[00:37] <kamalmostafa> hello motu's -- I'm looking for feedback on my FFE request bug 524183 - is it reasonable and complete? - what's a normal ETA for an FFE request?  thanks!
[05:22] <zooko> Folks: there are some ideas being thrown around about how Tahoe-LAFS ought to be packaged in Ubuntu. #tahoe-lafs
[05:22] <zooko> Specifically, should a Tahoe-LAFS node be auto-configured on install and auto-started on reboot.
[05:23] <zooko> Also, should every Ubuntu user get a free 2 GB of space on a Tahoe-LAFS storage grid. :-)
[05:23] <ScottK> Generally the answer to such questions is yes.
[05:24] <zooko> :-)
[05:24] <ScottK> Dunno about the last bit
[05:24] <zooko> :-)
[05:24] <zooko> Thanks.
[05:24] <ScottK> If there is a sane default configuration, the package should provide it.
[05:25] <zooko> It isn't clear to me if there is one for this.
[05:25] <zooko> Please join #tahoe-lafs if you are curious what the options are.
[05:28] <zooko> ScottK: if these folks on #tahoe-lafs converge on a position that they want to configure the Ubuntu package to automatically connect you to a specific storage grid then I'll come back and ask you more about that...
[05:28] <zooko> It would basically mean them offering free storage service to Ubuntu users, I think.
[05:59] <patx2> ScottK, could you revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/fastpatx ?
[08:54] <nigelb> does this line correctly copy the file rhythmbox.apport to the apport package hooks folder?  "cp debian/rhythmbox.apport debian/rhythmbox/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_rhythmbox.py"
[09:09]  * hyperair wonders if it's time to upgrade to ubuntu lucid yet..
[09:42] <c_korn> hello, can someone help me with a FFe ? what am I supposed to do ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scilab/+bug/511864/comments/18
[10:06] <iulian> c_korn: Answer Stefan's question.
[10:06] <randomaction> c_korn: you should check whether listed packages will work with your new proposed version
[10:27] <FLOZz> Hello
[10:31] <iulian> Hi.
[10:32] <FLOZz> Can someone can review my first package (cover-thumbnailer) please ? : http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cover-thumbnailer
[10:33] <FLOZz> -can
[10:39] <randomaction> we had a deadline 2 days ago, so new packages for Lucid will be accepted only in exceptional circumstances
[10:40] <FLOZz> arf /o\
[10:41] <randomaction> packages for Lucid+1 will be accepted since early May
[10:41] <FLOZz> randomaction: ok thanks :)
[12:12] <AlanBell> hello all
[12:12] <AlanBell> I am doing my first bit of python packaging, it works but builds just for Karmic. How do I get it to build for Jaunty/Lucid?
[12:13] <AlanBell> ppa:alanbell/lpod lpod-python is the package
[12:13] <AlanBell> http://lpod-project.org is the upstream
[12:16] <shadeslayer> AlanBell: is it already packaged in ubuntu?
[12:16] <AlanBell> no, it only got announced yesterday
[12:17] <AlanBell> I would like to get it in Ubuntu proper, but I am not a motu
[12:17] <AlanBell> so I am practicing in my PPA
[12:17] <shadeslayer> hmm no idea then :)
[12:17] <Laney> (ppa support in #launchpad) you can copy the source from Karmic to Lucid in your PPA
[12:18] <Laney> assuming it builds without changes
[12:18] <shadeslayer> AlanBell: i just know that youll need to setup pbuilder and then build packages
[12:19] <AlanBell> Laney: thanks, I will try #launchpad
[13:08] <danblick> something seems strange about having a different package for different upstream version numbers - i'm looking at jruby, jruby1.1, and jruby1.2
[13:10] <danblick> i see the reason for doing it, but it seems like it means that if i want to build a package for jruby 1.4, it won't be based off of the jruby1.2 package
[14:04] <jariq> I am trying to create pbuilder environment for sid but it fails everytime with "chroot: cannot run command `/usr/bin/apt-get': No such file or directory". However I am able to create environment for lucid with any problems. Any ideas what can be wrong?
[14:06] <azeem> jariq: apt is no longer installed automatically by debootstrap I believe, maybe pbuilder has an option to specify additional packages to include
[14:06] <azeem> jariq: or create a lenny environment and upgrade
[14:14] <jariq> azeem: thx I will try "sudo DIST=sid pbuilder create --extrapackages apt build-essential"
[14:32] <jariq> did not help
[14:33] <nigelb> jariq: try pbuilder-dist sid create
[14:47] <deel> join ubuntu
[15:39] <jariq> Tried "pbuilder-dist sid create" and result is same as before "chroot: cannot run command `/usr/bin/apt-get': No such file or directory"
[15:41] <nigelb> whats the exact command you gave?
[15:43] <jariq> nigelb: as you adviced "pbuilder-dist sid create" and it failed to finish
[15:43] <nigelb> that's surprising.  hold on
[15:43] <jariq> nigelb: i was executing it as root
[16:48] <jariq> nigelb: should i wait for any answer? or you're working on something else
[16:48] <nigelb> woops, getting it
[16:52] <nigelb> jariq: I have to step out now, can you see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[16:53] <nigelb> there is a section on trouble with pbuilder (or something to that extend)
[16:53] <nigelb> that might solve your issues
[16:54] <ari-tczew> is it possible to use 3.0 debian source format by new debian revision? without new upstream release?
[16:54] <randomaction> ari-tczew: yes
[16:57] <_Andrew> Anyone know why in my deb when I specify to the debian.install file to glob usr/include/LIB/*.h  it says in doesn't find anything?
[16:57] <jariq> nigelb: ok thx i will look at it
[16:59] <sebner> ari-tczew: shouldn't be the only change and especially not without Debian doing it too
[17:00] <ari-tczew> sebner: I'm doing fakesync for package which is in 3.0 source format
[17:00] <ari-tczew> but ubuntu's package isn't in 3.0
[17:01] <sebner> ari-tczew: kk, it's fine then
[17:02] <ari-tczew> ;-]
[17:07] <kamalmostafa> hello motu's -- I'm confused about the status of bug 503111 -- ubuntu-sru is subscribed but I do not see it listed in the queue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/503111 -- shouldn't it be listed there?
[17:08] <kamalmostafa> oops -- pasted wrong link -- shouldn't it be listed in the sru queue:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-sru  ?
[17:12] <randomaction> kamalmostafa: the only open task is for karmic, so it's showing up only at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+bugs?field.subscriber=ubuntu-sru
[17:13] <kamalmostafa> randomaction: okay yes, that makes sense -- looks like its in the right place then -- thanks.
[17:14] <randomaction> I don't know whether SRU guys look at that queue though
[17:16] <kamalmostafa> randomaction:  hmm.  but wouldn't this situation apply to all SRU's (which are already fixed in Lucid)?  Any "SRU guys" around that can chime in here?
[17:21] <kamalmostafa> I now see that my bug 503111 is unlike the rest of the Karmic-targeted SRU's in the "regular" queue...  E.g. 511868 says "Nominated for Karmic" but doesn't already have a Karmic task -- whereas my 503111 does already have a Karmic task (which Laney created).
[17:23] <Laney> i would imagine they should look at the stable release lists
[17:25] <kamalmostafa> hi Laney -- that one (503111) has been in the karmic sru queue for about 6 weeks -- is that not an unusually long time?
[17:26] <Laney> it sure is
[17:26] <Laney> you should ask an sru guy
[17:26] <kamalmostafa> where can I find one?  :-)
[17:26] <ari-tczew> e.g. dfiloni
[17:27] <ari-tczew> cody-somerville
[17:27] <Laney> check out the team member list on LP
[17:40] <kamalmostafa> Looking for an ubuntu-sru member -- please check status of bug 503111, pending for 6 weeks (ping cody-somerville cjwatson dfiloni jdong pitti slangasek).
[17:40] <jdong> kamalmostafa: one sec please
[17:42] <jdong> kamalmostafa: patch looks good, ACKed. Sorry it took so long. Must've slipped through the cracks when I did mass bugmail purging
[17:43]  * jdong kinda wishes there was a needs-sru-attention type tag that magically worked.
[17:43] <jdong> (not serious wishlist item, too much bug triage manpower to make that actually work)
[17:43] <kamalmostafa> jdong: no problem at all -- was just checking up on my "lost work" list and found that it had slipped through the cracks here also.  thanks!
[17:43] <jdong> no problem :)
[17:44] <kamalmostafa> thanks for the help Laney, ari-tczew
[17:44] <jdong> once in a while I do attempt to look at all subscribed+open SRU bugs, but the last time I did that I think there's 600-ish and never was terribly productive...
[17:44] <jdong> most tended to be false-positives
[17:46] <Laney> jdong: for what reason? Couldn't you unsubscribe the team?
[17:46] <kamalmostafa> jdong: well, if this is a useful datapoint, I noticed that the "/ubuntu" SRU queue lists 91 bugs, while the "/ubuntu/karmic" SRU queue lists 95.  So maybe the 4 bugs which are only on the Karmic queue need specific investigation to see if they're in this 'lost' state.   (?)
[17:49] <jdong> Laney: Yeah I suppose I can unsubscribe. Usually it's some unrelated task still held open
[17:49] <jdong> Couldn't find a LP search option to specify what distro to match status fields to.
[17:51] <kamalmostafa> jdong: thanks for your ACK on 503111 -- what's the next step for this bug?  Who is supposed to "proceed with upload"?
[17:53] <jdong> kamalmostafa: any MOTU can do that
[17:53] <jdong> the official procedure is to subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors
[17:53] <kamalmostafa> jdong: I'll subscribe them then -- thanks again
[17:53] <jdong> if the response time is not good, feel free to come back here and kidnap the first MOTU to talk ;-)
[17:53] <jdong> I mean.... shhhhh nobody read that.
[17:55] <kamalmostafa> jdong: regarding the "match distro search" question...  I imagine that a Launchpad API script could be crafted to do this... (sounds like I have a new project for this morning :-).
[17:56] <jdong> kamalmostafa: hehehe indeed that's a way to do it :)f
[17:57] <kamalmostafa> jdong: I'll let you know if I manage to construct anything useful.
[17:58] <jdong> ok cool
[18:04] <crimsun> bah, will need an FFe for the rest of this haskell mess
[18:19] <crimsun> Laney: do you plan to request an FFe for haskell-x11, or do you want to leave it at 1.4.6.1?
[18:21] <Laney> crimsun: I got some kind of release approval for the transition
[18:21] <Laney> I didn't imagine having to request exceptions
[18:22] <crimsun> ok
[18:23] <crimsun> I'll wait til ghc6 has finished building then toss haskell-utf8-string up
[18:24] <Laney> oh, no don't do that
[18:24] <Laney> that package should be removed ;)
[18:24] <Laney> ghc6 now provides it
[18:26] <crimsun> mmkay
[18:26] <crimsun> well, whatever doesn't break my window manager so I can keep hacking alsa, I suppose.
[18:26] <Laney> if you want to carve a path through to xmonad then that's fine
[18:27] <crimsun> doesn't make sense to do anything until ghc6 -10 is built, tho'
[18:27] <Laney> or else aptitude should hold things back for you well enough
[18:33] <stefanlsd> anyone using pubilder-dist that doesnt listen to .pbuilderrc (seems like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=567995)
[18:37] <Laney> crimsun: (filed the RM bug)
[18:47] <cyberix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pq/+bug/267536
[18:47] <cyberix> is this a valid way of submitting a patch
[18:47] <cyberix> or do I need to do something more?
[18:50] <randomaction> cyberix: quite valid, these days we have slightly more bugs than usual to review, but some sponsor will get to it
[18:50] <arand> cyberix: afaik https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess is the steps to follow, seems like in your case only the "subscribe team" bit is missing..
[18:51] <randomaction> cyberix: just set status to "Confirmed"
[18:51] <arand> randomaction: oh, should the subscription be added or not?
[18:52] <randomaction> arand:  u-u-s is subscribed
[18:53] <arand> randomaction: cyberix: ah, noevermind then, didn't see that (though sponsors had another icon.. whatever..)
[18:55] <|sistpoty|> cyberix: looks good, test-building and uploading
[18:57] <sebner> huhu sistpoty :)
[18:57] <sistpoty> hi sebner
[18:58] <sistpoty> cyberix: uploaded
[19:25] <user007> Hello folks,
[19:26] <user007> I've uploaded to revu, my package but It doesn't appear, this take some minute to refresh on the web page?
[19:32] <sistpoty> user007: which package?
[19:33] <user007> sistpoty: bygfoot
[19:33] <sistpoty> user007: ah, seeing it in the rejected directory
[19:34] <user007> opss, what happend? please
[19:34] <sistpoty> user007: give me a minute, looking at the logs
[19:35] <user007> ok, thank you sistpoty
[19:36] <cyberix> sistpoty: thanks
[19:36] <randomaction> we have bygfoot in the archive, why upload it to REVU?
[19:36] <user007> it is the last version
[19:38] <user007> and fix, some bugs
[19:39] <iulian> Don't use REVU if it's not a new package.
[19:39] <randomaction> file a bug against bygfoot package and attach .diff.gz
[19:39] <randomaction> use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[19:40] <randomaction> be aware that we're in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
[19:40] <sistpoty> user007: it says incorrect signature. is your key in revu's keyring already?
[19:40] <user007> sistpoty: yes
[19:41] <sistpoty> user007: hm, I'll put it back to incoming, let's see if it's processed then
[19:42] <sistpoty> user007: oh, it's a binary upload, revu will only accept source packages
[19:42] <user007> ops, I don't know, I think it's similar to debian-mentors
[19:47] <randomaction> user007: if you manage to get your package into Debian, you can then sync it to Ubuntu
[19:48] <user007> exactly, but as you know, Debian process is... well,
[19:50] <user007> but If want to colaborate with bygfoot, How can I updated it? exists similar to NMU?
[20:00] <randomaction> user007: have you read what I wrote earlier?
[20:02] <user007> ok, I understand.
[20:06] <user007> thank you guys,
[20:24] <nacho_> Hi
[20:24] <crimsun> I already answered you, nacho_
[20:25] <crimsun> nacho_: i.e., see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[20:25] <nacho_> ok
[20:26] <nacho_> also we released gtranslator 1.9.8, 1 week ago and it seems it was not added
[20:26] <nacho_> and it fixes quite a lot of important bugs
[20:26] <crimsun> again, the above URL
[20:26] <sistpoty> nhandler, ScottK, iulian: any objections to sync a new upstream of gpodder (no rdepends) to fix bug #508886?
[20:27] <nacho_> crimsun, ok thanks al ot
[20:32] <iulian> sistpoty: Looking.
[20:33] <sistpoty> iulian: I didn't add a build log (it's still building here *g*), and upstream changelog, just ask if you want one
[20:34] <iulian> sistpoty: An upstream changelog would be nice.
[20:35] <lightnin> Hiya highvoltage.
[20:37] <iulian> sistpoty: Got it.
[20:38] <sistpoty> iulian: it somehow doesn't diff well :/
[20:39] <iulian> sistpoty: I'm currently looking at http://gpodder.org/oldnews.html.
[20:39] <sistpoty> ah, heh
[20:46] <iulian> sistpoty: Looks good to me.  Ack.
[20:47] <sistpoty> thanks iulian, I'll give it some testing yet, and then subscribe ubuntu-archive
[20:48] <iulian> Excellent.
[20:49] <sistpoty> gpodder works fine, however I had imagined the web 2.0 somehow fancier, it doesn't even have 3d effects *g*
[20:50] <sebner> sistpoty: xD xD xD, you are the right QA guy ;)
[20:51] <sistpoty> heh
[20:52] <iulian> :)
[22:24] <sistpoty> fta | asac: mind giving some insights on bug #522254
[22:27] <Laney> sistpoty: debian just packages gnash btw
[22:27] <Laney> d*
[22:27] <sistpoty> Laney: oh, nice, thanks!
[23:14] <fabounet> BlackZ : Hi, any news on the Cairo-Dock's build ?
[23:15] <fabounet> yep