3 802.11g Wireless PCI adapter, my version of ubuntu is the latests...I think it's 9.10 and my computer kind isn't important but my wireless won't work, so how do I make it work? I downloaded NDwrapper or whatever it's called, what now? [11:28] Logicwax: so you didn't ever use BIOS to set it up? [11:28] yes [11:29] not the mobo bios, but the card bios...you know on bootup [11:29] same thing tho [11:29] mplayer tells me it is using wma9dmo [11:29] Logicwax: ah. Right. So you DID actually force Ubuntu to use the dm path in that case. [11:29] Logicwax: well the block device names used by dmraid are weird; md raid 8linux soft raid) uses /dev/md0 or similar [11:29] i setup a raid5 in the bios.....then ubuntu automatically made it /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc [11:29] LINUX [11:29] Logicwax, why do you want that "raid"? (ps. You know that it is not REAL raid right?) [11:29] RULES [11:29] Logicwax: it adapts to what is possible. The BIOS raids are like that: you have some kind of support but they are second class citizens apparently. [11:29] Flipz: tell us first what wifi chip does the card uses. [11:30] Flipz: lspci | grep -i net [11:30] Logicwax, it's just fancy bios and an OS driver [11:30] <_shifftyonejr_> When installing Linux to the hard drive, what is teh recomended size for the swap partition? [11:30] k [11:30] why do i want it? cus i wanted 3TB's together as one logical drive, and i wanted it redundant if it ever screwed up. also, i never did anything with RAIDs before in linux [11:30] Logicwax: by using the BIOS tools, you however did force ubuntu's hand. We already know that mdadm's view of the world is not consistent with the fakeraid's. [11:31] _shifftyonejr_: general rule double of ram, but depends on your needs, how much ram ? [11:31] _shifftyonejr_: depends on ram. if you plan to s2disk it has to be of the same size. if you do not want just reserve 1 GiB or so [11:31] <_shifftyonejr_> I am running 768 at this time but getting more ram, [11:31] Logicwax: yes, it's an understandable mistake. I have made a number of them voer the years, which is why I only trust raid1. Call it experience. :-/ [11:31] _shifftyonejr_: then 1GiB is a good choice [11:32] Logicwax, I strongly (really strong) recommend using MD ... never used it on desktop though, but server install should allow you to build raid volumes in the installer [11:32] <_shifftyonejr_> Okay. Thank you. [11:32] alankila: ok...i may have forced ubuntu's hand. id like to know how ubuntu dealt with it (using dmraid? or what???) [11:32] Logicwax, it can do RAID-5, RAID-6, RAID-10 (whatever you want) [11:32] _shifftyonejr_: so if hd is big enough, give it little more, so later hassle; I put down my swapiness very far and seldom run out of ram, so it never swaps (but also I don't hibernate) [11:33] so no* [11:33] Logicwax, and more importantly, it is portable (you can just plug it in in any other machine and it will boot up as expected) [11:33] candyban: what can? [11:33] <_shifftyonejr_> 160GB HD but I have it split between Windows and LInux. [11:33] what is the command for checkin all the drive for errors?? somebody plsd [11:33] Logicwax, md (rather than dmraid) [11:33] ok === FeiRuoWa is now known as zz_FeiRuoWa [11:34] but how do i identify what ubuntu used to make the /dev/mapper/sil_bgabdiajccbc path? [11:34] Logicwax: it's just that ubuntu adapted to the BIOS raid. The BIOS raids are not quite the same thing as MD, they have different layouts of parameters or whatever, so there's some support for them but they just don't work as good as the md stuff. (But my experience is that MD stuff doesn't work that good either.) [11:34] cus still to this point, i have no verified that is was in fact dmraid [11:34] Logicwax, just make sure you have a small RAID-1 partition to install /boot ... rest of the drives can be RAID-5 [11:34] obscurant1st: fsck / e2fsck, but do from live on UNmounted hd only [11:34] Hello [11:35] !hi [11:35] Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [11:35] Logicwax, cat /proc/mdstat [11:35] alankila: raid1 is all nice swell....but i want multiple TBs stringed into one logical drive, thats what im after [11:35] obscurant1st: need more help in that /have a live handy ? [11:35] Logicwax, you can use RAID-5 (or 6 if you want more redundancy) [11:35] candyban: tried that already, doesnt show crap [11:35] yea [11:35] Logicwax, then you don't have md ;) [11:36] but like i said....i need to find out if dmraid was in fact what was used [11:36] Logicwax: yes, well, good luck on that path. I just do not trust I will be able to recover a raid5 volume on failure, and thus I find the data to be in jeopardy and do not sleep well at night. [11:36] or if it was something else [11:36] alankila: you'll prob laugh at me....but i have 10TB on 5x 2TB drives, all LVM'd together [11:37] Logicwax, unless you setup drbd (which I highly doubt) ... the only thing (other than hardware raid and md) that builds a raid device is dmraid [11:37] LVM set to linear mode [11:37] Logicwax: if you have a bios raid configured only dmraid could be used besouse there is not other driver for that kind of devices [11:37] Hello. On which bugzilla can I indicate a problem I’ve encountered in System>Preferences>Keyboard? [11:37] Logicwax: yes, that drive is virtually certain to be trashed any moment now. [11:37] DasEi: i dint get you. [11:37] !bugs | jofo [11:37] jofo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [11:37] obscurant1st: fsck / e2fsck, but do from live on UNmounted hd only [11:37] obscurant1st: need more help in that /have a live handy ? [11:37] hi i can find some icons in /usr/shere/icons whats the other file in usr/share/ [11:37] alankila: what drive is certain to be trashed!?!? [11:37] DasEi: i dont know, my ubuntu was not booting after an partition resize and movement, i hd to mess with the grub for 2 hrs n now its booting, but before while booting lots of errors shown i dont know what are they so i asked [11:37] Logicwax, you do realize that RAID will cost you (at least) 1 disk right? [11:38] yup [11:38] ! [11:38] and btw after the partition resize and move i installed backtrack [11:38] <`mOOse`> Logicwax - movie db? [11:38] Logicwax: well, when any one of your drives break on that array, it may be that you will be unable to fsck the volume at all. And you may lose all data. [11:38] obscurant1st: well, that will have been the uuids of fstab I gues [11:38] `mOOse`: :x [11:38] <`mOOse`> ;-) [11:38] !uuid | obscurant1st [11:38] obscurant1st: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [11:38] alankila: oh your talkin about the LVM volume, eh? [11:38] erUSUL, But what should I write instead of ? The problem is in System>Preferences>Keyboard (in Gnome). [11:38] Logicwax: yes. [11:39] jofo: gnome-keyboard-properties probably [11:39] so before i leave and goto sleep...you guys are saying the best way to string TBs together with tons of hdds....is to use mdadm, are we all agreed on this? [11:39] DasEi: what should i do after getting that uuids? [11:39] Logicwax, just wondering : why are you using LVM? Do you need to create multiple partitions on the fly? [11:39] OK Thanks [11:39] How do I increase my FireFox fonts. FireFox does not to respond to Fonts setting within the application. [11:39] neiterh to changes from System settings [11:39] Logicwax: the support on linux side is still best for the "md", and "dm" is apparently still worthless. [11:39] Logicwax, is it some kind of "production server" [11:40] candyban: i used LVM because....since i have so many HDDs, they are on seperate PCI SATA cards. so i found that LVM strung them all together into one massive disk [11:41] btw how to resinstall and fix my grub? in ubuntu 9.10 [11:41] Logicwax, you can use md for that [11:41] Logicwax: yes, one with no redundancy. When any one of the drives break, I wonder how well the tools will cope with a missing 2 TB chunk of filesystem data. [11:42] Logicwax, md does not care where the disk is at ... you can even use USB disks in there [11:42] Not that you will be able to tell, it probably takes days to fsck it to begin with. Large volumes are *awful*. [11:42] Logicwax, or iscsi exports [11:42] well i assumed it would be like windows dynamic spanned volumes...where if you lose a disk...you just lose what was on THAT disk, since its all written linear [11:42] Hi, I am having some problems with xserver on ubuntu karmic. When I boot it displays a message "failed loading module type1" and lets me to choose to run in low graphics. But if I choose console and write startx, it seems to work... [11:42] erUSUL, The package gnome-keyboard-properties doesn’t exist. [11:43] jofo: dpkg -S $(which gnome-keyboard-properties) ----> gnome-control-center [11:43] so mdadm should be used to bring multiple drives (from all sources) into one big volume, eh? [11:43] Logicwax, it depends ... if you have multiple partitions ... you could be in luck [11:43] just one [11:43] Logicwax: yes, in principle you lose only what was written on that disk, but that doesn't mean the tools are able to cope with it. You should try it, I guess, but I think you'll be disappointed. [11:43] Logicwax, it depends on what exactly you would like to do ... [11:44] Logicwax, lvm on top of multiple md devices works great as well [11:44] this is making me really angry.. i cant get ubuntu installed because it depends on a package that doesnt exist [11:44] that whole set is healthy...but im just worrying for future reference [11:44] erUSUL, What!? [11:44] who paly conquer [11:44] hrmm [11:44] gnome i mean... missing dependancy [11:44] play* [11:44] jofo: the package is gnome-control-center [11:44] OK [11:44] candyban: well the only thing id like to do is what i do: string hdds together to make a big logical drive volume [11:44] and your tellin me mdadm is best for that [11:44] ok [11:45] Logicwax: you would be better off just mounting all disks separately under some kind of scheme like /disk1 /disk2 /disk3 /disk4 /disk5 and moving directories manually between them. That way failure of disk is restricted strictly to that mount point [11:45] yea yea i know...but damn do i love seeing it all in one place ;) [11:46] Logicwax, depends on what your ultimate goal is ... [11:46] Logicwax: yes, but there is a terrible price to having a 10 TB volume. For starters, it is not fsckable in practice. [11:46] It will take days to fsck, I expect [11:46] yea [11:46] Logicwax, is it for storing your mp3s/DVD collection ... or for other purposes? [11:46] DVD [11:46] And you will be running fsck almost certainly when you lose a disk. [11:47] the one i have as raid5 is for mp3...and im more worried about that [11:48] Logicwax, it would be better to use smaller mds (e.g. use 10 mds of 200G each and put them in lvm [11:48] alankila, but without raid, if a disk fails you have to use (and have) backups. ofc. raid is no replacement for backups, but should be an increasment of availability [11:48] what do you mean "mds" [11:48] Logicwax, mds = plural for md ;) [11:48] yeah but i thought md was just short for mdadm [11:49] you mean like md volumes? [11:49] Logicwax, you also have to take into account the rebuild time when you loose a disk [11:49] Logicwax, and with 2TB disks ... this can take some time (in which time you may loose another disk) [11:50] so can mdadm let you define striping across multuple disks? [11:50] Hi, I am having some problems with xserver on ubuntu karmic. When I boot it displays a message "failed loading module type1" and lets me to choose to run in low graphics. But if I choose console and write startx, it seems to work... [11:50] Logicwax, that's what RAID-5 is all about (RAID-3 is a single stripe disk) [11:51] Logicwax, if your data is really important, RAID-6 is the way to go (but then you lose 2 disks) [11:51] candyban: yeah but im asking, can mdadm do raid5 with disks coming from all different sources (different pci cards) [11:51] Logicwax, yes [11:51] sweet [11:51] i'll have to switch to that then sometime soon [11:51] Logicwax, like I said, you can even use a USB disk in there (though not recommended) [11:51] yea [11:51] alright [11:51] Logicwax: actually we started a MD raid5 volume over the DM raid5 disks, but sadly it didn't work [11:51] Logicwax, but they have to be of the same size [11:51] yea [11:52] ok guys, im exhausted. thank you so much for your help [11:52] Logicwax, also drbd is nice (if your data is really important) [11:52] never heard [11:52] * alankila doesn't understand why linux has DM. Why can't the dmraid just use MD internally? [11:52] i'll look it up [11:52] night! [11:52] Logicwax, it's RAID-1 over 2 different boxes ;) [11:53] oohh nice [11:53] With regards to Apache2 on Ubuntu, what is the difference between the site-enabled and sites-available configuration files? [11:53] yeah with Logicwax's logic he'll probably put 10 PCs in row, all with 10 2 TB disks, and arrange the whole thing as s single linear volume [11:53] sweet! 200 TB ext4! [11:54] Sorry for mocking you, but the stuff just doesn't work that well. [11:54] sp0ckk: sites-enabled are vhosts that are actually...well working, whilst you can store configurations in sites-available for later use should you need them [11:54] ziroday: Thanks. [11:54] hey i didnt have the money for redudancy lost disks (for parity) i knew the risk and took it [11:54] sp0ckk: I believe there is a command to manage -available and -enabled but I don't have an apache install here [11:55] hmm [11:55] this is really frustrating [11:55] en2ensite and a2dissite [11:55] oloa [11:55] for apache sites enabling [11:55] ziroday: It's OK. I was having trouble with some warnings, but they've been resolved now :) [11:55] Logicwax: I understand, but if you want to straighten this out now, you'll have a ton of effort in doing so. [11:55] sp0ckk: awesome, and Krewl had the command(s) :) [11:55] or just make a simlink in sites enabled to a sites-available config [11:55] ola+ [11:55] To back up a 10 TB volume you need a 10 TB backup disk. And that is reason enough to avoid making large volumes. [11:55] seryi: Hi! [11:55] k haxes [11:56] alankila, if it is for storing his DVD collection ... he already has a backup [11:56] ziroday: It's been over a couple of years since I played with Ubuntu now; does it comes with a firewall enabled and on by default? Is it iptables? (I'm using Ubuntu as a server, via an SSH terminal). [11:56] no te rias [11:56] Yes, but that's not the point. [11:56] sp0ckk: same for modules a2enmod for enabling a module, a2dismod to turn them off [11:56] sp0ckk: ubuntu has iptables and ufw installed by default, however neither are turned on [11:57] alankila, then what is your point? [11:57] !iptables > sp0ckk [11:57] sp0ckk, please see my private message [11:57] The point is that large disks are a nuisance. Small disks are nuisance too. You want to hit the sweet spot between backupability and convenience. [11:57] !ufw > sp0ckk [11:57] ziroday: Ah. Then I need to do so. [11:57] ziroday: Thanks. [11:57] hello [11:57] sp0ckk: its a good idea, the documentation that ubottu sent you is really helpful [11:57] I'll do some Googleing on securing Apache2, the firewall, SSH and sftp. [11:58] They're the services I want on my VPS. I'm only hosting a couple of Wikis. [11:58] In my opinion that sweet spot is somewhere around 1 terabyte -- I don't partition 500 GB disks at all, for instance -- but I would not accept 2 TB volumes right now. They are too incnovenient to temporarily stash somewhere and take alltogether too long to copy. [11:58] sp0ckk: sure, feel free to ask if you're not sure about anything [11:58] MY ENTIRE FILE SYSTEM HAS BEEN PUT IN THE LOST+FOUND FOLDER :'( [11:58] alankila, if he has no cash for a hardware raid controller and is fiddeling around with SATA disks and "dmraid" ... he has no cash for decent backup [11:58] ziroday: Excellent. Thank you. [11:58] Help me :( [11:58] sp0ckk: have fun :) [11:59] RPG_Master: uhggg that hurts ... i have my entire /etc/ put there once == reinstall [11:59] are all custom configuration options stored under the home directory startin with .? [11:59] candyban: imo, still irrelevant. This in no way invalidates why it's a good idea to not make one giant large volume. [11:59] uhm, not sure we can RPG_Master [11:59] alankila, that's why I suggested creating 10x 200G mds [11:59] erUSUL: I MUST save my files from my home dir! :O [11:59] calebjohnson: all hidden files start with ".", they exist throughout the linux filesystem. You can show them in nautilus by pressing ctrl+h [11:59] candyban: yes, fairly sensible, but then you suggested stringing them together as LVM and the advantage of separate filesystems is lost. [11:59] Loosing them is not an option [12:00] what is lost + found for [12:00] RPG_Master: are all your files just renamed or is some folder structure saved? [12:00] RPG_Master: depending of the file types and size you can try to identify them in that folder [12:00] They again become this large unit that has to be beckuped all at once and fscked all at once. And that's very bad. [12:00] ziroday: so are config files mainly in the etc directory? [12:00] RPG_Master: also the file command will help you identify what files are what type [12:01] if ther are all just file0001, 002 etc [12:01] calebjohnson: system wide configuration files are mainly in /etc/, whilst configuration files that affect your user are in your home directory [12:01] Krewl: It looks like there are no folders in Lost+Found [12:01] Just a bunch of txt files and a few images with correct thumbnales [12:01] RPG_Master: then I know of no way to undo the damage, maybe someone else can provide a better idea.... [12:01] alankila, he specifically wanted a single volume ... I've learned that if you want people to accept good advice, to first tell them what they want to hear and then tell them why it is not such a good idea ... ps. putting them in a single VG does still not invalidate the advantage of multiple smaller disks [12:02] candyban: okay. [12:02] RPG_Master: You could at first try to make a backup somewhere so you can access the files on a working computer === Value is now known as Manado [12:03] RPG_Master: say copy to an USB disk running from a Live CD [12:03] Krewl: I'm messing with them through a livecd [12:03] candyban: it's his data and no skin off my back, so I don't personally mind even if he lost all his linear and raid5 data. I consider it fairly likely, by the way he's going around that this will happen. Lessons learnt in lost data are remembered well. [12:03] alankila, I wonder how he will migrate his data ;) [12:03] ziroday: thanks for that [12:03] calebjohnson: no worries, have fun! [12:04] could anyone explain what you need to do to a bash script to have it work in terminal no matter the directory its in? [12:04] vdub: you need to put the script in /usr/bin and give it the correct permissions [12:04] i need help .. my ubuntu system is getting struck in middle of booting [12:04] and that's because it's an executable directory right? [12:04] RPG_Master: hmm tough one, but if you must get it back, I gues there is no other way. [12:04] Hi , How Can I Write a Script to shutdown computer in a time wthout requesting password / [12:04] ? [12:04] alankila, I second that ... I lost data once with lvm + striping (yeah ... I know now) ... lessons duly learned when I got driveseek errors after half a year [12:04] ziroday: is it chmod u+x? [12:05] strating up... [12:05] Loading, please wait... [12:05] check root=booting cat/proc/cmdline [12:05] or missing modules, devices: cat/proc/modules ls /dev [12:05] ALERT! /dev/disk/by-vvid/44c02152-eb7c-4ca8-b606-38cf65a6552f does not exist. Dr opping to a shell! [12:05] kesherwani: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:05] BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3- 5ubuntu12) Built in shell(ash) [12:05] RPG_Master: I'd start with a backup, so you can always try again and work off the backup copy. [12:05] alankila, but at the time the disks were more costly than the data that was on there ... [12:05] vdub: a+x should do the trick [12:05] MohammadRRR: no script needed. « shutdown » accepts a time argument [12:05] Krewl: Are the files corrupted or are is it just the folder structure that's messed up [12:05] ? [12:05] ziroday: thanks I couldnt remember appriciate the help [12:06] no way for me to tell, itś your system [12:06] jrib: it require password I Want It Without Password [12:06] i am getting this prompt- initramfs [12:06] RPG_Master: but do you know how to loop the file command to check each filename, and output the type to a textfile. [12:06] I [12:06] struck in middle of booting [12:07] plz somebody help me [12:07] kesherwani, type vgchange -ay [12:07] kesherwani, you are using lvm? [12:07] candyban: yes, I always use cli .... just did not know anything about awk / xargs [12:07] Krewl: Sir, I'm a 15 year old noob, so no :( [12:07] MohammadRRR: you can do sudo shutdown