[09:38] <Tm_T> plop
[11:40] <Tm_T> K'day erUSUL
[11:40] <erUSUL> Tm_T: morning :)
[14:52] <cjohnston> uggh
[14:53] <bazhang> hah
[14:56] <cjohnston> you know what im talking about :-{
[14:56] <cjohnston> :-P
[14:57] <bazhang> helping the helpers help
[14:57]  * cjohnston wnats to help the helpers who are helpers to the helpers because helping the helpers about helping helpers is the most help that a helper can have
[14:57]  * erUSUL heads spins
[14:59] <cjohnston> erUSUL: did that help to clear up -irc-helpers for you?
[15:00] <erUSUL> i've never disputed the goals of the channel. i disputed the need for a separate channel to do it
[15:12] <m4v> cjohnston: your tongue twister is not helpful
[15:15]  * erUSUL wonders why do people think i'm opposed to help helpers help helpneeded users....
[15:27] <m4v> because you aren't working hard enough
[15:27] <IdleOne> hah
[15:28] <erUSUL> m4v: ouch!!!
[15:35] <m4v> erUSUL: pelicano won't be proud of you if you don't put some effort y'know
[15:37] <erUSUL> i'm doing my best; but i promise to work harder :)
[15:38] <m4v> :P
[16:23] <erUSUL> !k3bsetup
[16:23] <erUSUL> !find k3bsetup
[16:23] <ubot4> erUSUL: Please use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for files
[16:23] <ubot2> erUSUL: Please use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for files
[16:29] <Myrtti> any -de ops around?
[16:29] <GPenguin> hello
[16:29] <GPenguin> [17:27] <GPenguin> i have an issue with a chanop called dreamthief who obviously has problems with a social agenda
[16:29] <GPenguin> [17:28] <GPenguin> he got all bossy on #ubuntu-de-offtopic and after offending me i asked for his age
[16:29] <GPenguin> [17:28] <GPenguin> and as a result of this i am banned now
[16:29] <Myrtti> let's see if we've got any -de ops around
[16:30] <GPenguin> the whole conversation with this person was unpleasant and rude
[16:30] <GPenguin> and i am wondering why he used his irc access for that matter
[16:30] <GPenguin> bad enough that he is pushing people on some leisure chat thing
[16:31] <Myrtti> juliux seems to be away
[16:31] <IdleOne> GPenguin: the persons age really is not important. I won't say more as I don't know the entire situation.
[16:31] <GPenguin> and all i did was asking for his age because i was suspicious of an asperger child
[16:31] <IdleOne> besides not being in the channel
[16:31] <IdleOne> GPenguin: see now that is insulting
[16:31] <GPenguin> how?
[16:31] <IdleOne> that is probably why you got banned
[16:32] <GPenguin> guessing, arent we?
[16:32] <IdleOne> yes, absolutely guessing
[16:32] <IdleOne> but I will stay silent now :)
[16:32] <GPenguin> and you are aware that your contributions are not going to help?
[16:32] <GPenguin> ah, thanks
[16:33] <IdleOne> GPenguin: you are aware that your attitude is not helping either. you seem to me to have this holier then thou thing going on. get off that horse.
[16:33] <IdleOne> now I am done
[16:33] <GPenguin> IdleOne: speaking of attitude, huh :)
[16:34] <IdleOne> baiting aren't you?
[16:34] <GPenguin> the difference is that you have not been kicked in the arse. so i have no idea whats bugging _you_
[16:34]  * IdleOne has been to to pond and caught bigger fish then you
[16:34] <GPenguin> then shut up maybe as you announced it 2 times?
[16:34] <IdleOne> later dude
[16:34] <IdleOne> !guidelines > GPenguin
[16:34] <IdleOne> read the !coc factoid also
[16:35] <GPenguin> have you read them yourself and how would you label what you do here with me?
[16:35] <GPenguin> i would say ... you try to provoke me until i break rules
[16:35] <GPenguin> the point is - why
[16:36] <IdleOne> I tried to be polite, you came back at me with attitude. admittedly I could of responded differently but to tell you the truth you don't seem to know what Ubuntu means.
[16:36] <GPenguin> you still have the chance to be silent
[16:36] <GPenguin> its quite easy. all you have to do is stop right here
[16:38] <GPenguin> instead of feeding my anger about people who have a hard time to be social
[16:38] <m4v> hey
[16:38] <IdleOne> I apologize. My intention was not to make this worse
[16:38] <m4v> GPenguin: Would ya cut it until a -de op shows up?
[16:38] <GPenguin> because ironically, all i did on that offtopic channel was a piece of advice "buy a cheap router" and this dreamthief guy starting judging me for it
[16:39] <GPenguin> and when i asked for his age i got banned
[16:39] <GPenguin> the asperger comment was first aired here not on that channel
[16:40] <GPenguin> but hey, you know what ...
[16:41] <IdleOne> errr, I need to learn to mind my own business
[16:42] <IdleOne> sorry Myrtti
[16:42] <m4v> I don't think you did anything wrong
[16:42]  * erUSUL looks sympathetically to IdleOne 
[16:43] <IdleOne> m4v: I could of handled the situation differently, I did not catalyse well at all there
[16:43] <IdleOne> I think he took my comments as attacks and in retrospect I can see how he might have
[16:44] <m4v> you can't catalyse every situation, this guy really seemed to take anything as an attack
[16:45] <IdleOne> true
[16:45] <IdleOne> that is how it seemed to me also
[18:41] <Tm_T> hi all, good evening
[20:01] <Myrtti> erUSUL: FYI he claims to be writing a book and apparently is doing research for it on IRC
[20:02] <erUSUL> ty
[20:03] <Myrtti> his questions seem like he's doing his homework though